/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1288

>>180963938
That's not really what I was asking, I was asking what rings are pretty much necessary for a class and if you aren't using them you are essentially gimping yourself

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GIVE ME 12* UNIT TRADING

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splurt splurt

What's the best way to get from 55 to 60 to make the jump to level 70 SH missions that isn't relying on EQs or bonus quests?

I've got 3 friends who, unlike me, don't have unlimited time to jump on during EQs, and they're stuck in this gap where we can't do level 70 SH quests because of the 10 level difference to get full exp, but the VH quests barely give exp.

>>180964568
Run them through AQs. They are exp pinatas with 4 people, especially if at least one of them is decently geared.

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>>180964561

>>180964561
can you stop

>>180964749
Are they really though? I've found it to be pretty lackluster if you're just literally running them through instead of exit bursting.

>>180964324
Hunter: Gear Save, Sonic arrow JG
Fighter: All of the weapon specific rings
Ranger: Non weak bonus
Gunner: Stance up, Front S-roll
Force: Tech Parry
Techer: None really
Braver: Katana Combat Count Up, bow has no good rings
Bouncer: Dual Blade Snatch, JB has no good rings
Summoner: None really

I'm only addressing class specific rings, you can make your own judgement for the all class ones like air reversal.

>>180965389
Bursts make the bulk of AQ exp, yeah. Without them, you really only have an occasional Tagami to help you.

>>180965389
exit bursting is insane but like, even without doing that you're still going to get that +100% EXP bonus

higher risk on either difficulty will result in more boosted enemies which means even more EXP

>>180965581
>>180965569
>Tagami
Which SHAQ does he spawn in? I've never found one despite running a lot.

>>180965742
I remember him from mines the best, but I'm fairly certain he can spawn in any of them.

>>180965742
Tagami can spawn in free fields and even arks quests as well as AQs (VHAQ too). He's just really really rare. The bright side is that he gives a ton of exp like tokyo bonus ones do.

>>180966120
>Probably over 400 hours in this game total
>Never seen that

>>180966120
(you)

>>180964749
How do you get advance capsules d/e/f besides the casino?

The problem with AQs is that we never get 10 capsules out of them to progress, even if we wind up with a 5 minute PSE burst, so we do one or two, then wind up playing black nyack for the rest of our playtime.

>>180965467
>Techer: None really
The element change ring is fucking great.

>>180969290
If you want a perpetually wind element wand sure

>>180965467
The PB homing ring is a decent ring, it strengthens the power of you blades

>>180969290
While this is a matter of opinion, I don't consider it a must have ring since you still want a rainbow set of wands anyway. You don't need the ring to play Techer which is what he was asking for.

>>180969257
Set the difficulty to +10 before running the quest. I've been running AQs for a while after coming back in Spring, and very rarely did I end up with fewer than 10 capsules.

A good place for D caps specifically is the seaside AQ. It has an ungodly amount of enemies, and some of them can spawn more enemies.

>>180969612
Damn it, I meant E capsules.

>tfw no Harkotan and Earth AQs

>>180969612
Setting it to +10 would require investing 50 capsules up-front, which I don't have. How do you get them in the first place, or is the casino the only way?

>>180969394
After episode 5 forces, bouncers and summoners will have zanverses as powerful as techer's, so techer can focus more other support techs and wand smacking.

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>>180905829

Did they say that they were giving a mellon a power buff in addition to having it not blow up in your face anymore?

>Level 65 Su
>Su is my last req for hero
The episode 4 LQ better give big dick exp for all of the bullshit it's going to have in it.

>>180970534
Maybe Ep4 LQ will drop a qliphad fuse. And will take 30 minutes on average to complete, with shit EXP.

>>180969806
Only 20 from you if the three friends you bring bring 10 each themselves.

>>180969806
You can buy them for a ton of meseta, casino coins, battle coins, or exchange them for VH capsules.

>>180969394
Uncharged zanverses are fine for solo play.

>>180969257
Advance Capsule d, e, and f can be obtained from the Battle Coin Exchange Shop for 50 BC each (weekly limit of 50 each), this is probably the easiest alternative to either paying meseta outright or the casino.

You can acquire 10x d capsules from a client order from Aika, but you'll need to progress to at least 042-E on the EP4 Story Board for those to open up. You can only clear it once per character, but I believe you can repeat it on different characters for more.

Another NPC, Alice, has a CO that awards 1x a, b, c, and 10x d, e, f once per account; but in order to gain access to hers you need to have cleared the entirety of EP1's story quests aside from the optional chapter, that's ten matter boards and quests you'd have to get through.

>>180970730
>one fuse per run, 10 minute runs
if the exp was decent i'd still do it.

Is the game worth returning to yet?

>>180971814
uncharged barely lasts long enough for you to finish the casting animation

How should I go about leveling up for Hero with Level up quests gone? Nobody really does exit bursting anymore.

how up 2 date is the english translation for this? Returning player here, played at launch for 2 months or so

>>180972335
If you have one class at 75 for each type (ranged striking and teching) and a +35 13 sword, talis, and twin machine gun, then you can come back on July 26 and enjoy the new Hero class.
If not then come back now and get that stuff ready for Hero class.
Actual requirements are just being lv75 in the required classes, +35 weapons optional but you'll suck without them.
Ranged classes: Braver, Gunner, Ranger
Striking classes: Bouncer, Hunter, Fighter
Teching classes: Techer, Summoner, Force
Pick one of each

>>180973209
Do the daily featured quests and hope you get bonus keys. Do the limited quests. It's bullshit without leveling quests but it's not impossible. Got my braver from lv1 to lv64 in the past 3 weeks.

>>180973226
Which 13*s should I pick up for it? I'll be too late for Zeinesis, not to mention no expert block access.

>>180972373
Last long enough for two whacks.

>>180973432
>I'll be too late for zein
Assuming you have enough free time you're really not. I started last week and I only have one more to go for 60 element which is what you really need.

If you don't there's going to be a new collection file coming with the revamped yamato next week I would assume and that'll have a couple of different choices for weapons.

>>180973637
What about units? I'm still using shitty saikis.

>>180973637
>PVP rear red unit for offense
>Shitty rear and back units in the badge shop if you're just looking for 2/3 units for expert block reqs
>The LQ will drop ray units
>You can get zein units from Deus
>Izane units from driving rain if you have a ridiculous amount of luck

Of course everything past the first 2 are completely reliant on RNG and boy does it ever seem like a low chance.

>>180973432
Zeinesis is your best bet right now, and no you're not too late. You have at least 3 CFs you can do simultaneously. Just remember to be in a party of 4, use TriBoost+125%'s from the treasure shop along with Rare Drop Boost+250% from the excube shop and then during the last phase of Zephyros use a 5th Anniversary Donut (which cost 1 anniversary badge each and you should stock up on them). This will make your collection bar go up by like 28% every run, meaning you should get a Zeinesis Weapon every 5 days. 2 days for cooldown means you'll finish in 6 weeks, since you should be running them all simultaneously.

>>180974368
That's assuming you never, ever miss a Deus EQ, which is kind of unreasonable.

>>180974368
>use triboost 125
now now anon, dont be unrealistic. Even solo 250+100 tri+50 donuts+50 daily is 26%. after this weeks maint we'll have a 100% rdr/exp boost, so you'll be able to clear a zen sheet in 4 runs if you toss in a party bonus.

>>180974545
>This weeks maint we'll have a 100% rdr/exp boost

You mean the one that's happening in like 2 hours?

>>180974474
Missing a Deus=1 day delay, and you have 20 weeks left. You only need 6 weeks.

>>180974368
So what should I be using until I have Zeinesis then? I'd feel a little bad leeching like a faggot

>>180974545
>after this weeks maint we'll have a 100% rdr/exp boost,
Oh boy really?

>>180974545
>after this weeks maint we'll have a 100% rdr/exp boost
Huh?

>>180974770
Whatever weapon you currently have for your class that has the highest attack stat.

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My wife Xiera is super cute!

>>180975025
Highest attack stat and max element*

Nobody seems to understand that your element is a raw modifier to your damage.

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>>180974690
>>180974882
>>180974906
ok maybe it wasn't immediately afteer maint, but there was this slide during the last livestream.
http://www.pso2-uploader.info/uploda/src/up208651.jpg
>linking a picture on an imageboard
blame 4chanx being a cunt right now.

OST Vol.5 when

>>180975223
I literally just used a magetsu gold right now. If I knew I'd have waited

>>180975223
We're getting another gold key too? Neato.`

>>180975445
Bonus Key Rappy Gold? I bet it insta-levels you to max or something

>>180975223
It's not this week, just on the 2nd. It's a new thing they're doing. The 2nd of every month will be "PSO2 day" and have a boost and some other rewards for logging in.

>>180975223
Are we gonna have meseta boost as well or dont do those anymore?

>>180975584
rappy keys are gold by default

>>180975584
rappy keys are probably the second best for exp preceeded by tokyo gold so it's going to be a lot either way.

>>180975669
Oh I see, that's cool then. I wasn't entirely sure since I don't recall seeing it mentioned on bumped anywhere.

>>180975957
They're beaten out by magatsu gold keys actually.

>>180975307
Didn't that come out today

>>180976590
Yes but I can't find an upload anywhere. I've been frantically refreshing ffshrine and game-ost all day

Base VR Trigger @ 11 PM EDT

>>180976721
Eh, give it a few hours/days, shit takes time probably

>>180977141
>inb4 its posted in that cancerous Facebook group now
they did it with the vol. 4 ost

>>180977217
What cancerous Facebook group
I'm willing to put up with it for some sweet official Tokyo cuts

>>180977016
You realize maint starts at 10 EDT right?

>>180977447
the PSO2 english community facebook group led by that tranny AIDA, thats where i got a mega link of the Ep3/vol.4 ost

>>180977571
Base VR Trigger @ 10 PM EDT

>>180977674
:Q

Where do I find an english guild in this shit game thats actually alive? Im on ship 2

>>180977592
Whoa what's this
http://www.game-ost.com/albums/140355/phantasy_star_online_2_original_sound_tracks_vol.6/
>Release date: August 13 2017

>>180977802
>actually alive
>pso2
lol

>>180977925
Volume 5 is out today, Volume 6 will be out then

>>180977930

I just want people to do stuff with

so what are the odds of hero being bouncer tier?

>>180977930
>People thinking this game is dead
This general is dead because it's so shit. The game is doing just fine during the times it actually should be.

>>180977592
Found it
Entered
Searched
They don't have it
Too cancerous for me to want to stay in it though
It's worse than my uni groups

>>180978729
the pso2g community is dead

Whats the difference between noble and elegant affixes? is it just more pp or is there more of he respective stat it represents

>>180979198
A bit extra of the stat and the PP. Example: Elegant power is 40S-ATK 4PP while noble is 30S-ATK 3PP. The big difference is the price for such a small stat difference.

>>180979198
A bit more atk/hp and 1 more pp, yeah. It's actually not worth it at all for how much they cost.

>>180979352
>>180979405
i figured as much. i plan on 8s'ing my Gyx sword after i 60 ele it and was just curious about the differences because fuck these S-atk jews now i can feel co comfortable just using noble

>>180979680
>plan on 8s
no you don't.

>>180980084
yes i do

>>180980281
how precious

Do we even have a track list for the v5 soundtrack? Or the v6 soundtrack?

>>180982183
We should have one for Vol. 5 by now
Volume 6 probably not but it should be easy to extrapolate based on what's is and isn't on Vol. 5, since it'd be the rest of Episode 4

>>180982183
>>180982518
ディスク:1
1. Zero-G - The Earth - Original
2. Zero-G - Interlude -
3. Zero-G - Train Gidran -
4. MATTARI in Tokyo
5. Comedy Again
6. No・Zo・Ki・Mi
7. Embodied Nightmare
8. Maneuvers of Mother Cluster
9. The Origin - Phaleg -
10. Evoke the Virtuality
11. Cafe Au Lait - Franca’s Cafe -
12. Training! - Stand by -
13. Training! - Task -
14. Training! - Clear -

ディスク:2
1. Realization - The Earth - Scenery
2. Realization - The Earth - Battle
3. Realization - Interlude -
4. Realization - Train Gidran -
5. Nobleness - Adam -
6. Earthguide
7. Aether
8. The Fighter - Phaleg -
9. Creepy Siren
10. Assaults of Mother Cluster
11. Blue Hawaii - Franca’s Cafe -
12. Battle Arena - Lobby -
13. Battle Arena - Stand by -
14. Battle Arena - Battle -
Battle Arena - Win -
16. Battle Arena - Draw -
17. Battle Arena - Lose -

ディスク:3
1. Borderless - 5th Opening -
2. Steel Gale Operation - Stand by -
3. Steel Gale Operation - Phantasical Battleship Yamato 1 -
4. Steel Gale Operation - Phantasical Battleship Yamato 2 -
5. Insolent Doppelganger
6. Steel Gale Operation - Takeoff -
7. Borderless - Guitar Version -
8. Borderless - Attack -
9. Lonely Flame
10. The Seeker of Power - Phaleg -
11. Spumoni - Franca’s Cafe -
12. Calamity Border Probe - Amduskia - Scenery
13. Calamity Border Probe - Amduskia - Battle
14. Crystal Saturation - Gruzolus Drago・Drago Deadrion - 1st half
15. Crystal Saturation - Gruzolus Drago・Drago Deadrion - 2nd half

ディスク:4
1. Arkuma Slot - Normal -
2. Arkuma Slot - Fever -
3. Arkuma Slot - Jackpot! -
4. Mesetan Shooter
5. Rappy Slot
6. Black Nyack
7. Zero-G - The Earth - 2nd Dimension
8. Zero-G - The Earth - 3rd Dimension
9. Zero-G - The Earth - 4th Dimension
10. Zero-G - The Earth - 5th Dimension
11. Zero-G - The Earth - 6th Dimension
12. Zero-G - The Earth - 7th Dimension
13. Zero-G - The Earth - 8th Dimension
14. Zero-G - The Earth - Karaoke
15. Realization - The Earth - Battle - karaoke

>>180982183
>>180982518
>>180983297
So, everything up to Ultimate Amduskia except Vegas, and plus battle arena and the casino games. Vol. 6 should be the rest (Las Vegas, Mother, Deus Esca, probably Quna, etc.) and maybe something from the start of EP5, maybe not.

why do I have an izane ball

>>180985073
LQ

>>180985301
but there are no izanes in it why would their balls be in my pack

>hastily scrounge up a grinded dual blade for one last fight against anga
>it picks up a resistance to jet boots anyways
oh well i tried

db isnt that bad
maybe i should put more effort into them

>>180985506
EP3 LQ has a chance of dropping izane crystals. EP1 had rares, EP2 had exp, and apparently sega thought making izane crystals a rare drop was good enough to make EP3 the meseta quest.

Will they revive sexy bikini BA now?

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Maint time post rare Qunas

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Its that time again! post your latest screen and and music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkk-6kv_KTc

>>180987053
hmmm this Matoi...

>>180987552
its ugly

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>>180987053

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlFA0Zq1k2A

>>180985629
When you fight anga, you explicitly use one weapon type until it gains resistances. Doing otherwise you risk having it strong vs all your weapon types if your group is shit tier, and nobody likes that.

>>180987814
heh cute fat ruppies

>>180987053
Are you cumming over now? Inb4 excuses

>>180990060
i have a caseal on 4 that i made a while back that i kind of forgot about

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I fixed their ears, but I can't seem to fix that flat chest.

God damn permaflat.

>>180983297
Does anyone know what item codes come with this volume?

>>180986258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-mhyTPQew

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>>180991046
just why is this a problem?

ALSO don't take credit for my stealth disguise it's for the benefit of the earthlings (see: Aika)

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>>180991483
Stand aside little man... this is no place for kids

>>180991483
HOLY FUCK YOURE HOT

>>180991483
YOU LOOK SO FUCKING GAY OH MY GOD

>>180991598
I want to lick that bare back

>>180991598
That back shot is nice

>>180991689
please dont

>>180991840
the fucked up part about this is i dont know nor do i remember how i got that shot, it just kind of happened by accident.

>>180991483
u gay bro?

>>180991657
>>180992979
You guys can call him GAY all you want but Aika would totally give him the succ, just look at itsuki

>>180993152
newearls prefer HUMANS, that's why

i'd post my elf x itsuki censored iscreenshot but i can't seem to find it

anyone get the last mods from here? seems to have been up for only a day
http://eelog.jp/thread/pso2-ero2/14

Will Hero and EP5 OP beat EP2 OP?
https://youtu.be/vVbJTftWJqU

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>>180993494
STOP IT WITH THE NEWMAN GENOCIDE CRAP

RACE WAR NOW

>>180994848
hey it works for newmen too, HUMAN females flock to newmen see QUNA X CASRA

>>180991483
I want to smash that boy pussy.

>>180991112
地球-東京「昼」(ミュージックディスク)
地球-東京「夜」(ミュージックディスク)
大和「前半戦」(ミュージックディスク)
バトルアリーナ(ミュージックディスク)
アムドゥスキア-ULT(ミュージックディスク)
バトルアリーナロビー(ミュージックディスク)
PSO2 イベント「アーデム1」(ミュージックディスク)
PSO2 イベント「ファレグ1」(ミュージックディスク)
PSO2 イベント「ファレグ2」(ミュージックディスク)
ファレグ戦(ミュージックディスク)
DJブース(ルームグッズ)

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>>180995936
That's not a thing

>>180996694
It is

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>>180997000
n-no

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GRYUZORAS

Forgot to do the third training quest what cool content did I miss?

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>>180997884

>>180998601
the third lq? absolutely nothing, it was complete trash as everything that takes part on harukotan is.

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>>180997884
衝烈の風に慈悲は無し!

>>180999652
don't remind me, I have 3 friends that quit around Halcotan release because how shitty they thought it was

"muh space sci-fi fantasy"

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>>180999652
>mad cuz anga made his anus loose

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>>180999671
骨の髄まで……消えて無くなれ!

>>180997884
>>180999671
>>181000135
This LQ is gonna suck dick

What or orcs' elemental weakness?

>>181000571
fire

light weakness is also reported for that buster quest

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>>180999853
>muh space sci-fi fantasy
We had a tribal dragon planet and a talking shellfish beach planet before that, but a planet full of Japanese ogres is suddenly over the line

>Everything in EP 4 is weak to light
What will the element to have be for 5?

>>180997884
>>180999671
Rare Gryuzoras has a really cute voice.

>>181000758
I think you mean wind and dark. Light is only for raid bosses and darker phantoms.

>>181000969
>Light is only for the small amount of relevant content in this game
uh

>>181000758
Yamato and Hagito would like a word with you.

>>181000723
I like Kurono, anyone else like that map?

>>181001149
I like the area, visually. The autumn-themed color pallete and the grand archways and cliffs are pretty nice.

I don't like how the free field is designed with the points requirement to go to area 2 (shiro and floating facility are the best free fields, mechanics-wise), but at least it's way better than the ep 4 ones.

Hero looks rad as shit

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It's maintenance.

Post space birds.

>>181001149
>>181000723
i want to _____ the oni, especially the kuronites

jokes aside, kuron is very pretty. i took pics with all the statues

someone pls carry me in dfo

>>181002450
wrong general

Female priest is a lot of fun though I just ran out of FP

anyone play on bb on ultima?

i wonder if bb has a spike in activity around this time of week

>>181003238
why don't you try ephinea?more people play over there after all

>>181001630
Post singing Rappies.

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>>181001630

>>180978648
I'm eagerly waiting until people start complaining it isn't as strong as FI, yes

>>180969926
forces won't exist after episode 5

>>181006383
I doubt much will change, even with the nerfs

>>181006030
Should I even bother getting Zeins for it when I don't have Fighter Zeins yet? The class looks fun but I'm unsure about its viability.

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>>180987053
good morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjRC6CwuBOw

>>181006968
A full ray/union set or anything similar works

>>181008019
Let Me Slap You're Ass Just Once

>>181008165
I meant weapons

Servers up

I probably won't be 75/75 in time to farm the LQ at XH, which units should I go for if Ray is unavailable?

This guy is cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK3BlNcDZy4

>>181008580
Astra/Ray/Union/Zein/Gix/Qliph are fine, I'd say even Revolucio are fine to start with

>>181008773
>Astra/Ray/Gix
None of those are in the game anymore
I mean technically they are, but they're really not

>>181008850
Well, Gix might become "common" with the EP4 LQ.
Just go for the Qliphads.

>>181008850
Your fault for not picking them up when they were. If you're a new player, quit while you can, PSO2 HATES new players with a passion.

so is the ep4 LQ complete trash or what?

>>181009034
I got a deus fuse drop on my first run but not second one.

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>>181010260

>>181010331
>deus fuse drop
For real?

>>181010696
Just did 2 runs and got 2 fuses each time. It's real.

new to summoner, someone give me a breakdown of the pets please

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>>181010696
3rd run only 1 again

>>181011221
everything besides aero and maron is trash.

>exp is kinda shit
291,708 with daily 50, 75, 50 donuts and no party/exp increasing weapon, so
>it's shit
but
>fuses
so it's great. It's going to be super popular

At least you don't have to fight Greuzoras, Deadleon and Anga at the same time.

I literally spend all my PP just trying to catch up with every single fucking enemy that runs away until it's out of range of everything including its own attacks in this shitty quest.

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>MPA flips all three switches at the start of the Ult Amduscia section

Why the fuck is eveyone so bad at this quest? Is the concept of splitting up in the ult AMD section too hard for some people or something?

>>181012404
291,708*1.4=408391.2 that's pretty good exp if you can run it fast.

>>181013462
That's the ideal thing to do, though

>>180983297
>No Yggdrasil theme
I'm disappointed, but
>10+ different Tokyo themes
Why isn't there an upload yet i need this

>>181013479
>>181013546
Splitting up is not a bad concept, but unless you're in an organised group of people who you know can play well it's unwise to have all 3 fucking people up at the same time because it turns out you have something like 3 sword only hu and a te.

>>181013952
point in case on single gate final clear time:
>10 minutes
>14 minutes
>7 minutes
>13 minutes
it's all dependant on the people

90m: dudu boost
get to work fuckers.

What would be semi cheapo affixes for hero units?
app soul/doom break/mut2/abi3/mod is all i can think of with noble stamina perharps replacing one of them

>>181015109
>Mod
>Cheap
I'm sorry anon, you're too late

>>181015226
b-but i have 30 or so 3slot/4 slot stashed

>finally get 75
>get excited because i can finally do endgame shit with bros
>lol jk farm sub-class to 75
any tips?
i havent played since mother EQ came out
has there been any major changes i should know about?

is ep5 just hero class and new storymode?
the hero class seems like you can easily swap between weps and you get bonuses for doing so?

RIP market
incoming boost week

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anyone knows what best parfait for Rappy Pet? Prefer mix mobbing/bossing use.

Are Doom Break prices back up yet?

>>181015715
the trashcan parfait

>>181015715
>mobbing
>rappy
?

>>181015717
>100k 5s units
No.

how much longer is this LQ gonna be up?

>>181015915
One week of it being alone, then one week of all 4 being together

>>181015806
but it's an all-around pet. Might as well use it during Poppie downtime

Anyone got a collection of Lang pictures and webms they can upload

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Hero version when?

so does hero even look like it's going to be any good?

do you seriously need to affix 3 different offensive stats on hero? that's retarded

>>181016690
We dont really know yet since its still a month away but sega has mentioned that talis will be mostly for utility/movement while sword and tmg are for offense

I'm just gonna use my ratk set to main tmg but I'll also use talis for that sweet teleportation trick

>>181016690
Don't believe Sega's lies, no matter what they say one weapon will end up clearly better than the others and you can just affix for that

>>181016925
In that case would that just make it the "main" weapon, or the only one you use period? The latter would be a bit lame, and at that point I'd probably rather just play the regular class using that weapon.

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>>181016483
You tell me

>>181016690
>>181016795
Sega has confirmed that you'll want all stat units

>>181016925
Except if you actually watched the videos they put up you'd see that sword is clearly the bossing weapon, while tmg is the mobbing one, and then talis is for utility/dot.

>>181017005
So basically hero is unplayable if I'm not willing to sink tens of millions into weird ass 6s unit affixes?

>>181017005
>Sega has confirmed that you'll want all stat units
You'll need to post proof of that because it sounds as bullshit as "sega has confirmed that you'll want to use all PAs on your classes" which everyone knows is already BS. Just look at bravers

>>181017005
Except both Sword and TMG have moves for Bossing and Mobbing? Or are you going to try to pretend Brightnes End can't mob?

>>181017060
You can get 100 atk a good ammount of hp and a bit of pp from just 5s units

>>181017121
It was from one of their Q&A session things. It was in response to a question on what kind of affixes would be best, they also mentioned that while a single weapon hero is usable, it isn't ideal.

>>181017135
Sure, they each have bossing and mobbing attacks, but the sword bossing attacks are very obviously better than the TMG ones, and vice versa for mobbing.

>>181017392
Who gives a shit about what Sega says? They can't balance for shit, so one weapon is going to dominate.
Not that it matters when Fighter is still the better class.

>>181017392
>It was from one of their Q&A session things.
>It was in response to a question
meh

Sounds like your typical hype generation bs. This isnt the first class that has different weapon types using different attack types.

>>181017637
That's a pretty big leap in logic, dude. Also funny that you mentioned fighter, one of the classes in the game where all its weapons are useful, and no one is clearly superior for everything.

>>181017716
>This isnt the first class that has different weapon types using different attack types.
wand uses satk for the smack, tatk for the explosion, gunslash uses satk for the slashing attacks and ratk for shooting ones, so I don't understand what point you're trying to make
sword is going to use satk to calc damage, tmgs are going to use ratk and talis is going to use tatk, so ideally you'll want all atk units, and they've confirmed this multiple times now.

>>181017942
Braver does exist you know

>>181017942
And wanders only use one weapon type.

What you and sega suggests is making a unit set involving 3 attack types so you can use all 3 weapon types.

When was the last time you actually saw a braver have both ratk and satk on his stuff?

>gunslash
lol

>>181018102
Braver isn't exactly comparable in the least.

>>181018202
How is it not comparable? Don't people bitch all the time that Katana is for mobbing and Bow is for bossing and yet people usually do better being fully committed to one. Even with the "Hybrid Build" most people still only affix S-ATK and rely on the R-ATK boost from Rapid Shoot when they use their bow.

>tmg on hero
Literally why? TMGs are the least fun weapons in the game, even the basic attack is channeled bullshit

>>181018360
Do you know why you're better off with only one? It's the lack of SP. Not only do you miss out on utility skills and a stance if you take both, but if you take both you need to get MH and automate, which cuts a lot of points out of things that could increase your damage otherwise. Hero most likely will not have that problem, as it seems like its skills will work for all its weapons, not individual ones.

>melee class without MH/Automate
Hero won't be viable

>>181018583
>I suck at melee
FOshitter crying in the corner detected

which class am I better off getting zeins for, fighter or hero?

>>181018583
4u

>>181018494
>Hero most likely will not have that problem
Have you seen Hero's skill tree?

>>181018628
I'm sure you're going to be able to keep up with a fighter who can just ignore mechanics altogether while you have to waste time dodging

>>181018660
No, but we've been shown many of its skills, and they all are general and not weapon specific, and there's nothing in any of the footage shown that would imply that there are weapon specific skills.

>>181018715
So you're basically using active skills to prove yourself right while using the actual SP eaters (shit that isnt active) to tell that guy that he's wrong?

How are you so sure that Hero wont have a billion passive skills for each weapons?

>>181018830
Because there's literally no fucking reason to think that's true? Also we've been told about some passive skills from hero too, and still no mention at all about weapon specific skills, which is the kind of thing that they'd probably mention over double jump or first blood.

>>181016483
Watch the trailers.
>>181018709
Hero can use 3 different fornis weapons too so they can also ignore mechanics.

>>181018494
Lets just assume Hero's won't have passives that you can invest into and the skills will keep all the damage multipliers equal between weapons. Even if that happens I doubt it will actually make all-atk affixes worth it. The person with 200 S-ATK on their units and Sword will do more than someone who's invested 120 into all attacks.

>>181018968
Forget the Fornis, hero can literally do damage while dodging thanks to it's ebin counter

Izane does not exist

>>181018638
Anyone?

>>181019020
>200 atk unit affixes
lol okay dude. That's an insanely fringe example that very few people have. A better one would be 100 all atk units vs 120-140 atk single stat units. Not to mention, again, it looks like sword and tmg are better at their own things, and you'd probably outdamage a higher attack sword main at mobbing if you're using mixed attack tmgs.

>>181019046
Hunter has better counters though

>>181019303
How do you even know? We have no idea what weapons they were using in those trailers

>>181018960
>Because there's literally no fucking reason to think that's true?
>FO and TE being unable to use all 3 of their elements because of too much passives
>BR being unable to use both weapons because, as you have mentioned, lack of SP points to cover all their active skills

>and still no mention at all about weapon specific skills, which is the kind of thing that they'd probably mention over double jump or first blood.
Yeah, I totally remember the time they discussed each of the passive skills affecting GU's showtime skil- oh wait

Look, I'm not saying having 3 attack affixes on your units is dumb but I'd rather wait for Hero to get released then do my affixing based on personal gameplay experience instead of jumping the gun just because the developer said so.

is Hero even going to be worth the effort of unlocking it? if it's not the best class I don't see the point

>>181019356
Level 75 counters off step for 32k. Hunter can fire an entire Ignite Parrying off a singular attack that should hit anywhere near 200k.

>>181019505
we were discussing fighter and dodging with hunter as a subclass m80

>>181018583
MH is a ring and hero has access to techs, easy megiverse and resta.
>>181018102
That's the closest to hero and yet I missed it, yes. Not many people bother doing both satk and ratk though since trees aren't lax enough to allow both bow and katana without hindering one or the other in any way. It's ideal to use both, though, yes.
Probably same deal with hero, you'll either stick to one attack type, hindering everything else in your arsenal, or go the extra mile and spec for everything, and the latter only seems limited by your meseta supply and not skill points.

It's -ideal- to use everything, meaning it's -ideal- to have all attack units or keep swapping between them which is retarded

>>181019446
Not him, but to be fair I was planning on making an all attack set months before hero was even announced. I just need the next boost week to put it all together and fail all 3 yolo affixes

The only benefit of using all 3 weapons is that it builds gear faster

And thats just based off weapon switching
Not damage done

Of course sega would say you need all stat units. They want the playerbase to be hyped for the entire package. Its the same deal as movie makers saying you need to watch their new stuff on the iMax for the best experience

Is now a good time to jump back in as someone who basically deleted 2 years worth of farming after mother?

Predict class tiers for ep 5

I am going to use single attack type units on hero and you cant stop me
probably even slap 3 fornis for maximum easy mode as well

>>181020440
Fighter
Hero
Braver
Summoner
POWER GAP
POWER GAP
POWER GAP
POWER GAP
The rest of the leech shitter classes

>>181020440
Top tier
Fi

Good tier
Gu
Fo
Su
Te
Hu
Br
Ra

Where is the damage tier
Bo

Are there still urban exit burst parties? I wanna hit 75/75 already, fuck

>>181020440
Fighter
--------
Ranger
Hunter/Braver/Gunner
Force/Summoner/Bouncer/Hero
--------
Techer for buffs

>>181021056
Hero that low?

>>181021081
It will be Force tier. Hero finish is just nerfed compounds. Maybe a bit stronger and closer to Hunter.

>>181021129
you're not factoring in that sega severely undergear their promo videos, so using actual gear the damage will actually be much higher than the shown trailers.

>>181021362
I assure you the Hero damage is close to the real deal. They are probably using some new 13* weapon series for that purpose when at level 75, and Hero tree is most probably simple as fuck.

I don't have any Zeinesis yet, which class should I pick up my first ones for?

>>181021501
FI is strong and will stay strong on EP5
Braver is a nice choice too

If you still cant decide, pick one of the weapons that hero will be using

>>181021751
But most people here seem to think Hero will be weak?

>>181021813
Even if hero was weak, you could still use that weapon on its original class

>sword = hunters
>tmg = gunners
>talis = force/techers

>>181021891
>even if hero is weak, you can still use those weapons on 3 other shit classes

>>181021450
I'm going to disagree. They're using a special camo that I assume is mandatory for hero to play correctly, as all weapons holster as a sword, but I'm going to say they're using bio weapons at best.

Remember how SEGA said they will do something about Maron chaining? I have deduced what their solution was: they came up with an even more OP class.

>>181021751
>FI is strong
How can it be strong when you can't land a hit before knocked down?

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>>181022425

>Fi/Hu tryhards thinking that Hero Class is weak and won't outdamage them on every weapons it can used

stay retarded, tryhards

>>181022810
You're a retard if you can't see Sword topping the tier list in EP5 far ahead of any other pleb classes.

>the shit Fighters babble about to justify not leveling three classes

>Fi/Hu
>being better melee class that don't hit at all

literally leecher class

>>181022810
reminder knuckles are getting buffed

>Force and Summoner STILL crying bitch tears in their cuckshed
I'm lmaoing@urfuckinglyfe rn

>defending a class that getting btfo'd by other melee classes in terms of attack range
>a weapon that has almost zero range getting buffed (hint: knuckles)

Fi's shitty weapons can't compete against hero weapons

This general is reaching peak retardation today

>>181020440
Hero
Summoner
---------------------------------------------
Shitters

You can whine about your class tiers all you want but it doesn't change shit.

Hunter is the Main Character class.

>>181025056
sorry, that's fighter.

>>181020440
Hero/Braver
Summoner
Hunter
Ranger
------------
Fi and other BTFO'd class

>>181025285
nah fuck off supporting cast

Why are people suddenly calling braver good now?

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>>181025624
they are not people

>>181025056
>kumagawa.jpg

Reminder that if you are not taking on all three bosses in Ult Amduscia part at once you are a shitter.

Genocide all space elves

What is Sega so bad at graphigac design? Everything on the new planet from landscape to enemies looks like mud, everything in Tokyo looked like dirt and everything on Wopal looked like algae.

>>181026751
I want neo-/ps/ to leave. Newmen are a proud warrior cat race that gain exp two times faster than humans. And all of them are women, all five of them.

>>181025624
People are bored at the end of an ep and have nothing to do but shitpost before the next one

>>181020440
can't really tell you tiers until Buster Quest releases
I have a bad feeling about Hero though. Particularly Hero gear and finish may be too slow for an above average raid boss EQ. I wouldn't be surprised if people couldn't build enough gear before the first stun on Deus

should I even bother with unlocking hero if it's that shitty?

>>181030781
how's it feel to be mentally retarded?

>>181030941
What? It's a simple question

>>181031115
he's implying it's gonna have le epic level title that gives totally epic mandatory stat boosts!!!!!

>>181031115
Class isn't even out yet, and combining your perfect deduction skills with fully reliable information taken straight from pso2g, you came to the conclusion it's going to be shitty. Yeah, you're retarded.

>Long-time Fighter mains spreading rumors about new class being shitty
>being too cautious ever since being btfo'd by EP4 new class (Summoner)

How can fighter ever learned their lesson

>>181032519
I was never a fighter main until fornis daggers, I'm too much of a shitter to play fi without them and automate.

>>181032519
Even if for some retarded reason Hero is actually designed to be the strongest class in the game (it won't), fighter is still better than every other class.

Will I still be able to get zeins with yamato about to come out? Or should I look somewhere else for a weapon?

>all boosts active, including Mr Umblla's boost and Umblla stick with lucky rise 3
>Izane spawns
>only gives gloamshit and crystals
>none of my partymates picked up an izane unit either
Why must you tease us so, Sega?

>>181032770
After playing Fighter for few weeks w/ full izane unit and 13*/14* weapons for DS/TD/Knuckles. I say it's both easy and hard class to play. The damage is obviously high (maybe due to my experimental build), but the reach is horrible. I played all classes, but Fighter weapons has the shortest range and lots of effort to be able to land a hit or two. LB makes it worse by having huge damage boost for high risk of dying, wasting time dodging and getting closer to target again.

In short, fighter isn't better class. I say Braver is better than un-fun Fighter,

>>181033107
Deus Esca will be scheduled less often but you can still do the files

>>181034904
But it's what, around 30 runs for +35 zeins? If I can only get in like 2 deus a week I'll be cutting it really fucking close

>>181035031
Worst case scenario Deus triggers will probably be added in the next few months. You can probably still do it naturally though

>>181034226
Hey buddy tell sega to add 12* trading and i will give you my dupes
i did not even want them for the whole fi meme but rather because it seemed like a nice set for the average s attack class

>4 runs
>2 tagami's
>no izane

>>181035823
>4 runs
>0 izane
>0 emperuppi

this EQ is shit and izane is a myth

>stinky fighters thinking their shit tier class will be good in ep5
L M A O

Anyone know what all has changed about premium?

I know they removed 10/11/12 star weapon passes since I last played. Did they add anything to premium in compensation?

>>181038735
There's a better drink that's about it

Since the LQ drops fuses, should I be running it non-stop?

Only the XH version of the LQ drops fuses, right?
I'll have to get to 75/75 fucking fast then. How long would it take from 71/68?

>>181039572
Hours

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

AM I PLAYING THE RIGHT GAME?

WHAT KIND OF DARK FALZ IS THIS?

So, are there any guides on mag abilities? Like, revival, invincibility, the elemental shots, et cetera. Frankly, I'm not even sure how they work. Does it select one at random from the list of abilities? Do they each have specific triggers? I don't even know if it's better to have a bunch of them or just a select few so it doesn't fuck it up and choose bad ones.

>>181039742
What's the best way to do it?

>>181040132
The only mag abilities worth a damn are healing A and B and one invincibility trigger at the bottom. They gave up on mags real fast.

>>181039757
Mommy?

>>181040260
exit burst aq

>>181041814
I'm aware of that option, but nobody does that shit anymore sadly.

>>181042020
Should've played when they were doing it then

Is Zeinesis a lot stronger than Astra?

>>181042853
Is that just the PSO2 answer to everything?

>>181044232
yes.

>>181044794
So what are you supposed to do as someone new then?

>>181039757
DARK FALZ (Titty monster)

>>181044885
Play something else, we don't want you.

>>181044885
AQs are still good exp even without exit bursts. They just aren't "3 million in 20 minutes" levels of good.

So what are the big dick drops in this LQ? People have mentioned fuses, how many do you get per run?

>>181045015
But if the option is there, would it still be possible to find people for exit bursts?

>>181045015
Fuck AQs they are shit exp. If you want to level as quickly as possible do all relevant EQs while doing featured quests for bonus keys. Also with someone to carry you you can do the new LQ in around 6-8 minutes and it is a minimum 200k exp a run.

>>181045608
>Also with someone to carry you you can do the new LQ in around 6-8 minutes and it is a minimum 200k exp a run.
At SH? XH version is 75/75 only

>>181045608
>If you want to level as quickly as possible do all relevant EQs while doing featured quests for bonus keys
If by "as quickly as possible" you mean "70-75 in a month" then yeah, sure. An EQ will give you maybe 10%, and you're getting one key per week at most.

If you didn't already level up your shit before, you're fucked now. It's that simple.

>max ability DARKER BUSTERS chip for everyone in es

HOLY SHIT

>>181045831
Fuck off, we're trying to misinform the newfags.

>>181045853
Not the same chip. This one is just extra damage depending on your chip library size.

Dear players with gunner mainclass,
How do you play gu? I cant kill anything with this class
Really considering br as my ratk class for hero req

>>181046396
Braver is best r atk class for hero for people who don't know how to play r atk classes.

You just need gurren tessen and sakura endo type-0 and you can leech your way to 75. I'm doing that and I'm already at 64.

>>181044885
This is one of the worst generals on /vg/, you have to steel yourself if you want to try and sift through the shitposts here for a real answer

>>181045608
>Fuck AQs they are shit exp
They really, really aren't. About 2-6k per mob kill, 10k if it's an infected large mob. 400-600k per kill of a rare infected boss, which you're gonna see a lot because of risk.

>>181046763
>one of the worst generals
People say this in all generals

can someone explain why so many people are averse to partying up for these these lqs or is it just shitters?

>>181047394
>400-600k
What kinds of boosts do you run to get that much, that's more than 75% exp and 100% tri

>>181047591
75+100+50 daily tri+tree boost+40% party multiplier

>>181047571
It's by far the worst out of the 8 or so generals I follow regularly, not counting the generals I no longer visit. Other generals aren't 50% or more shitposts + misinformation and new players who ask questions don't get people jumping down their throat nearly as often as you see in this general. Just look through this thread, it's not uncommon to see 10-20 posts in a row that are just shitposts

>>181047876
>tree boost
Assuming you're in a team
>40% party multiplier
The whole issue is that nobody runs AQs anymore so you'd have to do them solo, if you have a party why not just exit burst?

>>181047876
I forget tree has an exp boost, that's what I left off.

>>181048129
Take 3 NPCs with you for a 25% multiplier, then.

>>181048085
/fgg/, /xivg/, /sc2g/, and this gen are the worst gens on this board

Will I still get badges from the LQ if I let the timer run out?

>>181049479
It will affect the rank. You will get less, but probably still get some.