Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

What class should I play as a new player? I heard some classes aren't viable and I don't want to waste time on a useless class.

If I use x2 multiply token and then a dungeon invioce ticket, will it reset back to 1/3 or just 2/3?

>keknewal

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peltASSta

Laima and Giltiné are in it together.

>Laima distracts and comforts the dying person while Giltiné delivers the coup de grace.

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>>181456013

Why did you delete your post?

okay, so let's talk about redel.
You can jump cancel it's animation, but it's slow.
You can dash cancel it's animation, and it's faster and actually useful. I believe it does all the hits it's supposed to do.
Earlier today I somehow canceled it with zwerchau. Basically the animation got canceled and redel did it's hits while the zwerchau animation was going on, but later I couldn't replicate it. Did anyone else experiment something similar to that?

>>181456630
>>181456630
Maybe you dashed cancel into zwerchau?

If i'm going Chap, should i get c1 or c2?

>>181459530
Chap2 PD2

>>181459704
nigguh, chap 3 pd5

>>181459530
Why is Chap3 one of the best classes?

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Seriously, if Chap Pd2 is just a shitty meme, why is it ranked n.5 in the most popular builds?

>>181459931
because brs are retarded, koreans go inquisitor

>>181459530
Don't go ChapPD man, it's a fucking RUSE.

Before this meme I was going Chap build and didn't feel like doing Miko so I grabbed PD. Only regrets.

>>181459931
Most popular != Good

>>181459931

Chaplain was the shittiest meme I've ever fallen for and it was by far the most popular Cleric build at release. As time went on it died but this early after the rebalance there's going to be a lot of people rused by these meme builds.

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>>181459530
>>181459704
>>181459871
Chap3 costume is literally best ever. only fags use anything else.

>>181460565
Chaplain inquisitor is actually pretty good: good support+good dps

Quitting the game tomorrow if nothing new in patch.
PM me for all my stuff.
1. You can't be in any of the guilds in OP.
2. You can't be known.
I have about 300 to 400m worth of stuff.
If no one PMs I'm deleting it all.

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Still, Chaplain has the best looking skill in the game.

>>181460698
nice meme

>>181460683

Yeah I agree, I didn't mean to imply Chaplain now is bad. Just that release Chaplain was a shitty meme much like Chaplain PD2 is now.

>>181460698
Key send :^)

How does Diev3 PD2 works?

>>181460804
>that costume
god I'm hard as rock
>>181460950
it doesn't work

>>181460698
sent

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>>181460036
Misinfo pls go
chap inq isn't even in the top 10 of the korean list, unlike chap pd2

>>181461519
Sodman

>>181460698
>I have about 300 to 400m
I know a secret technique on a secret spot to get this kind of pocket change within a few minutes.

>>181461614
[Spoiler] Sadman [/spoiler]

>>181460985
tfw you'll never find a qt softspoken jewish girl with some crazy kink for taking it up her large jewish schnoz

>>181461519
>play that doctor
kek

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>>181461519
>Top 10
Nice try!

>>181461519
koreans are stupid. Why should anyone choose PD after chap.

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>>181461519

I-Inq isn't too far behind!

>>181462152
plague Inq
cmon that's an old build

>>181461519
Only decent Plague doctor is Sadhu plague doctor.

>>181461965
>>181462152
>source is not http://tos.nexon.com/rank/characterrank.aspx
please at least try

How does one calculate the proper "at cost" price for shops?

>>181462590
>Reading about Sodman and Play That Doctor instead of proper classes
No thank you

>>181461519
Chap PD2 is in the top list cause Koreans are weebs.
No interactions between Chap PD unlike Chap Inquisitor

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>>181462646
Price of materials/(Percentage left after tax)
100/.7
If it goes through market add that as well

I've only done some I care about here because I have the classes.

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>>181462646
x * 0.7 = material_cost
x = material_cost / 0.7

cleric3 paladin3 ? inqui
or
cleric2 priest3 chaplain ? inqui

>>181462946
Chap Inqui, the new trend

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>>181462946
>paladin
retard

>>181462660
Problem?

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>>181462864
I really didnt know any of the numbers so go fuck yourself ;)

>>181462856
Thanks!

How to make money without being a Necro?

>>181463510
get a job and RMT

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our second batch of feris
they said feri is as rare as practo /Tired

anyway Comfy is recruiting, come join us bully hauberk everyday

>>181463623
McDonalds is a good one?

>>181463510
Find a secret spot and exploit it.

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The reason because people choose PD after chaplain is Healing factor you fags.
What does Inquisitor bring as "support"?
Absolutely nothing.
That's why koreans choose PD2

>>181463710
good enough

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>wasting tickets on Hauberk
L0L

>>181463724
Healing factor nearly useless.
>What does Inquisitor bring as "support"?
2k damage on everyone's attacks from Malleus, Wheel to make melee attacks splash.

>>181463942
those glasses look dumb

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>>181464234
u wot m8

>>181464009
>healing factor useless
do you even play this game? It's a fantastic healing skill, it's impossible to die with healing factor on the ground
>2k damage on everyone's attacks from Malleus, Wheel to make melee attacks splash.
yeah, useless since melee classes are shit

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>>181463942
>using last seasons glasses
Silly Anons

>>181463674
>join a guild
>they can do hauberk
>say they won't because not enough people(?)
>ask how do new people get mystical box/prac
>"you buy them for talt"

>"hey everyone wanna join this guild raid where we give you nothing for your time and make you pay us for the rewards"
lol

>>181464382
>it's impossible to die with healing factor on the ground
First of all it's only for one person.
Second, even if now damage is greatly reduced, before renewal Healing Factor healing couldn't keep up with the damage most bosses did in serious content, and from the korean videos seems like bosses will go back doing 20k/hit soon enough, making Healing Factor irrelevant.

>yeah, useless since melee classes are shit
Malleus Damage gets applied to EVERYTHING, from magical aoes to archer to melee characters.
They best thing is that it gets stronger the stronger the enemy is.
Against world bosses it will add 4k damage to each instance of damage.

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>>181464810
>say they won't because not enough people(?)

I really want an Oracle. There aren't good builds in tosbase, is Oracle ded?

>>181464382

The most overpowered class in the game right now is a melee class. Healing Factor isn't as useful as you make it sound and it's certainly not the reason people go PD2.

Why even go chaplain PD2? PD2 is good but it has very little synergy with the first six classes of your build. You'd rather play to your strengths (wheel, burn attribute, malleus) than make a crappy version of a Sadhu PD2.

>>181465029
Oracle is a filler class. You take it with whatever you want.
There aren't any good Oracle3 because Oracle3 is just a shop build like Pardoner.

>>181464939
ok smartass, then explain why ChapPD is rank 11 and chapInqui is rank 22

>>181465029
>Oracle 3
Pretty much unusable garbage outside of PvP which is itself pretty garbage right now, will be useful as a full con support if/when they reimplement GvG since it lets your team spread out more while keeping prophecy and counterspell can cover the whole guild.

>Oracle 1
Decent filler class for Chapquisitor and Bokordoctor, competes with Miko and is more defensive compared to Miko's offensive abilities.

>Oracle 2
No.

>>181465336
>popular means good
Remember when Elementalist was still the #1 build in r8 when it was garbage?

>>181464382
boring misinfo posts are my least favorite misinfo

>>181465029
use it as a filler for Chap>xxx>Inquisitor.

QS 3 was always bad but still ultra popular, specially that abomination qs 3 wugu3 mergen build. Chaplain PD is the same case, at least the build is decent

>>181465501

miko is better

>>181465612
Guess what other build is garbage but still popular
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5t2xhujvdi/

>>181454950
what role do you want to play, single target damage, aoe, support, farming...:?

>>181465742
hahahaha sure my friend.
Miko is utter shit right now

Are there any good spots I can farm as SR3 outside of dungeons pre-Aspana?

>>181465808
Legit Build.
Swords needs SPR and CON.

>>181454950

There's only a few really useless classes. The problem is how your classes work together in your build, you can even fuck up Elementalist and Doppel with the rest of your build (seen a pyro2ele3warlock1sage1 and a peltasta3doppel3).

>>181454950
play whatever class you want, you'll mess it up no matter what and it won't matter if you actually have fun playing the game cause you can always reroll

>>181466261

DP2 is like 600k raw but it kinda sucks now that the cube killed gem value so hard. You can try farming yellow caro antennas for 500k/hr raw and sell whatever antennas you get.

>>181466483
Thanks, looks like there are very few on the market right now for 1.7~mil, so maybe I can get lucky and get a bit of money

>>181466240
>60% more holy damage is shit
Show one cleric that can do 60% of a doppel's DPS

>>181466240

ever tried
breaking wheel traps into kagura, anon? plus hanaya is still good

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I have a secret spot where I make 500k in 20 minutes.

>>181466725
>>181466781
miko got nerfed hard and nobody plays him anymore

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>>181466826
Slow and bad. Why even play like that?

>>181466725
Chapmemes can easily match doppelnigger DPS, especially on demon/devil mobs (aka, 99% of mobs).

>>181466826

I make 760k every 25 minutes but it's only once per day

>>181466952
ur dumb

>>181466961
so 760k every 24hrs?

>>181467096
I unironically outdeepsed a bunch of Lotuses on Mirtis and I arrived when the boss was at 50%.

How hard is it to farm Sage Wall?

>>181467190
>playing tos for more than 30m a day
lol

>>181466781
ever tried
spending 72% of your SP for a useless spell?

is it normal not to get Daily missions? I completed them fpr 2 days straight and now when I sepak to the NPC he doesn't give me quests

>>181467252
0.01% droprate

How many of you assholes do RMT?

>>181467495
on klaip, it's probably around 8 people, less than 15 tosgs i think

>>181467495
I'd like to but don't trust them

>>181467278

>pop one lv 15 potion with my 520 spr

WOWOWOWW

>>181467759
and yet you managed to waste SP potions on a useless skill. Well done anon!

>>181467679
>>181467721
OP here I bought 10mil last night and it was delivered and delivered quickly. Might do more in the future because it's easier to level and to get cosmetics that way. I'm paranoid about getting frozen usually but it seems like itos doesn't really care too much at least at this point..

>>181468294
which site?

>>181467495
I don't because it's so easy to make money in this game. I have 411 million in the bank and I've never paid anyone.

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so what's the best r7 filler for a chap inqui
don't just give me names

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No fucking clerics are running the 290 dungeon or what? What are they all doing? ERPing?

I should make another cleric. PD2 seems fun.

>>181468598
seagm
started low because really paranoid about them not delivering the goods
>>181468851
necro farming? I'd like to get to this point some day.. I've just started the game though and have low patience for the dungeon cap (my preferred leveling habit) so I like to pop reset papers, multiply, and cookies to try and blast through...

>>181468294
What site did you use?

>>181468982

I took Kabbalist on mine for the party SP recovery+r7x. It matters very little in the long run so I'd say just take whichever appeals to you.

>>181469078
It's the law that if you're not a cleric, you won't get any in dungeons, but if you are one, you will get several other clerics.

>>181468982
oarcle for change, item drops and Status lvl 1 and magic protection

>>181469078
cleric PD2
stop this meme pls

>>181469942
Why is it bad?

>>181468982
>>181469815
>forgetting your best PvE ability Counterspell

>>181470094
unless you plan to go sadhu plague, that's good.
If you wanna go Chap Plague, read the thread on why it's an horrible idea

>>181470286
So what do you get before sadhu3pd2? cle3? You can still kinda heal no?

>>181470286
>sadhu pd
>not a real support
>not a real dps
lol

>>181471507

Sadhu PD does respectable AoE damage and can Transmit INT to an Elelock. You can take Diev in your free slot and you're a good mix of support and DPS.

>>181471507
>not real support
exactly, if you wanna go full support you go taoist
>not real dps
Plague's dps without transmit prana is meh.
On a sadhu PD every tick hits for 20k. On a chap pd ticks are 3-5k and that's it.

>>181471507
Chap>oracle>inquisitor can do both support AND dps better than Chap PD

So what is a good PD2 build then? I dont see a consensus. Give me details folks.

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do i craft a silver hawk rn or save my pract for aspana?

>>181473328
C2>Diev1>Saduh3>PD2

>>181473328
C2>Diev1>Sadhu3>PD2
C3>Sadhu3>PD2
C2>Bokor>Sadhu3>PD2

>>181473656
C3 is a bit of an overkill

Is fencer viable or only meme class?

>>181474009
If you don't want to waste your time with diev or bokor skills it's perfectly fine.

>>181473656
what does bokor bring to the build?

>>181474158
Effigy getting spread by Pandemic

Pandemic can't spread fire, and BDS spreads itself, so it gives it a use or something to that effect

>>181473656
C2>Diev1>Sadhu3>PD2
interesting, which diev skills should one take?

>>181474254
you mean Hexing getting spread.
Hexing > Black Death Steam > Pandemic > Incineration > Effigy

Explain how INT ChapPD2 is bad, right now.

>>181474424
Everything but carve

>>181474639
Yea my bad I don't play a bokor so Idon't remember which is which for skill names

>>181475005
Why go Chap if not SPR. The only reason to take Chap would be for blessing benefiting your party members and yourself, it's really not optimal for solo play, but SPR wlil help immensely in a party and if you cared about solo you would have gone sadhu3PD2 instead

>>181475005
>I'm gonna take the character class that uses primarily basic attacks
>But ignore everything in the late ranks that makes it good because PD is cheaper
>In spite of PD2 having amazing support options in lower circles

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plus tip

>>181475143
>>181475247
So there's no reason it's bad then? Gotcha.

>>181475301
Blessing with full spr will give you more damage than a full int build.

>>181475462
Why would you go and tell lies like that?

>>181475462
Yeah but no Saduh.
PD damage without Sadhu is shit.

>>181475531
>I'm bad at math
NIGGER

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>>181475267
HNNNNNNNG

>>181475651
You are indeed bad at math.

>>181475009
why not carve?

>>181475962
Because he's stupid, you don't need vakarine above 1.

>>181475301
There is.
>>181475462
This is a lie.

The reason it's bad is that you have to consider your build overall, consider this from a different perspective. You want to go PD2, you have 2 real choices.
1)More support oriented
2)DPS
Chap will give you the support, Sadhu3 will give you the DPS. Going full INT Chap is like throwing those 4 circles away because your blessing is shit so your support oriented nature is tossed in the trash. Nothing on the chap side will match up to the Sadhu side of damage, so it's pointless to go INT, go all in SPR Chap or don't go Chap.

>>181475962
Because it's shit? Even when leveling as a diev it's shit, you'll never ever use it after that time.
Laima - Levels are rather pointless but that's going to change apparently as they fix how the slow works soon
Zemyna - When you party with SP CRAVING characters this will be helpful
Vakarine - Fuck scrolls (Now for the whole party!)

>>181476108
>Blessing is the only support Chap gives
Completely retarded.

>>181476064
The reason to take it past 1 is that sure if all click it and you don't go before the last person clicks to open the interface, everyone can use it. If that's not the case, different story. I don't like waiting for people.

You gain absolutely nothing out of carve, it won't be in your rotation when you're Diev1 and it won't be in your rotation any time after either, it's trash.

>>181476190
Far from it, but all of that support is party-oriented, that's what it is, support. You decided to pick a support class, but pick a selfish solo stat build which actually loses damage overall for your party. It's foolish.

>>181476306
Blessing isn't anywhere near strong enough for that to be true and it's not like it doesn't scale with INT (though the scaling is obviously less)

>>181476371
please go full INT and come back after you realise your mistake

>>181476306
>You gain absolutely nothing out of carve
Wrong, you get a very fast hitting multihit which is great again structures.
ET has many floors in which you need to destroy structures co carve is very valuable there.

Just get Vakarine to 4 if your party is THAT retarded that can't wait 30 seconds, you can get to 5 with DM.

>>181476371
They removed the INT scaling after renewal.

>>181476530
That's fine too, just definitely don't need more than 1 point in carve

>>181476108
>This is a lie.
The only way 1k matk will do more damage than a full SPR blessing is if you have very high attributes everywhere (75+). And even then it's not sure since Blessing doesn't get reduced by mdef.

>>181476789
Or just skill with high % scaling.

>>181474031
Fencer's perfectly fine.

>>181476878
Like what? Fucking aspersion?

>>181477095
Astral Body Explosion and Possession.
Why the fuck would you go INT priest you idiot

>>181476789
>75 is considered high attribute level by some

>>181477218
Because we are talking about INT chaplains, autismo.

>>181477360
No you retard we are talking about INT vs SPR in general and what's the best path to PD.
Follow the reply chain properly.

>INT Chap
>buy bless from whale pardoners
Best of both worlds :^)

>>181477321
75% on Incineration costs 15.8m and gives you a 200% scaling.
75% on BDS is 36.2m and gives 195% scaling.

With 2500 matk a hit with a 200% skill will do ~2300 damage on a mob with 1250 mdef.
With 1k more matk (3500), you'll dead ~3850, so only 1550 more damage.

While blessing is at least 1600 with NO spr gear and NO divine might.

>>181477539
The reply chain is "Explain how INT ChapPD2 is bad, right now."
And then you quote "Blessing will do more damage than a full int build" and say that it's a lie.
So yeah, gas yourself.

>>181477030
Thank you.

For PVE is it recommended to do peltasta/corsair or barbarian?

>>181477948
Sword3 then you have 2 free ranks to pick whatever.
Fencer is only good at bossing and for bossing you need max Pain Barrier.

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>>181476371
It doesn't scale with INT since the patch.

tos.neet.tv gives me this for all invested in INT essentially vs SPR. There are more points to give on both sides, but this is the difference you get going full STATS in SPR.

Now consider this is for your entire party, some won't apply it as fast as you, some might.
That difference of 554 should be multiplied by 5 for your whole party. Compare that to whatever you would gain from INT, not multiplied by 5 and you have your answer roughly.

You'd have to work in the BDS/Incinerate/etc scaling obviously, I'm not autistic enough to sit down and do that when I already know the answer.

>>181477604
>Buy bless every 3minutes

Worst of both worlds

Is the Sword3High3ShinobiBarb poster here?
I want to know what content you think that build excels in.

Does SPR affect Sorc's Summon Familiar skill?

I hate when I find 10 lv1 green gems for 10mil each in market but the addon won't tell me whose they are.

>>181478230
Maybe I should have used lennyface... maybe you'd have gotten the fact that it was a joke then?

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>>181478974
You're too late.

>>181478795
>had to make a new account every time i wanted to buy silver because of the namedrop trap that is this addon
fuck this

>>181479051
I was calling you stupid in case you missed that too.

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>>181479160
Thebest part is that I'm not the person you were originally replying to. What a world of anons we live in.

>>181479085
Autismo you could have made a new character for that, used your cards and instantly gotten to level 40 to use the market.

>>181477948
Those are outdated, the general build is Sw3HL2Fencer3 now. Personally I'd prefer Barb1 instead of Sw3 but most others don't.

>>181479085

At least have the balls to be open with your RMT like that lolo rapier guy. Or the stage 9 trans gloves guy on Orsha.

>>181479350
Yeah, most other people aren't retarded. 10 more sec on PB > Barb1

>>181479476
>I can't move out of the way of attacks
People ran Sw2 for a lot of builds for the past year before the combat changes and pain barrier was still fine then.

I'd prefer 50+ crit rate and a few more aoe skills/stun for general purpose mobbing.

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1 talt plus tip

>>181479923
>implying 90% of bosses attacks are dodgeable
Get out of Siaulau retard

>>181479923
>pain barrier was still fine then.
lol

>>181473425

aspana, of course.

main hand = stat stick for your limaconbot.

chrisus shooter is a good option (2 slots, 35 dex, 80 property atk) or a poorman's choice chapparition shooter (3 slots, cheap). isbality for tryhard, karacha xbow for the mov speed

I play Sword3 High2 Doppel3. What're you nerds going to do about it?

>>181480973
Pretty solid dps build.

>>181480973
>doppelcuck
I'll just laugh at you.

>>181481125
Better than the High3 Barb cucks that won't get a followup class in R9. Even if no other 2h weapon class gets released I can take High3 Shinobi.

>>181481425
but you'll still be a doppelcuck and I'll still laugh at you

>>181481524
Ok, I'll remember you laughing when your chronowife is sucking my big thick sword.

>>181481765
Yours is already sucking on my fat staff

>>181482056
>staff
kek

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>>181478463
I haven't tried ET yet with this character, but it doesn't replace Doppel and Corsair3Shinobi is better IMO (pistol shot erases waves of mobs with your Falco's Circling and Shinobi makes you a good boss killer). It's a great WB killer and it's good for Library too. My combos with Bunshin no Jutsu are:

Kunai
Crosscut > Cleave > Crown > Skull Swing > Moulinet > Vertical Slash x2
Crosscut > Cleave > Double Slash x3 > Skyliner x5 or Pommel Beat x3
(Cross Guard) Kunai

You can also apply Cross Guard's debuff before using Bunshin no Jutsu so your first Kunai deals double damage.

>>181482316
Does the shinobi clones copy all those skills?

>>181482428
No, they copy Crown (shit), Pommel Beat, Kunai, Moulinet and Double Slash.

I only have dmg% attributes for Kunai and Moulinet (lv60 = +30% dmg). Kunai deals decent damage, specially if you manage to apply Cross Guard's debuff. It also benefits from buffs like Concentrate and Blessing. My Moulinet is dealing the biggest part of the damage. When doing Saalus mission, it simply erases Velochard from existence in the Canyon mission. Double Slash deals HUGE damage too. It may be even better than Moulinet when I start lvling up its attribute and getting good gloves to put its monster gem in it. Pommel Beat deals meh damage, but it's nice against Plate armored bosses and should deal decent damage with the attribute. If only we could apply stun to bosses, it would be much better (Pommel Beat deals extra damage against stunned enemies).

>>181482316
I wish I had a shinobi gf so she could give me 5x the pleasure in the sex.

>>181480973

great build desu, bu the lack of cleave hurt your overall doppel set. still great since hl excels at c2 and sword it's so fucking good


there's a reason fencers roll this setup

>>181483282
One last question.
Can I touch your butt?

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>>181483826
Which butt?

>>181483282
I'm still personally iffy if I should main my future murmillo and drop my dragoon for now. All my good gears are with my Dragoon but as class wise even with crap gears my shinobi hits harder.

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Does boss tracker works with canceril? The description says it doesn't since it is a gimmick boss, but every where I look says Canceril is a normal field boss.

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>>181484031
Yes, Shinobi is very cheap compared to other WB killers. Since field bosses will be relevant content in the upcoming patches, I guess it's worth a try.

wb meta parties are going to be one buster, 2-3 chronos a thauma and...?

>>181484471
Yeah and with Murmillo all my Rodelo skills that I took will be buffed as well.

>>181484703
Sadhu3Kabba3
Don't quote me on NOTHING

>>181484703
I guess a priest.
Dragoon bitch if buster is melee.

>>181484703
>thauma
retard

Can I do the shinobi quest line even if I am r8? I wanna get it out of the way if they ever do another reset event.

>>181484703
Why would you want a thauma when you can have yet another chrono

>>181485178
yes

>>181485480
>>181485138

thauma 2 chrono 3

thauma 3 gives +4 trans stage worth of damage tho

>>181485089
>if bust is melee
there is no other option

>>181485565
kek

>>181484703

Doppel, Inquisitor, Dragoon, 2 Chronos.

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>>181485565
>thauma 3 gives +4 trans stage worth of damage tho
Maybe to a wizard wearing a rod (barely any ever do) and a dagger. Most people are walking with a 2hander because it's cheaper and more efficient.

t. LifelineThauma3

>>181485861
>>181485698

You know that the highest dps in the game right now on are fencers, right? You can easily add 2500 raw physical attack with both swells from a thauma 3 with a proper spr/int set.

Dragoon is interesting but you also helps your competition. Anyway, in case of no competition, hoplite/barbarian dragoon are really great. hop for spear lunge, barb for warcry to extend serpentine's.

>>181486154
Shinobi builds are better than fencers you delusional cuckold

>>181486154

Any debuff is going to help your competition. The key factor is to be able to make better use of the debuff than your competition - also your competition won't be able to time their rotation well with your Serpentine.

>>181486218

Maybe with 3 chronos, hardly with 1, not sure with two.

Literally all theorycraft discussion leads to Pass being the most powerful skill in the game.

Mr. Kim is coming to you, Chronomancer.

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>>181480010
I'm bored

I bought a rapid bangle recipe for 50k, was I scammed?

>>181487080

They should've learned from the fact that RO's most broken skill was also a CDR skill.

Time for some Masochism!

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-game-is-easier-than-it-should-be-at-lower-levels/365631/21

>they want lower level hardcore grind on a dead game

>>181488206
Pretty cheap you nignog stop trolling

>>181488241
By calling it dead you're admitting that making it too easy failed.

>>181488241

desu I really feel that currently...there's not much fun when you unlock a new low rank and work around with your also low level party mates to face the content

I was really excited to do dungeons at lv 50, 90 and 130 in the beginning, it was a one of the most exciting party of my day

now these dungeons are all trash that you can autoatk with anything, a boring formality.

pardoner with fixed dps buffs was also a mistake

>>181487080
The way they approach 'Overheat' and CD (not) scaling with level is the reason they ended up in this rut.

Overheat means far from what we have it at, it's actually quite literally the opposite, but they even addressed that in the interview so they know how fucking stupid their terminology is. It's sad that despite that they won't make it what the term implies, because that would actually be fucking neat.

I'd actually prefer if Overheat put on a much longer CD, but all currently Overheat sklils kept the CD as CD/OH. So a 30s 2x OH skill currently would be 15s CD to regain one charge, but if you use all charges it goes on a 2minute CD or something similar. This would make quite a few classes more interesting than just 'dump it all out baby'. Would have to move some OH around though on quite a few skills.

Theoretically, I fucked up and already made a chapPD2

Mace or Rod?
Rod seems to be way better until I have to auto attack, then I really feel it lacking

>>181490534

windia rod and don't look back

the best would be skull smasher but...

How is the second boss of the 290 dungeon Armaos? Is he difficult? Is he soloable? I wanna farm his cube but everyone does the bottom one.

>>181491943

he used to be the most dangerou boss in the game, he could oneshot my 35k hp swordsman with a combo.

now he's... much weaker but his shield is cancerous. he has a magnetic force like skill that can stuck you forever so in case this happens, use a book from your inventory

not sure how geared you're but any char can solo him, bring lv 15 alch potions + huge npc potions (just in case)

>>181488434
>game is dead
>let's get more players by making the early game harder
sounds good

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>>181491943
How to reach it?

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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112228cg.1a2a345561.1a213f4351649aa1.25314155617191.152545.657585
Is this build ok? Oracle is filler, don't mind it, i just want oracle

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>>181492678
destroy Orb at greenDot room first

>>181493153
>There are people that like that cleric costume
>Retard glasses
That explains everything

>>181492307
Imagine this as a new player's experience. You finally get to level 50, buff up by pots get ready for a dungeon run you never done before. After waiting 20 minutes you're excite to finally get in only for some guy to use an item that sucks in everything and kills everything including the boss.

>>181493636
It was the first image i saw, didn't care about that

>>181493849
Imagine this as a new player's experience. You finally get to level 50 after two days of grinding because the early game has been made harder. Your first dungeon takes 20 minutes to match you with a random party that has no healers. It takes you another 25 minutes to clear it for 3 levels, and that's just the first run.
Also you're over one year behind in blessed shards and silver. Good luck getting those attributes and stage 10 transcendence after spending weeks just to reach the required level because some asshat wanted the early game to be more challenging.

>>181493153
What's a yaoi hand?

>>181485089
No, the bitch for the buster should be a Lancer
Crush >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every debuff the dragoon can put on something

Really, Dragoon needs so many buffs now

>>181493153
>Shitpostiana

>>181484703
wb parties will be whatever like they have always been, there won't be shinobimurmillo everywhere

>>181494252
Jap women commonly draw GIGANTIC hands on men. It shows in everything female oriented. Ones who make het porn that isn't some shoujo style shit don't do it as much.

What lvl~ I unlock Rank 8 ?

Do you guys like talt depicted as tiny coin sized or large plate sized?

>>181496012
like middle/early 27X

>>181496081
According to the description, its a gem.

>>181493153
Ah, this picture healed me.

Just kidding~ That's what you thought I'd say as a Japanese male, didn't you?

>>181497260
>Japanese
>male

>>181498732
on the left slightly a bit over the highest point of the cross aim thingy
The bush looks like it has a cannon sticking out

Thoughts about Mergen
Spread Shit - Only 1 hit, is shit, needs a fuckload of money just to get a max probability of 20% of getting a bounce.
Homing Arrow - Long cast time, can be broken.
Triple Arrow - Kinda ok but low damage for long cooldown
Arrow Sprinkle - Good damage attack since you can cancel the animation by using dilgele or sp pots.
Parthian Shift - Useless when using a mouse.

>>181498732
There's no tank, friendly CAS took them all out.

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>>181498732

>>181498732
You're inside it...

>>181493153
So it is a bad build?

>>181499198
Yep, go with this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112228cg.1a29355561.1f213f4551627294.21314155617195.153545.41647585

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>>181498732
If i show titties will the tank come out?

So, in the current game state the exp cards from wings of wibora are account shared and not character separated like in ktos?

>>181499456
Which stats should i level?

>>181499678
Full SPR

>>181494185
I don't have to imagine it. In icbt1 I was in the 30's after 2 days, dungeons took longer than that to clear, we didn't have matching so we had to form parties manually, we couldn't afford any attributes because there were no high level players to pay huge amounts of silver for materials dropped by low level stuff, and it was a lot more fun than the current boring skipping to the completely absent endgame so we can rerun saalus endlessly for gear that isn't needed for anything.

Stage 10? What the fuck? Even day 1 veterans usually don't care to try to get stage 10, and you're treating it like a minimum requirement for brand new players? You have no reason to be playing RPGs at all with that attitude and you're basically saying "delete the whole game because I want to be done with it and quit already."

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>>181498732

>>181498732
Isnt your crosshair on the t-34?

>>181461519
How good is that 1 circle of barb? I haven't seen anyone recently with it

>>181472312
>On a chap pd ticks are 3-5k and that's it.
Retard detected. Even casting Blessing alone assuming you get literally 0 damage from your weapon, you can already do that much.

>>181505285
play the game faggot.

How long does a channel have to be empty for its timers to reset on spawns?

You know, I'm having fun as Krivis(three) even though it is broken and bad.
Zaibas doesn't work at all half the time but when it does it feels so good. It's like gambling.

Also seems a lot stronger when it actually works than I expected given all the people that dropped it on keknewal. Oh well, this build is a support build anyway so any damage it does isn't really too important. Also going Taoist so lul damage.

>>181505285
>Even casting Blessing alone assuming you get literally 0 damage from your weapon, you can already do that much.
Are you stupid or what?

>>181505968
Are you?

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>>181505968
>implying you can't get 3-5k damage from Blessing

>>181506160
I have a chap PD, and fucking hell are you lying about dmg output

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31144daaa.1a4a5a.1a354a55.15234552.2a3f4e5571
Goor SR build? Don't know much about archers

>>181506325
see >>181506267

>>181506506
yeah and then youìll have 10k damage at best while sadhuPD will do 25k+
Nice job choosing an underpowered class

>>181506639
>10k damage at best
Try again.

>>181506919
you really think Chap PDs are able to dish out more than 10K damage?
top kek

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3113666eh.1a4a5a.15253441.2f4f5a75.11344565.455575

Yes?

The QS is for getting pavise aggro so I can setup circling and poisons. The Sprinkle is for Wugong Gu. While Parthian Shift hits very hard for a single target.

>>181507897
No.

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Who wet for patch notes?

>>181508380
What patch notes?

>>181508601
The one buffing Hackapelle

>>181509115
Where? Why? Hacka is actually one of the better archer classes right now, couldn't they help out one that is truly suffering like Rogue or Wugushi?

Got oracle 1. How do I use it? Change/clair/reset seems kinda pointless to me atm

>>181510536
It's a filler class

>>181510593
yeah but does it have some kind of utility?

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https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1035

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>>181510789

>>181510789
>those ugly retarded costumes
I think I'm going to be sick.

When will the manteinance start?

As an archer planning to go SR, should one raise the STR stat first or the DEX start first?

>>181510789
>Hair and costume items can now be purchased in duplicate and/or by characters not corresponding to the item's gender.
OH BOIIII LOOK WHO'S JEWING MORE AND MORE

The pet event was one of the best event we had. and it's going to end shortly.
Fucking hope they do a decent event in the near future, cause it seems like they're going the p2w jew path more and more

>>181511738
I hope they add an actually fun one, this was basically welfare stuff. Pirate is another retarded daily, Marriage is boring. Forge was neat in a way.

I mean rewards are always nice but it seem to be mostly about the reward and keep people logging every day than being an event, especially when the reward isn't themed.

Though if they had any interest of making something fun, they'd probably add it to the endgame.

>>181496924
It also weighs 10x more than common items.

>>181512208
>she doesn't like daily chores
Why are you even playing this game?

>>181510882
Well at least you can trade it back to Leticia for medals for some actual good costumes.

>>181512471
I ask myself that question many times.

>buy 2 character slots with my 100 TP
>still have 49 TP

Do I just buy p2wcubes or something?

>>181513382
yes

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hmmmm

>>181513553
eww, i can see her poophole

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>>181513553
Stop right now criminal scum!
This thread is lewd free now!
Post only cute!

>>181513382
no, they give shit drops anyway

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Can you icewall fishing shitters out of their fishing spot?

>>181515073
Can't use any skills in the fishing hole area.

>>181515226
Icewalls can extend pretty far.

>>181510789
Lame, Owl and Carnival mask were in the game files since forever and owl was from party events.

>>181506408
It's actually the best possible choice of ranks.

but... Time Bomb Arrow a shit.
Blindside is actually VERY strong
Wild Shot is garbage
Marching Fire is actually very useful when farming, max it.
NEVER take a point out of Retreat Shot or Limacon, that is literally core, Caracole doesn't matter at all comparively.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31144daaa.1721314a5a61.1a354a55.15234255.2a3f4f75
Try this

>>181510915
>>181510789
It sincerely bothers me that a game that's so clearly running around the cutesy look can't get their monetization scheme right for costumes

Look at MapleStory, that's exactly what IMC needs to be doing, dropping several sets of costumes every patch that people have DIRECT access to with cash. Hiding it behind this medals bullshit is fine for some, not all/most, or at the very least phase most old ones into direct TP. The ones they DO drop need to look better too.

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Oh my gracious Kek!
I was in this party yesterday, one guy was high level, had x8 tomes and saw he wasn't getting experience, so he rushed to the boss. Kinda of a douche move but whatever, I get he didn't want to burn tomes.
Well the rest of the party wasn't very happy about it, understandable, not a great deal.
And today this faggot writes on DA FORUMZ complainig and filling an official suspension request for the guy.
why are forumshitters so bad?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/party-member-kill-the-dungeon-bosses-but-join-in-queue/365635/10

>>181517367
Fuck off you stole my pepe gesti image.

>>181517617
SURRY MEIT

Ok time to discuss something serious. Neutrality is bugged, why are we not wardeccing Honeytrappers?

>>181517178
got some questions regarding the 3 points distributed in kneeling shot, heavy shot and full drawn. why 1 point? and are the skills worth it?

>>181517763
who are you?

>>181517763
Because not only it's not bugged but also nobody gives a shit about a 2 man drama.

>>181517367
He was a total asshole.
If he didn't want to waste the tome he could just fucking log our.
By rushing the boss he wasted the run for 4 other people and some of them had multipliers on.

>>181517763
>declaring against a guild I have literally never seen a single person in

I'll have so many world PvP targets!

>>181517787
Multishit isn't worth it either. Oblique would be god but the OH nerfed it, still the only thing to care about outside of Swift Step

Multi shot 'feels' like it does a lot of damage, but it's really pretty bad overall if you want to consider it all.

>>181518003
yeah fine, nothing to make such a huge fuus about. I too wanted to do a full run but whatever. I'm more angry when the game disconnects me mid dungeon.

>>181518330
Because you are a literal cuck.

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>>181518397

>>181517367
He could have char selected, he was a cunt.

You can easily tell if you're well beyond exp range, since you'd have been well into the next dungeon range by then, also he wouldn't be queued with you so he was getting SOME exp he just either picked the wrong dungeon or was a hyper idiot for wasting his tome that way.

Either way, he's honestly quite the cunt for doing what he did, it's not understandable, there are ways he could have gotten around it, and this is honestly a bit of a problem with Auto Match which is all over the place right now.

>>181518330
>There is something that makes me more angry so someone else's complete lack of regard for his party mates is acceptable

No need to lie, that person was you, and you just didn't want to get hit with a name drop.

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2 nukes weren't enough

>>181518787
>with Auto Match which is all over the place right now.
I've been doing auto match saalus on my 7 317+ characters for a few weeks and it has been working out surprisingly well, better than people from shout, even with full support or shop characters

>>181518854
nope, I was one of the other 4.
also
>>181518854
>>181518787
>>181518003
>getting angry over a videogame

>>181518868

Not seeing the issue here. He can still golden anvil it to a respectable level.

>>181519059
It's transcended so he won't be able to use his other characters for golden anvils.
Also, yellow gems.

>>181518901
Same, but that's not usually the case for dungeons.

1)Long wait times
2)Auto Match 2-4 is atrocious in that it almost always seems to force that one person was waiting at least 5minutes before it lets you in. This means that if it's an unpopular dungeon I have to wait at least 15minutes a day per character to get in
3)No chat for queue, so you can't tell people that you're going to voucher, you can use shout but dungeons are cross-server so...
4)No showing up of what class others are in the list, so you can't decide "Oh we can duo cause he's a cleric"

>>181519127
Farming an Astra
I have yet to do/check math for yellow gems for my Sapper3Fwee3, maybe they aren't that bad considering the +% crit attributes my build has

I need an addon to help me with guild farming. I always miss it and details are unclear. So far I know it's 5 hours till harvest.

Is there an addon that just tracks it for me?

>>181517367
Sometimes I forget how much fun you can have griefing the autistic shitters here in this game

I should spend some time just queuing and bossrushing the 230 and 290 dungeon
People love using tomes/multipliers on those

>>181519234
Yellow gems are always bad. The only unrealistic scenario where yellow beat reds is when your patk is 10 times higher than the mob's defense.

The difference between reds and yellows isn't that big though.

>>181519412

You write shit like this and call other people autistic?

>>181519412
Kill yourself

>>181519412
reminder that you can detonate traps or counterspell clear vouchers

>>181519271
You should be watering it every so often anyway.

>>181519412
I think that time would be better spent looking for a hobby or something else you can enjoy. Getting your kicks off of ruining other peoples' day isn't going to benefit you at all and will probably end up biting you in the ass eventually.

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Coffee is recruting cuties

Anyone have advice on good thresholds to hit for your character progression? My orange is +11 stage 3 with 3 6* gems but my attributes are only level 40 each. Not sure where to go from here.

>Monthly TP Spending Limit Applied
>bots were literally buying TP with stolen credit cards to roll cubes and sell silver
>took IMC this long to take action

Cute is recruiting
coffees