/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

MHW for Switch when?

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>>179999123

MHW is gonna be fun!

>>179999280
>30 fps

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MHO update on the 27th will have:

>molten tigrex
>black gravios
>uragaan
>gold rathian
>nargacuga
>berukyurosu
>abiorugu
>forest and hills
>bushido style (not too sure about the brave style thing)
>weapon tree branching
>new skills

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>Tfw can only have decent discussions at night when all the children have gone to bed

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>tfw dumb enough for MHO

>>179999382
>molten tigrex

That's kind of surprising. And Bushido? 14 weapons when?

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>>179999280

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>>179999419
Yes. Bushido style is adept style.

>>179999382
>Abiorugu
>opens up giant kennel labled MHW

Come on, now. You're so close!

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>>179999527
I know that, baka.

>>179999479
GoldFags need to be gassed
Worst metal

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I will dethrone the king again, in HD!
I will make Baraq great again!

>>179999453
>solid Frontier monsters like Hypnoc and Lavasioth

You mean Yawn KutKu and Fire Plesioth?


>>179999479
>job-amesh

Not gonna lie though if I didn't already have a Piss4r that's probably the one I'd get just for its sheer gaudiness.

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>>179999382
>>179999527
Huh I think it's not actually the same molten tigrex from mainline. It's probably just some kind of lava tigrex just flame blangonga.

>14 weapons
>GS
>LS
>SnS
>DS
>Lance
>GL
>Hammer
>HH
>SA
>CB
>LBG
>HBG
>Bow
>Insect Glaive
So did they cut medium bowguns?

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>>179999587
>world adds Abiorugu
>starts hunting the first one you find
>another, much karger one shows up
>both battle for dominance
>your target is now the stronger, more terrifying Abiorugu.

>>179999867
That makes a lot more sense.

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>they confirmed the pc version is not coming soon

>>180000036
I will wait as long as I have to. Not dropping $500 for 30 fps.

>>179999869
Yes, I think they made a press release about that and inform everybody except you, 8 years ago.

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>>179999820
Good luck little bird

>>179999869
>>180000103

As a newfag, I can't believe this isn't a meme: http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Medium_Bowgun

>>180000103
Sorry if i skipped all the nintendo titles

>>180000036
damn looks like im not buying it then
>delayed PC version
>no MHXX for the west
thats two sales theyve lost

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>>179999820
Steve is honestly a much better fight than any of the Raths.
>That one-two air swipe
>Has a status effect that's unique to him
>Doesn't wind press and then fireball your face
>Doesn't teleport across the stage to poison claw swipe you

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Can't wait for the mh official tier list to be canon. We all know that diablos is the true king of the desert.

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>>179999869
>No tonfa
I'm still mad

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>People complaining about monsters completely ignoring hunters to fight another monster

>What is animal instinct (Bigger = More threatening)
>What is displaying dominance

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>>180000427
In the leak, Vulture-kun literally stops midair the moment him and Rathalos' AIs get too close so Rathalos can do that trailer move on him.

>>180000410
I'm more disappointed there's no new weapons.

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>>180000329
Can't wait for HD Diablos!

>>180000427
>fighting deviljho
>konchu displays dominance and cucks up your shit

CAPCOM PLEASE

>>180000427
But what if the other monster is as small as your target monster?
Would it be just competing for food then?

>>179999857
Well, yeah, if you want to generalize them that much. But they were still fun monsters. Unique designs and plesioth's species was in dire need of a new member at the time. Also
>Hypnocatrice theme

>>180000610
actualy, you you look carfuly, there is a vespoind in the way, the vespoid's hitbox stoped a damn t rex mid air

>>180000890
vespoid displaying dominance

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>>180000427
>jagras attempts to attack Anjanth
>they both fight
>hunter expects free hits like from leak
>Anjanath crushes Jagras, and starts swinging his limp body around in his jaws like a bludgeon to pulvarize the hunter.

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>tfw projared said flexing was dumb

>>180001251
Are you the new "monster hunter vita" guy?

>>179999408
>>179999416
where do you get these qt mons
>>180001503
>tfw no more "tfw no monster hunter on vita" guy

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Reminder that MHW will be the mainline messiah that saves us from Ichinose anime fuckery

>>180001251
>said that drinking slows you to a crawl
what other lies has this man polluted our minds with

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>>180001723
Make Charge Blade anime again.

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>>180001503
someone gotta field the void now he is dead

I honestly feel Monster Hunter World is going to be Tri 2.0. Just a bunch of weird features and design choices. Then the next game, World's p3rd, will be on handhelds taking out a lot of the features that didn't work while having more content with a few weird features of its own. Then World Ultimate will be the "complete" version where everything's ironed out and it's on both console and handheld.

Afterwards, we can look forward to 6th gen just being 5th gen with a gimmick of weapon/armor durability during hunts to simulate 'realism'

>>180001851
>I honestly feel Monster Hunter World is going to be Tri 2.0

I'd honestly been praying for 5 to once again be willing to throw tradition out instead of a huge nostalgia grind.

>>180001824
Y-....you know what? Good point.

>>180001851
Why can't they just casualize SpeedEating instead?
Better distribution, lower skillpoint threshold for the +2 effect, etc.
Heck, they can make it the default skill of the Expedition Scout set.

Sure it keeps the flexing but I'd rather have super sped-up flexing instead of ditching it completely. Who knows if the west might end up liking it instead of assuming it's too comical?

>>180002292
How big are Dalamadur's dicks?

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>>180001503
>>180001824
>>180002012
>tfw no Monster Hunter World on Switch

>>180001937
>>180001851
MHW is kinda experimental, what will come after will obviously better
if it flop, capcom will probably change their mind and decide to do a new opus called MH5 this time with nintendo, that scenario would be tri 2.0

>>180002129
Arenas are smaller, monsters are faster, monster can gank you, I think a heal on the move is fine but sprinting while healing should drain 3x more stam.

>>180002481
>I think a heal on the move is fine
heresy
>but sprinting while healing should drain 3x more stam
200% heresy

>>180001851
>weapon durability
So, a sharpness overhaul?
>armor durabiility
Lol

>>180002670
i fucked up, meant for >>180002494

>>180001251
>tfw I got into monhan thanks to that guy

keep
monster v monster interactions

I wonder if any large monsters have cooperative relationships or if its only competition

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Honestly, what the fuck is his problem?

>>179998594

Ok, let's keep the ball going and hope this general survives long enough.

>>180002704
Weapons steadily lose durability over hunts until they break, and which they can only be repaired by using monster parts to reinforce them again. Bouncing makes weapon's lose durability go away faster to make up for the fact damage isn't lost when hitting a bouncing part.

Armor sections can break during combat (negating whatever protection it gave you) if you get hit to much and has an overall durability like weapons where it must eventually be repaired.

>>180002976
I wonder how will MHW handle Bullfangos this time with the increased emphasis in monster interactions.

>No new portable game
>PC version of World delayed
They literally want me to pirate their shit

>>180003158
And after 6 consecutive portable games too

>>180003132
Will it even have them? My biggest fear right now is the fact that they need to make all new assets for all monsters, and being unable to copypaste Capcom is going to give us the smallest roster since Gen 1.

portable fifth on the switch!

I feel like i should be hype but capcom pr team is handeling everything in the worst possible way

>>180003121
>shitters finish every hunt completely naked
>can't afford new gear because they spend everything on repairs
>no effect on good players

>>180003158
They are delaying because of piracy threats. They don't want anyone who isn't financially invested in the game to talk about it.

>>180003284
japan only!
please enjoy world first

>>180003217
I really don't even care if they get the XX team to make some MHP game thats just 4U's gameplay minus mounting in a new setting.
>>180003292
They've had some of the worst PR at E3 as a whole with MHW and MvCI

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>>180003284
*blocks ur path*

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>>180002976
>it's a "bullfango survives two nukes, the black plague, world war 2, 3 and the heat death of the universe" episode

>>180003132
>finally found the bullfango
>rahian pops out
>bullfy sprints out to the other corner of the fucking map

>>180003395
Thats just a clip on for a phone.

>>180003373
>MH Portable
Why is this meme catching on? Nobody in the past 6 years would admit that the 3DS games are carrying the "Portable" spirit, especially for MHX, and suddenly that's all these people are talking about.

>>180003395
does anyone think sony is going to get back in the handheld game after Vita

>>180000302
>doesn't teleport across the stage to poison swipe you

Granted, but it's not like his flight and aerial attack animations stand up well to scrutiny either. Trying to make sense of some of his animations and especially his landings makes me convinced he was programmed by the same inbred hacks that did Skyrim's dragons.

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>>180003505
Nope try again

>>180003593
It's already being made according to Sony job advertisements for manufacturing a new game console.

>>180002976
>Giant intimidating monster with earth-shaking roar appears
>Decide to charge the guy fighting it
Fuck these guys

>>180003593
No, the patent was just related to mobile.
Sony's higher ups nearly killed each other over the Vita I doubt Kaz could survive another PSP style incident.

>>180003552
>Nobody in the past 6 years would admit that the 3DS games are carrying the "Portable" spirit

im not sure what you mean?
monster hunter success has thrived on portables for 12 years now, that's why people want another portable MH game

has the "Portable" spirit changed with the 3DS games?

>>180003795
People were always clamoring that the 3DS games are the "main" games, especially because of Fujioka. And then they claimed that MHX is an "anniversary game" instead of Portable 4th.

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>>180003398
I had a bullfango survive three enraged stygian claw slams then charge through his fucking legs and straight into me yesterday. I can't even begin to describe how mad I was.

>>180003767
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/56325/sony-patents-new-playstation-vita-handheld/index.html

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>>180003882
but 3u and 4u are mainline games

>>180003978
>But Nintendo's victory might be short-lived: Sony apparently is working on a Vita successor.
This is the funniest part of this article
It makes me think that it was written by that IGN guy who loved the Vita and called people who hated ME3 entitled.

>>180003882
3U, 4 and 4U ARE the main games

capcom calls MHX an anniversary game and that's the only one debatable on whether or not its a main game

So how is world going to do the end all quest where you fight multiple monsters in one go when monster's fight each other now?

>>180002439
>monster is long enough to do 1/4 mile drag races on
>how big is its dick

Gonna hazard a conservative guess of "very."


>>180002976
It's a colossal faggot with no redeeming features. If you were a Bullfango you'd probably be pretty pissed off all the time too.

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Got it from /v/

>>180004040
And they also claim that MHX is part of that grouping. But now with MHW's announcement, suddenly people are aware of this "portable" and started grouping MHX into that grouping. I guess you just need to be there to understand it. Acting all high and mighty about "main" games before, but now having to resort to begging for the "portable" scraps. They're all the same shit and a continuation of each other. Like MHW having a lot of MHX's contents.

>>180004189
Well now you backtrack. It may not be you, but it was the general consensus back then.

>>180004478
Monsters have their turf. Dont lure them to each other.

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>>180004501
>Lioleos
>Liolea

that sounds way cooler than rathalos and rathian.,....,,,,,,

>>180004721
Reus is a cute name for a wyvern son tho

>>180004657
>gangs in monster hunter now
Truely is a westernized monhun.

>3 days until public gameplay

Hope they show a normal hunt with a different monster and just don't rehash that shitty presentation for gaming """journalists"""

>>180004942
>Reus
Everybody knows Asukus is the patrician choice, paesant

>>180003593

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-06-sony-downplays-dream-of-playstation-vita-successor

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>>180000862
frontier has better monsters to offer than paria and beru, surely.

actual unique monsters with unique concepts like taikun zamuza. fuck i hope we get some frontier crossover in worlds. taikun ecology would be god-tier.

>>180004559
I don't think the issue is whether or not MHX is a main game
people are saying they want a localization of XX on switch because

a) we haven't gotten any localization version of XX at all,
b) switch would be the continuation of the series on a portable system when it has seen great success on portable systems for a long time
c) before the clarification of no MHXX localization "at this time", many people took it to be that we would ONLY be getting a MH game on consoles

I just want the G-rank to complete the game I've been playing and I want to be able to play it on a portable because I like portables, if there wasn't so much uncertainty and miscommunication on whether or not those things are gonna happen, way more people would be able to be positive about MHW i guarantee you

>waaah this random eceleb can't stop whining that the old games were better what a fucking jaded grandpa
>waah this random eceleb can't stop praising the new game what a goddamn shill the game is ruined
Like pottery

>>180005521
Yes it was. And all this clamor about Portable 5th is really annoying. This is my old copypasta

>2014, after MH4G announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there cannot be another game in a gen after a G game!
>2015, after MHX announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there can only be 3 games in a gen; one main game, one G game and a spinoff!
>2016, after 2016 MH sales target reveal
>next game will definitely be MHXG, it's only going to sell 2 million! That's too low for MH5 on 3DS!

I think I'll add to this

>2016, after Switch is revealed
>next game will definitely be MH5 on Switch! The 2 million sales target fits Nintendo's sales target!
>2016, after MHXX is revealed
>next game will definitely be MH5 on Switch! We always knew MHXX was coming! It's the most obvious thing ever!
>2017, after MHXX HD is revealed
>haha suck that, Switch will definitely have MH5 next! MHXX Switch is just to build installbase!
>2017, after MHW is revealed
>wtf I don't want MH5, I wanted MHXX! Portable 5th when?

>>180005521
It does seem like a localized switch version of XX will come eventually, seeing as they stepped in to shoot down that Gamespot article that there will be no localized version of XX and the fact that devs love to use this miscommunication and nonspeak before announcing something, it's just this awful timing.

They knew they probably weren't going to announce a localisation of switch XX until the jap version came out and yet they massively fucked up with e3's timing. To any normal person, this would look like they've completely abandoned the switch for other consoles since it's retarded not to say anything at the E3 right after its release. That's what's generating all this bad press, plus MvCI. They should have just kept their mouths shut at E3 and waited to announce the localisation and worlds together. That way it wouldn't have caused this massive split and uncertainty.

>>180005948
>le "im not picking sides everyone is equally bad"

fuck off neo-nu-/mhg/

>>179999280
>Playing Monster Hunter 5: Worlds in 720p and silky smooth 15 fps
>Not playing MH5 in 4k hard 60 fps and without any paying for playing online
KEK

PC masterrace always wins, baby

So because of reasons I've restarted 3U and I don't remember something.
What is the fasted upgrade tree for sharpness on a hammer? I stuck with GS back then, so I'm trying hammer now and I don't remember which one in the trees on the wiki are obtainable sooner.

Why is /v/ still here?

>>180000648
DLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfLGXMAG7A

!!!!

>>180006615
>shillhunter

>>180006296
>I think purely in sides

fuck off retard

>>180006591
just to make /mhg/ suffer

>>180006615
>watching that channel after he stopped being text-only

>>180006615

ah yes, I totally want to hear the super honest opinions of a man who went to a CAPCOM stream in E3.

>>180006296
Shouldn't you be busy praising "Kek"?

>>180005330
I made a video way back when, and I remember stating how I loved taikun, but couldn't stand it's final form change because it made no sense... unless

>taikun is actually the small brue crab that ate out the insides of another large orange Carapaceon and wears it like a suit.

....shit that sounds awesome now that I'm actually typing it.

>>180006195
the people who aren't super excited about MHW just want MHXX, its got fuck all to do with the concept of "what is MH5" or what is a main game

the fact that MHW is a new project that NOBODY was even aware of until less than a week ago is being given to us currently ahead of the second half to a game that has already existed and was ALREADY ANTICIPATED bothers people

the closest hypothetical situation I can come up with is if MH4U was released in Japan and then rather than announcing 4U for the west, Capcom said you're going to get this brand new first reveal game called MH Stories next year
instead of this game you've already been watching and waiting for
and that when we asked if we were getting 4U they just said no

>>180005330
It's a real shame the fanbase went berserk and even sent death threats to Capcom about Frontier monsters "polluting" the main games. I wouldn't mind more monsters bring borrowed and reworked by the main team to fit.

>>180007173
You forgot in your hypothetical situation that MH4 is released first in the west before MH4U is announced but not being brought to the west. That is more relatable, since MH Gen was released less than a year ago.,

>>180007234
based japs

>>180007423
Enjoy your boogersaur and voreguana then

>>180007234
I want to see Anorupatisu in the main series. He's really underrated.

>>180006615
>monsters act in much more complex ways than we've ever seen before
>goes on to list such amazing examples as giving some food to smaller monsters
>then we got to this one scene, man it was really chaotic
>you had, like, the monster, then the other monster, then the hunter
>there's more complicated hitboxes, and how damage is understood, so that's why I'm keeping damage numbers on
>you hit 80 on one part of a tail and 60 on another part!
Jesus, is dev/PR speak contagious? He says this big broad sweeping statement (it's MUCH more complicated, this is done SO much better, this scene was SO fun) but then goes on to say nothing but disappointments or barely gives coherent examples. That's exactly what devs and PR managers do, too, it's weird

Your reminder that World is stripping out nearly all elements of timing (Items on the run, aiming GS Charges after starting the charge) to appeal to all of the plebian casuals that couldn't figure out basic attack windows.

And you all thought Je Suis Monte was bad.

>>180006615
>Wifepuncher

>>180007343
That's fairly irrelevant since as we're seeing, there are people that wanted XX in spite of Gen's release

What are you even trying to prove? That people who wanted XX back when it was released and were ecstatic for a Switch version are hypocrites? Do you think /mhg/ is one person too?

>>180007736
It's almost like he won't get a check from Capcom if he doesn't use the script they have him.

>Gaijin "I can't do math and get MVs wrong everytime" is playing with numbers on

What a surprise!

>>180007767
At this point I've just accepted it, since it's not going to deter people who want world. They don't care about authentic MH. Neither do a lot of people clamoring for XX but at least that's closer to MH than this garbage.

Well, I'll pirate World anyway and any future MH games if they keep making games more suited for casuals, since World does look fun and MH is rarely a bad game. But it is disconcerting.

>>180007986
Yes. Especially the ones who actually bought MH Gen while quoting MH4U's "they only release complete games in the West, therefore MH Gen won't have G rank!".

>>180007173
Nobody wants XX except clueless idiots and manchildren with brand loyalty, everyone already played it with CFW to bypass the region lock and it is the consensus that it sucks.

>>180008305
welp at least we managed to have some non-shitposty ad hominem discussion before you showed up

>>180007665
Him AND pokaradon would make excellent new arctic monsters!

>>180006534
https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/642342-monster-hunter-3-ultimate/faqs/66687

I want to say the War Hammer (pelagicite access, Flooded forest iirc) or Plume Hammer (Peeko) but it's been a while.

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Hail to the king's butt

>>180008304
Oh, I'm sorry, didn't realize you were omniscient and knew every single idiot who thought Gen was a full game (despite Tri's existence) all made up the crowd that wanted XX. My bad, my bad.

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It's so weird seeing people spouting all this "ahh MHW is going for the dark souls audience eeewwww" when the Dark Souls community was saying the exact same stuff every time the next game was announced
>ugh they're making the game casual!
>What? They're making these obtuse mechanics more easily understood? Now my extensive knowledge of fan wikis doesn't give me an edge in PvP!
etc

I guess all video game fanbases really are the same. Consider yourselves blacklisted.

>>180008637
>grapple hooks behind you

>>180008749
>not chibi

XX and World are both shit.

If you fags were smart like me, you'd just continue playing Freedom Unite for the rest of your life.

Should i play ls or sns ?

>>180008837
Freedom Unite is shit.

If you fags were as smart as me, you'd be playing Dauntless with your 'going into games' machine.

>>180008749
>I guess all video game fanbases really are the same
or maybe videogames are being increasingly casualized in an attempt to reach broader audiences? naah

>>180008496
I'm sorry for stating facts, I guess? Try looking at the archive for /mhg/ threads before E3 if you doubt it.

>>180008703
Yes that was the general consensus. See >>180006195

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>>180008837
you're right, grandpa. enjoy your retirement ho- i mean freedom unite!

>>180008749
Why do you keep such garbage art from such an awful person alive by reposting

Fuck you

>>180008749
>2 fanbases are worried the games in their franchise are becoming too diluted and too dumbed down for others while kicking the root audience in the teeth
>WOOOW all fanbases must be the same!
On a side note, I'd fuck that Shaggy.

grandpa gets naked before every hunt and never brings any items
wtf??

>>180008637
I want to hail Pinkan's butt.

>>180008947
Having been a passionate gamer for over 20 years, this fact truly makes me want to kms

>>180008837
As someone who played the fuck out of F2 and FU, how coyld you possibly hate World? It's basically MHFU with more mechanics and world exploration.

>>180007234
Aubergine to main line when.

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>>180009654
>Monster is chasing after me
>Lure him to Aubergine's nest
>Get monster to wake up Aubergine
>Aubergine goes into murderkill mode and start blasting the pursuing onster with poisonous fireballs.

>>180009862
>still no espinas for mho
>still 10 years overdue for mainline

>>180002987
I'm available for an undeterminate amount of time right now, otherwise tomorrow most likely all day

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I can enderstand why people doesn't like style/arts bullshit, i don't like it myself
but i don't enderstand why the jet dragon is getting so much hate, after all, khezu is vomiting electric balls, gravios have his melting lazer of doom, rajang have his death ray

>>180009324
Because it's not going to be like MHFU at all.

It's going to be hyper casualized dudebro garbage.

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>>180009862
Is that Poison Ivy: The Wyvern?
>>180009173
Just lay him down in the basecamp bed, and remind him to take his pills. He'll manage.
>>180009097
Is there some kind of story behind that image?

I don't understand the hate MHW is getting here. I'll admit, I'm a shameless Tribabby, but this game makes me excited beyond belief. I'll probably be called a causal brohunter or whatever for this, but I have a 50 hour work week and a life outside of that. As such, the annoying parts of Monster Hunter are even more annoying to me now compared to in 2010 when I had infinite time to go whatever pace I wanted.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY I WANT MONSTER HUNTER TO BE EASY. I love the difficulty of Monster Hunter, if it wasn't challenging it would instantly become a 4/10 series to me. BUT so much of the stuff y'all are posting about has NOTHING to do with difficulty and everything to do with "quality of life", even though apparently people here think that's just a meme.

So what parts of the game make it less difficult and more casual?
>no flexing
I am legitimately upset about this as well. But if the excuse that has been given (faster gameplay) is true, then I'm all for it. But otherwise it makes you focus on timing, which is amazing once you get it down.
>changing weapons mid-battle
Don't use it. Also, this doesn't actually make the game easier. The game doesn't give you any weapons except for standard starter ones, so whatever weapon you switch to will be one of those or one you earned.
>faster gathering
How. Literally how does this make the game easier? Gathering missions become trivialized? If anyone seriously thinks that's an issue, then get the fuck out. I'm here for the core combat loop as is everyone else. I've never once died from gathering being too slow, because gathering with monsters are in the area is retarded. Oh but fuck me cuz it'll make egg quests easier. I guess I'm wrong about everything.

>>180010043
hating x/xx makes you look cool

>call in hunters if the monster is too hard
Don't use it. Some people don't even touch singleplayer in these games. I usually try to go through the singleplayer missions before going online, but there's nothing that can replace my first time in multiplayer. Y'all shitpost about it but MH has a great online community. 99% of hunters were friendly and helpful, I remember in Tri having hour long conversations with people just in the chat. If you have hangups about the "right way to play" MH then they are in your head. Trying to force them on other people is autistic and retarded. Play how you want to, this mechanic won't stop you.
>paintballs being replaced by bugs
Before the monsters were in scripted areas. Now you have to, you know, actually hunt the monster. What a tragedy.
>damage numbers
toggle them off. It's not like y'all aren't aware of those numbers anyway, you just look them up on the wikia. This is just a replacement for that so you can toggle it on to compare your weapons and toggle it off for the other 99% of the game.
>dark souls
They're both good games. Fight me.
>console wars
get a job and you can buy whatever system it's on, or all of them. I might get all the versions of the game just because I want Monster Hunter to succeed.
>HD graphics
because upgrading graphics automatically means the game will be worse. But watch out, we wouldn't be one of those people who think upgrading graphics automatically makes the game better! I can't wait to have a Monster Hunter I can show my friends without feeling like a complete embarrassment because I'm playing an obscure 240p Japanese game.
>newfags!
popular =/= bad, go back to /mu/

I hope I'm being autistic and this shitposting is mostly just that. But this is the worst I've seen in a long time, and most of it is frankly baffling and backwards.


TL;DR
If you want the game to always be the same then you've obviously transcended the need for a new release.

/blog

>>180010175
Once you understand that MH is always and has always been about console wars, everything makes sense.

>>180009994
>>180002987
use steam chat or discord

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>>180010043
What I don't get is why no one is making a fuss over MHW apparently incorporating arts and art-like moves into the regular movesets. It's the same kind of over the top anime stupidity, just with less particle effects.

I wasn't especially against them in the first place and my only real concern is whether or not they're going to be much more spammable, but I just don't get why it's apparently okay if MHW does it.

>>180010043
Using concentrated dragon element to create plasma is ridiculous. It simply cannot be done.

>>180010945
not him, but you don't know what dragon is or it's properties

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>>180009176

>>180010945
There have been a ton of dumb fucking posts over the last couple days, this has got to be #1. Congratulations.

Any word on the monster roster? I just want Kirin in

>>180011007
Im actually fine with Valfalk because it is fun to fight and that matters more than design to me personally.

>>180010876
You mean stuff like the LS jump? I'm okay with moves like that as long as they're part of the normal moveset and are balanced in some way.
Part of the appeal in Monster Hunter is how your weapon's moves don't change, your hunter doesn't learn new moves, and starting over with a bone weapon feels the same as the endgame ones. Styles and arts go against that, making weapons behave differently in different hunts, and that's what I personally disliked about them, not really their anime style.
Since the new moves in MHW seem to be part of the weapons' standard movesets, I won't be bothered too much by them

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>>180010945
>simply cannot be done
>being hit with a fireball and not immediately burning to crisp or boiling alive inside your armor
>surviving multiple jolts of electricity with no damage to nervous system
>dragons
>lightning monkeys

I'm happy that nibelsnarf will be removed!

>>180011240
That's really dumb anon

I love the Gobul!

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>>180010876
I take stuff like that on a case by case basis, so while I don't mind the new Bow exploding arrow thing (because explosive arrowheads are a thing that can reasonably exist in the hunter-verse) the new LS move feels silly to me because you just jump waaaaaaaay too high than can be reasonably expected from a humanoid.

>>180010175
>>faster gathering
There are no gathering animations at all.

You just run around mashing circle and take everything and cover the screen with popups.

Gathering taking time was important because it felt like you were actually doing something but now its just like any other game where you pick up everything without thinking about it.

Got a gen room up for anyone who wants to play. Not super high HR but I'll hunt anything

>>180011872
>Gathering taking time was important because it felt like you were actually doing something

Yeah, I was getting materials to upgrade my farm so I didn't have to waste my time gathering.

>>180011240
>Styles and arts go against that, making weapons behave differently in different hunts

Then pick a style and run with it? It seems like styles were intended to be simply options for a playstyle of personal preference, but the autistic playerbase started arbitrarily deciding which ones were "best"

That said, striker was stupid and adept was the exact opposite of what it was implied to be, and I wasn't a fan of having three largely unnecessary tiers to every attack art.

>>180011872
t. Yasunori "50 gathering quests" Ichinose

>>180011595
This is exactly how I feel, right on anon
*falls down a fucking mountain with no fall damage holding a sword made from a dinosaur that probably weighs twice as much as me*
Shit's just fucking silly I tell ya.

What Monster Hunter has always really needed is annoying American voice acting.

>>180011872
>There are no gathering animations at all.
Lol yes, there are. You can see the hunter physically gathering shit. You mean there's no pause.

Gathering is mostly early game shit anyway. You're thinking about gathering when you have 8 pages of mats clogging up your item box? Please.

>>180011595
Hunters already do tons of shit that you couldn't reasonably expect from a humanoid.

>>180011240
>Part of the appeal in Monster Hunter is how your weapon's moves don't change, your hunter doesn't learn new moves, and starting over with a bone weapon feels the same as the endgame ones.

They dont have to change if you use Guild either.

>Styles and arts go against that, making weapons behave differently in different hunts, and that's what I personally disliked about them, not really their anime style.

You can customize your styles freely if you find a benefit of a certain one to be worth any associated tradeoff it brings for a specific encounter. I really dont understand your complaint here. The only issue is that some are exceptionally strong, like Brave LS/HBG compared to other ones, but that's a balancing matter more than Styles providing options on weapon usage.

>>180012285
What MonHun needed was AUGHT instead
And if we're stretching our voice acting standards, then we could have RATHALOS IS DEIFIED

>>180012154
It's what I did, I still don't like the idea.

>>180012258
>>180012386
I guess it's just conditioning from different kinds of media, especially other video games.
I play plenty of games that don't have fall damage, but not many where I jab a sword into an enemy and then (somehow?) get catapulted 50 feet into the air.
I guess that's the ultimate thing for me with the LS attack, I just can't parse in my head how those two things even go together at all.

>>180012504
I've gained nyaaledge of the tigrex meowster!

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Have you worshipped your goddess today?

>>180008887
neither

>>180011570
We all have our own kind of autism. I also fucking hate Absolute Evasion/Readiness if that helps

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>>180013191

>>180011872
Gathering is a massive waste of time. I'd rather "feel like I'm doing something" killing monsters than watching my character paw around under a beehive four countless hours.

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I don't want MHW to be as good as it seems to be because I don't want to buy a PS4 Pro (only have a normal) or pay for PS+ and my PC only has a 770gtx which probably won't be enough...

>>180013191
I have her song paying in my tavern. That counts.

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>MHW will have a "collect five unique mushrooms" beginner quest AGAIN
Fuck you Marm for jinxing it.

>>180010043
it's unrealistic

>>180013703
egg quests could be a lot more intense now

>>180013489
>I don't want MHW to be as good as it seems to be
that's just dumb
>my PC only has a 770gtx
that might be enough, it just will not be on max settings

>>180010945
How can people not tell that this is a joke? Is the MH community actually autistic?

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>>180013820
How EGGCITING we're talking about here?

>>180010293
So you want me to close my eyes, bend over and pretend it's monhun.
Got it.

>>180013852
I don't have the monetas right now to build a new rig yet

>>180013489
its MT framework, it runs REALLY well on PC

>>180012154
Styles were a good idea with poor execution, like underwater combat, apex, guild quests, hypers and deviants.

Like underwater combat, the flaw was mostly a matter of not being thorough enough. Free swimming is fluid (no pun intended) enough but once you start attacking you're rigidly stuck on the current 2D plane just like land but gimped in both speed and moveset. Styles added a few new motions (a few adept counters, the shitty aerial roll that should have been normal roll plus a second input to attempt the jump instead, etc) but overwhelmingly it just rearranges the existing movesets and arbitrarily deletes actions without replacing the input with anything (aerial gs can't charge on ground, striker sns can't backhop, etc), or changes the properties of certain attacks with no physical change to justify it (guild cb doesn't have a gp on chargeA but adept magically does despite using the exact same animation, adept SA gets a swordmorph off the axe upswing that guild doesn't, etc). It ends up feeling very rushed and incomplete.

Some HA tiers were good ideas, offering feature tradeoffs; RoundForce 2 is generally better than RF3 since neither is going to do much damage but 2 charges quicker and doesn't launch allies, but RF3 can be a lot of fun and used strategically to secure a mount. Many Art tiers however are literally just "it does more thing for more meter" and are therefore largely pointless.

>>180013820
How are yo usupposed to do it with all those ledges?

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>>180013929

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>>180013489
>tfw gtx 660
well at least ill get to play bloodborne finally

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>>180010293
For all the things Capcom addressed with MH World, why do they never address the atrocious balance of raw vs elemental damage?

>hey guys we have so many greatswords now and paths, there are OVER 100 final GS you can craft, our artists were hard at work, please look forward to it!
>oh, however... only a handful of them are worth using at all because raw is all that matters.. even if you play to the monster's elemental weakness it won't really matter, raw is always king lol

I fucking hate this so much
So many cool weapons go unused because of capcom's SHIT balance

Just started xx a few days ago and I really like it so far. The attack arts are neat and give me an extra fun little move to mess around with so I don't see the problem. They don't really seemed over powered yet and its easy to just not use them either. I've only been using guild style though. Is it just people getting triggered over how "anime" it is? I can never take comments like these seriously.

>>180014085
you get the egg carry armor like always!

>>180012096
Room still up. May be doing some hunts but dont hesitate to join the room anyway, please.

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>>180014098
Don't make me jolt you, Sasuke

>>179999123
Are they going to be talking about some new news during the 20th?

>>180013489
I have a 9 year old laptop, I'm doomed

>>180013743
>complain about unrealistic thinks
>in a game with dragon, electrics monkeys and more...
>your character do many things that are technicaly impossible for an humanoid
>you litteraly hunt giant monsters with giant weapons made out of corpses of other monsters
>it's unrealistic

>>180014085
The same way you did it in previous games. You skill for Transporter and/or eat for Supercat+Lander, or you fuck off until you do.

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>>180011407
>I am stronger than a real human so I should be able to fire spaghetti out of my eyes
Nice argument dumbass

>>180014098
OUTTA MY WAY

>>180014264
i'm impressed to know you managed to keep a laptop that long

>>180014286
>>180014318

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>>180014238
Most likely it'll just be the same leaked stuff, but better video and audio quality.

>>180014264
We're in the same boat, bro.
Luckily i have plans to get a serious budget desktop going by the time MHW comes to pc

>>180014318
you might be an idiot (yeah i know this is not an argument)

>>180014472
most likely yes

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>>180014318
sorry! enjoy your Monster Hunting Simulator

>>180013978
Yeah, I'll be sad if styles go the way of underwater combat instead of being further refined.

>>180015004
I won't miss style as much as I will miss some arts.
rip critical juncture, the most fun thing in MH ever

>>180014426
I did not have to move it much after dropping out of uni

>>180014318
>monster that eat rocks
>lives in lava
>somehow this makes it capable of creating a beam of focussed light out of his mouth
Can you explain why a Gravios shooting lasers is ok but a dragon focussing his fire into a jet is not?

>>180014318
please address the monkey that shoots beams of lightning from its mouth

>>180014438
The argument about Valfark was that while it's unrealistic, it's not moreso than Kirin shooting lightning out of its horn or Gravios's death laser. Tell me how valfark's existence is equivalent to 'shooting spaghetti out of your eyes'

>>180015004
i kinda miss underwater combat

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>>180015134
Honestly I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in this thread that thinks Gravios is a good monster. His design is stale (fat rock rathalos) and the fight is even worse. How many attacks does he have?
>Roly poly
>Slow run
>Straight laser
>Sweep laser
>Down-up laser
>Hip check(?) I might be remembering that wrong

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>>180015076
As busted as brave LS is, it's fun as hell to shit out mini junctures on the fly.

Who knows, maybe some of the arts you like will make it back in some form. The shoryuken's still in.

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>>180015134
>>180015358
>>180015381
Epic, we're being raided by /v/ again

>farming Miralis hellwings

Jesus christ.
Why are those goddamn shoulders so hard to break? I'm farming for a goddamn destroyer talisman so I can farm the stuff I actually want.

>>180015567
Answer my question faggot, what makes Varfark jet different from Gravios laser

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>>180014318

>>180015485
Charge tail spin fire and sleep fart and he does have a hipcheck

>>180015662
not him, but jho's breath makes sense.
he is literally burping up nasty gas after eating way too many dragonfel berries

they have no argument
every once in awhile some retard tries to paint Monster Hunter as being realistic somehow and fails

this happened even before X came out but increasingly so since then

>>180015485
Oh, I don't think anyone believes Gravios is a good monster. But when people have tolerated him for years and suddenly start screaming 'TOO ANIME, TOO FRONTIER, I WANT TO GO BACK TO OLD MH DESIGN' at valfark, who does nothing particularly egregious other than the jet wings, I get a little suspicious.

>>180015485
fighting him is not exactly fun, but i fucking love it's concept
gravios might even be one of my favorites monsters
also, it had the hip check, but it wasn't like the plesioth, didn't go as far, not as strong, and not with a fucked up hitbox, i don't remember his hip check hitting me

>>180015643
Don't get me wrong it's a great design and had it been in any other game series I would love it but It doesn't fit monster hunter. It doesn't look natural in the least bit in fact it looks like an alien from some sci-fi setting

>>180014227
I'd joing but I'm still LR. Dragging my feet even more now that MHW is a thing.

>>180015998
Get off it, dude
If he didn't do the orbital dive bomb he'd literally just be a sleek silver dragon

>>180015567
>ho no he have a different opinion
>must be /v/
for once these days we had a real conversation, but no, it had to be /v/
stupid frog poster

>>180015823
Coherent, not realistic. They're just shit at wording.

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>>180015927
>>180015485

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>>180015998
Ok let's move the goalpost then, if it's like that then why Varfark looks like an alien to you yet this is fine?

Want to mess around with brave long gl, any recommendations?
Gonna put art expert and loadup,

>>180016186
>frontierfags will defend this

>>180016265
>he's never seen the two headed albino footed-snake

>>180010293
>Now you have to, you know, actually hunt the monster.

Please stop falling for this marketing meme. You're not "hunting" anything. The monster is where it is, exactly the same as it's always been, but now the scout bugs are there so that complete ineptitrons that can't memorize the monster locations and don't know how or can't be fucked to slot an Autotracker skill have a built-in autotracker that kicks in when they fuck around off-target for long enough.

>a Monster Hunter I can show my friends without feeling like a complete embarrassment because I'm playing an obscure 240p Japanese game.

This. This right here. This kind of "oh gawrsh I'm embarrassed to let my friends know I enjoy non-mainstream vidya" bullshit. This is exactly the kind of normie faggotry that needs to stay out of my Monster Hunter.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>180016186
well, frontier is a bit more bullshit than other mh games

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>>180016405
>grandpas will defend this

>>180016405
yes, i will. it's a good and fun monster.
tfw no matter how hard i try i cant beat him

>>180016265
It doesn't have jet engines growing out of its back and how the fuck am I moving goal posts? Are you just trying to piss me off?

>>180016524
I'm a grandpa and what the fuck is that

>>180015643
It's unrealistic, /v/edditor, Gravios eats rocks and lava and shit but valfark just does le XD SUPER RANDOM JETBLAST to make anime kiddies like you rub your tiny dicks.

>>180016149
Nice projection and falseflagging

>>180015998
You're not me, fuck off

>>180016524

I still can't sub20 event GR Ala in 3U, perhaps I should try again

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>>180016524
>when the knockoff looks less shit than the original

>>180016620
>question about the realism of its ability
>"eh i don't like how it looks"
You know what you're doing

>>180016265
because its spooky

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>>180013929
nvr 4get

>>180016627
alatreon, elder dragon introduced in MH Tri
>Tri players are now considered grandpas wich is kinda sad

>>180016684
>It's unrealistic, /v/edditor, Gravios eats rocks and lava and shit but valfark just does le XD SUPER RANDOM JETBLAST to make anime kiddies like you rub your tiny dicks.
Nice job completing avoiding the laser argument, well done, really

>>180016524
>tribabs
>grandpa
No.

>>180016747
In what sense

>>180016684
you're the kind of cancer that should fuck off from /mhg/

>>180016684
>gravios had lavalazers because themed area monster
>rajang goes super sayan because anime
>khezu has plasma blasts
>kushala daora has a windthrower and magic powers
>plesioth has waterlazer
>crabs have waterlazer (despite being in volcano half the time)
>this isnt even mentioning the weapons, which make just about anything seem realistic next to them

but please, tell me how another lazer is so unrealistic compared to previous games

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>>180016991
>>180016903
I like to have new friends once in a while

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WTF IS THIS??????

>>180017196
The cutest!

If only XX was fully translated! I'm pretty sure the award you get from village Valfalk implies a link to the glowing dragon energy ruins of the tower you fight it on. An ancient dragon fighting weapon, perhaps?

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>>180016924
I just gave you you laser argument. Gravios eats rocks and lava, so he can make a laser. Valfark just is a rathalos recolor with jet engines strapped on. See the difference?

>>180017031
Fuck off nintendrone

>>180016620
>>180016431
Stop fucking replying already, you're not me. Fuck off

>>180016524
Don't have to.
That's not Fatalis,

>>180016764
I never said that Valfark ability was unrealistic I am not that faggot. I just don't think he fits monster hunters more natural looking creatures aesthetics

>>180017191
Grandpa, hug me!

>cuz poison sacs
>cuz flame sacs
>cuz water sacs
>cuz it ate something electric


>cuz dragon element

muh realism

>>180017337
I never claimed to be you. Fucking dumbass frogposting tumblrina

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>>180017392

>>180017337
>I just gave you you laser argument. Gravios eats rocks and lava, so he can make a laser. Valfark just is a rathalos recolor with jet engines strapped on. See the difference?
So explain to me how a living being can transform matter in focussed beams of light
And how is that less unrealistic than high pressure heated air propelling a forward a living being capable of emitting such flames

>>180014318
>eats rocks so can fire lava lazer
>eats dragon berries so has dragon lazer

i fail to see the issue, its consistent with the rest of the monster abilities

>>180017191
shall we move grandpas status to great grandpa status now?

>>180017434
I must warn you kid, the Grandpa Hug will kill you in one hit.

>>180000427
It might be easy to exploit

>>180017434
*hugs you*

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>>180008749
Nigger, this is the same shit that happened with fire emblem and now its casualised garbage which completely relies on waifubait just to sell the game because the story and gameplay is garbage.
>All the new gen FE fanboys shit on the old gen for being "toxic" and not welcoming change.
>All the while defending every problem with their shit game just because it sells

>>180016524
Grandpa here, and I really don't like Alatreon. he just felt like a boring modern fantasy dragon. at least be unique like teostra/kushala, or be oldschool like Fatalis/lao.

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>>180017337
>>180017640
G-Grandpas*

Daily reminder of the most autistic discussion of realism in MH I could find

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/163462-monster-hunter-generations/74283824

>>180015134
Different Anon reporting in. The amount and density of hot material required to damage a person via projectile is a lot lower than that required to launch a several ton creature at high speed, particularly repeatedly. Like the difference between the volume of gasoline required for a molotov cocktail versus the amount required to launch a car 100 feet in the air.

This is part of my beef with Rocketwyvern. Other elemental features may not make a lot of sense for the effect itself either, but the process seems like it could believably be sustained for a single fight. Lazors could be low volume, high pressure streams (Plesioth's water laser is pretty much explicitly that), fireballs and lobbed projectiles are low density lumps of material, etc. Valfalk would make a great monster in a different game (hell, PSO2 already has that crystal jet dragon motherfucker and that's kind of cool), but it feels like jumping the shark via jetpack for MH.


>>180015662
Not really any better, also those fucking spindly-ass legs/feet for such a massive body.

>>180015927
Basarios is basically Gravios but at a manageable size and posture, largely mitigating its worst features and just leaving the cool core concept of le rock mon.

>>180015998
I feel this way about Brachydios as well. Honestly the worst offense is the fucking dildo horn but like Zinogremon the overall color scheme does it no favors.


>>180016265
>doesn't know what a leech is

How sheltered are you?

>>180017337
>Fuck off nintendrone
>ho no, he have an opinion he must be a sonygger, an nintendrone, or worse, a /v/ermin

>Stop fucking replying already, you're not me. Fuck off
>ho no, multiple people echanging differents opinions instead of letting only me talk

stupid frogposter

>>180017759
Fire Emblem's stories were always garbage. I never knew how many people cared about them until Awakening/Fates came out.

>>180017923
>mfw I remember this
and I still I want plant monsters

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One of the problems with Valfark's design is that he can rotate his wings and attack with them making his members unlealistic

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>worlds
>s

>>180016524
Nice haircut!

>>180017786
true that, alatreon is boring

Where in the everloving shitfuck do I get Val Habar tickets in 4u only info I've gotten is events

>>180017759
But Conquest was one of the most difficult games in the series on top of having the best maps.

>>180017945
>implying dragon energy isn't more energy rich than gasoline
>implying you know the oxygen content of the atmosphere or the strength of gravity

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Tigrex is named like that because it's colored like a Tiger but that doesn't make sense retroactively when none of the shitty recolors have stripes

>>180017000
at least disufiroa has clear, defined features, while alatreon just looks like a brown smudge in a vaguely elder dragon shape

>>180017601
Yeah he is over the top looking as well. Not as bad as Valfark mind you. I still like Brachy though. He is a fun fight

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>>180018040
who cares really

>>180018040
Your mom finds my member pretty unrealistic, especially when it's inside her

Did they never release MHO on the west because of World?
how long have they been planning MHW for?
or is it just jap autism with computers

>>180018326
motherfucker cucked me out of my waifu, i wont stop until its extinct

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wasn't a fan of 4u but i love the jet dragon
i hope he will be in MHW

>>180018040
as opposed to tixrex being able to fly with those fucking tiny ass wing, or blangonga being able to jump ridiculous distances

the game works on rule of cool and always has

>>180016524
>partially Frontier'd superdupersized Teo/Kush hybrid
>defended by grandpa's

No, and it's easily the worst thing produced during Gen3.

>>180017945
>Different Anon reporting in. The amount and density of hot material required to damage a person via projectile is a lot lower than that required to launch a several ton creature at high speed, particularly repeatedly. Like the difference between the volume of gasoline required for a molotov cocktail versus the amount required to launch a car 100 feet in the air.
Assuming the Gravios laser is made of light like a proper laser the amount of energy required to power a laser of that size and power would much higher than the energy required to propel Varfark forward. If instead is made of lava it would still require an immense amount of energy to propel forward a material that dense at the speeds of the beam (it's traveling in a straight line basically unaffected by gravity wich means it's REALLY fucking fast) by comparison a cubic meter of lava averages at 3.3 tons, you can imagine how much lava a Gravios can spew out in that beam and the amount of energy required to bring it at that speed.

>>180018403
>Did they never release MHO on the west because of World?
no, it's because it was made by tecent games, a chinese company, for chinese people
fuck the chinese btw

Does anyone here actually play MHO?
How do you deal with all that ching chong chinese symbols?

>>180018454
she*

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bears and lizards
dogs and monkeys that shoot lightning
penis with legs monsters
exploding juice dinosaurs
enemy crab
giant enemy crab
dragons
western fantasy dragons
eastern fantasy dragons
dragons w fire in their wings

I want it ALL

>>180000036

Shit. I've been waiting nearly a decade. I can wait a bit longer.