/stsg/ - Starsector General

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Why does this even exist?

>>181175860

even flavorwise it doesn't really feel all that TT

>>181175946
Its funny that the luddic path one is the best out of the 3.

>>181176509
free SO is nice for a lot of ships

>>181176603
also the ammo feed.

Yea we need more luddic variants of other ships like
a luddic Vulture

I was out of the loop a couple of weeks, what was this tournament about? and I´m about to try nomads, what should I expect?

>>181178547
custom made fleets I think all the same faction ships/weapons, fighting each other on full AI

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>>181177204
>luddic Vulture
>Vulture

Hello there fellow space ships.

>>181178702
i like birb

what do you guys think will be in the next starsector update est release 2019?

>>181177204
Vulture seems too high tech. The Path should be about making low tech bricks even more of a brick.

>>181179358
outposts

>>181178645
just checked the video, sounds interesting but there needs to be some kind of balance regarding factions chosen
>first fight is vanilla vs DME
Jesus, might as well throw red into the mix

>>181179618
was a bad vanilla fleet though
If those were SO hammerheads things woulda been different

>>181179789
Unless DME got nerfed to death while I wasn´t looking I don´t believe you. those little shits refuse to fucking die. 3 gauss cannons kill a vanilla cruiser sooner that a DME destroyer. and don´t get me started with that fucking capital
I have an easier time dealing with Templars than with DME

>>181179618
It was a not so great vanilla fleet against a properly disgusting DME fleet. Optimized way beyond what should be done out of a tournament setting.
Plus the bracket was purposely built that way: last tournament MehGamer did very well, and the following round won't be easy for DME as the other fleets built up to counter them before the finals.

>DME
It seems that no matter what game I play, I just can't escape the fucking Russian Bias.

>>181180494
But it's also French, how does that work then?

>>181180494
It's the organizer's fault for letting people use a boss faction to build their fleet. :^)

>>181180494
All the fights were rapes, nothing special about DME cruiser raping ships that can't match its flux

>>181179446
>more of a brick

is that why ludd ships have SO and degraded armor?

What's the latest crack, and where can I find it? Also, is there a starter guide or anything for this game? What should be my endgame?

BIG
bump

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bump from last thread

>>181192174
pls more

>>181194639
I only saved that one because it caught my eye. I'm not sure the name of the mod, but I'm sure an anon from the last thread would know.

>>181194765
It's from that chinese mod that never got updated because it's all in chinese

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>>181192174
I wonder if there are more Chinese mods after playing Appro-Light. I still don't understand the fuck I was doing when I tried being friendly to them for once and helping out Origenem.

>>181196342
whats going on here?
does the mod work?

>>181197052
look at the date on that filename, it's not recent

Wish my "battle carriers" weren't fucking pussie swho sat 3000 range away from enemy ships

Guess I gotta replace them with non-carriers or carriers that aren't pussies
Maybe reckless officers would help?

Also that Maul does hella work with 3 autopulse lasers

>>181197158

do the "battle carriers" have the COMBAT tag? because yeah otherwise they're just gonna sit in the back

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>Watch the tourney because I missed it
>Valiants instakilling a wolf

>>181197423

how much damage per shot do those fuckers do anyway?

>>181197423
Literally nothing wrong with fluxless damage on infinitely respawning fighters!

>>181197593

anon all fighters are fluxless, deal damage, and respawn infinitely

>>181197708
some of them don't deal damage m8

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>>181197052
Fake copies that orbit the real ship making electrical arcs, so bad times if you get close if I remember correctly. I kinda miss the shit I had to deal with back during 0.7.2. Dark Spire, Appro-Light and Knights Templar being dicks raping everyone in Hyperspace.

>>181197851

name one. vanilla.

>>181197952
Claw
Easy
Hit me again

>>181198102

claws deal 25 damage per shot, fucktard

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>>181197584
>weapon_data
>name,"id","tier","rarity","base value","range","damage/second","damage/shot","emp","impact","turn rate","OPs","ammo","ammo/sec","reload size","type","energy/shot","energy/second","chargeup","chargedown","burst size","burst delay","min spread","max spread","spread/shot","spread decay/sec","beam speed","proj speed","launch speed","flight time","proj hitpoints","hints","tags","number"
>Cull,"diableavionics_valiantleft",,,,600,,70,,,30,,,,,"ENERGY",40,,0,0.33,,,0,5,0.5,5,,2000,,,100,"SYSTEM",,
>70 energy damage per hit
>2 guns
>.33 chargedown and 0 chargeup, 3 shots per second if I get this right
>210 energy dps per gun
>420 energy dps per fighter
>820 energy dps per LPC

>>181198209
So a buncha wings of them can't even overwhelm a frigates flux
gg

>>181198409

plus, of course, the missile and PD laser

Tip to modders: Taking a missile weapon that is superior to everything in vanilla then making it recharge as fast as it fires is NOT how you balance stuff.

kk

>>181200219

which one are you thinking of?

>>181200304
Basically all of them?

There is only one missile weapon with recharge in vanilla and it's a pile of shit

>>181198409
>>820 energy dps per LPC
840, how did I fuck that one up

>>181200786

you sound dumb and angry.

your concerns have been given due consideration.

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This is a bad idea

>>181201439

your enforcer is overweight

>>181201439
it'll chew up fighters and frigates that get close i tell ya hwat

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>>181201439 This reminded me to ask.

How the fuck do you make Enforcers work and not lag 986827364 kilometers behind the rest of the fleet once combat starts?

>>181204645
Reckless officers. With the burn drive, you'll have wreckages flying at the enemy at 300 speed.

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>>181205326
>you'll have wreckages flying at the enemy at 300 speed.

I'm a noob but for some reason I'm having the feeling that I should stop recovering Enforcers altogether.

>>181201439
>degraded engines

vendor

>>181198409
Vanilla wings:
Broadswords
>300 Kinetic dps per fighter
>900 KE per wing

Gladius
>152 Energy dps + 300 Kinetic dps per fighter
>304 Energy + 600 Kinetic per wing

Thunder
> 50 HE + 200 KE + 50 Energy + 800 EMP per fighter
> 100 HE + 400 KE + 100 Energy + 1600 EMP per wing

Warthog
> 225 HE per fighter
> 675 HE per wing

Claw
> 50 Energy + 800 EMP per fighter
> 250 Energy + 4000 EMP per wing

I don't know anon, it seems like every fighter wing has a lot of dps anyway.

Few things annoy me more in this game than watching simulator AI duke it out.

>>181212019
Some fighter wings need flux to fire their weapons so the sustained dps isnt as high as it appears

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Could I please get some points on what types of missiles are best suited as secondary armament in vanilla?

Right now I'm using swarmers/salamders/pilums for the AI, and annihilator rocket launchers/pod or sabbots if I'm piloting the ship.

And so far I only had a single Venture class ship that used missiles as more of a main armament.

Haven't had yet a ship capable of mounting the large variants so I don't know much about them.

>>181213421
Well yes, but the Valiant too. Plus it has a shield so it can be overloaded, and unlike the vanilla wings his weapons can be disabled with damage and EMP. My point is I don't think the DPS is the issue with the Valiant, the weapons' range and the shield being OMNI would probably give better results if changed.

>>181213754
It's almost impossible to go wrong with slapping sabots or harpoons wherever you can fit them. Sabots rip through shields and harpoons have very nicely sized booms.
Reapers are also a good choice, and the AI is alright at deciding when to blow its load.
If you can get a critical mass of Pilums firing they'll make a ball of death that rips apart damn near anything then retargets to another hapless victim. You'd need dedicated missile boats to do that well, though.

>>181213754
Sabots are pretty OP, you get fucked whether you block it with armor or shields and the range at which they engage makes it hard for PD to hit it.
Salamanders are good if you have multiple launchers. A single missile is easy pickings since chances are there's nothing else for the enemy's rear facing PD to shoot at.
Annihilators are useful for applying pressure without flux costs, though the small variant isn't really worth using over Harpoons/Sabots.

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post dakka

>>181216832
Now post the others of that thread. Mainly the TriMauler and the constant firing UHAC

>>181216832
oh god my dong is almost expanded to capacity
only by playing Starsector version 0.8.1aRC8 with Tiandong Heavy Industries will dong overexpansion be prevented

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>>181217170
*destroys your armour*

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>>181217170
Looks like you could use an extra large serving of freedom!

>>181179618
Tourney vid, where?

>>181220353
It's available on FallenShogun's twitch.

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>>181217170

>>181175795
>Error: Could not find or load main class com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher
This started showing up when I changed the RAM values in vmparams, and now starsector won't launch anymore even if I change it back. God damnit.

>>181223660
reinstall

>>181223689
I did, but I cannot change the RAM values basically without the game breaking.

>>181224070
works on my machine™

You're sure you changed them with your system capability and that min and max is the same?

>>181224902
Yeah. I have 8GB of ram. Setting to any value (2048, 4096) breaks it.

>>181223660
10 bucks says you used notepad or wordpad instead of a proper editing software and it screwed up your file format.

>>181225234
I used vim, but nice try.

>>181217920
>>181221540
Such a perfect combo. playing with the range of these and vanilla/II weapons to get an almost perfect range line is amazing

>>181220287
That freedomship made me tear up

>>181197862
>that description
That sounds exactly like something out of an anime.
And i can't decide whether it is retarded or retardedly awesome.
New approlight update where in the backstory it's revealed the whole faction is the result of a Tri-Tach employee trying to make his waifu real when?

>>181200786
Two weapons anon.
Three if you want to be precise. Salamander MRM, Salamander MRM Pod and Pilum LRM

>>181213421

all wings ignore weapon flux

but they also miss most of their shots/firing time because of their movement patterns. i don't think any vanilla wing reliably hits 50% of their theoretical DPS, with stuff like talons and broadswords being much lower

wanzers seem pretty good about hitting stuff otoh

>>181231385
>i don't think any vanilla wing reliably hits 50% of their theoretical DPS

actually i suppose wasps would be in the 70%+ category, assuming that literally nothing shoots back

but there's always something shooting back and lol wasp durability

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What mod is this from? I think it might be one of the most OP weapons I've used in game.

>>181238296
>Nemean Lion

SCY

>hey what if the HIL dealt three times as much damage?

Is the game worth running on my 2.3 GHZ AMD, 4 gigs of ram laptop?

Any decent mods that won't destroy balance or performance?

Is vanilla fleshed out enough to be fun for a couple days?

>>181238690
Actually, just as much as the HIL since the "939 damage" is irrelevant for that weapon.

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>>181238296
>says Nemean Lion right in the description
nigga did you even try

>>181238969

i'm seeing 517 + 900 damage per burst at 109 s/m for 2500 burst DPS at a ~1:2 HE:energy mix

but hey it could be completely different since like 70% of what the gun (supposedly) does is locked up in an onhit and i'm not gonna install scy to test it

>>181239291
The charges only last one burst so the weapon is perpetually using the sustained dps (258+225), not the burst one.

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>>181239521

yeah ok buddy

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>>181240160

let's try that on a fresh target with an officer and using one HEF charge

p gud for 3,7 secs of firing

>>181240160
Also the scripted damage doesn't get improved with High Energy focus so that ship is probably not the best one to use it on. It also used to have a much worse armor penetration than the HIL, but the changes in armor damage calculations threw that out of the window.

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lol

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25k in 4 secs np

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but hey maybe it's expanded mags that are causing this, they do make burst weapons even more bursty

let's test some autopulse lasers for comparison

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triple tach lances are pretty brutal though - look at that, 4k damage plus all the local armor in one go!

hey i recognize these damage numbers from somewhere >>181240160

>>181238296
It is definitely hands down the best large energy weapon I've found.
Bursts harder than most, is upgradeable with Expanded Mags unlike Tachyon Lances and similar beams, generates hard flux, has 1:1 damage to flux ratio, etc.

Tach Lances don't really compare because they don't melt the fuck out of armor. A full 3x SCPB burst with Expanded Magazines will kill a decent number of large ships if you bring their shields down first. Only the most heavily armored ships tend to survive that.

>>181242001
>deals hard flux
No it doesn't.
Can't argue with the rest though.

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Should it be 400 dps HE or 350 Energy then?

>>181243935

400 HE leaves it vastly superior to the HIL.

HE damage is better in bursts for obvious reasons. plus having an instant beam instead of the HIL's actually-not-super-fast 2,4k is not negligible. better tracking too, the HIL is slow as balls once it's firing.

350 energy is just boring.

>>181243508
Oh right I'm gay.
It just deals so much fucking damage that it doesn't fucking matter what kind of flux it does.

>>181244398
It's less efficient and cost more OP than the HIL though. Also, there is only a single 1000 range energy beam in the game: the tac laser.

>>181245019
>It's less efficient and cost more OP than the HIL though

obviously. it'd still be much better. easy on-demand burst damage is very powerful.

>>181245135
Maybe I'll halve the charge regen but raise their number to 6. To pile up on the burst damage but making it fall short in sustained engagements.

>>181244398
HE damage is not always better in bursts. The HIL is good precisely because it means you are fucked if you ever lower shields.

That said, the super-charged pulse beam is extremely powerful.

>More DPS than any beam in vanilla
>HE damage so you just spam sabots or w/e then rape the enemy armor
>HEY LETS GIVE IT CHARGES SO IT CAN FRONT LOAD ITS DAMAGE XD

genius weapon design

>>181245531

so with emags that's, uh 6*2*800 = 9600 damage per gun? plus, unless i'm miscounting, another 800 from the reload you get during the burst (with a second half-done)

11k burst per gun over 6,6 secs seems like a lot dude.

>>181246368
Next you need to add LPC slots for "mobile armor plates" that move around like an omni shield.

>>181246368

for comparison the emagged autopulse does 4950 over ~3,3 seconds - and that's with short-ranged, inaccurate slow and shitty projectiles

>>181246368
Expanded mags is 1.5 not 2. Anyway, you get 4s (6 with expanded mags) of 1333 dps, then 200 dps sustained. That's a lot of instant damage, sure, but then is it that much better than the trusty HIL?

>>181246858

dude

yes.

like, look at the tachlance. it's a devastating burst weapon and a top-tier performer in vanilla.

it does 2,5k / burst.

>>181246617
Remember that beams deal half damage to armor though.

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>>181247201
>beams deal half damage to armor

>>181247136

sorry, correction, 2,25k

>>181247201

the beam armor calc is way better than the projectile calc unless you're firing HUGE projectiles. which the autopulse isn't.

>>181247136
HIL against target: 52s to kill
this SCPB: 1'40 to kill
SCPB+expanded mags: 1'32

Of course it will fuck up small targets much faster than the HIL, while being worthless against shielded ones.

>>181247448
That's why you cannot really compare the two directly like that anon did.

>>181247815
Its not really meant as an argument in this discussion but my #1 trigger when it comes to SS, is people measuring weapons by their damage/flux ratio/DPS exclusively and not the various other factors.

Everything from projectile speed, hit strength, how many projectiles are fired at once, to spread characteristics and chargeup can be meaningful and be a reason to pick the weapon over something else, especially based on the ship it is on and waht other weapons are used in the same loadout.

>>181248220
I completely agree. Damage per shot in particular is often overlooked while it is more important than pure dps in most cases.

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>>181247815

sustained damage is not a primary parameter for burst weapons and the bigger you make the mags the less it matters

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>>181248446
>He doesn't slap vulcans on every single slot because of dat 500/20 dps/flux

>>181248729

pic semirelated, i was curious how long the current SCPL would take (34 secs - but bunch up three and >>181240663 happens)

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>>181248817
>implying i don't

>>181247356
Beam damage is calculated by 10th second increments, and then halved for armor damage. So that 1333 HE dps beam is equivalent to 65 HE damage projectiles against the armor, and 133 he damage projectiles for the hull 10 times per second.

>>181249043
No, it's treated as <real DPS> / 2 hit strength cut into <real DPS> / 10 chunks of damage. So, for example, a HIL has 250 high-explosive hit strength for armor calculation purposes, and applies that damage in chunks of 50.

>>181248220
Yes. This is exactly why HVDs are the go-to medium ballstics for capitals despite being inferior to the heavy needler on paper.

>>181251171
Elaborate, I almost always use hac instead of hvds for dps even though an hvd is like an ion cannon hit.

>>181255365
HVDs punch through armor more effectively than HAC. That makes a big difference against smaller targets and on stripped hull of larger ships.

>>181255549

having 1k range is a pretty big deal too

>>181255365
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12268.0
Assuming everything else equal, upfront damage is better over continuous beam-like damage. It works better vs armor, it's better for taking windows of opportunity (IE shooting at a frigate when you only have a split second opportunity before it fucks off back into the ether), and making the AI lower its shield/overload it faster since a single shot could send it over the edge whereas a continuous beam would allow it to just tank it till the very last pixel of flux capacity left before lowering it, at which point you'll be dealing with the armor as mentioned before.

To add to >>181255549 HVD also has EMP damage.

>>181255365
If you hit a enemy shield and cause him to overload the overload duration will be greater the greater the amount of flux generated past the limit.

Let's assume you deal 1000 flux worth of damage to the shield
The enemy has 3000 flux out of 4000
You hit, you bring him at 4000 flux, short overload.

If instead the enemy is at 3999 out of 4000 flux and you hit you will theoretically put him at 4999 flux effectively, since it can only have 4000 flux max the remaining 999 flux is converted into overload time, meaning he won't be able to raise it's shield for a looooong time

bimp

just let this thread die

I wish Imperium had some mid sized carriers. I don't like mixing vanilla and mod ships, and I'm missing that fighter capability.

Is size 7 the maximum size a planet can be? I haven't ever seen any size 8+ planet in Nex, but the wiki shows the icon for up to 10.

>>181263425

iiirc there's a mod faction or two that have a 8^10 planets. i don't think any go into the tens of billions+ pops though

>>181263425
Hegemony has Chicomoztoc in vanilla and that's a size 8.

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>>181262480
Just pretend they're native auxiliaries in your legion.

>>181270916
It just doesn't work without the gaudy gold plating and blue burner trails on everything.

>>181272504

if you want someone who fights like a barbarian (>fighters) they're gonna look like barbarians

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>be me
>check out market contracts
>see 2 million conquest mission for Nova Capitalis from Templar
>no_problem.jpg
>arrive at planet
>3 defense fleets
>close win, but all low cr
>deploy sabotuers and call reinforcement fleets
>wild Imperium detachment spawns
>battle starts
>game freezes up
>crashes (null)
pic related, add another onslaught, paragon, 2 astrals and thats my fleet. Nerf Imperium shenanigans

>>181276513

i like hammers as much as the next guy but the eagle is a really curious platform to mount them on

>>181277173
ye, when it fires them by tilting away from the target to get the right angle. Was contemplating on adding darts/swarmers

>>181276513
>uses REDACTED ships
how unethical... I like it!

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>>181276513
Just to get the idea of what 3 defense fleets look like

>>181279797
so many delicious ships

>>181279797
>16 supplies a day at full CR
you're a big fleet

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>>181279797
Updated fleet, rate
>>181279950
ye, those defense platforms are annoying af, especially when they come as reinforcements as opposed to the ones first deployed

>>181280235
>wasting the two best paragon mounts on guardians

>>181280538
understandable, guardian fetish is too strong

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>activates Fast Missile Racks
You don't get to bring frigates

>>181280235
No portrait pack/10, shamfur dispray.

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>>181283029

heh, cute

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gotta say, 5 claws for 8 points is a pretty good deal

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it's slow work, but rewarding.

>>181284474
>bullying onslaughts with ion weapons

absolutely unethical

>>181284474
what are those EMP drones?

>>181286421
look at the previous post...

>>181283726
But can it shit out 4 volleys of salamanders in one go?

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>>181287978
>4 salamanders

get outta here kiddo

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well this is a bit more fabulous than the initial concept

>>181288228
>You're in the club and this guy slaps your engine

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>>181288228

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>>181288228
>he thinks 5 medium racks firing at normal rate can beat 4 small ones on Fast Missile Racks
laughing_ludds.jpg

>>181288475
what is this funky textured craft?
>>181288485
>activates 360 shield

>>181288901
More like
>activates mod ship that doesn't have engines at the rear

Nothing to it

>>181289210
>giving your mod ship external engines to begin wtih

actually now i kinda want to make some goofy "interia drive" ship

>>181289210
More like
>uses weapon recoil to propel itself

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>>181288228
>not denying a huge portion of the map with missile spam
I've replaced my astrals with these
they rarely do damage but holy damn do they help with strike craft survivability

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>Start game
>Get out of system
>Get spawncamped
>Exit game

>>181291243

pwnd noob

i wish that SS had a clearer progression in system:fleet power

so you'd have stuff like interior systems with small fleets and minimal piracy, core systems with huge fleets and minimal piracy, frontiers with tiny fleets and lots of pirates, and hotzones with lots of faction fleets fighting it out, lawless zones that are all pirates all the time, etc

to some extent that's probably supposed to be going on already, but the lines are so blurry that they mostly might as well not be there at all

>>181291243
this is what pirated copy does

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>>181291243
>indications are that they're aware of your identity.
turn off your transponder next time bud

>>181295287
>goatse

>>181292229
His transponder is off. He's playing a pirated copy of the game, this is the piracy protection.

the only thing the rng fuckery does is reduce the amount of tier 3 guns the game spawns

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Should I buy it?

Or should I keep searching markets for a better ship?

I need to expand my fleet and I think I have enough money to actually buy some non-D class ships.

>>181296709

does you fleet need an anchor? if yes, sure go for it.

>>181296806
What do you mean by anchor?

>>181296851
a TANK

>>181296709
Post the rest of your fleet.

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>>181297096
Here it is.

Maybe I should look more around, but I don't know for how long offers stay before changing.

And the Dominator seems to have a lot of dakka. Which my fleets is starting to really need.

>>181297434

the dom carries big guns that it never uses because everything else is faster and makes damn sure to stay out of range (because they don't want to get shot by said big guns)

you don't really get a dominator to kill things faster.

>>181297593
Okay then, will try to look for another heavy cruiser or light cruiser if cheap.

Does Starsector have a career or plotline to follow? Thinking about getting it since I liked Escape Velocity Nova.

>>181298320
no its just a sandbox for now

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>the Storm carrier in Diable Avionics has 4 medium synergy slots, but not really enough OP for them, good fighters, and capacitors/vents
>having trouble with it ramming into capital ships and eating shit
>check the forum to see if anyone else has issues with it

Come on, the Mora is more survivable than this thing and only takes 20 points to deploy, not 35.

>>181298668
the storm isn't bad (but maybe could be a little better or lowered in OP cost) but the mora is definitely OP

>>181297593
>>181296851
Second time I find a Falcon, is only around 20k cheaper than the Dominator.

Buy y/n?

>>181299417
It's pretty fast at least

>>181298560
Oh. Oh well. Thanks for answering. Looked at Wayward Terran Frontier too, but that's in early access.

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>>181175795

So I am delving into mods for the first time.

Anything else I should look at?

I played the stock game quite a bit, and mainly want more ships (that aren't broken as fuck or ugly).

I figured I'd give Nexerelin a shot too since it seems to be universally loved and might give the game some more direction.

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>About to reach a 60k bounty fleet
>300k bounty spawns on top of my face

>>181302789
Just look at all the big faction mods and add them
None of them are too hideously broken

They do liven up the game a lot with big deserter fleets

>>181302789
I'd just go here http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=177.0 and take a look at anything updated for 0.8a or 0.8.1a. add whatever you like from that selection. anything older than 0.8a won't work on the current version, however.

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Is a good idea to take leave empty the 2 missile slots of my cruisers for more flux vent/cap?

>>181303257
no, missiles are super good
Leave energy slots empty for more flux

Flux is everything, after all
also delet this

>>181303345
>Leave energy slots empty for more flux
You mean the small slots that I assume are intended for PD?

>>181303404
Small energy slots are fine for damage too, its just that they can be very flux heavy
And you really are not getting benefit if you are putting way more flux drain via weapons than your ship can handle.

I generally max my flux vents on every ship

>>181303000
>>181303046

Added Blackrock, Diable, and Scy.

Rest are ugly, reskins, or just not my style.

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I have a Condor with a full set of Talon for anti-fighter/PD cover.

What do I put on my Mora to fuck with destroyers and bigger?

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Why can't I enable freeport?

>>181298320
While no, there is no real playable plot line, there is tons of lore and a mod also adds the ability to capture markets and stations and eventually allows you to "win" the game

>>181304989
blame SCY and the autistic dev. basically he doesn't want anyanon to to be able use anything but his special freeport that comes with SCY.

>>181304989
Hover over the option and it'll tell you.

>>181305734

Is the SCY freeport shit? Should I disable SCY? Or just go with it?

I really only downloaded it so I could beat up on some red rocket dog dick ships.

>>181305906
SCY, not shadowyards prevents the normal prism from spawning. nstead it spawns in the middle of bumfuck no-where instead in the middle of hyperspace

>>181304989
Have you considered acquiring basic reading comprehension

>>181304989
I'll let you in on a little secret: you can switch to random sector, enable prism freeport, then go back to normal mode and a prism freeport will spawn in hyperspace in your normal corvus sector. I don't know why histidine changed the freeport from the way it was (which was fine) but this is a workaround

>>181307143
underrated, inb4 scy updates to prevent this

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>>181308525
>>181307143
>>181304989

So I tried it with SCY, and it still appeared in their really jampacked system

I just tried it with SCY uninstalled, and it doesn't show up on the station list. Am I doing something wrong?

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How many Moras should my fleet have?

>>181309878
If you enabled it in Nexe (You need either Nexe or SCY to have it) then it will be in the middle of Hyperspace

>>181310965
I wouldn't use more than two.

>>181310965
only one if you're trying to use it as a micromanaged frigate chaser, 4+ if you're in endgame and still want to use fighters against cruiser blobs for some reason

just get two astrals man

>>181299025
>>181298668
The problem mainly stems from it not knowing what it wants to be. The Maelstrom is a better "combat carrier", the Pandemonium is a much better "combat carrier", the Gust is a more efficient "combat carrier", the Storm has no niche to fit in except an extra two wings on top of the Gust. It works fine as a support role, but doesn't really do much in a front line combat role.

But for its cost you might as well get a Maelstrom or a Gust depending on whether you want high cost or low cost.

>>181312809
>if you're trying to use it as a micromanaged frigate chaser

I have 6 Wolfs for that, I have a Drover with 2 Talons for PD and antifighter and I'm looking if either bombers with sabots of ion guns would help me against cruisers.

>>181313370
>6 wolfs

Gross.

>>181313750
Is my wolfpack.

rawr~

>>181313902
Sounds like P.A.C.K. is the faction for you.

>>181305734
>>181305906
>>181306195
If you use Nexerelin and Scy together, it's the Nexerelin's Freeport that spawns in Acheron instead of Scy's one.

>>181296048
lol no
Legit version does this too, because the battle joining range for hostile AI fleets is fuckhuge compared the range for friendly ones.
Like can instantly teleport a giant fleet hidden on the opposite side of a planet as soon as that tiny scout fleet bumps into you huge. Because reasons.

There's been several threads on the forum complaining about this since battle joining got introduced. And the response so far has been something along the lines of "well that's how I wanted it to work".
>COMPELLING GAMEPLAY

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Same anon as >>181297434 after some more playing.

Where the fuck do you find and buy cruisers/battlecruisers?

I've only seen them in military markets but they need commission. And I'm too much of an independent to do that.

>>181319081
Askonia -> Nortia
Eos -> Baetis
Indy military markets. Only rep needed.

You can recover most of the ships you'll ever need from either floating derelicts, or post battle salvage.
Requires patience and a fair bit of making-do though.

>>181319081
Cruisers start appearing in bounties fairly early, so salvaging a few as you go is common.

Apart from that the black market is your best source.

>>181305734
>Bitching that a cheat is not cheaty enough
Why don't you use the Console already?

>>181304402
If you are getting shields down reliably already then khopesh's for sure.

>>181319176
>>181319193

>You can recover most of the ships you'll ever need from either floating derelicts, or post battle salvage.
>so salvaging a few as you go is common.

So besides buying from independent that only needs rep, the other most common form is just grind bounties and hope for salvage?

How do you increase the chances of recovering/salvaging a particular ship after a battle?

Has anybody had a bug like this? Doing a Nex run as the Imperium, and my reputation with the Hegemony seems to be permanently stuck at -40. I've taken over 5 pirate bases, and every time I get the message that my rep with them has increased to -37.
I even tried using Console Commands to increase it to 0, but it went straight back down to -40 right after a single transponder check by a patrol.

>>181319328
>How do you increase the chances of recovering/salvaging a particular ship after a battle?
Recovery Operation skill bumps the chances for ships in general by 15%, but a specific boost for an individual ship doesn't exist.

It's "sort of" not that huge of an issue as something will always drop that you can use. It might not be something you'd normally consider hence the "making do".
The only thing that will cause you pain doing this is if you're looking for a particular ship, which can take a long time.

If you have no patience -> Black Market

>>181319858
Is your faction at War with them?

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I think I should remove all the blast doors from my ships.

I think I can pay the difference in 50% more dead crew.

>>181320201
They weren't hostile towards me, so I don't think so. If there was a war, it was well over a cycle ago.
Tinkered around a bit more, it seems that my rep with them can change, but only towards the negative. I'm at -54 now.

>>181319297
if the modders had their way, even the ethical faggots would commit Sudoku from boring, "balanced" mods

>>181322643
But but, THI.

>>181322643
Modders already have their ways: some propose balanced stuff, others propose cheats. But apparently instead of picking what fit their taste, some anons want *everything* to be either complete cheats or perfectly balanced.

>>181323357
Yup...
My biggest issue with the balance stuff is that it always seems that the modders just punish fun and shit.
I also don't count shit like DME as balanced nor cheaty mainly because I know Soren is working his ass off on trying to get them balanced. Only instead of doing massive nerfs like most do, he is chipping away at stuff

>>181323740
Hi Soren, back already from your 10 year leave?

>>181323840
Yup! And I decided that since I'm getting such WARM and WELCOME suggestions from all of you, I'm gonna buff all of DME after the Tourny! I hope you guys will enjoy MonoBloc's new 60% boost, along with 75% reduction to EMP damage and increased OP totals across the board!

>>181320396

crew experience reintroduced when

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How's your home province doing tonight /twg/

>>181326885
whoops, wrong thread

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>>181326885

just fine, thank you for asking

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>>181194918
>>181194765
>>181194639

I took it from this thread.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4368407425

I think it's called Knight and iirc it never had an English release.

>>181328278
Look! A pile of kitbashed greeble nonsense!
(Okay, I like the bridge section though)

>>181309878
the trick I mentioned works with SCY installed. you have to switch starscape off on the map to see the prism freeport in hyperspace

Look at all the modders getting triggered in the Nomads thread as if they own ship names.

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>>181326885
I was just about to start another TWW game. just trying to decide who I want to play

>>181330197
Look at that modder that came back after more than three years away and goes "This is my spot, I was there first."

>>181330197

lmao everyone involved are being complete twats. i want to give every single one of them a swirlie.

STOP NAMING SHIT AFTER INSECTS.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOOD NAMES. FUCK.

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>>181331121

inb4 spiders aren't insects

>>181331121
ships should be named after frogs, like the mountain chicken

all my ship names are registered trademarks and i will sue if you infringe on them. consider yourselves warned fuckos

>>181330315
Durthu and Brettonia are always fun

>can never recover the decent IBB ships

~__~

>Watching replay of my last battle in Rome 2
>Hit shift out of habit while I'm panning around with WASD
>Camera moves faster

AAAAAHHHHH HOW DID I NEVER KNOW ABOUT THIS

>>181332756
or after primates, like the east mongolian mountain ape

What happens to the factions that are not included in dynasectors and nexelerins list? Do they mess up something?

>>181339662
Dynasector: creates randomized loadouts for individual ships. This works on ships from unsupported mods but AFAIK it cannot add weapons from those mods to the random loadouts it makes. You will still see the unsupported mod's weapons on any default variants that came with the mod.

Nexerelin: You won't have the option to start as an unsupported faction, they won't show up in the faction directory menu, and they won't get any markets in a randomly generated sector. You can work around that by using console commands to give markets from an existing faction to the unsupported faction. Adding nex support to your mod is fairly easy if you follow Histidine's examples and look at how other mods are implemented.

>>181328278
>those light effects
Me likes

"My faction mod isn't overpowered" Says the mod maker as he codes his faction to have a nice big Terran world with maxed out stability and production

>>181340816
Actually Dynasector just ignores unsupported factions. It works alongside without issue, but those faction gets no benefits either.

>>181339662
>>181340816
you can enable faction respawning and unsupported factions will send invasion fleets to move into the sector

>>181323357
"cheat" mods are clearly labeled as such, "boss faction mod" for example. DME pretends to be a balanced non-boss faction mod when it's clearly not, and the forum bootlickers get pissy when it gets called out for being balanced like a boss faction.

nobody gives a shit about >muh perfect balance. we merely have the gall to expect non-boss factions to have its power level anchored somewhere in the vicinity of that of vanilla stuff. DME gets so much shit here because it doesn't even hit anywhere near that level.

>>181341271
It was more directed at people complaining about Neutrino or Red that do not pretend to be perfectly balanced. DME has more of a problem since it presents itself as balanced when indeed it's not. Although I wouldn't say it's "Boss faction" level of imbalance, just consistently slightly better than vanilla.

>>181341271
Yea ok meanwhile Neutrino has a cruiser with 3 large energy turrents, with a system that gives them extra long range

Also has armor that regens or something, not sure what the description means
Also has really thin ships to balance out their small shield arcs(who also have fantastic damage/flux ratios)

a bad ship or weapon that's still occasionally worth using is much more interesting than shit that's balancing right on on the edge of being strictly better than vanilla

>>181341765
>Also has really thin ships to balance out their small shield arcs(who also have fantastic damage/flux ratios)
Flank them you dolt, if the ship is thin then it can't protect it's sides very well.

>>181330197

lol at alex having to step in and be all "settle down children"

>>181342573
fights are not 1v1..

>>181342909
to be fair having a manufacturer field would be cool, but some of these people are blowing this whole situation out of proportion

>>181343629

people are gonna be so pissed when i end up having like eight different manufacturers in my mod

>>181342942
Then get one of your other ships to distract it for long enough to:
1: fire some weapons to deplete the Neutron Armor (it acts as a regenerating 200 armor that act on the whole ship rather than being locational like normal armor, it also gives a hull damage reduction of 90% while active but i've talked with the modder and he said he's thinking about reducing it to 50%)
2: once depleted apply your favorite source of HE damage to the exposed side
3: kill the ship
4: move on to the next one

>my strategy is one against then, my tactic is ten against one -Sun Tzu

>>181343791
Sure that works with the stupid way the AI splits ships up naturally
But what happens when thats fixed in 0.9.0 and the AI keeps redimentary formations

>>181344006
That will require nerfs, tru dat.
But hey, you can use this method for the next 2-3 years at minimum.

>just starting out
>attacked by a cabal fleet with a few destroyers, some frigates, oh and a paragon
this game can fuck off sometimes

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>Try to find HVDs
>RNG decides that no market in the entire fucking sector has them even after stock rerolling
>Prism freeport of all fucking places only had a miserable pair of them

>>181349978

well they are tier 3

>>181350017
they're not their

>>181350275

try that again in english

>>181330197
Such a shame, esp since Nomads is one of the few that added unique game mechanics. Nice to see if back on the scene
>>181350275
>complaining of spelling on /stsg/

>>181350368
their 3
is wrong
they're 3
there are 3

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>>181350660

>>181350660

what the fuck are you on about? i wrote "they are". they [HVDs] are tier 3 weapons, so it is only natural that they would be uncommon.

>>181350813
>>181350797
excuse me?

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>>181350996
>well they are tier 3

>>181350996

fuck off

>>181350660
whats youre problem, their just taking bout HyperVelocity Cannons

thour're are tier 3 hvd guns

trolling is a art

>>181351436
It's "trolling are an art", you dumb fuck.

ebin

>>181351436
to whom'st if I shall ask?

>>181351436
Pretty sure its, "There trolling is you're an art their."

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>tfw modders all die because of the passing of time

>>181359140
don't worry, sunk cost fallacy will keep us around

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>TWO Gungnir cannons
>eh whatever, it's a missile support ship--
>it comes with Accelerated Ammo Feeder
>can fire off 4 volleys while AAF is active
sasuga

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>>181175795
Trying out nexium for the first time, just got the game.

Should i use faction mods as well? It seems like most of these are poorly balanced, especially the diable.

Any recommendations for mods to go with it? Got the radar and target lead.

>>181362750

if you think diable is as bad as it gets, i've got some sights to show you

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>>181362878
No yeah i skipped most of the faction mods because they looked op and were just awful to look at.

Metelson seemed balanced and the visuals fit the game. Not sure about dassault. probably just going to remove all factions and start a new game when i get off work.

All i know is that the game is a lot like mount and blade so should i join a faction when i start or try to go on my own and not have poor relations with everyone else?

>>181363151
>Metelson seemed balanced

isn't that the one with an advanced targeting core on a frigate? if so, lol

try shadowyards, they're pretty fun. shame about the creator's colorblindness.

>>181363151
>Not sure about dassault

DA obsoletes the entire vanilla arsenal. we've, uh, had some discussions about it lately.

>>181363993
Pretty sure you're thinking about the Arachne destroyer from Ship/Weapon Pack. Considering that thing only has four weapon mounts, it doesn't seem too out of line to me.

>>181364981

ah no, it's the discount shipyard pack's Typhoon. also comes with two term drones.

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>>181363993
It mostly is. This little beauty however packs a bit more than a destroyer sized punch.

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>Start with a Medusa
>its kitted out as a beam destroyer
>Its good but boring
>Refit with SO, 2 heavy blasters 3 PD lasers (2 long rang)
>this thing is actually brutal

Anyone else tried the pawn? it might not have a shield but its fast enough to keep out of trouble and really cheap. Really liking it over condors right now.

>>181364530
I suppose you meant DME (Dassault Mikoyan Engineering) and not DA (Diable Avionics)?

>>181368402

oh yeah of course. got my wires crossed since dassault starts with 'da'.

yeah diable is not perfect but mostly keeps itself sensible. mostly. way better about it than dassault-mikoyan anyway.

http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=8010.msg216279#msg216279
- SCPB:
. Removed the scripted Energy damage.
. Raised the normal burst damage to 1000 from 925.
. Reduced their regen rate to 25 per min from 30.
another fucking nerf! this is what happens when people like and talk about a certain gun a lot. i blame you fucks for this bullshit

>>181369281

abloo bloo

>>181369281
I have altered the balance. Pray I do not alter it further.

>>181369281
Wow, that's...
Surprisingly kind of okay but still really fucking strong.

I was actually one of the bigger advocates, and I'm actually kind of fine with this nerf. It was best in slot without a second thought, it was that ridiculous.

If you love the gun so much, I'd suggest switching to Tachyon Lances, they work very similarly. I've experimented with replacements today because I feared the gun would be nerfed into nigh uselessness.
Post-nerf seems to compare well to Shadowyards' Deva CAS Beam, which is what I'm using in place of it right now (and will likely not switch because it's more fun to use)

>>181369556

nerf it more

>>181369281
see
>>181238296
>>181240663
>>181245841
And on and on for hours...

>>181369556
Fuck off you god damn baked potato

i'm considering stating my target power level for all my ships/guns somehow, so people can know what to expect and what performance i'm aiming for with a given ship/gun.

maybe i'll settle for just listing the weapon tier next to the name.

>>181369281
>implying that thing didn't need a nerf
seriously, have you ever even used it? its fun but was broken

Ramming ships with Burn Drive is fun.
Even more so when they explode when you hit them, and it takes out more than half your hull.

>>181350370

>Such a shame, esp since Nomads is one of the few that added unique game mechanics

Such as? Can't test it at the moment.

>tfw you finally find a good spot for the bridge you forgot to add all the way until you were doing fine detail

>>181377426
Are you designing ships? Do you have anything to show the class, anon?

>>181378331
ANON GOT A SPRITE IN HE BACKSACK

>>181378856

i sprite exclusively with my ballsack

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the creative process

>degenerate portrait pack moved to main mod forum
ayy anon you made it.

>>181379859

it must've been a real bitch to get all those japanese animation and game studios to agree to let him use their designs

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oh hey this icon looks pretty neat at full res

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These interdictors are 100% balanced and ethical.
4 fighter slots, decent shields, good forward weaponry, and some special ability that stops enemies from moving.

>>181385606

yeah i'm not sure how they ended up with four wings

>>181385606
>2 mauls with all autopulses
laser light show intensifies

also does the BRDY interdictor cruiser really have 4 wings of fighters? damn son

>>181385606
What the hell is your battle size at? Do you even use half of those capitals?