Best Weapon Edition
Weapon At Risk >>180118072
>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
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>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
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>>180157424
>>180157461
Bite me Executionerds
What are some new builds I should try?
I've done 50 STR/25 SKL, 25 STR/50 ARC, 90 ARC, SKL 50/20 STR, 25 STR, 50 BLT
Impromptu still on?
Did somebody say waifuposting?
>>180157624
YAAS QUEEN
>>180157221
>>180157274
>>180157280
>>180157289
thanks. I also never played the DLC, so I think I have a lot to do. I actually got sucked into the DLC area early in the game but stopped when I realized I was doing too shit of damage to that boss (one of those big alien things) in the area I got sent to when patches tricks you.
>>180157618
Arc/blt. Do it nerd. You won't.
>>180157618
50 EVERYTHING
>>180157618
Maybe it's time to move on anon, or just spelunk coop.
>>180157771
It's a really fun build. I have a full roster of characters but pretty much only play on my bt/arc.
>>180157618
Vit/End
>>180157649
You sure? I'm not getting anyone
>>180157618
Make a BLT or ARC twink and one-shot people with Parasite or Bloodletter
>>180157618
99 Endurance.
>>180157754
that's not the dlc, that's the Fuck-You Frontier.
>>180157890
I believe Charmaigne, Gregor, Eden, and Natalie are all still there
>>180157927
really? someone told me it was the DLC, I never found that place on my first playthrough.
>>180157830
I'm a big fan of executioner's/auguring into viscerals with oedon writhe. Risky, but rewarding.
Also cauliflower cartwheeling never gets old.
>>180157754
That's not the DLC area, that's the Nightmare Frontier. However the DLC area is accessed in the same manner.
>mfw ran into a buffed fat roller watcher in the first layer and got immediately belly flopped
I'll try again tomorrow.
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>>180158064
I hate fighting those idiots
>1137HP
I honestly didn't think this would be all that squishy guys.
I feel so soft and vulnerable.I kind of like it, makes it more satisfying when I do get a win.
>>180157796
Every time I finally finish the build, I get an urge to restart all over again. How do I stop?
>>180157908
Any tips?
>>180157968
I'm getting mad fog now so I'll probably drop out soon.
Well, since my internet doesn't seem to want to cooperate anymore I guess that's it for me. Fun fights everyone,Hugo out
>people in bbg are talking about blt/arc builds
>started one haven't finished it
>it's a cosplay build
>it's a Gwyndolin cosplay build
one day I'll bring it to FC, one day
>>180157968
location? sorry just got here
>>180158324
Loran, jjpkdcgd
27hp.
I showed Gregor mysnakeand now I can't get matched up with him anymore
>>180158251
Good fights Hugo, I love your character.
>>180158064
damn whats his routine?
> still haven't got that magical 65/15/stam heavy abyssal.
One day... One day it'll happen...
I'll have literally every single weapon I can equip +10 by then, but one day.
>>180158512
Judging by his bf%, SS+GOMAD.
>>180158316
You can do it anon. It'll take a fair share of patience and determination, but evelyn + hentai hand will be worth it in the end.
That's me done for this FC. Good fights everyone
It's only been a week but playing this game again feels weird. I think maybe I just don't like it anymore.
>that guy who doesn't heal the damage he takes from transforming bloodletter
I respect it but why? Anyone would in that circumstance.
>>180158645
It uses Bowblade actually.
Because Gwyndolin has a Longbow?
Offhand is going to be parasite hand (without broccoli), Evelyn and Rosmarinus for guns, and Hunter Tools.
How fucked am I going to be? Honestly?
>>180158809
I don't heal the transformations from the bloodletter because I feel like that's part of the fun/risk of using the weapon
>>180158809
You embrace your weapon, how are you supposed to win but by being one with your weapon, it's am extension of you and your technique, it's the violent tool that will make your legacy come true. I embrace my weapon not for winning, but for leaving a legacy, but how to leave it if I don't believe in it in the first place, believe in your weapon anon, for it's yourself, accept yourself for who you are and through knowledge of self you will acquire proficiency and obliterate in your fights
>my parasite was ungemmed
lol
>>180158809
If he does it before the fight starts he should, but if its midfight a vial would heal more than the damage of the letter transform.
>>180159005
Try dashing into an l1 next time you trick the letter. If it hits the opponent, you take zero damage, they get floored and you get edge points for the move.
Anyone still at the FC? I want to put my BL123 vileblood to use
>>180159137
I'll upload the webms I have of landing the trick attack on letter after this impromptu dies down and I feel like finding my flashdrive.
>>180158859
Obviously with that build simon's bb gun is only good tricked out, but if you're good at outspacing you can bait attacks and fire quick shots.
The parasite is a matter of opinion, I reckon. IMO it's only worth if you go all in with gems and broccoli head, but some folks will disagree.
Evelyn is always reliable, any blt build can't go wrong with it. Rosmarinus is about the same as the bowblade, if you're good about kiting/outspacing you can get some surprisingly good damage with it.
Biggest thing to keep in mind is you'll be fragile and have little for close range, spacing and kiting are a must unless yougit gud.
>have to go
>last fight
>Baconborne
>dance around each other
>get two shot by fire sawspear
How is 28vit and a clockwise+10% rune so soft and squishy?
Oh well, good fight Bacon.
>>180159368
Yeah I know, I've needed a lot of help for bosses I can normally solo with Gwyndolin, I don't mind though, he a cutie.
>>180159432
>ishigana
Good taste. 28 vit won't get you very far, desu. 40 isn't even comfy.
>>180159432
>The Vilefag is shoehorning a Gwyndolin build into Bloodborne
I'm entirely unsurprised.
Was I being cheap, Eden? If so I apologize
>>180159480
I just went for the 20end and decided to dump my leftover stats in Vit with my 50/25 blt/skland 15arc and 10str
Oh well, I gotta go, other things to do.
>>180159535
Gwyndolin is my fav character.
>>180159582
Not at all. I thought we were messing around desu.that hide and go seek match
Spelunk, anyone? You can pick the chalice
>losing to that shitty waifufag eggnog
God I'm never going to play this game again.
>>180159905
>>180159905
He has been playing really well tonight
>>180159905
Though I guess it doesn't matter since I was using a shitty converted LHB.
>>180159961
The guy is straight garbage, I must just be hella off tonight.
Rom stuck anon here, after five tries nearly beat it, but the aoe got me as I thought the animation was him dying. He had a sliver of hp left and I have never felt more defeated.
Jesus, that was a close match. Good fight again, Eden.
>>180159905
>mfw you lost twice with an evelyn, and LHB
>>180160139
I have no idea how to use LHB, I've only used it three times period, not to mention the converted AR is considerably lower than physical.
>>180159905
>>180160009
>I-I-I'm not bad, h-he's bad!
Lmaoing at your life my dude
>>180160030
I've literally sat on the couch and watched my friend do the same thing with Amelia. It's a painful thing, anon.
But if you did it once, you can do it again. Patience and awareness hoonter, you'll get through it.
>>180159884
How about Isz?
>>180160139
>>180160009
>LHB
>Evelyn
>>180160203
He's arguably pretty bad, and I'm admittedly playing like shit.
What's with these rubber pillars at the FC.
>My first win against Gregor was a tie
Didn't mean to ACB while you were gesturing
>>180160258
>>180160203
>this is the face of the antiwaifufags
LITERAL LHBABBIES GUNSPAMMING WITH EVELYN
Fighting letter with stake is always such a meme. Stake has zero opportunities to do anything against such a long weapon.
Segalt thank you a ton for hosting but I've gotta take a break for a while. The drops are making me too sad.
3x atk down
4x -hp
Only 3 so far have been usable, not even good.
>>180160216
Sounds good. Glyph is vbqacb4p and pass is bbg234
The LHB moveset is absolutely not fun in any way. Why would anyone use this without 3 blunts? Non-blunt gem damage is so mediocre, coupled with a boring moveset. Why do people like this weapon?
>>180160508
I'll join too but you gotta give me a few to hop on. Start without me but keep the bell ringing
>>180160631
No problem, if you post when you're ready I could run back to the lamp to grab you
>>180160718
Just about to ring small at lamp
>When Eden begins to dash R1 with BloodletterG-Good fight
>Brush off gesture
Pls Alice, I even put away the letter because you were whining
>>180160924
I meant it as a meme in a funny way. I like the matchup. I didn't meant to sound like I was complaining. Don't take my gestures or crushing vermin too seriously ever, friend.
>>180160878
Was that you Eggnog, yeah that was pretty lame. My bad
Well beast roar whirli almost worked but I imagine you guys took care of it from there. I'll srrc for L2I'm going to blame my Chinese internet
>>180160618
>Lobos favorite weapon is LHB
really makes you think...
>>180160618
I have the same feeling about the hunter axe. Both weapons are incredibly weak and boring, imo. Tricked forms are just a 2h slowed down non-tricked form.
>>180160984
Oh ok all good. You're a tough matchup. Also that was a really fun fight Gregor
>>180161114
My connection isn't great either at the moment. Someone is uploading at the moment which can't be helping with the latency for you guys.
don't let impromptu die. I missed the two latest fc
I tried to parry that L2 and fucked up hard lol
>srrc
Impromptu happening?
Where?
I ALWAYS LOSE TO CRANSTON
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That was a really fun 6 hours. Good fights everyone.Edenout.
>>180161658
I think there's still some folks in Loran.
>>180161658
This, where we at? I want to go get destroyed on my new build.
Really not my chalice todayDidn't step on the fkn trap either
>>180161695
if you maybe do something else than backdash and use tools you might win
>>180161793I thought you did, unless I did accidentally but I thought I was looking out for it
>>180161832
Either way back to srrc. See you in 2 years haha
>>180161801
I'll win against you one day, you stupid cauliflower
>>180161785
You L2ing son of a bitch don't you leave until I can get my revenge
>can't win with Ludwig's Holy Blade so switches to Saif
>>180161946
Aight I'm back in for another 20 mins
>>180162217
Imagine how fucking assblasted he is
I'm doin' pretty bad now, so I'm going to take a break
Good fight, Baconborne
Vrom anon back again, thanks for the tips just beat the fucker. Can finally progress.
>you'll never meet teacher at a FC
>>180162383
Always a pleasureescanor? Eggnog?
>>180162453
>I will never win in a FC.
>>180162510Eggnog
>>180162453
Well, I'm a teacher in real life if that counts.
>>180162219
>Flubbed the input on the jump attack
>>180162596
I thought that was going to be double KO. Good fight
I hope that last shockwave catch wasn't too off on your end, Bacon. It was on the very tip on mine.
I wish the Stake Driver staggered harder,
>>180162747
I feel the same, I use it a lot on my other build, Alice.
>Dying to executioner's gloves. Fuck I deserved that, gg
The Kirk is rapidly becoming the most terrifying thing I have to fight.
>>180162968
Laggy kirk is becoming the bane of my existence
Why does the moon presence trap you in the dream in one ending? I thought the job (kill a great one) was done already so why continue the dream? Also if you choose to let Gehrman kill you will he escape the dream too?
>>180160618
People always had huge boners for greatswords in any game
>>180162667
At least now i know not to stand in front of you...
Thanks for coming along Charmander and Albatross, nothing too interesting in that chalice. I swear FRC Amygdala is always in that room.
>miss the swing
>the shockwave still lands
ah, Kirk
>>180163143
I've heard someone say that the moon presence actually likes you and wants you to keep you in the dream(the great ones' intentions are cryptic and all) and in the cords ending you basically reject it's "love" and it attacks you because it's heartbroken or some shit.
Doesn't make much sense but i guess it could work for the cryptic intentions shit.
Fun fact /bbg/, you cannot get eyes inside your brain, but as I have just learned you can develop pimples inside your eyelids.HELP ME! OH GOD!
>>180162596
CHUNKY ASS MAN
>>180163359
>using eromanga-sensei pics
You're on my permanent shitlist, Escanor.
>>180163323
No worries. Was good despite me tanking hard.
>>180163143
Great ones want babies. Gehrman was MPs baby. You were gonna be the replacement
>>180163416
There's a eye drop specially for that. Google antiseptic eye drops like desomedine. No, it doesn't sting.
Who do you think is the most powerful beast in all of Bloodborne by lore?
My bet is on Laurence, i suspect that being the first cleric beast he was far stronger than what we see in the nightmare.
>>180163648
Darkbeast Paarl was probably a terrifying monster back when he was alive. Consider the Darkbeast we fight is basically just a corpse being held together with scraps of mummified skin and kept going by some unnatural electricity.
I had no idea that rifle did so much damage, Escanor. Kek, I love double KOs.
>>180163883
It did 5 damage... didn't you realize you were with a sliver of health?
>>180163424
Here, just for you.
Today, I learnt that you can only change the direction of the charged tricked stake driver R2 if you're unlocked.
I think.
>>180163794
Guess so, but all the descriptions regarding the darkbeasts mention their undead nature, so maybe they unlock their true potential in death?idk
How much health, Lotte?
>>180164069
Around 120
>>180164043
I don't think darkbeasts are truly undead. I mean they cower in fear when you stun the electricity out of them.
>>180164186
You mean 1200?
>>180164201
Maybe the electricity is literally their battery,
Maybe when you stun Paarl you don't really stun him, but you literally send him back to death for a brief second.
>>180164280
You mean my full hp? When i invade i have 1360 health with runes
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I TRIED TO DODGE WTF
FUCKing trick attacks triggering off dodges.
>Trading a FoG 100 damage hit with a full on Kirk hit.
Not my finest move.
Can anyone help with OoK? Gettin rekt
>>180164615
Pass?
>finally beat Cranston
now I can die in peace
So I killed the weird vermin spider boss thing and now Im in some fucked up place with weird shit all over the buildings.
The dudes just ressurect over and over. wtf do I do, just rush through them all? I kind of spent all my vials at the 3 dudes boss and I feel like I have to farm vials again.
Where do you guys farm the potions?
>>180164625
Not sure man, I'm ringing at the entrance
>>180164683
Try setting it to bbg
>>180164683
You need to set a password in your network settings to connect to specific people. If we ring without a password there's no guarantee that we'll get you, and without knowing your level we could even be out of range to be summoned.
Ok /bbg/ lets get a list of who the best players in each class are:
STR/ARC- Gregor
Ayy- ???
BLT- ???
STR- Escanor
SKL- ???
Beast- Jezebel
>>180164672
Yahar'gul. There are several bell maidens in that area respawning the mobs. You can run past and kill them quickly to prevent from respawning.
For vials, just farm blood echoes from the Lecture Building and then buy the vials in the Dream.
>>180164856
Ayy is definitely Cranston. BLT is absolutely Mercure.
>>180164856
Fuck off
Also Morgan I saw my life flash before my eyes I thought you were gonna explode me there with that L2 of death. Fighting you is always terrifying.
Cheers mate! Was losing my mind haha
>>180164913
Thanks, my fellow Hunter
>>180164925
Isn't Mercure BLT/ARC?
>>180164856
While I'm certainly flattered you'd think so, I'll be completely honest when I say most of my wins using the Beast Claw is from just smashing R1 a lot.27 endurance is fun, but also a bit of a crutch.
>>180164856
What about pure ARC?
>>180164856
You forgotCute-???
>>180165094
Baboonfag, of course.
>>180164925
>Cranston
>Dashing R1
>Best ARC player
>>180165094Either Natalie or EggnogNatalie was a vileblood-whore though so probably Eggy
>>180164937
Who are you so I can crush vermin on you?
>want to help anons but keep forgetting I haven't cleared anything in this cycle
Does anyone want to come along for NG+4 (or maybe 5) DLC? I'll be ringing at the Hunter's Nightmare lamp with the pass bbg234
>>180165139
They asked for best Ayy, not best ARC build. Nice reading comprehension.
>>180165148
Eggnog
>>180165094Also Gregor
>>180157354
anyone pvping?
Story Eb, anyone up? Pass is kosm
Anybody doing anything? I'm bored, and my sleeping schedule is beyond fucked so I might as well help/spelunk
>>180165216
in jjpk there some brawling going down
>>180165231
Ebrietas? Still ringing?
>>180165202
ur not eggnog
Reminder that crushing vermin on eggnog is rape
>>180165365
What about 360clap?
>>180165178
Still ringing?
>>180165318
Gonna go help that other anon because Segaltl probably cucked me
>>180165414
Yeah, I'm beckoning at the lamp still
>>180165392
tentacle rape
>>180165318You got me. I'm Tiramisu.
Escanor, I got confused at the end. First time I've seen you use Kirk untricked.
>>180165231
Brutal Church Pick, holy shit
Thanks man!
>>180165432
Ringadingding now.
>>180164856
Too many people regularly in FCs to make a solid list. Plus even the best can eat shit hard against literal whos sometimes.
>>180165450
I'm using two Kirks now. One blunt and one normal for using the untricked form. Sometimes I mess up which one is which and end up using the wrong one.
Anyone for ROMoulade?
bbg77
Again, i have no friends
Thanks Boss. Don't tell anyone, please.
>>180165529He slammed me too
>>180165529
>One-shotted by boom-hammer
Holy fuck, NG+4/5 is no joke
>>180165743
I'm pretty sure it's NG+5 but I don't know a reliable way to tell. I can't go off key items I've picked up because I tend to sell extra stuff. All I know is that it is at least +4.
>>180165717
We all make mistakes friendo.Like me, trying to these fucking weapons.
>>180165365
I want people to crush vermin on me
>>180165874
I'll crush vermin on youbarefoot
>>180165874
Fuck off
>>180165874
What's your name so I can never crush vermin on you?
>>180165901
That's hecking lewd!
>>180165919
No
>>180165964Cheesecake
>>180165964
Uh, Eggnog.
>>180165964
Eggnog
Someone post the Cute! bbg chart.
>>180165248
thanks, coming
>>180166182
I'll make one give me a second
>Straight up failed to press dodge.
>>180166182
>>180166294
thats a cute butte
>Actually discussing a drink
I just FUCKED up my playthrough
got to gehrman fight last year borrowing this game, didn't get to kill him. Finally bought the game, played through from start, just got to him, pressed options button to skip dialogue, unknowingly accepting to wake from the dream rather than fight and now I'm in NG+
I don't have it in me to playthrough the game again. FUCK FUCK FUCK
Hey, Yuria
My screen turned black and it won't change when you went into the boss fog
Well, I'm off. Thanks for the good fights, hunters, every single one of you is great, no exceptions.
>>180166182
2000hours in paint
>>180166645I died trying to BMH out, I figured something happened.
>>180166591
you still want to go to ng+ to start farming gems in chalice dungeons. also this really happened to everybody.
>>180166697
>Eggnog's picture is of Iosfeka
Why?
>>180166739
>he doesn't know
>>180166697
baboon is the only one that's relevant, delete the rest
>>180166693
>mfw ringing in jjpk for 10 minutes not getting summoned even once
>>180166739
I didn't have anything better.
Hindsight suggests I could have grabbed an actual picture of Eggnog, like the drink.
>>180166756
I included the Baboon because having just those two felt weird and stalkery.
>>180166697
You know it.
>>180166789
Just BHM and try again.
>>180166789
Where did you get this picture of Eggnog from?
>>180166789
I'm still here but I've also been ringing for a while without getting anything, so who knows.
>>180166724
I just don't care enough, especially considering I'm not playing online.
Alright, I'm out for the night, GGs.
Logarius co-op?
bbg77
>>180166829
I can't use it for some reason
>>180166835
>imagine that eggnog is reviewbrah
>Thought I was out of range for Ludwig's sword raising up move
>Get slammed
I got him Eggnog, I'll ring in that little corridor bit after the boss room after I restock
>>180166962
>imagining reviewbrah crossdressing in teacher clothes and showing his boypussy to me
>boner
Anyone spelunking?
>>180166842
that sucks, it especially makes me ree when I see the ghost
>>180167079
Pretty weird, anon.
>>180167029
Didn't even know you could summon before Research Hall
My favorite part about fighting the Bloodletter is the part where you completely destroy the guy and then one thing goes wrong and you die instantly for it.
>>180167119
I might start a deep dark dungeon soon, seeing that the combination of my lack of skill + the awfulness of the Stake Driver+NoParry combo has led me to win a whole 5 or 6 fights over the last maybe 2 hours.
>>180167216
I only fought you once but I appreciate your gimmick. I wish you nothing but luck in getting better with the stake.
>>180167019
just get close to him
>>180167187
>the way it hits you with the end of a R1 and then just brushes immediately a second R1 for a billion damage
>the 1k damage uncharged R2 with almost no recovery and a 270 hitbox
>the L2 of death with the most convoluted range in the galaxy
>>180167187
Applies to chikage too
>>180167434
Except it doesn't because Chikage only has one good move and it's hugely telegraphed and easy to dodge. The Bloodletter has infinite range, giant sweeping hitboxes, and a fucking AoE that does charged R2 damage that has armor. Chikage sucks and doesn't even begin to compare.
>turned up for normiebook fightclub as memelash cosplay
>kos parasite fists, augur and call only
>mfw I actually win a lot
>>180167515
>he hasn't realized every vileblood is a pinglord who literally teleports when they attack
>>180167216
The strength of the Stake Driver lies in how fast its attacks come out and how strong they actually are when chained. Get close and punch the shit out of people while they try to do anything.
>>180167561
>memeolash
>kos parasite
Ahhh kys, or some say kill yourself
>>180167515
Every time I'm hit by unzip it's at least a mile away and it does minimum 1/2 of my HP.
>>180167573
Bad enough lag makes literally any weapon impossible to fight. Chikage isn't special in that regard.
>>180167675
Chikage is special because that one attack they spam takes half of your hp when you can't see it and with their lag and evelyn spamming they might get lucky and parry you out of nowhere
>>180167752
Saw spear does similarly large damage on 50/25 or 50/50. Fully gemmed whirli is the same, and has arguably worse phantom range than the chikage.
>>180167515
I find the Letter easier to deal with than the Chikage.
The letter at least has an actual moveset that you can learn and counter by good timed dodges and knowing when it's safe to put a hit in.
Chikage users just keep zipping and if you get nowhere close to them they unzip and win every single trade and so you can do NOTHING but stay away and spam guns to maybe get a parry. Even when you hit them before they unzip the hitbox still connects you for half your life.
>>180167824
Yeah but i've never seen even one guy using it
Standing still meta
>>180167824
No weapon wins in phantom range against the Saif. It's just fucking ridiculous.
So I've been playing Bloodborne for a while now and I just recently got hooked up on chalice dungeons. (originally I found them to be extremely repetitive and boring)
I spent 5 hours of exploring and unlockig shit and killed Abbhorrent friend just a few minutes ago. So I have one single question:
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING GEMS???
The best I received was a 15% Physical gem. That's 5 hours of exploring repetitive shit and I eventually just succumbed and gave up. It took me 20 mins to get the 18% Physical one from the main storyline. What's Miyazaki's fucking problem?
>Actually die to the living failures
I am the worst co-op partner
>invading with beast claw build and brador's set
>some guy 2shots me with a fire saif
>jesus christ that weapon is fucking cancer
>check my armor
>40 fire def
>>180168083
literally look at op
>>180168131Don't tell anyone I died too
>>180167594
The problem is just how close you need to get, even then you tend to lose trades even with 50/25 str/skl and perfect gems.
>>180168083
>only layer 4
give it time, sweet child
I heard the shark giants drop good physical gems.
S-should i farm them
>>180168203
Fuck no dude
>>180168168
The first step is accepting that the Stake will always be a worse Rakuyo/Saif. Everything the Stake can do, those can do better. Once you accepted that, you start to get good to compensate, your best shot is staring with slow weapons you can interrupt.
I couldn't find it, but I have a video of me killing a bloodletter user with it. You just gotta chain those quick R1s or 300+ damage each.
For an arcane build with 25 str would I need a normal or uncanny holy moonlight sword?
Hey Boss, wanna go spelunking? I have a fresh frc isz or an ihyll layer 3 you can srrc in. It should be fun to take a break for a little while from the fc
>>180168387
Lost.
>That FoG uppercut to cancel a killing blow.
>>180168342
It's less that I can't get a single win, I did just kill a BL user, but it's the amount of effort required compared to other weapons.
It's fun anyway. Every win feels a lot more satisfying.
>>180168410
I've actually won like, 3/6 of my last few matches which is a damn lot better than I expected. When I start choking like a retard again, sure.
>>180168241
But i need dem gems
>>180168415
but the best arcane setup is radials and a triangle
>DIED TO LIVING FAILURES AGAINKill me, pete
>>180168534
Moonlight Sword wants nourishing abyssals, and the highest percent you can get on those in radial is 19.5% from FRC Rom. Triangle and waning nourishings go up to 21.5%. Therefore, lost is best for weapons that want nourishing gems.
>>180168583
Got 'em. They're such damage sponges in NG+5. Give me a sec to trigger Maria and restock
>>180168759I haven't done Living Failures yet on my game
I'm about to fire up Bloodborne for the first time, should I worry about endings or anything the first time around? Also any good tips and whatnot?
>>180168784
Oh, want to summon me for Research Hall? I'll ring at the lamp
>>180168835
Ringing then.
>>180168803
Don't be a pussy and submit your life, now leave the thread
>>180168701
oh, does the transformed MLS still do physical damage? I thought it was arcane only
>>180168803
If youre going for the platinum you'll need to complete all endings, it doesnt matter in what order so just play however you want
>>180168803
get out of here before you're spoiled
>>180166591
If you want I can host a Gehrman fight for you and sit back while you kill him. Same for Moon Moon.
>>180168803
Don't fuck with the wolves
>>180168854d-don't tell anyone that happened. Also let's do your Maria first, assuming you want to do Hamlet as well
>>180169078
Lemme initiate it first, and then I'll ring. Also does the quest for Milkweed become unavailable or can I do at any point of the DLC?
Amy co-op?
bbg77
>>180169126
I don't think killing bosses affects her questline at all, no.
>>180169228
Story or defiled?
>>180169267
just story
>>180169303
Coming
tyqt
Is fite club more or less dead?
>>180169303
Fog or lamp?
I really need to get myself a saw spear for co-op
A fellow bloodfriend and I kust found out we can't trade items between characters... Ultimate sads.
>>180169436
already downed
>We are now going to engage against NG+5 Fish Giants and OoK
>>180169671
Anybody wants to farm Heavy Abyssals?
>>180169671
I'll beckon you at the hut.I just ran past sharkguy
>>180170012Can you help me get to hut
>>180170051
Okay ringing, I might be afk for a sec if you beckon me
Someone come for the One Abortion?
bbg77
>mfw everytime I die as a co-op partner
Where do I farm ritual blood 5 if I haven't unlocked depth 5 yet?
>pop-in on Rom
>>180170940
ailing loran, just recreate the dungeon with the search funcion and run to the room at the bottom of the corridor, get the blood, delete chalice and repeat
>>180159432
>>180159629
Who is this Mandolin I keep hearing about?
Are 27.2% really the best physical gems? You would think the best gems would be all abyssals.
>>180171240
They're more consistent in terms of power. Tempering Abyssals with a good secondary like ATK UP at full HP could potentially deal more damage but meh?
>>180171207
Go away Pontiff posters
>One-shotted by OoK
This is gonna be hell, isn't it?
w-we got this
Can you people imagine if one of the chalices had a fish giant from the dlc as one of it's "mob turned boss" bosses?
>>180171867
Only if it is two of them.
I should really get a backup weapon, HMLS is way too slow for this boss.
>mfw trying to solo cursed pthumeru chalice for the first time in NG+
Don't know if getting to fight Yharnam is worth it t b h
Just found out that madmen are the only npcs that gesture
>>180171981He's highly resistant to Arcane damage as well
>>180171996
You probably know this already, but NG cycles don't affect chalice dungeons.
>>180171956
>fighting 2 fish giants with boss hp in the small arena with the pillars
>>180172026
I know but I thought by the time I hit NG+ it would make this easier but apparently not
>>180172019
I'm going to get on my BLT character for this fight.Finally found a reason to use her
>>180172084
>all their attacks hmph through the pillars
Micolash?
bbg77
>>180172103
The should all be extremely easy. The Bosses all have gimmicks, and the regular enemies can all be staggered quickly or be parried.
>>180172235
hey man i'm not telling you how to play the game but you really shouldn't ask for help for every other boss
>>180172235
coming
>>180172183
Can you even parry those things.
Is there a way to fight them face by face
>>180172258
im running through on this low lvl alt ive had forever, its not a matter of needing help, it just speeds things up dramatically
>>180172360
Yes, parry the first one, SBB when it calls for help, let them beat the crap out of one another (might need to hit is with another SBB) then just finish off the survivor.
Isnt using the Bloodletter in Fight Club a bad idea, since tricking it uses your health?
>>180172468
I'm not even interested in the rakuchio or whatever its name is, just asking
>>180172714
Trick it before the match and leave it tricked until the end of the match to use your artillery as a finisher. If you need to trick during the match, aim for the transformation attack, since that will regain most of your health on hit.
>>180172783
The answer is still the same. Parries then the Shaman Bone Blade method is the easiest way to beat them.
>tfw I'm playing worse and worse because I'm starting to crash
>>180171240
It's either poorman's or charge ATK, I don't remember the numbers.
>>180172360
Guys, new to gem farming here, I'm guessing I don't have to recreate the same dungeons each time in order to reroll the merciless watcher's drop? Or should I?
>>180173227
>these types of pictures
boner why
>>180173227
For Watcher boss you have to recreate the dungeon or savescum each time.
For shotgun Watcher you can just BHM and try again.
>>180173041
Ew you grabbed it's fish dick
>>180173330
Aight, thanks
help an idiot. got a cursed fire blood gem (3)
will fire atk up 15% override atk vs beasts down -8.5%? i imagine the fire atk has to go through defense anyway whereas the atk vs beasts is just a straight reduction.
Holy fuck, what a rush. We finally did it after seemingly endless suffering
>NG+5 Orphan finally down
Thanks for coming along for the ride, anon
>>180173798
if you want fire gems you try not to get the beast down curse, since that weapon is what you'll use against beasts
>>180173798
what weapon nd what are your other gems?
>>180173882
Sure thing, anon. Let me know if you need anything else
>those near flawless dodges and perfect aggressiveness
>>180173798
>will fire atk up 15% override atk vs beasts down -8.5%?
No, just like a thrust gem with Kin down.
>TFW Luci still posts here even though he repeatedly gets cucked by Machine
>>180174387
I filter the spammer a long time ago.
Reminder not to reply to tripfags.
Clone Machine do you go to fightclubs?
anyone spelunking?
100k Blood echoes says clone Machine is Gregor
how many weebs in this general
>>180174873
If you play Bloodborne you are already a weeb
>>180175028
>being this autistic
>>180174681
Imagine if it was Segalt.
>>180174873
Well, it's a jap style board run by a jap, so probably everyone
>>180175108
>being this autistic
already dead
>page 3
>>180175792
It's not dead, we're all just veryshy
Why the fuck do people like Gehrman
He's the shittiest humanoid boss in the entire fucking game, he's unironically got 4 moves in each phase and they're all the same shit
he's the only boss that deserves the parry cheese
>>180176268
It looks like you're mad
>>180176703
Not mad, just stating the fact that the keeper's dog has more moves than him in one phase
Also delete this trash the doll isn't an edgelord like maria
FRC Loran
Glyph: 8fi8366t
Pass: pizza
>>180177373
on my way
>>180177373
this a spelunk?
coming!
So who's the toughest boss of all the chalices?
>>180177567
frc hmph in the 3 layer l1 room
Maria anyone?
bbg77
I fell lmao
>>180177127
Do you know how to count? I don't think so.
holyfuck i got bodyblocked so hard by the spoidahs, reringing
>>180177373
I dashed into layer 4 lmao, reringing
>>180177634
>3 layer l1 room
What?
Does anybody know who Killian is/was?
Does he still come here?
>>180177716
Still ringing?
>>180178097
yep
my oh my..
>>180177797
Scythe gehrman has the jump, the dash, another dash and the hyper armor bullshit
Sabre gehrman has the combo, the gunshot, another gunshot and the parry gunshot
There's the explosion that hardly counts as an attack and the windy shit that only comes when he's almost dead.
Not to mention how he obviously doesn't keep the old attacks when he changes phases, so he's left with the garbage he has in that phase
Was that queen killer?
>>180178335
He can change from scythe to sabre at will, it has nothing to do with phases. You also forgot some attacks like the spin and trick attacks.
>the windy shit that only comes when he's almost dead.
I have never seen that one.
>>180179005
Changing weapons randomly only comes when he's about 50/40% hp.
>i've never seen that one
the attack where he jumps in the air, slashes and then an explosion on the ground comes out.
Clear deep sea in pre-lantern area chest boys!
WHY THE FUCK WON'T THE CHOIR BELL HEAL THE FAGGOT SUMMON AT THE LORAN DARKBEAST
>>180179190
>Changing weapons randomly only comes when he's about 50/40% hp.
Nope, at any time.
>the attack where he jumps in the air, slashes and then an explosion on the ground comes out.
I thought that was the scythe jump. Well, add one more to the "4 moves in each phase and they're all the same shit".
>>180179710
Did you even fight gehrman?
He will always start at the scythe and then take the sabre when you take a quarter of his hp, changing randomly comes later.
Also the windy shit is only an attack he does when he's basically dead and he almost never does it.
>>180179802
He always start with the scythe but can change at random before second phase. He can do the windy attack at any time after the explosion.
>when you take a quarter of his hp
>100 - 25 = around 50/40
Damn that was fun, thank you Lotte and Flynn for joining me!
>>180180354
Anytime!well not exactly anytime give 40 minutes to do irl stuff and then ill be back!
>>180180354
yeah that was a pretty cool dungeon layout, shame about the bosses, any notable ritual materials worth going back for?
>>180180502
9 sage's hair, that's it
>>180180459
Also there were a LOT of bone ash hunters or was that just me?
>>180180768
Yeah there were like 2 or 3 in each layer
So when you create a Root Chalice FRC do you create them depending on what you want? I've done two so far, and I got mostly Radials for Ihyll and mostly Triangulars from Isz. So I would assume someone wanting Radials would make Ihyll and not Isz right?
>>180180927
I only create my FRCs for fun, if you want gems go to a glyph.
>>180181156
Do many people here run FRCs for fun? I figure most would just grind the top tier Blood Gems.
>>180181571
Running FRC dungeons with other two bros is pretty fun
>>180181571
There was one just now. What's the point in farming if you never use your Korean gems?
tfw ded hours
I'm honestly confused on FRC glyphs. I can search a Isz FRC perfectly fine but when I try to search a lthyll FRC I get a "You do not meet the requirements" message. What the fuck?
>>180182086
Do you have the Ihyll root chalice from defeating Headless Bloodletting Beast on Ihyll L2?
>>180182086
have you beat HBLB? You need to own the root chalice to search for a chalice FRC
>>180182086
Do you have the Ihyll root chalice in your inventory? if it's a sinister one you also need to make one
Never had any problem with HBLB before today, suddenly this motherfucker is being the bitchest fucking fag ever. I'm angry.
>>180182131
>>180182149
>>180182179
I have the Ithyll Root Chalice, I have all the story chalices. That's why I'm confused.
>>180182197
Different things can cause problems for different builds or weapons
>>180182325
Is it sinister? you need to have/ make that too
>>180182363
I was farming him yesterday on the same character.
>>180182420
I'm honestly not sure, I just looked up a glyph for 27.2 Radials and got that code. It says F/R/C but nothing about Sinister.
>>180182420
Nevermind I figured it out. Before when I tried it I had not created my own FRC dungeon. So I should be fine now.
>>180182507
have you made a FRC root chalice?
>>180182659
I a few days ago, which explains why I was able to search a Isz FRC chalice. I should be good to go now on this other one.
>31 degrees outside
>first run
>got to Blood-staved beast
>fight so close poison killed me immediately after killing it
>palsm running with sweat
>mfw
>>180182454
Guess HBLB's just being a shithead then
>>180182953
>live in Florida
>the past three weeks have literally been nothing but rain and storms, apart from a single day where the sun came out
>get to stay comfy and play BB as a storm rages outside
"Sunshine state", yeah fucking right.
Is there someone at FC or farming wanings right now ?
>>180182953
>live in California
>8 am
>90 degrees already
Screamin'
99 bloodtinge is not so fun bbg, you lied to me...
>>180168803
BB is best blind. Though if you really cant help yourself as far as endings go, try to limit yourself to ONLY googlingumbilical cordsand doing your best not to read anything else.
The game is short enough and have enough replay value that you can google the shit out of everything for your 2nd playthrough and/or NG+
anyone want to clear research hall with me? pass is chynn
>>180183970
Who told you to go 99 BLT?
>FC going on
>Monday morning
What in the fuck are you niggers doing?
>>180184871
It's not STILL going, is it?
>>180184871
Eh? Where?
>want to coop with /bbg/
>stuck at a slow ass day at work
help
>>180184964
>>180184997
Idk if it's going on still. I was just reading up the thread some. FC is usually Sunday. Was this just a really successful impromptu?
If I have the choice between going from 45 VIT to 50 or 15 END to 20, which should I pick?
I'm unsure if the extra 76 HP (a bit more with Clockwise runes) is actually that huge compared to a possible extra attack/dodge, but maybe I'm just a chump.
>>180184413
Still looking for co-op?
>>180185283
yup, area clear but ill ring right outside the fog door
Post gem setups you're proud of /bbg/.
>>180183970
But you have the bloodletter
So is it only the thrust attacks of the church pick that get the bonus against beasts/kin?
>>180185582
Kin receive extra damage from the thrust attacks. Beasts receive extra from the serrated bonus.
>>180178075
Yes, it's Mercure
>>180185582
Yes for Beasts (serration). Doesn't have a bonus against Kin, they just have very low Thrust defense.
killed maria first try, so ringing by hamlet lamp if youre still free
>>180185432
Never again.
>>180185432
How hard is it to get through the game with a build like that?
>>180185880
Everything except the DLC was easy as fuck. Arcane is the supreme cheese. Most of chalices was pretty trivial except rom, descendant, and headless. Some other bosses gave me a bit of trouble but it wasn't unbearable. Pretty much everything in FRCs kills me in one hit so it's very intense to run through them. A fun build overall. I use it to get to 98 for FC and then revert my save.
check out my OOS gems guys :)
>>180185852
Fucking nice. I always see a few people who have these perfects and I wonder if they were that lucky or they went for 31.5% only. I'm trying to do it on a build I have but I'm missing a few gems. It's soul crushing.
>>180157354
Hey I'd like to play this too
would you mind asking SONY if they release it on PC?
Man what do you guys go through to get these top tier gems?
>have lvl ~180 build on NG+3
>been lurking these threads for months but never had the desire to play with anyone till now
So my best bet is to say fuck it and make a new hoontah? Can I get a quick rundown of all the builds that are worth making?
>>180186258
I'm not impressed. I have like 30 of them.:^(
>>180186278
Do it slowly. I farmed for around one week, 300-500 runs per day. I don't know about other people, but I get on average 2 out-shapes every 100 runs.
>>180185852
Morgan, the naapatbx dungeon we ran (that fucking pig) to get to the Layer 3 Watcher was absolutely worth it. Once you know how to kill the watcher in that cramped space consistently, it's really easy to farm a lot of 31.5s, thanks dude.
>>180186656
Yes. 50/25 Str/Skl, 25/50 Str/Skl, 50+ Arc, 50 Blt, 28/50 Str/Blt and 25/50 Str/Arc are common ones. FC meta is 80-120 but most people stick to 98-117 or somewhere in between.
>>180186825
Nice, I'll check it out. Never tried any glyph other than y592.
>>180157354
Hey, I just turned on bloodborne yesterday for the first time in a year, and the online worked without me having to have playstation plus. I saw phantoms and everything. Today though, i turn it on, and i cant get back online. Does anyone know how it glitched? how it can be exploited?
Who wants to bully Maria with me? Then Fishing Hamlet and Orphan of Kos.
Pass bbullyg ringing at the Fog gate
>>180187143
Wasnt there a free week of PS Plus or something that ended very recently?
ok segalt, im just going to grab the church cannon and bloodletter and then ill ring outside lawrence, if youre tired or want to help the other anon ,then thanks for the help, as always
>>180187143
Free multiplayer that ended on the 16th.
>>180187163
Coming
>>180185432
>>180187163
On my way
>>180186998
Thank you Anon. Can I inquire about your character(s)? What do you use the most? And do you use any Lost/Uncanny weapons? I'm dicking around with various weapons on the lvl 180 trying to get inspired
>>180187493
Hnnngggg
Very nice.
>>180187448
>>180187531
Thank you two, but Segalt already helped me out.
Now ringing at first hamlet lamp
>>180187706
My most played character is Str/Arc, has the 2nd most weapon variety with Tools. Uncanny versions of weapons are usually for Phys builds that need a weapon version with a Triangle instead of Waning. Lost is for Arc or Blt builds most of the time. Lost is also best for split weapons like Wheel and HMS on a Str/Arc build.
>>180187381
Ringing?
>>180188027
yup
oops,thats embarassing
>can clear nearly all FRC chalice dungeons I go into solo without taking much damage
>always die within a minute during FRC coop runs because I get anxious and make stupid mistakes
Every time.
and again, thanks. i'm going through chalices now starting at loran with pass chynn if anyone wants to srrc
can I have someone else play on my character by uploading my save, having them sign into my psn on their ps4 and download the save and play?
>>180188828
Yes.
>>180188828
Yes
lads these are my stats from last year when I was doing a wheel build, i'm currently at level 99. What's the meta level and do you guys have any tips as to what I should level next? Also how do I trigger new game+? Already platinumed the game but can't remember if i'm on ng+ or whatever already, how can I check?
>vit 50
>end 12
>strength 20
>skill 12
>bloodtinge 5
>arcane 50
>>180188871
>>180188942
Not him, but is it possible to have two people playing the same character at once?
>Have finished two new builds in the last couple weeks.
>Little motivation to play any more outside of the occasional spelunking fun, even that's getting less interesting.
I keep burning myself out on this game by playing too much too fast.
What's the most FUN build I can do? Gotta get that spark back into the game.
Guys, can you give me some names for my ayy lmao char?
>>180188976
Looks good already, Fight Club range is 80-120 while most people here are 98-117. Count your Mensis Cages to see what NG you're on. NG+ is triggered by submitting to Gehrman, refusing and killing him or MP depending if you took the cords.
>>180189075
why not Ayylmao
>>180189019
Yes but at least one person has to be Offline
>>180189075
Dasher One
>>180189160
where do I see mensis cages?
Also i'm currently using
>uncanny wheel + 10
>saw spear + 10 (but I have a lost saw spear +8 which I assume I wanted to use , idk)
>black sky eye
What gems are a must have for my items and what items should I have? Sorry if i'm asking dumb questions but i'm fully out of the loop
>>180189075
Also, planning it to be a 99arc is it a meme? Or actually good?
>>180189246
It has that name maybe a more meme creative what is am looking for
>>180189357
meme
>>180187706
I'm not that guy but my favorites are pure ARC (70), ARC/STR for wheel and HMLS, and BLT/STR for blt weapons and big guns. Most would probably agree that ARC/STR is a fucking awesome build
>>180189357
50 is all you need. 99 is way too much to have a reasonable amount of vit unless you don't care about your level. You can fit 70 into a BL98 - 117 build pretty reasonably.
>>180189350
If you didn't sell/discard them, check your inventory/storage. If you haven't killed Mico on that cycle yet then add another. Saw Spear should be converted to fire/bolt/arc with 2 Cold Abyssals and a fire/bolt/arc gem. Wheel should either have Flat Arcane gems for multi-hit abusing or Nourishings for general usage and revving. Setups and Glyphs for them are in the OP. You can use any Hunter Tools that isn't Madaras Whistle. That includes Accursed Brew, Augur and Executioner Gloves. A Call Beyond and Tiny Tonitrus won't do much with just 50 Arc but they're usable.
>>180188976
That's a pretty good build already actually, just put a few more in END and you're set
>>180185675
Good to know that force of nature is still slaughtering people in FCs
Orphan?
bbg77
>>180189762
thanks, should I dump points into end until I reach level 120?
>>180189675
yeah my inventory is pretty empty, yikes
I have a lost saw spear that's got fire damage already, should I level that to 10?
>>180190057
If you plan to pvp then try to stay close to 100. Maybe get END up to 15 or 18 and if you feel comfortable with it, stop there. Remember you can add runes to boost it further
>>180190057
no, 99% of people at here stay at within the 98-105 range
>>180189618
Tnx for your input anon
>>180190057
If you want to use SS sure, it's a great weapon. Your AR should be around 580-600, if it's much lower than that then you'll probably want better gems. Try the storage box in the Dream.
>>180189339
>>180190439
hmm I quite like being a wheel guy, I can see why I made this build ages ago but can't hurt to invest in my saw spear, lost is the one I wanna focus on right?
Also, if I go to new game ++ will chalices stay unlocked or do I have to do them all over again?
>>180190743
Lost for Fire/Bolt, Uncanny for Arcane. Chalices are unaffected by NG cycles so they'll stay the same.
>>180185432
Still wanta 31.5 radial at some point, but don't feel like farming again
>>180185852
How many runs did it take to get all these?
>>180185852
>>180190983
Any tips?
Also rune/eye/discovery setup?
>>180189675
sorry last question, gonna get drunk and farm all night (might stream it here if anyone cares) so does anyone have chalice codes where I can farm the undisputed best gems for the uncanny wheel?
>>180191883
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html?m=1
>>180191615
I had 330 discovery with the milkweed rune and all the eye runes. I did 900 runs over a weekend and I think I had between 12-14 out of shapes. I did 800 runs in y592byza and 100 in naapatbx. Naapatbx is about twice as fast but it's really frustrating when the watcher glitches into the terrain.
>>180192079
thanks pal, I appreciate it
>>180191615
Not them but Discovery doesn't affect OoS. Better to use something else, like Anti-Clock when you're running to the Watcher or something.
>>180192313
Discovery affects the rates of gems dropping rather than bullets and vials though
>>180192606
Yes, but not OoS gems. You'll get more Circles than Vials/Bullets with higher Discovery
>>180192606
Don't trash items drop in place of gems if your discovery is too high?
What's the most ridiculous and inconceivable gem you guys can think of?
>>180185582
>>180185675
Ok, so just two of the attacks in normal mode and all the attacks in tricked mode. Sounds like I need to grind a bunch of thrust adepts but that sounds like torture.
>>180193042
6 untricked attacks and all tricked. Adept farming is harsh but you'll get a bunch of 27.2% Temperings out of it.
>>180193004
32.6% Blt gems from Watchers. Fire/Bolt/Arcane gems are really rare from Pthum Watchers but I've never seen more than 2 32.6% Blt gems, which most likely come from Isz since I've only seen Triangles.
>>180192313
>>180192117
But doesn't eye enchance getting less drops such as bullets and vials and more gems?
Does anybody need help?
anyone spelunking or farming?
>>180192606
>>180192927
Any optimal value?
>>180185432
>>180194120
What are you looking to farm?
>>180194207
arcane, fire or bolt gems
>making an executioner build
>use hmls so i dont waste chunks before i can get an uncanny wheel
>dont want to stop using the hmls now
>>180189075
Fucko the Clown
>>180194108
yeah do you wanna drop me
6 sage hair
6 yellow bacbone
1 bastard of loran
1 red jelly
9 tomb mould 5
and 15 ritual blood 5
thanks
>>180194506
But anon, F**** the clown?
>>180194848
placed my sign down at the High Wall of Lothric
>>180185432
>>180195003
Truly next level.
>>180195003
nice shit anon
>>180194195
Not bad! Lots of abyssals, I like it.
>>180195003
>tricks weapon
>misses
>immediately dies
>Only doing 200 damage per hit on Ludwig second phase
I don't think I can do it. I just can't dodge correctly long enough for the 10 fucking minutes it's going to take me to widdle his health down.
>>180195464
What weapon are you using? Beast Blood Pellets help tremendously. If you have Lower Pthumeru open, try getting some 20% gems.
>>180195520
+7 Wheel
I hate Chalice Dungeons so I've only done the first one.
>>180195585
Some blunt gems would help, but they're hard to find so early. Put the best physical gems you have on it and use only the untricked form.
What do you think of the recent influx of twitch streamers invading the saturday fc?
>>180195585
STR/ARC build? Do you have a fire Saw Spear lying around?
>>180194848
cxsee9xf go though this FRC glyph anon, it's only 3 levels but there are a lot of items in it, plenty of tomb molds and ritual bloods of the (5) variety. Even some Yellow Backbones.
>>180194848
booting up my PC now
How do i properly use the beast embrace with the claws in pvp
>>180195715
Yeah 20 STR 40 ARC. And no I don't have a fire Saw Spear because that would require me to do chalice dungeons.
>>180195690
>recent
It's been happening for a while now.
>>180195829
If you've only done the first, you should at least have a fire radial.
There's also another fire gem guarded by a Brainsucker in the area below the Healing Church Workshop
>>180195829
so you are complaining about not doing any damage but refuse to get 2 gems that would at most take 20 minutes?
>>180158316
>Gwyndolin cosplay
What attire?
>>180195464
I did it with 120 damage a hit last week. Dodge left at almost all times, second phase included.
What does 'attack up vs open foes mean'?
>>180196029
I didn't say I wouldn't do it. He asked if I have a fire Saw Spear and I don't.
>>180196186
Counter-hit damage. You take more damage if you're hit in the middle of an attack animation. Not the same as instability damage.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how difficult are the Old Hunters DLC bosses?
I'm only asking because once I kill em I would have vanquished every single boss in every single soul serie, it'll be a very bittersweet ending to my journey so I'm prolonging it as long as possible.
>>180196183
You're probably much better at the game than me. I've like died 50-75 times by now and this isn't my first playthrough.
>>180196280
People almost always find at least one of them to be really hard.
For most people it's OOK/Ludwig. Some just can't into Laurence. I think there must be some strange fellow that cannot fight Maria well.Nobody cares about the failures.
>>180196245
>arc build without fire spear
>>180196280
I would say 9
>>180196369
I died a billion times too, just keep at it! I believe in you my friendo. It's easier said than done, but try not to panic dodge during phase 2. He delays a lot of his hits during that stage.
>>180196435
I thought the Wheel would suffice until I got the Holy Moonlight Sword. I mean it would if I wasn't so bad at the game.
>>180196435
>arc build with fire spear
Zzzz
>>180196392
I never thought Failures were that easy. Definitely the easiest DLC boss but they hit hard with melee and have really bloated HP. Easyish, but not brainlessly like Witches or BSB
>>180195690
Its fine, they are within the 80-120 meta. If you want to only fight 98s and anyone else triggers you, you're autistic.
>>180196162
White church garb and gold ardeo obviously.
You retarded nigga?
>>180196864
>>180195690
>>180195926
Who? Why?
>>180196547
>tfw when you dodge like a god until he's down to 10-20% and then you start choking, when it's almost over
How do you deal with choking? It's the most frustrating feeling ever.
>>180196517
>female character with the kirkhammer
>300 fatties killed
>finally OoS radial
>mfw it is warm damp
brb gonna kms
>>180196692
Why is BSB easy? (fire cheese aside)
early in the game i find that fight to be reasonably brutal no matter how many times i play through...aside from DLC bosses i find every main game boss to be pretty easy yet always find gascoigne and BSB to be intense (even if i get first try them most of the time now)
>>180197091
inb4 beyonce
>>180196954
The obvious way is try and work out WHY you choked, what move threw you off? In that pic, I thought I'd activated the second stagger but it turned out to just be a little "ow" animation. When I didn't get to riposte, I panicked and choked like a retard.
This happened again after. Then I learnt from my mistakes and chilled the fuck out when he was low.
>>180196954
Train your mind. Practice breathing and focus. Try meditating when you know you might be distracted and practice mentally drowning out those distractions, then work on implementing those mental skills while playing. It won't be quick or easy but if you arr deliberate and patient about it you will see results. Try yoga.
>>180196692
I thought Failures were hard before I learned you could use the flower tree to block the meteors. Those things used to fuck me every time.
>>180197091
When people tell you to walk left with BSB, they are being dead serious. It sounds like a joke, but pretty every single attack of his will miss if you walk to your left, he just straight up misses you. Then he's just a chore to whittle down, that's it.
>>180197091
Beasts in general have debilitating weaknesses to fire and serration, BSB is affected by Pungent Cocktails, and to top it off, literally his entire moveset in every phase can be dodged by strafing or dodging in and left.
>>180196957
>he doesn't like strong girls who can overpower you
>>180197324
>>180197330
Is it just me or was Chalice BSB a bit more aggressive and slightly more accurate?
>>180195715
8.3% fire crescent behind the brainsucker under the cathedral ward
>>180196957
So? The "form" part of that fashion guide is dumb. Small cute girls with giant anime weapons is great
>>180197464
>strong girls
>where every woman in bb is a fucking stick
>>180197530
I find it harder to get many hits in on Chalice BSB third phase, which makes me impatient, which makes me try to trade. Which is a bad idea.
>>180197572
No they aren't you weeb, go back to your mmos
Anybody wanna carry me through pthumeru so I can get the fire gems from hotdog?
First level first lamp, bbg, lvl 30 or some shit
>>180197667
They have big hearts with hot blood flowing through them fast.
>>180197723
BSB falils around and dashes around the arena so much. It's kind of annoying.
>>180197858
That makes no sense
>>180197572
It's silly looking.
>>180197986
They're human, and they're comin
>>180198048
It looks fine and is more interesting than chinless skeltal waifu with smol fast dagers #264
>>180191263
>>180191615
Around 1k runs with all Eye runes equipped. I got reasonably lucky though.
>>180197847
I'll come
>>180198146
W-what
>>180198048
Exactly
>>180197667
The dudes are sticks too though.
Like yeah you can use some fasion to sorta hide the sticc if you don't like it but there's no beef settings to actually make a character look like they could actually easily carry, much less effectively use, the kirkhammer, cannon, gatling gun, or any of that other stuff.
Though to be honest weapons like the hammer don't trigger muhrealism autism as much as the best cutter in tricked mode. Can you imagine the amount of strength and speed necessary to weild a weapon like that? You would need to be fucking super human
>>180198048
The only one really big enough to be silly is the Wheel, which frankly always looks silly
>>180197847
Still need help anon?
>>180198481
Yeah, i cant even kill scythe fag alone
Laurence, anyone?
pass is bbg
>>180198360
The guys' clothes make them look much larger while the women's clothes just make them look even skinnier.
i mean look at CHUNKY FUCKING MAN AND HIS ASS FUCKING CONE.
>>180198527
I'll never understand why they didn't put Watchers as the first boss
>>180198527
Im not finding anything. Pass is bbg right?
>>180197847
Keep the dungeon open after you finish.
>>180198662
It's time
>>180198831
>>180198662
C H U N C C
H
U
N
C
C
>>180198563
Still ringing?
>>180198831
Vilecucks got nothing on this manly lad
>>180198661
Layer 2, if theres a second guy coming
>tfw die so many times to loran chuncbeast that i no longer have the insight to summon the old hunter dude
>>180198953
Yeah
>>180198831
>>180199126
If you have a bludbuddy he can let you kill him with corruption a bunch of times for some quick insight
>>180199187
WE NEED MORE CHUNK
For me DS3 is like a project by some rookies that are huge Bloodborne fans. More than half of the enemy models are copies of Bloodborne, not to mention the attack animations and combat mechanics.
>>180199253
>if you have a bludbuddy
>>180193537
Wait, you've actually seen 32% BLT gems?
MY TRUE CONE
MY CHUNKY MOONLIGHT
>>180198172
Speaking of lucky, I just got the radial I needed. It took ~950 runs to get this full set.
>>180199696
Not him but I've seen screenshots too. Way before the save editor.
why is the logarius wheel so rewarding to use, is it because the low range/high damage combo rewards mastery over the nuances of combat?
>>180199604
I'd help but I'm at work :( sorry m8. If you're around later I can
>>180199885
It's a fucking wheel and you're using it to smash people. That's all you need.
>>180199370Lift off
>>180199852
Very nice, my Bludletter friendo. We gotta spelunk/fight together some time.
>>180199969
Thanks, i think the fucker will still be up cause i don't feel like fighting it rn
Glyph: pwmf22gu
pass: bbg144
Fogdoor not lamp.
If you want some watcher radials.
>>180199593
I was thinking basically the same thing recently, though i bought the DLC so i figure i'll have to suffer through 1 more playthrough
>>180200249
Cummin
>>180200249
omw
>>180199014
Looks like theres 3-4 people trying to co-op it, sorry if you arent getting in
>>180197847
If you need your second fire gem, I'm beckoning with the password "bbg" at the lamp of L3.
>>180199604
I can job to you if you still need it. I don't have the Loran chalice yet, but I can PVP in Nightmare Frontier and Byrgenwerth
>>180200086
What are you working on now? If you want, I've got mats for a spelunk or we could try to get an impromptu going
>>180199696
I've never gotten them myself but I found pic related and this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=byrHVYHlV6A
>>180200369
>>180200502
You guys ringing or what
>>180200924
Yea i am, for like 10 minutes or something already
>>180200681
I'm about to farm Watchers for a while. We can certainly do it some other time.
>>180200924
I'm ringing now, sorry for the wait.
>>180200553
Yup. On layer 2 now
>>180201018
>>180201135
There's a fog door preventing me from going to chamber of the seal so I know its connecting to someone but no one is showing up.
>>180201150
Did you remove the chalice from the altar?
5pwujscd is so comfy
>pretty Isz aesthetic
>wandering ayys for free echoes
>free rit blood 5 every time
>very very close lever
>brainsucker lever guardian is slow and won't chase you
*pwmf* 22gu~ is so annoying in comparison, is there an alternative?
>ywn violently fuck vileshitposter into a bloody orgasm haze
why even live, lads?
>>180201381
Pwmf has a free skittering nightmare tho.
Das nice.
>>180201553
What does it drop? I've never even checked, figured it'd be worse than anything I'd get from Watchers
>>180201656
It's a radial.
And its the same level as watchers though, usually, yeah, it's not gonna be a 27.2.
Still it ups the gem intake.
>>180201183
Are you ringing again?
>>180201750
But it's possible? Damn, that's definitely worth checking. Good tip
>>180201381
jihh5ng2 is a clone of pwmf22gu except instead of the fireball cunt there's a hemwick witch. May sound bad, but if you just run by they don't spawn in time to fuck with you. Just run by again and 99/100 times they won't do shit either.
>>180201796
Yes. I think my system just doesn't like you.
How's my new waifu look, lads.
Invaded two guys on nightmare frontier but ended up unlocking the shortcut because I remembered frenzy lamp is a bitch
>>180202023
Looks pretty badass honestly
> dieing to watchers twice in a row despite having backup.
Holy shit this is not a good day for me. Fuck a doodle doo.
>>180202023
Not even meme worthy. Try again.
What does Lumpy drop? Is he a better farm than Mensis droplets?
>>180202192
How is that a thing? Just parry them.
>>180202023
Kinda freaky and weird m8, honestly good job
>>180201990
Wouldn't be the first time
>>180201217
No, just put a new one down. I thought the bosses didn't respawn?
Also, still waiting on layer 3, nobodies connected yet
>>180202414
He ran the chalice alongside you so that you could get summoned for hotdog in his world and quickly get another gem
>>180202414
Oh, that's fine. I was saying that instead of re-running the entire chalice, you could just ring your Small Resonant Bell on L3, summon into my world, and kill the Watchdog again for the second gem.
Try that now. I'll ring my Beckoning Bell for you.
>>180202259
20.6% Physical Radials, slightly better but not Droplets. Can also drop Adepts, Charge Atk, etc that go higher. Lower Hintertomb flaming sage in the layer 1 pre-boss bonus room drops cursed Triangles. Anon who named Lumpy named the sage Lawrence iirc.
>>180202485
>>180202507
ic
im ringing now
>Dying to watchers
Looks like i've had enough for today
>>180202584
That's great seeing as Lower Pthu could be done way before Mensis. Where exactly is he? Thanks for the answers
Is it the mature male voice that gets the NYAAAAAAAAAUH roar?
>>180201898
its between 22.1 and 25.3, but its mostly on the lower end of that range
>>180203901
Pretty sure it's aged
>>180203901
I think it's the oldest one
>>180199187
>Chunkeroo
Every fucking time.
>>180203308
Layer 2 guarding the lever.
>>180203901
Yeah its mature
>BL 50 at Hunter's Nightmare
>die near the wheelchair house
>rush there
>can't find echoes
>kill everything from the lamp to Simon
>walk looking at the ground to find it
>reload area and kill everything again
>still no echoes
What now?
>>180204819
How much did you have that doing all that didn't get most of it back?
>>180204819
Maybe in the area right before the house? Check some of the ticks below it, too. Otherwise, try reloading the area again.
>>180205159
It was not much to begin with but it makes me angry
>>180204819
I had something similar happen in the Fishing Hamlet. After reloading once or twice, the echoes reappeared on a basic mob.
>>180205429
Yeah I feel you. Honestly not sure, I'm sure you have but did you kill EVERY enemy around that house? It couldn't have gone to the beast NPC, could it? Does the trap in the wheelchair itself count as an enemy that could take them?
>tfw you want to buy Tekken 7 but can't stop playing BB
>>180205561
Nioh and Breath of the Wild are the only things that have taken me away from BB. And even then, after a good few hundred hours of each, I'm right back on the Blood train with no plans of hitting the brakes.Except for DLC for those other two
man watchers are bein some serious fucking dickheads today.
>>180205779
I really want to get into Tekken, but damn I cannot pull myself away from this game. Especially now wince I've started cooping and spelunking with /bbg/
>>180205779
Breath of the Wild kept me away for a bit. I still haven't finished the game, only have one Divine Beast. I've spent some 100 hours exploring with 3 hearts and avoiding the story. I went in almost completely blind, but it's an amazing, comfy experience, and the exploration is neat.
Why does beastmode suck so much
>>180204819
I've noticed this happens sometimes, it's happened to me twice. Its especially weird since I've never heard of it happening in any dark souls game.
>>180205526
From beasts to bloodlickers, both NPC hunters and even the church guy near Laurence. The only ones I didn't were the dogs because they were way too far away and Simon.
I'm giving up, fuck you Miyazaki.
>>180205993
>Especially now wince I've started cooping and spelunking with /bbg/
Yeah this goes a really long way in extending the life of the game for me too, not to mention getting charcters ready for pvp
>>180206010
The flaws become more apparent the more hours you put in but the game never ceased to pleasantly surprise me, well past 200 hours even. I've never had so many "a-ha!" and "wow" moments in a single game. The first few hours spent on the Plateau is one of the best gaming experiences I've had.
>>180206014
Because it relies on Atk spam for mounting damage. Which relies on high endurance. If you're a 98 LOLEND memer then yeah, beasthood is gonna suck for you. Sorry but you did it to yourself
ok, nearing the end, ringing for hblb and the queen after, pass is chynn
>>180206574
booting up for SRRC
>>180206450
This is a level 98 build. Git gud.
Is it true that this general is becoming more active than /dsg/ ?
Why?
spelunking in an FRC Loran chalice pass is bbg111
>>180206960
coming!
>>180206874
/dsg/ talks about the games; /bbg/ is used as a party chat by retards
>>180206874
Probably not.
It might be that people are finally starting to realize that DaS3 sucks and are moving on, and that /bbg/ has had a relatively stable population for a while
> when the tripfag posts a pizzacutter webm in a reply chain about beastmode.
lmao this nigga.
I swear I have an excuse for that
>>180207290
>>180207290
Look at the WebM again. It has a BBP active the entire time.
>>180207441
Well falling on top of a madman is rather unfortunate
Do not reply to tripfags
Do not acknowledge tripfags
Ignore all tripfags
>>180206672
sorry my dude, i didnt see your post, segalt cucked you
>>180206450
I'm kinda new to the whole level meta thing so for now i'm stuck at lvl 100, i didin't want to lvl up already because i didin't know if it was too high
>>180207614
The meta of bbg is around 100 yeah
>>180207614
Post build
>>180205779
is it worth it to buy a nintendo switch for breath of the wild? it looks awesome!
OMG RLY?
A WEAPON THAT DOESNT SUCK ALREADY CONTINUES TO NOT SUCK WHEN A BBP IS APPLIED?
GOOD HEAVENS I WOULD NEVER HAVE GUESSED.
I SUPPOSE I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
LET ME CHECK.
[ ] TOLD
[x] Not rly told.
Oh dear..
2 chests? What
>>180207803
Can't you just use CEMU instead?
>>180207803
I got it for Wii U, mostly because there were no games for the Switch at the time, other than Xenoblade 2, that interested me. Planning to get one soon for Super Mario Odyssey and the new Metroid, though. I think it's definitely worth getting one at this point with all these games announced.
Then again, you can just CEMU easily and have it run even better. >>180207917
>>180207814
>what the
>unfilter
>it's the same shit again
>filter
Just filter the cancer, you're making it spread.
note to self: sages have hyper armour
>>180208162
Yeah those guys are really something else
Any notable loot on the pre-boss area?
>>180208259
a +65 fire attack waning but with -9 hp a second and some ritual blood
>>180207814
>conversation about beasthood
>HURR DURR IT NO AM WORK AT BLV98 KEK
>I post WebM of it working perfectly at Blv 98
>AUTISTIC SCREECHING, CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, etc.
You seem pretty booty bothered to me.
anyone want to help me clear byrgenwerth? rom isn't that bad, but yurie always slaps my shit
AAAAAA three amazing gems from this dungeon and they're all -9HP a second
>>180209582
Pass?
>>180209598
The abhorrent beast dropped me a waning that's almost identical to the bolt abyssal i use
It has like 1% lower of bolt up but has the same +bolt flat
And it's (18), not (20)
>>180209749
>>180209582
whoops, pass is bbg
>>180208931
I'm the guy who made the original post about beastmode and i meant the claws+ rune not beast pellets
Whoops shouldn't have charged in hah. First and last time i'm doing that
>double hemwick room
that's what I like to see
it is all thanks to Segalt
Lucifer is Segalt
>>180210667Thought he was Cranston
>>180210667
>Segalt is an AI program designed to respond to and assist anybody, as quickly as possible
>Lucifer is an AI program designed to shitpost and instigate anybody, as much as possible
makes sense desu. More sense than a man staying on the same two generals for 4+ years unironically trolling
Alright Faye, I have to go. Hope you got something good because I got nothing
>>180207803
Is a $300+ console worth one game? Well, I would say no. But with that said, I put 260+ hours into BotW on Switch and don't regret the purchase. Odyssey is looking awesome as well, and I actually really dig the handheld gimmick.
>>180211231
Got nothing here too. Thanks for hosting and better luck next time.
>>180210904
He's in /wfg/ as well.
>>180199604
>>180200181
Hey friendo, I'm home from work and provide insight or a summon soon if you still need it
whoa did not expect a berserk silverbeast as the boss
How much do people co-op or FC in /dsg/? Do they have their own co-op AI too?
>>180205779
The Witcher was the only game able to make me drop BB for a longer than one month period of time. But yeah, I eventually came back.
>>180211553
Those guys remind me a LOT of HPL's description of the beast in the cave from his very first published work.Just checked and it's actually titled Beast in the Cave, kek
>>180211427
Gonna go over there and shower him in (you)s. Hopefully he stays there.
>>180211821
How is that game? I know /v/ loves to stir up shitstorms between the Witcher and BB/Souls, but I'm genuinely curious. The combat doesn't look too great, but I've heard good things about the sidequests and characters.
>>180211821
I hadn't played the first two but I can't explain in words how utterly disappointing that game was. Every single part of the game was awesome and really made me want to play it except the character movement and especially the fucking atrocious, god-awful, Fable 1-tier combat. It's so insanely and baffingly bad I can't fathom how or why a company would release a game with combat in the state that it's in in W3 in this day and age. It's truly astounding.
>>180211542
Sorry some fags dragged me in coop on ds3, i'll see if i can get out soon
Which version of the Holy Moonlight Sword is optimal?
>>180212513
almost always normal
>>180212513
Lost because of nourishings.
whoops :^)
>>180211995
Witcher 3 is good. Play it. You won't regret it.
>>180213047
At least that madman was backstabbed so hard he clipped in another dimension
Any suggestions for this build? I also want to use the kirkhammer, amygdalan arm, and church pick
>>180212078
I never liked its combat either but I honestly have no idea how people get so upset at its combat. It isnt amazing but with the right setup and difficulty set on, its not bad at all. And monster fights are actually really fuckin fun to boot.
>>180211995
Its honestly one of my all time favorites. But it also pandered to my playstyles and desires PERFECTLY. The UI suits my tastes, along with the story, the execution of monster hunting, the characters, world, the customization, everything. It was just the perfect storm for me.
But if you play it, I reccomend learning about the universe first. Play witcher 2, read the books etc. You dont NEED to, but as someone who has done it both ways, its much more enriching when you know who everyone is from the get-go. But learning about them via the game is also fun, so whatever.
Oh. And play on max difficulty as I said before. It really forces you to play a fight out the way a witcher would rather than R1 spam and dodge spam, its a neat little way to play and imo is the true witcher experience.
>>180213332
As long as you get HAs on the Pick, should be good. Can't say I'd recommend the extra point in Blt for the Repeating Pistol, never liked it myself.
>>180213332
thats fine, literally the default quality build used here
>>180213432
The only thing that bothered me was the fact that quest EXP scales to your leveling
got me right on the blood bullet
>>180212408
No problem, I'll be around for a bit, and up pretty late
>>180212640
So a 50 Arc, 25 Str build would want Lost?
>>180213432
>its not bad at all
Nah, it's irredeemably horrible. Ass Creed 1 had more nuanced combat with better animations. That fucking ballerina twirl he does randomly? Are you kidding me? It's downright laughable. SUCH a shame because the characters are interesting and the world is beautiful
>>180213938
Hey, if you say so man.
I have 25 strength and 50 arcane and this holy moonlight blade hits like shit
>>180214214
its primarily a strength weapon
>>180213938
>Ass Creed 1 had more nuanced combat with better animations
I'll never understand why people make these asspull comments. "Nuanced combat" means nothing. AC had a singular parry animation, and literal cutscenes for executions. AC3 easily had the best combat in the series.
>>180214384
> playing any asscreed past brotherhood.
Nah
Uh i was passive because i wanted to let you fight, but then i went to the other room and got killed?
I should make a webm
>>180213831
Yes, if you're ready to farm amy for 21.something% triangle and waning gems.
>>180214713
I hit the invader and the damage registered 24 seconds later, I had no intention of fighting that
>>180214384
>"Nuanced combat" means nothing.
It makes sense how someone who enjoys W3 combat would think this
new thread for you cutiepatooties :3
>>180214403
>>180214403
>>180214403memes?
>>180214769
Sorry, next time i will be more aggressive
>>180196162
>>180196897
>Gold Ardeo
Nah, White Church Set and Blindfold Cap.
Gold Ardeo not only looks silly, but it doesn't look right.
>>180213810
Oh nevermind, just realized that i got some insight by killing Gehrman before cooping
>72 hours in
>had no idea the bath messenger sold npc armor
wew
>>180214805
I'm not the Witcher guy. I've never even played Witcher.
But please, do tell how AC has 'nuanced' combat. Can you see the fear in the enemies eyes as you kill them? Can you see Altair's hands tremble at every sword stroke? Surely not. Instead you must be claiming that the gameplay is where the 'nuance' lies.
Can you foresee the enemies attacks? Can you predict which way they'll swing by arm movement? Of course not, every attack is parriable by a single button.
Possibly you mean that the combat might actually be more in-depth than 'press parry to win.' But again, its not.
So please, tell me how its nuanced.
tl;dr, youre a fuckin retard
>>180199593
For me your post looks like it was written by an obnoxious dickhead who doesn't understand the situation Fromsoft is in with Dark Souls 3.
With Dark Souls 3 Fromsoft had to deal with the problem of having to create a Dark Souls sequel that retained the core mechanics of Souls (such as traditional castic, shields/defense and large variety of generic weapons) but at the same time for the veterans, many of whom had played Bloodborne, the DS1 style slow lumbering bosses would no longer be satisfactory, and given Dark Souls 2's poor reception From knew they had to distance themselves away from that and embrace the faster playstyle of DeS and BB while fitting it within the Dark Souls mechanics everyone expected.
Personally I think for the most part they managed to fit a lot of the good ingredients of DeS / DaS 1 and 2 and BB together in a reasonable manner and provide a great closure for the series. Mind you, due to it's very derivative nature DaS3 was fighting an uphill battle against original products like DeS/DaS/BB but it still manages to be a very good game in it's own right.
And it's laughable to chastise DS3 for asset reuse when literally every game in the series recycled shit from DeS. I guess DS1 is a shit ripoff of DeS and BB is a shit ripoff of DaS1's PTDE huh?