/svg/ - Shadowverse General

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This is Medusa, a mythological Greek monster. Say something nice to her!

>>175078992
looks like me

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>Yuito Kimura: The game will be a lot slower than now and it will take more turns to finish the game, so different cards will see more play compared to the current environment.

IGN: The reactions to some of the card reveals online have been pretty crazy. Heavenly Aegis and Lightning Blast, for instance.

>Yuito Kimura: But once you actually play those cards, you realise that they aren’t as super strong as you expected them to be.

IGN: We’ve seen the whole set now. Which cards, specifically, do you think are going to most shake up the meta?

>Yuito Kimura: Definitely Blood Moon – it’ll shake up the meaning of Vengeance. I personally think it’s a little bit too strong. Another card is Captain Lecia from Swordcraft.

>>175078992
you're waifu is shit

>>175078992
I want to show her my snake

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Reminder to play Storm Haven once maintenance ends.

>>175078992
I want to sniff her crotch

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Be honest, how many of you are gonna buy the SFV leaders?

>>175078870
>>175078992
>>175078885
>,
>page 7
Newfaggotry. I bet you're befriend with Vampy shiyers

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>>175079026
>cygames
>having any idea of what they are doing
choose one and only one

1st – 1000th Players:
1 Seer’s Globe
20 upcoming card pack tickets
5,000 vials

1001st – 10,000th Players:
10 upcoming card pack tickets
2500 vials

Increasing it from top 1k to top 10k is really cool but the rewards are much worse. They should change the vials into rupies.

>>175079086
*shitters

>>175079081
You can only buy them with real money, right?
None then, because I'm not going to spend a fucking dime on this trash game.

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>Swap to Vengeance Vampire
>42 wins 7 Loss vs Dragon
>12 wins 25 loss vs Necro

Is the winrate by depending on matchup supposed to be this retarded?
I hope they nerf necros only lmao

>>175079072
Im going to play only shadow and rush a bit more to masters since i want to try and get those top 1k rewards.
Grinding only dailies is not as efficient as a f2p

>>175079216
Dragon is not as strong as people think. They only need to nerf shadow desu.

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>>175079026
So does that mean they did not playtest at all?

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>>175079164
>2500 vials
>can't even craft a single legendary with it
>this is for your monthly effort

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Guess the card

>>175079262
>I'm only going to play a cancerous tier 1 deck wow look at me guys i totally deserve to be at masters

>>175079026
>But once you actually play those cards, you realise that they aren’t as super strong as you expected them to be.
kimura confirmed for dragoncuck

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>>175079164
>upcoming card pack tickets

>>175079367
Im worried about being efficient and grinding.
If i wanted fun i would farm STORIES in rngstone.

>>175079357
mordecai

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>>175079349
they playtest with ACTUAL cards

>>175079284
they are strong once you let them get past turn 6~, but vengenace vamp is so fast jesus

once they nerf nec/dragon I'm 99% sure Veng will be tier1 unless Witch rises

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>Blood will be T1 as soon as Shadow is nerfed
feels good man

>>175079357
nep nep

>>175079284
Shadow only real problem is Catacomb. Dragon needs a lot more nerfs.

>>175079357
Imperial Mammoth.

>>175078898
>>175079281

>>175079357
Isaneph

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>>175079473
>tierwhore bandwagoner is also a hsgshitter
How surprising.

>>175079636
Its useless anon. I never did touch heaven since i started and it wont be now that i will do it.

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>ranking reward
>mfw ranked match will fill with more tryhard Shadownigger

JUST FUCKING END IT

>>175079351
>needing effort to be at 10000th
You easily get to 6000th by just grinding that 12k.

>>175079556
>Drop Zell t2
>This removes AotW
>Drop Aiela t3
>She removes Maid leader after you Salamander Grimnir
>Then she can be evo'd into Albert + Salamander in the exact same way you did.
>Except you have 3 more health now

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>>175079357

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>>175079543
one of hector's abilities should be nerfed or moved to 9 mana 2bh

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Also reminder that Eris is young and fertile.

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>>175079026
>blood moon

It did do wonders only in the first week

>>175079284
Nah 13 damage to face at turn 7 is retarded no matter how you slice it. I hope they make less damage from hand options and give imporance to board contol. Bonecraft was a good idea just overtuned.

>>175079528
Which Blood? Tfw Blood right now is being played with a lot of different decks and win conditions and they are all strong and interesting, confirming that it's the god-tier craft

>>175079829
If she is fertility why do I still a lonely unsatisfied faggot?

>>175079775
That's only for Masters, scrubs like you don't need to care.

>>175079775
You mean just like last time with everyone going Diarrhea and roach since no nerfs?

>>175079817
Hector is nothing without shadows and board. Catacomb provides both.

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>>175078992
A cute weapon

>>175080118
>Catacomb provides both.
Zombie Party provide.l, Breath provide. Early game provide. Shadow is guarantee to have Shadows for anything they'll ever need.

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>>175079903
I have a Vengeance-Storm vampire doing really well atm

but if ur goal is going up the ladder (To Master) just play aggro for faster games

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>maintenance for 9 hours
>isn't even going to nerf shadow or dragon cards
Today felt like an erp day anyway.

>>175080118

>Requires board
>It produces zombies that have 4 attack and rush

Fucking dumbass shadow players are so bad at the game they can't even comprehend how good their cards are.

>>175080271
Why are you playing in gook?

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>>175079509
>they playtest with ACTUAL cards
Then why did KMR say Blood Moon and Lecia are OP but ignore Shadow, even though just a bit of testing would show how ridiculous Catacomb is?

>>175080243
>Shadow is guarantee to have Shadows for anything they'll ever need
Try playing a Nep deck and see how the shadow situation usually is. Both death breath and zombie party get cleared by removals and without catacomb they don't leave skeleton behind.

>>175080303
>literally 7PP do nothing without a board
>good
Stop being an idiot.

>>175080118
It does but even at 2 zombie summons Hector is overloaded in his kit 2bh

>>175080372
i am gook

>>175080380
maybe they were too lazy with flipping skeleton tokens every gam
or were testing minthe OTK decks only

>>175080443
Except for the 12 power of zombies clearing out any board your opponent might have had

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>>175080271
I've been playing Mastema midrange with a lot of success, I wish I could put Yurius in place of something

>>175080303
Just like Otohimeme provides board right?
He's better because he give rush true, but you can't play him twice in a row if your first one is removed because no shadows.
You just never see a catacomb-less shadow nowadays so you don't know how important he is.

>>175080303
>coveniently ignores the "needs shadows" part

>>175080505
>it's easy to have 12 shadows by turn 7 only to get it wiped by a grimnir
Nice 7PP.

>>175079903
>the god-tier craft
I've be saying that since DE but unlike vampy shitter as a Havenfag I know what was up with that craft. I only didn't play Blood from the start of TOS just because I don't have the legos for it.

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>>175080380
Because it's just a few people and some of them likely have a specific strategy that they prefer.
Sword Girl Lecia probably consistently shredded whoever their control haven cuck is.

>tfw she'll never sneak you past Johnny Depp and into her quarters.

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>>175079164
>20 upcoming card pack tickets
Can I make top 10000 /svg/?
I really want those tickets and Olivia deserves to be shiny.

>>175080427
Kill yourself. Who's talking about Nep? Anything other than Aggro and pseudo Aggro isn't relevant.

>>175079026
>let's introduce all those super powerful late game cards
>people just go face early to not get wrecked by them

>>175080380
>1/1 is too OP
Welp lets cry for them to nerf quickblader then. He has charge!

>>175080604

>Grimnir wipes out a 5/6 body

How decent would a vengeance blood deck be if I only had 2 Belphegors and Soul Dealers?

Okay, /svg/, suppose you get top 1k what Legendary card are you gonna spend globe seers on?
>Inb4 not making animated Satan, the only real choice

>>175080646
Bandwagoners don't recognize people, anon.

>>175079164
>ONE SEER'S GLOBE
WOW

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>>175080796
Day of the burglar dick soon, lolislut.

>>175080380
they have like 20 people doing the playtesting, they're never, ever going to spot shit

and since cygames trusts them because they're "seasoned card game players" or some crap like that

>>175080747
Because Nep is the only Shadow deck that doesn't play Catacomb, if you take him out of Aggro and Midrange they would be starving for shadows, too.

>>175080747
Can't you fucking read? Nep doesn't run catacomb which is why she struggles with shadows like crazy until turn 8 or so. You don't even have enough for death breath a lot of the time.
Midrange and aggro run catacomb so they have 10 shadows by turn 5.
Your fucking kill yourself arguments are getting fucking old, you assblasted retard.

>>175080914
Well, that's one animated legendary of your choice instead of Zeus.

>>175080890
The one which is impossible to get animated in the first place
Ta-G

>>175080890
AE since she's the most plain.

>>175081004
No. Even Cerberus provides Shadows with Coco and Mimi.

>>175080427
He's still right on that part.
You can't let shadow have a board because Hector deletes your face if you do.
And every time you clear the board, they make a new one that you have to answer
Worse yet is that all this time they keep generating shadows that eventually they can afford to use Hector as their 9th boardflood and still have shadows for the next one.
You need recurring boardclear to deal with Shadow, the closest thing we have is fucking Deathmist dragon with a crystal or two.

>>175079897
If you let them freely ramp. Storm Haven, Blood and Shadow deal with dragon pretty easily.

>>175081008
You idiot. Nep doesn't FUCKING play board FLOOD early game. Of course they'll lack followers to generate shadows.

>>175081079
>cerb
Wow it's fucking nothing

>>175081079
OK. Go actually play some shadow WITHOUT catacomb and then come back.
Sure you will have enough shadow for hector maybe, but then it means you can't play lolisquisher or death's breath until then.

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>>175080813
>attacking into a 2/3 ward with a 5/2
Nice.

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>>175081115
>you need to tech for board clears
>but I absolutely REFUSE to use the 2nd best neutral board clear in the game or angelic barrage

What did he meme by this?

>>175081272
Nobody falls for the lolisquisher anymore.

>>175081376
So nobody evolves followers anymore? That's nice to know.

>>175081079
your point being? cerberus provides 3 shadows by herself while catacomb multiplies the shadows your board produces by two.

he's the sole reason shadow basically has infinite shadows right now and why early trades against shadow are ALWAYS unfavorable

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>>175081326
>using lucius when you get free harnessed flames which is also 3pp

>>175081376
>nobody evolves turn 4 in a desperate bid to stop the onslaught of calcified memery
Bullshit. Ballsquasher is like Themis. You have to play into it unless you're playing control.

>>175080959
>seasoned card game players
How do you even interview for them. What they got were seasoned actors who are best at pretending like business as usual.

>>175081326
Lucius is bad, you can only play him after a board clear to clean up skellies.
Everyone keeps focusing on clearing skellies while forgetting the zombies each time.

Also I mentioned RECURRING boardclear. Something that keeps clearing without exhausting your cards, it'd be the only way to outlast shadow.

Maybe something like
5pp neutral gold amulet, countdown 4
At the end of your turn deal 3 to all followers.

>>175080562
You should replace Veight with Grimnir.
t. someone who plays Mastema

>>175081132
It's just the concept of storm and board clears carrying the craft right now. They could have done so much more with ramping but nope. Here have a thing that goes face. It's the same issue with sword right now where it's boring to play since you just pick a follower that will give you the most value.

>>175081484
>flame
I'm retarded. Glass is the one

>>175080867
Get a third Belphegor and substitute the missing souldealer with baphomet.

>>175081427
I'd rather remove Hectar and Howl over him any day.

>>175081282
>Zombie party doesn't exist
>He can't have more than 1 Hector, he'd brick all the time

>>175079556
Assuming he goes full unga and ignores trades:

>turn 2 (20hp) Play Zell
>turn 3 (20->18hp) Trade Zell into Maid, Play Aiela
>turn 4 (18->16hp) Salamander Grimnir and Angel, evolve aiela go face with both
>turn 5 (16->11hp) Heal to 14hp with fervor, Evolve Zell and trade both into albert
>turn 6 (14->8hp) Saha->Isra clears second albert
>turn 7 (8->5hp) Healed to 9hp with Isra, evolve her to clear albert+maid

In theory he could have traded maid + angel ping into zell but he was likely going for the quick kill before you ramped.

>>175081648
>zombie party
>another grimnir
>another zombie party
>bahamut
>another zombie party
>grimnir for lethal

GG no rematch.

>>175081536
So man eater grove?
But of course nobody will play it because "muh deck optimization" and "b-but it's useless against dragon". Just like Haven players who refuse to tech ritual then cry when their themis spawns skeletons.

In how many hours maintance ends?

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>>175078992
I want her butt on and around my face.

>>175081536
>let's make an absolutely broken card because one deck is bullying me hard

Now where have I seen this before? Looks like a graduate of the dragon school of balance.

Why are people defending Shadow again? Isn't it common knowledge by now that they're obscenely overpowered? Their worse matchup is mirror.

>>175081882
8 more from now.

>>175081771
I played against it one time. I just dropped 2 reapers and let my skeletons kill themselves

>>175081638
MidShadow lists can work just fine without Howl and Eachtar is nothing without a sticky board/shadows.

Anyone who wouldn't nerf Catacomb is retarded.

>>175081907
Nobody is defending it though. People saying it how it is. Catacomb IS carrying shadow right now.

>>175078992

I want to look exactly like her.

>>175081771
I tried it some time ago.
Found out that it's all about timing it.
Even if you time it perfeclty, you end up delaying the inevitable and letting him catacomb up, or just get smacked by X/3 followers
>>175081889
Feel free to tune the numbers as you see fit, it's a suggestion for design of a card, not balancing.

Hector would be balanced by itself if Orthrus was nerfed alongside Catacomb, or move one of Hectar's effects to 9 mana

The problem is Shadow decks don't even use much Shadow until Hector unless you want to remove an evolved card for (4) (four) shadow only.
Another thing is the comparison is made with ramp dragon prenerf, seeing that a nec nerf goes through a dragon nerf will go as well, other classes without proper removal will be losing the board especially against a deck like shadow, and at least 2 mana away from grim or proper aoe

>>175081983
There's a reason midshadow is so much better than aggro. Eachtar takes bone shenanigans to greater heights.

People aren't actually going to play some dude in a costume over a cute girl like Luna, are they?

>>175082115
>The problem is Shadow decks don't even use much Shadow until Hector unless you want to remove an evolved card for (4) (four) shadow only.
Yeah, they should give Shadow a 6 drop that uses, say, 6 shadows to compete with Shadow generation for Eachtar. That might help a bit.

>>175082109
The problem with an amulet like that is that it will completely kill all but storm decks, which is retarded.
The opposite equivalent would be making an amulet that makes all your dudes immune to spell damage and effects for the duration.

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>>175082139
Of course not.

>prince catacomb only buffs himself necromancy 2: buff other followers
>zombie party enhance 7pp necromancy 6: spawn 3 zombies.
There I fixed shadow.

>>175081907

Shadow is so good because of meta. It's the only craft that can consistently beat dragon.

Dragon and Aegis are the real problem. They made too many decks worthless.

>>175082207
So Death's Breath?
Also don't forget that catacomb also provides food for reaper. Before him I could barely get my reapers to 4 strength before getting removed, now 6-7 is norm.

>>175081547
Because he'll be sturdier and not get removed by stuff like Whole-Souled Swing as a 3 drop? Other tips?

>>175082340
Nice falseflag.

>>175082126
Exactly. Kill Catacomb and you'll be able to somehow control the board so their Eachtar doesn't get full value. People here will disagree with this but they should nerf Catacomb by at least 2pp to be completely fair.

Every other board flood shadow has come after turn 5 where most classes have their board clears online, and they're just a bunch of x/2 at most which is completely fine to me.
If Zombie Party is considered overpowered like some people say here then Otohime is most certainly good as well.

>>175080867
I run a deck with 2 of each of them.... it's okayish.

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>Nep nec 54% winrate
>No catacomb

umm??? svg????

>>175082652
You literally can't win a game with nep right now

>>175082340
>what's Dshift
>what's Seraph
Baito

>>175081771
But forest decks do run it now. It cucks forte so hard they concede

>>175080867
I use 3 belly ghouls, two soul dealers, and two baphomets.
It still bricks an ungodly amount of the time on account of no turn 4 vengeance.
You need 3 belphegors and 3 soul dealers or your deck is going to feel awful.

Reminder to rope every SF leader from now on until we get a way to hide them

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>Wake up
>Maintenance

:thinking:

also

>1 month long global tournament starting soon
>golden week holiday next week

This or next week is literally the only chance for cygames to save their game. Will they do it?

>>175082254
There is already some counterplay to such an amulet
Lecia, Liza, Sonia(Bad example I know)
I suppose for balance sake you could make it at the start of the turn so don't get as much control over it, but then it loses it's immediate impact and may turn into Turn5 do nothing.

>>175082652
>low sample size
>1/4th of ladder is dragon and most are forsaking LB
>haven can't hold a candle to shadow right now
I think this sums it up, correct me if I'm wrong

>login after work to do dailies
>maintenance until tomorrow

no rupies for me i guess

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Looking at shadowlog ramp dragon has 50.5% winrate and storm ramp has 58.1% (I assume the first one is Saha combo deck and the other Forte Genesis deck).
Is storm ramp actually good? I know these are self reported stats and storm has a smaller sample size but still... I wanna hear an honest opinion from someone who plays it.

>>175083121
Aegis and Seraph still absolutely destroy Nep. Nobody plays Nep because midrange is just infinitely better and all it takes is a simple LB tech to stop it. Same reason Seraph died.
Cygames intended to kill Nep this expansion and they've succeeded.

>>175083242
How can aegis destroy nep when nep has wards up the ass to fuck aegis over

>>175083242
dragon don't beat neph even with 3 ligh blast and 3 odins and 3 draconification

>>175081053
>>175080914
>>175079164
How much longer do we have?
I NEED top 1k so I can get my sweet animated Miko.

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Design a "5 mana do everything" cancer lego akin to albert and sibyl.
Hardmode: It has to look somewhat balanced on paper.

>>175083307
Sure it doesn't.

>>175082609
I would still rather have Eachtar nerfed. For months we've been joking that this game has become removalverse. Now we have a deck that can actually maintain its board presence and I don't want that part of its identity getting hit. I suggest nerfing Orthus and Eachtar.

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>>175083242
>implying

>>175083307
You're delusional

>>175083297
Themis/removal through them. You only need 2 hits.

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>>175080738
>top 10000
read again, nigga.

>>175083297
And haven has removal up the ass to destroy said wards.

>>175083163
Think about it for a second. How does dragon lose? They get overpowered by Aggro shadow, Stormhaven, Suicide blood, even midrange shadow in the first 6 turns. What for cards will you see if you win against dragon? Sibyl, Aiela, Grimnir, Rahab. If you win against those cards where will you file your win against? Against normal ramp and not storm ramp even though storm ramp runs the exact same early game cards.
You only storm when you have control of the game. So storm ramp winrate will be naturally higher.

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>>175083242
>Aegis destroys nep
How
This was with him using 2 tests of strength

>>175083447
>>175083467
no you are

>Maybe something like
>5pp neutral gold amulet, countdown 4
>At the end of your turn deal 3 to all followers.

You want Haven to become more I N T E R A C T I V E than it already is? The more you enable I N T E R A C T I V E Havencraft the more you enable I N T E R A C T I V E Dshift because it counters it.

>>175083405
Havencraft
5pp 4/4 rush
Fanfare: summon a tribunal of good and evil

>>175083568
It creates more like Thane.

>>175083405

5 mana
4/5
Rush
Whenever X attacks, draw a card. If vengeance is active for you, play it.
Evolve:
6/7

Is the shitters opinion time?

>>175083719
>thane in Nep

>>175083453
Well I guess that's one way to look at it.

>>175083641
>Octobishop
>seraph and aegis
Beginner rank?

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>maintenance time
>not a single sad panda has been posted
Fucking shit general

https://exhentai.org/g/1054055/583ddc30f5/

>>175083121
>>1/4th of ladder is dragon and most are forsaking LB
it feels like every dragon i go against always has a LB on t10

>>175083405
Hagcraft 5pp 2/4, heal yourself for 3. Whenever you get healed this gets +1/+1. If it's your only creature, gets ward.

>>175083641
>seraph
>octopus man
>turn 10+ still have evo points
Also 2578 Nep is a meme.

>>175083873
needs to summon a pegasus statue with it

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>>175083828
>aegis and seraph absolutely destroy Nep
>nep beats both
>haha begginer rank!

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>>175083828
>implying
Not him but seems that there's some bots running around in Masters.

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>>175083846
Fuck off weeb. We are having healthy discussion here. Don't ruin it with your degenerate porn.

>>175083405
>5pp runecraft lego
>Howard the magical horse
>4/5->6/7
>Fanfare: Copies the fanfare effect of a follower in your hand

>>175083641
Nice pic, now post all the times you've lost.

>>175084019
We can compromise. Let's have a healthy discussion about which leader you would like to impregnate the most. The correct answer is Luna, by the way.

>>175083609
Huh, okay thanks. Then why are people complaining about dragon so much and demanding a Zell nerf when midrange shadow is the only deck with a very high winrate?

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>>175083846
https://exhentai.org/g/1019519/0d9387fdcf/
https://exhentai.org/g/588971/52b0651727/
https://exhentai.org/g/1001082/06a1662c35/
https://exhentai.org/g/946656/79043aff0d/
https://exhentai.org/g/969450/35f1294a56/
https://exhentai.org/g/1004014/2579fb5e16/
https://exhentai.org/g/881967/08118393bf/
https://exhentai.org/g/1019519/0d9387fdcf/
https://exhentai.org/g/651877/72c5389913/

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>>175083846
I dont know what I was expecting

>>175084108
because luna is qt asshole

>>175084108
Because zell is fucking broken and shouldn't exist you fucking dragonigger

>>175083992
>0 points masters
Literally worse than B0

>>175084108
Because you need to play more and get SahaBahaZelled on turn 6.

>>175084108
Go on shadowlog, click on that "lamp dragon" and tell me the winrates of dragon against other classes.

Now you understand why the non-shadow/non-dragon part of this general want both to get fucked.

>>175084108
Because it's not hard for the dragon to nutdraw into oracle into fervor into welcometoyourdoom10pp.

>>175084250
>you fucking dragonigger
I've literally played dragon one (1) time outside arena.

>>175084357
No no no. All the stats reported for storm dragon are WRONG and skewed and misreported. Dragon literally does nothing for 6 turn so every aggro deck wins against it easily.

>>175083405
Swordcraft:
4/4
Cannot be banished, destroyed or damaged during the opponent's turn.
Enhance 10: gain +4/+4 and ward

>>175079829
Puffy!

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>>175084108
Dragoncraft are the only ones that DONT go for 1/2/3/4drops in their opening hand and actually get rewarded for it
>people think passing 5 turns and then winning because all their play is board clears is completely fine and doesnt deserve any changes

>>175084108
Current Ramp Dragon is like a deck created by a toddler for toddlers. It's so utterly braindead and stupid to play against that it makes Midshadow look like a thinking man's deck.

>Support Canon can be fun and op
>cant use it because its a turn 5 do nothing
>cant be used against storm decks
I just want to have 25 of life...

>>175084410
And it still has 50.5% winrate, seems fair.

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I haven't done my dailies in a week. I feel so liberated.

>>175084487
>Dragon literally does nothing for 6 turn so every aggro deck wins against it easily.
This is mostly true, but Dragon fucking rapes anything that's not aggro to make up for it.

>>175084731
yet you're still shitposting on a mongolian art forum

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>>175083405
5pp
Havencraft lego
3/4 -> 5/6
fanfare: put amulets from your deck on the table until table is full, then destroy them

>>175084546
>running out of cards
>still being alive vs dragon at that point

literally how

did you play 3xmelvie AND 3xdaria?

>>175084856
>turn 3 Rahab
>turn 4 Sybil
>turn 5 Salamander
>turn 6 sahabahazell

Absolutely nothing.

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>>175084962
>turn 4 sybil
Alright Rowen, you won.

>>175084129
You listed one of those twice.

>>175084856
if dragon gets oracle into rahab it becomes much trickier for aggro do deal with it. the ones that have the easiest time against that curve is kys blood and shadow afaik

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>>175083846
>not a single sad panda
Sorry I only fap to Eris on /svg/

>>175084962
turn 4 Sybil is bad. The proper play is turn 4 Draconic Fervor, then turn 5 Sybil into whatever bullshit to instantly win the game.

>>175083405
5PP 4/5
Fanfare: All allied followers gain "Last Word: Gain 2 shadows" and will be destroyed instead when being banished. All other allied followers that come into play will be destroyed instead when being banished.

>>175084885
>nep for havencraft
That would be cool but they need to make sure it doesn't summon seraph until turn 8 like death's ledger.

>>175085114
They always have 3 damage removal, or 3/evolve follower in the board to deal with Rahab.

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>>175085183
I wish people would make and upload Eris doujins.

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>>175083846
Anon please, i NEED some cute maids doujins, because i cant make a maidcraft yet!

>>175084906
Only 2 Melvies. Its dirtrune and we both played board clears plus I've been banishing his ouroboros and petrifying/mutagen bolting his shit for over 20 turns
I had a full board of zombies and guardian golems at least 8 times
>hurr salamander
>hurr lightning blast
>durrgrimnir
>hurpdurp conflagration
>herpderp wrath drake

>>175085365
Maid leader and snippy rose gardner are the only two followers in maid uniforms, aren't they?

>>175085114
But that's a dream scenario, Dragon can't always have T2 Oracle and aggro will still be more consistent because of how they are built.

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>>175085365
Here you go, friendo.

https://exhentai.org/g/1016355/302513df25/

>>175083405
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINMIRUG
neutral lego
3pp
2/2 ward
enhance (5): restore 1 defense to all your allies 4 times

>>175085451
there's Seria and Swordwhip

>>175085451
There´s more, but you cant make an almost full maid deck.

>>175085365
I love this one https://exhentai.org/g/1031506/00abf27bc1/

>>175085365
>butler card finally
>it's in fucking forestcraft
maybe Latham should have been a battle butler instead of a mouth breather

>>175084129
What anime is this?

>>175085578
Haven OTK? deal 2 damage to your opponent 8 times @ 9 mana

>>175085578
Thanks balance-kun my elana deck sure loves its new addition of 16/16 aegis without even evolving it!

>>175085578
HOLY BOW

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>>175085578
>plays 2 kels
>drops this

>>175085720
renai boukon

>>175085578
>5 mana 6/6 ward on curve
Please don't fund this.

>>175085578
>enhance(5)
absolute madman

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Why do they keep giving forest garbage shit like this?
Dragon, shadow, blood, and haven all have 2pp 3 damage removal spells(rune too if you count wind blast).
Every one has some other great benefit too.
Razory can go face and put you in vengeance.
Zombie party can summon 3 2/2s.
Salamander can board wipe.
Scripture banishes.

All the while spellbomb only does 2 face damage if you play 2 cards before.
WHAT THE FUCK IS CYGAMES THINKING?

>CaC retards shitting up the thread again
Disgusting.

>>175085578
Hired

>>175086151
What's CaC

>>175086150
Let's just pretend Sylvan Justice doesn't exist, fucking forestnigger.

>>175079081
Leader skins aren't even close to being worth ~$10 a pop. For the bundle cost you just buy multiple full games that aren't shit. I still might get Bison.

>>175086150
there was an anon while back who actually had a rare nugget of wisdom in regards to forest cards, but basically it's due to the fact that cygames designed them to be only on-par with other craft cards if they get the combo bonus off, instead of it actually being a bonus.

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>>175084731
Why tough?

>>175086321
It's 2 damage, fuckface.

>>175086150
They aren't allowed to print good cards for Forest until AE and Roach are rotated out.

>>175086150
>homecoming can punish greedy decks in a way that no other craft can even dream of doing
And you can still do more than 15 damage easily with your roach
Eat shit you retarded nigger

>>175086150
A lot of 3-4 damage spells came from RoB because there was no other way of dealing with a big fat Ancient Elf in the early game.
Forestfucks have no one to blame but themselves

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>Takoyaki of cygames just confirmed on the JP blog that they are working on a kanna collab as a new dragon leader

Holy shit

>>175084563
>Ramp dragon
>braindead
C1?

>>175086453
And gives you a Fairy to enable whatever degenerate shit you are gonna do next.

>>175086542
Why would they rotate standard cards?

>>175086383
This pretty much. That and fairy token generation being way too expensive on most cards.

>>175086542
>two Zeus into one card
>not good
Jungle is the definition of powercrap. 5pp following that also turns into fucking 2 body Storm follower with Ward! Then there's that Elf which heals up to 20, 20 health!

>>175083405
Heaven's true blessing
Havencraft amulet
5PP
Countdown(6)
Fanfare: Restore 6 health to your leader
Last word: summon a Heavenly Aegis

Gold rarity

>>175086664
because they would rather rotate the entire standard set out than nerf roach

>>175086441
Stale, shitty meta. Went from playing pretty regularly to only playing for dailies to only logging in for the bonus.

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>>175086634

>>175086634
Nobody cares about that shitty fotm anime anymore.

>>175086634
Kanna isnt even a dragon but a glorified wyvern/oversized lizard
Tohru is a real dragon

>>175086634
nice bait, but where's the link

>>175086634
source?

>>175086639
It is pretty braindead. But not more or less so than 90% of decks in this game.

>>175086639
>ramp dragon is not braindead
hahaha what the fuck

>>175086639
>hurr I lightning blasted 2 of his wards and won with my evolved ouroboro on turn 7!

Dragon is the definition of a retard-friendly craft.

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>>175087158
Every craft that's not Forest is the definition of a retard-friendly craft.

>>175087243
finally someone who actually knows what they're talking about here

>>175087158
That's the other way around. Dragon is for people who just gathered some random cards to have fun with lot of card options.

>>175087243
>this is what roachfuckers actually believe

>>175087243
Even retards know the answer to 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
Look it up

>>175087243
>the craft of former PtP retards
>not braindead
Wopps I gonna lose XD Just altered fate it!

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>>175086641
That's not the point. The point is almost every craft has a 2pp 3 damage spell with some other benefit. While ivy you have to spend 2 more pp just to get a added mediocre effect of 2 face damage.
Its 5pp 3 damage to a follower and 2 face damage, DoD is strictly better.
Or it could be a 3pp 3 damage spell.
What a fucking joke, it should have been 2pp 3 damage and do 3 face damage if 2 cards were played. Then it "might" be playable.

>>175087243
>roach math is hard

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>>175086634
Tanya runecraft
Akko Shadowcraft
Lalatina Swordcraft

Lightning Blast is such a badly designed card because it's a get out of jail free card.
Opponent has a huge board? Lightning Blast
Opponent has Seraph? Lightning Blast
Opponent protecting themselves from huge as fuck dragons with wards? Lightning Blast
_________ ? Lightning Blast

Already we have to deal with Haven and their triple themis into wincon bullshit. Stop passing that cancer around to other classes.

>>175087363
>>175087438
>>175087448
>>175087560
Not even trying to say Forest is hard, but it's retard-with-basic-math-skills-friendly. This game all just comes down to having a better or worse curve than your opponent.

>>175087723

It's only going to get worse.

They don't know how to handle powercreep, suck at balancing, and are making decks more expensive with every expansion.

Abandon ship now, you won't regret it. The game cannot recover.

>>175087723
Lightning blast would literally be fine if it lightning blasted the entire board. Its bullshit how they can just drop bahamut and get a free win no matter what you play against it

>>175087723
>10PP do nothing
Yeah, amazing card.

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When is the maintenance gonna be over?

>>175087723
Lighting Blast is 6pp/10pp removal tool with potential of bricking. You can't remove shit with that cost. Wasring turn 6, 7, 8 to remove one follower unable to do anything also is suicide.

>>175087882
I'll give it until the next expansion to see if this shit keeps up. Mainly because there's nothing fucking else worth playing at the moment.

>>175087951
5 mins

>>175087945

>Banishes the entire enemy board immediately so you can't even use last words effects

Stop fucking using the term "do nothing" if you have no fucking clue what it means you ignorant fuck. This simple children's mobile card game is above you, just sit in a fucking corner and lurk.

>>175087723
Aegis :^)

>>175087882
I'm giving them one more chance. If deck costs rise again and we have 60%+ WR decks again I'm done.

>>175087982
>removal
>bricking
>dragon that runs a grand total of 4 cards that cost less than 5
????
???????

>>175088068
So nothing should counter you? 10pp my man, 10pp.
>Lighting Blast just destroy
>actually help opponent's amulets and last words
Do you see how retarded this sounds?

>>175088174
Grimnir
Zell
Oracle
Blazing Breath
Salamander Breath
Aiela
Emissary

>>175088257
You would've had a point if you didn't have 10pp by turn 6.

what would you say on HANDSOFTHEGRAVES for haven than protects amulets?

>>175088528
>implying haven needs anti-banishment when they're the only craft in the game with amulets that have last words on them

Guys I need to climb from A to master's in like 1 week
Even with the most cancer-est mid shadow it doesn't seem doable

>>175088528
It would need a pretty big body for that to be good.
If I see a card like that on turn 7, I know the Seraph is going to be dropped on turn 8 so I would do everything I can to remove it.

>>175088528
kys

>>175088528
"fuck off"

>>175088174
Be it turn 6 7 8 or 9 playing Lighting Blast just to remove one thing aka doing nothing is disadvantageous, especially against Shadow. You keep it in your hand till turn 10, or to kill Ouroboros mirrors.

>>175086150
>elven archery
>sword to woodland
>ivy spellbomb
>hey guys new expansion is on the pipeline what is the 3pp useless spell for forest this time?

>>175088528
D-d-don't touch that!

They might be on to something with the game design limiting long games. Control in HS goes on for fucking forever.

>>175088724
Aggro Shadow is faster and better for climbing.

>>175089424
Devs stated that they don't want long games because MUH COMMUTERS.

>>175088528
How about we remove just remove Lightning blast. Bahamut was already a mistake, putting a banish that just dicks out other control decks is just the cherry on top.

>>175089591

Another reason this game is absolutely doomed.

You will never get to have long, decision heavy games where you try to eek out value over the long term by making better decisions that your opponent.

You will forever be at the mercy of your first ~7 cards and will almost never make a decision that matters.

>maintenance until 9pm
>doesn't say what timezone it is
shadowbabs??

>>175089782
6 hours left

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>>175089732
>You will forever be at the mercy of your first ~7 cards
This is what i'm really starting to fucking hate about this game. It's become even more apparent since TotG.

>>175089732
>>175089934
You can only blame Haven and forest for this. Your chances of winning lategame are nonexistant the moment seraph and roachniggery was added

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>>175089732
this game is automated as fuck, I sit at absurd winrate through AA because my deckbuilding averages out better than the copycat shit that's on ladder not because I make good decisions in matches, the game is startinmg to lose me

>>175090135
What decks do you play?

>>175090095

Don't blame any single class. Every class has or will have ridiculous face damage abilities and win conditions,

Just hate the developer for ruining a game with potential.

>>175089714
You're absolutely retarded. Nep and every other deck, including Seraph and current Shadow would come back from the dust and the last one would become 400% unbeatable.

>>175090135
If you had an absurd winrate wouldn't you be in masters?

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How is Faeria?

>>175090095
>complaining about Seraph
I would agree with you if you said Aegis. Seraph is such a joke now. Any good control deck ran counters to it anyways.

>>175090256
If they could, hypothetically, meaningfully impact Lightning Blast, what makes you think they couldn't also balance other issues with the game?

>>175088528
Just delete Odin and LB.

>>175090209
Albert didnt exist in DE and swords only lategame was otomeme buffing,Forte was added but dragon didnt have infinite healing,>>>shadow, dshift bullshitery was there but roach and haven shit on them

>>175089732
Grinder decks are a fucking chore to play against. You don't have to be in a situation where only your starting hand matters because of late game bombs, it all depends on how you design your cards.

Besides, I don't know about you people, but a lot of my games go way beyond 10pp for me, specially with Shadow and Dragon but they just have value out of their asses compared to other classes. The only "bad" wincons in this game for that matter, at least in my opinion, are Dshift and Aegis(+ToS).

>>175090296
Literally who?

>>175090296
Let's you keep unspent mana for the next turn, which is retarded. You can be 5 minutes into the match and still don't know what deck your opponent is playing.

>>175090618
That sounds interesting though

>>175090296
Here's a piece of advice, there's no online CCG that's actually good, all you're doing is picking between different varieties of shit, so just play whatever.

>>175090352
Because they aren't gonna touch lighting blast in the first place. Because they can't nerf 4 different decks and legendaries.

>>175090690
No, it sounds degenerate.

>>175090792
We're just theorycrafting, I don't think anyone seriously believes these changes are going to happen.

Elder Scrolls:Legends, Gwent, Eternal, Krosmaga or Faeria.

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Thoughts?

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>>175090751
(You)

>>175091064
Discord

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I'm glad Shadowverse doesn't have cards that require you to pause the game for 10 minutes to make sure you understand what it even does

>>175091064
Slut.

>>175091079
Point of where he's wrong.

>>175091106
t. brainlet
his effect is pretty simple

>>175091106
Owlcat

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Thoughts??

>>175091079
Show me a good one.

>>175091282
Which one? Because there's like 4.

>>175091106
people pause for 10 minutes when you play tos with aegis on the field :^)

>>175091275
I enjoy playing Shadowverse and think it is good. I won't lie, Dragon pisses me off, but I still have fun when I don't get crushed by turn 5 Israfils.

>>175091282
Explain what it does, you can't. It's over, cucklet.

>>175090994
>ES:L
No clue.
>Gwent
Awful and looks like it's going to be dead in the water.
>Eternal
It's not bad but it's fucking dead. Like dead dead.
>Krosmaga
Never played but it's by Ankama. That's enough for you to know to stay far away.
>Faeria
Early access. I'd wait a bit before trying to get invested in it, might never take off.

>>175090994
None of them.

>>175091329
Salamander

>>175091412
I still enjoy playing SV somewhat but I have no problems admitting it's not good.

>>175091329
http://usamin.love/card/lucius_goblin_slayer/j_summon.wav

>>175091329
My wife

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>>175091590
Delete this right now you piece of shit or else they're going to beat you up.

What deck can I reliably climb through AA to master's with that is NOT 150k vial Dragon, Mid or Aggro Shadow?

Serious replies only.

>>175090095
t. D0
Last time I checked csword is very good against forest. Wards are good vs roach who would have thought? These whiny control faggots are really retarded.

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>>175091718
>what decks should I climb with except the best deck to climb with

>>175091718
Vengeance or aggro blood

>>175091718
Midsword, kys blood, various forest decks.

>>175091459
>Eternal
>It's not bad but it's fucking dead. Like dead dead.
This. I kinda like the game but holy shit, wait almost an entire minute for a match and just fight the same player you fought last time.