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Fuck pagans Edition

New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - FREE FOR ALL, Magic, Campaign, Fortress Gate Battles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgjUxVPtY4

Campaign map flyover for WH2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - Dragons, New Units, Geomantic Web, DLC Plans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48El9jBvr0

Mazdamundi's Skill Tree/Misc Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkUBoGptGI

Articles on Warhammer 2:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/15724926/total-war-warhammer-2-e3-preview-hands-on
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/02/segas-creative-asssembly-unveils-a-massive-new-world-for-total-war-warhammer-ii/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-02-everything-weve-learnt-about-total-war-warhammer-2

Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y

Lizardmen and High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyRy3OUtKg [
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMR08CpxCU
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/

>Warhammer II
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Vision Dev Diary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g

>DEAD Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

Campaign-posting and screenshot-sharing encouraged

Old thread: >>180680758
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

I have seen the end of threads and posts from now shitposters will say...

Here began the fall of /twg/
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why the skirmisher is a manlet
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History and fantasy living in harmony stop watching muppets on youtube.
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>Nagash STILL not announced
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G O B L I N S
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Yes for Napoopan-Victoria.

No for chinamen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06643umEJZg
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>>180762213
skirmishers were typically teenagers, adult men could afford equipment and became heavy infantry
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>>180762335
Napoopan and Bismarck united against Cao Cao
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Is Total War: WARHAMMER worth getting?
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>>180762473
Yes

t. Histfag
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REMINDER TO REJECT CA'S KROXIGOR ADAPTION.
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Playing Welfs for the first time.
Confederate or conquer the other welfs?
Also what should I build first in King's Glade?
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RAPTORS HAVE SQUIG ANIMATIONS
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>tfw no skaven news for another couple months

kill me
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>>180762560
I usually confederate. They tend not to attack you much but spend most of their time glaring at you, so I just go crusade for the glory of the Tree Reich in the Badlands/Norsca.
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>180762378

why manlets are eternal teenagers
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>>180762310
Oh baby we're havin' chitlins tonight.
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just got Attila, played a game as the Sassanids and feel... bored. Anyone got the roll image? Want to try a harder, smaller faction.
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any recommendation on where to start with tw for a newbie?
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>>180763074
>play saxons
>migrate to Egypt
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>>180763157
S H O G U N 2
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>>180762638
Fibber.
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>>180721791
It would be. GoT is shit setting itself and terrible one for Total War game, series focused on battles. The only really detailed part of this world is Westeros which is also the only one place that matters. So basically all armies would be copies of each other. TW:GOT wouldn't utilize almost any opportunities fantasy worlds give, so it is just better to make historical title instead. GoT works the best in CK, though.

Honestly, Warhammer is probably the best choice they could make with making fantasy game. They can put all things they couldn't and will never put in historical titles. Not only Warhammer have both bows and gunpowder, but also magic, monsters, necromancy, corruption, even fucking tanks and helicopters. Warhammer have everything, every other fantasy world would be mechanically inferior.

Only Age of Mythology could be equally fun.
Why the fuck there is no Age of Mythology mod yet, all you have to do is to add monsters to army rosters. You can even pull it off in Attila and Rome 2
Is there?

>>180744191
No one cares about strategy games and crackers do it for fame and all those different kinds of (you)s they get in various places. All strategy games players of all sub-generes are autistic, so most of people who wanted to play this already bought it and spent hundreds of hours in it. Thus only miniority of miniority haven't played it yet, so why bother?
Also Warhammer was (and still is) constantly updated with fixes and new content in form of dlc and flc.
>Pirate cucks probably won't be able to play on combined world map.
Feels good man.
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>>180763246
I still occasionally play against bots in this game.
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>>180763183
I once did that. It was easier than I thought.
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>>180763157
Any of them. Pick your favorite period.
Shogun 1 plays like ass though and you can just auto-battle to victory instead of having everything be mapped to left click.

Medieval 2 is still good but you have a lot of work to do with remapping controls to get WASD working.
Rome 1 still feels really nice I think. Launching pila and murdering like 30 troops is always great. Cavalry hits hard, onagers are inaccurate as fuck, balista and scorpions are fine, I think.

Shogun 2 is fantastic. Every unit has a purpose, archers are the strongest in that game than any other.

Warhammer feels and sounds fanfuckingtastic. Some people complain that the battles are too fast though but I think it's fine.
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>>180763183
might just play a game as the saxons then
just rape and pillage my way around europe
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What do you think it feels like?
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>watch any video on youtube speculating about the next historical title

>MUH MEDIEVAL THREEEEEEE
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Does CA have a barbar fetish?
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HOBGOBLINS
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>>180762560
Confederate is easier, because it's forced. But there is also a chance to snipe their cities if they send their stacks away.
Don't forget to demand max gold from them when you confederate. But farming enough Amber can be tricky. Try to focus on tech that gives a diplomatic boost, Bretonnia for example can be good source as military allies. Be careful with randomly making defence and military pacts, because you can get dragged into unnecessary wars. If possible, postpone it until you have enough possible Amber to start upgrading Oak of Ages right away.

Appease surrounding factions around and make sure that they are busy with themselves instead of you. Force Belegar and co focus on orcs and Skarsnik. Bretonnia should be occupied with Marienburg, Mousilon and Karak Ziflin. You should be wary about other Wood Elves, because then can go to war with you and snipe Oak of Ages. Usually, it's happens through alliances with Bretonnia. Tilea has a high chance of attacking you. Make sure you have a built Guard Platform in King's Glade.

Hire Tree Hero and immediately disband him, especially after you get a tech for 2 hero ranks and spec in healing spells. Rehire him for free if you see bad guys coming toward your cities/outposts.

Early game, having a negative income is fine, your main source of income should be raiding and razing.

I recommend travelling towards Badlands and farming low defence Orc cities here. It also gives nice diplo boost, try to work toward an alliance with Dwarves and Border Princes. You can also nab some harbour cities if you want. Don't make war with all Orc factions, especially if they are fighting against other greenskins. Bloody Handz and Grimgor faction should be enough. Make good use of Waystalker and use him as a scout (he has insane map vision) so you wouldn't run into scary situations and lookout for an easy prey.
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>>180762473
Worth buying? No.
Worth pirating? Yes.

Play VC, Empire and Dorfs, stay away from everything else.
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>>180764534
>Worth buying

It's dirt cheap at the moment
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>>180762473

yes considering it's cheap as fuck right now
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>>180764691
Still not worth it.
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>>180764829
How is it worth your time if it's so bad?
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>>180764691
>>180764829

Its not worth donating money when you can get the same good game for free.
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>>180764923
Sequel already got greenlighted and is halfway done apparently and they got all that money from greedy DLC practises.

So yeah. is fun, but not worth it.
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>>180765078
You'll need both games to make the third and final one worth getting.
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>>180765206
Is getting shilled to dead, so I expect good sales.
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>>180762560
>what build first
Wines and guard platform should be a priority. Look out for a negative happiness, and build +public order buildings if needed.
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Vampire Counts or Von Carsteins for campaign?
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>>180765762
Vampire Counts if it's your first Vampire campaign.
Von Carstein if you know what you're doing.
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>>180765762
vampire counts, run only kemmler and ghorst. Manlet is for babies.
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>East Roman Empire
>struggling with eastern borders
>important trade partner and ally, Judea, asks for military assistance against Sassanid empire
>"well I'm really hard pressed but I need the trade so I'll send an army"
>get down there and save their ass
>next turn they make peace with sassanids
>a couple turns later they end trade agreement


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tobdvMeZ_o
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anyone else having crashes after like 1 or 2 battles in Warhammer? What do?
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>>180766164


gotta be a little more specific on when these crashes occur, famalam
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>>180766164

Install a real TW game
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Is the battle judge broken in Warhammer or what? I've had multiple battles which should have been decisive victories at the least but I they're considered as "close victories" instead despite me taking very small losses and the enemies' armies being absolutely annihilated with the foe having more troops at the start.

I've had some weird pyrrhic victories as well, pic related (I have no clue why it's so dark, just used f12). According to auto resolve my chances were close to zero. Louen Leoncouer was already very low health before the fight even began so it can't be because of health damage on the lord.
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>>180766456
Maybe was a bit wrong on the description, but after a battle or two, the loading screen just freezes in the middle, music still plays but the loading bar doesn't move an inch
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>>180766456
>>180766814
The *loading screen after the battle of course
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>>180765917
lmao
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Just finished my first Wood Elf campaign. Feel free to tear apart the army comp i used to win the final battle. Just a couple things i want to mention cause why not.

First thanks to the anon a thread or 2 ago that mentioned to mostly ignore the gpt and just get my income from razing/fighting. Made it so much easier to play till i got the confederations and whatnot all together.

Other then that holy shit wild riders are awesome. It seems like the ranged assassin hero kinda sucks in actual battles. The dragons you get are instant enemy break machines. And finally are all hawk units shit? I kept the hawk archer you started with around all game and while it was a help early on it really felt like it never did anything all that amazing later.
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>Delfs recapture Ulthuan
>Can't move capital to Anlec
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>>180766739

The battle judge in Warhammer is very fucking picky. I've had like two or three heroic victories in all my hours with it.
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>>180767109

Breddy gud but needs more Trees.
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>>180766814

is windows still responsive if you alt-tab?

i assume you've verified game cache
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How long does it take you to complete a campaign? Real time/playtime/# of turns? Are some games/special campaigns significantly longer or shorter than others?
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>>180767463
Yes, I can exit the game using alt tab and close it with task manager normally, but the loading bar will never progress after reaching the middle
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>>180767109

I'd maybe switch out the Eternal Guard with Asrai Spears if my economy was going well but looks good anyway,
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>>180767635

See if the same thing happens if you launch the game and play a couple of custom battles or if it only happens in the campaign.

A reinstall should fix it, if it's the legit steam version, if its the pirated version you're pretty much screwed.
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>when the chivalry hits
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>>180767109
I feel Hawkriders are a somewhat awkward unit in that they can do some ranged damage and some ap damage on the charge, but are outperformed in both areas by other units (Glade Riders, Eagles).

Also, this makes me want to do an elf-only campaign; I got a mainline of Treekin as soon as possible and I honestly feel it made things a tad too easy.
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>>180769047
Eagles are fucking shit nigger
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>>180769047
>I got a mainline of Treekin
What a fag, I bet you eat salad too
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>>180769287
More like he makes his enemies do.
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>>180768982
Your lady is an elf.
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>>180770238
Boy I will turn you into that Beastman.
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>tfw You routed the first of three Chaos Armies on the field, but 80%of your ammo is gone
At least Eryon's legs are still hanging in there...
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Just played the dwarf campaign and their bonuses they get to dwarf warriors are insane as well as the economy buffs.
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>>180770491
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>>180770886
Peasant revolt when
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The daemon has been vanquished, /twg/...

The useless humans do not but squabble among themselves. The elves had to take fate into their own hands.
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>>180770886
>>180771019
Peasants and imperial currs without chivalry are not welcome in this general.
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>>180771147

Barbaric vainglorious filth like you is as welcome as Chaos in this thread.
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>>180771067
>Using edgelord rangers
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>>180771147
Who feeds the Knights?
Who forges their weapons?
Who builds their castles?
Who fights their wars?

Peasants of Bretonnia, unite!
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>>180771265
Men of the Empire let peasants and gunpowder do their work for them. Weak and sad little men whose lives revolve around the pursuit of personal profits and have no concept of martial honour.

>>180771327
My dear little odourous peasant, without us you wouldn't know how to survive. Who takes the food from your mouths and distributes it fairly among the stinky populace. Why, without our aid you'd sit on your peasanty butt all day and mistake your wife for your pig.
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Why are umgis bickering again?
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>>180771639
>without us you wouldn't know how to survive

Not an issue, we'll just invite Karl Franz to set up Bretonnia as an imperial province.
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>playing Attila
>pick the allamans
>migrate to arabia felix
>convert to judaism
>put this music in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU&t=1s
>mfw
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>>180771327
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>>180771940
Fuck off Mel Gibson
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>>180771940
>t. beastmen

Opinion discarded.
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>>180771940
> says the Mel Gibson literally composed of dead elf-men
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>>180771940
Even the peasants speak out against you, vile beastman. >>180772023 >>180772057 >>180772260
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Glorious peasant revolution!

Overthrowing the vain and arrogant noble-bloods!

Putting them on trial and hanging them!

Selling their daughters to brothels and their sons into slavery!

Establishment of a republic!

Vive la Brettonia!
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>>180773028

>Socialists

No thank you.
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Ok, I need to wake up in 7 hours to go to work

0-4 go to sleep
5-9 play total war
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>>180773028
Nice republic you're establishing there...

Be a shame if someone found the Bretonnian crown in the gutter and picked it up.
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So I have a question about Marienburg. Its a free city right? But everytime I meet marienburg its conquered by Bretonnia. I play the Empire right now and I'm thinking about waging war against Bretonnia, but who does it really belong to? To the Empire or to Bretonnia? Of course Bretonnia will be a massive nation by then, so I'm not sure if a full on war with another big nation will be worth it. Since I will probably have trouble with Chaos tribes from the north, vampires to the southeast and Orcs to the south...
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>>180769047
eagles are shit in every way. Hawk riders will kill what you want the eagles to kill in a fraction of the time in melee and can mess up armoured units really good as well.
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>>180773192
>tfw no napoleonian faction in Warhammer
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>>180773304
Marienburg is rightful Imperial clay
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>>180773178
Fact: Some type of social safety net is necessary for a healthy society, in spite of it being abused by the lazy in recent years.

This anti-socialism sentiment is why middle class Americans are forced to live with injury and illness, because if they go to the doctor they will forever be in debt.
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>>180771267
>that image
Jesus christ.
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How does one actually Chaos horde management,

when should I be starting new stacks
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>>180773304
Marienburg is a free city that bought their independence from the Empire. However, the Empire is full of peasants, so all Imperial clay belongs to Bretonnia because peasants are incapable of ruling themselves.
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>>180773357
>no glorious Emperor to die for
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>>180773424

So should I wage war against Britain?
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>>180773575

Ahem, I meant Bretonnia of course.
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>>180773575
>britain

DIMENSION HOPPING LONGBOWMEN
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>>180773575
>>180773719
Let no inch of Empire clay be in the hands of those who do not deserve it. And Marienburg deserves to be bullied and beaten, they are terrible people.
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>it's been confirmed that unit formations still wont be in the game in Warhammer 2
This is fucking lame.

Where's my Ironbreaker shield wall?

I don't get why they only gave it to Bretonia with their wedge formation.
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>>180773575
>""""Great""" Britain
>""""United"""""" ""King""dom
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>>180774275
But that stuff is too complicated and in-depth anon

;^)


enjoy you blobs running into other blobs until one blob dies.
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>>180774275
As if dwarfs aren't overpowered enough without formations giving them MORE defensive bonuses.
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>>180774298

I thought Karl Franz is German? Or atleast inspired by germans? Isn't Ulthuan great britain in the warhammer universe?

Besides its just because their names sound so similar.
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> CA actually does Araby
> the first LL is a random OC they create
> the second LL is Sultan Jaffar, evidently not dead
> "A THOUSAND YEARS WILL GIVE YOU SUCH A CRICK IN THE NECK!"
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>>180774509
Don't ask me, I'm just shitposting lad
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>>180774509
Karl Franz and the Empire are based on renaissance HRE, so they should have German accents but this is rarely done in Warhammer video games becuase it's easier to do Brit accents.

The High Elves take from a lot of historical empires such as the British, Chinese, and Greeks, without visually looking like any particular one. Ulthuan is Atlantis.
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>>180774509
Albion is Britain.
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>>180774379
>enjoy you blobs running into other blobs until one blob dies.
Anon we're talking about Warhammer, not Attila! :P
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Anyone else worried they will make the Skaven just reskinned orc troops with a corruption mechanic ?
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>>180774379
>unit formations abilities
>complex

Pick one.

It's not like medieval 2 combat was less complex than rome 2 because it had just a few formations that nobody used(like schiltrom) compared to Rome 2's numerous formation abilities, which were all broken.
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>>180773474
It's 2006 my man. You excited for Medieval II?
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>>180775156
>>180774509
Forgot pic
>>180775195
Low quality bait
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>>180775204

Its gonna be exactly that with a plague meter that magically spawns a Skaven army if a city's plague is high enough

Also Rat underways
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>>180774473
>take away mandatory charge defence on all dwarf units
>charge defence is now tied to shield wall ability which puts your units in very tight formation and increases their mass significantly & defence a bit but they're immobile.
game improved 100%

Units automatically bracing when stationary is dogshite compared to tactical formations.
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>>180774379

>dying
>not routing

learn to play
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>>180775204
I'm worried the blowback when they reveal that the 4th race is Tomb Kings will sink CA.
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So the mod I'm using has some unexpected effects.

It's a mod to prevent confederations for the AI.

It ended up making Varg go to war with Skaelig [Skaelig won] and Warherd of Chaos killed Chaos warriors off. This shit is hilarious
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>>180775313
You know you love my posts :D
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So plague of rust is the only worthwhile spell, right?
Like I can focus on general skills after that?
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>>180775383
>Units automatically bracing when stationary

Has been a thing in all the games basically though.
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>>180775204
well goblins troops & skaven troops will obviously be very similar but other than that the skaven roster is entirely different so there isn't anything to reskin.

>>180775260
>detecting sarcasm
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First play through on Attila with WRE guy here. how does religious conversion work for a faction? I want to convert the WRE to Roman paganism. Should I just raise the percentage of that religion with in the empire and it'll happen on it's o\wn or do I have to do something special?

Or should i just stay with christianity?
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>>180775313
Who own Albion?
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>>180775313
Man that map is outdated

>>180775663
>>detecting sarcasm

Kinda hard to say what it was a jab against if it was sarcasm.
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>>180775749
Fimir
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>>180775639
Hadn't even noticed cos in all the other games I can put my anvil into SPEAR WALL because that's what disciplined military forces do.

Dwarfs even had a rule called "shield wall" to reflect the fact they use shield walls all the time but for some reason the devs didn't link this to giving them the ability.
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>>180771795
>>180773028
>peasants having any form of intelligence
>peasants fighting nobles

you really dont know bretonnian lore do you?
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>turn 1 Vandals
>Alamans attack one of my treasured stacks with all their might
>their troops are numerically and qualitatively superior
>position my troops
>with the eye of a strategic genius I spot a small forest where I proceed to hide my dogs
>enemy approaches past my dog forest, bloody fighting ensues, the enemy is gaining the upper hand
>the time has come to release my hounds
>enemy backline panics, a company of nobles and the enemy's general tries to aid them
>they get bogged down by dogs as their archers desert them
>cav charge from two sides and turn the general to mush
>total victory and complete annihilation of the Alemanni forces

Currently besieging their capital, I've decided to sack it as punishment and then enslave them.
They will probably rebel after getting the sack, but I need to money because I recruited some nice cav that will give me the edge on the battlefield in future encounters

Also the Romans were very pleased with my vanquishing of the barbarian hordes and want to pay 2.000 (two thousand) money for a non aggression pact.


Should I take the Roman bribe money and fuck around in Germania for 10 turns?
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Literally why
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>>180775835
it's obviously a jab against people who say unit formations don't add any tactical depth because it's just mandatory button pressing.

Which is obviously bullshit because they added them to Bretonia and it adds a lot of tactical depth to a faction which is fairly bland.
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Loot & occupy isn't so bad for Marineburg...
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>>180775873
>all the other games I can put my anvil into SPEAR WALL

Not prevalent in Rome 1 and Medieval 2.

Putting your units in shield wall in Rome 2 and Attila(last one might have been patched) was a dumb idea because the unit would turn sideways mid-melee or after a melee.
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>>180776145
I'm pretty sure you can just loot the town and occupy in the same turn if you still have movement points which gives you way more money.
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>>180776063
Well then my first reply was correct then. I wouldn't say wedge adds A LOT of tactical depth to Bretonnia, but ok. It's nice to have anyway.
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>>180775898
>Admires Eastern Germanic Tribes
The Emperor is my biggest fan!

I will sack his Rome so fucking hard
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>>180776226
You use spear wall all the time in Attila and haven't played rome 2 but from the sounds of it you're saying shieldwall was bad because it didn't work properly which is kind of irrelevant.

If you want a feature it's safe to assume you want it implemented functionally.
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>>180776307
You mean sack and then resiege it?
I should have tried.
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Why does bullying ERE feel so right?
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>>180776805
delete this
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>>180776595
>Fimir
how's the mod for warhammer that adds formations? is it any good or is it bad?
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>>180776595
I am just saying it didn't make Medieval 2 and so on less complex.

How army formations as a whole works is what is important, not individual unit formation abilities. Attila battles are less complex because putting your whole melee line in spaghetti line is basically what you always should do.
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>>180774653
>jaffar is a secret necromancer

Or

>it's sultan jaffar the 22nd
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>>180775313
>yeah the british isles are great and all but WHAT IF WE MADE EVEN MORE ISLES?
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>>180777486
What if Jaffar is a genie who had just been freed after being imprisoned in a lamp by a plucky street urchin and his monkey?
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Guys i'm not so sure anymore

what if Nagash was actually strong?
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>>180777815
Nagash a shit
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>>180777702
>>180777486
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>>180762307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbgRyColvE&t=31s
Make me
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>>180773531
He'd be Tilean.
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I did a meme hope you like it :)
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>>180775303
It was the first TW game I pre-ordered with my own money from my first job.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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>>180774653
>All voicelines are taken straight from Attila
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>>180778487
>Dad bought me the boxed set with a map and shit
>He died in February
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>>180779035
pls don't make me feel that feel anon
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Is there a list of historically used formations anywhere? I want to try them out in TW to see how they fare.
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>>180779623
This is actually the only formation that historians have been able to discern
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>>180779623
h-here you go pfffffffffffffffffffffheheheheh
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Never played any of the Orcs before so im gonna give them a go. Should i go with Greenskin, Bloody Handz or Crooked Moon?
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>>180779035

>My brother who was struggling in the past with his finances bought it for me when I was young. A couple of days after release.
>Today I'm known in my whole family as a lazy, useless guy and my brother always tries to avoid meething me. When he has no other choice though, he only makes fun of me or insults me. He must really hate me.
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>>180778487

>tfw rome 2 was the first game you bought with your own money from your first job

I played rome total war when i was an infant
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>>180780016
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>>180780358
>self employed live at home lazy ass
>make enough to pay all my own bills but not much more
>excitement for TW:W2 motivates me to make some money for a new pc
>manage to pull in $800 a week for 5 weeks and buy new pc and monitor
>back to being a lazy piece of shit and barely working
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>>180780192
I personally dislike the waagh mechanic so I go for crooked moon and skarsnik treats me well. But id say for a first orc experience go with grimgor to get familiar with the faction.
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>>180779623

try to pull a cannae and see how it goes

elite troops to the sides, weak units in the center overstretched, cav hunting enemy general enemy cav
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How do I even start out as Manny? PLS HELP
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Is this what we've been waiting for?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952084679
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>>180780913
Haven't played Manny since Vlad got his own faction, but I'd assume you'd start by uniting Sylvania.
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>>180780913
Run around everybody's legs and stab them in the shins until you get a dragon so you can be taller.
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>>180780913
Raise the dead and stomp Templehof's ass in the field turn 1. Then raise more dead and siege their walled settlement turn two and take it. Clean up Eastern Sylvania before you turn your attention to Vlad Dad.
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>>180775906
You have to trust them if they're gonna stab you in the back.
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>>180780636
>manage to pull in $800 a week for 5 weeks and buy new pc and monitor

tfw trying to this too
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>>180781013
Is it compatible with Radious?
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>>180780636
What do you do for work?
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>>180778454
I like it!
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>>180779623
Watch Baz Battles, that describes some.
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>>180781575
Massage therapist. Ez work. ez hours. lots of time for vidya. just gotta make the effort to find clients every now and again
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>>180781184
I can handle that first battle no problem, but I end up with the forces from Templehof reinforcing Eschen into a fucking 3-army clusterfuck for me.
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>regiments of renown are available in multiplayer
>but only for those who bought the DLC
Literally p2w.
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>>180781930
>there are actual gay homos posting on /twg/
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>>180767563
>complete
honestly I sometimes don't go for the complete victory, usually the short victory. But sometimes I just get a point where I just drop a campaign because I know I can win, but it's just such a fucking slog that it isn't worth it.

My most recent VC campaign was like that. I kicked the shit out of chaos while empire and mountain jews massed units and everytime I chased one away, the other came back and pushed me back. It just wasn't worth it
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>>180781575
Camshows
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When are we getting RoR for Bret and Welves. I know WoC RoR will come with the third TWWH
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>>180782187
Approximately never ever.
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>>180767563
100 to 150 turns

Maybe about 8 to 10 hours for a campaign
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>>180782187
No dlc for dlc.
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>>180782187
Tomorrow
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>>180782187
Either never ever or as free DLC after W2 comes out
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>>180782047
>you will never find a TRVE VNDERSTANDER bf to hammer your anvil
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>>180781968
If you obliterate the army that takes shelter in Castle Templehof, I don't see how they could create a second and third army before you move on Eschen. You should only be fighting their new army and the Eschen garrison.

In any case, raise as many troops as you can for the fight, then zap their general(s) with spirit leech and smack them around between the Varghulf and Manny.
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>>180781013
CA already said this is coming in an update with the W2 launch

Poor modder
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Don't underestimate crossbows. They shoot faster, farther, and over your lines.
You can focus 3 of them on an enemy missile troop and route them very quickly then mop up any assholes standing around with their backs or flanks exposed.
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>>180782424
>Tomb Kings probably won't have Reskins of Renown
Fuck, it just hit me.
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>>180782778
Yeah they wont

Post release DLC will be RoR for Skaven v Lizards then High v Dark elves.

Only chance is if they do it for free for TK. They really didnt think this DLC policy through very well.
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>>180782916
>They really didnt think this DLC policy through very well
Kinda, but buying DLC for DLC would've been pretty fucking stupid anyway.
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While we're talking undead, is Isabella any good? Seems like getting four buffed vampires right at the start of the game would be pretty decent.
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>>180783160
Oh wait, TK could release with RoR

It would cost more, but you would get them from the start
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>>180783165
all vc is overpowered as fuck

the better question is which faction will be the new fotm for CA in W2. I bet its high elves.
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>>180783165
>playing as an undead roastie
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>>180783165
Yeah, she's great. The vampires still won't be invincible in combat or anything, but they'll tear shit apart pretty well.
Getting them at the start also means a shitload of free growth, considering it takes Vampire Cunts ages to start unlocking agents.

>>180783329
>cost more
>for a bunch of fancy reskins
Please no.
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Can I end a non-agression pact and attack in the same turn for no diplomatic penalty in TW:W?
Averland declared war on me and Wissenland is like, right there.
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>>180784135
>for no diplomatic penalty
Breaking a non-aggression pact and attacking in 10 turns is a negative against you for all factions

It makes you 'unreliable'
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>>180784280
Shit.
Noted to break it the moment I start any Empire game.
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>only just realizing now that in FotS ship guns never break and you only run out of crew and as long as you have the crew they'll run to which ever gun is in range.

neat.
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What would you think of bronze age total war?
What other time periods are there? Ww1 is as far as you can go and that's stretching it
>Russia total war, early 19 century setting, about the rise of communism and the several wars and civil wars
>China total war, takes place around napoleon era or earlier
>middle east total war, more Middle East focused from late Roman to late medevil times, includes things like the rise of islam
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>>180786482
40k Total War, do shit on the Epic scale. TITANS, NIGGUH.
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>>180786562
>epic 40k
could work.


>>180786482
Victoria with a ww1 expansion was always kind of wanted after Fall of the samurai.

medieval but not just europe, all of eurasia. make it mongol themed. literally go anywhere.

Empire or 30 year war would also be interesting.

South america total war 1800-1900
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>>180786482
Bronze Age China :^)
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>>180786482
South East Asia, probably 1400 to 1700 would be good. The barbars of Asia, with lots of silly fun and Westerners showing up for fun too.
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>>180786562
Ehhhh. Yes to 40k, no to Epic. I don't see that being as entertaining as man-to-man-to-daemon combat.

I dunno how you could do the campaign map though really. You'd need to do multiple planets and have a space map too. Seems a bit too big for a Total War game.
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>>180787490
You don't wanna do that bruh. It just wouldn't be good in the total war engine.
Company of heroes yes, total war? No.
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>>180783702
>Tomb kangs mini campaign
>Faction for the grand campaign
>RoR units for said faction

30 dollaridoos thank you very much. Pay up anon.
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>>180786482

>What other time periods are there? Ww1 is as far as you can go and that's stretching it

a Victoria total war would work. start at maybe the 1820s/30s and go to around 1890/1900.
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>>180786482
Their own setting that's an excuse to pit various factions from different time periods against each other while also adding their own flavor units for the sake of balance and fun. Or Emberverse, but with the various places listed as cannibal/tribal filled out for the sake of variety.
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>>180787490
>I dunno how you could do the campaign map though really. You'd need to do multiple planets and have a space map too. Seems a bit too big for a Total War game.
Make the campaign map a single (admittedly huge) city. Something something mcguffin of ultimate power, everyone shows up to try to grab it.
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Is Araby as backwards as brettonia in terms of military tecnology and tactics or are they sort like the arab world during the early renaissance?
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FOR THE LADY

FOR THE KING

FOR BRETTONIA
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Alright.
I'm tired of it.
Is there a mod that makes searing doom worth using other than making fun explosions?
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>>180788335
If they're going to make it a city in 40K just make Total War: Necromunda and be done with it, you get at least 2 or 3 flavors of gangs, the police force of the hive, the ecclesiarchy, the inquisition all with a nice healthy dose of chaos cultists and pants thiefs all vying for control and survival in a Hive city.
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>>180788456
They have firearms at least.
And they have excellent alchemists, astronomers and mathematicians.

So on a par with the other non-Bretonnian Old World nations I'd say.
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>>180786482
Bronze age was mad boring. Nothing was really happening, it was mostly just a bunch of nascent civilizations beating each other over the heads with clubs and cutting each other with blades.

WWI total war would force them to change the formula somewhat, since warfare during that war was extremely methodical and attrition based.

But the Warhammer IP has shown that they can go beyond their comfort zone and actually get creative, rather than just make the same game over and over.

Most of the games will tend to be eurocentric, because that's the direction most of the culture leans towards in the west. But they have a ton of European epochs they haven't done.
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>>180789142
LMAO historycucks think that CA is ever going to go back to subsistence development when they can make them fantasy dollars.
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>>180788290
actually knew a setting similar to that.

fuck have to remember it.

A bunch of civil war americans end up in some weird land, and it turns out its this other world where all sorts of disappeared civilizations have emerged from displaced peoples, so you have a russia and a china, but they're very under developed, and they have to fight these monstrous hordes that ride around and treat human like cattle, and and are basically super horse fuckers.

and the americans start fighting them using their technical expertise to start making gun powder and build industry.

can't for the life of me remember the book.
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>>180788781
Err... I don't really use mods but if I install this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=716938113
Will I need to start a new save?
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>>180789142
>But they have a ton of European epochs they haven't done.

not to mention that more focused expansions are fun too.
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>>180767109

>Hawk Riders at full health with 30 kills

Stop using them as a ranged unit and you'll see their value.
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>>180789142
Bronze Age has a lot of interesting stuff, and the lack of strong record means CA can go hog wild with fun OC donut steel units like Arcanii.
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>confederate all the elven factions
>amber is down the pooper because of how many elite units they have
>chaos and beastmen are right around the corner so i need a fighting force

Why did they make the amber mechanic?
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>>180773575

Bretonnia is france. Breton is literally the french word for french.
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I'd reckon there's still no mod to make WRE tier 3/4 settlements not look like absolute garbage?
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>>180773575
>no Albion faction ever
>cavemen covered in woad using branches and rocks
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>>180790367
>Breton is literally the french word for french.

No it isn't
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>>180790285
To give the Welves a reason to leave their stinking forest.
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>>180775741
Get the overall religious belief to 35%, then click convert
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>>180790578
>Rouge armies confirmed to be able to settle and become factions

Albion soon™
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>>180775741
The Latin Christianity building chain gives you huge boosts in sanitation. There really isn't any point in going back to paganism other than Varg memes.
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>>180790367
>>180791037
Bretonnia is both France and Britain. Arthurian legend and French stuff mixed together.
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>>180791856
It's more like an Arthurian-Norman hybrid.
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>>180791842
Those "huge" boosts in sanitation are wasted compared to Graeco-Roman passive buffs, and the tier 4 GR buildings like Sol Invictus or the Imperial Cult have some of the best bonuses in the game.
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>>180765917
E X T E R M I N A T E
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Satsuma republic legendary run.

this is going to be an interesting war.
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>>180791856
Britain exists in Warhammer. It's called Albion and it's Pict-Celts on a misty island.
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>>180792023
>Imperial Cult
>Sol invictus.

what are these?
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>>180762213
What's the point of being big as a skirmisher? You'll just be an easier target.
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How can we prove that history was real? What separates that which is fictional from that which is factional?
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>>180775741
Demolish all churches asap so they don't convert your population, build theatres, and once your % of belief in graeco-roman reaches 35 you can convert from the faction summary screen.
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>>180794089
being thicc to help your throw further.

scrawny manlets in the front eat the first volleys
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>>180794607
Lithe sensual manlets can dodge incoming javelins, jarids, veretums, pilums, and more with ease.
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>>180794347
No historian is unbiased, therefore no history can be trusted. No one interpretation is more valid than another, so my interpretation is as legitimate as that of one backed by 'research' and 'historical accounts'.

Incidentally my thesis is on the Western Chagatai Khanate through a lens of post-marxist literary theory and furry fandom.
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>>180795176
We wuz kangs
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>>180794347

I don't know

It doesn't help that historians usually are butthurt as fuck about what they write
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>>180795176
That's a pretty shitty parody of the current state of historical research and discourse.
Although as someone doing a history phd, there is a certain amount of wankery terminology used in reference to frameworks and theory, but it seems to be window dressing at the beginning and end of works. It's not wholesale pseudobabble for its own sake.
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>>180788684
FOR THE GRAIL
FOR THE KING
FOR THE LADY
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Are the Slavs in Attila any FUN?
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>>180792602
That's dark age Britain, or celtic Britain. Feudal britain/arthurian britain is Bretonnia along with feudal france
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>>180797592
Play them and be amazed at how broken poison arrows could have been had they not used Attila as a test bed.
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Africa Total War.
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>>180797592
One of the laziest DLC CA has pushed out in recent years. Tech tree is exactly same as the one Germanic and viking factions have including techs like "heavy cavalry tactics" even though Slavs don't have any cavalry worth mentioning.
Only thing they have going for the are the poison archers which honestly feel like cheating. A single arrow can somehow kill about 1/4 of the unit it hits and also makes them exhausted for the rest of the battle.

I wouldn't have bought them if i had known how cheap the poison archers feel like when used against the AI.
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I need help, just started playing total war warhammer and I'm getting fucked by dwarfs as orcs. They just keep sacking or destroying my settlements and its taking forever to build anything. how do I get good?
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>>180800507
get a whaagh and just keep the momentum up.
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STOP FUCKING SIEGING MARINEBURG, LEON!
FUCK YOU!
FUCKING CUNT!

God damn it. I swear to God. Doesn't matter what save I load, doesn't matter if I start new. That's what he's doing now.
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>>180800507
waagh harder
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>>180801176
hon hon hon hon hon
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>>180801176
Why would you stop daddy Napoleon from conquering Marienburg. Are you some kind of disgusting Briton?
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>>180800507
Just beat their ass.
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>>180793073
The highest buildings of Graeco-Roman paganism, exclusive to WRE and ERE.

Search the wiki, there are 5 of them
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Is it normal to only enjoy playing Greenskin factions?

I just want to smash and chop, none of that gay honour and diplomacy shit.
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>>180802364
Greenskins are fun because you still have the fun of managing your civilization but also the wanton destruction and murderin' like Chaos
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>>180786482

World War 1 isn't about regiment warfare so it could never work in total war.
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>>180797754

Arthurian Britain IS Dark Age Britain. Arthur was a Romano-Celt who struggled to defend Britannia against the Saxons and Pictish invaders after the fall of the WRE.

But you're right, half of the chivalry stuff is just ripped from Arthur.
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>>180802593
So much this. I wish the people that think WWI would be a good idea would go fuck themselves and play Verdun
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>tfw Gelt stuck holding Helmgart against pissy elves for like 20 turns because Leo couldn't hold his shit down
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>>180762308
WHERE DO THESE KEEP COMING FROM
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>>180802593
world war one is about changing tactics and new weapons and a uncertain time period where any power could have won victory. thats the very definition of total war.

as for battles. properly timed artillery strikes and assaults through defenses.

the reason why it wouldn't work is because to really make a good ww1 game you'd need a new engine and a dynamic battle field to make use of craters and static set up defenses.

it'd essentially be a game where you could set up trench lines and defenses with your infantry and then proceed to try to defend or take the computers trench.

it could work, but i don't think CA can do it with its current engine. And I doubt it'd be the head line game.
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>>180804575
I'd rather SEGA put the Company of Heroes team on a WWI game than CA.
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>>180802364
This is why I'm excited for Norsca
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>>180804732
fair enough, and i'd rather have a full eurasia mongolian focused campaign.
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>>180804817
Kind of like Attila on crack with more land? I could get down with that
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>>180802593

We already have wargame and steel division, which are the closer to a ww2 or cold war total war we could get
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Fuck it. Just make Steampunk total war so you can have your Victorian TW with regiments and it doesn't have to make sense. You can balance the units because they're all made up anyway.
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>>180804732
and I want to die

we can't all get what we want.
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>>180805119
Arcanum Total War!
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>>180805347
I would unironically send myself broke pledging to the kickstarter for an Arcanum TW game.
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>>180804817
The next game should be TW: Three Kingdoms with a Mongol Expansion.
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>>180805347
>>180805437
So what's this? Diablo steampunk?
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When the manual fire hits just right.
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>>180805071

I don't want Total War games for those either faggotron

The total war formular is about controlling little blobs of guys, it is fundamentally unsuitable for anything more modern than line warfare.
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>>180805558
>putting a leadership banner on chosen

Beyond my comprehension
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>>180805632

Is it bad that I said this aloud as I dragged the banner to them?
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>>180805539
It's an old isometric RPG by Troika (Of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines fame). Industrial revolution hits a fantasy universe, time to pick up the peaces in an adventure that, while overall very good in my opinion, clearly gets rushed for time and budget by the end.

Honestly, its setting isn't really suitable for a Total War game. I just wish somebody would give Obsidian a big budget for an Arcanum 2.
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>>180777702
That would be very "warhammerish"
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On the very first end turn sequence of this WRE campaign, the ERE abandoned our alliance at the first opportunity they could
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>>180805851
now, 320 turns later, with the barbarians put to the torch, the huns sent back into the steppes, and the Sassanids destroyed, the ERE thinks themselves safe - but the West remembers.

It is finally time to put these Greek pretenders to the sword
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>>180806092
Damn right. Fucking Greeks
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>>180806092
>Age: 97
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>>180805771
Please stop wanting Obsidian to make games, everyone good has left that sinking ship already.
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>>180806239
Seriously? I don't know anything about inner company politics at any game studios. What happened, who left, and who remains?
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>>180782019
>DLCs are on sale
>cares about gay shit like multiplayer in the first place
>still won't buy heavily discounted dlcs
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>>180806239
Has it gotten that bad? Haven't tried any of the Obsidian games since New Vegas, though they look interesting.
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>Enemy front line breaks
>Just as Tormentor Sword comes off cooldown
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>>180787904
>Settra vs. the other Tomb Kangz
>Tomb Kangz vs. Nagash
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>>180806409
The best feeling
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>>180806303
Essentially the guys who made their games good (the writers) are all freelancers now except Sawyer. What's left of the old guard is programmers (AKA the bug guys) and some of the designers. The rest of the company is relatively new hires.
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>>180806690
Not that guy, but do you think Pillars 2 is gonna be fucked because of it?
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>>180805119
Wish granted
Total War: Warhammer: Age of Shitmar
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>>180806690
Hm. That's a shame. I'm sure Sawyer is a good writer, and there's no way to know how much he's contributed to the games I've enjoyed that had his name on it somewhere in the credits. But what little I know of him points to him being a bit of a cockbag.

Oh well. I'm already on the hook for Pillars 2, so I guess I'll get a flavor of how dead Obsidian is first hand.
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>>180806995
Fucking chainswords, really? GW can go fuck themselves
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>>180806995
The monocle and top hat are just the shit cherry on top.
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>>180806847
Not especially, but I found Pillars very underwhelming to begin with. DESU the whole CRPG renaissance has been really shitty.

>>180807043
Sawyer is a SJW now, so that might improve or damage your perception of him further. Really it's Avellone who wrote the best Obsidian stuff, even if he's a bit of a pretentious wanker.
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>>180806690
Is this the same Obsidian that did Fallout: NV?
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>>180807264
Fair enough. I feel like the ye olde retro isometric RPG fad is dying out anyway
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>-30 food
>77% immigrants
>+30 public order per turn
u wot
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>>180807490
Sawyer wrote on the main game of New Vegas, Avellone wrote Dead Money, Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road. The Tunnelers was him having a tantrum and retconning everything he didn't write into "LOL doesn't matter everyone dies in 50 years anyway."
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So I figured I'd ask somebody who's experimented more than I.

What's the best way to go about consolidating Empire land? Talebecland always wants to suck your dick and they're easy to confederate but should I confederate somebody else first?
Should I perhaps even go to war with Talabecland at some point and ignore the call for alliances?

Turn 6, siege Marineburg. That much is stone, then what? Turn around and hit Middleland?
Should I make nice with Stirland or Wissenland? Wissenland seems good to confederate since I have to wait 20 turns to declare on them anyway (10 to break the treaty, 10 more to not be a backstabbing ass about it).
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>>180807264
Avellone is definitely pretentious, but in an endearing old school DM that took way too many drama classes kind of way. I don't know about SJW with Sawyer (Obnoxious SJWs definitely do exist, but SJW is a pretty broad net at times on 4chan), but I do remember his obnoxious Sawyer mod for Fallout New Vegas with "How the game is meant to be played." The only other thing is an interview where he came off a bit like he hated people that played his games for fun. Naturally I can't find that interview now, but maybe it's out there. Not enough to convince me he's an elder, game company killing evil necessarily, but I'll see with Pillars 2.

>>180807490
>>180807627
Ah, yes, the tunnelers. An ultra tough enemy that had to be hyped up as another inevitable doom coming to the Mojave. Whichever one wrote that, Avellone or Sawyer, it's a definite ding against them because an oncoming Armageddon needs more than just 'these durn critters can dig!' cause there's like six monster types in fallout that do that already.
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>lost only 28 spearmen, 7 crossbowmen, 9 swordsmen from a 500 man army
>laid the enemy lord flat with a single (admittedly lucky) spell
>Reiksguard cunt-punted their infantry line so hard that two units broke immediately
>Close Victory
What does a guy have to do to get good rating?
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>>180807538
Boy! Multiculturalism IS the answer!
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>>180808126
But what is the question?
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>>180808126
Public order is only on the rise because those immigrants brought Sharia law.
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>>180807675

A lot of it is going to have to do with who Randomed into having imperial distrust in your playthrough. Generally you're best off either aiming to get Middenland / Talabecland / Hochland / Ostland (gold mine)
or
Stirland / Averland / Wissenland / Sylvania.

Either of these combos will land you some sweet money and army generating provinces while still leaving you a couple buffer states for the chaos invasion.
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>>180805703
No
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>>180807378
Yep, and all the other glorious rpgs of the early 2000's. Boo misses you. For Justice!
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>>180807538
>malaca
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Whenever I see a neat mod, invariably there'll be some cockgoblin in the comments asking "Is this compatible with Radious?"

Now there's a second bit of bastardry. "Is this compatible with SFO?" Fucking overhauls man.
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>>180806092
>475ad
>still using spear spam

Pathetic.
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>>180809320
Hey, as long as it works.
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No. For real.
Leon needs to back the fuck off of Marineburg.
I don't know what makes this happen. Why did the AI just change like this? Every fucking start it happens at the end of turn 3, then he sieges it for half a dozen turns and takes it and I can't just fucking declare war on him because then I'm a backstabber.

A whole day off, wasted.
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>>180809692

What difficulty? Literally never see this happen on VH or Legendary.
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>>180809826
Not him but Leon does it all the fucking time on hard and below. Not sure about VH since the only faction I've done VH with is Vamps so I don't pay attention
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>>180809826
Normal.
It never used to happen before today.
I noticed it doesn't happen if they're defensive, but I have no idea how to actually win the siege battle. I'm using Gelt so I even have artillery but I don't think it would help me.
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>>180809902

Well, if Marienburg is literally a make or break for you on a lower difficulty, then take Louen out and nab Couronne too. Tourny grounds are pretty rad.
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>>180809981
Louen is a pushover in early game anyway. All you have to do is take out his knights the first battle or so and he won't come at you with good knights until almost mid-game
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>>180809320
Greeks. When will they learn?
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>>180809692
Well, Bretonnia starting at war with Marienburg helps. There was also that mini-patch to make Bretonnia more aggressive so that it survives longer.
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>>180809925
Strange, for me Louen is usually too afraid of the Greenskins to ever actually move on Marienburg.
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>>180809320
FOEDERATI'D
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>YEA YEA GIFF DE ORDA YAH YAH DE ORDA!!!!!!!!!
was it autism?
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>>180810858
>0 artillery kills
What happened there?
I mean if your slingers can get 700...
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>>180810990
SAY ET SSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY EEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT
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>>180811082
KAZUKAN KAZAKIT HAAAAAAAA
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>>180811051
I was attacking a fort that was reinforced by a garrison army/the garrison and the reinforcements deployed right behind me - I wanted to destroy the closest set of towers so that I wasn't taking tower fire and by the time I did that the enemy army was already in melee and there wasn't anything to shoot at.

Also those are noble foederati javelins
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>tfw Skarsnik doesn't come with a mini-gobbo
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>>180811806
What is little gobbos purpose in life? Other than little schemes I mean.
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>>180811996
Don't be eaten until tomorrow is a decent long term decision all things considered
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>>180811806
Its called snotling.
>>180811996
Food to squigs.
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>>180811806

>Don't talk to me or my son or my wife's dog ever again.
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>>180810858
ignore the mis-microed javelin unit pls
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Is it worth reinstalling Rome 2 and if so what DLC should I grab?
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>>180813102
Unless you want to mod it so it doesn't suck, no
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>>180813394
What mods make it not suck?
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>>180813558
**Attlia**
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Today is the day
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Roma Invicta
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>>180814750
Noice
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>>180814750
PROVD ROMANS TO A MAN
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>>180814750
All other factions have been destroyed
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>>180814857
Wealth map at the end of the game - While I'm sure some provinces in the east like Cilicia, Libya, or Aegyptus could have competed to be the wealthiest province, that award would go to Venetia. Rome was second, but also had much better public order and all buildings maxed out/the upkeep of the patriarchal see as well.
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>>180815008
My best legion was Legio IV Britannica - assigned to defend the British Isles from Celtic and Norse invaders, they ended up fighting in the most battles out of all the legions throughout the campaign
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>>180815118
Eutropius Magnus, son of Honorious, was my Emperor at the end of the game, and was a bit of a nut, but had the influence to make up for it
>>
>Instead of trying to do the same thing over and over, and restarting on normal to get the perfect start
>Try Very Hard
>First battle against the army near Grunburg
>Franz gets killed by the enemy lord who's missing very little health when I look after Franz goes down.

What
The
Fuck
is this?
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>>180814750
Proof that if Honorius stopped playing with his cock for a second, the WRE could have survived.
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>>180815289

You gotta let the enemy lord get swarmed by your own troops and have Franz hit him when he is preoccupied eating your troops. You need to make sure that Franz also doesn't just randomly decide to start hitting regular mooks rather than the enemy lord.
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>>180815239
His heir, Gaius Flaccus, led one of the 2 guard legions, with his brother commanding the other. They were both big factors in the later stages of the Sassanid war as well as the war against the ERE. These legions had a different troop composition, with Herculiani Seniores/Scholae Palatinae replacing the standard Legio Comitatenses/Equites Promoti that other legions used.

Flaccus ended up with a large amount of influence for a general, thanks to his office as well as his wife
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>>180815289
Congratulations, you've just been memed into thinking the AI behaves differently on higher difficulties instead of just getting hidden buffs.
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>>180815463
and now for some stats
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>>180815560
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>>180815673
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>>180815764
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>>180815848
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*blocks your path*
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>>180815289
The AI just gets morale bonuses on high diffuclty, and some other stat changes

'very hard' is actually just 'very bullshit' and 'legendary' is 'we never hired someone to make smart ai'
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>>180815947
last pic

Hope you guys enjoyed my campaign posting over the past week or so

>>180815979
I don't see what their role is in the Helf roster - the Swordmasters have a bonus vs inf to go with their ap damage, and the only bonus the White Lions had was missile resist. Does someone have a shot of their stats from the fallen gates to compare w/ swordmasters?

>>180816089
Very hard and Legendary difficulty actually both use the "Very Hard" battle difficulty, so Very Hard is basically legendary light w/ less campaign penalties and none of the battle/save restrictions
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Still in the top seller

Stay mad /his/ cuck
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>>180816182
So I notice you don't have Ori.
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>>180816182

>Playerunknown battlegrounds
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>>180816283
...so
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>>180816182
>Fallout 4
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>>180816391
>>180816597

:^)
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>>180816182
>fantasyfags have this awful taste
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>>180816182
>Mixed
Beyond my comprehension
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>>180816705
most people buy it thinking is good then realize is shit and ask for a refund, only the ones with shit taste keep it
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>>180816595
Do you hate artists and animators, anon?
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>>180816702
>Being this mad because a fantasy game is making shit tons of money, money that are going to the new historical title
>Not enjoying more things
>Being this big of a monogamy cuck

Bet you are subscribed to xPrinceOfManletsX
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>no naval battles
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>>180816182

That's a good boy Anon.

You didn't buy it on sale, did you?

Remember to pre-order the VR edition too!
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>>180815979
I prefer when Empire and High Elves are allied.
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>>180817052
I swear Fallout 4 was such a massive disappointment that I still get angry thinking about it, no exaggeration.
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>>180817091

I prefer when High Elves, Dark Elves and Wood Elves are united under the banner of the true Phoenix King
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>>180817052
No Todd, I bought it from a key seller and your season pass is shit, give me Elder Scrolls VI
>>
>>180817206

>Wanting anything at all from modern Bethesda

I'd literally prefer it if they kept re-releasing Skyrim and Fallout 4 until the end of time.

At least that way they can't ruin anything
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>>180817159
all of bethesda's fallouts and TESs have been massive disappointments desu
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>>180817091

They canonically are most of the time. Teclis taught the humans how to use magic properly, thus founding the colleges of magic and Franz is homies with Finubar.
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>>180762213
>implying back in the day 1.70m wasnt tall and manlets were the norm
>>
So July is going to be a spotlight for Worst Elves and August for le nice and not overused rat meme :^) ?
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>>180817301
Teclis also shags human twins.
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>>180817387

Probably
>>
>Just lost a battle because friendly fire from a tower caused a chain rout.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>180817480
pls elaborate
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>>180817387

>dark elves
>worst
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>>180817387
Most likely.
>>
I fucking hate Marienburg
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>>180817387
No, Worst Elves is atm, July gonna be Best Elves
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>>180818812


>pssst
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Give me ONE (1) reason why Medieval II isn't the best Total War game.
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>>180819150
>tfw renamed m*rienburg to Franzstadt
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>>180819305
Diplomats.
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>>180819305
Clunky as fuck. Like, unplayable clunky. Which is a shame, because it's got the best character traits system.
>>
>>180819414
>when you have homosexual childfucker secret nuns as the pope
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>>180816182
How many times are historycucks going get btfo already?
>>
>>180819305
>heavy cavalry are OP
>siege battles are completely broken
>diplomats
>shitty tacked-on America

Can't think of any more right now, it's good modded though
>>
>>180819150
So Reikspiel is german and Marienburgish is dutch?
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>>180819559
Yes
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>>180819305
Because they made Shogun 2.
>>
>>180819305

Someone post those Medieval 2 combat webms.
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>>180819625
Damn right anon
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>>180816705
It's literally 90% butthurt histfags and people shitting on the DLC

Warhammer is widely regarded as the best TW overall though
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>community has to step in and make bridge battles because CA can't be arsed

Why is this aloud?

Is there a single TW game that *didn't* need mods to be good?
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>>180816182
>Fallout 4
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>>180819871
Shogun II
Attila
>>
>>180819871

Apparently CA are making bridge battles in TWW2.

Then again, I don't see why people would want bridge battles to begin with, they're a huge cluster fuck.
>>
Who's the shittest WH youtuber and why is it Arch?
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>>180819871
>Why is this aloud
>aloud

Why is this allowed?
>>
>>180819994
Why do we care about youtubers again
>>
>>180819994
It's all who aren't Legend of Total War. Legend is a manly alpha who is actually aggressive, all other TW youtubers are little pussy betas
>>
>>180820084
>Legend is a manly alpha

Reminder that his voice is put on, he sounded like a 12 year-old only 4 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3epfAvFOs
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>>180820084

t. Legend
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>>180820153
lmao what the fuck

Sounds like his nose is pinched the whole time
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>Gate fortress battles disallow rams and siege towers

For the love of god why
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>>180820153
As awful as legend is, it's very clear from this video that he actually has autism. He shares traits with gamers who do speedrunning, a known symptom of the 'tism.

Arch is the real answer. he's an obnoxious cunt
>>
>>180819792
Most succesful? sure
Best TW? Not in a million years. Too many features either dumbed down or completely removed.
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>>180820397
>dumbed down

Total War has never even approached being complex in its entire history

>completely removed

Only features that were totally irrelevant to the Warhammer universe
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>>180820272
It doesn't matter though since any unit can climb walls/break down gates

>building rams in twwh
They are the slowest way to get into the city
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>>180820456
>Only features that were totally irrelevant to the Warhammer universe

Like formations? Tax levels? Real political system? Customizable avatars a la Shogun 2?
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>>180820470
>It doesn't matter though since any unit can climb walls/break down gates

Wasn't really the point I was getting at, usually units that get sent up ladders get slaughtered.

I understand the new gate forts need to be hard to attack but jesus christ.
>>
>>180820397
>muh dumbed down campaign features

If you want advanced world map gameplay go play Europa Universalis or something. I'm glad they finally focused on the RTS gameplay instead of half-assing both aspects.
>>
>>180819938

They lend some actual strategic value to the map. Crossing a river should be a clusterfuck for an attacking army, it has always been, all the way up to modern warfare.
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>>180820581
>I'm glad they finally focused on the RTS gameplay instead of half-assing

Again, no formations
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>>180820456
Just off the top of my head how were bridge battles and formations irrelevant to Warhammer universe? I recall dwarfs specifically having shield walls and such in the table top game.

What about unwalled settlements? We had village battles in all the previous titles.
Sounds more like either CA either ran out of time or just got lazy and figured that "mods will fix it".
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>>180820538
>tax levels

Dumb, totally insignificant. Its better how they do it now anyway where more happiness = more tax revenue

>formations

Basically irrelevant for 99% of troops due to troop variety and how many different enemies you face off against and would have to have a formation for

>Real political system

What the fuck does that even mean? And how would you apply a "real political system" to the Greenskins for example? Time isn't really supposed to be moving either, so politics like that is irrelevant.

>customizable avatars

Gay multiplayer shit
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>>180820679
>bridge battles

Not fun or interesting

>unwalled settlements

Who cares? Siege battles with major cities are cooler than ever and AI was always broken with minor settlement battles anyway.
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>>180820819
>>180820691

These are all your opinions, rather than facts, and they're all wrong
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>>180820819
this is my bait, it was made for me
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>Araby is just an empire clone with a unique VA
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>>180820691
Low quality bait
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>it's a "CA apologist has another spergout" episode
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>>180820995
Araby will be wiped out by Tomb Kings and Skaven.
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>>180820995
And by unique you mean ripped straight from Attila
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In game 3 Be'lakor will crush the doomed fools who stand against Chaos and the world shall be consumed by darkness.
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>>180821219
No you
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Recently bought some TW titles and played my first TW game ever, Attila. It's pretty fun but I think I'm going to like Warhammer more because I like fantasy and knightey-stuff. What major differences should I expect?
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>>180821296
Less features. easier for newcomers to get into. Flying units and really underwhelming magic.
Don't spend money on Warriors of Chaos DLC. It's absolute shit.
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>>180821132
THE DOOR IS OPEN TO YOU,
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>>180821478
ROAST GOAT IS DELICOUS
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>>180820995


BY SIGMAR, NO!
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>>180821296
You're going to really love Warhammer. Trust me.
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>>180821467
I got all the dlc, they're 66% off or something:))
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>>180821626
33% and i'd take a refund on some of them if it's still possible.
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>>180821626
>I got all the dlc, they're 66% off or something

It's 66% off base game, 33% off from DLC

Just watch, you'll barely touch Chaos :^)
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>>180820679
Formations/unit abilities were removed to make space for magic, magic items, and lord/hero abilities. If they had both it would have been a massive amount of complexity creep compared to previous games. I find it pretty hard to manage lords/heroes effectively as it is, especially during multiple stack battles.
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>>180821626
>>180821691
>>180821716
I'd keep Chaos. They're updating it soon with Norsca shit.
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>>180821740
I see the CA shills are still justifying removal of formations, a staple of the series since Shogun
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Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>180821740
> I find it pretty hard to manage lords/heroes effectively as it is

Lel git gud.
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>>180821871
They're for TWH3

>shows a pyramid
>WE WUZ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM

Thoughts?
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Is it possible to confederate Von Carsteins as Vampire Counts?
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>>180822573
Yes and tomb kings too, remember they are the same race after all
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>>180822702
>vampires and mummies are the same race
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>>180822702
>angry bone rattling in the distance
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>>180819994
>>180820084
They're all cancerous wannabe e-celeb retards.
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>>180822702
and equally boring
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>>180822546

Old fucking news
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>>180822884
applies to Attila and Warhammer too
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>>180822918

No?

Look, no one cares about you anymore Reynold, everyone got tired of endlessly complaining about Rome II years ago. Come back when you actually bother to make a Warhammer video.
>>
Are wood elves worth 11€?
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>>180823112

Entire dependent on the value-to-content ration you expect.

I was happy with my purchase, other weren't,
>>
For 2 they should remove the RoR and instead have mercenary units that you can hire, including a few of allied races' things.
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>>180823234

Literally no reason you can't have both.
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So it's canon that Chaos ultimately win right?

Will this play out in TWW3?
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>>180823547

>So it's canon that Chaos ultimately win right?

Yes, but this game doesn't follow canon and obviously Chaos won't win if you're not playing as Chaos.

And no matter what it won't play out like it did canonically since the game is time-locked a full two decades before the End Times plays out canonically in the lore.
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>>180823547

>So it's canon that Chaos ultimately win right?

Yes, though some characters survive into of Age of Sigmar.

>Will this play out in TWW3?

Chaos winning no matter what? I fucking hope not.
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>>180823547
>>180823686
I can see a decently fun mode being made out of ever-more-powerful Chaos armies sweeping down from the north, with the objective being to last as many turns as you can against them. Make it a separate campaign, give everyone it makes sense for some diplomacy bonuses with each other and see if you can bring all the warriors to the fight.
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>>180823754

They already call what happens in game 1 "The End Times" and it isn't particularly unstoppable
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I think I'll keep them alive so that I can spread vamp corruption easier.

I can't foresee this ending badly at all.
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>>180824040

You're are gonna get such a spanking Manny
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What's the point in playing Very Hard. I did it once per race to get the achievement on Steam but otherwise it's really crap.
And I don't care about the negative happiness for me. It's the happiness for the AI that's annoying. I can't do my vampire corruption game on VH since I can't spread enough corruption to make the region rebel and then just grab it. I can't revive lost factions via rebellion cause even with heroes and raiding and sacking, the populace is happy.
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What faction will my next migration campaign be with? I kinda feel like going to Egypt.
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Why are Norscans so big and angry? Are they even human or are they just snowniggers?
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>>180786482

>Playing as Muhammed the prophet torching everything.
>Game will get branded as racist and islamobhobic.
>"B-but Muhammed w-was a Warlord!"
>"Doesn't matter, you can raze and pillage cities while you play as Muhammed which is not according to my special point of view of the quran. Because everybody knows its a religion of """""""""""""peace.""""""""""
>Creative Assembly has to close down soon.
>No more Total war games ever.

So much for Middle eastern Total war and "rise of islam."
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>>180824814
egypt has nice fertility but is surrounded by provinces with shitty fertility so I'd suggest the burgundians since they get bonuses to food

Also, you'll most likely end up fighting arabs and persians so a faction with decent cavalry might help
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did CA confirm the race pack finally or we still just guess norsca?
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>>180825207
Hell with how butthurt people get over anything I even doubt they'll ever make a Medieval 3 for fear of touching the subject of the crusades
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>>180825232
It's nor Skaven, that's for sure. On account that they don't exist

tee hee hee
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>>180821049
Irony
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>>180825109
just average snowniggers, but high on Chaos
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I really hate that this is now WH general
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>>180826250
The theme of the general changes with each new release.
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>>180826250
Get used to it historycuck, CA is high on fantasy money and you're never getting another boring game again.
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>>180826250
Wow, really? Nobody could have possibly guessed
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>>180826250
me too tbqhwy
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>>180826250

>Somewhere between half and 1/3 of the OPs are history theme
>Decent smattering of history posts in every thread, including this one
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! WHY IS THE MOST RECENT ENTRY IN THE SERIES WITH AN IMPENDING SEQUEL WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT THE HEIGHT OF IT'S MEDIA BLITZ THE ONE BEING DISCUSSED THE MOST?! PEOPLE SHOULD ONLY TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT I LIKE!"

Literally, unironically jump in front of a train you waste of oxygen.
>>
Ive played a TON of Shogun2 and Total Warhammer

During the steam sale I picked up Rome2 and the culture packs - anyone can recommend me some good yt channels I can watch during dinner, etc. to learn the game and get in the mood?
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>>180820153
Maybe he was 12 years old 4 years ago
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>>180820084

>Legend is a manly alpha who is actually aggressive

>Literally spends 50% of every single video he puts out bitching about how people in his Youtube comments are mean poopy-head

Nah
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>>180827000
Just play the game dumb ass
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>>180824357
higher difficulties are always shit in TW, I guess you just have to accept that or use mods
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>>180827074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sMuhe3-yg

He looks older than 16
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>set war coordinate with my vassal
>he never does what I order him to do
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>>180827343
He looks like every super hostile autist I've ever seen down to the beard and shaggy hair. Wow
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Who here hyped for uniting Ulthuan and using trade and influence to control the whole world on Grand Campaign?
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>>180827643

Oh I'll be uniting them alright.
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>>180827000
Watch HBO's Rome
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>>180826336
not really, Attila had barely any impact it was mostly Rome II posting and mods.
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>>180827747
no
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>>180827643
I for one am hyped to bully the candy-ass elves with my artillery by dragging the health of key units down below the martial prowess range, neutering their melee defense before they even get into combat
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>>180827885
no
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>>180827876
>>180827961

no u
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RIP Daddy

You did fucking nothing.
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>>180827885
>implying stunties will have a chance vs high elfs

Seriously
>lord chariots
>melee/missile chariots
>dragons improved w/ breath attacks for killing copters
>elite ap inf w/ missile resist
>elite ap inf w/ anti-inf bonus
>multi-role artillery that can switch between firing modes for counter-battery or doing maximum damage to blobs of midgets
>diverse magic array including lore of light (guaranteed net for trolling short-legged simpletons)
>vanguard cav for trolling dwarf fudge throwers
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Why has cavalry become so fucking shit at running down routing units? It used to be that a cavalry unit could wipe out hundreds of men in no time at all but now it takes ages to take down even a single unit.
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>>180828601
It has something to do with WH's combat, it annoys me too
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>>180828047
no
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>>180828601
I'm not one to usually complain about MUH WARSCAPE, but cavalry started being less and less effective at running down stragglers since empire
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>>180829137
Isn't warscape the graphical engine
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>>180829137
They are perfectly fine in every game up until TWWH
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>>180827643
I wonder how powerful the influence system is
If I can convince everyone to remove wood elves for me that'll be pretty good on its own
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>>180829220

I remember having issues in Napoopan, they did the same thing where they just run circles around enemy troops and whittle away at them.
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>>180829185
I don't know what to tell you, it just was smoother in M2, and I'm in the team that hates it.
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>>180829220
They definitely had issues in medieval 2, it has never been that good in any game since then
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>>180829474
I remember being able to completely wipe out the enemy in a matter of seconds in M2
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>>180829561
I remember cavalry being unable to deal with long routing lines of units in med2
Maybe I'm thinking of some other bug that game had
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What is this formation called?
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>>180829870
Asinine ascies
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/twg/ help I am drunk
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>>180830135

I'm trying to think of where you could be that the time of day doesn't make you a piece of trash.
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>>180830225
New Zealand

Although New Zealand is trash
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>>180830256
Why is it trash?
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>>180826250
I love that you do. Spoiled retards should suffer.
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>>180830256
I'd live there if I wasn't happy where I am now
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>>180827812
>>180826808
>>180826250
Don't people still post a lot about Attila here? Seems like that and warhammer are the only things I hear about.
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>>180830256
>New Zealand
Down at the Green Dragon eh?
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Any good mods out there that make Rome 2 a good experience?
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>>180830593

Yeah, Attila and Warhammer are the ones I see the most. Followed by Rome 2.
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>no "reveal the whole map" button when you finish a campaign

Thanks CA
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>>180830708
ancient empires mod for Attila
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>>180831034
I was expecting that post.

Is it even out? I haven't been here in months. Sometimes being a diehard Classiboo is inconvenient.
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>>180831086
Wtf is the hold-up with it? Didn't the guys release a trailer sometime last year expecting it to release soon? You would think modders would at least be competent enough to recognize when they aren't even close to having a playable build
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>>180828390
WHY IS YOUR GAME SO DAAAAAAAARK
>>
>playing as WE
>managed to secure alliances with both bretonia and the empire
>everything is going peachy
>until they declare war on each other
>right as chaos comes showing its ugly head
>decline and break alliance for both of them
>salvage bretonia because they have more amber
>empire is super pissed at me
>beastmen pushing bretonias shit in
>chaos the empires
>vampire cucks on empire provinces
>im stuck fighting a war with basically every race but greenskins

Well it was fun while it lasted
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These guys were alright.
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>>180831294

some mod that makes VC territory darker I think
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>>180830635
I've been to that pub, it's part of the Hobbiton set that you can visit. It served a really nice pork pie.
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STUFF WHEN!
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>>180831423
Amber is such a shitty mechanic
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>>180832237

Today
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>>180832358
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>>180831563
>Got given the Skarsnik and Gobbla miniatures for my birthday in 1996
>Got into Warhammer via that
>20-fucking-years later I can enact his schemes in a realistic virtual world via computer magic

It almost makes up for GW killing off Gobbla in the End Times.
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>slaughtering captives makes you untrustworthy

Is there some Warhammer Geneva conventions I don't know about or something?
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This is the state of my first proper TWWH campaign on turn 53, as you can see I'm playing as the Empire.

Quick rundown of what's happened so far
>conquered Marienburg and Middenheim
>confederated Talabecland and what was left of Stirland
>made peace with Nordland but they hate my guts more than ever
>same goes for pretty much every other elector count
>decent relations with Bretonnia
>decent relations with Dwarfs
>Got a mod which balkanises Norsca into several tribes so I shouldn't have to worry about them for a while

At this point I'm basically consolidating my territory, trying to deal with public order issues as well as reforming my military. I'm also trying to slowly salvage relations with the remaining elector counts. However you'll notice that Stirland is in a spot of trouble as the VC took the Moot early on and there is more and more vampiric corruption in the region.

I'll probably be taking on the VC next so any advice on how to fight them would be appreciated.
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>>180832732

Go for the General when fighting Vampires.
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>>180832847
Right, that's pretty much what I've been doing to everyone else so Karl Franz is pretty much my designated gen sniper.
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>>180821691
Actually now that you mention it. I probaby will, I don't intend to (ever) play as one of the chaos factions. I've been following the Warhammer Fantasy franchise from afar and the "End Times" never happened for me, nope, it didn't happen. Nope.
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>>180832732

>Fighting VC

Halberdiers and crossbows/guns for days. Anti large is the name of the game against VC, and sustained crossbow fire can generally kill shit faster than they can heal. If you have access to a luminark, use it.
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>>180819305
Because it's literally the only good game ever made. If you say othewise you're a retarded monkey.
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>>180819305

It's almost unplayably bad without heavy modding.
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>>180819305
It's complete dogshit, if you played any of the Total War games released before or after M2 you would know that
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>>180832649
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>Have no treaties with Vlad and a non-aggression pact with Manlet
>Attack Vlad
>Vlad is allied with Manlet
>Manlet joins the war on Vlads side
>I become untrustworty for breaking the pact
>Visible confusion.jpg
>>
>When you finally manage to stabilize every province's public order as WRE

Jesus christ that was stressful.

Still, the more I play this the more I love the WRE. There's just something really great about trying to save the empire.
>>
>>180837138
I don't understand why the Empire has a non-aggro pact with two Undead factions while setting up an alliance/confederation with other Empire factions has been ridiculously difficult. Entering an agreement with Estalia, Kislev and Tilea are also retardedly difficult.

Now I fear they will pull the same stunt in Ulthuan with Tyrion even though high elves are more receptive to one another unlike humies.
>>
>>180837620
Any tips. The campaign/empire management part has always been the most difficult for me. In Attila especially. There are just so many buildings, I have literally no idea what to go for. WRE help please? First 10 turn strategy maybe?

Also I want to try to stay Christian. Possible?
>>
>play vanilla Shogun 2 as Otomo
>use a mod that lets me spam tercos
>even with shit range they are as good as normal samurai on melee
>siege battles are garbage since they all die to archers

Quit at turn 46 and went back to FotS

The time period and devastation is actually perfect

They should make a Civil War TW
>>
>>180837883
There are dozens of guides on steam, Legatus.
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>>180838615
Civil War should be DLC for a Victoria era Total War or something

It's a fun war but I don't think you could spin it out into a big title on it's own, you'd really have to grasp for factions and stuff
Also slavery and units
>>
The last battle in which Chaos was driven back for good.
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>>180838615
>Civil War
Which civil war?
>>
>>180837883
I have no idea how to win this shit as christian. Churches are just such a big fucking money dump I can't justify them in any way. I just demolished them in the first couple turns (keeping the one in Rome around for a couple more to get some priests) and am going to convert back to paganism as soon as I can. Theatres are just so much better than christian churches. Also way more entertaining, and I like the idea of the WRE going back to it's roots to gain it's full glory once again.

Anyway, just fucking demolish everything that doesn't give sanitation, income and public order. My rule of thumb has been more or less
>Cities: Waterworks > Forum > Capitol
>Towns: Fields > Guardhouses > Depends (resources, more fields, etc.)
I'm not building any industry at all. Too many cons, too few pros. The fields and settlements are already straining the sanitation I get from waterworks enough.

Place governors in your top income provinces, but switch them out when their loyalty gets too low. The only edict that exists for you is bread and butter. Everything else is shit you don't need nearly as much.

Don't abandon Britannia. If you do, the celts will be riding your ass forever. What I did was go quickly for the caledonians, subjugate them so they act as a buffer against the picts, and then firmly sit my army's ass down in that one coastal town that the ebdanians will attack first if they declare war. You can still use that army to get rid of rebellions, but get your guardhouses up as soon as possible.

A surprisingly effective strategy was to raise taxes to maximum for the first couple turns. This will destroy your public order all across the map, but you'll get a LOT of money from that + demolishing shit, and you can use that to build up all that I said earlier.

Something I didn't take into consideration that you probably should, keep good relations with the african kingdoms.
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>>180838615
>Wildfire mechanic for the Battle of the Wilderness
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>>180838954
>here take three line infantry and one skirmisher
>now you have to defend against 4000 negroes
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>>180838992
Why are the vampire counts so stylish?
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>>180838992
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Skarsnik, Warlord of Parravon and the Supreme ruler of Bretonnia!
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>sieging the moot in belonging to stirland
>the army finally starts suffering attrition and all my siege towers are built
>the empire confederates stirland the turn before I attack
>all siege buildings gone and attrition timer reset even though I didnt move
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>>180839205
>>
>>180838615
>devastation is actually perfect
Once you get cannons though, I find the game loses its' charm because every fight is just bombarding the enemy army until they reach your firing line, and subsequently shatter after the first volley or two.
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>>180839379
Great game isn't it?
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>>180839435
Chaos running away like the dogs they are.
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>>180839648
Plucked the bird.
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>>180839862
Chaos' wonder boy tried to solo my army without waiting for his own troops. Didn't end well for him.
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>tfw the AI outsmarts you and you manage to fuck yourself into a battle that's impossible to win
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>>180840045
Chaos giants running away before the battle is even over.
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>>180839497
those extra 5 turns of sieging I had to do just resulted in karl franz and his bum buddy priest guy to attack me from the back with 2 stacks. I think thats the end of my Vc campaign
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>>180840142
>>tfw the AI outsmarts you
>>
>completely outplayed
Never should have come here Chaos.
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>Still no version of this for WH2.
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>>180841170
You probably will need a Skylake-X/Threadripper system to do a full Warhammer grand campaign with the Western races plus Tomb Kangz/Araby.
>>
>>180841170
You know, I kind of understand why they're (probably) doing Norsca as a full fledged DLC pack.

>Norsca takes up a large part of the map but very few of the player factions have any incentive at all to go there.
>Norscan AI factions are often fought but their limited roster makes them boring and tedious as fuck to fight.
>Norscans have a large presence in both the old and the new world so adding them is relevant for both games.
>Everyone loves vikings.
>>
>>180841170
>tfw greenskins made a fucking khalifate in the southern region in my game and I'm scared to even send heroes there not to piss em off.
>>
>>180841170
They still haven't officially announced the fourth faction.
>>
>>180841170
I don't get this, how come you're limited just to Reikland as the Empire? Why not any other county? Nearly every race has 2-3 playable subfactions.

This is kinda why I like the M2 Warhammer mods better, you can play as anyone - and get sweet mercs too.
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>>180841678
>Everyone loves vikings.
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>>180841882
They were really conservative with the factions when they launched.

For some reason they just never bothered doing anything with the Empire post-launch.
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>>180842009
desu the empire is the most boring faction
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>have 1 amber
>complete quest battle
>get 3 amber from it
>end result, I have 15 amber

AYO HOL UP
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>>180841957
Hey don't talk shit about muh ancestors!
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>>180841882
Because originally CA thought that one starting location no matter what LL you play as would be a good idea.

They eventually realized that subfactions were a good idea. However, since the Empire is not spelled like "Vampire Counts", CA doesn't care enough about them to give them a new starting location.
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>>180842136
They were some of mine too
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>>180842142
>Because originally CA thought that one starting location no matter what LL you play as would be a good idea.

At least they quickly caught on to the fact that it was a stupid and counterintuitive idea.
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>>180841957
THe Last Kingdom is clearly the Patrician choice.
>Total War: Danelaw when
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The thing that makes me most upset about this ridiculously slow trickle of information is that it feels like they are going back to rome 2 days. There was barely any footage or info about rome 2 pre release, then the game was fucking horrible and ca got massive amounts of shit. With WH1 they finally seemed to correct themselves and really did an amazing job with transparency. Tons of info each week, lots of gameplay footage, unit spotlights that weren't just hi res renders that won't actually be in the game. Feels like a massive step backwards and honestly a bit of a slap in the face how they are handling WH2s pre release.
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>>180842390
have you played Age of Vikings?
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>>180841957

>vikings
>traded around the world, colonized many different areas, developed new technology
>niggers
>
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>>180842390
>The Last Kingdom

I can't bring myself to watch it because the costume design looks so fucking awful. Also how faithful is it to the books?
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>>180832662

>Give up, there is no use in fighting

>Gives up, gets slaughtered anyway

Yeah, I can see why it would be untrustworthy.
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>>180842390
It's fucking awful lad
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>>180842456
I came to the series with TWW, but I would like to try the historical stuff and I will be buying the new historical TW when it finally comes out.
>Tell me the best historical TW and I will play it.
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>>180842521
Conquered the world.
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>>180842521
Vikings brought practically nothing of value to the world.
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>>180842779
>We failed to kill you so we give up hoping you won't return the intent
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>>180842142
hopefully maybe they'll add more depth to the Empire with the 3rd release.
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>>180842102
it's a bug, don't spend it.
It will go back to what it was after the turn ends and might leave you in red
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>>180842856
This desu
>>180842913
>A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
FTFY
>>
>>180842742
>>180842801
I have no clue what /tv/s issue with this show is. Its much better than post Ragnar Vikings. The dialogue is great, and it feels more real than Vikings unrelenting grittiness.
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>>180842834
Attila. Attila has the Age of Charlemagne campaign DLC, which is based in the early middle ages. Age of Charlemagne has a mod for it called Age of Vikings, which has plenty of viking factions for you to play as. There is also a submod to that mod if you wanted to play as the Welsh, for whatever reason.
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>>180843110
Like I said, my issue is the costume design.
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>>180843158
Whats wrong with it?
>>
Out of curiosity, do shielded units in Attila and Warhammer take more damage from different directions? Idk how the game actually calculates damage, but if I shoot a unit in the back or sides, will it take more damage than from the front? Do shields actually provide directional protection or just a flat missile defense boost to units that have them?
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>>180842913

>I will stop trying to kill you as you asked, in return for you not trying to kill me anymore

>There is literally no point in you killing me anyway, as you have already won and the aim is not to kill each other but to win the battle

>Kills me

Yeah, dishonourable and untrustworthy,
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>>180822475
Going to be a heyday reveal & build up to Kangs
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>>180843110
It's just a bad show, the characters are awful, there is no tension, the acting is subpar, the fights are poorly choreographed and the way the presents the plot makes it boring
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>>180843215
It's b-movie fantasy tier

In addition, the books went into a lot of detail about the weapons and armour of the period, and did a good job of highlighting how important they were to people.
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>>180843218
Shields should only be working from the front, flanking with missiles makes them do a lot more damage
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>>180843287
lmao, is that from the ass creed reveal?
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>>180822475
TK are pretty obviously TWH2 DLC.
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>>180843273
>There is literally no point in you killing me anyway, as you have already won and the aim is not to kill each other but to win the battle
>All that implying
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01. Empire
02. Greenskins
03. Dwarfs
04. Chaos Warriors
05. Vampire Counts
06. Beastmen
07. Wood Elves
08. Bretonnia
09. Lizardmen
10. High Elves
11. Dark Elves
12. pre-order race
13. Skaven
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>>180843287
Why the ruins? This takes place back when this shit was new.
>>
Hold me bros I got denied for the Master I applied to

I'm a true NEET now
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>>180843485
yaaaaaww another vampire dlc yaaaaay
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>>180843593
Welcome to the master race.
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>>180843514

Sure, but I still wouldn't trust someone who kills captives, it's like giving a mugger your wallet and them him killing you anyway.
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>>180843579
Ancient Egyptian history spans at least two millenia. Relatively speaking we are closer in time to Cleopatra than she is to the construction of the Great Pyramid.
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>>180843485
The final Warhammer game will be Tomb Kangz, Ogre Kingdoms, Chaos Dwarves and Kislev.

Araby, Estalia and Tilea will be DLC...and so will naval battles like Man O'war and Dreadfleet :^)
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>>180820084

Legend is also an outstanding total war player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZiUIf8TwTg

You guys don't even have a 5 top as entertaining as this
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>>180843593
don't worry anon just fap to a xev video ang you will be right
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>>180843593
Don't fret, bro. I had the same experience moons ago. Just get yourself a job for experience. A year or so after, try apply again and expect lots of acceptance.
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>>180827164
>Neogaf, the post
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>>180843704
Southlands are in Game 2 which pretty much confirms Tomb Kings.
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>>180843772
Holy shit the autism speaks
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>>180842856
Aye. At least niggers gave us mudhuts.
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>>180827524

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rf8K6RPFeM

I thought legend was this guy
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>>180843132
Thanks m80.
Hoping Pike and Shot is the next one
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>>180843593
What did you apply to?
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>>180844040
Gender studies.
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>>180843790
Yeah that's my plan, but I already have some experience so I'm not so sure about that

>>180843778
that's also my plan

>>180844040
A master specialized in wine trading (wine and spirituous)
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I have lost control on my life

I wake up at 1pm, play total war, take lunch, do exercises to don't die from trombosis, keep playing total war, see some TV in late night, play total war again until 4am, repeat
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>>180781927
>it's just wide ass lines everywhere
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>>180844314
Living the dream anon
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>>180843873
Niggers contributed nothing either. Wheres your god now?
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>>180844314
>tfw wagecuck
Kill me
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>>180844314
Played Total War WH for 14 hours yesterday. But at least the campaign is almost over now.
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>>180844314
>Mfw been doing the same for almost a month now
Glad i start at a new job next monday. I don't understand how some people can actually live like this.
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>>180842856

muh varangian guard
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>>180842856

They invented ships,
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>>180843704
The final game will include four core factions - Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh, and two DLC factions, the Ogre Kingdoms and the Chaos Dwarfs. There will be NO Ind, Cathay or Nippon, and probably no Kislev, Middenheim or Southern Realms either. This is the final word on the subject and all speculation should cease IMMEDIATELY.
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>>180845478
Can't argue with this
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>>180845786
>Game remains unfinished
After 3 full price games and a bunch of overpriced DLC that would be quite a feat.
Even for the great Creative Assembly
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>>180845478
>>180845907
Bullshit.

They invented good longships and had good navigation methods, that's all.
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>>180846147
No you're wrong
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>>180845478

They also invented the shield wall
>>
Axes out, lads.
>>
IT'S CIVIL WAR
>>
Squad or Total War Warhammer?
>>
>>180845786

Hardly seems practical from a map perspective. I'd be more willing to believe we'll get two chaos factions and both chorfs and ogres to start. Khorne and Tzeentch or Nurgle baseline, Slaanesh definitely DLC so it doesn't effect the game's base rating in certain countries, like blood.
>>
>invade Norscan tribes
>their stacks keep running away from me
>can't catch them
>if I try, attrition starts killing me
>slowass movement in raid stance
>just close the game and go for walk

So that's how Napoleon probably felt when he invaded Russia.
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>>180846253
Ancient Egyptians had sail boats. Ancient Greece had boats sailing around the Mediterranean.

Saying that Vikings invented ships is entirely disingenuous. Historically, the Vikings may have sailed to the Americas hundreds of years before Columbus, but that doesn't mean Vikings invented ships.
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>>180847757
Shut up
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>>180847551

Invading Norsca is only remotely worth it if you're playing Tree Hitler
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>>180847826
>this is the state of /twg/
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>>180847551
>dying while invading a barren wasteland with no resources

Yes, that must be exactly how Napoleon felt
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>>180847551
>Napoleon

Considering he was also getting his arse kicked in Spain I'm surprised he didn't just ragequit real life tbqh
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>>180847940
>tfw Napoleon didn't savescum

A true understander
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>>180847757

Can you consider anything that will almost certainly sink in rough seas anything more than a big boat?

Vikings invented true, proper ships.
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>>180847940
>loosing on one front
>time to take 1,000,000 men and open another 1,000km front!

Napoleon was more into tactics than strategy I guess
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>>180847551
You just clear their settlements. Once they are down to one they will herd around it for the last slaughter or if they have some left over armies elsewhere they will either beeline towards you and die or grab a settlement, revealing where they are.
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>>180822918
Attila severely reduced the chance of matched combat and Warhammer doesn't even have it for normal units(special units have medieval 2 like sync kills).
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>>180847757

>boats != ships
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>>180848482
The reason he did this is because he wanted to knock Britain out of the war by starving them of trade. Considering he didn't have much of a navy left he opted to take out Britain's last continental trade partner by invading Russia. It was done more out of desperation than anything else.
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>>180847551
>>
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>>180848714
>>180848396
If you want to argue semantics then every single water-vessel we're talking about here is a ship according to the Navy.

Fact of the matter is that there isn't a specific distinction between the two terms. Which is why I said that they invented their longboats, knarrs built for long distance voyages, but saying that they invented ships in general is incorrect.
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>>180849181

>still responding
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>>180849181
They invented the first vessels that were actually capable of traversing open ocea aka actual fucking ships, as opposed to the floating bricks that had to be paddled and couldn't actually leave the shoreline.
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>>180849486
They found a Roman ship in Brazil.
>>
Are there any decent 1st/3rd person games set in the Warhammer FB universe? I was looking at Vermintide but I'm not really into online coop games.
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>>180849181

there is certainly a big distinction between the two terms in any navy and anyone else with any experience of the sea for that matter
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>>180849547
Amphoras not a ship, but an interesting find nonetheless. I can't remember what came of it though.
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>>180849679
Brazilian Government couldn't be bothered and covered it up again.
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>>180849807
>monkeys in charge of history
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>>180849547
>>180849679
>>180849807
>>180849857
It's not unfeasible but it does require some correlating evidence, being able to examine the ship itself would be a good start.
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>>180776805

t. Shit eating sassykid/germanic sub-human
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>>180850308
Best post in the entire thread.
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>>180776805
Because Eastern '''Rome'''' is fake and false, and will be overrung by roaches and niggers (this proves they were unworthy of the name btw)
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>>180850308
t. casual
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>>180776805

>Bullying Westerners LARPing as an Eastern Empire

Dunno
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>>180850308
I prefer the WRE unit skins
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So what do I get if I pre-order Warhammer 2?
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>>180851020
hgnnnnn
>>
>>180851020
Race Pack for TWH1.

Not yet announced what it is, but most likely Norsca.
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>>180851020
It's a secret.
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>>180847334
>comes to a total war general
>asks if he should get an fps or a total war game
>>
>>180851394

People here are patrician taste so probably they would give me far better suggestions than in a squad general
>>
>>180851109
T H I C C prez
>>180851163
>>180851164
So no extra race for second one? 4 on launch? And fourth one is Skaven I suppose?
>>
>>180851498
Thanks for the compliment but you dont need me to tell you which game to get. Warhammer is a solid and fun game to get into the franchise but if you already enjoy fps/ want a new one of those then get squad. I havent played squad so I can only shill you a little of warhammer.
>>
>>180843669
>Killing captive beastmen who are barely sentient is somehow untrustworthy.
>>
>>180850658

>Not installing TWC's unit skin overhaul

I know what you mean though the higher tier WRE infantry look more Grand, but the ERE is more cavalry focused anyway, as that was how the nobility fought.
>>
Any good reskins mods for Atilla? Specifically looking for nicer WRE and ERE looking units. Just reskins, not game changing mods.
>>
>>180851849
>So no extra race for second one? 4 on launch?
4 playable on launch, yes, with no DLC paywall shenanigans. Though it's still completely up in the air if we'll see a Bretonnia style AI faction for TK's or Araby.

> And fourth one is Skaven I suppose?
Yes, they're just pretending to keep it a secret because of the "skaven don't exist" joke.
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In a combined 3 games warhammer, which army would be the most elite? Meaning having less troops and better strength per model. High elves? Orgres?
>>
>>180851498

Just play Project Reality.
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>>180852563

Ogres 100%
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HOLA SKEENKS
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>>180852271

>Killing them

>Not domesticating them or putting them in the zoo

Why? Why would you even accept their surrender in the first place?

This is why TW should stick to history.
>>
>>180852414

TWC's Roman Reskin
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>>180852563
Ogres without a doubt.

Ogre roster is 95% monstrous infantry and monstrous infantry riding monsters and monstrous cavalry.
>>
>>180843287
Isn't that joke like years old? Why the fuck do people still quote it.

Is it reddit?
>>
>>180852935
Fantasy is and always will be the best place for Total War to be. Deal with it.
>>
why wasn't everyone a heavy armor medium cavalry horse archer melee cavalryman?
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Goblin Dabbing
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>>180852641

that's the thing, i don't enjoy PR but i wanted to give squad a chance
>>
>>180853379
This is the worst meme you autists have ever spawned.
>>
>>180853317

Training
>>
>>180853573
It's not even a meme, it's one guy every thread posting his shit OC
>>
>>180852563
less troops ≠ more elite

Nothing the other armies incoming will have an answer to dorfs

>Ironbreakers to tank everything
>missile units can actually do melee and have a wee bit higher damage than humies, only the elves outrange and outdamage them (Wood Elves are still kang after seeing how generic citizen archers are and Shadow Warriors aren't in the game)
>assortment of useful artillery units
>meme choppaz to drop bombs
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>>180852898
>>
>>180854007

If Dwarfs are so good how come they're one of the worst multiplayer factions?
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For ze LadEAAAUUGH
>>
>start up dozens of Empire campaigns which all blow up in my face due to the large size of the land, the central location, and the fuckery web of dumbass diplomacy that's been tuned down from the historic versions of TW
>That or get wrecked by Chaos
>start a few Bretonnian campaigns
>fuck up Wood Elves early so they're not in my backyard
>Get fucked by Chaos
>start up a Dwarfs campaign as White Dwarf
>It's turn 111 now and I've got fully half the tech tree done
>19k per turn
>I own all the fucking dwarf real estate on the map
>nearly all that real estate is fully upgraded
>throwing in superfluous engineer/thane/runesmith buildings just because I can, not because I must
>demolishing old grain fields to make way for bars or fucking trading posts to get a grand total of five percent fucking gold which amounts to fucking nothing, but I've got to find some way to spend my fucking twenty thousand sheckles per round
>have ten dwarven armies walking around
>two are cleaning up the Skaelings, Varg's completely gone
>all greenskins are gone
>Border Princes are the only southern kingdom left
>currently wiping out wood elves
>Averland and Empire are the only Imperial nations left
>Bretonnia's still there, in the corner
>Chaos Warriors are completely gone
>Vampires are gone
>sack every town and auto resolve
>feeling really fucking bored right now because I just auto resolve every annoying fight
D-do I just say I won and move on? I haven't eliminated everything yet. But why bother?
Everything that was a threat is dashed to the ground, and the Empire is the second most powerful nation. But in the diplomacy power rating, I've got like 97% of that bar over them.

I've got all of the Dwarf legendary lords, even clan blue team dude.
So why should I continue?
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>>180854937
Did you complete your long campaign objectives?
>>
>>180854007
>missile units can actually do melee

And more, in this week's installment of myths and legends of /twg/!
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>>180855176
The only condition left is to ensure there are no grudges. I have one grudge active, which is to level an engineer to 10. I imagine after this it will tell me I've won the long campaign?
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>>180854937
Have you finished your campaign? As in done all the objectives to win? If yes theres no reason to keep playing after that besides fighting random factions.
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>have to load in and out of an absolute joke of a clean up battle because if you auto resolve it your nice high ranked unit low on hitpoints will be wiped out
>>
new thread

>>180855926
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>>180855815
Or when you have to reload and fight the clean-up battle yourself because the AI somehow let the lord walk out of the battle even with 3 cav units and my lord on a dragon.
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Mousilon sails north in imitation of Leon.
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>>180855349
Yes, might as well level him while wiping everyone else out
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