/scg/edg/ Star Elite: Citizen Dangerous General #172

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also nox

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>>180426908
and no evocati :^)

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>>180426908
I am not going to be tempted to give up my dragonfly for this right?

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>warp into system on delivery run
>destination hub is a gorillion light seconds away
>40 minutes travel in real time
>mission expires before I can get there

>>180429460
i think it's race bike vs. cruiser, 1 seater "look at how fast i am" vs saddlebags and a friend (implying)

>>180432140
Yeah that's not a thing anymore.
Did you buy a mug while you were there?

Frontier, why did you delete my engineered shit?

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>>180427049
yep, and the fact they didn't just say "next week" again or actually update the schedule with a new date makes me think this will be the big "Oops, we've been lying this whole time and we're actually months behind where we need to be to even start testing 3.0" announcement soon

>>180426908
no patch this week, ,but the ship.jpg sale will be right on fucking time as always.

Also I wonder if they'll be nice enough to actually tell us if this thing uses the same amount of space as a dragonfly, if it needs it's own unique docking mount etc before the sale starts

>frontier removes all exploit rolls
>half of the GCI pissed off as fuck and swearing to move onto SC/EVE/Dual Universe
>carebear explorers who used it for best drives also pissed
Exodus when?

>>180442186
>A better developer would take this as a sign that players fucking hate rng mods and that should instead they should change the system so you can chose the exact mods you want but with higher mat costs

>>180442186
Does Dual even have sort of playable content, even by Star Citizen standards yet?

>>180442454
Not yet, but hopefully it will. And there are games like it already out (Starmade, which is DU that looks like minecraft and has servers), so it should work.

>>180442340
FDev are fucking stupid though, and their stupidity is the reason a lot of the PVP community, including me, switched to EVE Online.

>>180426908
Seems pretty fat. The Dragonfly main body is quite small, but this thing looks like a brick.

>>180448507
I'd assume they need it have roughly the same footprint as the dragonfly for rigging and placement purposes so it needs to be close to the DF's full size including it's hover pads

>>180442186
They did? Hilarious. Maybe I'll start playing again.

>>180426908
What is that!?

>>180451840
New spacebike. Going on concept sale tomorrow, but apparently it's still going to be in 3.0?

>>180449223
Remember that the Dragonfly folds up for transport. The Nox is going to be a good deal smaller than th Dragonfly.

When is CIG gonna make it so ships don't maneuver like they're made of cardboard?

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>NPCs always shoot your weapons down.

>>180452743
That silhouette looks sexy as goddamn fuck. More so than the fucking Dragonfly.
Who's the manufacturer, do we know?

>>180441990
This.

2.6 Came out at the very beginning of this year, we've had it for 6 months without 3.0 coming and they keep stripping features out of it. All it makes me think is they're scrambling to get SOMETHING out to make them not look totally incompetent and still failing at that

>>180454710
Aopoa, a Xi'an manufacturer. Same people who make the Khartu-Al.

>>180441990
>they didn't update the schedule before the day they update the schedule
no shit, retard.

>>180454789
2.0 came out Dec 2015. Aside from Grimhex, nothing has changed for over a year and a half. I'm loving the "open" development.

>>180454982
>Same people who make the Khartu-Al.
So it's gonna be shit, like all the other alien ships.

So I'm guessing the Nox would fit in a Hull B right?

>>180455297
>in
>a Hull B
"no"
I don't think they're gonna go with their "you can load ships into cargo crates" idea they mentioned around the time the Hull series came out either.

>>180426908

>Dragonflies and wicked space bikes
>for the price of snubs and no toe capability

Why not just taking the ship near the loots and load them?

>>180455297
>>180455375
The D'fly was shown for the first time in a crate. It wouldn't be unreasonable, but they only have size 1 containers now, so maybe when they have containers large enough.

>>180455436

>*towing capability

Also "ah shit the sniper killed me"

>>180455436
>what is racing
>what is fun
>what is aesthetic

>>180455563

>racing

On the ground? I hope you are right.

>the rest

Fun my ass! Whats the point of filling two thirds of a lancer's cargo with that thing if it offers no advantage?

>>180455662
>On the ground? I hope you are right.
There are open-canopy races where these are the only kinds of vehicles allowed.

>Whats the point of filling two thirds of a lancer's cargo with that thing if it offers no advantage?
It looks cool and bikes are fun to ride? Not everyone is an autistic min-maxer.

>>180455662
>Whats the point of filling two thirds of a lancer's cargo with that thing if it offers no advantage?
Don't you remember? The whole reason to have a ground vehicle was for the arbitrary "dangerous flight conditions" where you can't fly to your destination on a planet or moon. I'm not sure how that would apply to moons with no atmosphere, but there are still reentry animations when there is no atmosphere, so go figure.

>>180455887

>dangerous flight conditions

If thats true and flight is restricted, then towing hovers become important for land raiding. Problem is Im not seeing them carry boxes. Except the APC which is large as fuck.

>>180456034
>hey I know they don't even have basic cargo in the game yet but why don't they have this even more complicated mechanic yet
Can you stop being retarded for a minute?

>>180456034
>Problem is I'm not seeing them carry boxes.
That kind of is related to my curiosity about single seat ships without cargo like the racing ships. Is there going to be missions that don't require cargo space? Is recovering a black box a physical item, or just the data on it?

>>180456153

It was said in Q&A that no towing will be in the dragonfly and that it could carry just a shit box with a pair of weapons or something.

Therefore it carries shit. And the game needs a cargo version that actually fits in a lancer, because flying a caterpillar or a connie solo is expensive as balls and risky. Also the Misc Hulls cant load shit on the ground.

>why can't all the ships do everything???

My Harbinger can do everything!

>>180456293
>Also the Misc Hulls cant load shit on the ground.
Hulls would almost have to be able to carry a MPUV as cargo to be able to load thing from the surface or load from a station if the ship is already expanded and unable to dock.

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>>180456403

>*cough

>>180453830
hopefully never, the constellation and retaliator already handle like they're four times their size. Ships don't need to turn like a fucking overworked barge moving through half hardened concrete to have a sense of "weight" in a video game.

Personally I don't want to have the time to get up, take a piss, and heat up a hot pocket and sit back down while waiting for a multi-crew ship to turn 90 degrees

>>180456293

Buy a Taurus, put the fucking APC in it and you are gold.

>>180456543
>hopefully never, the constellation and retaliator already handle like they're four times their size.
Nigger what, the Constellation turns on a dime and handles like it's made entire of air.

>>180456615
On this flight model it feels like shit. The Connie used to be able to turn a lot faster and had much higher acceleration. It was pretty silly before. The crew would have been liquefied from the g force.

>>180456576

Might work. Its a hauler for almost the same price of a MAX.

>>180456485
Just imagine that thing in atmosphere.
Beautiful.

>>180454982
I meant, last time there was a evocati patch delay they publicly updated the schedule about it three full days before the patch was suppose to drop, and even set a new release date for it. This time they waited until they only had 24 hours to go, only told the evocati about it via private forum, and didn't even try to state a new release date, just a "we'll tell you more friday". Basically, they're clearly way more behind than any one thought and CIG is finally dropping the pretense that their schedule means jack shit.

>>180457028
>CIG is finally dropping the pretense that their schedule means jack shit.
It's always been an internal development schedule. The dates are targets, not promises.

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>>180457028
It's almost like there's no set "release date" for the Evocati patch.

>>180455436
not every place is going to be safe enough to land a ship at, and scanners wont be powerful enough to let you google maps the entire surface of a planet looking for shit.

Is there any significance to yesterday's commercial for AtV? Never seen that before. They must have been sitting on this one to have anything to show early for it.
>>180457028
Maybe you are reading a bit too deep. You know CIG would not say anything at all until they think they are close. Just mentioning it like that tacitly admits they are close. They would have pushed it last week otherwise.

>>180456245
data transport is a thing, so I'd assume you'd just download the data from the computer like the ICC missions already in game, but with longer travel time in-between.

>>180457028
>CIG says there's no evocati patch this week
>There's still an entire week left in their release window for the evocati patch
>hurr hurr CIG is way behind they don't have anything done the schedule is meaningless
Please kill yourself and don't breed.

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>>180457161

>Taurus+Ursa/lynx/whatever the fuck has space and guns

Found the land raiding combo. Problem is.. I suck at FPS's. Havent played one since fucking CS 1.6 lool.

>>180456615
Not since a few patches ago. it flies like a starfarer despite being nearly half the mass.

>>180457325
That raises another question of how much data can you carry without a "data" ship?

Has CIG shown us any concepts of gameplay?

It seems like every AtV is just ship art and technical art.

The last thing I remember is the golf-swing mechanic for scanning, but that was a year ago. There had to be something since then, right?

>>180457771
inb4 CIG scraps and reworks the entire cargo mechanic to give us Cargo 2.0 which can handle info

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https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/877646523705606144

>Trailer for shitty weekly show
What was meant by this?

>>180458493
only thing I can think of is the "internal thoughts" selection system, where you cursor over an intractable object and little prompts appear for you to click (ie open / close / shit yourself)

>>180458720
I'm pretty hyped for the interactable cockpits desu

>>180458664
trying to hype up the Nox sale for more $$$

>>180458765
to each his own, I just wanna fly the damn thing, not finger-fuck its toggles

I wish they'd save that stuff at least until the core gameplay is ironed out or until after release. Half of the ships still fly like bricks and need to be totally retuned

>ship customization

If they go the path of E:D or EvE (want new colors? give us 10 bucks) Im gonna die from an hearth attack.

Seriously, the faggotry with this one!

>>180458995
>want new colors? give us 10 bucks

CIG already does that

>>180459083

Yeah, but if they do once the game really starts to take shape... holy shit! Its not like they already broke a Guiness record with crowd funding or anything...

>>180457462
I really don't see how they're going to make raiding a thing

The "unsafe landing area" mechanic is silly bullshit that wouldn't make sense on most planets

Why would I land far away and drive to a target when I can just strafe it with my ship?

>>180459225

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE

>49:30
>all those boxes

If you could hire a npc pilot and then ask him to fly away to a safespot while you are searching some space wreck it would be awesome as well. One of my greatest fears is that you can get killed while on EVA.

>>180460012
I'm worried about getting my ship blasted while I'm exploring.

Hopefully it'll be easy to hide ships if they're not powered on.

Do we have a patcher now, or does the game still require we download the whole thing all over again?

>>180460664
That annoys me with the current PTU

I go into a space station and come out to find my ship gone

>so I steal someone elses

>>180461723
Well, I'm thinking it'll be less of an issue as the PU gets bigger. The universe and planets are so big, you probably won't run into other players out in the verse very often, unless you got interdicted, or someone was explicitly tailing you.

Still, it could be a problem with big questing areas. Hopefully CIG uses their new modular mission system to spread mission objectives for different players out a bit geographically.

>>180457771
No idea, but it seems like in 29XX, hard drives are so shitty and small that the Herald neesd literal server farms added to the inside it to be a specialized "data runner", even though you'd think 800 years in the future. even just the basic computers on any ship would be more than enough to hold as much data as any planet or cooperation would ever possibly need transported at one time.

Basically Star Citizen's technology runs on Dune/Warhammer 40k logic but without any of the actual backstory to explain why it's so ass backwards and the tech is WWII in space tier.

Waiting on the "Whoops! We're 3 months behind!" update this week.

>>180462243
The really pick kinda dumb aspects to use as their creative restraint.
>>180461849
The moons are supposed to be fucking huge. As long as there is some way to navigate to a specific place, finding a hiding spot should be easy. Also presuming a powered off ship is hard to find from far away.

The page is up for the new shitbucket, is anyone here Gold enough to view it though?

3.0 is releasing after gamescom.
screencap this.

>>180463126
I doubt they're that far behind although Gamescom is in August so they'd want to have it live before then. One thing that's kind of reassuring is it seems like CIG have a couple of star systems beyond Stanton in some form of development with them showing off the Solar System editor in ATV I really wonder how long it'll take CIG to connect up multiple systems to Stanton once they're done with the tech they need for functionable star systems.

>>180461849

You are thinking on just players. NPC's are also a problem.

>>180464805
It's pretty trivial to program NPCs to not be cockbags.

Land gear.

What are the advantages of having light armor over heavy? Not a word on this yet? Or does the game have just one class of armor (heavy) and three aesthetic options (flight, light and medium)?

>>180464982
Stamina.

>>180464859

NPC's should be EvE tier cockbags. That way everyone gets accustomed to the multiplayer environment fast. Its just that during those times when you need to go out in eva that shits gets tricky, therefore there must be ways of preventing that with some caution (powering down ships for low sig or having a NPC crew flying to a safespot and returning on command). Otherwise it will be grand theft ship.

>>180464982
running stamina vs damage protection

>>180465151

When you see someone while turning a corner, stamina means shit.

>>180465168
>NPCs should be EVE tier cockbags
This would piss the dads off so much, I fucking love it, and so would "Dread Pirate Roberts".

>>180465197

Are EVA speeds different for different armors?

>>180465279
>hurr durr muh evasion vs defense
Fuck off retard, they both have pros and cons. That's the point.

>>180465687

From what space stations and indoor wrecks look like in the PU, most of the engagements seem to be close quarters. Unless ofc you are camping with a sniper like an huge faggot, but that can be done with just any armor.

>>180465841
And what if you want to get away, instead of fighting?

>>180465548

I thought you E:D guys got interdicted by NPC's all the time.

>>180465932
I used to play ED, but I don't anymore, because I was part of PVP community and got fucking tired of all the grinding I had to do in order to be competitive
I went over to EVE, and trust me, ED NPCs have nothing on EVE players.
Like those dicks who spend all day in high security space sitting on popular stations and blapping anyone they're at war with who docks or undocks. Or that one guy who started a pseudo-religious campaign of suicide attacks against all miners. Or those cunts who sit in interdictors on popular null security stargates cloaked and only decloak, drop a bubble (item that shuts down FTL drives within 20km and pulls ships that pass near it out of warp) and engage when something they can kill shows up.

>>180457462

Those long range sensors of the DUR and the Aquila. What is it that they do exactly? Do you need those to find wrecks and derelicts?

>>180466524

>Or the recon gang who hides at a FW plex

Yeah yeah, I know the drill.

>>180466554
You don't need them, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier. Also jump points.

>>180466554
We don't know because CIG hasn't released anything about how they will actually work

the closest we got was a golf-swing mechanic that would be used to determine how well your scan went, so maybe those big sensors give you better range or an easier golf swing

>>180466671
I didn't bring that up, nor hot-drops(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY2cksmkT1M)/blops drops, because I do both of those things, and I only complain about things that I don't do.

>>180466554
>Those long range sensors of the DUR and the Aquila. What is it that they do exactly?

Make the ship look different

>>180464624
I think they'll at least have it to the open ptu stage by gamescom, even if it's still in a nigh unplayable state, just so they can say it's almost ready during the show.

>>180466524

Not sure about E:D, but EvE is indeed a grind. If you actually attempt to plex monthly now... holy shit, it is the mother of all grinds.

>>180464982
you won't be able to pilot ships in medium/heavy armor, supposedly.

Even though that would mean the Hornet's crazy fuck huge cockpit makes even *less* sense.

>>180468448
>Not sure about E:D, but EvE is indeed a grind. If you actually attempt to plex monthly now... holy shit, it is the mother of all grinds.
Yeah, there's a reason I pay the fucking sub. $15 a month isn't that much, and it means I don't have to do much grinding, because I know a few really good income sources that have been my source of ships, modules and ammo for a while now.
Gotta love being part of the alliance that controls the only place in New Eden where an extremely valuable implant drops.

>>180468463
Chris has no fucking idea how he wants the gameplay to work

He throws out a billion ideas like mechs and power armor and jump point sizes, but come implementation time shits the bed

ED's 15 dollars right now. Is that low enough to justify buying it, or should I wait until it finally drops to 10?

>>180469970
No. Avoid it like the fucking plague. It's a mile wide and an inch deep, there's absolutely fucking nothing to do except grind unless you're in a player group, and even then you have to do shittons of grinding to be able to do group activities.
Hell, try this instead.
https://www.star-made.org/
At least it's free. And not that bad, despite what it looks like.

>>180468967

If you pay sub, pvp is always cheap. Thats the reason I stopped playing. Too much grind and not so much fun (playing as a plexing freeloader ofc).

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>>180455887
>dangerous flight conditions where you can't fly to your destination on a planet or moon. I'm not sure how that would apply to moons with no atmosphere
>>180459225
>The "unsafe landing area" mechanic is silly bullshit that wouldn't make sense on most planets

You just lack imagination.
Plenty of way to do that, although some are trickier to code as game mechanic than other.

I'm hoping to moon to have crater or even hand-made cave where you can hide a ship.
civilized world could let low-key raiding truck slip but not allow spaceship in some airspace
some place could be defended by huge turret and shield (but not in a way practical to defend from ground attack)
In high PvP area you'll want to keep your ship in a safe place while you explore
on wild planet the place of interest might no have nice flat & smooth landing place for your 100m long Polaris/Caterpillar
I wouldn't land my ship around a GIANT WORM
or a volcano
it could simply be too bothersome to take the time to takeoff/land at regular interval when you could do all objective with a rover

and remember how there will be mechanic for air-reserve in spacesuit? It could be easier to refill in a close-by rover than a spaceship.
the above apply to any danger that a ship isn't efficient for

/armchair dev

>>180471393
>Plenty of way to do that, although some are trickier to code as game mechanic than other.

That's the problem. CIG is going the procedural route, and what you're talking about requires something more purpose-built. They don't have a good plan right now.

>>180457462

If the fucking Hull C could actually hold hard cargo instead of hanging boxes in its hooks it could be very well be useful for this sort of crap. But no, station trade only.

/vg/ has too many chatroom threads where it's just 5 people spamming images talking about non games.

>>180469970
Even if ED was free it would still not be worth it do to the time you would of been wasting.

>Have a Dragonfly
>Get an email from CIG to buy a Nox
heck yes boy I'm gonna have all the spacebikes

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>>180479526

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>that sitting position
They actually managed to seemingly fuck up the field of view on a ship that doesn't even have a canopy. Bravo.

>>180479526
>>180479687
I wonder how CIG is gonna deal with these limited editions when they have ship painting? Will we only be able to change accent colors?

>>180479526

Or buy 10 dragonflies instead for the same price...

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fucking lmao

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>you can buy a Nox 5-pack for $145
Why

>>180480052
spacebikers
pretty much dads chasing a dream

>>180480051
>>180480052
So wait, with the 5-pack, do you get LTI on each bike or what?

>>180480346
Yes. 4x black and 1x white, all LTI.

>>180480684
Does that mean you get 5 LTI tokens? 'Cause the store page makes it seem like it only applies to the whole package or something.

>>180480043

>Nox is 40
>Dragonfly is 35

Wait a sec. What am I missing? Is the Nox unarmed?

>>180480831
As far as we can tell, yeah. it's more expensive because alien tax.

I could buy one of these LTI Nox things and upgrade it to something I actually give a shit about to transfer the LTI over, right?

I've never bought anything from the store other than the Aurora game package back when the PU launched.

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>>180468314
They will still say "its almost ready" no matter how close or far away they are.

They told us "just around the corner" at gamescon last year.

I'm wondering if its Ben's corner they where talking about, when taking the time into consideration.

Beyond Good and & Evil 2 demo, I"m linking this because it is using similar tech to SC and large portions of the game will take place in space.

https://youtu.be/M8IguhQqhAg

Angel's Fall First also got a huge update recently with a new ai, several balance changes and two new maps. If you buy it make sure to join the discord linked in the steam forums.

I can't see any sale or store page, wtf is this.

>>180482438
>>180482701
fuck off.

>>180483025
You only get access to the pre-sale if you own a Dragonfly, fucko.

Sale opens up to everyone else tomorrow. Advantage of a pre-sale is a forum badge or some gay shit and a limited edition white variant of the bike.

>>180483269
>be concierge
>Don't get early access because I melted my Dfly ages ago.

GIVE ME 3.0 CHRIS FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>180483574
You are expecting their to be content for 3.0 and people with just starter ships are going to be fucked.

>>180483856
>You are expecting their to be content for 3.0
I'm expecting to be able to fuck around on planets. That's all I want.

>and people with just starter ships are going to be fucked.
who gives a fuck about them

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I bet Dorky Smort is having the time of his life right now seeing that CIG is stripping down 3.0 and yet not being able to deliver anything.

>>180484087
>who gives a fuck about them
they're probably the majority of backers

>>180484174
>CIG will NEVER have planets
>CIG adds planets
>y-y-yeah well they took this thing out so they're fucking LIARS SCAM CITIZEN

>>180484238
Why should I care? I'm going to have fun fucking around on planets on my rad-ass spacebike

>implying 3.0 will release
Have fun fucking around on a desolate rock the size of the arena commander maps and at 20 fps because network fix is dead

>spacebike costs the same as a mustang
why

>>180484764
because idiots will pay it

>>180484291
>CIG will NEVER have planets

not him, but what are you talking about?

Also, CIG will most likely not be able to get out the 2-3 "big releases" Erin where talking about this year at this speed.

I'm so fucking glad I only spent 50 dollaridoos on this mess

Who invited the fuckin goons?

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>CIG released another bike when i missed out on the LTI dragonfly like a faggot

this one is far, far cooler, as well.

objectively better in black. if you don't own a little ultralite like one of the two models in question here you're gonna be chumpus fucking maximus in 3.0

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>>180485725
White is all Right

Should I get a refund on my $20 package?

>>180482701
Is that still alive? I added it to my wishlist in case it went anywhere, but haven't been watching it too close.

>>180480052

Are these shits even armed?

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Are these little shits worth a damn in a fight?

Why doesn't the racing bike have guns on it?

>>180482093
>tfw no kittens gf.

>>180486660
currently, not really

2x S2 guns is not enough to take out anything bigger than a mustang or gladius

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>>180475602
That's the reverse really,
CIG have been pretty explicit about using procedural as scenery or tool to hand-craft their contents.
One of a "november town's hall" also make a great point of saying they wanted our game time to be about Quality over Quantity.
That's why landing zone like Levski or Crusader are handcrafted rather than self-generating structure like ED would do.
Even the procedural planet are meant to be painted at any levels.

Of course they also plan to have procedurally generated mission but that's because players WILL inevitably run out of quests and it would look stupid not to have some self-generate.

If there is a game that displayed the means and Intent to use all of their features in diverse way it's Star Citizen.

>>180487014

People say the m50 beats the 350r in combat due to more agility while the 350r is more race oriented. IT would be nice to have a nice racer that also can fight something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVua4SsaGqU
>5 years ago

>>180487320
350r sucks in combat because the entire 300 series is a broken shit-heap

>>180485519
Long ago Drek smart keep yelling that it would be physically impossible to have seamless giant planet. that no computer would ever do it, that multiplayer on it was out of question.

We know the result,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucYhhLwIxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI

If CIG ever get 32 players on line with no lag, derek might shoot himself out of humiliation

>I'm so fucking glad I only spent 50 dollaridoos on this mess
And you'll be so fucking glad if they deliver it

>>180484764
because you're paying to support the game, not for any semblance of balance in pricing, dumbass

>>180484764
Because ships have been getting increasingly more expensive and >>180484897.
On another note, I don't understand how people can still tell themselves 'b-but if they stopped working on ships it wouldn't speed up the rest of the game!', completely ignoring that those 3d artists could be doing props, buildings, stations and whatever else instead.

ATV when?

>>180489319
But I want more ships. I want them to work on more ships.

Why can't we buy ships with aUEC in 3.0?

Anyone wanna buy an elite account for 0.2BTC? Lifetime pass, cutter/corvette etc

>>180490089
liquid credits?

how decked are the two you mentioned

>>180490056
Because they haven't implemented that yet.

>>180490142
1.3 billion assets, cutter and corvette rank is there but no engineered modules, all but lori are unlocked though..

>Nox Kue
koo? koo-ay? kyoo?

>>180493180
Hue

>>180490089
>0.2BTC
$536 for an ED account
.02BTC is a ripoff, you have straight lost your fucking mind.

>>180484764
added markup because it's an alien import ;)

>>180441862
Shouldn't have exploited the grade 1 material glitch, you sociopathic griefer.

>>180465932
Yeah but unless you're clinically retarded you will delete them with little effort.

How the fuck are they going to have a sneak peek at AtV yesterday and still be late with it today? Fucking false hype bullshit.

>>180497710
By requiring the highest fidelity

Gamers Nexus just mentioned another interview with CR, but it was just a passing comment. He was talking about the camera he was going to use for interviews and said upcoming CR interview specifically.

>>180498876
poor time management =/= high fidelity

>>180489319
Ships are one of the key gameplay elements like mining/hauling/trading/bounty hunting.

>>180499273
Steve's prolly gonna be at the conventions

>>180487163
Damn that looks comfy. I just want to go to sleep at sunset in that habitat.

>>180499439
He is literally the only YT channel I have any respect for. He calls everyone on their bullshit, and saved me from buying Ryzen blind.

He already has one interview, so I'm looking forward to his next one.

>>180499607
Yeah,doesn't ride the hype down or up.
He more than one interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUb18MWdphI

>>180487410
>I never play the game: the post

How do I find explorers to kill? I fit an interdictor, currenlty 10k ly out somewhere. Haven't seen any other players, does every explorer play solo?

>>180501564
>solo
bingo

>>180499607
what's wrong with Ryzen?

>>180501675
what did you mean by this?

atv when

>>180502986
everyone's playing solo

>>180502202

Not him, but I wouldn't go anywhere near that processor. I'll bring you some links to look at if you stick around in general.

>>180503020
Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STwVI6_xWqc

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>>180500054
>short hair Steve
Holy fuck this game has taken a long time.

>>180502202
It barely matches Sandy Bridge IPC levels. It's an upgrade from anything but an i7, but pretty much any i7 is going to walk the fuck away on gaming. The newest Kaby Lake 4 core stomps Ryzen the dirt on gaming and synthetic benchmarks and basically keeps up with "production loads".

The R5 is a good bargain chip, but in the >$300 range Intel is still king. ThreadRipper is unlikely to change this either. AMD is apparently not targeting gaming workloads the way the 7700k is. Intel is on cruise control and still making better gaming chips, and I wanted AMD to be good more than anyone. The fact is, you are getting 6 year old i7 performance for current Intel prices for the 1700x and up.

>>180503076
but why?

>>180503172
this Frankfurt guy with the curly hair should speak faster

>>180503172
>40
woah what pipeline is this

I just bought 5 Noxes. Ask me anything.

>>180504981
how disappointed are your parents in you?

>>180504981
Can i have one

>>180503172
>fatherly and friendly looking owner
>sleazy marketing guy wearing a colorful shirt and cuhrayzee hair
why does this pattern happen in most companies
I thought all humans were supposed to be unique

>>180504981
What are some easy crock pot recipes that I can have ready when I get home from work?

>>180503613
don't you ever question punished crytek-jesus' methods

he and a couple other people are the only ones doing the work to make this game into a game before 2025, keeping chris robert's insanity in check

>>180505038
I can't imagine they're particularly disappointed in me, since I have a job that I can piss away $145 like it's nothing.

>>180505049
I'll sell you one for $50.

>>180505107
I find ribs work really well in a slow cooker. Just throw them on the grill for a few minutes to char the outside. Nice and tender, falls off the bone.

>>180501564
Even if they weren't in solo there are literally billions of systems they could be in within that radius.

>This AtV
>As per usual Frankfurt is weeks ahead of schedule and the rest of the offices drop the ball

>>180505286
I want to gank forumdads tho

>>180505491
Stalk their organized expeditions. They tend to do those in open and advertise where they're going to be.

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Is this game worth getting into? I clicked buy now and the price rose by $9.

>>180505772
do I get banned for this tho?

>>180506030
Are you outside the US? Yuropoors get Vatted.

>>180506030
it's not a game yet

>>180506030
It's promising,but it's no more than a distraction/side-game atm
>price rose
VAT?

>>180506030
Do you want to play a game right now? No.

Do you want to invest in a game? Yes.

>>180506187
can I buy it with a proxy or will they come knocking for their $9?

>Nox Ship Shape
>It's gonna be powerful in combat
[sweating]

>>180506304
Proxy should work,alternative is buying from reddit

>>180506304
Your information has already been forwarded to the European Commission on Internet Revenue Collection.

>>180506304
It's based on your billing address I think. I wouldn't know how to skirt that, freedom is ringing too loud.

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>>180506428
>combat bike

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Fuck Sabres!

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The way the back of the Nox covers the rider is some shit straight out of Tron

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S T R U T S

>>180506030
wait for 3.0 release

it's not a game yet, it won't be a game for another 2 years, and 3.0 is like 2 years before what any other company would start handing out "early access pre-pre alpha" keys for

unless you're willing to deal with serious fun ruining issues in a demo that has maybe 3-4 hours of unique content that does not rely on other people, just wait for 3.0 so you can deal with those same issues and more but in a demo that actually has some content and incentive to go do things

>>180507471
>going to have to cope with filth alien bootup sequence every time i hope in

this is shit

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>>180480190
Based dadposter.

>>180507785
#notjustxenos

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Still relevant.

How long will the delay be tomorrow? inb4 hurr durr 3 months. It has to be in the next week or so, they would have delayed it if they knew they weren't going to make it. What is the precedent, when they have actually been close? That shit is hard to remember and be objective about.

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>dragonfly owners

>>180513869
Dragonfly has 2 seats. Nox is probably faster, but the only thing it will be fighting is dragonflys and Ursas. A size 1 missile is your doom.

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>>180513982
>stick a guy with a man-portable railgun or missile launcher onto the back of your drake hodgepodge
>wonder what happens when your vehicle revolves six times in the span of a second upon firing and kills either occupant

also

>missiles

pshhhh.... nothin personnel.

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>>180513869
They are going to get smashed.Hard.

>>180513868
who cares
it won't be 60 fps

>>180514532
Nigga look around you ain't fooling anyone here.
>lurking a ded thred until it is up for the weekly hog call.
>still pessimistic in [current year]
I'll be the first to tell anyone that I'm unhappy with how the game has been developed so far, but we just don't know until we see it. They said that initially different servers would run different parts of space instead of a single server for the whole crusader system.
What if it is maybe not good, but ok enough that something else is more annoying?

>>180515249
I NEED 60 FPS TO PLAY

>>180515318
>60 FPS
You ain't telling me shit. I have a 1080p 144hz Asus monitor with a GTX1070 just so I can have 100+ FPS in pretty much everything. The current PU makes my eyes water with how bad it is, but I could honestly live with 30-40 if it wasn't bound to the netcode anymore.

>>180514279
>stick a guy with a man-portable railgun
railguns are in 3.0
I want to see a Cat open up and broadside the fuck out of someone with a platoon firing from the cargo area.

>>180513869
dragonfly is still superior

but i'm a drake owner so i'm more worried about synergy and my draognflies guaranteed being usable with my ships than having a flashy sport bike

theyre both near worthless throwaway bikes that everyone will have dozens of if they want them

>>180516331
>Noxfags fucking over human spacebike manufacturers.
>Knows how magnets work, but won't tell us.
It may be made out of the finest aliumese, but it can't hold a candle to anything a human could make. Except for that magnet shit, they could have told us how they did it, but they are dickheads and fuck them.

>>180480052
for people who want to buy 5 lti tokens (that they can't trade or melt separately) I guess

>>180482701
AFF actually looks really nice, but I just can't manage to give a fuck until they bother to add a single player campaign

>>180516331
>dragonfly is still superior
>neither of them are even flyable yet
You're a retarded faggot.

>guaranteed being usable with my ships
???

>>180480831
>>180480927
apparently there's an s1 gun on the underside of it

>>180483269
The part where it's sent to dragonfly owners, but there's no option to CCU a dragonfly into a nox is a nice touch.

>>180517572
Different anon, but they have said the Dfly is definitely transportable. The Nox doesn't fold up so it might not store as small.

>>180517759
nigger what the Nox is the same size as a folded-up Dragonfly. Did you even watch ATV where they showed them side-by-side?

>>180517858
Yeah, the Dfly was extended. There is a folded mode where it is a bit shorter.

>>180517936
Yes, I'm aware. The Nox was significantly smaller than the extended Dragonfly. It is roughly the same size as a folded Dragonfly. Keep up.

>>180518003
>It is roughly the same size
That shit is going to be close in a lot of ships. Whichever one is shorter when stored will be the better one. An extra cargo space when most of the cargo is bike would be significant.

>>180518178
If you think CIG is going to let you play tetris with fractions of a cargo unit, you're delusional. Things are going to take up discreet cargo units. The Dragonfly and the Nox will take up the same amount of cargo units.

>Yeah well the Dragonfly is better because it has guns and the Nox doesn't
>Yeah well the Nox is better because it's faster
>Yeah well the Dragonfly is better because it might take up less cargo space
How about neither of them is better than the other you fucking retards

>>180518296
Even if that were true, the Dfly is two seats where the Nox has a minor amount of protection for a single rider. I guess it will depend on how it needs to be used to see if the second seat matters that much. They were both shown with 2 size 1 guns.
>>180518397
You got something better to discuss faggot?

>Black Dragonfly
>White Nox
I didn't even mean to do that. So glad I didn't get the yellow one. Will both fit in a Cutlass? I don't even care about missions, I just want to show off and be an asshole.

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>>180512295

>That filename

>>180518397
>>Yeah well the Dragonfly is better because it has guns and the Nox doesn't

But the Nox does have guns.

>>180455887
>but there are still reentry animations when there is no atmosphere
How the everliving fuck would you know?

I've been wanting CIG to show ACTUAL gameplay, not just demo clips.
Like "Here's the current 3.0 build. Let's get in xyz ship and fly around xyz moon and explore"
instead of
"Here's a feature we're developing for the future"
"Here's a graybox"
We literally never see how the game plays until the (gutted) update is pushed.

>>180521296
That's because they don't want to reveal absolutely everything before we get to play it. See what they did with 2.0, they've already shown WAY more than we did last.

>>180521542
I just hope this is the end of the monolith releases. Since they are on version 3 of the patching software, we should get more frequent updates.

>>180521542
Ah yes, because playing through at 20 FPS on my system-turned-space heater, or watching PTU let's-plays on youtube because you're not invited to the PTU is a far better experience.

It's not like they're story spoilers for SQ42, there's no reason to withhold content that will be in the PU.

>>180462243
Radiation shielding. Bam, 100% justified

Space Flak when?

>>180517572
my 3.0 cutlass was reworked with carrying a Dfly in mind

nox is some new shit with zero confirmation that it will have any of the utility of the DFLY

could not care less what either looks like, all that matters is that the Dfly works, has been working, and that my cutlass was reworked with a dfly in mind

>>180523109

>utility of the DFLY

Its none. Chris said it wont be towing anything and cargo is almost non existent (you might put shit on the extra seat).

If you want to load something you need the ursa.

>>180523326
utility as in the ability to move it in my fucking cutlass and caterpillar, or any other ship and drive it out the back ramp

so things that nobody has said the nox can do yet even if it's implied, i'm putting my money on the bike designed around it first and has also been in engine for about a year

>>180503172
wtf asteroid belts aren't dense as fuck in real life?
why has every scifi in existence lied to me

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I can't help but think the nox would have looked better and more alien-like if they flipped the design and had the big engine section in the back

>>180524379
Or if it could just go in both directions, because Xian technology.

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>>180524379
I liked the top-right one.

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bweepboop

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>>180525130
I like the bottom left

>>180481341

Yes, if you upgrade your Nox with LTI to another ship without LTI, that other ship will have LTI carried onto it from the Nox. Any further upgrades have LTI as well.

>>180523985
Because real asteroids "belts" are solitary rocks millions of km apart and so small as to not be visible from each other. Doesn't make much for interesting writing.

Accurate depictions of asteroids.
https://vimeo.com/108650530

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The floaty bits look out of place somehow and the lack of a main engine annoys me.

Y-You guys haven't forgotten about me... have you? It's me, Wingman!


Have you tried my brand new game Descent: Underground?

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>>180534273

>>180534273
I combed through the Star Citizen bits today and couldn't find what I was looking for: some segment where a math ph.d comes on and discusses the economy. So I guess it was another show/highlight, though I remember the wingmen being around--also on a larger set than usual.
o well

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>>180532473
>floating footrest
It looks so stupid from that angle.

I wonder how much of S42 they have to change or downright redo every couple of months when they shit out some new tech for extra FIDELITY, like all the lighting and animation stuff. Not only that, but adding in procedural planets and planetary missions must have changed it as well.

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>>180525130
>bottom left

Is Hellion in any sort of playable state yet?

>>180525130
Wasn't bottom left originally one of the concepts for the Dragonfly?

>>180532473
The main engine is in the big front bit, is it not?

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CERTIFIED WANT

ORIGIN 890 WHEN

>>180541465
I meant main thruster. It only has that glowing area in the back >>180535367, while the Dragonfly has an actual thruster.

>>180542320
aleins

thread pls come back i'm steam sale filth and i need your help

>>180544718
>He actually bought ED
Poor dumb bastard

>>180545136
it's fun, what's the issue here

Will I be able to make a qt space waifu in 3.0?

>>180545325
Give it a few days.

Why do purchases on RSI take so good damn long to go through? Do they fill these tickets fucking manually or something

>>180523739
I'm genuinely curious why you're so paranoid that you think CIG would add a new space bike that's supposed to be the Suzuki to the Dragonfly's Harley-Davidson, but they would somehow make it completely in compatible with everything the Dragonfly can do.

Either you're a straight-up moron, or you're trying to convince yourself that "mine's better" for some reason.

What will the Origin space bike look like?

I could melt my standalone Terrapin and Eclipse to unmelt the Terrapin+Hurricane combo pack and use the leftover credit to get a Nox 2-pack and upgrade one of them to a Cutlass. Should I?

>>180546873
Yes

>>180546873
No

>>180546873
Maybe

>>180539890
It just got updated. Something about reorganizing where to find loot and making things a little easier for new player. I'll be checking it out tomorrow.

>AtV references possible 20+ minute jumps
is this a good or bad thing?

>>180549887
I'd say good thing. As long as it isn't Hutton Orbital long, there needs to be plenty of time for interdicking. Plus, getting up from your seat and Picarding around your ship would be breddy fun too I think.

>>180549887
I don't see how it's a bad thing. Honestly, wouldn't even mind seeing them a little bit longer.

With the way the mission system works, it should be perfectly possible play the game for a long time in a single system, where every jump is only a couple minutes at most.

Going between systems should take a long time. It helps sell how harsh space is. If you get into trouble, your buddies from a system over aren't going to get there in time to help you. Plus, there's a very large segment of players who want to be able to do long-haul shipping.

The only thing the system would need is a way to pay for transport. Like, you pay a player with a Starliner to take you to another system. You can log off, go do real life shit, go to bed, whatever. You wake up, get on the game, and you spawn at the destination. Essentially players as cargo. It'd please everyone.

>>180551474
>Essentially players as cargo.
I hope someone important at CIG see this. There will probably be several reasons why I would want to go somewhere and not take my ship. Being able to book passage or transport a small ship as cargo would be fucking ideal.

>>180551701
I mean, I imagine they have something similar planned. I can't imagine any other reason for something like the Starliner to exist.

The only problem would be the same problem with all other player-run cargo missions. What if the player just logs off and never logs back on? Of course there are several ways you could solve that problem.

How big do you think cities like Terra Prime are going to wind up being? I know they said they're not building huge cities because there'd be no point, and I agree. But I do think there's value in having city-type environments to romp around in. What's the point of having a rad-ass ricer space bike if I can't do illegal street racing with it?

Also kind of hope they release some smaller, civilian, car-type vehicles eventually. Not only would be neat from a world-building perspective. I guarantee you forumdads would eat that shit up because muh hotrods

>>180551474
I love the players as cargo idea. I remember some of the most fun times in FFXI were when we all had to board that ship to travel to another continent, and just hang out on it during the travel time, with some fighting enemies on the deck etc. It was one of those gameplay experiences that just felt "right" and really sold the distance between continents.

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>>180551474
I think in AtV they meant intra-system jumps could be up to 20 minutes.
For when there are several systems, how are we going to travel between them? With it be quantum as well?

>>180541637

Can you actually pick of of these and throw all the bars, jaccuzzis, leather seats, etc out the airlock to build some sort of "on a budget"corvette?

>>180554126

>*one of those

>>180554115
>I think in AtV they meant intra-system jumps could be up to 20 minutes.
Right, and going between multiple systems will take much longer because you might have to do multiple 20-minute jumps

>ow are we going to travel between them?
Jump points, son.

>>180554115
I can really see them scaling things down or, more likely, increasing the speed of quantum drive in the future, after playtesting. But also keep in mind there is no reason to fly from one far end of a system to the other.

>>180549887

Too harsh. 10 min is ideal for a smoke break.

>>180554471
20 minutes will be on the high end.

Most jumps between two POI won't be that long.

>>180554573

Well... The universe is indeed a lot smaller than EvE is it not (despite systems having a lot more content)?

It shouldnt be that hard. Im already used to it. If they could offer equipment that speeds up jumping without gimping you for combat too much Im all for it. I was never the deep space explorer but Im still nomad as fuck.

>>180555243
>Well... The universe is indeed a lot smaller than EvE is it not (despite systems having a lot more content)?
SC's universe is currently I think 1:10 real scale. Might be 1:8?

>>180555591

Yeah thats more or less the combination of high/low systems. Problem is people here are talking about 20 min jumps. It can still be a significant drag for logistical purposes. Also SC has fuel, EvE does not. IT becomes harder to travel. I sure hope they have good engines/fuel.

I hope this type of wandering gameplay doesnt require DUR/Aquilla sensors/expanded fuel tanks at all times.

Btw, can player outposts be scanned and raided?

>>180556338
>player outposts
???

>>180556406

Nvm, I thought they were actually going this path. I guess they are not player made then.

>>180556589
They may be in the future, but there's no concrete plans for it yet.

Are we placing bets for delays?

>>180557174
it's pretty much guaranteed for a majority of the parts listed on the sheet

Is electronic warfare a thing in SC?

>>180558472
should be

>>180558472

Theres a vanguard variant that is supposed to do that. I suspect it has to due with some sort of anti missile screen. Perhaps sensor blocking.

>>180558735
>>180560708
As long as we don't get cancer like EVE's ECM(chance-based module that can completely shut down your ability to fight) and sensor dampening(cuts your max range by stupid amounts, among other things) I'm happy

>>180560958
It'll probably be in the realm of disabling your HUD and missiles, maybe even shorting your thrust for a brief period of time.

>Dan Gheesling
god this guy is fucking insufferable

>>180558472
Yes, from opening door to lessening/disabling some module like engine or shield.
And of course jamming radar.

at least 3 ship are built around it or close (data running with good sensor)

boring.
>get bored of wasting my time lurking these threads when 3.0 is a year late
>leave
>see a youtube thumbnail with a new ship sale
>come back to this thread
>boring talk about boring stuff
>no new content
>just some webms of a place everyone has exhausted before the game even comes out

>>180562971
How about you fuck off then and never come back faglover

>>180560958

It could be ruinous but I dont see it being that OP. Maybe it fucks up the gimbal turrets but not the fixed ones like E:D. Its not like you can lock several ships in your overview and fuck them all like in EvE.

Wheres the single seat salvaging ship godammit?

>>180457462

Atmospheric limitations are just some made up bullshit to give limits to ship flight in populated worlds, not on barren ones where there are hidden bases and wrecks. The dragonfly will supposedly have a tractor beam, so you only need one of those. If you have problems just use the ships guns to clean house.

That way you save space and fill the hold with looted bs. But ofc this is all just
...
>speculations

>>180562784

I dont understand why people say the Herald is for EWAR. Its steals and stores intel. Thats it lol.

EWAR is basically sensor shenenigans/jamming to give you the upper hand in combat.

>>180525130

From the top left, left to right, up and down

>shit taken out of the ass
>down syndrome shark
>actual Xi'an tech
>star craft vulture bike

Fucking Koreans....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96CD0kJM1o4

Does sacrificing carebears to Bob, the EVE Online god of Wormholes and PVP, before engineering improve my chances of getting a god roll?

>>180566670
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhcD10bqC74

>>180566953
That's not Bob. That's BoB. There's a difference. Once is worshiped by a significant part of the community, the other is hated for attempting to take over the entire game.
>inb4 BoB takes over Star Citizen

>>180567156
>hated
hello somethingawful