/fog/ - Fallout General

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/00voc07ajb1kpph/TankGirls+NickValentine.rar


reminder
for NV

>>175418406
[aggressive bleep]

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>>175418628

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>>175418843
That's one happy robot.

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It's that time again.

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>>175419246
remove mutant

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Dead thread

>>175421223
Is this the end?

Just starting a new game on NV.
Any mod recommentations?
I checked OP ofc, just looking for something else

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>>175421341
'Fraid so.

Post waifus to keep things alive

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>>175419246
eh

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So who was this guy?

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>>175419605
>Personal alignment: Brotherhood of Steel
>Sworn enemy: Synths
>Companion: Nick Valentine

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>>175421610
>mfw some nerd on the Long Distance PipBoy Picture Sharing Network is obsessed with me

>>175421725
How can I block this fucking dyke forever? Can you please use a trip code or a name so I can block you? Honest to fucking christ

>>175422159
he's one of the good ones

>>175422131
Birthday boy

>>175422281

Seems like kind of an overreaction.

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Did you kill him? Why/why not?

>>175423409
Of course, he begged for death

>>175423409
It's only fair, the amount of people maimed by the rides and the companies ruined by his tactics deserved a punishment, but the ending for that was long overdue

>>175419605
https://nv-mp.com/forum/index.php?groups/the-glorious-republic-of-dave.62/

Shilling for this again, I guess.

>>175422131
Jet man, inhales a pound in a single bound

>>175422395
Synths are abominations. Get the fuck out of my BoS.

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hello, i've been a huge skyrim modder since that game was released and i played through fallout 4 but sort of waited a while for the mod scene to... develop, i guess? sorry if this is an awful, awful question, but are there any mods that are regarded as sort of required?

>>175424428
depends on what you're after

>>175424596
i wanna enhance the sandbox world! forget quests and stuff like that, i guess?

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>>175424428

there isnt really anything besides subjective shit

bethesda practically added every required mod from other games into the base game

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>>175424250
Only if you know they're a synth

>>175424428
Any realistic damage mod

Reverb revamped mod

>>175425363
>Only if you know they're a synth

No. Get the fuck out.

>>175425497
How do you know which ones are the synths?

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>>175425363
Ayy

>>175418406
who cares about Nick Valentine

Cait for New Vegas when

I need a character I'm comfortable with pimping out at the Atomic Wrangler

>>175425669
You don't, but you kill the ones you know are synths.

>>175422281
You spend too much time on here. Who are you even talking about

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>>175419246

Is there a mod that adds a Colt SAA to FO4? Try as I might, I can't find one.

>>175427376
what a fag

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Who needs power armor when you have BALLISTIC WEAVE.

>>175427865

That's mean, Anon! Why would say that? You really hurt my feelings, you know?

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current playthrough, also starting a true children of atom playthrough

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>>175428207
>278x210

'newfag' here, was wondering if anyone knew any ways to get the FO4 season pass cheaper? i got the seaon pass when it was like $20, but that was for Xbone, and i've since moved to the master race

so far G2A is looking good, but i guess i could wait for a steam sale too

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>>175428207

Power armor with explosive shielding is better, though

And Strength upgrades so you can loot all the pokemons

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>>175423409

Yeah. Pretty much what >>175423631 said.

Although I felt a little bad for his fangirl that wanted him to live, but I can't begin to imagine what his life was like for 200 years as a head in a jar looking at the same wall day in and day out. I'm surprised he wasn't a gibbering lunatic.

I also got kinda mad at the dialog options, I tried picking the option that made the most sense but then my SS says "I WANT THAT WEAPON AND IM NOT GONNA LET YOU GET IN THE WAY"

I THINK the game wanted you to let her live with him, judging by the dialog

So Obsidian pretty much ended the chance of any more western U.S. games by making every other major city a destroyed or deserted shithole besides maybe Seattle

And both Bethesda and Obsidian seem unwilling to touch the Midwest

And Fallout 3 + Fallout 4 covered most of the northern east coast

so who is ready for Fallout: The South?

>>175430121
I liked her better in 3

>>175422281
is this false flagging? are people really like this?

>>175428858
Pirate the game with dlc

Get the dlc bsa archives and put it in the normal game you bought

I would do this if my shite aus shit internet wasn't so slow and I'm not in a hurry to fuck up all my mods and have to download everything all over again

>>175430781
>is this false flagging? are people really like this?
People like Buffscale exist, no reason why people who hate dykes that love shitty characters and colors.

>>175430552

>1950s era Southern radio songs

I hope you guys like Turkey in the straw played incessantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsnZxfkkoKQ

anyone know if Modern Firearms mod is still getting updated or did the creator drop the mod? last time it was updated was December

>>175428331
bosfag/10

>>175427376
>hating based godd howard/10

>>175421725
gay/10

>>175419605
>enclave

>>175431004
>Ghouls in straw hats and overalls sitting on their front porches of their destroyed homes playing the banjo all day

>>175430998
I have no problem with buff or caitfag. what is with people these days

>>175431004
Turkey in the straw is GOAT Bluegrass music

>>175431685

I guess if it was played well by a good fiddle player, and a fast tempo, I could see myself killing mutant creatures and feral ghouls to it.

>>175431251

Pls no Banjos

>>175430552
>>175431004
Where would be set?

Miami and New Orleans are the only two southern cities worth a shit, and Miami isn't even a "southern" city in the traditional sense.

Anybody else reload only when your mag is actually low? There is no ammo fairy to fill all your magazines again when you keep reloading after only a few shots.

>>175432240
Cs/insurgency/r6s player?

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>>175419246
I am but a simple Legionnaire

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>>175422159
>yfw nobody in the Brotherhood is even so much as passive aggressive even if you bring Nick directly onto the Prydwen

>>175432541
>BoS literally constantly tell Nick to go die for being a synth

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>>175431041

hopefully abandoned forever

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>when you get invisible textures to work

wait a minute

if the birds are actually institute spies

then they would have at least seen virgil go into the glowing sea

and they would have seen me go in/out of the old north church a few times which is at least worth checking out, and since the underground tunnel is obvious anyone walking into the church would find them.

>>175422281
be like the little Dutch boy

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>>175419246

>>175433275
>then they would have at least seen virgil go into the glowing sea
They have, which is why they know he is there

>and they would have seen me go in/out of the old north church a few times which is at least worth checking out, and since the underground tunnel is obvious anyone walking into the church would find them.
They have, your encounter with the Railraod is mentioned in an Institute terminal in the SRB.

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>>175432941

You mean transparent or just invisible? It took me several hours but I loved the result I got when I got my glass plasma tanks working.

I'm gonna make a deathclaw with glowing green transparent skin with his bones showing underneath. A deathclaw that got so irradiated its skin became an X-ray. It will throw radioactive blobs at people and have a 20 or 30 foot radius of Radiation exposure to everything around it.

What sort of adjective should I add to its name, /fog/? Irradiated doesn't seem to be a strong enough word. Maybe "Nuclear deathclaw"? Or "Electromagnetic deathclaw"? "Gamma Deathclaw"?

so who should I give to the white gloves?

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>>175433275

Why won't they send coursers into the glowing sea? Aren't they immune to radiation?

Or are the monsters in it too rough for even their coursers to deal with?

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Cool power-armor-mounted weapons when

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>>175433592
you know how they have that semitransparent checker pattern?

I've been trying to recolor the bornagain combat armors to closer match the vanilla colors but every time I'd save the texture the program made it a gradient instead of that pattern so it was black at the top and white at the bottom instead of starting off more opaque and getting more see through

Gammaclaw sounds nice

wish beth would mix up the names a bit more
>glowing this
>rad that

>>175433592
ass blaster 9000

>>175433797
>Why won't they send coursers into the glowing sea? Aren't they immune to radiation?
Because its not a big enough of a deal for that. Hence why they sent Kellogg.

Did you forget the whole fucking Kellogg memory sequence where X6 comes up to him and tells him to kill Virgil who is in the Glowing Sea?

>>175433878
I was reading your post and couldn't help but notice that you're completely full of shit

>>175431041
he took it down from nexus he has a website now though its still shit

>>175434001

I knew they were sending Kellogg but he's just a man. Maybe they wanted him to die out there.

Unless he has some sort of radiation filter implant that we never see.

>>175434343
>just a man
Game paints him as a nigh-unstoppable murder cyborg with a century of experience

>>175434343
Except the radiation in the glowing sea isn't that bad, seriously, you can walk through it with zero anti rad gear, and find Virgil and get out before suffering any last effects

>>175433797
As far as I understand it, coursers are only for the jobs that the Institute absolutely needs done quickly and efficiently. This isn't the case here, especially considering how the Glowing Sea would present a very real risk of losing one, or even multiple coursers. Why risk your most valuable and expensive operatives when you can just pay off a more expendable merc?

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Bloated ghouls have some weird shit going on.

wait a minute

if father wanted to talk to me and meet me

and he was tracking my progress

why did he let me go into the glowing sea where I would die if I wasnt a player character?

>>175434832
Cause he knows you're that good

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>>175434429

I think they should have scripted the fight a lot more to show how 'unstoppable' he really is.

>The Fatman is RIGHT THERE and it basically says "Use this to win" button on it
>Use it on Kellogg
>Scripted event plays where he grabs the mini-nuke in the air and throws it across the room safely away, or better yet, back at you
"I USED TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL"

Also give him an obscene amount of health and the only way to properly win is to get behind him and go into VATS to hit a special implant as his only "Weak spot" which makes him mortal again when destroyed.

>>175434628
just release it fag

>>175434832
>if father wanted to talk to me and meet me
He didn't.

Shaun himself states on his terminal that if you died before meeting him, it wouldn't have been for nothing as he would have still learned valuable information about his parent, and himself.

>>175434832
Its hinted as early as Kellogs memories that Shaun remotely unfroze you just so you could track down and kill Kellogg in revenge for Nate/Nora. It was a revenge 60 years in the making, and Kellog.only realized it right around the time you invade Fort Hagen.

Also is he wearing T-51 power armor for anyone else? Without fail hes always wearing a t-51. None of the mods I have mention it anywhere.

>>175435024
>launch mini nuke at him
>catches it
>A catapult's not as fast as a speeding bullet, my friend.
>harmlessly tosses it on the ground.

>>175434628

That's some halloween looking shit right there

Kinda reminds me of the skeletal structure of the acid spitting lady from L4D2.

>>175435345

Kellogg? In T-51? You might have a mod that puts a frame in the room and he decides to get in it maybe. Power armor is considered furniture so maybe he decided to get in it and not get out.

>>175435024
>>175435481

>The higher your luck is, the higher the chance that he'll fail at the grab and get blown up spectacularly

>>175436445
>luck
out of all the stupid shit in RPGs, this is the worst.

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Soon.

>>175438157
get back to me when you can post a webm of them doing the Caramel Dance.

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>>175438157

Is there a mod that lets you hire gunners to guard your settlements, or at least recruit gunners as setllers?

>>175438985

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17245/?

>>175438958
I swear you've been posting this same screenshot since 2015

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>>175439457
Uninstalled forever ago so what I too caps of then is all I have for posting.

Here's something that's actually from 2015

>>175439201
sweet, thanks

>>175439587
why still come here and keep posting the same character if you don't even play this game anymore

>>175439895
I mostly lurk. Keeping tabs on any decent mods that show up. Getting the itch to reinstall but going to give it some more time.

>install mods
>play for 3 hours
>stare at tiddies for about 3 minutes
>uninstall for another 5 months

help

>>175439201
Do you have any other hobbies besides playing Fallout 4 and posting on /fog/?

Anons,

Explosive Handmade Rifle or Splattercannon?

I finally bought Splattercannon then an Explosive one dropped off the next legendary on the way to the workbench.

Full auto run and gun commando build.

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>this lack of Cait

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>take a screen of some cool lighting
>notice yandere Cait watching me chatting with Heather
w-we're just friends

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>>175440919
>gathering of the skeletons

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>>175440919

>>175440994
There are currently 3 female body meshes in my save. The one Heather has (normal/thin), the one Cait and I have (skellington), and then one for all other female npc's (close to vanilla). I'm working on making a 4th one for only Cait that's going to be /fit/.

using this with the optional file:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11477/?

>>175441547
3 variations of skellington is still skellington

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>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18748/?

http://mu6.me/131529

>9 seconds in

oh my fucking god i haven't laughed this hard in a long time

>>175442868
Thank you for the fix. Preston's voice was getting really annoying. This is much better.

>>175421610
We gone this long without turning into /tesg/, let's not ruin that

>>175443596
With Buff here, being a pillar and all, it is far too late now.

>>175440689
Splatcannon works better with VATS, so 'splodan hand rifle fits runnan and gunnan better.

>>175440919

Cait should grow up. You can't afford to snub your bunkmates in a concentration camp.

how good are the sexy mods getting

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>>175419246

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Late night progress.

I suddenly have about 500 million unwearable, undropable, fully modded mkv railroad armors that weigh about 130 pounds each in my inventory. is there a neat trick to resolve this problem or is this character fucked?

>>175446679
Nice

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>>175446757
player.removeitem

>>175447240
I thought i remembered there being a console command like that, but how do i figure out the stuck armor's id is, or how do i reference it?

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>just realized that if you press shift you can move through the build menu with wasd

>>175447364
Player.inv or something

>>175446679
BRUTAL

>>175446679
I can't believe something like this wasn't part of the base game.

>>175448208
great, thanks

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>>175446679

Awesome! Looks extra rad with the transition effect.

I love the blue flames effect as well. Is this just going to be a special effects mod or all new weapons?

>>175423409
It would have been awesome if you could have given him a synth body and a newfound objective.

>He realizes that people love nuka cola even after a nuclear war and 200 years
>He realizes that pre war sanitary regulations dont exist anymore
>He realizes that radiation has created a new array of plant life, and hence new flavours
>He gets into a synth body and goes with Sierra exploring the Wasteland into the search of the perfect ingredients for a new post nuclear Nuka Cola

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>cucks

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>>175435843
No frame... I spawned him, and even went by the room hes holed up in (he doesn't spawn until you enter the room proper)

Hes always wearing a suit of golden/solar customized t-51 minus the helmet

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>>175449915

Uhh are you on console?

If you aren't, I'd say check anything that change's Kellogg's actor file with Xedit or something.

If you are...good luck narrowing it down.

>>175450121
My screenshot key is busted.

Please. Don't ask.

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>Killing Kent yourself stuns Sinjin and co that you're worse than them
>"I never liked that idiot anyway."

Heh.

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>>175450172

I've got a broken computer part too. My CPU fan decided to make unholy noises and then stop spinning altogether last night.

I bought a cheapo 5 inch desk fan and jury rigged it to blow on the heatsink as a temporary solution until the fan I ordered on Newegg gets here, and its actually keeping the CPU temp 3c cooler than it used to be, at 28c now.

I reset my BIOS Cmos and due to my Ram timings having to be manually installed, I got two BSODs until I fixed them, and I seriously hope I've got it all behind me now...I don't wanna put in a lot of work on my mod and then suddenly BSOD. The FO4 CK's crazily Ram and CPU intensive, Skyrim's wasn't.

>>175450747
Here's an idea: save it in a flash drive you freak of nature. Or a disc. Something physical.

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>>175432482
can you take a screenshot so i can see your outfit? looks cool

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>>175446679
What is this?

Thanks to certain mods, I can fulfill my dream of being a rogue enclave trooper right from the start. Thank, modifications!

-This ad brought to you by Nuka-Pepsi.-

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Alright /fog/, show me your robots! Post those junk bots and scrap companions

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>>175455925

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>mfw there's only one dose of the cure and they wanna give it to that annoying orphan

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>>175455925

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So, after all this time, has it been concluded whether or not Fallout 4 is shit or decent? What do you guys really think?

What are some major differences and reasons to play New Vegas over FO4 and vice versa?

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>>175461004
I don't really want to get into a whole pissing contest again, but I prefer NV over 4 simply because I don't feel like the systems established in NV or 3 were improved moving forward. It's disappointing more than aggravating.

>reasons to play New Vegas
You want to play an RPG.

>reasons to play FO4
You want to play Borderlands lite.

>>175461004
From a pure design standpoint 4 is a mess of a game.

The game is obviously built around the mechanics they redesigned or added (e.g. power armour, combat and settlement building) and the focus of the game appears to have been lost because of it.

Todd as a developer seems very passionate about what he can do mechanically, rather than what he can do narratively. It's why I think he'd be better served not being in a game lead role and moreso as the lead designer, where his ambition for features can be managed by someone above him.

tl;dr Todd seems to suffer from the same issue as Peter Molyneux, only he's not as quick to jump the gun with features that don't exist yet.

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>>175419246
had to make a new one since i lost all the images on my pc

>>175462296
I pretty much agree. While I can appreciate letting the developers have some fun with the whole "quests being pulled from a hat" thing, the overall world itself and the story of the game lacks punch. It's not really tied together at all, and that's what led to me abandoning my playthrough after like 120 hours. I was hoping for everything to build up and everything I had done to matter despite it being a Bethesda game. But when I went back for the main story it was this disconnected skeleton that largely contradicted what makes up the bulk of the game.

It's like the sidequests are a televised animated series and the main quest is a movie. But the movie fucking sucked while the animated series tangentially based on it was pretty good.

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>Institute rifles stop playing sounds when used by NPCs (only the rifles, pistols and automatics seem to work just fine)
>disable all my mods, see if the problem persists
>it does
>even on a new character with no mods
>figure it might be a loose file somewhere
>backup folder, do a clean install of the game
>test it again with a fresh save
>STILL NO SOUNDS

what the actual fuck

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new Fallout set in West Coast by Obsidian when?

>>175464081
Whenever Bethesda hires them to do it. Obsidian operates on contracts, largely. If they get contracted for the work, they'd probably be hip to it.

Guys are there any recent mods worth a damn in this year so far?

>>175462907
This man knows how to new Vegas

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>>175419246

>>175464081
>>175464557
Alot of people that worked on FNV and FO1/2 have left Obsidian though

why the FUCK wont the ENB files work with my fallout 4?

no luck with fallout script extender either. just feeds me a black screen. Steam version so its not like I'm using an outdated version of the game.

>>175469793
Are you retarded?

>>175463515

Fixed it but holy fucking shit what


>delve into the creation kit
>sounds are associated with weapons by a keyword system
>so s_40_laserinstitute has sound sets for the player, npcs, and automatic fire for both
>BUT WAIT
>NO SEMI AUTO NPC SOUND SET
>add in new sound set for this
>boot up game
>works like a charm

This was just with a freshly downloaded fallout4.esm loaded into the CK. What the hell Bethesda?

>>175470037
>le u retarded xDD

faggot if you don't have a suggestion fuck off

Does the Incendiary effect on The Gainer get reduced by energy resistance or something? I've yet to see it do anything other than make my bullets look cool (which I'm fine with, as I'm not exactly swimming in .44 legendaries).

>>175470079
Upload it to the nexus and get free endorsements.

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Any reason why half my texture mods keep showing as disabled?

>>175470169
>hurr durr ENB WON'T WORK
Faggot if you can't explain what you did without throwing a tantrum then fuckoff.

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>>175419246

>>175470860
>nmm

>>175471031
>Not Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
>No mechanic jumpsuit
>No vodka
shit-tier slav

>>175469054
Josh Sawyer, the project lead, is still there.

>>175471605
And if the jsawyer mod is any indication, he was the best part of NV.

What are your opinions on Mission Mojave?

>>175472208
Fixes a lot of worldspace, navmesh and dialogue issues. It's pretty good and does what it says on the tin, but can be a pain in the ass to manage compatibilities.

>>175446673

That's not a bad chart. I'm getting a consistent vibe off of him, someone that prizes justice and stoic self-reliance.

>>175449479
>no one even looks over, including his wife

Damn, dude.

>>175472812
honestly he didn't start out that way, hes the first character ive played that i had an actual arc with. he was a selfish sniper type before meeting boone and having heard his backstory with muh dead wife had to go off for awhile to think, ended up going full circle in his beliefs.

>>175446673
>unironically enjoying Deezer's irradiated piss

>>175469054
>>175471605
as much as i know we would want this to happen, and as fantastic as Josh Sawyer is, i wouldnt get your hopes up
JSawyer is great but he cant carry a whole game himself

>>175473248
I don't know what you think we mean.

We're not implying Josh should make a new Fallout in his garage and upload it to the Nexus.

He was the project lead for the previous and much the game's creative direction was his own. The formulas been established once and if he's any good at his job he'll know how to improve it.

As invalidating to the efforts of much of the game's gruntwork, programmers, artists, etc are all expendable.

i'm the type of guy

>>175455328
>enclave
to be quite honest I'm getting tired of seeing mods, storylines and characters that amount to 'dude enclave' as a rational for their existence

>>175474847
>http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
One idea I had was for an entrenched outpost of the Enclave that was stationed in facilities abandoned after the Anchorage incursion that would come down and use cryo weapons and a weather dominator machine, having used their terrain to become masters of arctic warfare. Would outright bring shit like winterized shadowclaws and mechanized walkers into play.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23872/?

sucks it has no use

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>>175475832
>>http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
No fucking idea why that was copied. Firefox has been doing weird shit.

are there any good mods for better faces in general? i feel like there aren't many good face retexture type mods
that i can find, at least

Also, the attempt to come up with a replacement for the legendary drop system has me wondering if I shouldn't just remove all special drops and double native loot values.

Or I could have them drop sweetrolls and make sweetrolls more than just a food item. Turn them into some sort of super-chem. Complete with Sweetroll Addiction.

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Is it worth modding Fallout 4 now? I stopped trying because every few weeks there would be an update that would break anything. Is that still the case?

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How hard would it be to mod a holo sight onto a revolver like Millenias?

if anyone knows of a decent looking revolver mod that comes similar to it that would be pretty neat too

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>>175477915
>Or I could have them drop sweetrolls and make sweetrolls more than just a food item. Turn them into some sort of super-chem. Complete with Sweetroll Addiction.

Alternatively, and less retarded, could have them drop a sort of amped up version of Psycho and then come up with a fun little side-quest to explain it.

>>175474543
WHO LIKES TO ROAM AROUND

Currently picked a save i had left from last year on NV, wanna try playing it first time with mods and stuff.
Do i need to start all over again to play with the essentials like, idk, project nevada?
Help me on this one people, also tell me what mods should i install

Honestly why is a World of Pain so highly regarded?

The shit is trash. Weird unbelievable npcs as well as a fuckton of strange pseudo unique guns that feel extremely out of place. If I disable it will anything happen to my save?

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>>175478682
IM NEVER IN ONE PLACE

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>>175451906
Sorry if it's too dark. It's the Courier Duster you get after beating LR. The only problem with the outfit is that the Vexillarius Helmet breaks too often, but that's the price of looking cool.

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>TFW you finally snap and decapitate someone for claiming Fallout takes place in the 1950s

>>175480282
i can almost understand it for someone just kinda modding looking for things to do
however i agree its absolute garbage and out of place with the rest of the world

disabling it should be alright on your save, as long as you are not in one of the interiors from it

>>175472208
Use YUP for bugfixes, Mission Mojave does too much 'rebalancing'.

>>175478068
pls respon

>>175483862
ull b fine

>>175483862
Anon, you said the updates keep breaking the game/mods/etc..... so what should you check to see when the last update was and/or the next update is planned to come out?

>>175480282
It's a lot like Fallout 4 when you think about it.

>>175484179
Not really.

>>175473248
>and as fantastic as Josh Sawyer is
Josh isn't fantastic though

Literally everything WRONG with New Vegas can be laid at his feet.

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>>175481858
that's a pretty good look honestly. i wonder how my duster will look since i went legion early in my playthrough and then independent.

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>when you forget to give Sheffield a gun but he's so hopped up on Nuka-Cola that he just runs in and starts punching everybody

>>175464081
There is nothing left for OBsidian to do on the west coast

-Fallout 1 had LA
-Fallout 2 had San Fran
-New Vegas had Vegas
-Salt Lake City was entirely destroyed by nukes, and was hit so hard that the great Salt Lake evaporated
-Denver is entirely abandoned by humans, and is simply overrun by wild dogs
-Phoenix and Tuscon were nothing more then ruins, plagued by raiders so thick they made D.C. and Boston look like good places to live, before the Legion came. And after The Legion, they are nothing but small communities of little note.

The only possible place for another western Fallout game to take place in Seattle, and that would be so disconnected from anything else it doesn't even matter that its a west coast game.

do you think nora was an /ss/ kind of girl or a /ll/ kind of girl?

>>175463004
>It's not really tied together at all
That's becuase BEthesda doesn't design worlds as some sort of giant meta conspiracy where everything has to be tied into the main narrative because the real world doesn't work that way, and any game trying to be even remotely believable wouldn't do that.

Indeed, tying everything together was the biggest problem New Vegas had, because it took any semblance of reality out of the game, and turned it into an obviously constructed amusement park of NCR vs Legion.

>>175484179
Not in the slightest. Why do you say this?

>>175486748
If you want the Independent (which is the Ace of Spades) you'll to have neutral or low reputation with NCR, Legion and the Strip.
Seeing your chracter gives me inspiration to make a Legion Executioner using Marked Men armor and the Lobotomite mask

>>175478124
thats like a 5 minute nifskope job pham

copy branch
paste branch
re name it to something not related to animations like scope

make sure to click around and see if there are additional parts

save as something else and addsight or whatever its called

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>>175487373
The entirety of Fallout 4 is a fucking meta-conspiracy, though. It just contradicts the shit out of itself.

Also, your post is bait of the highest degree.

>>175488628
>The entirety of Fallout 4 is a fucking meta-conspiracy, though. It just contradicts the shit out of itself.
Except it doesn't.

>>175486708
care to elaborate friend?
im curious because he seemed to be really passionate about the details all along the way and making sure things got one

>>175464081
enclave moonbase game will be revealed at E3

>>175489329
Sawyer is responsible for The Legion, which doesn't make a lick of sense, and even he has admitted doesn't make any sense.

According to Sawyer, the Legion has no farms, and no mines, and all of its gold currency is obtained by melting down scraps found in towns in the areas they control.

There is also zero corruption in the Legion because reasons.

The Legion also has no towns of its own, it only has military camps. The few non tribal groups they have found weren't enslaved, and aren't considered part of The Legion.

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Hey, is it worth updating everything if the last time I played was right after release?
Are the mods/DLCs worth it?

>>175490000
>mods
definitely

theres been a lot of high quality weapon mods
>dlcs
far harbor and automatron

nuka whorld is pretty bad

the workshops could have been a part of the vanilla game
thing is most of the bigger mods require all the dlc anyway

>>175489652
hmm
yeah i can see that, but i also think much to do with that is the fact that they werent nearly flushed out enough as a faction

all we see in the game is supposed front line of legion conquering force, which can be used an excuse for some of the gripes (although not a very good one)
in lonesome road we see a bit of Dry Wells, which was a trading hub of sort on legion territory
a lot of the things you mentioned i feel would have been alleviated to some degree if there was just more content to the legion, rather than the bare-bones "evil guys" we have in game

>>175490242
>which was a trading hub of sort on legion territory
It was not

Dry Wells was just another stinging area like the Fort.

>a lot of the things you mentioned i feel would have been alleviated to some degree if there was just more content to the legion, rather than the bare-bones "evil guys" we have in game
Everything I mentioned was stuff Sawyer said outside the game itself.

>>175490242
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-BCKD1-1

Edward Sallow created Caesar's Legion as an imitation of the Roman Legion, but without any of the Roman society that supported the Roman Legion. I've written this before, but there are no optimates, no populares, no plebes, no equestrians, no patricians, no senate, no Rome. There's no right to private property (within the Legion itself). There's no civil law. There aren't even the ceremonial trappings of Roman society. Legates don't receive triumphs following a victory. No one in the Legion retires to a villa in Sedona.

It's essentially a Roman legion with only the very top commander having any connection to the "source" culture, the rest being indoctrinated conscripts from cultures that were honestly less well-developed than anything in Gaul. Gauls are pretty sophisticated compared to the 80+ tribes. Gauls could read the Latin or Greek alphabets (Gallic language, obviously), had extensive permanent settlements, roads, calendars, mines, and a whole load of poo poo that groups like the Blackfoots never had.

What Caesar gave to those tribes was order, discipline, an end to internecine tribal violence (eventually), common language, and a common culture that was not rooted in any of their parent cultures. The price was extreme brutality, an enormous loss of life and individual culture, the complete dissolution of anything resembling a traditional family, and the indoctrination of fascist values.

Caesar's Legion isn't the Roman Empire or the Roman Republic. It isn't even the Roman Legion. It's a slave army with trappings of foreign-conscripted Roman legionaries during the late empire. All military, no civilian, and with none of the supporting civilian culture."

>>175490524
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-Formspring-14

The additional Legion locations would have had more traveling non-Legion residents of Legion territories. The Fort and Cottonwood Cove made sense as heavy military outposts where the vast majority of the population consisted of soldiers and slaves. The other locations would have had more "civilians". It's not accurate to think of them as citizens of the Legion (the Legion is purely military), but as non-tribal people who live in areas under Legion control.

While Caesar intentionally enslaves NCR and Mojave residents in the war zone, most of the enslavement that happens in the east happens to tribals. The additional locations would have shown what life is like for those people.
The general tone would have been what you would expect from life under a stable military dictatorship facing no internal resistance: the majority of people enjoy safe and productive lives (more than they had prior to the Legion's arrival) but have no freedoms, rights, or say in what happens in their communities. Water and power flow consistently, food is adequate, travel is safe, and occasionally someone steps afoul of a legionary and gets his or her head cut off. If the Legion tells someone to do something, they only ask once -- even if that means an entire community has to pick up and move fifty miles away. Corruption within the Legion is rare and Caesar deals with it harshly (even by Legion standards).

In short, residents of Legion territories aren't really citizens and they aren't slaves, but they're also not free. People who keep their mouths shut, go about their business, and nod at the rare requests the Legion makes of them -- they can live very well. Many of them don't care at all that they don't have a say in what happens around them (mostly because they felt they never had a say in it before the Legion came, anyway).

>>175488503
good luck with that then, ive been thinking of making YET ANOTHER run, i have about 7 characters already and ive only completed the game with 2 of them.

>>175490691
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-33
"Soldiers in Caesar's Legion don't have personal freedom. They "get" to fight and die for Caesar. It's not a volunteer military, though many legionaries are born or raised into it, so they are effectively brainwashed."

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-46
"Gold and silver have low melting points. They don't need to mine for it if they find it in some other form.

>>175490340
thats what i mean, the faction themselves need just more

>>175490524
>>175490691
>>175491018
im not entirely sure what youre trying to say with these, i understand the legion has a fuckhuge amount of problems, but i wouldnt say because of that Josh hasnt done enough good for the game to still be as good as it is

>>175479697
If you do add several mods, it is better to start a fresh game, as a general rule.

>>175487051
Yeah, because tiny ass primitive maps from settings last seen over a century ago in the gameworld have no reason to be done again. Hell Boneyard itself could do with a 3D game depiction. Also this mindset that games can only be set in a former metropolitan city is fucking bullshit. You could do a game in Santa Barbara about the Shi moving in, beefing with NCR, and having outlaws and rebels in the hills around it throwing chaos into the pot. Or what the fuck is happening in the Salton Sea region? Is it a desert? A lake of toxic sludge? Some wierd mutant swampland?

>>175489652
The Legion itself is alright, although poorly depicted in the vanilla game, mostly because cut content and the idea to make them an obvious bad guy. I do agree with you on Sawyer about his dumbshit "explainations" after the game about the Legion are dumb as shit. But game mechanically Sawyer is solid, he is big on multiple paths to objectives and wide viability of character builds, and his mod is a great rebalance of NV. But his world lore writing leaves something to be desired.

>>175490691
>>175490524
>>175491018
In short
>No farms
>No mining
>No corruption
>No resistance from the people they conquered
>A bunch of tribals who achieved even less then the East Coast and Midwest did in the same 200 year time span
>Led by a bald man who read some history books
>Wears football gear as armor
>Is somehow able to match the 100+ year old, technologically advanced NCR, who has ample access to shit like power armor, riot gear, and even newly made armors, as all as pre and post war military grade weaponry.

>Not the biggest fucking dumb fuck Gary Stues ever made

This is why Sawyer is a fgt. He talks a lot, but doesn't actually think about the shit he makes.

>>175486553
>>175487395
Legendary weapons, ghouls locked up in places in complete isolation they couldn't possibly have survived so long, legendary enemies whose ability is to instantly regain all lost health, nonsensical placement of power armor with functional frames all over the map, etc.

>>175491693
>Yeah, because tiny ass primitive maps from settings last seen over a century ago in the gameworld have no reason to be done again. Hell Boneyard itself could do with a 3D game depiction.
At this point the boneyard has been part of the NCR for over 100 years, and San Fran has been part of the NCR for over 50 years, even more by the time another Fallotu game would takep lace there.

At that point there would be no raiders, no ferals, no hostile super mutants, and mutant wildlife would have been brought under control decades ago.

There would be nothing to do in a modern NCR town besides just walk around and look at all their adobe buildings.

>Also this mindset that games can only be set in a former metropolitan city is fucking bullshit. You could do a game in Santa Barbara about the Shi moving in, beefing with NCR, and having outlaws and rebels in the hills around it throwing chaos into the pot. Or what the fuck is happening in the Salton Sea region? Is it a desert? A lake of toxic sludge? Some wierd mutant swampland?
>Implying anyone cares about Santa Barbara
Big cities are chosen because its the only thing most people can relate too given that most people live in urban areas.

No one ant bum fuck hick town USA since there is nothing to do there

>>175492180
>ghouls locked up in places in complete isolation they couldn't possibly have survived so long
Except its been a thing since Fallout 3 that ghouls can be healed by radiation.

>legendary enemies whose ability is to instantly regain all lost health
>Legendary weapons
Gameplay mechanics found in many games that are not treated as lore in any ways.

>nonsensical placement of power armor with functional frames all over the map, etc.
PA, and PA frames, are almost always found in military bases, near military checkpoints, and on shit like military train transports, or near crashed military vertibirds.

The few suits that aren't are found in the hands of Gunners, and raiders, who can be found near military checkpoints and shit as well.

This isn't even remotely contradictory. We are told in-game that Boston was under martial law with a heavy military occupation force keeping the peace due to food riots and other shit.

>>175491805
If you're so much better at making fallout why not make you're own then??

>>175489652

I think you're misunderstanding Sawyer's words here. The towns in Legion territory aren't part of the Legion, so to speak, but they are absolutely controlled by them (they're basically slaves in all but name) and their production absolutely goes towards supporting the Legion. You seem to think they're unaffiliated.

To say that the Legion has no farms or mines is simply untrue.

>>175490695
I have a similar problem except if I do a run that isn't Legion, I get bored and don't finish the run. It's mostly that the Legion endgame is the most fun out of the 4. Both Yes Man and House are short and NCR one doesn't feel like you're defending the dam.
Hopefully when I go my Donald Trump run, which will happen after the Legion Executioner, I won't get bored since I'll be going Independent,

>>175493297
>To say that the Legion has no farms or mines is simply untrue.
Except Sayer himself states here
>>175491018
>"Gold and silver have low melting points. They don't need to mine for it if they find it in some other form.

He outright states they don't mine because gold and silver are so easy to melt that they can just melt what they find.

>>175481858
Good looking party.

>>175490524
>>175490691
>>175491018
I think the main issue is there isn't much clarification that there is a marked difference in Caesar's Legion, the slave army itself, and the Legion Domain, the region conquered by the Legion. The Legion itself doesn't concern itself with economic needs, tributary settlements within it's domain handle domestic economic development. This makes sense considering Caesar's big game is to defeat the NCR in the Mojave, conquer Vegas as his "New Rome", and rule over the civilian aspects of the submitted NCR. His philosophy was about a disciplined structured military ruling over and protecting the lower civilian classes, who handled the economic aspects of civilization, while the Legion handled security and military matters.

The idea that there is no corruption could be argued as propaganda or simplification; but in any case, Caesar himself has charisma and an obvious cult of personality around him. With this it is easy to imagine that he has a good network of loyalist spies all around his Domain keeping tabs on things. This "secret police" as it were could keep things relatively stable and free of corruption. Corruption, outlaws, and small rebellions are still perfectly possible though, as it's a large geographic area and news only travels as fast as someone can run, but also Legion discipline would focus on stamping out trouble as soon as it is detect, as if they fail to do so, when the local garrison would get replaced, well we all know what happens when a Legion unit fails in their objective.

The only thing I really have an issue, is the idea that a Slavery-prominent faction which has conquered one of the most mineral-rich areas of the country does not do any mining at all. They don't need to be massive industries by any means, but some mining is believable and expected, and the idea that all their mineral wealth is from looting is absolutely absurd.

>>175491805

I think you overestimate the resistance NCR can put up. The Legion isn't conquering their established territory, they're ambushing patrols and attacking camps under the cover of darkness. The NCR's forces in the Mojave are drowning in their own poor logistics, while the Legion are much more logistically robust due to their better wilderness survival skills and very basic equipment needs.

I do think the extremely loyalty and lack of corruption is implausible. I can see Caesar building an empire by catapulting his first tribe forward in military might and snowballing from there, but even by indoctrinating its youth, I just can't swallow that 99% of its inhabitants are unquestionably willing to lay down body and soul for it.

>>175493937
> that there is a marked difference in Caesar's Legion, the slave army itself, and the Legion Domain,
That's because there isn't any distinction.

As Sawyer says himself
>>175490691
>It's not accurate to think of them as citizens of the Legion (the Legion is purely military)

>>175493861

Yeah, so they don't mine gold or silver. It's a far cry to say from there that they don't farm or mine anything of their own.

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>>175493243
>tfw too stupid and unskilled to have any significant career in game development

>>175492331
Yes, because we are shown that the NCR is so fucking capable. What is this idea that the NCR is such a solid civilization that will never go anywhere ever? A civil war is straight possible in California, and downright inevitable if the NCR has nothing less than total victory at Hoover Dam. So much social, economic, and political instability, the NCR is way past it's peak by the 2280s. The idea that you can do no good game settings in California now is just asinine.

>>175492667
But why have the suits not been claimed

Why are communities able to exist a stone's throw from Super Mutant or ghoul hotspots

Not treating magic armor and weapons as "lore" doesn't mean they don't seem any less out of place, and while I can accept that ghouls can enter some torpor like state or subsist entirely off of direct radiation there's little point arguing that the rest of the game feels like a theme park without much thought placed into the gameworld to make it seem cohesive

you guys were complaining about World of Pain adding a lot of those things but they exist for no better reason than for exploration, stuff to fight, and "loot"

So you see it's like Fallout 4 in a lot of ways, hence the statement

>>175494552
A civil war plot would be pointless because the only way it could canonally end is the NCR reforming itself into something better, which just leaves the NCR where it is now, trapped on the western side of the U.S., which is a total shithole, with nowhere to go due to massive environmental factors.

Civil war plotlines in games are pointless, and never really go anywhere.

One would be far better off ignoring the whole thing and just going to Seattle where the NCR would have zero interaction and leave the whole narrative cluster fuck that is the rest of the wets coast in its own little bubble.

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>>175494527
Growing up everyone always told me how smart I was and how they expected me to pick up a career in technology or the sciences or something similar.

Even in college I managed to keep up a 3.8 GPA without trying very hard, studying, and writing most of my papers at the very last minute.

Third year I dropped out, and now I just work in a supermarket as a regular drudge and have done so for years and will probably continue to do so for years.

Life is funny.

>confirmed no pregnancy mod coming for FO4
Welp there goes all of my interest in picking the game back up.

>>175494718
>But why have the suits not been claimed
Most of them are in locked cages that require hacking a terminal to get into, and the fact so many PA frames are in the hands of raiders and Gunners shows that they HAVE been claimed.

Are you blind? or just fucking unable to think more then one step ahead?

>Why are communities able to exist a stone's throw from Super Mutant or ghoul hotspots
Because they have defenses, and super mutants and Feral ghouls are too stupid to make any substantive attacks against places like Diamond City, Goodneighbor, or Bunker Hill.

You know, the same shit they mention several times? Hell, Diamond City worships the wall for the protection it gives.

>here's little point arguing that the rest of the game feels like a theme park without much thought placed into the gameworld to make it seem cohesive
The gameworld overall seem pretty fucking cohesive, especially given most of the shit in it is based off of real world locations.

You can't get more believable then basically tracing the real world.

>you guys were complaining about World of Pain adding a lot of those things but they exist for no better reason than for exploration, stuff to fight, and "loot"
Except AWOP doesn't do it in a believable manner, whereas Fallout 4 does.

>>175495206

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17334/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21625/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20702/?

I know you're trolling, but at least put the effort it.

>>175495058
similar story. I was estimated to be the top 1% for IQ when I was 14 and again when i was 18 and I coasted easy through college on a scholarship but I have no motivation and play video games all day.

not really bothered though because it's what i want to do.

>>175495470
Presets != pregnancy mods

>>175494392
That's exactly what I was referring to. The lower classes (forgot the term used, but they were above Profligates), while under the domain of the Legion itself, are not the Legion. So a lot of the dumb shit Sawyer says could just refer to the Legion itself, which is believable they wouldn't be worried about economic domestic issues. But to assume most of Sawyer's dipshit ideas would apply to lower-class economic civilians in Legion territory, is just stupid. There is no way a faction as large as the Legion could sustain itself for 30 years just on looting alone without some domestic economic support (which is lightly and loosely implied by the non-Legion lower classes within it's domain).

>>175494882
>A civil war plot would be pointless because the only way it could canonally end is the NCR reforming itself into something better, which just leaves the NCR where it is now, trapped on the western side of the U.S., which is a total shithole, with nowhere to go due to massive environmental factors.
Why? Fuck the NCR. Hell Avelone just wanted to nuke it all anyway, why should the NCR canonically win? Because it's what is expected by the comfortable biased city-dwelling market the games sell to?

>One would be far better off ignoring the whole thing and just going to Seattle where the NCR would have zero interaction and leave the whole narrative cluster fuck that is the rest of the wets coast in its own little bubble.
I do generally agree with you on this though, I was just arguing that the idea you can't do games in California anymore is just stupid; as the last games that were depicted there were 50 to 120 years ago in the game world (so a lot has changed). And the idea that the NCR is stable and there can be no good stories or conflicts within the NCR is stupid, and short-sighted. The same kind of bullshit that ruined the Star Wars EU (not every story has to be about saving the fucking galaxy again ffs).

>>175495625
>Why? Fuck the NCR.
Because while Avellone is something of a nihilist everyone else at Bethesda and Obsidian understand that destroying the NCR would be dumb as it would be doing nothing but telling people that all the time they put into Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas meant nothing.

And that is the worst kind of PR you could have.

Its the equivalent of Disney flushing down the entire Star wars expanded universe

>>175495398
>Most of them are in locked cages that require hacking a terminal to get into

It's been two hundred years. I'm not saying that master hackers or locksmiths are a dime a dozen, but there were born within walking distance of that power armour whose grandchildren died of old age without seeing anyone managing to defeat its security.

Even Fallout 3 did better than this. The only power armour that wasn't already in the hands of the Brotherhood or the Enclave was locked in ultra-high security military facilities.

>>175495563

Then what are you hoping for? The pleasure of being come inside, followed by nine months of game time watching your belly grow? Because that's going to be a long, long game.

>>175496175
Essentially yeah, though the game time can be configured.

>>175496094
>The only power armour that wasn't already in the hands of the Brotherhood or the Enclave was locked in ultra-high security military facilities.
Which is fucking stupid and illogical given that, as per lore dating back to Fallout 1, every major city in America was under heavily military occupation in order to suppress riots over the lack of food and other resources.

Power Armor should be all over the place in such quantities that no one faction could reasonably claim it all.

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This sounds cool, but anybody checked it out?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23860/?

>>175496603
Stop shilling your shitty mod.

>>175487328
personally, I think she's more of an /ll/ type

those slender hands have fisted many young girls I bet

>>175496603
>donation link at the bottom

I liked this mod but I had to go into the GECK and edit the stats because of course they gave it retard strength.

>>175496603
Kys

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>>175497279
of course i forgot the link

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23855/?

>>175496746
>>175497395
>people ask about combat/damage overhauls a lot
>one is posted on nexus
>ask about it
>fuck off shill
I didn't know I was on /v/

also this author is ESL that should give you a hint it's not me

>>175497624
>This sounds cool, but anybody checked it out?
No

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>>175495398
>Except AWOP doesn't do it in a believable manner, whereas Fallout 4 does.

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>>175481816

this has to be the best music in all FO radios

though it would fit better with Fo3

>>175495398
Yeah, Captain Chucklefuck?

What about that farm on the edge of the glowing sea with just the one dude and two kids?

Or various other shitty little communities in the ass-end of nowhere right next to places full of feral ghouls, super mutants, or bloodthirsty raiders?

At this point you're just defending bad design while trying to point at other bad design and say they're totally dissimilar.

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Height restrictions?

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>>175500145
What're those?!

>>175495930
First off, chill out with the "reddit spacing". You don't need double linebreaks after every sentence. Secondly, you make a massive assumption that every FO1, FO2, and FONV player is happy with how the NCR developed. Hell they were obnoxious faggots in FO2, and while it was nice to see how humble little Shady Sands became a big power in the region, that doesn't mean everyone is happy with what the NCR turned out to be.

Also everything grows and everything dies, this is the way of things. Anyone who isn't a retard or a bootlicker can see the obvious unsustainability the NCR is suffering from as of 2281. Economic inequality, cultural and social schisms, bureaucratic and merchant-class infighting (with Merchant companies dealing in actual violence against competition). Handwaving things in California as being stable and civilized is bullshit that is more insulting to people who appreciate it's lore and history more than anything else.

>>175500390
>>175500145
Imperial Jetpack?

>>175500391
>Reddit spacing
Where did this meme come from? This is like the only thread i know of that uses the term outside of /v/.

>>175499990
>What about that farm on the edge of the glowing sea with just the one dude and two kids?
Whgat about it?

It's far enough away from the Glowing Sea to not be in the radiation area, and close enough to the glowing sea that no one fucking goes out there, making it actually pretty safe.

>Or various other shitty little communities in the ass-end of nowhere right next to places full of feral ghouls, super mutants, or bloodthirsty raiders?
Such as? The closest thing I can think of is the Forged near the Slog, but thats a recent development.

>>175500391
>First off, chill out with the "reddit spacing"
>basic formatting used on basically every forum is now reddit spacing
what?

>>175500669
>>175500885
there is a /v/tard who frequents the thread. It's the same person who's always rude and condescending for no reason.

>>175500729
They're near the Slog, yes.

But that one farm with the guy that gives you the shishkebab is right next to an area FULL OF SUPER MUTANTS.

You can see the fucking bloodbags from the farm.

>>175496603
was just taking a look at it in xedit, and its pretty pathetic honestly. I'm not even going to start the game with it enabled.

-50% reload speed on everything, which means the animation is just slowed down. must look awful

-some minor damage edits in the weapons file, but not a single weapon mod file was adjusted

-guns weigh more and your carry weight is less. yay fun

-a handful of npcs have more health

-guns have between 2 and 6 times as much recoil, i don't even want to guess how comically stupid that will look in game. a little goes a long ways when tuning recoil

-a general loot nerf were items were removed from container's leveled lists seemingly at random. of note though, all medkits are 100% empty

-some token ai adjustments, pretty rudimentary compared to my own

-xp and core drain nerf

>>175500729
theres fucking mirelurks that will wander into the area of the house

>>175501703
>You can see the fucking bloodbags from the farm.
You are aware that these is this thing called scale, and that in-game distances =/= real world or lore distances right?

Please tell me you aren't so stupid as to think these games have a 1:1 scale

>>175496359

Military occupation doesn't necessarily mean power armour. You wouldn't (and couldn't) use a Black Hawk helicopter to keep every food line well-behaved.

It's nothing less than ridiculous to say that no one could reasonably snatch up all the power armours left out in the open, especially over two centuries. Do you think it's reasonable for supermarkets to still have food on their shelves, 200 years later?

>>175501951
>Do you think it's reasonable for supermarkets to still have food on their shelves, 200 years later?
Given that no one has a reason to raid them since Diamond City has existed for over 150 years, and grows food, sure.

>Military occupation doesn't necessarily mean power armour.
Confirmed for not playing Fallout 1

>>175502104
>Given that no one has a reason to raid them
Literally any hungry being that can read. That shit would've been picked clean within a week.

DC would've sent a scouting party to take stock of what was there and send back for brahmin caravans to take back any useful items.

Scavvers

The Raiders across the street

The Minute Men that used the place

Railroad uses it as a Safehouse so of course they'd pick it clean.

There is no reason for it to still have food.

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>>175501884
Shift those goalposts, bud

Shift em good

>>175502104
>The opening cinematic alone has a power armored soldier executing a Canadian rioter
>and then waving at the camera

>>175500885
>>175500669
I don't know, I've seen it used in /tv/, it refers to constant double linebreaks after a single sentence or a small paragraph. I just used the term as it's the only short label it's been given. I assume it's been from a rise of posting from phones and mobile devices, with more narrow columner formatting; for widescreen formats it can be pretty obnoxious though. I sometimes do it but I do try to chain atleast a few sentences before I double linebreak. I didn't mean to use the term reddit really, as personally while I despise the site I think it's stupid to call people redditors, especially when most of the people whining about cross-board population on 4chan are cancerous newfags themselves. Again, it was just the only descriptive adjective for that type of post formatting (double-linebreaks after single sentences or small paragraphs).

>>175501278
I'm not them though, I actually learned of the term for that sort of spacing from /tv/ (although with all the bullshit on that board, it might as well be /v/).

>>175502774
No one shifted any goalposts, the argument was that people live too close to dangerous shit, and I pointed out how they aren't that close due to game scale being off.

You are just trying to change the subject because you know you have no substantive rebuttal.

>>175502747
>DC would've sent a scouting party to take stock of what was there and send back for brahmin caravans to take back any useful items.
For what purpose when they already had what they needed?

>Scavvers
>The Raiders across the street
>The Minute Men that used the place
All of them died because of ghouls.

>Railroad uses it as a Safehouse so of course they'd pick it clean.
Except they never used it as one.

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>>175503164
>the argument was that people live too close to dangerous shit
>>175501884
>"DO YOU UNDERSCHTAND SHH-CALE YOU FUCKING CASUAL"

>>175503738
>straw manning the argument made this hard

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>>175503164
> the argument was that people live too close to dangerous shit
> Finch Farm
> You are just trying to change the subject because you know you have no substantive rebuttal.

>>175503641
>For what purpose when they already had what they needed?
Because when you're in a hostile environment, having a surplus of supply is always good? Or that they may find salvage that is something they can't reproduce on their own? Of course the risk assessment of sending out a salvage party depends on the resources acquired to the risk to the party, but it would be stupid to assume that Diamond City would just sit in their stadium for 200 years when there were useful things they could acquire outside.

>>175502104
>Given that no one has a reason to raid them since Diamond City has existed for over 150 years, and grows food, sure.

Do you have any fucking idea how long 150 years is?

If you abandoned a grocery store *today* it would be picked clean (except for whatever perishables rotted on the shelves) within a couple of weeks, and that's just from people who don't like paying for food, not anyone who's actually starving.

>Confirmed for not playing Fallout 1

So your argument is that the appearance of two power armoured soldiers in a recently-annexed foreign nation executing a captured insurgent (and thus almost certainly in the aftermath of a raid or some such thing) indicates that there was power armour on every street corner in America's own cities?

I really hope you're baiting me.

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>>175503812
Cup of tea in the bigtime

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Let's be honest looking back at FO3 the settlements were sensibly far away from any real danger.

The first raiders you'd encounter from Megaton were all the way on the other side of Springvale inside the abandoned school or down at the Super Duper Mart on the outskirts of the Capitol.

Even Big Town was, accounting for scale, miles away from the mutants that were attacking them, yet they still got their shit pushed in if the vault dweller didn't help.

>>175504054
>Of course the risk assessment of sending out a salvage party depends on the resources acquired to the risk to the party, but it would be stupid to assume that Diamond City would just sit in their stadium for 200 years when there were useful things they could acquire outside.
Diamond City has functional farms, doctors offices, meat shops, gun stores, clothing stores, general stores, drug stores, a functional water purification system, and a working nuclear reactor to keep everything powered.

The whole point of Diamond City is that its self sufficient as is.

They have no need to send anyone out to get shit, they can just sit back and let everyone in New England come to them because they are the largest functional city in the entire northern third of the East Coast, with only Rivet City and Megaton down in Washington D.C. to compete with.

so how is little lamplight populated

are they fucking? what's the death rate among 10 year olds giving birth in there? isn't macready a father? did he give princess the ol slippery dippery?

>>175503164
I think maybe you're not as smart as you think you are

>>175504627
Obviously they give birth before their 18th birthday. Likely around 14. The rest of the community takes care of the toddler when the parents are forced out. Shithead met a woman after he left Lamplight.

>>175504627
As we see in the Greyditch quest, and are told by several NPCs in the game, people drop off their unwanted children at Lamplight, and Lamplight takes in orphans.

>>175505010
that sounds like bullshit

I doubt some people are going to venture gorillions of miles away from safety into deathclaw filled, yao gaui-covered, raider-infested shitholes just to drop some kid off because they don't wnat it

everyone knows that all of that is some bullshittery

>>175505227
>gorillions of miles
Its not even more then a few.

>>175505428
SHH-CALE YOU FUCKING CASUAL

>>175505578
>shitposting this hard
Are we being raided by /v/ or something?

>>175505428
regardless of how far it is from people, why would someone go through hell just to ditch their kid?

why not just throw it in the river or something

>>175505705
No, just having a little fun at this guy's expense
>>175501884

>>175505761
BEcuase the Captial Wasteland isn't THAT bad.

You seem to forget, there is a well established trade routes going all across the C.W. to basically every major city, and even places like the Talon Company base at Fort Bannister.

It's not that difficult.

>>175505227

They can just send the kid on their own, they're invincible anyway.

>>175504405
Yeah, in general I think FO3 had good world placement. Tenpenny Tower was a bit shitty as a player-home option though, but beyond that I liked it. My only complaint about settlements near threat areas, is Fort Independence is in a shitty spot, down in this low ground right next to a major Raider neighborhood. Often the Outcast up on the bridge will wind up dying over time as he's in such a shitty position.
>>175504627
Random orphans, and the people Big Town probably make a quest to return to Little Lamplight and deliver their children there when it happens. In-cavern births are possible too with the older members; how old was Stumpy, 18 or 16? If 16 the window of internal births would be lower but still possible, if 18 that's plenty of time for young women to have a possible birth before being exiled. Outside orphans and Big Town children returning would be the majority of Lamplight's population though.
>>175505227
While the western hills of the Capital Wasteland do have threats, they aren't that dense as far as hazards. It's not like the Mojave where when you do hit hazards its MMO grindtime amounts of enemies. So it's plausible that groups can make that trek (and plausible that some suffer horrible deaths in the wasteland).

>>175507280
>Tenpenny Tower was a bit shitty as a player-home option though

Potentially an intentional thing. Megaton is a central hub. Even for an evil character, Megaton is a central hub. Going for Tenpenny Tower isn't just an evil choice. It's also a stupid choice.

>>175507843
>>175507280
>tenpenny a shit
i mean...
what else am i supposed to do if i want to Armageddon the whole game?

>>175507280

Tenpenny Tower belongs adjacent Dukov's place but Beth needed something in the lower corner of the map and got lazy. Ingame, it should have been another shopping mall or a gated suburb not a tower in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>175509563
>not a tower in the middle of fucking nowhere.
It was a pre-war resort for the rich that had a large golf course around it.

IIRC, you ca still find remnants of the golf course in some parts around the otwer.

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this triggers the /fog/

>>175509713

>you ca still find remnants of the golf course in some parts around the otwer.

No you can't, as nice as the thought is.

>>175509845
The only thing that triggers me is your skeleton people.

>>175509845
what color would Cait want it to be?

>>175509845

not enough cait