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>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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At least it's not fempyro
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2th for dead game
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Engineer's a fun class and best merc.
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what do the moonrunes say?
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>>180209793
no
not like you gain anything from avataring, it's more work too
you just do it because you're a fag and so you can be >le epic i don't care about you or your opinion
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>>180209964
op is a faggot
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>>180210121
thank you senpai
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>>180210086
Personal insults are not an argument ,ma'am.

They are reaction images just like anything else, mine just happen to only specifically be of Clint Eastwood.
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Daily reminder that avatarfaggotry is against the rules and to report, hide, and ignore any and all rulebreaking posts. Also the iron bomber is a crutch.
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i asked this yesterday and still no one answered

what feature would you like to see included in tf2?
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>>180210463
the ability to burn it to the ground
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>>180210463
matchmaking to not suck cock or go back to quickplay
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>>180210463
killing unusual wearing players has a chance to drop their hat on the ground for the impovershed masses to temporarily wear
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>>180210652
Im ok with this :)
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>>180210463
Functional anti-cheat.
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>>180210652
>>180210741
OH WOW, WHAT ABOUT ME AND MY RIGHT TO THIS 10K HAT HUH? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO IGNORE MY FEELINGS AND MONEY?
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>>180210463
more hats
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>>180210406
fag isn't much of an insult, fag
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>>180210463
more engineer secondaries
more engineer buildings
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>>180210652
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>>180209305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQaVtC_NRZY
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>there are people that hated EotL
when will they learn you can't expect anything from valve
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>>180211571
i dont hate EotL. I hate the community members that were a part of it
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>>180210652
I'm geniunely alright with this

also allow dropped strange items to add to the original item's stat counter.
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>>180211875
>strange part: kills by theives
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>you're getting sent a soup can
this lie has gone on for 10 years, this is unacceptable. I have not heard anything about being sent a soup can, and valve wont respond my calls.
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>>180211991
>it's the cheapest part on the market because traderfags are the most triggered by it
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I expect that thy jungle update will reach us by the first week ofJuly, hopefully
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>>180212036
The soup is relatively stale, anyway.

It's not even good soup like tortilla soup, it's regular old chicken noodle
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will the next contract have a coin, a stamp, or something completely different
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>>180211556
when this one started playing i just couldn't handle it
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>>180210463
Actual working competitive mode that limits weapons etc. yadda yadda. Cheaters getting dealt with. Casual becomes a 6s training mode with elo, half of the valve servers get split and put on the server browser. Duel mode added that's essentially MGE on valve servers, that works on the base of your casual elo. No new content, focus on balancing the present issues in tf2. Automated trading getting banned, because that's what the community market is for. No hats setting in ini, so people don't have to work to mod out all the visual crap that got put into the game. Make an entertaining video series a la Meet The.. explaining the game basics to noobs, and have each video accompany ingame challenges to prove you can do it. Add a next level gibus item to the action slot, so you can show off you were able to do it. Delete some of the more style breaking hats and refund an appropriate value of gabenbucks, it's not like they don't have it. Add a huge button of b4nnys crying face on the main menu that says "die white girls", if you click it. That's about it.
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>direct hit has no reskins
>bad box has two
>bad box will probably get decorated versions
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>>180215205
liberty launcher has no reskins either :(
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>>180215348
that's like asking for a manmelter reskin
there needs to be demand for the liberty launcher before there's demand for a reskin
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>>180215479
>Dad
>But also a huge gay
idgi
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>>180215479
if there's promo items I'll buy anything
all-class dad jorts
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guess the next promotional weapon reskin
my bet is on the medigun
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>>180216150
stock melee again
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>>180215674
>replaces domination lines with dad jokes
I'm sold
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>never hear domination lines because I spam thanks as a reaction to everything
how do I stop my voiceline addiction
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>>180219193
bind z to make you explode
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>Never here the new beginning round voice lines because I always spam "Incoming" and "Go Go Go!" at the beginning of the round
>Never here domination voicelines because I always spam "Nice shot" and "Thanks" after every kill
>Have gotten myself killed because I taunt after every bullshit kill (Kritz, killing taunting players, pushing people off of cliffs, etc)
These addictions are too much fun to want to break
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>>180219565
>not interrupting domination/round start voice lines with voice commands
At least you died for honor... and my MEDIC!
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>>180219565
>>Never here
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>>180219729
Oh my god I swear I'm not retarded don't make fun of me it was an accident I swear I'm sorry please stop the rude insults and your constant barrage of hate I apologize for making a mistake that only a mentally handicapped baboon would be capable of making
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I bet he was the one that bought the tc for 14.000$.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Wafflemuffins
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>>180220194
>he has less hours than I do
>the only unusual I have I got for free in a raffle
why do people spend so much money so quickly on a game?
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>>180220194
>2k hours
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>>180220194
America bucks sign goes before the numbers and they use commas not periods.
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>>180220194
That's alot of gifts
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>>180220434
commas not periods to separate thousands/millions/etc.*
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so the pyro's a female?

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1497806793617.webm
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I don't think I'm ready for that jelly
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>implying you aren't already jelly
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>>180220907
There has never been a better time to post this pic
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Why would I be jealous of a uber thick woman?
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I feel like she was born in a family of triplets but ate her siblings
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>>180215586
>>180215674
>>180218893

Come to think of it around half of the mercs would make good dad characters.

>Scout
Nah, seems too immature and unstable, good intentioned but would continuously get in trouble.
>Soldier
Fuck no, Soldier is the type of asshole who would force military routines down your throat
>Pyro
Pyro just isn't a good dad character.
>Demoman
Good intentioned, but too much of a drunk
>Heavy
Obvious choice for bearmode dad, loving and caring
>Engineer
Bro tier dad, the BBQ in the courtyard type.
>Medic
Nice... Though kinda crazy
>Sniper
Seems like the type of loner who would be deeply protective, the type of dad who understimates his skill as one.
>Spy
While classy and the type of dad who would make sure you'd get the best possible education, he also seems like the type who would always be at work.
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>>180220194
He is.
http://backpack DOT tf/item/5012259969
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>>180220907
Jesus fucking christ, what a fatass.
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>>180223053
Holy shit, that matching profile faggotry in the trade history.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/greenwoifi/
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Purplicious93/
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The Tide Turner
Level 1-100 Shield
+40% self damage resistance on wearer
+10% critical damage resistance on wearer
Full turning control while charging
Kills refill 50% of your charge meter.
Taking damage while shield charging reduces remaining charge time

Alt-Fire: Charge toward your enemies and remove debuffs. Gain a mini-crit explosive or melee strike after impacting an enemy at distance

The Claidheamh Mòr
Level 5 Sword
This weapon has a large melee range and deploys and holsters slower
0.5s increase in charge duration
Wearer's shield charge cannot be halted by damage
Melee kills refill 50% of your charge meter
Crits whenever it would normally mini-crit
-25 max health on wearer
No random critical hits
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>it's a scout randumb crits you at mid-range for 140 damage episode
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>>180220907
Let's be real here. Viva looks like personified aged milk. He's out of shape and he's not the best looking guy

Personally, as a spic in ashamed he can't handle this much ass. I've handle bigger.

Besides im better looking too. She'll be all over me like sour cream on tostadas.

Borneo's last point is a bitch
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>shoot medic from 100 feet away with scattergun
>19 damage no crits or mini crits

i dont get it
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>>180224348
TF2's hitreg is garbage. The more ping you have between two players the worse it gets.
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>>180222736
I mean, Spy's already Jeremy's dad, and he HAS never really been around, but i'm pretty sure he kept scout's mom happy with money

He's even shown up a few times while he was a toddler, if The Scout's dreams were real
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So is the spy also the father of scout's 15 brothers? I bet by the time the scout was born, it was so loose he could walk out.
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I always assumed his mother was just having an affair with the red Spy.
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>>180225372

But I mean with an actual dad relationship, as in him being publicly his father instead of the dramatic international agent thing he has with Scout's mother.
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dropped this game roughly 1-2 years ago because none of my mates played anymore and one of them was getting into csgo

we kind of drifted apart and now I'm burned out on cs

Is tf2 worth getting back into? Figured if I am to enjoy the pyro update I should at least get a bit of target practice..
Is matchmaking good yet?
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Lmao
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>>180226603
matchmaking is better but still has many, many problems with it
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Matchmaking is utter trash and dead but casual is tolerable, needs major improvements but at least it fucking works. Weapon balance is better then it has been in the past with underpowered weapons being more of an issue then overpowered ones. Pyro still sucks ass. Wait until the Jungle update comes out to get back into the game, the contracts will keep you engaged in the game while you slog through getting gud again
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tf2
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is
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an
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vagina
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i remember when we had months-long update droughts and we DIDN'T run out of stuff to talk about
to be fair, back hen people actually played the goddamn game sometimes
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>>180231398
remember /vg/ pugs
i remember
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So why does everyone complain about Demo? I'm talking sticky spam. Complaints about that all the time.
Also apparently people complain about Rocket spam too, but who cares about that.
I just want to know why.
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>>180228773
>>180230153
>>180230235
>>180230336
why tho
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>>180223979
boi thinks he slick
HE DABBIN
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because
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>>180231813
Salt, mostly.
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>>180231761
i 'member
i never took part in them because i was a little bitch
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>>180232076
cockold
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stock stickies arm too slow to work in close range and i don't wanna shoot the ground 5 feet from a guy in hopes he walks over there so quickiebomb is good weapon yes i want to make things explode as soon as i see them ;)
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>>180231398
community servers a filled with either aids gamemodes and the same 5 maps on a 24/7 fromat, and if you want to play anything else tough luck
casual is complete dogshit and no matter how many times i give it another try it just ends up disappointing me again over and over and over
its either a team rolling another team or a cheater that cant be kicked or half of your/enemy team laves and makes the game extremely fast and boring

nothing to talk about when the game isnt fun to play
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>>180209964
Monster B
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I'm more of a mid UGC neutral dude

There's may not be anything to talk about when it comes to new things in TF2, but we can still post our loadouts. How about we see some Medics in the chat?
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>>180210463
Refined metal sink
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>thinks he's mid ugc while also thinking goldrush and hoodoo are good maps
>thinks he's neutral and not a top tier faggot
this level of delusion
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They really oughta change casual so there's just a 40 minute timer on the map and changes map until the round is finished. The first to 2 wins thing is bullshit considering how quickly Koth and CP maps end when you get rolled because you're waiting for the matchmaker to bring in more people.
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>>180232874
Saved
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im better than b4nny where does that put me
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tfw not cool enough to be on any charts
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>>180233028
its from mid-2015 dont worry about it
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>>180232956
i was internally debating putting tracer faces on the girls
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I've been coming here since just before Gun Mettle, though.
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Wow, they're all dead
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>>180233180
That sounds really funny.
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>>180233168
>tfw you recognize the avatars on the outpost ban list
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>>180233372
i know two are crona and .. but whose the middle one
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Jajo jajota
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>>180233168
>THIS will never be updated
i'd do it myself if i were more confident in my drawing abilities
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>>180233601
drawings update THIS
this is the earliest pic i have saved from tf2g
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>>180232874
actually, a pretty nice job
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Guess it's a trip down memory lane

Thunder Mountain would be a 10/10 if it weren't for the Sniper haven of stage 3
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I'd draw something if I were more familiar with the people currently inhabitating the thread.
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I hope this never gets updated, desu. There's way too many irrelevant whos who would force themselves on the list, just like that shitty picture Wanda made.

>>180234057
They're all irrelevant whos. Not a one of them even plays competitively.
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i play pyro in 6s and win
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I'd draw something but no one posts anything worth drawing
old draw rolls used to spam out a thread but at least it was something
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prove it
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People stopped doing draw rolls because the new janny is really fucking anal about them.
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*proves it*
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People stopped doing rolls because it's against 4chan rules. Follow the rules, and you'll be fine

Fucking morons
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you mean like the rules about advertising your shitty youtube channel
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its also against the rules to post off-topic, but somehow that hasnt really stopped you
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spy to mid is an excellent strategy because not even my team expects me to be this much of a faggot
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Clearly, I've been a good boy
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>>180234461
I can't really tell if you're being serious but shitposting aside there really aren't any rules against draw rolls
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>>180234057
your artstyle is shit anyway please dont draw anything
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rules are for queers
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Asking for number gets is against the rules

"Hey, get this number and I'll do so and so"

Against the rules

My favorite melee from Team Fortress 2 is the Conscientious Objector
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>>180234795

I'm kinda busy atm, if not I would.
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Get that shit the fuck outta here
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shut the fuck up viva
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shut the fuck up viva
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shut the viva up fuck
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post some loadouts and I'll pick one to draw
I mainly draw OW these days but their cosmetics lack almost any character
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>good boy
self proclaimed good boy and global site rule upholder "based" viva
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I finally saved up enough to get a Headless Horseless Headsmann's Headtaker... But I need to wait a week before I can trade the keys.

FUCK.
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they're cheap though
what are you, not a trader main?
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>>180235801
Nah m8, I'm not a big trader.
I am but a (reasonably) poor anon.
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then why didn't you craft one
what happened to your haunted scrap
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That second comment of mine wasn't even about my videos. It was when someone brought up some Who commenting on fresh videos on YouTube. He asked something along the lines of "Look at so and so commenting. Why?"

Besides, I'm enough of a good boy to post my videos when they forward the discussion. Like earlier today when someone asked about "Post shit describing the state of Casual" and linked a timestamp'd video of the Homies running into a 7 v 1 situation. Quit your off-topic bitching

2ez. Just like how Detonator jumping in Team Fortress 2 is easy. How could anyone possibly struggle with it
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>>180235482
this is hte only loadoat i have on my computier
please draw it
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Daily reminder that wearing a skirt and insisting people call you a "she" doesn't make you a girl.
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>>180235951
I don't even fuckin' remember.
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rate my loadout
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>>180235482
eh fuck it what do I lose by posting this. Not like I'll get told my loadout is shit or anything. That'd just be downright rude
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>>180236175
6 out of communist, it's alright.
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>>180235482
Oh me me! Pick me please!
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>>180235482
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>>180236193
5 out of sneaky, see me after class.
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>>180236339
What can I do to improve it senpai. I know it isn't Cuban Pete tier but I rather fancy it
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Shit, it's so hard to read whole comments and context, guys

You know what's actually hard? Finding a full server in a Casual game of Team Fortress 2 in 2017. Step your shit up, Valve. Fucking bums
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>>180235971
"advertising (ALL FORMS) is not welcome."
forget to put on your glasses? you got rocks in your head? you sure talk yourself up big as a youtube video guy even though i've seen random people comment on my videos with more subscribers than you have total views.
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>>180236483
>no low-tier unusuals
>no shitty paint
It's like your not even tryin'
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>Complains about offtopic posting
>While offtopic posting himself
:thinking:
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>>180236121
smooth move, knucklehead
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Isn't it hilarious how he cut out the top of the post there showing who the poster was?

Prolly cause he knows it wasn't BasedViva who posted it, but rather, a person who wanted to mimic me on /gtag/ and failed miserably. Keep coming up with more of these. It's fun to debunk

You know what mystery I wish we could debunk next? Where the fuck is the Team Fortress 2 team working on the update? Call in some authorities to find these missing individuals
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I've never really cared about hats that much but I really need a new hat for my scout

He wears the hot dog hat atm, what are the best scout cosmetics?
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>>180237157
"Best" is subjective.
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>>180237157
What are your other cosmetics, I can't recommend you a hat if I don't know what they are
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Argyle Ace
Ye Ole Baker Boy
Cool Cat Cardigan

Don't wear them all simultaneously, though. I called dibs
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>>180236654
i'm just pointing out hypocrisy when i see it since viva is apparently some crusader for following global rules on rolls for drawings, but not when the rules suddenly don't work for him.
>>180236829
alright fair enough as i didn't actually read the entire tripcode. that wasn't intentional, the top of the post was just boring and useless information. let's give another example, with context. wow, how on-topic to the discussion at hand and also to tf2, the game you're in a general for and simultaneously calling dead. and to think i only had to go back one whole page on the archive to find this, it's almost like you pull this shit all the fucking time.
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>>180237194
cmon man
>>180237260
I don't really have shit for cosmetics because I took a large break between the second hat update and now
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>>180237335
There is no best. Whatever you like the most is what's best for you, what I like the most is best for me. There's a very high likelihood that these two interests are different, and as such, I can't accurately say what hat(s) might be best for you.
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Hey, there you go. Only took you 3 tries to post a complete BasedViva post. Notice how that one never got deleted. No trash icon next to the post number. It's cause I'm clearly talking about Team Fortress 2 in the same post

Just give up, dude. I follow the rules. I'm a good boy. The dudes working on Team Fortress 2, though? They're bad boys. Not bad meaning good, but bad meaning bad
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>first time in this general
what the fuck is all this namenigger drama

i'm out

/vg/ was a mistake every thread on this board is just /soc/
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>>180236730
I know, I know.
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>>180237504
i don't get to post child porn if i talk about tf2 in the same post, you fucking imbecile. if a post breaks the rules it breaks the fucking rules. all forms of advertising are not allowed, that's how it fucking works. don't act like you're not breaking rules because you're on a board with worse moderation than fucking /tv/.
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>>180237556
I'd tell you it gets better, but no. It doesn't. Just go and stay go.
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And you're still off-topic shitposting and failing to talk about Team Fortress 2 while giving me free (You)s

How stupid can one guy be?

As stupid as Valve thinks we are, asking us to make the update for them. Fuck you morons. Do the shit yourselves
>>
>moving goalposts this fucking hard
viva damage control in action, it's almost like he knows he's wrong but doesn't want to admit it or something
haha the bazaar bargain is a direct upgrade i'm talking about tf2 now, i could post furry porn right now and i'd still be following the rules subscribe to my youtube channel
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>Fishing: the thread
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Lmao, this kid is PISSED

Just like when I enter a Casual game of Team Fortress 2 and find out it's only a 2 v 4 game. Fuck that noise. Fuck you, Valve
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>i have nothing to say so i'll just call him pissed
ok, i guess viva is a rulebreaker on the same terms as the drawfags rolling that he called out earlier in the thread, seeing as how he has nothing to say that could defend his case, so we're done here. add another tick to the "viva is a moron and hypocrite" tally.
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/tf2g/ was a mistake.
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>>180236016
first in best dressed
the palette didn't turn out too well but you get the idea
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>>180211130
More engineer secondaries for sure.
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The big mistake was the Team Fortress 2 team giving you puppets false hope and dead hype
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>>180238679
very nice, my friend
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Kadode a cute!
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>newfags falling for bait and shitting up the thread
fuck this, im going to bed
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They'll learn
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>demo, engineer, sniper and spy are the only classes where using stock melee is even considered an option
even then the skullcutter is arguably a straight upgrade to stock and the bushwacka is a straight upgrade if you have jarate, the carbine or a buff banner soldier that you're coordinating with.
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>All this offtopic shitposting
>But it's my one image of the trap from DDDDDDD that gets deleted
Step your game up, janny.
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maybe the janny just hates traps
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>|ACP|Sinep left the game (outtie bois!)
What the fuck was this
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why are all the current mm map rotations such shit?
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>>180241767
>ACP
A cheater.
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>when you out M1 an aimbotting phlog pyro because particles are so fucking retarded even computers can't figure them out
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explain to me why koth_badlands exists

explain to me why koth_sawmill hasn't been replaced by ctf_sawmill

neither of these maps were built for koth and are really unfun
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>>180234057
Everyone in that picture is dead except renards and drawings
90% of the current tf2gs don't even post in the thread anymore
Drawings doesn't draw except when he's stealing my idea and doing it ten times better than me
Magicmax is still a fatfag
Randy is drunk forever
Thole is dead RIP thole: 1999-2017, he got a gf
Larry is sad
Snams is banned from irc for polposting #freesnams
Junk posts 10/10 mems
Neppie still isn't a mod and is perpetually angry
Jocelyn J. Jones is still a master shitposter
Hamaham is a shitposter who has been playing for longer than most people here probably
Dotsy is an ANGRY BOY and a DRAMA BOY
DCKM is a faggot
Xenos is a /meanboy/ now
Tiger is a furfag
sops is a furfag
videogames is a pedo
yelo is too pure for this world
human is in the /trash/
26dollar is in the /trash/
kirikipp or however the fuck you spell it is also in the /trash/
shoebox is dead
xionxang is the king of /trash/
Wanderer is a faggot
Cheatboy is an enigma wrapped in a shroud of mystery
egg is a pyro main who keeps avatarfagging with furries
Viva is still a spic who bags groceries for a living
Redward is now /svg/
Lids came back for a bit but has a gf and a life but he's in the discord every now and again
Sn is a coolboy and makes epic pottis
I'm a giant faggot who can't get a draw done
IRC is dead
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Im assuming the newbie mixes arent happening? I havent been in the thread too much, but I havent heard anything about them. I want play game...
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>>180220432
im gonna need a name so i cant se properly when im NUTTING SO HARD
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xD
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>>180233168
and to think people;e bitch about how we have to many attention fags now.
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yakui i think you should work on making your faces more sharp and maybe the eyes smaller
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someone a month or two ago challenged the thread to make a collage of every kill icon in the game but I gave up. here's what i made so far
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>>180244482
good job duder, working on mine right now trying to make it look like not complete shit
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>>180244482
There are multiple weapons that outright aren't obtainable, so what's the point?
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i just got out of a pub where there was like a group of spinnbotters and the chat kept disappearing. does this happen to anyone else cause fuck if it dosent suck the fun out of everything.
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yes, it's why i don't even touch matchmaking
welcome to 2017 tf2
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>>180244707
for funsies you no fun loser
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http://tf2r.com/kmbusll.html

>>180244813
i had that last night
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cant win em all
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>>180244907
Then why not make the condition, "for all weapons in your inventory," rather than "all kill icons?" Seems like that could have been planned a little better.
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>>180235482
Their cosmetics don't just lack character, they're fucking pallette swaps half the time
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>>180244639
thanks man
have fun with very specific pyro reflect kills
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>>180243785
>not in BTFO list
Am I even real?
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Gonna play a few casual (NA) games if anyone wants to join
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>>180235482
also here
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What games is /tf2g/ interested in from E3 2017?
my list
>Cuphead
>Dragon ball FighterZ
>Metro Exodus
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>>180244482
You missed kill with the sandman ball
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>>180246390
>i gave up
>>180246261
the last night and far cry 5
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>>180246261
>Kingdom Hearts finally gets a conclusion, I've been waiting since middle school for this
>Then there's Detroit: Become Human; Never played Heavy Rain or the other games from that developer, so this'll be my first from them
>That one zombie game looks cool
>Death Stranding, first game from Kojima after leaving Konami and leaving behind the MG name
>Monster Hunter World on multiple consoles but cross console's probably not gonna be on ps4 because lmao sony
There's also Yakuza: Kiwami that comes out in August, so, hope I finish Yakuza 0 by then.

>>180246592
You still did good, soldier.
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>>180246962
Did they actually announce that 3 was going to be the conclusion? I don't think they're nearly done with milking the Kingdom Hearts' teat.
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>>180244813
>chat kept disappearing
the hackers spam several empty lines to make people not see the "kick X he's hacking"
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>>180246592
Metro Exodus reminded me so much of Far Cry 2 with the kind of map you have
but im afraid it will lose quality and depth while making things open world
>>180246962
>expecting something good from a heavily scripted zombie game "gameplay"
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>>180247079
I sure hope to God so.

Also, didn't hear much about The Last Night other than that it's dev was a former GamerGate dude.
Game kinda reminds me of Shadowrun: Hong Kong; do we have anything on it storywise?
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>>180247142
I said it looks cool, didn't say it'd be good sempai.
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>>180245772
depends on who you are

I only mentioned the people i talk to regualrly in the irc and now dead discord so if you've never talked to me chances are i don't know you
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>>180245268
just something to pass the time till the update gets here, nobodies twisting your arm to do it. it was upposed to simulate contracts in a way so you could have something to strive for/show off. Can everybody say they've got the taunt kill icon for the lumbricus lid? you know stuff like that.
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>>180246261
None of them they're all shit and Quake Champs is at the very top of Shit Mountain
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>>180247142
>2009-2011 hats or nothing at all

Does anyone have an approved list of A R T S T Y L E hats? I want to know if I was able to nail it with my loadouts

should I start namefagging for the sole purpose of repopulating /tf2g/ with namefags for shuckle and drawings to draw?
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comment on these frags on the enemy toons
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>>180247908
frontier stinks
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>>180247908
nice flick
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>>180248091
Ye.
I think if they fixed that thing where you can shoot through the glass frame on final i would stop playing it, it would make that point impossible to get without several coordinated teammates
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13236952
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>>180247458
I don't really say much in the IRC except when the conversation touches my areas of interest
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>>180247458
>now dead discord
chances are you're in the wrong one
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So, uh, how about them pubs?
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They boring and most games is stomps.
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boring alone but fun with friends, if somebody posts their id here you should hit them up.
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>>180249000
Fucki mean discord and now dead irc
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>>180251870
>with friends


Stacks fighting are not fun either. If you would want to play in this way i would go on tf2center.
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Where can i buy cheapest keys possible without contacting real humans? Marketplace?
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post FRAG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_7nRrnNjTs
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>>180254040
https://youtu.be/APIKVLw1tT0
https://youtu.be/KJY1TomgkBs
Unironcly this
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>>180254389
I thought I was the only one who listened to anime ost's while fragging
https://youtu.be/K3u5h9cPTBw
https://youtu.be/4-PkAQcuZOw
https://youtu.be/EIVgSuuUTwQ
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https://youtu.be/1EKTw50Uf8M
Yes I love anime too fellow team fortress two friends.
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>>180254661
>ergo proxy
>lain
>ghost in the shell
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpDvtIt6Lsc
>yfw it's almost 2020 and we never had WW3
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>>180254661
Yes yes good fragging tunes but have you accepted the one true fragging music into your life yet?
https://youtu.be/z54MpfR3XE4
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>not using your repressed sadness to frag anybody who gets in your way.
https://youtu.be/vZa0Yh6e7dw
https://youtu.be/mAH7CLUmvhE
https://youtu.be/P5-2-jD-42Q
I sure hope y'all don't do this
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>>180254040
that fox looks very judgemental
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>sadness
No emotions here, only frags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43aQxzjyeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0swW-ahkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9FM-FkDeWs
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>>180255685
>using crutchbomber
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>>180255137
>not posting music fucking MADE by the frag daddy
https://youtu.be/zPalu0uykfE
>>180255420
Being a sadcunt is cool some times but >>180254661 had the right idea you gotta post those soomth tunes to frag to
https://youtu.be/yx9RgTiIKDE
https://youtu.be/eyI635o2pmk
https://youtu.be/DK4FTvaW_6Q
https://youtu.be/Yu1zT1KjbPk
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>not using the straight upgrade
also >inb4 shit webbums where anon can't aim a pipe correctly
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>>180255937
I usually use stock, that round i wanted to practice trimping so i complemented with pipe jumping.
I still don't fucking get how that shit works, sometimes i get a little nudge upwards, others i get catapulted into low orbir
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>>180256047
>hit pipe
>do no damage to anybody around him
great job using a direct downgrade because you can't hit pipes
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>>180256045
frag daddy's song sounds rush as fuck
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I listen to trigun post when I do jump maps some times. Most of the music is real mellow and bluesy which I like. There's one song I remember though that I haven't hear in a while, it had a lot of trumpets and horns and I had to do with trigun but I can't fucking remember what it's called.
Trigun Badlands Rumble: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVVvAQi6BXZMk0xrbc2KEoe40td4EFx1u
Oh and also this, his goes pretty darn hard to.
https://youtu.be/raOO98pwvnc
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Stop posting your fucking songs, answer my question you god damn cunts.
>>180253589
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>>180257452
scm usually
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>>180257523
>7 days waiting
No. I selling some stuff and don't want to bother my self with chargebackpal so i asking for tf2 keys. Real cash traders might be 2complicated for buyer so i need online bot service.
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>>180257452
marketplace has em pretty cheap, plus I think uncle dane has a buy 10 get 1 free code
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>>180257452
Rude 2berfranj
https://youtu.be/p-o_bMkzOW0
>>
Song about the sexu wit a robotu
It even has OwO in the link
Why
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>>180248857
it doesn't help if you don't post your name. I forgot a couple of people in there actually but I don't know if that's you or someone who i never talk to
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>>180247079
>>180247168
KH3 is the last game in the Xehanort saga, not the end of KH as a whole. Confirmed by Nomura years ago
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>>180257740
>plus I think uncle dane has a buy 10 get 1 free code
So can i use it just a one time?
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>>180260374
you can probably keep buying keys in pairs of 11 with the code, it should be at the end of some of his recentish videos
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>destroyed building parts let you spam DR near-infinitely
i regularly use the DR when i play spy and have no problems fighting against it but even i think this is bullshit
>>
make the dead ringer lose all charge no matter when you uncloak
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>>180260374
>>180260558
the code is "uncle" if you haven't found it yet
you literally have to say uncle to get your extra key
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>>180260862
I got it. I mean i need 25 keys. Can i use it two times?
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>>180260898
I'm pretty sure you can use it as many times as you want
just buy 11 keys and then buy 14 keys
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>there are people in this thread without even one hale's own
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>>180261006
Nice
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Are unusuals worth getting and if you have unusuals how did you get them? Lucky unbox, trading or a gift?
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redpil me on circling tf2 logo
i think it's will fit with my aussie
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post your loadout
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>>180261640
they aren't the medic magnets you expect them to be, but the right one can make your loadout stand out
hwnn is from making good deals and putting some money into the game, bubble pipe is from winning an unusual and trading it for one I want

>>180261676
it's a good gen 1 effect that isn't a sniper magnet
it isn't "god tier" though

>>180261754
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>>180261754
If you mean me you stupid le no reply xD fag then it's will looks like this.
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>>180261987
>samurai hat with no other samurai cosmetics
if you're gonna cosplay ingame at least go full bushido
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>>180262050
I don't fall for themed loadout meme. I just like the hat. Currently i wear the same loadout but with black tyran't helm.
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>>180262119
>matching your cosmetics is a meme
you look like every trader main ever, just missing an aussie black box
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uHPn51tC20
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>>180262197
Black bandanna and parka match with litterally every soldier cosmetics except some stupid shit like cowboys hats
Prove me wrong.
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>>180262349
>stupid shit like cowboy hats
y-you take that back RIGHT NOW
black bandanna is for teenagers with the same loadout on every class, parka is alright, I just only ever see it used by trader mains
combined they look edgy, and with a samurai hat it looks like random shit thrown together
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>>180262642
>he don't want to look edgy
what are you 31 yo
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>>180262724
I forgot what website I'm on
my [B]
>>
demoman
>>
nigger
>>
give demo a glock
>>
give demo a [B]lock
>>
demo man wepon idae
+ cooll
- nigger

wloud u useit
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hey beter
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tell me why the family business shouldn't be multiclass
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>>180264781
Because being a straight upgrade from the shotgun is the only reason people equip it
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>>180261754
>>
>play tf2
>takes a couple minutes to get into a game
>matched with the worst teams imaginable against teams at or above my skill level
>get anally raped because it feels like I don't have half a team
>At the end my computer freezes after a connection problem like it's been doing lately
That's enough TF2 for today, what should I play instead
>>
Game crashes just as I join every game.

help me god
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>>180267410
Anyone?
please, i dont want to go through that again
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>>180267410
Beat some singleplayer games. Then comeback in tf2 after few weeks. You would be at the same level as fabio.cocainiano2009 so shitty balance won't bother you so much.
Or play tf2cunter.
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>>180268263
What type of game are you looking to play?
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>>180268436
Something singleplayer preferrably. I was thinking maybe Spelunky since I always have fun with that
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>>180268263
Stop using the fucking matchmaking and take a look at the server browser
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>>180268484
Have you played Risk of Rain? also this >>180268536
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>>180233168
I wish i browsed /vg/ back then.
>tfw i am always the last person to hear about stuff like this
Something just end me already since suicide is for pussies.
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>>180268484
rimworld is pretty time-consuming
enter the gungeon is good if you're looking for roguelites
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>>180268484
AoE2, FFA against two bots at hard AI, Aegis enabled, see if you can win
And no fucking black forest, you gonna work for that wood
>>
Just started playing this game after a year of not

Why have stranges got so expensive? I remember a shitty strange would go for 1 reclaimed, but now they're over a refined at least.
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>>180271832
Less people uncrating, less shit stranges going around
Also basically every crate added in the last year or so only had cosmetics in em
Man i remember when strange detonators were two fucking scrap each, now look at this
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GEEL
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>>180271938
>now look at this
>>180272240
The fucking kike has done it again
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>now main logo of backpack.tf have ponies
OwO brohoof /)
>>
>backpony.tf soon™
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jewing is magic :3
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>>180271938
don't forget about the devaluation of ref
most stranges are under a key though, so it isn't a huge change
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>>180271938
I remember when keys were less than 3 refined... I really wish I held onto mine.
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>>180261640
I just saved up a bunch of keys from trading around, bought my first pair of buds and traded them for my first unusual. From there I traded unusual for unusual until I got lucky and made a big profit.

I think I started with an orbiting fire Old Guadalajara, worked my way to to an unusual all class hat (I think it was a human cannonball) then selling that off into two more unusuals, ending up with a stormy storm salty dog and searing plasma tough guy's toque. Salty dog was changed to all classes since I got it, which probably tripled the value.

I have 3 unusuals total, as I got one from my lucky strange festive huntsman unbox. I've seen people with pages and pages of unusuals, no idea how people reach that point.
>>
>tfw no eerie flames effect
>>
>check my workshop favorites
>I liked every 2016 halloween effect before they were put ingame
post workshop items you knew were good before they were added
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>>180255420
>Nujabes
My nigga
Here's some tunes I listen to when I'm downish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pKCAM7NiWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPUMLhZo1HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8LfZAOqKs

Fuck, during highschool when I was depressed as shit I listened to a lot of nomak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKKmly7fbhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2NQditiTm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAKPHScin0
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>>180281039
hi /tf2g/
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you're doing it wrong. Fun, fast-paced music makes you unstoppable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uMrOv1K1s8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0xBCwkg3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGzAKP_HuM
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>>180281198
This anon gets it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcqC8LSoBws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbNmXMLImg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVEG0uNHK64
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Reminder that relaxing music is the way to go
>CURRENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD57ZvSjOrA&t=1803s
>also good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk6MMe5iUBE&list=PL2hbGkVbBWdtYbTboQNKroVCbL3MpOyG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFZSXc6wH0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOVICqIpjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDWls1BdGxo
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I frag with 70's Canterbury prog because I have mental health issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkOorhjcIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99w41FVpqY
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>>180211346
He has a point though
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Does somebody have the link where ster talks to siri?
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It's all about them love songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Gu-CyE-NQ&list=PLT22UEvC0obP8YHw2cWozEzIO1tY49lKc&index=4

My favorite Team Fortress 2 cosmetic is Archimedes
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>>180284330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbEqf2zR9K0
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>not having a warm up ritual with specific songs to get into the groove
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Did star_ browse tf2g
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http://tf2r.com/ko2lvmr.html
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>>180286027
Who the fuck is this literal who band
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>>180286376
>literal who band
>not literally The Who
????
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>>180286027
is there anything more narcissistic than making your loadout in sfm? All these players who think they're hot shit when in reality a gregor shitfucks them
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Eurobeat is the only acceptable form of fast beat music to listen to. Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't
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>>180288068
in their defnse it's a good map
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I really love this loadout
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>>180288068
Someone here was giving them away
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>>180285193
>ЦЯ A FAБЭT
I think it's supposed to mean OP IS FAGGOT (OП ПИДOP) but it's just bucnh of random cyrillic letters.
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>>180288147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-MhQiWotPE
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>he loves random shit thrown together
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>>180288260
You're a faggot.
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there is nothing wrong with having art/posters/etc of your loadouts, as long as they're well made
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>>180288260
ur a faget
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>>180288307
>Not available in my country
Great choice Europoor
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>>180288260
You're right, because the image isn't meant to provide an accurate translation, it's just meant to look like "ur a faggot" using Cyrillic letters
also ur a faggot
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>>180288068
masturbating to your own reflection
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>>180233168
Is Blacky like the nega-Dotsy?
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>>180288449
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>>180288462
Oh no
That sucks
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>want to play TF2 with /tf2g/
>except not really because nu-/tf2g/ sucks balls
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>>180288449
omg it's mukselg!
>>180288502
>using Cyrillic letters
For what purpose
It's like than 4chan banner with soviet locking anime grill with "4CДH".
>>
>paypal leaks that the summer sale will start on the 22nd
welp
>>
k

Not a secret. It's always around the same time
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>>180288941
Same reason people use that Jap text character that looks like a smiley face emoticon, it looks like something else. The original meaning doesn't matter.
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>>180288886
we're not so bad, ryuke's melee fights are always a good time
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>>180288886
All you memes was shit. Pottis is sign of retard.
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>>180288886
You ever get that cheatboy plushie? Also if anyone else knows that'd be great. Is there a limit to how many people you can invite to a casual lobby? Obviously 12 seems like the maximum cap but I've never had more then 4 friends in a lobby before
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>>180288987
>thursday
d-don't get excited yet g-guys
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>>180289482
>he still excited for sales
hownew.ru
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>demoknight on my team
>charges a revved overhealed heavy and dies
>does it again and dies again
WHY DO THEY KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS
IS IT FUN FOR THEM?
BECAUSE IT JUST KEEPS FUCKING HAPPENING
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST SHIT I HAVE EVER SEEN PLAYERS DO IN TF2 BAR NONE
ONLY RETARDS PLAY DEMOKNIGHT
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>>180289665
I'm saying thursdays are update days
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>>180289458
5 people is max. You can't have more than 6 stack. Also, the more people you invite, the slower matchmaking is on finding you a match .
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>you can no longer kill an overhealed heavy with 4 eyelander heads + splendid screen + melee crit

;(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5OMK7JNnvY
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>>180289851
You just know they are doing the DSP bit complaining about the game being bullshit in their heads every time. I don't understand why you wouldn't go for the medic, everybody else always goes for the medic first, but demoknight med picks, maybe the one thing that loadout is actually fairly good at, never happen.
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out of the way everyone, make room for some real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HUyHmLFzA
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why are all of scouts primaries except stock shit
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>3 engis are building lvl 3 sentries at our spawn on a koth map
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fan is fun on maps with hazards and soda popper has higher dps than stock
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redpill me on the back scatter
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>>180291059
it's a direct downgrade in pretty much every situation
any time where you'd be lined up to shoot someone in the back for """""big""""" damage the stock scattergun would accomplish the exact same job and usually in the same number of shots from any direction instead of from behind
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>playing a cp_map
>enemy team composed of well rounded classes, and people who have more than 30 hours
>my team is composed of (you) and people who've just installed
>don't know the first thing about control points
>all of them are either playing scout or engineer
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>>180291059
its shit
it used to be good then it got nerfed
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>>180291059
It's a penis
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>enforce actually good
>nerfed

>cow mangler actually good
>nerfed

>back scatter actually good
>nerfed

>bison actually good
>nerfed

when will it end
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guys?
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>>180291662
>using ref and not hats
the MADMAN
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>>180291662
you're going to craft regret
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>>180291662
>using three ref
>when two craft hats cost 2.66
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>>180290859
If your team is bad enough to let an engineer build at your spawn, you deserve to get camped.
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>>180291794
>>180291798
>>180291802
well shit, at least it's pre 2011 amirite?
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MOM, I DID IT AGAIN!
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>>180292849
yikes
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>>180293018
hot garbage incoming
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>'selling hats, all trades are instant'
>they are not actually instant
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>>180293018
dead of night
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>>180293018
>>180293036
I know right :,^)

>>180293090
whonu?
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>>180293186
now craft the two together and pull a triple regret
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>>180293186
>gołąbki i wódka
o chuj
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>>180293186
kurwa mac

how to make piratebay sysadmin?
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>>180290243
>overhealed heavy
You were never been able too.
Even at max damage 127 for bash and 195 for crit.
You still can 1hko 300hp heavies, you just have to hit the bash from far away
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>>180293267
just stringed together like 15 crafts
send help
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>>180293707
only god can help you now
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>>180293707
Rafl
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>>180293640
4 head boosted screen bash could gib medics before it got nerfed

overhealed doesn't mean fully overhealed

demoknight win everytime
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>>180293707
OH DEAR GOD
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>>180293856
POO
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>>180293856
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I think I have a problem
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>>180293856
I didn't even know this was a cosmetic
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>>180289851
>charge at 5 people with Scotsman's Skullcutter
>leave with 24hp and 5 crits
Man i love that axe.
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crafting confirmed rigged like a bote
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I just don't know when to stop do I?
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Plz stop
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h*ck

>>180294362
I can't
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forgot to cap this one. It was the strawboat and some other faggy hat I never wear.
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This one is not that bad, stop now, you're hurting yourself my man
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Reserve Shooter Split:

Soldier:
The Reserve Shooter
>This weapon deploys 20% faster
>This weapon holsters 15% faster
>40% more accurate
>Minicrits all airborne targets
>-50% clip size

Pyro:
The Hot Shot
>This weapon deploys 20% faster
>This weapon holsters 15% faster
>40% more accurate
>Mini-crits targets launched airborne by explosions, grapple hooks or enemy attacks
>-34% clip size
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last one kohais. Wish me luck

>>180294741
ï͚̖̿ͣ̐̏͋͢T̳ͬ̐ͪ̈́ͣ̇ͭ͠,̹̙̰̩̎͝S̥͎̞̗̭͖̃̿͋͗ͤ͜ͅ ̵̙̭̯̣ͯ̔ͤ̿͌̀t̥̣ͦ̓̃̐̇̐́̚O̪̱̪͙̼ͣͣ͒͢ͅo̢̱̞̻͕͛͂̆̀͜ͅ ͎̦̠͚̝̱̭͙̯̾ͧ͑̎̀̓͌̚l̻̉͂̐̃̃̓̄A̙̥͕͎̪̓̌ṱ̡͉͚͕̄ͣͧ̿͐͒ͩ͟è̖̼̻̦̫ͯ̂̀̓́͛ͧ ̯͓͔͉͇̜̋̋̐̍̚͜F͍̦͉̗͌͌̃͛̆ͦͫ́͠Ǒ̩̳͉͔̱̤͔͙̃̿̽̏̃͜͡r̩̳̽̓͊̈́ͤͫ̓̍ ̨̭̟̹͋̓̈́̎̇̾m̶̵̧͍̹͍ͮ̃͑ͧ͊͑͌́E̩͈͚̤̺͓̭͚ͪ͛̔̋
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>>180294806
IS CHEATBOY MAKING YOU DO THIS? PAY HIM OFF TELL HIM TO STOP AAAAAAAAA
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>>180294806
>smelting the birb
DON'T
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anybody have an argyle ace
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>>180294806
bad luck
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G A B E N
A
B
E
N

>>180294925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xrlf3taEo
;_;7
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>>180294756
Good post, should split like the equalizer.
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>>180294984
I can pick one up for you, how much are you paying?
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>>180295198
1 ref
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Reserve Shooter Split:

Soldier:
The Reserve Shooter
>Exactly the same as it is now.
>No random critcal hits.

Pyro:
The Hot Shot
>Mini-crits burning targets launched airborne by airblast, explosions, grapple hooks or enemy attacks
>-34% clip size
>No switch switch speed buff. Degreaser is unnerfed instead.
>>
there is literally nothing wrong with reserve shooter on pyro brcause you shouldn't ever be that close to a pyro unless you get jumped and you kinda deserve it if you let that happen
>>
reserve shooter
>only 2 shots
>50% slower reload speed
>everything else stays the same
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>>180293835
>4 head boosted screen bash could gib medics before it got nerfed
It never could.
They changed how it deals damage, but at max range the damage is literally the same as before
literally all the max theoretical numbers are the same, you just don't get the huge bash damage unless you are near the end of the charge
>>
Pyro buff-
>Removed from the game.
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>>180295567
The only thing wrong with it being on Pyro is that it's way more useful on him, so every time they need to balance it for him, the Soldier's version suffers.

It used to be great for shutting down Scouts getting in your face. Now it's next to useless.
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>>180296497
Y'all nibbas are retards

k987elu
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>>180296629
>Not realizing that neo-/tf2g/ is full of brainlets
>>
>>180296629
>not realizing most of neo-/tf2g/ is too busy fragging to check for new posts every 1-2 minutes
>>
>neo/tf2g/
>Fragging
lmao
neo-/tf2g/ only plays casual CTF and gayload servers, when they can be bothered to play at all in-between shitposts.
Those frags don't count.
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Post fr4ggers
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those cosmetics look bad together
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any cosmetic sets that use the bandanna are shit
prove me wrong
>>
>conch
I knew you were a trader main
>>
>he don't want to have constant health regen
Spot the gunboats shitter.
>>
Guys I want to be a sniper main, recommendations on aimbots?
>>
i recommend maining every class for a more well rounded experience
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>>180297690
Huntsman
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>>180297947
>high tier classes that require skill
>classes I play

>garbage tier classes that need to be removed from the game and anyone who has played them needs to be VAC banned
>classes I don't play
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>>180297316
conch is op in arena_2fort
so I usually use that or shotgun.
Just hit 5600 kills with the original since I started playing again
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playing scout, soldier, or demo will make you better at all classes
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Iron Bomber + Tide Turner + Eyelander is the best demo loadout for pubs, prove me wrong.
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>>180297316
Do I pass the F R A G G E R test?
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>>180298765
Loose Cannon gives you jumps along with your shield, and the fat donks makes your kills really sting
>>
>>180298650
Demo's skills aren't readily transferable. There's not much he can teach you that's applicable to other classes.
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>>180298765
I use stock, targe, eyelander (reskin) and I do well.I don't notice any differences aside from roller loss with iron bomber.
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>>180298765
Iron Bomber/Screen/Cladeheim Mor

Self heal without the drawback of having to get a kill, Charge damage at all distances, decent resistance (IF direct shit either stop playing Hybridknight or use Targe), and blast jumping with the bomber
>>
>demoknight or hybridknight
I can taste the vomit in my throat
>>
>Relying on shitty melee hitreg instead of getting actual frags
>>
>give all melees sword range
>give all swords whip range
>keep knife range the same
now we can remove random crits
>>
demoknight is the best pub loadout for losing, just like comp
>>
>>180297316
*Rocket jumps behind you*
Heh, nothing personal pubbie
>>
that's one hell of an ugly hat
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>>180297316
Ass right there, freezehole
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>>180298939
Iron Bomber gives you jumps too.
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>Lose one round
>Get styled all over by a single scout
>Next round starts
>See this
I don't hate this game, but I do hate a large portion of the people who play it.
>>
you deserved this tbqh
>>
mimekeep: our whole team is congaing
>>
>>180300873
i hate people who feel the need to constantly style on somebody, like i get they are good but you shouldn't be an ass about it
i hate giving up even more though
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>>180301161
I don't mind being pubstomped because I'm not that good in the first place, but giving up because you get pubstomped is probably the worst thing I hate about playing with children.
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>>180300873
idle kick improvements when
>>
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
balance blog post
>>
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147

Things are presently occurring.
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>>180301246
this
winning against good people in a close match > losing against good people in a close match > getting roflstomped >>> roflstomping

what i mean with styling on somebody is going for unnecessarily flashy shit like pulling out your market gardener at every chance or something, it's poor sportsmanship
>>
>dr
>Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter

lul
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these changes are looking pretty good
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>Something to discuss
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>>180301540
>>180301552
>is real
>>
Gonna do a full autism pastebin in a bit on my thoughts
>>
Jesus Christ, they deleted all unlocks
>>
>>180301727
about fucking time
>>
>no changes to the baby face's blaster
VALVE BABY PLEASE
>>
>danger shield now gives fire immunity
>targe still doesn't get fire immunity back
valve pls
>>
>dds is now trash
thank GOD
>>
HAPPENING
https://youtu.be/XPGtOugQ69U?t=79
>DEAD RINGER NERFS
>SANDMAN NERFS
>CRIT A COLA NERFS
>DANGER
>SHIELD
>NERFS
YES
>>
>>180302173
Hold on it's only a part of the blance changes , idem for the rift pack , the wrap assasin , the caber etc
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>>180302248
afterburn*
>>
>>180297316
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

>>180300343
Ah h*ck

>>180300873
>playing on cp_gorge
>pushing hard, frags left and right
>push into enemy spawn
>expect teammates to have capped first
>die to afterburn, spectate teammates, first is nowhere near capped
>lose
>next map have same shitters
>have to carry their asses to victory myself
>previous shitter who thought you "reclaim" points by standing on them when the enemy hasn't fully capped it goes pocket med
>win 2-1
>feel nothing
>>
>no pyro stuff listed because they're probably not complete
I thought this was THE PYRO UPDATE?
>>
>Heavy nerfs
:lol:
>>
atomizr seems hecking fun
it's a mini crit market gardener lmao
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>>180297316
>>
looks like i'm selling my strange eviction notice
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>Even MORE heavy nerfs
>>
>the vita saw and enternal rewards reworks
i like it
>>
Rescue Ranger
The ability to repair buildings safely from range without using metal is powerful. Combine this with the ability to instantly teleport buildings from far away - which by itself is interesting and useful enough in many circumstances - and you end up with a package that is very strong.
Changes:
Ranged repairs now consume metal (at a 4-to-1 health-to-metal ratio, e.g. repairing 60 damage costs 15 metal)

Damn. I hate playing against rescue ranger, but I love using it. By the way, start stocking up on stranges and prof KS kits.
>>
Mantreads

The second least-used item in the game. The aerial stomp mini-game is difficult, and The Gunboats are superior in most scenarios.
Changes:
+75% push-force reduction now includes airblast
Added: +200% air control when blast jumping

holy fuck
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>>180255420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzyyOxz4bOE
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Someone's already snatching up the cheap mantreads. Just barely got my pair.
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>>180301540
>>180301552
SPY MAINS ABSOULTLY SEETHING
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>>180302279
>Dead Ringer finally gets the nerf it deserves
>Crit a Cola nerf
>Base Jumper users are now dead in the water
>>DDS nerfed
>Medic now harvests fucking organs with the Vita-Saw
>GRU back to normal
>RR nerfed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZkfHdk-_nI
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>spy mains
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Isn't bonk now close to how it was on launch?
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>>180301540
>>180301552
all shit

also
>making the long range class resist the close range class

???
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Looks like the team doing a pretty good job , we got some really strong nerf for annoying weapons , some "i don't care but why not" , some useful (PBPP) or fun (Atomizer) rework

I'm hyped
>>180303107
according to the poster of the scout update it might be
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>>180303234
t. spy main
flares exist
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>>180302248
>needing afterburn immunity ON TOP OF huge fire resistance
>for a flamethrower that does shit inconsistent damage at low range
>when charging with any shield extinguishes
>having trouble with afterburn in the first place
pubbie pls
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>>180302667
Removing the accuracy and damage debuff when not firing is a. Huge buff. I'm really glad heavy was so dumb when you had to keep shooting to maintain damage.
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>>180303052
There's always an aspect of luck when playing as Spy.
Are you randomly going to find a Pyro roaming around the corner? Probably. Are you going to time your picks perfectly but still get stopped by one Soldier who just appeared and was not there when you started stabbing? High chances of yes.
It's all luck.
Will the server screw up and fail the stab? Yep
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>>180303441
>need
i want it back, it was a luxury that i enjoyed
pyro tears are sweet
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>all those well deserved nerfs and buffs
if this is just a small dose of what's to come this update was actually fucking worth the wait. they actually god damn listened, i'm really looking forward to what they'll do with pyro.
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>>180303435
how the cuck would you infer that i'm a spy main from that post
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>>180303447
Taking away GRU as an OP mobility tool is also pretty good, maybe they can make the class work like it's supposed to again.
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>>180303447
Yeah I like that but when you run the FoS 24/7 and it gets nerfed I have the right to be pretty pissed
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I still think that the PBPP is bad, but at least I can use the entire set without gimping myself too hard
I don't like the YTR change, but I hardly use the weapon so it's not a huge deal for me.
All around every one of these are really good chagnes, hoping they don't fuck the weapons I like when it comes out
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how the heck is the panic attack going to work
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On board with all of these except the amby nerf.
It's literally Spy's best designed unlock, only pyro mains would cry about ambassador.
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>guillotine no longer crits on stun
GOODBYE YOU ANNOYING LITTLE SHITS
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t. Stabby main
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>>180303573
>it was a crutch that i enjoyed
You aren't fooling anybody.
You know what actually makes pyros cry?

A stickybomb launcher and skill, both of which you forego when you pick targe demoknight.
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>>180303849
i would have made it not be able to headshot beyond a certain distance, like 20 meters or something
never been a fan of random bullet spread
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>>180303791
EVERYBODY GETS A SODA POPPER
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>>180304102
>buzzword
>demoknight
nope
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>>180304102
>charge at pyro with loud ass scream
>pyro right clicks in your general direction
>augh give us a hand

>sticky spam pyro
>drink pyro tears
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>>180303849
It's a spy aimbot nerf, I think. If you're a spy you have plenty opportunity to get into medium range to headshot people from blind spots. At least that's what I do. I don't think it's gonna matter much.
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>rescue ranger uses metal
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>Engineer's biggest crutch got nerfed
I'm decently sure everyone hates playing against RR engineers.
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>no changes to stock RL and Gunboats
It's a good day.
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>vita-saw
So it's just "the ubersaw but delayed?" Doesn't seem very exciting, I would have expected a complete rework given how broken the concept was
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>>180304254
>helps bad players do better while hobbling good players
That's proper usage of the term crutch.

>targe
>not demoknight
Are you high
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>>180304604
I'd bet my left nut the ubersaw is being changed in some way, if not then I agree 100%
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>Wanting to nerf stock RL
I can understand gunboats, but there is literally nothing wrong with stock soldier. Stock soldier/scout/demo and sniper are the best balanced classes in the game. Also, imo, the crossbow nerf wasn't that big a nerf. People will still probably run it over anything else.
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is there a way to search community market listings for items with strange parts only
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>Dead Ringer
>Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter
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>danger shield snipers
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>>180304532
Rescue ranger isn't a crutch. It's his number one option while defending.
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>>180304794
Yes. You need to be specific on what strange part you're looking for, though.

>>180304848
t. bad engilet
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>>180304908
ugh yeah i've doing that but it's a pain
why can't you just search for 'part'
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>no listed changes for force a nature and the huntsman
Give it to me straight: is there any hope of changes for these two?
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>>180304759
>I'd bet my left nut the ubersaw is being changed in some way
Agreed. This change doesn't make sense if Ubersaw is gonna stay. Organ harvesting takes time and only gives you 15% that you actually have to earn over time again. With Ubersaw you get 25% Uber instantly, and getting to Uber faster is a huge advantage already.
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>>180301540
>>180301552
what dafuck am I reading?
>Diamondback is untouched
>Sandcleaver combo is kill
>unimaginative attempt at fixing both DDS and Razor
>"organs" concept in Medic
>unimaginative nerf to FoS
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>Mantreads
>Added: +200% air control when blast jumping
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>>180304908
The best engineers in the game run RR, like Sigafoo. They use it because it is the best option. This precludes it from being a crutch. So you can fuck right off.
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>sandman cleaver combo is dead
FUCK YOU VALVE NO SERIOUSLY GO FUCK YOURSELVES
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>GRU buffed but EN nerfed
Shit fuck my ass dude time to buy another pro KS GRU kit
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>>180301540
>>180301552
HOLY SHIT THIS IS GREAT
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>>180304979
force-a-nature
>no longer stops midair movement when fired forward
>reload now matches the soda popper
huntsman
>hitbox now matches the size of the arrow
>longer charge time
>now does 125 on full charge

whaddya think sonny
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>>180305075
heck yes
i will literally walk through the air now
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>>180305237
>It's the best option
>This means it isn't overpowered or a crutch
? ? ? ? ?
When one option is significantly better than every other option a class has and is equipped a vast majority of the time, then it seriously need to be looked at and reworked. See: Crossbow/Ubersaw, DR, DDS, etc.
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absolute state of gimmick users
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>>180304979
They don"t spoil all the work they're doing , maybe we'll have a good surprise when the update will hit
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i won a raffle :o
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>>180305237
>my e-celeb uses this weapon so its not a crutch
when an unlock literally makes the class easier to play and becomes a get out of jail free card for anything other than a sapper, its a crutch
sorry jimbo
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>>180305372
That's gonna take Market Gardener memeing to a whole new level.
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>>180305560
that's not a crutch dingdong, a crutch would make higher level players worse at the game, see the black box.
rescue ranger is just straight up overpowered.
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It's like the local drug dealer hit you up after you got out of the halfway house to try some of his new batch. You were so close to being clean again, so close to being free.
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Dude, dude
Atomizer scouts, lmao
I can't wait to play Hightower after the update hits.
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>>180305618
oh god
unnerf reserve shooter and make scout be able to equip it
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>>180305683
>implying you were ever gonna get clean
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>>180305649
crutches dont make higher level players worse at the game dumbo
crutches are weapons that give lower level players an advantage over higher level players. if some enginigger with 200 hours can dick around on the other side of the map and single handedly defend his shit with the wrangler and rescue ranger against 2 decent players, its a problem and should be looked at.
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somebody make a "im you but sronger" meme with the eviction notice and gru
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welp looks like I'll have to completely change my fun scout playstyle cause from the looks of it
FaN Guillotine Sandman wont work
Any suggestions? Besides FaN I'm still gonna use it
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stock everything you fuckin' loser kys
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>>180305885
>crutches dont make higher level players worse at the game dumbo
yes they do, that's what it's always meant. it makes lower skill level players do better by making certain aspects of the game easier (survivability with black box, hitting rockets with release liberty launcher) while in higher level play you do worse with them because they deprive you of something crucial (a fourth rocket in both cases)
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>>180305987
stock
stock
basher
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>tell a spy main possible changes to weapons
>he goes nuclear
B-b-but DR is already shit!
WHAT THE ETERNAL REVEARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SKILL WEAPON11111
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>>180306082
Thats a very tryhard loadout not very fun at all
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>>180305987
BFB + PBPP + whatever
alternatively
Soda Popper + Winger + atomizer

I'm more partial to the first one
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>>180306051
first of all, the liberty launcher has 5 rockets now you dingus
second, its not like the old black box and liberty launcher werent viable sidegrades back in the day. the guaranteed +15 health and faster rocket speed were a decent tradeoff for the fourth rocket, but now that the former doesnt guarantee shit and the latter does piss for damage, nobody with a brain cell touches them.

they were still crutches though
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>>180305987
of course it would work, it'd just be weaker
i like using pistol with fan, maybe pbpp would be cool, i'm sure atomizer will be fun

> New design:
> +15% firing speed
> Up to +7 hp per hit (from +5)
> -25% clip size (9 shots)
is the firing speed buff compared to stock or it's current version
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this is a shitpost right
with spy mains, you can't know whats sarcasm and whats real
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wtf the pbpp is a straight upgrade now?

>faster fire = more damage
>get health for free
>negligible downside
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>>180305356
FaN is better but will always be bad as long as it has forced knockback fucking up fragging.

Huntsman's problem is it's very inconsistent, very staccato damage output, which is caused by tying projectile speed to the charge bar along with the slow reload and further compounded by the time spent by a player in leading a target.
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>>180306542
9 shot mag is gonna be empty quick as fuck, senpai
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>>180306526
>Username
>Spy main
It's a 13 year old, just ignore him.
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>>180306526
this is probably serious
even months ago, people called the DR changes a "nerf" despite the lack of afterburn, decreased debuff time while active, and movement speed increase
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Finished my autism
https://pastebin.com/fZshBQAt
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>>180306646
that's the point
people use pistol on scout for finishing
even wingers 5 shots do the job
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>>180306610
how bout this then
>FaN's knockback only applies when firing the last shot in the clip, but is increased by 25%
>Huntsman arrows now fire at the same arc, reguardless of charge time
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>>180306526
>-1 points
I don't go on Reddit but isn't there an option to hide comments from literal children?
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>>180294756
Soldier is fine, except switch clip sizes.
Pyro
>Remove +40% accuracy bonus
>+20% damage vs only airblasted targets
>-50% Clip size
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>>180306418
that's why i specified release liberty launcher you dingus
old black box was a direct downgrade because you were trading extra damage for something that you could easily get by having a medic on the team or just knowing where health packs are. kind of like in a competitive high skill level setting. and liberty launcher is even worse since you had to trade the same amount of damage for something even more negligible when all you had to do was just aim. crutches make high level players do worse, that's the accepted definition of what a crutch does.
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>>180306418
>release lib launcher was a viable sidegrade
Old black box was arguably workable for roaming but lib launcher was never good.
Please desist in embarrassing yourself with your uninformed opinions, you've already shown you can't read.
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>>180306526
>shitters like this leave
>game gets x10 better
Alright, later, hope you enjoy Overwatch, or if you're broke, hope you enjoy Paladins
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UPDATE SOON
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cool concept:
DDR gives you 150 hp, still same immunity against bullets but if you take go below 26 hp you start bleeding 25 hp for 5 seconds
basically you must get a health pack or have medic heal you to survive
please tell me what you think
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Easy fellas put y'alls dick back in your pants I give it AT LEAST another month so they can add more cosmetics and let the map workers do there thing.
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>No word about the Buffalo Steak
V-valve?
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>>180307234
source: My dad is GabeN
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@180307398
Cool idea, can smell the butthurt from here.
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SAVED FROM IRRELEVANCE TIER:
>Panic Attack
>Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol
>Mantreads
>Vitasaw
>Heavy Weapons Guy

ABSOLUTELY FUCKED TIER:
>Ambassador
>Bonk! Atomic Punch
>Sandman
>Crit-a-Cola
>Atomizer
>B.A.S.E. Jumper
>Darwin's Danger Shield
>Razorback
>Fists of Steel
>Rescue Ranger

weapons that were also changed TIER:
>Dead Ringer
>Your Eternal Reward
>Flying Guillotine
>Crusader's Crossbow
>Gloves of Running Urgently
>Eviction Notice
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>it's another spy nerf
The only reason Amby is useful is when the team is pushed far back. The amby is already pretty much useless in every other scenario. You're just going to remove a skill based weapon from the game for no reason
>deadringer nerf
Pointless. It will just make more people play soldier
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>Deadringer Spies' face when balance blogpost came out
>MrP's face when balance blogpost came out

>>180305987
>using FaN with sandcleave combo
>not Soda Popper
Damn man, you wasted your time by using that combo with FaN Now that combo is kill you'll never know the feeling of Hype filling crits.
BFB, Bonk, Wrap Assassin should still work but tedious.
>Any suggestions? Besides FaN I'm still gonna use it
Throw in PBPP and Basher or F'oW may be?
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>>180307749
>vitasaw
>relevant
*smug anime girl*
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>>180307858
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>>180306863
it will also be shooting faster though, it will be harder to track
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>>180307749
>Dead Ringer and Guillotine not in ABSOLUTELY FUCKED tier
>Panic Attack, Vita-Saw and Sandman not in also changed tier
>not having a DIRECT UPGRADE tier for the Pocket Pistol
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I like all of this
This is nice
But who the fuck is ever going to use vitasaw or YER now
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>>180307749
>dead ringer
>not fucked
care to explain?
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>>180307864
>MrP
He sucks. Why should I value a pubspy? What was stabby's opinion? He at least knows how to play.

>>180307947
No argument I see.
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>>180307858
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>pyro update
>not a single mention of a pyro rebalance
i wonder if it has it's own page to be posted soon
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>>180307951
that would make it easier to track actually
did you ever try and track with a low fire rate weapon, it's much harder

>>180307514
that takes them like ten minutes

>>180307701
he would frag the shit out of you
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>>180308021
at this point, the spies who use it are so reliant on the crutch they can't/won't change loadouts no matter how much it gets nerfed

the only thing that changes is now you kill the same spy every 20 seconds instead of 15
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>DR nerf
imo they should've made it so that you can't recover cloak via ammo boxes for 10 seconds after decloaking, that way it's less spammable but still usable. Now it's pretty much just an all-purpose razorback.
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>>180306915
I dont go on Reddit either but posts with low scores generally get hidden automatically
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>>180308264
They should have just removed it
it's a crutch anyway
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>>180308360
I think the bigger probem is spy is just a shit class
If you want them to remove it, buff his other cloaks then
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Who /stocking up on strange mantreads/ here
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>>180308212
I'd say it's still garbage, regardless of the idiots who rely on it and should be put in the fucked tier.
Unless your list was the use of weapons, and not the quality of them
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Valve is ruining the Ambassador. Thanks Valve.
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>>180308116
Hello handsome
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>>180308135
no it isn't because i run pocket pistol pretty often, this thing will shoot as fast as it takes to fire 6 shots from stock before it has to reload, that is a big deal. you will see stock scout fights last several clips and we don't even know how much reserve ammo it has. i also don't think winger is okay for combat but i have shit aim. the slower firerate of the pocket pistol is specifically why i used it, so before every shot i could align easier
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>>180308553
get fuck spy kiddie
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Update:

Good: gloves of running rework
???: Vitasaw
Bad: Cleaver change
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>>180308612
hideous
>time before posting is 90 seconds now

>>180308553
spy should have never gotten the option of being an invisible flank sniper
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>>180308494
I only grabbed two before they doubled in price. :(
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>>180308810
I have never seen the full image of mascalzone. Thank you balaclavabro
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Why are people so attached to stun crits. I actually run cleaver most of the time and I'm not going to miss them because I do not rely on stuns.
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>>180308116
well duh
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reminder the GRU will still keep mini crits after switching weapons and the holster speed penalty

if you didn't notice they only mentioned no mark for death while active
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>>180308668
the vitasaw sounds good but it really is a worse ubersaw. by the time you beat enough people to get 60 percent next spawn you would have had uber the spawn before it, which would have saved your life. however i assume its not really for the max 60 percent, just that it goes that high. if your team wipes in 6s you can actually go suicide meleeman to the benefit of your team and not have to /kill yourself as quickly
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to be honest if they wanted to nerf ambassador they should've just changed it back to minicrits like it was on release
or reduced base damage so crits do like 90
removing the accuracy on first shot just leaves it up to RNG which isn't really fun for anyone
also diamondback is still kind of fucking stupid
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>>180309168
As expected
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the issue they were having wasn't how much damage it was doing, it's that it made spy too powerful at long ranges when normally that's sniper's business. my problem with that line of thinking is that it leaves the diamondback completely untouched while being able to accomplish the same damn thing.
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>>180307858
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aside from diamondback and any pyro weapons, what other borderline-broken weapons were left untouched?
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>>180309454
nice try valve employee, you'll get nothing out of me
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I don't get why people are sameffing. But whatever
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>>180309539
okay sorry, we're just gonna go ahead and drop the jungle update and close up shop. all 5 of us. later
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i don't lurk faceponch or reddit but the minigun spinup thing and the DR nerf seem like things they pulled from here
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>>180309454
Popa Sodder
Moot Molk
Horse Hitter
Reserve Shitter
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>>180309454
honestly i think they got all the ones besides diamondback and reserve shooter that i'd consider broken. i mean natascha maybe, but i think heavy's gotten enough nerfs as it is. i'm honestly more disappointed they didn't buff more shitty weapons.
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>>180297316
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>people are actually celebrating the scout nerf
i guess it's not surprise that the average tf2 player is this shit at the game
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>>180309694
most ideas from here are crossposted or emailed to the tf2 team because we care about the game if we're still here
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>>180309728
>>180309734
reserve shitter is only broken on pyro, which will almost certainly get reworked if not removed from pyro completely
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>>180308264
Learn to use IW or CnD, problem solved.

>>180308039
>Why should I value a pubspy?
You aren't suppose to. He'll either do a vid just tomorrow nerdraging over DR nerf or dig a hole for 2months until he figures out how to play CnD effectively.

>>180308553
It's still reliable up to a degree looking at the notes, also you still have the damned Diamonback at your arsenal.
The reason Volve didn't nerf DB is that it has a rather lower equip rate, now it will climb up after that Amby nerf.
I mailed them several times, either they didn't read them or didn't care. I guess they wanted Spy to get rewarded for playing objective but free crits for playing objective is abit of overdoing it?
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>>180309838
t. assblasted scout main
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>>180309454
frontier justice is pretty bullshit in the same vein of diamondback
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>>180309910
t. shitter
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>>180309838
scout wasn't nerfed, just shitty unlocks i don't want to use
i like everything in the scout section, though i'm afraid of the pbpp being a bit too strong
t. scout main
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>>180309454
I think they covered most of the egregious stuff but some people will argue toward wrangler being OP
For underpowered/forgotten weapons: FaN, shortstop, sharpened volcano fragment, scottish resistance, brass beast, both SMGs
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>>180309838
they literally made scout better and take more skill to be effective against
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>>180309960
t.charmer's chapeau fedora tricstabber xXx
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>>180309838
>scout nerf
scout wasnt nerfed
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>>180309454
Natascha needs a rework because the concept is fundamentally stupid. Same for demoknight.
Machina still has +full charge damage.
Crossbow shouldn't give uber meter period.
Conch will always be the most popular banner outside of mvm because of the lower damage requirement.
Reserve shooter on pyro just needs to be 3 shot clip again.
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>>180310107
more like
>t. Heavy who just destroyed your entire defense without an uber only to get one shot because my medic and i actually worked together as a team to destroy the sentry
rewarding players for losing their sentry, and punishing players for destroying an enemy sentry, is the dumbest unlock in the game bar none
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>>180310130
>Sandman nerfed to hell
>No more Cleaver combos
>Crit-A-Cola decimated
So, is Scout still not nerfed?
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>>180310287
In reality this is an awful theoryshit.
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>>180309849
t. never mged anyone that was using it properly
It's an insane pain in the ass. Reminder that mini crits have no fall-off.
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>>180310476
no, his unlocks were. scout still plays exactly the same for people using different loadouts
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>>180310476
nothing of value was lost
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>FoS change means absolutely nothing
>Vitasaw is a way worse ubersaw
>Crossbow builds uber slower but the huge healing is still there
>Atomizer shows how little the devs actually know about their own game
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>>180310287
And if the engi was using RR you never killed the sentry to begin with, uber or not.
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>>180310536
So, you only count Stock weapons and class abilities as "real" buffs or nerfs? Alright then, here's one, Scattergun has the same base damage and damage ramp-up, but damage drop off starts much sooner. Easy.
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>>180310485
classic, 195 damage will instakill every class but soldier and heavy, forgetting overheal. and after they finish destroying a sentry they wont have more than 195 damage. do you get kills with the crits from the frontier justice? if yes, it needs to get nerfed, because you get them exactly as i describe. an unfair advantage for players doing their fucking jobs. at least diamondback rewarded players for doing their jobs and not fucking failing at it

>>180310662
you can outdps rescue ranger, all the engineer could do is run away which isn't an option outside of payload
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>>180309960
You have to outlive your sentry which takes at least a modicum of skill and in the meantime you're stuck with three shots per clip
>>180310260
Crossbow shouldn't give uber meter period.
Holy fucking CHRIST this
Conch will always be the most popular banner outside of mvm because of the lower damage requirement.
Do you think it'd even out if they raised the damage requirement or lowered the other two? I use both other banners and (aside from rarely getting full charge) they both feel effective
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>>180310594
Vitasaw is fucking epic, if you have to pull out melee as medic don't expect to live long, vitasaw rewards you for at least trying by letting you get back into the game with n%, meaning that if the team that won mid lost 3 players, can't just take their sweet ass time and have more pressure on pushing, less stalemates yay
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>>180310849
not interested in roleplaying

>>180310946
>You have to outlive your sentry which takes at least a modicum of skill and in the meantime you're stuck with three shots per clip
engineer mains like uncle dane literally advise you to just leave. a sentry is not as important as the engineer since he can rebuild before a dead engineer can respawn, and those crits last your entire fucking life. he uses sentries as a distraction to get away, it takes skill in the same way it takes a spy skill to use dead ringer to get away
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>>180310476
>>Sandman nerfed to hell
only for long range

>>No more Cleaver combos
pyro-tier

>>Crit-A-Cola decimated
it was one of the biggest crutches

get good nigger
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your thoughts on the balance changes?
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>>180311227
I don't dislike a single listed change.
t. Scout/Demo main
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>>180311227
i like/don't mind all of them
this update might actually be good
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>>180311227
very promising, the team's actually communicating with it's players
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>>180307059
well thats on me then you dingleberry
the black box was viable because of the ability to roam and divebomb without being dependent on medkits and medics. liberty launcher was viable because you didnt have to lead in as much to get directs, but still could floorshoot like a retard and get that last bit of damage if you needed to. if you cant aim for shit to begin with like >>180307142 then its a straight downgrade.

but again, my point is that a crutch is designed to help low-skill players compete with high skill players. calling something a "crutch" doesnt mean it has to be a downgrade to high skill players, look at the dead ringer or the gunslinger. either one has the potential to be a sidegrade at least.
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>>180311227
They listened
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>>180311227
very pleased overall, some changes are weird/useless but replace mechanics that were broken and overpowered. some nerfs are amazing, such as the dead ringer especially, some are questionable. did the base jumper really need a nerf? i dunno, i guess getting that one sniper achievement will be a little bit easier. i would have liked to see more buffs of currently useless weapons, bison, rift weapons, caber etc. but otherwise, it's helping to kill the most annoying aspects of gameplay and honestly that takes priority for me and i'm glad the tf team sees it the same way. who knows, maybe the heavy update will see more changes along the lines of buffing.
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Looks great so far.
The real problem with DR was the speed boost though
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>>180310865
FJ rewards the engi for doing his job of killing people with a sentry.
>you can outdps rescue ranger
In theory, but it's harder in practice when you take into account wrangler, wrangler jumping, minigun spread and map design in general. You're also acting like the uber ALWAYS ends the moment a sentry dies which is often not the case.

FJ works fine in practice, and I know this because I have actually played the game, you theorycrafter.
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>>180311227
It's a dysfunctional combination of pub-aimed and pro-aimed changes.

The Dead Ringer nerf is pointless for the pro scene, because it was already the worst spy watch. Conversely, the Vita-Saw nerf is pointless for the pub scene.

TF2 needs to decide what the fuck it wants to be. It can't be both a silly, fun, casual game and a 2serious4u esport.
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hoppefully spy mains and other shitters aren't going to scream around too much on reddit so valve doesn't have to listen to their sub 500 hour opinions

>>180311520
i didn't read your entire conversation but the tf2g definition of a crutch has been a thing that makes bad players better AND (&&) good players worse forever
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>>180311848
tf2 has both the casual pub side and the serious side. the changes made for the pub side do not negatively affect the comp side, and vice versa.
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>GRU is now the old GRU but you get your health back
>eviction notice is still GRU-lite
why
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>>180311520
>liberty launcher was viable because you didnt have to lead in as much to get directs
Which is pointless for a soldier who can aim well with stock and get the full benefit of 4 full damage rockets.
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>vita-saw
wat
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>no word about pyro changes
I hope they treat the moonman set well ;_;
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The amby nerf and the crit-a-cola are the only changes I don't really like.

I honestly think amby was fine and anyone who bitches about it is a shitter desu.

Crit-a-cola def needs a nerf but I feel this one is a little convoluted. I think it'd be better to just make scout marked for death while it's active
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>>180311137
>it takes skill in the same way it takes a spy skill to use dead ringer to get away
Sure, but the Engineer doesn't gain speed, damage resistance, and invisibility while trying to get away
I don't really mean to say that the FJ *doesn't* basically reward you for doing your job, but it has more tangible drawbacks and you aren't given immediate upfront access to your revenge crits without destroying your own sentry and making yourself more vulnerable
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>>180209641
what is this faggy shit


also the new update looks like trash

this game deserves to be killed
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>>180312314
>The amby nerf and the crit-a-cola are the only changes I don't really like.
GET
GOOD
FAGGOT
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>>180312004
>the changes made for the pub side do not negatively affect the comp side
Yeah, like the stickybomb meganerf.
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>>180311710
the base jumper makes airshots impossible to hit in it's current state since it already changes your directory if you just deploy it and then gives you shit tons of air control on top of it

>>180311848
i do feel like these changes don't negatively impact either pubs or competitive
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>>180312374
the changes made in today's list
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>>180312359
what does that even mean?
Amby rewards high skill not low skill you fucking retard.

I don't even run C-A-C I just don't like how the nerf is implemented
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>sandman+cleaver is officially dead

Press fucking F
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>>180312348
who are you replying to
why do you press enter twice
why are you so goddamn stupid
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>>180312671
making a post

because i can

dont talk to me retard
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>gimmicks dead
>crutches dead
SO GOOD
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>>180310946
Lower damage requirement on buff banner definitely. Backup I'm not so sure.
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>>180312553
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>>180312689
>this game deserves to be killed
>dont talk to me retard
no u
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>>180312543
>Amby rewards high skill not low skill you fucking retard.
get some reading comprehension lmfao
the ambassador will work a bit less for long distances, everything else is the exact same
even jill said the change wont be as drastic as it sounds
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>>180312712
>fun dead
>SO GOOD
back to >>>/vg/d2g
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>muh fun
r u 12
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>>180312909
feel free to go and stay go anytime
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>>180312853
Was the accuracy decreased?

if you answered yes then I have sufficient reading comprehension
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>mantreads: +200% air control when blast jumping

we fucking cpma now
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>>180312853
>a bit less
It won't work for long range AT ALL you mouthbreather.
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>>180312839
all this game does it make valve money while milking the remaining retards that will still spend money on it while alienating the community that actually enjoys the game, if you really liked the game you would agree
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>RR nerfed
looks like we're back to engies hogging dispensers again
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Dead Ringer nerf is pretty neat but the DDS nerf really messes up my flare game
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>>180313046
see >>180309168
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>>180312979
No, I play this game casually
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does he have a point?
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>>180313071
>no longer have to deal with "just charge a shot :^)" sniper wars
>scorch shot spam less effective
I don't know how to feel
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>>180312146
good aim cant predict every situation though. if a scout is jumping around like a retard or someone has some distance on you, youre going to want a faster projectile to minimize the amount of movement the other guy can do before the projectile connects. theres a reason why hitscan is a generally more viable option than projectiles.
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>>180313060
>i dont like this game
>if you like this game you agree
what did he mean by this?
>>
Price of keys on the market is plummeting. ded gaem?
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>>180313060
i fucking love this game it's all i play and think about and i feel like valve is metaphorically stroking my dick with the changes they proposed
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>>180313190
>Platinum spy main
>plat
>spy
>spy main
>plat
i need the old DR, because that alone killed me
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>>180313190
>dead ringer is for aggressive play
point invalidated
every dr user ran away at the first sign of trouble, that's the opposite of aggressive

>>180313273
people preparing for upd8
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>>180313273
People trying to stock up on steambucks for the sale
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>>180313060
read it again
>>180313301
thats because you are either on the autism spectrum or a valvedrone
>>
Reminder to contact the TF Team if you don't like certain balance changes
http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php
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Why would they nerf sandman plus the cleaver? That was a combo that actually took skill to pull off
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>>180313190
>If spy is going to be the worst class in the game because sniper does literally everything better with less effort
I hate to admit it, but he does have a point.
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>>180313206
Which is why soldier has a shotgun.
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>>180313527
as much skill as setting someone on fire and hitting them with a flare LOL
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>>180313190
no because no one uses the dead ringer to actually fool you into thinking they've died. it is the get out of jail free card that he's claiming it's not and this helps to remedy that.
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>>180313527
Sandman because it's OP
Cleaver because b4nny is a fucking faggot
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>mfw they forgot that Scouts die in one hit when they have the sandman equipped
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>>180312342
it has a different bonus to deadringer, not a damage resistance or speed boost but a giant high dps turret with a great deal of health that aggros the enemy team enough to be considered a number 1 priority. even in uber rushes will a demoman remove focus from a medic to destroy a minisentry to allow their team to rush in too, 100 percent accuracy machine guns are a big fucking deal and more than enough for an engineer, otherwise a low priority target, to get away. especially if you know he has guaranteed crits for losing his sentry which will 1 shot bombing soldiers or demomen if they even fucking tried pursuing him
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>>180313527
Sandman is in a 3-way tie for fastest projectile in the game, it's not particularly difficult to hit with.
Also,
>implying hitting a slowed, disarmed enemy is hard
>>
combos like sandman + cleaver are actually extremely shallow and i am glad valve is taking a step away from them
hopefully the same is going to happen for pyro wombo combos
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>>180310287
Awful theoryshit and bait. An Engineer can give the destroy command by himself and rebuild an entirely new sentry just to harvest crits stacked in that Sentry kills. You'd never know when an Engineer with fully critloaded FJ next to a Sentry will come by.

>>180310865
It's 180 damage and it's only at hug distance for a clear meatshot. If a Heavy or Soldier allow Engineer to sneak up close they should reflect upon their choices. As for others, it's all about positioning and putting distance between themselves and Engineer. Pellet spray at long distance puts a dent in FJ's damage output, unlike Diamondback.
Rethink about how things work in game.
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>>180313190
>it was a good system, and while frustrating to play against
well there you have it, another reason to nerf it
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>>180313527
I suggest only slower draw speed for Cleaver in several mails. They decided to cut it off.
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>>180313126
I unironically can't see why out of all the games in the world people would pick tf2 to play competitively.
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>>180313576
i know we do this meme where we pretend things we dont like don't take skill but pulling off a sandman plus cleaver took more skill than most things in the game

you have to hit two projectiles from fairly long range

if that doesnt take skill then id like to know your definition of skill
>>
>>180313712
Only to the Rocket Launcher at point blank.
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>>180314084
>I suggest only slower draw speed for Cleaver in several mails.
That actually sounds like a really good idea.
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>>180313880
you are trying to say crits don't give an advantage over no crits and that shotgun is useless. if this isn't your point you have said nothing that defends your crutch weapon and you are just a shitty pub engineer
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don't forget to send valve positive feedback if you like the changes, or else the stabby wannabes will undo the spy changes
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>spy mains on reddit are going to throw a FUCKING TANTRUM as usual until valve changes the amby/dr nerfs
>>
>good balance changes
VALVE IS LISTENING
VALVE CARES
THIS UPDATE WILL BE GOOD
HOPE HAS BEEN RESTORED
IM HAPPY
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>>180313530
>using gunboats
>shotgun out of ammo
>enemy is outside of the shotgun's effective range
these are all reasons to use the old liberty
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>>180314249
If there's still the soldier using the shotgun
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>>180314380
>>
holy shit guys
we're actually reaching the bump limit really quickly
it's a miracle
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>No mention of Pyro changes except for a nerf that no one asked for.
It's ogre
Pyromania 2.0 confirmed
>>
>DDS nerfs

I will have the 3rd largest shiteating grin of my life time, just after AMD EPYC launch and the Trump Election night/week after. Pure fucking gold.
>>
>>180314286
>Landing a projectile on someone who's stunned
>Skill
Most sandman/cleaver scouts just spammed the ball until they got lucky enough to get a hit on someone, and when they missed their ball, they'd panic throw the cleaver and run the fuck away.

>>180314362
Daily reminder that Reddit throwing tantrums is why Casual ended up being worse than the old quickplay. Daily reminder that Reddit throwing tantrums is why we don't have abandon penalties so that people can leave halfway through a match if they get upset that they can't pubstomp. Daily reminder that Reddit is the reason we don't have stopwatch, the thing that makes Payload and A/D bearable, anymore.
>>
>people actually thinking any of the changes are justified and valve actually understanding the point of the classes
They're just poorly paraphrasing people with actual skill. The amby change is stupid. Lets admit to that.
>>
Can I get a quick summary of what's being changed?
>>
>>180314665
no, it took me five minutes to read through the post entirely
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>>180314591
wont admit shit, spy should not have had a sniper in the first place. learn to deal with it like the 7 other classes without a sniper rifle yeah?
>>
Read nigga read
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>>180314665
Scout's best unlocks are finally brought down, but so is the most fun combo (cleaver+sandman).
Heavy buffed finally.
Dead ringer is literally dead

Gaben will pay for this crime.
>>
>>180314591
t. mr pally


>>180314665
>DR / amby got nerfed
>YER changed to be slightly better
>DDS now counters pyros and isnt a mirror counter
>nerf the BASE'D jumper
??????
>>
>>180313867
butthurt nigger detected
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>>180314665
read it yourself you lazy fuck
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
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>>180314173
actual teamfights
balance of mechanical and strategical skill
classes that make everybody be able to take advantage of their skillset
never to be reached skill ceilings
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>>180314715
The amby is only useful in a 1v1.
>>
Is anyone's loadout from the cloud available or is it just me?
>>
>>180313725
>more than enough for an engineer, otherwise a low priority target, to get away
That's where you're wrong. Engineers are not particularly mobile and lvl 3 sentries actually die pretty quickly if they aren't being constantly repaired, which this theoretical one isn't because the engi ran away and can't spam RR bolts.
If the FJ engi in question has that much distance on the uber then his revenge crits do shit for damage because of shotgun spread.
>>
>>180314794
you wot m8?

>the CSS deagle was only useful in 1v1's
>>
>>180314776
who?

>>180314791
You described Mario Kart Wii to me and I sure as hell will laugh at you for playing that competitively.
>>
>>180315001
>>180315001
>>180315001
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>>180314917
If there's a third party involved the spy will always lose or could be utilized better.
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>>180305418
But Crossbow isnt a crutch, its a skill based item while very powerful is balanced by not being useful in the hands of retards. A real crutch is DR/DDS where its bonuses over other items exist simply for having clicked on it in item loadout screen.
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>>180314784
what am i butthurt about
i'd like pyro to be more interesting than just being m1-m2-2-m1 muscle memory
combos are boring to use because they take away having to think about which weapon you want to use
>>
>>180314883
talk about theory craft bullshit. what stops the engineer from walking away with your the frontier justice equipped to one shot literally anyone wasting their time chasing you as opposed to the combo? do you think if your sentry is destroyed having crits is less of an advantage in an escape than the other unlocks?
>>
>>180315061
what is dds?
>>
>>180315294
Darwins Danger Shield
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>>180315427
ty
>>
>>180315061
dds isn't a crutch, it's just the best possible weapon for every scenario. it's so overpowered it's insane.
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>>180314390
>worse divebombs and rollouts because 3 rockets
>crutch for bad aim/overextension
>being better at max falloff damage hits at the range beyond reliable stock rockets while being worse at anything closer
Those are all reasons old LL was a crutch.
>>
>>180315516
Say there's no medic. Wouldn't having heal be better? i don't play sniper a lot.
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>>180315648
i'm pretty sure you're thinking of the newly suggested razorback and not the shield that currently blocks headshots, gives +25 health and "explosive weakness" despite explosive damage being negated by the +25 health, making you 1 hp more effective against explosives than a sniper without the danger shield.
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>guillotine no longer mini crits

Removing the crit on stun, whatever

removing mini crits entirely, this thing is shit now. 30 damage and a bleed, its literally not worth it anymore
>>
>>180309454
u mad bc pyros roast your ass with combos lul
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>>180315151
>what stops the engineer from walking away
The uber that made the engi shit himself and IMMEDIATELY abandon the sentry in the first place. Not all sentry spots let you have a clean getaway, especially not the most secure ones which have a tendency of boxing you in with your sentry.
And having crits is less of an advantage compared to keeping the sentry alive, point that you are trying and failing to evade.
>>
>>180315112
how the fuck you're planning to make a class more "intereststingini dxdddd" adding wonky gimmick shit weapons? combos are satisfying when you land them and fun as hell because of that.
>>
so what exactly happened to medik crossbow? is it building über now when you heal teammates? and it will build at a reduced rate after the patch hits?
>>
>>180315648
DDS as stated above is basically a straight upgrade, sure no SMG/jarate was a bit difficult in some situations, but not to a point where youd use them olver DDS if you were truly going for shitter of the match award.
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>>180314324
>half clip capacity of 3
>FJ crits deals up to 3x damage up to 180 damage at point blank
>a full clip has the damage spike of 9 shotgun shells
>you have to reload after 3 shots and don't have effective 9 shots in the clip at all
>FJ doesn't stop reloading up to 2 shells when emptied like any other shotgun
>they still suffer from random spread at range where average you deal 24-40 damage pershot or so
>you can counter that easily by pressing backpedal jumps and strafing instead of pressing W
>you can still take cover from shots if you positioned properly and not pressing W
I don't think defending FJ was my attempt at the first place if all, but I'm not saying FJ is useless just you happen to think that W+M1'ing Engineers is a legit strat.
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>>180312553
This makes me legit sad
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>>180317368
>>180315854
To me it looks like it just means sniper has a total of 126 health after all calculations. But having a 1hp/s heal instead seems much more valuable than having 126 health
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