/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

Removed /wgg/ from the tags since their general is back from the grave.

>>175488052
Thought about adding that, figured out anyone could figure it out without needing a reminder.

Reminder that there's nothing wrong with spiders.

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Time for round two you fucking piece of shit.

If that fails, i have a batch of new Heavy Dreadnoughts equipped with Enigmatic Deflectors rolling of the shipyards in a year.
We will see who will end up in a horizontal position motherfucker O!

>>175487878
Clever boy. I almost didn't catch it.

>>175488294
I just found that thing too. Do I have to send a fleet in to attack it for it to turn hostile? It didn't seem to mind my science ship.

>>175488131
>>175488345
Oh for fuck's sake.

I hoped nobody would notice until next thread. Since when do you guys actually look at the picture?

So I have mods installed but they do nothing. I have bigger galaxies and multiple crisis installed and enabled in the client. I don't get options to generate bigger galaxies and when I try to spawn a second crisis with the console I get the same problems with vanilla Stellaris. Any ideas?

>>175488294
Delete this

>>175488552
I thought sticking /civ4xg/ on it was a good idea so I had a closer look and while looking at the planet I noticed the background was off, then I noticed it has a low opacity spider.

>>175488576
Also I may or may not be using a pirated version of Stellaris.

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I finally won a battle in Aurora 4x vs a non-spoiler. Here I am putting the Coup-de-Grace in the final FAC that attacked (Well followed) me.

>>175488416
You don't give a fuck about a 10% minmax on a single planer's resources when without sectors you wouldn't even have that planet at all.
That's the strength of sectors.

>>175487878
What's the point of that image without the before part?

>>175488806
That sure looks interesting.

>>175488806
Upload save, im always interested in other people campaings.
>tfw it's been ages since i had a proper game of Aurora

>>175488514
I have no idea, at first it seem to not mind but then i started fidling with it and bam - science ship goes in flames :(

Any mods that let you terraform after colonization?

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who else hates seeing this system name pop up every single game

>>175488649
Dammit. I tried too hard to make a good OP. Next time, I'll post an OP without spiders, so that you look everywhere but can't find it. And then, in the OP after the next OP, I'll hide a spider again, you'll be like "can't find the spider, someone else must've made that one!" but it'll be here, looking at you. Judging you.

>>175488952
Showing what horrible things people can do. But yeah, should've put the before picture too, but without the context, it would still have been cryptic.
At least the OP is Stellaris-related. I originally wanted to post Seven Kingdoms 2 or Age of Empires.

>>175489175
>but it'll be here, looking at you. Judging you.
I'll be so sad and upset that I have a new updated thread to post in.

I'm starting to like the spider autist

>>175488961
Aurora 4x is fun

>>175489039
I might upload the save, as you well aware, the saves are huge. And I encountered a NPR in the 2nd system I jumped in.

Here is the class of my warship - designed for my early navy and to serve as the Anti-fighter/FAC escort in a 5k speed fleet.

Warrior class Frigate 4 200 tons 82 Crew 597 BP TCS 84 TH 432 EM 0
5142 km/s Armour 3-23 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/28/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2 PPV 5.28
Maint Life 2.8 Years MSP 178 AFR 70% IFR 1% 1YR 33 5YR 493 Max Repair 72 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Magazine 84

Bush Industries 144 EP Ion Drive (3) Power 144 Fuel Use 79.2% Signature 144 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 300 000 Litres Range 16.2 billion km (36 days at full power)

Heydt-Sugar CIWS-120 (1x6) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Heydt-Sugar Size 4 Missile Launcher (33% Reduction) (4) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 1200
Heydt-Sugar Missile Fire Control FC37-R20 (1) Range 37.8m km Resolution 20
Hammerhead Anti-ship Missile (Size 4) (21) Speed: 16 100 km/s End: 32m Range: 31m km WH: 9 Size: 4 TH: 69/41/20

Heydt-Sugar Active Search Sensor MR31-R20 (1) GPS 1280 Range 31.5m km Resolution 20
Guidi Space & Security EM Detection Sensor EM2.5-27.5 (1) Sensitivity 27.5 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 27.5m km

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

>>175489334
He doesn't really do anything wrong unless you really hate unrelated OP images. I prefer him to regular shitposters.

>>175488576
Bump pls halp.

>rivaling both awakened empires while leading the non-aligned lack of league because fuck federations
>they're still too fucking pussy to strike first
The first one to awake even lost a fucking war against a huge alliance of literally every relevant not-me power

>>175489293
Oh, that reminds me.
Should I add the ship design guide to the Stellaris pastebin? The "WIP Ship Design Guide for 1.5.1 https://pastebin.com/2QWUPKSh" one, or should it stay its own pasta?

>>175489428
That sounds like a Honor Harrington fangame. Do you also have missile drones to shoot even more missiles per salva?

I'll bump my question from previous thread too.

What are some good class names for Human ships? General themes would do.

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Jesus fucking christ ...
Ok fuck that, thios shit is personal now, i will come backl with fucking 2M worth of Heavy Dreadnoughts and we will see who will be fucking laughing then you starfish motherfucker !!

>>175489428
Aurora is not that big, 300mb tops and even less when zipped.

>>175489767
http://x3wiki.com/index.php/ATF#Science_and_Technology

>>175489767
Just open a History book and pick some king and queen names.
Well, not the name, but the nickname. Stuff like The Conqueror, The Red are pretty impressive.

>>175489767

just name them after porn categories on your favorite porn site

>>175489767
Check out US Navy, Royal Navy etc.

Generally :
Escorts - animals, weapons, mythical creatures, stuff like Tempest, Lightning etc.

capitals - famous people, battles
Biggest shit - hardcore shit like Leviathan, Titan, Imprevious.

What's the best ship to put flak on for covering my fleet? Destroyers or Cruisers?

>>175487878
Stop making the thread early you braindead weeb

INDUSTRIALIST + SLAVER GUILDS + MINING GUILDS STRONK

>>175490006
Cruisers

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How high above the Core System cap do you go before the penalties really start hurting you?

I mean early to mid-game.

>>175490172
I often spend most of the early game 2-3 above the cap. It's that uncomfortable spot where you need to expand but don't have the resources to lay the blueprint down for the sector yet.

I never take the ascension for core worlds though, it's always a huge waste later on.

>>175490454
Whats your thoughts on the core world civic?

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Where did I fuck up?

>>175490791
Just

>>175490791
You allowed an Early Space Age primitive civ to exist in your borders? Immediately invade them if it doesn't conflict with your ethos. If you haven't contacted any other civs, they won't get butthurt about it, and the stellar culture shock time is way lower than if you had invaded any other stage. You might even luck out and get species than can colonize planet types that aren't your main species'.

Shield Capacitors or Afterburners for corvettes?

>>175490791
birth apparently

>>175490791
What mod are you using to spawn inside an FE?

>>175490589
I'd say only bother if you have adaptive traits or have habitable worlds set excessively high.

>>175491064
Good job I always set my habitable worlds to be excessively high!

>>175489767
Corvette: Thunderbolt
Cruiser: Lightning
Battleship: Very Very Frightening

>>175490989
shield capacitors

>>175490954
Afterburners aren't worth it. Shield Capicators generally won't be on a corvette because they'll drive the price up and the ship probably won't last long enough once it starts taking hits for the regen to matter.

>>175491126
It's more important then of course. I always set it at .75.

>>175491041
It can happen naturally.

>>175491553
Homeworlds a ringworld segment though.

>>175490954
Afterburners. You should get rid of the shields period on them after cruisers become commonplace.
I'd even argue you should stop using them at all once you have a strong enough economy to support a destroyer fodder force. Torpedo corvettes are a meme.

What do you prefer /civ4xg/, increased habitable worlds or decreased and why

>>175490791
Get memed on

>>175491730
why no shields? not worth it costwise?

>>175492138
Late game shields start to add a fair bit to construction costs, depending on your viewpoint they may not be worth the cost

>>175489812
Are you stupid or what
these meme ship classes suck
just spam cruisers and corvettes with a few dreadnots shooting at the back

>>175492138
Drives up the cost and they're going to die almost immediately from anything with decent weapons regardless.
Early-game corv shields are practically game-breaking though.

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>>175491137
>tfw radical ayylmao

>>175490006

Destroyers with 2 flak 2 empty weapons all shields with afterburners and best computers (sentient pref). Big hit chance, big tracking, big speed, big hp, allows cruisers to actually do their job, which is damage.

>>175492138
Corvettes will get one shot by anything anyway.
Might as well get them in range as fast as possible.

>>175492195
huh, I always try to go economic juggernaut with maximum minerals+energy, so I always trick out my ships.

But I have to wait between wars to rebuild, so maybe I should go cheap options

>>175492350
>/fitlit/

>>175492275
>cruisers and corvettes
>against faggot that one shots dreadnoughts

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How do you make your bio in two paragraphs? Also, how long can your bio be?

>>175492587
It can only oneshot if it hits.

>>175490953
He is the Early Space Age primitive civ

He spawned inside a fallen empire

>>175491673
It's fallen empires expanded for extra homeworld types, pretty sure, but the spawn is random.

>>175492587
Actually if it's one shotting those you might as well mass corvettes against it. Even if it has insane tracking it can only fire so quickly.

I demand that Corvettes be replaced with Mustangs.

>>175493061
Are you kidding me ?
Do you have any idea how many corvettes you would need against faggot like that ?
Maybe if Paracucks unfuck their retarded spaceport system that would be possible but not when spaceport can produce single ship at once.

>>175493395

Replace corvettes with destroyers. Equip them with torpedoes. Make planets spawn corvettes and torpedo ships for self-defence.

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>>175489757
>That sounds like a Honor Harrington fangame. Do you also have missile drones to shoot even more missiles per salva?
Not drones, but you can have fighters....

Such as my fighters who got blasted, so now I am using my Light cruiser with it better sensors and longbow missiles to weaken the enemy. Have two more light cruisers on the way to join up as I my designs do not have large magazines.

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>>175493395
>ugly American muscle cars

>>175492610

Also, rate my science directorate.

>>175493493
I'm just saying give it a shot if the next fleet you throw at it gets fucked up.

>>175492610
Pretty good, Egalitarian conflicts with police state and the description doesn't really fit egalitarian.

You also misspelled arctic

>>175493556
>Not drones,
Well multistage missiles are piss easy to make in Aurora, you just have to have decent tech level.

>>175489757
>That sounds like a Honor Harrington fangame

Well its a game based on tabletop Starfire that had books written by David Weber, creator of Honor Harrington so you are not so much off in your assumptions.

>>175493781
I will rather wait for Super Star Destroyers to be available - i cringe when i imagine how much i would have to actually build to take him through corvette spam.

>>175494119
build like 200 corvettes and a lot of your meme ships

let the corvettes evade like mofos while your dreadnots shoot them down

>>175494119
Get 20+ starports pumping them out.. no that sounds really fucking annoying to do actually now that I think about it fuck corvettes

>>175494480
I kinda doubt evasion is going to work against it. It's a super boss, if it had such an easy counter it would be silly.

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What's in the box?
It's pain, isn't it?

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>>175494119
HA!
I knew it!

Does endless space and endless space 2 have the amount of built in narrative as EL?

>>175495437
1, sort of. Doesn't have the faction quests, but the design and narrative is there to some degree.

2, yes. It's all there, and more. It's really good on that front.

>>175493956

Well, the idea is that the UED have been gone to great lengths to put order, eradicate and suppress separatism and cultural/ethnic divisions, and bring humanity as one efficient whole.

>>175493561
t. oyota

>>175495536
Neato, I look forward to ES2 being fleshed out fully.

>>175494480
Yeah, im pretty sure that he will be super intimidated by the 200 corvettes after he finishes killing my heavy dreadnoughts.

>>175494856
I just researched Particle Lances and my main fleet is in the middle of an refit.
When they are done - its time for another round.
No cruisers, no destroyers - heavy dreadnoughts only.

>>175495124
>No Eva mod that adds Seeds of Life to the game.

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>>175487878
Got vanilla Stellaris as a gift from a friend. It's alright but it feels lacking a bit. What would you guys say are some of the 'must-have' mods and junk?

>>175496093
Check the FAQ.

>>175495754
sounds authoritarian

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>>175492610
I prefer mine tbqh

>>175496093
Leviathans Extended

>>175496197

The methods, certainly are, hence police state.

>>175496093
Auto Build and Improve Buildings

>>175495754
Thats not really egalitarian though, scrap egalitarian

>>175492352
So just use them as a cheap screen for the first rmissile/strike craft wave along with corvettes?

>>175495437
>Does endless space and endless space 2 have the amount of built in narrative as EL?
ES1 only has a handful of very small random events that don't tie in to your faction in any way. Only actual bits of lore and story you get is from faction descriptions and wiki. If you dive into ES1 after EL you're going to be really disappointed in that regard.

ES2 on the other hand takes heavy notes from EL in relation to storyline, quests and lore, plus release version supposedly adds a global storyline as well.

>>175496902
How well is ES2 shaping up at the moment, I know 4x's have a habit of needing several years before being in a state worth full RRP

>>175496479

How would you justify police state with egalitarian directorate, then?

These ships I am fighting must have layer upon layer of armor. they been hit by dozens of 9 damage nukes and they are still not even outgassing.

>>175497032
I wouldn't, thats what I'm saying. You could maybe justify it as a state with great equality, freedom and liberties but any crime is instantly stamped down. Yours doesn't really seem to fit that.

>>175496093
I installed like 80, so I dunno, all of them?

>>175497032

Nuclear Ecoterrorism.

>>175495124
It'll be fine anon, nothing untoward happens. You just attack those stations around the outside and you get an amazing amount of energy, is all.

Does anyone play with galaxies largest than 1000 stars?

>>175497319
I'm surprised your game starts.

>>175497032

Liberal powers becoming increasingly authoritarian to save liberalism.

>>175497339
>you get an amazing amount of energy
Transmitted via a high-efficiency beamed power device?

>>175497737
Directly to your ships even! It cuts out all the middle-men.

Is it ever acceptable to become an AE's bitch in a War in Heaven?

>>175497737
Defeating it spawns a blackhole which produces a lot of energy that you can mine, is what I mean.

Much, much more than a Dyson sphere.

>>175497971
If you do most of the work you'll get loads of territory afterwards.

>>175497527
I did pretty much everything short of cross-checking files to make sure it was all working. Still have 8 mods I need to test, but I need to play an actual, long game to check them.

>>175498062
A greater than 400 mining station? Sounds fun.

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>>175497032
>How would you justify police state with egalitarian ethos.

The UK.

>>175498269
I still can't believe that was a real poster.

>>175497971
Only if you're arr peeing or if the alternative is sure death.

>eat some primitive ayyliums
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>175498504
>massacre helpless sapient life for food
>somehow I'M the bad guy

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The battle damage ships get isn't too bad looking considering it's something people don't really look at.

Can you randomize a planet's name after you established a colony there? I don't see the randomizing button when I click the name on the planet summary tab

>>175497032
Ignore them, being dedicated to maintaining social mobility (egalitarian) doesn't preclude having a government with extensive and invasive powers of surveillence or having a Big Government state the meddles and monitors it's populace's lives extensively.

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Do non-hiveminds ever turn pops into livestocks? What kinds of purges do they use? Where does it say it?

>neighbor snipes planet from near my borders
>no way to tell him to cut it out
>no way to trade him for the planet
>have to wait 10 years and fight half the universe in defensive pacts if I want to go to war with him over it
Great diplomacy
Great game

>>175498269
glorious Britain demands you love the aliens and welcome them, or else!

>>175498881
Didn't even know that was a thing.

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This thing already gobbled up two of my scientists. Should I send in more?

>>175498904
no but what you can do is make a colony ship, order it to settle a planet, then place the building. Then the random name generator will pop up and you can copy and paste it, and finally cancel the colony ship's order.

>>175499131
Yes but its not really worth it.

>>175499131
I just did, and I'm not a hivemind. You set species rights as undesirables, and select purge option as processsing.

>The AI will never use genetic engineering on pops from your captured planets, turning them into food/waifus/abominations and thus giving you a personal reason to fight back and eradicate them.

>>175499276
The worm loves you, anon.

>>175499341
Cool tip, thx.

>>175499343
>>175499362

Does the AI ever do this? The times I have chequed, it just said that the pop was being eliminated, not displaced, eaten, or castrated.

>>175499276
yes the worm just wants to share its love

>>175499179
This is why you spam frontier outposts.

>>175499276
yup

>>175499179
Don't worry they'll fix it in the Diplomacy DLC when that comes out for 25 dollars in a year's time

>>175499986

Which will come with super weapons and gunboat diplomacy galore.

>>175499179
> is bad at game
>"t-this game is BAD!!"

>>175500139
I wish there was actual gunboat diplomacy in the base game, I want to park my cruisers above some inferior nation to force them to buy my space-opium.

>>175500218
Fuck off Wiz you useless autist

>>175500139
But will also remove several small yet useful features and cause the AI to have several annoying glitches which will take half a year to fix despite paradox claiming to be continuously playtesting

Also the superweapons won't be available until so late in the game that you'll have already won

>>175500395
Get meme'd on shitlord. Go back to your easily avoided border disputes.

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Should I divide my empire into more sectors? I can have 10 but I'm only using three.

>>175487878
Thank you so much for the kindness to post a Stellaris-related image for my OCD brain to handle! Please do have a wonderful day, OP.

>>175498129
Everyone knows that installing mods is more fun than actually playing them.

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Would the combine be?

>materialist, authoritarian, xenophobe.

or

>fanatical authoritarian, xenophobe.

Intelligent, Natural Sociologist, Decadent trait?

>>175500804
I wish this wasn't so true. I spent something like 12 hours setting up mods for my last New vegas playthrough.

>>175500835
I'm not sure I'd describe them as xenophobe, fanatic authoritarian and materialist maybe?

>>175500620
>>175500620
Why's your Influence income so high but Energy and Minerals so low?

>>175500835
>Xenophobe
How come? They're made up of multiple (albeit modified) species.

>>175501026

To get something else than chattel slavery.

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Am i meme enough?

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Missiles, ladies and gentlemen. Missiles.

>>175501132
>no missiles
You were close.

>>175501132
>Hyperspace
Yup, you sure completed the meme package right there

>>175500998
635 energy 485 minerals and are being spent on ship maintenance.

I have NSC if it's anything relevant to it.

>>175490189
What is the W supposed to represent in ^w^. I don't get it...

>>175501378
The mouth

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>Everybody will use hyperspace in the next patch.
>Other FTL have to be researched.

>>175501132

> >:3

Nice touch.

>>175501378
The mouth, since from the front, it looks like it's smiling.

>>175501132
>>175501765
Shouldn't it be >::3 ?

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>>175501592
>Paradox fell for the hyperlane meme

>>175499269
Exactly my point.

>>175501592
>this retard is still posting this conjecture based on a passing remark

>>175501592
>how do we balance the worst FTL?
>let's just force everyone to use it!
As expected of Paradox.

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>>175501246
Yeah, i missed that.

>>175500218
Funny you say that because everyone else in the galaxy besides FEs are inferior or pathetic. I COULD stomp them in a war even with their defensive pacts but it would take so much warscore padding I'd bore myself to death.

Great game
I can't do anything about my stupid inferior neighbor because they are protected by terminal boredom

>>175501132

Resilient trait and expect it will do anything. Also, warrior culture.

>>175502428
The next meme it needs is using a different ship type than your species

Is Beyond Earth or Civ 6 better than Civ 5 Complete yet?

>>175501592
>Rebuild
>At least 5 planets completely desintegrated

Are sectors at least semi-competent these days?
Can I just plop down the initial buildings and trust the sector AI do to its job upgrading them?

>>175501984
ha

>>175502859
building planets is trivial for a K2 civ, and the empire is well past the K2 point

>>175503020
No but they can do that much

>>175501592
source?

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>>175502540
>>175502764
Thx, senpaitachi

>reclaim 50+ planets worth of space after unbidden purge a quarter of the galaxy
>have to queue every mining station manually
DW-tier automation to delegate all the tedium to when?

>>175503919
It's beautiful.

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>>175504041
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691008512

>>175503919
truly 10/10

What's the best Ascension perk to take first? I keep changing my mind.

>>175502437
>I'm too stupid to use frontier outposts to stake claims BUT I'M REALLY GOOD AT THIS GAME GUYS!!!

Migration/no migration for founder species?

>>175504430
I like Technological Ascendancy

>>175502841
>Beyond Earth
lol

I genuinely feel bad for the people who worked on that project. It must suck knowing how irrelevant your work turned out to be.

>>175504430
Border Range or Tech

>>175502764
That is a necessary meme with how ugly most of the ship type are.

>>175501212
I hate this. Missiles are by far my favourite spehs weapons but they're completely unusable.

They need to make them a shitload faster in terms of how fast they fly and make them more resistant to PD, particular the late-game missiles.

>>175502841
Civ 6 is good but not Civ 5 complete good yet. I prefer Civ 6 at the moment but thats in part due to being burned out of civ 5 and liking the changes in 6.

Beyond Earth was killed before it had a chance.

>>175504430
mastery of nature is the one with the free tile blocking removal isn't it? if its still early, it can be very very useful the first decades of the game, especially if you got one of the adaptive traits or are using a planet mod and need to research many different tile blockers

>>175504041
It's called sectors.
Alternatively just queue.

>>175496093
AlphaMod, Guilis Planet Modifiers, Additional Traits, Abandon Colony, Megastructures and Horizon Signal Fix

>>175504720
>>175504837
Alright, thanks for the advice. I guess I'll wait for Civ6 Complete.

>>175504720
>> It must suck knowing how irrelevant your work turned out to be.
At least it was released. I'll hate to be that guy who had to painstakingly create artwork or models, for a game that would never see the light of day.

>>175506669
what does alphamod even do

>>175506736
It'll probably be on par or better than civ 5 complete after the first expansion. Its at a much better place at the moment than civ 5 was at this stage of its life.

>>175506847
it's fucking cray-cray, dude

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>>175506669
>alphamod

>>175506847
adds colonisable barren worlds and asteroids, more options to specialize worlds, new spaceport modules, strategic resources and buildings to use them

>>175506669
Alphamod is a pain because it conflicts with EVERYTHING, the guy just edits the vanilla files and doesn't give a fuck.

>>175506847

Adds autism tier bloat, meaningless fluff and other such crap

>automated dreadnought in one system linked to event chain
>dimensional horror in another one
Fuck you too, game.

>>175507218
we told you bro
we told you about hyperlanes bro

>>175507218
>install more and extra events
>get event about different failed precursor uplifts
>one of them is in one of my important colonised systems
>spawns a 1k strength crystal in the first 5 years of the game

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>>175506847
IT'S A WILD RIDE

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>>175507218
>any early game event chain
>one step is always inside FE territory
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

>>175507363
Thank god I didn't fall for the hyperlane meme. It'll just make completing events a bit harder, that's all.

>>175507421
>brands of fealty
wtf

>>175507421
Most of those make no sense as strategics.

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>>175504323

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>>175507849
I think that was actually traded to me by an Authoritarian empire, they use it as a requirement for a unique building or something

>>175507974
don't need to tell me that, senpai

So I've got a Autochton Monument, a Temple, and a Symbol of Unity as building options.
Does this mean I'm supposed to reserve three building tiles of each planet I have for them?
I usually turn my homeworld into a research world, but I guess I could replace some research labs with them?

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>>175508267
>misunderstanding energy credits this badly
THEY'RE AN ABSTRACTION

>>175508460
No, symbol of unity isn't worth it, temple is if you need unity and reduced ethics divergence.

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Despite getting dropped into an early game clusterfuck, the Imperium of Man has secured a valuable stretch of habitable planets, easily doubling the size of the Empire in a matter of years.

We've dubbed this new stretch of space The Resource Belt due to the high quantity of minerals in the area.

Long Live our Immortal Emperor

>>175508460

You can skip the symbol of unity since it has no upgrades like the other 2 and the 5% happiness is kinda shit.

Autochthon and temple are too good to pass up on each planet, imo

I need a new city builder/resource management/transport game
Already overdosed
>anno
>openttd
>skylines
>simcity
>tropicos
>sierra shit
pls send help

>>175509026
Banished.

>>175509130
Already overdosed that one too. And dwarf fort

>>175509026
play some RCT my man

OpenRCT of course.

>>175509227
This. RCT is still one of the best games I've ever played.

>>175509026

Pick up the Caesar series.

>>175509026

The Guild 2: Renaissance is pretty fun. Dynasty business simulator, with all the intrigue, cut-throat politics, shit like that. Fun game

Rimworld is a survival game where your people crash-land on a shit hole planet and have to make do.

RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 if you want another "transport" game, same developer as ttd. You can get OpenRCT2 but I think you need the vanilla game, you can find a pirated GOG version somewhere. RCT 3 is alright, needs mods though imo. Planet coaster is good for a modern game, but more of a design-y game than a game-y game.

Those are my favorite ones.

>>175509203
Towns

>>175509448
>>175509026

Oh, prison architect is another good one. Start with a shitty holding cell for alchies, build up to a supermax prison for the worst of the worst.

Omerta: city of gangsters if you like tropico and the 40s mafia setting. Though it gets old pretty fast.

>>175509419
>sierra shit
Already did :(
>>175509448
I'm waiting for the new guild, the others were played to death
>rolercoaster 2
too
>>175509491
Is it good? For a game to have a bad steam rating it must be really really bad

>>175509572
It was never finished but there's a few mods.
I quite like it.

>>175509572
What about Emperor? That was my favorite Sierra game.

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Which specie ship do you like the most?

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Getting ready for a comfy tall game

>>175496093

Get UI 1080p and the mini ship icons like here >>175495124

Also unique system spawn 100% ( there are a few mini quest , flavor systems that don't allways appear , it also makes all leviathans appear) Get Leviathans and Utopia DLC

>>175510342

Mammalian > Avian > Mollusc > The Rest > Shit > Reptilian

>>175510342
Mammalian tied with molluscoid.

>>175510469
Well, I think Reptilian ships look nice.

>>175510585

I'm a battleshipaboo and hate that they are just rectangles. Cruisers are a bit shit too.

Early baseline corvette spam still optimal for early game?

>>175511121

no, starports are too powerful and most of the time the AI rushes destroyers, meaning their corvettes will smash yours while your corvettes focus on their tanked out the ass destroyers.

Is there any way to change pre-sentient species from being locked as undesirable?

I've got a species in the way on a planet with betharian stone. I'd like not to have to purge the shit out of them if I can help it, but I need that fucking planet.

>>175511273

What do, then? Destroyer rush?

>terraforming tech won't come up
>gene modding tech won't come up
>habitability bonus techs won't come up
EAT SHIT AND DIE PARADOX I LEGITIMATELY ONLY NEED ONE AND INSTEAD GET SHIT LIKE CHEAP WAR DEMANDS

>>175492138
The whole point of corvettes is to be cheap cannon-fodder.

No amount of shield upgrades is going to let a corvette stand up against a heavy cruiser or battleship. Your best strategy is to make them cheap, fast, and packing as much firepower as you can cram into them and then just clusterfuck the enemy with them.

>>175511306
In the edicts tab I think you can change their status from "Do not tolerate pre-sentients" to "Tolerate pre-sentients", but I think their territory has to be within your borders already for that to appear.

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I'm roleplaying as an Auhoritarian/Spiritualist/Xenophobe faction that is into Slavery.

What should be my reaction when I encounter a pre-FTL species? Should I just outright conquer them? Or should I indoctrinate? Infiltrate? Enlighten and then vassalize?

I've only played Egalitarian/Materialist/Xenophile dudes that enlightened pre-FTL folks so I don't know the best procedure in this case. I'm guessing conquer? But will that have any repercussions?

Is it possible to create a mega-federation by starting with the right ethos and liberating everyone so they get AI traits which have bonuses towards federation acceptance? Thinking of Fanatic Xenophile paired with regular Pacifist or Egalitarian and Democratic authority for Federation Builder AI type.

Or is Democratic Crusader better? They get less total opinion bonuses due to lack of mutual Xenophilia despite the mutual democracy bonus and also lower initial federation acceptance, but I'm wondering if they're more prone to voting yes on offensive liberating wars.

>>175511664

You can play it a couple of different ways because you're set up for it to be one of the following:

Crush the Xenos
The Xenos are an innocent race, teach them the proper ways of worshipping <God>/<The State>

>>175509572
There's Towns, Gnomoria, Rimworld...
But they all feel like Dwarf Fortress Lite.

>>175511664
Depends on the age they are in. They get a debuff on them that lasts for a long time, the more primitive they are, the longer the duration. It's like -50% to all yields. So, if the planet isn't too good, you can't resettle them to somewhere else due to their habitability type, their traits are undesirable or it would take too long for them to become useful, forget they exist and just build an obs post with aggressive as its setting.

If all of those aren't true, invade them with about 3 assault armies and take the planet. Enlightenment isn't worth it unless you're pacifistic. Indoctrination before invasion however is a good idea if you don't want them to shit out antithetical factions.

Is there even any danger in researching sentient AI if you don't develop droids?

>>175511664
If you want to split the difference you can always go for a caste system.

wanting to do a pacifist/spiritualist play through
should i add xenophile or go fanatic pacifist or fanatic spiritualist
and if i do which one do i go fanatic

>>175512039

No, but you will suffer -5 with Materialist fallen empires.

For the AI crisis to happen, you need Sentient AI, Synths and Synthetic Personality Matrix or something like that. Then, when your synths can produce rulers, they will ask for rights.

>>175512039
No. The real trigger is building synths, so even if you research them as long as you don't build any nothing bad will happen.

>>175512039
Not really apart from some minor opinion debuffs with certain empires. But if you're not going to build droids there's not really any point in researching droid-related upgrades apart from the tactical computer upgrade

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>declare war on materialist rival neighbour
>liberate a few planets to vassalise
>these planets are multikulti as fuck, the most populous species are actually synths, new empire is technically theirs
>as spiritualists, this instantly disassemble the robots, except evidently their GovernoBot 3000
>some time passes
>they get ascension perks, go with psychic
>this gives the long dead synths the latent psychic trait
>soon my vassal will be a people ruled by psychic robots who now haunt them from the Shroud

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>>175512587

>>175511502
KA/Plasma Cruiser spam.

Is there anywhere I can look at all the ship models for Stellaris? I want to know what the plantoid battleship and cruiser look like, as well as the arthropod ones.

Warp or Wormholes?

>>175513067
Hyperdrives duh

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>faster than light starts playing

Loved that battle, was the culmination of my whole campaign, this awakened empire was the last enemy on the map.

>>175512820

>early game
>KA/Plasma

baka

I'm planning on doing a genetics-oriented materialist play through, so I was thinking of making the materialist ethos less focused on robots. Does swapping the robot maintenance cost reduction with mining/research station maintenance cost reduction sound balanced?

>>175513009
It's easiest to just launch a new game with the ship type you want to look at and using the console type "research_technologies" or "research_technologies 1". Then open up the ship browser and look at the ships.

>>175488052
White and based

>>175513716
That sounds really tedious.

>>175514093
that takes like 1 minute you twat

>>175510342
Anthropoid first, followed by Reptilian.

Mammalian ships are the worst ones, but their largest ships look alright.

>>175514093

You could have done it by now

>>175513574
i dont reed so good

>>175514350
The only ship I have a real issue with is the Mammalian corvette. Looks like utter shit.

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>>175514539
It does look like an electric razor.

>>175510342
fungoid>avian>molluscoid>mammalian>reptillian>arthropoid>plantoid

Most victory conditions in games seem kind of lame. There is either an arbitrary point of be the first to research the final technology and you win, or build this final wonder building first and you win. The problem is that if someone is just one turn behind you, they'll lose the game, but the other issue is that because they've been designed so you can't usually rush them too much, if you've been in a dominate position all game you just have to wait to finish the projects or checkboxes in order to count as winning the game.

What would be the best solution? Make it easier to get a 'scientific victory' but if anyone is close enough it doesn't count unless you either drop them down enough or reach a second victory condition? Make all victories based on score that is calculated each time you reach a milestone? Something else?

>>175510585
that's the wrong opinion loser

>>175510342
>Plantoids can't have biological weaponry and starships

GAY

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Kinda new to stellaris, how are you supposed to keep up with the AI in wars? They seem to be able to spam battlecruisers out the ass at a rate that I cant even comprehend. Just making three battlecruisers nearly drains me of all my minerals. I feel like I'm being cheated

>>175515485
That picture triggers me so damn much.

>>175515248
The issue is the game is rarely close enough for them not to feel like tedious box checking and pressing next turn.

As for the first problem Beyond Earth handled it fairly well with the victory condition sudden victory having a rationale for how it worked and needing to defend your victory condition building. Shame about the rest of the game

>>175515534
I know, wasting all that fucking nesquik.

>>175515485

Post a pic of your current game so we can judge a bit better m8

Hard to know without your planet count, mineral income, etc.

>>175515485
Well, building a better economy/gitting gud would be a start, the AI is shit at planet management so it really shouldn't be outperforming you.

That said, if you can't do it that way for whatever reason, my usual tactic against shit like AE's where you feasibly can't match them in terms of ship quality or quantity, is to distract their fleet whilst I take out their orbital infrastructure and land legions of clones on all their planets, which strangles their ability to produce new ships.

If you can take out all their existing spaceports, hunt down their construction ships and successfully occupy all their planets, you've won, regardless of how powerful their fleet is relative to yours.

Is Horizon Signal bug? I got it actived in 2 of my games and still can't continue.

HOSTILE FLEET DETECTED

question for stellaris players, if i'm playing a hivemind with desert planet preference, does this mean i can still colonize any world thats habitable, since happiness doesnt factor in at all?

or should i still gene mod them to be more agreeable to the planet being colonized?

>>175489076
Worst system names I get are Belgium and Burrito

>>175516271
HOSTILE FEET DETECTED

>>175516138
I'll take some of those strategies into effect when I get home, wish me luck

>>175516672

FLEEING HOSTILE FLEET

>>175516818
SCIENCE SHIP LOST

>>175517131
CASUALTIES

>>175517131

STATION UNDER ATTACK

>>175513067
hyperdrive - it's just too goddamn convenient being able to expand out to a few nearby bottleneck systems and then building up a shitton of military bases there.

>>175517195
ANOMALY DETECTED

>>175517420
Unless its not hyperlane only in which case its hellish

>>175517578
>>175517195
>>175517186
>>175517131
>>175516672
Tutorial-kun is cute.

CUTE!

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>>175517420

Yeah, Hyperdrives are great.

I can't decide between elliptical and 2 arms spiral galaxy, which one is more fun in your opinion?

>>175517670
I always play with Force FTL on. I can play any of the FTL options alright (I'm not great with wormholes, but I'm not completely hopeless), but as it stands they're just not balanced enough to ever play in a free-for-all match.

>>175518046
elliptical
i see no point in restraining anyone's movement options

>>175518046

Warp and wormholes Elliptical

Hypermemes only Spiral 4s

>>175517874
I didn't say it's perfect, but if you're not looking to be immediately onset from all sides, or want to be able to secure your home system, memedrive is the best option.

>>175518225
>hypermemes only on spiral
>spawn with homeworld in a little nook near the center of the galaxy
>end up with nearly a dozen systems between my homeworld and the nearest junction point
Best start you could hope for. I had four planets colonized and a pretty sizable fleet before I ran into my first empire.

>>175516472

p.. please respond

Can defense station minefields hit strike craft or do they just evade the damage?

>>175518197
Won't the AI eventually research jump drives?

Can custom empires show up as fallen empires?

>>175518987
They don't hit anything but battleships.
20% accuracy is one hell of a weapon

is there a mod that creates tech to let you use fallen empire ships in the later game (while nerfing the titan too)?
>>175519013
not without modding

>>175519008
Yes but its fun while it lasts.

>science ship i send into an unscouted system just happens to spawn in close enough to crystalcunts to die instantly

>>175519013

I had one of my custom created species (not empires) show up as the race for an FE. Same picture, traits, species name, etc. Just didn't have the name of my custom empire.

Dunno if a mod caused it, but yeah.

>>175519467
>science ship about to leave a system manages to get dropped on by space amoeba niggers

>>175519008
Regardless of what FTL you've got, everything goes to shit the moment one of your enemies develops jump drive.

If you're playing hyperdrive - they bypass all your bottlenecks.
If you're playing warp drive - they constantly outflank you
If you're playing wormholes - they pop in and blow up all your infrastructure and leave you scrambling to respond

Jump drive is OP as a fuck. If you're not one of the first empires to get it, your only hope is ganging up on whoever was.

>>175519865

Dimensional Horror a best purely because of the 50% free jump drive tech.

>>175519865
There should be a way to prevent this.

>>175519865

i just developed jump drive, am hive mind, everyone wants to kill me, what do

>>175519617

>peacefully migrating across the galaxy legally
>jump into a system with an alien ship right on top of me
>me and my amoebabros defend themselves
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>175520131

I hope the fanatic purifier starfishes genocide your entire, pointless species. Fuck you and fuck everyone who allows you to peacefully pass through their systems.

>get fanatic purifier starfishes
>open communications
>~SnOoOo~

Why aren't there any dog portraits

>>175520051
>>175520127
The answer to these kinds of conundrums is always the same - KILL THEM FIRST

>>175521073
theres a 4 eyed anthropomorphic dog

>even with afterburners, all my corvettes do is fan out and chill behind my cruisers
Why

is KA really necessary? i want to charge deep into phys research and create a fleet with only plasma/disruptors/torpedoes.
would that work?

>>175521302

i just want to be left alone.

>>175516271
>>175516672
I turned off the sound in stellaris an hour into my first playthrough and never looked back

>>175521842

It's stellaris lad, you don't have to minmax, and tech rng will probably give you KA anyway. Just put 1 L disruptor on your plasma cruisers and you'll be fine.

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>>175488576
Bumping again

>>175522209

But anon, what about SITUATION LOG, UPDATED

>>175521842
Sure it'll work, it just might not be optimal.

>>175521439
Aren't all of the visual effects during battle entirely cosmetic?

>>175522036
WELL WHEN THIS TRAIN EEEEENDS

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>>175522458

No idea fampai, best of luck though.

>>175522485

naw, just fought a dreadnought and all my corvettes were swarming all over the damn thing, arty ships in the back. You might need the tactical computer upgrade

>>175522480

RESEARCH COMPLETE

>>175523010
MY LIFE FOR AIUR

I just got my shit wrecked by 6 gorillian bombers.

Whats the answer there? A ton of point defense?

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Should I restart? This feels beyond awful, the squid fucks are trying to take over my +9 physics black hole and everyone is xenophobe/authoritarian

>>175523947
Flak turrets

Flak absolutely assrapes strike craft and missiles, to the point where they're completely negated

>>175524093

I haven't had a single flak turret research appear and i'm pretty far in, is that just bad luck or am I missing some prereq?

>>175524151
Probably missing a pre-req, if push comes to shove just start checking debris sites in your situation log and see if any of them have flak.

>>175524151
Autocannon level 2 is required for flak, which is a shame because autocannons suck dick

>>175523968
get fucked pussy boy

>>175524221

Ah that explains it, I had been skipping over Autocannons for some time.

>>175524221
I thought autocannons were pretty good until a certain point and by then you'll have moved on from level 2.

>>175523968
declare a war and have them reign in their borders

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>abandoning all traces of planet born life for superior space habitats and ringworlds

Face it planets are for primitives and slave races. Planets are just oversized breeding grounds for nervestapled slave xenos that you import to your space habitats as labor.