/ndg/ - NieR/Drakengard General #99

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Welcome to the twilight of /ndg/.

Only one more thread to go.

Is it really the end?

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It's been a good run, you all.

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>>180988679
If there's not enough activity to keep the threads alive, yeah, it's the end.

See you all in 4 years for DoD4 / Nier 3

>>180989609
Do you really think there will be a DoD4? Just wondering. What else in the Drakengard series can be explored? We have the beginning (year 1) in DoD3, events leading up to NieR, and DoD2 which was just its own thing. I don't doubt Yoko Taro will make a new game but I have no idea where he'll go next, Nier universe or Drakengard.

Is this the right place for SINoALICE discussion

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>>180985729
damn already the end..it was a nice run everyone

>>180991128
Yeah, there's Sinoalice info in the OP and /sing/ is gone so ask away

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>>180991128
Nope, you want /sing/, which is the SINoALICE general.

Which is also dead.

/ndg/ you dumbass! I thought you wanted to live. Not only did you let it die while I was asleep, but you also left it for dead for most of the day.

>>180994548
Nobody wants it bad enough to do anything about it, apparently.

>>180995046
Everyone was passionate a few threads ago when I said it should die at 100. How am I of all people the most passionate now?
I would have made a new thread ASAP if I had my PC.

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>>180995323
Humanity is like that. You'll hear a lot of sound and fury from people about how much they care and how passionate they are. But when it comes time to do the work, they melt away like snow in the springtime.

what's that little triangle next to ending Z on my save menu?

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Let's make an OP image for #100 together for the end. I love you guys too much to let /ndg/ die without a little fanfare. Draw a character from the series and post it here, and I'll compile them into a nice pic.

>>180996514
That means you finished the DLC.

Which robot should I use to get through the 6th trial of the forest arena? They just keep destroying me instantly

>>180995663
No wonder god wanted us dead.

Are you just going to let us die again?
Looks like you're all talk.
What will you do without me?

Is that reddit lore index somewhat comprehensive? Want to check out the side material and not miss a single damn rhing.

>>181003245
It should have everything that's been translated at least.

realised A2 is the MC in translated script 3, but cant find her scene in the real concert itself?

>>180985729
what the hell these threads used to be so long with filled with so many screenshots

Did anyone else beat Emil in 2 sec by accidentally summoning a lv 99 dead player like I just did?

>>181006786
These threads used to be filled with people who cared about them.

>>181006867
Not exactly. I did that during the final battle in route A. The player destroyed Eve so thoroughly that he couldn't regenerate and I skipped the hacking part.

>>181007579
more?

Just die already

>>181007840
next one is nsfw

Generate the theme for the next Yoko Taro game.

http://inspirobot.me/

>>181009097
>Remember to live a lie

Game centered around Accord and her travels/origin

>>181007992
Link is fine

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Dosvedanya, /ndg/, see you at the end of #100 if ever.

What's the name of that one song in Automata that always pops up whenever a particularly sad moment happens?
I've been digging through the OST and I can't find it for the life of me

>>181012439
Voice of no return?
Mourning?
Blissful death?
Vague hope?

>>180990024
world war 2, drakengard edition. with nazis delving into occult and harnessing the power of maso, red eyes communist hivemind, watchers manipulating jews, christians and muslims through their watcher-worshiping religions, and overall mayhem of the war.

>>181016736
Bad /sino/ poster, the game is DEAD, no more posting about it.

>>181020261
I am not sure how I feel about this...

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>>180995663
wow being passionate if you are gay

>>180998745
God wanted us to die(he never existed)

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>Forest Arena

Small Stubby with a Gun is actually a fucking badass, who knew

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>>181017502
If it keeps the thread alive, he can post about Sinoalice all he wants..

>>181021459
we just know there's some 'god' and his slaves(watchers) who wants humanity to die. for all we know it's watcher propaganda and he's just an alien bent on human extermination, since automata confirmed the existence of aliens with similar intentions.

an omnipresent god who has an ego, flawed personality full of negative emotions and even material form (if we go by the sumero-judaic description of the annunaki-elohim in the torah/old testament that drakengard based its god and his angels off of) is a paradox.

you can't have a limiting form and be everywhere and everything at the same time, which could suggest he's based on sumerian anu+enlil/judeo-christian yahweh+el(ohim)/hindu shiva who was just one of many, not the sumerian father of all/judeo-christian ????(gnostic/eastern orthodox source of existence/jesus's father?)/hindu brahman who is one that encompasses and is present in everything, humans and gods.

Am I doing wrong or am I supposed to be spending 80% of my time running from place to place in Automata? Like Jesus fuck that Jean-Claude quest has me go all over the place.

>>181022727
Sorry, this is not /his/

fuck off back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>/his/

>>181023002
At a certain point in the game your save points also become travel points

Beware, there's a "point of no return" in the game game where you can no longer do sidequests until you get ending A/B, and that's boarding the flight units in the flooded city so get your quests done before then

>>181023162
eat shit and die.

>>181023235
you first

>>181023196
>At a certain point in the game your save points also become travel points
Thank god, thanks anon.

>>181023162
>muh safespace

Will all of you stop being cunts to each other?

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>>181023749
it is yours

here

>>181024813
cute

at least this game made for me!

>>181024813
Who dies horribly?

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>>181026221
Everybody.

>>181024813
Blew 3300 gems on sw gacha, got two winged faggots. Bye guys, not that there's really anybody left.

>>181026221
(You)

I'm going to bed. Try not to die this time.

>>181028890
it's ded already senpai

>>181029003
Come on. One more thread is all I ask.

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hey guys you know whats coming!

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>>181026502

I think I may have stolen your weapon. I'm sorry. It only took 2500 gems for her to appear. Twice.

>>181029329
So, is Sinoalice as much of a kusoge as people say it is?

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>>181032687
Forget A2 DLC (because why do you want to see more suffering), I just want Taro to make a manga of them living a happy normal life.

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>>181032101

It has good music and pretty art. Gameplay is mediocre at best. Otherwise it's standard gacha nonsense on top of being run by a company that has no fucking idea what they're doing. Endless maintenance at release and still many things broken or just flat out removed until they figure out how to implement are rather big flaws to the new game.

How it got to #1 in Japan I honestly do not know but here we are. Personally I'd put it around the middle of the (endless) pile of gacha games. It aint anything special, especially if you cannot read runes. But I'll personally continue to play it because seigi is cute.

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>>181032859
How about あ2 dlc that doesnt have any suffering?

What guilds are still alive and open on sinoalice?

is there a new meme way to level up to 99 after the story? the robot in the amusement park isnt activating for me no matter what I do

>>181035185
Just keep beating him, it may take a while if you're low leveled, but it's the only way.

Should I get Automata on PC or PS4?

I'd prefer PC but heard there were some port issues

>>181033378
Anything on the story?

Is there anyway to get the type 40 sword after route A? I had no idea that one quest gave it and that it would cancel when i advanced the story the next mission

>>181035695
No, it's 2B-only.

>>18103550
It's hit or miss. For most people, the PC version works fine. AMD updated their video drivers to fix issues and NVidia users never had much in the way of problems. Some people have pretty bad problems but it's a small minority.

>>181035695
Use the chapter select function you get after finishing route C to go back and get it

>>181035248
I'm 55 and I just spent 2 solid minutes wailing on the shithead and he didn't activate

>>181038527
At that level, it would take like 20 minutes. Go to Adam's boss pit in the copied city to level up more before coming back.

>>181038527
You should be able to wake him up easily when you get to level 60+.

>>181034996
/lrrh/ has five open slots

>>180997002
No interest?

>>181043526
because we are not going to give up that easily

>>181035613

All of the characters are basically trying to revive their authors and each of the characters follows a certain concept on their perception of trying to revive their author. Snow White, for example, is all about justice and believes all of her actions are just and thus will kill anyone who interferes with her plans to revive her author.

In the process of trying to revive their authors they all meet up with one another and slowly start to find that everyone else is nothing like themselves, they are not "right" and well, basically they're all going to have to murder each other at some point if they want their precious author back.

That's the basic gist of it. There's a lot more to it of course, including about the characters themselves which is rather interesting if a little fucked up. But it's Yoko Taro, what else can you expect? The whole Gretel/Hansel thing, Cinderella wanting to fuck shit up and being a super slut, Red Riding Hood getting presumably raped and being batshit crazy, you name it. It's pretty interesting to me at least since I grew up with these childhood fairy tales and seeing them in this form certainly catches my attention. I just wish it was a short story or a visual novel or something like that, it's kinda ruined being associated with a shitty gacha game.

>>181033378
It was marketed with Yoko Taro's name on it and it's a free mobile game, so that's probably why. Shame it was handled by Pokelabo, raids could have been fun

In the 3rd stageplay, is it 2B and 9S's prototypes who were made by Zinnia? Their personalities? Or was it the first iteration of 2B and 9S?

>>181043926
Honestly it just.. baffles me how such a travesty can happen. Yoko Taro is pretty well known in the industry, especially after the recent popularity boost given through Nier Automata. The game is also backed by Square Enix. So why on earth was such a shitty company like Pokelabo tasked with developing the game?

Infact they barely developed anything, they just took a direct rip from another game they made and changed the assets around a bit. And even with that they couldn't even get a proper release going with weeks of maintenance, missing content and just a plain dull battle system which was ripped from another (failed) title of theirs.

>>181044281
It's prototypes with the same base personality data.

>>181044281
Yeah, their prototypes (or, to be exact, 9S and A2 prototype, since 2B is based on A2). No idea what you mean by "iteration".

>>181044534
Pokelabo has a history of failed kusogames, you'd think they would hire a company with a better history given Taro's recent popularity with Nier. The game will be dead before we even get the Automata collab, and they all come with stories so it could have been more lore.

>>181044989

Sadly I don't think it's dying any time soon due to it being in the #1 spot in Japan. They seem to love it there.

>>180993043
I don't think they died, didn't they just migrate to a different board?

>>181007579
Mind linking the rest?

>>181045701
They're in the mobile games general now.

>>180995402
Yesterday

>>181045830
but they told me to come here

>>181045767
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=63603623

>>181045767
mind go fucking find it yourself? you already asked it

>>180995046
I feel ashamed, I was supposed to be watching it, but I started playing something and it was dead by the time I checked on it, just like all my tamagatchis

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>>181045920
Post here if you want, it's not like much discussion ever goes on in here lately.

>>181045830

The plan was to migrate to /mbgg/ but it seems this thread is being hijacked for it instead, probably due to the SinoAlice in the OP. It's much more comfortable over here anyway.

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http://archiveofourown.org/works/11056977/chapters/25367316

The last chapter of this fic is up, and I'm taking a break for a little bit to catch up to some friends in FFXIV. See you in a week or so, then I'll get back to uploading!

go bother the flowers for operators author to update quicker for me

>>181046506
Thread is saved, androidkisser is here

Why don't we make this thread about SINoALICE too? It's not like people playing it are new to Taro games anyway.

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I've never really understood generals like these. I can't imagine much discussion can really take place with such a limited subject.It truly was a lovely game though.

>>181046848
looks like you are new here

>>181046848
There was a huge amount of discussion when everyone was playing the game near release, and getting through the side material. Now that the majority of people finished, there's nothing to do but drag on a dying, rotted thread.

>>181046025
>Scour the entire internet to find the source of an image you know jack shit about
kek

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>My mother was a beautiful and kind person. It brought me joy to feel her lithe, pretty hand on my head as she said, “You will surely become very beautiful.” After all, I believed that I would one day grow to be as beautiful as my mother.

>For how long has this carried on? When did my mother begin gazing upon me with such fear in her eyes? Was it after the maids responsible for my care committed suicide? Perhaps it was after the minister was murdered? “You terrify me.” I am unable to forget those words.

>My mother spent every waking moment facing the mirror. “Mirror, mirror, on the wall ― who is the fairest of them all?” I left the castle, for I did not wish to hear the answer. I did not wish to see my mother hear the answer.

>Soon after I started taking refuge with the dwarfs, I encountered an elderly woman. “Would you care for a delicious apple?” “Yes, please.” I bite into the apple, fully aware of what is taking place. If this will restore my mother’s heart, then I…

Snow White's story for her crusher job. Being seigi is suffering.

>>181046008
Thanks

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>>181046975
Yeah. The only other general I lurk is /gsg/.

>>181047039
Understandable. I imagine that'd have been nice to share in.

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>>181047450
I left once most people here got to the ending, to not spoil myself, and I return to a general that stays up for days where the hot topic is "let /ndg/ die". I almost miss the A2 fags, at least the threads would be moving.

>>181046848
By your post it sounds like you believe this is purely for Automata but it's in fact for Nier, Nier Automata and the 3 Drakengard games. There's a LOT of side stories and additional content available too including a stage play because why not. There's a lot of content to take in and discuss so it's very easy to see why the threads lasted for a while. Automata isn't done yet either as there will be future DLC that (hopefully) expands the game further.

And Yoko Taro (the creator of the above games) is still very much active as he's the creative director of fucking up your childhood fairy tales in the recent SINoALICE so there's plenty of room for discussion, if people want it.

>>181048703
>there will be future DLC
kek

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>>181048575
Fair dues. I avoided coming here myself until I finally got around to playing the game too. Seems I missed about everything, which is a shame since I had hoped to see how discussion may've been effected by people's reactions to the ending(s).

>>181048703
I understood that its for the whole of Taro's works, but I thought it'd be limited by Automata being the newest. Silly assumption on my part. Well, I hope I can lurk future active threads at the very least.

>>181032859
>centuries later after Androids build their own cities
>9S and 2B sharing a sparse apartment
>9S tends to the house while 2B wins the bread and brings home groceries

>>181038527
Go farm the Copied City if you have access to it, you can fight the bunny on any route

>>181038527
at level 70ish he wakes up in 30 seconds to a minute of attacks. dies in 1 hack.

>>181049516
Probably be a few years before we get a new set of threads, this one is already off it's last legs and being dragged about on its ass until it gets to 100.
Hope its Drakengard, and that Taro gets his endings down. I enjoy a happy ending, though this one was really out of left field. I'd prefer If he did a really bittersweet ending that, while unexpected, you could actually make sense of rather than black box magic or something

>>181049559
Do androids need bread? YorHa units are pretty much self sufficient due to the black box no?

>>181049559
9S would be bored to death, he'd probably be part of a recon group working to recover human history scattered around the world, since it's still programmed in them to protect humanity. His boundless curiosity is still there. And 2B would tag along.

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>>181051020
They just need a bit of water, but they are able to eat and many do so because they enjoy eating

>>181051201
Not if they have internet

>>181051223
>water
only for regular androids. YoRHa androids do not need even water.

>>181051370
Do they though? Bunker is gone and all they have is data amongst themselves, as well as the Pod network. I recall there being more than one Bunker, but am not sure what their fates were after the attack.

>>181051420
I thought their black boxes ran off water

>>181051541
Only YoRHa gets black boxes

>>181051223
Did anybody ever translate this?

>>181051541
lol no.
Pascal said that machine cores are infinite sources of power.

>>181051679
I know, and black boxes are made from machine cores, which are like plant cells, which need water
>>181051697
When was that?

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>>181051223
Who would be the better cook?

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>>181051979
9S, he probably knows more about cooking and other domestic stuff, 2B barely even knows how to bathe

>>181046046
Is there a link to get all these ingame emotes?

>>181049805
i made it to 58 off of copied city respawning robots before i had to take a break from stupid grinding

>>181052308
https://imgur.com/a/Q3z7v

>>181052395
Buy auto pickup from devola, makes it easier to grab shit while you're leveling

>>181052615
Were they ever translated? I keep seeing the RRH one being used when people join for example and I have no fucking idea what it says on it.

>>181051815
>When was that?
I don't remember when exactly, probably when you talk to Pascal in the village

>>181052713
I have no need for anything that drops anymore so I just ignore the yellow balls on the floor, I'm only grinding xp so I can get to 99 and do the stupid bosses

>>181052769
The top RRH one says "thanks for having me" which I assume that's what people post. No clue what the other one says.

>>181051530
Their fates were the same. The cover-up involved the destruction of everything YorHa.

>>181054079
I see, thanks. Any idea what the Alice one says with the text down the left side?

>>181054939
Says "Thank you"

>>181051530
They can make a new network, it's not like it takes centuries to make, ours isn't even 30 years old yet

>>181057154
I assumed there would be no state of the art technology left that's comparable to what they had before, unless they could salvage parts of the Bunker.

>>181054752
Bunker was the only YoRHa base tho, others were unrelated to the project

>>181056735
Helpful to know so now I wont look like an ass. Thanks.

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So did the Jonestown Machines all just wind up on the arc?

>>181051530
just one bunker. there are 12 other satellites, but none of them are bunker/yorha related. they are regular android stuff, some probably pre-invasion.

>>181057338
They couldn't hope to maintain themselves if there weren't any advanced technology left, and now that the war against the machines has ramped down greatly, they can allocate more resources to developing their own infrastructure, aside from grungy little camps.
also what >>181057508 said

>>181057369
apparently all of them that died did. including pascal's kids.

the kiddy laughters you hear from the ark connection in ending c are probably them. then you kill them all.

>>181057695
fuckin A2

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>>181057832
Can't even save the day right, it's a good thing they have the Pods to clean up after her sorry ass

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>>181057832
wow fucking A2! trying to make A2 look bad! wow everyone hates A2!! SOO BAD!

>>181057974
>>181057832
>>181058404

Kill yourselves machine apologists

Also don't post A2 while hating on her you don't fucking deserve her

>>181058404
Calm down, I like her but I don't like that she destroyed the arc. I understand she did it for vengeance though.

>>181057695
>including pascal's kids
They were already dead.

>>181058704
Their ark backups/copies/whatever

>>181058913
You actually kinda right about this mindless A2 hate.

People seem to miss what has the network done to pascal and the village, then PUFF, all the sudden she's a bad girl.

Really?

>>181058910
I wondered how that worked. Adam and Eve were on the ark as well, but they were destroyed. Did the machine network save their data and memories? Why not just recreate them when they died then?

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>>181060138
fuck wrong order

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What are you even supposed to do with different jobs? The game runs just on auto mode the entire time and there is literally no difference.

>>181060326
>''get rekt a2!''

>>181060537
Most of the skills are shared, retard. You should be levelling them all up roughly equally, mine are all at 8 or higher.

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Post suffering

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>>181060326
>>181060580
Have A2 and get flustrated

>>181060537

Different characters have different level up bonuses. They also commonly have damage buffs to their own stories which is extremely helpful in the later stages of the story.

>>181060689

Was that ever confirmed? I seen a lot of hearsay about it back during the first days of play but I've never seen it tested.

>>181060790
The fact that A2 DLC is never coming.

>>181061520
FUCK YOU

TARO HAS LEFT SOME MATERIALS BEHIND THE CAMERAS

>>181061489
>I seen a lot of hearsay about it back during the first days of play but I've never seen it tested.
You can test it yourself in 20 seconds, look at your score, then upgrade any class that affects score a few times, and look again.

>>181059552
they weren't actually disconnected, so n2 was probably secretly backing them up until the last moment like the pods did with 2b/9s/a2.

the bodies were recycled into the tower, the cores reused to make new machines, the minds/memories saved, perhaps in order to study them, incorporate them into self and evolve further, seeking for a way to break the programming.

>>181062417

Huh, so it does. Interesting. Time to blow some of those 5k books and level up my other crushers.

>>181059391
I think it's more hate towards the A2 poster. I wish we could just move past it.
I don't even remember what they did besides post that image of A2 and 9S and I don't think they intended to get the thread deleted.

>>181063098
>I think it's more hate towards the A2 poster.
Yeah, I can clearly see how bad fuckin A2 is, she didn't realize that she killed all these POOR machines!

I think you have no idea about how posting works in this site.

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>>181058536
I can't hate on A2, it's not her fault she was built with a faulty CPU

>>181065479
>CPU
It's not the CPU, It's the motherboard

>>181061101
I wish they had kept her ass the same size as in the concept art

>>181064630
Didn't you learn anything from the game? You shit on A2 for not showing forgiveness but look at yourself.
End this meaningless cycle of conflict.

>>181065626
I hadn't played in a while, I'm thinking of the chip that gives you a joke end if you remove it

>>181062942
>they weren't actually disconnected

Is there any actual proof for that?

>>181065841
I didn't shit on her I just pointed in these people>>181057974 >>181057832


I know this game tried to teach us that the world is black and white and you can still do something about it, but it seems like they didn't give a chance for A2's C ending. Could you explain that for them? thanks

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>>181066262
It's not that I don't get that A2 isn't a villain, It's that shitting on A2 is a running joke for anons who don't actively hate A2. I mean, she's a dumb edgelord like Zero, but she's got redeeming qualities

>>181066262
Sorry. I'm mixed up.

A2 poster, stop being so hostile. The rest of you, stop trying to drive him away.
One of you be the bigger person and break the cycle.
Remember ending E? We should be supporting each other, not fighting over petty shit. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there's no one left from back when that kind of thing mattered around here.

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>>181066872
I don't remember ending E, just j[O]u and me

>>181066721
>It's not that I don't get that A2 isn't a villain
She never was but I think I get what you saying

>>181066872
Well this is awkward.

E is only about 9S and 2B right? It's just for them and their fans. They even have a concert dedicated for them, and confirms that they are fine.

What about A2? Oh yeah who gives a damn about her

Primal example for this>>181067142

>>181066721
>actively hate A2
People hate 9S as well.

There is always a reason to hate everyone.

>>181066262
Well, didn't Ending C lead into Ending E? So A2 saved the day in the end. She was repaired but she is alone now, I feel bad for her. Regardless let's all not be heated about this, every character in Automata has flaws.

>>181068563
Both C and D lead to E.

>>181068852
But 9S dies in ending D, does he not? Either he sends his data on the ark, or he stays on Earth and dies. Ending E had his body and mind salvaged and implied he survived along with 2B.

>>181069034
>But 9S dies in ending D, does he not
It doesn't matter.
Archive actually references only ending D in enemy data.

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>>181069034
>implied he survived along with 2B.
no way!

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>>181069381
>>181069034
>>181069193
I hate this 9s and 2b pandering

We will never have nice things. Never

>>181069034
2B dies too and gets recovered anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

>>181067892
Get over it. You'd think A2 personally attacked you.

How much do you want to **** 2B?

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>>181070694
>you
I'll leave 2B for 9S.

But I'd **** A2.

>>181070678
>Get over it
I will never get over how they treated her and made her character.

She deserved a better game

>>181071479
It's probably because she had her own screen play

>>181071479
Well you're free to feel what you want. I just want the arguing about it to stop.
Now I feel stupid for letting myself get dragged into the argument.

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>you will never have your personal Devola/Popola pair

Post your lewdests 2Bs and A2s before /ndg/ dies forever.

>>181071876
2B is not for lewd you dumbfuck

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>>181071876

>>181071998
Yeah, she is.

>>181071804
>screen play
For few hours

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>>181072164

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>>181071998
Taking a character way too serious aint ya!

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Nucking this thread!
>>181071876

>>181072676
yes nuke this thread with dumblr art!

>>181071876
Too lewd to post here
imgur.com/lMoneSu.jpg

>181070076
Let /ndg/ die I changed my mind

>>181066120
nobody was actually disconnected as it's proven when all machines go berserk. the connection was deliberately weakened and concealed to make machines think they were disconnected, but the last parts of c show it was all just n2 experimenting.

besides, adam disconnected right before he was destroyed, so until then his memories were probably also backed up. it's not like him disconnecting made him suddenly completely un-restorable, it probably just terminated his current consciousness on death, but there was most likely a backup on the network. same for eve.

kinda like how when you die, you're restored from a vending machine with some memories lost.

>>181070694
i want to **** n2.

>>181071874
I only need Devola

>>181072798
I hate Guro

>>181072231
Most of 2B and 9S's important story bits would fit into a few hours

>>181073271
This still seems more like a theory to me, but to each their own I guess.

>besides, adam disconnected right before he was destroyed, so until then his memories were probably also backed up

Yeah, I don't deny that.

post some O6

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>>181075069
*6O

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>>181071874
Would you even be able to pry them away from each other long enough for them to let you get in on it

>>181073271
By the way, not all macihines go berserk, for example animal loving guy and that one in the canyon are completly fine.

>>181076095
Only the machines on the network go berserk don't they? Animal loving guy was off the network as well as canyon guy, and not all the villagers were on the network. The ones that were became hostile. The children were okay because they weren't connected (referenced by Recluse child and the whiny machine child who ran away)

>>181072676
Nuck you mothernucker.

>>181076919

>Animal loving guy was off the network as well as canyon guy

I know, I was responding to that guy who said that all of them were actually connected but N2 was just fooling around and acted like they didn't. This theory works well for Pascal, because you could say that N2 was just being extra cruel for him, but there were also other machines who were just fine, so...

>>181077452
All the machines that were fine had some peculiarity to them, so N2 probably let them live so she could study them more

Why is N2 a little girl is she a throwback to Manah

>>181078402
Her designer probably like lolis

Did I seriously just play 20 hours of this, just for a fucking prologue?

>>181079980

If you're referring to Automata route A/B then no. It's more of a "first half" than a prologue.

>>181079980
No, you just played 20 hours of this for the BEST FUCKING PROLOGUE EVER.

>>181078402
>Little girl
>Deep manly voice

Yep, definitely a throwback to Manah

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It's been an honor fighting with you guys. Glory to mankind.

>>181078021
Then why infect some of them like the amusement park ones, but leave out the other? Seems kinda random.

>>181082957
That's the point, N2 was interested in the evolution of machines so it changed random things and allowed them to fight amongst themselves, or create communities.

>>181006867
What are the odds of that player not attacking you?

Or do they attack nearest target even if infected?

>>181082957
To see how long he could stay on break

>>181053138
You have a full chip set? I have lv99 and I'm not even close to getting taunt and overclock maxed out, hell I only have like 3 of the chips I want maxed, maxed (and one is movement speed so that one maxes early).

>>181058649
She thought it was a moon cannon. It was a reasonable response.

I think 9S was the only one that found out they converted it into the Ark

>>181051682
>Adam is blabbing about how humans, ahem, multiply.
>Pod 042 is bleeping out the naughty bits of Adam's lecture and saying "Recommendation: STFU" (more or less)
>9S: "Say ah---!" / 2B "Ah---"
>What A2 and Eve are doing is obvious.

It would be royal PITA to shop Adam's text bubbles to make them horizontal.

>>181084516
Yeah, and that was only just after he got stabbed

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>>181082046
wtf, I hate mankind now?

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>>181075369
No

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>>181067892
>What about A2? Oh yeah who gives a damn about her.

A2 was obviously left unattached on purpose so that waifufags would have somebody to wank over. 4S's fate was left indeterminate so that people who wanted A2 to have a happy ending too could fantasize about that.

You thing Yoko Taro left these loose ends by accident? Yoko Motherfucking Taro? Give me a break.

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>>181089804
It's no accident that the one YoRHa that survived the destruction of the Bunker in the game "just happened" to be a male and, out of all the possible personality numbers he could have had, "just happened" to have the same personality number as A4.

In Route B, are all these cutscenes things that 9S is seeing, or is it just the player, and 9S remains in the dark?

>>181089804
4S is dead bruh

All yorha black boxes were confirmed online in the beginning of E.

I'm assuming that includes the girl at the oil lake and the one at the oasis too.

>>181089804
It's not indeterminate, he's dead, Pod 42 say there are no more black box signals at the beginning of ending E

>>181090918
Just the player. How could the protagonists possibly see them?

Also GTFO until you finish the game; this thread has spoilers.

>>181090842
That YoRHa bitch at the desert oasis survived Bunker's destruction too

>>181091626
so did the one tripping out on Jackass' e-drug on the cliffs above the oil pond

>>181091180
To be fair, all black box signals include the protagonists. You never know.

>>181092426
yeah, and they were all dead at the start of E except possibly 9S (if you got ending C, in which case it's reasonably likely he planted 2B's sword by the forest waterfall before an heroing).

>>181092734
What I'm saying is as unlikely as it is, it's still plausible that 012345 restored 4S.

>>181068563
>She was repaired but she is alone now
It's not as if she cannot meet 2B and 9S again.
All of them have got a new chance, and there are still some other androids around.

>>181091109
>>181091180
4S didn't die on camera. After the concert asspull and "anything that the players believe happen after ending E is canon", all bets are off. All Yoko Taro would have to say to retcon it away is

>4S: Yeah, I got a garbled transmission from <Yorha at the oasis> that her pod was attacking her and shut off my black box signal so I wouldn't be found."

and voila, he's alive. Totally fucking consistent.

>>181094953
But currently baseless.

>>181096343
I'll spell it out for you again: 4S. 4. S. None of the other surviving Yorha got identified.

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4S is dead. Good riddance

>>181096771
And the only personal data leaks during ending E are the protagonist trio. "Anything is possible" is a terrible argument for pushing anything, ever, especially when it contradicts multiple other pieces of evidence.

Your insistence on this is weird.

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>>181096343
Did I just hear somebody say "not canon"? Because I'm pretty sure I just heard somebody say "not canon".

If you use that argument, then all you can say about 2B and 9S is that they woke up next to each other and were glad about it. No marriage, no steamy android sex, and no happily ever after. And nobody here wants that.

There's plenty of arguments against >>181096771 but don't you dare make that one.

>>181099164
They don't have genitals

>>181099164
But that is all you can say about 2B and 9S post-E. Everything after that is open to interpretation, though there is a foundation for interaction based on what happened in game and in side materials.

Like pod 042 said, there's also the possibility they go right back into the meaningless cycle and repeat a similar series of events.

>>181099106
You're replying to the wrong person in regards to ending E.
I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for clearing it up.

>>181099106
Your obtuseness about a loose end from an author that hardly ever leaves loose ends unintentionally is weird.

>>181091286
I did finish the game. I remained confused.

>>181100687
1. Pods confirm black box data offline
2. Only leaking data is from A2/2B/9S

And Taro leaves loose ends all the time. Nier 1 had an ambiguous ending for everyone except nier. Dod3 had a weird ambiguous ending for mikhail where he seemed to almost go senile. Dod1.3 never explained how clone!one's flowerpower tied into DoD1 despite being the actual leadup.

But somehow giving someone a name (all other non protagonist Yorha members with names are dead) somehow is evidence of anything? How is an android being named even a loose end?

>>181099164
>No marriage, no steamy android sex, and no happily ever after. And nobody here wants that.
Huh? Do people really care about that?
I can see 9S being crazy for 2B, but I'm not sure whether 2B's feelings for him are necessarily romantic.

>>181047316
>three ten rolls and didn't get her or anything
>won't have enough to get medals and own her

>>181102689
Pod 042 to Pod 153: This is bait

>>181103757
Not really. I can see 9S' feelings being like that, however, 2B's feelings can be that way or cannot. He's extremely important to her, and her most important person, but her feelings for him aren't necessarily romantic.

That feeling one hundred percenting the game and getting messages from psn bots pretending to be human

>>181105913
She literally died from grief.

>>181106223
Explain

>>181091286
It's actually what 9S sees due to repeated hacking.

>>181107805
I was playing the game and someone messages me, saying they wanted a friend to talk to. I'm in the same boat so I said fuck it, ask what games they like,asl, etc. Had me fooled until they wanted me to go to a website and enter my cc info,
*sigh* It truly is a lonely existence.

>>181091286
He sees them
They confirm it, can't remember which one but at one point 9s is like "what the heck was that"

>>181109189
They also confirm it in the Strategy Guide (chapter 4):

https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/6hupsn/translation_summary_of_nier_automata_strategy/

>>181053138
Reminder that the best way to get to 99 is to kill the golden statue in the amusement park square

>>181105913
Read side materials or at least weapon stories in the game

>>181105913
this thread really should die if we are going to have this autistic discussion again

>>181109070
Don't worry, we're here. but not for long

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4S is alive!!!

>>181101920
leaking data is hardly relevant. the pods were only observing the trio and storing their data, not every other yorha unit.

the trio was already dead and their data backed up when it started leaking, other survivors wouldn't have "leaking data" since they would still be active (or backed up by their respective pods who we didn't interact with to know if their data started leaking too in case the unit died).

for all we know 042 and 153 weren't the only two pods that overcame their programming, they're just the only two we were shown since they were the only ones relevant to 2b/9s/a2, no others.

and we don't even know what were those player names that kept connecting during ending e. could be nothing, or it could be other pods waking up and joining 042 in his war against their collective/networked programming.

in meta/real world players from all over the world join up to overcome the game developers, in-universe pods from all over the network join in to destroy their own network's programming, having their own network evolve as well.

>>181117172
>weren't the only two pods
For all we know they were

>and we don't even know what were those player names that kept connecting during ending e
Pods talk to You directly at the end.

>>181117302
that's the thing. we don't know because taro deliberately left it all open like that, so everything could be possible. he didn't deny that other pods didn't wake up, he didn't confirm that all other units had their data erased. he only said what's happening on 2b/9s/a2 side. everyone else was irrelevant to the narrative, and thus not mentioned.

the final scene was 2x3 pods talking to each other, the "oh and the player is one of us six!" idea is wishful thinking.

>>181117496
>taro deliberately left it all open
typical autisic argument for any Taro game discussion.

>he didn't deny that other pods didn't wake up
he wasn't aked about it. And Taro confirmed that Pods killed everyone left.
> he didn't confirm that all other units had their data erased
It was a function of Pods to do so. What else do you want?

We know that Pods developed their own will only because of the events in Route C. No othe YoRHa unit was put under the same circuimstances and thus no other Pods(which we don't even see besides broken ones and 042/153) did the same at the end.

You are twisting facts hard here and applying actual
> wishful thinking.

>>181117854
no facts, just your own contrarian wishful thinking. basically a
>nuh uh!

there's no evidence for or against. i said maybe. you said definitely. you're the one twisting shit here and pulling facts out of your ass to claim your wishful thinking is real.

Taro said pods killed 4s and the three yorha out in the desert?

I get the confirmation of all yorha black boxes being offline, but what was the pods motivation for killing them?

>>181117854
>>181118043
I'll check back after some sleep

You guys are doing fantastic

>>181118043
whatever you say, I am not going to waste my time with you.

>what was the pods motivation for killing them?
A part of YoRHa disposal protocol. Everyone should be dead when the project ends.

>>181118210
So why did the pods want to rebuild 2b and 9s ? Because they began to care about them? And simultaneously developed a free "will", so they could betray their programming and rebuild them? I might not have been paying good enough attention the first 5 times but why again was project yorha programmed to implode on itself?

>>181118458
You don't have to answer I should just go read up, my brain is full of it right now.

>>181118458
You rushed the game or what? Go ahead and replay route C and read all intel docs you recieve there as well as Jackass Machine Research Report which you receive after ending C/D

>>181118458
>So why did the pods want to rebuild 2b and 9s ? Because they began to care about them? And simultaneously developed a free "will", so they could betray their programming and rebuild them?

yes

> but why again was project yorha programmed to implode on itself?

to avoid the truth about humanity leaking out

>>181119115
Where's the logic there?
In order to preserve a false hope of humanity's existence, let's ensure it's last successor will die off.

I'm still 100%ing it but I did read jackass' research document.

'Defeat the enemy' implies your enemy must exist? So the machines would sabotage their efforts as not to invalidate their programming. Examples like the forest king, pascal, etc.

Admittedly I've been soaking in the tone of the game more than the actual plot synopsis.

>>181119892
Read side materials https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/wiki/lore#wiki_just_finished_ending_e.3F
they answer most of the questions

>>181119892
>In order to preserve a false hope of humanity's existence, let's ensure it's last successor will die off.

How YoRHa destruction ensures that?

YoRHa=/=all androids

It was never about winning the war, more like just giving the other androids purpose to fight/live on

>>181115783

Used goods.

>>181113664
not too sure about that
The pods didn't get to become friends with him

>>181121380
By this >>181117496
anon's logic you are applying wishful thinking

>>181121380
someone just needs to ask them nicely

>>181118210
Does every Yorha have a pod? Most of them we see in the game don't have a pod.

>>181122963
look like not everyone got a personal Pod.

>>181121380
you don't know that. the relationship between 4s and his pod is a mystery to us, it could be anything.

don't listen to >>181121583, he's salty and is twisting words now.

>>181123180
>4s and his pod
>implying that 4S has got a personal Pod

>>181117496
>the final scene was 2x3 pods talking to each other
Except there were only 2 pods who both control 3 bodies (A/B/C).
Never in the game or side materials they referenced all of their bodies as separate beings let alone talk to them.

>>181123176
Only the important ones, A2's was second hand, so you know she's not too important

>>181122963
Seems like only high ranking models or ones on important missions recieve pods

>>181121380
Its just wishfull thinking for people who want A2 to have a ship since her original one died

>>181120790
Rape doesn't count

>>181128537
Everyone needs something to post for.

>>181128616

You're fooling nobody, Red Riding Hood. You're used goods. You will never be pure. Just accept it.

>>181128347
A2 doesn't have a pod because they weren't developed yet when she and the other Yorha prototypes were being built. The B type production units plus pod replaced both the A type and G type prototypes, with the pod providing the long range firepower.

Says things like now I'm alone

*waves* hey buddy I'm still here too , and there's like 3 others *whistles* hellooooo

For a fellow scanner he's quite dull I agree with anon

How long until Taro's next game?

>>181134061
3-4 years

buy automata from steam sale y/n

is the combat similar to revengeance? I liked that

>>181134932
The similarity depends on the character you're playing at the time but for the most part, yes.

>>181130372
I bet if any G types were still alive they'd be pissed off that they were replaced by little fuck-bots

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> Beyond the furthest ocean depths. In the silent coral reefs stood the castle of the Mermaid King. His youngest princess was full of curiosity, and soon her eyes began to shine with a desire to see the human world.

>One night, the Little Mermaid saved a human prince who was caught in a storm. The Little Mermaid fell in love at first sight. Yet her form prevented her from proclaiming her feelings. Thus, the Little Mermaid decided to become human.

>The Little Mermaid acquired human legs in exchange for her beautiful voice. She endured the needling pain of walking on land as she rushed to meet with the prince. However, the prince’s heart had been taken by another woman.

>While murdering the prince would allow her to become a mermaid once more, she found herself incapable of doing such a thing. After all, such paltry feelings of sadness ― the tears of a lost love were hardly enough to satisfy her…

Would you cuck a mermaid to satisfy her?

>>181135445
>>181134932
There is no special combat mechanic introduced until the second route though

>>181130372
I know, I was just pissing at A2

>>181137761
So does she want to do worse to the prince or what?

>>181134932
Pretty similar MG:R with timed doges taking the place of timed counters and the zandatsu system being removed altogether. You can get timed counters and witch time mechanics added to your move set during the game. I've heard people saying that combat is pretty weak by platinum standards but as a filthy pseudo-casual I noticed little diffence having played through both games on normal difficulty. Overall you would probably like it assuming you are a softcore charicter action gamer but If you aren't interested in a charicter and theme driven story you might want to consider looking elsewhere.

>>181119892
YoRHa was only a small faction of androids, built to be disposed of once their mission was accomplished. Its why they were built with machine technology, it would be inhumane if they had "true" AI, but it'b be fine if they were the same as the mindless machines.

>>181138168

She lives off the pleasure of her own suffering.

>>181128435
not that important considering some got lost on the desert or in the ocean.

how do I cure post game depression after beating Nier Automata?

>>181139741
You can't; it stays with you forever.

I played Nier 1 and Automata back to back and expect to become as God's any day now.

>>181139741
Did you read all side materials yet? it won't help tho

>>181140375
>>181140620
i have tried to do all i can in the game but i still feel hollow, this is why i hate getting into game too much

>>181141276
>in the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/wiki/lore#wiki_just_finished_ending_e.3F

>>181142035
alright then, time to check this out and hope it can cure this emptiness

is that a SINoALICE? people actually care about this mobile game?

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>>181139741
Are you sure this thing happened to you? I'm just really tired lately and I couldn't care about any other games lately. Nothing interest me lately

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Best boy isn't as fun to play as as 2butt was. Is his playthrough just as long? I guess I could skip all the side quests.