AGDG - Amateur Game Dev General

First for there's literally nothing wrong with CRT shaders.

>>175209765
>Can't find the links for this
If only there were
http://tools.aggydaggy.com/
a website in the OP
That had a section completely dedicated to webm creation
http://tools.aggydaggy.com/tools.html

Second for how the hell do you make moving platforms work?

Guys how do I make a webm to post progress? I can't post progress without webm.

>>175210004
Shift the player by the platform's speed, don't rely on the collisions not fucking up.

>>175209765
>>175210056
https://obsproject.com/
https://github.com/Cephel/4chan-webm-maker

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What video game do you want to make but for which technology isn't good enough yet?

Do you think any advancements will usher in new genres/experiences rather than just improving how they look?

>>175209958
"How do I make a webm like the cool kids? There's no section for it in the OP, even though theres incredibly niche things like models for specific engines. Maybe if I go through line by line... oh, here's something labeled tools, maybe it.. no, theres nothing about tools on the page, maybe if I explore... oh okay, its on a different page.

No one is going go through all that, just admit that if something as particular as Construct 2 deserves its own line in the OP, so does a how-to for making webms

The OP was too long, couldn't scroll down, stopped reading thread, stopped making game. You could've prevented this.

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Who here is bad at their own Game. Also, you guys all have a PS4 controller right?

A webm tool killed my hamster, please never put it in the OP or else I will have to quit game development.

>>175210493
Unity games on Linux

>>175210642
Xbox 360

>>175210486
>https://github.com/Cephel/4chan-webm-maker
jigga what

https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter/tree/master/
or webmcapture also seems good

>>175210560
God it's so terrible. If only there were some method
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+do+I+make+a+webm+for+4chan
with which I could search the internet to find information I need.
Guess there's just no way. I'll just have to never post progress because I don't know how to make webms.

>>175210575
>(8)

so should I use blender to make a house I can walk into or is using the unity cubes retarded?

>>175211503
yeah, you should use blender, especially since there's an add on for making buildings quick

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Two days and a lot of frustration with window/GUI scaling I have re-implemented dialog.

Also moving platforms are a thing.

>>175211503
Please refrain from using unity primitives to build your entire game. My list of reasons to kill myself is long enough already.

Anons, give me reasons not to make my character 2 cm tall in unreal to do as if it was using meters as the base unity like a proper engine.

>>175210392
Risk of Rain is so much better than shitty Undertale

>>175211916
>not to make my character 2 cm tall in unreal to do as if it was using meters as the base unity like a proper engine
I might be stupid but I cant understand what you are trying to say.

>>175211916
if you do then all your character's will feel bad about having dicks measurable in millimeters

>>175211916
>Please refrain from using unity primitives to build your entire game.
thomas was alone did that

>>175211916
Numbers are completely arbitrary, it literally doesn't matter what size you make them.

>>175212023
Well basically the base unit in unreal is the cm, so everything is measured with those. As a result, all measurements are huge numbers, since a mere kilometer is 100000 units.

As for why it annoys me, mostly autism, and also because I have no idea why they'd do that.

>>175211909

If you're going to have verticality like that, shadows are an absolute must for judging distance.

>>175210642
steam controller

>>175210825
by that logic the whole Engines section is also unnecessary

>>175212214
Aren't ints better than floats?
This way you can describe more things using int32

>>175212214
my autism would bother me if all my characters were 1.7 units tall instead of 170 units tall

you have the right to remain a nodev, any progress you post can and will be used against you in this shithole

>>175212485
Why are all your characters manlets?

>>175212234
Sadly I'm aware of that, I've had a few issues with the methods I've tried so far, so lighting is just disabled.

I'm debating just drawing a black circle sprite as a shadow under him and other characters, but fucking transparency is being a cunt.

Until it's genuinely needed it's one of the lower things on my list.

>>175212372
Oh you might be onto something here. IIRC the world origin uses a vector of int32, so you can move that without jittering with cm as base units.

>>175212081
>>175212485
>tfw my characters are manlets with micropenises.

>>175212554
t. 150 unit manlet

>>175212554
hey, 5 foot 7 is well above average height for medieval times

>>175212748
Stop projecting I'm only 120cm

>>175212661
it's not the vertex count of one's genitals that matters, but the length of it's morph target

>>175212779
is that in english feet or french feet

>people gave him shit for this
>despite the fact it's obviously early footage
>closed his twitter
What the actual FUCK
https://youtu.be/iMcits9JMT8

>>175212917
Scottish, they measure to the toenail, and if you've ever seen a Scott's toenails...

>>175213160
why was he getting shit?

>>175213160
that strafing looks like shit

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>>175213302
Lots of negative comments because the franchise was 2D metroidvanias and some autists got pissed cause it was 3D.
Rdein always looked pretty depressive so he obviously took this harder than he should have, he even posted on steam saying he might ditch it and do something else.


>>175213312
The combat and movement is slow as balls but that can obviously be fixed.

>>175213160
The mistake was making it into a 'trailer', the editing and music gives the impression it is further along than it is (especially to the uninformed masses who think Battlefield 'pre-alphas' are real)

What it should have been is editor footage, debug windows everywhere.

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>>175213468
>mfw reading the pic.
Fuck sake. Nodevs are the scum of humanity.

>>175210642
>all have a PS4 controller right?
Haha

>>175213160
I guess that's what happens when you develop a huge fanbase. You can't just venture off and do what you want with the series without pissing some autist off.

I think he had a great start, especially considering it was obviously his first 3D game. All he had to do was fix up the player movement a bit. The graphics/effects were good.

how do you deal with being lonely

>>175213160
That's too bad, although the gameplay shown doesn't look very good and also doesn't attempt to try anything we haven't seen many times over, so I can understand. It looks like a bad attempt at Zelda with nice art direction.

>>175213468
>I'd appreciate if no further discussion was held
What a faggot. Is this whiteknight bait? "noo don't listen to the haters, your game is amazing look im retweeting it! everybody show this project some inspirational love!"

>>175215449
By not caring or getting a pet

>>175215449
open up dating site profiles, send out messages, get ignored, and the lonliness turns to bitterness which can be directed outwards, rather than lonliness stifling you from the inside

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trailer soon

Who the fuck is that Sen guy even?

>>175215449
your project is the only friend you need.

>>175215607
speaking from experience, this is pretty good advice

>>175215661
what Oblivion mod is that?

>>175215661
why would a guy bother lighting torches in a killer dungeon

>people say a bunch of nice things about your art
>it's actually shit and they have bad taste

who /depressive/ ere?

>>175215661
That pendular movement doesn't look right. Surely there must be some established math for that?

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who /construct2/ here?

>>175215607
I tried that, now i'm both lonely and bitter.

>>175216072
iktf

>>175216072
>being modest

>>175216290
>having bad taste

>>175216290
i'm not though, if i posted my art on /ic/ i'd get torn a new ass

>>175209765
Why does the OP always try to immortalize his wow-it's-nothing "witty" comments like this? It's fucking pathetic.

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There's not enough progress in this thread.

Lots of polishing up for the demo and nothing exciting to show, but here's some of the stage 1 theme: https://clyp.it/1a2ueedp

>>175211916
>Please refrain from using unity primitives to build your entire game.
You can't stop me.

>>175216441
so
If I post my progress here I'd get 2-3 replies, yet posting it on tumblr gives me +600 notes and some followers

it's all relative

>>175216710
Always wondered how those shooter progressively spawns enemies.

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Hey look progress

I probably shouldn't spend all this time doing half ass-polish

>>175216441
>implying /ic/ has taste
>implying /ic/ even likes anything

>>175216783
Really? I got four replies on my last post here, does that mean I can become a tumblr superstar?

>>175216948
you're too late, it's a closed circle now

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>>175216783
>+600 notes for gamedev

what's your game anon

>>175216948
Depends.
If you included progress that was asking a question, no that doesn't count.

If they were shitposts, no.

if they were telling you your progress was good, then yes.

>>175217018
colorful gradients

>>175216524
It was the first AGDG picture I found in my chaotic image folder with 20,000 images

>>175217016
>What did he mean by this.
Is it that if you're one of their furry friends you won't make it?

>>175217076
brb making a tumbler.

>>175216902
It's one big timeline. None of the objects in the level are placed in an editor or anything,they're all spawned just off screen right as they are needed.

Your not actually moving though a level either, it's just that everything else is to give the illusion of it.

>>175216710
AGDG sucks for lots of things, but we have a lot of really talented sprite guys. tf when I only make 2D games.

>>175217384
But how do you decide when it's time to spawn each spaceship? Do you spawn group 2 when group 1 are killed? Or by time?

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>>175216524
>>175217235

>>175215970
Why would a bunch of giants bother rolling boulders through a fortress full of snakemen?
Shit man, I'm just a regular guy, I dont know!

>>175217732
I'm thinking doing it all by time would be effective and the simplest.

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>>175217732
Frame by frame. There's extra events for if certain things are killed quickly, you can spawn as many enemies as you want in one frame,and if you do it right you can specify the exact movements every enemy does. If you let the level autoplay the same enemies will always come out at the same time and do (more or less) the same thing.

The first level, for example, is made up of ~12000 frames (not counting when the timer stops for boss fights), and every event like this is placed by hand.

>>175218134
jesus

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>>175216914
Some crappy combat.
These guys didn't downscale as well as Id liked.

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>>175218134
>is made up of ~12000 frames (not counting when the timer stops for boss fights), and every event like this is placed by hand

>>175218339
>>175218792
Remember anons, good shmups are easy to make just like everyone keeps telling you! Go get'em!

no really shmups are easy on the most basic level but making a good one like shmoopdev is doing actually takes hard work, lots of balancing and a love of the craft. Don't let that stop you from trying but be ready to work for anything above mediocre

>>175218976
Yea but, there has to be more efficient ways
The quality/quantity argument kinda falls apart when you can have both

>>175219242
No, this is a fundamental tradeoff that everybody has to make. For example, all fast programs are written in assembly.

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>>175218976
>making a good one like shmoopdev is doing actually takes hard work, lots of balancing and a love of the craft

Yeah basically. Levels are the hardest part of it for me, since it's 5 or so types of enemies used in dozens of different ways for a set period of time reacting off of eachother, as opposed to a boss witch is just 1v1.

>>175219242
Quality over quantity. Always. I'd rather have an great short game than a middling long one. The genre also compliments shortish games, since full game score runs are the thing most people do at high levels.

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it took me some time to nail the timing of the lasers

so in gamemaker, how would you get the object id of something that another object created? Like object x creates object y, could object x get the object ID of y, and if so, how?

>>175219242
Efficiency does not reduce carefully planning out where and what to spawn, how soon and other such things. Can't get away with just throwing random stuff on the screen and hoping for the best (or in the case of bullet hells) throwing as many bullets as you can with no rhyme or reason behind it. Spawns of enemies and the effect they will have on the overall flow of the field or curtains of bullets and how they actually force the player to react (and consequently what you place in the areas they have to dodge into) are all part of a pretty harsh design dance. If you actually like shmups though you should be determined to at least give it a go

>>175219468
You better finish that fit and fill the hole inside me where Gradius 6 belongs.

>>175219621
Object_name = instance_create(whatever)

This would store the newly created object's ID in a variable that you can do whatever with.

>>175219468
I'm not talking about game length quantity, I'm talking about dev time.

With some optimization you could be make levels just as good in a fraction of the time.

Like, how about an enemy spawner? you create ONE and define the amount of enemies it produces, the time intervals they spawn at, speed, position, etc.
After it spawns them all, it deletes itself. How many timeline steps would that save you?

Does the "The Spell" dev post here?

>>175219914
How is that any different than what the timeline is doing? He still has to manually put it in, it would just be in a different way. Granted he could probably pool enemies to save resources from constantly creating and destroying objects but it was shown already that even at 2k+ simple objects the use of pooling in GM:S was basically unnoticeable when it came to making things run smoother/easier/more efficient. Timelines exist for basically what he is doing right now.

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>>175219914
That's what the timeline already does!
It would also be way less efficient to spawn enemies way off screen, since you would then have to calculate there movements long before they do anything of note; I'm trying to keep the game running on toasters here.

>>175219802
It's made to fill the Gradius 6/Thunder Force 7 hole perfectly.

>>175217587
Thanks anon. 2d will never die, there's no shame in only making 2d games.

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>>175219523
Good lasers dude. You webm of the pure spike level made my ass tighter than those videos of Russians hanging on skyscrapers.

>>175219914
The thing is that he's not spawning enemies at a constant interval, nor with constant parameters. If he has to make a new spawner at every keyframe to change speed, position etc, that defeats its purpose.

That's just how tight and fun schmups are done, you gotta micromanage the enemies.

Lots of people were saying I should smooth out the transitions, even if I said in the same post that was my next step heh. That's done now, so I'll either work on level gen or projectiles now.

>>175218134
>timelines with all of their cumbersome interface
>setting parameters of enemies directly in the timeline without any kind of script covering it up for easy global changes
>repeating patterns spread over several timeline steps rather than using some kind of generator (visible on moments 3521-3641)
"it just werks" alright, but boy, this looks way more painful to deal with than it could be

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>>175220393
This is why I posted >>175218792 reaction.

The way he's doing it would make any programmer puke.

Belongs in one of these images.

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Goddamn the discord is fucking useless. Tried getting feedback and all I ever get is "It looks fine" or no response all or people memeing. And when I try to help other people they just end up going off topic or leave.

It's just a social club for procrastinators at this point.

>>175221087
You're entitled to your opinion, but a timeline is how a precise, tight schmup is done. You need complete control on the level design. The equivalent to your pic related would be having a thousands of if(time == 23.4) {Spawn guy;} in a huge main function.

>>175221087
Given the quality of the game he is putting out though I am not entirely sure it matters if he isn't a programmer. In the end he is a gamedev and pretty much embodying the adage Just Like Make Game. Regardless of personal limitations. I'd buy it for sure and the way his code looks or how long it took him to set it all up wouldn't even enter my mind (and lets be honest, anyone else's)

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>>175220393
Those are for spawning the terrain in webm related (not the actual ceiling/floor, that's an object with a scrolling texture). There's spawners for stuff like the pillars in the back that run constantly.

And basically what >>175221510 said, doing what your sugesting would be uglier.

>>175221437
That's the problem with having names. No one wants to give honest feedback for fear that they will be seen as a dick.
And then there's the problem with being anonymous. No one wants to give honest feedback because they'd rather just be a dick.

People just suck in general. I think the threads are overall better for feedback though.

>>175221510
What if you wanted spawns that paused the level until they were beaten? Or maybe a 10 second time limit? Spawns that only happen in certain conditions? Difficulty settings? Spawns that produce less if there are too many lingering enemies on screen already, but have some enemies that appear no matter what?

>>175221731
>No one wants to give honest feedback for fear that they will be seen as a dick.
Or look like shit for giving feedback the person doesn't agree on.
Or just flat out ignored.

If someone asks for feedback and flat out ignores genuine thought I put into my response, then you can bet I'm never responding to their game again.

>>175221847
He already mentioned with the timelines he has conditional extra spawns based on how fast you kill/don't kill things. He also has bosses that 'pause' the level essentially until they are defeated then the timeline picks back up. It really isn't the limiting factor you are trying to make it out to be, anon.

>>175221437
>>175221731
I must've not been there, I would've ripped your game apart with a smile
that said, did you ask for feedback *on something*, or just feedback? because if you just ask people what they think of something most of them will give a simple answer

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Hey AGDG
Can some kind fellas help us gather info for our plot so we can have some authenticity.

https://pastebin.com/Qj4USrLF

>>175194768
>3D game
>needs to consist out of surfaces with 3 points
>need a 4D game for 4 point surfaces

>>175218134
That's a lot of handwork.
I'm trying to think in an automated system to make it easier to change later and can be reusable in the entire game. Dunno if the best choice, still can't make a shmup.

>>175223002
It's a bunch of questions about college?

>>175219726
>>175220271
>>175220360

omg
say, 5 enemies attack in a line. They spawn in the same place, with the same movement pattern, The only difference is when they spawn, 20 steps apart. You could make 5 identical events at moments 500, 520, 540, 560, and 580 the timeline.
But then you realize that these enemies are spawn a tad too late. You have to lovingly craft this perfect shmup experience right? so you have to shift the 5 moments in the timeline to 450, 470, 490, 510, and 530 the timeline, plus consolidate if they overlap with any other moments.
But now you realize that these enemies are spawning too close together. they need to be 30 steps apart. Now you have to go find each moment of that enemy spawning, and calculate the new moment they each belong in: 450, 480, 510, 540, 570.

or

When the time comes to create those enemies, you create a spawner object at moment 500. you tell it to create 5 enemies at 20 step intervals. As soon as its created, it creates an enemy. It runs an alarm with a spawn counter. As soon as the 5th enemy is created, it destroys itself.
Is it spawning too late? move the spawner creation event to 450. done.
Are the spawns too close together? change the spawn interval to 30. done.
You are wasting your time with managing the individual moments when you could be devving cool features or actually fine tuning your game.

tl;dr: Keep the timeline, you are just doing so much more work than you have to.
I don't think I've ever felt this level of autistic rage

>>175218976
>>175219242
>>175219468
>>175219726
>>175221510
Yeah, nah, that's absolutely fucking mental and no sane person would do that. You could easily create enemy patterns and pacing just as good, if not much better, with some algorithms for spawning enemies.

>>175223509
>>175223518
Refer to >>175221586

There is no reason for anyone to be upset or offended on either side of the fence. He is devving and he is making great looking progress. If he could do it better but would rather spend that time doing what he is doing then it is inconsequential really. Happy devving, everyone!

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Some bug was happening to people where the game would 10% of the time not clear a level when you got your puzzle cubes to their goals. I even tested it and out of 10 times I completed the same level over and over 1 time the level refused to get to winstate so my theory is that the game will fuck up sometimes if there is two of the same color puzzle cube that needs to be checked by a goal

my solution now is to have 4 primary colors then of puzzle cubes at most on any given level and just have 4 different colored goals that way there is only a single check for every color

>>175220360
It really shouldn't jank like that at all. A smoother jank isn't really the solution.

You gotta do something like take the normals(or however you're currently getting the angles) of the two(4? 8?) adjacent quads and interpolate between them to get your angle.

You should be rotating at a constant rate basically.

>>175223904
Why do you put checkboards on everything?

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Idea guy here:
A roguelike except instead of controlling 1 character you control a squad of 4, Fire Emblem style.

>>175223469
Maybe they're making a game about college

>>175224061
It's not fun playing games where you can lose everything and have to start over if they aren't fast.

>>175224307
I never said to make it slow.

>>175224376
Yes you did

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Rhino enemies now have a sight bound similar to the pigs so the player understands they are an enemy and which tiles will trigger them.

>>175223770
Its really a negligible increase of required skill. The consequence is significantly less progress.

cd projek red accepted my patent

>>175224061
I haven't played a lot of roguelikes but I know Bionic Deus does that.

>>175224551
If he grows frustrated with his rate of progress then it will be on him to reach for higher skill. Whether or not he laments that situation (or if it even happens at all) is left for the future.

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Hey guys can anyone help me remember the name of this dev? (or his tumblr page)

I haven't lurked this general in about a year, but he used to post these webms in mid 2015 / early 2016 it was really cool but I formatted my PC and forgot to save the bookmark...

>>175221437
>at this point.
kek

>>175225402
http://bn05.tumblr.com/post/155667145015/what-happened-to-sorcerobe-a-few-people-have

sorcerobe
he made it a side project now

>>175225402
Sorcerobe.

>>175225952
>>175225993

Thank you lads, shame sorcerobe is on hold don't really like the look of his new game

>>175225952
speaking of side projects, when the hell will charlotte's dream be resumed

you guys really need to stick to 1 damn project like its your wife

>>175226196
>shame sorcerobe is on hold
That's the first sign a project is about to die.

I can't tell you how many agdg games I've seen where the dev said they want to work on something else 'real quick', never to return to their main game.

>>175224307
>I don't think its fun therefore its not fun.

In EVE Online you can lose literally months/years worth of work in an instant and that's exactly what makes the game have its autistic following.

>>175227252
You were almost right but it's more that you can make someone else/a group of people lose their progress not that you can lose yours.

Is there a way to disable collision masks via code in GML?

I can't really find a simple answer.

>>175227329
Its both. The amount of players that actively seek to be anarchist edgelords that want peoples progress to burn is relatively small compared to the large populations in the game.

>goons
>wormhole jews
>PL
>Highsec Fags
>various other normie nullblocks

Most of them don't want to fuck with people and start shit that's even remotely risky, most of them would rather turn someone into a rent paying ally than actually wreck their shit. You only really get your shit wrecked if you piss people off and bring it upon yourself.

>>175227663
dont forget 2b2t the infamous minecraft server

>>175226198
>you guys really need to stick to 1 damn project like its your wife
>Have two projects I really want to work on
>Can't decide which to focus on
This is torture. Every time I work on one, I feel like I should be working on the other.

>>175228020
Can you not take elements from one project and merge it?

>>175228442
They're completely different genres.

>>175228482
Wrong attitude.

>>175228553
How so?

Why are the most vocal guys on the discord teh guys with the shittiest games?

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Got my combo system working. Right now it's based purely on button timing. As a test, attack 1 goes into attack 2 which goes into attack 1 for an infinite loop, but doing a delayed button press on attack 2 does the fancy samurai attack. I'm struggling to get the timing down here, and wondering if I should standardize timing for different weapons. Button presses for a hammer might be slower than a sword, and a sword might be slower than a dagger. But otherwise the timing would be the same across all attacks for that particular weapon.

>>175229076
Because they spend their time chatting on discord instead of jlmg.

>>175229076
Too busy shitting up the Discord to just like make game.

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>>175216710
>That 80s space anime aesthetic
Nice! Looks pretty damn fun too. I can't be sure but it looks like it has some pretty great pacing.

>>175229076
Don't have anything better to do than talk about memes/stupid shit instead of deving.

>>175210493
>webm unrelated

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having some fun with the old AI, gonna start some new ones tomorrow that can actually kill you.

>>175229076
>I'm not vocal on Discord
>therefore my game is not shitty
I'm relieved

>>175230338
>I'm not vocal on Discord
>Because my game is shitty and I'm too embarrassed/shy to post it there
One day I'm gonna make a game so good I can talk to other anons in the discord.

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shi

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Give me cool powers that a suit like this could give you

>>175230568
Homosexuality

>>175230306
>that slow drop kick
kek

>>175230568
Beekeeping

>>175230568
Speed, strength, stealth/camo, underwater breathing, excessive jump ability, maybe a short term boost from mini thrusters on the back, night vision, full tactical HUD in general, high level armor to soak damage, maybe parts can flake off like flak to confuse incoming seeking projectiles, etc etc

>>175229076
The discord is literally a permanent containment space for shitters

true agdg bros post in the thread ONLY

>>175231407
All of them.

>>175231407
The guy that keeps posting about discord

>>175231407
boku or shout.

>>175231407
anyone with an anime avatar

>>175230498
Can I have this? I'll give you 10% of the profits.

>>175231908
Shit who let Peter Molyneux in here

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>>175231407
Stop talking about stupid shit nobody gives a fuck about the discord or the people in it. This is entirely the problem with identify on the internet fucking stupid attention whore drama bullshit.

Are there any good music making programs out there besides FL studio? For free, anyway.

>>175230568
could recharge your phone

>>175232324
>For free, anyway.
Not a complete DAW, no. Theres plenty of free trackers, but trackers are shit.

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>>175230568
another
you get the idea

>confuse incoming seeking projectiles
good idea if i ever decide to implement guided missiles

>>175230568
/fa/

>>175232492
not /fa/

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>>175232492


>>175232595
my game will have a ton of models anyway

>>175232492

Makes civilians look like zombies/bad guys so you get a outer-limits meme theme in your game

>>175232492
>>175232649

are these yours?

>>175232789
Of course not. This is AGDG, the sprite capital. Great 3D artists are not allowed here.

>>175231908
Define "have"

>>175232789
no these are just models I found on artstation

>>175216710
>https://clyp.it/1a2ueedp
I'd buy this. Looks epic

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>>175232740
i dont get it

>>175230492
no I just don't talk much
I mean my game isn't great but it literally only has placeholder programmer art and no story and no finished music so it's not going to seem great regardless

>>175233278
>>175232649
why are you posting these as if your game is going to look anything like this

>>175232789
IDK where the first one came from
the second is one of the newer Spartan armors from Halo

>>175231407
Anyone who ignores me

>>175233332
who knows, im just an ideaguy working on a project and trying to find inspiration anywhere i can

hey kid, wanna see somethin gross?
map.structures.collideables[selected_enemy.home_structure].y

>>175233793
Whats wrong with that?

>>175233793
Your architecture is probably all messed up, senpai.

I have no idea what a good alternative would be. Maybe a messaging framework that everything puts things into and checks to see if there's anything relevant for it?

So your GUI Controller or whatever puts "gimme this enemy's home_structure" then when the update loop gets to that enemy, it checks the loop, puts it in there. Next frame, the GUI Controller gets it.

That's pretty janky still I guess. Still, more scalable and less coupled.

>OOP
>Design patterns
I hate it but if you don't do it the spaghetti rises up and strangles your game in it's sleep.

>>175224162
>>175223469
The riddle has been solved it is in fact a game about college

>>175234321
Oh actually you could just have a loop where the Messaging thing keeps updating until no object takes anything from it or puts anything on it. Then all messaging will happen in one frame.

You could have an infinite loop if you're a chungus, where getting a message causes an object to give a message which causes another object to give a message back, ad infinitum.

If the messages aren't just updating state and require processing (pathfinding or some other AI) you could spin it off on it's own thread. Though that's a whole other kettle of fish.

>>175234321
it's better than it was, every few commits I end up expanding or contracting some part of the various big structures that hold all the data
people have told me I should be using coroutines and callbacks but I don't see how it would be faster or more readable or even just not a pain in the ass to implement

>>175234387
Fun Fact the most common answer to the question
"If your program/major was a source of superpowers, what would those powers be?"

has been Crippling Depression.

>>175234280
WHY

>>175234606
>faster
The game won't run faster, but you might be able to dev faster.
>more readable
Partly a matter of what you're used to
>pain in the ass to implement
Refactoring is always a pain

The biggest problem with having highly-coupled architecture is that when you notice a bug related to Thing X you can't just look at X's code since everything else is doing stuff with X's guts.
If all functions to do with X get their data via X's callbacks (or some other manager object) then you only have to look in one or two places for bugs.

It seems trivially but if your project gets to the point where you have some code that you haven't looked at for months that a new feature suddenly reveals a bug in you'll be glad you did it.

>>175234872
BokuDev is a 100% exemplary gamedev, helpful, doesn't get pissy from constructive criticism (or even aggressive shitposting), he's just fucking great. Anyone hating on him is a bitter nodev faggot.

>>175235054
please stop false flagging devs.
cheers

>>175234990
well in most cases there's only ever one function, and usually one part of that function, that modifies any given piece of data, and I mostly know where everything is
if I do get lost I can search for the name of a piece of data, and if I forget what it's called-- and this is a seldom-used but non-trivial advantage of having monolithic but partitioned data structures-- I can look at where everything is declared and set up and find the element I'm looking for

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Working on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niIlwrdIPn0
just an early build of a project where I found this earthbound engine that's been a curse as it is a blessing but I plan on making more enemies/backgrounds/music etc

>>175235054
>Anyone hating on him is a bitter nodev faggot.
Did you not see his twitter?

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>start deving after a 2 year break
>really like it for the first week
>after that though
>any free time not spent deving I feel guilty
>any time I dev I get overcome with all I have to do
is there no escape from this hell

>Try and make a game
>It's shit
>Music sounds okay
>Try and specialize into just making music
>Actually the music is also shit I just have bad taste in music

Is there a game where I can play through my own suicide over and over? Doing it just once would be a waste

>>175230756
>The discord is literally a permanent containment space for shitters
You should have seen how sourcespammer reacted to the implication that he was a chatfag. Have never seen a bigger case of thou dost protest too much.

>>175232595
How's that patreon going?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFggx8_5L4

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I print out nice things you guys say about my game and post them up near my PC for motivation

>>175236741
I tell everyone their game looks good even if its shit so...

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Working on the bedroom

>>175236837
The cutest babby knight.

>>175230568
Camoflage in a junkyard

>>175236732
i should email my WTV owners but im waiting until i have a more meaty build of FWIS

>>175236406
Yeah, he seems like a cool guy.

Is it insane to think you want to make games on your own?

>>175236837
Power Stone 3: Lights out Knights out?

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>>175236984
Nah. He's gogem tier cringe.

>>175237113
youre a bernie voter we get it

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Toned down the details and gave the pads harder surfaces.
Almost done with this now, I think.

Thoughts?

>work extremely hard on your game to the point where you start to hate it

>>175237113
>>175237227
>they're on so many levels of irony that they confuse each other
anything less than unambiguous praise for dear leader is cringe </cringe>

>>175237113
Huh I'm not actually interested in your leftist butthurt, good luck winning the 2020 election though!

>>175237395
I think about how much I hate it and want to scrap it pretty much everytime I work on it now.

>>175237382
looks like an assault granny (male)

>>175237382
face is still rather ghastly

>>175237382
Where can I get my own hench dwarf gf?

>>175236797
Where's your game?

>>175237482
>>175237498
Can't have her be so beautiful you fap instead of playing the game ;^)

>>175237532
I'm afraid you'll have to sculpt her, like me

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>>175237227
>>175237462
>

>tfw thought of a better game than the one I'm making and have lost all motivation to continue with this one

>>175210642
Yes and yes

>>175238089
You won't know for sure until you make both.

>>175230568
You automatically become good at oral

>>175238401
because the engine I'm utilizing requires GM 1.4

>>175238089
You will never make a better game if you can't finish a single project

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>>175238401
Their documentation seems a little light.

>>175237113
God forbid a human being have a political opinion, after all he makes video games.

>>175238510
https://www.google.com/search?q=xna+documentation

>>175237382
tactical granny/10

I want to make an XCOM clone but instead of each unit given orders one by one, your turn is pre-planned in maybe 3 action events.

So you would assign your Sniper in Event 1 to take out the guard, event two to climb a ladder and event 3 to reposition

Meanwhile your Infantry runs to position in event 1, throws a flash in event 2 and shoots into the house in event 3

Once all the commands are set the round plays out, but obviously things can go wrong (shots missed, trapped doors etc.) and enemies could fire on your team advancing (unless flashed, distracted etc.)

I dunno I think it would be fun, obviously if I could use the xcom engine it would be much easier but i'm not sure it's possible to change enough

>>175236420
Make a dev schedule. Then you're not "skipping deving", You're just saving dev for its proper place in the day. Just, you know, actually follow that schedule. But no guilt. Guilt's a useless shit tier emotion. Turn it into something more valuable!

Break down your game into big tasks, then break down into subtasks. "Make a game" is hard. "Today, Create buttons for my title screen" is much more managable.

Sometimes, your perceptions are what's holding you back, so fix them, they're yours!

>>175238576
>he makes video games.
Does he?

Name a video game bokube has made.

give me an idea

>>175237113
Wow nice photoshop I just checked his twitter:
https://twitter.com/TheeWhiteReaper

That post isnt even there.

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>>175236984
>A cool guy that looks like this

>With political views like this
>>175237113


should honestly go trans and then kill himself.

>>175239548
A game where it turns out you're the bad guy and you have to kill yourself at the end to "win".

>>175239557
Yeah we all just imagined it.

Fuck off bokube.

>>175239168
I'm not a huge crpg/turn based tactics buff but this isn't exactly a novel concept in either genre. Have at it; if it's executed well then there's an audience for it. Frozen Synapse, for example, is essentially your concept pushed to the extreme, since it's all about having to preplan several actions in anticipation of multiple eventualities.

>>175239867
Tricked you into telling me a game I can download like the one I describe. Thanks loser.

>>175239557
if @TheeWhiteReaper wants to prove he isnt @TheeWhiteNationalist he will need to replace the white MC of bokube with a person of colors.

>>175239992
Tricked you into playing a good game, sucker bitch.

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Visual novel titlescreen mockup.

>>175240762
Nice BoI homage

>>175240762
looks like ripped from DotC

>>175239168
>>175239867
the major problem with this concept is psychological.
frozen synapse is played against humans, this same concept played against AI will inevitably be hated because either you make competent AI which they will think is cheating, unpredictable because of randomness, etc or the flipside complaints about the AI being stupid, too predictable, etc.
sees overwhelmingly like a no-win scenario for AI to be playing a prediction competition against a human.

first scenario complaints could possibly be solved by giving access to a detailed post-game rundown of every decision made by the AI and it's reasoning.

How do you design puzzles? I don't mean in-game puzzles like trying to figure out how to open a door in Zelda or something like how to use a new mechanic in a platformer to progress but just designing a puzzle in general.

>>175240809
Edmund's drawings are pretty childlike, makes sense.
>>175240897
DotC?

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>>175240897
>DotC
Wroooong

>>175229093
That looks really cool.
Reminds me of BOTW.

I like variation across weapons, helps give them a place in the world.
Plus a learning curve is fun, the sense of accomplishment once you understand it, and can use it more effectivly.

>>175241032
>I don't mean in-game puzzles
yeah you do. puzzles are just a configuration of a set of mechanics/rules/logic that creates a problem to solve.

>>175229093
I like way too much the fact that the sword leaves a dynamic trail behind it.

>>175241171
I wanted to specify that I meant puzzles in general rather than an in-game puzzle for a specific game.

>>175241082
Day of the Tentacle
>>175241095
FINE, HAVE IT YOUR WAY

>>175241543
"Tentacle" doesn't start with the letter "C"...

>>175241645
tentaCle.
Cmon this is grammar school stuff.

>>175241429
except theres no difference. a zelda or platformer puzzle is using the mechanics/rules of zelda or platformer to construct it's puzzle.

>>175241645
WOW, what the fuck.

Sorry man, i fucked up, i think i need some sleep.

>>175241767
alright then, I would like to know how to create a puzzle then

>>175241829
it's all there in the definition...
1. create mechanics/rules
2. create a configuration of those that creates a problem to be solved

>>175226432
>I can't tell you how many agdg games I've seen where the dev said they want to work on something else 'real quick', never to return to their main game.
RIP Gate

>>175241109
Breath of the Wild? I wouldn't say that game had much weapon variation, at least not control wise. I'm taking my inspiration here more from Devil May Cry, Dragon's Dogma, and Dark Souls. Devil May Cry's timing and stick direction based combat, Dragon's Dogma and it's special attacks, and hopefully Dark Soul's weighty combat and sorta stealing it's dodge system.

>>175241332
I actually put that in for testing purposes, funny enough. I wasn't quite hitting targets correctly, so I added the dynamic trail to see whether or not the blade was hitting, and it wasn't. Modified the hit detection, changed some of the ways things worked, and then it was working correctly. I'm going to keep it, but I'm also going to make the trail vanish more subtly.

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>>175241025
This is why people who are always complaining about the intelligence of AI in games like Civ. Sometimes there are valid arguments, but most of the time it's mostly "Why don't they just make it smarter?" Without realizing that making an AI really good at Civ isn't all that difficult, it would just be not fun to play against at all. Making a smart AND fun AI is really hard.

>>175223906
You're goddamn right. I realized that before you even posted this and I've been working on that since. I think it's much better now.

I really brushed the shit out of my high school trig. The system I implemented check out the speed I'm moving at and adjusts the smoothing so that the flats feel flat when you're going straight but you still have relatively smooth motion when you're spinning around. Now I just gotta make this work with height variation and I think I'll have most of the movement figured out.

>>175242783
Im talking about BOTWs attack combos.

>>175242789
*This is why I find annoying peopleWew, 3AM is hitting.

>>175242783
Make it fade off transparently, add some particles, baby you've got a stew going.

>>175218697
Isn't it ubiquitous that heroes are displayed on the right?

So combat is a card game? Be sure to insert hotkeys either way, using the mouse is beyond obnoxious.

>>175243219
Well, your guys are on the left in pokemon, so there's precedent I guess.

>>175236283
>curse
That's why you study it, then make your own.
>GMfags

>>175242906
Gonna be honest, I don't remember attack combos in that game what so ever. At least nothing complex beyond witch time, weapon throwing, or attack charging.

>>175242913
Fade off is definitely my current plan. Also planning on add blood particles as an indicator of damage output.

>>175215970
>>175215661
IF I EXTINGUISHED THAT TORCH WOULD YOU DIE?

>>175215661
Those blades are very high off the ground....

You could just crawl past em.

In regards to AI, how long until a company uses Bayesian Inference, Neural Networks etc. to "learn" how to play the game from actual human players?

I think it would be cool. If a player loses, this could be saved into a "bad strategy" neural network so the difficulty can be adjusted freely and easily until you meet you match.

It's a shame I only studied this area briefly at university, seems like neural networks is the way forward.

>>175238089
Finish it anyway faggot.

Even if you have to cut planned features to get it done you need to finish at least one game.

>>175243641
IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DARK

>>175215661
>exposed gears
>find something to break the gears
>avoid them easily that way too

>>175243990
Never. The purpose of the game AI is not to win over the player, it is to lose to player elegantly.

>>175244175
Yeah read my post again moron and tell me where I said the purpose was AI was to win

>>175244249
Oh, sorry, I'm not quite awake yet.

>>175243990
It's already being done with Starcraft 2

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Is this readable? I think I'm going to have to redo it.

>>175244882
Depends how big it is on the screen, if its very small might be a bit difficult but otherwise looks fine imo

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checking in

>>175244157
Clever anon....

Actually gonna take that over

>>175230306
Please, share the project, anon (just the basic movement).
I want to learn how to do this.

>>175230568
it gave me the impression of stealth the most.
Or it can also be a configurable armor, the pieces assemble itself using the hexagonal pieces to form tools weapons, etc.

>>175246184
i should have used a more generic image as most people keep commenting on the bee shapes

i just wanted to post some sort of cyber armor

>>175246274
yeah, the bee hexagonal shapes is going to influence the impression quite a lot, especially if there's so many little pieces of it.

>>175220271
this is fucking gorgeous, anon

>>175220271
Your game seems pretty damn neat in general... but is it just me, or do the player bullets fall real damn flat?

A lot of games go with a bright flat color and seems to work well. No need to copy them, but... something seems off in any case.

Also make explosion variants. It's real jarring seeing the same explosion repeated

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>>175220271
something like this that isn't this

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Working on making all enemies blown away by the magical touch of the puzzle cubes. Similar to the pigs.

>>175237382
Are you for real? Your sculpts are hot garbage, I wish you'd stick to lowpoly

>>175247947
>magical touch of the murder cubes

>>175237382
>>175248342
Gonna have to agree with this

>>175237382
>Thoughts?
Learn anatomy and stop sculpting ugly blob monsters.

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Just a friendly reminder that if anyone here is making a walking sim horror game where you can't defend yourself, you should delete all exciting files and kill yourself.

>>175248416
>you should delete all exciting files
my files are all boring

>>175248416
what if it's pointless to defend yourself anyway since the monsters are so scary and vile or even aetheral

>delete all exciting files
Even pron files on my comp are boring, where do I find exciting ones?

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>>175247947

>>175248416
>delete all exciting files
>definitely not a porn folder [do not open].jpg.gif.webm.txt

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>>175248416
whole point of horror is for protag/s to be unable to effectively defend themselves from the threat

just tell people to stop making horror altogether because you don't like it, you obnoxious weeb

>>175248416
>delete all exciting files and kill yourself
I got the ordering wrong, what now? Help

now i want to work on character select, i got some typing to do, and a bunch to draw. blah it's 6 am

>>175249373
Thats not true. RE gives you the option to defend yourself and it still manages to be scary.

i though undying was pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7fBg7tmHM

>>175249373
This has always sounded good on paper, but in practice there's a lot more going on game design wise to make effective horror games. Which is why games like REmake and Silent Hill 3 are still much scarier than games like Amnesia.

>>175249541
>>175249693
Outlast and Alien Isolation did horror right

>>175249691
alice had some cool stuff too. but what is a clive barker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxid6jQQN8

>>175249541
>RE
>scary
No not really.

For me it depends how effective you are at defending yourself. A tiny pistol? Sure. Having the character geared up with overpowered weapons to the point they don't feel vulnerable? No.

>REmake and Silent Hill 3 are still much scarier than games like Amnesia
Pure preference. I prefer atmospheric/unsettling horror rather than "im a hideous monster but I still die as easily as a human".

SOMA had all the right elements for me.

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>>175247007
Thanks anon!

>>175247138
>>175247595
The bullets being slightly bland for it to not distract the player or cause the eyes to wander too much during gameplay. The enemy bullets are far more important, and are colored as such.

I'll experiment with it a bit tomarrow though Bug hunting is super tedious and I need sleep dev.

>>175249893
Maybe not the earlier RE titles, but the latest one had a very scary atmosphere, it had a few jump-scares, but they didn't feel cheap at all.

Correct me if i'm wrong. I might be writing with fanboy eyes at this point.

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3 books about deving for Unity. Shaders, AI(steering, navigation, behaviour), optimization. Can most likely be applied for other engines aswell.

https://pastebin.com/QZQNaSTF

>>175249893
>>175250060
And yes, i agree. I'm thinking more of a gun with weak aim and limited ammo.

>>175250079
Thanks anon

>>175250079
>shaders
Cool, checking this out.

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>>175250079
> that ai book
Thanks

>>175209765
Anyone here see this thread?
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/375273096/
Also, is anyone in /agdg/ working on a game without violence or conflict?

>>175249893
>>175249870
No. The problem with modern horror games is that, by stripping away options to defend yourself, they actually increase a player's confidence when they encounter an enemy. If all you can do if run away, then the player knows running away will work. In Amnesia, the game always presented monster encounters with an obvious solution. IE, ones where you hide in a closet, run away, or sneak around.

Older horror games gave you options to erode your confidence. It was simultaneously more physiological in how it gave the player responsibility and decisions with potentially long lasting effects to worry about, and more visceral in how it tapped into you're fight or flight response. It was a much more mature horror than just the spooky atmosphere and jump scares you get today.

>>175250768
>spreading a dumb "i-if you don't get baited at least dump porn!" shitpost to /agdg/
this thread's shit supply is so thick we don't need to import any more of it from elsewhere

>>175250768
>without conflict
That's an amazing way to make completely uncompelling media.

>>175250768
>Game without conflict
I think the only "games" that could even fall under that category are walking simluators, which are less "game" and more "interactive media". Most games (even shitty mobile ones) have some form of conflict.

>>175250830
>If all you can do if run away, then the player knows running away will work
If all you can do is shoot and kill them, then the player knows shooting and killing them will work and thus feel like confident/bad ass.

same logic

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fixing the unity text stuff to scale with the screen instead of staying the constant size

>>175251195
So if you have an ultrawide will it just be gigantic text?

>>175250973
I agree completely. Which is why the good horror games of that era had players managing their resources and picking their battles. And why games like RE2, which is still a fun game, dropped the ball in the horror department.

And I definitely don't think every horror game needs self defense. But if you remove that element without adding some other element(s) to give your horror depth, then all you'll end up with is a spooky walking simulator.