Dota 2 General - /d2g/

>OG on the lower bracket in TI
LMAO

First for terrorblade is the best hero

direct invite

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>>181701826
STRONGEST AGI CARRY

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>OG

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>(O)ne Strat (G)amers without their One Strat

OUT OF MY WAY, I HAVE TO GET TO LAST PLACE

>notail doing what chappie does in pubs

dOGshit

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>GENOCIDE

>>181702082
OY

Is notail the worst "pro" player in the scene?

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>when NoTail actually has to do something
>fails miserably

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>big shitter no real valve events

This is going to be the epic super long range low risk initiation meme patch

remember back when OG practically never lost a 5 man teamfight?

I'm barely watching this tourney...is this burnout or are the teams just shit?
Or maybe it's both

>OG disbands after TI
Is there a better timeline?

>>181702247
TI is coming

>>181702293
Yeah but I'm talking about this tourney that's happening rn

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>check esports
>honeylans playing meepo who is technically a illusion hero
you can't make this shit up

>all these buttblasted americans
must suck that they are winning valve events and have no major character flaws huh.

OG has never lost a valve event they entered as the favorite. always underestimated. they literally picked arc warden and meepo into a 7 stun lineup, they don't need another target on their backs.

n0tail fly and s4 will be the most successful players in the history of dota, beyond any contention.

>>181702250
u were saying?

>>181702364
t. flys gf

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>>181702364
win a TI before you talk

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>>181702364

>ana is the problem on OG

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>>181702364
do I have to remind you?

>>181702414
>one teamfight won
>winning
lmao

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reminder that dota 2 is dead why play a game that actually makes you upset

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>>181702364
.

>give meepo to anyone that's not singsing
>lose

>pick happy time man
>buy damage item
>win
wow would've thought?

Did Mirana get buffed ?

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>shart4

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>>181702761
are vlads into blink damage items

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>NoTail doesn't get carried
>dies over and over

as a euro keker i hope liquid and shitrekt a least perform good this ti

og is so fucking garbage :(

>1/9/4

>>181702761
I'm so fucking sick of Damageless Void

>>181702514
is this mobile legend?
all of my dota friends are playing this game now, fucking shitters

>6k damage

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HONEYLANS LITERALLY THE LOWEST DAMAGE ON HIS ENTIRE TEAM AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Hey, can anyone link me a thread or a video that goes over siltbreaker and gives me a quick summary, so I know what to do and some strategies. Thanks.

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mfw EG's biggest opponent OG loses to rice farmers

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>NoLans only got 6k damage

>>181703010
It's 25 pounds of pussy and ass: Lua edition

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>>181702187
this is so dumb it made me giggle

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what is happening to OG?

>>181703079
b-b-but API KEYS

>>181703136
maut are you ok

>>181703136
theyre pretending to be bad so retards wont prepare for them.

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>>181703245

>>181702364
>OG has never lost a valve event they entered as the favorite
TI 6?

>>181703380
Even year doesnt count

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SOMEONE BUILT VOID CARRY CORRECTLY!
EVERYBODY CELEBRATE
Also
>OG jews can sometimes shit on westerners with their one autistic cheese strat when the patch favors them, and almost always lose to slavs, chinks, and of course, the strongest race
>still widely respected and invited to all events and favored to win even though their only wins are majors and the occasional memeleague when cash is low
Has there been a more reddit team, ever? TI3-4 Alliance are contenders, as well as EU Fnatic and C9

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>>181701758
yalls some goofy ass niggers
>yo game dead
>yo stream dead
>yo gen dead
>yo brain dead

switch over to a real game

>>181703198
i dont know what that means

>>181703509
TI3 alliance is still goat

>>181703509
That iceblast and chrono combo is actually pretty sick. I hope Liquid steals this strat.

How to AM?

>>181704478
It's been used forever, even competitively you plebian

Why does everyone think China dota is such a snorefest? There are 30% more kills/min in China compared to Western Europe, 22% more than US, 14% more than SEA, and 8% more than CIS

Do people think it's still 2012?

>>181704758
yep, everyone thinks its a ricefest when in reality chinks throw so much

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Episode 2 of OG's true sight is gunna be pretty bad compared to the first one.

"Well, yeah we won the major and then lost almost every game afterwards" - Fly

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>TI soon
>EG showing strats.
>OG calculating everyones picks and bans.

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>Realise theres dota happening
>Check and find that OG are 0-2
What happened?

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>>181704893
BEEP BEEP

OUT OF MY WAY I NEED TO GET TO LAST PLACE
Now edited to be more meme friendly

>go offlane
>buy pms
>win lane
defend this dotards

>>181704980
"saving strats" doesnt exist

what strats did Wings save? nothing, they could pick anything and win because they were better than everyone

>career mid Super
>Invoker chosen
>misses sunstrike in chrono
christ almighty

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CARRY DOOM

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>>181705231
You're talking to a 4 time Major winner.

He knows what he's doing.

>>181704834
speaking of chink throws
>VG

>internet company decides to fuck up right in time for esports
>have to watch games using a phone hotspot
FUCK

>>181705292
>Super on any hero not named DK or DP
why are you so surprised?

>>181705371
>tfw I will be in transit for the next 30 hours and I won't be able to watch streams

>>181704758
Chinese dota used to be the opposite

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>OG choking at a LAN for the third time in a row
I doubt they would make it past group stages in TI7

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What team will Gustav go to after OG come 12th at TI?

>SUPER

>>181705543
Secret
Puppan will kick MP and replace him with Midone as Pos 1 while Gustav plays pos 2 yet again

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I got bored so I did this xD

>>181705493
yeah but it's not been that way for at least 2.5 years

This Jew/Lumi/Merlini cast is super comfy

>>181705543
new team sweden
2. s4
3. zai
4/5. pieliedie & egm or akke (idk which)

can't think of a good pos 1 swede

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>>181705767

>>181705767
Excalibur

lmao wtf just happened

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When do the GOOD teams play?

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What happened to that female player that was playing with Xiao8?

>>181705946
sick chainfrosts and +150 damage

>>181705010
>>>181705880
Lmfao

>>181705767
Chessie?, tho he got his back problems, that swedish herbal acupuncture doesn't seem to be yielding any results

>Another boring chink LAN

That Peru LAN with Alliance and Team Spirit will be more interesting thatn this shit

>>181705703
This is legit tier 1 team desu

>>181706047
Got sick of being the irl cm (aka slut) of the team

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>>181705718
I got bored so I drew this.

Fix OG
Hard mode:u cant kick N0tail

>losing to clutch
LMAO

>>181706168
Really though
I was going to cheer for my girl(boy) hao, but he's not here
Literally the only players I respect in the whole tournament are fy, s4, zai, and Burning
At least r0tk looks like he has the makings of a decent coach, lanm as well

>>181706415
Disband

>>181706415
Disband
N0brain and Fitjew go irrelevant
s4 goes to a swedestack
ana goes to china
Jerax replaces Kuro becuase Kuro is now the coach of Liquid

>>181706415
that's pretty much the only way to do it honestly
all the other players are amazing except ana when he tilts

>>181706415
1. ??? No good euro carries
2. Miracle
3. s4
4. n0tail
5. fly

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>>181706626
>1. ??? No good euro carries

SAY MY NAME

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3293780668

Was there no salvaging this game for Dire? I was Disruptor and it felt the game only lasted that long because my aghs ult was that deadly but it felt like I am only prolonging the inevitable

>>181706042
EG faces the chinese menace Soon™

>>181706823
SVG has shown how much coaching can help a team
Honestly, if things continue like this, my money's on them just for their consistent ability to beat VP

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>Suddenly MDL is a super important tournament because OG are 0-2.

d2g is fucking pathetic and the hate boner they have for them, Fuck all of you.

is LGD the best chinese team?

>>181706941
Honestly I just dislike N0tail

>>181706941
do you think fly is the bottom in this relationship

>>181706941
>Honestly I just dislike N0tail
this

>>181706776
>2k game with morphling and tinker
yeah you were fucked honestly

>>181706914
VP always chokes when it matters, they're never winning TI

the grand finals is going to be EG vs Liquid

Why do we hate notail again? At least he conveys a lot of emotion especially in the booth. I don't like OG as a team - they're just boring to watch but notails a pretty decent dude. Burger here btw

>>181706776
your cores got counterpicked so yes there was no salvaging it.

>>181707084
A mix of contrarianism, him being an underwhelming carry and in general forcing his team to have a boring play style

>>181706941
MDL had always been an important tournament, it's just a bit less important just because TI invites were locked before it
I just hope all OGfags can agree that TI is all that matters so that when OG inevitably chokes and loses to either VP, TNC, EG, or LGD/FY and they inevitably disband again they can all commit ritual mass suicide

TI7 POWER RANKINGS: MDL EDITION (May undergo changes)
OG BTFO TO TIER 3
>The GOOD Teams
Liquid
EG
VP
>API Key Tier
LGD
LFY
>Tier 1
Newbee
TNC
Secret
>Tier 2
DC
IG
NP
Planet Dog
Fnatic
Empire
>Tier 3
XctN
IG.V
OG (Due to recent events)
>SA Tier
Infamous

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>>181707084
euro here

i don't individually hate anyone on OG they seem like great guys honestly, but as a team, as OG, i always root for them to lose

>>181706415
>Fix OG
Oh that's easy-
>Hard mode:u cant kick N0tail
Welp, I can't think of anything

>>181706941
the LAN before TI is always super important, see Wings before TI6

>>181706981
of course, they have api key

>>181707084
Two separate reasons.

BigShitty backstabbed long time teammates and continues to throw team members under the bus when he thinks itll improve his chances (when he's the shitter)
OG continues to be weighted down by his anchor-hood since the only reason BackStabby is on the team is because he is Fly's boipussi

>>181707316
>plays support for years
>barely manages to win 30k in prize money
>switches to carry role and wins 4 valve tournaments and millions of dollary doos
>often picked as favorites to win big prizepool tournies

Can notail rly be that bad? He even replaced half his team and they still won as much money/valve tournies as before

>>181706409
you should get bored more often

>>181707060
>first VP was considered a bad team that can only win honeypots like Summit
>then they're considered a bad team in a region of bad teams who probably can't qualify for any majors
>then they're considered a bad team who chokes all the time
>now they're considered an ok tier 2 team who choke in finals
when in reality they're a solid tier 1 team who have an excellent chance to take the aegis this year
It's either them or EG, only other contender is Liquid

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>Kuro is one of the only three people who made it to every single TI
>Still hasn't won any
Is it his year?

this game ever gonna start?
>>181707302
thanks reddit

>>181707084
>Worse carry than Loda
>A burden on every team he is on
>Thinks he's hot shit since Valve sucks his dick and won 4 Majors
>Backstabs every teammate that isn't fitjew

>OG

Is there any reason why OG keeps choking on TIs but win in Majors?

>>181707723
>Backstabs every teammate that isn't fitjew
He literally did on secret though

>backstabber
I don't know why you people make such a big deal out of people getting kicked
This is a game worth millions (read: life changing money) and if you don't have a winning team then it's absolutely the right choice to remove people so you can have the best chance of winning

>>181707769
just standard yuro's choking on the only event that matters since ti4

Don't worry bros. Our Guys know it, even if they get second last place at TI, saving the strategies was worth it. This follows from the simple fact that the difference in total price pool between this Honeypot and TI is so large. The pricepool in this tournament is just pathetically low, the tournament only has value for Our Guys as a tool of deception against other teams.

>Kotlguy
>Jack
>Godz
Comfy

>>181707774
>Backstabs one of the chosen people
No wonder the faggot hasnt won a TI yet

>>181707604
i only know he pretty gud at io

>>181707774
>tfw Fly used to play offlane

was he even good? i remember he played timbersaw 1 game and that's it

>>181707723
Don't forget n0brain is also a HoNtrash

>>181708031
No, which is why they dropped him
The original secret was four support players who were sick of supporting + gustav

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>Arteezy has a weeb avatar.
>Uni has MY BOY KENDRICK.
HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

>>181707937
Aside from bulldog, had there every been a jewish TI winner? Loda, Akke and EGM all look really swedish but s4 is a little questionable?
That's a nice feat, considering the prevalence of yids in the scene

so Maybe is dota Lebron

Maybe runs CN dota confirmed

>>181702514
>finally leaves dota
>still posts
you are the lowest kind of cancer.

>>181701758
as spectre, what should I build lategame against a jugg? I just lost a game w/her vs. a team of jugg/PA/sky/lion/storm and I'm pissed.

WARNING PUGNA BEING PICK

/ourloli/ picked

FORE

OUR LOLI PICKED

OG will win TI, 10 more majors and ppl will still think notail is shit

>>181708464
AND THE DIGITS FOR THE CHAOS RIDER

>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
>PUGNA PICKED
PUGNA PICKED
could EG possibly be any more /ourguys/?

>>181708465
>>181708464
You stole my post
If only I hadn't faltered with captcha

i think eg wins

MID PUGNA

OH FUCK, SKELETONS!

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>puck support again

how does arteezy just walk straight to him?

wtf.

>sufail
every game lmao

This BabyRage spam is amazing

how honeypotting is this 5 puck?

V
I
C
T
O
R
I
A

>>181708973
It worked against a tier 5 SEA team

>>181708973
they're trying to see how bad the best chinese team is

>this ck build

>no stun ck
????????????????????????????

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>>181709037
it wasn't my guy
r-right

What is worse, CK with no stun or Illidan no breath fire DK

who the fuck is somnus? where's my nigga Maybe?

>>181709182
somnus is maybe

this is the stupidest pro dota game ive seen in a while

>CHYNA

>SHArTOOOOOOuR

>its another "lets bully sumail early game and he dominates mid-late game" episode
when will they fucking learn?

octarine pugna legit?

>>181709610
does succ get spell lifesteal?

>>181709615
I think so. more nether blast for buildings and double heal from succ. boost push and farm. they have artour to be a heavy hitter on heros and CC enough that sumail can just spam the towers, ideally

>>181709685
yes, so you get 25% off the lifesteal

>>181709610
i hope u realize how useless pugna is vs bkb and silences

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>eg has become the prime example of a honeypot team

How did this happen? I'm blaming this on sh1t

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>making sure Sumail doesn't have a good game
>give him a gimmick hero against opponents that aren't SA or SEA...
we all know how this goes

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I tried to come up with balanced groups for TI. What do you guys think?

>>181709791
lifedrain pierces bkb no?

>>181709853
swap np with emipre or fnatic and it's probably as balanced as it;s going to get

>if captain sh1t can win the draft

>>181709853
How is Group A balanced in any single way.

Fuck off.

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>>181709912

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>last big lan before TI
>it's a chinese timezone epsiode

>>181709886
Only for allies, isnt it?

>>181709886
It deals no damage therefore you don't get healed

>>181709853
Scratch that, I noticed I put all SEA teams in Group B, that's not how it works
>>181709893
I guess swapping Empire with Fnatic is the best choice

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>>181710001
>can't watch in dotatv

it's time.

>>181710001
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_Final_Match_2017

xd

anyone else struggling to be interested in pro dota still?

CLASSIC LGD THROW

apologize

A
G
O
D

No one armlet toggles like Artour Babaev does

zai glimmer cape mvp

wew

nice laguna maybe lol

>>181709853
>Balanced groups
>Not mostly random draw

Group A:
2 NA
2 EU
1 CIS
3 CN
1 SEA

Group B:
1 SA
1 NA
1 CIS
2 EU
2 CN
2 SEA

>>181710127
these are literally all tier 3 and below teams

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BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES

need good build for dazzle.
gib pls

>>181710127
>Literally only 1 TI team
>It's the SA one

>RTZ with the god plays but universe and sufail feeding
wtf is this timeline

>rtz gets glimmered by teammates
>chinks still throw every single spell and ultimate while he's resisting nearly all mgc dmg
>omg rtz is so good xDD

...

>>181709853
not wanting to get in group B to luck out against excretement and washed up MVP so at least you make lower bracket cutoff

>>181710216
medallion phase drums solar crest

>>181709853
>>181709893
>>181709931
>>181710038
>>181710185
by balanced he means neither group is clearly easier you fucking retards

???????????

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>puck support
>"haHahA we can be like VP too guise!!! ahAhah xDdxD"

>pooniverse literally throwing the game
lul

WHAT IS UNIVERSE DOING

>>181710306
it was going linkens that did it
I was gonna shitpost that he was an idiot for doing it just as the fight started

U-GOD

>eg

XAXAXAXA HOLY SHIT EG SO BAD

lc throwing

report

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>the gulag of EG.

That was a pub dive right there

>it's a lifestealer loses to an illusion carry episode

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>It's another episode of sleeper op CK gets play
>But he also goes for the suboptimal build

>>181710351
>>181709853
also I think these are actually really good anon.. I'm proud of u

>>181710351
B is absolutely clearly easier than A you fucking autistic ape

alright Uni's getting too old

>>181710426
t-thanks

>>181710127
lol at Alliance being reduced to playing this

>EG
EG
>EG
EG
>EG

LITERALLY COULD HAVE SMOKED INTO ROSH

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post em

>let's see what the pros are doing this pat-
>support puck
Hello?

>>181710484
>haven't played for ages, have 10-15 commends or so
>start playing again, play maybe 30 games total in the last few weeks
>suddenly have ~38 commends
i don't know what's happening

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Time to put the U-dog down

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>>181710484
you beg for commends or some shit?

>>181710531
it was an attempt to win middle vs lina with pugna that failed miserably

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Anyone blaming Universe or Sumail is retarded
This is all on cr1t doing one of the shittest drafts imaginable

>USA

>>181710484
i had 0-15-0 a few days ago

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POST EM FOURS

>EG is a tier one team
only in AMERIFAT

>>181710405
Cant show his true power level

good to know that EG isn't a honeypot team. they would never draft shit like Pugna or Brewmaster in matches that mattered

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> pick pugna
> lose
uuuh

>>181710405
what's the optimal build then

>lost to a 0-4-4-1 ck

amerisharts?

>>181710580
unvierse playing like shit didn't help them in an already bad position tho. Reminder that LC is supposed to be one of his comfort heroes in recent lans, atleast sumail can say he was playing a fucking trash hero.

>>181710612
Is anyone else tired of this whole "le proper because monocle + tea and a top hat" meme?
Literally 9fag tier

>>181710545
The commends statistic on your profile is bugged, every commend counts as four commends for some reason

>>181710438
what do you mean by this?
Group A:
T1 teams: EG, Newbee
T2 teams: OG, Secret, LFY
T 3 teams: iG.V
T 4 teams: Empire, DC
T 5 teams: Infamous

Group B: T1 teams: VP, Liquid, LGD
T2 teams: TNC, NP
T3 teams: iG, Fnatic
T4 teams: none
T5 teams: Planet Dog, Execration

Seems quite balanced

>>181710763
>eg newbee
>t1
yes hello try again

>>181710719
You understand it's not a meme? It's a genuine 100 year old stereotype?

>>181710763
>T1 teams: EG, newbee
>T2 teams: OG

this is already a trash bound post


LGD is tier 2
NP is tier 3
fnatic is tier 4

IG.v would be tier 2 in group b, LFY probably tier 1 in group b

the absolute trash teams are in group b, it's much much easier than A

>>181710691
>tfw noone will roll a 4 ever

>vp goofs around at TS, picking w/e they want and win
>eg "goof" around and look

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>tfw my mmr grind secret pick CK is now exposed

>>181709853
Rules
3 GOOD Teams
4 Mid Tier Teams
2 Shit Teams

>Group A
EG
TNC
Newbee
LFY
NP
Empire
Planet Dog
IG.V
Infamous

>Group B
Liquid
VP
Secret
DC
LGD
IG
Fnatic
OG
XctN

>>181710926
There's more to being "proper" than sticking your pinky out while drinking a beverage

Chinese greatness
>>181710932
>>181710763
Hmm

A:
T1: EG OG
T2: Newbee iG.v
T3: Empire LFY DC Secret
Tshite: Infamous

B:
T1: Liquid LGD TNC VP
T2: NP iG
T3: fnatic
Better than SA: PDog, Xctn

Group B looks way harder.

>>181711029
>EG and VP in separate groups
Grand finals will be hell entertaining, no matter what

>>181710763
Too High
>OG
>T2
>IG.V
>T3
Too Low
>DC
>T4
>TNC
>T2
>IG
>T3
>Planet Dog
>T5

>>181711096
>lfy
>tier 3
>secret
>tier 3
>tnc
>tier 1
>NP
>tier 2

2 shit tier teams in Pdog and xctn is still easier than 1 shit team in infamous

What went wrong with EG?

holy fuck all these rankings are fucking terrible, thank god d2g isn't in charge of invites

>>181711235
they thought they were actually good rather than living in the shadow of ppd's EG style.

then got exposed

>>181711029
Swap Newbee and Secret
Too many EU teams at B

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>>181711249
>mfw i correctly predicted all the invites and all but 2 qualifiers

>>181711335
who's winning TI then friendio : ^ )

>>181711235
rtz is useless, crit is useless. Kick them for actually good players the team will improve. I'd take svg over crit.
>>181711435
Either tnc or lgd

>>181706415
You can't fix what ain't broken. GOAT team, 4 Valve major events.

2x Eagles
1x Staff
1x Axe

Aegis coming soon.

>>181711497
>LGD
>Odd year
TNC it is then
I love their aggrevise style + force staff maneuvers

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>>181707302
>trusting leddit rumours
GTFO reddit thrash.

>>181706415
>>181711584
>you cant fix whats not broken
OG are problematic. Need to increase their hero pool at carry and mid. And no more arc warden or visage.

>>181711235
erm what?
they lose this game bcuz crit shitty draft?

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For me this is the most balanced groupstage

glimmer cape duration needs to be reduced to 3 seconds

>more CK
nice

cHAOS
KNIGHT
FOUR

when will western teams start playing Tide? love that guy

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what should i buy from the gabencoins i accumulated from selling summer cards
oWo

>>181710562
i never ask for commends I just play support

usually its the shitstain jungler's who ask for commends even though they didn't accomplish anything all game

>Viper for Super
was DK/DP banned?

>>181712028
He and CK were secret OP for mmr gainz but not anymore.

>>181712036
a different game

>>181711862
Group A
>LIQUIDWINSLOL
>IG.V and OG aka FREEWINSLOL
>Planet Dog might actually make it in high brackets so thats a plus
Group B
>Higher brackets are locked from the get go (EG, VP, TNC, and DC___)
>Actual competition outside of Infamous
>LFY can't API key out of this bracket since the teams here have huge as fuck hero pool (EG,VP, and Secret) or can do two or more specific thing too well (TNC, IG, and DC)

Daily reminder that the reason that all conventional pos1 players not named ramzes have been looking like shit for the past year is because the patches and meta have heavily disfavored carry play in favor of pos2 and roaming style pos4
Self sufficient carries who don't need much for an acceptable laning phase have exclusively been meta ever since TI6, and arguably up to and during that event
We've seen fucking trilane mid over giving the carry anything, aggro trilane on offline is practically standard laning presence at this point
All that we've seen are Lifestealer, pos1 Bristeback, sometimes Necrophos or juggernaut, occasional timbersaw and the only specific """""strat""""" was illusion push via terrorblade, luna, alchemist and naga
Seriously though, the only different strategies I've seen attempted more than once by a team are
>semi 4p1 Husker from Secret
>Ursa timing based pushes from VP
>Drow strat from EG
>API key from Ruru?
after every single game,one sees talented players like rtz, burning, matumba, or mason or whoever else get flamed for being a washed up shitter when their role just doesn't have the presence it used to have
tldr put carry heroes back in the play making role and rtz wins ti

>>181712081
CKs still gud as long as you max W first and take advantage of your super strong laning phase.
Kind of shid against very tanky or very agressive dual lanes if your lane support is weak, but against anything else laning against a CK with more than a single point in Rift becomes a very spooky affair, 50 mana cost 500 range pull that sets you up for at least 3 right clicks + whatever other spells for just 50 mana

Who is casting LFY vs Newbee? I feel some homosexual waves coming from my monitor

>>181712249
nah, maybe Id swap secret or TNC, I tried to make it region balanced too + splitting iG and LGD lineups. However planet dog and infamous are the worst teams at TI imo. And strongest team out of qualifiers is Secret

>>181712349
john connor, chink lover and jack

>tfw VP will win and the circle will be complete

>>181712387
XctN and Infamous are the worst teams in TI mang
Planet Dog hasn't had any LANs yet, lets see howthey perform at the group stages so we can determine if they're shit
I'm a flip and I can admit that XctN is a shit team without Gabbi and Abed

>>181712283
shadow looked great during wings' run though

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Name a more iconic quartet , I'll wait

>>181712627
why is Lacoste doing thigns? His English skills are Tobi tier

>>181712562
I watch a lot of SEA and while Fnatic's run was pretty unprecedented, I still think XCTN are above them and can surprise IG.V as well as DC

is mdl a honeypot

>>181712662
his English skills are a selling point, didn't you learn anything from 2009-2014 Lumi?

>>181712562
Im not flip man Im not biased, but looking at SEA qualis they were able to beat faceless, clutchgamers or mineski

>>181712627
>3 out of 4 are boring as fug
the chink was great at DAC but other than that you have shit taste

>>181712691
No. Literally no tournaments are honeypots or teams wouldn't go to them

>losing to low skill Super

?

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>>181712662

>>181712460
Honestly, this is an ending I'm happy with
Dota can die off in pro scene, with majors completely dominating, TI sticking to ~35 million prize pool with valve taking less of a share every year to compensate due fewer compendium purchases, and inhouse leagues becoming popular worldwide with the largest non valve tournaments being product sponsor based, I.e. zotac cups, redbull tournaments, etc
If that was the dota scene I'd be very happy

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sorry I missed quite a few match I just woke up
how is /our guys/ doing

>>181712627
Jack and Grant are the only two worth listening to here

>>181712723
wow it's 2017 you stupid faggot
stop being a racist pig

>>181712283
Their role has just as much presence, but the game is geared towards doing shit with farm earlier and not playing 4 protect 1, the pros that do badly are the ones that still try to old
>push lane until its no longer safe
>Farm neutrals
>return to farming lane
>farm neutrals
But that shit's so bad these days because the jungle gives way lass EXP and gold than it used to and comeback gold still means that you will be making your supports an even more tempting target. The meta is about doing shit with your gold early-midgame, rather than just PvEing until lategame. in that sense they are washed up, they refuse to accept that the patches have changed the game and try to apply the same old same old shit that worked years ago to what is happening now.

>australian batriders

o-o-og will win against vici r-right guys??

>>181712848
shikata nai , tinker is a farm vacuum taking all the jungle and you would rather ahve bat feed than tinker

>>181712283
>implying ramzes isn't another shit carry in this meta

>>181712749
Even a shitter like super can win mid with viper
What separates your fatards from your fgods is your ability to capitalize on the sizable early lead you get, and not farm like a retard

>>181712673
I hope they surprise us with a win against a T1 Teams like TNC
Bimbo and RR have been consistent by flip standards
>>181712708
CG and Mineski are overrated man
They're T3 at best

>>181703002
I know right

How do I build him nowadays tho, bfury isn't really an option when most games are one-sided stomps. MoM into Mjolnir?

>>181712749
Super is 10k if he gets his signature heroes
How do you even win against Super Viper

>>181712885
would be pretty embarrassing if they lost to a team that couldn't even qualify for TI

>>181712927
>super is 10k on viper

literally every mid is 10k on viper except maybe c-dog

>>181707084
I don't hate him at all, he seems like a good dude from interviews and what we saw in True Sight. He just has a tendency to sometimes underwhelm as carry and usually when OG loses it's either him fucking up or ana tilting that's the reason.

>>181712927
How do you even win early against Viper?

>>181712691
Soon to become a minor.

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Super has improved quite a lot lately, viper or not

>>181712927
well Viper is a win lane lose game hero, too bad Newbee has farm vacuum tinker

>>181712828
PvEing gives less gold than a won fight so in terms of comeback gold it makes no difference. As long as you gain an advantage you are susceptible to giving comeback gold

>>181712776
LFY is playing right now.

>>181712283
Raven is surprising everyone with his stats though
He's equal with Kuku in terms of game impact
Without him TNC would be in the shitter since a good carry in Flipland is rare

>>181712993
>post TI5 get moved to some sister chink teams
>post TI6 get moved back to some main chink teams
>hero pool still hasn't improved

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Your TI7 winner

why did OG lose their two games

what happened (i didn't watch until now)

>>181712903
VP have a very peculiar playstyle, more traditional in many ways. When they people run mag/troll or mag/jugg nowadays they pit the main empower target mid, but VP still have ramzes on such a hero
He does play lifestealer a lot, but has a much more aggressive play style commonly assisted by one of or both solo and lil
If I had to name a time when their play style was popular, I'd say around the Manilla Major where pos1 and pos4 are the stars of the show, mvps at that tournament were matumba and cr1t, both similar players to ramzes and lil

Can everyone agree to delete tinker from the game?

>>181713012
That's explicitly the point, AFK ricing is forcing your team into playing 4 protect 1, which is shit because farming is harder these days and while your teammates 4v5 they are also feeding the gold advantage you are trying to farm.
Pos 1 these days is about buying items that let you participate in fights midgame it is still a very important role as you have the most gold so you are relatively still one of the strongest heroes on the map, the people who do shit are still stuck in the "let me farm all my lategame items" mentality.
Pos 1 IS important, its what wins/loses you the game, but what makes it important is your midgame -> lategame presence not JUST your lategame presence, the people who fail to capitalize on that are the ones that keep losing

>>181713174
just ban it

>warlock

woah...pro dota huh....really is something

>>181713124
Dunno man, Mason probably can't carry Bulba that hard.

>>181713174
>i am not capable of counterpicking, outplaying or itemizing against x hero
>waaah waaah REMOVE IT waah waah
back to league

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What is this bee sauce container thing that keeps going throwing out here?

>>181713162
i mean in the most recent magnus meta it was all about carries. iG who were the best team in that patch played around Burning

>>181713158
they aren't very good at Dota 2

>pick tank hero
>win

uh... dotard?