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>Absolute truth
>>180668610

>App 1.14, Regulation 1.35 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/3044845282383816896

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
http://imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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The Paladin character being in edgy black armour is everything wrong with DaS3
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>>180727672
Argo has the best filtered voice in the souls series, right nest to Vilhelm
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dark souls is the wow of soulslikes
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Any chance anyone can either drop me a Harald Knight Curved Greatsword on Ps4? Or be willing to help me transfer one over? If you need bosses done or whatever, im always happy to co op
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>Raime was one of Drangleic's most distinguished knights.[1] He used his favorite bird, the black raven, as his sigil.[2] He was considered by Vendrick as his left arm and was one of his most trusted advisors along with Velstadt.[2] However, he eventually clashed with Velstadt and was deemed a traitor by Vendrick.[2]

Having decided to leave Drangleic behind, Raime devoted his loyalty to Nadalia who gave him a new purpose.[3] Instead of using his ability to expunge black fog, he embraced it to always be by her side.[4]

This sounds like 12 year old kid's DeviantArt OC. It sounds like Lucifer's fantasy.

What a shit fucking game.
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>>180727838
There's plenty of gold/silver armor that can work for a Paladin character, at least how I'd picture one. I guess Hodrick is a Paladin, and he has armor that resembles Leeroy's if he was hit by a bus.
More white medium/heavy armor sets would have been cool.
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>>180728250
>Vendic loved a shard of of Mauses soul
>"Vendric that's stupid don't do that" -Reimu
>Veldstad: "I'll fucking gut u m8"
>"Fine I'm leaving, youall bitchass niggas anyway" - Raime
>"Vendic might have been on to something with the whole shad of manus thing" - Ravenlover

That is the story of Reimu, best waifu.
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>>180728361

He means the Fallen Knight with the ASS by the Paladin ashes
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Anybody on PC wanna drop me a pair of Black Knight leggings?
I've been farming this dickass knight by the Farron Perimeter for an hour and that's all I'm missing.
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Omnibus, if you're reading this, I got him bro. For you. ;_;
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>>180728575
What did Vendrick use shard of Manus's soul for?
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>>180728621
>>180728621
What suggests that guy's supposed to be a paladin?
I don't think the use of ASS and the fact he's standing in front of those ashes is enough to suggest that when he also used twindaggers and no miracles, faith scaling weapons or heavy armor.
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>>180729079
Nothing, he just got pusswhipped.
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>>180729079
>What did Vendrick use shard of Manus's soul for?
Nothing, literally loved her then realized she just wanted power and got depressed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5PdpsfINA

He's right. Souls combat isn't deep enough to carry the game on itself, and focusing on ''difficult'' enemies and bosses that are based purely around moveset memorization when the game is still mechanically simple ''roll to win'' killed the series. AotA is shit. DaS2, 3 and BB are shit. Demon's Souls is a masterpiece
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>>180729415
this but unironically
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>>180729415
stop shilling this shit
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>>180729415
How do real human being type this kind of stuff
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Well, how technical and deep do you want me to go, because i can make a ton of leaps and bounds with this.
But the basic version is that the ASS and the Fallen Knight armor both come from a ruined sort of background, and the ashes mention a Paladin seeking the CotD. He may not be a paladin, but the Fallen Knight armor mentions a sect said knights were apart of.
ASS requires faith to use
Its just a bandit dagger
They were seeking the CotD, which became heavily bleed related. Honestly id say that the fallen knight shanked the his paladin buddy in the back.
Also you find the armor on the way to CotD, meaning the sect of knights were here for a reason. Possibly seeking the CotD. Thus, have a high chance of being Paladins.
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>>180729704
>>180729178
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>>180729593
>>180729645
>braindead nu-souls shits can't even provide an argument
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Alright /dsg/ what am i up for?
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>>180729415
I didn't want to hear about Demon Souls, I wanted his thoughts on DS3 just how he did with DS2.
Fucking let down of a video.
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>>180729860
You're up for the possibly most fun area in DS1, also that fashion is terrible
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>>180729840
did his video even provide an argument? Or was it 20minutes of spouting nonsense and masturbating to common opinions?
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>>180729860
If it's your first run, absolute hell but also fun.
Hope you find that hidden bonfire
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>>180729415
Are you this Nigga
Stop posting your shitty Videos
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Forget about Matthematosis! Watch Plague play Dark Souls and listen to his lore & character analysis!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9bL1LQGK0
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>>180729415
>still can't get rid of his obsession with locking on
Also dude probably regrets going so hard against DS2 since it has a lot of the elements he complains about
>bosses that are more than just roll timing
>very heavy reliance on stats, iframes are even governed by a stat
>weapons that have knockdown properties, bigger difference between light and heavy attacks and how they stagger, weapons that don't combo their hitstun
>even lategame bosses can get parried, greatshields can tank almost everything
>world design that gives you a bunch of main paths that get progressively harder the further along them you are
>bosses rarely delay attacks to catch rolls
>invasions while hollow and the only way to stop them is offline (which has unique NPC invasions) or burning a limited consumable for only bonfire area.
>new PvP gimmicks and tricks with rat invasions forcing you into a somewhat unfamiliar area, giant seeds, blue cops

But instead he got hang up on "you will die over and over again" and never learned how to deal with multi enemy encounters, so now we have him praising DeS for doing things that DaS 2 did as well, while ignoring all of that and ranting about how shit 2 was.
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>>180730103
stupid brainlet
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>>180730009
Not him but I found it first playthrough then died to the fall damage, I was fucking mad
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>>180730430
>died to the fall damage
I feel sorry but also man i am laffin
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>he LITERALLY died to that greathammer drakekeeper in DaS2

how bad
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Am I more likely to be summoned as darkmoon if I'm at anal rodeo? I seem to be getting summoned every few minutes as opposed to hours in between
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>>180730672
>keeps dying in shrine of amana
>can't get past the last bunch of maidens/clerics at the end
please help me
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>>180729415
How would an action game be mechanically hard exactly? Octodad Souls or what? Please give me an example of an action game with deep/mechanically complex combat that feels good in action.

It is ironic how the argument is that later installments feel too game-y when it's obvious this cunt has never fenced, never done any sword work, never sparred in martial arts once in his entire life, meaning he has no reference on which to base this claim.

>arenas ruined muh invasions and therefore the way this game is meant to be played
Kys if you believe that.
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>>180730876
>grab a greatbow and just snipe the fucks
>stop locking on and gain situational awareness, you can literally walk out of the way of the soul arrows, no need to run or roll
platform, game version SM and just summon help
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>>180727931
I JUDICATOR ARGO SHALL DELIVER THEE JUSTICE
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>>180730876
Poison arrows?
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>>180730914
devil may cry 3
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>>180727672
hey guys i started playing a Solaire Cosplay character in Dark Souls (1). Its my first Faith character ever so i have two realy noobish questions and i hope you like to help me.

1. Because the character will get a full 50 Faith build to use the Spear of Sunlight in the end, is it a good idea to make a +15 Sunlight Straight Sword or is a +10 Divine Sunlight Straight Sword the better option?

2. I would love to use the "Sword of Sunlight" miracle for my build. Is it possible to use it with a Divine weapon? I guess not... correct?
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>>180731008
I just got to the bonfire on the other end and I read this
apparently the real solution is not being retarded, which is most of what you said
thanks for the help anyway
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>>180727931
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>>180731445
I actually forgot about aldia, I'm sorry.

>A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE
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>Invading another world
>Error could not invade due to time out
Is it my internet or am I being matched up with Chinese?
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>despite popular belief, this purple flame weapon with the same colour scheme as the sunset set is NOT in fact a mound maker covenant weapon
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Does Dark Souls 3 possess any form of an actual final boss that gives some form of an emotionally satisfying fight? Or is it just another pointless fucking boss?

One thing DaS2 did right was to at least establish a villain.
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>>180730914
>How would an action game be mechanically hard exactly?
What kind of fucking question is that, have you never played anything other than nu-souls shit? Ninja Gaiden? Devil May Cry? Bayonetta?

And of course you had to be a boring piece of shit who participates in arena duelfaggotry garbage, in a game series with some of the most unique and innovative PvP systems there is

Also take this ''kys'' shit back to your favourite meme site where it came from, you cancerous little fuck
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>>180731859
>being this assmad
kys
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>>180730914
>>arenas ruined muh invasions and therefore the way this game is meant to be played
>Kys if you believe that.
this is right though
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>>180731828
>throne watcher and defender have good emotional build up
lol sure what ever you say anon. At this point I'm surprised you're even playing souls 3
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>>180731828
>One thing DaS2 did right was to at least establish a villain.
No, it didn't.

Gael is probably what you are looking for though. He plays the role they originally wanted Oscar from DaS1 to play.
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>>180731980
He meant the boss after, retard.
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>>180731859
>Ninja Gaiden? Devil May Cry? Bayonetta?
Those are all easy, and Bayonetta is all about timed rolls too.
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>>180732014
>appears once
>plays the role of oscar
lmao
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What is some good rings to pair with Friede's?
I got Chloranthy+3, FaP+3, Prisoner's.

In between Left eye (for HP) or Havels (HA)
Any help?
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>>180732014
>>No, it didn't.
>DaS2 establishes that Kevin Nash drove poor Vendrick loonytunes
>In the final battle you can literally beat her to death with an effigy of herself that Vendrick made in his misplaced love and devotion
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>>180732132
>appears and asks you to do his quest
>decides to try to complete it himself
>acts as your foil
>ends in battle with a bittersweet conclusion
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>>180731828
mechanically and thematically yes
story wise no, both end bosses have basically no build up and are just dudes
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>>180731859
>>180731236
You two jokers believe that memorizing inputs/key presses and mashing them at the speed required is 'mechanically hard' or in any way different than memorizing movesets and rolling as required? There's a reason why those games are called spectacle fighters, they're just made to look flashy. None of that SUGOI GORILLION HIT COMBO would look/feel good in a souls game and that's the main argument of that stupid video - the feeling was supposedly lost.

>unique and innovative PvP
Absolutely, I never argued otherwise. Sometimes I want to invade and be a part of the asymmetrical PvP, sometimes I want to have a one on one to practice the actual combat mechanics. The two are not mutually exclusive and one doesn't take away from the other.

>Also take this ''kys'' shit back to your favourite meme site where it came from, you cancerous little fuck
Take a look at that address bar on your browser and tell me which site exactly are you on right now.
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>>180732327
No, sir, I think your very birth was a mistake.
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What's a good Curved Sword I can use very early on?
I wanna make a dexfag, but I don't wanna use a Katana, and I don't want be stuck using raw weapons for half the game.
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@180732726
How hard is it to google "dark souls curved swords"?
Fucking retard.
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>>180732726
Pick merc for twinblades or buy scimitar from the shrine handmaiden.
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Hand it over. That thing, your PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOOOOOOOUSE TONIGHT
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>>180732849

>cant even reply properly
Good work champ, you sure showed him
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>make faith mage
>it's shit
>make luck sorc
>it's shit
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@180732975
>being THIS new
sure smells like summer in here
also, nice reddit spacing
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>>180733057
>>180732849
>being this autistic
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Why is one-handed small sword r1 spam so rewarding in pvp?
Any moveset/builds to counter this?
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>>180733020
>faith mage
you mean pyro?

>luck sorc
luck is always shit as a combat stat
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>>180732718
>Being this much out of arguments
Hahah
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>>180731313
The best is normal+sunlight blade, which is what I assume you mean by "sword of sunlight". No, divine weapons cannot be buffed without a relatively tedious to perform glitch. Solaire doesn't use that miracle though, so if you want to have the best accuracy for the best results, use divine
>>180727931
FUCKING FOOLISHFAGS
GET THE FUCK OUT OF FILIANORE'S CHURCH
GWYN DAAAAMN
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>>180733210
2H Ultra weapons
spear outpacing
FUCKING PARRYING
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>>180733210
>Why is one-handed small sword r1 spam so rewarding in pvp?
Because they made straightsword hitboxes large and latency small and gave them 360 degree tracking, making them as OP as they were in DeS

>Any moveset/builds to counter this?
anything with poise or range
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>>180733290
You can't listen to him and not think of the true hero of deep voices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hg8_Jw7v2g
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should I use dark pyromancy flame or just upgrade the normal pyromancy flame?
are they any different at all?
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i've had more multiplayer interactions in 12 hours with scholar of the first sin than i have in 100+ hours of mostly emebered/member of a covenant play in dark souls 3
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>>180733769
Because DS2 is on discount and it's more fun
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>>180727672
Somebody speaking Japanese?
Got this PSN Mail


悪いことは言わないから回線見直して、どうぞ
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>>180733298
>>180733210

Straight swords closely followed by their other 'one handed' counterparts are the best precisely because nothing can beat them consistently, especially not ultra weapons. Your average shitter might get caught in an ultra combo and get chunked for half his hit points, but a good player will just run circles and your only option is rolling attacks which are parryable. Spears/halberds are probably your best option, but you're still at a disadvantage.
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>>180732970
/tv/ pls stay
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where can I get summoned the most in DS2?
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>>180733856
Reminder on why /tv/ leaves their shithole
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>>180733692
Dark Pyromancy Flame's fire bonus scales off hollowing, and has higher base damage. So if you're fully hollow it usually always does more damage than the regular flame, ranging from 3%-20% extra spell depending on your int/fth and hollowing.

There's not enough seeds to upgrade both in one game unless you burn an ascetic at the giant's memory a few times. If you do that you can upgrade both.
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>>180733692
>>180734001
also because there's hollow scaling, if you aren't fully hollow then dark pyromancy flame is awful
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>>180733823
>google translate
>I will not say bad things, so please review the circuit, please

maybe something along the lines of "I'm trying to be polite, but check the map, retard?"
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>>180734125
>>180734001
Did you actually try this ingame? Because I remember Dark Pyro Flame had higher base damage and better INT+FTH scaling and got more damage with every upgrade. Some anons have mentioned in the way older threads: Dark flame is literally better than normal flame even when you're human.
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>>180732718
I'm sorry but you actually lost to Lucifer. As much of a faggot as he is sometimes, in this case he provided actual and legit arguments in >>180732327
.

>>180732014

Nashandra is kind of established as much of a villain as the Dark Souls series is capable of. The emerald meme specifically warns you that Nashandra is trying to take the throne and she's definitely presented as a villain.

Now, if your argument is that she's presented POORLY, you have some grounds for that, but she's definitely presented to you as the villain of the game.
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>>180734214
Telling you for your own good, check your connection please.
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Just started DS3 as deprived, not sure how I want to mold this guy, any builds I should avoid?
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>>180733906
bellfry luna

iron keep bridge

black gulch

shrine of amana

fume knight

old iron king
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>>180734363
magic is for niggers
don't be a nigger
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>>180734363
Avoid a pure faith build. It's just trash, you fucking hit anything.
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>>180734363
luck, luck is useless
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>>180734302
>Dark flame is literally better than normal flame even when you're human.
This might be a pre-patch thing before hollow scaling weapons were changed or something.

Dark Flame has -270 scaling if you are human. If you are hollowed out, it is ALWAYS better than regular flame no matter what. If you are human, it is always worse. The difference between the two is only ever about 20% or less though so it's rarely worth upgrading and staying hollow to use unless you're dying a lot or doing a forlorn cosplay
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>>180734395
Where exactly in Shrine of Amana? I'm in front DoS's fogdoor waiting for a host.
I want medallions, not help people get through that shitty but pretty area
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>>180734506
Luck still gets a straight sword. Hardly useless compared to resistance.
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>>180734570
Always hate myself for leveling up resistance to 30 back in souls 1. Never realized it was a dumping stat, and how my first ever playthrough was a fucking chore because of low damage.....
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the "activate multiple bloodpools at once" feature is fucking incredible
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>>180734214
>>180734362
I have 250k Business internet, it must be his connection
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>>180734561
if you want sunlight medals you should have co-op'd at earthen peak, gargoyles, or smelter demon. Just keep going until you get to fume knight or old iron king.

Also bosses where you need to summon lucatiel for quests might be useful.
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>>180734736
I highly suggest you download GeDoSaTo.
>buffing for PvE mobs
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>>180727672
Should I level Vitality in Ds2?
Are armors uselful and should i reinforce my armor?
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>>180734815
>earthen peak, gargoyles, or smelter demon.
Fug
I didn't kill the gargoyles yet, but my SM is too high to get summoned.
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>invading as red in gank city
>an aldrich faithful invades too
>he goes after me instead of the three man gank squad
FUCK YOU WHY ARE FAITHFULS SUCH FUCKING MORONS
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>>180734813
bandwidth doesn't matter for games, ping time and packet loss does. US cable internet has significantly higher pings (and has to cover much longer distances) than what Japan fiber optics /ADSL does. From games are basically designed for Japan's low ping internet and then ported to the US.
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>>180734460

Do you mean you dont hit anything?
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>>180734879
He probably turned off his HUD and buffed for the screenshot like the autist he is.

>>180734909
Don't get more than 10 VIT if you intend to use Flynn's Ring
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>>180734909
No. Leave it at 9 or 10 and name your character Rob(in) Flynn.
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>>180735012
*Sniff* ah you smell that? That's the sweet smell of sale kiddie blood. Nothing better for summer. Twinks out in full force today.
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>>180734736
Seeing 7 dudes jump down the same hole is always satisfying

>>180734909
Armor is super useful as poise actually works, unless you are minmaxing for a SL120 PvP meta build (which is a really stupid idea on your first playthrough) then level it so you can wear medium/heavy armor and still maintain 30-50% equip load.
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>>180735008
>>180735041
Is Flynns ring this good in this game?
My vit is at 10 right now
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>>180735183
s-source on image
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>>180734909
Definitely level vit, but do it more to equip heavier weapons and/or power stance. You should be staying around 50% load or less because even though 70% is mid roll, your walking speed and roll distance is crippled.

Armor drastically increases your pve physical defense, but does dick all for elemental defense or pvp defense. Leveling vit allows you to

+500 physical defense vs 1000 is about a 30-40% reduction in damage in pve, so once your health is decent vit offers better returns than vig.

>>180735008
>>180735041
Don't listen to this idiots and use a soul vessel for flynn's ring when you acquire it after 80% of the game. Plenty of reasons to level vit before then.
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>>180735183
Check the screenshot date.
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>>180734815
I've been alternating between DoS and Velstadt at about 1.56 mil for SM, but it's slow work. I thought I'd get more availability for the Ivory King fight, but it's been mostly empty.
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>>180735213
Ring of Blades + Flynn Ring + Engraved Gauntlets are really good, yes.
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>>180735213
Ignore luci, flyns is good, you gain a flat +50 damage as long as your equip load is below 60, but doing a rob flynn build kind of assumes that you are familiar enough with the game to
1) Only use light weapons
2) Only use light no poise armors
3) Get hit rarely because of your low armor
4) Can't poisetank through attacks
5) Can't powerstance
6) Can't use heavy weapons
7) Can't have weapons in other slots to swap to

It works, but only if your willing to commit to it hard
Also you can always just respec later (9 is the breakpoint for max flynn ring damage with Third Dragon Ring, 14 for no third dragon ring)
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>>180735012
>>180735183
>>180735275
Assuming this is the undead settlement bonfire, half of those are from people following wiki guides and killing themselves deliberately to raise their hollowing for yoel's questline before killing greatwood
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>>180735210
>>180735256
So it is possible to tank through everything like in 1? Somehow I liked the hyperarmor poise in 3 better, it feels more realistic
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heh.. he'll never see me coming...
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>>180734686
I don't get this meme. Is he some sjw crybaby or what?
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>>180735213
It's good but you don't get it until near the end of the game, so leveling up for it is pointless.

>>180735316
Throw your sign down at the king's gate bonfire. You can get summoned there for watcher/defender, twin dragonriders, nashandra, or aldia. 1.56 SM is acceptable for those. You're too low for ivory king.

Make sure you throw agape ring on.
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>>180735490
Buddy DS3 poise is half of DS2's poise system.
You get normal poise that lets you tank attacks and not get interrupted, using heavy weapons gives you hyperpoise that multiplies your poise and makes attacks that would otherwise always stagger you count as normal poise damage.
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>>180729415
hang yourself and livestream it lmao
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>>180735490
>So it is possible to tank through everything like in 1? Somehow I liked the hyperarmor poise in 3 better, it feels more realistic
Yes but you need 90-100 poise and an ultra weapon.

If you want to be a pure defense tank, go a faith/strength build and use a greatshield with great magic barrier and really high stamina. Greatshields are as OP as ever. They synergize well with lances too
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>>180731859
>he doesnt know this is 4chan
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>>180735610
Okay, that range is far more active than I thought
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>>180735239
Sidhe, new local drawfriend. He takes simple requests if you find him
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>>180735509
why is chameleon such as a a spell
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>>180735523
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/colbertposting

He's a comedian.
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>>180735389
>1) Only use light weapons
Craftsman Hammer + Estoc is the best setup in the game for PvE.
>2) Only use light no poise armors
Stop being a shitter and learn to dodge.
>3) Get hit rarely because of your low armor
You can use a shield if you suck at rolling.
>4) Can't poisetank through attacks
See above.
>5) Can't powerstance
Power stances are a meme. It was good at launch but was nerfed to the point of being practically useless.
>6) Can't use heavy weapons
Again. CH and Estoc are the best for PvE anyway.
>7) Can't have weapons in other slots to swap to
Blatant lie.

9 + 3rd Dragon is the max. 10 +3rd dragon is only slightly less than max. You get +50 at 9 and +49 at 10, IIRC.
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>>180735827
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Is there a chance for DS1 remake? I want that shit so hard.
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>>180735775
>>180735490

Is that for PvE or PvP poise?
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HAVE FAITH
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How do I get (You)s on /dsg/, /dsg/?
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>>180735937
Yes, it's called Dark Souls 3
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Why is getting invaded so much more fun than invading?
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>>180735896
>HEY GUYS spend 80% of the game using a shitty unoptimized git gud build just so that you can get an extra 50 damage later on after you beat most of the pve!
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>>180735954
>DS2 PvP poise
Aii lmao good luck optimizing for that
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml
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>>180736002
>no giantdad
that's not a remake.
>>180736012
because you don't know what to expect.
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>>180735954
Both.
100 poise without an ultra weapon, 50 poise with an ultra weapon is where you -start- to see an effect, but only against light attacks.

200 poise (not obtainable) with a light weapon or 100 poise with an ultra weapon is where you see regular effects.

http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/poise

It's really not worth it unless you're end game and have ring of giants +2.
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>>180736093
>giandad
fuck off with your shitty meme build
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>>180735970
You gotta love em back and post without source newfriend.
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>>180735954
This dude >>180736140 is overblowing it, even a full alonne knight set will see you tanking 3-4 hollow attacks before staggering.
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>>180736140

Armour like the Drangleic set is useful no matter what weapon you're using. You won't get staggered by little things like dogs.
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Vanilla DS2 or SOTFS
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>>180736180
h-how dare you...!
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>>180735970
Get a trip and be consistently wrong about everything, do note that this will make people on the internet call you a mongoloid.
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>>180735610
>>180735613
>>180735775
Ok thanks
For a Hybrid build should I go 40/40 STR/FAI or where do i get the most Fun Out of a build? It's to Latein for Gexea since I am too far in and concentrated in STR alone (at 30 currently)
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>>180736305
SOTFS, it's better overall with some exceptions *cough*ironkeep*cough* and nobody plays vanilla anymore
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>>180736305
Scholar, no question
>>180736325
Or provoke useless arguments. The trip may deter some from granting (You)s
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>>180736305

Vanilla with DLC.
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>>180736040
>DaS2 babbies don't know how to roll or block
Can't say I surprised, to be honest.
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>>180736340
* too late for Hexes
autocorrect
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>>180736186
Okay, I love all my (You)s, but now I want a source, pls.
>>180736325
But I don't want drama, I just want (You)s
Is there a more consistent way that doesn't involve shitposting /dsg/?
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>Decide to make a fun Dex character and upgrade the Great Scythe.
>Find out how terrible it is.
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>>180736249
>>180736232
both of these guys have a point, I mentioend 50-100 poise for tanking boss attacks. For dogs and arrows and small hollow attacks, yes, less poise still sees a difference.

The default knight set is really good but locked behind a fragrant branch

>>180736305
see: >>180735775

>>180736340
40/40 str/fth is perfect. You get the highest gains between 30 and 40, and 30 minimum is what you need to equip some of the best greatshields and heavy weapons.
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>>180736340
Keep in mind your endgame character in 2 will be SL150+, around 200 if you occasionally coop and don't first try every area, levels are not as restrictive as you would think.
The most fun STR weapon is the smelter hammer, it takes 70 STR to use 99 to powerstance, but its kind of a fringe case.

Once you get your faith up then take a weapon with high-ish base damage (or innate lightning damage) infuse it with lighting and buff with sunlight weapon/gold pine resin for maximum damage.
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>>180736542
You could try making OC, if you're up for the challenge. Have people post their characters and draw them in different styles, if you want.
It struck me that your mere asking for how to get (You)s is getting you the thing you desire. Was this your plan all along?
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>>180736340
Oh also, get a token of fidelity. If you give that to the NPC after the old dragonslayer, he will let you buy infinite boltstones so you can infuse all your weapons with lightning. There's a token of fidelity in huntsman's copse if you don't want to co-op with another player to get it.
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>>180736618
What the heck is the point of a level meta in dark souls 2 if soul memory exists? I remember I just began leveling up whatever whenever I could since there wasn't a reason not to
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>>180736747
I can't draw worth shit, but I've written some smut before.
Dunno if you lads are interested in that or if I can write anything DarkSouls-y at all
Also yes.
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>>180736816
>What the heck is the point of a level meta in dark souls 2 if soul memory exists?
Internet penis comparisons I would presume. Iunno, some people are really really into proving that their build is good by sticking to a certain SL limit.
Never cared personally, I did my 300k SM Rob Flynn twink, so beating endgame bosses at SL120 as opposed to 150 always seemed like a really silly thing to do.
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>>180736883
Write a sirris and ashen one fic(straight, no lez shit), and I'll feed ya (yous)s for days nigger. I'm tired of this gay shit!
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>>180736816
>>180736952
>What the heck is the point of a level meta in dark souls 2 if soul memory exists? I remember I just began leveling up whatever whenever I could since there wasn't a reason not to

Because leveling up costs a lot of souls and the tiers get larger proportionally, meaning that late game matchmaking is almost entirely SL based.

Even if you spend souls ONLY on leveling up, 1 matchmaking tier at the SL200 costs more than buying out every shop in the entire game. Meaning that at that range, matchmaking is purely based on your level and how many souls you are holding/lost, shop has no effect anymore. And at SL220 you are hardcapped, any higher and you will start matchmaking with SL800 players.

When you reach SL150, you will only be able to matchmake with people up to SL165 or lower because levels start costing so much. 220 is where even being perfectly soul level efficient will cause you to cap your SM at 9-12m, any higher and you start matchmaking with max-leveled SL800 characters.

All SM does differently is make your bottom SL range extremely large assuming the other player is very inefficient with spending their souls. Otherwise, it's almost always determined by SL after SL150 because of the cost of leveling and wideness of the tiers.
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Explaining and theorizing about any Souls or Bloodborne lore is bad because..........?????

No, seriously, why is it bad?
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>>180736883
Writing isn't too bad of an idea, but smut gets really stale. Write it based on a character, some humorous situation, the Abyss Watchers killing each other over who's Artorias' biggest fan, something like that.
If you absolutely must write smut, try a threesome between Heysel, Kirk, and Creighton in Rosaria's Bedchamber from Leonhard's perspective while he sulks in a corner.
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>>180737357
Because it's just theory and not that much concrete outside of locations and spells. Half of it is retcons the other half is just there for scenery. Blood borne is just lovecradt pop-up book (that's not bad) and some more references of artists thrown in. It's story is their but Wildely ok in terms of presentation.
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>>180737335
Oh also, these are the softcaps for SM tiers:
>1.5m = SL150 if you level efficiently
>3m = SL200 if you level efficiently
>9m = SL244 if you level efficiently
>12m = SL255 if you level efficiently

Also, to reach the "equivalent" power of a SL120 build in DS1, you need to be SL200.
>50 vig
>50 end
>40/40
>13 vit (fast roll on 40 equip load)
>2 spell slots
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>>180737229
>>180737365
I'll consider your suggestions
I don't wanna lead you anons on because I have absolutely no motivation or self-esteem
But you should feel free to continue feeding me (You)s though
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>>180735339
So uh.. Are you ever going to re-record this or are you going to keep posting the same 4+ year old webm?
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>>180737515
>retcons

Multiverse theory
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>>180737664
Ok solaire, you got face fucked by a bug go away...
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>tfw ps4 broke
>tfw sent it to Sony
>tfw it's been 3 weeks now
>tfw my skills are most certainly declining and I'll be shit once I get back
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>>180737646
With the Rosaria's Fingers one, write Leonhard being as snarky as he possibly can, and always mention how the festivities will never compare to the embrace of his goddess. Also have the Ashen One with him, who joins the other three after hearing enough of Leonhard's shit.
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>>180737653
I'll keep posting it whenever it is relevant. Rerecording it for no reason would be highly inefficient, especially since I have no desire to ever play DaS2 again.
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>>180737646
Then consider this a last (you). Until I see results....
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>>180737335
>meaning that late game matchmaking is almost entirely SL based.
Ayyy-lmao fucking what?
A minumum investment SL150 build (literally 0 souls spent on nothing but levels, not even weapon or armor upgrades) will land you in the 1.5 mil SM tier, this lets you get matched up with up to 2.7 mil SM, which is SL180.

Thats a 30 level difference, and that's assuming you stop at SM1.5 which is not what most people do, the birdge for better or worse is usually around 2-4 mil SM, even the low end of that, 2 mil SM, matches you up with people up to 7 mil SM, thats enough for SL230, so if you stop at say 120, you would be matched with people that have 100 levels on you.

200 is where it starts petering out, that's when the costs start getting too high for SL fuggery, but anything below that is people stopping for the sake of it rather than wanting duels at a smiliar level.
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>>180737646

>>180737935 just gave me an idea, have Tsorig showing Alsanna the true power of the FUGS
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>>180737823
>>tfw sent it to Sony

Huh? They can fix it for you? For real?

I wouldn't if I was Sony, I'd just force you to buy it or sue to for sexual harassment and attempted theft of corporate property, then send you to Russia as a tongueless slave secretly bought by Norks, for Norks, over Norks, and at Norks.
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>>180738084
Better then gay/lez fic #387 that's not even bothered to be continued anyway.
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>>180737935
>>180737832
I would love to give you two all the jerk off material I can make, anons, but I can't put my works out there because I can't stop feeling they're too shitty
>>180738084
P-Pls.
I have severe autism about writing characters being in-character, and I don't have a good grasp of Dark Souls' characters so I can't write a good piece about them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180738084
Friendly reminder that Bearer Seek Seek lest did the exact same thing as Tsorig did.
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Has anyone fared well in this game with a spear? I really want to use them but they're just not good at facing multiple opponents which happens pretty often. Makes for fantastic fights against NPCs like Havel though, that was fun as hell.

If you have, any recommendations?

>>180727672
Is that Shaq?
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is there an explanation why DaS3 didn't have bonfire ascetics? I want to grind bossess god damn it!
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>tfw gael's second phase keeps fucking me up
That fucking cape man
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>>180738228
No one cares how shitty your works are, you just need to post them. You can't get any better otherwise. Since most of the characters aren't very well-rounded in the sense that we don't know much about them, that gives you more or less a free reign with writing them. It's only the ones that we know a great deal about where it gets tricky, and then you just need to put yourself in their mindset.
>>180738267
I think Tsorig would have been a little rougher
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>>180738421
>is there an explanation why DaS3 didn't have bonfire ascetics?
Yes.
From was too scared of people not like 3 if it was too much like 2 so they removed every major gameplay mechanic that game introduced, the fanbase didn't know what they didn't like about 2 so it was easier to just go "fuck all of that" and not even try.
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>>180727672
>pedophilia
explain
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>>180738421
go to NG+ then
be a summon
From hates DS2 and wants to ignore it and its lore entirely
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>>180738324

>Has anyone fared well in this game with a spear?

Which one? DeS, DaS, DaSII, DaSIII?

In DaSIII, Saint Bident is currently one of the best defensive playstyle weapons in the game
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>>180738421
read the fugs description
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>>180738324
I just did a Lothric Knight's Long Spear run, it's alright. Multiple opponents aren't that much of an issue if you can free aim, which I kinda sucked at. The range is pretty nice but I wish it had more damage.
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>>180738737
Sorry, 3.

Why's the Bident so good?
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>>180738774
how is that related?
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>>180738540
I care how shitty they are, anon, because I make them.
Thank you for being so supportive though.
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>>180738961
Trust me, I've written some total shit. But I liked it.
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>>180738901
Hmm, yeah. Not great at free aiming.

How'd you manage big crowds?
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>>180739030
There's no convincing him at this point anon. He won't budge, his material will forever be in his fucking brain. never coming out.
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>>180738935

Longest length spear in the game, damage scales with faith, is buffable despite this making it excellent on a hybrid faith build, especially ones that lean towards STR. Which is currently one of the strongest builds there is, since many STR weapons work wonderfully with faith buffs such as the Crucifix, Splitlead, Winged Knight Twinaxes, Drang Twinhammers, Greatsword, Exile Curved Greatsword

It basically just caps of a particularly popular build archetype, while still being perfectly viable on a pure melee build due to its long range

Though for the sake of the weapon art I'd probably go with a Ringed Knight Spear on a pure melee
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>>180738935
>the longest spear in the game
>shits out damage
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>>180739161
I'm backed up in the same way with a bunch of ideas for actual attempts at short stories. Some are trash, but a few might be able to fly, even if only for seconds. I really need to get started on them.
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>>180739193
>>180739240
Wow, I've actually wanted to do a STR/FTH build for a while now and I'm interested in spears.

If you guys had a build for me I'd be eternally grateful.
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>>180738951
>he doesn't know
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>>180727672
after finishing ds2
why did the game lack "HOLY SHIT" moments like ds1/3 and bb had
its not a bad game but it just feels medicore with some serious downfalls concerning level design, mechanics and boss fights (especially the OST's)
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>>180738951
>and became a forgotten relic of history.
>forgotten history
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>>180739450
How is that related to a gameplay mechanic?
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>>180739354

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/215028

Just uploaded it, there's somewhere for you to start

You'd be using faith mostly for the buffs in PvP since your cast speed will be absolute arse, but the damage you'll be able to shit out will be horrendous

DMB for most weapons, Dark Blade for Crucifix, Lightning Blade can be useful against casters as they won't have as much END to buff their lightning defense. Force is on there because it's one of the most useful spells in the game
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>>180739035
Good old lure them out and finish them off one buy one, I sometimes used throwing darts to draw the aggro.
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>>180739590

Also worth mentioning, something I forgot to do with that build: Best starting class would be knight
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>>180739434
>why did the game lack "HOLY SHIT" moments like ds1/3 and bb had

Because it lacked a long-term overall game structure. DS2 is a patchwork quilt of individual levels and bosses and ideas, but without any overall theme. Part of that was them wanting to make a larger, more open world style of gameplay, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that its development was completely fucked by the first director (Shibuya) and a year out from release they only had a few levels half-finished when bandai demanded a complete graphics downgrade for PS3.

So things like the opening intro, overall story, player guidance, and building up hype over the game was secondary to just getting the game finished and content filled out and making it run properly.
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>>180739590
>>180739730
God damn, thanks. This looks awesome.

Why DMB and DB though? I figure one of those and lightning blade would be a little more variety, no?
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>>180740040
So 2 was more or less doomed from the start, is what you're saying.
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>>180739590
>>180739730

Oh, and take advantage of the following weapons:

Dragonslayer Axe
Millwood Battle Axe (use with a weapon art shield, the WA charge it a hit confirm for an R1)
Winged Knight Twinaxes
Great Club
Greatsword (would need 28 STR to one hand, but you should be 2handing anyway)
Crucifix of the Mad King
Saint Bident
Broadsword/longsword (combined with a good stability med shield, or if you can get to 30str via knight ring use Wolf Knight Greatshield)
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>>180739354
This allows you to use pretty much every weapon you could want on str/fth build:
saint bident
lothric knight greatsword
crucifix of the mad king
murky hand scythe
spiked mace
splitleaf greatsword
winged knight twinaxes
drakeblood greatsword
claymore
wolnir's holy sword
sunlight straight sword
and more
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>>180739434
Shouldnt have played that garabage LMAO
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>>180740128

You have 18 ATT with the build I gave you, enough to have 3 of the 4 available weapon buffs for FAI users. You can pick and choose which you run with based on what you're likely to face

As an example, if you're invading, you almost always want to have the force miracle on you. Ideally a heal too. So you'll be carrying one buff. I'd say chose either DMB for the majority of weapons since High END buffs lightning res, or Dark Blade if you're using a weapon such as the Crucifix

If you're in a dueling environment, 1v1, heals won't matter and neither will force. Take all three elemental buffs to cover all possible bases
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I haven't played since launch.
Is a faith/ish build viable?

I loved the dragonslayer spear and swordspears.
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>>180740146
It was given a tiny budget to make a bigger game by a director that had no experience or any idea what he was doing. They brought a bunch of old From producers and directors out of retirement to fix it a year from the release date, so it's amazing that what we got is as good as it was.

The company was trying to work on 3 games at once with barely any staff, one of which was a passion project without it's lead director. They were spread far too thin to really give DS2 the attention and budget it needed.

In concept DS2 is a better, bigger, and more unique game than DS1/DS3. It needed three times the budget to pull that off though, so what we got instead was a game full of great ideas with poor execution.

DS2 is also a lot more reminiscent of older From games in that way, when they used to make more unique progression and gameplay styles and change things up more frequently. DS3 is the weird one, since it's basically just a remaster of DS1 but with even less unique progression.
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>>180740216

Not after if was nerfed.
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>>180740474
Wasn't Bamco also trying to push it out the door as quickly as possible with BB on the horizon?
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>>180740216
Lothric Knight and Farron are the best, astora is second, along with profaned.
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>>180739434
DS2 is just boring, it has lots of shit but none of them excite you.
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>>180740474
>DS2 is actually the best guise, it's just a big plot against the game XD
>DS3 is a rip off from one
How can you be this delusional
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>Four Lothric Knight Shields, two sets of leggings, three gloves, three swords

COUGH UP THE ARMOR ALREADY YOU KNIGHT SHITS.
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>>180740395
Sounds great, thanks.

>>180740182
>>180740292
Yeah I was hoping for a build that lets me try out most weapons associated with those stats.

Is that a refined or heavy gem for Saints Bident?


I'm excited. DaS has become boring because I never really try new builds. It's either STR or DEX or quality. Maybe these spells/miracles you people use will breathe some new life into the game for me. Then I can try DaS2.
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>>180740780
>Wasn't Bamco also trying to push it out the door as quickly as possible with BB on the horizon?

Yep. Originally they wanted an early PS4 release before bloodborne. But then it became obvious that the game was behind schedule and would need to be delayed, so out of fear they changed it to a multi-generation release to shit out a PS3 version faster by using a simpler and worse lighting engine.
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>>180741000

Heavy, refined is naff outside of quality builds and both heavy and sharp infusions got a buff
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>>180741018
And SOTFS came later to resolve that mistake, or release what should have been released in the first place.
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>>180739434
DS2 was my first souls game so I liked it but after playing DS3 and Bloodborne there are just so many more memorable moments.

Like even Vordt was a fucking awesome boss with the music in sync
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>>180740780
With good reason.
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>>180741089
>And SOTFS came later to resolve that mistake, or release what should have been released in the first place.
So you mean DaS2 is just shit in the first place? Because SotFS is also fucking awful.
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>>180741000
heavy like with all the weapons
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>>180740915
Thats not what he said you autistic fuck.

He said DS2 tried to do too much and half-baked everything as a result.
DS3 was a re-tread of 1 with less expansive exploration but overall; way higher in quality than DS2.
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>>180731236
>>180731859
Sorry to bring the conversation back to this, but I really don't understand this argument from the Matthewmatosis video. Yes, those sorts of action games might have "deeper" combat in terms of pure player options, but they're also going for something COMPLETELY different form the feels of Souls combat. The appeal of combat in these games is the weight and impact of it, and the feeling of it being relatively grounded in what you can and can't do. Sure your character can roll around in heavy platemail swinging an impossibly huge hammer at a dragon, but you're just juggling foes and doing air combos or doing huge complicated attacks dashing all around. The appeal of Souls combat is in combining this simple yet satisfying set of player options with interesting enemies and environments.

Hell, Nioh tries to fix this exact complaint by taking Souls-like combat and adding "depth" with weapon combos and a more involved stamina system and it only goes so far with the game is filled with repetitive and uninspired enemies or bland environments.
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>>180740915
>all the things DS2 did to improve over DS1
>all the things DS3 didn't include or did worse from DS2

I'm not saying DS2 is the best, it's obviously the worst. I'm saying the game design concepts behind it were way more unique and interesting than what they put into DS3, even though DS3's is far better executed.
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>>180738421
>is there an explanation why DaS3 didn't have bonfire ascetics?
They don't really fit the Souls' style at all and they imo mostly just a difficulty selector for people complaining about DS2 being too easy.

And as a bandaid to the pants-on-head retarded way From handled enemy respawns and grinding discouragement. The ascetics are unnecessary because From decided to not be retarded this time around.

Plus you can reset Spear of the Church boss to be alive again for a bunch of Souls so there's your bonfire asscetic.

>I want to grind bossess god damn it!'
Play Bloodborne then.
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>>180740915
They will forever be ass mad at everyone hating it and bullying them for liking it. No amount of research for its development can ease the damage done. At this point it's either buy the game for 12$ or not at all lol.
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Hey /dsg/ I just finished DS3. I feel like I'm hollowing IRL, I only wanted to talk to the furtive pygmy or acquire the Dark Soul. I am so sad, also the lord of hollows ending fucking sucks.
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>>180741271
I believe that the higher ups openly admitted to releasing an unfinished game, and that Scholar is just what it should have been initially.
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>>180741089
>It's still bullshit
Good solution

>>180741131
This.
Iudex' soundtrack and presentation is better than DS2 as a whole.
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>want to go back to Dark Souls 3
>was my first run
>last time I played I was shitfaced
>boot up game a few months later
>no idea where Im supposed to go

pls halp, theres like three different routes I can go
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>>180741089
Softs still doesn't have the promised lighting engine.
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>>180741638
How can we help you if we don't know where you are?
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>>180741460
>tried to block this guy's path
>he changed the direction
That's pretty funny, I wonder if it's possible to send him back to Gael with multiple phantoms.
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>>180741512
>>180741704
The original DS2 was a pile of shit, Scholar was more like a better designed pile of shit with a flower on it.
As >>180740474 said, it was basically one foot in the grave from the get-go
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>get invaded by some mexican
>begin trading with him, hes not taking any damage
>4 hits later i jump back cause hes not taking damage, is he a hacker?
>suddenly takes 1200 dmg from my swings 5 seconds ago and dies
why do these people invade? he almost killed me because of his shit internet.
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>>180741332
>>180741318
>In concept DS2 is a better, bigger, and more unique game than DS1/DS3. It needed three times the budget to pull that off though, so what we got instead was a game full of great ideas with poor execution.

Hmmmmm, yes totally not said it.

>DS3 is the weird one, since it's basically just a remaster of DS1 but with even less unique progression.

>Guise they mentioned some NPCs from 1 with their respective armor and weapons and the worst part is Soul of Cinder mentions THIS WHITE CIS CUM GWYN
>Fucking rip off, it's basically 1 with a different name

>>180741428
Just look at the buttblasted contradiction every 2 posts lel
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>>180741761

Im up to Distant Manor in Irithyl and Profaned Capital in Irithyl Dungeon

Im on PS4 btw
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>>180741916
>he almost killed me because of his shit internet
Lag switching is an intentional tactic used by some people. They turn multiple porn torrents on while pvp:ing to get a bad connection and kil the host that way.
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is there some explanation of the covenants? why are there blue sentinels and blades of dark moon? thought they did the same thing
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>>180742006
Anon you do know what in concept means right?
The guy said "In concept DS2 is better but it's not", but you just read "DS2 is better" and ignored the rest of the sentence.
Thats not how the English language works.
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>>180742062
Profaned Capital is a dead-end and a required boss is in there.
You need to go through the sewer in Irithyll to progress in there.
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>>180741323
>Sorry to bring the conversation back to this, but I really don't understand this argument from the Matthewmatosis video. Yes, those sorts of action games might have "deeper" combat in terms of pure player options, but they're also going for something COMPLETELY different form the feels of Souls combat. The appeal of combat in these games is the weight and impact of it, and the feeling of it being relatively grounded in what you can and can't do. Sure your character can roll around in heavy platemail swinging an impossibly huge hammer at a dragon, but you're just juggling foes and doing air combos or doing huge complicated attacks dashing all around. The appeal of Souls combat is in combining this simple yet satisfying set of player options with interesting enemies and environments.

I'll simplify this for you:

"Souls is about making decisions and committing to them, then overcoming the consequences of that decision through a better understanding of the game."

I *think* his argument (I can't be fucked to watch the whole video anyway) is that since demon's souls, players have less commitment and fewer consequences behind their actions, and instead From focused on the feedback and excitement of combat. From went from a highly immersive RPG where every button press had a direct consequence to a mediocre (compared to DmC/Bayo where the "Depth" of combat is the main selling point) hack and slash game where you had few choices that actually mattered and the combat wasn't compelling enough to make up for it.
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Why can't I adapt to DaS3? Holy shit.
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I'm starting a dex run in DS3, what's a unique early game weapon to have fun with?
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>>180742246
I understand the argument with the general design approach of the series, it's the discussion about the combat not being compelling that I take issue with. The combat is one of the main draws of the series for me, and I believe many others, because it does have depth and is satisfying. Comparing it to the combat in games like Bayonetta or DMC is absurd because these combat systems go for extremely different things. Matt makes the argument of "If I wanted to play an action game I could find plenty of better options than the Souls games", but what options are there really? If I want combat that's weighted and grounded in my options and not a super fast paced character action game like Bayonetta then how many games other than Souls clones really provide that?
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>>180742574
you're not rolling enough or you're rolling in only one direction
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>>180742772
Refined Carthus Curved Sword +10 with Carthus Rouge
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>>180742574
Spam roll.
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anyone wanna run through Distant Manor? will be at bonfire

pw is Taaka

PS4, SL74
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Planning to make a twink for Crucifixion Woods/The Cathedral. What's the level and weapon level I should shoot for? 30ish with a +4 weapon, or is that too high?
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So let me get this straight for DS3

>invasion requirements are back to DS1, where soul memory is no longer a thing
>enemies don't despawn after being killed 10+ times
>phantoms can still drink estus, they can also restock estus somehow(how do you do this?)
>estus from the host no longer heals phantoms

am I missing anything important from the guides in the OP? the blueberry covenant is still a thing? is there a spell for faith builds thats like blade of the darkmoon?
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>>180742574
Panic rolling, R1 Straightsword spamming shitter of want
Play metal gear solid, bayonetta or other piss easy pussy games
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>>180742773
Think about it this way:

Souls combat without the stats is extremely boring, monotonous, and restrictive. DS3 is the only game with moderately acceptable variety when using just a single weapon and not considering any customization. DeS/DS1/DS2 play extremely poorly if you aren't swapping and customizing your stats and equipment over the course of the game.

It's the STATS and EQUIPMENT that makes the combat interesting, and as the series has gone on, they are trying to emphasis less on that and ending up with games like DS3, which lack all of the unique progression and immersion techniques of the previous games in exchange for half-baked combat improvements
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>>180742976
You want SL30+3
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>>180742954
Coming my Nigga
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Thematically and mechanically speaking, is this objectively the best boss in the game?
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>>180743069
Just, like, play the game bro
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>>180743069
> the blueberry covenant is still a thing?
Yeah, though blues are the most cucked beings in all creation
> is there a spell for faith builds thats like blade of the darkmoon?
Well, there's Darkmoon Blade.
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>>180742867
>using CCS
>in 2017
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>>180743240
No. Sillyman is a pretty good boss, but there are better ones. C H A M P, Nameless King, Friede, Gael, etc
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What's good about Dark Sword? Has the same AR as Long Sword at 40/40.
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>>180743310
It's still good, just not super OP.

Personally I like the Carthus Curved Greatsword. Vertical Spin Slash is better than Horizontal.
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>>180743213

cool, Im Embered up and by the stairwell near the stairs
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>>180743530
Stomp, and better reach than long sword as far as I know.
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>>180743530
>What's good about Dark Sword?
Patchnotes and living in the past
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The wind up attacks were fine with the DaS1 hollows who would do a slow wind up then follow through with a sluggish attack, I'm sick of this *unsheathes katana* shit in DaS3
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>>180743240
That'd be Gael or LoC. Maybe if Sully had more story buildup BEFORE the fight he'd be somewhat interesting. The fight is okay for being a mid-game boss but it could be better.

>>180743378
Champ is a bad meme.
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>>180743240
Any boss that can be one-shot by a fucking furry, is not a good boss.
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>>180743626
>stomp
>good
>on a SS
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>>180743530
more range, better on a greatshield strength build
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>>180743707
For how many plot threads Sulyvahn ties into it is weird how he just comes up in the middle of the game with very little context to his fight, and even less fanfare
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>>180743240
Yes.That, or Soul of Cinder (who was worse in terms of hype/immersion but better mechanically).

Sully has a creative gimmick that fits perfectly with the souls gameplay and theme. The stronger he gets the more he reveals about himself to the player, creating a situation where you actively learn to beat him over the course of the battle. It is a perfect representation of what makes From games unique from all other games.

There are some bosses that are more fun, some with better buildups, and some with more lore significance. but none so perfectly fitting mechanically as Sully.


>>180743735
>>180743707
>>180743378
Ignore the shitters that say he's too easy or not dramatic enough for that there are more fun bosses. They don't understand the question. As a purely mechanical concept for a boss, Sully is top tier.
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>>180743707
Champ is a great boss, fuck yourself. His moveset and animations just ooze style, and he's got a solid difficulty level to boot.

>>180743745
It's good for versatility.
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>>180743530
>dark sword
Triggered
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>>180743596
My sign is outside of the Bonfire room
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>>180743821
>They don't understand the question.
> As a purely mechanical concept for a boss

>>THEMATICALLY and mechanically speaking, is this objectively the best boss in the game?

hmm
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>>180743069
Yes. Weapon memory (the highest weapon upgrade level you've ever made on that character) is a thing though.
Yes.
Yes. Estus restocks randomly from killing PvE mobs and invaders
Yes.

There's blessed weapon and Lightning Blade spells.
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>>180743213
>>180743213
>>180743213

u still coming? not seeing any signs.. is Distant Manor one of the areas where you cant summon?
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>>180744060
theme isn't the same as hype/lore or enjoyment
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>>180744074
Yes. There is a fog wall over the entry and exit to the building. You can summon again once you get to the ledge.
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>>180743692
>only easy and weak enemy attacks are okay
ok
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>>180744074
No, it's a transition area. You can only summon in Irithyll proper, or Irithyll Dungeon.

What kind of shitter do you have to be, to have trouble with Irithyll Dungeon at SL74 anyway? You're already strong enough to outright beat the final boss of the game.
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>>180744074
Do you want to go to Pontiff or tue Dungeon?
Go down kill the fire with and right before the Dungeon entrance ist my sign
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>>180741323
Nioh would have been better with an open world similar to DaS1. Nioh only feels bland and repetitive because of the mission based setup. I think it actually handles combat way better than DaS2 or 3.
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So I torrented DaS3 and I've never managed to get Alva, Heysel or Kirk to invade me. What the fuck?
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/215056

Rate me?
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>>180744325
Nioh would always be inferior so long as it kept up its Diablo style random loot. Weapons are all functionally identical except for stats, and because every drop is rng based and they have internal weapon levels there's never a reason to explore a level. In Souls games you want to see every nook and cranny because any new weapon, spell, armor, etc. you find will be interesting and unique, maybe even with a bit of cool lore in the description shedding some light in the area or overall plot. But in Nioh you kill things with your lvl 70 Katana and scour the area to find a lvl 72 Katana that does a bit more damage. And even then you're better off rushing through the critical path of each mission to get to later ones since they drop objectively better loot.

Repetition of enemies and sameness of areas were definite turn offs in Nioh, but it was the loot system that killed that game for me
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>>180744446
Because you pirated the game, you fucking shitter.

Is it so hard to afford $24 these days? Jesus fuck.
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>>180744542
Nice Guts cosplay
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>>180744542
125/387
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>>180744647
I live in a country with terrible economy, and I'm a student and I feel bad wasting my parents' money on videogames
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>>180744542
What's there to rate? It's just a standard healslut build.
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>>180744542
I like this, it seems fun
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>>180744635
Nah, Diablo style loot is exactly what BB needed for its chalice dungeons.
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>>180744795
Then spend your time studying instead of playing video games. Your parents would be even more disappointed in you if they knew you were engaging in piracy of software.
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>>180744635
I dunno, I could see Diablo style loot working as long as it isn't just katana +4 vs katana +5.

I don't necessarily think it's a good thing for a Soulsborne game, though. I'd like to see a return to DS2 weapons, where mostly everything can be infused and buffed to create massive flexibility in weapon viability.

Also, weapons need to have more unique movesets, even if that just means switching the R2 for a different weapon R2.
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>>180744903
what a fucking retarded opinion holy shit
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>>180741638
No. I hate drunk people.
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>>180737365
I changed my mind and made this
https://pastebin.com/d8cu1stm
Hope it isn't too shitty.
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hey *****, id rather do Irithyl proper and do Pontiff Knight. Can we do that instead?
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sure am getting a lot of mexican BRs using their third world mobile internet tethering, god damn
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>>180744903
>A Lucifer opinion I actually agree with

Holy shit it's a unicorn

I wish the Chalice Dungeon concept would be re-implemented. It was a fantastic way to extend the PvE lifespan of the game.
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>>180744995
It only works so long as the levels are randomly generated. But the second you have random leveled loot in a premade dungeon or area to explore you throw out any reason to explore.
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>>180745150
Yeah which Bonfire?
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>>180745120
You know, for a first attempt, this wasn't too bad. Leonhard's dialogue fits him perfectly.
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>>180745392

first one? I dont think I can summon at any of the other three
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>>180745185
fun right? swing and they take damage 16 years later.
i've had fucking arena matches lost because they die after killing me like 2 seconds later.
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What happens after the Lord of Hollows ending? How exactly is Ashen One a "Lord" when there is nothing to rule over except brainless zombies. How will he spend his days?
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>>180745640
A hollow need not be mad
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>>180745480
Do you mean Church of Yorshka?
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>>180745802
>>180745802

yep, Im at the Church. Please let me know if I cant summon there
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Good boss concepts:

Asylum Demon
>Having different equipment can drastically improve your combat ability. Learn to pay attention to what you're equipping.

Stray Demon / Champion Gundyr
>Use your prior experience with the boss, this time in an elevated higher stakes scenario

Capra Demon
>Learn to manage the environment and take advantage of the area

Bell Gargoyles / O&S / Twin Princes
>Fighting two enemies at once is different than fighting one, even if they are the same enemy type.(garg)
>Fight two people at once, but instead fight them with drastically different styles. Learn what you know about the first fight to elevate things for the second fight. (O&S)
>Learn to Fight two different enemies simultaneously, rather than one at a time (Princes)

Priscilla
>Don't rely on lock on, reaction time, or sight to do all the work for you. Think ahead and pay attention to the surroundings.

Four Kings
>Sometimes speed is important.

Gwyndolin
>Learn to chase down and attack while dodging.

Skeleton Lords
>Manage multiple targets and type/elemental effects (strike vs fire vs lightning vs thrust)

Executioner's Chariot
>Sometimes the best way to beat a boss is to stop trying to fight head-on and use their main gimmick against them.

Abyss Watchers
>Manage enemy aggro and learn to keep track of a priority target

Pontiff Sulyvahn / Sister Freide
>The stronger the boss gets, the more they reveal about their strategy and weakness. The stronger they become, the stronger can get too. (Sulyvahn)
>Each phase is a tutorial for the previous phase. Fight a boss directly. Fight them as a secondary AoE effect. Fight them directly with AoE.

Soul of Cinder / Old Monk / Spear of the Church
>Your overall knowledge and experience with the weapons and skills available to you as a player can be applied to enemy bosses/invaders. Fight yourself.

Phalanx
>The faster and more damage you do, the weaker the boss becomes as you whittle down their physical size, not just their health.
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>>180745461
I'm glad you liked it, but it isn't my first attempt at smut
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>>180745120
Enjoy the (you)
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>>180743980
Why is his arm black?
How can he see anything with that helm?
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>>180743735
>>180743735
>+10 YGM
>Probably Red Tearstone
>probably hornet ring
>possibly also flynn's ring
>Warcry
>dragon roar
>swapping to morion blade before landing the counter
>at a sliver of health
Being a furfag had so little to do with that that I'm insulted to think you'd think anyone is that stupid.
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>>180746571
He also had Sacred Oath and Deep Protection.
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All I want is some visual clue as to if something will actually hit me, I don't think that's wrong to ask for that.
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>>180746543
How can he fit his head into that helm?
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>>180746571
*+5
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>>180741364
>Plus you can reset Spear of the Church boss to be alive again for a bunch of Souls

You can? How? God damn I always miss some small and insignificant thing that's almost always literally right in front of me practically pushed on my face every time I play, even on NG++++ and on different characters, I still find something new.

Overall, I wished DaSIII had more areas to explore, that would take hours to search them all.
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>>180744795
18+
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>>180746716
Go to the statue of Velka and reinstate the King's Decree
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>>180744446
I think it's a recent thing, I got invaded just fine in the early versions but the invasions stopped after the first DLC.
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>>180735509
Also fun for invasions.
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>>180746792
Oh cool.
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>>180746716
There's a secret monument in the DLC that you access from the secret entrance next to the Ringed City streets bonfire. You can revide Judicator Argo from that.
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>>180745884
Want to go on?
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>>180743240
>objectively
No.
You're asking if something can be objectively something based on a subjective criteria
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>>180746810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCTZM3sb308
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>>180727931
>>180731080
>>180731445
I have a dream to one day create a TES-sized game with the voice acting of a souls game. It wouldn't be easy, but the sheer amount of voicesex would be worth it.
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>>180747039

you betcha! where should we go next?
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>>180735910
almost all chameleon transformations are into something obvious. Some you dont even run into in the level
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>>180747361
>with the voice acting of a souls game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhi7tE-UdPs
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>>180747379
My current build is for the Arena if you wait a few minutes I will respect into a PvE friendly build
Then wenn can proceed post Pontiff if you want
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>>180747912

thats fine, I dont think I have done all of Profaned yet. Hit me up when u are ready
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>>180747587
Not even bothering with the video, but you know there's a difference between voice acting and a script, right?
Souls has a lot of good character voices, even if the dialogue is silly.
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>>180748124
Yeah, more of voice directing then.
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What would be the best way to construct a Spook-style build for 3? I want to be as much of a sneaky bastard in invasions as possible, maybe use the Untrue White Ring+Hidden Body trick.
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>>180746672
>some visual clue
the mage raised his arm
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>>180747587
>I don't understand voice direction or character voice the post
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Questions on sorceries:

1. Is a far sorcery build as good as a regular?

2. What build is better for a dark sorcery character:
>fai/int with izalith staff
Or
>int with murky long staff
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>>180748381
Dark*

Not far
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>>180748696
Yes, enjoy your ban
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>>180748696
Enjoy the ban you shitlord
And yes it's decent on a quality build.
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>>180748696
I THINK YOU POSTED THE WRONG PICTURE ANON

not that I'm complaining.
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>>180748381
I think dark sorcery is more fun.

There are some bosses that it completely destroys.

As for izalith vs. murky.

I would go with Murky with int and keep court sorcerer staff handy for casting regular ass magic.
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>>180748696

shit, wrong pic
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>>180748010
I'm ready
Where do wanna go?
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>Introduce a concept at the very begging of the game as if it will be something big and important
>do nothing with it until the very end of the game but not really just recycle enemies and put them with a progression gate
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>>180748246
Obscuring ring but it's not quite as good as it used to be.
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>>180748847

Profaned?
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>>180748862
wow thanks for reminding me that there was no development on the puss of man
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>>180748246
Obscuring, untrue dark, slumbering, silvercat.
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>>180748862
The Lothric Wyverns say hello.
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>>180749075
That's the progression gate he's talking about.
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>>180748908
>>180749075
What about weapons in general?
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>tfw you accidentally stumble into this

Yeah that's gonna be a no for me dog.

anyway where should I be going after the irythll boss?
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>>180748968
Unlocked the Bonfire there yet or where do we start?
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>>180749287

Im at the Profaned Bonfire
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>>180748696
Nice pic, retard.
Still fapped tho
tasty-looking testicles tee-bee-heitch
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>>180749152
Weakness: head and Weakness: fire
Try bleed
Why the fuck did they remove the "Weakness:..." template?
Also, up
>>180749138
I didn't really get what "put them with a progression gate" meant, but what I meant is that there is implicit lore about them
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>>180748862
Yeah.
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>>180749457
I think he was talking more about mechanics, not lore.

The only time that pus of man becomes a reoccuring mechanic is for the copy/pasted enemies in consumed king's garden and lothric castle.

Dragonslayer Armor and Aldrich both seem like they would have benefited from pus of man mechanics but they did nothing with them.
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>>180749597
these guys had an entire area built around them though

pus of man is literally just ~8 optional enemies scattered throughout a few places, plus the tutorial boss.
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>>180746571
>Taking a joke webm that seriously.
It's time to stop posting.
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Is Yhorm's Great Machete any good?
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>guy pulls out Buckler
>never parries with it
Damn these guys fuck with my mind so bad and I look like a retard expecting a parry too
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>>180748381
Fai/Int with Izalith is for Pyromancer builds, Int with Murky Long Staff is for pure Int builds. They're fundamentally very different, so you have to start your decision making there.

Hexes are fucked in DaS3 anyways, because of how poorly they're spread out and how shitty the Miracle versions are. You can't even get a decent buff out of Dark Blade because for some retarded reason it isn't counted as a Dark Miracle, and the rest are absolute shit (Dead Again and Lifehunt Scythe are trash, and the Gnawing spells are only good for the bleed proc, which doesn't scale). Not to mention that you'd need to spread out your ring loadout way too much even if Dark Miracles weren't terrible (someone using purely Dark Sorceries would just need Young Dragon and Bellowing Dragoncrest, whereas someone wanting to also use Dark Miracles and Dark Pyromancies would have to somehow fit in Sun's First Born and Old Witch's, respectively).

They really should have just made Deep Ring boost Dark spells and not stack with the 15% boost rings (like how Untrue Dark and Untrue White can't both be equipped at once), and introduced an Abyss Ring in TRC that does the same only for the 25% boost rings.
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>not in education or training
>noone is dying so he isn't doing his job either
>just stays in his basement all day and sleeps
>occasionally plays with his rattledolls
>prone to farting and autistic screaming
>hasn't bathed in centuries, you can actually see the stink emanating from him
>his name is an engrishu version of NEET
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>>180750020
Nobody actually knows how to parry. The buckler is just mindgames.
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>>180749971
Yes
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>>180750340
>>180750020
This. Your usual mindset should be "This guy can do exactly what I can do."
If you can R1-spam, so can he. If you can't parry, so can't he.
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>>180750313
What general did you slip from?
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Who /diestohodrickeveryplaythrough/ here?
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>>180750313
But gwyndolyn sounds nothing like neet
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>>180750462
>>180750483
He's talking about Nito of course.
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>>180750467
The game gives you Whip before you encounter him for a reason
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>>180750483
lmao
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>>180750557
Nito offers his soul to death everyday, he still doin the job.
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>>180750467
I never had a problem with hodrick.

Heysel though...
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>>180727672
I'm by the Bonfire again, at Yhorms throne is weapon, Grab it and use the weapon art
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>>180750020
>Guy pulls out buckler
>I'm using a great hammer

One of the funniest things in DaS3 for me
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>>180750826
Noone's dying though, they just hollow
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>>180750383
Guess I need to go kill Yhorm on my SL35 then

Bleh. Dungeon is gonna be annoying. At least I can just get Seigward to kill Yhorm for me.
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whats the item that makes the NPCs attack invaders in dark souls 3?
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>>180751265
Nito is lord of the dead, not the grim reaper

He doesn't seek new dead people, he rules a kingdom of those that already died.
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>>180751862
Giant seed.
Explore the right half of firelink shrine
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>>180750020
>guy pulls out Buckler
>black flame -> black flame
>>
>Open chest
>Six basilisks spawn

Real fucking funny
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>guy pulls out a buckler
>and your OTHER buckler
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>>180751862
>>180752002
Also note that since the nerf, it only lasts for 40 seconds. You will have to engage the invader eventually, or you can have a staredown until one of you disconnects, thereby wasting everyone's time.
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>>180750020
>guy pulls out a buckler
>I do a jumping r1
>he does a WA
God fucking dammit
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>>180752138
THAT MEANS NG+ BICTHES
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>>180752230
>have a Buckler in every possible slot for these exact situations
You are now effectively invincible
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Saw something a bit special yesterday. I was running around Carthus as a phantom, trying to find the newfag host who'd run off somewhere. I was running past Anri just as she disappeared and transformed into a prism stone. Kinda cool.
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>>180749390
Do you want to make Post Pontiff too?
>>
BETELGEUSEEEEEE
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>>180752195
Traps and mimics feel sort of unfair for the first people to find them, while later players will benefit from messages and bloodstains left by earlier victims.

The best ones were in Eleum Loyce, where you could see the mimics frozen in ice and could remember where they were when thawed.
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>>180752383
Anri's questline is that she's lost and dropping prism stones to help find horace. After you talk to her (or if you advance far enough past the skeleton ball) she moves locations to later in the level and leaves a prism stone where she was.
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>>180752561
I know.
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>>180751576
If you're on PS4, I can give one to you.
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>>180752546
Chain.
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the iframe abuse in dark souls 3 is starting to trigger me a bit

the fights just look so fucking stupid
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>>180752769
Same, fucking backstab-snapons-laggons and Iframes look so fucking stupid
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>>180752769
That's been in every game since at least DaS, rolling through attacks that are clearly making contact with your character model without having any effect.
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Who else here likes to get invaded or use dried finger in gank city? Shit gets really fun, and can be intense when a fuck ton of them are after you.
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>>180752412

nah m8, think Im gonna grind for a Pontiff Curved Sword. Thanks for accompanying me though
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>>180752946
yeah but it's never been as bad as this i don't think
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>>180753136
It's because in DS3 the vulnerability between your iframes is extremely low.
>>180752946
*DeS
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>>180752769
>guy isnt moving in any direction rolling against me
>doesnt take damage because IFWAMES
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>Invisible jailers

Real FUCKING funny
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>>180751576
>At least I can just get Seigward to kill Yhorm for me.

Yeah, about that.

More often than not, Yhorm kills Siegward.

Just get the sword and kill him yourself.
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>>180752769
Rolling should take twice as much stamina. iframes are fine, but you should need to commit more resources to getting them.
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Sweet Jesus newfags everywhere.
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>>180753351
I mean, I was going to help.

Can't I just lob kukris at him to keep his attention while Seigward plays dps?
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Can I get some valorheart tips? What weapon should I pair it with? I'm thinking partizan. Build is a standard 39/40/40/40 with fap, life, chlo and leo, is that right?
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>>180753376
Sate your bloodlust upon salefags, anon

It's the only proper thing to do
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>>180753298
That open spot wall before going left , you could have checked before going, to see the Jailers.
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>Pontiff Knights with shields

how do I cheese these faggots?
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>>180753256
It's been a long time since I played DeS so I didn't want to make claims I didn't have a clear memory of.

I played all of DeS thinking I had to physically avoid every attack. Needless to say it made the game very difficult.
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>>180753579
Hit them really really hard.
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>>180753564
Oh hell, that's where that was?

Sheeeit
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>>180752546
I played DS3 offline and was never fooled by a Mimic.They paced the mimics real shittily too like the first chest you are likely to come across is a mimic, then you have one area that has 7 Mimics.

>>180752195
The basilisks aren't even scary in DS3 because you don't lose any more max health on dying to them than if you would when you just died regularly.
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>>180753583
DeS was the first time From added iframes to the quick dodges in their games. Coming from AC where you don't have iframes during quickboost, I did the same thing.
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>>180753579

There's nothing a good r1 spamming can't solve.
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>>180753579
Just smack them. They're much, much less aggressive than the shieldless ones.
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>>180753509
Oh I have been.
I meant in here.
I'm pretty casual on dsg, but now I feel like an old sea dog.
Gives me conniptions.
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>>180727940
fucking amazing, underrated post
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Which Scythe is best?

>Great
>Corvian
>Pontiff Knight
>Friedes
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>>180753579
They are super passive compared to CS ones, just walk up to them and kick them for a nice critical.
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>>180753969
Corvian is the best regular Scythe due to its longer range and works best on a pure Dex or Dark build. Friede's is different because you rely mainly on the WAR1 as an offensive hyperarmor tool with it and is intended for 40/40 DEX/INT builds. They both have different niches but are your ideal options. Great Scythe is just a worse Corvian in every way and Pontiff Knight Scythe is outdone by Corvian now even on a pure Dex build with the Frost buildup still not being that great.
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>>180741638
>>180748381
>>180748696
>>180748798
>>180748837
>>180750462
>>180753579
>>180753969
Stop with your retarded fucking questions and retarded fucking posts.
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>>180753969
Corvian.

Friede's Scythe is kinda cool but at the end of the day the second you try to do anything interesting with it you get unzipped caestus because the WA is just SO easy to parry.
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>>180754252
>caestus

Is this still top tier for parrying?
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>>180754348

It has more recovery time now.
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>>180754348
Yes.
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Anyone have a spare Morion Blade? Screwed up the Yuria questline and now I can't get it. Highwall bonfire, pass: dsg.
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>>180754503
Yep just let me fire up DS3 on the Commodore 64.
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>>180754503
>doesn't state platform
???
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>>180754503
forgot to say pc
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>>180754503
starting my ps3
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>>180754503
FIRING UP MY CATHODE RAY TUBE
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>>180754797
Fuck off
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>>180754797

We Cutepost here.
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>>180754797
Go to /pol/ you pedophile
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>>180754229

no u

Im doing DEX/INT. Just got a Pontiff Curved Sword. What should I infuse it with?
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hey /dsg/

I need your help. I'm trying to get all the achievements and I need only one last: get all the rings. Currently I have 100/115 rings, basically all the rings one can get in NG and NG+. I also already own all the chloranthy rings.

Here are the remaining ones :

>Havels Ring +2
>Covetous Gold Serpent Ring +2
>Wood Grain Ring +2
>Ring of Steel Protection +2
>Ring of Favor +2
>Wolf Ring +2
>Sage Ring +2
>Dark Stoneplate Ring +2
>Ring of the Evil Eye +2
>Lingering Dragoncrest Ring +2
>Thunder Stoneplate Ring +2
>Magic Stoneplate Ring +2
>Flame Stoneplate Ring +2
>Covetous Silver Serpent Ring +2
>Life Ring +3

Is there anybody willing to lend me those rings so I can finally get that achievement ? Ofc I will give the rings back as soon as I get it and you will gain my eternal respect. Let's fucking duel after that if you're up to it haha. I play on PC in EU and I really really really like this achievement!
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>>180752195
>didn't listen to them croaking 10 meters before the chests
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>>180755072
You're cute, but that's fucking retarded man
>>
Pus of Man are the worst enemies in the game.
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>>180755206
>fucking retarded
why tho?
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>>180755231
Just use fire.
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>>180755231
Just throw a firebomb and stun them for 5+ seconds
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>>180754867
Make me
>>180754902
Cuteposting can be pornposting as well as shitposting
this answers nothing!
>>180754965
I only want to post futa cock
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>>180755272
Cheevo hunting is for fags
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>>180755231
best way i've found to deal with it is to hit it with fire (torch in offhand works) then hit it a few times, when its back in aggro mode you want to roll into its hand so you get behind it as it doesn't have the best tracking
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>cant infuse Pontiff Curved Sword

for what purpose?
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>>180755358
aren't you all fag in this general? :^)
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>>180755295
>>180755303
>>180755398
Im mostly just talking about the ones in the garden take take 10+ firebombs to kill. Would use resin but this is a faith character with a lightning weapon.
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how can I get the ds4 buttons promts in ds3?
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>>180755472
No, just a couple of loud faggots that would have newfags believe otherwise.
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>>180755231
The main thing that annoys me the most about Pus of Man is that they have those annoying sound effects that are twice as loud as all the other noises in the game
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>>180755478
No, chuck a firebomb and then run up and butcher them. They get stunned for long enough that you can easily kill them.
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>>180755464
No fun allowed. Gone are the days of weapon flexibility.
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>>180755616

That's just DaS3. My ears will be ringing for the rest of the day if I play DaS3.
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>>180755478
just use a fire gem on a longsword

chuck firebomb so they don't attack you on approach, R1 spam away
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>>180755072
>terrible slutwear
>not using Collector's Edition
>not knowing how duping works
>wanting a duel
If you want the achievement, earn it yourself. That's the whole fucking point.
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Does anyone on PS4 have a spare TPGS or LHS? I have an extra Yhorm's Machete and Great Club if you want one.
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>>180755758
I had to turn sound effects way down just to play
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>>180755072
>PC
>doesn't have collectors edition
>haha xd
>wants achievements
>won't work for them

kys my dude
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>Disconnecting as soon as you get invaded

Why even play online?
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Is there a "upgrade cost no materials" for Scholar?

There's a lot of weapons i want to try out but i dont have the mats for them.
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>>180756157
>invade a guy
>signals me to follow him
>waves at me
>runs off the cliff
i just don't get it
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>>180756157
Co-op with friends.

Prioritizing invasions for co-op phantoms was a huge mistake. It removes the main draw of invasions, forces invasions on those that want to co-op and avoid challenges, and encourages gank squads.
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>>180756242
It's called scaling. Upgrades offer more damage than scaling, but scaling applies to all weapons.

You only get 30 regular titanite in early game until you beat the old iron king, then you can buy infinite regular and large shards.

You will eventually be able to buy and farm infinite chunks, but not until late game.

If you're already near the end of the game, just farm materials using a bonfire ascetic at dragon aerie.
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So let me get this straight, and pardon me if im a bit incoherrent, for I have been drinking the whiskey a bit:

A weapon that is quick-hitting and uses low Stamina per Second like the Pontiff Knight Curved Sword, will definitely not do as much damage per swing like a Great Sword or hammer, correct? When I go to Status it says my +8 Dark Splitleaf Great Sword does 435, while a +4 Pontiff Curved Sword does 234 dmg. Sorry if this is a dumb question. Im doing DEX/INT btw. Im just still trying to find the ideal weapon. I prefer fast weapons like the Rakuyo, while still using a bit of magic. Thanks for any help
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>>180755934
>>180756068
you must be so fun and cool at parties
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>>180756509
just play through NG++ that is what I did to get the achievements its easy as fuck and you will have them in no time
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>>180756273
Hosts can be strange creatures

I don't think I'll ever understand them.
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>>180756242
Just equip a farming ring and loot imperfects for easy bones.
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>>180756302
But you disconnect your phantoms, it's just a waste of time.
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>>180756696
>>180756273
Host saw you invaded him, assumed you were just after the invasion rewards (covenant item), wanted to shit around with you and give you what you want
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I started DS on Friday having never played any of them. Started out shit but I've gotten significantly better in the 14 hours since. Below is a quick summary of what I've been doing, can anyone give me quickfire hints on "that's good" or "that's bad"?

- Cleric with the 5 usage heal
- Points mainly in VIT, STR, END
- Kept the starting Mace and upgraded to +5
- Full Elite Knight set w/ shield, some ring that increases equip capacity to make it possible, another ring that heals small amounts per kill
- Been playing hollow but a friend just told me to keep humanity at 10 for defense and droprate

Just finished ringing the 2nd bell, Blighttown wasn't NEARLY as bad as I heard it was going to be, Spider Shield helped. Worst trouble so far was the gargoyles but I was still learning a lot then. 0-2 deaths on all other bosses.

Having a blast, I think I can see why this series is popular now.
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Need someone to help me trade man-grub staff between characters on ps4. Anyone?
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>>180756482
AR rating is damage per attack, before defenses.

So 1 slow attack with twice the AR will do more than 2 light attacks with half the AR.

For calculating damage or knowing how scaling works, see attached.

Freide's great scythe seems like your kind of weapon
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>>180756631
I'm so tired of beating that game. I beat it at least 7 times already but never more than twice / chars. I know it's going to be easy af it has just become so boring.
>inb4 multiple chars in daS3
played with my bro on ps4 aswell and completed a few NG there
>>
>>180755354
>>180754797
>How is the pornposting and shitposting here?
Shitposting is ever-present but discouraged.
Pornposting is straight up not allowed and almost non-existent.
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>>180753706
>2hands weapon
heh
>>
>>180756908
Build is an okay place. But I suggest you find an ember that increases the weapon scale to +10 or find a new blacksmith after passing Andre and heading to the fortress who's gates just opened. Also don't ever level up resistance
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>>180756157
>invade a Gattsu cosplay
>dick around with him, outrade him even though he has a UGS
>burn through all of his Estus while using mobs as cover, he doesn't even put on Way of Blue to sic the cops on me
>finally land the finishing blow on him
>connection error
If you didn't want to lose, why didn't you exercise one of the numerous other options at your disposal?
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>>180756864
Oh

Well, that's kind of sad
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>>180756908
that's pretty ideal, especially on a first playthrough

remember that stats stop scaling at around 40, also your effective strength when 2handing is STR * 1.5, so if you have 27 then you effectively have 40 strength when two handing your weapon, making 27 STR a good stopping point

you might want to upgrade your weapon more though
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>>180755354
>futa
>>
>SL 60
>go to help Sirrus kill Hodrick
>find the summon sign, spam X
>it summons some random guy
>I forgot to kill cursed greatwood

I... What are you doing here at this level?
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>>180756908
You're doing fine.

Putting points into faith will make your healing miracle more effective and lets you equip even better versions along with spells like throwing lightning spears, but you don't need to worry about that.

Right after the capra demon (by the first butcher) there is an ember that will let you get your weapons to +10 upgrade when you give it to the blacksmith. Otherwise, you're doing a fairly bog-standard starting run and looks like you're paying attention to what you're doing.

I do recommend you try out other weapons than just the mace, simply because some enemies may benefit more from a heavier, larger weapon with more range and higher single hit damage (you won't always get to hit twice before rolling away) or some weapons might benefit from a fast, rapid attack weapon that gives you more time to roll.
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>>180754902
is that who I think it is
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>>180756908
the miracle is alright, I guess. not a fan of majyyk personally
That's aight
starter gear is best gear, shitters will disagree
though I recommend finding something you like and going with that. Have fun if it's your first time
as long as you can fastroll, armor is irrelevant save for Havel's
You can stay hollow and have as much 'soft' humanity as you like (soft is the # by your HP, hard humanity is the usable item)
30 humanity maxes out the defense bonus, 10 maxes out the droprate bonus (there's another two items that boost the droprate, but humanity's bonus is capped at 10
Oh, and if you have Power Within, you can get a bonus 40% damage for memes
Resistance stat is a meme, so leave that.
>>
>try the demon prince enough times that demon in pain and demon from below
>are etched deep into my muscle memory and I can easily beat them every time only needing 1-2 estus
>either die at the very beginning of the demon prince or when he has 30-50% health left
>sometimes get him to 10% but always slip up and die to that laser beam that isn't even hard to dodge
>just say fuck it and use a player summon and beat him with my only ember.

It really killed the feel of accomplishment but fuck it I just wanted to move on. The only other boss I used a summon for was Friede.
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>>180756986

Friedes is ok, but the Weapon Art seems extremely repetitive. Hoping I can make the Pontiff Curved Sword work. Im open to any other DEX/INT recs
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>>180756302
The matchmaking system is retarded, yes.

On the other hand, most reds are much better players now.
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>>180757254
But, anon, futa cock is delicious
>>180757061
I'll make pornposting great again
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>Host and phantom keep trying to flank you
>Slap phantom
>Unlock target and spin 180 to slap host as well

Every fucking time

Hosts are so thirsty for those backstabs, it's ridiculous
>>
>>180757567
I want /b/ and /d/ subhumans to leave.
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>>180757424
Remember, you can use any normal upgrade dexterity weapon and use crystal magic weapon as a buff. You can also infuse the weapon with another damage type.

Crystal Sage Rapier and Aquamarine Dagger are both solid choices also.

Compared to bloodborne, souls is more about swapping weapons and using different techniques than sticking with one single weapon that has a variety of moves.
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>>180757241

I've never really been using the mace as a 2H. Is it a better idea to do so, whack something once and then get out, rather than say, 2-3 1H heavy hits?

>>180757268

Would you say there's an ideal Faith level if I just want to stick to using heal? Not really bothered about offensive magic.

>>180757328
Starter gear as in the elite knight set I'm wearing? Seems the best option for me right now though I'm considering swapping out the legs for the crimson robe legs? No poise, don't know how badly that would affect me

Big question for everyone, do I NEED to use a ranged weapon properly at any point? I've only used it a few times for pulling single mobs in Blighty
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>>180757735

Yeah, I know I can infuse stuff. Im pretty bummed I cant infuse the Pontiff Curved Sword. I may just drop it for the Cartus Curved Sword and infuse that. I dont see much of a point to the Pontiff WA.
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>>180757858
>Big question for everyone, do I NEED to use a ranged weapon properly at any point?
No.
>>
>>180757567
stick to dying
>>
So is perseverance on great hammers completely useless? It's so slow people just roll away if you use it close range, and if you try to go in after using it they'll know not to trade with you. Is there any viable way to use it?
>>
>>180758016
Force people to trade with you
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>>180757858
Starter gear as in the mace you're using. Elite knight set isn't starter, you find it in Dark Root IIRC
Also you don't need ranged weapons, no.
There is that one guy... nah. You're alright.
>>
>>180756908
>Blighttown wasn't NEARLY as bad as I heard it was going to be
There's part of the problem, a lot of people went through the game blind, you're doing it with at least some form of foreknowledge. Nothing completely wrong with that, but it does take away from the experience of finding things out for yourself, which is one of the main reasons for playing the game.

>>180756926
Dude, thing is fucking easy to farm, you'll probably get anywhere from 3-5 per invasion if you're lucky enough to get a bluecop.
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>>180758358
That relies on him being good, anon
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>>180757858

All weapons benefit from two handing in DaS. You'll be doing more damage and you'll interrupt the enemies' attacks more often. Of course, the downside is that you can't block with your shield or parry, it's a risk-reward thing. Your faith stat has a soft cap at 50 for offensive spells, there are some support spells later on that require a lot of faith too. For basic heals there's a talisman called "Thorolund Talisman" that is pretty good even with low faith. You don't need ranged attacks at any point, but they make the game easier as you can pull enemies with them. There are ranged weapons that don't require any stat investment like crossbows and throwing knives.
>>
>>180757858
Having some form of ranged attack helps a lot.
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>tfw no Dark Souls on PSN
>>
So 45+4 is objectively the best level for invasions, right? You get to invade across four, maybe five zones, there's not much metafagging, and at this point in the game hosts have enough trouble with environment that playing dirty against 2v1s is a viable strategy.
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>>180757858
Bows are only really good for drawing aggro, they're otherwise fairly mediocre. Crossbows are shit since they can't be aimed (not even the Sniper Crossbow), and the one or two greatbows in the game are inefficient as fuck at what they do. They get better later on, but the only real use for bows beyond drawing aggro is cheesing one of the DLC bosses from outside his arena.
>>
>>180758358
But I already have one that I don't use on another account.
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>>180758639
SL 200 password phantoms
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What the FUCK is his problem?

The kid is over here hugging and kissin', 2 minutes later, he's acting like a fucking jerk.
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>>180758639
65+6
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>>180757980
>>180758125
>>180758469
>>180758491
>>180758646

Okay, thanks all. Playing now. Praise the sun and all that.
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>>180758759
Password phantoms have like 500 health, they die in one combo.
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>>180757858
>Would you say there's an ideal Faith level if I just want to stick to using heal?

Stick to 14 faith with the thorolund talisman (which gives you a flat effect, instead of based on your faith) for Heal and Great Heal Exerpt. This is where you should stop unless you want faith as part of your focus.

If you want more than that, go to 24. This gives you Great Heal and Great Magic Barrier. GMB will reduce the magic damage you take by a huge amount, really helping with some bosses. You can use lightning spears and the homeward miracle here as well.

After 24, 30 is the next best place to stop because then you get Sunlight Blade, which is a HUGE damage boost to your weapons. This is where you stop using thorolund talisman and use the canvas talisman instead. You also get wrath of the gods.

So these are good places to stop:
>27/14 str/dex/fth
>27/24
>27/30
>40/30
>40/40

That will offer you the highest damage for the lowest investment as you go up in levels, since 27 is a softcap for strength and 30 is required for sunlight blade.
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>>180758560
Dirty Sony Japs have no downward compatabilty and said no to Cross-Play for multi platform games
>tfw you will never play Souls Games with a 5x bigger playerbase
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>>180758830
>he
Post pictures of your slut's face.
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>red hilted halberd
This thing is godly, it's absolutely great.
Its perseverance, its range, the pokes, the bait r2, it's all there.
Recommend me some other masterpiece weapons like this.
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>>180758830
>not cucking him with his best friend, then driving a stake through his head in matrimony
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>>180759040
Spiked Mace
Carthus Curved Greatsword
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>>180759040
The halberds in DaS3 always felt off for me. I just want a weapon that I can use for long-range pokes and for long-range sweet-spotting, why does the 2HR2 on halberds make you do the retarded-ass spin that eats up your entire stamina bar?

Just give me a halberd with the Partizan moveset, fuck.
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>>180755967
I really don't want to run through the game again just to get this weapon.
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>>180759108
>do you even woman
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>>180759026
Hard to make qts in ds3
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>>180759207
I think I do, let me backup my savefile first. Go to highwall, pass is gaysword
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Can somebody drop me the Ivory king's armor and the loyce greatsword?

PC: 4m SM (You choose the god and place)

Does anyone even have this game installed anymore?
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>>180759447
Would hug and marry if she doesn't bite my head off.
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>>180759447
why does this give me a boner tho?
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>>180759316
I'm fapping to this
>>180759447
I've fapped to this.
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>salebabby runs away for 5 minutes until he eventually pulls the plug
Getting sick of this shit.
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what are the poise brake points you want to go for?
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>>180759191
>Just give me a halberd with the Partizan moveset, fuck.

that's called a partizan
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>>180759690
>asking the real questions
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>>180759428
Nice. I'm embered because I just beat a host.
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>>180759808
put a red sign down
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>>180759680
my world my rules :^)))
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>>180759690
>>180759784
I just went with 50ish poise just to be sure.
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So the idea is a "Dark Fire keeper", using the black pyromancies and shit. But what I'm really asking for is fashionsouls help. Trying to look the part but fuck me if that's not just "Dress in firekeeper set, use dark hand, ????, SHITCOSPLAY!!!!"
But on a scale from 1 to terrible how is this? Warmth is to keep i the idea that a fire-keeper tends to fires. Parting flame is so that I can get estus back while helping people through areas.
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>>180759870
Well I just realized that I somehow forgot to kill the grub that drops it. Want me to try and run through the Cathedral for it?
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how do I get summoned as Looking Glass Knight's cockslut?
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>>180760116
I'll put my own.
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>>180759576
I have it installed, but fuck farming 50 Loyce Souls.
Also fuck Reindeer
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Doing a little testing here. Using a resin adds a certain amount to your AR. At 60 faith, dark/lightning blade adds another 100 to that. Is that it? Is it worth the huge investment into faith for that alone (especially if you use few other miracles) or are you better off going heavier into strength/dex for raw damage? I know that I am ignoring enemies that are weak to lightning or dark.
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>>180760237
>but fuck farming 50 Loyce Souls

I was hoping a mule would have it since farming 50 is ridiculous.
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>>180760152
Oh my god you do not have the weapon level for this?
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>>180760120
Drop a red sign near the boss area and pray.
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>>180759576
I've got 50 loyce souls you can have for free of you promise to pay it forward to another anon some day. I won't be home for 2 hours tho, I'll post in the next thread
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>>180759576
Scholar?
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>it's another "host summons several red phantoms but it's not actually a fightclub and the host dies to the first one while the other reds awkwardly sit back and watch" episode
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>>180760625
I always help on ds3, just no one plays ds2 anymore
>>180760635
Yeah, i forgot to mention it was scholar
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>Well he swung that giant axe twice, better run in and hug him!
>OH NO
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>>180760120
Keep slapping down your red sign in the area before him, every 10 or so seconds.
Your basically using your red summon sign as a CREO, if you don't get an summon almost instantly then you need to reuse it
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>>180760449
Thank you, friend. Sorry for not saying my upgrade level. I'm just used to giving upgraded weapons.
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>>180760810
Aight, cardinal tower Nehma
50 souls since this is NG+ and I can't actually buy the armor yet
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Why tho
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>>180760856
>CREO
excuse my autism, but what's CREO?
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We've been around a very long time.

Let's you and I dance, one last time.
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>>180760120
You need to be at an SM that catches people on NG+ because the LGK only summons humans against you on NG+.
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What the hell is the machete WA R2 good for? I'd rather have a regular R2.
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>>180761218
Did you find the eyes?

You need the eyes to let the darkness settle.
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>>180761214
Cracked Red Eye Orb
LKG seems to only summon from fresh signs, all of my summons have been under 10 seconds after putting down a sing, so you need to stay in the area and constantly spam it.

Also>>180761293 Is an idiot and full of shit, thats vanilla and nobody plays that, scholar lets you invade in NG, 1-2mil seems to be the best range
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>>180760357
>>180760357

Anyone wanna set me straight here?
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>>180755758
>>180755616

Bloodborne is a great game but the amount of REEEEEEEEEEing enemies is incredible and it's annoying as heck so I play with the volume all the way down.
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>>180761186
I'm here, my sign is down.

My boss is dead though, so maybe use your red sign.

I have no clue if the name engraved ring works for red summons
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>mad spirit found something and returned to his world

what did he find?

he killed the phantom i summoned
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>>180761479
Sorry, all I have is vanilla so naturally my info is from that game.
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>>180761674
I'll put mine down next where hag used to sit, small sign.
Make sure you disabled the effigy effect you automatically get for beating both bosses, also enable cross region matchmaking.
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>>180761695
He found a new member of his family.
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>>180761695
He found a piece of the phantom's spine
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>>180759774
Give me one that lets you sweet-spot for a bunch of damage.
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>>180761695
Mad spirits just want to kill something, doesn't matter what
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Gael keeps fucking dying right when we get to Friede's third phase.
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>>180761674
Ayylmoa sorry forgot them in my item box brb
Also phantoms cant drop soul items, forgot about that, put down a small sign in the same place ill summon you instead
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>>180761838
Were you "Hero"?

Nothing actually dropped if you did drop something.
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>DarkEATER Midir doesn't have a move where he charges at you with his jaw open and chomps you, throws you into the air, catches you in his mouth and swallows you, instantly killing you then does a fierce roar
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>>180761695
Grapists only have to reach a certain kill count in order to win. They don't necessarily have to kill the host.
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>>180762128
vorefag pls go
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>sees immolation tinder sorcery build on yt
>seems fun
>gets pointed down at in arena
>steam notification, invited to 'scrubs'
>mfw

i bet the players that are salty about wasting there time against shit-tier builds are the same players that get mad when they lose to dark LKS shield turtle tryhards
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>>180761895
you're not sweet spotting

there's a damage penalty if you hit with the shaft
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>>180762336
Immolation Tinder is cool

I take point downs as a compliment. Gotta earn 'em.
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>>180762126
Completely forgot that you can't drop soul items in this, ohwell got it in the end.
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Is there a greatsword in Dark Souls 3 with the same moveset as the Mirrah Greatsword/Defender Greatsword from Dark souls 2? I loved that fucking lunge/spin attack
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>>180762128

It's not perfect, but
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>>180762087
Thank you!!!

You're my hero
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Fuck you from Stop putting fake platforms in the game fucking artificial difficulty
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>>180762565
Hollowslayer innit?

Dunno though.
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>>180762705
Yeah that'd be the Mirrah Greatsword but unfortunately it doesn't have the old moveset

Unless I'm a fucking retard and missed something
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>Killed the second drakekeeper with the hammer without getting hit
I am throbbing
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Lotta people pulling the plug as soon as I invade today

Is this the power of saleshitters?
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>>180762578
Wait is that a real move? I've never had that happen before.
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>>180761846
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Can I get a good spear build? Not sure to go refined or pure dex/str. Also not sure how much vit or end is needed.
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>>180762925

It's not even a rare move, but it's just easy to avoid.
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>>180762035
So I summoned a real person to help and he died during the second phase. What the fuck.
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>>180763184
git

gud
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>>180763130
>>180762578
These made me erect
am I a vorefag now?
am I a vorefag because I want ancient dragon to eat me now?
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>>180763591
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>>180763184
>he died
get better aggro management
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>>180753505
Guys please
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>>180763664
The fuck enemy is that? One of the rare ones only found in chalices?
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>>180764086

Yes.
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Dark Souls 3 is shit and you suck benis if you enjoy it.
Discuss.
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>>180764269
I've never played BB but why does that look like it does no damage?
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>>180764413

There's a bug with double grab attacks that makes it do no damage.
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>>180764413
It grabbed two of them but only damaged one. Glitch
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>>180764692
You can see it damages neither. I've seen it happen with the Ornstein grab
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What happens when I run out of resurrections with Rosario? How do I respec then?
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>>180764837
start the next NG cycle
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what's the most autistic ds3 covenant to be in?
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>>180764891
you are telling me that I can only respec 4 times? christ
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>>180764950
the one you belong to
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>>180764837

>not using the reddit glitch
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>>180764837
you play a better game like 2
infinite respecs creates infinite longevity

forcing you to play through the garbage pve over and over like in 3 is why it's already dead
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>>180764982
yeah its fucked
on PC or PS4 you can save your character before you use the respecs
on xbone you are fucked
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>>180765004
False. Infinite respecs reduces replay value.
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>>180764950
White soapstoning sunbros
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how to play dark souls 3 as sorcerer? I never played with sorceries before.
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>>180765109
kill yourself faggot redditor
nobody fucking enjoys playing through the pve over and over again. it is THE WORST part of dark souls 3

why am i even replying to you, you don't even play the fucking games
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>>180765109
nah you're wrong m8, I wouldn't be playing DaS3 now if I had to remake a character for a different build
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>>180765327
Nah. The only time you should get another free respec is whenever a new patch is released.
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>>180757587
Yup, I just pulled this off to kill a host who had two phantoms as a spear of the church yesterday
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>>180765508
Permanent allocated stats is really not a good thing, why do you enjoy it?
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>>180765284
>Worst PvE
>Not Dark Souls 2
Yeah ok
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>>180765683
I like it because it makes choices matter, increases replay value, and lowers the amount of shitters hopping to the newest flavor of the month gear.
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>Four blue tongues in one invasion
>Host played an actually fun game of cat and mouse, using great terrain knowledge and an obscuring ring to avoid me as I attempted to hunt him down through the Demon Ruins and Smouldering Lake, never trying to run back to a bonfire or summon a phantom squad
>Kill the final blue, wave to the host, then black crystal out despite the host now being out of estus and on a sliver of health

Probably the best invasion I've ever played desu
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>>180765683
For the same reason you keep responding to him: autism
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>>180765683
Blood borne shitters just want to limit everyone.
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>>180764950
Darkmoon Blades

You're either farming silver knights for all eternity or getting dumpstered by reds who then proceed to clap on you
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>>180765529
It's amazing how well it works

It's like some people genuinely don't understand that you could be playing without being locked on
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>>180766058
What's even the point of getting 30 ears and unlocking DMB? Lightning Blade does the exact same thing.
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>>180766275
Autism. Darkmoon Blade will do like 20-30 more damage because most builds have lower magic resistance.
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>>180765906
>I like it because it makes choices matter,
It's not like you can allocate stats in the middle of a duel so this doesn't really apply.
>increases replay value
This is a chore there's no 'value' here
>and lowers the amount of shitters hopping to the newest flavor of the month gear.
Yes because people being forced to stick to their hornet great club build because that's what they've built into is a good thing, right?
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>>180766275
People with a lot of Endurance (read: literally every melee build) have pretty good flat defense against Lightning damage.

The only way to protect against Magical damage is by leveling Int, which only Sorcerers and Pyros would do.
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>>180766320
I don't care if you share the same opinion or not. You asked for my opinion, and I gave it.
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>>180765903
learn to read you eceleb loving DaS3 apologist
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>>180766457
Bye
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The solution to the respec problem is to only allow it in ng+ cycles
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>>180766058
>not getting your Ears at low SL, before even entering Carthus
The 15 level downsearch means that you just have to be competent at PvP and have a heal spell or two, and most invaders can't do anything.

This shit only took me 3 and a half days of on and off playing, even with a 50% success rate it's far less infuriating than Silver K***ht farming.
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>>180766681
It's the whole 'competent at PvP' bit that most Blues don't really get
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is dusk debug anon here? does he have anything like tumblr, steam or whatever? i wanted to talk with him, and im looking for the first person mod of ds1 too
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>>180766593
DaS2 already had the solution to the problem. make them farmable for people that want them

removing ascetics and soul vessels in 3 is objectively bad game design
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Can I get a good spear build? Not sure to go refined or pure dex/str. Also not sure how much vit or end is needed
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>>180766903
Yeah, it's.. Not great. I honestly feel sorry for them sometimes. The way they play on tilt and just mash R1 is a little sad.
>>
fuck you guys
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>>180765683
He's an autist and you're an idiot for responding to him.
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>>180766593
how is it a problem, being able to respec is good, the roasaria reddit glitch should be permanent
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>>180767125
Sometimes it works against them no matter how good they may or may not be. If the host you were summoned to protect decided to run headfirst into the crabs after aggro-ing the cross hollows, I'd play on tilt too.

The problem with playing as a blue is that you don't really have many options but to go balls-to-the-wall R1 mashing against the red/purple. Mobs are always going to aggro on you instead of them, so Obscuring Ring and Slumbering Dragoncrest are worthless. You're also often in a race against the clock to try to kill the red before your host somehow dies to something in the world, so the most reliable way to get your Ear is to rush the invader and hope that he fucks up enough for you and the other blue to stunlock him into a corner.

There are ways to play smart as a blue, but the options for doing so are scarce and depend on the specific environment, which you can't choose.
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>>180767757
I guess blues are just perma-cucked then.

Can't imagine why somebody would put themselves through that, especially since most invaders prioritise shitting on blues.
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>>180767658
I would not be against the Reddit glitch becoming permanent if you give Rosaria's soul back to her. It would give people an option that isn't just crunching the soul for a Miracle that you might not even use.
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>>180767658
Without available respec in ng, the first playthrough with a character has extra weight to it. Just like other decisions you make with quests and such, you can't go back on the levels you put in.
Then in ng+ you get to do quests and boss orders differently, so why not allow respec then instead.
And yeah we should get infinite respecs, having to go into the next ng becomes a major chore.
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>>180767972
>make a shitty build
>stuck with it for the rest of the harderst playthrough, forced to either start again or power through a self imposed handicap.

Nah it stupid, not being able to respec just fucks over new players and people who don't want to bother reading a wiki before playing the game for no reason, it's not a good weight, its 2 frame startup animations on bosses.
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>2 goddamned playthroughs until i realized just how much absorption i lose with carthus bloodring

the game didnt need to be this hard.
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>>180768550
Bloodring is a crutch. Git gud.
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>>180767972
why are we discussing this game like it's an RPG? the "choices" you make are strictly superficial and do literally nothing besides the few questlines. but in regards to stats and your character build you're affecting nothing in the game by respeccing

if i were playing a mage build and got halfway through the game before deciding i really hated it, i wouldn't want to restart the entire game again to try something new. given the limited respecs is more of an endgame problem, but it's still tedious and counter-intuitive either way
>>
What do you do when you find an AFK host?
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Can I get a good spear build? Not sure to go refined or pure dex/str. Also not sure how much vit or end is needed

Help a brother out
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>>180768550
>needing bloodring for pve
Also, the absortion penalty was greatly increased some patches ago
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>>180768414
>game becomes harder if you make stupid decisions
>bad
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>>180767902
Some people actually enjoy stopping the fun. Others want the Ears for the achievement. Others treat it as just another form of PvP.

I've had numerous times where I shit on reds who think my Lightning-infused UGS can't outtrade their dinky little twinking axe, or when I just lead the host away and ignore the red, pissing him off and making him come at me on tilt, or when I heal the host while escorting him through the level like a Sunbro and deny the invader any sort of opportunity to pounce.

Whereas some reds invade just to make the host wish they never installed the game, some blues join the queue just to shut down reds and make them wish they never invaded that particular host.
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>>180765903
>being retarded
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>>180763112
>>180767085
>>180768692
Shut the fuck up, you obnoxious nigger.

Kill yourself
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>Red wearing an untrue white ring
>Casts chameleon below a dropoff that I am taking
>Plunge attack takes off 75% of their HP
>I hit R1 before I realise it's a red

Fuck

I just jumped off the edge to my death. That's embaressing.
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>>180768598
>>180768696

its only made things more difficult. took it off a while ago and all that did was make me take less damage. never had much trouble dodging at the right time.
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>>180768731
I've never really come across them, then.

Must be nice. These invasions are honestly lacking in challenge lately.
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>>180767085
>>180768692
You can start by not spamming your question.

>>180768706
Making bad tactical calls when going through a level can be recovered from by learning and gitting gud.

Making a bad strategic decision through inefficient leveling can utterly fuck a character for an entire playthrough with no chance to recover.
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>>180768706
The issue is that there is no way of knowing if a decision is good or bad ahead of time in these games without
1) reading up on how builds beforehand, removing the entire point of stopping someone from doing this in NG, as there is 0 weight to just copying a good build
2)Just rolling the dice and hoping the build you went for doesn't end up being shit.

That's the core issue, your NOT making a decision, your either looking up info or rolling the dice and praying.
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>>180768706
>implying you can possibly know everything from the get go and even be able to judge what is a stupid decision and what isn't
guide reading cuck
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>>180768876
Stay mad, sweetie.
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>>180768671
Scatter prism stones liberally, reduce them to a sliver of health with punches, then drop a single rubbish at their feet.
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>>180769024
Wasn't getting any responses. Seeing as how you ignored it too, not sure why you're so angry.
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>>180769040
>>180769027
>>180769024
You guys act like respeccing is a necessity, yet people still played through Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne just fine without it.
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>>180768671
place prism stones, almost kill them, and drop a purging stone if they're hollow.
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>>180768654
>>180767972
>>180768414
How about we make respecing easy, but it consumes a limited, rare item, so there is still weight to it? Maybe make the item a bit of a secret on how to use it properly so that people are less likely to respec right away.

Nah, that would make too much sense.
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>>180768706
>game has builds that seem fine on paper but are actually complete shit because things don't work the way they're intended to or aren't actually how they appear on the stat sheet
>implying you have any way of knowing that without reading guides first
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>>180769229
>You guys act like respeccing is a necessity
Yes it is.
>yet people still played through Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne just fine without it.
There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW complaining there are no respecs in dark souls 1. Ask anyone who plays bloodborne if they wouldn't want to respec their builds. Go ahead.
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>>180768671
I only ever ran into one while Aldrichfagging. He was sitting on the ladder above an aggroed doggo, so I kicked him down and watched the doggo eat him alive.
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>>180769272
>How about we make respecing easy, but it consumes a limited, rare item, so there is still weight to it? Maybe make the item a bit of a secret on how to use it properly so that people are less likely to respec right away.
You mean, like how DS2 did it? Gee golly anon your pretty clever ain ya?
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>>180766976
don't forget CoC and power stance

there is no reason why paired weapons couldn't have just been unique powerstance movesets

>>180769364
congratulation on getting the joke
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What is this stuff about Collectors Edition I see from time to time?
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>>180769346
>Ask anyone who plays bloodborne if they wouldn't want to respec their builds.
Nah, my builds are good where they are, because I am not a casual shitter.
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>>180769346
I'm not saying no respecs ever, I said respec only in ng+
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>>180769479
Yeah but you're not a relevant person either so your opinion is invalid.
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>>180769229
>yet people still played through Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne just fine without it
>Bloodborne
Never seen people complaining about Chalice dungeons every single time they want to try a different build?
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>>180769409
CE
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>>180769409
Are you okay with running a minor risk of being banned?
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>>180769272
>limited
then you just get into the same problem as rosaria being limited. make it rare, sure, make it nearly impossible to obtain if you want. but don't make it limited. Soul Vessels were rare and "limited" but because Dark Souls 2 was designed well you had ways to make them unlimited too, just tedious to obtain

>>180769408
powerstance was cool. but i think having access to full movesets in each hand was vastly more important, how they thought they could just revert back to the DaS limpwristed offhand block is beyond me. the absolutely fucking retarded design choices in 3 are unforgivable
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>>180769554
For fucks sake I'm not arguing for no respecs ever, I'm arguing your first playthrough in ng on a character should not allow respecs.
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>>180769561
Oh I'm a moron.
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>>180768671
kill em if they're by the bonfire, black crystal out if they're somewhere else
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>>180769229
My first character in DaS1 had about 130 points in offensive stats because I thought that the true Greatsword of Artorias would be a great weapon to use against 4 Kings. That build also had only 17 Vit and 25 Endurance.

That playthrough went far from fine, and had there been a respec option I certainly would have taken it.
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>>180769545
>Go ahead and ask them . . .
>. . . oh by the way, anyone that doesn't agree with me is not relevant.

>>180769554
That has more to do with chalices being boring and repetitive. even if you could respect people would still bitch about them since you will still have to grind for new Gems.

Plus, it would be broken as hell since you could just use the Whirly for farming then swap to the Rakuyo for PvP.
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>>180769532
That's still stupid because you should not be forced to go through the game again to gain access to that. Unless it's accessible at the start of the adventure.
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>>180769645
It's because DS2 was built on DS1, but DS3 was built on BB and had to backtrack to get back to the souls formula.
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>>180769229
I don't see a problem with respecing. If you want to try a new build you can just go ahead and do it. If you're against it, you can choose not to use that feature. Why those that don't wish to use it would push for it being removed from the game when it has zero consequences for them I don't know. All it does is prolong the life of a game.

No, most people are not devoted to the game nearly as much as the folks who crawl around here. The prospect of replaying the entire game (and sometimes having to go late into NG+) to finish their new build is not an appealing one. This is even worse for Bloodborne and it's chalices.

It doesn't matter that you can summon help, or that there are ways to speed up the process, or that you know how to glitch through a wall and cut this time down by a third. People just don't want to do it. So they move on instead of continuing to play. It's that simple.
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>>180769662
Again the crux of the issue is that there is no way to plan your build without reading up a guide on how to make a good build (in which case there is 0 weight because the person playing isn't even making a decision) or just hoping the the build wont be shit.
The mechanics of the souls games are not straightforward, you wont pick up DS1 then just intuitively figure out that the giantdad build.

You are not punishing a bad decision
You are punishing bad luck for guessing wrong
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>>180769859
Ok, I'll fix it for you lucy.

>Ask anyone who is not a retarded braindead sonypony and is not a guide reading cuck.

now go back to tekken general to give more bad advice for new players.
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>>180769212
use ringed knight spear, wear full ring knight with the bug mask thing, use weapon art at start of every fight, get parried, alt-f4

but seriously tho, dragon slayer spear is good. also, the red-hilted halberd has a spear r1 but is also not a spear so is therefore better
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>>180769859
>That has more to do with chalices being boring and repetitive.
And he's suggesting ng+ as a solution, which implies you think ng+ isn't boring and repetitive?
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>>180770053
Requiring players to level up instead of making your character's strength based entirely on equipment is the worst part of souls. It's a crutch to create an arbitrary sense of progression when you aren't actually learning much about the game, just leveling up more
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>>180755072
I could help you if you need those
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>>180770202
Because by the time most people are doing the chalices, they are one shotting everything in the chalices up until the defiled chalice. No one would complain about chalices if they started with the defiled chalice.
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>>180769859
>That has more to do with chalices being boring and repetitive
Yes? Respecs so you didn't have to do a new PVE run and run through 6 or so Chalices would make it much less boring and repetitive.
>you will still have to grind for new Gems
It's not like you can't just swap gems around anyway. Half the weapons use the same setups, and most setups don't take long to farm at all.
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>>180770373
>No one would complain about chalices if they started with the defiled chalice.
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>>180770641
>>180770729
Please stop replying to it.
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>>180765327
I made 7 characters in the past month and a half, played through ng 7 times. Still not sick of it, i'm about to solo ng+.
Seems crazy how many people play this game who don't have fun with pve.
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>>180770745
Make me, faggot.
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>>180770373
>No one would complain about chalices if they started with the defiled chalice
But they're no-..
Actually, I'm just going to take this guy's advice from now on.>>180770745
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What spells are even good on a crystal chime build? The only spells that scale with both stats are attack spells, but it can't poisecast so you're basically just stuck with sorcery, which means you may as well just use an ordinary stave.
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>>180770641
You aren't going to just swap ARC gems to a BLT build.

>>180770729
Most of the hate comes from having to run through a bunch of boring fluff chalices before you get to the Depth 4 and 5 ones. Most people like spelunking in Depth 4 and 5 FRC chalices.

>>180770861
I accept your defeat; we both knew you had already lost anyway.
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>>180766187
I play with manual attack aiming on, seems a lot better because auto aim will whiff sideways rollers sometimes. I play unlocked a lot too though and yeah, seems most people just lock on and don't even consider playing unlocked ever it's ridiculous. I was mostly playing unlocked right when i started souls, was even better in das1.
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>>180770809
The main thing is people will often make builds with only pvp in mind, so in return pve to them just becomes a chore to slog through.
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>>180771012
>Most people like spelunking in Depth 4 and 5 FRC chalices.
Is that why there are like a million docs telling exactly where to farm what you want to farm so you "have fun spelunking depth 4 and depth 5 FRC chalices"?
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>>180770982
Crystal Chime is for if you're a Pyromancer with 40/40 who wants to get more power out of Sorceries and Miracles than just 40 Int or 40 Faith alone. You still won't hit as hard as someone with 60 Int or 60 Faith, but it's still better than nothing.
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What's the best slutwear?
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>>180770982
I used it for med heal/snap freeze on my friede cosplay
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>>180771132
I switch between locked on and freeaim as necessary. Both have their upsides. Especially with a greataxe, I don't want to be freeaiming all the time because actually good players will take the opportunity to backstab me if I overuse it.
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>>180771178
All my builds are pvp oriented, sl120 is the highest, but i still enjoy the process of making them. If it's really a chore I don't get why they'd bother.
Anyway I don't want to have to respec every time I want to use a different weapon, would rather just change characters and have all my favorite options at once
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>>180771178
this is true for me, I enjoy playing through the game initially but once i've done everything I don't enjoy doing it again, so I just slug through it to make my invasions characters
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>>180771213
No it isn't. It's for spells that don't rely on scaling.

Mixing in offense spells of different schools is a bad idea in general since you only have 4 ring slots to work with and 3 are most likely dedicated to a main spell type and casting speed.
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