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Line of Sight edition
previous thread: >>175531754

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>How to join /wfg/ Alliance: http://i.imgur.com/j5lpBr9.png


>Notable links
/wfg/ Discord: https://discord.gg/v6G5rTg
Wiki: http://warframe.wikia.com
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
Damage 2.0: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData (MissionDecks=mission rewards)
Another Datamine / Warframe News: https://semlar.com/
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
DPS calculator and build planner No.2: http://warframe-builder.com/ (frames, weapons and companions)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/2v58uvp.jpg
Frames and Modding: https://pastebin.com/D8Ckdz0c
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS
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CURRENT UPDATE: Octavia's Anthem 20.3.0
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/790938-octavia%E2%80%99s-anthem-update-2030/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Banshee
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/767736-banshee-prime-hotfix-19115/

Liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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>>175626507
First for Fast
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>>175626507
>reddit is driving the threads now

i see why this place is just a pile of shit around certain times.
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>>175626645
>>reddit is driving the threads now
what did he meme by this?
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Data Mined
>Oberon Prime parts drop from only Eximus from the Orokin faction
>Shade Prime
>Ack and Brunt Prime (Yes we know it's Grineer)
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Reminder LOS is a meme and practically irrelevant, the best spells in the game require LOS and Nidus's 2 is one of the best CC in the game
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I await Ivy's Tennogen
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Got to wonder how many threads he'll spill his spaghetti on this time.
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>>175627227
knowing him? every single fucking one
he never changes, ever
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>>175627227
As soon as /wfg/ finally agrees that LOS is one of the most important factors in the game and far from irrelevant, that Nidus 2 is not good CC, that Nidustrads who said his 2 was the best CC in the game are fucking retarded.

3 simple truths, but I'm sure retards will still manage to fuck it up
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Mag is Top Tier. T I E R!

No debate!
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>>175627332
is literally only one retard sarying that shit
the stupid ass grey/blue nidustard
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>>175627486
nah it was more than one person

the sad thing is, it was more than one person who had >1k hours in the game saying that LOS is irrelevant and Nidus 2 is among the best CC. How do you have >1k hours and still fail to understand basic game mechanics?
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>>175627332
I didn't say you could talk to me, faggot.
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>>175627453
>Without a doubt, one of the cutest things in the game
>Is also basically useless
It's tough being Mag.
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>>175627571
lol
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>>175626873
Reminder TQ can't comprehend language.
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>>175627839
>LOS is practically irrelevant
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First reply to this post decides what I vote for in darvos fire sale.
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>>175627584
They could've buffed her ass at least
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"Nowhere left to hide. Nowhere left to run!"
"This is for the tubemen!"
"Die lizard, leech, bloody worm!"

I just want my Equinox already, fuck.
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>>175627584
At least shes not oberon.
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>>175628460
Tyl has some of the best voice acting and lines in the goddamn game.

It's a shame that they stuck him with a terrible fucking grind. Spent literally all day grinding for the TWO (2) last parts I needed.

New alert with Tyl Regor as mission support when?
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>Reminder
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>>175627453
>>175628314
What does Mag think about?
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>>175629025
>One making decisions for the many
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>>175629025
how can someone be this mad about free shit?
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>>175629229
We don't mind free shit, we mind the stupid incorrect bullshit he types in every night.
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>>175629454
>stupid incorrect bullshit
t. butthurt nidustard
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>>175629454
Damn right
>Slurp
I lov-
>slrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>pop
>free shit from the-
>qrrrrkkkkkkkkk
guy I shit on every chance I get because I'm a hypciiiiiii
-gag
-braaaaaaaaaaap
>/wfg/
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>>175629721
how can someone be this mad about free shit?
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>>175629058

Mag thinks about why mission control named herself a damn flower.
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I miss my friend Frogbutt.
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>>175630245
Why do you miss her?
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My complaints for this game:

1. Ability powers lack weight. Like seriously, they feel, sound and look so lackluster.

2. Enemy AI is shit. Complete lack of behaviors or unique enemies kill this game. Every enemy is like a cardboard cutout just there for target practice.

3. Bosses are awful.

4. Too many useless weapons.
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>>175630393
The booty
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I want to brutally rape Worm.
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>>175630481
>he still thinks people play warframe for the gameplay

lmao
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Not gonna lie, former topgun supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching his guides crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let these guides into the OP.
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>>175630481
Sounds like you need to buy Nier: Automata then come back to Warframe.
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>>175630910
>STILL NOT CRACKED
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I'm newish to status weapons. Am I doing it even halfway right?

Yes, I know, LOLMelee, eat shit.
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>>175631045
you don't need weeping wounds if you already hit 100% status

in fact you could take that out and body count and replace it with drifting contact
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>>175631045
>broken scepter
>100% status and weeping wounds
no, you're not doing it right at all.
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>>175630983
And it won't be.

you poorfag
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>>175631273
>newest version of denuvo already cracked in record time
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>>175631515
what's denuvo
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>>175631261
>>175631180

That's why I ask for advice. Thanks.
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>>175631976
have you been living under a rock?
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>>175632250
yes, what is it
is it like a lenovo?
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How much could I jew out of this? Also, should I sell my Lex Prime set? It doesn't seem like I'd be able to get a whole lot of plat out of it considering how easy it is to get.
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oberon entry is updated
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>>175632940
>Oberon
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>>175632882
>akbolto
Fucking nothing. Sell it to someone who hasn't figured out how awful even the telos akbolto is for ~75p or so.

>lex prime
sells for 15-20 tops, check the fucking market site
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>>175630910
>the same big-ass Guts sword was in Drakengard too
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>>175632940
>he's still at it
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>>175631976
its an anti piracy that does network to network verification to make sure all the files haven't been tampered or injected to the point it actually effects the performance of the games. games under denuvo do get cracked eventually but it takes time so this >>175631515 person is lying
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>>175633036
yeah i know, i felt bad doing it

>>175633051
you too
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>>175633051
he doesn't need to shill his list like some assholes. Because it's already in the OP
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>>175633097
well tales of berseria got cracked really fast
but god eater 2 took a long ass time
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>>175633040
I know how much Lex Prime sells for, I'm just wondering whether or not it would be worth it.
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>>175633143
your """"""""guide""""""""" is like a $5 aids-ridden hooker compared to a 11/10 2d waifu who loves you forever

>>175633160
funny, the superior frame guide is also in the OP
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>>175633274
with less effort i put a guide in the OP
btfo
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>>175633229
>weeb shit
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>>175633143
Thanks anyway. As soon as I get some extra plat I plan on using Oberon. I'll check out the OP when that time comes.
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>>175633407
dont, he isnt worth investing in
i just put him in because he does now have a niche
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>>175633339
cuz you and OPfag suck each other's cocks lmao

like every retarded 1k hour shitter who has no idea how to play the game, you guys circlejerk over your shitty builds like a bunch of old men on viagra

>>175633407
just read the right guide anon
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>>175633568
>OPfag
so everyone? op is made by whoever is currently on, and i have no idea who curates the pastebin.
again, ive done more with less effort and more basic intelligence.

>strawmanning about in game time
weve already established that I have more than you, dont try
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>>175633568
What happened to you? Has the NEET life taken a toll on you already?
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>>175633383
>not liking weeb shit
kys
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I'm bored. Should I potato Akzani?
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>>175633702
OP is ran by 1 guy who throws an autism fit whenever anyone modifies it

if I were you I wouldn't be so proud of my game time, it's okay for newshitters to be stupid. You have to have borderline brain damage to have 1k+ hours and still churn out that garbage you call a guide
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>>175633839
youre just upset because the ENTIRE general reports your posts as spam when you try to change it yourself.

you are the common denominator in the problems that you have with /wfg/, nothing else you will try dodge this fact entirely, but everyone knows its true
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>>175633486
Understood
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>>175633839
OP is ran by a community that dislikes when a certain infamous and hated bother modifies it after getting refused by said community throughout multiple years.
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>>175633097
Oh, that's cool. I don't know the names of DRM outside of like Steam, though.
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>>175634006
the shitters in the general - e.g. nidustards, valkshitters, octaviacucks, and 1k+ shitters who think radiant finish and rift surge are good augments - hate the guide

ACTUAL vets like the guide

>>175634046
Wrong, /wfg/ doesn't give a shit about the OP. The only person that gives a shit about the OP is the shitter who maintains it and throws a huge hissyfit whenever anything is modified
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>people keep spaghetti-ing, mistaking you for some youtube gaymer gurl because of a completely unoriginal name you have in common
>the names are slightly different so that even if you're a retard, you can tell it's a different person
why is this generation so obsessed with internet celebrities, especially gamerrr grrrls
someone give me plat so i can name change
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now that i've unlocked sorties what sort of checklist gear wise do I need to go over so im not just leeching when I join them?
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>>175634263
>ACTUAL vets like the guide
nope
its all common information, guides arent written for people who know everything already
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>>175634263
>dodged over the fact that its spam at this point
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>>175634415
>its all common information
what the fuck does this even mean?
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>>175634263
So by your logic there's this 1 (ONE) guy who is ALWAYS, with absolutely no fault, awake when there's the need to create another thread.
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Need to figure out how to keep the helmet on
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>>175634459
feigning ignorance does not save you from illogical arguements
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Is putting crit mods on a weapon that can't red crit useless or are red crits just a bonus to damage and as long as its above 60% or so a crit weapon is decent?
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>>175634478
he's the one who maintains the OP, if the OP is changed he inevitably throws a shitfit. Ofc he's not there for every single fucking thread

>>175634597
it literally doesn't make any fucking sense. What do you even mean by common knowledge like it's a fucking insult? The guide is a compilation of meta builds
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>>175634756
>only the guy who maintains the OP gets mad when (You) change it

this is a new level of being way too far into denial, holy shit

never reply to me again, subhuman.
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>>175634279
at least 15000 DPS on your primary or secondary, test on warframebuilder.
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Because I can't quite get enough blowing myself up:

1.) How fucking sexy is a 9.3x crit modifier?
2.) Keep the cycle party going?
3.) It's getting one more forma- what should go in the final slot?
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>>175634992
>unzips

WELP. Time to roll my Zarr Riven until it hits 99
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>>175634424
>when someone is so repetitive and uses the same exact phrases over and over they stick out like a sore thumb every time and can be filtered
I'm almost impressed, a human who acts like a video game AI.
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>>175634621
the second one

redcrits are memes

>>175634935
the irony here is, of course, that the frame guide is already in the OP
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>>175634756
>claims to write guide for veterans
>veterans already know what is going on
i repeat, illogical. and the fact that you cannot understand why it is illogical shows that you have weak critical thinking which is bad for a wannabe doctor
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>>175634992
I find it funny how the zarr is med disposition.
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>>175635192
not your frame guide of course lmao
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>>175635231
>claims to write guide for veterans
someone could feed me a book and I won't have this many words put into my mouth

Look, at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is content. How GOOD is the guide?

Does anyone here seriously trust a guide that says Radiant Finish and Rift Surge are good augments? Does anyone seriously find useful a guide that gives a bare minimum of 1-2 sentences per build with no explanation of how anything works?

Does anyone here seriously trust a weapons guide not based on damage or any sort of data at all?

I can shittalk the topgun guides as much as I want, but the actual guides are sinking themselves faster than anything I can say.
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>>175635483
both guides are in the OP. one of them shouldn't be
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>>175626507
Submitting my Application to Critbros.

Shit, I Red Crit
I Red Crit when I shit
I shit Red Crit Big Brick Shits
If you shit Mellow Yellow Crits
Then you was born a Shit
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>>175634263
>ACTUAL vets like the guide
>>175635578

youre upset, i understand. we all make mistakes.

your content is stale and you are a detestable poster
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>>175635783
>needs red crits to hit 7 digits
you are like babby, here I show you
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>>175635878
even the slowest people have realized by now you're just resorting to ad hominems, because you can't come up with a single defense against accusations everyone else realizes are true
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>>175634992
Critical Delay is worthless unless it would push the weapon into 100% crit territory, IE, 2 or 3 weapons in the game, and even then, still not worth the slot. I used to have it on a Hushed Tonk for stealth chaining because Argon Scope was too inconsistent, but DE fixed that for me, by both nerfing Tonk AND stealth chaining in general.
>we don't like draco, so we removed it
>silently nerf stealth for months
>everyone just moves on to the new draco while I struggle to max weapons the slightly slower way (depending on spawns/weapon)
Sometimes the game throws heavy units at me and I can max a weapon in 2 Sedna spy runs (because fuck corpus). Sometimes it takes 4-5 because shitty spawns, enemies spawning while I walk through doors, FUCKING DOGS/CATS spawning in caution state seeing me from the other end of the map outside enemy radar range and the Master setting off alarms, bullshit awareness range, etc.
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>>175635783
REDLISTED
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>>175635783
lmao you redcritshitters can't even meme correctly

repeat after me:

REDCRITS

ARE

A

MEME
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>>175635954
>Using the Tiberon sleek
Doesn't count.
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Why are red crits a meme? Aren't they triple damage or something like that?
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>>175636091
well that was the wrong pic

this is some real dank memes here, redcrits aint got NUTIN on dis
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>>175636265
>TQ false flagging
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>>175626761
Wait, what?
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>>175635961
you havent accused me of anything
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>>175636224
>sleek
nope, just big dragon dick, try again

there's a sleek that makes tiberon usable? mother of god, my raifu can actually do things now?
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>>175636265
Here's a full summary of all the relevant, objectively correct points.

1. Redcrits do not give a massive increase in your DPS. Many people seem to think that the ability to redcrit deals huge amounts of damage. A lot of people throw mods like Critical Delay and Argon Scope on their guns in an attempt to redcrit. Most egregiously, I've seen people selling Rivens for huge amounts because they "allow X gun to redcrit!" These people are all WRONG.

2. That being said, redcrits are never BAD. You're still going to get more damage if you have 110% crit compared to 100% crit. The damage increase from 100% -> 110% is simply the same from 90% -> 100%, or 80% ->90% (depending on who you ask, redcrits can be even WORSE due to diminishing returns).

3. For some weapons - in particular, slow-firing weapons like snipers - hitting 100% crit chance is desirable because it increases consistency. But in this case, it's hitting 100% that's important, NOT redcritting. And you're not doing it for a damage increase, but for consistency. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. In fact, using mods like Critical Delay to hit 100% crit chance often SACRIFICES overall DPS for consistency.

(Point 3 is contentious. I personally don't subscribe to it because I believe everything in a horde shooter washes out to averages, but many people think consistency is important and it's a valid point).

4. Related to point 3, hitting 100% crit chance can also be important if you're religious about aiming for headshots, because of the difference between a headcrit compared to a regular headshot or a regular crit. This is the ONLY case where Argon Scope can be good (and even then it's arguable due to headshot % and aim-down annoycances). But again, the emphasis is on 100% crit, not redcrits.

That's the explanation for the "redcrits are a meme" argument. Now you're smarter than 99.9% of the warframe playerbase, including the devs.
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>>175636426
>>175636265
damn, you didnt even try to hide samefagging

report all these posts, mods do your fucking job

also, just found this in my shortcuts: http://www.strawpoll.me/12640160/r
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>>175636350
maybe.....maybe not
Chroma is cheating
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>>175636426
thanks tq, I guess I'll aim for yellow crit builds.
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>>175636265
redcrits are the method by which critical chance continues to scale above 100%, with a form of linearly diminished returns per level of crit - they offer potentially huge spikes in your damage output, but more importantly the ability to redcrit represents the guarantee that all your other shots will be crits, which represents a new floor for your damage range

if some shitter tries to tell you they're a meme or that reaching 100% crit is worthless, ignore him, he's been a blight on this general for unimaginably long
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>>175635138
Here it happens again
Here >>175635192 >>175636265
and >>175636091
But the last one actually dodges filter. Which is why you filter the filename next which manage to filter that post and >>175636312
Then continues to pick up a catchphrase on where in this >>175636426 copypasta spam
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>>175636545
fug

if chroma doesn't count then banshee doesn't count either
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at least TQ finally learned and improved his argument after being repeatedly BTFO,
now if he could only explain what he means by them being a "meme"
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>>175636701
I see you literally have no idea of the redcrit argument and typed up a retarded post without even reading the explanation 4 posts above yours
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>>175636701
The funny thing about all of this? DE will believe we are "exploiting" the game.
>>175636773
Iseewhatyoudidthere
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Everyone is reporting this monkey, right? It is the only way we will be able to get rid of him
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See you guys in 8 days.
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>>175630910
Fuck that game, go buy Bayonetta. What a over rated hunk of shit.
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>/wfg/ is a backyard filled with happy little anons
>all the little anons run around talking and playing make believe
>whenever a new anon comes over to play all the other anons make him go play with the OP toys in the corner for a while, then accept him into the group after a little bit of bullying
>one day little tq comes to the backyard
>the other kids dont think he is special, and for a while he is normal
>then he sees the OP toys
>little tq thinks for a moment, then starts eating grass, rocks, and small bugs
>little tq shits his pants, then takes them off and props them up with sticks
>little tq proclaims to the rest of the yard that he is now the creator of new toys and his toy is the best toy
>as he gibbers on, other little anons start telling him that he is wrong
>little tq ignores what the other kids say to him and uses his own toys as proof that his toys are best
>after seeing how little he cares for reason, the anons go about their buisness
>every once in a while little tq will throw his shit covered """"toys"""" up into the air and proclaim his superiority
>other anons start to throw rocks at little tq with mean words written on them
>little tq despises these little rocks, however can never tell where they come from
>little tq begins to argue at the little rocks
>more rocks are thrown
>more gibbering
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>>175636805
>literally have no idea of the redcrit argument
I've been one of the assholes dumb enough to vocally argue against tq's retarded shit on crits for quite a while, providing numbers that lend credence to my point and just hanging my head in frustration every time I see the same tired argument and misguided direction play out again

the "explanation" offered 4 posts above my post is littered with rhetoric and presuppositions and overall that overshadow the small amount of text which weighs in on the objective mechanics or interpretations of how useful or worthwhile as a "goal" (in such limited contexts as it is even possible to aim for) redcrits might be

TQ is not to be considered an authority on anything, and certainly not the paragon or bastion of enlightenment he presents himself to be
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>>175637339
your arguments are literally the same arguments I laid out. Are you fucking retarded? Are you this incapable of reading comprehension>
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>>175637339
You do realize that's TQ himself, samefagging, right?
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>>175636896
Get banned for falseflagging or roll snakeeyes and have a moderater purge chain delete all of the posts.

Its a literal gamble and its retarded that it has to be. Thx hiro
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>>175637204
never stop posting this, anon

it drives me to tears of laughter every time
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>>175637424
sometimes it's worth giving the benefit of the doubt that it's some misguided soul listening to his garbage, 90% of the time it turns out it's just tq

I wish he would just trip and make everyone's time here easier
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>>175637574
inb4 samefagging
i will anon, i will
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>>175637617
>spend a post laying out an argument while simultaneously shittalking an identical argument laid out a few posts earlier
you're not very intelligent, are you?
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>>175633274
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>>175635954
If the numbers aren't red, you're better off dead.
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Why can't Red Crits and Yellow Crits just get along?
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>>175637339
you are either niave or new, i suppose since we are dealing with tq that is forgivable

tq asks questions and then dumps pastebins worth of stuff in reply to himself.
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>>175637868
they do in 95% of the current company. the problem is tq and his knee jerk reactions
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>>175636896
It's the only reason I don't use the filters.
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>>175638201
same, but also for pic related
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>>175637868
>class mixing
gross
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>>175638312
Aren't there wimpy Red Crits that aren't the same as other, better Red Crits though? How do 4x crits get along with 2x crits?
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>>175638412
>Aren't there wimpy Red Crits that aren't the same as other, better Red Crits though?
yes, it depends on the modding
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you know people are getting desperate when they pull out the samefag accusations
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>>175638516
>people can notice blatant patterns

Gee, what an astounding discovery!
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>>175638412
> How do 4x crits get along with 2x crits?
Nothing wrong with someone preferring a feminine crit. Maybe they like the size difference.

It's the dirty yellow crits that are the problem.
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>>175638516
>>175638614
2 minutes apart is a pattern
did i do good coach?
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>Want to be Sonic
>Realizes Sonic has an ugly as fuck Color Scheme that only works for him

On to Megaman
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>>175638806
>sanic
>ivara
lol XXDD
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IM BYAAAAAACK!!

https://youtu.be/33D2TeVyXlA
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>>175638696
the pattern is that whoever defends TQ is TQ
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>>175637204
Fuck off Nezha is best frame
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>>175637170
Maybe you'll think about all the innocent tubemen you murdered.
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>>175639110
youre not wrong, although playing devils advocate is sometimes required.
I usually make sure to inject some memes and fuccboi attitude into my posts so im not mistaken for him

>>175639134
dont blame me, blame the professor
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>>175639156
I didn't even murder that many compared to what the wiki said...
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>>175639051
BAaAAck~~~~
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>>175638806
I feel like that looks pretty good, gives off those Metal Sonic vibes.

Now you just need to change that ugly helmet.
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H-hey guys. How about that Z-zephyr prime?
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>>175639528
but all ivara helmets are ugly
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>>175639579
Not metallic enough
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>>175639579
For a stutter on a proper noun the second iteration of the stuttered letter should still be capitalized, you worthless sub-autismal fuck.
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>>175639689
O-okay s-Sorryuguuu~
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>>175639051
>asmr
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>>175639750
You may be
>merely pretending
But I am 100% retarded and I will shit fury down your neck. I'm on more meds than TQ's STD riddled mother, come at me fucker.
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>>175639579
are you colorblind
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>>175638025
I don't have the luxury of being new, it's just naivete

>>175637797
but the arguments are not identical, they may be rooted in a similar line of thought but diverge on a few specific and somewhat crucial points as far as their conclusions; you're not very observant, are you?
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>>175639974
No, just not autistic enough to care. Enjoy living a life struggling with a mental disability you obsessive compulsive dipshit.
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>>175639580
Rude. And I ran out of ideas. Megaman is a shit also. We need new color packs that add textures like Matte.

This will never happen.
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It's time for weapons to have Exilus-like slots for Rivens.
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>>175640853
since we never really got the augment slots they promised us (technically a few augments are exilus mods now?), they should make all rivens and augments count as exilus and just literally add exilus slots to weapons

maybe things like hush or fast hands could be exilus too
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>>175641049
>technically a few augments are exilus mods now?
nope
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I have a question:
I have a max power efficiency and Zenurik active 3 minutes into the mission.
Is there a benefit to adding power max to this when I already have near-infinite energy? What is the point of power max in this game when it seems like energy is so plentiful even without Zenurik/Trinity, + there isn't much benefit to pooling it up? What am I missing?
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>>175641189
did they change hysterical assault and escape velocity? I think there were more but now I can't recall
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>>175641378
Oh shit you're right
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>>175641371
more casts per full pool means you can spam something harder in longer bursts even if it outpaces your energy intake, as well as giving you a higher potential benefit from something like quick thinking (meaning zenurik/ev are that much more valuable), and in situations where you haven't yet (quick runs) or won't ever (solo without ES etc) in that mission have access to an endless fountain of energy it can allow you to build up a greater reserve and maintain constant uptime on abilities (or give a greater buffer for instance if you use a better-than-sustainable invis build with ES)

with or without considering those infinite energy sources, there's always the question of whether to prioritize power efficiency (more specifically, minimize power cost) or energy max, and if you can maximize each then the other will be of more potential relative benefit, but if you have other competing choices than flow/pflow and you know you'll have an energy source then it's probably not worth prioritizing over your other power stats
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>>175627332
So, basically you'll throw a tantrum until people agree with you? Good to know
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>>175641771
Hmm... so wait, a bigger pool means a faster Zenurik? That seems worth it.

I'm using a build that only needs Strength + Efficiency + augments, so maybe I can fit a Primed Flow in somehow. Thanks.
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>>175642374
For well over a year and still sperging strong.
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Discuss Status Duration /wfg/

When is it viable? Should you ever keep a Riven with +Status Duration
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>>175642567
>a bigger pool means a faster Zenurik?
what no, I didn't mean to give the wrong impression but I don't think I said that at all - almost any energy income in the game is based on flat rates per time or per instance, very little if anything scales with your max energy

tl;dr it's worth it, sometimes, situationally
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>>175642659
Oh, my bad.

I did notice Zenurik went a lot slower when the Max Energy debuff is active in sorties, is that just the modifier then and has nothing to do with my pool maxing out at 37?
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>>175642732
that's correct, or more specifically (and problematically) the sortie debuff is not just for max energy but also for all energy gains
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>>175642829
got it.
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>>175642590
You faggots I'm not TeeQue. DISCUSS GOD DAMN IT.
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>>175642993
fuck off tq
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>>175643262
don't give him (You)s retard
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Yee I finally managed to waste cryotic!
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>>175630481
For some reasons every time i do a mission with enemy higher than 30 i see people just die over and over, like mot survival neo fissure yesterday i did like 50 revives in 2 runs, the third time i was done and did it by myself. I mean im sayi g im pro but is a survival take something with some fucking survavibility in not that hard
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>>175644383
*not saying im pro
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>>175643909
You know what something DE would do with cryotic?
Make super Kuva. Where you fuse kuva and krotic to make the stats you want on a roll or retain a stat.
>>
I haven't played in like a year

How is the game now? Also I'm in console so that'd change a bunch, unless the updates have caught up
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>>175644693
>iced menstrual blood
That's some prime starbucks shit right there.
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>>175644693
Or space cocaine where you mix pulverized oxium anf cryotic. Snorting pace cocaine gives you 5 energy regen for second and works also with channeled abilities at the cost of 75% of your hp for all the duration of the effect. The effect last 30 seconds.
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>>175644746
Almost nothing has changed, they just added new shinies and maybe a new quest you haven't seen yet.
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Heavy cal on zarr or nah?
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>>175645204
Yes because it changes very little to Zarr.
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>>175645276
Okay, I wasn't sure if it was the orgis in terms of accuracy.
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>>175645351
8==(=(_)
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I'm always missing fucking annoying mats, I don't know why I'm so low on simple stuff like Gallium, Neural Sensors and Plastids. Orokin Cells? No problem. Forma? Easy, I get plenty from Void Relics. Plastids? No.

I don't understand what I was doing these first 15 MR to not have the simple stuff.
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>>175645403
What kind of fucking abstract dick do you have there nnon
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>>175645754
looks like a tranny
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>>175645351
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>>175645895
>>175645403
Watch DE steal this dick concept for a future weapon
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>>175646116
look at this concept art I stole from mynki, I also stole his lunch money and real dolls
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>>175646328
that's just a kraken without the scope
>>
I liked the Kraken back in 2012.
>>
I liked the Burston Prime back in 2013.
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>>175646448
I still like the kraken. Then again I have an okay riven for it.
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>>175646328
>>175645403
>8==(=(_)

You're lucky I'm not with DE now haha
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>>175646708
that's just fragor brokk skin with a magnet attached to it
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>Observe how nu/wfg/leddit becomes silent from their disgust of penis gunz
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>>175644383
I had that issue when I was a noob and just switched from rhino. Then I learned that frames actually have powers, there's zenurik, and cc is the name of the game.
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>>175649039
you need to complete war within quest
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>>175649892
Thanks for answering. I found out just shortly after asking, that's why I deleted the post.
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I know Im gonna sound like a goddamn idiot, but in LoR what the actual fuck do you do during the pads part? How can you tell where to stand? Which is the correct one to stand on?
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>>175650201
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/The_Law_of_Retribution the second phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGxoloNQpks fast forward to 3:30
Sorry to type out is too long just read + watch the vid it's easier.
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>tfw need forma
>tfw too shit

reee
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>>175648420
Im not talking about noobs, i was noob too we all were noobs, im talking about people with limbos, slow novas, and such dying over and over and over and shit talking in chat, plus one of these retards had a synthesys target i connected later to the game so i didnt know about it, this guy used the slow ability on a crowd with the target in it, with all the mess going in, the multiple lights and particles and shit, symaris being slow at always at saying "there it is! Perform the synthesis so i can and whatever" and me with a full upgraded vaykor hek i killed the guy on accident, and the retard after wrote: "pff you know you are bad when you kill the target at mr10" obviously he died in the process and i went to revive him since im kind soul.
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If you had to "eliminate" /wfg/ what would be the top 5 things you would remove? We need to make /wfg/ great again.
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>>175652320
You
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>>175652320
waifufags and similar faggots
nothing else
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>>175652320
That's easy, I would remove
>Warframe
>DE
>/wfg/
>
>
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>>175651461
forma is almost guaranteed doing relic runs
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>>175652320
I would eliminate warframe.

General can't help being shit if the game is also shit.

> Inb4 y u play

Cuz my friends have no taste in vidya.
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I used to laugh when browsing /wfg/ I just don't know now.
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>tfw Chinkframe will have the chance to get back 2 back Rivens

http://www.mcprc.gov.cn/whzx/bnsjdt/whscs/201612/t20161205_464422.html
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>>175652638
You play a game you dont like and you stay su wfg...the options are 2. 1) you are fucking stupid 2) you are trolling people c) kill yourself
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>>175652865
> This butthurt
It's alright to like trash anon. I love sweetart jelly beans. They're garbage but I love them.
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>>175652320
maybe just tierqueer, forumshitters who come here to advocate going slow and bitch about killstealing, and ledditors who come to find shit to harvest for reposting for internet points; even then, I'd hesitate to really remove any facet of the place that didn't simply decay or fall away organically
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>>175646078
>ywn have this view
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>>175653016
>sweetart jelly beans are garbage
take it back
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>>175653471
THEY SELL THEM AT THE DOLLAR TREE ANON.

THE DOLLAR TREE.
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>>175653563
They also sell Nerds at The Dollar Tree.

I will fight anyone in here who dislikes Nerds.
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>>175646078
M O I S T
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>>175653016
...i honestly dont care if you dont like the game or you consider it trash im saying why play it, why stay on wfg, for example i used to play league of legends then i got bored and stop playing it/following it,
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>>175653760
autism
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>>175653760
It's because Warframe has a plethora of ass.

Games with beautiful womenly figures last longer than they should. Unless it's Mirror's Edge 2
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>>175653797
What the fuck are you typing
>>
>Top 7 Ranged Melee
List them please. When will DE add range stats to the arsenal?
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>>175653760
Are you fucking retarded or just autistic?

I have F R I E N D S that like and play warframe. Which I play with them.

I know the concept of maintaining a relationship with another human being is a foreign concept here but for christs sake.
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>>175653818
Fair enough
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>>175653948
I have friends too but i dont play a game i dont like only because they are playing it. You can mantain friendships outside videogames.
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>>175652320
the only two things that made original /wfg/ "great" was there were lots more OC lewds and comics and warbros being a serious min/max powergaming clan resulted in the threads not tolerating any casual faggotry
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>>175654417
>casual faggotry
You called?
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>>175634279
>1) people keep mistaking you for a girl with videos on Youtube
>2) need plat
It seems like these problems would solve one another.
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I'm very excited now.
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>>175654846
why
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>>175655015
The anticipation, ooooh. I always learn so much, from a live dissection.
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>>175655132
*sigh*
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>>175650769
Thanks Anon this actually really helped.

Have some Jester-butt
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Octavia's 1 stops working when you're in a group. For some reason her 1's aggro cancels out when other factions are around. Everyone has to be invisible plus not killing faster than you for her to work. They should give her Mallet the same type of Aggro Pre-Nerf Rhino had, better yet her 2.
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no money til thursday :'(

If I got this just one day later I would have been able to use it
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>Kuva Flood
>Kuva Guard strikes Corpus Systems
>Pay no mind because Data Mass was not inserted
>Finish Kuva
>Insert Data
>Corpus Systems has no shields with 10,000 health left
J U S T
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>>175656376
>using all your money at one time
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>>175656376
leave the pc with warframe on and dont claim it till tomorrow
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>>175639785
Nezha is such a nasty slut
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>>175656376
>Spending money on this shit
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>>175657080
Lol nice joke.
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>>175657346
>75% off plat
That's dirty cheap. Considering even minimum wage will always me more money/time efficient irl than the equivalent time you'd spend grinding for plat? Yeah, way worth it. Why spend multiple hours trying to get the parts you need when the wages of one hour (and that's burger-flipper wages tier) could buy you two or four times that? Time is money etc.
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>>175657437
don't justify yourself, spending money on it is okay if you earn it
it's your money after all
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>when someone goes faster than you
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>>175658262
:^)
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is n00blshowtek's mesa build good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmoFx-am7M&t=280s
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>>175658285
someone said you were banned a while back
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>>175658563
Handled it
>>
I just watched a guy pick forma over saryn prime BP. I am physically hurting.
>>
Which prime frames have an actual advantage over the normal ones? I know rhino has extra armor and better speed
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>>175658516
it follows frame guide guidelines so it's good

there are better builds though

and his secondary build on mesa is garbage
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I just realized I got tricked into spending more time in this game to farm kuva again because of this fucking promo booster

I'll never be free
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>>175659023
any online mesa builds you can recommend that are better than his?
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>>175659416
try this one some guy with 2k+ hours made it so you know it HAS to be good
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>>175659516
Woah, look how he optomized his points. If those where max rank he would have to add more forma and fuck that.
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>>175659516
what about secondaries?
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>>175658963
All of them, including the founder exclusive one.
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>>175659217
We were doomed from the beginning. Only thing that will save us from Warframe is Warframe 2
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>>175659798
Really? I thought most of them were just cosmetic+pre forma-d
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>>175659958
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>>175659960
Most differences don't matter, but some have clear advantages like higher armor for more effective health value, or higher base energy which overlaps into QT health or better usability when casting and modding.
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>>175659960
All of them have either a power max, sprint speed, armor, health or shield buff. Like Volt P gets twice the energy capacity and some armor.
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Didn't play since Ivara release.
Did the game change much?
How is Ivara atm?
Titania ult looks fun, is she any good?
They both are shit, aren't they...
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>>175659217
It's pretty comfy solo as Limbo.

Trying to get the kat buff to proc is hell through. I think I've only had it happen once.
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>>175660424
does it even work anymore? now that the kuva is an end of mission reward
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>>175660393
Ivara is really good for stealth. Titania is pretty good too.
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>>175660393
Use shotguns with Titania's ULT (Multishot)
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>>175660393
ivara is good, titania is not
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>>175660393
ivara is useful for area cc, camping, looting, or stealth if you want to go slow as shit, and titania is fucking useless except for her passive which makes her one of the fastest frames along with mirage
>>
>>175656376
If you're living paycheck to paycheck you probably shouldn't be buying plat.
>>175660492
I didn't think it did, but from what I gathered from the thread yesterday, what was happening was Kuva was rewarded directly to you and you could just quit the mission and redo it and collect the Kuva again.

I also got 2500 from a normal mission with a kat buff active so it might still work. Still at the time of collector detonation.
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>>175660574
"real" vet here. eat shit TQ
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>>175660931
you wanna know how I know you suck?
>>
>>175661098
because I hurt your fee fees?
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>>175661461
because you sling insults around with any sort of reasons to back them up
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>>175653929
Any Gunblade (but Sarpa is currently bugged and useless) > Any Glaive (Prime is best) > Whip Swords (when equipped and using the wire) > Whips > Orthos Prime > Jat Kittag > pretty much every other two-handed weapon.
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>arguing with tierqueer
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>>175661693
tq btfo
how will he ever recover
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welp, time to go grind out a miter blueprint again
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>>175661639
Pot and Kettle you autistic fuck
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>>175661975
all my reasons are already stated clearly in the frame guide m8

it's hilarious that people think slinging insults around, without any sort of evidence and proof, will get ANYONE to believe them, much less the person they're insulting

arguments aren't won by screaming the loudest. Not unless you're a little kid or trump
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>>175662080
you are a testament to your own preaching, do you really not see the hypocrisy here?
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>>175662217
>frame guide clearly explains my thoughts regarding frames
>meanwhile butthurt shitters just spout insults
>hypocrisy
what did he mean by this?
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When should I use Viral? I always have either Corrosive, Magnetic, or Gas on my weapons so I can never build it.
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>>175661639
>reasons

you're a smug cunt
is the tierlist for soloing? does it consider team synergies?
loki is "elder god tier" so is it ok to bring 4 to endless defense?
zephyr niche build weapon synergy changes function of warframe to dmg? lawl
your tierlist isn't made to help anyone, new or old
it's useless, just to feed your own feeble ego.
also myopinionsarefacts.jpg attitude era. fuck off

mental gymnastics incoming
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>>175661943
I wish they had given it a little more crit when they buffed it. Exactly 5% more, actually.

It's fun spreading hallways full of enemies with slash procs
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>>175662621
>is the tierlist for soloing? does it consider team synergies?
answered in the intro, glad you can't read

>loki is "elder god tier" so is it ok to bring 4 to endless defense?
it doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to figure out when and when not to use certain builds

>zephyr niche build weapon synergy changes function of warframe to dmg?
>build is meant for damage
>"not damage"
what did he mean by this?

The underlying assumption here is, of course, that even though this particular poster my disagree with my tiering of frames, he understands that all the frame builds given in the guide - the most important part of the guide - are all correct.
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>>175662080
And yet you devolve into smug_anime_girl and "tardcucks" like some of the best.
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>>175662804
it's from the older era where they much more regularly did weapons with 0-5% crit chance, even shit like 2.5%, so yeah it really seems like since they were touching it up they should have "modernized" it a little with a bit more

I tried it a few times when I was still pretty low mr, but sold it for slots like so many other pieces of fodder back then
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>>175663025
if someone posts nothing but insults, do you seriously expect me to reply with well-reasoned arguments?
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>>175637170
Is it worth it at least?
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>>175662815
>answered in the intro, glad you can't read
no it doesn't, just says sortie and "endgame"

>it doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to figure out when and when not to use certain builds
as stated before, who are you making this for? new players aren't going to know.

>what did he mean by this?
zephyr isn't a damage frame

>>175663105
>if someone posts nothing but insults, do you seriously expect me to reply with well-reasoned arguments?
we don't expect that even when you're not insulted :^).
but when his fee fees are hurt, he can't think straight.....good to know.
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holy shit I love omaewamoushindeiruing on lech kril's ass with bleed procs and bulletjumping away but this too fucking long
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>>175663105
Better to not reply at all instead of being a hypocrite.
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>>175663432
I have to do this again just so can keep using Miter and have a Panthera to try.

Not looking forward to the buggy grind again.
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>>175663363
>Frames are tiered based on their endgame potential, prioritizing group play, though solo play is also taken into account.
>"is the tierlist for soloing? does it consider team synergies?"

oh my god you really are illiterate

Bringing shit like Loki/Nova to defense missions is clearly suboptimal, but if you can't do the mission any other way - a concern if you're new - then it's fine. I see slovvas in defenses, and even though I alt+f4 whenever I see one, clearly pubs can't survive without it. You're giving people too little credit and making something much more complex than it needs to be.

Zephyr was a very strong damage frame with the Tonkor build by all definitions of the term "Damage." After Tonkor's nerf I'll be perfectly fine without taking out that damage role from her since it's no longer nearly as powerful, but her previous Tonkor build definitely counted as a damage build.

>>175663452
nah
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>>175663568
I really just wish kril would behave more consistently so you could get each phase the fuck over with instead of having to wait around all day for him to do the right attack
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What's the fastest possible melee weapon in game? I want to attack really really fast. Currently lamo2dagger seems really good, can I go faster?
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>>175663882
Obex punches really fast.

Something like Dual Kamas Prime and other dual swords are silly fast from quick melee.

Tipedo smacks bitches with a stick pretty fast.
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>>175663721
I resorted to speed Nova for a little while with pubs, speeds up his actions and he goes through the cycles faster. Still can bug out and not freeze himself due to whatever reason.
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>>175663667
no where does it say that in this img >>175660574
is it in your new and improved 0.3 list ?

It's the Tonkor doing all the damage not the Zephyr
Assimilate Nyx can blast enemies point black with a tonk, penta, or kulstar. does that make her a damage frame?

>Bringing shit like Loki/Nova to defense missions is clearly suboptimal
according to your list they can perform multiple roles well. so why not bring them to defense?

>You're giving people too little credit
oh that's rich coming from you.
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>>175663667
Zephyr's Tailwind aug is more a usability buff for projectile weapons. It didn't make the Tonkor do any more damage, you could do the same thing with perfect aim or something from across the map. Ivara's navigator is a damage skill in the same way as Tailwind is a damage skill. Even more so, actually.

Zephyr + Sonicor also qualifies for a CC frame since you can stunlock and ragdoll anything within 50m due to how flight speed works with it.
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>>175663882
>Amphis will never get a buff/wraith and become the fastest staff again
>Amphis will never have a purpose again
I just wanna be a MagnaGuard again and actually be useful.
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>>175664582
Amphis Wraith when?
Grinlok Wraith when?
Twin Gremlins Wraith when?
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>>175664793
I'd give so much for an Amphis Wraith, I don't need it to be god tier or anything, just usable.
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>>175664281
it's in the actual guide itself. Did you really spend so much time arguing with me while having no idea of the document everyone is actually speaking of? As if we ever needed more proof tierhaters are retards

>>175664341
Tonkor zeph significantly improved the effectiveness of the tonkor, much more so than just a regular tonkor. Even if it didn't buff the damage, it allowed you to fire a lot more rounds and at greater distances with better positioning. There's a significant difference between a Zephyr wielding a Tonkor and a regular frame wielding a Tonkor. Was, at least. After the Tonkor nerf it's debatable

Sonicor zeph is just too niche to include
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>>175665550
and now I figure out writing "tards" automatically marks your post as spam, spent 3 minutes reformmating my fucking post until I changed "tard" to "retard." what the fuck 4chan?
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>>175665550
why are you taking credit for the pastebin now, it existed long before you and your nonsense.
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>>175666114
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>>175666403
can you not post ding dong in this retarded argument
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>>175666403
If not titled bait, I would not know that's what you were trying to convey.
Use your DING DONG more effectively.
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>>175666521
the only thing you got right is this argument is retarded
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>>175666580
that was the only thing i said
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>>175666580
because TQ reasons
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Setting the record straight once and for all:

>original OP had a frame FAQ that was utter garbage
>guy in charge of OP deleted it and replaced it with the tier list frame guide
>but he just copy+pasted the tier list over instead of linking it because he's a faggot
>tier list is now in the OP, but because OPfag never updates it's months behind
>for always up-to-date info, use the actual tier list frame guide https://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG
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>>175666573
>>175666403
why is it bait? Is Tier Queer actually the author of sticky guide we all know and love?
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>>175666987
I'm not really following the conversation at all, just stating your misuse of ding dong. Nerd.
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>>175666987
i dont care about the argument at all, i just hate seeing cute angels being associated with retards
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>>175666987
there are 2 guides in the OP, one is good the other is complete garbage. which guide are you talking about?
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>>175666951
You might be almost bearable if you didn't insist on using obnoxious anime girls with all your posts.
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>>175665550
>Tonkor zeph significantly improved the effectiveness of the tonkor,

It's still the Tonk doing all the damage faglord
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>>175666951
>tier list is now in the OP
what OP are you looking at? The one that is actually there doesnt have any tierlists
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>>175667065
>>175667154
>>175666521
>all the shadowverseffags

holy shit why so mad. I don't even play that shitty game, I just liked the .gif
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>>175667287
then stop using it wrong
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>>175667167
which is the Additional one?
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>>175667207
is this what we've come to? Arguing over utterly trivial definitions of what constitutes a "damage" build?

>>175667412
>Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22
actual good guide stolen from the tier list, unfortunately OPfag never updates so it's months behind, too lazy to check but I don't think Octavia's even in there yet

>Frames and Modding: https://pastebin.com/D8Ckdz0c
the shitty one made by a retard who can't play the game
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Hmmmmmmm...
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>>175667580
>stolen from the tier list
not even close
its been around longer than you

also, its been updated frequently

>retard who can't play the game
explain, im sure you have a good reason behind it
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>>175667580

>Arguing over utterly trivial definitions of what constitutes a "damage" build?
oh now you want to stop being autistic when it suits you?
what a disingenuous scumfuck.


>guide stolen from the tier list
wut
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>>175668137
>>175668173
>being THIS new
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>>175668284
Youre just insulting me for the sake of it

Give your reasoning for saying that I am new, and give your reasoning for saying "who can't play the game"

Time to put your brain to use, tq
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>>175667795
Vastro is getting a buff, So look out for that,
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>>175668480
citation needed
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>>175668284
you sling insults around without any sort of reasons to back them up
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>>175668513
The newest dev stream.
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>>175668381
lmao the people I'm calling new are the retards who didn't even know the OP guide is copy+pasted from the tier list

you're worse than new, you're still shit at the game despite 1k+ hours, that's at the level of traumatic brain injury. Radiant fucking Finish and Rift Surge are totally good augments LMAO

>>175668514
this is what I mean by new as fuck
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>>175668591
at what part? when they talk about sword and gun stance?
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>>175668694
Im still waiting for you to give any good reason why those allegations are true.

I am also waiting for you to give arguments for or against those augments.

Until you put rational thought behind what you are saying you will continue to reinforce the stigma you have created for yourself. You understand, yes?
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>two autists arguing in circles
can we get some butts
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>>175668694
>>175668284
>Tier Queer literally trying to take credit for other people's work
>Tier Queer just responds with dank memes and animoo pics


truly scum
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i know who tom is
here are his stats compared to tq
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>>175668920
>1k+ hours in the game
>still has no idea why radiant finish and rift surge are shit augments

This is what I mean by traumatic brain injury. It's not my job to make your list better. Someone who can't even understand basic mechanics, who relies on spoonfeeding from other players for information, is in no position to make a guide.

If someone else wants to know why these augments are shit I'd be happy to explain it, but not to a retard autist who thinks he's an authority on the game despite not knowing information even a child could figure out
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>>175668783
Yeah the dual wielding.
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>>175669215
Ive clearly said why i believe that rift torrent is good, as well as radiant finish.
You have not ever said why you believe they are bad.

You are not a teacher, and I am not asking to be taught. Im giving you the opportunity to prove that you have justification for what you say.

I am waiting for a rational thought, do you have any?
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>>175669210
>800 more hours
>60m less credits

you can't make this shit up

also
>implying hours played = skill
whew lad
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>>175669193
you wanna know how I know you've been here less than a year?
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>>175669365
>also
>>implying hours played = skill
>whew lad
but
>more credits = skill
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>>175669365
if you are saying credits are important, you are just looking for (you)s

But he does bring up a good point, you cant claim seniority when you have less playtime and much less event participation.

also, he didnt say playtime = skill

STILL waiting for augment belief justification. You will not be able to dodge out of it tq, man up and start explaining.
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>Raptor Sortie
Annoying
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>>175669693
>he's still asking to be spoonfed
maybe you'll ensnare some poor newshitter with your "m-muh radiant finish" bait one day
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>>175669478
memes won't hold up in court against plagiarism charges criminal scum
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>>175669847
>i haven't done raptor since before rework
Should I skip today's final sortie
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>>175669210
post scores
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>>175669913
>someone who tries to create a tierlist for wfg cant even explain why an augment is bad
wew lad

You are dodging. You are stubbornly trying to argue against me because you dont like me. your shortsighted attempt to fight me just for the sake of fighting has overridden your ability to think and type at the same time.

Coward
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>>175670070
No. It's not bad, just more time consuming than your typical Phorid sortie
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>>175670157
>hand me the spoon WAAAAH WHY WON'T YOU HAND ME THE SPOON

if there is a single other person on this general who thinks radiant finish is good, speak up and I'll explain why it's shit
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>>175670304
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>finally install filters
>no more tq
wow, this place got a whole lot better in like 2 minutes
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>>175667580
>>175668137
>>175668173
>use plagiarism checker
> tq -> op having more 16%
>op -> tq having 10%
>removing the literal wiki frame descriptions brings that percentage even lower (making op -> tq related 0%)
>first thing that pops up is ash
>ignoring that both pastebins is just a copypaste frame wiki descriptions
>roles are types the same: common knowledge
>then there is a cut in between
>tierqueer recommends using post-nerf blade storm while the op flat out says dont use it

>this continues through out the entire thing
>op removed tierqueer direct opinions, tiers and every once and while edited lines that seem unnecessary (which is alot) or expanded upon what tierqueen skipped over and lacked knowledge of.
>both guides are just meta info but one is drastically lacking the intention of being purely made for ego machine
>saying its a copy
>"but its a collection of metabuilds"
>he claims ownership of it anyways

and now I just wait for the out of content or selective reading comprehension to reply that either justify this is in fact wrong with no proof of his own or boosts his augment after stating out how they are not the same.
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>>175669210
>TQ did pretty much nothing for events
for what purpose

then again
>tom supported corpus in gradivus
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>>175670304
>inb4 he activated my samefag calling card
TQ you're pathetic
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>>175670491
events are autistic as fuck, not difficult or skillful, just 100% dependent on autism mode grinding. I didn't even bother doing the edge scarf one

>>175670542
>>175670417
what are these suppose to be?
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>>175670485
fucking this

>>175670692
>>175670304
>single other person
start talking
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>>175670485
lmao what the fuck is this? The OP literally copy+pastes build descriptions from the guide, you don't need a supercomputer "plagiarism checker" to see that, just use your fucking eyes
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>>175670149
I'm not sure why grineer informer comes before fusion moa in the list. The fusion moa event was the first one.
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>>175670839
I"m confused. Are you saying you're not topgun and that you want to know why radiant finish/rift surge are shit augments?
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>>175670692
> not difficult or skillful
what's difficult and skillful to you TQ?
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>>175670149
>supporting corpus
you sicken me
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>>175670992
I want to see youre mansplaining why those augments are bad
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>>175671025
knowing that radiant finish and rift surge are shit

>>175671058
and you're not topgun?
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>>175670149
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>>175671139
no
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>>175671032
>not supporting both factions up to 49 and do the last 2 missions at the near end of the event depending on who's winning for maximum profit.
I just didn't mind the weapon, I just wanted that weapon with a slot and a potato.
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>>175670149
I want my hallowed nightmares score displayed
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>>175671358
>not gassing space jew for uncle ruk
REMEMBER MARTIALIS
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Post __cat_ builds.
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>>175671139
>>175671307
you heard him tq

This better be good
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>>175670304
me too, I want to know exactly why radiant finish is bad if you don't want to be locked into using daggers
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>>175671803
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>>175672243
This cat is too angry.

Post lucky cats.
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>>175672432
>using lucky cats that were recently kuva nerfed
Obercuck.
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>>175672614
Maybe I'm trying to get away from using Carrier Prime all the time
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>tq says some augments are bad
>wont say why
>claims that ANYONE other than tom asking why would convince him
>anons call his bluff
>he stops posting
He truly cannot defend his irrational thoughts
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>>175669365
I'm pretty sure that you were shitting on people with less hours played, now that you've been outed, you say that it doesn't matter. The autism is truly astounding.
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>>175672945
maybe his mom opened up his Lunchable for him, and that's why he stopped posting.

also we should never express TQ stopping his posts to be a bad thing.
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>>175672945
>>175673579
I take it back, he is testing right now. He is using excalibur
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>>175673742
you can't make this shit up
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Alright you fags, this is why Radiant Finish is a shitty augment:

1) You don't want to use finisher animations. I've said this many times before, but finisher animations are incredibly inefficient. You don't want to walk up to an enemy and perform the long finisher animation just to kill ONE enemy - this is why frames like Inaros (who can proc CL on demand) are not considered damage frames. Single-target finisher kills are terrible compared to group AOE, and Excal can kill multiple enemies by spamming E in the time it takes him to kill a single enemy.

2) EVEN IF YOU DID USE FINISHER ANIMATIONS, RADIANT FINISH IS USELESS. Stealth damage from Blind already has a massive multiplier. My unoptimized Excal (only 2 forma) already one-shots a lv100 corrupted HG Eximus using a finisher. Radiant Finish is redundant.

Rift Surge is less obscenely awful compared to Radiant Finish. At least Rift Surge isn't totally worthless, which is why I said "some people like it" in the frame guide, but I would still strongly advise against using it, and any guide that includes it needs to mention why it's so awful.

1) Stasis is 100% a CC skill and actively hinders killing things. You should only bring Limbo to missions where you don't want to kill things or want to minimally kill things, e.g. MD, Intercept, Excav, etc. (most missions, actually, don't require you to kill anything). Rift Surge runs completely counter to Limbo's purpose, which is to have 100% lockdown and protection - even if YOU want to kill things, your teammates are still fucked over.

2) Limbo doesn't want to build STR. Literally none of his abilities scale with STR, you have to slot in both the augment as well as STR mods in order to make the build work. Those mod slots are much better suited to improving upon his strengths instead of making him into some sort of slapdash "DPS" frame.

Comment too long so I'll end it here. These are only 2 of the many flaws I picked up from a quick skim half of the shitter guide.
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stopped playing right before they changed void keys to whatever the fuck the new system is and riven mods. Is there any other big changes or new things I should know about before playing again
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>>175673742
>>175673813
calm your tits, it's been ages since I played Excal and I don't remember how many forma I had in him. Wanted some hard proof of why RF is worthless so ran a test on lv100 corrupted HG
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>>175670304
>radiant finish increases your damage on the best Excal build that has max range
There's nothing bad about it.
>Rift surge increases damage for Limbo based on surge enemies
Basically free damage for any purpose of killing things with 100k dps melee and making it scale even farther.
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>>175670692
Yeah guys, a Movie Critic doesn't even have to watch movies to know how to critique movies.
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>>175674260
see>>175673894
basically ur stupid
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>>175673894
>stasis actively hinders killing things
>he doesn't have a good melee weapon
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>>175673894
First off, before I peel back the layers on this one, let me address your number one problem.

You do not listen

When I asked you why you thought the augments were bad, the next step would be read what you say and then reply. That is called DISCUSSION. Without it, you make up whatever counterargument you think i will use as you did in this post. But anyway, on with it.

>1)
okay
>2) ... RADIANT FINISH IS USELESS
No. Here is why
1) If you are using Excalibur, you are using a good melee
2) If you are using a good melee, you will not be using a dagger because they are only good for finisher animations (and you agree, animations are to slow)
so 3) If you are using Excalibur you are not using a dagger because of 1) and 2)
4) Since 3) proves that you should not be using a dagger, you cannot be using Covert Lethality
5) Since 4), Radiant Finish is a substitute for Covert Lethality.

>1) Stasis Limbo
This really shoudnt have been an arguement, because Rift Torrent Limbo is not a Stasis Limbo. Irrelevant
>2) . . . Literally none of his abilities scale with strength
Correct, unless you are using Rift Torrent. If you are using Rift Torrent, you are building strength. Also an irrelevant point

All you have done is outlined when you use RF/RT, not describe why they are bad. You have failed at explaining why these two mods are bad.
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>>175673894
>You don't want to use finisher animations
under many circumstances the cost in time for killing with finishers, which can be made quite rapid, is well worth the increased damage (guaranteed kill up to a much higher range of enemy with the augment)
>Excal can kill multiple enemies by spamming E in the time it takes him to kill a single enemy
this will in many situations simply not be the case

>You should only bring Limbo to missions where you don't want to kill things
this simply isn't true, he offers the sort of effective personal invulnerability which is dynamically applicable to many purposes, but more straightforward is that while his ability to lock down an area safely may come at the cost of limiting projectile weapons (in which case the rift torrent argument is still applicable because you still have your melee weapon, and teammates still have theirs and any powers) he is not forced to use stasis and can easily treat the cata bubble like a two-way-blocking snowglobe with infinite health and turn it into a zone of extreme damage for enemies
>Limbo doesn't want to build STR. Literally none of his abilities scale with STR
it's beside the point because you would have a build that focused on the use of rift surge utilize power strength, but you are literally fucking wrong you retard

after all of this pantiebunching for fucking MONTHS, or maybe a year or more, on this single fucking issue, you're just fucking flat out wrong as they're both cases of additional situational damage which can easily exceed other options in the appropriate situations at the cost of a mod slot; you've "proven" nothing, as expected

tl;dr yeah well that's just you know like your opinion man
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>>175673894
Jat Kittag with scaling augment comes to mind as a prime example for letting single target DPS/finishers have a purpose and crowd kill utility.
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>First riven mod in fucking weeks
>Solo a level 30 Interception with Hobbled Key
What's the go-to place for this?

Taking bets as to what it is
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>>175674802
so you agree that you shouldn't use stealth finishers in the first place. At least we can agree on that.

Radiant Finish isn't a fucking substitute for Covert Lethality. YOU DON'T NEED A FUCKING SUBSITUTE FOR COVERT LETHALITY. You already one-shot everything using stealth finishers WITHOUT radiant finish OR CL, you're a giant fucking retard holy shit

Rift Torrent is a garbage build, that's my entire point. Saying they "different" doesn't fucking mean jack shit. My nullstar nova build is "different" from my MP build but that doesn't mean it's good or even useful.

It's like you're allergic to comparison, you can't see why X is better than Y and the only thing you know is that they're different, and when someone explains to you why one thing is better than another thing your autistic mind literally cannot comprehend why.
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>>175674802
>Radiant Finish is a substitute for Covert Lethality.
I thought this was implicit so I didn't even mention it in my post, but this is one of the reasons I hold it's a useful augment even in light of its heavy relative cost because it's a fucking dynamic option to have any time that takes a very very long time to stop working as effectively as CL
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>>175675345
one possible exception that's irrelevant to the discussion at hand since EB cannot use augments

>>175675313
>under many circumstances the cost in time for killing with finishers, which can be made quite rapid, is well worth the increased damage
First of all, this is extremely rare and only ever true if you're terrible at the game and modding incorrectly. EB already receives an 8x damage multiplier from Blind. Second of all, even if you DO use finishers once in a while, your finishers will already kill everything without fucking radiant finish.

>Limbo can easily treat the cata bubble like a two-way-blocking snowglobe with infinite health and turn it into a zone of extreme damage for enemies
fucking stupid. Cata without Stasis is literally what Limbo was like prior to his rework. Congratulaions, you're literally defending pre-nerf Limbo, one of the worst frames in the game.

god you are FUCKING stupid
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New player here, almost MR3, currently using the default shit, Excalibur, Skana, MK1-Braton, Lato all at max rank and I notice it's getting harder to kill level 11+ mobs. I've got mods in everything and I'm almost done building rhino but is there a better weapon I should be aiming for or something to make the grind easier?
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>>175675690
>more unsubstantiated opinion and rhetoric
jesus christ just fuck off with your shitty """""""""guide""""""""" and your malformed opinions already
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>>175675375
Xini is easy
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>>175675702
the standard Braton should be able to be purchased with credits in the marketplace

it's a straight upgrade to the mk-1 version
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Speaking of finishers and efficient crowd clearing, Valkyr max range with her 3 augment is fun and useful.
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>>175675445
>YOU DON'T NEED A FUCKING SUBSITUTE FOR COVERT LETHALITY
You tested on level 100, but thats like testing on wet bread. See points 1-5 in my post.
>Rift Torrent is a garbage build, that's my entire point
Huh, thats funny because up until this point you have been saying "Rift Torrent is bad" but never mentioned the build. Are you now saying that the augment is good but my build is bad? That would be odd, because ive never posted a build for Rift Torrent
> "different" doesn't fucking mean jack shit
It absolutely does. Of course Rift Torrent is a bad mod to use if you have 40% strength on a stasis build. This is basic stuff: Mod for the purpose of the build.

>>175675551
>I thought this was implicit
I did as well
If tq had actually joined this conversation sooner he would have found this out the easy way.
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>>175675895
>m-muh lv200 endless enemies
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>>175675702
Would recommend reaching MR4 and building a shotgun like Hek or Sobek
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>>175675947
>your only counterarguements is that you will not be fighting difficult enemies
confirmed, cannot justify his own opinions
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>>175676013
>still does long endless runs
>admitting to autism
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>>175676096
>dodging the collapse of his own failing arguments with more of the same hypocritical ad hominem
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>>175676096
Again, youre only argument for not using Radial Blind is that you are fighting low level enemies. This is forums-level reasoning
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>>175675690
No one said anything about always being in EB or not using Stasis.

Which is why I mentioned Kittag. Hammers have the highest finisher multiplier without CL in consideration.

>no Stasis
This was not said. The nature of Rift torrent and Stasis lets you spread the Rift outside of your smaller, str built bubble as you kill enemies with your bonus damage.
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>it's a "mass warning for falsefagging posts that obviously break rules" ep
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>there are people so bad at modding Excal that they can't kill anything without finishers
>they are SO bad at modding that EVEN WHEN THEY USE FINISHERS they can't kill anything without radiant finish
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>>175676547
>strawmanning
youve lost
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>>175676547
shitter status: rectum ravaged
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>>175675375
Stinger, Mutalist cernos, or lato, depending on whether it's a rifle/shotgun/pistol riven.
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>>175676613
>even when things are explained to him he still can't understand
whew lad, this is even beyond traumatic brain injury tier, this is anencephaly-brain-failed-to-develope-during-pregnancy tier
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>>175676758
It was an MR 13 Synapse Riven

Is the Synapse even good?
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>>175676886
I think it has some neat synergy with volt shield
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>>175676547
>the build is the problem and not the enemy level in question
Stop being so dense
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>>175676826
Its interesting how fast you went from rational arguements to shitposting and dodging. You can tell EXACTLY where you realized that you fucked up and were wrong the whole time.
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>>175676547
Come on do another damage control giveaway like last time, faggot.
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>>175677002
He clearly has a problem admitting anyone else has a good idea, or admitting he was incorrect in any way.

"Med school" is going to be a big wake up.
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>>175677002
anyone whose arguments are "well it doesn't work in m-muh 4h endless runs" is not worth arguing with
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>>175677174
no, you are the one who brought up 4 hour runs. You seem determined to blame me for your fuck up.

I was actually referring to something else
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>tq continues solidifying his role as casual shitter
good thread everyone
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>lv100 HG is the gold standard for damage tests
>"i-it's not good enough!"

what did they mean by this?
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>Mutagen mass is less consistent than goddamn Alertium
>Every Bio Research weapon requires at least five of it
EAT
DICKS
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>>175677428
>gold standard
never has been, never will be. Youre just shy that you cant test on level 145

Its too late tq, you are dead in the water
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Why are their so many oberon apologist?

As a community as a whole it seems like oberon defies logic when the community has determined restrictions on other frames.
>ember is good for nuking missions under 30
>vauban is master at CC and nothing else
But when there are other frams that offer the same abilities (and better at that) then oberon people are "oh he's not that bad, he is good for certain situations. Nigga just use rhino, nezha, octavtia, titania.

I just hate how oberon is not defined at all into a catagory but is "he's still okay"
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>>175677154
He'll still be shitposting here while pajeet pooinloo and a roomba outcompete him for all the jobs.
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Why even optimize for enemy difficulty when you can just take off all your mods on wep/frame and play vs lvl 30 enemies on Ceres for similar difficulty
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>>175677775
Well oberon is recognized as a jack of all trades, master of none. Technically he can do every role in the game, but none of it good. He actually does fill a niche now, just a really tiny one

Ember/vauban are both REALLY good at their niche. Yes, others cover that niche too, but they are the most straightforward, afk-able, sleek-able, etc. way to do it.
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>>175677596
>screencapping your own retardation
whew lad, do you seriously want people to remember you as the shitter who thinks RF and surge are good augments?

>>175677775
people are salty as fuck whenever their favorite special snowflake builds are rightfully called out as shit.

>>175677885
I dunno m8, autists will autist. Autists say they don't do endless runs any more, and yet they test things on enemies they'll never see outside of long endless runs. It's like they're allergic to logic
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>>175677775
People somehow play it and don't feel, that oberon is as bad as you talk about?
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>>175677986
>want to be remembered
>not understanding the purpose of good ol' tom cruise
but yes
this is a perfect example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_lapidem
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>>175677986
I just recently heard about mot endless runs and how that is some sort of community imposed "endgame" gold standard.

I never understood that and wont waste any of my time proving to shit heads I can run 4 hour mot missions.
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>>175678281
finally someone with an ounce of intelligence
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>>175678104
A little consistancy in overall community understandings of frames is all.

There are other frames that offer statues immunity, rad procs, damage buffs but none of that is every mentioned when talking about oberon. Its literally "Ya he's good at this, this, and this!" No negativity at all.
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>>175678471
Because he's literally good "at this, this and this". He isn't best and op, but he's good. Only thing Oberon can't into is damage with abilities.
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>>175678254
heh
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>>175676547
Damn did you get BTFO'd again? Give us some free plat faggot
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I got a pistol riven that I can't be bothered to unlock. How much plat can I sell this for?
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>lv100 is not high enough for damage tests
>even though literally every damage test, including gottfust calculator, utilizes lv100 HG as the gold standard
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>>175679871
That's it. I've had enough.

TIME TO LOAD THEM FILTERS UP.

This stupid FUCK does not realize we did not have level 140~ back then to test on.
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>>175629058
Corpus genocide.
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>>175679871
>literally every damage test

lies
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>>175680050
but why would you test on lv140 enemies? You can't be autistic enough to still do endless runs, right?
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>>175639156
SHE DOESN'T LOVE YOU
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>>175679871
gotts is at 100 because it was made a long time ago

again, youre just shy that you cant test against lvl 145, so you create a false "golden standard"

btfo
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>>175679871
Every youtuber uses 140. Reddit uses it. Official forums use it.

Either your false TQ ruse is slipping or TQ is literally trying to start a new trend.
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>>175679871
Is this true?
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>>175680234
see>>175680137

>>175680274
[citation needed]
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>>175680137
>fighting lvl 140 is autistic
>doing events is autistic

sorties are endgame for TQ
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>>175680137
Its a community standard. Him, you, especially me might not care at all about hitting 140 but it is the standard.
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>>175680317
>samefagging
youre pretty desperate

reminder, this is the person who couldnt hold a logical arguement for more than 2 posts
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>>175680416
[citation needed]
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>>175680137
>TQ calling anyone autistic

Thirteen months. You have been sperging out for at least thirteen months TQ, you are in no position to call anyone autistic.
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>barring autism mode endless runs, the highest enemy level you'll face is 100 in sorties
>the tankiest enemy you'll face is lv100 HG
>"let's test on lv140 enemies"

Think about it for a moment. Let your brain process the words. Reflect upon the hidden meaning. Compare it to established and dead hermetic philosophies. Conduct rigorous scientific testing. Search the literature for contemporary articles about the topic. Discuss the matter with a trusted confidant. Open the floor to a wider audience. Accept input from a wide variety of ages, genders, ethnicities, and socioeconomic classes. Develop your thoughts into a thesis. Have it peer-reviewed by acknowledged experts in the field. Submit it to a well-established journal. Let your work define the zeitgeist for generations to come.

Only then will you realize how monumentally retarded topgun is.
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>>175680317
Are you serious? Just look at any build video on youtube.

https://youtu.be/k5Y2Uv5qfnc
https://youtu.be/fXHQE5wxGqA
(This one uses 135 but still closer then your 100)
https://youtu.be/nP-jZHSfPrg

I could literally go on but im not playing that much into your game.
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>>175680606
>retarded topgun
why are you bringing up weapons when we are talking about Radiant Finish?
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>arguing with tierfaggot when he's literally this >>175661693
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quaro armor collection
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>>175680928
>being this new
want to know how I know you suck?
because smug animoo reasons
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>>175680606
>Think about it for a moment.
>Let your brain process the words.
>Reflect upon the hidden meaning.
>Compare it to established and dead hermetic philosophies.
>Conduct rigorous scientific testing.
>Search the literature for contemporary articles about the topic.
>Discuss the matter with a trusted confidant.
>Open the floor to a wider audience.
>Accept input from a wide variety of ages, genders, ethnicities, and socioeconomic classes.
>Develop your thoughts into a thesis.
>Have it peer-reviewed by acknowledged experts in the field.
>ubmit it to a well-established journal.
>Let your work define the zeitgeist for generations to come.
You did none of these with your Excalibur testing.
You did none of these with your tierlist
You did none of these with your pastebin

If you were an academic and got something peer reviewed, then acted like you do now and ignored the review, you would be laughed out of every door you walk through. Thats how PhDs are forced into teaching at high schools. not that youll be getting a PhD, i doubt you will make it through college
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>>175680873
who the fuck are these literal whos? If you search long enough you're going to find people testing shit against ANYTHING. In fact, the most popular form of "testing" by youtubers isn't even controlled simulacrum testing but just mission runs often against lv50 or less enemies and the occasional sortie. Even in the first video you showed, the guy is testing against lv140 fucking BUTCHERS, which is a complete joke. Brozime - someone who's not a literal who - tests against lv50 (lol) enemies. TP just runs lv30 missions. H3dshot, the most intelligent of the bunch, tests against a variety of sortie-level enemies.

The point is, lv100 HG is the most common endgame test as it represents the tankiest enemy you will face in the game. There's literally no point in testing against anything higher, because you will never need it. Anything that can kill a lv100HG can kill everything else in the game.

But this is all straying far from the course. The originial point is that Radiant Finish and Rift Surge are terrible augments.
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How do I fashion up my ball chucking train man of CC?

Every color set I try with Vauban just looks weird.
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>>175680606
>conduct rigorous scientific testing
Im beginning to believe to just steal everyone else's testing and present it as your "own"

>search for literafure
Ya, you probably steal it since you have no idea outside of what you talk about

>discuss
You dont. You present as your own and impose it as best

>open the floor to wider conversation
You dont post outside of wfg

>accept input
BBAAHHHAHHHAA
(inhales)
BBAAHAHHHHH

Rest pertains to your strict, almost never changing tierlist that only is changed when DE mixes something up.
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>>175681649
>shows proof
>LAWL YA WHATEVER I STILL KNOW MORE THEN YOU

Jesus christ you are such an insufferable fucking cunt. I use to give you the benefit of the doubt on everyone giving you shit. Thanks for proving everyone else right by not being able to accept that you are wrong.
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>>175681708
I go with vanilla immortal skin on Vauban Prime
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>>175681972
>lv140 tests are totally legit guys
>he says as he kills lv140 butchers
lmao you're so fucking dumb

>>175681717
>>175681215
holy fuck are you guys literally taking that seriously? you really are autistic
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>>175681649
>who the fuck are these literal whos?

"my ignorance invalidates this information."

>If you search long enough you're going to find people testing shit against ANYTHING
>Brozime - someone who's not a literal who - tests against lv50
>H3dshot, the most intelligent of the bunch, tests against a variety of sortie-level enemies

but why? don't they know lvl100 is the gold standard?!
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>>175682049
>youre taking my posts seriously? youre autistic
tq, ladies and gentlemen
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>>175682053
lv100 is the absolute upper boundary of endgame testing. It's the gold standard if you want to dickwave about how much damage something can do. I actually agree with youtubers who run missions tests that in-missino playtesting is more useful than lv100 HG kills in a controlled environment. lv100 HGs are the absolute tankiest enemies you face, but they only represent 1 faction, and even in that 1 faction only count as a small percentage of enemies. In reality, lv100 HGs are maybe 1-5% of the enemies you'll face.

My point is, anything that kills lv100 HGs - and stealth finishers w/o radiant finish do that just fine - is a gold standard measurement for DPS. Testing against enemies higher than that is complete pointless, much like everything else topgun says.
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>>175682154
he was only pretending to be retarded
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>>175639785
i could never take a frame seriously that had seat belts dangling from its head.
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It's a little interesting to see how far his english degrades over time. It's gotten to almost spambot tier lately.
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>>175681649
They are all different examples that goes towards my point. They dont have to be fucking famous, they just have to follow some sort of...whats the word? COMMUNITY STANDARD!

Corrupted heavy gunners, ancients, and yes even butchers can meet that criteria if they are LEVEL 140!
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If I can kill a level 140 X in X amount of seconds, I wonder what I could do against lower level sortie/kuva flood enemies.

Makes you (not) think. Reddit, Youtube, and Tier List were a mistake.
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Atlas 4th ability, Rumblers, pretty fun ability imo, can it be viable later on if properly modded?
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>>175654417
tfw those days will never comeback
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>>175682332
Your not going to change anything with your train of thought, tierqueen. Its going to stay as corrupted level 140 enemies.

Test at level 100 yourself all you want. They community will continue on without you.
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>>175682154
>>175682351
Did you really not realize the entire "think about it for a moment" paragraph was a joke, meant to highlight your stupidity? Did the part where I told you to read up on Bible studies pass over your head? Did you think I was seriously telling you to submit your post to a fucking peer-reviewed article?

Holy shit you are legitimately, 100% autistic

>>175682527
so if I have a build that kills lv140 butchers then that build is good?

I see you have no understanding of how enemy scaling works.
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>>175682601
I DON'T LIKE THIS FEEL
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This probably won't get a response among the rampant shitposting but for the euphora fedora prime there are two possible builds, right?
Either a full crit build for the primary fire or a 100% status meme for the secondary fire?
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>>175682830
Now you get to listen to casual retards like TQ all thread long.
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>>175682538
Doesn't take much forma for rumbler build. I main it so it's my A slot.
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>>175682830
>>175682601
it won't come back because you tolerate shitters on your board who think radiant finish and rift surge are good augments. SPEAK OUT
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>>175682702
tq, what you post is what is credited to your image. Since this is on par with the rest of your posts, saying that you were only joking doesnt matter. It matched the rest of your posts, so it is legitimate.

Goodday, I have better things to do now that you are back to shitposting. Good luck on repairing your credibility here on good ol wfg
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>>175682914
Right, but the solid shot is pretty much all you'll ever want to use.
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>>175682993
we love you
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>>175682993
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>>175683069
What? No. Status buckshot is where it's at. It turns into a literal Tigris Prime with 5 shots. Build for viral/rad and slash and watch them melt. Literal mini Tigris Prime.
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>>175683069
Am I crazy or is there projectile drop on the primary fire? On longer distances the bullet always landed way below my crosshair.
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>>175682702
I hardly think you were joking. Shit, even lucy isn't this bad across all threads he visits. You want to call out people for repling to your shit but you have been here responding to it for over a year?

Most people would just give up. But not you.
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>>175682702
>>175683170
>pic related

>>175683227
>literal mini Tigris Prime
As opposed to a metaphorical one?
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>>175683227
I know it's good, but I hate the range.

>>175683256
You're not crazy.
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>>175683294
Scale model pocket Tigris as a secondary when?
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>>175680606
>people actually took this entire post literally

>Think about it for a moment. Let your brain process the words. Reflect upon the hidden meaning. Compare it to established and dead hermetic philosophies. Conduct rigorous scientific testing. Search the literature for contemporary articles about the topic. Discuss the matter with a trusted confidant. Open the floor to a wider audience. Accept input from a wide variety of ages, genders, ethnicities, and socioeconomic classes. Develop your thoughts into a thesis. Have it peer-reviewed by acknowledged experts in the field. Submit it to a well-established journal. Let your work define the zeitgeist for generations to come.

Only then will you realize how monumentally autistic this general is.
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>scream incoherently for a year and a half
>"no, everyone else in this general is autistic"
>>
>quotes himself because no one is replying to him
>accuses the people who are not listening to him of autism
what did he mean buy this?
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>ywn fug sense into TQ while she (he) is dressed as Yayaka
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>get riven pistol mod
>shit of a hassle to unveil
>its for the new tron sidearm that apparently the worst one in the game

Please tell me, /wfg, that it's gonna get buffed in the next patch to rival the Marelok.
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>>175684197
i don't want to lie to you, anon
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>>175684197
>get 150p riven
>woe is me

niggles, it's still worth a dime since it's new
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What a shitty general.
>>
>right about titania
>right about redcrits
>right about octavia
>right about nidus

soon to be >right about radiant finish
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>>175684330
>i've only been to this general
>>
I really really like the Hind.
How do I make it viable past Venus?
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>>175684454
???
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>>175684327
Gonna try my luck anon. Hope you didn't lie to me, otherwise you'll be a bad person and I'll imagine you looking like this.
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>>175684460
git a riven
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>>175684727
H O W
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>>175684756
type WTB Hind Riven 10p in the trade window
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>>175684862
I don't have 10 plat tho'.
And will I have to reroll it?
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>>175684727
Do Second Dream and War Within
Grind sorties or buy a riven
get a god tier roll
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>>175684460
Get Burston Prime instead.
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What the fuck is with this Junction boss?
She kept one-hitting me the second I started it.
The Pluto>Sedna Junction is fucking retarded, what the fuck?
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>>175685614
u-use valkyr...
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>>175685614
Radiant finish trivializes all junction frames
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>>175685614
>use Loki
>invis and stand next to them
>one shot them with HEK
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>>175684362
>right about nidus
explain
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>>175686373
>talking to our inoperable tumour
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If I redo the Second Dream or the War Within, will I get any of the rewards?
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>>175686537
>inb4 it's tq
bpnpccppc, fuck off
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>>175686543
Yeah
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>>175685614
>having trouble with junctions
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>Need plat
>Decide to run vaults
>Volt's fast, and I have plenty of Hobbled Keys for some reason
>This isn't so bad I guess. Just bullet jump a lot
>Open vault. Second curse doubles down on the Hobbled Key effect
Man wasn't meant to go this slow. This is terrible.
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>>175686543
Nope.
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Does what the trader stops at determine what he has available? (like Pluto having better stuff than mercury) Or is his planet hopping just a way to motivate people to rank up?
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>>175686373
no damage
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>Get a Riven
>Mutalist Quanta
>Get a Riven
>Embolyst
>Get a Riven
>Paracyst
Just give me a Grineer weapon for fucks sake I don't like infested weapons REEEEEEEEEE
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>>175684362
Except he's wrong about Nidus and redcrits
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So I maxed out my trades and ranked up just now, do I get an extra trade? Or am I still maxed out and have to wait till reset to get max trades again?
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>>175688508
you're dumb if you actually believe this
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>>175688597
Nidus is a good mix of damage and CC, like Oberon if he was good

Redcrits raise your damage floor and add to your killing consistency, in a horde game consistency matters more than slightly higher overall dps
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I drew a penis in the snow.
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>>175689081
kys!
<3
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>>175689081
are you sure you drew it right? I don't see the (=(_) end
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You know what upsets me right now more than TQ being an unstoppable force of autistic faggotry and Oberon still not worth taking for a walk?


The fact that Warframe will keel over and die long before Inaros's turn to get Primed comes along. I just want to be Swole Prime and it'll be at least ten years until we get there.
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>>175689081
Thanks Plot Convenience for this door.
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When did they add in this bullshit auto-start mechanic?
I started a Survival mission and went to get some food before I triggered the alarm, and when I got back it had started and I was at 50%
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>>175689270
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>>175689290
Since AshP is already Egypt-y, what would Guardian Prime look like?
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>>175689382
that's lewd
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>>175689382
I walk like I've shat myself, let me run, fuck sake.
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>>175689496
Full on golden Pharaoh, complete with crazy ass goatee and headdress. No bandages, only bling.
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>>175688897
congratulations, you agree with everything I said
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>>175689607
>playing Warframe.
This is your punishment.
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>>175689607
aw man it'd be a shame if i fell in
i better not fall in
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>>175689903
oh noooo
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>>175684362
Since TQ only fights lvl 100 enemies max, does that mean he is unable to complete sorties/dies a lot with "low-tier" frames?

Who knows? That valkshitter you're reviving, or that Oberon that explodes going off to pick up a cyan star...that might be our friend BPNPC!
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>>175690104
how come i could run once my leg is fucked but not before?
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>>175690104
Why do male taters have gyno? It's annoying as shit.
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>>175690160
BIG

LONG

ENDLESS

RUNS
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>>175690314
>Darkshadowrogue
Chuuni as fuck.
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>>175690314
Bored of this shit now, skip.

>>175690414
I gave myself that name back when I was like, twelve playing Runescape, and now I just can't shake it after all these years.
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>>175690314
STIMULANTS also let me touch your tater's butt.
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>>175690519
FUCK OFF

>>175690526
nothing to touch desu
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>>175690519
one day you will see the Light.
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Hair is so fly it doesn't even lighting

>>175690884
One day.
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Why do I farm?
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Is Shaku worth getting or is Ninkondi better? I heard it works really well with Shattering Impact, but the stats seem a bit worse.
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Lads how __fun__ is Octavia?
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>>175691531
Ninkondi is the better weapon of the two. The Shaku is straight MR fodder.
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>>175691767
A lot of people are in denial about her being mediocre, but not even the biggest octaviacucks will call her fun.
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>>175692009
I actually just wanted to drop sick beats and walk over shit but I guess not
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>>175692139
That's TQ anon, his opinions belong in the trash.
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>>175691093
No matter how much you farm, it will never fill up that hole inside you.
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>>175682954

whats the point, once a shitter always a shitter. people get ingrained in their ways and as soon as you try t suggest that there might be something better they get defensive as fuck and refuse to even try see what it is you are talking about much less try it.

its one big fucking shit show. if people have questions and want to know hwo to get better or try to improve something, yeah i'll be there like most others. But for every time you are not there, someone else will be spreading an propagating more shit information.

right now the shit information out weighs the good stuff 10 to 1.
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>>175692529
I think your tier list sucks because there are no tiers in it, just a Top 3 and Oberon tier.

You would be better served my making a Top 5 AoE damage, top 5 CC, top 5 stealth, top 5 utility etc. list separating by role. 5 can be a bigger number if you care about more than being top tier (I don't play low tier shit)
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>>175693559
>your
wrong guy m8

it's good to have rankings of frames that aren't top tier, if for no other reason than completeness. Your "top 5 of X category" is actually already in the guide. There's a "best of X role" section at the bottom for CC, tank, and DPS
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>>175693880
No one reads the guide, just make an image for it
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>>175693959
>No one reads the guide

I'll add it to the current pic
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>>175687825
The second one.
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>>175694542
it's true though.
either they don't care to read it so you have to tell them,
or they did read it and think you're wrong, so you have to talk to them and figure out who makes more sense.

concise images are more useful.

add more tiers instead of having a useless middle tier.
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What are some fun frames that aren't Volt?
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>>175694743
the low number of tiers is so people aren't too butthurt about their favorite frames being shit. The low tier was specifically chosen so nobody but the biggest retards would complain their frames are in there. The middle section is admittedly bloated, but since frames are soft ranked within each tier it still provides a good enough sense of who's better than who. Even if I did split the middle tier, it'll be extremely difficult to figure out where to split it. Tier gaps indicate a relatively large power gap which I'm not sure exists in the middle tier.
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>>175694928
Volt Prime.
Limbo.
Nezha.
>>
>credit cache
>credit cache
>credit cache
>credit cache
>credit cache

jesus fuck limbo therom sucks

anyone wanna join me?
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>>175695019
what's the point of a tier list if everyone is the same tier? it doesn't make sense, that's not how tiers work.

fags bring butthurt isn't a good reason to make your list more shit.

you put Nidus right under Frost for fucks sake, come on
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>>175695109
just use Limbo
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>>175695449
good advice thanks bud :^)
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>>175695185
tiers delineate relatively large power gaps. I can say with confidence loki/frost/nova are a tier above the mid-tier frames, and that the shitty frames are a tier below them. But where would you draw the new line in the mid-tier frames? Between rhino and nyx? Nyx and mirage? Mirage and banshee?

plus, even if everything is in the "same tier" they're still RANKED. Limbo, Nezha, and Mag are very distant from vauban/mesa

>you put Nidus right under Frost
?
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>>175695109
On PC? Sure, I need cryotic. Just give me a few minutes to finish this alert. IGN moon.boots
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>>175695613
I'd draw the line so anyone is either in Trinity tier or Banshee/Octavia tier.

There's a pretty big difference between Trinity and Octavia.
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is this a warbros ripoff?
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>>175695903
TQ would think so
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>>175695903
Nah that's a 4chan reference
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rate my build /wfg/
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>>175695897
I think Trin is really shitty though and only put her highly because so many people told me to. Bless build is gutted to shit and EV is redundant with Zenurik
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>>175696278
Cuck for using it after nerf/10
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Can Akzani hang with Aksom/Akstil/etc with some investment? They look way cooler than the others.
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>>175696278
>Not Gas
gys yourself fag
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Is there a way to check what relic you have on mid-mission?

I've had like the last 3/5 fissures where it asked me to collect reactant but at the end of the mission I had no relic selected even though I was 10/10 and when I check my inventory the relic is still there, what fucking gives? Every time there's some delay in matchmaking the game decides I didn't pick a relic even though I fucking did.
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Is Ferrox a popular weapon? because I got a +damage +fire rate Riven for it.
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>>175696771
>corrosive + gas
for what purpose?
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>>175696349
Naramon with infinite energy is better than Zenurik sans Trin, but we didn't start this because of Trin so let's take a step back

We both want a better tier list so people can actually use it and not laugh at how bad it is

How do we make it better?

Do we separate by role instead of having all 30 roles in the middle tier?

Do we add more hard tiers to clearly indicate why Octavia is not as good as Mesa?

Clearly you have to do something, because what we have now isn't getting the message across. The list and the guide aren't working, they're not precise enough, you need to make tough decisions and put the gavel down instead of letting DPS Limbos think they're almost as good as Nova.

Am I making at least a little sense here?
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>>175696556
Only when Akzani P comes along.
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>>175696891
>We both want a better tier list so people can actually use it and not laugh at how bad it is
shitters gonna shit, it doesn't bother me that some retard who thinks LOS doesn't matter or who thinks Speed Holster/Staggering Shield are good or who thinks radiant finish is a good augment dislike the list. I also suggest you ignore the shitters who know as much about warframe as trump does about the presidency

This sn't the first time someone's told me to make more tiers so I'll add another tier. Line will be drawn between Nyx and Mirage. I think Mirage is pretty awful now
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>>175697598
don't talk shit about mirage she's fuckin chill yo
no amount of "lol free items xDD" is going to change that.
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>>175697598
Cool
I think you should care a little about shitters though, with a good list you can save them and teach them to not be shit

I think that's the goal of a good tier list, for it to be good enough that even shitters can look at it and say "oh, so that's why it's bad"
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>>175697749
she's legitimately awful now post simulor and tonkor nerf. There are literally no good AOE weapons left for her to use safely, everything kills her especially with clone AOE. And I have 10 forma on my mirage
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What elements do I put on my meme status Tigris Prime?
>rad procs are useless because enemies are already in shreds after one shot
>there's no reason to toxin through shields because Big Tee goes in dry through any shield as it is
>heat is useless because enemies will have no time to suffer from the dot when they are already dead
>there's no reason to cut enemy's life in half with viral because their whole life is already getting cut down by a load of buckshot
The only one that makes sense to me is corrosive
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>>175698402
Corrosive Cold or Corrosive Heat
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>Limbo rework done
>Chroma deluxe skin done
>Oberon rework done
>may
>june
>july
>august
>septermber
>October
>November
>Update 21 - The Kuva Storm
>devs go on vacation till January

Holy content drought... no reason to fucking play this steaming pile of "pre-nerfed" shit.
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>>175698402
I've tried corrosive+blast / corrosive+heat & it didnt seem to work nearly as well as rad+viral.
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>>175698602
>Unairu
why
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>>175698602
Well I think another part of it is that DE isn't telling us about what else they're working on in Warframe, after dealing with us pestering them about War Within all the time. So now they're hush hush. For example, we know they're working on an operator only game mode (probably for the third cinematic mission) that they're not telling us about.
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>>175698902
They better make the operator more fast before they release operator only modes
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>>175698902
I feel like this is what they want us to think, & they're secretly just fucking around at the office doing jack shit. I mean, they have a team of around 200 people or so right? So them only coming out with a weapon/syndana every week (or nothing at all) seems incredibly lazy.
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>>175698902
would rather have Operator "Companion" mode where you can neural link companions and use them to play.

>flying around with Carrier prime shooting shit
>take control over doggo and be sneaky beaky bitey

>>175698824
wanted to test Mighty Blows
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>>175699329
Jesus Christ zip up that mask
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>>175698251
Pox

Also literally explode your own Simulors that automerge into shots.
>>
>Do capture fissure
>Mission starts with target right next to spawn point
>Target starts running away
>Everyone going for reactant
>Go after target
>Get target
>Faggots got their reactant and jump in extraction
>Timer hits 1 second remaining
>I have 9/10 reactant
>Lights start flickering that shadow is coming
>Results pop up
>All three faggots got one of the parts I'm missing for Saryin prime, Trinity Prime, and Nekros Prime.
>Literally missed out on a chance of getting my first prime and a chance at getting war BP because of three incompetent assholes.

Pro life movement was a mistake.
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>>175700716
next time go for reactant
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>>175700294
pox comes nowhere close to the instant carnage of prenerf simulor and tonkor

Simulor is just so fucking weak even with manual detonation. The detonation damage is nerfed to shit compared to per-nerf merge damage, and detonating it is a massive fucking pain
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>>175700875
Would it matter? Don't you not get the roll if the mission fails?
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>>175700970
either you fail or you get enough and aren't turned into the cuck
they were idiots for extracting before 10/10 though
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why is operator energy not visible anywhere
what fuckwad decided that was a good idea
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>>175700716
Capture is a bad rift, the best ones are Survival, Excavation and sometimes Extermination. Don't waste time on rifts that don't give 10/10 reactant quickly and naturally.
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>>175701669
>not running to target with ember killing everything in your wake and grabbing reactant along the way
>waiting 5 MINUTES for survival
lol
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>>175701852
survival is faster than the load in/out times + stalling for reactant between kills and extraction

time your capture runs including menu times if you don't believe me
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>>175701653
It was too bright with bloom, so bye bye.
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>>175702106
stalling for kills? enemies spawn constantly and you get 10 reactant every time just by running and killing all mobs at running speed.
Interception takes 3 minutes so its faster than survival anyway.
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>>175702106
I'm going to have to disagree there, reactant drop rates are comparatively reduced in endless mission types whereas I regularly get the ten I need within the first minute of an exterminate. Throw in two, maybe three minutes if the extract path is heavily convoluted. As for menu times, I doubt I ever spend more than thirty seconds out of mission.

I'd say for my experience it evens out to a survival run under the absolute worst exterminate conditions I can recall.
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>>175700970
Couldn't you just down the target and not absorb?
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What's a good Atomos build?
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>>175703927
Wouldn't know, there was never a need to try.
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>>175626761
source? sounds like total bullshit
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>>175626761
>ack and brunt prime
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>>175698402
Rad/Viral you donut.

All the Slash you're constantly proccing with the Tigris Prime makes corrosive redundant.
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>>175690346
any potato'ed frame can be brought to sorties. so what purpose does your tierlist serve?
It's not for new players. It's not for old players.

it's a list for "real" veterans who do sorties as their most challenging content?
what a shit niche list
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>>175705802
not every frame does equally well in sortie-tier content, you're fucking dumb if you think this.

If someone asks you "what's a good frame to aim for?" are you seriously going to tell him to get Oberon and Hydroid

how do you mouthbreathers breathe without a brain?
>>
>DE has budget motion capture
>DE will not go back and re do animations
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>>175706204
you die if you take Oberon or Hydroid to sorties?
lol what a shitter
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>>175706204
>how do you mouthbreathers breathe without a brain?
>how do you mouthbreathers breathe

Uhh...

Through the mouth?
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>>175691531
Ninkondi Condition Overload all the way
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>>175696879
Yeah it's the new better opticor >>175704004
Seeker, straight damage and multishot, range mod. Punchthrough interactions still work.
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>>175706932
no you fucking tard, I've solo'd sorties with Oberon before just for the hell of it. The strawman you're building is the size of a fucking skyscraper. If you legitimately think that Oberon/Hydroid is on the same tier is frost or loki or nova or mesa, you are dumb as fuck

>>175707290
still need a brainstem. It's a breakthrough in medical science that this mongoloid can breath without a brain, much less type coherent sentences, though I'm not sure about the coherent part
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>>175687356
>arcane thrak rhino running on void cold trap.webm
You don't know what true slow is. I hope someone actually has that.
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>>175709414
>arcane thrak rhino with hobbled key running on void cold trap
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>>175709414
>>175710101
Atlas has base Sprint Speed of 0.9
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>>175710328
So does base Rhino, and I'll wait while you try to figure out what Arcane Thrak does.
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>>175710328
So Atlas is just barely slower than Arcane Thrak Rhino (not prime) and doesn't have the Rhino Charge? Truly a master of slow.
>>175710461
Non Prime Rhino has a base Sprint Speed of 0.95, Arcane Thrak's negative is multiplicative of that
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>>175710525
Atlas is 0.9
Rhino with Arcane Thrak is 0.9025
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>>175710649
And what does that number round off to?
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>>175711719
it rounds off to 0.9 in the arsenal, but its still slightly faster than that
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>>175711850
{ Insert penis joke here }
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>>175710649
Rhino with Arcane Thrak and Hobbled Dragon Key = 0.45125 Sprint Speed
Atlas with Hobbled Dragon Key = 0.45
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Are there any weapons that are not available in this store and Have to be built?
(other then weapon-variants like prime/prisma/vandal/wraith/syndicates)
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>>175711993
early, first batch clantech can't be acquired from the market.
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>>175711993
Yes. Stalker/Zanuka/G3 weapons and clantech weapons.
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>>175711993
Oh, and boss drop weapons like the Seer and Miter. Plus the Orvius and War.
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>>175712130
>stalker
you mean dread. dread and war are the only weapons stalker drops that are worth having.
>zanuka
you don't have to build the fucking detron ever
>G3
brakk is on the low end of worth it, but I'll give it to you.
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>Sortie reward was 3-day drop chance booster.
>Daily login reward today was 2-hour resource booster.

Oh shit.
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>>175712472
You have two hours.
Go.
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>>175712610
What do I farm? Mutagen, Polymers, Plastids, Orokang Cells, or more ALloy Plate so I can get a cat?
>>
Nyx is ugly and has a tiny head.
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>>175712684
Orokangs and Argons
They expire but just buy everything from the shop that uses argons
>>
First 5 people to reply to this post with their IGN and their favorite captura gets their choice of potato.
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>>175712852
Captura is also disqualified for not following basic photography rules such as rule of thirds.
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>>175712684
Never farm alloy - you will never be able to get rid of it. It is one of those resources you have hundreeds of thousands of even after building everything.

The only thing i'm ever short on is polymer bundles and also the orokins for forma so consider uranaus and saturn.
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>>175712684
>farming alloy plates
>not having gorillions of them just stocked up
shit nigger what are you doing
>>
tfw 3 days back in warframe and i get my second 75% discount, i might actually throw in some money for the jews this time, idk whats happening
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>>175713071
daily sales are happening and they are pushing gentiles to splurge
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>>175708428
But as you clearly put forth, even a retard can solo a sortie with Oberon, so what's the point of your tierlist?
to show the relative level of ease you can complete a sorite depending on the frame?

what a stupid useless list.
>>
>>175712903
by favorite I was implying it was at least visually appealing. But sure.
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>>175708428
>Being this autistic.

Holy shut dude.
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>>175712749
rude
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>>175699329
>that 10o
you don't have to take the potato meme literally
>>
>>175712262
>War.
War can technically be obtained from the shop.
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>>175713195
first of all, it has 2 parts: tier list and frame guide. The frame guide provides meta builds for each frame, which I'm sure even a retard like you can't disagree with.

Second of all, the tier list ranks based on how good frames are for sortie-level content. It primarily seeks to answer the question: "Which frame should I get that'll carry me all the way through sorties?" Now I repeated myself here, that's twice I've said it now, I'm sure even you can understand this simple and very obvious point
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So /wfg/, how can I make my Galatine not suck against lvl 40 enemies? I've forma'd and potatoed it and have added buzzkill, jagged edge, spoiled strike, hell even pressure point and it still plateaus after 20 Minutes of survival. What mods am I missing?
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>>175714517
Maiming strike.
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>>175680873
>b-but youtubers
Why are you using losers who suck de's dick as a basis for anything? Next you're gonna say forum fags give good advice.
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>>175714680
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>>175687356
Do Nezha and just spam slide. He's better than Volt for it with a slide build.
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>>175714680
Will that work with the helicopter combo attack?
>>
Okay so what kind of garbage infection do I have now?

This is shortly after finishing the second dream quest.

Sometimes my screen will flash lightly like saturation goes up for a few seconds, similar to how shadow stalker or invasions happen but things flicker brighter instead of darker.

And randomly I get teleported with the same animation as loki's swap ability, the teleport happened about twice in the last five mission, and I did make sure it wasn't a Loki. My team members were two trinity and a Saryn in the first one, and a Nekros and two frosts in the other.
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If I already have Twin Grakatas, is there any reason for me to keep Dex Furis?
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>>175716001
Nope.
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>>175716001
>is there any reason for me to keep Dex Furis?
I'm new to the game and don't know what that is, but just by the sound of it, I'd say you could keep it for high speed yiffs?
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>>175713024
>>175712763
>>175712980
If I wasn't some faceless goon on the Internet, my face would be an O-Face.
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>>175716341
Damn dude
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>>175714517
all of the good ones
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>>175712852
getting off for the night, I guess I'll try again tomorrow.
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>>175716664
maybe next time you won't be such a gaylord and require only ign
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Oldfag casual here (thanks job!), how much of a shitter I am?
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>>175697129

Surely it'll be Aksomati P first, then a bunch of other junk.
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>>175717439
pretty shit
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>>175717439
do you think radiant augment is a good augment? Your playtime doesn't matter nearly as much as the answer to this question.
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What are the best general use weapons to get now? Came back and my tonkor is ass compared to waht it used to be. Should I snag a tigris? And if so what mods for it
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>>175715393
Fuck no, it will render it obsolete entirely.
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>>175716537
Like which ones?
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>>175718149
Zarr, any Tigris/Hek
this hasn't changed
Atterax, Gal P, Kittag

for bow missions: that one Cernos bow, Dread is okay
for sniper missions: Lanka or... what's that other one, Vulkar Wraith?

Correct me if I missed something.
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>>175718502
what mods for the tigris prime, I saw people saying rad/viral but what other 4 mods?
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OKAY MOTHERFUCKERS AND RETARDED BRAINDEAD DONKEYS, IS TIME TO SEE WHO'S THE SHITTER AND WHO HAS DA BALLZ.

>http://www.strawpoll.me/12883616
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12883616
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12883616
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12883616
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12883616
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>>175718898
I will never stop using my Riven'd 8forma Supra
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>>175718898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWS7ZwC20AQ
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Navigator Zarr is my new favorite thing.

(Pity ODD wasn't cooperating and I only got 100 mutagen, 6 orokang cells, and 10 Neurodes)
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r8 and h8
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>>175719683
would be great if ignis had a higher base crit
it's okay
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>>175714517
you dumpster it and build a Galatine Prime instead

yes, this is a shit build

I was testing slash proc viability instead of the standard elemental+crit combo
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farming luas for mods is killing me, why is this a requirement for war within
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>>175721543
Remove meme strike and use Relentless Combination instead
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>>175722492
lol
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Shit, I'm actually tempted to buy this stupid armor set. Looks like it'd make for some cool lame mech cosplay.
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>>175722492
but it's so fucking slow without all 3 berserker stacks, and it takes too long to generate them without maiming
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are the Trials still bugged to shit? I haven't played them in about 4 months now
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>>175719683
ive seen worse
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>>175722765
Cmon anon, do it, for science!
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>>175723249
I don't even use RC on my slashproc atterax build, anon
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>>175722492
do you even know what that mod does?
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>>175722790
doesnt matter if they are. The rewards are terrible so they might as well not exist.
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Why the fuck is Warframe using 800MB of Ram now. What did they screw up this time?
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>>175723531
Its not like you dont want a free combo counter for your slash weapon
Especially if >>175721543 using Maiming Strike only for fast berserk buff
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>>175724172
doesn't have enough status to even pull it off

that mod was born with telso boltace and it died with it
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>>175723429
>>175724318
It's pretty good on atterax if you don't have memeing
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>>175723754
I had fun running them with friends
Made a ton of Platinum from the AEs, too
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>>175724101
>only using 800mb of ram
>"waah it's using too much!"
Stop playing games on the toaster, anon.

>>175724370
>if you don't have MS
why would you even bother using a ramp-up melee weapon if you don't have a crucial mod for it?

just go with something that has heavy frontload elemental damage in that case
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What stance should I run on Atterax? You do more than just slide around, right?
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>>175724318
He's also using Weeping Wounds
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>>175724172
That mod has potential, the problem is that there simply isn't any room for it in most builds. Melee
is notoriously bad in regards to build variety.
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>>175724665
burning wasp has a guaranteed headshot on the third button mash. mostly you spin though.
>>175724497
>why would you even bother using a ramp-up melee weapon
because relentless combo, weeping wounds and blood rush still ramp fine when you're doing slash procs anyway.
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>>175724665
not really, no, especially with the absurd bonus from memeing strike

I just use the default one that matched its polarity
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Do manics only spawn in survivals now? Haven't seen any in any other mission type no matter how long the alarms run for.
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>>175725371
>>175725371
>>175725371

new thread
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>>175712331
I didn't know whether he was asking about good weapons or about mastery completionism. Chill.
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