Final Fantasy General DCXXXIV - /ffg/

Whatever.

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lunie!

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Tifa is here!

Is Zargabaath a GL exclusive? Can't connect to the game right now.

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>>181729270
global exclusive that will go to JP eventually
Yes, they said that.

Just bought the android port of FFIV
Normal or Hard?

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tifa was not a mistake

>>181729383
Is that the DS version?

Normal, because that game is bullshit

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Guys the digital deluxe premium gold edition of FFXV is on sale for 40 eurodollars, is it worth it?
Has anyone here even played it or are you guys still into that gacha trash?

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POST CUTE RK ARTWORK :D

>>181729657
Worst girl in her own game.

>>181729750
XV was an incomplete game, fun but not good

>try to test out Cloud USB soloing Daedalus
>slow, interrupts, stops out of the ass
Why do you gotta be like that

>>181729353
That obviously doesn't make sense, it's either one or the other. You can't have a PS4 exclusive releasing on One.

>>181729856
So it's not out of early access yet? Fuck. I haven't played a FF since XIII-2.

>>181729270
Yes, but Balthier is a JP exclusive

>87 energy
>3/4 raid orbs available
>only 1560 exp left to level up
I have to waste one or the other

>>181730603
>do a vortex to burn energy
>Then use orbs
Easy

>>181730603
Just get mog king low and die. You'll get points and no exp

>>181730837
Vortexes are a waste. A WASTE
and that was the plan

>>181729961
It just needs Episode Ignis and the multiplayer mode released for it to be "complete".

>>181730603
Just TMR grind and then use the raid orbs. If you see that you are going to level up at the next raid orb but still have more left, then you just gotta get Mog King's hp very low and then let him kill you, you will still get the rewards but without the rank xp.

>>181729830
That's not how you spell Yuffie

>>181731164
That's not how you spell Aeris

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>>181731281
who?

Reminder that Zargabaath is going to be Noctis GL 2.0 with mediocre skills compared to his JP counterpart once he Arrives there

>>181732423
how can that happen if he doesn''t even exist in JP you little fagget

>>181732423
>Noctis 2.0
anon that was ariana.
this is noctis 3.0

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>didnt pull cloud meme
Who /notpopularanymore/ here?

Is rasler any good?

Do you think Vaynefag touches... well you know... his little brother?

>>181732989
TMR slave

>>181733084
yes, absolutely

>>181732850
I pulled the USB but I'm sticking with Onion as my RW because I'm far too lazy to equip my RW with proper synergy every time we get a new event.

>>181729662
I will NEVER understand this meme.
I cleared the DS version 3 times in a row because of game+ augments carry-over autism, and it's easy as fuck.

Unironically, what kind of fucking pleb are you to have problem with it? Jesus.

>>181733084
http://www.strawpoll.me/13024331

>>181730916
My stash of giantcrysts sings another tune

>>181733237
Just there to lower ashe rates huh?

>>181732423
Knowing Gumi he'll be Rikku on steroids.

>>181732989
>>181733178
He's not just a TM slave, especially not in GL.
He's the bulkiest motherfucking chainer around. For content that hits retardedly hard, he's our best bet for a chainer that doesn't die when sneezed on.

>>181733459
hey poll anon you posted the /ffg/ waifu one last night?

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>>181733084
Do not comply rude and indecadent things about albanian super-royalty

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>ice is my weakest element
>Jump start boss is Ice weak, resistant to everything else
>Cloud USB comes out
>imperil holy x3 + saint crosses for 36Kx2

>>181734090
this kills the vaynefag

>>181734090
why

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whatcha tmr farming /ffg/?

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>>181734968
Not sure If I should toss 20% mogs on Kefka and be done with it

>>181735539
>farming romadan pistols
I take it you're really into the maid?

>>181735596
I have no other choice anon, I dont really care much about her but she is the Best chainer I have at the moment, and I am THAT Desperate

>Siren 3* has 50% camouflage
does it stack? if I put it on Y'shtola does that mean she will never ever be targeted as long as I have another unit alive?

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>>181734968
nothing special mr. turst

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>>181734968
Can't really farm at the moment, need to either reroot my old phone or get one of those phone link cables so I can use frep again.

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>>181734968

>>181735789
Yes.
It's nothing that crazy, since you only save a materia slot from that. And since ST damage is rarely the one killer.
You'd be a faggot to put an esper like that on Y'shtola, the stats are too good to pass up.

>>181734360
>and then the RW runs out and you still got 80% of the hp bar left

>>181733350
Compared to the rest of the series FF4 DS is extremely hard, that is because FF is a baby easy series

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>>181734968
I don't even have any physical damage dealers that need Quick Assaults but I'm praying one will fall into my lap sooner or later

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>>181734968
Some stuff for Rikku/Garnet. The Soluna is for my Tilith though/

>>181733772
Nah, i just drop the link whenever i see vayne mentioned cause i bookmarked it

>>181736076
>Farming Cid's TMR

>>181732850
I got fucking 0 with Squall BSB2 today.
Do you guys want another Cloud USB in the sea of Cloud USBs or should I keep Squall?

>>181736154
No, it was quite dead after four saint crosses, and an OSB hit. Anyways, you get two RW charges.
Are you mentally handicapped?

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>>181736290
>farming fucking KELSUS
my sides are in the alternate version of /ffg/ now

>>181736737
Is this nigga serious?

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>>181734968
So glad I pulled Lulu off that 5* EX ticket. 1k MAG on Sakura soon.

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Jesus christ the control on the Prompto snowmobile minigame is utter garbage, how the fuck did they OK this shit? Not to mention the shooting mechanics are stiff as hell and make even Dead Souls seem decent.

>>181736425
Before I even started TM farming he was already at 20% from all the events, mog kings and raids I bring him to so I decided to farm it anyways.

>>181736789
I don't think he knows

>>181737046
What a waste.

>>181737046
Cid's tmr is useless. You should farm something else.

>>181737043
wtf why is he doing the white power sign?

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>>181736789
>>181737126
well excuuuuuuuuse me princessess, please enlight me

>>181737043
you are supposed to upgrade it which is why it's wonky by default

>>181737260
>he doesn't know about the Analyze glitch
lmao@urlife

>>181737046
I also kinda want cid's tm just to have but it doesnt really turn anyone into a good attacker. Rikku's tm is much more worth it cause it turns anyone into a good support. Great on your cecil so he's up to par with his buddy wol

>>181737409
can you be more specific? my google-fu isn't strong enough

>>181734958
It's like one out of the million ones featuring baltier or gabranth.

>>181736817
who do you expidition with?

>>181737771
He's memeing you. The value is in the passive lb gain, with is highly valued on units like rikku or garnet(afrer bahamut gets released). Four jack tms and one kelsus tm means you generating 10 lb points a turn meaning rikku is close to making the team invincible

>>181734090
Vaynefriend is albanian ? Explains a lot !

>>181737987
She's not close to making the team invincible if you sacrifice all that bulk for LB generation, if that's what you're implying.

Remember again that reraise does not apply at the end of an enemy's turn, but whenever it kills you.
You have to be able to survive the remeaining attacks to get it off again the next turn.

Not so threadly reminder that you can send your arena team out on GL expeditions and still use them for arena. Those amelias and exdeaths are safe to get you relics

>>181737949
Right now, three Chizurus and two Raslers. Have gotten about 2.5% since they introduced explorations. Not much but it's something.

>>181738231
This is why leveling her lb isnt that big a meme. Constant big def/spr buffs are no joke. Easy to do if you already got jack/kelsus tms or equip spear

>>181736584
post team and proof

Have they fixed the drop rate for raid coins yet?

>>181738693
later tonight after maintenance

>>181738527
Leveling her LB still isn't a meme, I did it in literally two days and still have two leftover king burst pots now.
It's worthwhile for when your other buffers have downtime and because you always always use it.
Eve when ramza comes in, being able to fall back on Rikku's buffs means you can break MAG/ATK with him every 3 turns.

Focusing on LB-gen passives, however, is a meme. A meme with some uses, but not a standard kit.

>>181738693
lol

>>181738486
Since I've been working on the event it's still nice. is 12 hours the best bang for your buck?

So what do I do with all these vision shards that's just collecting dust in my inventory? I already have kelsius and if I ever bother awakening him, I still have like 200 something shards left.

>>181738609
Cecil + double holy boost equipment + 30% RM, Beatrix for the three imperils, Ramza chant + shout
It's not very hard anonymous. If the boss has 450000 HP, and Saint Cross deals 36Kx2, four times, and an OSB hits for 99999, then that means only 70K HP needs to be dealt from other sources, which is easily obtainable from the Beatrix BSB+command casts as well as Ramza's breaks.

I'm not going to boot up my game and take a screen cap to talk to a retard.

>>181739191
get a second kelsus and fart both tmrs

>>181739328
>jumpstart bahamut has 450k hp
hmmm........ :thinking:

anyone can give me tips on spherimorph?

>>181738742
No, her standard is 4 of jack/kelsus tm. So she can lb at least once per two turns. Any more is hoping for lb drops to do it each turn

>>181739610
They are referring to the XII FT battle IICR, which is weak to ice.

>>181739610
>Bahamut
He isn't weak to Ice you idiot. Did you assume I was talking about Bahamut the entire time? I was talking about the XII Jump Start. The original post specifically stated an ice weakness.

I beat Bahamut Jump Start with Sephiroth BSB1 and Cloud USB RW + Luneth BSB.

>>181739610
Based fucking retard.

>>181739820
Oh, I assumed bahamut because why would anyone have trouble with a d220 in the first place. First I've heard of somone having trouble with Tyrant though so conrgats

>>181738749
why lol?

>>181740017
No, they haven't. Should be fixed after maintenance tonight

>>181739651
Did he get fixed yet? If not, you need someone to imperil on the same turn as your chainers. Else, bring a nonelemental dps. He's a chump with rikku's nullall

>>181739984
Never once said I had trouble; the original post said Ice is my weakest element, but I ignored that and smashed it with an element it isn't weak against and that Cloud USB is a lot of fun.
Stop being retarded retard.

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free pull

any good?

Final Fantasy Tactics is shit

>>181740121
>smashed it with an element it isn't weak against
So you did nothing special...?

>>181740108
my main dps is a DW tidus (Apocalypse+Blood Sword) I planned to bring a second tidus for quick hit chain memes, the rest of my team is rikku, chizuru, wol and tilith, what else I must know?

>>181740274
Sounds like you dont have a blade mastery yet. Its one of the priority tms after dualwield

>>181740274
if you have base 5* chainers, no
if you don't have base 5* chainers fuck yes
her tmr is godly, start farming it NAO

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>>181740506
I have two 5* rebertas

also finally just picked this up

>>181740121
kek wait so you posted about a fight you had no trouble with using a strategy that takes no skill against a boss that poses no difficulty and you are confused when you attract shitposters?

>>181740747
to be honest I dunno who the bigger retard is

>>181740379
His only other attacks other than elemental ones are gravity style percent attacks. Unless you got a way to imperil, that friend tidus isnt doing damage. I can drop my brotherhood for save the queen for you if you want but i managed to do it easily with a orlandu spamming northswain strike before finding out about the bug, so he's pretty manageable even with bad setups

>>181740579
First or second kelsus? There's a meme combo with two kelsus and rebertas

>>181738906
>is 12 hours the best bang for your buck?
Probably. That's what I've been doing at least.

I'm just in it for the esper exp at this point.

>>181739661
None of that fucking matters if she's sitting on 4k HP and 150 DEF/SPR you dumb ape.
With her override fist and Eccentrick you need but 4 crystals to hit her. That's inevitable, especially over two turns.

You don't even need to reapply her LB every other turn anyway, only every 3 turns unless something goes wrong.

>>181741045
>not aiming for perfect rikku
kk

>>181741005
first unfortunately, i didn't start replaying after not playing for a year until like a few weeks ago

>>181741161
This is the perfect rikku nignog.
Your rikku is an inferior squishsponge.

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>>181734968
>whatcha tmr farming /ffg/?
Dodge memes.

>>181741180
Doesnt matter then, its not the best strategy, just nice to have. Its still doable with a 5 star kelsus and friend kelsus if there ever is a need for it, which there's likely not

>>181740880
my tilith has Imperil thanks to Shiva, thanks pal, and yeah any help with that fucker will be amazing

>>181741005
t. someone who watched a video about Aranea and mistakenly assumed the same thing applies to Reberta

A hint, it doesn't

>>181739661
That's retarded. You're making her like 40% as strong as she should be to make her use a limit that essentially gives the team 80% more EHP. If you need Rikku's LB in order to survive a battle, then glass meme Rikku is just going to get double-killed.

Between Eccentric, Double Overdrive, and her passive LB gain, just reroll the turn if you don't get what you need.

>>181741005
It's better to just spark chain two Rebertas, the additive modifier is something retarded like 8000%

>>181741005
Wait, I thought we could only get ONE

>>181741203
>>181741598
>just cheat to win
ok

Is Ashe any good? I could always raise more qt units

>>181741938
Faggot I'm not even the one advocating for s/l. My rikku still gets her LB off faster than yours, because your rikku is fucking dead.

>>181742032
Ashe is the only mage you ever truly need.
She's also one of the only units that can heal the team and deal damage at the same time.

In short, pull two or you'll regret it come bloody moon.

>>181742049
>your rikku is fucking dead, kiddo
Kek

best exploration to farm buttlerflies for the weapons?
Pro?
Already got Override, but wouldn't mind having the other 2 in stock

>>181742178
>She's also one of the only units that can heal the team and deal damage at the same time.
>tfw one of your oc designs for the contest is going to be a white mage that hits the enemy to heal their team

>>181742245
I just adv if you want megacryst. I do pro because the mobs are easy.

>>181742049
>i dont have macros: the post

>>181742481
Macros do not give you 2k extra HP and 200 extra DEF/SPR.

>>181742538
>rikku survives
>rest of the team is dead cause no lb
>b-but s/l

>>181742178
But I have Fryevia, I've got nothing to worry about.

>>181742759
With your setup rikku doesn't survive at all, so it's
>rikku dies
>rest of the team is dead cause no lb

At least the bulk setup has a chance. Yours has zero chance to ever work.
And I never said you need to s/l.

>>181741045
>4k HP and 150 DEF/SPR
Really?!!

Right Hand: Survival Edges +32ATK+10%HP+Wind Element
Left Hand: Army Shield +40DEF+20SPR+20%Lightning
Head: Crown of Justice +25DEF+20SPR
Body: Tabby Suit +30DEF+20SPR+10%HP/MP+100%Poison
Accessory 1: Soluna Ring +30MP+15%Light/Dark
Accessory 2: Prodigy's Goggles +15DEF/SPR+Analyze/High Power
Ability 1: HP +20% +20%HP
Pot Stats: HP: 450 MP: 75 ATK: 30 DEF: 30 MAG: 30 SPR: 30
Esper: Carbuncle HP:3200 MP:5700 ATK:1800 DEF:3200 MAG:4300 SPR:6000
Total Stats: HP: 6417 MP: 369 ATK: 256 DEF: 297 MAG: 191 SPR: 290

Calculator doesn't have Ignorance and Mog Rise, so treat it like she has them. With this setup, lb will be ready every 2nd turn after 1st activation (if maxed you have one of best offensive buffs in game), solves her lack of refresh, meaning that Rikku's cycle is Synthesis>LB>NullAll>LB. High Tide setups are shitty IMO if your team has only 1 useful LB. If it were 2 OKs, Ayaka and Roy then go for Eccentrick build. Seriously, Pouch is good on paper but in a properly build teams you don't need it because:
there are units with healing esunaga
ailments barely work on hard trials
eccentrick truly shines with multiple lb focused units.

>>181742890
You do actually. Pure magic or bust soon

>>181742907
Nigger do you ever pay attention to what you type?
We're talking about 4jack TM 1kelsus TM build.
Not whatever the fuck build you just posted.

And also
>not running override on LB centric setup
oh shit nigger what the FUCK are you doing

>>181742905
>lb
>rikku survives
So hard

I just started the GBA version of FFV. I just learned there's a PC version. Should I continue on GBA or startover on the PC?

It's super comfy so far, and I just got to Carwen and found a Frost Rod.

>>181743075
>itt: man fights against world about no lb rikku builds

>>181743109
No, GBA is the superior port. But feel free to use the SNES sound patch in the pastebin up there. It makes the experience perfect.

>>181743083
Except when rikku dies she doesn't get to pull off her LB in the first place, you dumb nigger. Even if she does get revived at 80% of her 4000 unbuffed HP, the boss just kills her with his next hit before she can take another turn (meaning she dies anyway).

Reraise is not a solution to bulk, you still need bulk.

>>181743238
>It makes the experience perfect.
The sound patch doesn't fix the fact that the GBA has terrible audio, it's most definitely not "perfect."

>>181743198
>guys the 4jack 1kelsus rikku build is the best ever
>this completely different bulky build PROVES that

>>181743346
As perfect as it can be, then. The patch also fixes a number of slowdown bugs that are present in the GBA port for...whatever reason.

>>181743427
>Slowdown

I actually was wondering about that. Seems really laggy considering my computer is pretty good.

>>181741387
Its a pretty weak imperil so dont really on it. I just got home so here's my no element tidus for the trial.
818 470 865

>>181743516
Yeah that was present on the cart too. No one really knows why but chances are it had something to do with optimization. As mentioned it also has some sound bugs that were just flat out unfixable but the patch does it's best to alleviate that.

>>181743386
Ok anon, you can use your build. Must be nice to have a rikku that doesnt need to lb. you'll topple the meta yet!

>>181744103
Your build is closer to my build than it is to your build faggot.

>>181744164
>thinking he's fighting against one guy

>>181744370
Okay anon, you can use your build. Must be nice to have a rikku that doesn't need to be alive for even one turn.

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>>181744459

>>181744459
Thanks! It is nice, cause reraise kicks in.

>>181744720
Reraise only works on the first hit of an attack, are you dumb or something?
As soon as she gets reraised, she'll die right over again before she even gets the chance to use her LB again, let alone survive two turns to make it there.

i still havent pulled a luneth in ffbe
lost count of rerolls
kill me

>>181744886
dont give up

>>181744649
>less than 5000 HP @ ~200 DEF/SPR
You sure showed how bulky that build is, anon.
I don't think there's a single enemy in the game that could kill such a tank!

>>181744886
Just keep rerolling. I got one on my alt that hit 900atk

If you have chainers then you dont need any increase lb stuff on Riku

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>>181745039
3 days of reroll
i just wanna get back to playing ff3 but i dont wanna miss this chance to pull luneth

>>181744995
I for one support no lb rikku! Hate dual wields!

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Clouds USB was the finisher to kill jenova with finishing touch 99999 dmg break

how long do I have to wait for the raid orb attempts to refresh?

>>181745250
Nobody said bulky rikku is no-lb rikku.
Bulky rikku is just not going full retard by farming 4 jack TMs and one kelsus TM.

Anything that isn't that is infinitely less retarded than that.

>>181745342
1 hour per orb, same as arena orbs.

>>181745375
There really isn't a reason to get all that lb. You severely gimp her for no effective gain. She does way more work if she can stay alive and synthesis

>>181744995
That's just what I have without farming for her.

>anon recommends build to another anon
>FUCK YOU ITS SHIT
>another anon posts his preferred build
>FUCK YOU ITS SHIT
>discussion about the best balance about builds
>FUUUUUUCK YOU ITS SHIT
Spirit of /ffg/ alive and well

>>181745662
>That's just what I have without farming for her.
Then what is the fucking point of posting it in the current discussion.
>hey guys, I see you're arguing about full retard LB build vs bulk
>let me post MY rikku that's neither bulky nor LB centric

>>181745901
Be more butthurt please.

>>181745982
>I'll just interject into the conversation with completely irrelevant bullshit
>you mad lol

Who cares about Rikku.
Reminder that if you didn't get Tillith, you need to uninstall BE!

>>181746189
>He fell for the Tilith meme
lol
Just run 3 Rikku

Half the people arguing don't even have Rikku. Never listen to /ffg/ for advice. We're all fucking challenged

>>181746369
>he doesn't run 7 rikku for maximum uptime

>>181746474
4 rikku, tillith, tillith friend

rikku's sprite is pretty ugly

>>181746607
>>181746474
>>181746369
>you lose anyway because reraises don't stack and bosses have more than one move per turn to kill unbuffed units from 80%

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>>181746728
5 Nines

>wake up
>Didn't exchange my 10K crimson ore
WHAT THE FUCK GUMI, you usually close the exchange before main, FUCK YOU
GREAT ANNIVERSARY, AND THE ANNIVERSARY GACHA IS GARBAGE TOO

>>181747153
>tfw had 100k crimson ore leftover
>tfw turned it in ontime last night because I thought maint was yesterday

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>>181744649
Why not go for both bulky and lb? Empty slots are for ignorance and mog's wisdom

should I r2 omega drive r1 affliction break or r1 omega drive r2 affliction break? Limited by power crystals

>[Rod] Holy Rod +10 ATK +53 MAG +15% MP Light Element
GET READY FOR ACELANDU, LADS

>>181747339
That's the plan. There are so many limit crystals flying around that going full LB is overkill

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Absolute state of this dude's makeup application for "Cloud", what the fuck

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>>181734968
I don't TMR farm yet. So I just threw 5 shitters that I'll never use into my expedition team. I haven't even put much thought into who I put in there either.
Might replace Kefka though, I don't really want a Ribbon all THAT much.

>>181747465
>nigs
gross

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>>181747941

>>181747339
That's all I've been saying this whole time.
It's not like bulky means you CAN'T have any LB at all.
With this setup, she only needs 3 crystals to get LB under eccentric.

But the extra ignorance is a waste. She needs 3 crystals each turn with or without it because of rounding. That's too small of a benefit for your efforts, and you could give her status immunity in its place.

>>181732850
I pulled twice. Got shitty Mog Dance, Clouds BSB1 and Zack's wind Chain.

my wind team (and default damage team) WAS Luneth BSB, Alph BSB and Fang Imperil with OK for boost and Catslut healing. But I'm considering changing it to Luneth, Fang, Cloud and Zack and Catslut. Going to use Zack for boost and give up Hastaga to rely entirely on BSBs for haste. Almost tempted to pull again for new Cloud shit but would it be better just to RW it. I'm considering RW it instead

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Is Elmdore ugly too?

>>181748317
Celia and Lede are if you smack them around enough.

>>181747405
>Almost done awakening Ace

Just need 6 support heavicrysts to thet extra mag+ more lb charge

>>181748136
>backpedalling
Nice to have shown you the truth still need more jack tms though

>>181748136
The ignorance and the goggles, I mean. Even with 4 passive crystals a turn, she needs 3 enemy crystals on the first turn to get it because it always rounds up.
It's pretty much impossible for her to not get those 3 anyway, and it only starts improving your odds after a few turns.

>>181729101
July Update for FFXI is out http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52835

New stuff includes it's normal monthly updates. Plus a new post-game side quest for Seekers of Adoulin.

>>181748490
Is your LB max level though?
Or at least LV 20 before 6* awakening?

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>>181748317
It's a case-by-case situation

>>181748587
nope, I throwed all lb pots on Rikku

>>181748519
Literally reread the thread.
The argument starts when some monstrously retarded faggot claims that
>her standard is 4 of jack/kelsus tm

Which is incredibly wrong.
Also, do some math. 4 passive crystals won't impact how many enemy crystals she needs right out the gate after popping an LB, so it offers no more uptime. Since your odds of not getting 3 crystals after 2 turns are effectively 0%. So it provides no benefit.

>>181747405
>only need one more heavycryst to fully awaken Ace
>Ashe is right around the corner
>both of them work together incredibly well

MAGE META IS OFFICIALLY NOT DEAD

>>181747371
Omega Drive R2.
Affliction Break is one of my greatest regrets after Northern Cross R2.
AB is a luxury that you can work around with S/L.
OD is really good in realms where you are lacking good SBs.
If you don't care about CMs, I guess AB makes more sense.
If you do CMs absolutely hone OD.

>>181748776
>effectively zero
S/Loader mentality

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THAT'S MY SECOND FUCKING NOCTIS

GIVE ME MY LUNETH

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/6lcrvw/king_mog_already_rolled_over_to_new_event/

Exchange your currency as you get it, procrastinating shitters

>>181748956
AB is a godsend in Multiplayer

>>181748776
>standard not 4 jacks
Must be nice to be a pleb

>>181748683
You dun fucked up then
Big time

>>181749121
just s/l in multiplayer too you retard

>>181749194
Not really, mog spear means everyone can lb farm now. You do have your dual wield and equip spear from your fifty fangs right?

>>181748961
Try and not get 3 (three) crystals on a unit after two turns and get back to me with your results.
It isn't worth sacrificing bulk for fringe 99.99% statistical anomalies anyway. Even if it is theoretically possible (I'd like to see you try though).

4 passive crystals provides effectively no benefit to uptime. With Eccentrick, she has 450% passive boost, which is still 3 crystals even if you knock her needed crystals down to 12. (it always rounds up, if it isn't less than or equal to 2 it's 3).
So it only benefits her on turn 2 by removing ONE crystal from her requirement (8 divided by 5.5 still rounds to 2).
You save one enemy crystal drop on turn 2 without LB under this build. ONE.

>>181749429
You don't need any TMs. Just macro a Bartz entrust steup.

>>181749589
this is relevant to my interests, please enlight me on this

>>181749429
>You do have your dual wield and equip spear from your fifty fangs right?
No, but I have four Jack TMs
And also, my first Ace's LB is 20 so I was able to awaken him

I am working on equip spear though, but that's for Setzer

>>181749457
Basically what I'm saying is, if you math this out, Ignorance and Kelsus's Goggles reduce the requirement from 6 crystals over two turns to 5 crystals over two turns in cases where you don't already have a full gauge.

You could slap a ribbon and rasler's TM in place of that if you wanted. Even if you believe in getting statistically fucked over, the benefits don't outweigh the costs.

>>181749054
alternatively; don't be retarded and wait too long

>>181749121
It feels like placebo when I see slows and the like still going through.
Omega Drive is still a better use of power crysts, shit's futureproof

>>181749457
>chain
>all crystals go to tilith
>s-spirit stat tho...

>>181749121
It's a luxury. It is useful, but not necessary.

>>181749747
>not waiting until just before maint to buy the cactuars so you can level your daily pull faster

>>181749457
>do my work for me

>>181749843
But having 1 ignorance and 1 Prodigy Goggles only reduces this by HALF a crystal each turn on average because of the shitty way it rounds.
The 50% passive boost from moogle's TM is worth more than 4 passive crystals.

Without them, it's 6 crysts over 2 turns, with them it's 5.
Without them, it's 3 crysts over 1 turn, with them it's 3.
Does that sound like a tangible boost to you?

>>181749987
Burden of proof is on you that you can get that monumentally fucked over by RNG.

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>people getting this autistic over BE when it's an easy game

>>181749827
Is OD actually better than FC? They do similar things for similar damage, so why should I pay 6* crystals for it?

6* Vaan any good? I have 3 of his cuckboi ass

>>181750394
Omega Drive is much better, yes. And it's going to be buffed even further in the future, which is silly.

>>181750537
>tfw not making or honing OD because I want to get on the Bartz meme wagon with Snowstorm Strike

>>181750157
I should say without them, it's 3 crysts over 2 turns, with them it's 2 instead.
But it doesn't change the idea behind it. You either need a lot of passive crystals or no passive crystals, such a small amount provides no noticeable benefit.

>>181748587
Why before 6* awakening?

>>181750157
>still relying on lb drops
>i can make the lb crystal go where i want it
Nice wall of text but you are still sidestepping. You will come across turns with no lb drops, and you will whiff the rikku lb. im sorry your reddit build isnt accepted

>>181749683
Bartz is the only entrust unit who can normally equip spears.
Give him the moogle spear and entrust his LB gauge over whenever it's full.

This works best with a 4* bartz, since he requires the fewest crystals to get an LB gauge while still knowing entrust.
He needs a source of MP recovery too, but otherwise it's entirely the same.

>>181749827
RNG is RNG - even with our group equipped with moderate & major KO resistance, and with Affliction Break freshly applied, MP Gil still KO'd people here or there. In the case of AoE battles with status shit (FFII Black Knights, XII Mandragoras), AB is not as effective. Multiple sources of Astra/status blink helps much more in those cases; although shit hitting in between status blinks happens occasionally too. That's just how it goes.
Speaking of, I thought Astra would've made AB obsolete. However, they both work well with one another (and relic/RD resistance, of course).

>>181750394
The long cast time for Full Charge can be detrimental if the character has no access to Powerchain or similar effects on soul breaks/burst commands. 600+ speed bosses are a thing too

>>181750874
how much time does it takes to fully level a LB?

>>181750606
I hope you are just saving the crystals rather than honing it ahead of time then, since you'd want to make sure you can actually draw the relics.

>>181750979
You get ONE lb exp for each time you use said lb, so make the math of how bullshit it is

>>181751027
I am indeed saving them; same with the 5* motes. It'd be tragic to invest and get blown out. It'll make me a little weaker for a while, but that's okay.

Did that massive rebalancing of abilities take place in JP yet? If so, are there any specific details on multiplier changes and whatnot?

>>181750835
>all math is leddit now
4 crystals per turn isn't going to save you from that either spergburglar.
Rikku needs to rely on LB drops if you aren't going full madman retard build, and even then it's only 50% uptime.

The uptime is not noticeably impacted by having 4 passive crystals, if you actually read the math you would know this.
Even on turn 3, it's the difference between TWO fucking enemy crystsals over 3 turns.

If your uptime is that low that 1 in 4 turns is enough for you, then you can hardly call your build LB centric. And you need to reevaluate your approach to a fight.

>>181750979
With the burst pots expeditions, ive been going up a level every day or two. Its usually 50/50 chance of success so rng will tilt on you

>>181750979
Many multiple maintenances, and that's with an even faster method.
But because you can run it during maintenance (hey, there's one tonight), you don't lose anything. There's nothing better to do with that time.

>>181751321
Or
>lb every 1-2 turns
>win

Im sorry for your lack of tm macros anon

>>181751293
Not yet

>>181751490
>you can even grind when the game is down
Jesus Christ, you BE guys squeeze every ounce of progression you can out of that game.

>>181751608
Except you gain no more chance of getting LB every one turn, and only a single crystal's worth of chance on turn 2.
So the same greentext applies you dumb mathless ape.

And I have defensive macros in their place, I'm sorry you fell for some dumb meme.

I just noticed that Balthier is in the announcement page as one of the demonstration screen shots. I know we're not getting him this event but it made me laugh how it wasn't even changed from the JP version.

>>181748136
That's a good point on the status immunity should i drop Arsha's for a ribbon and slot in another hill digger/hp 30% in place of the 2nd ignorance?

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i cracked since the banner actually has a lot of wind and I have no wind sbs. This is ok.

>>181751890
I would drop prodigy goggles for ribbon, honestly.
You would only start to see the benefit of the goggles after 3 turns without a full gauge. And it would only be a single crystal cut off your quota.

And don't farm hill digger unless you have a shitload of dupes you're fusing, Rasler is right around the corner.

>>181751760
Lol, ok. You dropped alot of copy/pasted reddit math but you are still the one running a subpar rikku. Didnt pull enough jacks?

Reminder that if we get the Man of the Hour lucky, Cloud USB will be included in it.
Secondary reminder, if you get the USB but would still like the BSB2 or the CSB for Zack, you can wait like 4 weeks for the DoC event where both come back on the same banner.

>>181752137
Ledditors are the main proponents of the LB meme rikku, you dumb faggot. It's why all you idiots thought you should farm 4 jack TMs for the future.

Also, not an argument. Come back when you can mathfag like a real /ffg/shitter.

>>181752038
I'm sitting on 6 guys i might as well grind out 3 diggers if anything to have some extra 30% hps for when we get 10 mans, I'd rather finish up my goggles since kelsus is at 80% I can totally drop an Ignorance though since Jack is at 10% and i can throw another digger on the burner

Is it worth pulling for Zargabaath if you're a f2p with 18k lapis saved and with rikku?

>>181752496
We don't know what Zargabaath is like until tonight's maintenance.

>>181752496
He's literally better than enhanced ramza PULL WITH ALL YOUR LAPIS

>>181752496
No one knows yet, he is not in the JP game, that said every global exclsuive unit as of late ends up broken as fuck, so yes maybe it is

I'm personally saving for Cloud, or maybe Onion Knight

>>181752282
>No, im not reddit. Ur reddit
Your math is weak cause you still rely on rng rates in your favor. What more is there to say other than having consistency over your retard no lb build?

>>181752496
He seems alright but you should probably wait till the maintenance before you decide anything to see. It's a good banner though regardless.

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>Dread Behemoth
>Every attack downs my entire level 108 party
>The hitbox for his roar attack will occasionally blow through the absolute invulnerability granted by Overwhelm and other tech skills
>Safety Bit does nothing, apparently it's not instant kill
>Ultimate magic heals it
>It resists Libra
>It resists damage from Armiger
>It has millions of HP

Who the fuck is designing these timed quests? If I didn't have 99 megalixers and megaphoenixes it would be impossible.

finally got my first Brotherhood!, now I just need to beat the Dark Espers and Gilgamesh to make my Tidus above average, by the way which accesories are good for him? I give him two dominion rings but i'm not sure if theyre the best for now (currently faring 2 Bracers)

>>181752698
With only 4 crystals per turn, you are already at the mercy of RNG to get a full gauge in a reasonable time.
My math shows you just how much you reduce the RNG factor.

It isn't even a measurable reduction. You need one less crystal over two turns. ONE. The other two are still just as RNG.
And that's only IF you don't already have a full build.
Even the retarded 4jack 1kelsus faggot had a more coherent idea in mind than you.

>>181750835
This, anon doesn't realize that Aigaion only generates lb crystals from his main body only, and I bet that everyone will go for arms first with no crysts dropped.
Also, Ignorance/Kelsus tmr generate 2 LB CRYSTALS PER TURN, so with 3 Ignorance+Prodigy Goggles or 4 Ignorances, you get 8 CRYSTALS at the END of your turn. So if you survive first 2 turns, she'll have her LB at max on your 3rd turn, without relying on chain units. Also, upon activating LB, you again get 8 crystals at the end of turn, so you're already half way there with next reraise. But it seems he only cares about his 100% Moogle'd Pouch, which is as I explained not that good if Rikku is the only LB reliant unit in your team. He thinks he can manipulate crystals to only come at Rikku. I also posted 6.5k HP, 300DEF/SPR build and if you still keep dying after being reraised, then you didn't guard/activated threshold/didn't mitigate.

>>181752932
Domination Rings*

>>181750449
Please respond

>>181752981
>not 4 jack tms for 1-2 turn lbs
Embarassing

>>181752694
hm i see.

i think i will prob have one 10+1 pull and see if i can savage any bonus unit for the MK event

cloud, onion knight or dark veritas should take months tho :/

>itt: angry anon mad his "do nothing" rikku isnt upvoted
Truly is summer banner

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I picked BE back up and got Minfilia from the XIV raid but never looked too hard at her. Figured I need a Support at some point, is she a good one?

>>181753547
if you aren't using WoL/Rikku/Tillith just stop playing

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>>181753547
yes

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>>181753643
>WoL
Got one of those too but I already had Garland at 5*. Which is better?

>>181753162
He's okay. Budget chainer with a decent TMR. I'd say keep them separate for the event since he's a bonus unit and then fuse them afterwards.

>>181753892
WoL is the best tank in the game, Garland is pretty meh.

>>181749054
>>181749747
Or even better. Look at the date in the damn in-game announcement when it appears and keep it in mind.

>>181753547
Her 70% elemental resist buffs can trivialize a LOT of fights. Other than that she's not that great (unless your damage comes ENTIRELY from a single whale friend or something), but she's worth having around either way.

>>181753892
>Garland and WoL serve two different roles, Garland is mediocre right now but enchancements make him usable in the future, WoL is the Best tank in the game

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>>181753971
But can WoL knock you all down?

>>181753175
And this returns us back to square one.
You either need to go full retard and damn survivability in order to try and boost survivability (which is as retarded as it sounds).
Or you don't be a retarded parrot ape who's mad he wasted time on five useless tmrs. All because some dumb JPledditors told you that it was important a few months ago.

Half measures do nothing but lower RNG a tiny fractional amount. Use your head and use math

>>181749054
Ah fuck, now what'll I do with my _356__ Ore???

>>181753710

YES NO, MAYBE. I DON'T NOW

>>181754201
>use math
Ok, 450% times 0 lb crystals equal dead party. Play again?

>>181749054
b-but my mog cakes will be useful in the future again r-right?

>>181752282
How would you know what ledditors are suggesting you fucking fake? Tired of all these"double agents" who think they're cute but are just faggots

>>181754201
Your post is all over the place. I have no idea what you're advocating. You say full survivability is retarded. You say full TMR gain is retarded. And you say half-measures are retarded.

Are you trying to say that Rikku just sucks?

>>181754519
>yfw it was "tilith is bad" anon all along

>>181753190
Onion Knight should be here in like 1 month

Cloud is a wild card though, they could push a FF7 event with other FF7 unit at any time due to 2017 being the 20th anniversary of the game, but probably won't

>>181750830
Because it takes less uses

If you level up LB until max awakening then you're fucking up massively

>>181752170
but what if I have BSB 2 and Zack's CSB and want his USB????

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>>181754589
>people actually listened to the falaeflagger and didn't pull for Tilith

>>181754638
meh, I don't relly to much on lb's. except for Rikku and sometimes Minfilia, and in some cases Y'sthola+Golem have saved my ass though

>>181754403
Nigga that isn't even how it works.
You're implying percent boosts impact passive crystals now.

She is just as likely to get her LB off on turn 1 with 4 passive crystals as she is with 0. That's math. She needs 3 in either case, rounding is a bitch.
The passives do LITERALLY nothing.

>>181754519
I have never said full survivability is retarded, learn to read champ.
I'm saying that, mathematically, one jack and one kelsus does nothing for you.
And that 4 jack 1 kelsus is a dumb idea.

>>181754857
You're fucking up then
period

>>181750830
When you awaken, the amount of exp needed for each level goes up. This is why people recommend lb leveling a spare unawakened cecil while you use another one
>>181754857
Most units dont have lbs worth caring about, but there are units that need them like maxed like tidus.

>>181733084
>>181733237
I am not a degenerate.
And the indirect implication regarding the True Hero is both incorrect and unappreciated.

>>181733459
(You)

>>181734090
Do not imply lewd, baseless and completely incorrect things regarding the True Hero, and do not post things that do so.

>>181754980
Oh no, he's gone retarded

what are the best ATK non-event non-tmr accessories right now?

>>181754980
>You either need to go full retard and damn survivability in order to try and boost survivability (which is as retarded as it sounds).
You really need to re-read your posts before you submit them. You're lucky that I got ANYTHING from the train wreck of over-repeated words and conflicting double meanings that you taped together with spittle. You can hardly blame me interpreting "damn" as an adjective when the alternative makes even LESS sense.

>>181755186
Enlighten me with your math that shows how 4 passive crystals actually do ANYTHING to help your turn 1 uptime.

You have to use big boy arguments, anon. Memes are not an argument, only math is.

>>181755306
Trial, ifrit's claw from dark espers

>>181754804
Why people even listen to these donut haters anymore?
People didn't pull for Ling
>Ling ends up being the best debuffer and mp battery for a long time
People didn't pull for Fryeva
>Ends up being fucking broken with chaining
People didn't pull for Olive
>Ends up being the top heavy hitter for some time
etc etc etc
Granted, you shouldn't pursue 5* without knowing what they do beforehand, so I'll give them that
And Tillith banned had absolute bullshit rates so there's that to, I got extremely lucky with her, in the banner last year, this year I throwed everyticket and pulled daily just for a chance for Elza and not a single banner unit appeared
>>181755080
Ah I see, welp already too late I'll manage my lb pots better now I guess, I used to throw them all at CoD before actually caring enough about mechanics

>>181755309
What that anon meant by "damn survivability to boost survivability" was ignore defensive boosts to go all out on LB boosts, with the intent to "boost survivability" by getting more LBs off.
Made sense to me tbqh.

>>181755464
not him but how hard is this event?
Gil's still kicks my ass so I haven't tried anything after that

>>181755309
>damn /dam/
>verb
>(in Christian belief) be condemned by God to suffer eternal punishment in hell.
>condemn, especially by the public expression of disapproval
Aww, look at little ESLanon go!

>>181755410
You first
>eccentrik
>get no crystals
Still sidestepping arguements?

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>>181747000

>>181755710
If you can't beat Gilg then you certainly can't beat dark espers

>going to have to halt TM farming for Mog King AGAIN
FUCKING MOG

Can you get over 3* units with friend points?

>>181755806
>get 4 crystals passively
>still need 3 to get your LB off anyway, same as if you had 0
Wow I sure am glad I sacrificed HP, DEF, SPR, status immunity, and even Dodge just so I could be in literally the same situation.
Not to mention the time spent farming those TMs.

>tfw rolling when i shouldn't be
I hate be for taunting me with units i can't have.

>>181755982
>Not to mention the time spent farming those TMs.
>this shitter didn't farm them in the first place to level other character's LBs

>>181756245
Who's sidestepping arguments now?

are the events for laswell's purple lightning timed or will it always be there? might do it some time but can't yet

>>181755982
>smart players: lb consistently every two turns
>summer redditors: "pls rng, gib crystals, why no micro transactions for lb drops REEEEEEEE"

>>181756349
Always there forever, I'm also stuck leveling thme due to materials and had to check, so don't worry

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the fuck just happened? I full breaked Ifrit and had elemental resistance up with tilith, and after chaining both tidus I pretty much killed ifrit next turn ifrid was going to die and a dispel had siren's name on it plus the elemental resistance from rikku

>>181756372
If you need to lb constantly maybe you should improve your equipment and materia. Not dying is the key to most of the better rewards for those fight.

>>181756245
>>181756317
Half the thread is you guys arguing whether or not LB equipment/materia is good on ruck sack. How about dropping those notions and agreeing ATK chain Rikku is best build?

>this stupid Rikku argument is still going
>>181756484
>I full break'd ifrit

What's the most logical/best use of NRG dumping once you get to higher ranks? I have 146 NRG max so just leveling ranks at this point seems pointless. No event right now to dump NRG into and timber tracks is shit compared to just getting cactuars during events

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>>181755841

>>181756552
any pointers then? as far as I knoew ifrit can deal way more damage than siren

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>The Omega raid in XIV

>>181756564
>TMR macroing is a thing
>People unironically asking this question
You should also consider refreshing whenever you run out of NRG

>>181756689
Start the battle dispelling both of them; then arms eraser. If you lower Ifrit's defenses he goes berserk. Only lower his defenses if you can ohko him.

>>181756548
Hell if i know, im pretty sure og 4 jack rikki poster is gone already. I just took over to see how long no lb rikku anon would go for.

>>181756484
why arent you using two chizurus and two setzers?

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>One week of getting nothing but Tech Giancrysts when i need Power

>>181756732
It costs me ~7,000 lapis to fully TMR a team, I don't feel like losing that much, and no point in dumping NRG into TMR without refills. TMR is either go all in or don't bother until your ready to go all in

>>181756726
Omega is basically holding a DBZ style World Tournament and it's fantastic.

>check out my no re-raise rikku build, if i jerk off rngjesus juuust right, i can lb after my team is dead!

>>181756564
Farm trust? Like duh

>>181756982
You don't need to refresh to TMR grind. I just said that because you're above the threshold in which I deem it worthwhile. Also, 5 TMRs is definitely better than roughly 10+1 pull and a half.

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Fucking Wrecked the 300 difficulty with my new wind team. RWed clouds USB and then hit him with Luneth and Cloud Bsb for 30-35k x8. Fang was even doing 8k x4 with skyhigh. I kinda like Zacks CSB paired with wind imperil and a nice RW Cloud USB

Wall did run out at the end though.

>>181756789
ok, who more dangerous? Siren or Ifrit? If I manage to survive two turns I can pretty much kill Ifrit and set up my elemental defense among other things