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Birb Edition

Blood-addled: >>180275903

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password = /bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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PURGE FILTH
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FC in Loran RIGHT NOW. Be there or be hip to be square
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H M P H
M
P
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>>180327527
>Birb Edition
hav a pebl, birb
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>>180327749
You like FromSoftware games?
Their early work was a little too clunky for my taste, but when Demon's Souls came out in '09, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.
The whole game has a well crafted, ingenious level design, and a new dynamic combat system that really gives the encounters a big boost. It's been compared to Dark Souls, but I think Demon's has a far more grim and refined atmosphere.
In '15 From released this; Bloodborne, their most accomplished game. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Ludwig the Accursed", a boss so engaging, most people don't listen to the dialogue. But they should! Because it's not just an extremely relevant and historic character in the lore, it's also a paradigm of the theme of duality between righteous saint and bloodthirsty beast in men! Hey Paul!
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Oh shit I died to the poison after killing him!
Let me repair my claws and I'll be beckoning once again.
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Marry
Fuck
Kill
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>finally nut up and start the chalice speedrun grind
>remember i have to do nightmare frontier for loran

U N E N D I N G N I G H T M A R E
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>>180327859
When the day of the rope comes, bateman posters will be spared

bless you, anon.
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Should I put on my Executioners Rune and slay some vilebloods with full cainhurst and Evelyn/chicago?
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>>180327845
Does this birb have a cloaca?
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I failed you, Yamui
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>>180328130
Sure, why not
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I always forget to do these.

Layer one bonus chest was a rune, probably one of the clockwise, got a GOW

Layer two chest was just a gem
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>>180328130
Yes
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what the hell Thomas
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>>180327859
>Hey Paul!
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Running through the hinter tomb chalice for the first time ever, is there anything I should look out for?
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>>180328263
I don't know what happened my dude, it just told me bell silenced. I guess our connections disagreed with each other?
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>used 10 vials at BSB because of the poison
Fuck you too Miyazaki
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>>180328212

Okay, next time I'm gonna do it with the Ardeo on.
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Sorry Thomas I forgot to bloodbullet
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>>180328169
I have failed you, Cheesecake

slimes do NOT fuck around, goodness
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So no Bloodborne 2, how are you guys feeling?
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Is wheel, Saif and BoM the strongest PvP weapons?
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>when you have an opening on Rom and there's that one fucker that strafes with your movement and never fucking attacks
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>>180325258
>>180324454
Alright lads, I'm heading towards the door to Amelia's cathedral and I'll ring there with the same pass, hotdog. I wouldn't mind bullying those hunters around the bend before we head in, too
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Shit, good fight Eden. Was on the edge of my seat there
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>>180328545
>Wheel
Maybe if you tricked dashspam
>Saif
Yeah, one of them
>BoM
Maybe before the dlc hit
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>tfw wearing executioner AND cainhurst noble armor
>even using ludwigs holy blade and chikage

Unite the clans.
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>>180328643
Close one mang. how much hp?
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>>180328465
I'm hating this layer already desu
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>>180328745
Fuck, I forgot to check before healing. From my experience it was probably 25-50 HP
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>>180328604
Ringing now.
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>>180327920
Marry
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>>180328783
All those deaths for coldblood flowerbuds...
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>>180328526
Very good.
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>>180328898
>Aftershot of trying the stuff Pthumethrians smoke
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>>180328898
A.. Are you going to be okay?
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>>180328898
Definitely mercy kill this one
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>>180329020
kek

dont abuse her you fucker
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I'm starting a new character for Spelunking and co-op mainly. I just read the googledoc with basic info and based on that I'm doing a 98-100lvl build, but there are no sample builds.

Should I just reach the Skill and Strength softcaps and dump the rest into Vit and End?
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>>180328898
>this ain't blood Alfred
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>>180329184
Take this to celebrate our acquaintance
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That was one hell of a cleansing. Next stop is Cleric Beast Nighttime Edition. same pass by the Central lamp
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>>180329279
That endurance seems low. But I know fuckall about BB, beaten it a handful of times. Thanks anyway.
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>see a ghost at FC
>saif
>worry.jpeg
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>>180328952
This layer has a lot of bastards laying around and one of the breakable chests had 2 jellies
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>Check internet connection
>NAT Type 3
Well no wonder I'm unable to connect to barely anyone now. Now the question is how the hell do I improve this when stuck on a college network?
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Thanks for the company, fellas. Time for pic related.
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>2 Red-Aura Werewolves, and 2scythe lmao guarding the chest

Could this be Guidance Rune 3?
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>>180329698
>>180329279
That's a great build. It would be fine but somewhat low without the runes, but those will make a significant difference
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>>180329824
I went to the boss door, thought you two were right behind me. I'm hanging out by the lamp now.
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Pls Natalya let me have my transform kill!
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why would anyone want to become a Hunter?

>dirty job
>if you drink too much blood you become a beast
>if you go mad the church imprisons you (yamamura) or eileen might hunt you down
>church might order you to spread the plague (simon)

it's such a shitty job
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>>180330227
whats this about simon??
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>>180330227
It seems like most hunters did it out of personal need or for the betterment of others (Madaras Twins supported their village in their endeavors), certainly not a job anyone would willingly take.
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What music/podcasts do you all listen to while playing through the game to make builds and such?
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>>180330287
read his garb description
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>>180329941
Coldblood Flowers again
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>>180330378
Currently listening to this while doing PvP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovq9UsNTjYk
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>>180329941
>2 Red-Aura Werewolves
It was 3, one of them killed Cake. Dealing with them was quite thrilling.
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>>180329941
>red aura
Does that do anything?
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>>180330625
Increased health and damage
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>getting kind of bored of using the same 2 weapons every FC
>most of the other SKL weapons give you a bad rep
wat do
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>>180330848
just use what you want
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and that's the end of my FRC of Yamui. Thanks for the company, guys. It's been real fun.

>Cheesecake firing a cannon at a slime
>zooms right over the flat blob
lol
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>Cheesecake is summoned in underwear
I-I didn't look
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>>180330894
I did pretty trash bad, I admit.

Also, I thought it landed?
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>>180331024
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>>180331024
I did! What a fine tush.
>>180331028
Nah you were fine, I died pretty often too. I saved a recording, didn't see it on my end.
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>>180331024
I had to dress for Dickbeast, anon.
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Anyone spelunking?
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>>180329968
Are the weapons an integral part of the build, or am I free to use whatever? I've used Whirligig predominantly and want to switch it up with the SteakDriver. I know it would have to be a Str weapon.

Also, what stats do I prioritize to level first?

>>180330592
Nice. This is pretty good https://youtu.be/dgeKsdAhnVc
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What sorta gems should I use for Steak Driver? Would it work 50 STR/25 SKL?
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>>180331324
You can use any STR or SKL weapon in the game to great effect. It's generally best to level some VIT and END first before focusing on attack stats, since the scaling doesn't do much until you upgrade your weapons a bit
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What a battle Natalya
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Is lost the best hlms type?
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Are my BBros at FC ?
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>>180331627
Yeah, been enjoying our fights. Trying to not be a complete shitter and R1-spammer with the Saif. I haven't used it before in PvP
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>all these people asking stupid guestions
Read the OP for fucks sake

>>180331737
Yes
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>>180331546
Fantastic. Looking forward, this'll be fun.

>>180331540
Seconded
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>>180331859
Loran ?
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>>180331859
This. It's all there
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>>180331859
No info on how to gem the Stake Driver on the Best Blood Gem Setups
>>180331652
For beams, yes.
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>>180331028
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>>180331973
Illiterate. Read again.
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>>180331973
Literally the first one
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>>180331973
Blind and retarded.
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>>180331850
Yep every fight have been close I just haven't been able to seal the deal the last few fights
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also this happened, emote kinda continued during death
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are bloodlickers supposed to show up in central pthu? i swear i don't remember them being there but i just got jumped by one on l2 and nearly shit myself
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>>180331973
Did you even open the link?
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Post your Hunters
but bloody
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>>180331540
At 50 str literally every weapon should have a heavy abyssal on it. Even beast and pizza cutters.
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>getting all these new stagger/critical animations in chalice dungeon from the sheer damage output of an arcane build
>never seen these before after 1.5+ years of playing

truly i have been granted eyes
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>>180332149
why can randomly generate after killing one.
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Nice parry!
I'm turning that into a webm
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>>180332070
>>180332075
>>180332097
>>180332217

You mean this, right? I was thinking that Stake Driver would need gems like fire gems or something

;_;
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>>180332264
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Is anyone doing a spelunk?
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>>180331978
>>180332138
I really like your fasion anon.
It's cute.
You look so prim and proper. <3
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>>180332341
nigga wtf, yeah for an ARC build
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>>180332341
It's almost like there's also a setup in that link for a fire Stake Driver.
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>>180332323
Thanks! I'm gonna be back on in 10 I just need to get a quick bite to eat
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>>180332264
im afraid to post mine again because everybody thinks she's a space dust meth-head
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>>180332441
>>180332476
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>>180332341
Read again. If you still don't understand after that you don't have the brain power to play this game.
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>>180332515
eg r u ok?
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>>180332341
My guy, do you need me to go over to your house, put my arm around your shoulder like a parent, and have you follow my finger down the webpage as I show you where it is you need to go to find the information that you're looking for?
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>>180332437
Th-thanks.
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>>180327920
Marry & Fuck Beast
Kill the others
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I know a bunch of people are FCing and spelunking right now, but if anybody is free to help me out with Ludwig, that would be great. Password is bbg
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>>180332594
Y-yes
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>>180332594
I need an adult
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>>180333105
I'm coming, fog or lantern?
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>>180332593
I'm barely awake as it is, but I don't want to sleep either
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>tfw Research Hall

I hate replaying this part
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>>180333105
And done. Thanks, you two! Sorry about the detour, forgot to grab the Whirligig Saw
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>>180333096
Nice, surprised I was able to get the visceral there. I'm heading back in, is anyone still there?
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Is there a thing such as a gun build? Fighting exclusively with a firearm(no bow).
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>>180333604
I haven't been able to connect with anyone else, but my ability to connect with others has been bad for the past few days
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>no new fromsoft game until at least 2021

WHY EVEN FUCKING LIVE?
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>>180333617
if you can count reiterpallasch /rifle spear then sure

one arm parries and the other shoots, it's good damage
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>>180333802
Think about how good it'll be.

I just wished that they would do content updates for Bloodborne to hold us over until then.
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Wow, that R2 has some surprising reach
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>>180333802
Says who?
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>haven't played since damn near close to launch
>decide I should make a new character to try and beat the game (got to some weird blob type thing, reminded me of phalanx a little bit, but mixed with tower knight cause there were guys on walls firing shit at you)
>get up to doglady in the cathedral ward
>die a couple times
>I'll help some other folks to try and figure out some of her moves
>get summoned
>blanked back
>get summoned
>blanked back
every god damned time WHY ARE YOU SUMMONING ME
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Ooh you gotta clip that one
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>>180333924
Yeah, they could something like that, but then again it would slow the development of new games.

>>180334037
My paranoia and fear of dying before they release something.
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Natalya, you down for a spelunk?
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>>180334432
Sorry, it's getting late for me. Maybe tomorrow
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>>180333924
You and me both.
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>>180334585
Alright good games it was fun
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How come the level meta is so low? Cycles past NG make it really easy to level up a lot and fast, and I for one don't like to sacrifice pve for pvp. So, how come?
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>>180334697
Alright, good fights. I'll make a few more clips
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>>180334807
It's low?
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Anyone farming/need help with anything or want to spelunk?
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>>180335034
S P E L U N K
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>>180334807
You mean 98?

It gives you core stats for any build, and used to be the highest level you could go to avoid the 120 reddit meta. Aka the bloated builds meta.
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>>180334807
The idea around lowish level metas is that it makes builds varied. You need to sacrifice something in exchange for another. High level metas make it so everyone can be a little good at everything.
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Anyone else feel like Bloodborne base game NG difficulty is too easy?

Sure, at the beginning it's pretty hard , but that starts to change prettt early on because of all the multiple avenues like chalice dungeons and side areas you can do which increase your level gain significantly. A lot of players end up in the 100+ range by the time at the nightmare of mensis or even yahargul which completely trivialize end game content like the dlc.

Anyone else agree or is it only me?
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>>180335081
>a little good at everything
You mean overpowered at everything
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>>180335050
Ok I will set one up which location you want?
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>>180335216
Loran, how about?
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>>180334807
The game is boring without a challenge if you can call anything outside dungeons a challenge at that point.
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>>180335081
So you choose to specialize or play as an enforced class rather than be a jack of all trades. I suppose that makes sense. It can make you good at handling different situations in specific ways, but I prefer freedom. Thanks for aswering honestly.
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>>180335278
Ok it's all set up. FRC Loran, glyph is put435eb and password is bbg123
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>>180335381
I'll join in too
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>>180335078
>reddit meta

I don't mean to pop your bubble but 120 is the meta for basically everyone outside of this thread.
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>>180335078
>reddit
You care that much?

>>180335301
I mean, the thrill is there on higher cycles, a single fuckup can get you dead.
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>>180335464
Sounds good there's still a spot open. I will post when we get another guy in so nobody gets cucked
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>>180335528
>>180335529
Why do you fags always assume everything is personal?


Back a long time ago, probably before you kiddos even knew what 4chan was, /bbg/ decided that 98 was the best level to cap at. Primarily because reddit was playing at the 120 meta, was a bunch of cancerous fags, and 120 builds were the boring ass 'do-everything' builds.
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>load into coop sessions so laggy I literally cannot deal damage to enemies
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>>180335529
>a single fuckup can get you dead.
Even at NG that can happen. Now imagine that you didn't stopped leveling and had 70 VIT or some shit like that.
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How's this for a plague doctor themed build lads? I'm going to be using the Choir Bell, Old Hunter Bone, and Accursed Brew as well. For consumables I'll probably have Throwing Knives, Numbing Mist, Bone Marrow Ash and Leaden Elixir. Am I good to go?
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>>180335381
Still need one for FRC Loran
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>>180335879
there is 117 for some hmls but those are niche.
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>>180336178
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>>180336234
>105
Might I recommend Yharnam Hunter Garb? Paired with something like the Black Church Dress gives a much more traditional plague doctor look.
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>>180336445
I could go to 100 98 is for autists instead, but then I wouldn't be able to use the Accursed Brew. The fashion doesn't really matter at this point, but I'll give that fashion a try most likely.
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>>180336234
Brew is kinda useless at 30 Arc, you'll want 50+ for it but if you're not going 50/50 then I'd drop it. At least 15 for the other Tools, maybe 18 for Augur. I'd start with Lone Survivor instead for Loch Shield and get 8 Blt for Repeating Pistol if you're gonna use BMA for your shots.

LS: 50/11/11/50/8/18 puts you at 98. If you really want Brew at 30 Arc then drop some out of Vit (no more than 10).
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>>180335879
>kiddos
>cancerous
>le new
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> Getting late for the FC
:^(
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>>180335879
>typing all this shit

All I said is that 120 is the meta for people outside of this thread lmao
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/bbg/ is comfy as fuck
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>>180336003
High health means almost nothing when you get to NG+7.
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Layer 1 report:
4 ritual blood 5
1 lost stake drive in the pre boss area
Re-ringing sorry Albatross. Dude stagger 2-hit lmao. Also still need 1 more person if anyone wants to join up
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>>180336613
You'd be better off going 25/50.
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>>180336296
>117 for hmls
>42/20/25/25/5/50
That's a do everything build, anon.
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>>180336941
25/50 Skl/Arc? That's pretty bad for BoM
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>>180336908
>NG+7
Go back
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>>180336234
I mean you could also go pure ARC, still use the cane, and be able to deal a decent amount of damage with the tools. You won't have BoM though so it depends how important that is to you, I guess.

It's really easy to fit pure ARC into a BL100~ build.
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>>180337109
You go back. That's what I mean with the whole pvp obsession. Sacrificing pve is such a waste.
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>>180337070
I saw cane not bom. I wouldn't use bom myselffor a build like that.
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I wonder if the people who say Bloodborne is the easiest modern From title have completed an FRC chalice.
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Where can I get the best blt gems without doing chalices ? Farming or specific place? I need to boost my scaling ASAP
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>>180337362
The best Blood Gems available that aren't through the Chalice Dungeons are the Droplet ones you get from the two Winter Lanterns outside of the Orphan of Kos.
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Need help at Orphan. Pass is bbg
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>>180337362
Physical gems, if you're trying to slot gems on your guns then get Droplets from Lanterns. DLC Lanterns offer the best Phys gems without CD's.
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>>180337358
Nope, they just breezed through the base game via googling 'bloodborne OP build,' leveled strength and skill equally to main ludwigs holy blade.
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>>180337250
>he doesn't know
Go back
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>>180337362
BLT scaling gems are never worth it. Just use physical gems, from the Mensis/DLC Winter Lanterns
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>>180337358
>Lower Loran FRC spelunk earlier
>three Witches of Hemwick
>two spider maidens
>in one room
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does arcane scaling affect the blades of mercy physical damage?
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>>180337550
>he memes
Get a girlfriend.
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>>180337598
No, it affects the arcane damage portion
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>>180337358
Probably not, maybe they tries to clear the first layer, got stuck, claimed 'artificial difficulty' and left it at that.
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>>180337438
Lamp or fog?
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>When you die as host
2 sage hair so far only in this layer Albatross
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>>180337703
Lamp
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>>180337702
>'artificial difficulty'
I mean, by the time they would've gotten to defile Pthu-in-loo they wouldn't have been wholely wrong.
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>>180337634
>girlfriend
Go back. This place is not for you.
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>>180337358
They probably never even touched the chalices past the first one
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>>180337729
>split up for a sec
>get immediately ambushed and have to contemplate what you just did while ringing everyone back in

Worst feel.
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>>180337729
Dying as a co-operator feels far worse, believe me.
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>>180337703
Thank you both!
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>>180337787
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>>180338026
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>>180338013
What's even worse is dying as cooperator by stupidly jumping into an obvious trap.
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>>180338135
Fuck you, I'll burn your worthless beast friends and there's fuckall you can do about it.
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1 bastard in the main chest. That was barren as fuck. Ringing at layer 3 Albatross
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>>180336849
Damn right, bro
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>>180338580
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Real hunter hours, who up?
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>>180339189
Who asking?
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>>180339189
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Layer 3 Report:
Clear Deep Sea in the pre lantern area
3 bastards
9 ritual blood 5s in one chest
Thanks for joining me Albatross
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>>180339503
Let's see if I can loop it
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>>180339503
>hunter chest sans cape
Severely underrated piece imo.
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>>180339894
>sans cape
Uh...?
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>>180334059
Alright i'm thinking maybe i'm just retarded. I can't kill vicar. At all. I've been at it for a while now. Summons just make it worse cause she gets so much health. Should I just remake or what.
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>>180340017
Need help?
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>>180340017
Saw Spear, BBP, fire paper if you can. Numbing Mist for her heals
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>>180340017
>Chikage stats
Yes, you should just remake.
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>>180339980
I mean, lest my eyes deceive me, that webm depicts a character wearing the version of the hunter garb that does not have the cape, yes?

Perhaps my insight is too low...
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>>180340017
>30 Blt
>bl 35
Jesus Christ anon what are you doing?

Jusy get a Saw Spear/Cleaver, use Beast Blood Pellets and/or Fire Paper, then strafe around her anti-clockwise.

Is this the part where I say "Blt twinks, everyone"? I hope you're not that much of a faggot.
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>tfw you die to the Cleric Beast
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>>180340262
>tfw you die to watchers
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>>180340321
>tfw you die to a regular, skinny Pthumerian
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>>180340245
>>180340138
I'm honestly just a huge weeb and don't want to pvp much at all. I thought guns were stronger than they are. Misremembered I guess.
>>180340125
I'll give that a go, thanks anon.
>>180340040
I'm trying to get better at not having to summon for every boss, thanks though
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>>180340017
Jesus Christ anon what the fuck are those stats. If you get a good summon from here they can probably take care of it for you, but you leveled blt way too hard way too early.
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>>180340205
You are the only person I've ever encountered to use the word Sans in place of without. Go back to whatever time period you're from, traveler.
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>>180340321
Every once in a while the chieftain just bumrushes my shit and takes me out, then I just sit there and figure out whether I should laugh or feel shame.
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>>180340017
Leveling BLT early is a pretty awful choice since you basically only have access to guns until you get Chikage/Bloodletter/Bowblade way later into the game.

It's perfectly salvageable though, you haven't made any fundamental mistakes in your build (assuming it's a dedicated Chikage build), so once you get enough echoes to fix your shit (get VIT to 30 next, seriously) you'll be fine.
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>>180340507
Sans is as common a word as behold and makes perfect sense in the context he used.
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>>180340527
>farming frc watchers
>about to parry a one-shot chieftain
>get shot from the side and stagger into his overhead slam
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>>180340692
>Sans is as common a word as behold
I genuinely hope this was looked up in one of those dictionary.com word usage statistics.
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>>180340708
>Shotgun Watcher ruining parries
That guy is the biggest cunt in all of BB.
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>>180340692
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>>180340758
He's only looking out for his friends anon. Playing a good defense is all.
Yeah fuck the gun watchers, such cunts, and utterly defenseless by themselves.
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About to run through the Research Hall from the starting lamp, if any anons want something to do. Pass is ez
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Bogpill me on the Saw Spear. Why does everyone use it instead of the Saw Cleaver? What's so good about it in comparison?
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Is it true that the baboon is the official cutie here?
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>>180341515
Thrust attacks and tricked is serrated. Some prefer the tricked moveset over Cleaver's, both are pretty great. Better for Skill builds while Cleaver gets more AR on Str and Arc builds.
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>>180341515
Better moveset for PvP, and it's a complete beast-rapist in PvE with L1 spam since both forms are serrated.
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>>180328343
Poison my dude.
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At 50 arc my +9 Whirligig is doing 176 arc+275 (451) Is this normal range for it to be in? I feel like this arcane build is incredibly weak even though I'm following the guide
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Can't beat headless bloodletting beast. How do I cheese it?

>inb4 DUDE JUST JUMP AROUND HIS LEGS AND POKE THE BUTT LIKE ANY OTHER BIG BOSS I KILLED HIM ON MY 1ST TRY LMAO

Must be my toughest fight in the game, for reals.
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I have never beat a broccoli in pvp. What are some tips when facing them?
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>>180342013
>whirligig
>arc
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>>180342013
Depends where you're at, sounds alright if you haven't hit FRC yet. At +10 with top tier gems your AR should be 680+
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>>180342106
I should've specified I put the arc gems I have into it now since I'm trying to farm the bone ash hunter in the isz root

>>180342171
I'm doing them now. My gems aren't the best but I feel like I'm doing very little damage even with fire/bolt
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>>180342084
get in their face
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>>180342013
It's hard to tell from numbers, what gems are you using and what point of the game are you up to? Arcane can be kind of slow to get going but if you know where to look for gems and stuff it's not that bad.
>>180342106
He could easily just be a HMS/Wheel build using the Whirligig in the meantime. And even if he wasn't, Whirligig is a decent candidate for converting anyway.
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>>180341703
Yes.
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>>180342059
blue elixir and bowblade

i found this out not too long ago, but after his bee swarm attack, he loses track of you (because he has no head) and just stands there

blue elixir seems to help
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>>180342269
Oh well then yeah it's pretty low at that point. Don't bother with BAHs, stick to Cold Abyssals, Isz Watcher 27.2% Elemental Triangles and Hotdog/Abhorrent Abyssals.
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>>180342474
Sounds logical, I'll try it out.
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>>180342059
Blt and Arc builds can cheese it with projectiles, there aren't really any cheeses for melee. When he goes down to shoot blood, that's the best time to hit the arms. Try to bait and outspace slams. When he punches the ground, dodge under after the 2nd punch and hit the legs. You'll want to make sure you're ready to dodge his swipes as he turns around. Same goes for the 2 swipes he does. When he's pushing up on you, bait a slam. Lock on to face him, lock off to dodge under and attack.
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Does anybody have that glitched empty chalice glitch? Have we tried to summon people there?
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>>180342636
you gotta be far away to bait that attack, so keep your distance
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What was the point in having a cinematic for entering the Cathedral Ward?
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>>180342687
wzazm3p7
4b97qxw2
You can ring your bells but I never waited for anyone
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>>180342710
To set the tone that it's an important place, the NPC hub.
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>>180342710
Entering the Ward is the first major shifting point in the world, opening up new interactions back in Central Yharnam. I guess having a cutscene there is your clue that something's happened.
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>>180342710
stop being gay and youll find out
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At what bloodtinge does the evelyn become better than the hunter's pistol? I'm at 25 right now and I don't know if it's worth upgrading it from +6-9
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>>180344180
22+
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>>180344180
cuck
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>>180344180
Repeating Pistol
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>>180342557
I already have the triangles. I need radials
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Is bowblade fun? I've never picked it up with a character that could equip it, but I'm making a skill character now and wondering if it would be useful to level bloodtinge a bit. I have a bloodtinge character I've worked on some, and whenever I get around to going through the dlc with him I'll use it tricked, just want to know if the one-handed form was alright.
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Does Valtr use a gun?
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>>180344417
Blunderbuss, I think.
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Anyone bored wanna help with me in Pthumeru Ihyll layer 2, bloodletting beast? Can't solo.

Glyph: kecz
Pass: vg1

Ringing bell next to fog.
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>>180344353
Cold Abyssals

>>180344371
Untricked is fun, very similar to DaS curved swords. I wouldn't go beyond 10 Blt to use it on a Skill build
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>page 8
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>>180345786
it's 4 am
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What does /bbg/ think of my new waifu? Looking forward to this playthrough
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>>180346416
C-cute
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>>180346416
JUST
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>>180346416
hot
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*one shots u*
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>>180340321
>>180340321
>tfw bloodfriend dies to witch twice.
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>>180346416
Yaddle/10
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>>180346793

Hot.
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So how does defeating the Moon Presence make me a squid?
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>>180347837
You ate a bunch of cords. You got enlightened.
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>try peeling off your face and feeding it to the dogs...sounded like a good idea at the time
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>>180328683
Executioners didin't use ludwig's sword
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How do you open this door again? Can't remember what's on the other side.
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>>180349204
If it's not clear, it's in the Cathedral Ward, past the ball and chain giant. The chest has a blood gem in it.
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>>180349204
You cannot open that door. It's the door that connects that area and the bridge you fought the Cleric Beast on.
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>>180348678
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can a pthumeru elder drop a cold abyssal radial with +15 fire as a secondary?
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>>180349432
Yes, but only in Loran.
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>>180349452
>>180349432
I should have clarified, you can get +15 fire/bolt on a Cold Abyssal but it needs to be from Loran, where it will be waning not radial.
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Ao qhewn id Bldorbeirn cuehmg ot PC?
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>>180349520
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>>180349512
Ah right, cheers for the info
So as far as I'm aware the best way to gem an elemental weapon at 50 arcane is to use a Cold Abyssal radial and triangle, with a 24.8%+ 15 fire waning gem? Why wouldn't I want to use a third cold abyssal?
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>>180349568
Whrm if Bloifbrn cpnig to PC??
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So how should I go about doing some plague doctor themed fashion? I can't seem to find good leggings to go with this. Should I just go with Gascan's and call it a day?
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>>180348678
>He didn't remove his entire face.
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>>180349912
Jesus.

Sliders?
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>>180349452
>Yes, but only in Loran.
What's up with this then?

>Cold Triangle 20 Arc scaling +65 + 15 fire Dropped by Isz Elder jemmjmpi, F/R/C Isz Gravestone L3
>http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html?m=1
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>>180349661
Man I'm retarded, I didn't mention Isz can roll fire/bolt on Cold Abyssals too for some reason (triangles though, obviously).

The setup you should probably farm is

>Radial Cold Abyssal
>Triangle 27.2% fire gem
>Waning Cold Abyssal with flat fire

Alternatively you can go for the setup you mentioned, the differences are extremelyl marginal, and come down to things like weapon attack multipliers and stuff. I'm not certain what the differences would be at 50 ARC (or if there are any at all), but at 70 ARC the setup you mentioned is better for R1 attacks only, and the setup I mentioned is a tiny bit worse but better on transformation attacks and charge attacks.

I don't know why a 3rd Cold Abyssal isn't better, all I know is that if I slot one into my weapon over a % gem it's worse, even with 70 ARC.

>>180350165
I'm retarded and forgot about Isz in my post
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>>180349432
Yes, but it's incredibly rare. I'd say it's about as likely to drop as a bolt gem from pthumeru watchers.

Pthumeru isn't necessarily meant to give you elemental gems. Settle for cold abyssals with +% vs open foes instead.
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>>180350238
>Radial Cold Abyssal
>Triangle 27.2% fire gem
>Waning Cold Abyssal with flat fire
Don't waste time with isz watchers. Not only will you have slightly less damage overall, but elemental triangles from watchers are not a common drop.

>Cold Abyssal Radial (vs open foes)
>Cold Abyssal Triangle (flat fire)
>Fire Abyssal Waning (flat fire)

alternatively
>Fire Abyssal Radial (vs open foes)
>Cold Abyssal Triangle (flat fire)
>Cold Abyssal Waning (flat fire)

The setups are identical damage-wise, and don't involve farming watchers for a fire triangle.
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>>180350238
>>180350408
>>180350724
thanks for the advice, I'm just going to go with the recommended setup of radial abyssal, triangle abyssal +15 fire, and a +24.8% abyssal waning

on this note, does anyone want to help me farm for these? I have a savescum set up so it can be done fast and Elder is piss easy when duo teamed
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Is there any examples of trick weapons IRL? I'd love to see something like a shortsword with a telescopic handle (like hunter axe) that becomes a spear
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>>180350724
>giving shit advice

>>180350863
+65, +24.8%, +24.8% isn't a good setup. Every weapon in the game except Ludwig's and Kirk will get more AR from +65, +65, +24.8%.

+65,+65, +27.2% is even better, the only exception being Ludwig's; +65, +27.2%, +24.8% is the best for it.
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>>180349912
>he is not Satan himself
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>>180348969
They most likely did, since they're using whatever church weapons available. Alfred is using a Kirk when you summon him for BSB/Cleric Beast. The regular executioner enemies are using regular axes, the nightmare executioners use church cannons. This is my headcanon, but chances are Ludwig himself was an executioner because:
>he is wearing tattered white clothes with a holy shawl on it
>is the first church hunter
>executioner garb is mentioned as the basis and prototype of all church attire
>executioner garb has a hunter rune embroidered on the chest
Executioners are a large organization, it's pretty clear that they even follow the same separation as black/white doctors, since lowly black executioners we find at central yharnam/cathedral ward/hemwick are using regular non-hunter weapons. The "band of executioners led by Martyr Logarius" part in my humble optinion simply refers to a certain squad of many death squads of the Church.
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>>180349912
care to share sliders?
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Anyone still up? Stuck in Pthumeru Root Chalice layer 3 BLB, been stuck on it for a good hour and a half actually. Pretty much done with this piece of shit as far as solo-ing goes.

Please put an end to my torment.

glyph: agvjnvxm
pass: vg1
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>>180351651
Pthumeru Ihyll Root Chalice*
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>>180351651
I'll SRRC in. Give me a moment to boot up.
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>>180351651
ill be there in a couple of minutes if noone shows up, i just woke up and gotta take a shit
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>>180340262
Cleric meme is unironically the only tutorial boss in the entire series i still get hit by
That nigger has some cheeky moves
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>>180351545
But why don't the nightmare executioners have cones
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Literally everyone in this general
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>>180351651
Ringing at the SRRC now.
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>>180351651
Still ringing btw, not in a hurry.
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>>180351816
The Wheel and the Cone only came after Logarius I think. It's what makes sense to me.
>>>/wsg/1746860
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>>180352093
They wear the EXACT same armor so i think they're his executioners
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realized I still have hoonter of hoonters on so I did a tactical suicide
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>>180352093
I fucking love that they gave the cone head jiggle physics.
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>>180352149
We're past the dark times of dark souls 1's stone capes
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>>180351651
>>180351951
Tried to use the glyph instead of SRRCing, but it's not working. Are you sure you have it open?
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>>180352126
Who are they? Logarius? Ludwig? Nightmare giants? Executioners?
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>>180351285
What part of it is shit advice, anon?
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>>180352385
Nightmare executioners
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>>180352438
They wear the same exact attire as who?
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>>180352126
Well their robes are white (despite all the blood around) while the robes we find at Cainhurst are grey. It's a minor difference though.
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>>180352476
As the coneheads
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>Beginning to get tired of Bloodborne

what do
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>>180352697
Search porn of bloodborne
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>>180352432
He suggests not to bother with 27.2s.
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>>180352697
Take a break, play a shittier game for 1-2 months, realize BB is the greatest game on any modern console, come back.
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>>180352770
I already jerk off to the waifus of /bbg/, now what?
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>>180352853
Shoot yourself to cure your shit taste and accept your new waifu
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>>180350936
>Is there any examples of trick weapons IRL?

Trick weapons have been tried, but historically making weapons more complicated has always been a bad idea. Battle puts a fuckton of stresses on things. It's historically been hard enough to make a solid steel sword that won't get totally fucked up within 3 strikes.
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>>180350936
If you tried to swing a real life trick weapon it would break on the first hit
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I knew it could happen but it's the first time it did for me.
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>>180350936
Attach this to one of those inflatable rubber wiggly things and you'll have amyarm.
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>>180348678
thats reallly good, anon
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>>180353136
They're kinda fragile
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>>180352792
Because you shouldn't.

50 Arc saif with a fire abyssal with a flat fire secondary bonus:
608 AR (578 + 30 flat)

The same saif with a 27.2% instead of saif fire abyssal:
604 AR (589 + 15 flat)

The first saif does more damage with every move with a modifier less than 1.36. That's most of them.
>>
Bloodborne 2 when?
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>>180353226
>Kamui with the monocular

cheeky lad
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>>180353314
Whenever Sony pays for it. I'm sure other parties would pay for it, but it's entirely on Sony's shoulders.

Note: Miyazaki apparently hates making sequels, so lower expectations.
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>>180353314
When Bloodborne comes to PC.
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>>180353473
Every time
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>when you've been whacking it to all sorts of bloodborne porn the past 2 days
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>>180353427
Are there still rumours about a similiar game like BB or Das?

>>180353473
pic related
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>>180349898
>>180349898
>>180349898
>>180349898
>>180349898
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>>180353226
Why would you make a webm out of that, anon?
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>>180353679
Try the black church attire except for the head
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>>180349898
>>180353679
If you want to do a plague doctor theme definitely gonna want the crow mask. Gascan, black church or butcher chest piece, surgical long gloves for hands (because it makes the most sense) and as for pants I'd say Old Hunter pants, isn't there a thing somewhere that says they tied something around a leg to prevent beast blood from infecting them? Superstitions would go well with a plague doctor theme.
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>>180353561
DO IT FOR HER.
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>>180353561
What kinda porn?
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>>180353679
madmans
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>make new character cause old one sucks for pvp
>try cuckhammer cause people suck it's dick everytime here
>it's the most plebian weapon in the entire series
why is everyone here such a faggot
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>>180353253
>muh +15s on muh low attack modifiers
.7 low enough?
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>>180353809
I think the skirt would fit well with what google showed me.
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>>180353513
I wish I could've been there to see their reaction when they were all proven wrong.
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>>180353887
Which cuckhammer is that? Kirk-, our lord and savior, based Str god? Or Boom-, the living meme?
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>>180353887
No, anon. You're the faggot.
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>>180353967
>talking shit about the Boomhammer
square up bitch nigga
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>>180354023
>that HP
Is that FRC Frontier?
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>>180354023
This is amazing fashion and weapon choice. If it ain't got a kick...
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>>180353917
DELET
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>>180354075
No, that was from when I was still putting together my Powder Kek themed build. Such a fun fucking build in both PVP and coop. Big numbers and explosions abound.

>>180354094
IT
JUST
AIN'T
WORTH
IT
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>>180353967
Kikehammer
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>>180354095
menacing
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>>180354095
I can't tell if he's holding his hand to the side in some flamboyant pose or if its just his cape or rifle.
Dark Alfred is scary.
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>>180353826
>>180353869
The kind that gets me banned if i post it anywhere but /trash/.
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>>180354628
Amelia with a dick?
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>>180354931
Nah, that's gay.
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>>180354968
Yes and that's why it's banned
right?
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>>180353917
>m-maybe he won't notice I cherrypicked kirk and ludwig's
It's almost as if this works differently for converted weapons with high AR.

Run the same experiment with viable weapons, whose ARs don't reach the 700s, like:
>saw spear
>saw cleaver
>saif
>cane
>stake driver
>church pick (arguably viable)
>hunter's axe (probably not at all viable)

You know, so it isn't obvious you're intentionally choosing shitty converted weapons to try to apply some egotistical bandaid over your poor math and similarly poor time management in the form of farming watchers like a fucking retard.

I'm opting to let slide the fact that you tested this on the doll because despite the fact that it makes your results look a little better, you probably have nothing else to test this with.
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Anyone up for helping me beat up Laurence? Ringing at the fog, PW will be egg
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>>180355194
I'll switch characters now, but y'know, inb4 Segalt.
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>>180355232
There would still be a slot open if he came.
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>>180355194
Don't summon Valtr like that other anon the other day.
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>>180355095
>w-w-whatever!
Sasuga, internet.
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Still got one more slot open if anyone wants to join

>>180355303
I would never.
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>>180355349
LAST WARNING
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How the fuck do you people pick names for characters?
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>>180355490
Just have character templates you reuse.
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>you will never know what cut content is hidden in Bloodborne's files
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F
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>>180355490
Depends on how your character looks in terms of face, attire, weapons, and whatever autistic backstory you think up for them. I usually like to go with Germanic names for my characters. Erwin, Franz, Frieda, etc.
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>tfw killed Ludwig on my first attempt during my first ever playthrough because I was an idiot that did a shit ton of chalices beforehand

I'm actually not even going to try out the other bosses in this case. I'll just activate ng+ or make a new character.
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>>180355781
If only he wasn't so bullyable with multiple players. His music is top notch.
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>>180355349
Did you think I wouldn't notice the +15 flat radial in the first setup? Subtracting 14 (about the difference in damage between a +15 flat physical and +15 flat elemental cold) from the first hit, the second setup (mentioned about an hour ago: >>180353253) wins.

Quit trying to skew the numbers. Nothing's going to happen to you if you're wrong. Tomorrow is a new day. Use it to better yourself.
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>>180355781
>>180355860
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>>180355743
Probably just questlines that I never would have followed anyways because miyazaki's cryptic quests are a pain in the ass to do without a guide.
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>>180354249
What numbers were you getting from the gatling gun without that much BLT?
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>>180356446
I can't remember too well, been forever since I used that build. I think I did like 80 to 100 damage per round on players. It's not much, but more than what I'd get from a Pistol.
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Anyone spelunking?
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I'm embarrassed to ask for help here for what I can tell is such a common problem, but I'm at a loss as to why I'm not getting the Hunter's Essence trophy. I'm certain I have every weapon and firearm in the game in my inventory right now (although some are lost an uncanny, is that what's stopping me from getting the trophy?). Apparently you can sometimes fix this issue by going into NG+ and grabbing another torch from Yharnam, but that hasn't worked for me. Is there something else I might be unaware of?
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>>180356840
Did you get beast claws?
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>>180356840
Are you sure you have every single firearm and weapon?
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>>180356741
I'll set up Ihyll in a moment if you'd like. Just gonna slay a boss on an alternate character first.
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>>180356840
Use the only good wiki as a checklist. Make sure you have all the normal versions of everything.
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/p/weapons.html
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>>180356840
Make a checklist and check it thoroughly, with no assumptions made. I went through the exact same thing over a year ago.
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>>180356741
just need a usable triangle for my wheel and them i'll make an frc ihyll for another CHUNKY SPELUNKY
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What are the lore implications of this?
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>>180357181
Amydagla playing around with you.
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>>180357181
>Bloodborne will never be patched again
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>>180355967
>If you arbitrarily lower your AR to make the other anon right, he's right!

Wow, anon, you caught me.

To make two Cold Abyssals and an Elemental Abyssal do more damage than two Cold Abyssals and one 27, I have to run both Colds on the 27 setup with no flat bonuses.

Since I can run one or both Colds with +15s, on what planet does that make three Abyssals a better setup?
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>>180357181
NOT ENOUGH INSIGHT
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Alright lads, time for another FRC Ihyll spelunking adventure.
Glyph is 4p345w76
Pass is snake
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>>180356584
Do you remember how much BLT you had?
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>>180353226
>full set
Come on, Eggo
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>>180357445
Like 7 or 8, probably. I didn't level it much. I just know that I had a good gem on the minigun.
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>>180357427
REVVING
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The weird thing about Yahar'gul is that the music changes dynamically with your surroundings. So it's not just creepy background music, there's an actual choir of cultists somewhere in there singing.
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>>180357427
Coming
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>>180356840
Buy the starter weapons from the shop again
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>>180357305
Earth.
Not only is a cold radial with +15 flat an extremely rare find, it wasn't even discussed here >>180353253.

If you still want to play that game, with a saif yet again:
>Cold radial (with +15 flat)
>Cold triangle (with +15 flat)
>Abyssal waning(with +15 flat)
>578 modifiable damage + 45 flat
vs
>Cold radial (with +15 flat)
>27.2% Triangle
>Cold Waning (with +15 flat)
>589 modifiable damage + 30 flat
again results in the abyssal waning setup being superior for modifiers under 1.36.

Just stop. Your triangle isn't as good as you think it is. Stop trying to force watcher farming on people that don't know any better.
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>>180357886
>Seeing that chunky lad player ghost in front of me.

SOON.
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>>180327527
after being a wheel lord for 66 hours i've decided to fuck about with a bloodtinge build
does pic related look about right?
I honestly have no idea what to use other than chikage tbqh
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>>180357969
Reiter might be good. Bonus style points if you use it with Evelyn and go full cowboy.
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>>180357969
VIT 50
END 13
STR 14
SKL 15
BLT 50
ARC 6
14 str for Bloodletter, 15 skl for Bowblade + Chikage
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>>180357967
you still there? i might restart my ps4 if this takes any longer
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anyone want to tag along for elder farming in Isz? layer 3 glpyh is jemmjmpi ringing outside boss fog will be savescumming so let me know when you're at the layer
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>>180358149
I just did the ol' Silencing blank -> re-ring to see if it helped because I saw a player ghost do it too and it gave me a giggle but yeah, I'm still here.
I might restart too, just in case.
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>>180357969
Drop VIT, END or both to have 50 BLT.
You shouldn't need more than 20 END.
Put one more into SKL to use Bowblade.
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>>180358106
>>180358217
Cool was leaning towards this at first but thought you guys would call me a stinky idiot for having less than 20 end
Cheers
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>>180358149
I've got Gud Hunter, so maybe try restarting.
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>>180358275
15 END is more than enough.
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>>180327527
Dark Souls 3 Vs Bloodborne lads

which one has the better soundtrack
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>>180358318
will do
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How do you people solo the fetid/rotted/cursed combo of doom? I've tried doing it alone and it's a living hell. Especially if the chalice has some ass pounders like abhorrent beast or bloodletting beast.
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How did you survive that grab?
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This is some Sens Fortress level shit.
I'll wait where you chunky lads died.
>>180358751
Nanomachines.
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turns out i still had my eye runes on, so was unexpectedly squishy there
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>>180358373
Bloodborne. Bloodborne has some variety in it's tracks, while most of DaS3 is overly loud and using every instrument and voice in the entire orchestra. There's a reason Maria's theme goes to shit.
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>>180346416
Serious question, what are the sliders for the eyes? I've been wanting to make a glass eye, and that left eye looks perfect.
Why don't we have eyepatches as an option?
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>>180353917
>>180355349
>Comparing a 27.2% triangle to a Cold Abyssal with flat phys (and WPN durability lmfao) instead of bolt
>Using fucking LHB of all things
Is this meant to be bait? That weapon is already an edge case when it comes to gem setups. What a terrible example, honestly.

If I go in-game and test these setups directly against eachother

>Cold Abyssal
>27.2% fire gem
>Cold Abyssal with +15 fire

to

>Cold Abyssal
>Cold Abyssal with +14 fire
>Fire Abyssal with +14 fire

The second consistently beats the first for R1 damage (multiple R1s, too). I tested Saws and Cane. There's some variance when it comes to specific attacks but that's it.
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Alright, turns out the Witches of Ihyll can immobilise you just as well as the Hemwick variety.
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>>180358751
Not that anon but assuming it was just a regular enemy grab you can spam buttons to escape faster. I usually spam R1/L1, I think everything works but I'm not sure.
It saved me from a surprise gargoyle the other day
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First time I saw a piñata outside fixed dungeons. That's a rare find.
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>>180359314
>piñata
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>>180359020
Yeah, he's carefully skirted around the numbers.
Also, the variance is due to damage modifiers. To get a good estimate for the damage modifier breakpoint at which the 27.2% setup beats the fire abyssal (+ flat) setup, solve for M in:
(setup 1 modifiable damage)*M + (setup 1 flat damage) = (setup 2 modifiable damage)*M + (setup 2 flat damage), where setup X modifiable damage + setup X flat damage = setup X AR.

Any modifier > M in this case will result in the 27.2% setup being better.
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Fashion
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Don't wait for me this time
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>When the lad is too chunky to fit through the door.
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>>180359653
There's an easy solution to this
Barge through the door, breaking it down by way of your chunkiness
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Need help with story chalice ebritas. She's being such a huge cunt for me this time. Pass is fuckayys
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>>180359653
yeah that was weird, after i stopped making contact i couldnt move. why did it have to be piggu again
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>>180359879
Piggu of instant death is fun for all the family. Never seen it in this arena before though.
This has been a fun layer 1, can only hope it keeps up as we go deeper.
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>>180330227
How else are you supposed to get cold blood, whatever the fuck that is?
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How would you feel if in BB2 they removed the right hand/left hand weapon restriction, allowing you to dual wield guns or dual wield melee weapons, with unique movesets depending on what you dual wield?

What other features would you want to see added?
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I really wish that bloodborne wont have a sequel
i want it to stand on its own
another dlc would be nice tho
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Where do I have to farm to get 31,5% BLT oos gems?
Is y592byza alright?
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>do a visceral with a blunt wheel
>end up getting in the way of Boss' rocket punch
My bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMam6Fj_uaU
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>>180359605
>Golden Ardeo
>Cainhurst Armor
Heresy/10
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>>180360224
That would not work because of the weapon transformations
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>>180360374
>falling for obvious bait
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anyone else have a fresh frc chalice?
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"Good hunter, have you seen the thread of light? Just a hair, a fleeting thing, yet I clung to it, steeped as I was in the stench of blood and beasts. I never wanted to know, what it really was. Really, I didn't."

What did he mean by this? I'm slightly baffled.
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i need to farm waning abyssals. is there a particularly easy elder boss for it?

i will host if anyone wants to farm
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>>180360575
He wants to find that Guidance 3 rune.
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>>180360413
They could potentially work those into the movesets in some way, and simply leave certain weapons that involve two-handing or splitting as is.

It's just a bit of silly speculating, is all.
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>>180360305
naapatbx

it's harder to get to since it's at layer 3, but once you get there it's worth it. the space is cramped, but as long as you circle the fatty and make his back face the entrance, it should be fine.
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ok, piggy took 7 tries but im ringing at the l2 lamp now
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>>180346416
She's a beaute.
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Witches do not fuck around here.
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>>180360639
I assume Ludwig was wreaking havoc and slaughtering beasts around town, then he found an umbilical cord, and he developed a unexplained fascination towards it, as it possesses ancient power.

He didn't care what it actually is, he just fancied it. Then he consumed it and it kinda mixed in with the old blood in his body and he became a foul monstrosity. Bearing a curse for his boldness.
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>>180361039
>These fucking massive bonus areas.
>That undead giant.
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>pig charges when you're right in its face
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>>180360635
Don't farm for cold abyssal wanings. Save your waning slot for an elemental abyssal.
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>tfw you're out of city and can't spelunk with /bbg/ anons
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>>180361434
oh? is this out of date then?

i know to get abyssal bolt from abhorrent but i thought cold waning with flat fire would still do more damage
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i want to cum on cheesecakes soft feet
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>>180361708
i don't think that you'll be able to convert a weapon to fire if you don't put in it an actual fire gem
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>>180361765
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>tfw you haven't played BB in a while
>tfw the first thing you go do is fight Maria with no QS bullets
>tfw you win
Well, that's one way to get back into the game.
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>>180361805
...27.2 triangles? dude
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>>180359602
I didn't carefully do shit. I was just wrong.
My bad.

I'm not ready to concede my opinion, though; while all Colds+Abyssal might do more damage on R1s, which maybe more beneficial, it loses damage on charge attacks, so it's not without compromise. Plus, you either need to farm for the ≥+14 flat secondary for the, frankly, pretty meager gains over Colds+27s' R1s and then lose damage on charge attacks, or you have to farm elemental 27s, can roll basically whatevber secondaries you want on the Colds, and only be missing literally 1-6 damage on the R1s but coming out better on charge attacks.
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>>180361953
MEEEEAAAAA CULPAAAAAAAA
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>>180362110
that is out of the question unless you're using a weapon with low multipliers
we're repeating the same shit every single thread
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You do realize it's just a doll made of wood right? It has no vagina or penis. The Moon Presence did not grant it a reproductive organ, it just brought it to life so because that's what Gehrman wanted.
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I have a question about Oil Urns:
so the wiki says that they make the next fire elemental attack do around double its normal damage. If your next attack is with a physical damage weapon that has fire paper applied, does this mean it doubles the overall split-damage output of the attack? Because fire paper just adds a little fire damage on top of the weapon's physical damage, instead of converting the whole attack to fire damage.

I ask because I was arguing with someone who was telling me that it's super effective to use beast blood pellets, fire paper and oil urns on Laurence (who has 744 fire DEF) if you ignite the oil with a charged R2 on a serrated weapon. Laurence is weak to physical damage, so the only way that could make sense is if the urn doubled the huge beasthood-enhanced serrated physical damage of the weapon (along with the negligible fire damage it would do to Laurence.)
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>>180362330
Are you saying that the Doll is pure and will always remain that way?
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I've been away from BB for a long time, and finally bought the DLC a couple days ago. Couldn't possibly keep away from spoilers for that long, so I knew roughly what each boss was going to be like.
>Get through Ludwig on 2nd try
>"Wow, thought he was going to be worse"
>Failures... pfft, we've already done this boss
>Make it to Maria and fully expected to have my shit destroyed
>Shit was destroyed
>Came back in on the second try with a sense of purpose
>Parried the shit out of her at nearly every opportunity
>Victory

The feeling of accomplishment is quickly washed away by the realization that I will probably never play another game as challenging, rewarding, and fun again.
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>>180362557
you do know there are two other, much harder bosses right?
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what's the earliest bloodtinge weapon you can get? bored to death of the saw cleaver
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>>180362708
Yes I know.
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>>180362730
Rifle Spear in Old Yharnam, I guess?
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>>180362354
>it's super effective to use beast blood pellets, fire paper and oil urns on Laurence
That's a bit of an exaggeration. It also only lasts for the one hit so it isn't going to trivialize the fight by any means.

>so the only way that could make sense is if the urn doubled the huge beasthood-enhanced serrated physical damage of the weapon (along with the negligible fire damage it would do to Laurence.)
I don't think that's how it works.

An anon was in /v/ a couple weeks ago spouting off about it, so I went a took a crack at it with a fire-converted Kirkhammer, AR about 720.

Using an Oiil Urn and R1ing him hit for about 550. So maybe funny, but I don't think you could easily win the fight like that.
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DUDE WHAT IF MY FIREBALLS HAD INFINITE RANGE LMAO
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>>180362761
...and I will relish in the accomplishment after the Orphan and Laurence, but still that thought hangs over me that even if BloodBorne 2 ever materializes, it almost certainly won't be as perfect as this game.
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>Witch of OHKO in an elevated position in a poison swamp with a canon undead giant and a twinblade undead giant.
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>>180362730
Use this and start with the Axe. The earliest one you can get is the Chikage.
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>>180362354
that guy was chatting utter shit, the oil only doubles the next fire damage, so would only add 80 ar to that attack
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>>180361805
You can.

It isn't any good, but you can.
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>>180362907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbK7DfuLEpM
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>>180361708
I did almost none of the things in the chalices section. End-game, I had a normal saif with bolt radials from hamlet and the 16.5% waning from yahar'gul and used that until I unlocked FRC isz. I rushed jemmjmpi for a cold abyssal triangle (did not bother looking for a good secondary bonus), then finished ihyll before farming kkbk8gsj for a cold abyssal radial, and moved on to an ihyll watchdog for a fire radial. For the first set of gems, I didn't bother looking for optimal setups.

>>180362169
Anyone who has ever farmed watchers for specific setups knows that the loot table is too big to be reliable. I hardly give a shit about the meager gains in alternate setups; they're a nice bonus at best. I'm more interested in not having to dig through watchers' ridiculous loot table for 27.2% triangles.

And if you think you can reliably get damage from charged fully charged, I might add; R2s won't give you a big enough modifier to take advantage of your 27.2% triangle, more power to you. You'll need that power to inch the goalpost just a bit further.
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>>180363463
>You'll need that power to inch the goalpost just a bit further.
Rude. I already admitted I was wrong.

I'm already drowning in 27s so the damage is done. No point in trying to get Hotdog and Abho to drop shit. Plus I'd have to farm an entire set of decent Cold triangles.
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>post yfw you really love a part of your favourite weapon's moveset but you are never able to hit anyone in pvp with it
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>>180357969
Don't become a cuck, the Chikage is not a good weapon. Use Bloodletter plus BEEG GUNZ, that thing is a monster and also not a Vileblood weapon so you can continue to PURGE FILTH even as a bloodtinge build.
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FUCKING HMPH, did you guys get him? is there a layer 4?
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>>180363880
We got him to Pth- on the health bar but I was low on vials from the rest of the chalice.
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Need some assistance on The Living Failures. Password is rat
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What would be a better build for a HMS/LW character? 50/25 Arc/Str or 50/25 Str/Arc?
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>>180363778
Don't listen to this dumb wiener, some shitty overdone meme is NOT a good reason to limit your build to one single weapon. Chikage is fun, so is letter
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FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
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>>180364259
>Literally one move
>Fun
Vilebloods, man.
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>>180363972
I had zero vials too and was too afraid to open the menu to use the Bell.
Did you get him?
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Can someone help me at naapatbx? Ringing at first layer lamp pass bbg
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>>180364406
Just because you're too retarded to use the entire moveset doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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>>180364259
>Chikage is fun

>>180364459
>use the entire moveset
>half the moveset of the weapon is useless
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HMPH dead thank god, if I had choked when it was that close I'd never live it down.

No layer 4 I'm afraid, my coen of fuck wearing friends.
Entertaining dungeon, little low on chalice mats but fun either way.
The only loot I got was Lost BoM, so I must already have had everything else from the big chests.
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>>180364406
This is why the executioners turned in to beasts.
They were too retarded to even learn how to use anything but a BIG SMASHY STR WHEEL
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>>180364459
>>180364595
Still doesn't make the rest of its moveset good. It has short reach, poor modifiers, bad swing arcs and it's completely dickall worthless untricked. Bloodletter is infinitely better.
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Fuck HMPH, antifun garbage.
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>>180364542
>"""useless"""
>use it effectively all the time
lol ok?

>>180364639
See above
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>not even 8 am
>nearly 100 degrees

Someone free me from the nightmare.
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>>180362873
>so I went a took a crack at it with a fire-converted Kirkhammer
that wouldn't be the same because your kirkhammer is doing exclusively fire damage, and what hurts Laurence is the physical damage part of the attack. I'm talking about using fire paper so that your weapon is doing split fire and physical damage.

>>180363001
I dunno, when I hit an oil-urn'd enemy with a fire paper weapon it adds a lot more than just +80 damage
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>>180364579
nice one, i had a good time. ive got an untouched ihyll open, but that might be a bit similar, so i'll try to open a loran in an hour or so, would be nice to have you guys again
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>>180364110
nevermind just beat them
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Jesus fuck, the shark giant in the Fishing Hamlet well is fucking terrifying.

And really stronk.
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>>180365096
You do know about the other one down there, right?
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>>180365096
>shark giant
>singular
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>>180365096
>>>>>>gian""""t"""""
oh this should be good
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>>180365125
>>180365152
>>180365160
There's another one?
Oh fuck me.
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>>180365242
Please tell me you have a Shaman Bone Blade, or can buy them easily
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>>180365096
>he doesn't know
look up
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Bloodborne is beautiful for hybrid soulsfags like me; literally every build is meant to maximize its damage by raising another complementary non-physical stat.
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>>180364767
>dick all damage all around
>one trick pony move that has phantom range
>the one move can be seen coming from a mile away
>vilecucks still brag about killing retards who can't space or parry
No wonder you guys gunspam and dodgespam so much, your main is so shit you have to play as a passive bitch.
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>>180363620
You were never the subject at hand. The person that prompted this whole discussion is someone that presumably has access to FRCs but has not yet started farming anything. Again, to that person, I would recommend opting for an elemental waning abyssal because a flat fire secondary from watchdog in loran is less of a crapshoot than a 27.2 fire triangle from watchers.
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>>180365330
I can.
I just got to the area, and I went to the well in the centre of the village.
There's one of those fucking dumbass Winter Lanterns up in there, but all I've found so far is this one shark giant with an anchor who is extremely stronk.
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>>180365360
>play as a passive bitch
>characters actually look like that 99% of the time
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How the hell is he so fast?
He's got a peg leg for fucks sake, and whenever he's not attacking he's slowly limping towards you and he sounds like he's struggling just to breathe
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>>180365684
the same reason why you can only walk with lead elixir but can quickstep without any problems
blood magic n shieet
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>>180365542
>one Lantern
You won't need to worry about the Lantern yet, I've never been hit from up there but the singing doesn't help.
Cheese the first shark giant as much as you can, and use the Bone Blade at about half health. After that, kill the winner.
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>>180365334
>tfw I just looked up after dying
Oh.
OH.
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>>180365542
>one
anon from now one everytime you see one thing just assume there's another one
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>>180365360
No one was ever talking about pvp

>dick all damage
But that's wrong

>one move
>>180364459
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So am I expected to just remove a chalice when I've cleared it? No point in replaying it unless I wanted another of the blood gem type that dropped?
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>>180366097
don't remove lower phtu
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>>180366030
I haven't seen them yet, I can only hear them, and I do expect there to be about 50 of them up there ready to insta-kill me with frenzy.

This gonna be good.
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>>180366097
Pretty much. Lower Loran has some good farming spots but otherwise yeah you can just remove them unless you want to leave them there for helping out players through dungeons. Even then you can just SRRC at the very first tombstone with a set password.
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>>180366187
That place is a goldmine for Inflicted Organs and Ritual Blood, I almost always have it open.
>>180366194
You remember how there were two right by each other on that bridge at Mensis?
Remove any cover you had there.
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>>180366097
when you create a chalice of a certain type e.g pthumeru labyrinth, you can remake an infinite amount of that chalice using the chalice search function at an altar
chalices when beaten never respawn their bosses but individual enemies respawn meaning it's good to farm specific enemies and gems - check the chalice dungeon speedrun guide for which chalices should be kept open for farming on the way
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>>180366287
>Remove any cover you had there
>multiple Lanterns with no cover
Urge to maim doll out of spite rising
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>>180366069
Yes, anon. One move. Besides the unzip the shitcake is just like any other weapon, if other weapons didn't do damage untricked and their tricked modes poisoned you.
The Bloodletter is superior in every single aspect.
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>>180366420
Don't take your anger out on her, just be sure to have as much Frenzy resistance as you can. You have the Deep Sea rune, right?
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Anyone care to help with descendant? I'm unable to finish him off when he starts chimping out in phases 2
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>>180364445
still need help? what layer are you at?

pig boss will be brutal
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>>180366830
Pass?
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>>180366420
just parry them and be invulnerable to frenzy my man
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>>180366846
hmph
I'm level 43 btw
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>>180366802
Yes.
I'll just stack as much Frenzy resist as I can, and just book it.
And maybe kill a few Winter Lanterns on the way.
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>>180366467
I've never claimed it wasn't. I claimed Cuckage was fun. Which you literally cannot say that it isn't for anyone but you
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>>180366892
Wear the regular Hunter's Set in conjunction with that, or the Ashen Hunter if you killed Djura, for maximum protection.
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>>180366420
>>180366287
Those lanterns are so much easier than the mensis dicks though
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>>180366889
Lamp or fog?
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>>180366963
Chikage is Saw Spear level of fun
R1 >L1 >L1 >L1
L1 > R1 L1 L1> R1
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Need help with Nightmare of Mensis, pass is askeladd. Ringing at lamp
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>>180367121

>>180364459
I'll quote myself as many times as I need to
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Thanks for the help with descendant, guy was driving me nuts.
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>>180367121
You forgot the panic R1>R1>R1>R1 when they get too close
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>>180367309
Why don't you give me an example, teach me how to use the Cuckblade moveset.
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anyone up for a spelunk? :>
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>>180366840
Got it, farming now that shotgun fatty. Anyway thank you.
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>>180367446
>teach me how to use the Cuckblade moveset.
>dash
>if the opponent stays away, dash again
>if they shoot, dash again
>if they dash in any direction not at you, dash again
>if they move in any way within 10' of you, tab L1
Congratulations, you are a Chikagay master.
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Sorry Segalt reringing
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Is it worth going to 25/50 for a threaded cane?

I'm currently 45/10/14/50/7/6. Trying to decide between 50/20/14/50/8/6 and 50/10/25/50/7/6 for my endpoint.

I've also considered 45/20/25/50/7/6 but that puts me at BL103...
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>>180367562
I would love to spelunk. Will you be making the chalice, or will I?
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>>180367614
You forgot
>hold the L2 button and don't let go
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>>180367697
i only have the materials for an isz one sadly, and i know they can be kinda boring, so if you want to do other dungeons you should be the one making it, sorry!
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>>180367767
Any dungeon works for me, I have literally everything chalices could give me. Rev up that Isz root, post glyph and pass, I'll be there shortly.
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>>180367697
>>180367767
I'm down for a spelunk as well
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>>180367567
careful not to let him go out of bounds

i find circling around him so his butt is towards the entrance to be the best method

also watch out for spiders
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>>180367696
The Cane scales poorly from STR, it's a pure SKL weapon. Burial Blade, Pick and Saif will gain more from it but they do very well at base STR too.
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>>180367696
Consider 10 bloodtinge for access to Reiter. And Bowblade too I guess, but mostly Reiter.
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I'm sorry I'm retarded reringing
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>>180367874
>>180367883
Ok! FRC isz glyph is upjfrvjz
Ringing at layer one
Pass is cable
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>>180368130
Mama always told me never to trust a seed with no numbers. Ringing small res at the lamp now.
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>>180367446
Use literally any move in any combo. You've won. By the way, >>180366069
>No one was ever talking about pvp
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Thank you for putting up with a beastly idiot Segalt
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need help in bullying maria, NG, pass is plague
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Nice work!
Only notable loot was deep sea rune in pre boss +300 (frenzy res)
And one rb(5) in main area
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Impromptu boys?
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>>180367893
50/20/14/50/8/6 gives me repeating pistol and I could make decent use of the saif, burial blade, rakuyo, blade of mercy and pick. The change from 14 to 25 str only seems to give me 15 or so damage on the saif/pick/burial blade so that doesn't really seem worth it.

>>180367969
I tried the reiterpallasch anon and mostly I just find it boring, especially tricked mode. Also it's only got like 150 durability so it's a real PITA to use with durability down gems. (Bowblade is even worse, it's like 140 durability)
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>>180369043
You get anyone? I'm ringing.
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>>180369246
i'm down. where at?
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>>180369440
Pthu, just so more people join.
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>>180369436
nope, I have achieved no one
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>>180369627
Have you tried restarting your console?
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>>180369556
bootin up

this should piss off some americans at work who can't join but still browse /bbg/
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>>180369627
You set to worldwide? I'm ringing.
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>forgot boulder pattern
Shameful
Also third eye rune 4 pearl slugs and 1 yellow backbone in treasure room
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>>180369691
just finished
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>>180369669
>this should piss off some americans at work who can't join but still browse /bbg/
CORRECT
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22 health left, alexis
>>
kosm
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>>180369894
Allright l2 done
>3 bastards of loran on main area
What are they doing in isz is beyond me
Also 2 rb(5)
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Impromptu at pthu right now. Come piss off burgers like
>>180370178
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>>180370453
this
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didn't mean to gesture
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>you're chilling in your favorite cursed pthumerian labyrinth
>harnessing ancient knowledge of the cosmic gods
>you go back to Byrgenwerth to slay some college pussy
>this guy blocks your path and utters:
>''Hand it over. That thing. Your Insight. For my mind's eyes.''

How do you respond?
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>>180370635
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nah it's cool, I'll call for a burger fc after work.
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That bloodletter damage.
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>dash into augur

regret
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So far in l3 we have a lost lhb,around 14 tomb mould (5), 8 slugs and a couple of rb (5)
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>>180370635
omw
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Nice work! As you can see there's a layer 4
never bullied elder so hard
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>>180371395
We all do dumb shit sometimes, anon. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Imprompthumeru is getting lively!
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tristan post build pls
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>>180371887
Spelunk team got a free spot...?
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>>180373076
Why?
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>Another room like this

I'm getting PTSD from that spelunk a while ago
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>>180373360
Sadly not
>ayyd through pillar
>also that floating trap
I love spelunking
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>>180373361
it seems like you are overlevelled, you hit hard on blt and arc weapons and ive only been able to invade you, not the other way round, if not then it looks like a cool build to try
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>>180373361
It's fun to see what others are working with
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>>180373615
>>180373664
It's a 120 build i'm sure if I even post a screenshot you lot are gonna scream at me for an entire thread.
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i want to die are you the 99 blt guy?
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>>180373739
Honestly, meh. It's a lot better than 117. Is it a pvp dedicated build?
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>>180373749
Only BL82 right now, so it's only 64 'tinge
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>>180373739
i wonder why anyone would do that?
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>>180373827
>117 is fair and balanced
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>>180373898
>7 VIT
Of all the times to complain about 117s
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>>180373898
>7vit
>bitches about 117

sasuaga
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>>180373818
Any build I make is a dedicated PvP one. PvE in this game has gotten to the point of being really boring to me nowdays.

Not gonna hold builds back to play in fc's that are run once a week.
>>
I have reached the eldritch truth. The true enlightment. I am everything there is to be and know everything there is to know. I've grown eyes, and can now see far beyond any limits. The truth is vitality is not a meme and I regret my previous human form existence, for it shackles me.
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>amy stomped twice in a row
I didnt know it could do that
Reringing
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>>180374067
>i need to overlevel and play like a cunt to have fun
>>
>choir garb looks like its glowing under certain lights

A E S T H E T I C
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>>180374067
>once a week
>is participating in an impromptu
That's understandable though. Although many would urge you to make a 98 if you're going to be a regular. Including me.
>>
Can I stack Clawmark runes for ultimate cheese?
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>>180374452
so does the broccoli head in really dark rooms
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>>180374434
Isn't 120 the most popular level overall?
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>>180374496
He is a regular and has been for about a year
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>>180374595
>broccoli head

N O T A E S T H E T E
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>>180374434
>I only PvP inside my circlejerk on a vitanamese shadow puppets board because people play like meanies and I don't want to deal with it.
>>180374496
I've been a regular in here since the games launch mate.
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>>180374618
it is on reddit, 99% of people here are 98, or within 5 or so levels of that
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>>180374823
The reddit meta is 150 you silly goober. 120 is the twitch meta which people who play 50/50 builds are at.
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>>180374823
>Reddit
It isn't just Reddit, it's literally anyone outside of this thread. Don't be delusional. People just carry over habits from the previous games.
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>>180374434
>>180374496
are you two autists for real

jesus christ
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>>180374695
and in that whole time you never thought "hey maybe i should spend a few hours making a new build so I dont have a huge advantage over everyone"
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>>180375073
Are you retarded or pretending


Have you ever considered just for a moment
that maybe
there is a chance
that it is possible
that he has other builds and this one is new
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>>180374695
>I've been a regular in here since the games launch mate.
The fuck, dude? Make an appropriate build, then. There is literally no excuse other than laziness and wanting an advantage.
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Managed, thanks Gregor and Yuria! Pretty meh chalice overall, but it's an isz so eh, i recorded the trap for webm
There are a shitton of ritual blood and tomb moult throughout the layers, at least 20-25+ of them. Then the usual slugs and a yellow backbone
For runes we have a deep sea,an eye, a great deep sea and a wisdom, so it could either be a rune i have (probably a hp/stamina) or a blood rock.
See you next spelunk! (Or fc)
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>>180375073
I'm in the progress of making a 98 but it's BLT so it will probably make you complain either way.
>>180375204
Maybe because it's only since nu-/bbg/ started to be a thing is when people starting being super autisitc about 98 the only reason that meta was formed is because people were scared of fighting 150's
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>>180374823
120 is the meta outside of 4chan, including twitch/facebook/reddit/randoms in mensis
plus the bbg fc has always been 80-120
>>180375073
I beat 120s all the time as a 100, if you're blaming levels for losses just level up
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>>180375215
Thanks for having me! There was also the garden of eyes which is a pretty rare mob spawn, only seen those a couple times before in a chalice.

I was surprised we could actually jump on the trap, wasn't expecting that.
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>>180375137
Holy fuck m8 read the conversation before replying
>>
>people have to conform to MY playstyle if they want to play in MY sekrit club


I knew this general had deteriorated
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>>180375278
>Maybe because it's only since nu-/bbg/ started to be a thing is when people starting being super autisitc about 98
That's just straight up completely wrong.

A meta, regardless of the level, exists to provide a standard and a level playing field for those who show up regularly.
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>>180375496
No it isn't my newfriend people literally never gave a shit about this before this layer of autism that came flooding in over the last 6-8 months.
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>>180375496
You are so wrong

Nobody gave a shit if you went over or under 98
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>>180375367
/bbg/ has been shit for months my man. At some point, it became an unironic satire of itself. There was always some autistic level posting and BLT hate and shit, but somehow that transitioned into the new normal.

You know shit's fucked when people crucify you for using the Chikage but are okay with Saws and Bloodletter. Or when people actively keep track of how many times they R1 because they don't want to be seen as a spammer. Or people that actually try to win in any regard are chastised and ridiculed.

I honestly cannot wait for this general to die off.
>>
>>180375278
>>180375319
>>180375367
if you are 22 levels higher than everyone the thats just stupid, the whole point of a build is that you cant have everything, but if theres a guy who has strong ranged attacks, melee attacks, pressure options, hp, and stam then there is no counter to anything he does, which just makes boring, unfair fights
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>>180375779
If you can't beat it at 98 level up because I can guarentee the levels aren't stopping you from winning, you'll just switch to complaing about his weapon choice
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>>180375779
>No counter to anything I do
I'm using the chikage shoot me when I press l1 and you've taken out the strongest attack in that moveset. Or just don't sandbag with shit weapons

Alongside that I have 8 stamina. The build i'm using ain't anything compared to a 50/50 build.
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>>180375758
>people crucify you for using the Chikage but are okay with Saws and Bloodletter
The problem is that you don't understand how anonymous imageboards work. When one autists gives you shit for using a weapon and the 99 other posters in the thread don't, that isn't "being chastised by everyone". 99% of us don't give a fuck what you use or, for the most part, how you play
>>
>>180375758
>people crucify you for using the Chikage

Please tell me this isn't real. The best fucking PvP player ever on /bbg/ used a Chikage and raped 99% of people by a huge margin. He could've been using a +0 cane and still won.
>>
>just got completely destroyed by a guy with like 400 hp
Maybe i should stop for today
>>
Is anyone spelunking right now?
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>>180375553
It has been a point of contention since release. You are either lying about how long you've been here or are baiting for some reason I can't fathom. Or you simply don't pay attention and are making false claims.
>>
>>180375994
250 when cut.
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>>180375779
>can't counter 120 builds
>they have everything

laughing IRL
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>>180376072
>since release
98 wasn't a fucking thing at release
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>>180375553
No this has always been an issue which is why the 98 standard even became a thing.
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>>180376072
No man seriously people in FC's have not sperged to the degree they have here in the last 6-8 months I don't know who you are but your lying to yourself if you think people ripped each apart about this.
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>>180376072
>It has been a point of contention since release.

No it hasn't. /bbg/ had majority consensus on 98 just a few months after release. Only autists like Lucifer tried to argue it.

The fact that you think that shows how new you are.
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>>180375758
>newfags are unironically trying to argue things they are clearly ignorant about

what the fuck. this shit used to be contained to /v/
>>
got 4 points to spend for a pure arc build, where do i put them?
>>
/bbg/, I have a 50/25 Skill/Arc build, a 60/30something Arc/Str build and a 50/50 Blt/Skill build. Which one is the best for a poison build ? Or should I make a high vitality/endurance one, with min weapon requirements just to fill them with poison gems ? Recommendations ?
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>>180376336
>consensus
>Me and 10 other samefags agreed, during the dead hours! Anyone who disagrees is an autistic reddit poster!
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>>180373827
I-I didn't think the cannon would oneshot you. I should've checked your magnificent build first.
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>>180376620
Do you want to use weapons other than the starting weapons, Saw Spear, and Kos Parasite? If so then level STR/DEX a bit. Most people only ever invest enough to use the Saif. If you don't want to to do that then just dump it into END.
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>>180376620
you dont need 50 vit my man, drop to 41/20/18/14/5/50, gives you almost every weapon in the game
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>>180376620
More Arc, what are you, a beastly idiot?
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>>180376620
Arc. You'll still get some decent damage on tools past 50, and you're too low on str/skl to meet reqs for better weapons.
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>>180376779
You also shot me while i was blood bulleting so that didn't help
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>>180376336
That's the exact point I'm trying to make.. 98 was decided on early and then people would try to change it or overlevel and they'd be chastised. 98 is not a recent development like >>180375553 is trying to claim
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>>180376620
>pure arc
>less than 70 arc
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>>180376907
Y-you shot first.
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>>180376704
I wish you had reading comprehension. The consensus about 98 happened a long, long, long time ago.


>me and 10 others!!!

You and your retard buddy arguing it two years later doesnt mean shit.
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>>180376913
But you're phrasing it as if its some hot topic of debate and its always being changed.

The guy with the 117 build or whatever is saying what I'm saying, which is it has never been argued on any grand scale. There have 1-2 fuckos that always poke their heads out occasionally and try to argue it and everybody ignores them or tells them to fuck off.
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man I am trying to make a twink for the first time and I can beat ludwig's beast form like he's a piece of cake every time, but his sword form keeps destroying me. The sword form is easy when you do enough damage to stun him and visceral him quickly, but for me it takes like 25 R1 poke-attacks to get him to the point where he staggers, and I have to dodge like 25 sword swings relentlessly aggressive that seem to hit all around him in 180 degree arcs in the meantime (most with different offset delays and timings, where each one takes away ~50% of my HP). I only do quick R1 attacks because I get hit if I try anything that takes longer he's extremely liable to slash me (except when he's tired from finishing a combo)

his second form is really *not* that easy, at least when you don't do enough damage to just quickly own him with staggers and viscerals
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>>180376620
Drop VIT and END a bit to use more weapons or have more ARC
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any improvements you anons would suggest? going to run three health runes.
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>>180377146
My point is that the majority adhere to it, and will argue for it, or at least against 117s. Whether you want to think so or not.
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>>180376703
answer pls ;-;
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I would rather watch the anon jerk off other anon's in the thread than watch you autists argue over 10 ~ 20 levels in a non-competitive, casual RPG for the Playstation console
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maybe this is better?
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Could use some help with Micolash.

Password is bbg if anyone is free
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>>180377331
best poison build is wheel with base stats and as much endurance as possible
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>>180377452
That's a really bad build.
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>>180376973
"10 others samefags" means one guy. You can literally reach a consensus amongst yourself by samefagging. Consensus in an anonymous board is a stupid concept.

Expecting even a portion of anons to follow a "consensus" that supposedly happened a long, long time ago is stupid.

You can argue for the BL98 meta, sure. But don't use the consensus argument ever again. Or else some anon like me will point out that they reached a consensus about BL802, and then you're back to the starting point, arguing which consensus is better.
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>>180377452
>>180377271
XD LOL GOOD ONE WHAT A FRESH JOKE XD
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Besides the gem types. Is there a reason to switch to an uncanny/lost version of my weapon?
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>>180377509
Why? It invades and is invaded by 98s and can run 3 health runes. In other words, it has no advantage over the 98s in the regular fight clubs.

>>180377639
Who's joking?
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>>180377169
Watch lobos' fist only run on Ludwig. The second form lasted for a good 20 minutes, should give you an idea of how to dodge his swings.
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>>180377546
A different anon here. BL 802 is impossible. BL 544 sounds good though.

All FCs should be BL 544.

This way no one can have an advantage over others!
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>>180377318
O, I see.

Idk. I stopped playing/coming here like a year ago or so, so i cant comment on what its been like recently. But like 6 months prior to and after Christmas of 2015, nobody would argue against other meta levels. Nobody gave a shit about you going over under, through or inside of 98.

>>180377546
Look buddy. When I say a long time ago I don't mean two months ago. I mean like 4-5 months after release. Two years ago. Everybody on /bbg/ agreed that 98 was the best meta. When the general was most populated.

You trying to argue that the 98 meta that has been the staple of /bbg/ for two years now was a result of one person samefagging so fucking hard that the entire general accepted it, is just retarded
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>>180377787
LOL HE'S PRETENDING TO BE SERIOUS XDXDXD EBIN!!!!1!
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>>180377787
Exchange that end for STR and run a 50/50 with 2hp and an 1end rune and you'll two shot people up to 150's with a memwigs and do dumb damage with a saw spear.
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>>180376821
>>180376854
>>180376862
>>180376904
>>180377186

Thanks anons. I thought that saw spear, ARCane and kos(m) parasite were pretty much the go to ARC weapons so I didn't invest in using anything else really.
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>>180377467
Thanks for the help!
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>>180375758
>hating on the bloodletter

No you were the faggot all along
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>>180378067
B...but that would go past the true BL120 of the BBG fight club anon, I could never EVER do that.
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>>180378281
Nah it wouldn't drop the END you really do not need it also drop w.e vit you have left over.
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>>180378067
Don't encourage this degenerate
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>>180375975
You got any webms of Mercure shitting on kids?
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>>180377960
I guess I'mma kill some time by reading 4chan archives from Summer 2015, and see if I can find this consensus on which everyone agreed.
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>>180378463
Why would people save other people's webms
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>>180378635
i save every webm i see one of my characters in desu
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Is the tricked form of simon's bowblade actually usable in a pure SKL build? I was considering
50/20/11/50/10/6. Seems like it'd be OK with 3 27.2 tempering phys gems.
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>>180378839
Dammit I meant
50/20/11/50/10/7
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Fite Club still going?
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>>180378463
No, I wish. Does he not post them anymore?


He used to post like 15-20 every FC, and would make FC compilation videos. They're probably still on YT, but i cant remember what they're called. It was disturbing how good he was
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>>180378635
If it's cool? Why wouldn't you?
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>>180378635
>he doesn't have a folder with highlights from every relevant /bbg/ regular
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>>180378992
Why would you save webms that aren't your own

I'd also hardly call half of the webms in the thread highlights :^)
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>>180378619
Are you braindead or something dude? Why else would everybody still be using 98 today. It didn't just come out of thin air. Are you seriously this new that today is the first day you're seeing people talking about 98?

But dont let me stop you from wasting your time.
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>>180379316
You do realize why 98 came about right?
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>>180379259
>>180378982
Are you saying you've never once saved a webm itt?
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>>180379397
Not him, but it came about from people arguing about levels (80 and 100 mostly), and 98 was the compromise that made everyone happy.
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>>180379259
I could understand someone saving killians. Or 'mercures' i guess.

He was legitimately on a completely different level. I only ever saw one guy put up a decent fight vs him, and it was a laggy guy using a 120 saif build
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>>180379316
What, afraid I'd find objectivity? I'm stuck on a train with nothing else to do, might as well.

I searched a bit, and indeed there were at least two seemingly different anons who both recommended 98. One of them said the meta level is 98-120, however.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/110219168/#110273436
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Best way to get Tomb Mold 5? Been killing rats for 30 mins, all I got were 5 molds.

I don't have Isz yet.
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>>180379517
Nope. Never. Only post my own too.

>>180379561
He's not hard to fight my dude. Don't let him being the 13 time reddit champion go to your head
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>>180379704
>>180379316
>>180379397
>Literally arguing about people arguing

Please all of just fuck off
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>>180379718
go into ng+ and buy them from the shop
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>>180379561
>was
he's still here you cuckold

and dris is pretty good but he isnt this 'next level' shit you're peddling. he shits on shitters and posts highlights, so it's easy to think hes a god when you only ever lose to him and only ever see webms of him winning

just dont be bad. thats literally the secret to beating him
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>>180379397
Yeah, so what? Assuming that guy does actually look it up, there'll be maybe 2-3 months worth of argung 98 the first time it shows up, and then everything after that will be 1-2 people still trying to argue it while everybody else has accepted it and moved on
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>>180379795
No, I'm beginning to enjoy my autism!

Found another indicator of at least one person being in the consensus of 98:

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/110390060/#110408965
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>>180379781
I never even knew he was the reddit champion or whatever.

>>180379919
I didnt know that.

But trust me, he was. Maybe hes gotten shittier or something. But about a year + some months ago his winrates in FCs were consistently like 32-3 every FC
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I don't know which is worse, Vileblood+Executioner homolust hatefucking each other or the BL debate we've had a gorillion times.
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>>180380115
You're getting memed by people that actually know him, mate.

Also, how the fuck would you know his W/L? Because he doesn't keep track and unless you're the only one he's fighting, you wouldn't either.

He's pretty good, sure, but holy shit get off his dick.
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How can I make a T H I C C female character ? Going for 99 meaty vitality but having 40 kgs doesn't really seems correct with that much vit
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>when you beat the last boss of the chalice dungeon and it drops an Abyssal

What a great feel
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>>180380115
He doesn't post much anymore, most of the really old FC regulars don't. We show up to the FCs on Saturday and that's about it.

>>180380313
Uhhh Mercury is the best ever, 70 time 9gag champion
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>>180380313
Lol. I know because we used to post our FCs winrates.

Idk why this is making you so angry, im just telling you what i know bud
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>>180380359
>Spelunking through dungeon
>Get a boss that can potentially drop a nice gem for you
>Drops the perfect gem

I love this shit
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Anons still spelunking, by chance?
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>>180380459
But we didn't. Unless you were really new or a shitter, post-DLC most oldfags didn't bother with that
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>>180380625
Why not both?
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>>180380625
They just circlejerk in their discord instead.
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>>180380215
The really sad thing is just how goddamn opposed people are to simple fucking sportsmanship.
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>>180380459
I'm not your bud, guy
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>>180380625
Yet people would ask him every FC, and there were always 3-4 people posting their rates. I must be delusional and you must be the ultimate source of knowledge i spose.


>>180380425
I cant imagine he'd still be regularly active after so long
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I should probably scum this build back desu
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>>180329279
Would this tweak change much? I'm willing to sacrifice HP for Stamina
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>>180375758
Oh look, it's a dedposter, fuck off
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Why does all the autism in this thread always stem from PvP.
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>>180380703
Who cares if we do? We don't fuck with the thread.

People shitpost about discordfags more than discordfags shitpost.
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>>180381073
Nah I'd do the same. STR weapons tend to eat a lot of stamina
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>>180381073
Drop all the stam for vit or your going to die quickly.
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>>180381127
Nigga why are you trying to defend the ebin dickscord.

Not responding to people shitposting about it is the best way for it to stop. Or do you not remember the autism in September and October.
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>>180381089
Literally the only thing wrong with this game. Everything is perfect except pvp.
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Anyone wanna carry me through Loran camerabeast?

bbg
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>>180380215
Meta bitching is worse because all it does it bring out the dedposters
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>>180381089
Salt, ePeen
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new thread for you cutiepatooties :3

>>180381432
>>180381432
>>180381432
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>>180329698
>I don't know what I'm talking about but here's an uninformed opinion!
At least you're honest I guess.

>>180381073
FFS, use >>180329279
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>>180380215
Metaposting, but it's pretty close.
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>>180381089
Because to take the PvP this seriously in a casual chinese mobile RPG you have to be a degenerate autist with nothing better to do but whine about how other people play the game
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>>180381657
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>>180371059
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>>180381498
See, here's the thing: I'm given a sample build (which I'm in the process of making) but the low Stamina is not articulated. I'm not given an explanation so I make a remark.
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Anyone up for running through Loran with me?
Im at BL 70
Pass is bbg1 if anyone wants to join
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