/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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Best boy.

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My husband Astolfo is CUTE!

What will extella 2 be about ? !

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Best Ruler

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Spreadsheet anon if you are reading this I fucked up and entered myself on it twice

Please fix and dont bully, thank you

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>>175143134
Xth for Best Pirates

Show your quartz stash!!!!

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>>175143246
Nero

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So how does the War go if this were true?

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NEVER

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>sick of farming QPs
>but I don't know when I have to stop

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>>175143317
Shirou dies for sure.

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Sita when?

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I love her!

>>175143291
Fuck off redditor spic

>>175143247
Will Jacob affect BB?

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Soon

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>>175143332
Isn't it sad Kiara?

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>>175143246
Tristan.

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>>175143342
>worse

You mean better

>>175143342
>implying
It's just extremely faithful

>>175143419
I hope so. I also hope the maps will be water related.
Can't wait to OS the bb boss with my NP4 martha.

>>175143317
Shirou dies to Gay Bulge before this becomes a thing. That entire portion of the beginning would have to be redacted entirely, or heavily revised.

And then Shirou dies to Gil even if that happens, because Medusa doesn't have any bullshit plot armor to exploit like Avalon.

>>175143317
Shirou could probably still win through protagonist powers but he would have a harder time of it to be sure, especially if the Matous got Saber.

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Guan Yu 5* when lads?

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>>175143390
You keep calling me reddit, and i'm pretty sure you are from facebook.
Just calm down anon, your autismo is kinda annoying in a bad way.
Here's a (you)


>>175143342
Man, this shit has better rates than the actual game.
I got ibaraki with a memeroll.

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>>175143538
as much as I would love it, I doubt we'd get any maps with water in it anytime soon.
Hell I'd laugh if there was one with water, but the increased attack didn't activate because DW forgot it was a thing.

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>>175143134

Friendly reminder that everytime you use all your command seals, Mashu rapes her senpai.

Please,think of the Senpai.

>>175143317
Just forget the war and turn this in the sex VN Nasu wanted it to be

>>175143646
>rape
>implying

>>175143332
>No Tanaka Rie Servant
>New and arguably the best Hayamin Servant
Not really what I was expecting, but I'm still satisfied.

>>175143605
>i'm pretty sure you are from facebook.
nah I just saw your usual shitpost zoom by during the stream, then I realized you'd also been shitposting before the stream started. Funny how you can notice these things without annonimity. Now fuck off spic.

>>175143726
This

Hayamin > Tanaka Rie

>>175143726
>>175143427
I'll save until she comes out

>>175143079
Yeah, a fanfic. Kinda fun and light-hearted for a what if scenario, but nothing more than that.

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>>175143704
>implying the implication

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Which supports would you use?

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Event in 4 days, post off-season farming teams

>>175143834
The only support there worth using is the one with lunchtime which doesn't change

>>175143834
the one without the shit pirates

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>>175143538
>np4 martha
Sup Souls

I've been saving for her
Should have around 240 quartz and 50 tickets by her pickup again
I hope that's enough

>>175143767
FGO needs an ara ara seductress

>>175144125
>who is mama

>>175143767
lol no you fucking wish

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>>175143898
Well, thanks anon.

>>175144063
Would you rather my DUDE

>>175144150
she's not really a seductress, her Valentine's event wasn't even that lewd

she's just doting

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>>175143868
Not the most efficient but hey as long as it works.

>>175144303
Her valentines event wasn't lewd because all the valentines events were shit. Hers was "hey have you seen Kintoki I need to do valentines with him" for fucks sake.

She's a seductress in Halloween and Onigashima.

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>>175143868

How do you even charge mamas np?

Farming hands couldn't be easier.

>>175144429
>Arash charges his NP and suicides
>Mama comes next turn
>Helena charges everybody's NP
>???
>Profit

>>175144429
miyu CE does wonders on mama

>>175144429
Arash charges his own NP and STELLAAAAAAs
Mama comes in, Helena uses her first skill
Shit diesx2
How do you charge Kiyo's? Mage Association uniform?

>>175143834
Lancer Alter and Nightingale over the opposite choices.

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>>175143632
There's water in the event screenshots.

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>>175143729
>then I realized you'd also been shitposting before the stream started. Funny how you can notice these things without annonimity. Now fuck off spic.


Here's a (you)

You also dropped your hat.

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>>175143868
Farming bond in Shinjuku.
When farming xp, Amakusa take Jeanne position.

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>>175144753
Oh shit is that a thing? I must have missed that completely. I feel stupid now.

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>>175143868
Wish I had another Kaleidoscope so I didn't have to depend on support Waver

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>>175144550
>>175144609
>>175144621
Yep, I didn't realized that.


>How do you charge Kiyo's? Mage Association uniform?

Yup, Harry potter on first turn and then arts chain with another berserker with kaleido after Davinci's nuke.


>>175144875
Is amakusa any realiable?

>>175144939
>not just using the hogwarts suit

>>175143580
Heavens feel route?

>>175145000
Maybe once Vlad hits bond 10 so I can swap him for Merlin

>>175143580
Which Saber would the Matous summon? Shirou summoned Artoria because of the Avalon inside of him, but who would fit the call of the worms?

>>175145046
It would depend on if Medusa Alter was the hilariously weak Lancer one in the GO OVA or if it was a super powered Gorgon version.

>>175145139
I don't see how the 2 are related but that sounds like a good plan

>>175144986
With the Liz Ce, he kill all the hands. His NP is easy to charge and he can make a few stars.

I'm using him because I like him though. 59k to go and he is bond 10.

>>175145152
Gilles de Rais.

I think So we get 12 quartz tomorrow, 10 quartz on the 5th, and I have the 50 day streak in two weeks.

Should be able to manage two extra 10rolls at the event's end if everything fails.

>>175145220
Oh sorry. If I got rid of the support waver I'd have to bring in my Merlin to make up for the NP charging.
Vlad's almost to 10, so soon™

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>>175143868
Chains, Hands and Skill Stones

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Will BB or the Alteregos have the Evil trait? I haven't done Shinjuku yet.

>>175145414
No

>>175145414
They are all Good from memory, even the one that gets off on torturing people to death

>>175145414
Lip is Neutral, Melt is Good.

>>175145345
No I'm sorry I was being stupid and forgot Sakura CE is only 60%. Should aim to LB that instead of getting another kaleido.

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>>175145272
Interesting

>tfw only have enough pages to get one of ozzy's skills to 10
pages when?

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>>175145468
There is absolutely nothing evil about kicking someone till you climax.

>>175145414
They're crazy, but they're earnest. All mostly good alignments like Gilgamesh.

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>>175145627

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I will get on my knees and fellate DW if tey use this outfit for one of Gozens ascension changes

>>175145689
Is that sped up or was it actually that fast?

>>175145468
"people"

>>175145689
Demonically fast and agile, if her opponent was just slightly less skilled he would have lost his head there.

>>175145727
you will get her with her silly tiny hat at best and you will like it

I should probably level up my ruler mothra, what CE should I use? Might shove Guda poster girl since rulers take less damage. Or is a HP regen CE better?

>>175145835
L/OZ you idiot

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>>175145727
We know what her final ascension is going to be at any rate, just like with Amakusa

Her original past form outfit.

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>>175145689

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>>175145870
I actually don't have one.

>>175145882
Can maybe make it out a bit better here.

>>175145727
But then she won't be a JK anymore.

>>175145962
Drunk Jeanne? Joint Recital? Kaleido Ruby?

>>175145689
Is that Ataraxia Sakura's outfit?

>>175146035
No.

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>>175145627
I forgive her because she is voiced by Hayamin.

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>>175145835
>I should probably level up my ruler mothra

You better do or else avenger godzila will kill her way easier.

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>>175145783
You're probably right but a nigga wants to dream. tfw 2nd ascension will just add the hat or kimono and the 3rd ascension will just be this

>>175146104
>this is the deep, complex, mature and thought-provoking swan song of the fate franchise

>>175145759
The CM is actually damn fast, but I think this one is slightly faster.

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>>175146002
Shit

>>175145882
>I fell in love immediately
cuckbait: the servant

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I love my wife BB!

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I just reached Tristan in Camelot. Do I have enough time to power through the rest, Babylonia AND Solomon in time for the event? Really don't want to miss my chance at BB because I was dragging my heels.

Do I need to have cleared Solomon to roll for Lip and Melt?

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>>175145882
>>175146147
Thank goodness Foxtail's artist and Takeuchi aren't the assigned artist for the Alter Egos.

>>175146502
I finished first lion King battle to end of Solomon in 2/3 days only using bronze/silver apples towards the end so yes definitely

>>175146502
To roll the gatcha you're good.
I think you should have enough time to finish before the event.
Ay worst you may miss a day or two but nothing serious.

>>175146264
At the time she fell in love she was a single woman.

Besides her personality quirk seems to be having her Master as her boyfriend so you'd be doing the cucking.

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>>175146502
Solomon can be beaten in an hour, its only like seven missions

Camelot can be beaten by tomorrow if you really want it. Babylon can be beaten in about three days.

Event is going on for 17 days, but fucking get moving. You don't have to miss out on anything.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hyH2inDY9eI

Why do I like this OP so much?
I don't even play the game, and I tend to dislike Sakura

>>175146576
melt look more mature now

>>175146396
I love her more!

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>>175146576
>Shit talking Seijin

Stop that

>>175146723
CCC Sakura =/= Sakura

Its a good OP though.

>>175146576
I just hope the final arts are good

>>175146723
Cool song that fits the op animation also lots of hidden foreshadowing

>>175146835
She's flat not a loli so that makes sense

>>175146956
I'm already satisfied with their updated designs. I'm more eager to hear Lip and Melt's room lines.

>>175146835
They took so long to release her that 4 years have passed since we last saw her in CCC, so she grew from a teenager into a beautiful young woman. Designs accurate to real-time passing are the future.

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>>175146956
I'm hoping for this.

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>>175146913
Yeah, he blessed the world with this

https://exhentai.org/g/534605/3abea0eea1/
https://exhentai.org/g/300663/1875a13e5b/
https://exhentai.org/g/39056/c7de9bb3a6/
https://exhentai.org/g/502707/a59a4722b7/
https://exhentai.org/g/530790/12387c9da4/
https://exhentai.org/g/820637/c203c0ab57/

Not even counting his various Sakura doujinshi.

"It really hurts to have your hymen torn" -Seijin
Top 20 most iconic lines in doujin history

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>>175147098

>>175146147
Does anyone actually want this slut?

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>>175143868
3 turns for anything except Lancers.

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>>175147158
>You are just a maid

my nigga.

I don't like his coloring technique but in black&white his shit is great.

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>>175146913
Lip and Melt fanservice are the only reason to read Foxtail. You can drop it after they die.

No wonder Nasu is going to do an alternate route with more focus on them and his own take on Gozen.

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>>175146576
I wonder how the 3rd ascension will look like,since 2nd ascension tends to be servant default form in previous works.

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>>175147438
I know that style, is the guy who did the Gion no Tsugai manga. Man, Musashi is so freaking hot. I love her design. Too bad it got axed.

>>175147438
What's EMIYA's third from? His first is SN while his second is HA

>>175147316
People are more interested in Tristan appearing

>>175147438
>mfw came back here to post that pic
anyway 160cm of pure love, thomaz a best

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>>175147438
I want to badly injure Lip and destroy her boobs.

>>175147641
Original, it is the fsn coat but modified with gold trim.

>>175147641
Totally GO original.
Also almost all Wada character 3rd art is totally new anyway,so I expect the same for AEs.

>>175147816
>>175147848
Thought so. I'm not a fan

>>175147316
Reddit does

Le bone of my sword xD

>>175147316
Knowing my luck I'm probably going to get her, and I'm okay with that.

>Prisma is the first official print material that will have Herc vs JETS

Not sure how I feel about this.

>>175147316
Actually I like her more than I was thought. Will roll one ticket for her.

>>175148153
But it doesn't, its just people using their powers.

>>175148153
Doubt Illya is going to use the Berserker Install against Lancelot Sakura.
That said if she does friendship power + plot armor will atleast mean Jetfags are going to discredit Prillya as non-canon.

>>175148153
Even if that does happen jetfags are just going to say shit like "S-sakura nerfed Lancelot more than Illya nerfed Herc!" or "Prillya works under different rules so it's non-cannon!"

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>>175145882
>>175146242

This is probably it without all the shadows n shit fucking it up.

>>175147416
>Lip and Melt fanservice are the only reason to read Foxtail

nah. I think the Tamamo and Gozen dynamic is a lot more fun. And getting to be introduced to Gozens character is a lot more interesting than 2 girls I already know.

>>175148408
I don't know why anyone would use Prisma as an accurate presentation of TM powerlevels to begin with.

>>175148512
To shitpost

>>175148512
That one guy keeps posting about Julian going "Sakura will take away all your NP's" or something, thinking that it's a factual statement out of a material or something, Or Angelica being "better" than Gil so Julian saying that Sakura could steal away Miyu Install's NP's means Lancelot>Gil or whatever.

I hope we get a part 2 with more Alter Egos since this seems to be a really long event.

>>175147316
I'll be tossing my tickets in and she won't be unwelcome. She'd be my third AoE Buster Saber with Arthur and Alter, and second cutest after Arthur. I'm not a self inserting retard who wants to waifu every girl like a manwhoring slut so I'm fine with her loving the cute /fa/ boy from foxtail. Remember, more than one waifu will ruin your laifu. And no, you don't have a waifu per game/show/whatever. Best girl ≠ waifu

>>175148512
If it turns out that Pandora('s Box) is Beast V or something, I'll take Prisma powerlevels seriously.

>>175148512
Melvin does, because Sakura beat Shirou from a surprise attack.

>Illya installed Herk then summoned fucking Gorgon
I need to pick Prisma up again

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ROCKET PUNCH

>>175148692
So basically.
Because Shirou was able to beat Gil.
And Sakura(Lancelot) was able to beat Shirou
That means Sakura(Lancelot) > Gil?

Isn't TM really, really Anti A>B>C=A>C Logic because of how NP's work?

>>175148664
It seems every Fate story deals with a beast now.
Can't wait for Beast III to be the true Angra Mainyu to tie in FSN and FZ.
Prisma will have Pandora box.
Extra will get something on Extella 2.
And Prototype already has the 666.

>>175148845
Yes. Don't let powerlevelposters convince you otherwise.

>>175148845
Yes, but stop talking about it, you don't want him to appear.

>>175148846
>Tsuki has two beasts being Dust of Osiris and Aoko
>GO has Mother Harlot

D E E P E S T L O R E
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L
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>>175149023
>Tsuki
It seems you haven't heard the news anon.

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What's going to happen to Haku?

>>175149023
>Aoko
eh?

>>175149084
Who cares about BB honestly?
Where is my Hakunon servant?

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>Random battle effects

RNGfags rejoice

>>175149207
>ruler Francis Xavier is strong against BB
Like potery.

>>175149023
>Tsuki
Anon, I...

>>175149230
bottom left looks like a grail. FREE GRAILS CONFIRMED

Anyone have the bit from that manga where they talk about how the gook's legend of sword of guaranteed victory is literally a excaliber clone?

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Eggplant is back

>>175149084
She'll be turned into a portion of the dungeon wall.

>>175149331
Look at top right

Grail is "critical up"

>>175149230
who cares
>spinal fluid confirmed farmable in this event

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Who Violet here ?

>>175149426
Shinjuku is enough for that.
Also screen may just be a one time story quest.

>>175149407
NP own actually.

>>175149459
Snakes are bad culture

>>175149426
Who the fuck even uses spinal fluid?

>>175149084
i want that hand to inspect my bum

>>175149529
probably the egos and bb

>>175149163
Dust calls her similar to herself and Roa calls her a true monster. Arc is unwilling to encounter her. Apparently the Fifth is some real shit.

>>175149407
anon why do you have to ruin my hopes for dw improving

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>>175149526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI#t=0m24s

>>175149459
Yeah. Pity she's not in the gacha

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titties

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>>175142220
>>175141742
neet

>>175142220
I love how bored he looks.

>>175149727
NEVER EVER
KEKS BTFO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>175149679
can alter egos get pregnant from their breasts? asking for a friend of course

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>>175149679
I wish Nanashi would do less loli

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Nobu a CUTE.

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Woah

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Reminder that grand order takes place in the past or something

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>>175149850
But he already does more cowtits than loli, why would you want that?

>>175149913
Best knight and best ego

>>175149979
How the hell does she know about that and how long has nasu been thinking about grand order

>>175148846
>It seems every Fate story deals with a beast now.
Except that FGO dealt with 3 soon to be 4? I, II, IV, and VII is next. Arthur is looking for VI in FGO too.

>Can't wait for Beast III to be the true Angra Mainyu to tie in FSN and FZ.
Angra is explicitly the opposite of Beasts. He represents humanity. You can almost count IV because Merlin set Fou loose when he saw Arturia at peace after Fate route. But it's not that type of story, everyone is pathetically weak here.

>Extra
Beast III is likely Tamamo's 'real/original self' (Golden Fur Face). She called herself a Beast. BB was a 'new' Beast.

Prisma isn't relevant to deal with anything except loliporn and copy/pasted Fate references.

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I WANT TO HUG GAWAIN!

>>175150018
Well I also wish he would do less H-cup monsters too. His doujin with the classroom president hostage negotiation was fine, bigger is too much

>>175150202
>Angra is explicitly the opposite of Beasts. He represents humanity
Which is funny because every beast except PM has shown a ability almost the exact same as grail mud

>>175150202
>Beast III is likely Tamamo's 'real/original self' (Golden Fur Face)
This doesn't sound remotely credible no matter how much they try and spin it.

>BB was a 'new' Beast.
I thought Gil described her as something completely different?

>>175150328
No, they don't. That's just your fanwank and you should stop before I get secondhand embarrassment from your shit again.

Angra mud only has curses of humanity sins. That fucking it. It's not even "his" mud, but the grail contents of pure mana giving shape to those contents. It has absolutely fucking NOTHING to do with the chaos wave which is a tidal of genesis soil/imaginary number bullshit, and what Goetia does. The only time Angra can replicate something like this is when he uses Sakura as host because her element is imaginary numbers. She can do it on her own without grail-kun in Ataraxia.

>>175150202
>Arthur is looking for VI
That's the 666 from Proto.

>He represents humanity.
I'm talking about the true All Evils of World, how is that not beast material?
It would be as much of a deal as Tiamat if it was born.

>Tamamo's 'real/original self' (Golden Fur Face). She called herself a Beast. BB was a 'new' Beast.
>Tamamo and BB can be beasts but All Evils of the World can't

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>>175149679
Can she kill people with those?

Gozen is kinda cute.
I hope I roll her.

>>175150427
>This doesn't sound remotely credible no matter how much they try and spin it.
The Fur Face calls herself one of the evils of the humanity.
And Tamamo in her interlude says her original self (Fur face) is actually a calamity like the one who caused the incineration.

Are you going to argue with facts while believing shit like Pandora and Angra (which is explicitly NOT a Beast) is just fucking fanfic?

>I thought Gil described her as something completely different?
He said she could become one of the new Evil of Humanity (the Beasts). She definitely qualified with her "loves humans but her love would destroy humans in her attempt to save humanity" which is basically the issue of all Beasts.

>>175150089
>How the hell does she know about that
She's fucking Arcueid, that's how.

>and how long has nasu been thinking about grand order
A long time, clearly. Actress Again was 2008, and that seems to be the oldest allusion to the Beasts aside from general information about Primate Murder and the Beast of Revelation in side materials.

Gareth-chan when?

>>175150642
>Angra (which is explicitly NOT a Beast)
In your headcanon you mean?

>>175150508
>That's the 666 from Proto.
I know.

>I'm talking about the true All Evils of World, how is that not beast material? It would be as much of a deal as Tiamat if it was born.
Play FHA, secondary. You'll get your answer if you actually played it.

>>175150642
>Are you going to argue with facts while believing shit like Pandora and Angra (which is explicitly NOT a Beast) is just fucking fanfic?
I'm not arguing whether it's a fact or not, I'm saying that it doesn't remotely credible to me that this random """fur face""" bint is a Beast.

>>175150652
Hopefully never so that you can stop posting this in every thread

>>175150720
No, in canon. Why don't you take a peak to his Bond CE and actually play FHA secondary-chan.

Nasu even said that "dealing with Beasts" was dropped from FSN. That's why Manjew is there and not a real threat.

>>175149979
I must have missed a memo. Care to explain ?

>>175150652
when h-scenes are implemented

>>175150725
FHA was from a time the concept of Beast was unknown to everyone, including Nasu.
And All Evils of the World isn't the same as the Angra we know, we never saw All Evils of the World because it was not born.

>>175150753
I didn't say I like it, I said that it's already established in CCC and wasn't dropped because FGO brought that shit up again. It's Nasu's waifu, unfortunately.

>>175150720
Not him, but Angra Mainyu's Bond CE gives him damage up against Beasts like Tiamat and Goetia. He's also the thing they had to deal with in Stay Night, which was post Nasu deciding to drop dealing with Beasts IIRC.

>>175150860
>I didn't say I like it
Then we're in agreement and there's no point to continued arguing. Have a nice day, anon.

>>175150937
>>175150798
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angra_Mainyu != Avenger from the 3rd war and HA.

>>175150470
>this angry about something you disagree with
Proto beast can also do it, BB can do it, Tiamat can and Angra can if you think none of them are related fine but don't act like you know for a fact

>>175150858
>including Nasu.
He already came up with the concept of Beasts before he published Shirou's sex adventures. It was a dropped because none of the people in FSN would be able to deal with it.

>And All Evils of the World isn't the same as the Angra we know, we never saw All Evils of the World because it was not born.

Love your fanfic. Play FHA. Because you obviously don't know or understand SHIT about Angra Mainyu to even spout your fanfic he's a Beast. There's a reason why he's got an anti Beast bond CE in the game, retard. Go play and stop being a filthy secondary near me.

>>175151050
I'm normally not one to advocate spoonfeeding but he seems like the kind of idiot that won't understand unless you explain it to him in very simple words.

>>175151046
>BB can do it
BB was mimicking the power of the Ten Crowns (Proto Beast).

>Tiamat
Again, what Tiamat and Proto Beast can do are completely different of what Angra did. Angra on his own does absolutely shit, all the altered Servants are a result of an application of SAKURA's power and element utilized by the shadow. They didn't fall in the mud, but actually they were devoured by Sakura's shadow.

>>175151206
>all the altered Servants are a result of an application of SAKURA's power and element utilized by the shadow. They didn't fall in the mud, but actually they were devoured by Sakura's shadow.
Explain herc in strange fake then

>>175151050
I wonder if you are baiting after all.
Angra not being the true All Evils in the World is a plot point in both FSN and HA, they even tell you his story on both and how he was given that name and those curses. He is just a random villager unjustly tortured at the end.
The true shit is something far greater that was never shown.

>>175151206
Please explain how Proto beast mud is different from Angra

>>175151206
>all the altered Servants are a result of an application of SAKURA's power and element utilized by the shadow
It's been a while since I read FSN, but wasn't it because Angra contaminated the grail that this could happen?

Also, couldn't FZ servants also be contaminated?
That's why Nasu gave the explanation on how Gil couldn't be contaminated despite swimming on the mud.

Anyone have that Koha-ace 4koma with Sumanai and Giant Altera?

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So why did Manjew go full Super Cyan?

>>175151109
I hate spoonfeeding idiots, but I suppose this would clarify it.

"Another word for All Evils of the World is -Humanity-"
t.FHA.

Angra Mainyu = HUMANITY. Yes, that ugly monster forming? THAT is the embodiment of humanity because of early Nasu was an edgelord. It's made of all its sins and vices, and all its curses and damnations, but its human.

The Beasts are "Beasts that are fated to be defeated by humans." This is why Angra Mainyu has a Bond CE which is specifically anti-Beast, because He IS humanity. Not the tattooed guy, but the foundation of that phenomena called Angra Mainyu. All World's Evil.

They are entirely completely opposite creatures. Holy shit.

>>175151410
Yes he talking out of his ass while calling everyone else retards for not agreeing with his headcanon

>>175151206
>all the altered Servants are a result of an application of SAKURA's power and element utilized by the shadow
Did you read the wiki or something?
That's never said.

>>175151443
He is a rockstar.

>>175151460
Man, Nasu was cribbing Dark Souls before there was a Dark Souls to crib from.

>>175151460
but the Beasts represent humanity's sins

>>175151338
Explain how it is.
In Proto, the Grail is just a ritual created to give shape to the Beast, like a Satanic ritual.

See >>175151410 None of the Zero Servants were polluted because ANGRA didn't have that power. SAKURA DID. He simply powered up Sakura to warp Servants. Without Sakura, the mud is simply a carrier of curses.

>>175151460
>the greatest evil is humanity itself
Really makes you think....

>>175151460
Beasts are humanity sins though, that would All Evils of the World 100% beast material.

>>175151564
No, they don't. PLEASE READ BABYLON RETARD. I'm done arguing with morons who obviously have no fucking idea of what they are talking about. Gilgamesh even made a distinction.

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>>175151583
>None of the Zero Servants were polluted because ANGRA didn't have that power. SAKURA DID. He simply powered up Sakura to warp Servants. Without Sakura, the mud is simply a carrier of curses.
Wow theres talking out of your ass then Their is this post

>>175151460
>>175151587
>early Nasu was an edgelord
I prefer that to "DUDE HUMANITY IS THE ONLY SPECIES THAT MATTERS"

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>>175151564
They represent them, but they aren't actually humanity themselves. Angra Mainyu, All the Evils of the World, is explicitly described as "humanity". The fact that he got an anti-Beast CE when the Beasts are destined to be overcome by humanity is telling.

>>175151583
>None of the Zero Servants were polluted because ANGRA didn't have that power.
None of the Zero Servants were polluted because Gil was the only Zero Servant to take a bath in the Grail Mud, and he's immune.

>>175151583
>None of the Zero Servants were polluted because ANGRA didn't have that power. SAKURA DID. He simply powered up Sakura to warp Servants. Without Sakura, the mud is simply a carrier of curses.
None of them were polluted because non of them besides Gil fell in the mud you retard also you've still missed
>>175151268

>>175151649
what a fucking blowjob you turned out to be

>>175151583
>See >>175151410(You)
Can't you read?
He is saying the opposite.

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>>175145501
>Avengers are Evil
>Rulers are Good
>Alter Egos are split between Good and Neutral
One fucking job.

>>175151609
>>175151564
t.I never played Babylon EOPs

The sins represent the sins of the BEASTS, not of humans. Goetia's pity, Tiamat wants to regress them, Primate Murder wants to compare himself to them/competes. It has nothing to do with humanity's sins. Gilgamesh even explained it. Pity, Regression, Comparison of external forces to humans are evils that human must defeat.

Angra Mainyu instead is just humanity's compendium of their own shit. It has nothing to do with an external creature. Is this so hard to fucking grasp?

>>175151583
>See >>175151410 None of the Zero Servants were polluted because ANGRA didn't have that power. SAKURA DID. He simply powered up Sakura to warp Servants. Without Sakura, the mud is simply a carrier of curses.
>uses an argument going against him.

>>175151583
>In Proto, the Grail is just a ritual created to give shape to the Beast, like a Satanic ritual.
So are you going to answer the question on how it's different or are you going to just pretend that's a answer

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>>175151794
Why is exactly is regression a sin?

>>175151794
>>175151649

>t.I never played Babylon EOPs

But clearly that's you,since if you had you'd know that it's "Babylonia" not "Babylon".

Retard

>>175151947
Because humanity ought to progress

>>175151794
>m-m-muh sins of the beasts
>the Beasts are called HUMANITY's evils.

Checkmate. :^)

>>175151980
Even if that progress is made with ill intentions? Who decides that humans should progress, and why do they have the right to decide that?

Wait, didn't Tiamat represent the sin of matricide?

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He a good boy he dindu nuffin

>>175150804
Arc knows about beast 1 plan and that it failed for like 10 years real time

>>175152064
God decided.

>>175151410
>>175151809
>>175151737
I thought he was smart instead of a moron. I suppose I should have finished reading.

>That's why Nasu gave the explanation on how Gil couldn't be contaminated despite swimming on the mud.
Except that wasn't Nasu. It was Butcher. And it wasn't even about being polluted, he recognized the mud as humanity. He even said "humans are always this way" and acknowledged the mud. The mud IS curses so it would drive people insane, curse them and kill them.

I'm sure you understand the difference between what Manaka and the Proto Beast did. They took spirits who died and altered them. Did you see Cu Alter in hf? No? Did you see Iskandar? Deermud? Etc Alter? No?

What did you actually see? The Shadow, which was created by Angra using Sakura's body and power, swallowing Herakles and Saber, and those became altered. Alive. Hell, even when Nasu answers the question about Gilgamesh, he does it on the episode Sakura "ate him" rather than The Zero one. For Angra to alter someone, it needed imaginary numbers powers from Sakura. There's zero evidence within canon (written by Nasu or his flunkies Sakurai and Higashide) this can happen without it. There's just a bunch of assumptions.

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>災禍の怪物(けもの)
Is she a Beast too?

>>175152179
Gilgamesh being impossible to corrupt was mentioned both by characters in F/SN (Kotomine and Saber) and by Nasu in interviews.

I think a lot here have problem accepting Fate/Stay Night is the most irrelevant entry to the Fate franchise, despite being their favorite/the one that started it all with the new canon.

>>175152179
>zero evidence Altering can happen without Sakura
>what is Jeanne Alter
>what is Cu Alter
>what is Alcides

I want to FUCK BB

>>175152240
>most irrelevant entry to the Fate franchise

that's apocrypha

>>175152179
To have your head so far up your ass you speak complete bullshit is a impressive skill sadly it's one this thread doesn't need feel free to actually play the VN

>>175152179
Show me where it says only Sakura can make Alters.
Because we have a bunch of Alters that are not in FSN.

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What was her problem?

>>175152207
Only when she is suffering from sweets withdrawal syndrome.

>>175152240
You spell apocrypha wrong.

>>175152240
stay night is, at it's core, a story about Shirou. Unless Shirou himself plays a big part in other stories then it doesn't need to be relevant.

>>175152163
Nasu's God is a shitty sitcom character and terrible parent, why does he get to decide anything?

>>175152236
Yes, and in relation to the episode of Sakura, of why wasn't he altered, and Nasu laughed at the idea.
Being affected by the curse isn't the same of an alter. Kiritsugu was cursed, but he didn't become Kiritsugu Alter. The mud will fuck people up because it's a curse.

But the fundamental spirit changing and alter shit comes from imaginary numbers. Imaginary numbers IS OP and is Tiamat's trait.

>>175152207
She is a beast in bed.

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>>175152179
>There's zero evidence within canon

>>175152337
Literally autism.

>>175152179
The mud is used on SF to alter Herk anon, you can stop making having a cardiac arrest over this.

>>175152179
>Did you see Cu Alter in hf?
The person who heart got rip out and died before getting eaten by the shadow
>Did you see Iskandar? Deermud? Etc Alter?
the servants who didn't fall in the mud

>>175152256
What is EMIYA Alter?

Tip: None of those 'altered' examples have to do with the topic in question. But keep moving goalposts.

>>175152207
She's a beast in bed

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>>175152207
Yeah thats why she survived all Tiamat's bullshit and killed Humbaba by herself

>>175152337
3 Quick cards with shit attack, one shitty damage skill and no passive to boost them

>>175152363
I was talking about the Bible God.

>>175152405
He'll say it's fanfic or just pretend no one said it like he's been doing

>>175152447
>Alcides
>corrupted by non-Sakura grail mud
>nothing to do with the topic

>>175152419
>>175152405
I don't consider shitty fanfic canon.


>>175152421
>The person who heart got rip out and died before getting eaten by the shadow
>the servants who didn't fall in the mud
Guess what?
Neither did Fragment Servants. Thank you for agreeing!

>>175152337
I don't like Artoria, but I want to fuck Horta. This is the problem.

>>175152536
>T-that doesn't c-count
kek

>>175152447
>claims only Sakura can make Alters
>gets shown evidence of other Alters
>"nuh uh they don't count stop moving the goalposts!"

>>175152207
HOLY SHIT
BEAST V CONFIRMED

>>175152256
You forgot alter arturia lancer

>>175152382
The curse works very differently between Servants and humans,secondary

>>175152528
Which has nothing to do with Angra Mainyu. And it's
>Narita
Which is already doing shit that Nasu considers not a part of Fate setting anyway.

You were arguing about Angra Mainyu, didn't you? Please present your arguments instead of moving goalposts to bring forth an irrelevant guest author work. Are you going to bring up Prisma next as evidence?

>>175152508
>>175152536
Melvin confirmed

>>175152569
>only Sakura
Nope. I said only imaginary number element which IN FSN is present IN Sakura can.

Angra Mainyu couldn't. You're fucking stupid to not tell the difference, huh?

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>>175152595
>that Nasu considers not a part of Fate
>Nasu explicitly said it's another take on fake vs true like UBW
kill yourself my dude

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>>175152595
>>175152536
>my headcanon is better
>everything else doesn't count
Please keep going.

>>175152595
>-Lancer Alter is Artoria who, after gaining Rhongomyniad, chose to not become a goddess and wanted to remain a human. To do so she used everything she could, including the curse of the grail that she has a far-off link to, and chose to become the Wild Hunt.

>>175152647
>everyone who doesn't agree to my angra mainyu is a beast fanfic is melvin

fuck off.

>>175152669
>"only imaginary numbers can make Alters reeeeeeeee"
>proceeds to headcanon imaginary numbers being involved in the creation of Artoria Lancer Alter, Cu Alter, Jeanne Alter, Emiya Alter, MHX Alter and Alcides

>>175152731
What is the connection to Angra Mainyu? Please cite it.

>>175152686
Fake is another setting, not Fate, according to Nasu in his blog.

>>175152741
It was presented as a possibility only you know.
You were the one who hyperventilate and started the autistic rambling with half made up shit.

>>175143317
> shirou traces harpe
> medusa kills shirou
The end

>>175152824
>the curse of the grail that she has a far-off link to
This curse is Angra Mainyu's pollution. When a Servant comes into contact with the regular Grail, or when they can't be corrupted by the mud, they're incarnated. When they come into contact with the cursed Grail mud, they're incarnated and Altered.

Why are these retarded onishitters so delusional?
Ibaraki is shit

>>175152796
>proceeds to headcanon
Did you forget Goetia went to see Tiamat first before he threw all those grails across history through his pillars?

What 'Beast' is involved in Strange Fake? Narita is just doing whatever he wants.

Is this some desperate case of Sakurafaggotry or is it something else entirely?

>>175152940
>This curse is Angra Mainyu's pollution.
It doesn't exist in FGO.

>>175152827
It's funny only like one guy said anything about Angra being a beast with me commenting about the mud being similar despite them being opposites and a hour later he's completely made a fanfic in his head and calling everyone retards

>>175152968
>"T-T-Tiamat Altered them all!"
>can't cite where she lent imaginary numbers to Goetia's grails or did anything before awakening beyond letting Gorgon have Potnia Theron
>the headcanon continues

>>175153041
It's somefags desperate to prove FSN is relevant outside nostalgia and mad that it's not.

Do you wish to be free from this hell?

>>175153041
It's the fate strange hater going insane

>>175153043
So, what other "curse of the grail" could it be talking about?

>>175153093
Please cite she didn't when Goetia was communicating with her and Kingu.

>>175153143
Are we all gonna get nuked by janitors for "going off topic"?

>>175153041
I have literally never seen a Sakura fanboy try to wank her like this so I'm gonna assume its the SF hater or some desperate F/SN fanboy isntead

>>175153189
Absence of evidence against something is not the same as evidence for something.

>>175153185
I don't know the worldline she comes from. Do you? She clearly doesn't know Fuyuki at all.

>>175153041
It feels like a BLfag who's out of touch and his meme theories definitely don't matter anymore so now all he can do is sperg out here

>>175149459
> jobbing to a slut caster
Shes dead next chapter, nobody will remember her.

>>175153189
>"please prove something didn't happen"
>can't prove that Goetia didn't scoop grail mud from the FSNverse to use for Altering

>>175153041
It's this guy
>>175150202
Who is now trying to act like melvin to blame it on him or he's melvin

>>175153230
The janitor hasn't shown himself for anything besides porn and /pol/ shit ever since the HGW anon made them joke on his girthy cock

I think this is going out topic:

それは人類悪を嗤う必要悪。
ささやかな平和を築くための安全機構。
無記名の礎を覚えている者はいない。

From Angya's Bond CE. He's a "necessary evil" and a safety mechanism. He's the opposite of an opponent of humanity.

>>175153253
Not relevant, she used the curse of the grail when she was alive. She had some kind of link to it, and the only cursed grail we know about is the SN one that was corrupted by Angra Mainyu.

>>175153319
Aren't you forgetting the Strange Fake nuke?

TM IS NOT CANON

>>175153369
>when she was alive.
So in Camelot? There you go, it has nothing to do with Angra Mainyu.

>>175153265
>It feels like a BLfag who's out of touch and his meme theories definitely don't matter anymore so now all he can do is sperg out here
Mike?
>>175153331
Their talking about Grail mud not him being a beast

>>175153403
Wasn't Mike a Sakurafag? Feels more like that fallacies bloke.

>>175153436
Yes that why I said him although I'm 40% jokeing