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>Plans for Combat System Changes (the great rework coming early summer according to IMC)
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=920
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=934
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFGAS_Y6Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhJP5wJPa0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF-h4Qo3RTM

>Combat rework spreadsheet (informations from kTest)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w96wEplRalplgC4f0TTyiYqXNZfIVZopUbTNFUX_be8/edit#gid=0

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=946

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=914
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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first for live game
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Should I sell all my shards for 200k before rebalance because reroll price will be 150k so the prices will plummet as well? Not to mention Trans isn't going to be that important, or at least as important as anvils and silver.
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So I can make one of the lolo 5F items finally. Which item (cloth, leather, plate) is the most rebalance proof and why?
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>>175205381
Why?
Price will not significantly drop.
Transc will be still very strong or even better.

>isn't going to be that important
Nobody cares if you need it or if its "important". You dont need it now for most content. But people want everything to get stronger.. even if its 100% unnecessary.

But sure.. go ahead and sell them all.
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>>175205381
Reroll price will be 250k, so why does it matter if you sell for 200k now?
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>>175205785

Nigga are you listening to what he said?

Reroll price will drop to 150k, which means shard prices will drop to 150k too (or less) because otherwise it'll just be cheaper for people to reroll than buy them.

Selling at 200k right now is probably the smart thing to do, he could sell them all at 200k, then when the price drops to 150k or less rebuy them all and still be making 50k profit per shard.

This is basically short selling. It can be risky but if the price of shards does drop he stands to make a lot of profit from it.
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>>175205116
>not CnL

nice.
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>>175205381
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>>175206206
There's actually no real reason that shards should cost less to buy than to reroll. I mean you can only reroll twice so if you want to get shards quickly, you should have to pay more than reroll price. But as it is, it's stupid expensive to reroll and time consuming to run it on dozens of alts. If people weren't so undercut happy or prices were like <100k or something, it would probably cost more to but than reroll.
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>>175206937

People literally only buy shards because they are cheaper than rerolls. If rerolls were cheaper, people would just use their 10 alts to stockpile 30 cubes a day, and open them all when they need them. Or they would open some cubes, sell them, then use the profit to open and reroll some cubes with the profit they made.

You get free shards every single day you play, this is the reason they're sold for cheaper than rerolling.
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>>175181198
>>175188447
and with all INT gear (non ET) it will be about 2.2k
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>>175206825
Futureproof is recruiting too.

Come home white man.
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>>175206937

Price of a reroll is 300k right?

You get 3 shards for 600k if you reroll (remember, the first is free).
If you buy 3 shards off the market place it costs you 600k (assuming they sell for 200k each which is about average).
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>>175207278
You get 1 shard for 0 silver and then you can buy 2 more from the market for 400k total and end up with 3. No one actually rerolls.
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Is cute recruiting?
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>>175207154
For you guys to cry about whales all day you sure have no faith in them actually buying up things to get them quickly.
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>>175207376

Sure, that is the most cost efficient way of doing it. But we were comparing the cost of rerolling vs the cost of buying shards.

The average price of a shard if you reroll it is 200k, which is why the selling price of them is also 200k.
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>>175207276
I'm going to join Futureproof and black them up!
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>>175206206
>Nigga are you listening to what he said?
>Reroll price will drop to 150k,
Post prove
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>>175208701
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> tfw HL3 Cor1 Dop2 at LVL 275 with no motivation to level

Whats the best option to hit the rank 8 advancement ASAP. I'm tired of taking ages killing shit in quests because I had the bright idea to take Cor for minigames, when in the end I just get one shot by a rmt'ing Warlock running at me.
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>>175209206
fucking fatsheyra
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>>175206206
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I miss you CuteNotLewd
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>>175209206
Get a party or explore all the maps you haven't and use the cards.
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so, after the patch, what will be the best farming build? the equivalent of pyro2 link2 thaum2 sage? elementalist with thaum2? swelling things without JP + HK looks pretty bad
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>>175210679
wiz 2 link 2 thau 3 enchanter
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>>175210756
I meant for farming solo, I don't want to rely on other people to farm
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>>175210756
>wiz 2
but why
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Anyone got a red ribbon boater yet?
I don't want to have to go out and try farming it like a mook.
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>>175210679
>swelling things without JP + HK looks pretty bad
Its not that bad, Group them up and sleepLv5 if you cant take many hits

Thaum2 is a lot weaker than C3.
And not sure if Elem (with low/cheap gear, because farmer char) can kill swollen mobs fast/well.

Wait a few weeks and see what koreans will find out overtime.
and IMC is not done balancing yet.
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>>175210887
>>175210961
In case you missed it, you cast lethargy and use lv 10 earthquake with massive matk. Multihits are dead with links, this is what people are doing now for solo (with shrink body if needed for an extra new multiplier) and while in party you don't have any non-gimmicky offensive skills, you can still give them 2.5k matk and element damage.
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>>175211227
That is not killing swollen 290 mobs solo
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>>175210756
wiz 2 link 2 thau 2 ff 2 > this
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>>175209315
Who?

>>175209694
What place to grind with a party? Maybe I'll just keep solo questing up to early R8 maps, but the amount of JExp needed is ridiculous.
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>>175211207
No. It's borderline impossible, yellow kepa have a spawn radius of 9999 which means they can spawn literally anywhere on the map. It's not like Infros where you can just set up your Spirits and tab in to recast, it's just bullshit and you'd have to kill like 15k per day.
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>>175212556
It's not impossible since dpk doesn't exist in the old way.
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best ktest sorc build?
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>>175212360
I meant get a party to help you do the quests faster.
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>fencer is ded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPcSql7I0g

Uhmmm, who could've guessed that misinfo agents were wrong AGAIN?
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>>175213385
>open video
>siaulai
>close video
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where i up lvl 108
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziAdlo6LnKk

>dat limacon
Holy shit.
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>tfw I'm leveling a SPR Priest3 now just so I can feel the full force of the buff on my cock soon.
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>>175213832
go back to brasil
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anyone want to do boys/premmy?
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Is Aukuras on Ktos percentage based or a flat HP regen boost? I could've sworn it had percent boost at some point but running through translate it may have been removed?
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>all these cleric tears
please tell me how bad it is again and how you deserve to be nr. 1 dps as a healer again
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Hello /tosg/, help me decide my Rank 6 class for my Cannoneer c2.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314189.1a23354a5161.152545.14213545.152535
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>>175215098
appraiser
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>>175215098
Take falconeer for cannon 2. It's almost necessary.
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Did this REALLY deserve a 'scrnshot'?
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>>175215420
go back to being afk you worthless shit blogposter
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>>175215420
Well ofc, cause TheShinigami said so.
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how much matk do I need on a pyro2>thauma2>linker2 to farm yellow caro shit? these things take too much sp on my main to farm
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>>175215420
FUCKING COMEDY GOLD
YOU GET IT?
LAME SHOP
FUCKING LAME SHOP
HAHAHAHA
SO LAME
XDXDXDXDXDXD
I hate myself for still playing this game
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>>175215209

Clementina, Clementina, Clementina de Jesus. Não sei se tu me amas, pra que tu me seduz?
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http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=697
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>quest: get 8 drops from a monster
>4 monsters total in the area
What if the game wasn't dead and there were multiple players trying to do that shit?
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>>175216608
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>>175215209

T-that quest is boring!

>>175215396
Even after the aoe ratio buffs?
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>>175216850
>spoonfeeding shitposters
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>>175201563
>>175201612
>>175202142
Lots of people did do GBL after they removed the free TP. Why are you trying to lie about that? Crimson tried to play after the removal and only quit the game after all the crashes made it impossible to have real matches anymore. Lotus and CNL kept playing actively. Only Alpha bailed out. Impetus, Ravens, and a couple Orsha guilds were actively queueing.

GBL died off because it was bugged to the point of literal unplayability. You'd have 3 guilds queued and no game would start, and if one did, it would be a crashfest.
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>>175216840
It'd be easier because they'd spread out and kill the monsters grouped up in other areas so they'd spawn back where you were. Also you'd be partied up so that counts would count for everyone, although IMC needs to increase the range on that.
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>when even cockroaches knows you and say you hi

lol
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>>175217446
Speak English.
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>>175217650
shut up insect
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>>175217446
>>175214003
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I really want to ask IMC why they made hunting grounds' entrances random blue orbs in random places instead of putting them on those various dead ends that look like they lead to dungeons.
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>>175217870
fuck you faggot CnL 4life
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>>175218240
They probably had something else planned for those already which won't get added until years from now.
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Hey there Anons, would you be so kind to help a newfag build a neat cleric build? Anything is fair game as long as it's not garbage, I don't trust myself and my little knowledge to not fuck it up by crafting it myself.
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>>175218539
Perhaps. Although them being blue orbs instead of a signpost or a portal like they use for Demon Prison/DP2 or something is still strange.
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I hate this cunt
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>>175219121
Why do you hate some shitty no-name boss?
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>>175219121

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111.5f

never had any problem with him
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dude
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>>175219521
>no army of corsair3s farming rexi yet
Whats Klaipedia doing
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>>175219521
Is there something I don't know about this card?
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>>175219521

why they want a rex card

husbando erp?
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>>175219725
Supposedly a good sorc card
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>>175219768
retard
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What the hell is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoPjTs4jjU
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>>175219768
>>175219725
I have a feeling one of its riding abilities drain SP.
Probably a top tier sorc card if true.
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>>175220170
Energy bolt does like 350% damage and has no cast time. Does 120% bonus damage against sleeping targets or something like that.
It's a good filler after the rework, nothing new.
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>>175220170
Massive MATK boost + Instant EB + Sleep Attribute?

I like it, hopefully more combos like this pop up.
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>>175220170
>What the hell is this?
Its:
>Strong Weapon
>Full INT
>INT gear
>High or Maxed Attributes
>Strong Buff class
>not even Swollen Mobs
and
>>175220609
>120% bonus damage against sleeping targets
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>>175220170
Thanks for the channel, seeing him try all these builds is REALLY exciting
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>>175221451
hes silly tho

>at the begin, trying to show off
>uses left arm first instead of brain
>uses right arm but it does nothing with a staff
and could do even more dmg with Shrink
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>>175219806
Rexi being a good card I'm pretty sure is just something people really want to be true. His basic attack is pretty slow and he has his quest boss abilities. I'm not sure when they did the ability update but in this one it looks like he has a really spammable AoE nuke though, maybe he has a niche as a good summon for if you want to ride a lot and don't have Necro since his regular attack is 2 hits and strike type.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCVU6HzYwmg
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>>175213987
post build
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>>175223541

>strike

there's lethargy and freeze for this so...
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>yellow caro? 300k health?
>no sweat, lets try this farming
>300 kills later
>oh buff running out already?
>go back to town
>channel was 1/100
>only 1 other channel had 2/100
>ok repairs done
>head back
>someone is on my channel
>the other channel that was 2/100 is now 1/100
>the faggot is trying to snipe my farm
>run around trying to find the cunt
>can't

>spend then next 2 hours realizing just how fucking shitty this mobs spawn area is and why this material costs 2m a piece
yeah, you know what, I think I'll just sell this recipe and make the purple one
this ain't worth it, especially without a thauma character

this wouldn't be so bad if the fucking mobs weren't so scattered all around the map and hidden in bushes. without rader i'd miss like half of these fuckers and worse yet the mobs can go into areas you can't go into and die there, leaving their loot unreachable
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>>175225746
oh yeah got one after a few hours of farming at 800 fucking kills flat
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>>175225746
Dpk stealing subhumans are the fucking worst. Is there some kind of add on that lets you track kills in entirely different zones? The way people sometimes just seem to show up can be suspicious sometimes.
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>Drops are % based and personal now
>People still complain about others farming on "their" map in an MMO
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>>175226059
Pretty sure drops are still channel based.
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>>175226390
Whether it's channel or personal or personal until you switch channel, it's still % based and people cannot ``snipe'' your drop.
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>>175226621
There is still a DPK, it is just soft. First kill 1/4000, 2nd 1/3999, etc. If someone gets the drop it fucks you over since the chance resets.
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>>175226621
Of course they can. Say a DPK of that item is 800 or so. You start and you look at all channels and notice they are empty. 400 kills in you notice oh, one channel got a dude in it.

You get your drop at 800, then you keep looking at the other channel. It goes empty? You jump on that channel and continue where that guy left off. Snipe his drop and then go back to your channel.

You can actually snipe drops in this game. DPK is a retarded system that even promotes it.
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>>175227081
You can still get it on the next kill and then on the kill after that.
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>>175227323
You can also win the lottery. But most likely that will never happen.
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>>175227081
What you just described is the opposite of DPK. DPK means it can't drop at all until the value is reached.
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>>175227939
The opposite of DPK would be pure RNG, which this system is not. We can play semantics all day the files still refer to it as DPK and it's still extremely weighted to be treat it like true RNG.
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>>175227645
If you play the same number every time but then someone comes and plays the number you do, while you forget to that time, and wins, they did not snipe your lotto.

>>175228104
It's better than RNG because the odds increase all the time. If it was a straight 1/whatever, you'd probably quit entirely after not getting a drop for days.
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>>175228104
This system is pure RNG. It's possible to get an item from the first kill. The files aren't meant to be public, they didn't change their file naming when they changed the system, and what makes you think their use of DPK is the same as ours when none of the devs speak English?
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>>175228352
A system that increses your odds of finding an item to 100% after each kill is not pure RNG.
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HELP
I'm sort of new and can't decide on a class
played a dievdirbys to 110 back during launch but my friends and I stopped playing because BUG GAME. I wanna take advantage of this event but I can't decide on what to play.

Sell me on your builds? What's fun? Are there any good summoner-type builds?

thank you...
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>>175228540
It doesn't increase the odds to 100% after each kill. It gradually increases them over the course of many kills. If it went to 100% after each kill, you'd get a drop from every second kill.

Are you saying a lottery isn't purely random because there's a finite number of tickets?
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Help, /tosg/, what's the best way to convert TP indo money and toss into another account?

I'm playing on a new account because of the event but a friend of mine has a spare old account with 700~TP.

Can we finally trade tokens? Or selling tokens and buying costumes to TRADE first and then resell on my account would be a better idea?
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>>175228921
>Are there any good summoner-type builds?
No.
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>>175228921
Summoner builds for PvE?
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>>175229185
O-oh, okay.

>>175229228
Ye. I just want to get back into the game playing something not shit and learn everything I need to learn before the big reworks. I'm not 100% deadset on a summoner build.
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>>175228964
You have a really hard time reading and understanding English. Are you a seamonkey or just a monkey?
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>>175229228
How about some Summoner for PvP? :^)
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>>175229546
The irony. You're a BR, aren't you?
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>>175230536
Hunter
because pet class and summoner class is interchangeable here
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>blew most of my money on cardboard cubes
>no orange recipe
>tons of white recipes
I want to shove that superior musket recipe down IMC's throat
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>>175230851
>because pet class and summoner class is interchangeable here
The fuck? Summons are skill base with duration and well fucking summoned. Pets are pets. Who told you that shit?
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>>175231189
Who fucking cares the guy is asking for a build

Highly doubtful if a returning player cares whether his companion is a cock demon or some sort of bird dog
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>>175231284
>Who fucking cares
I do because fucking summons and pets are different fucktard. You don't get 'army' of pets.
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>>175226621
>kill 800 mobs
>drop chance rised to 90%
>random fag walks in
>kill mob and loot it
>you are on the other side of the map and don't know this
>now for you the drop rate is back to 0,01% :^)
Yes, people can steal your drop
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>>175231396
So, you're an autist.

Proceed.
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>>175231616
yes
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I'm going to make another homuculus and pretend renewal will make them good!
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>>175228921
linker 2 sorcerer 3 sage
clone bats with micro dimension > FUCKHUGE army of exploding bats > link mobs > everything dies
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>>175233009
>FUCKHUGE army of exploding bats
That could actually be kinda good. Bats can hit hard.. each.
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>>175231543
Still better than having constant 0.01 imo
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>>175233009
This got me wondering. When rank 9 arrives. Can you duplicate necromancer summons?
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>>175234095
You would probably see necro 2 sages if it were possible to replicate skeletons.
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Can't wait for rank 12
I want to be a sorc3necro3ff3
A perma flying Dracula with an army of undeads beneath my feet and bats flying with me
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>>175234439
>Wiz 3
>Pyro 3
>Cryo 3
>Ele 3
Finally a master of elements.
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Looking to start playing this. What's a good class that's also really afk?
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>>175234095
>>175234380
Nope.
They removed that a few days after Rank8 was added in kTOS.
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>>175234648
Bummer.
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>>175234636
archer3wugufletcher3
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>>175234095

dirt pole only
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>>175234850
2 fat necro cocks hell yeah
necrosage here I come
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>>175234712
Cheers, anything I need to know about that class in particular?
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>>175234907
more like 3 or 4 smelly black dicks
just party with any chronoSage today and let em clone your benis
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>QS3 is shi-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyiSz7B3SUs
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>The marble games are still broken.
Why can't they fix anything? My maps still blank out too.
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>>175235124
Holy shit
thats without a didel either

What about full dex Archer3QS3Musketeer2
We machineguns now
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>>175234907
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>>175235257
>>175235124
>that superior korean ping to superior korean
server
hmm looks fun
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>>175235257

That's my build at the moment on itos, using a stage8 315's doing 40k per hit. Can't wait to try it out when the changes to dex arrive.
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>>175235146
Are you sure you don't just suck because last time I did them they worked fine which was like 2 days ago.
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>>175236187
They just disappear when they move over the red stuff. Though I was doing the one in elgos.
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>>175236924
The marble needs to stop at the red stuff.
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>>175238549
this thread

and your sexual life
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>>175235072
This would be a great plot for a hentai
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>>175238549
>running out of SP
>on this game

Yeah, right.
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>>175231616
> can't argue
> call them an autist

also summoner summon shit and are not reliant on single companion.
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Is a bad idea investing on a accuracy gloves for minigame right now?
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Fencer pve, dex or str?
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what happened to CnL?
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>>175235124
> rangercucks on suicidewatch
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>>175239332

full dex. you need to 3 for epee garde to work
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>>175239196
>fails to see a clear sperg-out over definitions

Also, speak properly you third-worlder
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>>175239340
They aren't really a tosg guild anymore in a lot of peoples' opinions.
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>>175239340
>>175239560
and dont care to be in OP or not.
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>>175239474
I guess SR/Falc/Cata/Lancer are summoners too since they use pets.
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>>175239674
Pet class, summoner class

Whatever

They are all shite builds, abo
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>>175240270
>>175239196
>>175214003
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>>175239340
They asked to be removed from the OP and closed the doors to any anon unles solmiki ready
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>>175240453
missinfo

>look at that random Anonymous post
yes, missinfo
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What happened to Kat****g?
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>>175240379
pUTang ina
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>>175240562
That was Nazmagica'w
Ill cnlgger
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What happened to CoffeeHouse?
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>>175239367
Why would they be?
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>>175241278
sure sure, keep believing each single post on the \tosg\
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>>175241503
> cds everywhere
> nerfed clerics still outs dps you
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>>175241710
Wait, you mean an entire cleric build outdamages a single archer class circle?
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>>175241835
Yeah, it'd be a real shame if there weren't 7 more.
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If I want to have fun should I try this game?
Is it super dead or just dead dead?
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Does anybody know why Catacomb mission lists Catacomb Gravegolem as a monster? I ran it a couple times and didn't see a single one.
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What's the fastest way to farm Lapasape mushrooms? I've been killing Lapasape mages at Knidos jungle, is there a better spot?

Also my friend told me they're removing the ability for it to proc deeds sometime, is that true?
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So why does my game lag out for a few seconds whenever I use Snipe? Is this a "feature"?
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>>175242113
>If I want to have fun should I try this game?
If you want to have fun, you should probably just play monhun or something.

>Is it super dead or just dead dead?
300~ players on average on each server unless you're a BR or a pinoy
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>>175209483
>>175240562
>>175241618
>cnl acted like shitters and got themselves removed from the tosg
>every thread they not so subtly mention themselves at attempts for attention in order to get added back
Sad!
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>>175220170
Do you absolutely have to take thaum in any wizard build now?
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Lotus needs to be put in the OP desu senpaitachi
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So why are stat resets 990 tp again
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Chaser spear recipe farming: can I just logout in the spot and try again every 24h? So I don't need to farm the thief again and again...?
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>>175242113
Depends on server
SEA SA alive
Klaipeda life support
EU very dead
Orsha sad ded
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Meta archer build for bossing or pve atm? preparing for the combat update : D
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>>175237507
No shit. It disappears instead of the red stuff exploding.
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>wizard or cleric top damage every dungeon run
>dedicated damage archers/swordies with no healing always bottom of the barrel
I dont want to play wiz/cleric what do
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>>175238812
I'm a krivis3, cleric2, priest. Fuck, where's my SP
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An undisclosed action has been taken
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>>175205381
>reroll price will be 150k
?????
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/642719
>Open Price
>300 000
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>>175250150
archer2 ranger1 scout fletcher3 mergen
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>>175253748
>mergen
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>>175253748
dex or str?
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>>175255217
pure dex
don't get mergen, get the only smart option before update
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>>175255361
why do you think I should pick hakka instead of mergen
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>>175252179
Only in early sungeons is where you will be out dpsed by magic class. Otherwise go play a fencer or wugushi if you want to be a dungeon killer
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225-230, where can you level? stuff in Alameth takes like 20secs to kill
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>>175259024
Get a party for Alemeth, stuff may take a while to kill, but XP is great
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>>175259463
I can't find a party, is there any alternative?
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>>175259530
There isn't, find one
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>>175259701
Yes sir
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Dead thread
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>>175261221
I just want the update, the waiting is awful and nerfed pyrolinkerthaum+necro not being able to afk farm is really all I want right now.
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>>175261298
Same, haven't played for half a year, waiting for the combat patch to start off fresh. Satisfying my RPG needs while playing Diablo 2 in the meantime
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>>175261298
second this, the general can go to hell.
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>>175205116
Klaipeda
join Futureproof
PM ApplyAFineHorse3 for invite
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>>175246958
>>cnl acted like shitters and got themselves removed from the tosg
when did they do that though?
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>>175261672
nobody cares about your shitty meme guild
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>>175261298
>I only want others to have it worse
lol what a fucking crab
enjoy never getting anything done in life
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>>175261802
idk....like always?
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>go to fedi for aspersion buffs
>only pardoner is a cnl nigger
>refuse to buy aspersion
>get two shot by poata
>day ruined
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>>175261947
Come home white man
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>>175261923
?
dunno what you mean, when i stopped playing around ~2 months everyone seemed to be in good terms and now that i came back they just aren't in the OP anymore
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>>175262120
They are just a tryhard public guild now with a few original tosg memebers
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>>175262120
DUDE
TRYHARD
IN A DEAD GAME
LMAO
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why do you guys bully healmage so much, she did nothing wrong
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>>175261298
LinkerthaumaFF is new and better farmer
Atleast it can't solo farm like a God and farm ET at same time though
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>>175261815
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>>175262120
Most of the anons got replaced by Crimson and alike
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>>175262403
Yeah that's why it doesn't bug me, that's a hyper specialized build for farming groups of mobs not a build that is barely different from the end all be all build that makes a lot of builds pointless.
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???
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>every cleric whale quitting the game
Good.
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>>175263281
Why would they quit tho?
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>>175263326
Because cleric damage got raped
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>>175261672
honestly, I'm curious, how many people are there online right now?
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>>175263421
1
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>>175263405
The only relevant cleric damage that is PD2 got buffed though
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>>175263529
same
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Did it!!
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>>175263610
is that the appraiser quest? how hard/time consuming is it in comparison with the miko quest?
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>>175261221
There was little point to play before and filling the adventure journal was the only thing that kept me motivated. Since it's going to be deleted, there's not even a point in finishing quests I hadn't done yet. They need to release R9 already so I can blow all my cards and be at R10 in a day.
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>>175263694
Nah, friend, this is for Shinobi.

Different flower and such.
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>>175263694
Looks like the ninja quest
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>>175263529
>PD2 got buffed
No it didn't.
Don't forget that new the log formula cuts damage.
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>>175264140
uhm all the ktos videos i'm seeing don't agree with you
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>>175264327
You mean the ones from that whale Bokor3PD2 that is not quitting because his damage is shit?
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>>175262403
can you tell me more about that build? I'm interested in making a build purely dedicated to farming after the changes, what's good about FF? which skills do you pick? are the cooldowns good enough so I don't have to wait between each group kill?
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>login
>bored
>"guess I could dailies?"
>end up idling in town while browsing net
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>>175264539
Link knot swell kudela murbish attack
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>>175264807
>knot swell
h-hot
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>>175264807
You forgot curse

This build is only efficient while Kurdaicha has 0 cooldown bug
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>>175265617
what's that bug? is it fixed in ktos?
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>>175265761
The bug is that you can use kardaicha without cooldown, even though the tooltip has it at 30 sec cooldown or so
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>>175264501
Use knife attacks skills 0 points in levitation and blood curse, you can't bone stab while flying and blood curse would only kill yourself solo.
Get wiz2 because you don't want to be interupted when sucking dry demons and beasts, if you manage to get the insuarta gloves from 260 even better for sucking plants and mutants too.
Leftover points in the spooky walking skill to curse up enemies, cursed mobs takes extra damage from Kudela, ignore the bone turret thing too, it consume your link hit count and nothing else and you want them all for your knife
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=951
I don't think anyone posted this yet?
Lots of interesting stuff, including the new crit chance formula.

Forget ever getting above 60% crits now.
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>>175265617
Blood Curse is terrible to farm, not cursed linked stabbed enemy get one shot already and you don't have to heal up or walk back where you died everytime
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>>175264675
that's called comfy
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>>175266110
Retard, I'm talking obviously about curse from kurdaicha which doubles kudela slash damage

And no, you won't oneshot swollen 290 monsters without cursing them beforehand
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>>175265617
>suicide bomb lmao
>in a farming purpose build
No
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>>175266026
beating the musketeer dead horse until it's glue
thanks imc
good thing we can go minigun build instead
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>low iq CnL thirdies posting again
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>>175266567
Uh, Musketeer sounds way stronger than before, having single hits nuke skills is actually viable now since damage cap is way higher.
>>
>believing tosg shitposters
DudeNoCmon
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>>175265946
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#21177aagg.1a21345a65.11243a4a55.1a3a4565.2a4a5565
like this?
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Whisper Pokart if you wanna join us.
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>>175266667
Pretty much any swordie seems stronger than any archer with this patch.

Every single archer video in sialiau has them struggling to kill the bosses even if they are whales with the 315 orange bow. Meanwhile, even dragoons or lancers or murmillos delete the bosses in seconds and let's not even talk about doppels.
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>>175266026

what did they meme by this?
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>>175268069
archer will be the new pvp class
with the dex changes you will autoattack so fast and hard that missile hole will be gone within seconds and you'll be animationlocked by any nigger qs3 rightclicking you
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>>175266026

>STR/SPR Fencer will be the new meta

What a time to be alive.
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>>175268217
Pvp is about cc, utility and survivability before damage. Archers have almost none.

Any class with good CC can kill anyone regardless of their defensive stats now, so cc wizards and corsair murmillos are pretty much insta win.
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How hard is it to farm superior Kovos recipes? Someone's selling clean Shade Greaves for 17m and I don't know if it's worth it.
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>>175268069
>Pretty much any swordie seems stronger than any archer with this patch.
Well I mean, that was the case since r8.
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>>175268621
>Recipe - Superior Kovos Greaves (333 ~ 400 DPK)
>from a mob with shit density
Eh, it's pretty bad.
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>>175267915
post butt and I might join
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>>175268621
Don't bother trying to farm it, it legitimately takes hours to get one.
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Post patch is diev 3 Druid 3 still the best option or is Krivis 3 good? Or is there some other janky option that's better?
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>>175269854
Why do you want to see my b-butt?
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>>175268217
>iTOS servers with shit ping for almost everyone
>TBL servers even worse
>also lower average FPS in iTOS client
good luck
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>>175268385
https://treeofsavior.com/uploads/news/Block_Clip_Opted.gif
Enjoy your no block, evasion, block penetration

I think DPS classes will go enough STR to get accuracy high enough to deal with evasive enemies, maybe 50 CON and rest in DEX.
>>
>>175270534
Question, does the "the more you invest the more points you get" mechanic is still in game?
>>
I'm playing through on a new character after being away for a while. Is it just me or did all the goddesses get happiness reduction surgery? They all seem to have new portraits that make them look super pissed.
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How do i make money as an enchanter? I got one cryo>linker2>chrono3 and idk what to do, i guess with enchanter i could make some easy money at least.
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>>175262321
HIHI
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>>175270706
not on ktos
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>>175270983
Open your shop in a less crowded map. I'm selling 600k in enchants per week in front of ET.
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>>175270706
yeah it is
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>>175271308
Oh, then new stats seem to be fine with splitting. Was afraid it was still the same thing where unless you were investing on only a stat you'd get like <400 points over someone who invested solely on it.
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Where do you get Andesium/how much is it worth? Need it for gauntlets but see none on market.
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>>175271586
Yeah you can balance your build out a bit more
seen a bunch of ktos players mix dex and str to various degrees
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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>>175271792
That's great to her, I was expecting something like RO stat splitting but this one is way better considering you can end up with endless point.

Does DEX affect staff attacks too? How about Sadhu? Really wondering if stat splitting will work well with wiz/cleric too aside from just monk/pally.
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>>175271973
I don't know these class details
Just wait for the patch to arrive and you'll be able to test it out eventually
Haven't seen any full dex staff demonstrations
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>>175270534
you're retarded, there's no need to have gloves with 500 accuracy when nothing needs that much either

builds will be like this STR:DEX:CON for physical and INT:SPR:CON for magical. supports go CON:SPR. Unique butterfly builds stack 1 stat and get easily countered. No longer can you go full CON unless you're an utter whale but even then you can't just trans your boots for insane evasion and gloves for insane accuracy and beat everyone. Gems wont cut it alone.
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>>175272248
you can still go full CON, since for every stat of block that CON gives you, you need to have more block penetration to deal with it, either through equipment or DEX. So assuming equal gear, in order to beat full CON you need full DEX, in terms of PVP. for PVE you just need enough accuracy to DPS, if you want to tank and do no physical damage you can go full CON maybe. Still not sure how much evasion high level mobs have if you have almost no accuracy from STR, since they are changing mob values constantly in ktest.
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EU tard here, should I just start on SEA?
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>>175272924
Klai is the official TOSG server.
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>>175272924
Playing eu is bearable if you are ok with only doing dungeons during prime time.
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>>175272924
From my experiences
Its better to play on a dead server with decent ping than on a lively server with abysmal
This game doesn't handle bad connections very well
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>>175272924
go home white man
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>>175271359
>600k per week
Better than nothing, i guess. Can you spoonfeed me on how to make scrolls?
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>>175272924
If you're relying on attack speed a lot, go for better ping, other classes can survive 250+ ping quite easily
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How much does a Squire make? worth it at least for the free repairs for your other characters?
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>>175271815
are Wugushi good for killing boys?
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>>175271359
>600k
>per week
Man, I'm sticking to farming alchemist mats.

>>175271784
It's from one of the missions no one does. Seven valley I think
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>>175272924
yeah go ahead or if you want to play for real go EU. no one here really cares desu
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>>175235257
I'm planning to reset to this. Are Mouringaka Antennas a bitch to farm?
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>>175273425
there is always repair kit NPC price and shop fee.
some people do 0 profit shops and anyone higher makes barely profit. its ok for self repair.

>>175272924
i play from EU and got decent ping at NA. but im not playing attackspeed chars.
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>>175273982

Yeah but they're better at killing girls!
>>
So did IMC kill Monkquisitor in kToS?
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Do you absolutely need necro3 for a bee farming build or can I take sage or enchanter for r8?
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>>175273176
I guess you just buy mats from the Enchanter Master to make scrolls. The most useful skill from the Wizard Tree to craft into scrolls is Joint Penalty afaik.
>>
>>175274123
Yes, low fixed % and very low density in population, plus the Mouringaka hits like trucks without missile hole or good mdef even after all the nerfs we got too
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>>175274363
Why would you?
You'll just afk farm with that character anyway.
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>>175274363
you can farm with necro 1, but the problem is you are going to be contesting farming in bees against people with necro 3 who have more summons than you and will take your mobs. If you want the most out of afk farming, you need necro 3.
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>>175274363
sure, if you dont mind getting cucked by necro3's
kinda late to make a necro now
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>>175274428
Shit, guess I have to start farming now for that 315 orange musket.
>>
>>175274363
I think you have the wrong mindset about this
You should have necro 3 on alt accounts so you can keep them up 24/7
Not on your main account and most definitely not a char you want to play with since there is no farming, only afking
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>>175274595
bring antidotes and pots
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I WANT TO FUCK MAGGI'S ART!

i'd fuck maggi too, if she'd change that dyke haircut.
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>>175274921
>tattoos
such a turnoff
only fags can like that shit
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>>175275050
>only fags can like that shit
>TOS
yeah
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>>175275397
Those new costumes are absolute ERP trash, guess they really know their fanbase
>>
>>175275587
That happens with literally any korean mmo

>from lore fitting costumes to literally erp and meme tier shitty nigger costumes
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>>175275587
>absolute ERP trash
>TOS

>guess they really know their fanbase
yes, they do
>>
Any Lancer post-rework video?
>>
>>175275790

>Necktie
>Around her tits

Well that's different.
>>
>>175275830
yes but I can't be bothered to dig it up
>>
>>175275734
>from lore fitting costumes to literally erp and meme tier shitty nigger costumes

are you 12 anon?
>>
>full int clerics are ded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Z39hBwKZ8

Uhmmmmmmmmmm...
>>
>>175276036
also
>belt covering ear
>ears hidden/coverd on some other posted pics too
that is alright.. shes not good with ears
>>
>>175276195
what about full CON clerics?
>>
>>175276195
People are arguing everything is dead or OP before even getting to play, I missed this feeling back in closed beta test.
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>>175276195
>believing tosg shitposters
Anon please...

pretty much everything can be good now... with good gear.
>>
>>175276451
Even Sadhu?
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>>175276304
Who cares about those faggots? You can probably go full con druid 3 large insect w/ hedgestone boost and have a fuckload of hp+defense though.
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>>175276195

The current balance is retarded as fuck. Any real DPS class would shit out a lot more damage than that.

IMC pretty much fucked this update up by making weapons so fucking stupidly strong now. Before, only whales could get weapons with 2k+ damage, after this update pretty much anyone can.
That combined with percentage scaling on skills and the defence formula being pretty shit in general means everyone is shitting out some pretty absurd damage right now.
>>
>>175276515
with very good weapon and attributes. yes
maybe not as good as others tho
>>
>>175276702
Welp maybe because the 90% of klaipeda is a fucking CON cleric for fuck sake.

also ded server.
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>>175276515
Yes

t. someone who played sadhu on 3 different builds in kTEST

>>175276804
Still better than Bokor or Diev, if we're talking about INT clerics
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>>175276195
Proof again never to listen to shitposting /tosg/.

Ever.

Ever never.

Discord shitposters ruined this thread with misinfo.
>>
>>175276803
>Before, only whales could get weapons with 2k+ damage, after this update pretty much anyone can.
Comparing old numbers with new is pointless. Most numbers are total different.
2k now is a lot diff then later.

>That combined with percentage scaling on skills and the defence formula being pretty shit
that is a big thing
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>>175276804
I meant it as a joke, the only thing I can think of that Sadhu is useful for is a circle of it to help Monks get around in >pvp.
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>>175276803
>anyone can be good
>this is somehow bad

I don't know much of a retarded autist you have to be to think this is bad
Are you a pyro or pd2 by any chance?
You want only meta builds to be viable?
Whats your problem actually
>>
>>175276803
That heal bomb alone did more than most true DPS specs. Stop crying you fucking retard.
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>>175277102
He's probably a doppelcuck.
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>>175277102
but muh meta
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>>175277192
No he's a PD2cuck. I'm a doppelcuck. I think the patch is good. It's good to have more builds be efficient.
>>
>>175277027
>>175276913
I dont know or care much about Clerics, but if the class has some high % skills or you can fit classes with them into a build around it.. it can be good (with good gear and Attri).
>>
CLERIKEKS ON AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>175277294
Speaking of attributes, any idea how much those costs in the patch and how many points can we get from the expensive current attributes?
>>
There's something you guys are all missing.

It doesn't matter if more builds are "viable". There will always be a single combination that shits out more damage or brings more utility/more desired buffs to a party. That's just how games work.

And after that gets found out, everything else will be considered shit. Sure, you could be able to run the same content, but people will still think you're shit because you're not X/Z/Y.
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>>175276195
>>175276451
>>175276940
>that damage
>good
that's far worse than even current damage, retard
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>>175277487
Who cares what autists think though
Fucking redditspacing metawhorship cuck, this patch will be great
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>>175277583
it kills the bosses fast

>ITS NOT 2 SECOND KILL LIKE THAT OTHER GUY
neck you'r shelve anti cleric shitposter
>>
CnL a shit
>>
>>175277486
most cost the same. some utility attributes are cheaper, some cost more.

check tos-kr.neet.tv
>1 Point/"Price" = 1000 Silver
and we should get back all we had spend
>>
If what you are saying about every class having good damage is true, the best class will be determined by damaje projection and survivability. Any ideas on who will excel at these?
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>>175277752

It's not particularly good compared to any DPS class after this change though. Nigga have you even seen some of the new videos of people getting 400k damage crits and shit?

It takes a Cleric 9 seconds to kill two bosses, any other class could do it in 2-3 seconds.

You don't seem to understand this is low damage after the change and everyone is going to be doing that at the very least with actual DPS classes doing a hell of a lot more.
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>>175278109
>>175277752
>ITS NOT 2 SECOND KILL LIKE THAT OTHER GUY
neck you'r shelve anti cleric shitposter

no, i dont play clerics and dont care how good or shit they will be.
kys
>>
You don't even know the gear of this nigga
Please only compare when they show gear otherwise this is completely retarded
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>>175278315
this
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>>175277791
Stop mentioning yourselves, C*L.
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>MY CLERIC NEEDS TO BE A DOPPEL ON STEROIDS WHILE HAVING 4 DAMAGE IMMUNITY SKILLS AND INFINITE HEALING AND LOW SP USAGE
>IT'S ONLY FAIR
>IF MY PD2 ISN'T COMPARABLE DPS TO A FULLY DECKED OUT ARCHER, IT'S SHIT DPS
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tosg reminds me like a nest of young birds or something where you throw in a worm and everyone just goes crazy
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my cleric needs to have a musket too
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so now that that HG has galoks, is it better to farm for BB in the HG or in tenet church?
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>>175278920
what do you think?
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So, IMC released how crit rate is calculated now. To get a 100% chance of getting a critical hit you need a whopping 2155 crit rate more than the enemies crit resist, and crit resist is equal to half the enemies level. This means at 330 you need 2320 crit rate to get a 100% chance of getting a critical hit.

To put this in comparison, using 6 green gems (all 10 stars, 3 on main weapon, 3 on off hand weapon), leather armor and any other gear with crit rate at level 330, you get about 962 crit rate.
This is 55% chance of getting a critical hit.
Archers who get +150 crit rate from Swift Step have a 61% crit chance.
Hoplites who can get 200 crit rate have a 62% crit rate.
A Rogue while hitting from behind will get 84% crit rate, and with backstab it'll be 100%.

Remember, this is with 6 10 star green gems, 2 sissels and a few other pieces of armor that give crit rate (all leather) at level 330.
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>>175278920
It doesnt drop anything though and has minutes of respawn time
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>>175276195
>int cleric
>posts priest3
Are you being retarded on purpose?
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who the fuck cares about cleric damage or skill, all they need are big nice tiddies
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>>175279086
Good
Crits should not be so common place
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>>175278278

But it's comparatively bad damage. It's 20-25% of the DPS of a real DPS class. That's bad. I mean sure it kills weak shit fast but so does everyone.

Go post a video of a Cleric doing damage in ET or something then we'll be impressed. All we've seen is a video of a Cleric soloing bosses that literally anyone can solo, which is not impressive.
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>>175279254
you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

a dead DPS is 0 damage while a cleric is unkillable
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>>175279213
>all they need is a nice thicc ass
ftfy my friend
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>>175279254
not all other kill them in 2-3 sec. ofc good whales do. and some OP FOTM builds.
and >>175278315
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>>175279413

It's a good thing in solo content a real DPS kills shit so fast they'll never die and in group content they have a dedicated support clericuck to keep them alive while they do real damage, isn't it?
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>>175279254
Cleric was never high dps in ET. well.. maybe in baby floors. they are in the party for other stuff
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>pve
Do people actually care about the babbymode pve that is ToS?
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>>175279613
>a real DPS kills shit so fast they'll never die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHYVx32G_RQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16Xx_6YUcA

OwO what's this?
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>>175279890

>solo content
>Posts a video of group content

Nigga what?
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>>175279852
PvP will just be about oneshots and immunities again
>>175279991
Just look at this doing 300k damage with lancer skills
Even with all pvp reductions you'll get obliterated instantly
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>>175279890

You realise each of those mobs he kills has more health than the bosses the Cleric kills in that video, right?
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How about the dedicated >dps trees like Monk and Inquisitor?
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Musketeers on suicide watch desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIb7vgnTmE
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>>175280541
>full DEX
I think Musks will build full or high STR from now on.
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>>175280658
It doesn't really matter much when he has 4k atk when a clerics cure outdpses his entire rotation
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Does guardian Saint increase the caster or the recipients hp/sp recovery and by how much?
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Is wugu 3 required now or wugu 2 still good enough?
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>>175281114
Both are shit
Archer2QS3 is the default build for any archer now
Unless you want to make a qs3wugu3 of course might as well go full wugu
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>>175279701
PD2 does more DPS than any wizard right now in DPS checks, pyro simply doesn't hit enough targets so unless you meta doppel/sr your carrier on these floors would be the DievMikoPD
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>>175280541
>>175280658
>>175280760
can discord spammers who post the same chains be deleted already? thanks
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>>175280541
Damn and that's with a Stage 5 orange 315. I think arch3-qs3-m2 would have been better his stats.
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>>175280004
new HG is easy solo

>BUT IMC SAID ITS FOR PARTY
>believing imc
i played the HG and .. its not hard or anything
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>>175281303
I mean right now, not after the changes.
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These are from the same guy:

>Sword3Cata3Goon1Lancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZ_l29DStk

>Sword2Barb3Doppel1Goon2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADmaEdMBPHQ
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>>175281339
>can CnL discord spammers who post the same chains be deleted already? thanks

fixed
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>>175281856
wugu2 does well enough on its own right now, but wugu3 is really good too for aoe if you got nothing else to get in that rank
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>>175279086
How's barb 1 high 2 hop 3 finestra with +60% crit rate moulinets? Will it be a 99% crit chance on that?
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>>175282235
>CnL discord
is dead
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>>175282442

No. It'll be 84%.
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>>175279457
>How you can tell this is a BR game
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Bottom line is if you want to be great DPS post rebalance then make a DPS class, not a cleric.

Seems like you brainless morons are forgetting that in the new update everyone will be taking damage except you and healing is needed everywhere.
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>>175263508
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dead game
dead general
dead discords
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>check news
>nice, updates are live
>check neet
>check split shot
>Overheat: 5
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https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30605

I have literally never seen this shit used, how does it interact with something like Circling and AoE attacks? Does the attack originate from its original point AND the perspective point or what?
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>>175285960
Holy shit
Just realized this gives 25% more physical damage
scout2falconer??
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>>175285381

Don't be sad puppy! Here is a bunny to cheer you up!
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0nlshfja80/

is a good build for a pve fencer?
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>>175288620
>3/5 epee garde
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>>175288620
>10/10 composee
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Killing group bosses in 10 seconds is gamebreaking even if someone else is doing it in 1. Bosses don't get to use their skills and it's so fast there's no point in looking for a group for group content since you could've solo'd it 3 times before a group forms. This makes the game boring, removes motivation to do anything, and enables mindless daily spam while training players to half-afk through everything instead of actually playing the game.
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>>175288620
>9/11 faggotbase
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>>175289234
>Bosses don't get to use their skills
Good, that's the whole point. Maybe if they didn't make bosses knock you down every 3 seconds the fights would be less frustrating and boring.
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>>175289584
Just go play idle games like cookie clicker instead.
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>>175290115
Funnily enough they employ better game design than most shit in this failure you call a game
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>>175289234
They just need to add Hellmode to everything with 3x the rewards
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>>175289584
Getting knocked down is meant to be a punishment for getting hit, bosses are slow as fuck in this game for the most part. They just need to make them do more damage so it's more than a mild annoyance.
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>quit the game around september-october last year
>came back a week ago
>you still do the exact same shit you did almost a year ago
>except there's more mindless farms and steep DPK farming
thought this game got better, not worse

stop me from quitting again /tosg/
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>>175290682
You probably shouldn't play a grindan game if you don't like grindan.
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>>175290491
>bosses are slow as fuck in this game
So are player skill animations.
They also balance it around players with 10ms ping.
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>>175291109
You just wait till the boss starts his obvious windup, move to where that attack doesn't hit, pop skills. Everyone just mindlessly pops their skills asap because the bosses do no damage anyway.
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>>175291014
I love grindan, but not dungeon grind 0/3 erryday bro
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>>175291253
>>175290491
>faggot bosses in saalus canyon

no fucking no. they should remove perma knockdown chaining (at least in pve)
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>>175291438
Yeah that's fucking shit but they will never remove it. Dailies exist to protect casuals from hardcores unfortunately, and people already complain about the damage difference between geared players.
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>>175291518
Other than Harpeia most of their shit is dodgeable, the goblin has short telegraphs but he still has them.
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>>175280541
>10 levels in covering fire
>which is now by far Musketeer's worse skill
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get a job, you ugly fat neet.
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>>175290491
Yeah, bosses' attack are sure easy to dodge, look how popular the Survival event was!
Fuck off.
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>>175292846
nice try, mom, but it won't work
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>>175292939
Survival event was cheap because the wagons strewn about had trash collision and the Grim Reaper is intentionally OP since it's an anti bot measure.
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>>175293457
Grim Reaper has Chapparition skillset, with just nigger aoes.
It's nowhere close to the most bullshit bosses.
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>>175293457
Grin Reaper is also a quest boss
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>>175291594
I'm kind of casual, but if this game had no dungeons at all I would be ok with that. No cubes either.
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Who else taking a break after token expires? At least until rebalance. No reason to play right now.
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>>175263421
>>175263508
there is always 3 core members on and at least 2 to 6 other people online
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>>175284507
>there are over 30 people actively erping in fedi2 alone
>that's ded
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>>175284507
>I hate WoW@ because there is too many people in it
>why can't this game have as many people as wow so I can like it
do you listen to yourself at all or you just drift in and out more than a mentally retard person?
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>>175295867
>No reason to play right now.
Why play after?
I dont want to shitpost, but what will change?
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>>175295867
I have 18 tokens right now, should I get more?
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>>175297096
I'll take them
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>>175297096
you should get a job.
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>>175282551
Proof?
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>>175295867
I want to quit until they add more content next year, but tokens went back to 2 mil so I stocked up.
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>>175297280
It's been pretty dead for awhile now
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>>175297428
it's been dead since the 3j incident
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>>175297987
What happened?
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>>175293585
It's an ET boss too.
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>>175298121
Nothing. It slowed down slightly because some are taking a break until the new patch comes.
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>>175297987
no
>>175297280
its pretty empty and slow
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dad
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Why can't ToS be like this?
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130
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>>175304508

ESO is a weird as fuck game. It started off hilariously bad, got better, actually got playable for a little while, then went to shit, got playable again and right now it's pretty shitty again and has a jewish as fuck expansion pack for release which is probably going to piss off many of it's players.

That and constant free weeks and sales probably account for why it's player base is constantly rising and dropping.
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H-Hello anon-kun.

Where can I find boss cubes drops? tosgbase doesn't have it or I'm too old for this teenager game and I couldn't find it over there.
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>>175304508
being more boring and generic?
no thx
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>>175306410
DUDE
SEXUAL REFERENCES
LMAO
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Briquetting
- Items registered as materials can now be correctly replaced with lower-stage items as intended.

?
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>>175297204
>tos is not a job
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>>175307961
ask reddit
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>>175307961
they fixed a bug that made it able for you to actually fuse lower level weapons to high level ones
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dead general
dead game
dead discord
dead guilds
dead builds
dead patches
dead future
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>>175311369
sorry, i play a game today. but not much TOS
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>>175311369
yes and it's boring let it die.
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>>175315079
dhicc
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>Wow cool Druid can turn in to monsters maybe I should make one
>Oh right the other skills are just big cure and big safety zone

How do you fuck up a shapeshifter class so hard? They are fun in almost every game.
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>>175316860
>let's make skills that require grass to work
>there is rarely any grass that works in the game
>waterball 2.0
>shall we think of a better mechanic?
>nope, let's instead give them a skill to create grass so that they take twice as long to cast their skills
IMC should be featured in every game design course as a perfect example of what not to do.
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>>175316860
>>175308383
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>>175317225
>>175316860
>www.reddit.com/r/vg-TreeOfSavior-General
Thanks C*ts
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I'm level 252 with no level 11 cards used, do I need to grind or am I good? I hate storage.
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>>175319039
Can quest + explore to 317
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>>175292939
Only shadowgaler and the grim reaper were dangerous, and those skills weren't knockbacks. Fuck off.

There's only two problems with knockbacks: it takes too long to get up, and the two zones with the most knockbacks in the entire game are used for the most common dailies.
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How often do they do level up events? Leveling now feels like it's on an ok pace. But going back to the natural XP rates will feel miserable as fuck
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>>175320969
Lately it's been pretty much all the time, and it's likely they'll do another one during the hullabaloo crazy reset spam week.
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>>175307961
>>175310838
From the way it's written, it sounds like say, stage 2 weapons couldn't be used as materials for stage 3+ weapons even if they were the same star count. Who would briquette a transcended weapon into another transcended weapon though?

Of course they fixed the bug too, but people should seriously whine at them until they change it. I can't understand why they think it's a good idea to sacrifice an objectively better weapon into an objectively worse one. I mean if the star system was used in place of the color system it might make sense, but really I can't even explain it.

>>175317196
>IMC should be featured in every game design course as a perfect example of what not to do.
This pretty much. I'd say except the cute characters but their decision to not have 3D heads and headgear was also retarded. There is literally no benefit to having 2D heads nor rotating the camera to their weird angle to pretend to be 2D.
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>>175321250
I think the 2d+3d aesthetic is really cute but the "Hey Arnold" style tiny hats with nothing covering the face is disgusting, as is the plethora of hats that are outright unobtainable ever since they removed party events and hat mission rewards.
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>>175321610
The only 2D thing are the heads and equipment on them, and they'd be better off as 3d with painted on faces and would look literally the same, but potentially have better hair and probably not wobble all the time. It seems like an unnecessary complication
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>>175321250
The benefit of having 2D heads is they don't look like shit like every 3D head ever made. The 2D style is one of the game's main attractions. Locking the camera lets them get away with taking shortcuts in map design.
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>>175321986
>like every 3D head ever made
There are shit tons of 3D JRPGs with cuter graphics and heads than this game. Their heads were probably modeled in 3D and used as a basis for the 2D ones.

>The 2D style
This game doesn't have a 2D style. It has an annoying overhead MOBA camera style. Xrd has a 2D style.

>Locking the camera lets them get away with taking shortcuts in map design.
It makes the maps a damn mess, especially with how they tend to be stacked on top of each other so the minimap doesn't really show how the map actually looks and you can't see ahead of you. They also forgot to angle the enemies so you could actually see them while designing them as if you were ever going to see them from head on.
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I accidentally NPC'd one of my stuff. Is there no way to get it back until they patch in rebuying again?
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>Every item has a different dungeon
>Fields have hidden chests with hidden items in them you can only open with keys from quests
>The 4 cards in the Necronomicon will change your Shoggoth's stats
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee.1a214a59.152f6a7a85.113f58618ab5c5

is that good?
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>>175322763
>for the 2D ones
You claim there's 3D JRPGs with good heads and then call them 2D? What are you trying to say? At least post some examples.

>This game doesn't have a 2D style.
They not only deliberately intended to make it look 2D-like, but lots of faggots thought the characters were all 2D. You're objectively wrong.

>It has an annoying overhead MOBA camera style
Are you underage? This camera style is much older than MOBAs. Besides, that has nothing to do with whether the game has a 2D style.

What makes the maps a mess is their rushed, shorthanded work. Minimaps could be handcrafted instead of being minimal auto-generated silhouettes, but they didn't have the manpower for it. If there's a lesson to teach in game design courses, it's "don't try to twice as much as you should with 1/3 of the staff you need." The enemies are an example of the drawbacks of full 3D: they designed them to look good in their artists' model viewers, and the way we see them in game is completely different. With 2D art, what they see is what we get.
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>>175324621
girls not crossdressers
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>>175324621
post your feminine dicks
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>>175324038
>You claim there's 3D JRPGs with good heads and then call them 2D? What are you trying to say?
You had a problem understanding. I was saying IMC probably modeled a 3D head and used it to make the 2D heads.

>lots of faggots thought the characters were all 2D.
That's because they are retards. They most likely also think the latest high graphics look just like real life and then will call them shit in 5 years.

>This camera style is much older than MOBAs.
I hope you aren't thinking of a term like "isometric" or something. To me, calling this game 2D style is like those people who call pixel games "16 bits."

>The enemies are an example of the drawbacks of full 3D
>Not being able to rotate the camera is a drawback of 3D
That wasn't even a fucking drawback of 2D.
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>>175325032
crossdressers > girls
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>>175325674
but they have dicks
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>>175325674
it's 100% hetero if it's a femenine one
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>>175324621
>this fag never met healmage before
no wonder
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>>175279086
So RIP Epee Garde? What happens now?
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>>175323901
>>175323901
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>>175279086
Yea except now crit wont be the only way to viably scale damage, so it's not feast or famine in that regard.
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>>175325383
>You had a problem understanding. I was saying IMC probably modeled a 3D head and used it to make the 2D heads.
It's possible, since that would save time and help with consistency, but it's irrelevant since the end result is still a 2D head. You didn't come up with any examples of JRPGs with 3D heads that don't look like plastic.

>I hope you aren't thinking of a term like "isometric" or something. To me, calling this game 2D style is like those people who call pixel games "16 bits."
Do you have any idea what any of those terms mean? Fuck off and get a dictionary.

>Not being able to rotate the camera is a drawback of 3D
Don't put your own nonsense in the meme arrows. Don't quote me and then post unrelated bullshit afterwards, either. If you're going to play dumb after I clearly spelled out how the drawback of 3D in question is the fact that the way players see things in any game is completely different from how they look in the artists' model viewers (which would still be the case with a rotating camera), there's no point in reading whatever butthurt gibberish you reply to this with.
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>>175327451
No, the crit damage you get from dex is absurd now. Fencers are going to be big single hits I think and be heavily reliant on optimizing their crit rate in any way possible.
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>>175327803
>JRPGs with 3D heads that don't look like plastic.
Lego Batman.
Checkmate, athiests
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How common is lvl.1 status ailments in dungeons? I was thinking of getting Oracle just for this: "Grants a temporary effect preventing Lv. 1 status ailments to nearby party members."

I'm lvl 220 and freeze/sleep/blind seems to be happening a lot now. I'm Krivis3, Cleric2,Priest, ?,Taoist
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This whole crit business would be solved if crit multiplier existed alongside crit chance, and if crits rolled for each instance of damage. Wouldn't simply be "well we flipped a coin and you didn't get double to quintuple damage sorry kid"
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>>175328365
Prophecy is mostly for PvP, in PvE you can use the item "dispeller" which is the same thing except it costs money and doesn't use a buff slot. The main draws of Oracle are counterspell, which creates a barrier which blocks all magic damage for 30 seconds, and resetting, which with clever use will let you farm some very hard to get items. For your particular build I believe it's common to go either Priest 2 for Revive or Miko to support Diev characters, but Oracle would be fine too.
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>>175328983
I thought it only removed magic circle from the ground. does it also block for the duration? is it for the whole party?
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>>175329292
Yeah, stops all magic from hurting you, stops most CC effects from applying, auto cures status effects of party members in range.
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>each day I do less and less dailies
>each day I have less and less reason to login
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Is there any alternative to Alemeth at 200+? Decent alternatives, not shitty subpar ones.
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Uhmmm, where can I meet cute clerics(male)?
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>>175332045
in ur ass
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>>175331872
To grind? Most grind in Truffles now until 240, but if you hate the place here's the old world grind spots that aren't used really that much more anymore:

Truffles
Evacuation District*
Storage
Maven Abbey

*Evac especially is a wonderful spot to grind, but the mobs give less job experience, but the place is packed. No one grinds there anymore but if you're a solo grinder it's nice. Plus is that there are a dozen of silly gimmicks there now and the pendulum gimmick rewards a strong gem abrasive. Also the colimen drops sell for a lot since it's a material for Terralion, a Max Petamion alternative that has higher magic defense because it's higher level.
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>>175332262
That is very silly, anon!
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>>175332538
Dude.. its not that unlikely for a faggot like you, to have another faggots cock up your ass.
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>>175331872
Don't listen to this guy
>>175332424
The actual answer is 'no'
All these alternatives are shitty subpar ones
Storage is only good at lvl 252 when you're abusing the middle teleport warp
but its faster to quest past 245 or so anyways
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>>175332659
That's very gross, anon. I just want to meet cute clerics(male) and play the game with them!
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>>175329603
>People who log in just to do dailies
>Somehow can't be assed to just go play the fun parts of the game
>Wonder why devs put in daily shit
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>>175332846
And put there little wieners up your butt. Yes, we know that already :^)
They are gross and Your gross.
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>>175332719
Then why are you asking you fucking retard? Fuck off you shit head shitposter. You're contributing nothing with your retarded questions and then rejecting a full answer. Kill yourself shitposter faggot.
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>>175333040
You sure do love talking about wieners, grossy gross.
You are an impure ohayou. Get out of my sight.
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>>175333139
Ok, i'll get out of your sight, so you can focus on searching wieners for your butt.
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>>175333040
>>175333139
ummm you are suposed to ERP in-game, not on the thread
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>>175332424
>>175332719
Erm, so... Truffles in Alemeth is the way to go? I'm not playing alone, I have a Peltasta + Linker + AoE DPS setup. We can find a Cleric and maybe a Chrono and it's good enough for Truffles. The problem is that it's always crowded. All channels full. It's pretty awful with more than 1 party per channel.

>>175333047
Erm, I wasn't the other guy replying to that. I used to hang around when Lolipantsu was still attentionwhoring over here (I have no idea if he still is). I dropped the circlejerk a few weeks after I moved to Slut.
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We should gas Ohayou, and CnL niggers
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>>175333762
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>Ask player who isn't even farming the same item as me if he can move chann so my DPK doesn't get messed up
>Gets all pissy and won't do it

What is with BRs? He gains no benefit from it he's just doing it to be an asshat to somebody who's barely even looking at the screen.
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>>175333762
>NaziPopo wants to gas Adoflina Plasnazica Hitlerina
Neger bitte
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>>175336612
Did people prove that DPK is still channel-based even though the dev blog said it uses personal kills?
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>>175337757
Yeah, it has been a hot topic of debate and shitposting here lately. I thought the drop chances were no longer tied to channels?
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>>175337757
That's really hard to confirm but my issue was he was triggering a shitload of ambush spawns. I don't wanna fight a bunch of crap while using resetting because some guy's running around in my general vicinity.

That might explain why there's no BB's on market now though, might be harder if every single player who wants one needs to kill ~300 or however many it is.
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>>175333762
>not gassing BR first
did your mom drop you on the head when you were just a baby?
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>wake up
>no one messaged me saying: it's okay son, I'll buy all your items for five thousand hues so you can be free from this mess forever

I want to go out from mr kim's ride
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I finally did it, /tosg/!
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>>175333693
I quit months ago, but I still lurk.

This game turned into everything I hate and loathe, that's why I left.

I was right about 80% of everything I said. Anyone who disagrees is delusional.

It was never attentionwhoring, I was legit posting about the game every single time. Look at the thread now, almost nobody posts about the game.

One way or the other, Futureproof lives forever.
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>>175340661
>everything I hate and loathe
Things other than PVP? Why couldn't you handle a real PVP game like Eve then?
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>>175340525
Congrats!

Cute!
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>>175340854
EVE fascinates me. It is likely the single most complex piece of vidya ever produced. However, I can't get into it. It was my second attempt, but I can't justify prowling for 6 hours to exchange fire for two minutes with someone and then get busted up a 40 minute travel back to my homebase or something.

Ragnarok Online really is the game for me, and Tree of Savior was supposed to be my new home. The awful netcode, awful FPS, and daily slavery really are the absolute worse. If dailies were fun and required actual team effort to complete(like the dailies in iRO Valkyrie Renewal) I could stomach it, but it's just mindless garbage that a single person can finish while everyone else watches.

Also, things happened and I got pulled back into Ragnarok server development. After 10+ years of playing that game, turns out you can make a fine developer, even with minimal actual programing skills.
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>>175342641
Why don't you just play like TF2 or MOBAs or something though?
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>>175342641

You do dailies because you want/are lazy, you can just farm silver, mats or whatever and make much more money.

Unless you're playing ragnarok on a rate 5x or above, RO is MUCH more of a chore. Farming money for mastela and foods and etc to burn it all in a single WoE, twice per week is really hard, that's considering you already have all your gear and leveled up already.
If you like pvp is even worse since you need even more gear to switch and stuff do burn. plus the game is good so you'll want to roll at least 3 characters and not always they can share the same gear
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Is it possible to farm with Bokor Zombies? Why not? They lose HP all the time but the bees should spawn enough to make more right? I remember bokors dragging their zombies around whole fields in times long past and wrecking stuff,but why is it they were never able to just siting a bee pile and keep casting the zombie making move?
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>>175342973
They have durations and don't spawn again unless you kill stuff on the magic circle.

They are also trash damage-wise.

Zombie Bokor was always bad, it is still bad in ktest. Just a bit less bad.
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>>175342882
I think that's why we went into development, so he could make a server where it's just WoE continuously and you can level up to max and get into it asap

>>175343059
That's the point, bees, at least in the past, would all spawn and rush to a single point. Also eithe rat the end of beta or EA, I forget, bokors weren't bad. They were annoying and taking over whole maps.
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>>175343143
Bokor isn't bad. Zombie Bokor is. By Zombie Bokor I mean the summoner type.

Effigy Bokor is pretty good with Plague Doctor (even more in ktest).

Bwa Bokor is inconsistent, but does decent. I don't recommend it because it's an unreliable gimmick.
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Are Yellow gems really dead on ktos? I'm leveling one, almost lv 7 already ;_;
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>>175343261
Green will be even more desirable. Yellows suck. They may be desirable for balk but that is it. I doubt it.
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Is QS3 X hakka any gud?
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>>175343459

So maybe still good for rogue archers? Well, by balk you meant bulk as in defense?

Since IMC will be giving all our shards back without penalty, would be nice if gem removal also had it's penalty removed, at least for the test week. Some forum warrior should suggest this
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>>175342781
I do play LoL to pass the time(like, right now), but it's not just combat that's fun for me. Controlling parts of a game, denying enemy factions access to parts of the game, and meeting new people on PvP rooms and idle chatting between skirmishes is the experience I'm looking for.

>>175342882
I play higher rate servers. I've played officials extensively, but I like higher speed gameplay better.
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>>175340525
Whats your sword? I don't remember any curved swords that look like that.
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>>175343628
Green will be used for every class focused in critical attacks/attack speed. Mostly archers and definetely Rogue.

And yes, this balk.

And yeah. But I doubt they will remove it any soon. IMC has brain problems, although they are getting better.
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>>175342973
>>175343143

It takes a certain level of permanent butthurt to be mad at zombie bokors for doing the literally one thing they had going for them and imc keeps finding new and exciting ways to undermine.
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Do you guys do "optional" quests? Like if after you finish a quest, a character asks you to talk to another character but there's no reward or even a quest item to do it, do you do it?
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>win first round in tbl effortlessly by letting enemy come to us
>teammate inexplicably decides to leroy them next round and fucking dies
>"lol, guess that wasn't a good idea"
>Does it two more times in a row anyway

Fucking why.
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inb4 rank reset is next week.
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>positive gain
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What fuck why do they devalue practo weapons so much

>315 HG crossbow:
- 955 - 1168 ATK
- 42 STR
- 29 Crit Rate
- 1 (2) sockets

>Silver Hawk
- 955 - 1168 ATK
- 16 STR
- 28 DEX
- 211 Max ATK
- 102 Min ATK
- 2 sockets
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>>175347417
Pract weapons are just welfare weapons for casuals who can't run ET anyway.
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>>175343459
>Yellows suck
Say that to my boots
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>>175347417
Gimme sword stats

>>175347468
Mdef sword still has a purpose.
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>>175347468
HG weapons are even more welfare then.
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>>175347417

aren't they blue? purple will get a better bonus, plus, good luck with the (1)
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>>175347760
Both are purple, 9 stars.
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>>175347705
You need a party and to grind and lots of luck and money. It's just a faster alternative to pract.
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>>175343738
probably a nodachi
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>>175349954
>sub 60 fps
why dont you jew irl and get a better pc
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Boy /tosg/ do I have a story for you.

Have you found a big whale to feed your grindan addiction? I did.
Be sure to take care of your whales. They bring good fortune.

And on that day, it felt like I've become one with my inner jew.
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>>175350135
nice censoring, buyer is WolfLamb
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>>175350135
That guys's a sucker. 1.5m is already pushing it but he bought it for 3.3m each.
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>>175350298
But how would you know!

>>175350463
I prefer to call it more money than he can use rich.
Also try farming a caro antenna I dare you. 2m is about right for it. 3m is generous.
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>>175350547
because you left the layers in your png, retard
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>>175350298
WolfLamb is some korean retard playing on Klai?
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>>175350547
I've farmed yellow caro antennas for my astra it took me 2 weeks and then some to complete thanks to IMC's new and "improved" drop system. I still won't buy that for more than 1.3m, same as the rest of the server (Varena) which prices yellow caro antennas at 1-1.5m.
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>>175350713
Is that "two weeks" Full neet mode? But yeah that sounds about right. But remember varena has a healthier population compared to klai.
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>not playing barbgoon
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>>175350767
6 hours a night with a thaum helping since he wants some too for his regard horn staff. The thing is, this new system is broken, sometimes drops will never appear even though you've killed almost 2k. We could have finished faster if it wasn't broken.
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>hit 230 dungeon
>fuck yea
>run 230 dungeon
>get 5% of a level of character xp
what
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>>175351349
lvl 236 is the exp reset.
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>>175337757
>it uses personal kills
>personal
They never said that.
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>>175350573
B-but I made this one on MS Paint! And used delete before using paint bucket tool.
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>>175351523
I'm just messing with you I just guessed the name
dont stutterpost though you sissy faggot
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>>175351473
thank god
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Redpill me on guilds. Is there any benefit to joining one? Besides ERP partners.
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>>175350135

>6h a day over two weeks for 38m

>tfw I only do 4x 290 dg rushes + 6x saalus per day (takes ~2h depending on the party)
>1.3m/day from rushes
>+/- 700k from saalus silver (depends on how many canyons/mausoleum we get)
>1.6m/day worth of shards

that's 25m/week without actually playing the game

dailies was a mistake
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>>175351917

Ops, I fucked up a bit. It's four characters rushing 290 (12 kills, ~110k each) + five characters doing saalus runs, so 10 shards assuming no disconnects.
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>>175351917
>>175352010
Not quite. 38 m was only for 13 pieces of caro antenna. Which is about 2 caro drops per 2 hours with thaum. So rounding up it's about 7 double drops for 14 hours of farming.

So give or take it was 2.5m per hour of farming.
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Which female classes are futanari?
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>>175352432

no such degeneracy in a cute korean game

try a jp game
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>>175352432
Oracle and Thaumaturge
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>make around 4m a day with dailies
>quit 3 days after I started this
>been 3 months already
>thinking of installing again
>realization of the money I have lost
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>>175352731
I understand thaum (enlargen) but why oracle?
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I just started this and have a lvl 100 Sword2Hoplite2, is there any easy ways for me to make a bit of cash for buying attributes?
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What's the best archer build for farming?
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>>175354125
a2r1wu3
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>>175352757
Guy. You don't need to do ALL your characters. Just do the ones that are the quickest so you can actually play the game.
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>>175353473
http://www.tosbase.com/game/classes/Oracle/
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>>175353812

farm some materials people are looking for, like corpse hand for white hair achievement...

but honestly, I'd rather level up for now and maybe farm hunting grounds
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>>175355320
Cheers, I'll lvl up to 150 then jam some Narco Prison
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Wake up TOSG
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>>175359917
(You)

Just let it die, it will come back once the rebalance patch is announced, don't worry about it.
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IMC needs to lower required ingredients of making alchemist crafts, or increase the amount made, or people need to stop being cheap or something. Outside of SP potions and sometimes HP potions it's too hard to price anything even if no one else is selling it. Did they expect everyone to buy 10k silver potions or something? We should be able to make flasks out of glass shards or something at least.

With them adding SP potions that are better than alch potions at a cheaper price, it's going to be harder to justify to cheap players to buy SP potions at all even if they don't share cooldowns.
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>>175360657
>are better
>at a cheaper price
Nope.
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>>175359917
What class would Gabu-chan choose?
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>>175360657
>With them adding SP potions that are better than alch potions at a cheaper price
WRONG
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>>175343738
>>175349824
Pic related. Too bad they removed the briquetting "bug" before I was able to fuse a katana-looking sword with a Gale Slasher.
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>>175363769

why not 4 slot hg one fampaimalam
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>>175354527
Play the game and do what?
More dailies? Game has nothing else but them
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>>175350135
Uhmm, slaving like a retard in the same map for hours and then selling them to some guy who just bought his silver with easy rmt is the opposite of jewing.
You're literally a goy
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>>175363918
Because it has lower base attack and there is a chance I'll transcend my blade to use it until we have new HG weapons.
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>he still plays Tree of Slavery
don't forget your daily 2 to 10 blessed shards farming, you need about 1400 for your weapon!
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>>175364412
>1400 for your weapon!
You need 3000+ for stage 10
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>>175364412
>2 to 10
Fuck off casual. I farm 16 blessed shards per day. Anything less than that shouldn't even be mentioned in this thread.
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>>175347468
Show me someone who runs ET without practo weapons. Oh wait you can't.
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>>175364392

Oh, I see. How's your build? No HL 2?
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>>175364412

we farm shards because it's easier than doing field farming

other games you have only the option to field farm or rmt
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>>175364880
Sword1HL3Barb3Shinobi. After the renewal, I need to test if Sword3 is better than Barb3, but I believe my build has better sustained DPS after using the kunai and moulinet combo with the clones.
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>>175364580
he's just being generous so you keep carroting
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>>175350939
what is the build?
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>>175364580
It's actually 2830 blessed shards for a 2H weapon.

In rebalance it will be 2830 blessed shards for a 2H weapon.

It will cost more for Lolo/Solm weapons, about 40% more.

So you need around 3962 blessed shards in rebalance for Solmiki/Lolopanther. Just for the weapon.
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>>175364992
I would rather the game function this way, fuck having to do dailies every day to have money.
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>>175364412
what else is there to do? I don't have a weapon strong enough to roll around and farm as a pyro/thauma/linker so saalus and 290 is all I got.......
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>>175365686
>It's actually 2830 blessed shards for a 2H weapon.
Not anymore, depends on level and grade.
http://dedi.onfry.com/tos/transcend_mat/
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>>175365829
Go kill kepas and sell me a red boater for 30 mil
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You can save tons of shards just by going 90% on the transcendence
I've personally transcended my weapon to stage 8 with every stage being 75% to 80%

People that go 100% are dumb as shit
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>>175365829
Get a job
RMT ez silver

lawnmoving for some neighbor could possibly gain you 5-15 m depending on how generous they are

If you're an adult without a job then you need to kys anyways
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>>175365953
Oh it's more now? 3390 shards. This is making me want to quit again.
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>>175366048
Anon that's like a 60 hour time investment you're ever getting that hat.
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>>175365829
>I don't have a weapon strong enough to roll around and farm as a pyro/thauma/linker
You just need a 5hammer
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>>175366358
What's the matter, too lazy to play the game outside doing dailies?
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>>175365814

You do because you want, field farming nets you much more money
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>>175366457
dont think it is enough for yellow caros
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>>175366632
It is now.
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>>175366608
you need to already have good gear TO field farm
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>>175365829
>>175366457

this. five hammer + psychokino dagger (80k), agny and lv 50-70 fireball attribute (it's a rank 2 spell so very cheap to upgrade). swell both arms for free +500 matk and you're set. you will eventually get a practonium, go for the mace 3x 120 matk hats and you can even carry solmiki 30f
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>>175366885
no, with swell they are near 700k health, not enough for a shitty firehammer farmer
>>
Instead of a long setup, why don't you finish your oponents in just a few hits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg3KSSMa8wk
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>>175366908

no you don't, play pyrothaumalinker, swordsman or archer

do you know how retardly OP a fencer 3 is using a lv 170 weapon (that you can farm in two or three days) with two lv 6 gems in a full dex meme build? don't even need sissels if you go green in the two slot 170 dagger

or just go cannon and delete shit

survivability? glass bracelets, buff your set on a enchanter, 4 lv 6 yellow gems on a palte shit wapon and aspersion

enjoy 1 damage from everything

>but gems

leech tbl and maybe uphill or just buy from the market or farm the mats yourself
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>>175367186
Tree of Whales
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>>175367023
Just link them, you don't have to kill one at time.
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>>175367186

~~~~~~~balance~~~~~~~~renewal~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>>175367227
this amount of misinfo bullshit in one post
do you even play this game?
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>>175367186
what skills do that much damage in lancer?
That class doesn't have that high of multipliers
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>>175367227
>a lv 170 weapon (that you can farm in two or three days)
>Venier
>easy to farm
Fencer is garbage at farming.
>>
>keknewal
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>>175367451
He used Spear Lunge > Crush > Quintain > Quintain.
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>>175367354

ok, the game is super hard for you, try world of warcraft
>>
>keknewal
>>
Do I have to unlock Miko Master and Appraiser Master for multiple characters?
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>>175367584
Oh I bet its the defense reduction then
This shows once again how strong no defense is in keknewal

HL3 must be really nice for doppels now
Better than barb most likely
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>>175367480

if you can't farm a venier in 3 days as a neet you're really doing something wrong

>but I'm not a neet

sell token/scrolls

>but I don't want to rmt

farm it in a week
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>>175367742
Yes
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>>175367975
Holy shit what. I fell for the 'you can use other character for app quest' meme.
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>a pyrothaumalinker giving """advice""" on how to play other classes and how """easy""" it is to farm maps as any class
this general, literal garbage. is this the same shitposter Fedicuck posting again with his 1 beta orbiter from that """/tosg/""" guild trying to misinfo the thread again?
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>mfw farmed venier in 1 day

Don't even bother replying to me peasants
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>>175369096
shut the fuck up you nigger nobody asked you
>>
^I don't (You) nigg peasants
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>>175369096
I did it in one day too swell golden upent.
>>
@nigger

i do'nt nigg the nigg =)
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>>175369096
>venier

what is this? 2016? gtfo you hue.
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@175369817
Impotent rage won't get you your gear that will be obsolete post patch, goy-boy
>>
GUYS
VENIER
LMAO
>>
^Call him a jew nigg!
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>pencildicks in 2017
hahaha
maybe to roleplay your cuckfetish?

Even lancer does more damage lmao
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Anyone can help? I can't get my controller to work. It worked last night but now it just doesn't. Unplugging it and plugging it back causes the game not to respond at all anymore. Not even to clicks. I'm using a PS4 controller. It works without DS4Windows so I don't use that program. If I do use DS4Windows I sometimes get these errors and crashes, even bluescreens. Don't know why. I know this is a bad place to ask for help but I figured it can't hurt.
>>
>using a pencil as weapon in 2018-1

hahaha what a gay
>>
DUDE
DISCORD MEMES
LMAO
>>
How do I undesynch my cuckophract? Sometimes my pet disappears if I jump too much with Trot on and I can't use my skills when not mounted.
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>>175370789
>>175371020
ask reddit
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So is IMC's balance philosophy making the classes take turns on what is good and what is terrible?
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>>175371417
>>175371238
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>>175370789
do NOT use that popolion anymore without permission
(first warning)
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>>175367779
Probably not, since armor break duration has been nerfed to the ground.
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>>175370789
>>175371869
Second warning popolions are sacred creatures and also holy and blessed existences of god.
>>
>venier
>when solmiki rapier exists
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>>175351886
you can ask ppl for help on builds, quests, grinding
and a free hamster! if you're in telsiai, comfy gives one for each member as long as they like tho haha
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>venier
>guys i'm a retard look at me xd
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>>175372389
>exists
show one
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someone pls give attention to this retarded doppel shitposting about venier
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>>175371549
>>175371238
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I want one thing from the TOSG!
Cute, Bullies and Futureproof to merge!
Also Coffee and Maid to merge!
CuteNotLewd can kys!
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>>175373009
what would you name the merged guilds?
CuteproofBullies?
CoffeeMaid?
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>>175373083
literally ,r,e,d,dit the guild but with more meme spouters
>>
>>175373481
I thought CNL was the reddit guild
>>
>>175373009
>>175371869
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>>175373606
CnL is the hue guild

>myobi
>lalaco
>plasma

literally meme spouters brazilians.
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>>175373609
I will use all the pooplions i want
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>>175373803
>lalaco
>brazilian
Mexican*
>>
>>175373803

Don't bully Lalaboy! That is my job!
>>
>>175373009
>>175373609
>>175373881

Ohayoupolion is a big ugly shit
>>
>NA woke up
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is there a pic of all the classes as a male? tosbase has them as female
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>>175350939
OMG is that SPACE MARINE class going to be in r9?
>>
Why would anyone make a male character when females are objectively superior?
>>
>>175374419
cuz im not a bitch
>>
@eu shitter
The boss of this thread has some freetime to liven it up a bit

>>175374419
Males are objectively superior
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>>175374502
you just act like one
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>>175373803
>lala
>hue
are you high? he's a taco
>>
>>175365364

pelt barb 3 corsair dragoon 2

doppel is better than corsair but minigames is addictive

>>175374401

kek
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>>175374569
I am the boss
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wasn't this game dead as fuck? how come there's a general like this
>>
>>175374671
why pelt if swashbuckling is becoming more and more obsolete?
>>
>>175350939
150% more slash damage on cloth that gets 50% more slash damage and using pounce is fun when its fun isn't it
>>
>>175374714
Thread isn't alive
Is just extreme autistic samefagging
>>
no one takes animeposts serious
>>
>>175374630
same shit you shitty spic.
>>
>>175374858
i do
>>
>>175374419
cause all shitter faggots pick girls
>>
>>175374957
you are a no one
>>
>>175374831
>89 IPs

oh shit you're right
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>>175374419
Males have dicks and dicks are gross
>>
>>175375039
this is true too
>>
>>175375096
you are gross lose weight fat faggot cheeto eater i bet you are from Hues And Lewds
>>
>>175375217
fuck off C*lnigger
>>
>>175374762

C guard, taunt, 25% extra hp. It's good on pve and great on pvp.

highlander could be a option to for a super meme combo of crossguard into warcry for serpentine dethrone dragontooh or sword 2

>>175374771
it's always fun, even on plate with demonas. with a proper pve build with doppel c1 instead of corsair that girl would be even more destructive. 30 seconds of serpentine is no joke
>>
I miss the original guilds
>>
>>175375586
problem is dragoons damage dealing abilities are underwhelming compared to if she just went doppel c3 instead. that build is a doppel build.
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What happened to the rodent?
>>
>>175347417
>>175347468
most HG purple are worse than purple pract

>>175347760
there are white,blue,purple 315 HG weapons

>>175347668
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?ulvlmin=315&ulvlmax=315&grade=3&order=cdated&f=1
>>
>>175375635
original guilds a shit


>FP
DUDE
MY RODEL IS OP IN PVP LMAO
>foe
DUDE
AZEBU
LMAO
>cnl
DUDE
LALACOW
AY MADRE MIA
>comfy
DUDE
MY WIFES SON
LMAO
>>
>>175375959
Clover was pretty cool
>>
>>175376059
DUDE
MIA
LMAO
>>
>>175376059
DUDE
I PLAY FROM SEA
LMAO
>>
>>175375959
fucking HATE azebu
>>
>>175376218
>>175376164
>>175375959
neck yourself
>>
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>when your guild is lowkey the best
Feels amazing man
>>
>>175376059
Sure it was with 4-5 active people and a guild leader that only logged in when everyone else was sleeping or at work
>>
>>175376835
which guild shitter
>>
>>175375750

dragon soar + cleave is very underrated, plus having your own serpentine for your barbarian skills is ok. not a meta build, of course, but works very well, specially for those who don't like hoplite. hoplite is the most boring swordsman class of all time
>>
>>175375959
Not to mention the autistic arguing about manga or some other weaboo shit in that monkey guild

I can't remember the guy's name but I hated him the most
>>
Don't forget to put Lotus in the OP for the next thread.
>>
>>175376983
SOLDAT
>>
>>175377230
hi fatsheyra hows the diet going?
>>
>>175376917
that was at the end, but begin and mid was alright.

>>175377230
no

>>175377286
>solo/duo guild
kek
>>
>>175377230
Alsheyra i know games are fun but take care of your body please.
>>
>>175377230
Will do. Are you guys from Klai too?
>>
>>175376059
Clover was fun during guildwars
Actually the whole game was fun during guildwars

Remember that IMC killed most of its playerbase by "removing" guildwars
>>
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>>175377779
Yeah.
PM Alsheyra for an invite.
>>
>>175377230
>>175377779
>>175377879
Didnt they quit?
>>
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Itt: we motivate alsheyra to do exercise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT42XyfyGtE

you can do it alsheyra!
>>
Any tosgers in Orsha?
We have no guild here?
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>>175377879
>>
>>175374267
If you click on each class, Tosbase has both the male and female versions at the top. I don't know why the main site doesn't have a characters section.
>>
Is there any information about the 270/315 hunting ground weapons yet?
>>
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>>175381345
>>
>>175381345
>100%
I dont get it
>>
>>175381520
u jelly
>>
>>175379830
Yes
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So uh...

Why'd IMC nerf Krivis?

> iTOS Zaibas Formula
value = 90 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 19
value = value + [Character INT]
return RoundDown(value)

> kTOS Zaibas Formula
Value = 82.5 + ([Skill Level] - 1) x 0
Value = value x (1 + ([Zaibas: Enhance] x 0.005))
>>
>>175374671
what does dragoon do better than doppel?
>>
What the hell happened to this game
It used to run bad but at least it was only a low fps bad
Right now i got every addons uninstalled, game repaired, and every single seconds i get that lag spike i never had before
>>
>>175382206
Because Krivis+Taoist would be extremely OP with the new formula
>>
>>175382206
Because 1900% x 2 damage at rank 4 is retarded.
>>
>>175381802
Where? I can't find it anywhere
>>
>>175382206
They decided to nerf everything fun into the ground.
>>
>>175382206
Because the original was overpowered you retard.
>>
>>175382880
tos-kr.neet.tv has them all

>but i cant korean
You dont have to. I also cant. Most stuff is there also in English or easy to understand/navigate/copy&paste_to_google.
Stop relying on spoonfeed.
>>
>mfw both original hoglan from founders and another pet from cata's free voucher max level
I'm tempted to buy the TP one but how shit is the bonus mdef in the future? I love the idea of being able to mount them though and I don't have a facebook to get the green one.

Pingu still worth it?
>>
>>175384412
>and I don't have a facebook to get the green one
Make a fake one for free pet?
There will be more FB promotions / events / free-stuff in future
>>
Daqui a pouco este thread muda para PT-BR de tanto macaco.
>>
fucking BR scum, speak English or die in a fire
>>
New thread!
>>175385168
>>
>>175385875
>fucked up OP
no, fuck you, nigga

someone make a real one
>>
>>175384584
nah I can't be bothered with jewbook
>>
>>175386046
Stop with the drama, I only forgot to link this thread in the OP and it's already in the first post.
>>
>>175386283
What about the guild you added?
>>
>>175386283
see >>175386214

you are a fucking retard
>>
>>175386386
>>175386537

People were asking to put it in the OP since the previous thread. Instead of telling the random guy to lose weight, why didn't anyone say Lotus shouldn't be added to the list? I don't play with Klaicucks, so I didn't know about your drama with that guild.
>>
>>175386725
Don't make threads if you don't play the game.
>>
>>175386725
if you are new and have no fucking idea about anything.. dont make threads. retard.

Lotus and Alsheyra is a old meme. fucking dumb newfags
>>
>>175386893
You klaicucks don't play the game either, so I guess that makes sense
>>
>>175386725
Fuck off TarotPerson. You samefagging and pretending to be from another server isn't "people asking."
>>
>>175386893
>>175386980

Sorry for playing in an alive server and not caring for your discord and namedropping bullshit. I'm here since the beta but I always skip guild shitposting.
>>
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Help me out guys.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212777..153575.3f4f5a65

Is this fine? or should I get physical Link?
>>
>>175386725
>>175386985
delete that shit. nigga
>>
>>175387108
fuck off and stop making shit threads
>>
>>175387143
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212777aaa..153575.3f4f5a65.2f3e4f51
>>
New thread soon? Real one. Got a pretty funny blog post I want to post.
>>
>>175388302
>>175387939
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>>175364175
>>175354527
>>175352757
Touche.
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