/parag/ - Paragon General

serath is /ourgirl/

my bad. fell asleep

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>>181264228
excuse me

jesus fucking christ i just played as yin with narbash, he didnt buy one fuckin card and of course we got destroyed.
Why the fuck does this happen

>agora is kill
kek

>>181264815
Man, I don't know what's going on with supports lately: there hasn't been a decent support on my team in forever (if we're lucky enough to have one in the first place). Been thinking about going support main for a while, but I don't want to play Phase, and I'd be actively fucking the team over by picking someone other than her.
Christ, Phase ruined this game.

>>181265163
Good, hope it stays kill.

>>181265163
For good?

>>181265430
dunno but its ded now

>>181265163
paragon.gg is closer to the internal mmr anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4lsPKEVpHM
Are you guys hearing this shit?
Cameron's creaming himself over how annoying Iggy's going to be, and how you'll have to send more than half your team to deal with him if you don't want to lose a lane. He's fucking ecstatic about this shit.

>>181268497
so this video using dev game footage pretty much confirms they're removing upgrade cards as individual cards that need to be linked. everytime a card is opened to upgrade it lists every possible thing that can be placed on it

>>181268081
man they REALLY inflate the numbers at agora but it makes sense since the cap is so low

>>181264098
Sauce on image? tried a reverse search. Need that ass in my life.

>>181270974
paragon r34

>>181270974
>>181271323
hopefully we get a rip on some good waifus soon instead of all this countess shit

>>181269561
I hope thats a toggle, will be annoying as fuck

Good night, /parag/. I sleep now to dream of a game without Phase on the roster.

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>>181271726
(you)

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>tfw no adc in our team
>tfw Rampage is our """adc""" supported by Phase

>>>/v/382357257

>>181273258
Is there another version of this or is this the original one?

>>181273258
countess isn't even a top 5 in the paragon waifu list

>>181274221
>Serath
>Belica
>Sparrow
Are top3
Can we agree so far?

But who comes then if not Countess?

>>181274665
dekker

>>181274665
dekker, morrigesh gadget, muriel
all better

>>181274665
agree completely with those 3. dekker and aurora would round out the top 5.

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so, what's wrong with Shinbi?

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>>181268497
Devoting 4 people to stop one hero from splitpushing adds an interesting dynamic to gameplay and really makes your decisions in draft matter. We've playtested Iggy's rework for 3 and a half years now so I can assure you he is totally balanced.

>get smurf to plat
>howie builds 3 12 point micro nukes as starter cards
everytime i feel bad for making smurfs im reminded why its the only way to enjoy this game

>>181278248
>>181268497
>I have literally never wish ill will or harm unto somone until Cameron

that faggot is ruining the games potential if they aren't going to fire him I want him dead so bad, I mean this is ridiculous.

https://agora.gg/profile/2166649/Sunset%20Shimmer.

>>181280074
fuck, meant to write that i fucking do well with wraith all the time and get absolutely autistic teammates

>>181274665
shinbi because she loves to suck dick

>>181277518
Probably another gruxcube situatio

Of the nine heroes released after Crunch, who is the best jungler?

>>181282043
serath but all of them suck at it now

Guys, how do I become a mor efficient sevarog early game? I seem to almost die to even three minions until I hit level 5.

>>181283545
learn to kite

>>181282043
man imagine when we start to see powercreeped junglers

>>181286695
wait for the grux and ramp reworks

>>181288009
that's not power creep but I await those either way as well as the potential of a new OP jungler it has to be the next hero though since Aug 8 with be "Everything" update

>>>181268497
in 42 we're looking at making each hero what they need to be like with khaimera we wanted him to pounce people that's why he got the 5 sec update

IT TOOK YOU IDIOTS 42 UPDATES TO REALIZE HEROES KITS AREN'T SUITED FOR THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR THE HERO?

ffs this fucking imbecile dev team man.

>>181283545
Just use Oasis Siphon, it has regen and lifesteal, it's basically an op siphon if your jungler is growth

it's basically the growth Stalker's Siphon, you shouldn't have too much problems even with v.40 I don't bother kiting as Khai, Sev or Ramp because that siphon returns to much to you.

>>181289172
to be fair they fired superville so cam hasn't had the whole time period to fuck up the game

>>181289172
>>181290942
What heroes could possibly not be playing how they're already designed?
Did I not read correctly or something?

>>181292435
i'm going to go out on a limb and say they intended grim to be playable

>>181292825
Fair enough

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>>181290942
>to be fair they fired superville

Is this an actual fact?

>>181294123
his twitter and linkdin both got changed and dont mention epic or paragon at all and he hasn't done anything related to the game for almost a year

>>181299614
That's more stale than the average /v/ meme.

>>181299783
what'd i miss

>>181299917
That penis image the Actual Graphics shitposter uses.

>>181300106
I missed it, what's this "actual graphics" meme?

>>181300250
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/%22actual%20graphics%22/type/op/

>>181300106
ahh, the andy sixx of /v/. speaking of that, how long has the shit log thing been going on

>>181300436
man that guy is fucking nuts. is he in this gen?

>>181300436
is this what cam does in the time he isn't thinking of ways to ruin the game

>>181301015
say whatever you want about the bush meme but at least its better than that shit

>>181300436
I'm glad I missed the live cringe of this shit

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perfect waifu bump

>tfw you're dominating as Greystone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9lVjZg-Kg

good night /parag/ may your kwang tethers be true and your waifus bush extra fluffy this weekend

>>181264098
Good hero for noobs?

>>181312213
new to mobas entirely or just new to this game?

>>181312213
morigesh, greystone, dekker, gideon, khaimera, narbash, phase, rampage.

All pretty easy to pick up, a few have higher skill ceilings.

>>181312535
Havent played mobas in a while, so yeah, I'm assuming I go back to noobland.
>>181312587
Is this list good?

>>181312587
I actually wouldn't suggest using Gideon as a noob; his ult is just a free kill if the player isn't smart about it.
Gadget is a better introductory mid.

redpill me on Shinbi

I have literally never seen her played but the one time I got a response about her it was
>she's pretty good but hard to play

All I need to know is, in terms of usefulness/power, is she at least strong as Gideon (my most played mid). If yes I'll learn her cause she looks fun

just played phase for the first time

i felt like i could've had zero items and still been one of the most useful people on the team

>>181313190
I actually played gadget as my first char, period, when I picked up paragon.
I didn't like how she had basically no escape. This was before the movespeed buff, but still, I feel like her lack of escapability might fug over new players

>>181283545
>get stalker siphon
>get far white(white closest to river buff)
>take green
>take close white(white closest to fountain)
>take safe white(white closest to safe lane), green should pop on this camp
>go back and clear single off close white
>go get single on river white
>that will get you level 3
>exactly 3 min to clear so you can be ready to get river buff
>depending on buff/opportunities, gank or go clear offlane whites
>farm/invade/be an asshole/gank untill 6 cp
>back and sell siphon, get ward + madspore
build your fucking stacks and kite correctly and you should have no issue with sev early

>>181269561
Maybe they just put lots of unlinked upgrades in the deck, you can do that normally.

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>first game today
>Morigesh loses connection at level 2
>Countess dies four times then says "I leabe now guts sorry"
>my pro support lets they offlaner chew me up in front of them while they type out paragraphs about the disconnecting Morigesh
>our jungler shows up to miss their cc's and steal the gold buff

>second game is smurfs vs my team of retards, including the offlane Twinblast who opens every fight with his Ventilate
>no one pushes lanes, it's just 40 minutes of slowly retreating furhter into our own territory as the enemy team deathballs
I have not enjoyed this game in at least 20 matches, no exaggeration.

>>181316819
She can be used very well, but that's true of any hero. There are characters that fill her role (elusive, assassin, etc) better than her and she is difficult to use because you need to hit your abilities enough to build stacks for your ult, but also have those abilities weaken the enemy to the point that using the ult is actually worthwhile. She's a mediocre character with a steep learning curve, and was only added to please Koreans (completely unnecessary, since Kwang is actually a fantastic hero).

>>181319485
Yup. Broken.

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>player failed to join the lobby, draft aborted
>player failed to select a hero, draft aborted
>waiting for players to join the game 1/10...
>Estimated: 20mins+

holy FUCK

whats this game about?

I may have looked at it in the past but didn't remember due to lack of interest.

>>181320968
It is a mober. The "story" seems to be your typical battle royale for ultimate space prize (tm).

>>181320968
It is about seeing how long epic can go without listening to any community feedback about phase.

>>181320968
It's about who has the best bush.

Serath wins everytime

>>181292825
The only problem with Grim is that his orb ability is too unpredictable and his ult does too little damage and has too long animation. He used to be one of the best ADCs.

>>181295350
Wasn't the game like his pet project or something? I don't really pay attention to devs. If so, kicking him out is really a douchebag move.

>>181301015
Used to, don't know about now. Fucker used to rant about plenty of bulllshit things, he's completely deranged. Probably the strongest case of actual autism I've ever seen.

>>181316819
I heard she isn't very good at mid, my friend used to play her a lot(and did it well) and always took her jungle.

Bamp

Alright, been thinking about wraith. Back before AoI I used to run a 5 stack that would start 1-2-1 with a jg. There really isn't a reason for a support in carry lane if the carry is freezing. Especially so for carries like TB who spike early. Being alone lets them get that spike that much quicker
sooo
>phase/wraith mid
Phase has stupid clear so it would cover for his biggest weakness and splitting cp/xp doesn't fuck with him much as his shit is good as soon as you get it
>tb safe
if you can't solo lane with tb you probably shouldn't playing carry
>fill off and jg with some other meta shit

Is wraith's utility worth running 1-2-1? The mid pressure seems pretty strong even without a wraith.

>>181327749
Possibly, but only with a coordinated team. Tactics like this work well only if everyone knows their part.

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>tfw too brainlet and lazy to learn how decks work
>just using the default one everytime

>>181331694
Just search for a deck in youtube or google.

>>181332223
I've done that, but I don't have 3/4 of the cards they suggest. I've bought random cards but I never get the ones I need. I also lack crafting materials.

>>181332754
Then just add similar cards instead. I do that all the time.

It will work much better than the default deck.

Ebin is gonna kill Paragon. Watch.

>>181333432
I need Healer Token for most of the builds I've seen posted online, and I just can't get it. I also don't have any similar cards.
Ffs epic, there's nothing wrong with having a card system instead of the items every moba has, just don't make me grind like an autist to make half decent builds.

>>181334967
Healer token is just an early item though, you don't need it for your full build.

>>181335208
>trying to offlane without healer token

>>181322223
has ribbit realized nothing changed yet? i know they were all circlejerking over her "nerf" so unless thats changed ebin isn't going to do shit considering they didn't want to change her at all

>>181334638
my body is ready desu

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>>181322223
>>181334638
https://twitter.com/Paragon/status/880921068684312576
>Updating heroes is a very complicated process. We needs weeks and weeks of data and have to allow people to figure out how to counter things. If we just go in nerfing and buffing every other day its just not good for the state of the game please understand why Phase is not being changed
>Oh fuck Wraith is shit buff him up hurry before no one buys the skins.

>>181337420
It isn't in the default decks either, so it's not like you have a choice. You have to work with what you got.

>>181338737
"Countering" Phase: How does one do this without a party?

Build Thickblood/Power Chord? Yay, 1/5 of her stupid kit has been kinda countered.

Play Riktor to maybe pull Phase or her stupid link out of range? I love the guy, but that pull is not worth it when I could just be a better Phase.

Use a cleanse item on the blind or root? Lol no, it's just gonna happen again in 10 seconds.

Build Determination to heal off of the root? As a damage character, I'm losing a lot of power/attack speed just for that.

Try to kill her and the guy she's ulting as they kill your tower/inhibitor/orb prime? Good luck.

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>>181341000
All you have to do is devote all 5 team members to killing a support while being blinded, rooted and having that support use active cards and having their team kill you. Our internal testers have figured it out why can't you?

>>181323395
>>181320298
>>181316819
If anything most of my success with Shinbi (level 8) has been in the offlane.
Once she has her abilities to mid-game (assuming you've built your deck correctly for power) her wave clear and split pushing is great.
She's not a hero for teamfights imo so in this meta of the game that makes her pushed aside for heroes who can

>>181342272
She used to be an amazing jungle that no one respected up until the jungle changes. Now she has to offlane because she is trash in mid.

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>>181341000
>>181341545
While Aurora and Riktor are good way to single out Phase it might be worthwhile to focus on split pushing and less teamfights.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how a match should be played exactly with Phase in the mix.
I'm not saying the game doesn't need balancing, but Phase is one of the only heroes that dynamically changes the way that the match needs to be played.
Furthermore, is inhouse testing has found ways to counter Phase, why won't they tell the community how they've done it?
At least the Overwatch Dev's blatantly said which heroes to choose to counter Bastion before players got good.

>>181345491
>focus on split pushing
>while Phase and friends are kicking your team's face in and getting two towers for your maybe one
Late game, on a map this small, avoiding teamfights doesn't last long if your opponents have a level of map awareness, and the deathball can take towers faster than any splitpush.

if everyone who plays sevarog and steel died horribly i would be the happiest person in the world literally no other characters in this game attract the absolute shitters those two do. i would take 20 1v5 khais over these retards

>>181348480
People who play those two are the same folks who play all the others, it just shows more.

So I played Iggy yesterday /parag/. I didn't go well at all. I was able to play two games after countless draft dodges and accussations of purposefully throwing. He really does need a rework his lane holding ability is strong however when you get to the late game you are just an assist machine.

>>181349832
>When you remind yourself of times when Iggy was an unstoppable beast and one of the most annoying heroes back on Legacy

>when you realize how much better this game would be without #every3weeks
Characters could have enough time be balanced, the game wouldn't be unplayable every time a new hero comes out, people wouldn't be forced to play around someone who wants to play support wraith or jungle wukong. This game has so much potential that the dev team constantly ruins

All right /parag/, I'm in for some cringe(or perhaps not).
Post your OC hero ideas. I know you got them

>>181313043
Safelane: Revenant
Support: Phase
Mid: Gadget
Jungle: Khaimera
Offlane: Greystone

Is Tainted Magick Greystone a meme?

>>181353442
Preaching to the choir man

the best we can hope for is Aug 8, they change this "play your way" bullshit and actually start telling people

NO you see this character is x role because of kit , idgaf if x card exist it will not make your hero good at x

The last community corner gave a twinge of hope for this because some idiot was talking about DURABLE Aurora and they said they need to work on the hero descriptions and such.

>>181355186
Alright get this....its like kallari....BUT red and black colored. Also its got a katana

>>181356145
COOOOOOL
Does it have a teleports behind you ability?

>>181355186
So i have this idea for this one fucker who can disable all abilities besides basic attack from all enemies near him with his ult. He would be a support. Would be a counter to Phase.

Also, this woman who is a hot firefighter with thick bush. She is also a supporter. She can sprinkle water on her allies and these allies are then immune against fire attacks for the next seconds. Will be pretty useful to counter the Iggy meta which is coming soon. So that you don't have to 4vs1 Iggy to stand a chance against him.

And finally a guy who can switch between Tank and adc with his ult. Really powerful character. Will be the new meta. He is also really cool looking. Maybe some kind of cyborg or so, with sunglasses.

>>181355413
this game is a meme just go with it

>>181357415
I unironically like the first idea, although his other abilities would have to be kind of underwhelming for him to not be overpowered.

>>181357415
So, basically Riktor's silence but bigger

>>181355186
minion king
real big boy who is on a throne and carried by minions
his moves are throwing minions, converting enemy minions to your own team, reinforcing minions, his ult would be some bullshit like call in a wave of minions or something broken.

Stronk with minions useless without them.

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>>181359630
Dear God, how horrifying

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>>181359887
i guess basically like

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>>181358197
>although his other abilities would have to be kind of underwhelming for him to not be overpowered.
Why would you think that?

>>181361159
We really need Cameron edits similar to Todd edits. Especially angry and incognito ones, these are the best.

G'night, /parag/.
Bump for good luck.

>>181359630
>>181360403
Topkek, i love this idea.

wew

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>>181359630
They already tried that once, had to change it after awhile

>>181369041
I miss this design, especially when it was bright pink even earlier.

>>181369041
His face looks cute.

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>all of latin america is banned forever
>all waifus in the game receive lewd skins of your choosing
>cam is fired
what do you pick /parag/

>>181371207
Is there an option of making it a good, deep, balanced game or at least bringing back Legacy?
Out of those given I guess 3, since I would prefer to simply have more r34 to lewd skins and as an Eurofag I don't give a fuck about Latinos.

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>>181355186
I want a spider that climb walls

>>181371437
our fine muslim friends may replace latin america with russians. also keep in mind you can be as lewd with the skins as you want. create your own r34 anon

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>>181372042
>mfw we literally have muslims on EU

How does steel do up in diamond+? Im wrecking people with him in plat right now. Rally the troops is my spicy tech. With that and radiant mantle you can split and take towers faster than anyone would believe a steel .
Plus that sweet buff to my adc and jungle in teamfights

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>>181372042
>>181372193
Not if you're Polish
Ruskies aren't so bad in Paragon and there isn't that much of them. Especially comparing to, let's say DotA2.

>>181372193
That's a big sword for him.

I-is he Kwang in real life?

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>>181373169
>Not if you're Polish
I think he was talking about the EU servers, not the countries. Because muslim countries count to Europe i guess. Or at least i keep seeing these arabic letters in Paragon.

>yfw you can keep the muslims out of your country, but not out of Paragon

why are there still no bikini skins

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>when she finds out you cheated on her with Belica

>>181377226
we need some jap characters so they start pumping the porn out.

>Wraith every fucking game
>Wraith offlane, Revenant+Phase safe, Serath jungle, and Countess mid
Why does this shit even happen.

>>181381576
make a smurf its the only way to survive #every3weeks

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>>181305473

which girl gives the best head?

>>181377226
whore

Does anyone have a viable steel deck? I seem to have a massive case of autism because every time I try to make a tank steel it just never works. What am I doing wrong?

>>181386341
>Serath: gentle and loving, not very adventurous but always makes sure she pleases. best dsls
>Countess: feisty and domineering, the kind who always tries to slide a finger or two in there while shes at work
>Belica: unwinds from her stressful career by being a complete sub whore. running mascara, gagging, rivers of spit the whole nine yards
>Sparrow: prissy rich girl, tries to get it over with as quick as possible
>Aurora: bitchy and teasing, edges constantly feeling of relief more than joy once its over
>Dekker: only in it for the scientific data, doesn't stop after 1 round as she needs to make a comprehensive report
>Gadget: goes out of her way to please due to insecurities of being the fugly nerd chick. you ask and she'll do it
>Muriel: secret robot tech that japan itself hasn't even thought of
>Kallari: perfectly serviceable but you feel like its another night alone since she's in the shadow plain the whole time
>Fey: nothing special but the shrooms she gives you beforehand make up for it
>Shinbi: thinks its a microphone and tries to sing into it the whole time
>Yin: repressed asian syndrome, see Belica but she calls you "daddy" the whole time
>Morigesh: like the Fey, nothing special but the shrooms make up for it. unlike the Fey her shrooms kill you after she's done
>Phase: never actually does anything, uses her physic powers to make you think she did so she can continue to browse tumblr in peace

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>>181389996
>Morigesh: like the Fey, nothing special but the shrooms make up for it. unlike the Fey her shrooms kill you after she's done

The utter disrespect my waifu receives here is disgusting

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>>181390701
>>181389996
>>181386341
retarded

>>181371437
>>181371207

Yeah it's called firing Cam

>>181390701
>>181392257
but your waifu got the best ice cream flavor

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>>181392257
Wait why would you call me retarded? I'm the sole lover of Mori in /parag/

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>>181355186
We're due for a straight up Katana hero, Countess doesn't count.
I'm talking, Seven Samurai, Iai-slashing, Sparta-kicking, Trap-door out-of-nowhere for escape-ing, Blade-Sheathing after every basic attack combo Katana wielder

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>>181377226
This outfit gives her more hips than she deserves
UNF
N
F

We need lewd mods NAO

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>>181395584
A female samurai like Baiken would be cool

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>>181378841
>Mommy have mercy

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>>181395815
My sentiments exactly

>>181396264
She truly is best GG girl

>>181386341
they need something to suck on, which one would have the best futa cock

>>181396693
It would be either Mori or Gadget

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>>181396693
>the best futa cock
The only waifu we can suspect of her physical being actually changing
inb4 mommy is an angry futa domina with a fiery bush

>>181396915
Pussy so hot it burns your dick. Yes please

>>181396915
we even have a setup for this >>181378841
this game NEEDS lewd Cameron must be stopped he's ruining the game before its even gone mainstream

>>181396390
Damn right she is
https://youtu.be/VFNQtvI0K9M

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>>181378841
>>181398312
>Serath and Sparrow from similar-ish time period and mannerisms
>Greystone locks Sparrow up and Serath pays her a visit every now and then to "discipline" her
>Serath: Kind and mother-like demeanor, but extremely territorial and easily jealous
This can go places
>Cont. from https://pastebin.com/ZaedWcma
>Gets ported to wherever Sparrow or Belica is because reasons
>Finds out Belica's been tampering with her self-proclaimed property
>Uses her sovereign to force Belica to show her where Sparrow is
>All three waifu's end up in same room
>Jealousy and shenanigans ensue bush gets eaten
Is Narrative anon here?
We need to get on this asap
Also why is it that Sparrow gets taken advantage of/"bullied" by every other waifu?

>>181399237
>Also why is it that Sparrow gets taken advantage of/"bullied" by every other waifu?
i think it fits her character of being runaway royalty. and my penis approves of it anyway we need someone to write or draw plz a sequel

>>181388436
make one of those meme ability armor = power builds. if you dont want to do that just copy a tanky greystone build since they're both offlaners and then just pick greystone because hes way better than steel

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>>181389996
>Muriel
>Kallari
>Phase
>Morigesh
>Shinbi
made me kek

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>>181398312
>this game NEEDS lewd Cameron
Already on it

>>181404315
his dsls have bush he really is /our guy/

>>181305473
BURNING
BUSH

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>>181405258
>when you overcome atheism and realize Goddesses are real

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>>181364512

>kwang main
>sev looks cool
miss every sev root because kwang tethers are life and muscle memory is a bitch. I look like a wood player in every sev game.

>>181407084
die to white camps and ult people to safety and you'll fit in great with every other sev

>25+ minute diamond queue
>guys dodges because he can't play fucking wraith
>back to purgatory
I hate this game so fucking much. I have started reading during my queues and I have finished a book and half in the past week of playing. My games are shorter than my damn queue. Dodging because kallari/iggy nonsense is cool, dodging because you couldn't play x should be punished with perma ban

>>181348480
I thought sev pickers were generally bro tier though

>>181408767
speaking of sev picks
https://agora.gg/game/fdf205d7bc41406faa2c6b74c412d111
I hate people who think it is funny to play off meta heroes like shit. Also why the fuck does this playerbase just hate taking instruction? If half the motherfuckers in my games just listened even a little I feel like I would be in master already.

bedtime bump

>>181410454
>https://agora.gg/game/fdf205d7bc41406faa2c6b74c412d111

everyone on this team has too many deaths

also I can't say I've ever run into a bad sev before. Sure, some of them are potato at hitting roots but they all have great ults and can harass like no tomorrow

>>181389996
God damn it, not again

>>181412971
yeah the majority of my deaths were late game trying to make last ditch plays. We were losing and I took risky 1v2/1v3 to try to swing things. Didn't manage to carry. That or good dives followed by my team being confused and watching me flail for 20 seconds instead of using the initiation to win the fight.

Are there just like 3 dudes keeping this fucker alive?

>>181416887
Of course.

There are only 6 different posters in this thread, 3 are yuros and 3 are muricans. So 50% are sleeping now.

serath is ugly, her name doesn't even deserve capitals.

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>>181389996
just imagine phase brainfucking you every once in a while instead of just tricking you

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>>181418814

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Pre game Bamp

Have they mentioned any potential changes to mm? I am on minute 35 of this fucking queue following a dodge that took 42 minutes to match. This shit has become dmv simulator. Is the only option to smurf?

>>181423357
you're fucked until a proper ranked comes out. matchmaking just isn't built to handle anything above low diamond/high plat

>>181416887
>>181417173
Don't joke, I still remember when during the very first of these threads I was almost certainly the sole Eurofag here, and spent entire days just desperately bumping to keep it alive.

How jewy is paragons?

>>181429864
Not very, unless you want to get jewed.

>>181429864
It's absolutely not jewy. Nothing jewy in it. Paragon is fucking based.

hmm, i forgot i had made an account on this game few months ago. also forgot i uninstalled it before i got the japanese pornstar... i mean popstar. a shame

What was shinbi's game breaking bug that they had to disable her to fix?

>>181432651
She got even more slutty and started to run around Monolith naked.

>>181432651
Apparently if you died while ulting you would respawn with no abilities. I have no idea if this is true, just what I had heard.

>>181429864
You can get skins randomly from being awarded loot crates/keys/logging in daily
Or you can speed up the process yourself by buying them.
The jew part comes in when they release sexy ass hooded sparrow skins in loot crates ONLY

I played one game and won, /parag/.
Going to stop playing now because I dropped 100 Elo in two days, so I'm not tempting fate.

>>181432651
>>181434721
>>181436076
>log in
>get some chests
>end up with a surplus of coins and buy a key
>blue default Shinbi variant
It's a double slap in the face because, even though I will never ever play Shinbi, I can't even look at the skin on the hero page while her broken ass is disabled.

So what do you guys do during those slow burn games where you are losing horribly but the enemy is taking forever to just finish the shit? And not "try to come back" bullshit, I am talking the games that are clearly fucking decided but your team is too stupid to f6 it.

>>181437868
Push with my teammates a lane, in the hope that we get ganked and die or that the enemies take our inhibitors while we are pushing.

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>offlane Wraith
I just don't know about Paragon. Its not even fun anymore, and every match is just a Russian roulette of "what retarded bs am I gonna find on my team THIS time?"

>>181437868
Kill minions

>>181439024
>Its not even fun anymore, and every match is just a Russian roulette of "what retarded bs am I gonna find on my team THIS time?"
I'm feeling this too, though at the same time I'm wary of the "absolutely everything will change in AUgust" line I keep hearing: I get the feeling that what little fun I do get out of the game will be destroyed if Epic decide to water it down further.

>>181439024

That sounds like every moba.

Yeah, I will see you folks in august. Putting this shit back on break. Three 35 minute queues all trolled with iggy picks and people trying to force dodged lobbies. It can be funny but not when I have been trying to get a match for the past hour and a half.
This is on top of the last game I played being ruined by fucking phase. I hate what she makes this game. I hate that my favorite hero, sev, just can't play into her at all. No hero can.
And for a mm that takes its sweet fucking time teams are a total shit-shoot for skill. Epic is actively ruining this game and it sucks because it can be really fun. Anyways, good luck in your matches anons. I can't slog through the bullshit anymore.
>mommy bush is best bush

Who was the last good addition? Serath? Just by virtue of the fact that she was garbage on release instead of top tier for a month like every hero after her (except shinbmonkeywraith)

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>>181441619
as i keep trying to tell everyone
S
M
U
R
F
>shit team?
dont care
>bad comp?
dont care
>someone dodges?
next queue is less than 2 minutes
>wanna try out a dumb build or new character?
no one bitching at you for being 0-4 at 12 minutes and even if there is why care?

i played in mid to high plat up until the age of shittellect ruined the game and came close to uninstalling multiple times before then because of the 10 minute queues iggy pickers and having to play endless 5 stacks anytime you get higher than 1620ish. now i made a smurf and just have fun everytime i play the game. someone with patrician bush taste such as yourself should do the same. make mommy proud and make a smurf today

>>181439873
The August update is Cam making the game his own and into what he thinks it shoud be. Remember that this game was Superville's baby and for the past year they've been working off his groundwork, the map was the first big change after they got rid of him and they basically started remaking the game from the ground up since then. This game has honestly had a really fucked up development considering they went from buy in alpha build to open beta, fired the lead dev and then basically went back to an alpha all while allowing people to play the game the entire time.

>>181443523
I guess we'll see if we're still here come August. I was reluctant to blame Cameron for a lot of shit, but it's been getting harder, and each week the Community Corner just erodes the reluctance a little further.

so we're gonna be getting some 4th of july bikini skins on tuesday right

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>Yin has the ranged of a caster with the DPS of a melee character
>also has TWO get-out-of-jail-free abilities
>and a god-tier ult
How is this fair?

>>181451493
Fortunately most people seem not to realise this for some reason, I see her played quite rarely.

>>181451493
at least there's several flavors of bullshit when it comes to adcs, whether it be yin, rev, or twinblap

>>181451493
Back on Legacy I'd groan seeing Iggy, Khai, Gideon and a couple more in draft.
On Monolith, it's just Yin.

>>181452051
For me it's just Mori and maybe Howitzer
Back on Legacy definitely Khai and Iggy, probably a few more which I don't remember.

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>>181451493
Just CC her, she's a shit tier hero

>people playing Twinblast
>STILL opening up with ventilate
Why is this consistently a "thing" with shitters?

>>181452510
Ventilate is his ult, right? I've never seen anyone doing that, why would they even consider that a good strategy?!

>>181452198
Mori is always annoying if I'm mid, but the only time she gets me truly worried in draft is if we have a Countess mid: at that point you'd be fully justified in draft dodging.

>>181452635
No idea, but I see it more often than I'd want to (ie at all).

>>181452510
>people playing Twinblast
he's a qt that's why

>>181451493
Yin is trash anon

>>181451493
t. silver

>>181451493
>not just melting her with /ourguy/ greystone or /ourgirl/

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>mfw i am exactly between silver and gold and can't get out of it

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>>181454224
>greystone
>/ourguy/

Alright I think I'm retarded. How do I jungle? Do I need to buy a bunch of tokens instead of pots? I can barely get through 4 minions before I have to go back, and that's not enough for a level, or cxp for a card level.

>>181459525
buy a siphon card at start and look up youtube vids on kiting post v41

>>181459752
I never even thought of a siphon card cause I always used lazarus key. Guess that makes a hell of a lot more sense though... Shit, I might actually be retarded. Thanks anon.

>>181459398
there was probably supposed to be a comma there

>>181459525
Learn to kite, don't just stand around. This makes a much bigger difference than any starting card would.

>Countess offlane
>Kallari "every lane" what means no lane
>Wraith midlane
>Wukong offlane
TOP FUCKING KEK

What is wrong with silver shitters?

bumperino

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mommy bump

ded

Bump: 33 1/3

>>181466804
Whoa, mommy is so hot.

>>181459398
i'm an illiterate girl there should be a comma there.

>>181459398
Why does Kwang look so weird when running without his sword?

Try jumping while running while without the sword. Looks really stupid and funny because they fucked up the jumping animation.

Is there an actual difference between strike and cast cards now that everything's just "power"?

>>181472047
No

>>181470370
omg r u rly a grill

>>181475142
Yes, i'm maining Phase.

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>>181475265
>phase main
dropped

>>181475142
i look and sound like a girl

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enough of serath. look at me, im the waifu now

>>181479657
You can't force it. That's why Serath will always be our number one.

>>181480352
>not accepting sev as your one true Bush waifu


What are you gay ?

>>181477284
Sooo... is your penis feminine or what do you mean?

>>181480801
I have to admit.. today i saw the emote of Sev in which he is clapping, and he has some really sexy hands.

Also, he is based because i played my first Paragon game with him.

>>181481210
Sevarog would give the best hand job imo

>>181470370
(you)

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>>181481278
Yeah that's possible.

But maybe it would be too rough and tight.

He has to have a strong grip to swing this huge hammer around.

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>>181480801
I'd give sev my soul for his 140th stack <3

>>181481763
You could just use his cloak as a buffer, im sure he wouldn't mind.

>>181480809
feminine

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>>181481780
A-anon, how l-l-lewd!

>>181480801
Yeee

>all the sev talk
>got death mask skin from a crate
nice

downloading paragon for the first time, shit guys this thing takes forever. Is it like this for future patches too?
Even the 40GB torrent of Dragon Age took less time.

>>181484529
I'd let sev siphon the semen out of my femdick <3

>>181485657
Future patches do take quite a while. It's a well-known problem.

why are people picking wraith

>>181488813
For the same reasons people pick every new hero.

>>181488813
"OMG I LUV WHITE DEADPOOL HES SO COOUL"

>>181488813
I like his mana sustainability and ease of kc. in mid. His real issue is lack of a proper escape until late match and no real mob clear besides spamming a skill that's still on a 2s c ooldown.

>>181488813
>>181490131
wait until the voicelines are finally added and wraith and chadblast get picked every game because of their epic snarky humor

So I just hit 50, and after building up my card library, I finally have 1 of every card, and duplicates of a lot. I went through and made tons of duplicates for all upgrades, and started building decks. And let me say holy SHIT it is nice. I figured it would just be a minor difference but the change from default to a custom deck is INSANE.

>>181491279
>change from default to custom deck is insane
you're just figuring this out at 50?

I thought most people figured that out at like level 10 at the latest

>be australian
>try to play a game
>wait for 40 minutes

I literally could have played another assfaggots game in this time.

>>181494249
Day time queues are a bit shit.

>>181491832
I knew they would be better, but I didn't have enough cards to get a good deck together and I've always been told by everyone I play with that having a piecemeal deck is shit and to just stick to default. I went from averaging like 6 kills a game as greystone to 15. It's insane how many matches in a row I've won now.

>>181494739
i wouldn't even play a character if i had to use a default deck, they are absolutely garbage.

you can make better decks than the default purely by using the level 0 base cards.

>>181494739
>I've always been told by everyone I play with that having a piecemeal deck is shit and to just stick to default
You play with some bad people then. Apart from supports it's rare a specific card is needed for a deck, you can just use other cards with similar stats.

>>181495205
Yeah, i'm now realizing it. I was always the better player of the group, playing offlane and jungle, but now I've pretty much soared past them. I've gained just under 300 elo today alone, the game is so much more fun now that I have good cards

>>181495612
>just under 300 elo today alone

i only earn like 7-9 elo per win/loss

you've played 30-40 games in 24 hours?

>>181495758
I was at 800 elo and was jumping up 20 for the first 5 or 6 matches, then slowly decaying gains from there

>>181496347
what's the starting elo?

i thought 1200 was the base

Why is Iggy a troll pick?

>>181504181
cause he's shit

>i'm first pick
>I'm gonna go carry, say so in chat
>no complaints, no opposing calls
>second pick snipes my pick
>dude pick someone else
>other roles called for except mid
>i'm a terrible mid
>turns out there's a 3 man group and one other pug with me
>pug goes support, i'm stuck mid
>whatever, gideon it is
>get in game and they immediately start criticizing my build, then cursing at me and calling me a nigger
never before have I felt such rage that I started feeding, but in that match, I did. I went 0-46. Suck a nut you fucking faggots, at least communicate with pings.

>>181506059
Post agora link for this

>>181506174
how would I find it? I play on ps4 so I suck anyway but how would I find the match, my name doesn't show up on agora when I look

>>181506220
Type your PSN name

>>181506260
That's what I mean I tried but it just leads to an account that definitely isn't mine, different name.

>>181506287
Did you tried it on your phone? Because that's exactly what happens when i'm trying to find my profile on my phone.

When i use the playstation or my pc it works fine.

>>181506287
Do you have an epic account? Maybe look at your last played games in the menu and search one of the other people on your team.

I just installed and played a few rounds.

I've just been playing Lt.Belica because she's a qt Pugna with a stun and mana void.
I've done OK offlane mid and support. But I get the impression that I'm just in shit tiers because every game goes about the same. Anyone have any tips?
Anywhere I can go to get builds?

>>181506571
I did try on my phone, actually. Should probably try on my pcn ow that i'm sitting at it.
>>181506594
I made one but I used the same name as my PSN for it. It's just a totally different account with about four hundred more games than I've ever played as wins alone.

>>181506790
Agora.gg has builds, pubs are shitters so get used to it or start finding the better players from each match to play with.

>>181490307
His real issue is he does no fucking damage whatsoeverand is a complete waste of a char slot when you could have had someone useful.

how much mana regen do you guys build on your gideons?

My final items for Gideon has basically no mana regen and i'm always out

>>181491279
You've waited THIS long until you started to make custom decks?! Holy shit, how did you even manage to reach lvl 50 with shitty default decks? You do realise that you can have like 1/3 of all cards and build with what you got and it still will be better than defaults, right? Fuck man, I just can't believe someone would seriously wait for this long

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>>181496636
Topkek, he went down from the starting elo because he was so shit.

>>181506790
Paragon is a magical game in which your elo doesn't affect the skill of fellow players at all, at least until ranked. Shitters are apparently even in platin. Anyway, it will probably get slightly better, if you're new you might want to read the thread's faq for some basic information. Have fun with the game anon

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As you can probably clearly see, I've never played Aurora before.

Is this alright for a final build as a jungle Aurora? I got siphons and early game cards not pictured.

>>181508754
Or maybe they're going by Paragon.gg, which has a lower Elo base.
>frogposter
I see. Carry on.

>>181509392
>jungle Aurora
Offlane.
Stasis seems pointless considering she's probably the most maneuverable character in the game: if you're caught with the reaction time to use stasis, you can use one of your other built in escapes. Alternatively, dump it for a blink: it's an escape and it can help initiate your ult better/ leave you with your charge and simulacrum for an escape afterwards.

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>>181509535
Maybe you are right. But it would be funnier if not, you fucker.

>>181509652
I play sev in the offlane and currently in the jungle and I want a jungler that isn't a walking wall of defensive stats like how Grux, Sev, Crunch and Khai are built.

I was going to jungle Shinbi but she's dead at the moment and it seems like no one's allowed to play Kallari these days.

>>181509827
Play Serath jungle.

People will tell you it's not working, but mommy can play any role.

>>181509827
That's kind of the jungler's/ offlaner's role, though. Anyway, you can build them however you want: Grux and Khai can be built with some armour and the rest in power, same with Kwang. If you absolutely must have a squishier hero in the jungle, I'd take Kallari: she's not much more of a jungler than Aurora or Serath, but she's fun as fuck. Also, Shinbi is shit, and not a jungler: junglers need some sort of CC for ganks, which Shinbi doesn't get naturally.

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>>181510020
>>181509652
what about this for final offlane or jungle build?

quenching swapped for toxi late

>>181510154
>that's kind of the jungle/offlaner's role though
tell that to Wraith

>>181509827
kallari is fine. If they want to dodge that just means less shitters to worry about who can't appreciate how fucking broken she is in the right hands.

please for hte love of god play a few co op vs ai matches to warm up with her first

Who's a good alternative support to phase? Narbash, dekker, right?

>level 14
>everyone's maxed their cards
>the wukong is still jungling nonstop
>we already had a jungler

>>181510248
>kallari is fine. If they want to dodge that just means less shitters to worry about who can't appreciate how fucking broken she is in the right hands.
That doesn't even make sense.

We dodge Calories because we already experienced that most people who play her don't know what to do and end up doing nothing useful.

If you are good with her, fine. But that doesn't change the fact that almost every Kallari i've seen in my elo ist shit. So why shouldn't i dodge the lobby?

>>181510221
Better.

>>181510467
Yup. They're the only alternatives, really.

>>181509827
>>181510154
Is grux really a viable tank? He always seemed more of a dmg dealer, maybe even glass cannon. That's how I always built him and it worked. I honestly don't think I've ever seen anyone building him tanky

>>181510782
Damn. I liked muriel back in the day, hopefully they fix her up in the goodliest way one day. Thanks mate, I'll give narbash a go round. I keep getting yelled at for being shit at phase and accidentally flinging when I mean to switch.

>>181510467
>>181510782
What happened to Muriel? Never played her, but she used to be a good and often picked support. Did they heavily nerf her or something?

>>181510960
Pretty much. She's been neglected more than actually nerfed, but it's just as bad.

>>181510854
Tank grux with blink is awesome for initiating late game. You blink in, hit the ult stun and start whaling on people. You just need enough damage so people don't ignore you.

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>tfw I still play Muriel and Fey because they're the cutest and my favorite supports still.
One day, they'll buff them into relevance.

I hit level 20 and finally have a complete deck for one character in every lane. They're probably not the best choices but I like them.
>jungle: sevarog
>mid: gideon
>offlane: greystone
>support:phase (obviously)
>carry:revenant
also have a deck for twinkblast

what do you all think? Any characters I should replace for another? What should I work on next as a short-term goal. Buying more deck slots and setting up more chars in the role I best like?

>>181513780
I love Belica in mid. Once you have her combos down it's easy.

>>181514379
I tried her a couple times but I was pretty bad. Most of the decks I see are pretty different but I have a lot of the cards already when I made some for my gideon deck, I'll give her a try with the spare slot I have, thanks m8.

>>181514553
As long as you have your essential caster cards like thickblood and tainted magic you can build a deck for all the casters.

>>181513780
>no Belica, Serath or Sparrow
What are you, gay?

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>invited to join a group
>"sure, why not"
>forced into ADC because they're all regulars and Greystone's gotta Greystone
>at some point late-game our Crunch d/c's and an inhib goes down as a direct result
>meanwhile, my Phase has been clinging to their friend the Greystone's asshole like a stubborn piece of shit the entire game racking up kills
>Grey starts singling me out for some reason
>die towards the end when it's just me and a solo Belica defending because the rest of the premade died stealing Prime
>"MURDOCK WTF ARE YOU DOING"
That's "why not". Unless they're you're friends and you're in voice comms, premades are worse than Hitler for everybody involved.

>>181514969
I'm not very good at serath. I tried her in offlane and jungle and I absolutely ruined all five games I played her in. She's just not for me yet.

>>181515043
Try her in the safe lane then.

But yeah, i understand. Not everybody can handle a mommy.

>>181514992
Ranged ADC is the only role I hate and can't play for shit.

>>181513780
They're all solid picks. Just play what you're having the most fun with really, but also don't autistically cling to one set of characters

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The Sparrow/ Phase team are still undefeated after 68 games. I don't know if that speaks to their skill, or how busted that combo is in discord together.

>>181515373
I've been playing this game on my floor with a wireless mouse and keboard because my wifi doesn't reach my desk and there's only one connection: my aim is... restricted as a result.

>>181515409
I don't plan on it, I just wanted to have one of each role so I could safely say "oh well i'm stuck with a premade who refuses to let me jungle, I can hop on support no biggie"

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>tfw kallari is literally unplayable due to draft dodging

>>181516183
Was that just you in the opposite team? fourth guy didn't even pick? eerie.

wait, since when is fey supposed to midlane?
i don't remember her having much damage for it

>>181516527

A build came out for her to be counterpicked against howitzer and then everyone just started picking her regardless.

>>181516737
What does she have that's supposed to make her so good against Howi?

>>181516527
I always placed Fey mid because that's where I took her on Legacy. Offlane works too, but I think Fey support is a bad idea.

>>181517130
he has a big hitbox to hit your ranged poke on

>>181518016
I guess that's a plus. I guess.
Tainted is probably great on The Fey, come to think of it.

>>181517758
>but I think Fey support is a bad idea.
Kek, that's exactly how the bots play.

I feel like trying out a new hero, suggest me someone.
I already main Bellica and play Serath and Kwang from time to time, before someone suggests that. Also not very interested in Countess.

>>181522291
I heard Howitzer and Sevarog are pretty good heroes.

>>181522635
Actually learning to play Sev now. I still kind of suck with him, but he's damn fun and has lots of potential. I used to play Howi back on legacy. Perhaps I'll give him a shot again.