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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #138

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Ancient Evil Edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

News:
Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 is out.
Some guy called Rogue has started helping with the Paradox translation process.
UI Patch for Part 2 will be released sometime this year!


How to use the latest non-patch Paradox translation: https://pastebin.com/a0VDpMji
(HAVE FUN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR CORE PLOT POINTS OF PART TWO)

Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 download: https://mega.nz/#!PI1WiAKZ!exKwDBYVhJ8QK1w3b9M4XCipjv5GgDSyHZ5d_wrlo2w (or check the MGQ pastebin for a torrent)
2.02 Update: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lgo1k9cf78gwf7g/MGQP2_2.02.7z
Rough Guide: https://pastebin.com/yKjNkSME (WIP) (Also, obviously spoilers)

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/hqc0JYhJ
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed
The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry!: https://mega.nz/#!JmI2VDpT!KalSjtfGiwX0SmIhlFT-Y08DKf2jUkDltOba0flsqJ0

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>>181790639
UN_DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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first for featherp0n0s
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Kept you waiting, huh?
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ITS LAZARUS!
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Luka has a little sister complex as his fetish?
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I love Ilias!
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>>181790951
Yes. Big tits and little sisters. So he's a COOL and Arekishi fan.
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>>181790951
Specifically little sisters with big tits.
Or it was little sisters and big tits, I don't remember.
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>>181790814
Still keeping this new dank shitposting up, I see? Well, have a (You) for your efforts, at least.
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>>181790951
He likes Sisters and Big Boobs. (See: Nuruko's scenes.)

Hes also not adverse to incest. (See: Michaela & Lucifina Scenes.)
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>>181790738
A slice of classic 4chan, today
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>No one linked the new thread in the old one
ONE JOB
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>>181791019
>>181791035
>>181791083
So, if you put both of his moron stand ins for big boobed imoutos in the party with him does he bully? Bully luka sounds funny
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>>181791320
This one was put up immediately after the other one fell off, so it's likely this thread was what killed it.
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>>181791320
Chances are, the old thread 404'd before he could even link to this one in there. Thread isn't even 10 minutes old yet.
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How the fuck do I set up the machine translation? Every time I try it does nothing
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>>181790984
Hopefully her h scene is better in part 2. I know in part 1 it really PISSed a lot of people off.
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>>181791507
What programs are you using? The text hooker portion will probably require you to select a thread after the program is selected.
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>>181791520
I could see some piss in it still.
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>>181791520
We've seen it already
she binds his legs with light rings and rides him cowgirl stil while drolling and covering Luka's eyes because she doesn't want him to see her enjoying herself, Promestien is kinda the same way, not binding luka but enjoying riding him
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>>181791520

I think it's pretty alright.

>>181791754

There is no piss.
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>>181791832
Hooo mama...
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>>181791832
But the piss is right there.
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>>181791754
>>181791928
>Retards thinking the ring of light is piss
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God, Queen Fairy was an absolute pain on Paradox. Had to slap a bunch of nature resist gear on my team to win. Nothing says fuck you like getting hit for 3.5k when your resistance for that element is at 28%

>>181791507
>Download ITHVNR
>Download the latest version of Translator Aggregator (No, that version 174 build from 2014 is not the latest version)
>Run ITHVNR and attach it to the Paradox game process and make sure it's set to copy to clipboard
>Run TA

That's about it. There is more that you can do to improve the translation of course but that should get you started
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>>181792039
https://pastebin.com/4qzn7cGT
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>>181792039
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What is the trait of Awawa?
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>ilias has two piss scenes now
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>>181792206
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/
http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/
http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/
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>>181792039
>>181792206
>>181792371
I love you, Voreanon.
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>>181792475
I LOVE YOU TOO, ANONANON
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>>181792039
>>181792206
>>181792371
Thanks for the threadly dose, Voreanon.
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So, is it even possible for a normal person to come out of a rape by angel or monster without going full pleasure crazy? Everybody I remember saving from it in the VN and now in Paradox seem like they can no longer be the person they once were, has there ever been someone whose been given taste of monster or angel pussy and still able to continue on being them? It seems like when that happens to you in this world it's over for you.

I'd love to see an NPC be like, dammit, got raped today, boss is gonna be pissed.
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>>181792806
Maybe if it was a homo.
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>>181792169
When I run TA it returns an error "failed to get settings"
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>>181792892
My first time in pervert village was hilarious, IIias,Sonya and Hips reactions along with creepy as fuck Scatfag and loliconfag, now knowing that Luka has a little sister complex I now undertand what that creepo meant by "the guy with the sword looks like he wants to kill me"
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>>181793323
>Loli baron is Luka's fetish rival
Biggest plot twist of the series.
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So does this mean Luka would take Sara up on her desire to have a heir and use him as her let out for her succubus urges since she's lesbian and doesn't want any other guys?
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Would Lala fit in the MGQ world?
Would she fit as a protagonist of a game set in the MGQ world?
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>>181793815
She'd get raped by a slime and immediately lose all respect, probably get teased into submission by Neris and teased for a crush on Nero, I've only met him once and holy hell, he looked ridiculous, what the hell kinda parenting did VN Luka and Alice put him through?
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>>181794181
That's because Nero and Lala were made for each other
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>>181794181
Apparently they let him hang around Tamamo a little bit too much.
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>>181794181
Hey at least Luka and Alice aren't trying to follow the bloodlines of their ancestor. Dad disappears to save world. Mom takes care of the kids. Yeah with the way Neris is being affectionate to Luka. I really hope Luka and Alice didn't fuck off and took care of their kids. Luka probably taught Nero to be clean due to Luka really being OCD with cleaning.
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>>181794995
I think Tamamo made him do her daily chores as training.
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>>181794995
Nero also has OCD and can tune a piano. He also apparently cooks.

As for why Nero is a chunni?

Blame Erbuetie.
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>>181795279
I like to think after Luka comes back from whatever he's doing with Alice that he teaches his kids about mostly everything. Then telling them stories about his adventures. Probably Nero and Neris looking up to Luka like Heinrich. Like Luka looking up to Heinrich for being a badass hero.
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>>181795343
And why Neris is a daddycon? blame Alma Elma, you know she put those ideas in her head.I do however almost want to go alice route to see a family quadruple giga between Luka, Nero and Luka's dad.
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Huh, I never messed with predation before this playthrough, but I'm getting surprisingly good mileage out of it.
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How do I recruit the battle fuckers of part 2?
Also the game kinda showed prime ilias is stronger than nero + neris
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>>181795510
Is there a set-up for it or just use the vore skills like normal insta-death attacks
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>>181795343
That I can definitely see with the way she has that air about Erubuetie. Somebody has to pass down the cooking skills. Hell Luka was self taught on how to cook. Till this day I'm shocked that Lucifina is a shit cook. But Luka is apparently great at it due to being self taught. Now I do question If Neris knows how to do household chores at all and If she's a shit cook like her mother.
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>>181793742
>since she's lesbian and doesn't want any other guys?
What's with this meme? Everything in game seems to point to Sara being Bi. She's in love with Granberia, that doesn't mean she's strictly a lesbian.
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>>181795767
Does it really count if she's completely out of her mind there?
>>181795696
I honestly think Neris only knows how to fight and do lewd acts, all signs point to alma elma and granberia overseeing her as instructors. It definitely wouldn't out of character for Alma to plant incest thoughts in Alice's kid head for shits and giggles and watch from the sidelines when her and Alice keep clashing over who gets to spend time with Luka,can you imagine Alice being really horay one day and her kid keeps taking Luka way for some father-daughter bonding to her increasing frustration? We already know Alice doesn't like to share Luka, look what she did to the spirit's hangouts
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>>181795596
You have to set up with a status effect in order to use predation attack. Each predator race has their own specific requirements
Dolls/Chimeras prey on poisoned enemies
Snakes/Spiders prey on bound enemies
Slimes prey on enemies that are being digested
Ghosts prey on stunned enemies.

Et cetera
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>>181795503
>And why Neris is a daddycon? blame Alma Elma, you know she put those ideas in her head.I do however almost want to go alice route to see a family quadruple giga between Luka, Nero and Luka's dad.

Hey now with the implication of Paradox Luka having more kids. We'll have a Family Party one of these days. You'll see this Family Party shouldn't be joked.
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>>181796085
That is interesting, I only knew about slimes thanks to the digestion status, but the rest is new to me, I need to try it out.
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Perfect girls don't exis-
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>>181796075
She's giving blowjobs for quite a while in Paradox. What evidence is there that she's a lesbian?
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>>181796075
You're right about that. You know when you said that Alma planting incest into Neris. Man I just can't help but think of Neris sneaking and peeking to look at Luka and Alice go at it. I am curious why Neris hates Alice. I hope it wasn't because of Alice's teachings but If it was because of Luka's love then I wouldn't be surprised she's jealous. Lamia's are well known to get easily jealous.
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>>181796372
Also curiously enough, you can eat bosses too.
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>>181791832
>saliva drinking

Not sure why but that shit is SO hot to me.
Hope we get a version of this with that new,improved and bigger Illias.
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>>181797103
You might like this video then, skip to about one (1) minute in.
WARNING! Video contains 3DPD and inordinate mosaic patterns.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Proceed at your own risk:
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=313946794
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>>181795596
Mimics are pro at this. They will use a scare attack at the start of the battle, if they are stunned just vore them on turn 1.
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so, which monster girl have the strongest sex techniques?
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>>181796725
>eat bosses
What? How can that work? I guess they need dialogue for it like when monsters cum, but shouldn't some be immune to it like Morrigan is to pleasure?
>>181797513
With this advice I know that even part 1 is possible.
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>>181790226
>>181790408
Derp, I mixed up Illiasville and Illiasburg. Thanks for listing everything anyways.

...if everything on the continent was named Illias-something, trade would be screwed. Imagine all the cargo ending up in wrong towns.
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Cecil is the best
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>>181795583

Ilias with Darkness and Light or just normal adult Ilias?
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>>181791832

So are we fucking Ilias to get the crazy out of her or is she finally tired of being celibate for eons and enjoying the d?

Is the Goddess of Creation at risk for turning into a fallen angel?
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>>181797594
is that even a question?
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>>181799043
I still wonder If she's a fucking virgin. Whore of Babylon but a virgin. How does that make sense? That's literally bullshit.
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>>181799043
>Also, a virgin
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>>181799043
>Virgin succubus

Probably feels too good for any mortal to comprehend.
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>>181798237
She really is
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UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SAKI-CHAAAAAN *kira*
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If you guys don't trust the ova translation why don't you try and listen to the line yourself I doubt dargoth spent that long on it
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>>181798416
Just adult, they commented about destroying a continent, nero says maybe he and neris could do that together, ilias says to not do this due ambient problems (she knows because she made it before)
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>>181798650

The scene starts with Ilias saying his skill at sex is terrible and that she'll train him herself.
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>>181799471
*twinkle*
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>>181798650
>>181799746
Doesn't she also go a bit too far with it?
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>>181799521
It's not that were saying we don't trust Dargoth's translations. It's just that the Whore of Babylon being a virgin is literally making me think of how that's even possible to have a name Whore of Babylon when you're a virgin. It just doesn't make sense at all plus a succubus too.
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>>181799943
she didn't suck a testicle clean of his sack through his urethra and eat it in front of him anon
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>>181800047
She could be like Sara, but instead no one could last against her battle fuck and get fucked by her pussy.
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>>181799471
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Which parts of Ledo Mountain do you encounter the Moth, Mosquito, and Caterpillar Girls in? I met them in my Ilias runthrough, but haven't seen them at all with Alice no matter how many times I go around the place.
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>>181799943

Nothing that stands out.
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>Back in 2015 I was looking forward to Barnny's translated scene
>Download the latest patch
>She refers to herself as big sister
I was not disappointed
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>>181796075
>look what she did to the spirit's hangouts
What did she do again?
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>>181800072
Why must I be reminded
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>>181796075
>Does it really count if she's completely out of her mind there?
If she's physically into it, she's not a lesbian. Being out of your mind has nothing to do with it, because sexuality is about base desires and not conscious decisions.
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>>181800319
ambient destruction, like increasing desertification rate on sabasa
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There a way to unlock High Angel Advanced or Luka's Hero Advanced job ?
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>>181800152
So what you're saying that she just dried everyone's fish except Luka.
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>>181800047
No I mean we should just try and find out once and for all so we know
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>>181801438
I don't believe those can be unlocked yet.
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>>181801507
Not a lot of us speak moon. It's the whole reason why most of us is here.
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>>181799526
How's that possible? Didn't nero manage to cut off white rabbits head at some point? Shouldn't that make them stronger or at least on the same tier as prime adult illias?
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>>181801459
It explains the situation perfectly. She wants a real man to lose her virginity to.
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>>181800152
Honestly sounds like just her being around makes men dried fish their even was that spell in part 3
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>>181801773
>It explains the situation perfectly. She wants a real man to lose her virginity to.

That could be it. Though we still don't know what she's actually like. It's literally just mystery till MGQP3 is out.
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>>181801764
But Marcellus was shown slaughtering white rabbits wholesale.
And Nero and Neris had to work together at full strength to push back Shiki Tamamo.
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>>181802004
>Though we still don't know what she's actually like
If the ova is canon then she's calm and serous and loves strong people
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>>181802250
They had to hold back as to not kill her.
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>>181802250
>And Nero and Neris had to work together at full strength to push back Shiki Tamamo.
How strong is shiki Tamamo fucking hell
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>>181802338
just because she's like that in ova doesn't mean the Monsters Win version of her is the same remember Tamamo in that version the world is a bitch
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>>181802338
Well TTR apparently said it's canon. That's why I'm questioning about it. We'll probably get a backstory why she had the title Whore of Babylon.
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>>181802495
It's the same, ask Torotoro.
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>>181802545
I thought it was because she dried fish a dangerous amount of people
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>>181799043
>Whore of Babylon
>Ilias hates her because of her limitless debuachery
>Virgin
There's no justifying bad writing. Even if you're pandering to Japanese purityfags, this is too much.
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>>181802703
Well, it was never directly stated that she's a virgin.
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>>181802703
Maybe Illias hates voyeurs
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>>181802495
Yeah If you think about it. Sealing Tamamo was a good thing since it actually made her care for her subordinates. Now I thought Shiki Tamamo was going to be good since they always talked about their past and how she's always loyal. But damn do I gotta agree that Shiki Tamamo is just a grade A bitch. Then again both sides are a bitch and a half.
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>>181790639
I was honestly pretty surprised how much I ended up liking Tezcat of all people. Of everyone we saw previews of in part 1, I would have figured she'd be at the bottom of my list of characters I liked in part 2.
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>>181802703
You don't need to use your genitals for sexual acts.
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>>181802413
Why would they do a 3 person combination attack if they were attempting to hold back? And literally the first thing Nero does after the explosion is sigh in relief and say that he thought that he was going to die.
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>>181792039
I love you, Voreanon! Here is your (you)!

We came back early from camping because something came up, however I cannot say what
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>>181802860
It makes no sense that someone of LIMITLESS debauchery would shy away from using their genitals.
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>>181802871
If Nero were to go all out he would have stopped time and there's nothing Tamamo could have done about it.
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>>181801764
paradox ilias fries her with her lightnings twice, without effort, and she was weakened. (don't confuse with small ilias)
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>>181799043
I literally don't get purityfags. You don't hear me bitching that my MGQ waifu isn't a virgin and has probably fucked a dozen dudes before Luka.
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Maybe she's like Morrigan and never put out
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>>181803021
The first thing Nero says to Neris in that battle is that they have to go all out against Shiki Tamamo.
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>>181802806
The only person shes loyal to is probably Alice 1 even her sisters creation she's fine with killing
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>>181803021
Maybe he knows Tamamo can move in stopped time.
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>>181803280
Nero's profile says he literally has god powers so he's pretty much canonically above her.
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>>181803021
And yet he didn't despite directly stating that he and Neris were going all out. Time stop may have limits, consequences, or counters that we aren't aware of.
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>>181803338
I seriously can't wait to declare war on both sides.
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>>181790639
This image is retardedly cute.
I love it
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>>181802983
She has the Great Barrier of Babylon spell and the Lilith sisters turned most of the power Angel into dried fish not having the D isn't that out of their although I don't think she's a virgin
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>>181803093
Yeah white rabbit sounds like she's level 1 but can't die or something
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>>181803654
It's completely out there. Illias hated Minagi over everyone (Even Alice 1) simply because she was the biggest slut to ever exist. Now you're trying to tell me that she just handed out a bunch of aura jobs?
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>>181803795
Because she's a phenomenon so killing her accomplishes nothing.
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>>181800203
Nice neck.
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>>181803880
That's like saying the Lilith sister don't have h scene because luka didn't put his dick in, and Women can fuck too you know who knows how many angels went to heaven at minagi hands hell maybe she tried to fuck illas too
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You're at the bar when this guy slaps yo gf's seat.
wwyd?
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>>181804149
Challenge him to an arm wrestling contest.
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>>181804149
Nope the fuck out of there and take my gf with me because I ain't dealing with the mob
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>>181804063
>how many angels went to heaven at minagi hands hell maybe she tried to fuck illas too
I'm now picturing everyone firing nukes while minagi is going around fucking all the angels and illas trying to kill her
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>>181803419
Nah, he simply didn't want to kill her
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>>181804407
>he simply didn't want to kill her
Yet he calls Neris for help.
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>>181804407
So this is what happens when Nero becomes unbelted.
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>>181804547
Because they'll always be a team.
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>>181804407
>Grangold king has better magic
>Luka has better attack
>Race isn't even fully leveled
>His weapon is actually a mid tier sycthe

He seemed so cool before part 2......
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Hopefully, in part 3 we will get all the CGs only seen in the trailers.
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>>181804723
>better magic
>better attack
>what is dispel slash
>what is taoist stance
>what is daystar

Your magic and attacks are meaningless.
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>>181804723
>Not expecting that trtr will nerf Grangold king just for Nero
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>>181804556
He was still belted during that fight
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>>181802470
not amazingly strong according to her stats, chaos sonya even has more HP than her.
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>>181803021
But they didn't predict shikimamo having star platinum apparently, given that it seems like being able to fucking stop time didn't help them much.
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>>181803989
Saki-chan is a dullahan!
https://youtu.be/0smPNpVHOH8
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Shit if the grangold king ended up this strong because of that proto human shit, just think how King sabassa is going to turn out. He's already got monster heritage, assuming he also gets the proto stuff due to being royalty, he'll probably be even stronger.
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>>181805546
Post Shikimamo's skillset.
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>For 1 second I think how cool it would be if MGQ Paradox wasn't a porn game and I could openly discuss about it with people I know IRL
>And then I realize it must have been exactly that line of thought that gave us this abomination
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>>181805447
That was her non serious like the Lilith sisters in part 1 also chaos is a big deal
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>>181805546
>star platinum
What's that
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>>181804723
>Race isn't even fully leveled
That means he'll get even stronger also their another race for Nero and neris
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>>181806000
It's a JoJo reference.
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>>181806000
jojoke, the main character of part 3's stand gains the ability to move in stopped time for a tiny bit.

and even later gains the ability to stop time for a few seconds.
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>>181805621
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>>181806503
So what happens if you beat Shikimamo instead of nero/neris?
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>>181806683
Nothing because she was just playing around so she beats as easily anyway
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>>181806503
the translations I was able to get from that are
from top to bottom:
Nine-star darkness fan
???? name eludes me but the description mentions breaking the earth or some shit
Forbidden Technique: Nine Tails Burial
Moonlight Cannon
Ruler's Demon Eyes
Disruptive Wave

the first one seems to be the most powerful, fucking triple S rank scaling that hits 6 times randomly.
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>>181807319
>Ruler's Demon Eyes
What's that do?
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>>181808238
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>>181808342
Now that just isn't fair
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I really hope we get minagi and Tamamo along with some of the archangels for LOC par 2
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>>181808342
So even the Queens and Cirque de Croix are completely irrelevant for part 3. Everyone start grinding the bandits, team Alice/Ilias, and Sonya.
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>>181808807
Nevermind on leveling team Alice, just level Alice, I forgot that the other characters on her team aren't useful.
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>>181809186
>I forgot that the other characters on her team aren't useful.
Totally not black Alice is top tier
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>>181809186
>>181809352
Mass Quicken twice per turn........

Not!BAlice as a time-mage with Grangold King+Sword Master Luka and some random healer is fucking AMAZING.
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>>181809352
I meant that those characters will get new forms and their usefulness will go to part 3, and I did have not black Alice in mind but realized that they are different people and she probably won't get a new form for part 3.

>>181809548
That's going by that the 4HK, ancestors, the archangels, unsealed team Ilias, those four made to fight the 4HK, and Luka's kids don't beat them in that.
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>>181809935
>4HK
We've already fought 3 of them.
>ancestors, the archangels
Much, MUCH stronger than their sealed counterparts. Hell Tamamo has no chance against Shikimamo.
>those four made to fight the 4HK
Do they even matter anymore?

Also i love how according to Morrigan shes oh so much stronger than Alma Elma and then Alma goes out and punches Lilith in the face. Repeatedly.
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>>181810132
>Implying the battles affect how the characters work
Oh man, I really had trouble when the Honey Pot used Slime division and Clara against me.
Though you may have a point for Alma Elma.
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>>181810132
>Also i love how according to Morrigan shes oh so much stronger than Alma Elma and then Alma goes out and punches Lilith in the face. Repeatedly
She heard succubus queen and thought she'd be on the level of a queen class but not only are the Knights very strong even for the great monster war time but being in a world full of mana makes everyone stronger
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>>181810132
>Do they even matter anymore?
No but prom will make them anyway
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>>181805573
Imagine luka
I wonder if it has some effect on nero/neris
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>>181810132
>We've already fought 3 of them.
Granberia ran away from Demon Decapitation in the VN, Goblin girl is way stronger than her
>Much, MUCH stronger than their sealed counterparts. Hell Tamamo has no chance against Shikimamo.
We're talking about not black Alice, and Grangold king here
>Do they even matter anymore?
Did Grangold king matter before we knew about how ridiculously strong he was? Only to playthroughs that allowed boys and not elitists ones yet.
>Also i love how according to Morrigan shes oh so much stronger than Alma Elma and then Alma goes out and punches Lilith in the face. Repeatedly.
Could just be VN Alma and Paradox are of different levels of strength.
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>>181811261
>VN Alma and Paradox are of different levels of strength
They are, everything is stronger.

Hell Nero realizes this when he goes to Iliasville, everyone can use magic, everything is stronger.
Much Stronger.
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>>181811261
>Granberia ran away from Demon Decapitation in the VN
Come on now, really?
Granberia did not run away after seeing that move because it scared her, it made her interested in Luka and she wanted to see if he can go farther.
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>>181811261

Reread the VN, she wondered where Luka learned it from and then Alice shows up and commands her to leave.
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>>181811564
>>181811724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IkbCeZ9to
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>>181811564
Face it, Granberia cannot compare to the Goblin Bandit of the Earth of the Four Bandits.
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What are Heinrich's passives? Black Alice is supposed to be really strong how does he hold up?
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>>181812567
>too lazy to copy and paste just Heinrich
Heinrich:
Always equip swords/heavy swords
Always has sword skills and hero skills
Hero Skills do 50% more damage but cost 33% more SP

Eden
Can always equip spears/heavy spears
Can always use spear and holy skills
Spear and holy skills do 50% more damage but cost 33% more SP

Lucifina
All holy elemental attacks(not just the skill set) do 30% more damage
Bow skills, white magic, and black magic always available
Bow skills, white magic, and black magic are 30% more effective.

Michaela
All holy elemental attacks(not just the skill set) do 30% more damage
Can always use sword and spear skills
Sword and spear skills are 30% more effective
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>>181812750

Thanks, With the way things look I'm guessing Ilias gets a whole team of good while Alice gets one broken character. I don't know how good Morrigan is.
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>>181812750
Basically More Focused Luka without the versatility and as someone has said before Lucifina is basically Lolillas but better
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>>181813559
Lucy is the older of the three right ?
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>>181813719
No, thats Eden now.
Eden is actually number one now.
Even though shes being abused and harmed she just wants to have a family.
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>>181813828
Yes, that I understood.
But originally : is it Mika or Lucy who is the oldest ?
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>>181813878
Lucifina was the oldest and most proficient at combat, and apparently a magic-user as her fist would be actual WMDs.

Michaela was second and used a sword. She was slightly more level headed then Lucifina.

Eden was.... And she was barely considered a sister.
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>>181813878

Didn't Micaela think of Lucifina as the younger sister? it's a vague memory though don't quote me on it. Back when she was explaining everything in Enrika.
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Micaela was indeed the elder sister
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>>181813559
Ilias has the cost discount too, which was a bigger deal in Part 1.

I'm noticing a fair number of Part 2 characters are the opposite, bigger boosts, bigger costs, as the base costs are more sustainable with higher MP SP and Regens of both.

That said, I imagine one or more boosting passives are in the game which increase damage and costs and, as such, the Part 1 characters heavy on discounts will take THOSE passives to buff their damage... whereas the Part 2 characters with the boosters are more likely to take the discounts.
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>>181790639
anyone know how to recruit michaela/lucy on ilias route? i dont think theres any other way down farther down the shrine where i recruited eden, on B2, ive been back to destroyed ilias castle too, not sure where to get them
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I'm not even into the broken stuff yet but Chrome just learned Sylph (the Summon magic variety from the Animist(?) job) and that thing's already hitting pretty good.
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>>181814726
What do you think Luka and Illias will get in part 3 I mean I can see Illias getting fairy and Luka getting Apothosis in the Illias route due to the fact he going against the grain
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The succubus in the weapons shop of Succubus Village talks about how the Succubus Bustier is sold there. She says it's a secret, though. Is there any way to actually get it?

>>181813878
>>181813974
No, Michaela is the first Seraph. Eden is the third. Lucifina is the middle sister.
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>>181815310
>The succubus in the weapons shop of Succubus Village talks about how the Succubus Bustier is sold there. She says it's a secret, though. Is there any way to actually get it?
Wait, disregard it. The merchant there directly sells it himself.
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I saw somewhere that we can get the t-shirt from the VN.
If true, where?
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>>181815296
The trailer made it almost sound like everyone gets everything.
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>>181813719
>>181813828
>>181813878
>>181812750
where do you go to grab lucy/michaela, finished the game and still cant find them
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>>181815556

You mean the Enrikan shirt? you get that at Enrika.
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>>181815310
>No, Michaela is the first Seraph. Eden is the third. Lucifina is the middle sister.

Really? I'm pretty sure Lucifina is older even though you would think Michaela is older.
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>Luka
>Nero
>Mechapope
>Sabasa King
>Grangold King
>Heinrich
>Cyborg Marcellus
>Panty Sensei
I want this party.
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>>181815980
I'm pretty sure Ilias refers to Michaela as the first Seraph. Why do you think Lucifina is older? The wiki also corroborates what I say and lists Michaela as the first Seraph.
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Welp, my Luka Army no longer even remotely fits in 1 save file image. It's almost a shame all 12 party members don't follow you. This party is about 41 members in all.

>>181815837
The shrine south of where you found Eden.
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How is Luka's relationship with Eden? do they get along well?
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>>181817195
For some reason I also had that impression of Lucifina being first. Maybe it's because she's the strongest and seemed like the favorite? Plus Michaela followed her, in a sense, after she fell.
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>>181817585
Unlike with Luci and Mica, he outright asks her for sex
She agrees because she gets energy from it, then proceeds to train his dick because of his premature ejaculation problem
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>>181804149
so he give's me a high five?
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>>181805573
Imagine a whole world
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>>181815980
>>181818925
Okay, definitely confirmed that Michaela is older. The pocket castle conversation between Michaela and Lucifina has the latter referring to the former as her older sister. The pocket castle conversation between her and Ilias also has Ilias telling her to study like her older sister Michaela.
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>>181819225
Their twins so it doesn't really matter much
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Why do angels like polar bear girls so much? Even Luci and Mica
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>>181819394
They were the first 2. Was it stated that they were twins? At any rate, why are you even telling me this? This entire conversation was about establishing who the older sister is, and here you come and say it doesn't matter. What made you think that makes any sense to say here?
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>>181819417
Their White and fluffy
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>>181819417
Why would anyone not love bears ?
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>>181804149
>implying any of us has an actual girlfriend
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>>181810132
>Hell Tamamo has no chance against Shikimamo.

Only because of the time limit. It was stated on 2 different occasions that they were even in power while she was able to maintain her adult form.

Which is funny if you think about it. Shikitamo would apparently have years and years of freedom in her original form to get stronger while Tamamo is sealed the whole time and yet they're both still equal.

Although yeah, I thought Neris and Nero would be stronger than part 2 implied them to be. As far as power goes they're probably about the same as ancestor level(which is still crazy strong but yeah, I was honestly expecting Ilias tier or even higher)
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Wait, if I have Sylph summon Sylph via the Animist job... will I cause some kind of Sylphception?
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>>181819845
>Which is funny if you think about it. Shikitamo would apparently have years and years of freedom in her original form to get stronger while Tamamo is sealed the whole time and yet they're both still equal.
Sealed form, but Tamamo was out and about the entire time. That was the mission given to her by Alice I, after all. She didn't just randomly get out; her getting out of the seal was a premeditated action.

And for what reason would Shikimamo even be stronger? She's already one of the strongest beings in a world where the only threats (Ilias and her angels) have disappeared. Tamamo, on the other hand, had to learn and improve herself in her weakened form. Though those techniques may not directly equal into strength in her unsealed form, at the very least, it probably means she's more versatile with a wider breadth of knowledge than Shikimamo.
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>>181819845
If normal Tamamo got more than few minutes to get used to her unsealed form she could probably wreck her unflufy clone
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>>181820043
She'll summon Zylphe.
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>>181819845
>Which is funny if you think about it. Shikitamo would apparently have years and years of freedom in her original form to get stronger while Tamamo is sealed the whole time and yet they're both still equal.
It shows that succubus Tamamo is lazy and that all ancestors and archangels probably never trained post war or at all
>Although yeah, I thought Neris and Nero would be stronger than part 2 implied them to be. As far as power goes they're probably about the same as ancestor level(which is still crazy strong but yeah, I was honestly expecting Ilias tier or even higher)
Nero and neris true power will be released when he removes those belts and she gets the luka.

Although in all seriousness I think people underestimate the ancestors plus Lucifina and micaela their not that much weaker than Alice 1 and illas
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>>181810132
>Also i love how according to Morrigan shes oh so much stronger than Alma Elma and then Alma goes out and punches Lilith in the face. Repeatedly.

The Lilith sisters are also stated to be equal to the Arch Angels(including Eden) which means Alma Elma is on par with Eden.

I didn't expect that. Granted that's probably only considering regular Eden and not Heaven Eden
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>>181820428
My bad, Seraphs not Archangels.

Too many fucking tiers of angels
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>>181820428
Alma elma probably stronger from all that mana too although saying that the seraph have fallen far
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>>181820514
>7 archangels(new)
>seraph
>ugly
>normal archangels
>Angels
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>>181820043
Kind of reminds me of a gag back in Oblivion and its expansion packs. Long story short in one of the expansions ya wind up becoming the god (more or less) of chaos (As in the lack of order). Back on the main game there is a statue to that god, And ya can pray to it for a quest.

However if you did that expansion then go pray, instead of that god yammering at you for a bit and givin you a quest, Yer butler from that expansion picks up the metaphorical phone and says something along the lines of

>"Praying to yourself my lord? well that does make sense for the god of chaos, your predecessor did have a task unfinished in this area, care to take care of it?"
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>>181817553
>This party is about 41 members in all.

So is that the most total number of characters you can get using group units? I love the idea that Luka's rolling around with an actual battalion
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>>181821457
At least for right now, possibly. I haven't done the snow island yet on this save, I don't know how big the Angel Soldiers group is, or if it even is a group unit. Also, I didn't count the Junk Dolls since their sprite is 1 model rather than 4.

But yeah, it's:
>Luka (mandatory)
>6 Faeries group
>4 x 4 Plants, Sneks, Slimes, Zombies groups
>3 x 6 remaining slots
So 1 + 6 + 16 + 18 = 41
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>>181791832
Hot.
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With Iiias's character development do you think she'd ever mature enough to extend an olive branch to Alice and invite her into the party?
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>>181823240
They've actually already gotten along briefly, over dumplings.
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At least we're not /mgqg/
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>【ソニア】ねぇ……やっぱり、行くのやめない?
>【アリス】並行世界に行く前、毎回そう言うのだな……そろそろ慣れてはどうだ?
Heh.
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>>181822339
angel soldiers are another group of three for some reason, despite there being five in total you can meet in random encounters or have in the H-scene.
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>>181820428
I wouldn't say it's too weird. At the time of Part 2 of the VN, Alma Elma's martial arts probably would have made her stronger than Granberia. It's just that, by the end of Part 3, Granberia advanced her swordsmanship level even further after being inspired by Luka's technique.
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>>181823764
because they're SHIT
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>>181823828
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>>181823828
>the goddess that can remember every man, woman and child born on earth can't tell the different between you and your sisters without name tags
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>>181823240
Kind of makes me wonder how the routes work in conjunction with the monster vs angel thing.

Seems like it's plausible for the opposite side to end up as an enemy at some point
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>>181823956
Logic, she knows every humans and they're different.
But most angels are just clone without particularity. And unlike humans, she don't even give a fuck about them.
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How are the new Alice scenes?
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>>181820141
Is this canon?
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>>181824126
New what?
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>>181824126

What new Alice scenes do you mean Black Alice?
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>>181824279
>>181824324
Wait, there aren't any? I haven't played the game yet.
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>Sacred and Profane
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>>181823973
Well the major case is that IIias route Luka has his mom, his aunt and Promestien where as Alice route Luka has some weird battle android/mate in HIld. the spirit of Chaos,the four knights, the four elemental spirits and a Sonya that didn't end up having to go away
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>>181823240
>choice to extend olive branch opens up
>illias literally smacks her with an olive branch
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>>181824402

None but that's probably because she already had 2 scenes.
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>>181790639
>Alicetroemeria
>Has on the Blessed Veil by default
>Description reads, "Beautiful veil worn by those swearing eternal love."
Hmmm. I wonder what this mean.

>>181823240
In both her own and Alice's routes, Ilias ends up developing the same way. In Alice's route, she's rather attached to her two companions, even though she pretty much renamed them by accident.

But yeah, when things get serious, they're sure to put their differences aside. That said, whoever you don't partner up with ends up being rather weak, so it feels like they wouldn't be able to contribute much at all?
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>>181823956
>Accidentally break that vase the goddess has been saving for a thousand years
>Blame it on your sister
>She can't tell you apart, so you get off scot-free
>Eden still gives you chicken nuggets at the end of the day
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>>181825161
redrawn imps
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>>181825092
>Hmmm. I wonder what this mean.
She'll really wanted Heinrich
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>>181823956
She likes humans more. The entire reason she desired for humanity so much was because he was disappointed with how the angels were just copies of her. Well, that said, she's still rather attached to her first creations.
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Alright so I don't work weekdays so nothing new but some anon asked me to do a mediafire upload. I think it's a pretty straightforward installation but just in case simply move the files in the folders to their matching counterparts in your game folder (only the data file should overwrite). Also instead of the entire game i've opted to just include the files needed for the mods. This fulfills that whole make the download easier thing I suppose.

https://www.mediafire.com/?7youocwvq8g3aa1

https://mega.nz/#F!1m4AgaAR!2ZjhnVEEFfZN13ejaRWXgg

Enjoy
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>>181825371
Wouldn't mind more redrawn imps. Oppai lolis are the best!
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>>181825623
Thanks based Cecil mod guy but does this this include the satania quest?
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I'm kinda worried IIias is legitimately falling in love with Luka now
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>>181825814
Why Yes, yes it does.
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>>181825092
>Beautiful veil worn by those swearing eternal love
Heinrich cheated on Black Alice.
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Almost... done...
Almost caught em all in Part 2.
So many freaking monmusu-mons!

Even so I yet have some sidequests to do like the Colosseum, the Alraune royalty succession, etc.

Many advanced race unlocks seem to be tied to the advanced job unlocks, I was shocked to realize my succubi, spiders, etc had advanced race options I didn't realize I'd unlocked.
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>>181826056
Where did you find the Moth, Mosquito, and Caterpillar Girls? I can't seem to encounter them on Ledo Mountain (where the Queen Bee was).
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everybody play monster girl gamu! good game!
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>>181826014
Why is black Alice the cutest when she's not smiling?
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>>181825814
Oh I should mention it now but to start the quest just go to the quest board in the castle (after recruiting Cecil of coarse). Also I did a bit of a speed job when converting it to part 2 and haven't been able to test EVERYTHING for ful functionality so if you run into any issues just send a message here (with a picture so I'll see it). There's about a 40% chance I'll see it but a 100% chance I'll try to fix it.
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>>181826195
Fuck off
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>>181826114
Pretty sure it was there. Sometimes RNG throws you some weird abnormalities.
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So when you get the slug sisters what happens to the youth they were raping? Did we NTR that sad sod?
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>>181826383
It's just that the only things I ever met were the silkworm girl, that other monster that shows up with her, and the bee girls. I met them in my Ilias run in 2.01, but after I upgraded to 2.02 and started my Alice run, I haven't seen them at all.
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>>181826448
Yes, yes we did.
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>>181825371
I like the imps as well, though.
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>>181826619
I don't remember this play...
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>>181825823
whats wrong with that, now they can finally have some "family bonding" time. since you know homewrecker snek destroyed that in the original timeline
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>>181826556
I had a super low encounter rate and avoided almost any fights in my first story playthru where I did the good coexisty ending for Plansect by exposing the Birdsnek and Cat.

This 1st run, I sided with Plants so I can fight Queen Bee as a boss and steal her Milk and possible panties.

I *really* doubt the other Delphinus insects only show up if you do that though, since I got all the plants just fine.

Have you tried the overworld in the plansect region? I really imagine they were on the mountain, but maybe?

I did have similar ridiculous RNG in the Labyrinth in part 1. Where on my Ilias run, I *ONLY* ever encountered Lucifina. And keep in mind I farmed each of the superbosses 2+ times to duplicate full item sets AND just for green chest loots and literally NEVER saw Micaela until my Alice run later. Though I believe Lucifina still showed up on my Alice runs.

So extreme RNG can occur.
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So what caused Lilith and alma elma to get into fight?
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>>181826894
>Have you tried the overworld in the plansect region? I really imagine they were on the mountain, but maybe?
Yeah, they haven't shown up at all. I guess I can only push through it. It's annoying, though.

>>181826906
Alma Elma left the Monster Lord Army because she didn't like that the Monster Lord was ordering them to sow chaos and violence. The Lilith Sisters are also responsible for the chaos and violence going on in the world right now. Ergo, they're threats she needs to put down to bring about peace again.
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>>181826906
Alma is currently rebelling against Alice 15th and siding primarily with Grand Noah. She wants nothing to do with Alice 15th's current monster supremacy policy. Tamamo also left to mope in Yamatai.

Because Lilith was the driving force behind Grandgold's war on everyone else, Alma is none too fond of her.

Granberry and Erubetie are following orders but, in both fights against them at Undine's and Mandy's, it is noted by literally everyone that they're conflicted and not giving it their all.
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>>181826265
how to recruit her?
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>>181827285
>Tamamo also left to mope in Yamatai.
Poor Tamamo
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>>181827303
There is an ancient castle near the slums where she can be found (prepare for a long fight unless you know the trick).
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>Luka tells the litlith sisters he'll kill all of them if they touch Sonya and the seraphs to shut the fuck up or else if they don't stop badmouthing her.

Crap, there's going to be a moment in both routes where Luka will fight Nero and Neris because of Sonya isn't there? There's no way Sonya's coming out of this alive regardless of which route you choose and as people pointed out, she fits Luka's little sister complex perfectly
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>>181827285
Wait, wasn't Morrigan ordered to reenact Luka's encounter with Alma on the boat? And Astaroth's seal on Kraken was because of her Aqua Pentagram bullshit in the original VN

I'll just wait for part 2 to be translated if I want to actually understand the reason behind the Grangold war bullshit. There has to be a reason for this besides "lol violence"
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>>181827859
The reason was because there was the possibility of a war erupting between Grand Noah and Grangold in the original timeline as well. Although it didn't happen, since there was a chance of it occurring, having the war happen would lessen the chaosization rate of Paradox World. Mephisto explains it herself.
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>>181825623
So does this work with part one, as well, or is it just part 2?

I'd like to take a look at how you did it so maybe I could do something, myself. I take it you just manually altered all the files with rpg maker?
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>>181827986
>machine translation
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>>181827986
Though it's less about reducing the chaos rate and more about 'not increasing' it. They're not trying to actively bring it down so much as they're trying to progress their plans in a way that doesn't accelerate the spread of chaos and fuck everything up
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>>181827986
Mephisto is pretty great
her comments are gold and im a little disappointed she doesn't have bonus dialogue if you bring her around part 1 during a NG+
shes basically professor mcgonagall with a sinister face
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>>181828265
no, meWORSTo
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>>181828235
They failed horribly at the end of part 2
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>>181828412
They succeeded in removing the Paradox.
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>>181827859
The reason given by their side is to reduce the human population to make the monster takeover easier.
Morrigan could have been seen as cutting off reinforcements from Ilias continent.
Replacing Kraken would reduce human-monster relations, as Meia was capturing the mermaids that were getting permission to marry humans.
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>>181828235
Why exactly does everyone care what happens to the Paradox timeline anyways though? Why risk the spread of Chaos possibly seeping into their own timelines for such insignificant people?
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>>181828620
Because it's the source of the chaos.
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>>181828620
It's the main alt world
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>>181828620
Well, most people probably consider their home timeline/dimension to matter the most.

The other meddlers are doing it for the sake of their home timelines and don't give a shit about the Paradox one.
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>>181828504
They're not trying to do a monster takeover. They're literally just trying to make everyone in the world die(monters AND humans) as part of some unexplained large-scale ceremony involving their souls while also doing so in a way that doesn't stray too far from the original timeline.

>>181828620
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT OKAY.

Yeah the game doesn't explain why the first parallel world is so important but it just... is.
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>>181828504
What's the point? 3 out of the 4 leaders of Sentora aren't even human.
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>>181828937
Aren't the succubi trio doing it out because they actually think it's the best option? A for the greater good kind of thing?
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>>181828265
>campfire song
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>>181828141
Well I adapted it to part 2 so I don't think it would work with part 1 anymore due to backwards compatibility etc... as for making your own characters, it takes a bit of getting use to in my case very little alterations are done to the primary game (thus why none of them respond to the talk skill). It's really just about getting use to it although I should mention the code changed slightly between part 1 and 2 so pick your poison i guess.
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>>181828937
Wow, and people thought Ilias was evil.
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I wouldn't want to be in Luka's shoes now, he's going to be fighting enemies from IIias and Alice's fucked up worlds as ell as enemies of his own world and maybe even Nero and Neris as well as well as Hild,Sonya and Nuruko in one path and his resurrected mother and aunt and Sonya in another path. Why do I feel like the reason for Alice and IIias routes is because both paths are wrong?
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>>181828937
>spoiler
You sure you aren't talking about the angels here?
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>>181829374
Because they are both wrong the true path is to never take Sonya to begin with. She can't become apotosis if she's never there.
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>>181829408
Both Angel world and monster world plan seem about the same
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>>181829509
Why are they adversaries
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>>181829492
Sorry anon but white rabbit fixed that for us
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>>181829246
You know what campfire songs lead to, right?

>>181829408
>>181829509
>Ilias World: Police state of blissful fluffy cloud fluffy wing Angel happiness
>Our only indication of monster world is Succuus Village: In total chaos and fighting ON A GOOD DAY, where walking through alleys gets you raped
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>>181829641
They hate each other also they want their world to be safe not others
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>>181829408
No, the angels plan is nicknamed the "Ark project" and it involves taking a small amount of "chosen people" and putting them on their "ark" (in other words, their world) to save them.

One of the main conflicts is about their methodology. The monster method presumably involves the souls transmigrating and being reborn in some fashion in their monster world, but the way Ilias speaks of the ceremony seems to imply that it's not all smiles and rainbows and the details of how it works have been purposely not touched upon yet. The positive though, is that they can technically 'save' everybody. The angel method involves only saving a few instead of everyone, but it doesn't require killing everyone and using some funky black magic. It also means that everyone that's left out are screwed
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>>181829742
That's a pretty crappy MTL. Use more than one, anon.
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>>181829325
I see. I actually fooled around with adding characters to part 1 back when it first came out. If anything, I may just add something to that.

>I should mention the code changed slightly between part 1 and 2
Is that why the skill words dialogue doesn't seem to be in the same place as the part 1 characters?
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>>181829742
>>181829909
Just use google, all others are shit
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>>181829841
I was thinking that the monsters' method might be something akin to this one Hellboy plotline where this one occult group wanted to kill all of humanity and store their souls in these special bodies where the members of their group would store their own souls and act as the central minds, in essence, saving humanity from the coming doomsday by having them all become a part of a gestalt hivemind with the occult group as the leaders.
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>>181830047
Nah, google isn't always that reliable either. Hence the need to use more than one.
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>>181829928
They didn't seem different to me.. Albeit there is now two sections for skill dialogue (for part 1 character and for part 2 characters). I was more referring to differences with stats and how text is rendered when talking.
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>>181829641

They're fighting over the same thing that's why.
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>>181829841
>(((((chosen people)))))
The jews did this.
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>>181829909
>>181830047
>>181830184
That's not even the issue. The problem is most of the others constantly bug out with Unrecognized Response Received shit. Excite just does it much less often, but still annoyingly often.

As a result, I have NO fucking clue what Queen Mermaid wants before I can recruit her emo ass.
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>>181829841
Both sound horrible well atleast the monsters seem to of put more effort in
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>>181830453
she's worried about her daughter
Do her quest, I think you start it by chatting with her at the pocket castle ship
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>>181830240
Strange. I looked through some of the scripts the other day and while I could find stuff like the library entries for part 2 characters, I couldn't find some of the other stuff like what they say during battles. Maybe I fucked up looking at something.

How are the stats and text different, though? Sorry, I haven't really taken a good look. If I do add anything, it'll probably be just to part one just because
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>>181830949
That's what I was thinking but I must've skipped Ell's dialogue too much. I fed her like 30 Suiyaki to max her affection thinking that was it.
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>>181830909
>Both sound horrible
Welcome to SMT: Porn Edition, were slut monsters play the role of Chaos, and slut angels play the role of Law.
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>>181830909
Put more effort in? In what way? They just intend to kill everyone and have their souls undergo some sort of weird, apparently horrifying process.
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>>181831429
Our Chaos is different.
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>>181831558
The only thing Angels have done is make two villages deserted and kill micaela and attack the Lilith sisters
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Part 2 was a mistake, it ends just as it's finally getting good
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>>181831558
I didn't touch upon it in my explanation, but they also explain that the main reason for this is because the parallel worlds are being destroyed because they're not supposed to exist in the first place. So their logic is that "If we combine everything into one(our) world, then the destruction will stop" and thus they're technically at least saving their world.

I don't recall the angels ever explaining how their plan would stop the parallel worlds from becoming destroyed(though I guess it's possible that once there's only one left, it'll just stop on its own)
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>>181831589
Our Chaos is BETTER
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>>181831801
And? What? All the monsters have to do is make people go crazy and attack one another? What are you intending to do my describing what they're doing? How does this relate to the fact that you said "the monsters are putting more effort" and what I pretty much said about them "not really putting more effort". Are you saying it's harder work to hypnotize people and making them attack everyone else?
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>>181832048
lol
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>>181831912
Anon, you've got a big misunderstanding here. There's no difference between what the monsters and angels are doing; it's just how they intend to accept people from other parallel worlds where they differ. The monsters will accept everyone by killing everyone and taking their souls. The angels will just select whoever meets their criteria since a single world can't support the entire populations of all the other existing parallel worlds. That's it. I'm not sure what else you think their plans differ in.
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>>181827417
Mind posting a screenshot? All i can find is a bunch of pedestals and some chest rooms.
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>>181832048
Yes I believe going around the world weaking chaos and running a war is more effort than causing chaos to get stronger half the time and just saving like 2 villages
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It's obvious both law and chaos suck balls, I'm not choosing either
You, too, better not be a compromising bitch and stick to your ideals of wanting to recruit and fuck everyone
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>>181830909
Monster world is sexual abuse for eternity!
Angel world is non-sexual abuse for eternity!
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>>181832275
I just mean to say that the monsters explicitly say that their plan is to stop the destruction of the parallel worlds(so in that sense you get the feeling that they were trying to think of a solution to the problem) whereas the angel's plan doesn't seem to be presented as anything except essentially taking in refugees and in the Ilias route it's not really explained how this would eventually stop the destruction of worlds
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>>181832401
Anon, the story tells you quite directly through White Rabbit just before you enter the Tartarus that all 3 sides (Alice XV, Angels, Monsters) are working towards decreasing the effects of chaosization. So that's another misunderstanding you got there; you actually thinking the monsters are the only ones doing anything about the chaosizatation rate. Who, exactly, is "causing chaos to get stronger half the time"? Because it's your words versus the text in game.
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>>181832009
Delphinus is good!
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>>181832472
Nah. Ilias rewards her pious believers with sex, actually. I mean, sex with Delphinus angels, so... but yeah, canonically, the most devoted get to have sex as a reward.
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>>181829841
This...this is...this is the plot of SMT 2....
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>>181832009
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
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Leave the world to me
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>>181832508
Where does it explicitly explain that they'll stop the destruction of all the parallel worlds? Get some back-up for those words of yours, otherwise, you might just be misremembering things like that those couple of anons who thought Lucifina was the older sister between her and Michaela.
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>>181831912
>I don't recall the angels ever explaining how their plan would stop the parallel worlds from becoming destroyed(though I guess it's possible that once there's only one left, it'll just stop on its own)
Hasn't played part 2 yet but in part 1 they didn't seem to care about the chaos destroying everything I mean
>Zion attacks morrigan and the boat when even morrigan says it's stupid
>they kill micaela
>all they've done is attack people trying to stop the chaos
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Dispatched in mankind's darkest hour, we are knights of the blue flame!
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>>181832697
>I mean, sex with Delphinus angels
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>181832508
>it's not really explained how this would eventually stop the destruction of worlds

It is actually, both the angel and mosnter world are trying to merge their world with the others in order to make them the right timeline so no chaos spreads, but both have different methods of dealing with the people living in those worlds, for this reason La Criox says that the paradox world is doomed, because the world will get merged either way with angels and monsters, there is probably a third option with La Criox saving the paradox world somehow.
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>>181832680
Sometimes
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>>181832813
Not him but Passive aggressive much
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>>181832813
【リリス】
知っての通り、全ての並行世界が消滅の危機に瀕しています。
唯一の望みは、世界の完全合一以外にありません。

【ルカ】
世界の完全合一?
それはつまり、全部の平行世界を合体させるって事か?

【リリス】
まあ、そういう理解で問題はないですね。
私達は、全ての世界の統一を成し遂げようとしているのです。

Seems pretty clear what the logic is there. "All the parallel worlds are being destroyed, so our only hope is to merge them all into one" so they're not parallel worlds anymore and thus they are saved. You get the feeling that they're out to stop the destruction not just save people
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>>181832884
Morrigan was quite fine with killing Luka and company, though? Since she felt pissed off at the fact that they hurt her as much as they did? In fact, if you talk to Morrigan, she's actually quite fine with deviating from the true history because she thinks it'd be better that way, unlike her 2 older sisters. Morrigan says it's stupid only because she got caught off-guard. Zion just wants to take down one of the primary enforcers of the enemy.

Why did you bring up Michaela's death? Gnosis killed her, which means that her death was probably needed (one of the acts to slow down the world's destruction, most likely). It's made immediately clear in the scene with Gnosis that she only kills when needed; even when you have Alice and Gnosis would gladly kill her, she refrains from doing so because of the repercussions it would have. Your reading comprehension is truly enough to make someone balk.
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>>181833298
>which means that her death was probably needed
Not really. Gnosis is retarded.
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>>181833260
Yeah, by killing everyone. Perhaps having a person share their memories across parallel worlds by merging their souls into one body? At any rate, from the context of the conversation, that's not a separate plan from whatever they intend to use the soul return system for.
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>>181833063
>It is actually, both the angel and mosnter world are trying to merge their world with the others in order to make them the right timeline so no chaos spreads

Where do angels talk about merging worlds like the monsters do because I don't remember anything about that and if anything they seem staunchly opposed to the only known methodology that makes that possible at the moment
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>>181833298
>which means that her death was probably needed (one of the acts to slow down the world's destruction, most likely).
Yeah remember when a seraph from another world came and killed micaela in the VN me never,Im beginning to think you have no idea how chaos even works in the game

>Zion just wants to take down one of the primary enforcers of the enemy.
And fights between people from other world increases chaos
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>>181833441
That's what the soul ceremony is for yes, to merge all the worlds into one. In order to stop the destruction of the parallel worlds. Which is my entire point.

What exactly is it that you take issue with?
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>>181825823

>I'm kinda worried IIias is legitimately falling in love with Luka now

Technically it was already shown that she had an interest in him (or rather, lust) during the original trilogy which is shown in the alternate bad ending for Chapter 2. It never developed into anything until Paradox rolled around though.

Whether she genuinely falls in love with him in Part 3 is up in the air at the moment. Her campfire scenes (especially the one before you get to Grand Noah) show her openly discussing her thoughts and feelings towards co-existence with Luka, something that never happened in Part 1 or heck, even the original trilogy. But whether it does actually happen will be determined by some major plot reason; probably some existential crisis that Luka saves her from...or some other stereotypical heroic act that makes her fall in love with him for real.

Guess we'll find out in 1-2 years time...
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>>181833705
Queen Alraune should have sex 24/7

That body demands it. Let's put it to good use.
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>>181833719
Not him
But maybe most of what the consider the true history is guess work on their part
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>>181834231
more like ex-queen Alraune mirite
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>>181833260
>>181833829
>【リリス】それも、「この世界」も含めた全ての世界を救うため。あらゆる魂を肉体から解き放ち、我々の世界に合一させるのです。
They're not literally merging the worlds into one. Their definition of saving other worlds is transferring the souls of every living being from other worlds to their own.

Essentially, what I said here
>>181832275
And yet you seemed to disagree here
>>181832508
By saying that they'll stop the destruction of the parallel worlds. They're not. They're taking in refugees like the angels, but not physically; just their souls.

This is why I said you've got a huge misunderstanding.
>so in that sense you get the feeling that they were trying to think of a solution to the problem
You say this as if they're doing anything different from the angels. Essentially, they're not. For reasons I explained already, with you apparently misinterpreting things.
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>>181816859
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>>181833705
Thank you Un_Do from saving us from Delphinus and all the other terrible or lazy ass artists from drawing more girls.
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>>181833719
>And fights between people from other world increases chaos
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>>181833572
The monsters aren't literally merging worlds, anon. They "merge" worlds by taking all the inhabitants' souls and migrating them to their world. When they say they're preserving a world, they're not talking about the world, but its inhabitants.
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Speaking of the subject, how the hell do those other worlds have such accurate knowledge of true history and more importantly, why do they also have the ability to cross worlds willy nilly despite the fact that Ilias is blown away that Luka and Marcellus have this power and it's supposed to be super rare and unique
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>>181834304
I doubt it's anything like that micaela was probably killed because she's too dangerous to leave alive she's was trying to stop the chaos if she could get her power back or met up with luka dad she'd be a big pain to deal with
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>>181833572
>>181834451
Actually, this pretty much ties in with what Raphaela and Saja each call Luka, doesn't it? Child of Judgement and World Breaker respectively. I'm guessing that, with the former, the angels want Luka to choose who'll live while, with the latter, the monsters want Luka to destroy every world to transfer everyone's souls on over?
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>>181834459

My guess is Black Alice fuckery.
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>>181834459
God Black Alice probably gave them the information for fun
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>>181834459
>>181834665
>>181834810
Yeah. Sounds like something Black Alice would do, definitely. This is the same person who knowingly allowed her younger cousin to set up a coup against her within her own castle, after all.
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>>181834451
I honestly doubt that they offer salvation, if anything, I think these worlds just want more fuel for their angels/monsters to eat and enslave, after all, we know both species are some greedy ass fuckers when it comes to servants and slaves, why would they pass up the opportunity to get more?
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>>181834459
The other factions have complete control of their respective worlds. They can just test everyone in the world until they find someone with Remina royal blood, or whatever causes them to be able to use Tartarus doors.
Knowledge of the original timeline might have something to do with control of the time-reversal/revival system or testing scenarios in other worlds that they have access to.
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>>181834338
>>181834451
Ah, so basically you're saying that merging worlds by taking the souls of that world and putting them through their own world's soul cycling system is just as much 'merging' as just ripping citizens from another world and placing them in theirs?

I get what you're saying now, but you can understand why I didn't come to that conclusion. Especially since the talk about merging only happens with the monster side and the angels don't suggest anything of the sort, so it was hard for me to jump to the conclusion of 'the angels are using the same thing' method though they never mentioned a word of it.
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>>181834459
Because it's easier to make a story when you have mysterious people with mysterious knowledge that can teleport in and out to plot dump and pull the focal characters into and out of a pinch as the writer requires?
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>>181833981
I hope you like maggots in your ass
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So, if Paradox Ilias Needed to be sealed to prevent chaos, why did they do it in such a way that it allowed the Remina experiment to take place, further damaging the time line? Is the paradox world timeline shifted back 30 years compared to the VN or something and they just HAD to take Ilias out of the equation then? If true history needed to be maintained, why would ilias need to be sealed before the point she's supposed to die, anyway?
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>>181835029
Angels don't really eat humans, anon. Putting aside the fact that the scene of Gnosis eating Luka's balls doesn't show up in the game, the context of that was probably as a form of punishment for Luka rather than anything else.

Ilias doesn't need slaves. She needs worshipers who live as she says they should. As Raphaela said, the humans who live under her live comfortable and peaceful lives. Ilias desires to be worshiped, to have the attention of others devoted to her. Plus, she's the goddess of humanity. Why wouldn't she claim all the devoted worshipers she can?

As for Alice I; as harsh as her subordinates may have appeared so far, it's not like she'd be devoid of any feelings of empathy. In the first place, she sealed herself in the original history because the world would have been destroyed if her war against Ilias continued. She herself wasn't in any danger, but all her creations were.

Perhaps by saving the people of other parallel worlds, she sees it as giving them a chance to live and survive when, otherwise, they would have no chance at all. Though they won't necessarily prosper in their new lives, they'd at least have as much as a chance as anybody else to strive for a better life.

That's just how MGQ rolls ever since the VN. When it tries to present two sides as being equal (and, inevitably, having Luka walking down the middle path in search of a solution), it gives them points that someone could agree with.
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Where/When do you get Eden, Lucifina, and Micaela? I feel like I'm nearing the end of the game and I haven't found shit
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Where/When do you get Eden, Lucifina, and Micaela? I feel like I'm nearing the end of the game and I haven't found shit
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Is it just me or is alma elma good at everything when it comes to fighting
>sex
>magic
>beating the crap out of people
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>>181835717
Snow continent, Ilias route only. Literally in the second last dungeon for Lucifina and Michaela and the third last for Eden.
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>>181835310
Actually wait a minute

> 【アスタロト】
>その合一には、生命エネルギーも含まれるの。
>いわゆる魂ってのを、全て私達の世界に引き込まないといけないわ。

>生命エネルギーも含まれるの
>も

Whatever their merging process entails, the taking human souls and putting them in their world is just one part of the process, not the core of it. So there's much more to just merging than that
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>>181835845
That double spoiler.
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>>181835598
Did you not understand? Ilias' constant rewinds of Luka's deaths weakened the fabric of time, Black Alice's death while infused with the White Rabbit drug, and the Remina experiment to summon Heinrich's soul using his sword (which had Black Alice's blood on it) all coincided together to create an effect at a particular point of the timeline. When Black Alice manifested then and there and came into power, it also caused a backlash on the Ilias of that time period and she became a kernel of chaos. Her continued existence spreads chaos, so Eden had to seal her to stop the effects.

You've also got some other misconceptions, but I don't really want to bother correcting you on so much stuff. It feels like it'd take a frustrating amount of effort to start from the ground up explaining things to you.
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>>181835845
>third last for Eden
Eden is found in the 3rd room of her dungeon.
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>>181835789
She still lost to the sisters and got captured, although it was 2v1
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>>181836324
I more meant she a real jack of all trades, do we have any idea on her age?
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>>181836147
See
>>181833196
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>>181835697
>That's just how MGQ rolls ever since the VN. When it tries to present two sides as being equal (and, inevitably, having Luka walking down the middle path in search of a solution), it gives them points that someone could agree with.
The sad part is that the angels are always the worse part of the deal, yeah the humans are basically food for the monsters and that's all they'll ever be in monster world but at least they'll too drunk on the pleasure to care, as we've seen in angel world the populace are trapped mentally in hell, IIias gave them free will yet prevented them from acting on it. even the VN was like that, there weren't any sympathic angels nor were their any who did anything sexual for pleasure or love or anything, they saw it as a punishment despite how people treated it
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>>181836147

>Ilias' constant rewinds of Luka's deaths weakened the fabric of time

That's not quite true. While they certainly weakened it whenever she reversed time, they didn't cause any impacts on the stability of the spacetime and it could repair itself with no further issues.

The sole contributors to the whole Paradox crisis was the imbalance of Holy and Dark energy caused by VN Illias' death, and the summoning and subsequent rebirth of VN Black Alice as the third God.
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>>181836402
18
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>>181836147
But the remina experiment is what caused black alice from the original timeline to manifest in the paradox timeline. An experiment which Ilias prevents in the original timeline, so why is she being prevented from stopping it in the paradox timeline, allowing BA to manifest there?
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>>181836840
I really really don't believe you
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>>181836920
Black Alice was in the possession of the drug for a very long time wasn't she
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>>181836920
Timey Wimey stuff.

Basically the damage to the space-time continuum caused causality to be fucked up too and Ilias's death in the future also had repercussions on Ilias in the past
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>>181836928
Honest! Look, the highschool uniform still fits
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>>181836615
Nah, you're just projecting there. They're not really in hell. Some people may be unsatisfied, but others are living fulfilling lives. Not even talking about fanatic priests, but guys like the tree-whisperer.

You say that people on monster world would be "too drunk on the pleasure to care", but that's clearly not the case. We've got firsthand experience through Luka himself; even if it feels good, a person can still be scared out of their minds. Heck, just look at Succubus Village pre- and post-saving it. When it's consensual raping, everyone's having a good time, but when it's plain rape, no matter how good it feels, they're still reluctant. Then there are monsters who eat people for food, like the Lady Village monsters. Or Morrigan, who turns people into dried fish before they even know it.

It's not all hunky-dory stuff. It's typically shown as being horrifying and unpleasant when it's not consensual, anon. You're just putting an unfair tilt on angel world. "Trapped mentally in hell" your ass. Most of them are clearly quite happy there, with 2 people clearly showing dissatisfaction (guy who gets a lightning bolt to the face and flowershop girl who wanted to succeed her parents' shop) and possibly the weapons shop dealer, though his situation was a bit ambiguous.
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>>181836615
Don't forget that the angels are more than willing to kill all humans without hesitation so yeah they're far worse.
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>>181837138
>with 2 people clearly showing dissatisfaction >guy who gets a lightning bolt to the face
Yeah not him but I think the reason why no one is dissatisfied is quite in your face also pretty sure those the people from those deserted villages were brainwashed
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>>181837312
>Don't forget that the angels are more than willing to kill all humans without hesitation so yeah they're far worse.

The monsters loyal to the monster lord were more than happy to attempt to genocide humanity when Alice XV commanded it.
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>>181837570
>The monsters loyal to the monster lord
So no one?
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>>181837570
Anon if the succubus sisters wanted they could have dried lots of villages in a really short period of time.
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>>181837138
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life
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>>181837671
If by no one you mean 4 armies, then sure.
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>>181837676
The sisters both aren't loyal to XV and also literally had genocide as part of their plan.
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>>181837980
You mean the people who joined up with black Alice in the VN and have no loyalty at all?
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>>181830453
Recruit Queen Alraune, Iron Maiden
Check Notice in Pocket Castle
Talk to El on Castle's Pirate Ship
Talk to Queen Alraune
Go to Natalia Beach
Event battle against Mini Crab-girl
Event
Queen Mermaid recruitable
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>>181838096
This isn't the VN and obviously the political climate is different since the Monster Lord wasn't murdered and her successor isn't a young adult that doesn't know what she should do.
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>>181837980
What armies?
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>>181838445
>their loyal
>but only when it's something they wanted to do in the first place
Can you really not see the problem here
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Clearly, monsters and Alice I didn't do anything wrong and are the good guys, humans on their world live happily ever after. If monsters decide to kill someone on a whim - it's okay, because it's totally hot. Atleast it's not Pissilias, amirite?
Meanwhile, the angel world is the absolute worst thing imaginable - humans have to do as they are told! Shock! "But mom, I am too cool for school, fuck you I won't do what you tell me!". Who cares if Ilias knows better what you should be doing (she actually does), we want to be able to make bad choices, fail at life and commit crimes. Damn that Ilias.
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>>181838445
Alice had a noninterference policy because she knew that pushing her authority around wouldn't fix the underlying issue.
>The Monster Lord wasn't murdered
She was still presumed dead before basically pulling off a successful coup against her daughter. If anything, it's more volatile in Paradox because there's no apparent reason to attack humanity.
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>>181838790
So what you're saying is that they were happy to attempt genocide on humans?
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>>181838860
Then why give the humans free will at all if you're going to fucking plan their entire lives out from the get go? it's stupid and both worlds need to be destroyed

>>181837138
Luka may have been scared but he never died feeling pain even when he got his balls sucked out
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>>181838860
I had a feeling that all these blocked messages I was seeing was an argument about this. Glad I blocked it all in advance.
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>>181839150
It's amazing that my joke has triggered you this much
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>>181838269
Man, I love that this sidequest with Ell is very randomly gated behind Queen fucking Alraune, who is likewise gated behind a non-Insect end for Plansect.

Got any idea for why I can't upgrade Vanilla's shop past part 1 stuff? Apparently I need to do that to get Queen Vampire.
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>>181839182
>he didn't want it to happen at all but at least he felt good!
Are you a Muslim by chance?
>>181839273
If a simple sentence is getting triggered to you everywhere must look like tumblr.
>>181839302
You don't need Queen Alraune recruited to do El's quest, you can just talk to her in the World Tree.
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>>181838860
>Then why give the humans free will at all if you're going to fucking plan their entire lives out from the get go? it's stupid and both worlds need to be destroyed
Dude FUCK free will, free will is EVIL! Communism is the best!
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>>181839542
Preach the good word of Ilias, tovarisch!
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>>181839542
Cummunism in ilias world
Slavery in monster world
Choose one
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>>181839302
>who is likewise gated behind a non-Insect end for Plansect.
Why would you even side with Queen Bee in the first place? The reward/effort ratio is entirely stacked in favor of the plants. The insects don't have a proper town or even NPCs to interact with, for that matter.
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>>181838790
>but only when it's something they wanted to do in the first place
That's an extreme assumption to make since paradox didn't show anything that would lead you to believe they would have disobeyed a different order.

>>181838976
>because there's no apparent reason to attack humanity.
Which shows them to be loyal. They didn't have a strong reason to want to directly attack humanity in this universe, much less commit genocide, and wouldn't have done so if they were directly commanded to.
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>>181839542
That's a flawed argument, anon, since communism fails as a philosophy because it can't be applied in real life to the standards it sets. Closest you got is socialism, I suppose.

At any rate, people like you are desperate to spin the idea that even the people who get crapped on in monster world are happy being sex slaves when it's clear that the game is telling you that they're unhappy and only the few, special ones who exceed all the rest are any happy with their situation.
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>>181837110
her neck is almost as long as Saki-chan's *kira~*
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So, is there a way to spring the worm girl from jail since it was Mimi who did the crime?
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>>181838860
>live in angel world
>get sick because knowledge on hygiene is "because Ilias wills it"
>freeze at night because she has forbidden the use of fire
>get zapped because my statue to Ilias was off by a picometer
>get zapped for my daily 10 hour prayers being less enthusiastic than usual
>get sexually tortured by angels for being a pathetic human
>get soul destroyed by Revel
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>>181839950
>they're unhappy and only the few, special ones who exceed all the rest are any happy with their situation
Literally Luddite.
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>>181839829
Completionism!
My 1st (Ilias) run is with the Plants, not because of the plants... but rather so I have Queen Bee as a boss in Hades so I can Milk her (and steal any possible but unlikely panties)!

Run 2 will be Alice and siding with the Insects so I can do the above Milking/Pantystealing against the plants, as well as all the Alice-exclusive things, as well as Lily so I can get Natasha, as well as the Pirates, etc.

Then, at some point before part 3, I'll reset to Ilias and do the mutual plansect route and fight Snek-bird and Cat-taur. But that's in the waaaaay distant future. I'll likely do any new LOC stuff and any other postgame superboss stuff on the Alice run.
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>>181840181
Even Ilias hated Luddite, I don't know why people keep bringing that up as a thing on her side.
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>>181840437
Because they were iliasfags.
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>>181840568
Ilias hated Luddite because they were using her name to opress others.
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>>181840568
They obviously didn't actually care about that shit dude.
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>>181840641
>>181840729
They were antimakina hardliners who moved out of San Ilia. Their stance came from their interpretation of Ilias's teachings. They're followers of Ilias in the same vein that WBC are christians.
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>>181840982
If your own fucking god says that shit isn't how it's supposed to be you don't have any room to say it was in their name.
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Why the fuck is cassandra a loli now?
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>>181841152
someone accidentally ate half her mass
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>>181841152
Because the cake monster ate half of her power
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>>181841083
This is the same Ilias who brainwashed her own angels with "because ilias did it lol" and let humanity unnecessarily starve due to ignorance of fire. She even jailed Promestien for giving it to them. So in a sense, the Luddites are being true to Ilias's teachings. The current Lolilas has evolved her views quite a bit since then.
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>>181841083
>you don't have any room to say it was in their name
So if Ilias says she doesn't like the angel world what would this mean?
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>>181841083
But lolias isn't their god.
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How does a porn game generate this much discussion?
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>>181841783
look at /ksg/
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>>181841456
Yeah I'm sure Ilias's teachings allowed for rape and that it's something she wouldn't hate vehemently because people are giving in to their desires.
>>181841615
Paradox world is functionally the same as the VN world until the Great Disaster, she is their god.
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>>181841783
MGQ is more then just a porn game and i'm not kidding people here are far more interested in the plot then the porn in it
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>>181841250
>>181841309
This is fucking retarded even for MGQ.
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>>181841930
She's not though, Paradox Ilias says this.
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I still haven't heard a reasoning on why human women haven't died out,yet. I mean, they have absolutely nothing to make a man want them over a monster or angel in paradox world or the VN world since IIias is no more and there are even women who stay married with a guy even through he's out banging any monster or angel that asks. Even little kids aren't virgins in this setting going by what some monsters say in Luka's talk command.
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>>181842120
>Even little kids aren't virgins in this setting going by what some monsters say in Luka's talk command.
What?
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>>181842120
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>>181842120
It's not all about physical pleasure
People genuinely want to start a family with their own kind
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>>181841456
>humanity unnecessarily starve due to ignorance of fire.
Then why humanity exists and have houses in the Ilias world if they are dependent of it, you need fire to make houses after all, crearly lolistein has not gave fire to humanity yet.
I think the angels provide what humanity needs, just that in a way where they cannot progress beyond of what they are, probably that would be the reason Lolistein gave them fire, so they could become stronger than god.
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>>181842169
Dark Elf says she loves young people because she gets to corrupt someone with their whole life ahead of them.
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>>181842232
>TT know our shitpost and responded
M-Masaka !
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>Narwhal and other giant monsters can not only be eaten, but are one of the most vulnerable monster types to vore because they have shit status resists

wat

>>181842120
There are 10 times more humans than there are monsters and 100 times more humans than there are angels.
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>>181842270
Is there a world where humans surpassed angels?
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>>181842120
The dick doesn't care, human robot monster angel, they will all get dicked.
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>>181842468
>There are 10 times more humans than there are monsters
There must be almost no monsters than.
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>>181842508
Paradox is the best possible timeline for humanity with Makina, mana, and firearms being readily abundant. Morrigan even says she's surprised that humanity hasn't taken over.
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>>181842713
Wasn't that comment about how we monsters in this era are
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>>181841930
Ilias only specifically forbid fucking monsters though.
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>>181842713
What about a world full of proto humans?
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>>181842930
Protohumans couldn't sustain themselves as a species.
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>>181837138
We also have firsthand experience through Luka that he's so indoctrinated that he avoids contemplating thoughts that contradict his faith and gets shocked by Ilias if he doesn't do what she says.
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What's the meaning behind ゲレゲレ? All I get are some references to DQ, although I don't quite get the connection to Vanilla.
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>>181841984
Im more interested in the porn to be honest
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>>181844445
Because she doesn't have a name so they were deciding a name for her which is the same situation as ゲレゲレ. Also part of the joke is that it's the name you'd give a pet and is pretty shitty for a person
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>>181844860
Personally I think it becomes too repetitive that I start finding Imp's Milking, and Beelzebubs scene hot. Also I have more interests in seeing not Vore, and futa scenes than most characters simply because they're new.
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>>181844445
Vanilla ice cream?
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Why do the angels attack Luka in the snow continent? Are they aware that they are just perverts or do they call Luka a sinner for no good reason?
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>>181847703
They're playing up a type, all the monsters and angels love teasing humans hell one of IIias's top command is a shotacon
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>hyphens tumblr is suspended
why?
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>>181813364

What broken character does Alice get? Morrigan?
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>>181849914
she gets black alice from the past
shes probably the only character in the game that out damaged the grangold king as a spellcaster
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>>181849914
NotBlackAlice
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I want to hold hands and cuddle with this succ
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>>181850228
too bad we'll only see her scenes in 2039
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>>181850228
me too but morrigan's better
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>>181850228
praise shiki
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>>181850228
>not astaroth
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>>181849562
I thought he deleted it
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>>181850787
why tho
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>>181850634
astaroth is ok but lilith is the most soft and comfy
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>>181850228
>he likes titcows
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>>181850994
I like slow passionate sex instead of lightning fast dryfishing
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>Luka has my fetish
My man, hope he gets a good end this go around,too.
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>>181850228
I want to be the succ
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>>181851181
What is the appeal of /ss/ anyway?
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>>181828713

FUCK. I forgot to recruit Chrome before the end of part 1!

I hope I didn't miss a flag.
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>>181850872
Drama
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>>181851654
His fetish isn't /ss/
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>>181828713
Does anything depressing happen if you don't let Radio join? I wanted to see the dailogue in ng+ but I feel that it's way too depressing to not let the poor thing join.
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>>181852196
Yes, she stands and dies with La Croix. Only a complete asshole would refuse a new member to fill out your huge as fuck castle. It's really fun walking around in there with monsters and angels just running around doing normal shit and pretty lewd how they all go "Alright, come to my room" I still can't find the guard guy tho
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>>181852196
I assume you could find her the Admin Tower ruins.
Didn't have the heart to try to find out either.
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>>181852645
The guard is in the same room as the pope, I think all male companions stay there.
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>>181852196
>>181852645
>>181852756
Yeah, she's so damned pitiful that I could never say no.
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>>181852645
I thought La Croix forces you to have her join anyway?
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Does the La Croix scene happen in the IIias route?
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>>181852054
He IS the /ss/.
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>>181844675
I'm disappointed that impregnate doesn't appear more often.
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Greetings heathen scum.
And Greetings to my fellow ilias friends.
Have the followers of goddess ilias prayed for the enslavement and or destruction of all monster kind today? i have and it felt good.
Remember the only good monster is a dead one!
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>>181853580
Inshilias and alhamdulilias brother
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>>181852645
>>181853179
So which one is it?
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>>181851908
What was the drama?
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>>181853939
Im right.
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>>181853939
We don't know because nobody was assholish enough to refuse Croix's last wishes, not even IIias would be that cruel in a situation like that
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>>181854320
>Implying ilias wouldn't execute a traitor.
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>>181854320
Which is why the guy above you looked at the files directly! Turns out La Criox is like "no, she's joining you even if her don't want her too you asshole".
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Does Radio say anything when you meet the La Croix of Paradox's world?
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>>181852954
She doesn't feel emotions
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>>181828713
Radio being comforted by Hild was sadder.
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>>181854273
DEEP
MORAL
CHOICES
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>>181854901
Why?
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What is black Alice end game?
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One thing I ask of ilias, this is what I seek: that I may dwell in the house of ilias all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the ilias and to seek her in her temple
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>>181850393
Maybe if she had bigger tits.
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>>181855303
Because Hild barely understands emotions either. I don't understand why people pick the IIias route when Alice has Nuruko,Hild and better Sonya bantz I feel like it's the true route and the IIias route is just a bonus for people who completed the VN
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Do you think illias herself believes in a higher power?
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>>181855418
To win
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>>181855556
King of going off on a tangent
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>>181855559
Yes the power of humanity to wipe out monsters.
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>>181855556
Wait what does Hild do on Alice's route that she doesn't on Ilias's
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>>181855556
Ilias gives you Michaela which going by the vn, her attack does more damage than quadruple giga, and fucking your relatives is a plus. This is also before part 3 finally diverging the paths which will help us decide which path was better in the end.
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>>181855806
Uptempo singing and dancing
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>>181855303
She was in such obvious denial that even Hild could see it. Hild, someone who's completely fixated on her master, is empathic enough to tell her that she did a good job.
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is there a god mode easy mode or whatever mode
like there was in MGQ1-3 so i don't actually have to plan out my battles and worry about getting raped? or am i stuck actually grinding through the game?
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>>181855556
Alice story and development is already done in the vn
It's illias story now
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>>181856073
Very easy already has you regen health while constantly damage enemies.
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>>181856073
Why play the game?
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>>181856073
On Very Easy you rape the monsters instead.
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>>181856167
It's still a shitty clone of another shitty game called final fantasy.

>>181856291
Because MGQ 1-3 was actually decent.
and i want to at least make Paradox a playable experience with a little pain as possible.
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>>181856073
Achieve CHIM
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>>181856464
>It's still a shitty clone of another shitty game called final fantasy.

Nigga what? Paradox is obviously a combination of Dragon Quest and SMT. And how can you call a game you haven't played shitty?
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>>181856464
ecstasy is that you
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>>181856464
Pain can be good sometimes
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>>181855806
You can't get hild in IIias's route,dumbass.
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>>181856695
But I did
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>>181856464
The series the game is actually a clone of is literally part of the title and you still can't get it right huh
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>>181856464
>final fantasy
no, it's more of Dragon quest, and if say that to the easiest difficulty you must be brain-dead retarded that needs special needs just to breathe. The easiest difficulty is basically god mode.
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>>181856464
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>>181856695
If this is supposed to be an ironic joke or a meme or something I don't get it
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>>181856751
Fine, you can't get Nuruko on IIias's route or Promistien
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>>181856953
You get both of those too though

Still don't get this weird joke
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>>181857071
People like being Alice's slave.
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>>181856790
That's been on my backlog for like
20 years
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>>181856448
>>181856590
>>181856621
>>181856650
>>181856674
>>181856756
>>181856790
Figured it out.
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>>181856464

>and i want to at least make Paradox a playable experience with a little pain as possible.

I've done normal mode on both games and MGQ is exponentially harder than MGQ:P. You can end most boss encounters in 2-3 turns easily. Same can't be said for MGQ
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>>181857451
Not sure if they can even really be compared since the original VN was more of a puzzle game that's basically just about finding the correct combination of moves to win and it's usually a very precise one(and if you're playing on Hard+, hoping the RNG doesn't shit on you and literally make it impossible to win)
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>>181857392
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>>181857071
Now you're lying! caught you,fucker. You can't get Nuruko because if you could Sonya would of been turned back to normal by her instead of using the last bit of her sanity to pull a copy of herself right before the seram and succubsis threw down in front of her!
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>>181857451
>Finds the game easy
>Continues to play on that difficulty
I will never understand this
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>>181857901
Haha you sure got me you rascal you hahaha
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>>181856464
>clone of final fantasy
looks like ecstasy isn't the only person who shits on games before actually playing them.

this isn't even really close to final fantasy other than it was made in RPGmaker and has the same sort of generic jrpg feel to it.
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>Nuruko doesn't unlock the Fairy race in Ilias's route
For what purpose?
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Why does Nuruko save Sonya in Alice's route but not IIias's ? Is it because Sonya actually regained her sense of self there while she didn't in Alice's route? Sonya from seven minutes ago is gonna die or transform into the other route executive form isn't she?
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Why doesn't Chipapa Lucia get a new sprite?
Even Delphinus made a new one for powered up priestess alra
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>>181859014
Both methods are only temporary fixes and the route problem hasn't been solved in that Sonya is still an apoptosis waiting to happen. Whether or not this becomes a problem again down the line, who knows(but I think it probably will!)

The difference is probably just to give each route variation. By part 3 both routes are supposedly going to be very different from each other
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>>181859014
>>181859637
It's going to be worse in Ilias's route, as now there is TWO Sonya's. One who is a copy of another from another dimension, and the real one, who is now permanently an Apoptosis.
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>>181859759
I thought she was a download of Sonya before she saw the monsters and angels going at is rather than one from a different dimension entirely and Alice route Sonya for some reason doesn't remember her time as an Apoptosis at all, whatever the case, Sonya is now a ticking time bomb because even through both of those parties know that their battles with Sonya around will trigger her transformation doesn't mean that they're gonna stop fighting each other, it means they're going to try and eliminate Sonya/protect Sonya when the other party shows up again.
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>>181858153

Force of habit.

I'm definitely cranking it back up to hard when part 2 is translated.
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What does the Chi Pa Pa item even do? Whenever I use it Sylph seems to fly away.
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>>181860932
It's a self-replicating gift that some fairies like
It is also used in golem crafting, apparently
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>>181860932
you need it to repair a guard golem from grangold
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>>181860127
I'm not sure what it is to be honest throughout the game you see the code FXXXXX where XXXXX represents the number of the parallel universe it comes from. At the end of part 2, she says

>F00001におけるF02767断界者とF00793断界者との戦闘行為を禁ずる

F00001 makes sense because we know the Parallel universe is the original so its code name is F00001. The other 2 refer to the monster and angel worlds.

But then later on when she's deleting the 17 minutes she says

>F10325、現時間より遡って17分間を破棄……
>これで、この17分間は世界から削除される……

She suddenly references F10325 here for some reason which doesn't make sense to me because shouldn't this be referring to F00001 instead?

Then when copying Sonya she says it's from F10192.

I don't know if there's a reason for the inconsistency or if trtr is literally just writing random numbers without paying attention to them
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>>181859759
Is she aware she is a copy?
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>>181862109
And why should he ?
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>>181835845
if you're on the ilias route, can you recruit witch black alice? i havent figured out how if you can
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when we do NG+ the bosses unlocked in hades stay there?
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>>181863594
No, Ilias route gets Heinrich instead.
Definitely-Not-Black-Alice is for the Alice route, and I would assume stands in as the travel enabler for alt-Helgondo.

>>181863642
I don't believe so.
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>>181863642
No.
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>>181863594
>witch black alice
No, and you loose out on someone who is arguably better than Heinrich for support.
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>>181863882
>>181863930
All recruited characters even from these routes will remain though. So you can get Black Alice AND Eden, and hope the former doesn't bully the latter!
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>>181863642
I think they do now since I saw Lily and her sister there.
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>>181864243
I hope she bullied her penis
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So, who made Agis I mean Hild for Luka? She wasn't made for combat but for fucking, who liked Luka enough to build him a sexbot? She even has imouto fetish
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>>181864271
Lily has a sister?
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My desire to eat out fernandez butt has not diminished in the slightest within the last 6 months.
I do not think I can endure much longer.
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>>181864370
Lucia isn't her sister? I thought the VN said they had the same parents, raised together or something.
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>>181864791
No, they just lived in the same village
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>>181864791
I don't remember the VN, but in Paradox they were studying the tentacle magic together.
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>>181864431
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>>181865215
small ass!
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Imp is so weak when compared to the VN where she does as much damage as Lilith and Lilim.
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>>181866408
You wanna know how I know you haven't played the VN? I
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>>181866687
I did, but it's been 3 years so I'm only checking damage like Lilith and Lilim doing 27 damage two times by licking your ass while just guarding, and Imp does about 53.
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>>181867139
You wanna know how I know you're lying?
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>>181842232
B-But muh sociology
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Vns are for weeaboos
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>>181864347
When I played the first game it left me the impression that Hild's master could be either Laplace (from some universe in which she was created and met Luka but didnt blow up) or someone related to Marcellus, or someone we never met. I havent played paradox 2 yet though.
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>>181867252
I struggled through RNG in that fight the most out of the entire trilogy. Fucking hell.
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>Arena automatically sets the difficulty to normal
For what purpose?
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>>181868482
I like to think that Luka became a scientist in the future of one world and it's his work.

Obviously Luka as a scientist seems extremely farfetched to imagine so that's why I thought they also went out of their way to show you that he's actually a mathematical genius and thus at least has potential(for foreshadowing)
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>>181868879
Why design a challenging boss if it can just be trivialized by playing on an easy difficulty.
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>>181867252
This is with a single pussy attack.
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>>181869374
DELET THIS
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>>181869374
Luka takes more damage in the latter because he's a siscon.
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>>181868928
I thought it was forshadowing a promestein end
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>>181869374
Oppai loli pussy is the best!
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>>181868928
Jesus fucking christ, I really wish Dargoth had never translated that part of the game. Every time somebody has to mention that part of the game.

Or is that how the world goes, that if I'm able to do fast calculations I have the capabilities to become a scientist? I suppose that if I'm able to read books at fast speed then I also have the qualifications to write a best-seller. That's the logical way to think of course.

Ffs guys, I give him a gold star for not needing a calculator for his inn' finances, but being good at calculations doesn't make you a mathematician.
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>>181869374
Sexual attack negate defense (as shown by Tamamo's fight in the Monster Lord's Castle) and possibly deal % damage based on your full health.
Atleast, that's how I think they work.
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>>181868928
That works I guess, but I think it was just a gag.
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>>181870040
how would you have done it?
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>>181870157
meant for>>181869980
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>>181825623
Great job Cecil Mod Guy
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>>181869980
Calm down dude, it's just a game. Of course genre conventions dictate that Luka is romantically dense as an H-game protagonist, but that doesn't mean he's dumb.
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>>181870425
Yeah, I suppose I just need to take the VNs and the games as examples of his intelligence, instead of assuming he's supposed to be dumb.

Oh wait, it seems that there's nothing indicating that he's a genius except for what you guys are saying about fast calculations, which only proves that he's good at mental calculation. So I guess you are wrong. But hey, it proves that I'm right, that Luka has average intelligence apart from being able to do fast calculations. What a surprise.

Now on a more serious note, if you guys really think that you can be a scientist or mathematician by being fast at doing calculations, you have a wrong view of the world. It does help in some things, but that's all it is, an additional help and not what truly makes someone one.
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>>181870892
>on a more serious note
>proceed to argue against something nobody seriously believes
wew
calm down
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>>181870892
are you off your meds?
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anyone have the guide to part 1 of mgqp? might look up my incomplete save of alice run but its right smack dab in the middle of part 1 and i cant remember what to do
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>>181870892
Is Luka a genius? Probably not. Does he have the potential to be one? Extremely fast mental math calculations make that debatable.
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>>181871026
>>181871225
I AM NOT GAY
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>>181870892
anon kun i think you're taking a game about a fictional half angel rapebait boy a bit too seriously
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>>181870892
Calm yo horses man.

The same scene that has him being good at math also has Ilias saying that he has a 抜群の頭脳 but his talent will probably never come to fruition because of lack of a proper education so it's not like all they tried to tell you was that he's good at math. They literally blatantly say that he has a lot of potential if he were to ever receive an education
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>>181871251
https://pastebin.com/zaNGkJF2
The problem is that loading a save doesn't tell you what you're supposed to be doing, but hopefully you figure it out.
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>>181871346
Am I suppose to believe Luka can become someone like Promestein or La Croix? I do agree that he may contribute in experiments, but more as the one getting experimented.

And btw, the person who sent the lab to the past with Hildr is hinted to be Promestein, before someone says something about that.
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>>181871498
>comparing taking stupid shit too seriously to unironically claiming that shoving (fake) dicks up your butt is straight
lmao
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>>181871251
just talk to amira
she tells you what you gotta do next to advance the plot, then sidequests
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>>181871674
You can just talk to Amira.
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>>181871632
And that's the main thing. No education, which I doubt he has time for even in the worlds that were eaten by Chaos.

And yeah, I really should calm down. It's just that this topic has come out in so many places that I got sick of it, and with that Wikia and a Discord channel that I swore myself to never go again.
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>>181871251
talk to Amira
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>>181871498
>>181871835
Oh hey it's the two people in this thread that never stop bringing that up.
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>>181871685
Promestein is strongly hinted to be involved with the lab but she is not Hild's master.
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>>181872074
There could still be a new character yet to be introduced, which is my theory so far since we're having so many new character in this game.
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>>181871925
How do we fix the wiki?
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>>181840170
>get sick because knowledge on hygiene is "because Ilias wills it"
trtr actually stated that all diseases have been eradicated, though, in relation to an STD question. As for fire, that's obviously not the case given how the Rubiana and Esta people haven't mentioned anything about being forced to live less comfortably.
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>>181872243
From what I've seen it doesn't seem to be a festering bureaucracy with its head up its own ass unlike most wikis.
What's the dark secret?
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>>181842108
She also wants to be a magical girl/idol pair with her daughter. Just think on that.

>>181842120
Love. Duh.
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>>181872243
Either a miracle or tons of money. Pick the easiest way.
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>>181853192
You mean meeting with her in the ruins near the God Bird Shrine? Yeah. Ilias automatically steals a keycard from one of the scientists in the flashback White Rabbit takes you to, which you use to open the door.
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>>181872580
>She also wants to be a magical girl/idol pair with her daughter. Just think on that.
They should have a gang rape scene that involve that.
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>>181872243
Delete it
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>>181872532
Pure autism
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>>181872243
What's wrong with it? It serves its purpose.
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>>181872860
>Ilias automatically steals a keycard
Do her pickpocketing skills know no bounds?
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>>181872243
Tell them to work on Paradox so they can slack more later. If you want to use Wiki for the VN it serves its purpose, and helps advertise the game if someone like me has it appear on google.
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>>181862109
She's copying from a world 17 minutes ago where Sonya didn't transform YET. How is that not obvious? It's a parallel world since its timeline syncs up asynchronously with Paradox World's, like the Rostrum Village one which is, for all intents and purposes, exactly the same as Paradox World. The alt Succubus Village is different, though, since the Tartarus there showed up 500 years early, I believe? The Tartarus pits are a more recent phenomena than that, right? About 30 years back or so?
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What if Luka was a girl?
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>>181872686
Why would money help?
>>181873136
It's horribly outdated. The nipwiki was updated within days of Part 2's release while we're still debating Garf**d.
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>>181873698
Then all monsters/angels need to become futas
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>>181869980
It means he's quick on the uptake, anon, geez. He absorbs information easily. Isn't that the case?
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>>181873698
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>>181873442
Everything in his world is Ilias! That's why the world is Luka's to conquer, as is the right of his lineage!
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>>181874035
I wonder if Doppel Luka will have the same trait while adding sexcraft.
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>>181874170
Guys, it's clear with the advent of Lolistien and La Croix replacing her role that Promestien and the Chimera wont be in Paradox proper. I mean, the only chimera seen are from an alternate timeline...
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>>181873623
No, I didn't think that was obvious. Mainly because since they've shown they can copy from any time and any world they want, I don't see why not just copy from the same world 17 minutes in the past instead of one that just happens to be conveniently running 17 minutes behind in parallel?

Also like I said, the point of that post was to show that she's deleting 17 minutes from a world that's not T00001 which is weird because that throws a wrench into the idea that "since the codename used for the world she copies Sonya from is different, it's a Sonya from a different world" which is really the only thing we can base it on
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>>181874035
I meant the actual girl not just a clone.
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>>181874035
>she's going to have fangasm lines when talking to Heinrich
>she's going to have a futa request scene done by setouchi just like that one BTE
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>>181873623
I think I get it, she didn't steal a Sonya, she cloned one, meaning this clone, once it's purpose is served will either fuse with original Sonya after likely being forced to transform into the holy counterpart to the demon one real Sonya was forced into and eventually having both gives her a new form she IS in control of that hopefully won't look extremely hidious and nightmare fuel inducing, then she and Luka can hace doki doki waku waku sex and Sonya will be overpowered as fuck in that form and it's h scene will be cute, then distrubing vore where she'll spit Luka back out at the end.
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What's the point of the provoke talk skills? Why would you ever want lower affection?
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>>181874514
It's alright if Doppel Luka, and the rest of the part 3 abominations aren't from the Paradox universe, as long as they're in the game, and of course have more than 1 rape scene if they look good.
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>>181874879
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>>181875470
Which form is this?
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>>181875470
is that a sperm
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>>181875470
Jesus her fucking waist.
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>>181874035
I want to take doppel luka on a date.
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LoC when?
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Pick 1 summon you'd want a request scene for. Paradox difficulty: no UN_DO
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>>181878834
Fuck off
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>>181875854
form before she took either gnosis for Sonia Mazda, and Morrigan for Sonia Maynu. Guessign it's her base form as apoptosis
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>>181878834
Goblin girl.
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>>181873698
At least you can dress him up as a girl in Paradox
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>>181880659
noncanon :)
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>>181880759
>Game gives me the option to do so
>It isn't a game over if I do even if I keep him like that forever
>>B-but it's not canon because I don't do it :)
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Could you have a platonic relationship with a monster girl if both of you are single?
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>>181869374
>pussy attack
I can't read this without laughing.
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>>181881117
>>B-but it is canon because I did it :)
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>>181881117
Looks canon to me ;)
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>>181881360
You would get raped immediately.
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>>181881360
Grangold King did become friends with Ant Queen after Luka stopped her.
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>>181881360
I could but only because I'm so fat and ugly
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>>181880659
Wait what
when did that happen?
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>>181881709
Ignore him, he's probably one of those guys who thinks Luka going around the castle begging to be fucked is canon,too
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>>181881360
Maybe if you're children, and maybe if they let you save it for marriage?
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>>181881709
It literally is.
If it's in the realm of possibilities and it doesn't ends the game by doing so, then it's canon, just like my Luka being a Battle Fucker and a Hero at the same time.
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>>181882363
Considering that monsters don't hesitate at all to drain the balls of 80 year old men, I think you're okay.
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>>181883317
That's too bad, because in actual canon Luka absolutely refuses to crossdress and hates the very thought. I'm sure you're the same person who thinks his supergod Luka is canon too, but you don't write the story.
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>>181883403
Those were thirsty as fuck angels though.
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>>181883558
>because in actual canon Luka absolutely refuses to crossdress and hates the very thought.
[citation needed]
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>>181883741
Do the magical girl sidequest and come back and say he looks okay with it.
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>>181883741
He was pretty upset when everyone was pushing him to be a magical girl.
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>>181883741
If he thinks running around in an underwear and cape is perverted, how do you think he'll feel about clothes for the opposite sex?
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>>181883852
No way, even IIais?
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>>181883842
>>181883852
>>181884097
>Equip Luka with a full female set
>He doesn't object or tries to resist
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>>181885132
It would be a programming nightmare to exclude Luka in every class that had skimpy equipment.
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>>181885117
Illias was the first person to suggest that Luka should be the magical girl out of their group.
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>>181885132
Yeah and when I get Shesta to use Supernova she literally blows up a star.
Or when I get Queen Ant to switch to the Arachne race she becomes a spider.
Or when I get Chrome to become a succubus she actually becomes a succubus.
Oh wait gameplay and story aren't the same thing what a surprise.
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>>181885497
>Or when I get Chrome to become a succubus she actually becomes a succubus.
That works lorewise since she is a child succubus.
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>>181885831
she an imp tho
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>>181885831
She's an imp and TRTR specifically says she isn't going to grow anymore.
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>>181885250
Um. Not really. He already can't learn sex techniques.

Different anon here. I don't really care about your stupid argument, but I have to point out how stupid your rebuttal is..
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How do I get Vanilla to give me quests to do her part 2 shop upgrades?
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>>181885883
Her big sister is definitely not an Imp.
>>181885884
>TRTR specifically says she isn't going to grow anymore.
I hope that's just to appease the lolicons.
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>>181885884
>TRTR specifically says she isn't going to grow anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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>>181886147
You have to progress far enough in the game first.
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>>181886097
That hurts my feelings dude.
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>>181883558

>That's too bad, because in actual canon Luka absolutely refuses to crossdress

Since when is male consent a part of this game?
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>>181886253
do you need a hug?
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>>181886249
I'm literally at the Garuda shrine with all 6 orbs... there's only 1 segment of part 2 left. That's quite late in part 2.
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>>181886571
boosh
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>>181886571
Come on, at least Luka's party members don't try to violate him when he's in the castle. In fact, it seems most of them are quite taken with Luka personally.
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>>181886607
A problem on your side, then. Speak with Vanilla to know what next upgrade she needs.
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>>181886607
further!further! you must play the game further!
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>>181886582
Yeah, but from a girl preferably.
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>>181887229
what about a girl(male(female))?
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who wouldnt want a hug from yukimura
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>>181885884
She's not going to grow up because when she gets her new form it'll just be her on a chair with Spi and Rit.
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>>181887587
>implying she's not going to become a zombie like her big sis
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>>181885883
She starts as the imp class in terms of gameplay mainly just because she joins at a point where no monsters join at an upper tier race yet because it's still early in the game.

As far as story goes she is technically already a fully grown succubus and is referred to as a succubus on several occasions
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>>181887414
>>181887483
Don't remind me of that abomination of a story.
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>>181887745
She starts as a level 4 imp and at Level 20. In comparison, all of the other characters you recruit who start at level 20 have their starting race at least at level 9, including Frederika.
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>>181821457
>I love the idea that Luka's rolling around with an actual battalion
they would need a battle hym
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>>181888170
The VN's first entry calls her a succubus and says her sex skills are weak, they lowered the level of her race so she doesn't have the sexcraft skills that a high level imp or succubus has.
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why didnt they love eden
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>>181889628
Because Japan loves the "sweet and caring girl who is bullied but is still sweet and caring" archetype
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>>181890145
That's not true.
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>>181885884
I don't know why he felt the need to point that out when she's been an imp for over a hundred years. It was already clear she stopped aging.
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>>181891096
then how about you give us a better explanation to how such a sweet and cute character has to suffer like this
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It's the shame that the Hero of Justice and Magical Girl classes suck outside of their transformation buffs.

The Justice Kaiser and Witch classes look extremely good though.
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>>181891359
It's not cute or sweet at all. She's not doing it from a place of love, it's not genuine. Her true form reflects the monster within.
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>>181891725
You keep the transform ability after maxing the class.
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>>181893895
huh?
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>>181888591
>they would need a battle hym
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499394504909.webm
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>>181893294
True form? That's actually just Eden combined with Heaven itself. Ilias says she isn't strong enough to do that anymore.

>>181894237
You don't have to stay in the class. Just learn the skills and switch to something else, then you can transform whenever you want.
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what if when we find the paradox, the story goes full 4th wall breaking mode.
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>>181894326
Nice tunes. Makes me think of Luka planning an attack.
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>>181895093
You dont even have to max the class, in part 1 you could just get level 2 hero of justice then use the transformation alongside other buffs to chunk 60k+ with crazy time or whatever.
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>>181895235
Oh and the pipes represent shitposters
not sure what the wooden pallets mean
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>>181895229
>4th wall breaking
We didn't do anything but attempt to help a stupid idiot on his adventure......

Sure some of us decided it was a good idea for him to surrender/loose but im sure some of us didn't do it for the porn.
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>>181895419
The entirety of sacred and profane's fanbase is resting on top of that pallet.
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>>181895345
>You dont even have to max the class, in part 1 you could just get level 2 hero of justice then use the transformation alongside other buffs to chunk 60k+ with crazy time or whatever.

>Not being a completionist
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>>181895235
>edgy attempting to get back in everyone's good graces after being exposed as the grigori of mgq
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>>181895510
Maybe the paradox is that someone thought Delphinus was the best artist.
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>>181895629
What's a grigori?
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>>181895781
maybey it can be a person called paradox
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>Tfw I only wanted a porn game for faps but end up being completely enchanted by the story, and after skimming through this thread I can't wait to get into the paradox games, whatever they are.
I don't have an appropriate face
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>>181895229
Torotoro already said in the Q&A that Paradox isn't going to have any 4th wall breaking twists and that he thinks that they are retarded in general
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>>181895896
guy who would make edgelord stories involving mge, and ask people to do commissions of his violent fantasies,
KC made a twitter post about him at some point
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>>181896062
I felt it work in some of the deadpool comics I read where he breaks the 4th wall but everyone else just thinks he's insane.
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>>181895896
http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:356829
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>>181896248
>mge wikia
can you just give me the clifnotes version?
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>>181896062
But he leaned on the 4th wall a bit when White Rabbit mentions Ilias repeatedly resetting time due to Luka's defeats.
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>>181896248
>stopped reading at the first sentence
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>>181896062
He didn't necessarily say 4th wall breaks but he definitely doesn't like "it was all a dream" or "it was all a simulation" cliches.
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>>181896334
Today would have been a normal day for the Demon Realm, but a soldier from the Death Korps of SHRO had other plans for it. Standing tall with a gas mask and trench coat to cover his flak armor, the Korpsman looked like he was about to invade a toxic waste dump rather than an environmentally friendly paradise.

Armed with his trusty lasgun, the Korpsman made his way to the Demon Realm, his first target. As he approached the outskirts of the town, he could hear the Monster Girls, or 'mamono', talking among themselves in the distance.

"It's the freaky human!" shrieked a Succubus the Korpsman had met earlier.

The Succubus did a gravity defying stunt and remained suspended in the air as she screamed. "Everybody run!"

The mamono working in the fields immediately fled the outskirts and headed straight for the town, surely to seek protection for the remainder of their pitifully short lives.

No time for taking pleasure in the fear he was creating, the Korpsman grasped his lasgun and continued his way forward. The last remnants of the mamono in the fields were fleeing and heading back to what they hoped was safety. One look at the Korpsman's gas mask was enough to send a mamono running in the other direction.

Sent by the Supreme Leader himself, the Korpsman was tasked with the objective of destroying the demon realms population as per the usual policy of the SHRO.

The Supreme Leader of the SHRO also remembered to send the Korpsman to the Demon Realm alone with no backup, thus significantly lowering his chances of survival, but making him more heroic. It was a plan so genius that the Korpsman dared not to question it.
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>>181896486
isn't that how umineko ended?
I remember jp throwing a tantrum a couple years back that made it seem like it was.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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