/dsg/ - Dark Souls General

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Seath is cute!

best soundtrack coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB8Smt1adu4

Anybody on PS4 wanna help me transfer some stuff?

>>176169245
Sure, what's your PSNID/Character name?

Whats a good weapon for a faith build that doesn't rely on buffing my weapon w/ lightning blade or dmb?
I want to pump up to 60 faith w/ 30 atonement for my desired miracles. So cant really invest into 40 str for a heavy infused weapon.
That isnt a ss also.

>>176169347
Saint's Bident is in a very good spot right now, but the moveset isn't very interesting. Still, if you will be casting a lot of spells, maybe you won't mind that all it can do is poke.

>>176169327
Let's meet at Highwall, pass is dsg. First character is Cathedral Guard. Gonna transfer items from him to Cathedral Knight the second character.

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Anyone else thing Dark Souls 3 has great atmosphere and in general is a really good game in the series?

Anyone else think that Lothric Castle is the best castle environment in the series?

>>176169347
if you have 60 faith theres no reason not to buff using lightning blade my dude

>>176169347

Best option is a Blessed Lothric Knight Greatsword, gains 701 AR at 18/16/60 STR/DEX FAI.

Otherwise your best option is Lightning-infused regular weapons like the Longsword, Mace or Glaive. The only other decent heavy Faith-scaling weapons that don't rely on buffing are Wolnir's and Earth Seeker, both of which need 27 STR investments at least to go with.

Which one of you just trounced me after my Havel Knight tussle?

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Post shitters

>>176169347
Lightning infused LKGS

Anything lightning infused is fine. Buffing is just a bonus most of the time.

>>176169575
I think DS3 is an excellent game, but there are too many castle environments for me to easily pick a #1.

>>176169573
I was gonna say I have pretty much everything so we can just go straight to me dumping everything and you duping it. Only thing you can return is some duped souls so characters can level and buy all the stuff they need.
My character name is Iron Maiden.

>SL43 at Abyss Watchers
>No summons for co-op
Did I fuck up

>>176169771
That's a little higher than usual, but fine. could just be slow

>>176169771
Seems about right
that area is light on summons seeing as you can beat abyss watchers easily solo by drinking estus and mashing r1

Explain in 5000 words why Dark Souls 2 is worse than 3

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Finally got the DLC, and I'm starting a new playthrough. I haven't played DaS3 since I beat the game before the DLC came out. Kinda disoriented.

What types of builds are good in PvP these days?
Is magic still hot garbage?
What's the meta like? How balanced are things?

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What's the lore behind this?

buff whips

>>176169760
I don't need the souls, just gonna transfer. You placing your red sign? I'm here waiting for it.

>>176169629
That I made and amazing character really triggers you, huh? Just makes me love her all the more.

>>176170097
Sign's down.

So is Code Vein the next Souls game

Can you Dark Hand the Crucifixion Road exiles?

>>176169845
I kept bouncing back and forth between Cathedral and Farron so that might have something to do with it

>>176170185
they are human after all;3

>>176170034
a group of unkindled must go to Anor Londo to defeat that dark lord Aldrich to save the life of the main character's mother who has been afflicted by Aldrich's curse

>>176169771
Nobody co-ops for abyss watchers, in my experience. Just get a big weapon and slap r1, they stagger from a stiff breeze so it's easy to kill them.

>>176169997
The game is much more balanced right now. Straight swords are king, curved swords aren't very good anymore except the Pontiff Knight Curved Sword and Demon's Scar. DLC introduced a bunch of hyper armor weapons that do massive damage so that could be considered meta as well (Mad Kings Halberd, Splitleaf Greatsword, Gael's Greatsword). Dark builds are actually meta as well right now (melee oriented, with 30/30 int faith).

As for magic, Faith has a broken heal spell (Projected Heal) which is very hard to punish and the extremely strong Lightning Arrow, so I consider faith builds the strongest in PvP. Pyros are very good as well, with the best nuke type spells and Black Flame, though most of them aren't very good and spam Black Serpent all day trying to get it to hit.

There's still a lot of balance issues but at least we have weapons from different classes in the meta, so I like it a lot more than before.

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>>176170247

>>176169996
Soul Memory, Item Drop Rates, Soul Memory, Adaptability, Soul Memory

Fuck Soul Memory.

>>176169629
>>176170135
I actually thought that was just lucifer posting without a trip for a moment

>>176170097
Sure you don't want Souls or embers or anything else? Sign's down again.

>>176170034
Is that somebody using Farron Greatsword unironically

Do I have to summon NPCs in DS2 to continue their storyline?

>>176170154
No, Code Vein is the first Code Vein game.

It looks like it might be similar, but I doubt it'll be Soulsborne.

>>176170483
Nah, I'm fine. Thanks though

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>>176170558
Most of them, yeah. At least Benhart and Lucatiel, can't recall how many others.

>>176170463
Nah, some anon has been posting her every thread lately.

>>176170154
Nah, the designs look great, but it has the same problems as DaS2. The weapons all lack a feeling of weight. It's like they are lightly tapping each other with them.

>>176170154
no it's the next bloodborne game

BUFF WHIPS

>enter name:________
Help, game is too hard

>>176170349
Things like carthus only had endlag added, most of the "carthus is bad now" is a placebo meme. Though Pontiff's is better due to the weaponart and frost buff.

Straightswords are also not that great in comparison to the DLC halberds and gael's, but you at least mentioned those.

>>176170806
Fagballs

>>176170806
[Name} of [Location in Dark Souls series]

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Anyone on PS4 willing to spare some embers? Tired of trying to help useless hosts that summon 3 phantoms and can't stay alive

>>176170767
being able to use rolling whip attacks with them in the offhand would be enough for me

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>tfw you see a mimic head ghost going up the stairs as you go back to the bonfire at Anor Londo
w-we're gonna make it...

>>176170916
Try invading some of those useless hosts and taking their embers by force

>>176170916
Sure, PSNID/Character name? Just say a place and pass.

I'm making Simon Belmont. Outside of a whip, which items would be good substitutes for his sub-weapons?

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>>176171038
>mfw I got all 30 without farming once

I've missed the doorway shortcut in Lost Bastille FOUR TIMES now. Would it have killed them to throw a windowsill or something on there?

>get summoned for wolnir because easy sunlight medals
>host dies

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WTF?
The superhackers on /dsg/ have turned me into a dragonsis!

>>176171212
The what in the where now?
No seriously what windowsill lost bastille shortcut

>>176171124
Good on you, honestly my fault for overleveling and thinking TRC would be more populated

>>176171054
High Wall, pass is dsg. Character name is Claytus

>>176170154
Code Vein is developed by Bandai Namco in UE4.

Dark Souls has always been developed by From Software in PhyreEngine, then published by bandai namco.

None of the two games share any of the creative or development team. Bandai Namco just shares funding.

>>176171451
Red sign is down.

>>176169582
No, I did like The Ringed City. What the hell?
I liked it so much that it's keeping me from saying DaS3 is the worst game in the series.

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>>176171250
>get summoned for Midir
>host summons 2 other phantoms
>he's on ng+6

>>176170446
of all the things to complain about, soul memory is the one you dislike the most? are you nuts?

Especially compared to the shitshow that is DS1 matchmaking soul memory was fine. DS1's main problem was the lighting, movesets, and forgettably homogenous bosses.

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>>176171124
>uploading a thumbnail
I am become shame.

>>176171376
The one you open on the bottom floor of the tower with the hordes of royal swordsmen. It opens out into a chasm, but you can drop into it from above and avoid all the swordsmen.

>>176171109
firebombs
kukris
pillars of light

>>176171690
You sound like you're describing DS2.
I'm not being coy, did you misstype?

Holy shit I got sunlight spear at just 45 and it already does huge damage

What are some other staple high faith damage spells that actually work?

>>176168968
Isn't saints the best talisman since it has the highest spell buff?

>>176171689
i havent gotten to midir yet

is he fun

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>>176171623
Awesome, thanks a ton mate

>>176171769
first DS1 was intentional

second DS1 meant DS2

DS2 needed better lighting, movesets, and much better bosses. Everything else would have made sense and been a direct improvement over DS1 if they had done that. Without those things though, all the other changes fell apart.

>>176171292
why does this post make my butt feel nice

>>176171801
lightning stake, wrath of the gods, lightning storm

lightning arrow isn't high damage but has the best pressure of any faith spell

>>176171859
It's a great boss fight but he has a large amount of health and is very mobile, so summoning 3 phantoms increases his already ridiculous health pool and makes him flail around unpredictably.

>>176170558
Summon Pate for the Last Giant and have him survive the battle to receive his armor from him in Earthen Peak.

Summon Lucatiel and have her survive the battle in 3 of the 4 locations to receive her shit in Aldia's Keep.
>The Rotten
>Smelter Demon
>Lost Sinner
>Flexile Sentry
You have to talk to her in these areas to get her to be summonable.

Summon Benhart and have him survive the battle in 3 of the 4 locations to receive his shit in one of the Giant memories.
>Prowling Magus and Congregation
>Giant Lord
>Looking Glass Knight
>Throne Watcher/Defender | Nassandra | Aldia
You have to talk to him in these areas to get him to be summonable.

>>176171887
Well in places like Heide and Majula, I think it's fine.

Anyone on PS4 willing to help with the Demon Bros?

>>176172170
What sl

>>176172170
SL and pass please

>>176172170
Pass?

>>176171887
It also didn't need Adaptability as a stat, could have just left DS1's systems in place. Should have, even.

>>176171006
its one of two useful moves they have thanks to its speed but their AR is absolute diarrhea so you may as well use a shortbow for rolls
whips are just slow and wimpy atm

please BUFF WHIPS

in dark souls 2 is it possible to do a 1 shot bosses challenge like in dark souls?

i know you can one shot bosses with a build in order but can you one shot them just by playing through the game and using whats available?

>>176172246
>>176172247
>>176172337
125, pass is dsg

>>176172495
Unlikely.

>dying in three hits with 40 vig
will From ever get it right? this shit has been a problem since DaS2.

>>176173034
lol just don't get hit

>>176173034
dont get hit

>>176173034
when you think about it souls games are really easy, you just have to not get hit and hit things until they die

>>176173034
Maybe you shouldn't get hit, pleb

>>176173034
Do you only stack health without any other forms of damage mitigation?

Is this your first video game?

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Are Faith builds supposed to be good? What FTH weapons are worth building around in PvP?

Is Knight, Cleric or Herald?

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>>176173231
>>176173528
nice meme, but I meant in PvP mostly. i can not get hit, but that usually means running around in a circle being completely passive, which is boring as fuck.

>>176173551
please fuck off.

>>176173638
how is the advice "don't get hit" a meme? That's how you don't die

>>176173571
knight for paladin build or high vit build.

Herald for high dex and faith but I'm not sure if it's ever best.

Cleric for 60 faith low vit

What would be the optimal build for a saint bident?
I really want to use this beautiful weaopn.

GTX 960
8gb RAM

Why can I only get 45fps in this game with settings lowered? Seems like this game should butter on my rig

>>176173702
>but that usually means running around in a circle being completely passive, which is boring as fuck.
why are you trying to respond to me when you clearly can't read?

>>176173571
>>176173709
I think sellsword actually tends to come out overtop of herald for dex faith

>>176173638
Post your complete build faggot. I bet there were several reasons for you dying quickly.

>>176173731

27 STR/60 FAI with DMB for buffing, unbuffed a Heavy Bident with those stats will reach 406 AR when two handed and with DMB that will be even better. Up to you how much more attunement you want for other miracles beyond that.

>>176173840
advice is still advice, even if you don't like it

a

>>176173882
Is it just me or does bident get out damaged by dsss even if it has more ar?

I'm not sure if it even out damages with dmb if dsss has self buff

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>>176170619
I unironically think No Man's Wharf is one of the best areas in the series

How do I invader in DS2?

Online play in the dark souls series has been extraordinaly bad in 1 & 2 so not having to go online is a bonus. broken backstacks, hitboxes, laggers are terrible. I never really experienced issues with people abusing ''OP'' things though in DS2.


Biggest thing I dislike in DS 3: no armor upgrades. I don't think poise actually works versus enemies, I remember with heavy armor you wouldn't get stunned so easily as you do now. Also heavy armor is not upgradeable and in its base form with the base stats, well the stats are mediocre. In DS 2 you could trivialize a whole lot with something like full havel or smelter demon set because you would take 13-15 hits to kill instead of 2-3. Now if you do the same stuff you'd die in 4 hits instead of 2-3. But it does require a high investment to keep under 70% load.

>>176174156
use crushed red eye orbs

>>176174109
really makes you think how fun the game would have been with working lighting and torch features

Reminder that if you did the following things, you didn't truly beat DS3

>summoned phantoms
>beat Yhorm with the Storm Ruler
>beat Ancient Wyvern with a plunging attack
>parried a boss
>upgraded VIG past 25
>embering for extra health
>used a shield
>used a straight sword
>leveled past SL80
>beat Dancer after killing at least one Lord of Cinder

>>176174180
don't get hit xD

>>176174156
kill a couple hundred pigs in majula while wearing the anti soul memory ring for a couple dozen crushed red eye orbs
Save a copy of your save file
use all orbs
replace new save file with the old one to regain the orbs

>>176174109
you can shoot the bell with a bow from the bottom of the level to trigger the ship docking

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>>176174227
>If you did anything that I lose to then you are bad!

KEK Is there anything level 80 shitters won't bitch about?

>>176174058

DSSS will do more damage than an unbuffed Bident especially with the self-buff active but with the buff on Bident should do more. Compare them both on the Drakeblood Knight NPC at optimal stats or a friend who's playing, the main benefit of the Bident though is having more range with the than the Swordspear's attacks sans the 2HR1 which is slower on Swordspear anyway.

what's the go to weapon in dark souls 3 for just playing through the game fast to get the actual weapons/equipment you want? like the gravelord greatsword equivalent?

>>176174227
I summon 2 phantoms and let them do everything for me while I cast spells from afar the whole game. I've beaten it around 5 times now
come at me

>>176174508
Remember when this faggot was one of the biggest proponents of SL80? kek

>>176174624
LKSw is the first thing I go for on every playthrough.

>>176174624

Raw Broadsword.

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>>176174226
I thought DaS 2 was perfectly good fun, and I liked the changes they made to the combat mechanics, but holy shit, some of the areas were awful.

>Aldia's Keep
>Shaded Woods
>Harvest Valley/Earthen Peak
>Brightstone Cove Tseldora
>The gauntlet of bullshit leading to the mirror knight

Areas like Lost Bastille and No Man's Wharf are fucking amazing, but those are inexcusable

None are as bad as Lost Izalith, though

>>176174320
I'm not trying to get hit but by making armor so weak and not upgradeable it feels like they took a very big thing out of the game. You might as well just walk around naked.

God I forgot how much I hated Abyss Watchers with a big weapon

>>176174484
Neat

>>176174876
don't get hit xD

>>176174684
That literally never happened, especially in DaS3.

>>176174830
Why does everyone hate lost izalith?

>>176174830
It's obvious they rushed it. Izalith looks huge first time you come there. Then when you can get further you encounter a bunch of reskinned demons and another asylum demon. Then you actually get to fight a boss with a new model and can progress. Just to meet only 3 types of new enemies and a rather disappointing layout. The endboss is rather frustrating but at least original. It could've been a much better area if fromsoftware had delayed release for 3 months to make it great.

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>>176174876
>Friede's 3rd phase with an Ultra

>>176174508
do people not like going past 80 for some reason?

>>176174227
ur BORING DAD
btw bufff WHIP

>>176174515
Dsss has better moveset and doesn't require a slot for buff

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>tfw High Wall didn't look like this

>>176175210
>>176174515
What I don't get is how does Dsss out damage the bident with even if it has less ar and split damage.

>>176175172
A few shitters were trying to force level 80 when the game first came out because they were using a build that was statistically the best at that level. The same shit happened in BB too.

They tried to force their meme level in both games, but people just laughed them off and went on about their business.

>>176172508
still need help?

>>176174849
i feel like they did it so everyone would shift from exclusively +10 vengarls and wear what they like
like in BLOOD-BORN

Anyone ~189 NG4 help me kill Aldrich? He's kicking my ass.

>>176175210

It's only benefit is mediocre spear and partizan 1H R1s and R2s which are slower than 2H attacks of regular weapons in that class. It's 2HR1 halberd attacks also have less innate poise health than other glaive-type attacks because they forgot to buff it when they buffed regular halberds meaning you need around 40 poise just to tank a curved sword or spear after having your poise health lowered from 100%. The WA is also incredibly risky to use midfight once the buff wears off because it's long enough to reaction backstab. Bident meanwhile has the spear 2HR1s which have almost no recovery frames and Charge for close range poise trading in its favor.

>>176175216
Yeah it's called Bloodborne.

>>176175652
On Xbox*

>>176175652
booting up my Sega Genesis

>pussy uses seed of giants

little bitch

>>176173731
40/40 dark bident
502 ar 2h

>>176175483
Depends on if the guy im attempting this with me still wants to try, i dpnt like summoning more than one phantom

>>176175906
just clump the enemies up and send them his way
seeding is a huge mistake

>>176175856
i can help

where we at

>invade
>connection error as soon as I spawn
Are these people alt-F4ing as soon as they hear the invading sound or what?

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>>176175158
It's the most rushed area in the entire series, bar none.

It's literally an empty room of lava with nothing but dragon asses, followed by a big gray blob of brick textures full of retardedly-placed stone egg monsters and a couple of weird walking trashcan things and a hostile NPC. You slog your way through this retarded-ass bullshit only arrive in the boss arena and fight the Bed of Bullshit, the worst boss in the entire series, bar none.


And it could have been so much more than what it was.

>>176176019
I'm standing at the fog gate.

>>176175973
I'll keep at it as long as you want.
Slightly laggy Demons are a little trickier than I thought.

>>176176173
ok let me soap
im literally booting up
password d33p

>>176175906
>not using the 45 seconds to kite a huge-ass enemy towards the host, and then attacking him along with the mobs once the Seed expires

dark souls 3 has shit matchmaking

>>176176252
your mom has shit matchmaking

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>>176175216
You mean Yharnam?

Also, why does Micolash say some people call Kos Kosm?

>>176176278
fuck you kill yourself you stupid fucking nigger

Dear Lord can someone please help with Abyss Watchers

SL43 on PC

>>176176063
Sometimes it may be bad network connection between you two. I had it when trying to co op a lot

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>>176176278
Burn!

>>176176087
>dragon asses
post

>>176176402
>help
don't get hit xD

Why does everyone point down at me as soon as they see im using the followers javelin?

>>176168968
Am I a shitter for using the Black Knight sword?

>>176176214
Sounds good man, thanks for being patient. Gimme about 5 minutes if you don't mind, gotta feed the pets.

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>>176176252
I dragged my brother from his wii, keep talking anon I'll listen!

>>176176475
no it's a great and stylish weapon

>>176176453
suck my cock

>>176176475
Are you using it because you find it fun or because you saw some fag on youtube using it?

Anyone wanna help with the Belfry Gargoyles? PS4?

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>>176176495

>>176174830
Reeeee Lost Izalith

Why couldn't you be not shit

DaS1 would have been the greatest vidya experience of all time if only you could have been not shit

>>176176536
It felt like it was pretty powerful for the areas I'm in; I'm slogging through Irithyl right now and upgraded it kills the Pontiffs pretty easily.

>>176176673
I'm using it because it was a pretty obvious upgrade from my Halberd, and I wanted to try a greatsword moveset.

>>176176475
I don't know why you would be.

bless your quest, firelink onion senpai

Does the heavy crossbow drop only from the one cathedral knight using it in the rafters?

How do people enjoy this games pvp? Its so badly balanced and the phantom range is objectively shit design

>>176176674
>Belfry Gargoyles
What

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>>176175703
>>176176292
It did actually used to look like this, though, in pre-release screenshots it looked like we'd be visiting the High Wall at dusk or dawn.

It even works better dark because a lot of the normal enemies have a source of light attached to them, which goes by unnoticed in normal gameplay since it's daytime.

>>176176894
Yep, the arbalest

>>176176986
just don't get hit xD

>>176177107
no nigga its not the arbelast its the heavy crossbow

>>176177104
pls ;_;

I'm so lonely.

>>176177165
I dont but i still take damage. And it's not even lag

>>176177104
sotfs boi

>>176175973
Let me know when you're ready for a real phantom to help.

>>176176894
yes

>>176176986
I just cheat so any invader gets stomped by my sleeper stats.

>>176175158
Because it's the biggest letdown of the series, and completely unfinished to boot. They hype up Izalith as this spectacular ruined land of pyromancy and demons, and when you actually get there, you can see the designers panic as they realise they have no money left and the deadline is coming at them.

It's just sad. If it was merely a bad area, it probably wouldn't be hated half as much as it is, but the worst part is that the potential is there, if you squint, it was just completely pissed away in the interests of finishing it as soon as possible.

It has no real zone progression, the level design is outright non-existent, the enemy design and placement is slapdash as fuck, basically just slapping a bunch of demons in to give the illusion of meaty encounters, and the bosses are garbage as well. Oh look it's another fucking Asylum Demon. Centipede Demon is just a garbled mass of polygons that flails around like it is made of rubber bands and hope, Ceaseless Discharge has like, what, two attacks? Also it dies instantly if you just fucking run back to the start of the arena. Bed of Chaos is literally just a gimmick where you hit the two glowing weak points while it attacks pre-set areas.

I dream of a Dark Souls remastered edition that completely remakes Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith and Tomb of Giants to follow the same design principles as the first half of the game, even if it leaves the shitty bosses in.

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>>176177213
Lol nerds I'm not ruining my soul memory for measely gargoyles

>>176177434
That's really dumb dude. And completely unfair.

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>>176176448
It's literally just a hastily repurposed model from elsewhere in the game.

>>176176475
Nah, Black Knight weapons outside of the glaive are always styling.

>>176177105
I think it could have been darker than it was, but that screenshot is too dark in my opinion.

Dragonfire would have been cool at dusk, though.

>>176177535
r i n g
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>>176177728
Don't talk shit about my weaponfu, anon. The BKH is beautiful, no matter what the speedrunners have done to it.

>playing as a spear
>1 player
>doing nothing but moving towards them at the slowest walking pace all fight
>win
IT FEELS SO GOOD

>>176176894
Yes.

>>176177107
Arbalest is different. Slightly heavier, tiny bit more AR. That's what the hollows in the area use. It also looks less cool.

Not sure why it's not the other way around, but whatever.

>>176177839
Glaive isn't shitter tier, it's just 'okay', while the other BK weapons are better.

>trying out a pyro build
>notice I can use dark sorcery too
Is it interchangeable if I use izalith staff?

Is doing this "unlock true power" thing worth it?

I read that it turns you hollow and can also permanently kill you. I'm not sure how this works or really if it's worth it.
I generally try to do everything on my first playthrough and get everything I can and do all the good things I can.

>>176178115
For extra style points, only use dark pyromancy.

Otherwise, yes, it's interchangeable.

>>176178131
It just gives you 5 free levels, and turns you hollow, which makes you look like an ugly shriveled zombie. It also unlocks a new NPC if you get all 5 levels before AbyssWatchers.

>Weapons have phantom range

You guys really think this game is good? lmao

>>176176894
Easiest way to farm it is to start at Rosaria's bonfire, run to Patches' bridge (kill the man-grub before it otherwise the noise he makes can aggro the Cathedral K***ht and make him move), and headshot him. He'll fall off the side and die, if you see a drop then Silvercat down and grab it, then Darksign back to Rosaria's.

>>176178131
It's free 5 levels on your character, won't carry over on next play through, but if you want one of the endings to the game you must draw your "true" strength.

>>176178273
not that guy
are the softcaps different?
i know izalith staff uses 45/45 but whats the pyro softcap

>>176178131

Do it, the hollowing is only a visual effect in practice unless you want extra points in Luck from Hollow infusion and nothing can 'permanently kill you.'

Doing it with Yoel also gets what this >>176178320 anon said which unlocks the third ending if you want it.

>>176178273
sweet
are they worth using? better/worse dark sorcery spells?

>>176178362
just don't get hit lol XDDD

>>176178131
No, literally the only consequence of going hollow is turning into beef jerky man forever. You can cure it at any point after you get the fire keeper soul from the firelink tower.

It unlocks an alternate ending and links to Anri's questline.

I usually go hollow, then immediately cure it and kill Yuria after Abyss Watchers because I hate being beef jerky man and gotta get that black set for fashion souls purposes.

>>176176214
Sorry about the wait. Just about had him and choked

is it really worth it to go 40/40? why not stop at 27/40?

>Way of Blue adherent
>honorfag
hang yourself

How do I magic man it up in DS2?

DS2fags: What gift do you usually chose?

>>176178474
a man of taste
that billed mask top fashion

>>176178507
>fucker does bow gesture after getting destroyed by blues

eat my ass

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>>176178474
What always annoyed me was that if you want it the story way, you have to summon Yuria and have her live during the soul of C boss fight. It would sometimes work and others no.

I'm a fucking casual and cannot for the life of me beat O&S in DaS1
I started keeping a tally and am up to 30 attempts, yet have never gotten either of them below 75% by myself (I try to kill O first but have tried S a few times, to no avail).
The guide videos are bullshit because they behave incredibly unpredictably, most of the time within the first 30 seconds O will spear me and throw me to the ground, and S will crush me for a 1-2 kill that I can never seem to dodge.
I've summoned Solaire a few times but he always ends up attacking the wrong one and getting killed fairly quickly.
Any tricks? Specific weapons? I'm normally a knight type but usually do a lighter armor and spear because it's more maneuverable here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqXYkkkgAA

>>176178730
don't get hit lololol XD

>>176178453
Dark sorcery is good. Affinity and Great Deep Soul are your go-to options, Great Soul Dregs is nuclear mode. Dark Edge is a hex version of Soul Greatsword, and functions in much the same way, though it's an overhead swing rather than a horizontal one.

Dark pyromancy is mostly just an upgrade over regular pyromancy. Black Flame is Great Combustion 2.0, Black Fire Orb is Fire Orb 2.0, and you get Black Serpent which is cool as well. The only non-dark pyromancy most people use is Chaos Vestiges.

You also have access to hex miracles, though they're not very good. Dorhys' Gnaw can be kind of useful, maybe.

>>176178730
Use the pillars.
Walk around the outside of all pillars and attack when you can.

>>176176823
Then you are not a shitter because of it.

>pvp
>enemy makes a grunt when i hit them
>game plays the hit noise
>they dont take damage

Why?

>>176175590
> wear what you like

If I wear catarina armor set for example my characters weight is hitting above 100%, but it doesn't give me much benefit in terms of damage reduction.

It seems to be more like ''wear whatever is the lightest or nothing at all''. Because then you get more stamina. I think it's a terrible decision and it makes by default VIT the worst stat because why would you level it to wear heavy armor when it gives you barely any reduction to incoming damage?

>>176176087
Worst area is the one in DS 2 in elysium loyce (that was the name right?) that is basically snow everywhere with a snowstorm raging. The white is so bright in the game that it gives me a headache after 10 minutes. Never even arrived at the boss arena in that area (and not going to either).

>>176178730
Bro if a retard like me on X360 can beat them fat rolling because I thought the giant armor would protect me more (only 26 vigor) and no one told me that was bad. Then I'm sure you can do it too, I even wasted all the souls I farmed on the giant smiths crystal weapons and finally beat them with a crystal halberd after 67 fucking tries (yeah I counted). Just dogde the spear time and space yourself, take out orstein first since the next phase is a joke once he's dead.

>>176178730
Are you locking on? Don't lock on. Space and try to keep both O&S on screen at once.

Ornstein is more passive in his attack style, while Smough is slower. Keep that in mind, and use the pillars. Smough gets caught on them a lot, leaving you free to fight Ornstein for 4-6 seconds.

>>176178771
>>176178471
>>176177165
>>176176453
>>176174993
Is someone mad because they were called out for being a shitter?

Dark Souls 1 - Slow but deliberate combat, able to learn the moveset of enemies

Dark Souls 2 - More of the same despite dodgy hitboxes, still learnable

Dark Souls 3 - WILD FLAILING ATTACKS FUCK LEARNING, WE INFLATABLE TUBE MEN NOW

Fuck dark souls 3

>>176177658
Dont worry it's not impossible for me to die, i just have at least a 20 point advantage over them to make things a little fun for me.

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>>176179046
The amount of enemies I see in this game and make me remember my character isn't the fucking Hunter is infuriating

>>176179067
I guess if you make it kind of fun for them then that could work. I do like those videos of the hackers pretending to be bosses

>>176179046
don't get hit haha

>>176178730
You really need to use the pillars. Smough gets stuck in the pillars most of the time, hopefully giving you a chance to attack Ornstein.

Also a +10 weapon at this point would be extremely helpful. It's usually easier to kill ornstein first because Smough will just retain his original moveset while ornstein gets a lot of different moves when you kill one of them.

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>Pointing down at bosses/NPCs

I sincerely hope you ashen ones don't do this.

>>176179132
You mean like every dog you come across?

>>176179158
i make sure i dont heal even if they do, besides i could probably kill them in 5 hits if i wanted to

>>176178941
Elium Loyce

Cool name, I was expecting a good area. I was dissapointed. Pretty okay boss arena though, and Burnt Ivory King was fun.

>>176179203
I only do it to Champ Gundyr after I parry him into the shadow realm

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>>176179203
Reminder to all male unkindled, in order to procreate with this magnificent specimen of a woman, you must snuff out the flame!

>>176178586
I think I usually picked the Petrified Something. You can trade it to the crows for a chance to get rare upgrade materials early.

They're all pretty negligible though. You can farm them all infinitely by the lategame anyway.

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>trying to do a Felicia the strong build
>Greatlance is bad
>Get pointed down alot for using a greatshield in PvP
She has it rough

>>176179289
>burnt ivory
>fun
>have to fight him and a bunch of adds

That fight was shit, the only give you one guy to help and he bails out. It took me fucking forever to kill that boss, shit design honestly.

>>176179301
but he's already at shadow realm?

>>176178586
bonfire ascetic so you can cheese drragonrider twice at the beginning and get to level 40 instantly

>>176178730
Make sure you're upgrading your weapons. The blacksmith isn't just round the corner by accident. lots of people seem to forget this.

>>176178586
bonfire ascetic so you can get the crypt greatsword early

>>176179435

And you put all the points straight into ADP to get not-shit rolls, because fucking retarded game design.

>>176179203
>Not waving goodbye to Wolnir

i just got ganked so hard my game froze and i had to sign out of windows

>>176179407
take it and go away fisherman

>>176179407
>only give you one guy to help and he bails out
You dense fucking retard.

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>>176179046
Dark Souls 1 - Shields trivialize everything in the game, with no need to dodge, ever

Dark Souls 2 - Dodgy hitboxes and deadzones out the ass, but at least you can be punished occasionally for holding your shield up the entire time

Dark Souls 3 - Dodging is extremely potent, to the point where people forget that shields exist and totally stop all wild attacks dead in their tracks, with certain attacks being slow and deliberate, but they'll break a guard easily. Each method of avoiding damage having clear drawbacks on a case-by-case basis

Fuck contrarians

>>176179601
Now that's fucking cruel, poor dude is being pulled by the abyss. We legit pulled a scar killing mufasa, long live the king and all.

>>176179407
You're supposed to find the other three knights man

>>176179370
>you will never squeeze that mountainous bicep
I have it rough too

>>176179321
Murdered the bitch, fuck Londor. Bunch of jerky faced twats.

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>>176179203
>not raising your greataxe in salute to Nameless King

would leveling from 30 to 35 significantly impact my invasion potential in the undead settlement?

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>that 2 for 1 from fucking Demon Prince just now

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>>176179903
Good! Now go forth and pump out more unkindled children the any of those hollows ever dream of!

>>176179937
>invading in Und*** Settlement
You should be SL20 max for that.

>>176179742
>to the point where people forget that shields exist

Right up until Irithyll and the first pack of Pontiff Knights, where you either git gud, git shield, or git fucked because of their whacky attack timing and super retard aggressive flailing.

>>176180036
too lewd

>>176180056
idk I mean at level 30 I was getting constant invades, although once I upgraded my weapon to +2 they dropped significantly in frequency

Summoning blues to fight reds is pretty fun now, two will usually show up by the time two red come in so you can usually get a nice little 2v2 going. A lot of blues will stick around you like a child about to have their first day at school once they realize theyre going to have to duel for their ear, a lot of blues afk or coming in with their farm gear on too heh heh. I even had one guy shit on a red with his symbol of avarice still equipped.

>>176179046

Dark Souls 1 - Get Black Knight Halberd and steamroll
Dark Souls 2 - Get Black Knight Halberd and steamroll
Dark Souls 3 - Get Black Kn-wait shit, you don't get it until late as fuck. You mean I have to actually dodge shit now?

>>176180064
Exactly, but shields put a full stop to damn near all enemies with wild attacks, because those attacks are explicitly designed to fuck with people leaning too hard on dodgerolls. Even then, you aren't forced to use a shield at all, if you can adapt.

>>176179742
Shields and armour has been nerfed hard in DS3. Though you still had stuff like the dragon crest shield that is good vs almost everything (and havel's shield but you get that bit late into the game)

DS1, even with how shields worked, was harder than DS3 imo.

>>176179370
Greatlance isnt bad though.
Just not incredible

>>176180214
Alway fun to comeback to darksouls 1 and ninja flip around with the black knight sword.

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rate my fashion souls t. 2012

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What are the best faith weapons?

>>176180246
I actually thought it was pretty good design, since I think it's intended to prepare new players for dealing with Sillyman.

>>176172339
>I like taking choices away from players so that they can't make the wrong choice

it's almost as if you don't like what makes dark souls unique.

Separating your iframes and roll distance into two independent stats was a smart idea. The only problem is how vague they made the descriptions, the stat itself is fine.

>>176178753
Weirdly good spirited with no meta faggotry, please remove this for being too fun.

>>176180160

And the people that were invading you were level 20's max with +0 weapons. Level 35 will completely kill your invasion pool, because matchmaking prefers to place you against higher level enemies when you invade.


>>176179926
>>176179601

>Being illiterate

>>176178730
Upgrade your weapons, use a good stability shield, lock on O, keep them both in view.

Don't be greedy, this is a test of patience. O has the longest recovery animations, he's easiest to kill first, stay on him, but lock on O, because he will always dash towards you if you are out of his reach.

Block every hit from O, but dodge or outspace hits from S, you'll have enough stamina to counterattack S.

If you do this correctly, killing O is simple but tough to get used to.

First, don't be fooled he will always find a way to hit you, no matter how far away you think you are, his range is absurd.

His fast donwards thrust is the most dangerous move, it combos into his 4 hit chain (doesn't stunlock you), you can escape them all, but only if you time your rolls correctly, or else he will rollcatch you and reck your hp.

His second most dangerous move is the FAST lightining bolt, because he can hit you with the bolt and the spear at the same time, block, but rolling is better.

Finally, his butt slam is you oppotunity to counter attack. If you get him to chain them, you can do a running attack on him,then back away before he can harm you with the shockwave.

Good luck.

>>176180064
Already happens in tombs of Carthus with those scimitar dudes jumping around everywhere.

>>176177460
>I dream of a Dark Souls remastered edition that completely remakes Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith and Tomb of Giants to follow the same design principles as the first half of the game, even if it leaves the shitty bosses in.
Holy shit yes. Also with a better port for PC and improved matchmaking/connection

>>176174109
It's a DeS level. More areas needed to be like that.

>>176174180
they took out armor upgrades because people complained about soul memory too much, so instead of reworking a matchmaking system for punishing people for having fully upgraded armor they just removed them from the game.

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>Died to sword silver knight while farming
well I guess this is enough farming today

>>176179787
Sure, next youll tell me theres a giant lake underneath a tree?

>>176180356
Blessed LKGS
Saint Bident
Crucifix of the Mad King
Sunlight Straight Sword

I cannot for the life of me get Dragonrider to fall. It might be easier to kill him legit.

>>176180415
No, it was unnecessary bullshit that over-complicated everything and made balance a nightmare for the sake of false depth.

It wasn't a choice because it was broken. Invest in it and trivialise the entire game, don't invest in it and eat shit because the developers expected you to invest in it. Such choice. So unique. Wow.

>>176180853
nevermind i did it

>>176180269
>Shields and armour has been nerfed hard in DS3.
That's kinda my point. Stacking defense and poise with a even a medium shield made you into a brick that couldn't be cracked open in PvE.

Now that defense values and shields in general are no longer absolute, it can throw even players whos playstyle centers around being a brick into situations where they'll struggle, but in different ways than someone who forgoes a shield.

I.E. Pontiff Knights. A more durable player doesn't have to worry about their odd timings and relentless flurries because they bounce off of shields and don't drain a lot of stamina. But enemies that have slower, more brutal attacks may prove difficult, as a more nimble player could easily avoid the pain entirely. It's a tradeoff.

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Hey End if you're still here, thanks a ton for the help mate. He actually glitched through the wall, fell through the arena and died.
>mfw

>>176180942
well done buddy!

As a sorc in DS2 who just started, what should I spend my souls on?

>>176180859
This. The only way Agility would have worked is if DaS1 poise still existed and was inversely proportional to your Iframes/agility. More poise = less iframes per roll.

What's the best boss fight in the series?
Like, good challenge without being unfair.

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>>176180393
Fighting Pantysniff Sillyman on NG+7 was certainly an experience. You dodged well or you died, much fun was had.

>>176179203
Saw someone bow at Hodrick when I invaded once.

It was fucking disgusting, I had to turn away from my TV and vomit. If I EVER see that faggot in real life I will break his fucking teeth for being such a cringy little shit. I hate people like that. I bet you guys will understand this feel.

>>176180269
>DS1, even with how shields worked, was harder than DS3 imo.

How you can literally wear havels and face tank the entire game without even rolling.

Poise and the havels set is so powerful in ds1 bosses can not even interrupt your sips without grab attacks.

>>176181107
Levels, only levels. Don't buy upgrade materials, don't buy too many consumables, and only spend on upgrades if you're certain that you're going to use that weapon in the long run.

Buying limited consumables like Fragrant Branches is fine. But upgrade materials can be farmed, and item purchases outside of unlocking more options for Maughlin should be limited as much as possible.

>>176181273
"Punch his teeth in" got me to chuckle loud thanks.

>>176181273
same

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>>176180984
A victory's a victory I guess. As long as you got him. I'm off to get some rest.

>>176181148
Midir is the best in recent memory

>>176181362
What should I level, though? Intelligence? Attunement? VIT/VIG/END so I survive more? ADP so I have a non-shit roll? STR or DEX so I can actually equip things? I'm so lost.

>>176181148
Gwyn, without parrying
Kalameet
Fume (assuming you weren't a retard who didn't stake the Ashen Idols outside)
Alonne
Champ
Nameless King
Soul of Cinder
Midir
Gael

>>176181148
gael
manus

>>176181107
A better game like ds3 or bb>>176181273
>that faggot in real life I will break his fucking teeth for being such a cringy little shit

I would beat the shit out of you nerd.

You only can do anything to me as a twink invader in video games. You edgy little pale teenaged autist.

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I haven't gotten to Gael yet, but does he have an assload of HP too? I feel like Midir and Prince's health bars just never ended.

>>176181521
Int and attunement if you want to be a sorc obviously

>>176181624
I platinumed those already

>>176181473
Later mate, I'll shoot you a friend request.

>>176181473
That's just embarrassing.

>>176181521

You should get VIG to 20 which is the first softcap, if you're a new player. You won't be able toa void every bit of damage until you're more experienced. Agility is gained from both ADP and ATT, so I'd say put some into ATT until you have an amount of spell slots you're comfortable with for the most part (16 gives you 3 slots and 20 gives you 4, either of those is fine), then get ADP to the point you get 100 Agility.

After that level Intelligence. If you know what weapon you want to use you can get your Str/Dex to the minimum stats, but the most of your damage SHOULD be coming from spells.

>>176181473
>>176181748
What ng were you guys on and how did it take so long at sl 100?

>>176179370
>you'll never have some victory sex on top of the corpses of those generic DS2 bosses with Felicia
we all have it rough around here, anon

wish we had more art of her too, our resident drawbros are so shy

>>176181521
Generally focus on getting Vigor and Int up, you won't need that much Attunement in the short run. A bit of Adaptability is okay just for getting your rolls outside of the "absolute shit" range, but since you're wearing robes and are probably well under 50% equip load you can sort of get away with it due to your rolls having longer range (and as a caster you shouldn't need to roll that much anyways).

You'll "eventually" need more Str and Dex for wielding your target weapons, but being able to two-hand a longsword is usually enough in the short term. As long as you have Binoculars and Soul Arrow, you should be fine.

Vitality isn't as big of a meme in DaS2 as it is in DaS3, but you generally shouldn't need much of it anyways since you're a caster who's just going to be equipped with cloth armor, a staff and a weapon or two.


You'll eventually get a bunch of Soul Vessels to respec, so don't worry too hard. Just focus on losing as few souls as possible until you get to Lost Bastille and buy the Agape Ring.

>>176181624
>I will beat the shit out of you nerd
Dont you ever fucking say that to me again.
You don't know WHO I am
You don't know WHAT I'm capable of
You don't know WHERE I am

I will fucking devastate you. You piece of shit, watch your mouth or I'll invade you in real life and pillage your shit. Plebiscite.

>>176181948
Kek

>>176181704
He's a three-phase boss, and unlike Midir you don't get a free visceral to shave off 20% of his HP bar.

>>176181948
would you invade my ass

>>176181879
My character is 125 but I'm on NG+7. To put into perspective how much health he had in 2nd phase i had him well below half health before he fell through the arena. When he died it showed about 5800 health being taken off of him. I only summoned one person as well.

>>176179370

These fucking stats remind me of RO.

>>176182091
post it first

>>176181793
Yeah it's pretty embarrassing, thought not as embarrassing as healing mid-duel and losing to a RES build on a DaS1 stream or being wrong about not being able to roll through WOTG, or pic related.

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[FLAILING INTENSIFIES]

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>>176179203
DESU if you don't taunt bosses in between dodging their attacks I don't think you're playing this game right.

>>176182169
>pic related

LOL, you just can't stop failing, huh?

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>>176182169
Now that's embarrassing, forgetting the image.

>>176181473
You should have separated them.

>>176182091
No fucking way faggot.

Shit comes out of your ass. No way am I getting shit on MY dick because your a degenerate and can't breed like a NORMAL human being.

Damn, follower javelin has to be my favorite weapon for duels. But ng+3 and on has become pretty slow w/ it.
I wish they sped up the WA atleast.

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>>176182323
It keeps happening. I told you man. I told you about fails.

>>176182250
FUCK THESE STUPID FUCKING RETARDED SOUNDING MOUTH BREATHING SHIT ENEMIES

they're not hard to kill but god damn LEAVE ME ALONE

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/191770

Rate the build I've been using guys!
Guess how much ass i've been tearing up

Spoiler. . . not much

>>176182471

Jesus when I first started and tried to run past to fight the BK in the swamp (between every Souls game I get rusty and have to "git gud" again) they'd chase me all the way.

THEY DON'T STOP CHASING WHAT THE FUCK

Pontiff is artifical difficulty

>>176181148
Artorias, Manus and O&S from DaS1
Fume Knight and Alonne from DaS2
Champion Gundyr, Friede, Midir and Gael in DaS3.

>invade
>host alt+f4s

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>>176182250
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize the best way to fight them is R1 spam.

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>mfw I've already died more to Midir than Orphan
>mfw I've died to Orphan at least 40 times

I can't see the light at the end of this tunnel

>>176182250
When I was farming an early BKGS I had to deal with that fucker every time I made the run from Farron Perimeter.

>>176182878
Artorias was the last time I truly was in love with the game.

>>176182651
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/191771

>>176182883
>putting on the blueberry badge while dungeon crawling
>putting on the blueberry badge when you're about to traverse an area with a shitload of enemies that could immediately kill you
It's your own fucking fault.

>>176182883
nicemoves

>>176183224
i was actually invading