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>Ran out of hope
>>175841868

>The Fire Fades trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaHQVDjJZQ

>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>745 posts
>new
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2nd for blues are cucks
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>>175874137
>playing my dragon character
>got Aldrich invaded by a dragonsis actually named "Dragonsis"
>she spent 20 minutes fighting off reds and purples and escorted me all the way to the boss fog
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ara ara ashen one, are you trying to look under my skirt?
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is there a weapon with a higher one handed DPS than lightning blade SSS
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I'm new to Faith and Miracles.

So Faith boosts Lightning damage right?
What else does it boost?

What's the difference between a chime and a talisman?
What should I use for buffs like Blessed Weapon?
And what kind should I use for Lightning Spear?
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I just heard Lobosjr is getting divorced as well. Is there a curse around Soulstubers that they end get getting cucked or their relationships destroyed? If so, I
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>>175875004
The fire fades, in every relationship anon..
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>>175874137
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>>175875004
You actually give a fuck about streamers?
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>spent so much time on my level 30-40's
>start new character
>around level 53 now
>feel overlevel'd as fuck
How do 120's fags do it?
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>name character after a character from a popular game/show/movie
>don't even attempt to look like said character

I know it shouldn't but this kind of annoys me.
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>>175875002
>So Faith boosts Lightning damage right?
not... exactly... some casting tools' spellbuffs scale off faith, which make what you cast with it more effective, unless the spells don't have scaling like flat buffs (sacred oath, deep protection, carthus beacon, regen buffs).
>What else does it boost?
Some weapons also scale with faith. Some infusions make the weapon scale with faith.
>What's the difference between a chime and a talisman?
weapon art
>What should I use for buffs like Blessed Weapon?
blessed weapon is a flat 15% increase in physical ar, so the casting tool doesn't matter, however it excels on weapons with very high physical AR, such as greataxe/greatsword
>And what kind should I use for Lightning Spear?
depends what you want
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>>175875454
I do hair color and eye color and call it a day. Character creation is way too ass to be bothered with anything else.

Except in DS3 where you can't even do proper hair colors.
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>>175875207
damn
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>>175875004
lobos was starting to receive a nice steady income and didn't want to share it with his gf which he apparently didn't like anymore so he dumped her.

Smart move tbqh, giving 50% of your income to someone you hate in a later divorce is not a pleasant experience
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>>175875002
Faith buffs anything with Faith scaling. It's the 4th modifier after Strength, Dexterity, and Intelligence. If there's a letter there Faith will boost the damage in some way. Lightning Weapons and Blessed Weapons most notably.
Chimes and Talismans are mostly the same, but they have different weapon arts. Chimes have a really cheap (FP wise) regeneration effect that will go away if you switch it out for another weapon, and Talismans give you a big boost to poise for a few seconds after casting with it. Chimes are also generally more powerful for Faith builds in terms of damage, at least at high Faith levels. Generally Chimes are for caster focused characters and Talismans are for melee/hybrid types. Talisman's weapon arts make Faith good for PvP, though I prefer Chimes for invasions and the like since they're not as straight forward as duels are. The extra damage is nice. Also there's a chime that seems to at least double the AoE of your buffs/heals which is great for Co-Oping.
This is just personal speculation and it may be some sort of confirmation bias or Placebo effect on my mind but I feel like Chimes cast slightly slower. Because of the higher Spell Buff at high levels of Faith on Chimes, they're best for Lightning Weapon, but Blessed Weapon doesn't scale with Spell Buff last I checked so use whatever. Lightning Spear's best usage will depend again on if you're a mono-caster or melee/hybrid. Refer to that to know which to use.
Hopefully I'm not blatantly wrong on any of this, but this is how I understand it to be.
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>>175875732
That's about how I felt the first time I got hit by exploding crossbow bolts through solid walls in Lothric Castle.
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>>175875580
Yeah, that is close enough but the amount of jon snows and arya starks I've seen in this game that look nothing like them is off the charts.
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>>175876117
The Drang set would make Jon cosplay super easy too...
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I think I'm onto something here
>WA cast lightning arrow with talisman
>hold it
>just keep holding it
>if opponent does something that'll cause him to take a hit, release it
>if not keep holding it
>if he comes in to trade, release it & start mashing R1 with lightning blade SSS
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>>175876312
Excatly, drang set, black hair, bastard sword. Done.
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WHY DO AUTISTIC FIGHT CLUBS STILL EXIST?! GO TO THE DUEL ARENA YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS NOBODY LIKES YOU!
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>>175876398
fight clubs are part of our culture, if you don't like it you can get out
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>>175875454
Guess who she's (loosely) based on
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>>175876390
Hmm what a novel idea nobody's ever done that before
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>>175876614
I have seen people holding lightning arrow forever, but I haven't seem people using the lingering poise to trade with things like UGS and whatnot
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>>175874365
I like how that's an edit of an edit.

The original Ben Garisson cartoon wasn't about Swedecuckistan.
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>>175876398
If you don't like it you can black crystal, or try killing the host. But good luck against 3 phantoms, 2 dark/mad spirits, and 2 aldrich faithful all coming at you
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I think it's safe to say Dark Souls 3 pvp has completely dropped the ball, and is officially the worst of the 3.
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>>175875002
Miracle damage is dependent on your catalyst's Spell Buff stat which, if you're using a talisman or chime for miracles, typically scales off Faith.

Chimes as a catalyst group tend to have higher Spell Buff ratings. Yorshka's Chime, for example, has the highest Spell Buff of any miracle catalyst in the game. However, the Saint's Talisman is a close second.

The real difference between chimes and talismans are their respective (L2/R2) skills: Gentle Prayer and Unfaltering Prayer.

The Chime's Gentle Prayer restores HP over time, very similar to Replenishment. It's a nice source of healing for very little FP, making it good for early game PvE.

Talismans on the other hand have Unfaltering Prayer, which allows you to cast spells with a poise bonus, so your casts don't get interrupted by enemy attacks. As you might imagine, this is extremely useful for PvP, and has some PvE utility as well. Unfortunately, just how much poise you get isn't revealed to you in-game. Using Unfaltering Prayer with a Saint's Talisman will allow you to take about 1 hit with a straight sword; anything more or bigger will easily stagger you. The Sunlight Talisman has low spell buff, but its Unfaltering Prayer is rock solid, you're pretty much guaranteed to cast your spell unless you are outright killed.

Basically, chimes and talismans are situational. If you can safely cast from a distance, use whatever gives you the highest spell buff. If you need to shove a lightning stake in an invader's face while they r1 towards you, use a talisman.
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>>175876587
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>>175876893
Okay
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>>175876587
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>>175876587
Yennefer, right?
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People still get soo fucking mad when you heal in duels (w/ miracles ofc). Two people in a row disconnected on me just now, haven't had this fun since release.
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>>175877185
And that's a bingo. She's not meant to BE her, just kinda loosely based on her appearance.
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>>175877229
>People get so mad when I pussy out and heal rather than fight them on equal footing
Shocking
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>>175877292
don't ever say "that's a bingo" ever again thats not even what youre supposed to say it's just "bingo"
fuck
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>>175877304
Oh, so you're one of those guys then. Hi! It's a faith build you know.
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>>175877304

t.salty rage quitty
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>>175876587
that's actually really good, post the sliders to the database
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>>175876587
sliders please?
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>>175877354
Do you even movie references, man?
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>>175877229
See I get pissy when people sippy but if someone goes to the trouble of actually using miracles then it's fine.
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>>175876587
My elementary school crush
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So what exactly is the difference between normal bows and lightning arrow? How is lightning arrow better?
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>>175877516
more damage, poisecast
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>>175877506
What's her name?
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>>175877516
Projectile is faster, infinite uses provided you have ashtus, does pure lightning damage, can be poisecast to fuck HA traders
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>>175877354
That's a bingo. Roger over out
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>>175877606
Your mom
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>>175877516
>lighting arrow
an actually good offensive miracle miracle.

>normal bows
fairly shit unless using the xboxheuge one to knock people off shit or the xboxheuge slim to set traps.
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>>175877516
lighting arrow is a faith Miracle that conjures a magic bow with a bolt of lightning drawn. unlike other offensive miracles, it can be held at the ready indefinitely; thus you can release it at an opportune moment, making it difficult for opponents to dodge
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>>175877370
These are all the miracles in the game that don't provide direct healing, Stop being a bad player
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>>175877674
Aww... That's so sweet.
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>>175877304
>people get so mad when I pussy out and block rather than fight them on equal footing
>people get so mad when I pussy out and parry rather than fight them on equal footing
>people get so mad when I pussy out and hyperarmor rather than fight them on equal footing
>people get so mad when I pussy out and cast rather than fight them on equal footing
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>>175874463
Wow get off it dude, with those fancy-dancy high speed underskirt tactics
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You know, the thing that annoys me is when you get an invader, and they know they can't win. They just retreat back to the enemy spawns and wait for another invader. How to deal with this?
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>>175877782

I agree, he should stop using something useful like a healing miracle and use Dead Again if he wants to be a truly skilled player like yourself I'm sure.
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>>175877782
just food for thought... if you can't punish someone kneeling down to heal, maybe it is you who is the bad player. hope this helps
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>>175877808
Thanks son
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>>175875207
That would be worth saving if the second panel actually matched the first one.
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>>175877982
>punishing projected heal
get that crossbow ready for punishing a 400 hp heal with a 150 damage bolt, if you can hit it
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>>175877946
boohoo the invader isn't running into my gank squad however will I deal with this
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>>175877982
Projected heal has the same cast time as Emit Force, with Sages ring. You can get a heal off using projected heal faster than the time it takes you drink an estus
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>>175878118
I usually solo play the game though. I'm talking 1 on 1 son. Get your shit together.
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>>175877946
You know, the thing that annoys me is when you get a host, and they know they can't win. They just retreat back to the bonfire and wait for another summon. How to deal with this?
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If you do the Spears of the Church fight, can you still be summoned to be the boss via covenant?
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>>175878213
literally no invader waits for backup unless he's against a gank squad with how fucked the invasion priority system is
he's waiting for you to move along and gank you with the mobs because why wouldn't he
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>>175878230
>>175878118
>it's a assblasted red spirit episode
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>>175878404
>the original post is literally a host complaining about reds running to enemies
>ooga booga assblasted reds
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>>175878404
Are we watching re-runs? It's been playing for quite some time now
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Lightning Arrow is my new favourite thing. It's best used for assblasting faggots who bow before duels.
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>>175877782
>guy in arena uses homeward to backpedal all the way to firelink shrine
>have to chase him across convoluted space
Miraclefags in arena are the worst. Seek Guidance and Atonement users are also fags. Don't even get me started on people who use Dead Again.
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>>175878571
Don't bother invading if you can't handle a single host of embers alone. It's just pathetic and sad.
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>>175879181
>single host of embers alone
I'll take things that never happened for 500
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>>175878213
>implying he has an obligation to fight you 1v1 in an honorable duel
If he wanted that, he would have put down a Red Sign. He's here to fuck with you and make your day worse, anything goes.
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>>175879181
learn to read you dumb nigger
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>>175876004
this helped me a lot thank you
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>>175879272
I'm doing a dried finger solo run at the moment and I'm kind of disgusted by the amount of twinking and reds literally running away from me even though they have 7 full heals and my 8 estus don't heal a quarter of my health. Furry area has been nothing but disappointment so far. The only invader that actually gave me trouble was a hard twink at highwall with poison.
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Need help at the prince and his twin.pc password 1234 ds3
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>>175879435
Of course, any time. Now go out there and purge the wicked. Particularly dragonfags.
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Damn, playing with a crossbow as a side weapon is fun. Why don't I see more people do this?
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>>175877383
>>175877378
Pretty sure he posted the sliders to Imgur yesterday.

I know because I saved them.
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>>175879706
POST
THEM
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>>175879613
Sign down
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>>175876390
yeah this is some grade A cancer
only counter I've found is running attacks that move a lot forward, so they can sort of run past you as they do the running attack, which makes lightning arrow miss
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kek proj heal really drives people fucking mad in the arena
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>>175880205
>playing in the arena ever
Did you fags learn nothing from DS2?
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>>175880537
the arena was fucking fantastic before spinny sword parrying became a thing
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>>175876390
>summoned for spear fight
>wait for him to get locked into any animation
>shoot him with a lightning arrow he can't avoid
>the only way to stop it is to kill me
>i have tears and projected heal and -30% equip weight
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What's the ultimate shitter build in ds3 right now?
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>>175880726
>-30% equip weight
>negative weight
*SWEAT*
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>>175880780
fuck i forgot - and < aren't the same
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>>175880754
twin greatswords and turn your lag switch on
otherwise 40/40 gael's greatsword
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>>175877378
>>175877383
http://imgur.com/a/ogvK2
The order is all out of whack because Imgur was being a shit and I can't be arsed to rearrange them.
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>>175880754
40 dex
40 strength
60 faith
18 att
talisman/sunlight talisman
sunlight straight sword
lightning arrow
lightning blade
projected heal
then do >>175876390
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>>175880889
thanks m8o
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Man shira has to be the biggest bullshit npc.
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>>175880616
The arena in 3 was fucking fantastic before DUGS and Projected Heal became a thing. All you cunts do is run each game into the ground and then complain. Fucking parasites.
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>>175881231
well, what's the fucking alternative?
invading xxxdarksasuke98xxx and his 3 phantoms?
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>>175881209
ironically she is a complete pushover with lightning arrow
just stay out of melee range and hold your lightning arrow until she starts drawing hers and shoot her
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>>175881231
DUGS?
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would you?
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>>175880950
So no vigor?
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>>175881294
Playing a different game.
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>>175881352
good, we're on the same page
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>>175881341
>sticc my dicc in the thicc
>illusion dispelled
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>>175881341
I would fuck her feet
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>>175880078
Sorry had to do something.I'm there now
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>>175881328
I just killed her with a rotten ghru dagger + lothric knight straight sword at sl 60. Killed me more than the spear of the church.
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>place white sign
>get summoned
>it summons me as a red instead
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>>175881341
no
her brother, maybe

nameless king, that is
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why isn't there an option to enable invasions in an area you've already defeated the boss in??
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>>175881343
vigor is for chumps
just run with something like this
maybe swap favor for chlo or another 5 level ring
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>>175881734
there was in 2, but miyazaki is fucking retarded
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>>175881734
Because Miyazaki ignored everything DS2 did right, and just made a bad DS1.
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>>175881593
All right, on my way again then.
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What was his endgame?
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>>175881231
Dual UGS is not even a good weapon. It's super easy to space, roll backstab or block. It's only in ganks where it becomes a problem.
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>>175881918
to fuck yo uwith his peepee
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>>175881967
>it's super easy to space its 10 feet of extra invisible range in every direction
yeah okay lol
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>>175881918
the linking of the fire
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i get assblasted when a Fagit with 2 blue fun police kill me then the Fagit does the point down move
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can you not parry gundyr's chump charge? the boss i mean.
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>get summoned for spear of the church
>its a guy and three fucking phantoms
>the guy actually dried fingered for spear of the church
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>>175881967
>It's super easy to space
>>175882051

>roll backstab
>player realizes he missed and rolls away

>or block
>implying you have enough stamina to take every one of those hits after the player's attack connects

Stack all this shit together with the constant ganks, and you get the early death of DS3's online. Have fun faggot.
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>Finally invade someone without a bunch of blues and suncucks doing all their legwork
>Start kicking his ass 1 on 1
>A connection error has occurred, returning to your world
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>>175881805
In 2 it wasn't an option
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>>175882504
bonfire ascetics
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Someone baby me through pyromancy.

Parting flame vs regular: I understand the jist for both, but whats the best overall? I'm gonna be using Chaos Orb/Vestiges a lot since they do the most damage

Weapon?: I'm gonna have really low STR/DEX, so whats a decent weapon I can infuse with chaos, or just a good weapon in general for pyros?
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>>175882412
>play 100x smarter than brain dead l1 smasher
>barely survive

hm...
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I summoned one phantom for my Spears fight. Thought we could have a more balanced bossfight where one dealt with the painting guardians and one with the boss.
And we did!
But I got fucking Halflight.
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>>175882576
>but whats the best overall?
you have two hands
you ever think about that?

>Weapon?
the fuck is that?
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>>175882432
my world my rules dumb invadercuck

you aren't the main character of this story :^)
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>>175882346
>player realizes he missed and rolls away
or he can just keep mashing l1 since everything has perfect tracking and backstabs are slow as molasses
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>>175882615
The player in the webm mashes L1 too
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>>175882667
holee, thats a good point

but i still need melee for when i run out of fp against bosses. I've finished AoA and just killed the Dancer
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>>175882576
Don't let anons talk you into running the meta one-trick pony build, you'll be bored to fucking tears
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>>175882245
The charge into the roundhouse swing when you're at a distance? You just have to hit L2 right when you see him transition from the charge into the swing. It's one of his easiest moves to parry.
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>>175882768
L2 actually
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>tfw IP range ban on /v/
what the fuck happened and why is it only on /v/
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>>175882770
Dark thrall axe. It's actually surprisingly good.
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>want to finish my low sl characters i made
>can't be bothered to run through the game alone after multiple complete runs
>co-op not fun because everyone only brings in sl 150s that makes it even more boring than if I were solo
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So who did this fat cunt eat, besides the femboy? Did he actually eat the grave lord?
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>>175883048
>Downscaling
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>>175883048
are you pc or ps4
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>there's a fucking sun in irithyll dungeon
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>Opponent starts running away from me in a duel
>Stand still and use a heal miracle
>He stops and looks at me
>Disconnects
>Get rage message saying i'm a no skill faggot etc.
If he wasn't running so far away, maybe he could have stopped me.
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>>175882798
i dont even know what that is
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>creightons set with Millwood helm
found my new favorite souls fashion.
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>>175883160
Means fuckall. Still have gigantic stamina and fp pools and defenses.
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>>175883160
Can't down scale stamina, vit, and end game spells.
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>>175880078
Thanks very much
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I'm gonna do it!
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>>175883368
Nobody would pw co-op at all if they couldn't bring all the shit they worked for on their build.
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>>175883393
nice no upgrade materials script
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So here's something I keep wanting to do.
>start cleric
>give it a name like "Pacifist Maiden" or "Escort NPC"
>from High Wall onwards, never have a weapon equipped, only a shield and a talisman/chime
>no damaging offensive miracles(Force can situationally be excused, if only to get invaders off your case)
>heals and buffs for your phantoms
>always embered
>always dried fingered
>rely solely on phantoms to progress
Is it madness? Will it ever work? Will phantoms just BC out in disgust?
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LOL!
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>>175883393
YOU MADMAN
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>>175883393
i didn't even know you could reinforce the torch wtf
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>>175883491
outplayed, entirely your fault
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>>175883487
wear desert pyromancer and slave knight and name yourself just "Escort"
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>>175883487
it will work, in my experience it helps to have one constant phantom who is guarding to you, while the other runs out and kills things
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>Invading in Dreg Heap
There is nothing more cruel and unusual. I'm saying that as someone who has done it.
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Will this affect me much for a dex katana "blade master" build:
-master's attire and gloves
-sage's blindfold
-worker's trousers??? (Open to suggestions)

Thinking of using the uchi since I don't have the dlc and the washing pole looks silly.

Pic related, that game was my childhood and that mob is my inspiration
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>>175883393
upgrade a broken straight sword to +10 then we'll talk
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>>175883471
I have sl 20, 30, 50, 70, 80, 100.

I can co-op almost anything without being down scaled.
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>>175882615
>barely survive
that's what faith is all about. Momma didn't raise no sissy sorcerer
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>>175883616
I want to actually play the game, not pander to your sad little fantasies, anon.
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ABOUT 2UGS

>in duels
IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
>in invasions
ABSOLUTE FUCKING CANCER, BOTH FOR THE INVADER AND FOR THE HOST'S PARTY.

that's it, end of discussion. now shut the fuck up about it
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>put points into int and faith for my pyro multi hit build
>changed it up cause it wasnt working
>realize i can use hidden weapon and chameleon against my friend who ultra spams me in duels
When did you realize the spell knight is the superior build?
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>tfw Weapon Level matching and unupgradable armor means I can't make an NPC Darkwraith build that's as fun as it was in 1
Feels pretty bad. That was far and away my funnest invasion experience.
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>>175883709
>wants to play the game
>by not having a weapon and literally letting phantoms play the game for him while sucking their cocks
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>>175883678
>Sage's Blindfold
>Master's Attire
>Sellsword Gauntlets
>Shadow Leggings
Black Blade to keep with the color scheme.
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>>175883601
excuse me for not knowing my attack would be off by 4 damage
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>>175883671
I'd be relying on summoning randoms though, not passworded friends.
I have no friends
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any ps4bros need help?
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>>175883719
>IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
still one shots
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>>175883846
Should have two-handed.
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>>175883393
>>175883537
Told you I would!

>>175883483
>scripting
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>>175883487
Its boring. I sent a nigga home using a fag build like that. It's not fun for certain builds and just makes everything harder.

What use do I have for heals as a glass canon mage or quick step bleed build?

Only time I would prefer that if I were using great weapons and face tanking bosses.
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>>175883814
It's a themed run anon, have you no idea how to have fun?
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>>175883825
I dig the gauntlets and legs, but I don't care about the sword's coloration too much, since it's so slim
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>>175883924
only if you have less than 800 hp.

https://my.mixtape.moe/qzkpvo.webm just do like webm related
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>>175883846
your attack did 29 pixels of his healthbar
he still had 7
that meant he still had around 60 hp
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>>175883982
I'd be the host. I'd be summoning phantoms to get me through the level, like an escort quest.
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>>175884034
>Black Blade
>slim
EXTRA THICC
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>>175883697
what kind of vitality are you rockin to wear all that heavy armor m8?
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>>175884080
>just be embered
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
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>>175883872
you have a whole general full of friends
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>>175884173
that's 20vit with fap+3
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>>175884121
So i have even less health and fp and I'm supposed to carry you as a caster? No thanks.

Some may like it but I would leave every time.
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>>175883672

The bit with 10,000 spooky archers is probably worse. Half the time I don't do anything and just collect tongues.
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>dark hand and sword arnt paired for sweet combos with health succ
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>>175884452
don't knock it until you try it, it actually is a great deal of fun. I escorted someone from this general through most of DLC2, all they did was heal and cast force/wotg
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>>175884303
don't trade against it, retard
pack ranged weapons in the game, crossbows exist so even melee builds can have a fast projectile
embered or not i wouldn't have died from one L1>L1 because it deals 800 damage tops.
roll backwards twice if you get hit by L1>L1, don't try to punish it or you'll get roll caught.
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Has anyone else run into this torch wielding cunt of an Aldrich faithful on pc? This guy just runs around your world wearing nothing but a archdeacon hat, twohanding a torch, and annoying the fuck out of you. I was trying to get past the silver knights when this fucker kicks me off the roof.
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can the burgers wake up/get back from work and breath some life into the thread please and thank you
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>>175884362
>thinking there is anyone in /dsg/ worth being friends with
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>>175881918
To find more dudes to set on fire

My theory is that letting the Fire go out leads to the Age of Dark, but linking the Fire repeatedly until everything is fucked leads to the Age of Ancients because you're basically just taking energy out of the metaphorical pendulum until it stops moving completely, rather than constantly shifting between two sides of the same coin, Fire and Dark.

That's why hollows are turning into Archtrees and Pus of Man in DaS3, and why the Pilgrims of Londor (Who still have Humanity, the Dark Soul) are metamorphising into Everlasting Dragons, and also why the landscape seems to be growing grey and barren.

Frampt was either deluded, or a Dragonfag the whole time.
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>>175884452
Well, that's fair, of course. If you BC'd out I wouldn't resummon you. It's not everyone's idea of fun -- but as I said, it is just meant for fun.
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>>175884080
I think it says a lot about the weapon you had to pull that to beat it instead of just fighting it with a regular weapon.
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What's your favorite UGS and why is it pic related?
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post weaponfus
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>>175884694
Yeah a +9 arbalest is really hard to get and to use
>some weapons have winning matchups and some weapons have losing matchups
what an alien concept!!
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>>175884696
I like the greatsword. I prefer the overheads since it makes shock waves, has more range and the patch made the greatsword do the damage it should now
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>>175884560
>I was trying to get past the silver knights when this fucker kicks me off the roof.

Sounds like you got OUT. FUCKING. SKILLED.
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If I'm going to make a bow build, should I use the arrows with higher damage with magic and shit or will the split damage nullify any bonuses?
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>>175884080
What actually happens if the player boss BCs out? Does he get replaced by Halflight or something?
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>/dsg/ is still assblasted about DUGS
>"waaahh I can't run up and HA trade like a fucking chimp"
>nerf this!!!!!!
back
the
fuck
up

play with a brain for 3 seconds and you'll destroy any STR weapon user
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>>175884834
>not cathedral knight UGS for that sweet strike damage
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>>175882248
I wish you got to act more like a boss as Spear.

Increase character size and all hitboxes by 30-40%, but reduce active damage frames a little to prevent stunlocking. Increase HP by 500%. Get additional rewards/souls for actively engaging in combat rather than avoiding it.
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>>175884797
I mean how you were too scared to try and use a melee weapon against it.
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>>175884858
Yeah, halflight comes in with the amount of health the player that just left had.
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>>175884543
I know a lot of them are retarded but not all of them
there's plenty of them that simply don't attack
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>>175884842
I wouldn't be mad if IT didn't invade my world all last nights and fuck me up somehow. Even went after me when I was fighting the pontiff beasts and got my ass killed multiple times
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>>175884897
but HA retard play beats DUGS
it's the dinky dex weapons that get fucked
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>>175884897
its even more braindead than that

>equip crossbow
>keep distance
>shoot when they swing

so hard
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>>175884926
why would i trade with a great weapon with a longsword? are you braindead? why would you ever do that? seriously

>>175884946
you have 99 bolts and a bunch of shit to throw at him, if he doesn't commit he loses because one of those is bound to hit him.
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>>175884897
>implying everyone's build uses a big weapon that has enough HA to trade hits with
The only one without a brain is you, Miyazaki. Your game is shit by the way.
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>>175885005
>but HA retard play beats DUGS
confirmed dexfag who never played str build
the L1 combos from the DUGS hit twice you fucking retard, stuns almost any HA
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>>175884897
It's really telling that most of /dsg/ thinks hyper armor weapons are meta when the best is clearly sword and board, especially on a Dark build. I wish the players from here were better... I still like all of them though
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>>175885049
>game turns into throwing contest rather than fighting
jesus
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>>175884906
>Increase HP by 500%

Nnnnnnnnnnno.

A powerful boss with a fat health pool is only beatable because they follow identifiable patterns and don't adjust their strategy intelligently. A human player at the helm would be unbeatable unless the boss form also made you super slow or something.
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>>175885064
>stomp
>perseverance
stop posting
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>>175884785
You already posted it, but also Black Knight Greataxe ever since DaS1
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>>175885105
I guess.
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>>175885085
if you don't like it, just black crystal out :^)
or complain on dsg because you can't use your brains and rather just mash r1
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Guys, I'm playing as a pyro for the first time, what should I level and what's a good starting weapon?
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>>175884080

>He BC'd

kek. I use an Avelyn myself on my melee centric build, it's kind of amazing how underused crossbows are in general. I've literally won entire fights with just splintering/explosive bolts, and nailed countless runners/healers.
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>>175884989
Why do you keep progressing while embered then?

This isn't DS2, you can prevent invasions pretty easily.
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>>175884906
Honestly I think that would ruin it. The best part of it is that it's essentially just a duel that feels like it has a lot more impact, like a boss.
The atmosphere with the music and all creates that feeling, as well as Argo yelling at you to fucking make haste.
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Why did the nameless king go be gay with dragons?
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>>175885074
>I wish the players from here were better... I still like all of them though
the problem is no one is allowed to try
if you win too much you're a tryhard metafag regardless of what you're using
some of them are actually pretty decent when they take the training wheels off
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>>175881841
>everything DS2 did right

Like what?

DS2 was a failure by every single measure.

DS2fags are the worst. Kill yourselves.
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>>175885253
because dragons are cool nigga why would you not join them
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>>175885049
>trade

I didn't mean trade. You had a GA and you were too scared to fight 2ugs with it. You also were too scared to fight against it by trying to not trade and just use a fast weapon. Yes, crossbows are a legit counter to it, but when by default people are all too scared to use any melee weapon to fight it, there's a big issue there.
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>>175882940
No i need more options. I need you to make my decision for me

The demon scar looks kinda cool
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Could somebody post a picture of the black knight chest with lorian's leggings?
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>>175884539
I have tried it. It's not fun. They are almost never fast enough to heal me before I use estus.

The fights drag on for too long because they don't contribute any damage to help.
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I don't get how to upgrade weapons past +5 on Dark souls 1. Can Andre receive all embers? Cos I haven't had a single ember as of yet that Andre didn't receive. I assume that you can waste embers by giving them to Andre not other specialized blacksmiths like the skelly guy or the cuck locked up in New londo?

Do certain weapon classes specialize in certain weapon upgrades??
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>>175885298
I used the greataxe to oneshot the painting guardian, I don't use greataxes, specially yhorms because of retarded shockwaves.

It's not a question of being scared. If rock beats scissors and loses to paper, why would you keep using scissors if your opponent keeps using rock? Just switch to paper. Then it's on him to switch or not.
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>>175885253
I don't know, but I just realized the game's story seems to have a lot of people shirking their duties and obligations.
All the lords of cinder abandon their thrones, Lothric doesn't want to continue the fire, Nameless king fucked off to fuck drago. There are probably more examples too.
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>>175885285
>ignoring ascetics
>ignoring respeccing
>ignoring best fashion and build variety
Oh but nah you're right DS2 was a failure by every single measure. Fuck off Miyazakuck.
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>>175884851
lightning arrow
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>>175884594
>>175881918
Age of Ancients (forever limbo/purgatory) > Age of Fire (temporary progress) > Age of Dark (forever decay)

Gwyn fucked things up and ended the age of ancients because he wanted to be powerful.

Option a: Try to make the Age of Fire permanent
Option b: Try to make the Age of Dark not decay
Option c: Try to hold the dark off long enough to resurrect the dragons

Frampt chose A, Kaathe chose B, Aldia chose C.
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>>175885437
get the ember from the depths and the one in new londo
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>>175885306
My pyro uses standard pyro flame in left hand, swappable with a small parry shield. Right hand swaps between dark thrall axe and chaos Lothric knight straight sword.
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>>175885138
>Black Knight Greataxe
>Dark Souls 2

hahaha
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>>175885502
Ludleth nor the firekeeper shirk their duties though. Andre too. He'll even make you a dark weapon.
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>>175885216
>>175885023
What's better the arablast or avelyn
>>
Any reliable ways to make a fun pyro build at lower levels? Seems like you need too many lategame weapons and spells but by the time you reach them, you're outside of the 20-60 SL sweetspot.
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>>175883746
>hidden weapon

what did he mean by this?
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>>175885689
>people allied with the ashen one don't abandon their duties
>all the bad guys do
hmmm, we're on to something
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>>175885519
Daily reminder you can dodge lightning arrows by simply strafing, dont do what that retard did in the webm.
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>>175885668
And if you want my spell loadout too, it's GCFO/black flame/sacred flame/boulder heave
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>>175885860
Champ didn't forsake his duty, he just got dumpstered.
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took me literally one evening to get max rank in all arena modes
they didn't really think this through, did they
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>>175883804
>i can't twink so i can't have fun

is this what you are saying?

dark sword and dark hand are both much better in ds3 idk what you want.
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>>175885519
wow a twink killing noob nights in woods, i'm so impressed.
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>Put blood infused notched whip as the secondary weapon on my Kirk cosplay just for fun
>Weapon art is actually proving itself to be super useful
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can force combo with anything?
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Just arrived in Irithyll, sl44

Would I fuck myself out of co-op and invasion by taking my SSS to +5 at this level?
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>>175885706
cathedral knight crossbow says it has the highest damage so i use that
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>>175883746
I'm working on it. Just waiting for my new controller.
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>>175885537
But Frampt would surely know that the AoF cannot be made permanent and that even the 'Set dudes on fire' strategy gets intense diminishing returns.

I think my theory still makes more sense. The signs are all there in DaS3, we're literally seeing the breaking of the Light - Dark cycle and the start of the return to the Age of Ancients, which literally nobody wants because it sucks. Both Light and Dark represent movement, progress in a direction. AoA is just sort of a forever of nothing until the not!Big Bang happens again and whatever entities survived the End can restart the Age of Fire.

>>175885437
Vinheim dude does Magic and Enchanted, Giant does Lightning and Crystal, Skellybro does Fire and Chaos, Andre does everything else.
>>
why do people hack in these games?
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>>175886101
I really like your fashion and your build

never stop posting.
>>
if linking the fire makes you a lord of cinder then why is lothric, who refused to link the fire, a lord of cinder
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>>175886178

same reason people pirate. Because they can. Give people the option to do something, they usually will.
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>>175886158
>sl44 with max upgraded weapon
what do you think ?
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>>175886178
dark souls community is kinda poisoned by the "git gud" mentality. winning means they "got gud", by all means necessary. or just to make you post on taiwanese knitting boards
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>>175885671
>Implying I played Dark Souls 2 for more than 5 hours
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>>175886101
Is there anything more cancerous than this?
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>>175885968
Pretty much what I'm saying, yeah, though it's more reliant on the armor and old poise than anything else. There was a screencap of the guide somewhere but I don't have it. You used to slow walk at hosts all the time and do the vertical, spinning r2s a lot. You enchanted your weapon with Magic or whatever to make sure you don't just two-shot them, and just acted like a big, burly, highly defensive mini-boss while pretending to just be an NPC invader. Shit was pretty fun honestly. I miss it.
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>>175885671
it's not like it's ever been particularly good
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>>175886194
His setup is ugly as fuck but I do enjoy his webms, hes bretty gud.
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>>175886170
wrong
arbalest has the highest AR, only losing to avelyn, but avelyn shoots 3 bolts at a time so the damage is shared, you have to hit all 3 bolts to make similar damage

it goes like this
arbalest >= avelyn > heavy crossbow > knight crossbow > light crossbow > gael's crossbow
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>>175884903
strike damage was only good in knight souls 2
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>>175886170
Arbalest isn't the Cathedral Knight crossbow, that's the Heavy Crossbow.

The Arbalest is the crossbow that those cunts on the rooftop gauntlet use.
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>>175886441
setup as in graphical quality?
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>>175886158
yes
SSS counts for double
so if you've already got a +4 it counts as +8.
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>>175884903
Greatsword still does more damage even against heavy armed foes
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>>175886158
You should stop at +3 until you clear Irithyll. Fully upgraded weapons are for DLC and the very last segment of the game.
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>>175886382
>You enchanted your weapon with Magic or whatever to make sure you don't just two-shot them

why didn't you just leave it unupgraded
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>>175886529
No his fashion, onion shit only goes with onion shit he looks silly.
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>>175886303
>hurr git gud

no it's actually because some people are just assholes who get off ruining other people's good time
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>invading
>host summons blue with a saint bident
>can't land any parries
>use up all estus trying to parry faggot spear user
>black crystal mid-pursuit with 1/3 health bar left and no estus
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Should I use onislayer arrows for sniping or just try to do well with the normal greatarrows?
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>>175886606
I don't know nigga I didn't make the guide, and I hated 4Kidz enough when I had to do it on a normal character let alone not trying to do it on a low-level build so I can still invade at the Drake Bridge, so I wasn't really in the mood to test anything out.
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>>175886854
you lost, good job
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>>175886756
>>175886303
>>175886178
I have hundreds of hours in ds3 and haven't seen a single hacker even once.
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>>175885285
Some things DS2 did better than DS1:
>All infusions are actually useful during normal playthrough, and PvP, for at least a few weapons
>Faith and Int can also have melee scaling on any weapon without a huge damage nerf
>Faith or Int gives you 3 different elemental options
>Scaling and buffs work the same for all 4 elements, no one dominant elemental type
>Bonfire Ascetics
>Power stance and late-level scaling gives a reason to level a stat up to 60+
>variable roll distances and iframes
>different armor actually looks good when combined
>throwing knives, poison,
>no "choose your own difficulty" path restrictions in early game (skeletons / ghosts)
>matchmaking that actually worked
>torch mechanics that were actually useful in almost every area
>shield breaking ripostes
>weapon angling is reasonable and depends on moveset now
>cloth physics
>an actual lighting engine
>soul vessels
>moveset combos
>new NG+ content
>strength variations of dex class weapons, dex variations of strength class weapons
>No ember hunting
>Duel arenas that actually worked
>TWICE THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT
>OST that actually sounds different for each boss
>Better fps and resolution, but runs great on lower hardware
>doesn't require third party fixes just to be able to play

The list goes on

Most of the people I know that passionately hate DS2 only played DS1 and no other From Soft games and were just confused that it wasn't a direct sequel. They were expecting literally DS1 2.0 not a new fucking game.
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>>175886854
The salty BC is always better than an actual kill reward
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>>175884034
Just checked. Gauntlets have a big metal fist. Might still work. Firekeeper and worker gloves might too.
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>>175886907
same, but i've seen two

one invisible guy with a greatbow (it wasn't obscuring ring)

and one guy who cursed me
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>>175886871
Depends on the distance.
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>>175886871
Onislayer greatarrows are only useful for extreme ranges where the damage falloff would make normal greatarrows do shit damage. They also can't stagger for shit.
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>>175886907
good for you, buddy.
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>>175887039
How is it that the same?

I haven't seen even one single hacker
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>>175887175
>I have hundreds of hours in ds3

retard
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>>175886427
It was a high/top tier PvP weapon in DS1. Huge reach, high damage, insanely good moveset. The only downside to it was the 18 dex requirement.
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>>175887169
what is this webm supossed to prove?
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>>175887230
>seen 2 hackers is the same as seeing 0 hacker

Hmmmm
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>>175887169
>>
>greatswords
>meta
how disgusting
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>>175887346
If some noob kills me they must be hacking
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>>175887372
>same, but

HMMMMMMMMMM
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>>175887372
he meant same as in same amount of hours, and the but to say that the amount of hackers encounters differentiates

do you not get this or do u just want to be that wow epic guy who wins arguments on the internet
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>>175886946
>>an actual lighting engine

I was skipping through your post and saw this, I still can't believe it. I thought it would be a serious post from a Dark Souls 2 fan but it seems it's just a parody.
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>>175886427
u wot m8

BKGA was aces in 1, and it's still aces in 3 even if it's outclassed by other things. All the BK weapons have great movesets that makes up for the lack of pure numbers.
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>>175883393
I upgrade my torch to +10 every run, as well as my storm ruler. I dunno I'm autistic
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>>175886353
yes. If I see another one, I'm gonna bring my own

>>175886441 >>175886194
>I prefer my catarina knights chunky
well, thanks anyway
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>>175881497
Woah anon, thats really lewd, I'll have you know that I'd do the exact same thing
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>>175887494
>>175887492
>it's the same but not really so I'll just say it's the same teee heee
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LKGS or caestus for SL25 invasion build?
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>>175887346
speed hacking, or do you think the 1HR1 from curved GS have that much momentum?
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>>175887719
Bleed / Poison infused Caestus
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>>175887306
>>175887610
nah, BKGA was popular before it got slammed by the nerf bat
after that it just became borderline unusable parry bait
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Level 80 is for tryhards
Level 120 is for sheep/normalfags
Level 135 is for fun
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take him back, we dont want him
>>175885296
>>175885665
>>175887067
>>175887689
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>>175887406
1000x folded blade clean cutting through gaijin flesh. What is the issue here?
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>>175887734
Speedhack, you can't poke that fast.
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>>175887875
the issue is that's not a katana
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Is there a better feeling than making an invader kill another invader accidentally while trying to hit you?
>finger up to let blues fight for ears
>blues get shat on
>invaders try to gank me
>ones a mage sitting back spamming magic
>other one rushes me
>smack him right as he comes close
>mage fires soul spear
>roll
>he dies
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>>175887875
that's a carthus cringe sword, not a nihontō.
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>>175887734
Out fucking skilled. Noob even tried to sip lol
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>>175887567
It's not a good lighting engine but at least it exists.

The way DS1's lighting changes when you go from one area to the next is fucking awful

I'd rather take DS2's lighting and just turn the in-game brightness to 0 (which is literally the best way to play the game) over DS1's lighting.
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>>175887406
Master race, guys! Only fifteen hackers in XXX hours!!!
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>>175886427
It's hidden OP in 3. It has huge AR, and it's attacks are MUCH faster than any other weapon in it's class. It's R2 has an insanely quick windup for something that is delivering as much power as it is.
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>This place marks our grave. You may rest here too, if you like.

Any other bosses bring the banter like Lothric?
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>>175887406
W-what is happening?
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>>175888248
hacker bumping the attack of his weapon so that it kills in one hit
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>>175888214
Can it fight the fugs

>>175888239
Shira shit talks you before the fight like shes from the hood.
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>>175887941
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>>175888365
FUGS is like half the speed.

Seriously, equip BKGA and check out it's R2. It's both incredibly quick and specifically designed to rollcatch. The WA R2 even more so.
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So is it agreed that all of these weapons are parry bait? what would you add to the list? Anything that are sure parries?

-Farron Memesword anime attack
-astora greatsword charge
-gundyr halberd charge
-halberds
-estocs/rapiers
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>>175888314
You got hit twice though
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>>175888214
it also drains you out of stamina in 3 r1s, it has no range and its swing speed isn't particularly impressive
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>>175888469
Doest fume have twice the reach
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>>175888484
Drang Twinspears
DSGA WA
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>>175884785
DS1:Zweihander
DS2:Greatsword
DS3:Fume Ultra Greatsword

Inb4: Compensation
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>>175888239
why does he say that when he knows i'm undead and i'm 100% coming back to fuck him in the ass after getting this far

also why don't bosses react to point down gesture
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>>175887346
fucker literally teleported behind him
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>>175888707
How does the FUGs even win against other great weapons?
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>>175888707
t. dicklet
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Is Spear of the Church dead? I was hoping to get a boss or 2 today
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>>175888946
>Spear of the Church
>unplug ethernet cable

Good covenant.
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>>175888840
when you gimp yourself you tend to become better to compensate

like how people in wheelchairs have super ripped arms.
fugs is like that, a wheelchair man with ripped arms.
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>>175884785
She may not be perfect but I still love her!
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>>175888840
>>175888872
>>175888996
Idk man u can eat 80% of someones hp with a succesful r1 combo, the rollR1 is really good imo.
I just like the moveset and the fact that it's the biggest weapon in the game, and that i'm the only one using it.
And if it makes me a dicklet with ripped arms i'll take it.
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>>175889278
CACULATED
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>>175889146
You're a lucky man, anon. Not everyone's weaponfus makes them FP
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>>175889252
But doesn't their combo also do 80% or more to you?
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>>175889252
>tfw armlet with huge dick and i will never be as cool as you
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>>175889389
yeah. but the FUGS is really good at zoneing IMO.

I also like how in group pvp they think you're shit because u use FUGS so when u bait them into trying to backstab u by r1ing someone else, they dont even fucking realise your r1 can combo backwards, and then u can follow up that 2nd r1 with a third r1 to further punish them.
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>tfw bows will never get the damage buff'
they deserve
>tfw arrows will never get the speed buff they deserve
>tfw you will never be able to launch greatarrows as fast as silver knights can
Why From, why?
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Hey, someone give me a fun start for Dark Souls
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>>175886946

Both DaS and DaS2 had bad infusions. In DaS, you get free damage simply by using an elemental ascension. In DaS2 the elemental weapons were simply better than normal ones. I'm not sure what you mean by huge damage nerf on FTH and INT weapons, DaS had good scaling on weapons like Grant or MLGS. More damage options for magic builds is not good, it reduces specialisation. Besides, DaS also had elemental weapons that provided free elemental damage to any build. The normalised scaling made it easier to understand how the infusions worked, but again it reduced build identity. I don't think this is good or bad, just different.

Bonfire Ascetics were good, you could increase the difficulty of an area to gain extra items, a well balanced risk reward choice. Same thing with powerstance, slower attacks but you do more damage.

I don't think anyone can or should defend how rolls worked in DaS2. They were terribly implemented. There's no visual clue about the iframes. The variable distance makes it difficult to judge if you're going to avoid an attack or not, unless you always roll with the same equipment load. This is especially true when the iframes also vary a lot. Fashion Souls is highly subjective, DaS1 looked good as well.

I'm not sure what you mean by throwing knives, but poison made more sense in DaS2. It takes forever to kill enemies with poison in DaS. The reason hard areas are missing in early game DaS2 is because your weapons do more damage unupgraded. I have played through the game with unupgraded weapons which is something I would never do in DaS.
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>>175885902
then anyone that isn't trash will aim manually
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What's best:
-uchigatana
-black blade
-washing pole
-chaos blade
-darkdrift
-those twin katanas
-frayed blade
-that shitty mound maker katana
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>>175889641
What do you mean? Use your words.
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>>175886946
>>175889658

The matchmaking code in DaS2 is really the best we have ever got, this is true. The torch was made useless by the removal of the original lighting engine. Shield break riposes are stupid, DaS already had a mechanic called instability damage for guard breaks. A lot of players didn't like "weapon angling", it's one of the things that makes DaS2 feel so sluggish. It feels like you have to force your character to do things.

Cloth physics were good eye candy, no denying that. The lighting engine was severely scaled down, I would go as far as saying it was removed. Soul Vessels were a good addition for people who want to only do PvP. I'm not sure what you mean by moveset combos, because DaS2 actually REMOVED moveset combos which were in DeS and DaS. The extra NG+ content was interesting, and made the game feel fresh again. The STR "DEX" weapons and DEX "STR" was a bad idea, because again, it reduces build identity. Everyhing plays the same. Removing embers was good, but it was replaced by hunting Estus upgrades. Duel arenas: see my comment on matchmaking. The problem with the duel arenas was that they were mandatory.

DaS2 has a lot of content, it's true. I liked the OST, many others didn't, again it's subjective. DaS2 runs great, even my ten year old laptop can run it while DaS is unplayable. DaS2 does require third party fixes. If you're playing with a controller the deadzone fix is required for comfortable play, if you're playing with KB+M you'll need to use an AHK script for binds and to fix the double clicking bug.
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>>175889748
washing pole > chaos blade > the other trash
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>>175889748
washing pole
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>>175889748
frayed then wp and 2kat
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>>175889641
I just started the other day, by buying ds3. Them again, I'm on pc, so that's the best ported title.
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longer recovery time would balance LA perfectly
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>>175889748
26/70 Frayed Blade
20/70 Pole
16/80 O&U
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>>175889641
what do you mean?
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>>175889758
Like a starting class+build path? I usually just pick up some random fuck weapon and use nothing else for a whole playthrough, so I've only gone through the game with Broadsword, Zwei, and Warpick. Looking for a new way to play through Dark Souls

>>175889916
I was talking about the first game, but we can talk about fun starting builds in the other games too.
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today i learned scythes do massive damage
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>>175889874
>>175889865
Why the WP? It has only b dex scaling for sharp
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>>175884785
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>>175890070
range
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>>175890070
because it's 10 feet long nigger what do you think
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>>175890069
Did you think they tickle?
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>>175890027
Ok. I just went with knight because that seemed like "the balanced one". I'm gonna use mama rosaria to restat soon to a dex at sl 70
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>>175888049
It's not the lightning that changes in Dark Souls 1 suddenly, it's the postprocessing.
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>>175890069
People laughed at me for using scythes during release. Guess who's laughing now?
Not me because I stopped using scythes after release.
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>>175890118
>>175890147
So for pvp it and the frayed are the best. How about pve?
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>>175890081
>kumo has always been my weaponfu
>for DS3 they just decide to add a STR equivalent which is really just a version that's better in every single way
cool
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>>175889780
>Shield break riposes are stupid

no they aren't

fuck you
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>>175889707
thats when you roll and close the distance
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>>175890069
ONLY 12 HACKERS IN 600 HOURS
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>>175890289
Frayed blade deals massive damage in both pvp and pve.

These guys don't understand how strong the weapon art really is and I don't want to say too much or some reddit fag will post it for up boats.
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>>175890315

Not only that but AGS has the exact same base stats but with better scaling

So even if you're still insistent on using a dex scaling greatweapon, there are better alternatives.

Not that I mind too much, AGS is a sexy weapon
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>>175890319

They are, you do one thing and you're rewared with disproportionally high damage. There's no timing or skill involved.
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>>175884785
DS1: Claymore
DS2: Targray's Halberd
DS3: Gundyr's Halberd
Bloodborne: Hunter Axe
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>>175890665
>he can't dodge kicks or stance R1s on reaction
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>>175888946
Well I did the boss at sl 60 with a +6 weapon earlier today and I got a player summoned in so I guess not?
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>>175890665
>no timing or skill involved
except it's not a guarantee, there is sufficient windup to dodge it if your paying attention, stop holding L1 like your life depends on it. Dark souls 3 does the same thing with kicks anyway
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>>175890665
more like you make one huge mistake of blocking with no stamina and you get fucked because you're a retard

1 hit of extra damage isn't enough punishment for literally ignoring your stamina bar
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does anyone else feel like there's just too much stuff in das2? can never bring myself to commit to a full playthrough because i end up burnt out by the end of the first dlc
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>>175890319
>I can only capitalize on critical damage
Punishing shield turtling with deadangling > break riposte
despite shields being extremely powerful in dark souls 1 no one ever actually complained about them because no one thought they were any kind of problem. with das2 and 3, they've just been widely discarded entirely by players because they were nerfed too much.
>>175890665
this, you can bang on someone's shield all day and you're not going to break it unless they're retarded and they're free to keep turtling. and then they try to block in random spot while you try a gamble attack and bam, guard break so out of nowhere you're not even gonna react to it in time which isn't very hard.
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best str weapon that isn't the RKPGS or GGS
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>>175890665
>>175890319
I never got hit by ds2 kick even once. It's so easy to just walk backwards from it.
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>>175890821
Too much shit in bad zones.
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>invade
>die to 2v1
>phantom bows at the end like it was some kind of respectable duel
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>>175890665
nah fuck off mate

I bet you'd love to go back to DaS1 where the only way to stop someone from turtling was to dead angle which wasn't even a fucking intended game mechanic
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>>175890797
>>175890813
you got it backwards. it's way too hard to intentionally cause and happens too easily unexpected to both players.
>>175890927
no one was ever hit by it.
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>>175891017
>3v1 some red cuck
>he dies within 30 seconds
>spam "Very good!" on him
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>>175891083
>no one was ever hit by it.
now that's where you're wrong
inb4 gud players
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>>175891017
Would you rather have them point down or applaud? Bowing is the next best thing they can do after waving really, assuming they want to minimize the salt. Most invaders will be buttblasted either way. Just ignore gestures and rather make their co-op time a living hell next time.
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>>175883048
I really want to play a new character but not really.
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Is the Moonlight Greatsword any good in DaS3?
What are some other good melee weapons for int builds?
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>>175891017
would you have preferred this?
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i just roll-catched a guy 5 times in a row lads
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anyone else feel that this was just thrown in randomly at the end
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>>175891146
>gud players
you mean people not borderline disabled by their stupidity
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>>175891196
>lads

oy did u wet ur skivvies m8
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>>175891161
I always do proper bow because it looks good
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>>175891240
that's roughly 90% of dark souls players, though. so yeah, a lot of people get hit by the shield slap
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rollin for the character generator.
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>>175883719
this
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>>175891179
Does being down voted in game really trigger people?
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>>175891083
>no one was ever hit by it.
Tell that to all the turtle fags I destroyed. Seeing them get stunned was so satisfying, not to mention blowing the fuck out of their HP bar.
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I have a hard time placing it but Dark Souls 3's atmosphere is very reminiscent of something, I don't know what it is. But it's got a great atmosphere nonetheless, not as strong atmosphere as in Bloodborne but good atmosphere nonetheless.
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>>175891176
Long sword. Tired of seeing this same question all the time.

>>175891196
Webms
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>>175891304
point down has always been the most salt inducing gesture
even well what is it was too silly to make people mad, let alone after it achieved meme status
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>>175884785
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>>175891332
Halloween Town, without music.
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is there any significance to the big grave in firelink shrine in gundyr's arena? it has a big tree growing out of it
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>>175884694
You don't actually have to anon, he's just making a point of how bad a 2ugs user can have it in a duel

it's just a gank weapon
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>>175891047

DaS turtling was not strong because the game didn't have guardbreak ripostes, it was strong because there was no easy access to high stamina damage for all builds.
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>>175891304
I think at this point people know it's just done to generate salt so they don't seem to let it get to them. The only hatemail I've ever received on 3 - including when I was trying to get some - was when I started doing Pray over defeated invaders on my Faith build. For some reason that got one or two people booty bothered enough to send me some shit.
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>>175891501
>easy access to high stamina damage for all builds

Did you even play? Kick and especially black flame destroyed shields.
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>>175891285
>>175891306
you mean people who never pvp and got caught by the mechanic because they literally didn't know about it
people who pvp rarely if ever shield turtle because just rolling and running is more effective anyways so the move becomes useless in typical pvp
kick in das1 was not useless. the one in 3 is also better thought still pretty benign.
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>>175891501
NOTHING had relevant stamina damage
you could fucking bang on a medium shield with a zwei until you ran out of stamina and they still wouldn't get guard broken
the only things that worked were combustion-like pyromancies and that shit is so telegraphed you can make a coffee and then roll away
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>>175891465
It's Yhorm the Giant's grave. If you look at the opening cinematic he and the others wake up in the cemetary of Ash basically.
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>>175891650

Kicks don't do much stamina damage to high stability shields. Black flame was good, but again only useful against low stablility shields. If you spam it you'll quickly run out unless you're a specialised build.
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>>175890665
>They are, you do one thing and you're rewared with disproportionally high damage. There's no timing or skill involved.
The same could be said for someone who holds L1 to avoid a disproportionately high amount of damage. It's not a matter of "testing your sick guardbreaking skills," it's a matter of shields actually having some semblance of a weakness to balance them out. I'd rather people weren't locked into animations but the damage itself is fine.
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>>175891651
Kick in DS1 was just as slow as shield breaking was in 2. No reason to shield break in 1 anyway since you can't riposte it, and the shield broken player can recover instantly.
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if only this was a combo
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>>175891650
flame destroys absolutely everything that doesn't roll backwards when they see it cast
I love it and I hate how retarded people are when trying to deal with it because all you do is reaction roll backwards. I find it best used on left hand though because if you can't mix it up it becomes too easy to dodge.
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>>175891820
there was no reason not to have 16 casts of black flame, specially with it being 12 attn required
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Is The Ringed City the most beautiful area in the whole series?
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>>175891850

The stagger from guard break is long enough to get one hit in from a fast weapon or to position yourself behind them and bs.
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>>175891459
I just had the best laugh I've had in ages. Cheers anon
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>>175889748
pole unless your opponent knows you're going to use a katana, in which case frayed is better

For the record, frayed only has 5 more dark damage than resin, and it doesn't scale. As far as damage and reach go it's worse than a resin'd washing pole, the only reason to use over the pole is the weaponart.
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>>175875943
Thanks for telling me. I guess Lobos saw the warning example with what happened with enb and the chinklet he married.
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playing DaS3, an onion knight helped me kill a fire demon and then I used a homeward bone without fully exploring the area. Is it possible to get back to that area? the lift doesn't go up anymore and I feel like I missed a bunch of items
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>>175892072
>the lift doesn't go up anymore
oh, that's adorable

use your brain, anon
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>>175891832
everything else in das2 is different speed than in das1, the shield poke should have been as well
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>>175892072
>the lift doesn't go up anymore
you managed to solve that "puzzle" without actually figuring out how to make the lift go up?
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>>175892072
yeah, you have to use your head and think!
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>>175892150
was to >>175891850
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So now youtubers are making videos on the saint bident because of the weapon tier list
>>
and now we wait.

gank-shitters are known to wait autistically long in these kinds of situations so it may take a while boys
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>>175892251
where's the latest tierlist anyways?
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>>175892281
sleep tight, man
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>>175891960
Black flame could be poised through and back stabbed but usually bugged out
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>>175892148
>>175892176
>>175892181

i have no idea what is going on
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>>175892281
dumb grape
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>>175892251
really now
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i've never done a pure strength build or a pure dex build, which one should i do? Dex seems fun but strength seems like it has more potential, especially if i do the morion blade/RTSR nonsense
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>>175887847
What kind of autism is this, and I mean on both sides. You faglords are were still responding even if you're not linking.
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>>175892281
just white branch, hide in bumfuck nowhere and go make a coffee or something
it's not worth it
>>
Anyone on ps4 want to play?
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>>175892483
if i white branch will i get disconnected for lack of input?
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>>175892447
Pure STR
The weapons are a lot funner
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>>175891882
Is the Force + WoG combo as good as it looks? It makes me want to try a faith caster.
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>>175892447
pure dex is pretty shit and very hard to play this time around
str is currently masterrace, the only things you'll be missing out on are katanas
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are there any comfy experimental playthroughs of dark souls 3 like enb's old dark days videos?
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How the FUCK am I supposed to hit anybody with this fucking greatbow?
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>>175892546
no
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>>175892251

Like tipped over dominoes I swear.

>>175892302
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>>175892387
eh, pretty far from any kind of hard counter. you have to be one-frame precise or have at least 61 poise, you take relatively heavy damage, if they have 45dex you have a good chance of getting hit twice by it and no one has 121 poise required to tank through that.
it can work if they're just carelessly spamming it but walking into the flames is rarely a good idea. especially not when you could just bait them into casting it and running out of casts or getting bored.
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You guys weren't kidding, lvl 60 is pretty fun for invasions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bab-WeVg-7I
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>get invaded by the Central Irithyll Bonfire by some guy in a Kirk Cosplay
>say fuck it and run back to the bonfire so there's no hope of me losing anything
>wave hello and everything
>fight a bit
>we're both super low so I back off and chug
>he beckons at me
>get the sinking feeling he thought it was a duel
>feel guilty
I ended up letting him back up to chug without trying to pressure him but I still felt bad. I'm no honorfag since I don't really PvP but I wish there was some uniform way of saying "I don't want to duel I just want to survive" so this shit doesn't happen. And I wish I wasn't such a faggot who cared about this asinine shit either.
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>>175892771
hate how the top weapon variety's been just getting worse with patches

why does no developer understand the concept "buff everything else"?
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>>175892281
i finally got a friend and he died in 2 seconds
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>>175892907
Right? I'm currently running Aldrich Faithful and the invasions are fucking constant.
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>>175892997
>get summoned as a darkmoon
>locate the invader
>he just stares at me
>comes closer
>flippity flop on him and take almost all his health
>he tries to fatroll away
>put him out of his misery

I understand what you mean, sometimes pvp makes you feel like an asshole.
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>>175892932

How does he do it? All these crazy skips and quick kills.
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>>175893163

What do you mean? I don't know about your own definition but the top-tier list has only expanded since TRC balance patches kneecapped Flame Spear and adjusted Pole. Technically speaking that's a far more diverse list of weapons in the upper category compared to the previous games, Hammers for example are the best they've ever been in a Souls game for PvP and STR/FAI is practically the most optimal meta set-up now.
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>>175892907
+6 weapons are the best since you need chunks to hit +7, and anyone with access to chunks probably at least has a slab or two, so they jump up to +10, leaving only +5 and other +6 players for you to invade.
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>>175892997
I avoid healing even when I drop to half HP in 1v1 invasions because usually it's easier to fight someone who isn't spamming estus than someone who is and not healing very often baits the other party to not heal as well.
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>>175892771
What is so good about the corvian great knife?
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Does the onislayer greatbow fire faster than the other greatbows? I don't see any reason to use it.
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can anyone drop me a splitleaf greatsword right quick?
I'd appreciate it a lot
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>>175892281
I GOT THEM. HOLY SHIT I GOT THEM.
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>Start doing Darkmoon yesterday
>Already 27 proofs and 2 well kept ones

Why do people farm the Silver Knights again? If you refresh your covenant you get summoned so often. At least on PS4.
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>>175893679
on pc by the way, maybe one day I'll stop forgetting
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>Midir has no tailcut weapon

what kind of bullshit is this.
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>>175893641

Longest ranged dagger in the game with great damage for being a dagger. Blind Spot is also a terrific WA.
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>>175893535
+8 is actually better because you'll be fighting most people locked at +6 with an advantage and isn't that far behind +10s.

>>175893761
You took the easy way out.
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>>175893434
>STR/FAI is practically the most optimal meta set-up now.
Which you already see too much. Whatever happened to quality facing off against dex/int and dex/faith builds? even if everyone was rocking elemental weapon infusions in das2 the sorceries, hexes and even miracles offered some variety to builds.
as for weapons, it's simply way more fun to play with powerful weapons than weak weapons. I'm pretty sure that Dark Souls III has seen more weapons get nerfed than any other souls game.
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Spend a slab on the Claymore or Bastard Sword?

They have like the same AR for me
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>>175894014
gaymore has the better moveset
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any ps4bros need help?
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>throw a random parry
>opponent starts spamming parry
why

>>175892594
hell no. you can see him roll twice during a WoG at sage+2
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>>175881642
Could the Nameless King even take Aldrich?
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>>175893887
they shrunk the weapon ranges down to plus or minus 1
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Estus adds an additional layer of complexity to fighting players in this game, dictates your maneuvers, shuffles the power levels of rings and weaponry because certain weapons shine above others with estus in play and vice versa, and Lloyd's charm becomes a move everyone can pack and needs to account for, and lengthens battles so you spend more tike fighting and less time looking at load screens.

Estus and healing are healthy for all forms of pvp and should be encouraged. Fight me.
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>>175894274
+8 is still +6 to +10. It used to be +5 to +10.
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>>175894014
claymore for fucking sure
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>>175894258
aldrich is the easiest boss next to yhorm so yeah, he probably can
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>>175894030
Yeah, and I was just looking at them both just now and the Claymore is much longer.

I think the Claysnore is overused, and I've always avoided it in every game, but I'm going to give it a whirl. I only need it as a backup weapon.
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>>175874137
someone should make a version of the OP picture with the painter girl
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>>175893820
Refresh, like unequip and re-equip?
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>>175894295
Tbh its the truth.
After a lot of dueling I've come to realise I like invading with no rules a lot better
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>>175894258
didn't aldrich only manage to eat gwyndolin because he was ill?
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>>175894421
Yes, every few minutes. I'm convinced it makes it go faster, but I have no proof. I'm sure it's not placebo effect.
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>>175894409
Yhorm is only easy because he basically hands you the weapon needed to kill him.
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>>175894438
Thank you.
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>>175894295
It's true. It seems that with most games with a scrub player base unfamiliar with anything competitive such as dark souls tend to assume that outside factors that add layers of complexity to a struggle is bad and "cheap". Items in Smash bros, awakening on NUNS4, etc
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Huh, well ok then, already got a spear.
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>>175894295
>Estus adds an additional layer of complexity to fighting players in this game, dictates your maneuvers
No it doesn't, you're pretty much always safe as far as chugging goes, and even if you aren't DS3 is one of the easiest games to play passive and run away in.

>shuffles the power levels of rings and weaponry
it makes instakills and the estus ring more viable, and regen less viable; that's pretty much it

>Lloyd's charm becomes a move everyone can pack and needs to account for
yeah five lloyd's charms against three guys with seven flasks is a real strong form of counterplay

I like the fact that estus etc exists but let's not pretend the implementation is great
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>>175894295
Does estus do more to help or hinder hyper-armor trading weapons such as UGS's? It's hard to say.
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>summoned as a blue spirit
>it's a 'red phantom acts like a pussy then BCs out after wasting everyone's time' episode
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>>175892907
>>175893253
>>175893535
Been telling you guys for weeks.
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>>175894841
you lucky fucker it took me an hour to get mine
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>>175894945
eat shit
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>>175894945
>blue phantom is summoned in
>it's a "me and one of the golds were fighting 1-on-1 but the blue is a huge faggot" edition

Have fun playing 2-on-2 with me and the Pontiff knight.
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>>175893679
asking one last time because I don't have the DLC yet
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Tips for playing through SOTFS for the first time. I've only played base DS2 through once, long ago, don't remember much.

Should I do:
-strength/int build based around magic and enchanted fist weapons

or

-Alonne Knight cosplay
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>Get summoned as a Dorkmoon
>Can't find the host
>Can't find the invader
>Run around for five minutes looking for any signs of life
>Invader presumably falls off a cliff and dies somewhere
>"YOU DID IT"
M-mission accomplished?
>>
I literally deal no damage on dark souls 1, I do like 89 dmg with a +5 taito and I just opened the gate to sen's fortress
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Why does everyone shit on blues?

I've never farmed DMB or been a blue really, so I'm interested why people enjoy seeing them suffer.
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>>175895176
firing up my not a pcuck sorry
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>>175895128
blues don't give a shit about honor, they're there for the ear and nothing else

it's you or farming knights
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>>175874137
Is brain damage anon still here?
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Does anyone else like the premise of agility but not the execution or just me?
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>>175895268
whos he
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>>175895239
Reds invade into gank squads about 95% of the time, blues are just fuel to the fire.
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>>175895230
just farm the slug things in blight town for +10
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>>175894530
Ah sweet! It seems to be working.
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>>175895230
what's your stats/what enemies give you problems
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>>175895552
All enemies.

I'm a resistance build with lots of stamina and attunment
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>>175895730
>resistance
lole
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Regen build. No probs in PVE. Good streak in Arena. What do I need to change for invasions?
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>>175895730
>Resistance
Are you havin' a laugh
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>>175895645
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>>175895645
skyrim and fallout are difficult in the beginning
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>>175895209
Ariandel is the best for passive rewards. I often get 3+ pale tongues before I even see the host because Dorkmoons keep getting raped by vikings and falling off shit.
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>>175895837
acid surge should be lightning arrow
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>>175895837
you should add the Filiamore chime, the regen WA doesn't wear off when you switch weapons

>Heal Aid
>Acid Surge
for what purpose?
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>>175895959
classic fable 3 mistake
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>>175895552
like 19 str, 24 dx, 14 faith, 12 attunement, 21 endurance im level 35, and I have an issue with everything that doesn't bleed with taito. I'm not sure if it's intended in order for the game to be difficult or no. I'd rather do shit damage and struggle than go through the game and have it be a breeze
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>>175896256
>taito
There is no such weapon? Do you mean the Iaito?
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>>175896104
Yeah, the Ringed City isn't half bad either. Lots of death-traps and hosts who aren't turtling often die off without your help.
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>>175895645
>skinnypimp
>pimp

kek
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>>175896134
mistake on acid surge, should be lightning arrow.
heal aid is quick and heals 1/3 of my health w/ canvas and 50 fth.
Invasions for me in Ringed City atm tend to be very long, so it's an attrition thing. Is there something better?
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>>175895645
>80 hours
>you will spend more time watching loading screens than playing this game
Is this a Dark Souls review or was this for a different game?
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>>175895645
>>175895959
>>175896252

we need a souls version of this
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Why exactly is stamina almost hard capped at 40 endurance? You get more stamina going from 30 to 40 endurance than you do from 40 to 99.
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>>175895645
Did dsp write that or something
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>>175896252
the game is for retards, we're all retards.
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>>175896545
I mean, if you die ever 30 seconds that might be a possibility
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>>175895837
Regen builds are so much better at low levels.
Get Yorshka's Chime for gentle prayer and lightning arrow.
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>>175896784
how much fucking stamina do you need nigga
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>>175896784
>going from 49 vig to 99 vig gives 105 health
>going from 15 vig to 18 vig gives 131 health
attribute caps are stupid and unhealthy.
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>>175889605
Because nobody wants to be trapped in an eternal Anor Londo archers hell
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>>175877782
fucking atonement users, they get me everytime
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>>175895313
Some guy struggling with Midir because of bad reaction time.

Wanting to help fix his build to optimize it for survivability so phantoms could carry him through difficult bosses.
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>>175897337
no, no they're not
they're there to prevent SL 800 shitheads from being completely unkillable
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>get invaded on my bow build
>he straight up bullies me by just walking around and not approaching me
>runs away if I try and pull out my greatbow
>just rolls if I try to use rolling or running attacks
IT'S NOT FAIR
WHY CANT I PLAY WITH THE BIG BOYS TOO
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>>175897413
Why are you fighting SL800 people unless you are SL800 yourself?
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>>175897474
because reds invade infinitely up you fucking mong
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>>175889748
Frayed Blade fucks everything in the katana category, but I'd say Chaos Blade and Washing Pole are tied for a distant second. Darkdrift is a nice sidearm for dealing with shitty turtles.

2kat is a meme
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>>175897337
>implying every attribute only affects one stat
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>>175897549
boohoo don't invade then
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>>175892997
If he wanted an honorable no-Estus duel he should have used a Red Sign Soapstone. Otherwise, there's no reason he shouldn't expect you to chug.
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>>175897626
boohoo too bad soft caps exist :^)
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>>175895837
Let's compare eachothers.
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ten minute sketch of what the evil eye of astora might've looked like

boss idea would be this as the first phase casting crazy dark magic along with a dark lazer beam, then in the second phase the "shell" would crack open revealing a huge blob of writhing humanity-colored evil eye, with tentacles that it was use for new attacks in addition to continuing casting dark sorceries
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>>175889748
The only thing I've ever used that moundmaker katana for is to quickly kill myself. It does that pretty good but seems mediocre otherwise.
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>>175896252
>armor doesn't do much
>PvP is peer to peer and therefore often laggy
>enemies have lots of cool moves you can't do
>no way to change your movesets via increasings stats or otherwise
>NPC questlines are mysterious and basically require a guide
>backstab animations are all the same
>knight is clearly the best starting class, and tanky STR guy is the most simply effective PvE build
>big enemies don't really react to having specific body parts attacked

I dunno, he kinda has a few points.
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>>175897425
>Use FUGS
>win the vast majority of fights
>due to my slow moveset people can just roll around for literally ever, and taunt me with gestures
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>175897754

well shit i could've at least rotated it the right way

oh well
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>>175889658
Bonfire Ascetics were excellent, but the whole limited respawn mechanic was absolute bullshit in the first place.

My biggest criticisms for DaS2 can be boiled down to:
>Limited Respawns
>Soul Memory
>Shitty Estus
>Shitty Dodgeroll
>Soul Memory
>Did I mention Soul Memory yet?
>Fuck Soul Memory
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>>175897609
>implying people level vig for frost resistance
>especially past 50
>implying people level END for bleed/lightning resistance
>especially past 40
People rarely gouge VIG in DaS3 unless you count 44-50 VIG as gouging. I've never seen anyone level END past 40.
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>Highest strength requirement for a weapon is 60.
>Highest int requirement for a spell is 50.
>Highest faith requirement for a spell is 45.
>Highest dex requirement for a weapon is 28.
Why is dex always so gimped?
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>>175897848
yeah, the thing with ultras is that they're really good when the other guy is trying to kill you but you'll never fucking catch someone who just runs away
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>>175897760
Bloodlust can be kind of fun on low SL Undead Settlement invasions, which I think is it's intention.
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>>175897903
Are you retarded?
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>>175897848
>fight against someone with a greatweapon
>roll away and shoot him with a crossbow whenever he tries to hit me

I'm sorry.
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Does anyone here still play DS2: SOTFS on PS4? Would they be willing to drop an Alonne Knight Set+Katana?

Can you even drop stuff for new characters in DS2? Does it have the password system?
>>
I couldn't save Sunbro /dsg, I'm sorry
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>>175897903
Highest DEX req is 40 with Frayed Blade now. DEX is typically the lowest requirement because STR can lower the requirement by 2Hing and INT/FTH often have lower level versions of their spells.
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>>175897903
but dex has been consistently the meta until DS3
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>>175896252
>'I'm Not Shit This Game is Shit: The Post: The Experience'
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>>175897903
highest dex req is 40 for frayed blade and also requirements don't mean shit
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>name a favorite underpowered weapon you like
>make a change that you think will make it more viable/fun

Caestus is fun, but I would give it a charging, aggressive moveset, suited for running in and chasing people down, rather than relying on perseverance trades to do anything.
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>>175894892
(You)
>>
You guys are getting this all wrong. The worst skill is fucking Luck.
Base item discovery is 100, 99 luck makes it 199.
You can get 100 extra item discovery with just crystal sage rapier and tier 0 gold jew ring. It's fucking nothing.

Compare that to the Demon's Souls luck, where base value is 39, and 99 luck gives you 396 which is a hell of a lot better.
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>>175898190
>Farron Greatsword
Oh boy.
-Better scaling / base damage
-Make the first l1 unparriable
-Either buff the WA parry or replace it completely with something better like a fast short range stab that combos into the r1s
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>>175897903
>low requirements are a bad thing
That makes no sense. You gain no advantage by having high requirements.
>STR needs not only STR but also VIT and END
>INT/FTH also need ATT
>DEX is fine on its own
>for some reason DEX has the lowest requirements
At least STR can get away with being 2/3 the requirements by using both hands.
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>>175898190
>Great Machete
>An actual fucking combo of some kind

As is, it's just a kinda shitty version of Yhorm's
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>>175894295
I just wish estus was more risk/reward.
>Fast animation
>Fast healing
>Can move while healing
Compared with ds2.
>Slow animation
>Slow healing
>Can't move while healing
Or ds1.
>Fast animation (not as fast as ds3)
>Fast healing
>Can't move while healing

I was fine with it in DS1 and 2. It's just too easy to get away with in 3 is my only dislike.
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>>175898387
Luck does also affect bleed.

Full hollow builds with a bleed weapon are actually pretty legit until >lol bleed immune
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>>175898658
But it looks so much cooler.
>>
is this a win?
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>>175898743
host still alive - no
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>>175898815
but the host died
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Am i not getting something about the weapon range chart, am I reading it wrong or something?

>irithyll peak invasions are after pontiff
>SL50-60, +6 weapon for invader
>chart says max upgrade host can have is +4 if the invaders highest is +6

surely all these hosts don't just have a +4 weapon max, especially if they want to invade as well
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>>175898830
you can see the host's healthbar in the left of t he screen he's totally fine
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>>175898845
the chart's just confusing. it means a +4 host can at max be invaded by a +6 invader
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>>175898723
Exactly
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>>175898946
You can see in big letters after both phantoms die "Host of Embers Destroyed".
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>>175898845

host can have a +6 weapon and be matched with you, he can just be matched with even higher upgrades also

its not that hard to get
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>>175898190
>Crescent Axe

Give it axe R1's and faith scaling similar to the Saint's Bident. Also make Warcry not overwrite other buffs but still give you access to the Warcry R2's on any Warcry weapon.
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>>175897746
I do use my shield from time to time so I don't think I could pare the build down as much as you have. Do you parry at all with that caestus?
You're missing out on 2hp/s without an imbued main hand but I suppose that isn't that big of a deal.
In duels yours has the great regen--14 hp/s with buffs vs 11. Mine might last a bit longer depending on ash estus.
I had lightning storm for when summoned as halflight, you have WotG for AoE.
How is White Corona, really? Haven't used it.
Lastly, is Garg spear that good to be your main weapon? I messed around with it on a Leo/Estoc build and didnt have great results.
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>summoned as a blueberry
>oh shit oh shit time for ear
>black crystald out
don't let me go hollow
i'm goin HOLLOW
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>>175898743
>Invading in Irithyll Dungeon

Where did your life go wrong that you feel such hatred
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>>175898954
>>175899018

thanks, thinking is hard
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>>175898714
tough to have an entire build countered with a consumable. frayed blade extends the usage a bit with WA
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so did elemental infusions get an ar buff now?
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>>175899098
I hate everyone and want to die.
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>>175899049
>Do you parry at all with that caestus?
Rarely, I only use offhand caestus to sheathe my weapon to be A E S T H E T I C.
>How is White Corona, really? Haven't used it.
It's shitty, but better than Divine Pillars.
>>175899049
>Lastly, is Garg spear that good to be your main weapon?
I hadn't done a great hammer build yet, and it fit the theme. It's a giant torch to guide hosts through the darkness.
>>
How is From so consistently shit at PvP hitboxes? Getting hit from 20 feet out is getting pretty fucking old.
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>>175898946
does backstep outrange PCS?
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>be mid-low level blue
>get reasonable amount of summons
>constantly fight min maxed reds with also min maxed shit
>out shit them more often than not
>they b/c almost every time before I kill them

Jokes on you mate, I dont even want dorkmoon blade im just doing this for fun
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>>175899498
backstep doesn't outrange anything
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>>175899409
Is this the genocide crusade?
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>>175899770
But why include a special moveset if that weren't the case?
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>>175899409
>host runs up and attacks the blue
>>
>no other ps4 players ever willing to co-op from dsg until it's my bed time
>>
>>175898215
(Me)
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>>175900350
What? I've even managed to play with dsg on deadbox 1
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>>175900634
Only because that redditer who stole the cancer patients items is here all the time
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>>175900762
>that redditer who stole the cancer patients items
I love how a little piece of information gets added to that story every time I hear it
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>>175894967
Sorry to hear, man.
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>trying to help friend through Ringed City

>Invader spawns, just finished killing all the Harold knights

>Invader spawns

>Have repeatedly told my friend in the past to let me 1v1 invaders so we don't have to chase the dickheads all the way around the map

>Start fighting the invader

>Friend tries to get a shitty backstab on him

>God fucking damn it

>End up running through the area for like 10 minutes

>He gets killed by the giant

>HE BLAMES ME FOR HIS FUCKING DEATH
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>>175886174
It's not the Age of Ancients, tho.
That age died with the everlasting dragons.
It's something less than an Age of Ancients.
It's an Age of Ash.
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>>175891459
kek
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How do I kill Dancer at a low level? She is absolutely destroying me.
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>bullying Undead Settlement so hard the repeat phantoms start jumping off cliffs

the power of poison ghru dagger
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>>175897950

>almost dead and you got morion blade and red tearstone on
>turn around as if you're about to flee
>use WA when they think they got the backstab
>kill yourself and them

it works sometimes all the time
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>>175901224
maybe the Age of Ancients formed from the ashes of the age of fire, you don't know...WERE YOU THERE?
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>>175901585
now this is how you mad phantom
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>>175901476
If you have to ask, then you won't be able to.
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>>175901123
Can I get a good look at that face?
Looks like my old high school crush.
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>>175901224
Age of Ancients is Age of Ash.

Remember The Great Hollow? Remember Ash Lake?
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>>175886896
>>175886950
not for a blue you retards, they're desparate for ears
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>>175901497
I'm actually sad I told you about the build, I should have kept it a secret. Absolute fucking cancer.
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>bloodlust
does having more luck make it do more bleed damage to you?
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>>175897879

Soul Memory a shit
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>>175897996

You still here? I have it.

You need to buy Name-engraved Ring from the talking cat in Majula, that increases summoning range. Once you have the ring you set it to a certain god, to connect with others who have the same god.

On on an unrelated noted, I just got invaded while idling in Shrine of Amana, we had a proper duel and killed each other at the exact same time. Cheers stranger
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>>175901727
Uh, sure
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>>175901864
>i tell everyone about pontiffs at +6.
>everyone is doing it now.
>some even copying my build
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>>175901198

Your friend is a shitter.
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>>175902041
>Reminder that I, Lucifer, invented the claymore
you can invade in way earlier areas with +6 weapons
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>>175901476
Speedruns have Dancer at +5/6 Sellsword Twinblades with 40 Dex + resin. How do you compare to that?
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>>175901965
The summoning range only goes so far in ds2 even with name engraved ring
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>>175901978
Thanks.
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>>175901198
you and your friend should gb2 reddet
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>>175901769
Well I mean, the main difference is that there's time now, and also no dragons.

So I'd say it's a little different, anon.
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>>175901476
dark hand
it comes fully upgraded and she's weak to dark damage
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>>175902041
I've been doing pontiff's at +6 since august last year because revenge against ganks. I just upgraded to +8 because it lets me invade everything past it too.
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>>175901635
>WERE YOU THERE???
kek'd. Thanks, anon.
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is a +3 twinkling/titty scale upgrade the equivalent of +6?
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>>175902102
>you can invade in way earlier areas with +6 weapons
Not the point. Invasons there at that weapon level are nearly instant.

Instant. All day. All night. There are times when it's impossible to remove the covenant because of instant invasons.
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>>175902347
yes it is.
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I am on my first playthrough. Is the purple shit that Aldrich shoots dark magic or regular magic? Need to know which pellet to buy.
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>>175901895
>with 11 str and 40 dex bloodlust has less physical than frayed blade in spite of being a pure-physical weapon
wew, forget I said anything
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>>175902459
I'm not sure if anything can build bleed quicker than frayed.
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>>175902426
Just dodge it my dude
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>>175902041
>area after pontiffs had signs and invasions galore week 1
>theres a fucking covenant around it
>+6 is naturally where you are at pontiff unless you got the only two chunks before, which most never did
>hey guys i told everyone about this hurr hur
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Anyone on PS4 up for helping me transfer a bunch of items between characters?
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>>175902675
No. It's boring.
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>>175902621
yeah but i suck
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>>175901476
Blood infused Bandit Knife worked well for me. She's weak to bleed, and you can dodge her attacks more easily with Quickstep.
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>>175899025
can we just remove warcry from the game and make warcry weaponarts into the warcry R2's? I guess you could give weapons a general AR buff to compensate for the inability to gain damage from warcry.
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>>175902654
And yet somehow no one talked about it all. Then I started talking about it every thread and now lots of anons are talking about it and posting wembs and stories all the time.
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>>175903207
>INVENTED
>THE
>CLAYMORE
>>
>dueling
>enemy player sits there holding lightning arrow
>whatever i can just dodge when he relea-
>it fucking hits me even though im 100% focused with my finger hovering the dodge button

is my reaction time just shit or is it literally impossible to dodge from a short to medium distance?
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>>175903289
That was on you, just walk to the side if you can't roll it. It's a little harder to dodge it while sprinting since you need to release and press the button instead of just pressing it.
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Who wants to fuck shit up as Yahim, Ricce, and Alessia.
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>>175903405
R I C C E
I
C
C
E
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>>175903403
>walk to the side
>it hits the air 3 feet beside me and i still take 300 dmg

what next fucko
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>>175903207
this is wrong, it was always a thing. it died in the general, it came back, and it will die again when the hypes gone again and reddit leaves

you didnt influence shit
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>>175896375
wow you corrected me don't you feel smarter now anon for a typo
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Quick question

If you riposte someone who's low with ToD on, does the first part of the riposte pop ToD and then the followup kill them or how does it work?
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>>175903286
Why are you so jealous? I started a trend. There's anons posted wembs everyday using similar build to mine.

Maybe one day you can come up with something nice.
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>>175903474
try moving to a first world country
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>>175903759
>>175903286
You're trying way too hard.
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>>175901198
Tell him to never play dark souls. We already have too much of their kind. FROM is to blame for letting this stupid shit go on for too long.
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>>175903491
>t died in the general, it came back,

Who do you think brought it back? xD
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>>175903759
>>175903853
You're trying way too hard.
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is soul farming supposed to be soul crushingly boring? i don't like backstabbing a drakeblood for 1hr for 500k souls aka 6 levels
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>>175888707
>DS1 Zweihander and not Greatsword
pathetic

>DS2 greatsword and not FUGS or Zweihander,
pathetic
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>>175903853
I invented it, stupid.
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Is there any sort of ideal level range/weapon upgrade to be summoned as a blue?
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>>175903861
Yeah us Drumpfs supporters are the ones who rule the internet.
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>>175903957
There is never a time when you should need to grind souls. I also got 2 million+ just from helping with Midir for a bit.
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>>175903957
yes, because you aren't expected to grind
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>>175903957
Why are you even farming souls?
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>>175904134
>>175904190
i don't have the second dlc so no midir
the homotwins give me 20k for a 5 min long fight where the host dies half of the time

what do
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>>175896356
>purple lynched by local mob
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>>175903925
>>175903853
It's the truth. There's even green text stories posted with people using my exact build.

Wembs posted at me saying how they are trying my build.

Dsg just loves to try whatever someone does well with and then try to act like it came out of nowhere or it was always there. Then get upset when a YouTuber does the same thing with memes and lore.

>hurr this lore has alwaya been here. You didn't invent partake memes. I've always used Bident, i don't know any old man's tier list.
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>>175903759
hes been called out, now gone full retard and doubled down

you cant write this shit
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>>175889658
>In DaS2 the elemental weapons were simply better than normal ones

Not true. elemental weapons were WORSE than pure physical ones for the same stat investment, but became BETTER if you buffed them. And if you only scaled 1 stat, they would be approximately the same damage, maybe 10-15% off at most depending on a weapon's initial scaling.

That's the fair way to do it. DS2 let you cast and use melee, but you had to keep buffing and invest more stats, and the extent at which you did determined whether you did more or less damage. Split wasn't always worse, like in DS1.

>I don't think anyone can or should defend how rolls worked in DaS2
"wah I can't frame perfect speedrun my rolls anymore because the game gave me too many options!"

>I'm not sure what you mean by throwing knives, but poison made more sense in DaS2
A lot of weapons in DS2 had actual purposes. Throwing Knives had auto-kill mechanics against most unarmed humanoid mobs, herbs actually helped casters reach bosses, you had a number of self-buff items that just weren't in DS1 so you could temporarily boost defense against certain things, you had elemental projectile throwing items, you had status-effect throwing items, you had weapon buff items for both status effects and elements, and you had consumable items that gave you pvp effects.
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>>175904019
Yes. Sl 50-60 with +6 weapons
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>>175890027
From your starting class, don't level up int, str, faith, or dex.
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>>175904308
Go to NG+

>>175904437
Not really. Elemental weapons were better in PvP simply because of the way diminishing returns and soul memory works.
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>>175904415
>maybe one day I can come up with a thing too. Until then I'll just call people retard xD
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Guys what's a FUN build? Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow, and I'll use every excuse to get drunk so I'm going to start something new and FUN

Is Pyromancy FUN?
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>>175904537
The only enemies in PvE that took less damage from elemental weapons were the DLC enemies.

Split damage was always better except for very early game and end-game DLC. The big 80% in between the two, split damage infusion on a weapon always did more.
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>>175896698
what souls enemy is the equivalent of the tiger rex monster
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>>175904610
Most fun you can have in DaS3.
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>>175896698

there is one, from the DeS days.
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>>175904610
>Cinco de Mayo

fucking beanigger

>Is Pyromancy FUN?

yes
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So which are the must have pyromancies? Also what do I max first? I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>175904437
>Split wasn't always worse, like in DS1

but muh zaphander
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>>175904749
Eastern Europe was a mistake.
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>>175904845
gcfo, cbv, surge, BLACKED flame

>>175904884
nice camera hack
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>>175904394
>Wembs posted at me saying how they are trying my build.
Just stop lying man, we're at 700 posts there's one onion guy who's been posting his faith webms and one purple with the executioner's greatsword. At most one of them is copying your build, which is one person, and chances are neither of them look anything like you. I bet you're just a CSS mage who's trying to pretend you aren't unoriginal.
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>>175904845
The chaos fire ball and vestiges for PvE.

Also get the black fire orb for princes, projected heal for reasons, and pestilent mercury for Midir. Black flame is ridiculously handy for PvP too.
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>>175904993
he's controlling the boss, watch his items
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>>175905016
>theres only 3 wembs posted here

One day if you keep trying maybe you can do something nice
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>>175904537
>ng+
>beat the game i've beaten 28 times
>do it AGAIN

fuck no desu
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>>175904678
>no reason to go beyond 30 FTH
>no reason to go beyond 30 INT
>no reason to go beyond 40 VIG
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>>175905121
press ctrl F and look at all the webms

the only builds that have been posted repeatedly were the ones I'd listed, everything else is just a standalone webm with a build which isn't featured in any others, mage
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>>175904993
Gundyr doesn't attack in succession that quickly
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>>175905093
>>175904993
Thanks, guys. I assume the first thing I need to max is my pyromancy flame, right? Does it matter if I max int or fth first? Or should I level them up at the same time?
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>>175903207
>wemb
>>175903759
>wemb
>>175904394
>Wemb
>>175905016
>Wemb
>>175905121
>wemb
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>>175905317
the second to last one is just me greentexting his typo
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>>175905176
>>175905279
Raise you flame and melee weapon at the same time.

Get both to 25 then both to 40. The only real reason to level one faster than the other is for spell requirements.
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>>175905279
>Does it matter if I max int or fth first? Or should I level them up at the same time?

you need at least 30/30
int first as the good pyros have int reqs
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>>175905490
>>175905441
Okay, thank you.
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How well do explosive bolts do in PvP?
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https://youtu.be/SRTfcMeqhig
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>>175905841
Top tier when used unlocked and shooting at ground.
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>>175904063
>Drumpfs
Imagine being this brainwashed, but still able to browse 4ch without being triggered. Like a walking paradox.
>>
is it just me or are there a lot more cheaters on pc lately
>>
>>175906049
>"Everyone I don't like is triggerable"
>find a direct counterexample to your claim
>"uhh it's is just a paradox"
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>>175906061
Almost every player was already a cheater, they are just becoming more brazen about it.
>>
what are some good weapons for chasing people down? i want something that can make use of the stamina boost from power within
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>>175906252
washing pole
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>>175906176
Triggered :^)
>>
>>175906061
>>175906178
I don't know which is worse, the "I only cheat if I'm losing" or the "I'm not even gonna pretend this is fair fight"
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>>175906350
well I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you get well soon
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>>175906049
if you mention trump everyone gets triggered

both republicucks and libtards alike
>>
>about to go into ng+
>think about fighting oceiros, pontiff, and aldritch again

fuck
>>
>>175906417
>no u
That is arguably the weakest possible response. might as well stomp your feet on the ground and say "I know you are but what am I?"
>>
>>175906402
subtle speed hacks are the fucking worst

WHY even pretend it's fair with your curved sword that is too fucking fast to roll out of
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>>175906509
are you on pc man i can help u
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>>175906509
>oceiros
he only poses a threat at low levels where the dash can instakill you

>pontiff
you have a gorillion NPCs that can kill him for you

>aldrich
only poses a threat when you have low stam, and most people keep him alive in later games so that they can get invaded
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>>175904848
The only time split damage works in DS1 is when you're twinking with chaos or lightning weapons. You're still losing damage but you get to spend those points elsewhere. Normal does more damage, and can be infused for even more damage

DS1 Single: 420
>+15 Zweihander (40/40) vs 250 defense (typical)
>610 AR, 420 Damage

DS1 Split: 313
>Occult Zweihander (40/10/40) vs 250/250 defense
>665 AR (283+382), 313 damage (121+193)

DS1 Chaos: 284 (w/ 46 extra stat points)
>Chaos Zweihander, base stats, 10 humanity, vs 250/250 defense
>676 AR (313+363), 284 damage (140+143)

DS1 single with SLB: 557 Damage
>SLB zweihander, (40/20/30) vs 250/250 defense w/canvas talisman
>919 AR (610+309), 557 damage (519+138)

DS2 Single: 386 (486 with RoB/Flynn)
>+10 Zweihander (40/40) vs 1000 defense
>486 AR, 386 Damage

DS2 Infused: 393
>+10 Zweihander (40/12/40) vs 1000 physical, 400 elemental (typical)
>665 AR (322 + 343), 393 damage (222 +171)

DS2 Infused + Buffed: 477
>+10 Zweihander (40/12/40) vs 1000 physical, 400 elemental (typical)
>832 AR (322 + 510), 477 damage (222 +255)

Notice how robflynn and infused buffed are almost identical? It's close enough that the damage difference between physical and elemental depends more on the opponent's defense and equipment, rather than being always better or worse like DS1. This is GOOD balance. This means that there aren't wasted infusions in the game.

Except for bleed. That's something DS2 fucked up.
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>>175906557
>That is arguably the weakest possible response.
Are you triggered that your single-word reply didn't get anything more than that?
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>>175906631
thanks man you put a lot more thought into your post than i did

not being ironic please keep informing
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>>175906718
Naw, just disappointed. After that little bit of 'tism greentext expected a bit more.
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>>175906828
Triggered
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redpill me on scholars of the first sin
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>>175906948
its ok
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>>175905979
this guy fucking sucks

contrarianism for contrarianism's sake can be okay if you have something interesting to say but this video is just pathetic, reminds me of the way children keep on arguing when they know they're wrong
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>>175906948
statues
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>>175906894
>>175906718
>>175906417
>>175906176
Not him but for real you do seem pretty butt-bothered by getting called triggered.
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>>175906948
Worse than vanilla, but at least it includes the dlc
>>
>Doing coop for Nameless King with my Faith build
>Get summoned by a sorcerer
>Host summons another sorcerer
>Proceed to melt both phases in under a minute flat

Is this what bullying feels like?
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>>175907095
No, I just thought it was weird that he was able to be so convenience-minded. He says "All X are Y," then upon finding one which isn't, just says it doesn't really count or something. It's more of a "everything I don't like is fake news" thing than a triggered thing.
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>>175906731
It's better summed up like this:

In DS2 every weapon has a range of potential damage based on your stats, buffs, and rings.

For physical, this is about +/- 100 damage (100 from Rob/flynn, 100 from scaling).

For elemental, this is a % based, and usually (except for very low AR weapons) extends beyond the range (both positive and negative) than the phyiscal range. So for the things you CAN control, elemental is better, but it requires more of those things (like buffs) adding inconvenience.

But to balance it, they make sure that the range CAN'T control (enemy rings, buffs, stats) is always larger than the range you can control. This means that the only way to constantly be using the optimal infusion or damage type is to adapt to the opponent, which means hot swapping weapons, waiting for their buffs to run out, etc.

This is good balance.
>No infusions or stats are wasted
>optimal path depends on the situation, not just on the stats
>stats are necessary to understand in order to adapt to the situation

When people talk about DS2 having the best multiplayer, it was stuff like this. The build variety was insane because so many different stat distributions and scaling types were viable.
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>>175907312
>>175907312
>>175907312
New Thread
>>175907312
>>175907312
>>175907312
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>>175907326
It came more off like he was just shit-talking, m8. Then you went and took it seriously.
Almost like he knew what would trigger a reaction or something... smiling emoticon
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>>175907428
merely pretending
>>
>>175907480
Still not him. Just stating an observation as a third party.
>>
>>175906948
Improves on vanilla in every way except for making some immersion-breaking enemy placement choices in favor of making the game more balanced. Most of those lore-oriented placements are bumped to NG+ instead.

Recommendation: Play on the lowest brightness setting. Use bonfire ascetics regularly when you need a higher challenge.
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>>175906948
Simultaneously better and stupider.
>>
>>175907556
Why are you taking it so seriously?
>>
>>175907654
Hey I just don't want to get caught up in the perpetual "You're a samefag" "no you" loop that I can already see winding up. I mean the thread's dead anyways but it's more of a matter of principle.
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>>175906948
a well polished turd but it still stinks because it's a turd

also it has some peanuts in it and you can tell the person didn't have a very good diet by the consistency
>>
yo where's the non lucifer thread at?
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>>175907805
Fair enough my dude
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>>175908098
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>>175908745
>>175908745
>>175908745
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