/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #513

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BAE > bay everyday!

BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>180521637
>Tom Gould

Delete this crap

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Reasons why Chloe is destined to die and DONTnod wanted it that way
>One moon disappears when Jefferson shoots Chloe.
>The second moon reappears as referenced in the newspaper in the timeline where Max saves Chloe and heads to San Francisco.
>Max wears a shirt with a butterfly, a reference to The Butterfly Effect, where the protagonist tries, and fails, to change time
>Chloe references Max's vision coming true. Seeing the tornado was a premonition, a power linked to her Rewind ability. It was warning her of the implications of messing with time.
>Chloe's boot becomes stuck in the train tracks for no apparent reason, right as a train is coming. Destiny was calling.
>Chloe shoots herself with an impossible ricochet, which reinforces that her fate is to die.
>In the AU, Chloe asks to be euthanized, as she's close to dying anyway. If Max refuses to kill Chloe, she's bitter and angry. Max's choice there reflects the binary choice at the end. It's a sign that Chloe wouldn't be pleased if Max let her live. Her far off stare and hesistation to embrace Max in the Bae ending reflect her mixed emotions about surviving.
>The back of the physical box for Life is Strange—Yes. They're out there.--says Max will learn that changing time isn't a good thing.
>The Everyday Heroes Contests is about ordinary people performing extraordinary acts. Superheroes often receive unwanted powers. They have the choice to use them responsibly, or not. The latter of which makes them villains. Heroes are forced to make snap decisions, often ones that kill those close to them for the greater good. The theme extends to the ending where Max is forced to chose between Chloe and Arcadia Bay. Both members of Pricefield acknowledge Max's responsibility for the storm. If they believed that and still let the storm happen, Chloe would lose respect for Max. Pricefield would cease to exist.

Unlike Spiderman, Max isn't presented with a way to save her girlfriend and the town. Sucks, but it's true.

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Max is #1

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I love Hawt Dawg Man

>>180521719
Who's Tom Gould?

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>stale bayt

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Here to save the day!

I think the guy Chloe and Rachel look at in the binoculars was just some random guy, if it was Rachel's dad then It think she would have said something.
I do wonder what Chloe will say if you choose to comment on the 'Grill Dad'.

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Brooke is very underrated

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>> You suck Victoria!

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>>180521819
>It's Max's overuse of her power that's causing the tornado
>Solution is to go back to bathroom and let Chloe die
>Because if it wasn't for that meeting in the bathroom, Max would have never discovered her power
>So apparently the idea is to make a timeline where Max never discovers her power
>But we already did this (alt universe/w Wheelie Chloe), and the same paranormal events were still happening at exactly the same times
>Let's ignore that for the moment, and point out Max discovered her power as a direct result of seeing Chloe die
>Presumably, Chloe not dying would have the same effect (actually a better chance) at stopping her from discovering her powers
>But this is what we actually did in the first rewind, went back to the bathroom and engineered a scenario where Chloe didn't die, so Max wouldn't have to rewind
>Ah, but that was after Max had already rewound once. Maybe the butterfly photo takes you back to the first time Max enters the Bathroom.
>Except that we had to re-take the Butterfly photo the second time we went into the bathroom, so that photo should lead to the second time Max entered the bathroom, where she already has her powers
>And they already established with photographing Kate and David, that you don't get to keep the photos after a rewind (except for the purposes of the optional photo collection thing, you don't keep them in game).
>So the photo must lead to the post-rewind bathroom
>Whateva, let's ignore that for the moment as well and assume the photo does take Max back to the first time she enters the bathroom
>Then since this is the first time in the bathroom, doing exactly what she did the second time, triggering the alarm and saving Chloe, would have prevented her from discovering her powers. Since letting Chloe die the first time around is actually what led to Max discovering her powers.

>>180522917
how did Jefferson get to the junkyard before Max and Chloe again?

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>>180521389
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it

>>180523080
Not really explained but if I had to guess he sent the text message/had Nathan send it (if he was still alive by that point) and then left the school to go towards the junkyard.
He parked his car somewhere away from the main entrance and waited in hiding until he saw Chloe's truck pull up and then he snuck up behind them. Or he just got super lucky and arrived after they did and was able to creep up without being heard.

On a side note: There should have been an option to yell at Chloe to duck so when Jefferson shot, he either missed and got shot by Chloe, or Chloe ducked and the bullet ricocheted back at him since they can apparently do that in the LiS world.

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>>180522418

Why Max was given the time rewind power if she wasn't meant to use it?

>>180523080
Untold mystical powers. Can't flim flam the Jefferjam

>>180523819
In-game explanation: so that Max could spend one last week with Chloe, rebuilding their relationship and growing as a person
Actual explanation: Because otherwise Dontnod wouldn't be able to make the game work and end it with their pointlessly tragic ending.

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>nobody will ever look at you like this

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>>180523954
but that doesn't make any sense....
oh fuck it.
I hate this game.

>>180523954
>In-game explanation: so that Max could spend one last week with Chloe
How terrible. She was given a power she didn't ask for any nobody can fault her for using it to help others and make herself happy and nobody can ask her to undo saving her best friend. If Chloe was meant to die, then she would have and there would have been no reversing it.
That was Max's fate to save her.

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There is not even an instant where Max regrets her choice.
Whenever she starts getting stressed and anxious about everything, she just looks into Chloe's eyes and remembers what all her struggles were for. It was worth it.

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Remember the guy man who was making out with prostitute in video? He's here now, and with Rachel.

Yeah, he'll be Rachel's dad. Fangirls' theories were true.

>>180525993
I think he looks kind of young to be Rachel's dad. I keep thinking he looks like an older Nathan.
Would it be possible that the Ambers are really Prescotts but just changed their name to distance themselves?

>>180525993
>the girl whom was referenced by Laura Palmer's dad cheating
yeah it's Twin Peaks all over again

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>>180526107
Yeah, he doesn't seem much more younger either.

>>180524987
But how much more depressing would it have been if Max *hadn't* gotten her powers and Chloe had simply died then and there? Nathan would have run out of the bathroom and Max would have walked over, realizing that the girl was Chloe and that she and Max would never reconnect and that Chloe had died completely alone.
The Bay ending doesn't help Chloe, but it helps Max by giving her a final week with Chloe and a chance for a lot of personal growth. It's still depressing, but not as depressing as Max never using her powers in the first place.

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>>180521819
whole post is absolute nonsense but I want to englighten your ignorance here:
>Max wears a shirt with a butterfly, a reference to The Butterfly Effect, where the protagonist tries, and fails, to change time
she was wearing a shirt with Acherontia atropos .but still wasn't giving a message about 'the actual ending'. For butterfly, yeah it definitely shows THE FAILURE:) We've seen it just before things go to shit so we can say it was definitely prophet of doom.Ah, remember we've also seen it at Bay ending.

>>180524635
This is a game where the origin of Max's power is never explained at all. So relatively speaking, I think it makes quite a lot of sense.

>>180526554
>it helps Max by giving her a final week with Chloe and a chance for a lot of personal growth
Man, she'd totally go nuts just hours after the funeral.
Just think about it, you've been through so many things you found girl's corpse in junkyard,your favourite teacher was psycho all along,you got time-travel powers but if you use it universe sends storm to your town,during all of these fuckeries you tried so hard to keep someone you love alive no matter what.. and you can't exactly tell anyone this,they won't exactly believe you either. This is why I'm thinking the butterfly photo wasn't ripped up in that ending. Max still has chance and I do believe that she will come back to her Chloe.

>flavor of the month conspiracies

Oh, this place is infuriating.

>>180526554
It would have been just as depressing, which is why preventing Chloe's death is the best thing for Max to do.
The Bay Ending helps no one unless you failed to save Kate.

>>180526616
After pulling that knife on Chloe, I would have shot him in the head.

Why does everyone overlook what a vile cunt he is?

>>180526652
if you are not blind you can see what's going on with time-travel (I'm not talking about warryn's conversation in diner)
AU timeline for example, gave us many hints to things will go to shit.
developers didn't make an effort to explain why she teleported herself in first place,because they considered it as ''teaching player to how to use these powers'' because developers didn't care about if time-travel made sense for endings' sake.

on general, you can see Max's bathroom actions triggered storm somehow, what we've seen was storm wasn't getting rid of Chloe it wasn't caring about if she died during the week because it was trying to gain its own balance.so it's not entirely chloe's death. all blame goes for events for bathroom events which's non-sense because Max changed things in the past also.

>>180526732
Damn. How can Kate and Vic(?) Rach(?) dare Chloe to do that?
They're hella sick and I, for one, am appalled by their actions.

I think it's all but confirmed that Max's power came from Rachel.
Like the storm, Rachel is the same in every timeline- dead at the hands of Jefferson and Nathan. However in the timeline where she knew Chloe, we see her spirit and Max has powers. In the timeline where Chloe and Rachel never met, we do not see the doe and alternate Max's diary makes no mention of any powers.

>>180527316
Kate and Rachel according to the Tumblr page.

>>180527458
Then who's that mafia looking guy?

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>>180527281

His limp after getting the knife in his leg is hilarious in episode 4 thou.

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>>180527730

>>180527503
No definite answer (yet)
If it is Rachel's dad, is there any indication that the woman is not her mother? She could just be seeing her parents but not have that great of a relationship with them then. Remember, in the original timeline they are no longer looking for her but in the alternate timeline they are. There some difference in Rachel's life across the timelines even if her fate was most likely the same.

>>180527730
That was the best result I could get. At least he lived and seemed to be friendlier later on in episode 5.
I played episode 4 the day it came out and there was some bug for me where I would try to rewind only a little bit but it would get stuck and just keep going through to the very start of the conversation. At the time I started to think it was showing that Max's power really was bugging out and she couldn't control it.

>>180527503
>>180528127
Then he's a villain like Jefferson.

>>180525993
Have you noticed that it types
>LIAR
nearby the man. Yeah he doesn't seem so much friendlier.

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>in BtS we are gonna solve 'mystery' between Rachel's bastard dad and his bitch
>this was her family secret
we always expect too much,come up with awesome theories,yet when the more they give information about the game,we always get disappointed as result.

>>180521819
>One moon disappears when Jefferson shoots Chloe.

Your very first point is wrong. At least try a little bit.

>>180528370
Maybe. I really do think he's another Prescott. Not Sean or Nathan, maybe another son of Sean. He just looks really similar to them.

>>180528948
Rachel's secret is probably going to have some kind of supernatural element.

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Instead of anticipating depression, who's ready for some Chloe happy moments in the prequel?

>>180527730
I really liked how Chloe wrestled him, and shouted "Motherfucker!" before stabbing him. It was so invigorating to behold.

>>180529781
No matter how happy we see her in the prequel, it will sadly never be as happy as she was during her week with Max

>>180529967
Well, obviously.

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>>180529781
Even so, they will not be genuine.

>>180530571
tell me one good reason to not cry.

>>180530052
Even at her happiest in s1, it still makes me sad how much Chloe is clearly hurting

>>180530571
Of course it will be genuine. As sad as time as it was overall, I'm sure Chloe had a lot of good moments.
Doing fun stuff with Rachel, wrecking stuff with Frank, discovering who she is as a person. Even if Chloe obviously misses her dad and Max, she was still able to be happy at times. That's a point the game must stress.

>>180530745
It's so apparent . It's laced in her words, her posture, her glances, and her anger.

Max tries to bleed it out of her; she takes the pain, and soothes the burn, but it's so plentiful that I wondered if it would consume Max, as well.

In those moments of healing, Chloe recognized the feeling of someone trying to piece her together, and misses Rachel's finesse ("I wish Rachel was here").

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>>180530571
>"I'll always love you... Now, get out of here, please! Do it before I freak. And Max Caulfield? Don't you forget about me..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWTaaS7LdU

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>>180531598
Is that cut dialogue? I've never heard her say that in any of my playthroughs. That must've been a terrible ending, or maybe just part of the nightmare sequence.

>LiS 75% off on steam

We're gonna get flooded by more idiots, arent we?

>>180528948
>his bitch

Rude.

>>180531787
I've never heard it either. I hope Max doesn't have too many nightmares over what happened.
Maybe she can learn to control her dreams and stuff, or if one does frighten her and wake her up then Chloe will be there to comfort her.
Just as Max will be there to comfort Chloe if she ever has a bad dream.

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>>180531598
>>180531598
>Oh, my Chloe. It feels like we've lived a thousand lives this week. I'd do anything just to wake up next to you. Maybe if I... get to the lighthouse... this will all finally end.

https://clyp.it/s4a1m2q0

>tfw Max loves Chloe no matter what.

>"Chloe... I love you."

>"You better. And, I’ll always love you. Now, get out of here, please! Do it before I freak. And, Max Caulfield? Don’t you ever forget about me..."

https://clyp.it/gdwncean

>tfw Chloe was making love confession for Max in either way

I dont like the way the endings are labeled. The only thing you are deciding to never do in the 'sacrifice Arcadia Bay' ending is to never go back to the bathroom and allow Chloe to die. You still have dozens of pictures from throughout the week in your bag. The idea that by ripping up the butterfly photo you are giving up on the rest of the town is silly.

What's up with all this unused dialogue?

>>180532801
The idea some people have that Max is killing people by saving Chloe is silly.
It's a storm. Even if it was caused by her powers it's still an event that can happen naturally. Everyone in the town is free and capable of taking action to save themselves, Chloe is not.

>>180532731
The first clip, about going to the lighthouse... Was that a real cut line? Was it supposed to be after the Bay ending?

>>180532801
Max generally feels like she gained short-term amnesia during the entirety of episode 5. Jefferson's drugs must have fucked her up.

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>[Chloe lightly snoring and Max mumbling about the nice dream she is having]

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>>180532829
They are confirmations for those who are still in delusion. You can even cuck warryncucks with those leaks.

Evidences in-game were totally enough (but too bad many of them acting like they've missed it or trying to ignore it) they ended up gettin' cuck'd , anyway.

>>180532997
Maybe it was the drugs, the stress, and all the timehopping. no doubt Max had gone through a lot and wasn't thinking clearly on the cliff until she fully realized her feelings for Chloe. She'd realize a day or two after the storm that she can go back and do so much more. At least to ensure Chloe's family and all their friends are given proper warning. Everything will work out fine.

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>>180533020
And when Chloe wakes up earlier to get groceries

>>180532829
The extra dialogue they recorded but never used is kinda weird. It'd be genuinely interesting to get a copy of the script the VAs were using ... it seems like the developers had a whole bunch of ideas they weren't yet totally sure of yet, so they recorded a bunch of additional audio just in case. The stuff about Nathan knowing about the storm in Episode 4 being one of the more extreme examples.

>>180532928
No it was in dream sequence.
But Dontnod didn't want to make her love for Chloe more obvious while it was overwhemingly obvious from journal.

>>180533020
me on the left

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>>180533116
That could be, but it's most likely a bad case of French writing

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>>180532997
>>180533116
I wonder who was behind all of these...

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>>180533120
Max likes to sleep in when she can.
Chloe's a morning person and gets up to get ready for the day. She lets Max keep sleeping but takes pic related and leaves it on the pillow or table next to Max.
Kisses Max on the head before going out.

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>>180533141
do guys remember while they were denying it,saying that there's no such a thing then sneakily tried to delete it with update.

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Good morning /lisg/, what are you gonna do today? Today's friday, that means a whole lotta weekend full of cuteposting is before us!

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Where does this play again in the game? It just came up on my spotify and I was suddenly hit by a truckload of feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqxqC4xrDfQ

>>180533413
They still left in Sean's cryptic email that was clearly referring to the storm, I guess that just got shoveled in with all the other "red herrings"

>>180533678
When you're driving Jefferson's car to the Two Whales I think

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>>180533413
>>180533710
Dark Room also still straight up called the Stormbreaker Bunker

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>>180532801
The pictures from past are useless, remember she tried so hard to escape from the dark room but she couldn't change anything major with them. Maybe with the one she took with Chloe she could do something,but french hack-writers wouldn't let her to get better ending anyway

The more important thing about endings is:
>Sacrifice Arcadia Bay- She ripped up the butterfly photo,this shows how certain she is.
>Sacrifice Chloe- She didn't rip up the butterfly photo,she could've rip it up but didn't.Why? :)

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>>180533837
like they ever needed stormbreaker bunker...

>>180533678
When faggot Nathan was making his confession before Jefferson coming for to kill him.

>I didn't want to hurt anybody
>That's why I waited for making this confession until I realize I'll die

>>180533413
I don't think they ever denied it, did they? Michel even directly addressed it at one point: he said it was a concept they were playing around with, but in the end didn't add into the story. Still a little cheeky to put it into the episode's trailer (it's not like they can deny *that* usage of it), and to bother to delete the lines from the game files after they were tracked down.

IIRC, the real controversy it all kicked off around here had to do with whether the "Nathan knowing about the storm" stuff was really just some idea they were playing around with during development, or whether it was something they intended all along but then dropped for whatever reason (budget?). Michel certainly claimed that the game still ended as they intended, and, again IIRC, none of the quotes the developers actually said about budget issues suggested that they had cut/changed anything for those reasons. But at the end of the day, we just don't really know.

>>180533710
I think this is probably overstating things a bit. None of the Sean Prescott stuff was ever particularly clear or conclusive. Lots of allusions to bigger things, Nathan's future, etc, but nothing that solidly implies involvement in any of the supernatural elements. IF Michel's statements were true (they were messing around with the idea, but it wasn't set in stone), then I think it all fits pretty well: all of his statements could be storm-related foreshadowing; or they could just be banal backstory/context for Nathan, highlighting his father's overbearing personality.

But that's a big "if". Years later and the developers haven't had a more candid discussion about some of these issues in Ep4/5. I wonder if we'll get a bit more following Season 2?

>>180534295
yeah at first they denied then some fan asked with its audio and they've said ''nah it's not a big deal'' and immediately deleted it after the update.

funny thing is they left Logan's unnecessary dialogue but only deleted it. weird

>>180533710
Can you send its screenshoot? I don't remember

>>180525993
I am NOT a fangirl! This shit was as clear as day

>>180534163
i played in playthrough where Kate jumped. his facial expressions really got on my nerves. he was so calm and almost cheekily smiley

now people think his confession eased up all of his sins.

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>>180534719
>Goodbye anons' awesome theories about Rachel's connection between Native American Spirit
>Goodbye Rachel's Revenge
>Goodbye dipshit Raven and you've no importance in this story as we thought
>Goodbye William.
>Goodbye spiritual doe
>Goodbye strange things...
>Goodbye my Santa Monica Dream
>Say hi to Operation: kill Daddy's prostitute

>"Rachel has a troubling secret which is preventing her from being friends with Chloe!"
>oh her parents are just cheating hue, and it's introduced to the player during a light-hearted and comedic scene, via some distant crummy quality background characters.

Yeah, nah. That's hardly a compelling scenario, especially given that the supernatural elements are confirmed to be returning.

Rachel's secret is described on the steam store as a "secret about her family", so it makes total sense for it to involve her parents, and for them to be the people shown in >>180525993's image. But for it to be as simple as "they're cheating"? Yeah, nah.

>>180533678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-ViHRQFja8

>>180535220
imo, let's not keep our hopes up because they can do anything at this point.

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>>180535319
fugg

>>180535319
>this voice message should've reached Max during the Vortex Club party
>but it didn't for somewhat reasons

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>>180535319
>>180534163
>aww poor Nathan :( he deserved so much better!!!

>lol fuck that bitch Chloe, she's a irredeemable cunt and deserve to die

>>180535429
Sure.

But if it's something as simple as "Rachel's parents are cheating on each other", there's going to have to be a lot more going on to make it a multi-episode story for *Chloe* to work through, especially if supernatural elements need to fit in there too.

I get the feeling that "those people under that tree are Rachel's parent(s)" is going to be the new "the homeless woman is Max from the future" for the next few months.

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>>180535319
>Everybody used me
Why did you let them use you Nathan?
Why didn't you go to police after you kinda know what happened to Rachel? Why didn't you report your fucking teacher at the right place and hid like a coward?
Why did you keep all of these as secret and also tried to dose another girl after all of these fuckery?

>>180535524
Man don't remind me. I see many fangirls on YT,tumblr who are calling Nathan as their smal precious bean akawarryncucks

I even seen someone who was praising Jefferson's actions but calling Chloe as bad person /because of what did she say when she was angry and they completely ignoring that she said she is sorry afterwards. They are so forgiving to people who did fucked up things like dosing girls,killing people with fucking gun in 1 night.. The fuck is wrong with these people?

>>180535645
the main thing about this prequel is Rachel and Chloe's getting through their suffering,helping each other.

but I really don't want it to be just ''dad's cheating'' thing. sure this could be another issue but there has to be another 'deep' plot imo.

>I get the feeling that "those people under that tree are Rachel's parent(s)" is going to be the new "the homeless woman is Max from the future" for the next few months.
kek. let's hope so...

>>180536308
>but I really don't want it to be just ''dad's cheating'' thing. sure this could be another issue but there has to be another 'deep' plot imo.

My tongue-in-cheek crack-theory from a few threads back kinda works with this scenario. Rachel has Max's powers, can go back to change things. She discovers that her parents are cheating, so she uses the powers to jump to jump back to try to prevent it from happening. Things appear to have worked out ok, except maybe for some changes to her various friendships (maybe she had to leave her "original" Chloe behind to be in this loving-family timeline?). Things are going well, she hooks up with Chloe again and has a great time ... but then she discovers that her parents are still cheating. So she's upset, and "can't be friends wth Chloe right now" because she think she's going to have to mess with the timelines again, further messing with or resetting her friendship with Chloe.

Or something. I don't think anything like this is actually what is happening, this is just the sort of thinking for how the Season 1 supernatural stuff could play some role in a story about Rachel's parents cheating.

>>180535684
because nathan was the one that killed rachel with an overdose and hid her body, jefferson had nothing to do with that, going to the police would get him fucked.

>>180535684
>Why didn't you go to police after you kinda know what happened to Rachel?
Because he'd be convicted for murder and spend a good chunk of his life wasting away in prison. I should think it's pretty obvious.

>>180536808
i hope this theory comes true. or something happens similar to you've said.
because i really want to see that there's something special about Rachel. not just simple issues

>>180536842
>>180536856
So he was just a fucking coward because he couldn't take his actions' responsibility. Even after this fuckery , he dosed two girls.He waited until the day he die to make this confession.

If he wasn't coward he could've fix Kate's issue,could Rachel,arrest Jefferson etc.

No matter what they say, no matter if he has daddy issues, no matter if he has some mental problems, he IS responsible for his own actions. Of course I felt sorry during his confession but he got what he deserved really. it can't ease up all of his sins.

>>180537132
So he's a selfish person. What did you expect? Going to the police wouldn't have undone any of his actions. He was beyond redemption and he knew it.

>>180537668
By going to the police, at least he could've proved that he was brave enough to take responsibility,and could easily fix this fuckery he caused.

If things had gone like this I could've understood the fangirls who are saying ''he did nuffin wrong,my smal bean <3''

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8UXJKT-et8&t=36s

roasting victoria at vortex club has the funniest moment in this game

mean max, best max!

>>180538357
>roasting her actually saved her life

>page 10

JUST

The more I think about it the more suspicious I find the party in episode 4.

First off its thrown by the VORTEX Club.

Second off its called The End of the World Party.

Sure, you could say both of those are just coincidences. You'd be crazy to, considering Nathan is the one funding the club and he has cut dialogue about the storm coming to kill everyone, but I suppose you could deny that.

But most strange of all is that its on a Thursday. In what world does it make sense to throw a late-night after-school party on a Thursday, unless you know about the storm coming the next day?

>>180541594
It's the same problem as before when talking about the Sean Prescott stuff. Was there actually supposed to be some connection between the club/party and the supernatural storm, or did the developers just think it would be a fun thematic/red herring link to add? We don't know.

But if there was a link, it would have to suggest that Michel's "we were just playing with ideas about Nathan knowing about the storm" line had to be a lie, because the Vortex club and party's name were known since the very start.

>In what world does it make sense to throw a late-night after-school party on a Thursday, unless you know about the storm coming the next day?
I'd put zero stock into the logistics of the parties making any sense. It's almost certainly the case that the party takes place on the Thursday simply because the script/plot requires it to take place on a Thursday.

Furthermore, the party Kate was drugged at was only a week prior (the Friday earlier, 3 days before the start of Ep1, IIRC?): is Blackwell having these massively expensive parties on a weekly basis? And IIRC, the dates of some of the other Vortex Club parties we know about might have been on weird days too.

Anyway, I wouldn't put much thought into the night the party was held. It's almost certainly for plot convenience, not because it makes the most real-world sense.

>>180541594
I have no doubt that the Prescott family was supposed to have a bigger role in the game.

>>180542119
The Prescotts' "destiny" is probably something only male heirs were privy to. Nathan's sister was clearly making fun of it by putting "destiny" between quotation marks, maybe she was out of the loop

>>180541594
>>180542069
>>180542119
>>180542282
Do you think prescotts will be mentioned so much in prequel? her relations with storm,supernatural shit.. ?

>>180542487
they can't go too deep, just hint at some stuff. They have to respect the LiS canon

>>180542119
I have some doubt.

I mean, while "the Prescotts" have some vague and overarching inclusion throughout the game, they're never really introduced until Episode 4, and even then it's all background information. Us power nerds have been obsessing over every tiny little note to/from Sean Prescott, but the average player is probably going to miss (or instantly forget about) pretty much all of that. Conspiracy theory aside, that stuff mostly seems to exist to frame Nathan's character (overbearing father who really doesn't respect Nathan's interests or mental illness, but otherwise spoils him in an attempt to keep him in-check), not to set up the existence of some dark Prescott cabal which is controlling all the supernatural elements via some Lovecraftian cult.

I mean, the Jefferson reveal came pretty much out of nowhere, they did very little to establish in-game that he was going to be involved in the plot-proper. But he still got a fair chunk of scenes to help establish the character earlier on. If Sean Prescott and friends were supposed to be a larger entity that Jefferson again, I'd expect them to have a little more appearance in the game. Not just general disdain from the townsfolk, or notes to Nathan which make him look like a bit of a shitty parent.

>>180542282
I mean, the most direct reading of it is that Nathan's "destiny" is to eventually take over the company from his father. This is the trouble, it's very easy to try to read into things which otherwise have totally reasonable in-Universe explanations.

>>180542564
>They have to respect the LiS canon
it's kinda impossible while this faggot (toby) is there though. because he thinks ''our choices will be also matter'' in prequel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G07OmeYHogU&lc

>>180542610
>I mean, the most direct reading of it is that Nathan's "destiny" is to eventually take over the company from his father. This is the trouble, it's very easy to try to read into things which otherwise have totally reasonable in-Universe explanations.

>"It was hard for me when my dad opened my eyes to our destiny, but you'll thank me
someday. Don't worry about Blackwell. This shithole town is going to get an enema
along with a fresh brand. "

Doesnt really sound like thats what he's talking about though. Doesnt seem like it'd be hard for greedy fucks like the prescotts to have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that they'd eventually inherit a company and be rich.

>>180542564
>respect the LiS canon
I'm really worried on that.

>>180542754
Yep. Simply behind an asshole who destroys jobs to make money doesn't seem that hard. There may have been a deeper meaning

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>>180542659
>Deck Nine's co-game director
He looks like poor man's version of Michel.

Re-watching the gameplay footage and there's no doubt it's Chloe's truck in the junkyard. I'm really curious to see how she will meet her mount and in which episode

>>180543036
Deck (over) nine thousands

>>180541594
>nothing was cut:)
actually this game really had potential for more solving plot holes. but they couldn't use that opportunity.

>>180543036
Who would win in a fight?

https://instaud.io/129D Jefferson's dialogue at the end of the party is actually interesting

>>180543036
>Dontnod Co-game director
>*No one can cut him off while talking*

>Dick Nine Co-game director
>*Speak some words that everyone memorized and then let community manager speak,sit there like a retard*

This fags are really made me miss Michel. Life is really strange isn't it?

>>180543213
deck9's. He is heavier

>>180543296
>YOU WILL DIE
>SHE WILL DIE
>HE WILL DIE
>EVERYONE WILL DIE TONIGHT

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>>180543213
is that even question?

>>180542754
>Doesnt really sound like thats what he's talking about though.
The "open my eyes to our destiny" stuff sounds a bit more ominous, I'll grant you, but there's nothing particularly conclusive there either.

"This shithole town is going to get an enema" is also perfectly in line with what we know about the Prescott's business plan, which is to buy-out/overhaul big portions of the town. We even see a continuation (or, an earlier example) in the BtS footage where Sean is sending notices about shutting down existing industries.

It's the same problem. That stuff *could* have been foreshadowing the Prescott's knowledge of the storm. But it's also totally consistent with what we know the family is up to without having to invoke the supernatural. It could be a dropped plot, or a red herring, or nothing. How do we know? I guess the answer is: we won't, at least not until Dontnod feels free to talk more candidly about this stuff.

>>180543596
we all know Nathan tried to steal/damage the Tobanga and as a result either ended up in prison or dead. This totem is cursed

>>180543213
>>180543527
>french
>winning

>>180543967
>wannabe co-game director
>winning
come on. they've literally copied Dontnod.
the funny thing is Dontnod literally doesn't give a shit even though they act like nice

>>180544258
>implying dontnod, and especially Michel, ever gave a fuck

>>180544258
>the funny thing is Dontnod literally doesn't give a shit even though they act like nice
I mean, it'd be super silly for Dontnod to not give a shit.

Even ignoring the "they're taking over my artistic baby" angle, the general audience is a fan of Life is Strange, not Dontnod. Let's be real here, the prequel has *much* more demand than Season 2. Judging from the comments I'm still seeing around the place, most of the fans of the series are still totally unaware that the prequel is being developed by a seperate developer.

So what happens if the prequel out performs Season 2, either in sales, or by ratings? How does Dontnod look in such an eventuality? Especially if, as the rumours seem to suggest, they were against the prequel?

If Season 2 is fantastic, there's no problem. But their having to "compete" against their own super-popular property kinda puts them in a bit of a shitty spot.

>>180542659
Honestly I was almost gonna stopped watching when they started to talk ''choices matter'' and giving information about Deluxe edition.. how much it costs.

These fucks are still couldn't understand that LiS has some unique style and our choices don't completely change the story rather than its small details.

People are gonna play prequel because they want to learn characters' pasts, not because of choices or whatever (not like they'll matter as episode 5 showed us)

If anyone's interested btw, there won't be time-lapses.Each of episodes will take about course of the day, 24 hours. 3 episodes=3 days.And they are still thinking we care about choices matter bullshit.

>>180543596
"Life is Strange: the undisclosable truth"
In this essay written in French by Michel, people's tongues at Dontnod loosened and we finally got a pretty good idea of the original script. Or what LiS could have been, if you will. After receiving an enema, Sean Prescott discovered he could generate destructive storms when farting. Only this power needed to be built up for months, making his life a living hell and turning him into a grumpy asshole.
In an attempt to give his heir, Nathan, the same powers, he made him eat beans for his whole childhood, messing up the kid's mind pretty bad. Nathan tried to steal the Tobanga for its curative powers but it didn't pan out, the evil within him was anchored too deeply.
When killing Chloe by accident in the bathroom he accidentally shit himself. The fart didn't create a storm but instead sent a collateral victim, Max, into a weird dimension where she got the ability to manipulate time and space.
The storm finally happened after Nathan's death when he shit himself for good when seeing Jefferson coming for him.
On a side note, Franck discovered the truth from Nathan and to improve his lifestyle, he tried to eat beans on a daily basis to get the powers too. Unfortunately his dream shattered when Max spilled his beans on the floor, forcing him to start his whole beans routine from scratch.
Also, that's the reason why Rachel left him: the wouldn't abandon his routine for her and the smell in the RV was just insurmountable.
To get more crunchy tidbits you can buy the book for $25 only.

>>180544419
>>180544618
i think SE's this attitude really pissed them off because to them, Max and Chloe's story had been already over and they were planning Season 2.

but then money grubber squarefags wanted to rush,found some other developers while original team was busy with the s2. seriously, this is why I don't like Square Enix. They are like fucking ubisoft. All they care about is money,marketing not exactly giving a damn about game's context.

>>180544898
Yep, they should have waited for the strike to end at least. The game is aimed at fans and fans would have waited two years like it's no big deal

>>180544707
>Each of episodes will take about course of the day, 24 hours. 3 episodes=3 days.And they are still thinking we care about choices matter bullshit.

Rachel's daddy issue and this. my hopes are fading fast... the only thing that I can hold onto is seeing Chloe again and unsent letters to Max at this point.

>>180545002
not only that. they are also planning live-action movie (I know it's gonna be shit we don't even know if it'll include original characters though)

I mean this game was awesome I agree, I really loved Max and Chloe. But this is too much. I want their story to end at this point because the more they doing something the more they shitting on it. idk I'm really worried

>>180545239
it's gonna be a tv-show released digitally, netflix-style. The only issue I have with it is that if we get some backstory about a few characters, it would become canon.

>>180545350
>The only issue I have with it is that if we get some backstory about a few characters, it would become canon.
I hope they don't do it. I hope they don't touch original character's. because this game was already a movie-tier game,what's the point of turning into a some tv-show?

I'd be okay with their creating completely new characters,set their story in arcadia bay though.

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max has boobers

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>>180546618
Unnecessary sex appeal decision.

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>>180546925
>they burnt the tree because her dad kissed that women under that tree
pls I don't want this to happen

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Check out Remember Me guys, it's -80% at Steam right now, it's quite an underrated game. Also the game that brought DONTNOD to the brink of bankruptcy.

>>180544707
>Each episodes will take about course of the day, 24 hours. 3 episodes=3 days.
Isn't that too short?

>>180547915
No.

>>180547895
I loved the game but fighting mechanics,combo system sucked hard.

>>180547961
How so? Only 3 days. Is that really enough?

>>180547985
Yes.

It can be enough, if it's an event-to-event progression, and that's not counting how long the episodes will be, within those days. They're probably going to be longer than the season one episodes.

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>>180547985
>I loved the game but fighting mechanics,combo system sucked hard.
o ye

The combat resembled games like Batman and Shadow of Mordor, but just nowhere near as satisfying as those.

The art style and story was neat though.

>>180546705
That was a bit mean of Chloe to do.

>>180543213
Imagination Lord can just imagine his way through a fight. He'll win by default.

>Chris throws a punch
>Michel uses his imagination:), and blocks with ease
>Chris shoots at opponent
>Michel uses his imagination:) and dodges the bullet with ease

>>180546925
Yup that's how the fire starts i think

>>180547915
>>180547961
>>180547985
Sure.

I mean, Season 1 isn't actually much longer, especially if we remove side-plots. It starts at like 4pm Monday afternoon, then ends sometime mid-Friday. That's like ~4 days total. Remove Kate subplot, Frank subplot, etc, and you're shorter again.

Also, what little we've seen from BtS:Ep1 already covers a longer period of time than any of the Season 1 episodes. It starts sometime at night, picks up the next day, then the last scene we see (which isn't even the final scene of the episode) is in the later afternoon/evening of the same day. Only Episode 3 from Season 1 comes close to covering the same period of time, and even that's shorter (starting at midnight, with the final cinematic in the alternate timeline taking place at about the same time as the Chloe/Rachel/Junkyard BtS scene, judging by the lighting).

This is all just a longwinded way to say that it's not about how many days the episodes cover, it'll be how much content they fit into those days.

>>180548161
I believe i read somewhere that each episode is 6 hours long

>>180548554
So, there you go.

>>180548451
With this in mind.

I really hope the secret isn't "dads cheating" like it seems t be so far. That's way too mundane in this day and age. Maybe it is that but also dads a pedo.

>>180548823
I'm pretty sure it's gonna be "Rachel's dad isn't really her dad". And then a Prescott connection or some twisted plot. But once again, where is the supernatural element? We're missing the big picture here

>>180548554
The developers said they expect the whole game to be 6-9 hours long; that's 2-3 hours per episode. This is more-or-less in line with Season 1, most playthroughs seem to have been between the 10-15 hour length. So I'm not getting the impression that the BtS episodes are necessarily longer or shorter.

>>180548554
It's 3 hours each one. Making it 9 hours, or 2 hours the total being of 6 hours, if they're lazy.

Your source was probs Mari alongside with Stacy.

>>180548451
>especially if we remove side-plots. It starts at like 4pm Monday afternoon, then ends sometime mid-Friday. That's like ~4 days total. Remove Kate subplot, Frank subplot, etc, and you're shorter again.

Oh yeah, you've actually made a good point. But again, those characters' scenes only took 10-20 mins at most. I hope they find something to fill prequel to expand its playthrough.

I want to ask, do you guys think they will be loyal to what's canon in LiS or will they just mess it up? Because I don't really trust them for somewhat reasons.

>>180548823
>I really hope the secret isn't "dads cheating" like it seems t be so far.
Let's be clear: this doesn't "seem" to be so far, there's literally zero evidence to support the "Rachel's dad is cheating" speculation.

>>180548554
They said the entire game will be about 6-9 hours. So 2-3 hours per episode.

>>180548823
>>180548936
let's hope that it's not gonna happen or it'll be soap opera dramas over again.

>>180549061
Well anon I don't wantit to be happen either but cover art >>180525993 now includes this man (probably) >>180526315 and considering Rachel's getting mad at that scene, it leads us to that theory.

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>>180549242
>>180525993
now I'm confused. they added Rachel's head so maybe yeah he is her dad.

or I also can't help but think this man is Sean Prescott. but wtf would he have anything to do with them?

one thing for sure though, he is badguy.

>>180549242
That's so fucking tenuous.

Grow a brain.

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>>180549404
>I also can't help but think this man is Sean Prescott
I don't think so.

>>180549404
>RA
>RACHEL AMBER

>>180549061
There's "literally zero" evidence supporting any speculation on what her family secret may be. But the man and woman meeting under the tree (which is also the burning tree) clearly concern Rachel. The woman in the white dress also appears to have made it onto the bundle cover thing.

>>180549518
thanks for reminding me this pic anon, I literally forgot it.

then he's really Rachel's dad or someone that obsessed with Rachel which's related with her family's secret.

>>180549432
Again, I don't want it to happen either.
And even if they'll do that, I hope they won't forget to at least some supernatural mystery.

>>180549636
He's literally just to the fucking side of Rachel. It doesn't equate to obsession, or her father.

If it was her father, it doesn't mean it was the same person from beneath the tree, and if it is, then it isn't necessarily a part of the family secret.

>>180549717
I'm saying that your reasoning is tenuous. I don't want some dumb supernatural addition, either, or anything related to the Prescotts. That peripheral bullshit is so over-emphasized.

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Explain this.

but what's sup with the Illuminati shit?

>>180549941
nobody wants some *dumb* supernatural addition, other than a deep plot with mystery.

i really want to believe that Rachel's family secret is more than ''daddy's cheating'' like some native american spirits etc. etc. but if it only turns out that drama, well I'll be so disappointed.

>>180549242
I have no issues with the assumption that the people on the new cover are Rachel's parents. But otherwise there's really nothing to suggest cheating.

People are only suggesting it because Rachel SEEMS to get annoyed in the pre-release footage after watching the couple under the tree. This is unjustified, as there's an obvious cut in the footage, we literally have zero idea what Rachel was so pissed off about.

The cut in the footage itself makes it unlikely that Rachel is pissed about the couple under the tree. The cut implies one of two things:

1) The girls went on to look at something else after looking at that couple, and this extra stuff was cut for time. In which case, the couple isn't why Rachel's pissed.

2) Something important happened in that moment, or something important was said, which was cut for spoilers. However, the fact that Chloe acts totally clueless and surprised about Rachel suddenly getting pissy suggests that this isn't the case, or that it isn't in reference to the couple. If it were, Chloe would be asking about it, not acting totally dumb.

It's just such a weird stretch, there's literally no compelling evidence to suggest that any of this is the case. People are literally pulling it out of the ass and running whole-cloth, all while ignoring that obvious cut in the footage.

And lets look at it from a meta-perspective. Why would Deck Nine be inadvertently spoiling plot details in their pre-release example footage? There's obviously a few other details to examine in that scene, why wouldn't they pick the random non-plot examples for showcase? Granted it's literally impossible to know that were the case even if it were, but why would they show it regardless?

>>180549618
As above, no, this isn't "clearly" the case at all.

>>180550110
They are in everywhere anon

>>180549956
It's indicative of either Rachel, as a trickster, and transforming chameleonic character, or Rachel's impending death.

>>180550181
>As above, no, this isn't "clearly" the case at all.
Watch the gameplay again. Rachel points the binocular at them, taking over control which Chloe points out. Then she zooms into the scene and stares intently at it.

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>>180550194
So damn adorable

>>180550181
>all while ignoring that obvious cut in the footage.
Yeah you're making good points. Actually nothing's certain at this point, but when you look at that man and cover art in pic they (t.liar) seem similar and Rachel's actions in there makes you think (again they probably cut that scene because it couldn't be that short, but who knows)


> Why would Deck Nine be inadvertently spoiling plot details in their pre-release example footage?
The thing is we weren't even know if it was spoiler or not.Because they never pointed out if that man was her dad or not rather than giving ''family secret'' hint.

>>180550172
We don't need a deep plot with mystery.

I don't think it'll be supernatural, but it'll be drama in a non-soap opera fashion. A complicated social/criminal mystery in her family, based around the characters.

BTS looks like it's brimming with forgettable, throw-away characters perfect for a dumb mystery.

I'm honestly in it for interesting character study, with Chloe, and her psychological state, and the meaning, and metaphor therein, and thereof. I care only for her character insights, and relationship with Rachel.

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>game only takes Chloe's kiss as Max's first,important kiss
tell me one good reason to not adore these dorks...u can't

>>180550750
>We don't need a deep plot with mystery.
actually I need it. I mean, it doesn't have to center of story but I don't want them to forget all of these spiritual doe things etc.
because strange things were happenin' in arcadia bay (i remember deck9's developers said there will be strange elements)
of course we're gonna play this game to invest in Rachel and Chloe's past their relationship, overcoming issues together. but I don't want them to turn everything to full cliché or turn her family's issue like basic cheating thing.
that man doesn't seem good, and liar also confirms it. there's something important about him,indeed.

>>180550950
What happens if you don't kiss Chloe?
I kissed Chloe in all of my playthroughs so I don't know what is shown during the nightmare sequence.

>>180551219
it shows it again but still sees it as key moment.
back then in episode 4, she types something like she regretted she didn't kiss her in her journal

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>>180550743
>but when you look at that man and cover art in pic they (t.liar) seem similar
Well fuck. I'll eat some humble pie.

So I went and rewatched the scene, and now I've kinda done a 180. The hair on the guy in the scene seems to match up with the guy on the new cover (note the white patch on the side). And watching Rachel's reaction as she spots them, followed by Chloe commenting on Rachel's trying to push in to get a closer look ("Sorry for hogging the viewfinder") is stronger than I remembered. Though it's a little difficult to judge based on her facial expression alone, they're still a little static. Also interesting to note how the establishing shots of the scene focus a fair bit on the woman in question.

So, fuck it, I agree, it does look like that couple is what Rachel is reacting to. What's the deal with the cut in the footage is still a mystery though, it doesn't look like they go to look at anything else, so presumably there's a a line of dialogue or something cut?

And while it's still not totally clear who the guy is, I'd agree that Rachel's father is probably the best bet. The woman with her face blanked out in the cover seems to be the same woman from the scene (the hair seems to match, as does the cut of the dress ... but I really can't tell if the woman in the scene is wearing the same necklace).

I really hope there's more to it all than just cheating, especially if the "mystery" for Episode 2 and beyond is just Rachel wanting to track down who the mystery woman is. I don't really want a game whose premise is based around the RV scene in Episode 3.

But, eh, I guess this might teach us where Rachel got her cheating tendencies from?

Fuck life.

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>>180552076
Also, I joked a few threads ago about the woman in that scene being who Chloe got her tattoo inspiration from. So if it turns out that she is indeed relevant to the game's story, there's a real chance this might be true.

It also looks like she might have a butterfly tattoo on the other arm. Damnit.

>>180552076
>Fuck life.
Hahaha that was totally my reaction after realizing this. Fangirls' (except this anon >>180534719) shitty theory really got real, eh?

I guess the problem is we are expecting too much,extraordinary things. However developers come up with plain logic, basic issues.

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>>180552076
>But, eh, I guess this might teach us where Rachel got her cheating tendencies from?
fucking kek.

>>180552220
>Also, I joked a few threads ago about the woman in that scene being who Chloe got her tattoo inspiration from
this went too far I don't think it'll happen but who knows? I'm not gonna make fun of your theories anymore. because whenever I do, shit gets real

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>>180552076
>they really spoiled us in pre-release footage
>Rachel's family secret turned out his daddy's secret
lock me in to the dark room. I don't want to live anymore...

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>>180546618
Awesome! A bit of a shift in Afterlaugh's style but it still looks great.
Max was never entirely flat to begin with, though she's definitely more grown there, she just wore clothes that covered her figure where as Chloe's accentuated hers a little bit.

Pricefield in Seattle episode when?

>>180552369
I can't believe you (?) people who thought Rachel got pissed off because Chloe was making a prostitute joke. Like c'mon!

>>180552076
>Rachel got her cheating tendencies from?
There is literally zero evidence that Rachel cheated on anyone.

>>180552768
Actually I didn't.

I thought it was because they cut the scene like the other anon said. I was thinking something else entirely, like Rachel was kind of person who is unbalanced,gets mad for no reason etc.

>>180552768
Nobody thought that though. Everyone thought there was something more serious/substantial being hidden by the cut in the footage.

>>180552793
Wasn't she still with Frank while she was hooking up with Jefferson? I know there were threats of her breaking up with him, but I didn't think they actually did?

I'm not believing for a second that Rachel's only problem and "family secret" is that her dad is cheating on her mom.
Maybe that's part of it but there's got to be more than that. That wouldn't make Rachel say she couldn't be friends.

>>180552793
>ditched Frank that easy (nathan also said she was with her because of the money, but who believes nathan right?)
>nathan has her bracelet
>it's unknown if she gave hope to Chloe (..Frank said he was jealous over their relationship,understand why Rachel digs into her..hm)
>eventually she run into Jefferson's arms
in gameplay video Chloe also pointed that she is always acting,playing mind games with people. but she is flirty for sure.

If my "Rachel keeps trying to photojump to prevent her parents from cheating, and she doesn't want to make friends with Chloe because she doesn't want to get attached to all the alternate-timeline Chloes" crack-theory turns out to be true, I'm going to riot.

>>180553051
>Nobody
Right...

>>180553154
she was with him* sry

>>180553051
>Wasn't she still with Frank while she was hooking up with Jefferson?
No evidence to suggest this.

>>180553154
Again, no evidence that she has ever cheated on anyone.

But I guess the original anon was more so making a half-joke, and I would agree that it is fair to say her love life seemed secretive enough to have "cheating" tendencies.

>>180553235
Uhh, well, I certainly didn't see anyone making that argument?

>>180553205
I hope this comes true though because I don't want it just to focus on cheating thing.

>>180553073
I want to believe that too anon but evidences say otherwise.

>That wouldn't make Rachel say she couldn't be friends.
she said those words while she was mad though.

>>180553293
i was pointing out her relationships actually.for cheating.. her name's really involved with many people in-game.

but again, she is certainly a people pleaser; who's flirty,faking towards people,doesn't show her real reactions/feelings (except chloe,probably this game'll show it)

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>>180553293
>No evidence to suggest this.
I mean, if there's no mention that they broke up, then yeah, that would imply they were still together when Rachel vanished. But I can't recall if they broke up or not, there's a vague memory in my head of something relating to that, but I just don't remember.

>and I would agree that it is fair to say her love life seemed secretive enough to have "cheating" tendencies.
Yeah, I think this still holds true even if I'm wrong about the above. The fact that she was running around having secret relationships behind Chloe's back (who was supposed to be her best friend?) implies, even if not "cheating", that she was kind of going behind backs.

And if we take BtS as canon, given that Chloe almost goes full-lesbian on Rachel in that junkyard scene we saw - on literally the first day they spent together - it's hard to imagine that Rachel didn't pick up on Chloe's feelings after several more years of friendship.

Chloe's thirsty af.

Can Max beat Dio? /v/ is having a big debate on this.

>>180553690
No Max get speed blitzed.
Why is that even a debate?
I mean Max is town level but thats only by cause and effect.

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>E3_6B_InsideRV_PicturesOfRachel_SP05="Frankie B.Hope you read this first thing in the morning. Sorry about last night.I was being a monstrous bitch and took it out on you. And poor Pompidou.There's a lot of weird shit going on in my life and sometimes I feel like I'm never going to get out of Arcadia Bay. Thank god for you.You're one of the best things I have here and I smile when I think of us together.Let's just drive out of here forever,Love u always (heart) RA -"

>E3_6B_InsideRV_PicturesOfRachel_SP06="Frank,That was not cool what you did. And don't blame the drugs. You actually scared me and I thought you'd never chill out. I've never seen you act that way and the next time will be the last. I'm a Leo and we don't look back. I care about you, us, so maybe we need to break our routine. xo RA -"

>Cue_E3_6B_Diner_CHNathan_Puzzle_Nathan_056="So? Rachel wanted Frank's stash. She let him take pictures... Then he carries around her photo like she posed for love. Dumbass."

>Cue_E3_6B_Diner_CHNathan_Puzzle_Nathan_048="Eventually he will. Guy is into some freaky shit. He told me he once took a weird blood oath for Rachel... Uh, forget I told you that. Seriously."

>Cue_E3_6B_Diner_CHNathan_Puzzle_Nathan_054="Blood oath? Who—? What the fuck? I never told anybody about that freaky shit... Besides, everybody knows Frank is a liar and a loser. Even Rachel did..."
>Cue_E5_5C_Diner_CHFrank_FrankDial_Frank_032="I knew Chloe and her... were close... I was jealous..."
>Cue_E5_5C_Diner_CHFrank_FrankDial_Frank_034="Rachel cared about a lot of people... especially Chloe..."
>Cue_E5_5C_Diner_CHFrank_FrankDial_Frank_035="But, uh... now I see why Rachel dug her... and Chloe was man enough to ask me for help after all that shit we went through."

I don't know what to believe anymore.

>>180527315
Remember that the homeless lady behind the diner is Max stuck in time for 1000 years

>>180554489
mari pls

>>180553612
>that would imply they were still together when Rachel vanished
That would be lack of evidence to the contrary, but not evidence that she cheated. In the letter to Frank, she says that "the next time will be the last" and that they should "break their routine". Now this could be referring to their drug routine? But in that same letter, she also says it wasn't the drugs that upset her. So I'd always taken that to be her putting their relationship on hold.

Dunno, just saying that's not evidence that she was cheating.

>that she was kind of going behind backs
At least Chloe's. But being aware of Chloe's feelings might very well be the reason why she did. Then again, she did want to tell Chloe about the new guy, Jefferson as we now know, and that letter doesn't really read like Rachel was all too aware or at least cautious of Chloe's feelings (she tells her about "hooking up" with that guy, for one thing).

As for Chloe's "more than friendship" thing in the junkyard... I guess it's possible to imagine that they could have had something briefly romantical together during that period of their life, that Rachel later grew out of and thought Chloe did the same?

>>180553543
The closer you zoom onto the face on the cover, the older it looks. Those creases around the eyes and nose and stuff... Initially, he looked way too young to be her dad.

>>180554850
wait.

was that letter in junkyard really about Jefferson? or Frank?

Pompidou knew Rachel. Franck still had some of Rachel's stuff. Pompidou could have tracked Rachel

>>180554975
Jefferson. Confirmed by the devs.

>>180554975
Jefferson. At least that's what they'd said in an official stream once.

>>180553543
Fuck. I get it now, that woman is Rachels love interest AND her dads.

>>180554850
>>180554975
If you guys want to read letter, here:

>"You can tell how much I want you to read this letter since I've been dragging my ass to give it to you. Maybe I just want you to find it when I'm not around so we never have to talk about it. And I don't want you to hate me. Where to start? I met somebody recently who's so different from the lame Vortex Club snobs. I know you'll have a meltdown when I tell you and think he's gross, but I swear he's wise and unconventional. Kind of scary, not in a "bad boy" way. He's just experienced some serious shit. Yes, I'm kinda obssessed (sic). I won't blame you for freaking.\n \nMaybe I know you're right and this just has to be my secret. I hate not sharing this with you except I know you'd give me that stink eye and grill me for every stupid detail. If I even told you that last night we hooked up near campus (...)"

I have one question though.
Did she disappear after this letter? Because I remember Chloe said she would've told her leaving, if something didn't happen to Rachel..

>>180555232
Pompidou: Found her! woof woof Pompidou happy so many bones to play with!!

>>180555350
>dad is cheating on my mom with my prostitu- girlfriend!
Burning tree? Nah. She'd burn whole world if this happened.

>>180555406
Isn't it implied that the note is unfinished, or it's a draft or something? Chloe obviously doesn't know about it, so it doesn't really matter much either way. And in the end, we know that Rachel vanished because of Nathan, not Jefferson, so her vanishing isn't directly tied to the note either.

>>180555406
We don't know when the letter is dated. Weirdly enough, they decided to put a piece of paper with the numbers "1337" with the letter, which also appear on the train... but either way, Chloe knew that Rachel "met someone that changed her life, and then just vanished". But we do know that she couldn't have read that letter. So Rachel must have told her about the person at a later point.

>>180555307
>>180555296
oh ok thanks.

>>180555406
seems like Rachel knows that Chloe's getting jelly over her relationships. giving stink eye, would find him gross etc. etc.

how the fuck Rachel managed to burn the tree?

>>180555581
It also makes sense with the tattoo, chloe gets it because she wants to be like someone Rachel is attracted to.

>>180555775
Fire powers

>>180555406
"but I swear he's wise and unconventional. Kind of scary, not in a "bad boy" way. He's just experienced some serious shit"

Jefferson: "Rachel, I was beaten as a kid, my parents died in a car accident while I was young, I was broke and then I suffered from a cancer but somehow I managed to make it through and to become a famous photographer".
Rachel: "that's so impressive, you're my new hero! I love you!"
Jefferson: "thank you. You know I'm quite shy but you're really pretty Rachel, would you mind erm... posing for me?" (fake a blush)
Rachel: "no biggie! You're so awesome I would do anything for you *giggles*"
Jefferson: "anything, huh? Just kidding haha!" *a large and ominous grin appears on his face after Rachel turned around to leave*

>>180555670
>Chloe obviously doesn't know about it,
You mean she doesn't know about the letter? if so there's no way that she didn't see it.

>>180555694
>"met someone that changed her life, and then just vanished".
I guess it'd make more sense that she never seen her after this letter.

>>180555707
If she wasn't blind (I don't think she was) she could see Chloe was having crush on her.

>>180554850
>As for Chloe's "more than friendship" thing in the junkyard...
by the way, community manager on stream said it's up to player:''The relationship between Chloe and Rachel that's up to the player.'' should we take him seriously while it was obvious in original game or..

>>180556001
>I guess it'd make more sense that she never seen her after this letter.
Max thinks to herself that it's better Chloe doesn't know about the letter. Now of course those are Max's thoughts, but from a meta-perspective, it is confirmation of what is already pretty much established. I mean, Chloe freaked out when she learned that there was something between Rachel and Frank. If she had read a letter in which Rachel tells her about sleeping with some guy, I think Chloe would have been... more prepared for such an eventuality.

As >>180555670 says, it doesn't really matter when Rachel wrote that letter. We know when and why she disappeared, and that it didn't have to do with Jefferson. Not directly, anyway.

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>>180555406 >>180555694
>"Before Rachel left, she said she met somebody who changed her life... Then poof."
yeah, she vanished after that letter.

What if Rachel reincarnates into Kate? We've never seen any pictures of Kate when she was young and there's no hint that she exists during Before the Storm.

>>180556001
>if so there's no way that she didn't see it.
It's balled up in the corner, isn't it?

But yeah, I think it's a given that Chloe doesn't know about it. A note seemingly from shortly before she vanished, talking about a mysterious stranger - with a dangerous side - who Rachel had started hooking up with? And she doesn't ever mention this to Max during any of their investigationing and/or discussions about Rachel's disappearance, despite this person being an obvious suspect?

>>180556172
Didn't the devs say that Chloe's feelings about Rachel are pretty much set in stone, it's just about how the player chooses to express them? Like how in the junkyard scene you could choose between "friends" and "something more".

>>180556246
>Max thinks to herself that it's better Chloe doesn't know about the letter.
I missed it.

> If she had read a letter in which Rachel tells her about sleeping with some guy, I think Chloe would have been... more prepared for such an eventuality.
Ow yeah that's also true. But isn't that weird for Chloe to not find that letter in their hideout? Also she knew Rachel vanished after she met with someone but also said ''she would've told her while she was leaving'' that's why I related everything to letter.Now I'm confused a little.

>>180556508
>Didn't the devs say that Chloe's feelings about Rachel are pretty much set in stone, it's just about how the player chooses to express them? Like how in the junkyard scene you could choose between "friends" and "something more".
garriss said them in his newest interviews he was like.. more open-minded. >>180344490

but when I watched >>180542659 this stream I was like wtf. this cuck toby acts like he owns this game and literally said different things comparing to lead writer.

>>180556172
As I've said, I think it's possible that they did have something romantical together around that time. They were 16, having fun, Chloe was looking for love and Rachel the first that apparently gave her some. Rachel certainly seemed fairly into it, with her "take a girl out" comment. Maybe they had a brief summer stint, but it didn't hold. Chloe kept holding on to that, and the idea that one day there could be something real between them. I have my own thoughts on why she never acted on her feelings later on, but I don't think it's impossible to go with a quasi-romantical or even outright-romantical route for their relationship at that time. Deck Nine did say that they went as far back precisely because they wanted to tell a story people didn't know, wouldn't expect.

As for the "up to the player" thing, I am with you. I really hope that, similarly to the original, the story knows its characters feelings, and doesn't let us choose where and what they are, just their expression, to an extent or another.

>>180556670
>Now I'm confused a little.
LiS does that sometimes. Various things surrounding Rachel and especially her disappearance are cause for confusion. Some of it intentionally, some of it just for plot convience (indeed, why would nobody search the hideout, not even Chloe; why didn't the FBI as much as ask Chloe, or search the place?).

>>180556978
>LiS does that sometimes (..) (indeed, why would nobody search the hideout, not even Chloe; why didn't the FBI as much as ask Chloe, or search the place?).

Sometimes we're forgetting this game was directed by Imagination lord kek. Thanks for giving details, I really forgot some of them.

I want to interpret it as Rachel quickly told her she found somebody who changed her life without giving any details (for Chloe's sake) and before Chloe could find answers,she disappeared. Yeah I guess this one fits well.

>>180556850 >>180556978
Chloe's feelings obviously should be in set in stone because it was obvious she was having crush on Rachel. What the hell does mean it's up to player?

Pricefield btfo

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>>180557438
after your serious attempts, finally you managed to get (you)
congrats

>>180557381
>I want to interpret it as Rachel quickly told her she found somebody who changed her life without giving any details (for Chloe's sake) and before Chloe could find answers,she disappeared. Yeah I guess this one fits well.
Pretty much.

>What the hell does mean it's up to player?
Could just be Toby Face-Palm making marketing statements (you can totally ship them!), that work along the lines of the player being able to choose not what Chloe's feelings are, but how she expresses them, and in turn changing how Rachel responds to them. Chloe does stutter at the "friendship" bit, so I think they will make it obvious to at the very least the player that she is harboring romantical feelings for Rachel.

>>180556978
>>As for the "up to the player" thing, I am with you. I really hope that, similarly to the original, the story knows its characters feelings, and doesn't let us choose where and what they are, just their expression, to an extent or another.
Yep. Like Warren friendzoned no matter what after 5 minutes

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>>180556978
>"That choice moment isn't a question of Chloe necessarily deciding what her sexuality is," lead writer Zak Garris explained. "It's: what does she tell Rachel? What does she voice?"
Which one's should be taken seriously? beta cuck community manager or game's lead-writer?

>>180557802
He isn't admitting it, but this beta cuck community manager is always browsing /lisg/ in case you didn't know.

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>>180557723
Funny thing is even main game developers, Dontnod's group//game director Michel-Luc openly admitted that Max and Chloe's relationship is ultimate. Even they are the ones who left those journal entries interpreations to the game.

This SE staff Toby facePalm though, he's got some issues on admitting it and acting like he owns this game while all he does is being on social media.He thinks this game is some RPG character. Is bullshitting that really worth for marketing?

>>180557802
Garriss is the one person inspiring confidence in the project, for me.

Deck Nine did say they were "working" with the Square team responsible for LiS, which would include Face-Palm... but they also said the entire conception, high to low to front, was "entirely Deck Nine" and their team of writers. So I really doubt Toby's had much of any influence on much of anything actually in the game. So let him talk his "hip-with-the-kids" marketing talk, I don't think Deck Nine will have made it a dating sim. They are exploring these characters and their relationship in what I expect to be respectful and interesting fashion. Which includes a romantical angle no matter what. I still have my doubts and fears, but I am pretty confident that it will not be whatever Toby's maybe made it out to be.

Okay a belgian podcast pretended to get some leaks regarding the season 2. Obviously it should be taken with a pinch of salt but it doesn't give too much information to sound fake:
- the game takes place in the US, but somewhere in the East Coast this time
- Two playable characters this time, the lead being female. They don't know for the second one.
- The characters will be slightly more aged (university?)
- New power which will connect strongly with max's powers. They don't know what it really means either
- It will be episodic
- their source wouldn't tell them when the game will take place. Could it be before LiS and then explain somehow Max's powers?

>>180557719
>Could just be Toby Face-Palm making marketing statements (you can totally ship them!), that work along the lines of the player being able to choose not what Chloe's feelings are, but how she expresses them, and in turn changing how Rachel responds to them. Chloe does stutter at the "friendship" bit, so I think they will make it obvious to at the very least the player that she is harboring romantical feelings for Rachel.

He never let that new game-director speak exactly. By the way, that's what totally said in her interviews as this anon >>180557802 pointed out. But in stream that cuck is literally talking otherwise and game-director was totally approves him.

What I've seen from gameplay, she totally stuttered while saying friendship so no matter what we choose she'd type her letter her real interpreations,that's what sounds reasonable. They said their relationship was ambigious but we just don't know if Rachel applied those feelings,yet,we DO know Chloe had feelings for Rachel. I don't know how come is this ''up to player'' while we've seen it first LiS game.


>>180557935
This fucker also never mentioned 4chan. He only mentioned where do his shit-eaters exist; steam forums,facebook,youtube,reddit ''also some other places''

I hope he visits here though. To open his goddamn eyes.

>>180558225
It would confirm what Dontnod said "new characters and location"

>New power which will connect strongly with max's powers

that part is intriguing

>>180558225
where did you hear that

>>180555779
Chloe's tattoo is pure Chloe. She wouldn't do something permanent like that just to seem more attractive to Rachel.
That's something she probably put a lot of planning into.
I think people are taking this Rachel's parents thing and Chloe's (possible) words way too far without having any real evidence.

>>180558225
Aliens or gods are behind Max's powers. I knew it! !

>>180558225
>the game takes place in the US, but somewhere in the East Coast this time

pls be New England

>>180558775
>I think people are taking this Rachel's parents thing and Chloe's (possible) words way too far without having any real evidence.
I agree that the idea that Chloe's got the inspiration for her tattoo from that woman is a little silly (as of now), and the idea that Rachel is romantically interested in that woman and that's why Chloe got the tattoo is outright ridiculous, but come on, that's what we do, speculation. It's fun, and silly speculation is sometimes even more fun.

See how Chloe accidentally got her tattoo on the wrong arm? The woman has the sleeve on her left arm, Chloe's got hers on her right. That's why she and Rachel never worked out!

>>180558218
> Toby's had much of any influence
he is just a community manager,who's so desperate to marketing game with bullshits he made up.
but it really annoyed me that his denying writer's intentions.

I hope they DON'T fuck it up this time.

>>180559132
it actually makes sense. The devs were quite criticized in France for being French and making a game completely in English taking place in the US. By choosing the other coast they may create connections with France or even put French speaking characters. It could definitely happen in New England

>>180558225
>- It will be episodic
no shit

> their source wouldn't tell them when the game will take place. Could it be before LiS and then explain somehow Max's powers?
they said they're not gonna touch Max and Chloe's story ever again. so I doubt that.

>- Two playable characters this time, the lead being female. They don't know for the second one.
this could be interesting though.

>>180558225
It all seems shit.

>>180559434
>this could be interesting though.
That could also explain why they didn't make Rachel and Chloe playable in BTS. Dontnod may have "compelled" SE to keep this idea for themselves, so that their game is innovative

The way the prequel was described about Rachel and Chloe was how I thought it would be and exactly how it needs to be. You're not changing the past and re-writing the future, you're just getting more insight in Chloe's past and more context for what her words about Rachel mean. You have some choices but they are just about to the extent Chloe lets he feelings be known and how much she keeps to herself, as well as just how impulsive/reckless she really is.
I view the whole thing like it's Chloe telling the story to Max at some point in the future. It doesn't change what we know happened and what will happen, it's just elaborating.

>>180535524
kys nathan is /ourguy/ chloe is a stupid bitch who deserved every shit that happened to her

>>180559934
Chloe telling Max all about how she met Rachel during the beginning of episode 4. Max doesnt remember because she were in the other universe dealing with wheelchair Chloe so it was autopilot Max who heard the story.

>>180559726
Especially after this prequel and farewell episode with different team thing, I get the feeling that someday Dontnod'll part their ways with SE

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>>180560036
>retarded Nathan
>''our''guy
you kinda came to the wrong neighborhood,cuck

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>>180560072
I've seen that idea before, but I prefer that it's Chloe talking to Max some time after the storm. It's clearly important to Chloe so they both deserve to hear, know, and remember a conversation and story like that.
For Chloe to open up for but for max to not be there seems unfair to me.

>Two playable characters !
> Powers connected to Max's powers!

Gimmick, gimmicks, keep them coming!

Go fuck yourself, Don'tnod. Just leave season one as Life is Strange.

>>180560489
R-ddit: the post.

>>180560616
>knows what's going on r-ddit
hmmm

>>180560570
The fuck are you talking about?

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>>180560036
>nathan is /ourguy/
If he is yourguy then you are not man enough just as him.

>>180560791
The alleged season two "information", if it's to be believed.

>>180560924
It does sound more believable that some crazy stuff I read everywhere. The connection stuff would be Michel's idea though

>>180560570
I wouldn't take it as if was legit

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>>180560918
Where hell do you think you are?

>>180560918
Over half the fanart for this game is from tumblr you fucking newfag.

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>>180560918
>hurr durr qt lesbian relationship relates with tumblr
faggot pls.

Two playable characters could be really interesting, especially if they both have some feelings for each other.
You could try to just keep them as friends, or you could realize those feelings and push them closer together. Taking turns to have each of them make a move. Over time the characters feelings become clear and they act on their own with regards to romantic stuff.
Also creates the potential for some cool puzzles and ideas if you can freely switch between them. Maybe different endings depending on which one you play more of, assuming the times you play as each aren't per-determined.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/06/23/netflix-introduces-choose-your-own-adventure-style-movies

LIS interactive Netflix series when?

>>180560918
>drumpf
Pot calls kettle black etc

>>180561393
Oh, Jesus. Kill yourself, you fucking retarded, failed abortion.

>RPG puzzle simulator

>>180561442
Never,hopefully.

>>180561526
>RPG
Not when characters have defined personalities and feelings independent of what the player wants them to be.
>Puzzle
Original game had them.
>Simulator
Pick up a dictionary and then hit yourself in the head with it until you cease being conscious.

is Hannah involved in the union strike?

>>180561393
yeah that could be interesting,controlling two characters,their relationship between them etc. that'd definitely bring innovation to game mechanics


>>180561671
why are bothering yourself to reply that troll though

>>180561671
If you're choosing the actions that lead to romance, on both sides, you're ruining half of the tension.

You explore a character's feelings, examine the dialogue options, and then air that to the non-playable character, from whom the reaction is part of tension, and enjoyment. It comes from not being fully conscious of their feelings.

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Chloe telling Max her story about Rachel would probably be really hard at times. Equal amounts of smiling & laughing and feeling angry & crying.
Would definitely require some Maxhugs afterwards. But I'm sure it's something Chloe would like to tell, to let it all off her chest about Rachel and to let Max know the full story about everything.

>>180521389
I began playing LiS a month ago. Loving every second and currently in episode 4. I haven't spoiled myself on much and I'll be leaving this thread right after posting, but I just wanted to say that that whole part about saving Chloe's father, but then she's bedbound as a collateral accident, and not being unable to undo Chloe's accident to save her AND keep her father alive is bullshit. BULLSHIT.

>>180562005
Just wait, the BULLSHIT gets even deeper. By the end you will be drowning in it.
But go play and finish the game and then come back here to rant.

>>180561901
A dumb innovation, basically making dolls kiss each other.

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So what do you think, who would vote for who in 2016 presidential election, this is my guess:
Chloe - Hillary
Max - Hillary
Kate - Trump
David - Trump
Joyce - Trump
Jefferson - Hillary
Victoria - Hillary
Frank - Trump
Dana - Trump
Warren - Trump
Juliet - Hillary
Alyssa - Hillary
Brooke - Hillary
Stella - Hillary
Wells - Trump
Daniel - Hillary
Michelle - Hillary
Samuel - Hillary
Trevor - Trump
Justin - Trump
Logan - Trump
Hayden - Trump