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>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/

/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password = /bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF

Reminder not to reply to tripfags.
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PURGE FILTH
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>inb4 vilecucks say they're redpilled
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What's he looking at, /bbg/?
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Vilebloods are super duper redpilled
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Game dead yet?
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>>174862631
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I got into this game really late, did everybody else already move on?
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Annalise is my queen and yours too!
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Bloodletting beast didn't seem nearly as cancer as loran darkbeast to me. Everything about the boss just made sense imo

Bear in mind I just did the story chalices
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>>174862878
You were saying?
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>2 Meme Machines
Truly an Insightful experience
>>174862878
Annalise is the head of the bourgeoisie, keeping the working class under her thumb by way of private security enforcers. Through the joining of a close-knit group of workers, a League if you will, an cooperation with local and foreign law enforcement elements sympathetic to the cause, namely constables, the yoke may be thrown off that the means of production may be seized from the wealthy elite and returned to the hands of the common hunter.
BB is actually Marxist propaganda, this is my new joke theory.
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>>174862915
The problem is the headless version of it on FRC, because you'll fight it a billion times trying to get a decent abyssal while it oneshots you with its australia sized hitboxes.

>when it walks up to you super fast and then stomps
>the hitbox on the elbow smash
>the vermin with its 0 startup charges
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The timeline at mensis is something like

>find yharnam
>she's preggo
>get third cord
>conduct mensis ritual
>mergo comes down and sticks them all in a nightmare
>the communication results in the "stillbirth of their brains" aka the mother brain
>micolash stays there howling and being a memester
>rom hides ritual which is still ongoing
>kill Rom
>ritual keeps going since mergo is still alive
>kill mergo and everything stops

That about right?
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@174863185
>he saved it
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strawpoll.me/12815088/

Remember to vote
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>>174863286
>mergo comes down and sticks them all in a nightmare
I thought they all entered the nightmare willingly since they're all dead in the same room.
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>>174863531
>kos
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>>174863731
You're goddamn right it's Kos you beastly idiot.
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>>174863731
Is the boss named Orphan of Kosm?
Is the weapon named Kosm Parasite?

I don't think so.
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>>174863731
>kosm
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>>174863776
yeah, kosM as in CosMos
>calling US beastly
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>>174863864
youre so deep i just wanna fuck you
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>>174863928
More like KosM as in KosMom where are my tendies because Kosmfags are all blathering autists.

>>174863864
This guy gets it.
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>>174864197
ur gay
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we've settled this dispute already
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>>174864459
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>>174862878
No, pretty sure Yharnam is my queen.
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Ahh, let us speak feverishly of...new ideas of a higher plane! The cosmos! Of course!
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>>174865414
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>>174862778
It's kind of a cult classic at this point.
Doesn't have any new installments or content, but I still know plenty of people that are still into it and talk about game play, lore, etc.
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can anyone help me with ludwig? ringing at fog door, pass is bbg
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>>174865636
>Doesn't have any new installments or content
>Old hunters dropped nov 2015
I guess its not "new"
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>>174866319
2fast
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>Micolash said "some said Kosm" without any hostility, it's just a thing
>anons go to war about it

baka
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>>174866639
yeah that was crazy fast, thanks anon
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Yahar'gul hunters are underrated and underrepresented. My next character going to be one, mark my words.
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>>174866907
lorefags get on it
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Is 40/10 vit/end with runes enough for lv98?
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getting online to procrastinate studying material science

anyone want to spelunk with me? i am weak and not gud
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>>174866907
Deer Gook Deer?
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>>174866907
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What are the best scaling SKL weapons for a 50 SKL build with little STR investment. BoM, Cane what else?
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Chikage users are transcendent ubermensch
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Please explain Mensis to me I am dumb
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>>174867396
rakuyo
burial blade
saif
I think you should get a little arc as well
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>>174867148
ye
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>>174867397
Chikage users are literal subhuman garbage and should be dragged out into the streets and shot.

t. Chikage user
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Anyone up for some fun co ops in Research Hall? Pass is bbg
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How much BLT for a chikage build?

I want to do a SKL or BLT build next, which one givrs me more variety, 50 SKL with some arcane or SKL + BLT?
Also is the Saif any good?
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>>174867502
cool

fetic central pthumerian labyrinth layer 3

ringing

password is bbg
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>>174867821
Bloodtinge has dickall for variety and the Chikage has possibly the least variety of any of the bloodtinge weapons, seeing as its only good moves are the unzips. Bowblade might be boring, but at least it has a usable untricked mode. Bloodletter is crazy good though, so if you build for bloodtinge I'd advise using it.

Skill has Saif, Reiter, Church Pick, Burial Blade and a variety of other weapons of varying levels of fun, including the Saw Spear, Rakuyo and Blade of Mercy. It also has the easiest gem farm of any build, since you only need 27% gems from Watchers unless you want to get thrust adepts for Church Pick. Don't have to bother with offshapes, abyssals, secondaries, nothing. Just visceral a bunch of fatties until you're rolling in gems.

I'd advise you go for skill and splash enough bloodtinge to use the Reiter, because that thing is phenomenal, especially in conjunction with a longer reaching weapon like Church Pick or Burial Blade to compensate for its shorter range.

Just don't be a Vileblood, that's all any of us will ask of you.
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>>174868119
You forgot to mention that all the best weapons in the game are SKL based, and when used well will dominate every other weapon in the game. So if you want 90% winrates against anyone not using the same build as you, SKL is the way to go.
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>>174867502
you still comin?

otherwise i wanna help this guy?
>>174867629
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>>174868424
tried SRRCing
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>>174868404
Between the Saif, the Saw Spear, the Reiter and viscerals yeah, skill really does have the best shit. Bloodletter is very good as well, and you could make an argument for Kos Parasite, but it's pretty ridiculous how pushed skill is.
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>>174868119
Are you fucking retarded? The Chikage has not only immense aesthetic and mystic beauty, but also outdamages almost every weapon in the game in a single, devastatingly fast strike, as frightening as it is elegant.
This is only due to the wondrous properties of bloodtinge, a man with fifty bloodtinge has enormous presence and powerful swordsman's aura and is capable of slaying any beast or hunter in that single, portentous stroke following the sheathing of the blade, and when his prey attempts to flee they will receive only the most inglorious and craven of deaths from the barrel of his monstrously destructive, yet beautiful Evelynn.
Don't disparage the chikage in such a repulsive fashion in my presence ever again, or I'll deliver swift and thunderous justice from the blade of my katana.
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>>174868530
dang ive been waiting here for some time now....wonder if i should reload
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>>174868530
um well can i go to you?

just looking to play with someone
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>>174868663
yeah maybe, still using SRRC
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>>174868568
It's really the only build worth playing, in both PvP and PvE.
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>>174868735
what is SRRC?

i thought it was small resonant bell but the acronym doesnt fit
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>>174868796
short ritual root chalice
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did you share dungeon?
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>>174868823
ah the quick co-op tomb stone

umm well i am now ringing again

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password is bbg
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>>174866872
I actually love Yarhargul and the way the Yarhargul hunters look.
I think the issue is that it's hard to determine how to properly make one.
The church and choir have a lot of dedicated lore and weapons, powder kegs have awesome techno gadgets, executioners have the wheel and the glove and shit, but unfortunately Yarhargul hunters aren't mentioned much in the lore, and the weapons they seem to wield are pretty random and don't follow a concise pattern, which indicates they most likely pilfered them from other hunters. Which is neat and all, but makes it hard to determine how to go about making one that really screams 'unseen village faction rep'.
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>>174867443
Scholars, madmen, memes.
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So the Cleric Beast descends from the Cathedral Ward if you approach the closed gate on the main bridge.

But since it is optional, you can just ignore the bridge, go straight to Gascione and enter the Ward via the sewer below the Oedon Chapel. Yet, if you go to the plaza directly above the bridge where the ball and chain giant is, the beast will not turn up.

I'd explain it lorewise with the beast having been the original gate keeper. So its faint remaining sense of duty still causes it to throw a fit if someone is approaching the gate, but it does not care if you are already in the Ward.

I'd also have liked it if you could see where the gate is leading. It goes below the Ward, so there must be some sort of main building where citizens could enter the Ward proper.
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We really need a BB-2

But it just ain't coming, right? From is working on other stuff
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>>174869030
How about you run around with another anon dressed as a Choir member, but only with the blindfold on, everything else naked, like a gimp.
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>>174869207
if you want to write more, ill keep reading it.
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>>174869221
>>174869221
They kept their lid shut about "Project Beast" for quite a while, and no one believed they would produce a console exclusive.

Who knows what the contract with Sony says though?
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>>174868119
SKL definitely seems more fun. 50 SKL 25 ARC ?
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>>174869207
>It goes below the Ward, so there must be some sort of main building where citizens could enter the Ward proper.

There is. If you go from the Oedon chapel lamp to the area with the Ball and Chain giant, there's a path to a room with tons of urns. There's a locked door there, and on the other side of that door is the Cleric Beast arena. That door is permanently locked which drives me nuts.
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>>174869348
Yeah
But I don't think they can work on 4 games at once. (They hinted at 3 games that they are working on, and it doesn't sound like any of them can be Bloodborne 2)
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>>174869398
I am aware of that door, and it makes sense for those who want to go above the gate straight away. But where does the big gate lead to? Having such a tiny door as the main entrance to an entire district of such a big city is odd.

Then again, I don't think Yharnam is the type of town to spend much on its planning department. Probably paid them in blood.
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>>174868404
>>174868568
>>174868736
Is the balance really that bad?
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>>174869221
what if they just gave us DLC but it was all Old hunters tier
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Hi, I just got the game on ps4 pro and i have two...questions

Is it normal that i get kinda shitty graphics and fps? Expecially in some battles i get huge fps drops. Graphics are kind of...muddy, blurry, or is it just because it's a game made too early into console life?

Is it normal that there is shitload of paths and diffirent routes i find that lead me in seemingly diffirent parts of the town and im not sure which way to go or i just have topographical cretinism? I thought that birdge boss from demo is the first boss i should fight but i somehow ended up with Gehrman first (or who's the hunter boss at the cemetary).
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>>174869949
FPS drops are common
You skipped cleric beast, go back to the bridge
Close the thread and play it blind, just explore as much as you want
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>>174869514
>Yharnam's planning
>There's a gate right outside Gascoigne's house
>And a 30 foot ladder all the way down next to it

I know level design >>>> realistic city planning, so I justify it in my head that everything was built super fast, feverishly but with enough devotion for beautiful details (just take a look at every ladder's carvings). The kind of devotion you get when you know for sure that Gods are fucking real.
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>>174870235
>so I justify it in my head that everything was built super fast, feverishly but with enough devotion for beautiful details

Yeah. Like with the entrance to Old Yharnam where they put a chapel on top of the side of another chapel and sealed the stairs down with a tomb that has to be moved by a mechanism.

It's no wonder that other countries and towns consider Yharnamites to be nutty. Travel reports must be full of the respective author's astonishment and mockery.
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Jesus Christ my dick
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>>174870442
well done my dude
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>>174867397
That's a rakuyo without the hilt blade.
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what if the waking world and the nightmare and dream are just part of a much, much larger nightmare
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>>174869348
>Who knows what the contract with Sony says though?
I know what it says, it says "keep giving us exclusives and we'll keep letting you use Japan Studio."
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Can a poor anon get some help for ludwig? I want the Moonlight sword early (I'm BL38 with a +5 saw spear)
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27% gems mean the tempering +27% phys, right? I'm a bit new to the Korean grinding aspect
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>knocking your enemy down by hitting them in the face behind you while impaling yourself on a giant morning star
>just bloodborne things

>>174871070
I'll come. Gimme a min
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>>174871142
I'll try one last time solo then go online
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>>174871196
Set a pass? It's prob gonna take a few attempts but I know the fight like the back of my hand, having done exactly what you're trying to do
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>>174871226
I'll go online, pass is moon. He oneshots me with some attacks so forgive me if I won't do much
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>>174871080
For Phys builds yeah, they're one of the easier grinds. OoS and very specific gems are really the only kind of Korean grinding, everything else is not so bad.
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>>174869554
Anyone?
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>>174871332
u comin betch?
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>>174871619
I am ringing the beckoning bell, do you have the Player name set to "Name" or ID?
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>>174871662
"Name"
Are you set to worldwide? Is moon all lowercase?
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>>174871602
Skill builds have it fairly easy compared to other builds but that shouldn't stop you from trying other stuff out. Almost everything in the game is viable so just go with whatever you have the most fun with.
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>>174871758
Yes, lowercase and set to worldwide. I have name too
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Skill also increasing visceral damage seems overkill to me. Does strength have other bonuses besides more damage?
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>>174871803
Are you ringing at the fog gate?
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>>174871875
Nah, at the nightmare church lamp
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>>174871762
What about endgame PvE or PvP? How much does Skill shit on other builds there? "Viable" is such a vague term these days that I don't like using it.
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>>174871923
That's probably it. At lamp now
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>>174869254
Only if he's got a really feminine penis.
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>>174871871
More variety due to Heavies. You could use almost every Skill weapon with little AR loss on a 50/25 Str/Skl build using those gems.
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>>174871871
Oneshotting all sorts of things with charged r2s, along with abyssals giving high ar on weapons and being able to convert almost any weapon to have high strength scaling.
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>>174871954
Skill is really good for PvP, for PvE it's about equal to other builds if you don't heavily rely on viscerals. Weapons are really what makes the most difference, seeing as any build that isn't Blt can use Saws effectively it's about equal.
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Get fucking annihilated, Ludwig
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>>174872121
What, so saws are the only thing that matters? Sounds boring.
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>>174871970
Thanks a lot, I really did almost nothing and my games lagged like shit at certain points.
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What's a good secondary stat for a 50 skill build?
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>>174872281
I heavily enjoy stunlocking ludwig with the whirligig
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>>174872325
25 Str, 15/18 Arc, 10 Blt
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>>174872301
'Salright. Was fun and it's always fun cumming buckets at that theme
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>>174872291
For maximum effectiveness sure, but who cares about that if you're not enjoying yourself.
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>>174869949
>you got the game on PS4pro
The Pro doesn't do anything for Bloodborne's performance.

>Graphics are kind of...muddy, blurry, or is it just because it's a game made too early into console life?
No, it's because Fromsoft's coders are incompetent as fuck. They've had trouble making their games have decent performance since their first Soulsborne game, Demon's Souls back in 2009. They got a lot of money and support from Sony for Bloodborne but still couldn't make it not chug in graphics-intensive moments.

>I thought that birdge boss from demo is the first boss i should fight but i somehow ended up with Gehrman first (or who's the hunter boss at the cemetary).

You mean Father Gascoigne. Gehrman is the friendly guy who gave you advice in Hunter's Dream. And don't worry, I fought Gascoigne as my first boss as well.

>Is it normal that there is shitload of paths and diffirent routes i find that lead me in seemingly diffirent parts of the town and im not sure which way to go or i just have topographical cretinism?

Central Yharnam is pretty expansive,maze-like and there are a lot of optional areas so I think it's more that the game has a lot of different paths within areas.
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>>174872325
30 arc 110 is new meme
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>>174872471
what does 30 arc do?
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>>174872412
Gimping yourself isn't enjoyable either. Switching to a new weapon and feeling like it was a downgrade is awful.
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>>174872560
thicc damage with thicc mixed gems
skill and siderite weapons have mad arc scaling
outdamages quality
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>>174872560
adds a slight dmg boost due to the arc scaling on the bom
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>>174872351
25 str for anything in particular?
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>>174872596
>Switching to a new weapon and feeling like it was a downgrade
I've only ever felt that with the Arm, the Chicago, and the Pile Bunker.
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>>174872668
Anything that's not Pure Skill like Church Pick, Spears, Saif, BB, etc.
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>>174872698
And I felt that way for just about everything I tried replacing my saws with.
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>>174872596
That's kind of a problem with BB but I honestly never let that put me off from using stuff that I enjoy. In PvP pretty much anything can kill you in 5 hits or less, and PvE is fairly easy with whatever you're using if you have a decent setup.
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ANYONE UP FOR AILING LORAN CO OP

ALL CAPS SO IM NOTICED

Pass is bbg
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>>174872892
sure
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>>174872838
>In PvP pretty much anything can kill you in 5 hits or less
Some weapons still have better movesets than others.
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>>174872980
What are the current top dogs of PvP anyway?
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>>174872980
Sure, but so what. Doesn't mean you can't beat people using meta stuff with non-meta stuff.

>>174873068
Saws, Saif and Rakuyo are pretty top tier in PvP.
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>>174873224
Given equal player skill the guy using the meta stuff will still win 8/10 times.
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>>174873224
Saws too even in PvP? Man I don't get how people are still playing this game after so long. Don't you get bored of that?
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>>174873346
Probably, but winning ain't everything.

>>174873398
Eh not really, I actually enjoy using almost everything including Saws but it's always nice switching to other stuff occasionally.
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>>174873570
Losing isn't fun. At least not when you lose not because the other guy was better than you, but because his weapon was better than yours.
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>>174873692
Then get better, or use whatever you think will net you more wins against them if you really care about winning.
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FUUUUUUUUCKING SPIDERS

I thought my arrows would knock them back.

Ringing again
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What weapon is fun to use? I want a new run. Did a HMS and a Whirligig run so far.
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>winning is the most important thing
>winning in the most fun way isn't
you guys have shit taste
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>>174873883
We Dark Souls 3 now
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>>174873883
>this one bbg hunter i lost to is an example of all hunters from bbg
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>>174874101
dude nice projecting. I was talking about the guys asking about winrates and complaining about meta weapons. you must be an insecure faggot
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>people say Bloodborne is dying
>From isn't making anymore Souls type series
>People who play Nioh or DS3 keep coming back to BB

i'm feeling good, but i just wish From would release a patch every now and then
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>>174874298
I kept telling people that Nioh is just Ninja Gaiden with From-esque online mechanics and they didn't believe me.
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>>174874298
I wish they'd patch the fucking guidance rune.
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>just died to the wet nurse for the first time in my life

What are you supposed to do when she splits up and everything goes dark? I usually just run around in circles until it's over
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>>174874576
No, that'll take away all the hype when someone finally manages to find it.
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Hey, I'm killing some good ol' HBLB for HA's. If you guys wanna pop in for whatever reason, the password is moonrise .
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>>174874298
I was so disappointed by Nioh, Platinumed every souls game but i couldn't finish it, by the time i got to region 5 i was done, shitty enemy variety and levels.
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>>174874585
thats what everyone does. the copy dies in one hit, though.
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>>174874585
Running around/rolling in circles is what I do, very rarely will I get clipped.
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Thanks g and friends. Defiled chalice soon. Just need a break for a bit. Gotta get some dindins and play with my birbs
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>>174874624
>tfw want to farm HAs for my arm but stuck at uni instead
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I'm getting bored of bloodborne again now done 3 more playthroughs the last of which being full ARC. I never play magic builds because the melee combat i so good, my question is should i play DS2 or 3 first if i have never done an INT playthrough?
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>>174874714
did you see that fucker's health just melt
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>>174874781
>my question is should i play DS2 or 3 first if i have never done an INT playthrough?
2. Being a pure caster is more viable in 2 and there's more spell variety by a mile.
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>>174874781
ds2 has far more shit for int builds, it's crazy what you can with just INT.
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>>174874808
It was glorious. As soon as I saw you pop that pellet and paper I knew the cunt was fucked
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>yfw you could see mergo and the wet nurse if you could get more than 99 insight
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>>174874298
>From isn't making anymore Souls type series
Except that they've already confirmed to be working on a dark fantasy i.p along the lines that [Souls] fans expect.

It's just not going to be called Souls or Bloodborne, but it's going to be the exact same thing gameplay wise.

>>174874781
Playing a caster is much more fun in DS2, although I hate the way casters play in general so there's that.
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>>174874860
>>174874939
Sounds good thanks, any tips? like decent early weapons that go well with pure INT.
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>>174875079
Agreed but i am trying to go full completionist because i usually only play STR/DEX/Quality and the BB equivalent. Magic is for fags but no other games interest me currently.
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>>174874621
>someone will manage to find something that is not programed to appear in game
So, never?
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>>174875196
>that is not programed to appear in game
We don't know that.
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>>174874781
>I'm getting bored of bloodborne
>clip of Spongebob saying "I don't know if it's possible to use those words in that order"
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>>174875082
I wouldn't know personally. I only ever do STR builds in DaS2. I would recommend either looking stuff up online or chancing your luck with /dsg/. I know they don't take to kindly to DaS2, but you're better off asking there seeing as it'd be on topic whereas asking about DaS2 stuff in /bbg/ is somewhat off topic.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your pure INT playthrough when you get around to it!
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>>174875228
You can get the first guidance rune multiple times, because the crow drops it on every new game cycle, which is clearly a bug that prevents the third one to spawn in a coffin in dungeons, resulting in a great one wisdom to appear instead. It's lost, no one is ever going to find that damn rune and believe me, I tried.
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>>174875280
Come on man, i already had the platinum and i have done 3 playthroughs in the last two weeks + chalices + Korean gems on 1 of the builds.
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>>174875342
You're right but DSG is a horrible place, i spent some time there before. Sorry it's off topic but i know i will get a better response here. I'll look it up online.
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>>174875354
Why the fuck does a Carrion Crow have Guidance in its head. Is it the Ludwig of crows?
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Anyone wanna help with Ludwig? Pass bbg13
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>>174875464
Omw
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>>174875429
No worries, anon. I'd help you more if I could. Best of luck.
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>>174875357
If you enjoy BB that much, you might prefer DS3 to 2, since 3 plays similarly fast. Casters are still good in 3, especially since the DLC
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>>174875442
Maybe it ate the corpse of the hunter holding it.
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>>174875546
>casters are still good in 3
Pyros aren't every single type of caster.

>rollspam souls plays similarly fast to bb
Haw haw.
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>>174875498
Sorry, first run with beast claws.

Plus I'm shit
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>>174875716
No worries, just keep ringing i'll stay till he is dead.
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>>174875562
>>174875442
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>>174875956
Explain, please.
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TIME FOR DEFILED CHALICE

Pass is bbg for anyone wanting a spelunk sesh
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>>174876054
Also let's not worry about optional zones. No materials needed here
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>>174875912
Thanks heaps man, you basically carried me
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>>174876218
No problem, anytime.
>>174876054
SRRC takes so fucking long.
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>>174876446
Odds are when you started SRRC I was fighting Keeper the first time. When you came in was my second attempt
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I want to make a Holy Moonlight Sword + Logarius Wheel STR+ARC Church Hunter build, what stats/gems should I go for (and where)? Also, what's the max level for PvPing here? I'd like to try my chance at the fight clubs.
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>>174876790
Can't say anything for gems but your stat spread should be 40/16/25/12/5/50, Cruel Fate as your origin. The 12 SKL is so you can use the HMS and wheel, and you can feel free to pull 5 points from END and move them into VIT, though I personally wouldn't.
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>>174876790
Max level is 120, but most players stick around 98 or 117 for whatever reason. Something about avoiding the reddit 150 meta or still being able to use powerful hybrid builds, or something.
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>>174876959
Damn, I have 20 END, 30 STR, 15 SKL and 10 BLT because I'm a raging autist who can't have anything but multipliers of 5 as stats and level. Is it irredeemable, or can I put on a more STR focus and still do it? Also, is that spread for lvl 98? I fear I wouldn't be able to play then (again, multipliers of 5). I usually went for 120 in PvP in my other characters.
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FUCKING FUCK I HATE DEFILED HOTDOG
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If anyone wants to help with Laurence, pass is bbg13
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>>174877152
damn I got greedy as hell there
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>>174876790
CF: 40+/12+/25/12+/5/50, if you feel like going higher you could dump points into Vit up to 50, End up to 20 and/or Skl up to 25. Nourishings for both, either Normal HMS and Uncanny Wheel or Lost for both depending on who you're gonna farm. Lost is probably the best, you'll have to farm FRC Amy and wait till FRC to get those gems.

FCs are 80-120 but most people here stop at 98-117. As long as you're within FC range you should be fine.
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>>174877143
I have wonderful news for you. At 40/20/30/15/10/50 you'll be at level 115, within /bbg/'s accepted level range of 98-117. Now go level up and have fun being a swole space wizard.
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>>174869221
I don't really want another bloodborne desu, the package is just completely perfect. If I could have anything, a huge content update for spelunking would be really cool. It will never happen, but I'd love that.
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What runes are used for pvp?
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>>174877435
Clock, Clock, Anti-Clock is the standard for any build.
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>>174877352
Excellent! As much as I'd prefer 120 because I like even numbers more than odd, 115 will have to do.
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>>174877435
Clockwise and anti-clockwise are always popular choices, besides that clawmark is a decent option, formless odeon if you use guns or tools a lot, if you're a str build (little visceral damage) and don't really use too many bullets you could always just slap on a low tier clockwise for even more health
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>>174877312
'Salright. Got him. I might go get some twin shards and upgrade my cannon before fighting Amy
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>>174877435
I use stam +15, guidance and clawmark +20. those are the ones I always use though, maybe switch out guidance for lake for more defense but I usually don't switch my runes out for PvP
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>>174877274
Shit sorry i suck so much. Did you get him?
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>>174877435
I like to have clockwise+blood rapture+anti-clockwise for that perfect symmetrical goodness, although for PvP clawmark in the middle would make more sense.
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>>174877518
Good luck anon! And remember to ground and pound the Vilebloods.
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>>174877545
Actually fuck it, I have bowblade. Ringing now
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>>174877773
Nah I didn't, only level 59 so I'm not doing much damage. Just after the rune
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>just finished my first bl4 run
>the hardest boss by far was the one reborn

I did not expect that
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>>174877834
Wanna give it another go?
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>>174877851
Daily reminder: tanks exist even in Bloodborne.
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>>174877542
And hunter for oath i take it?
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>>174877942
Not him but I'll join too
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>>174877851
... why? he's slow as fuck. is it the corpse puke?
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>>174877975
>>174877851
>bpps, firepaper and hes perma stunned
garbage bait from somone that hasn't even done the run
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>>174878008
Every one of his stupid attacks one shot me and he just had so much hp.

Puke fucked me a lot, but mostly it was just a random jab from one of his little legs I didn't see and I would get one shot.

>>174878079
Thats exactly what I did tho but I wasn't breaking his shit. I don't even know what I was doing wrong. I was using a saw spear which worked really well until that point.
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>>174877808
Just as a final question, does 120 extend into overleveling or are there any players from around here who go with it?
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Haha thanks guys that went w-well
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>>174878168
I'll try focusing this time and not being shit. Fkn wasted muh bbp
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>>174878168
Yeah i fucking hate laurence so much. Lets try again
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>>174878147
I'm unsure as to how the level ranges in BB work. I believe people stay at 98-117 to avoid Reddit for obvious reasons. There probably are some people here at 120, but I imagine most people prefer to stick to the 98-117 range. I'd stay under 120 just to be safe, because being out of the level range will downscale you and the math on that gets a little wonky.
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>>174877851
Lowest I do is level 25

Hardest boss for me is gehrman, probly cause I do him before the chalices and dlc tho
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Is save editing possible on bloodborne now? Leddit posted this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FsC9XA7ofE&feature=youtu.be
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Thanks guys, the first half of the fight is annoying as.
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Fug is that flaming piece of shit dead yet?
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Get rekt Amy
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>>174878382
98 was to avoid Reddit 150s, 117 doesn't but it can still invade 98s which 120 can't. 98 can still invade 120s though. There's a calculator in the OP you could check out for level range stuff.
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>>174878532
No worries. Second half was worse for me

>>174878536
Yeh, he's kill
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>>174878536
Yeah got him, thanks for the help.
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>>174878581
Thanks! Have a meme.
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>>174878528
Seems we are at the cusp of save edits on ps4

There's a tool for the Jap version of bb

Also a kernel expliot has been found out on ps4 bout 4 days ago

Twas a good run
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>>174879009
BRAD BOURNE DATAMINE WHEN??? CUTCONTENT WHEN?? UNUSED CONTENT WHEN???
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>>174879152
:^) always wanted to see what a abyssal droplet gem looked like
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WHY IS ATK DOWN EVEN A CURSE IT JUST RENDERS THE FUCKING THING USELESS JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING GOLD COIN I'D RATHER HAVE THAT FUCK
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>>174879152
>mfw we're finally going to find Guidance 3
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>Froms next will never be set in a completely alien world where the population isn't even human, stretching Fromsofts creative muscles to the very brink by forcing them to create culture and architecture completely from scratch
I feel like from would be really good at something like that.
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>>174879901
They probably would be, especially if they had the time and resources they did with BB, and weren't in a hurry to push something out the door.
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>>174879345
At least, I would die in peace, knowing I did not suffer in vain for the denigrations of others.
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>>174879152
God, I would kill to see some BB cut content.
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>>174880262
Just play dark souls 3 if you wanna see cut BB content
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>>174880508
Oh you
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>You open up BB one day
>Get an update required message
>You start downloading patch 1.10
>It's a pretty sizeable patch, thread is exploding about it since there was never any info
>You finally open the game
>Everything seems the same until you go into your inventory
>You see there are now five armour slots
>Capes are now a separate slot
How would /bbg/ react?
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>>174879901
>where the population isn't even human, stretching Fromsofts creative muscles to the very brink by forcing them to create culture and architecture completely from scratch

>I feel like from would be really good at something like that.
Based on what? Because most of their designs that people praise, are generally based on real life cultures, mythology or based on Lovecraft / Giger shit. While I really like the design style and aesthetic that Fromsoft games have, I think they're the type that takes something that's already "ready" and gives a neat, kinda twisted spin on it.

I don't really see Fromsoft as people who are particularly good at coming up with new stuff.

And generally speaking completely non-human alien shit is just.... I don't know what makes you think it'd result in anything interesting. If you have no equivalent in human culture to relate to, there's no real reason for people to care about it because they don't understand, and if you're just using human societies as a base, you're just skinning a human culture with alien paint.

And gameplay wise, having alien architecture mixed with Souls gameplay style is not going to work at all because the reason the level design and communicating danger zones / traps work is because people are able to recognize things from "real" contexts or ones they're familiar with from media, whereas with a completely alien context players would have to take a long time to visually recognize visual cues to danger zones / shortcuts and so on.
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>>174880689
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>>174880691
Stop shitting on my fantasties, I don't go around telling you your futa fetish is unrealistic.
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>>174879901
From seems to excel in westaboo stuffs, setting their world in western medieval/Gothic situations.

Guys guys guys

wild West
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>>174880689
extremely disappointed a miracle update was wasted on poo features
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>>174880919
I think this would be far too reliant on guns, and From seems to prefer melee over ranged combat. They could try implementing firearms to a greater degree, but it would take an overhaul of their current system.
I still believe that a pirate-related From game has potential. They could easily include all their old themes and mechanics in a setting that allows for BB-style combat.
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>bb gets a new patch which changes your entire character's skin tone to match form changing runes
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>>174880919
>Firekeeper/doll is a qt Southern Belle with freckles and a small gap between her front teeth
>Magic Winchester 94's, 1897's, and colt SAA's
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>>174880689
Can we finally get Gehrmans cape? It was such a letdown that his set doesn't have it.
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>>174881081
But anon, guns were pretty scarcely used with flintlocks were around and BB is still mostly melee, they'd figure something out.
Hell, they even have gatling guns in BB, by the time those exist pretty much no one used a sword anymore in real life outside of officers flaunting their status.
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>>174881081
>load Froms new game
>item description calls swords useless ala wooden shield
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>>174881286
That's fair enough. They could probably find some way to implement melee extensively, no matter what environment the game has.
>>174881373
But the Wooden Shield wasn't useless, it blocked bullets like a champ. It could take R1 spamming from the BoM without too much trouble.
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>>174867397
I genuinely loled at this.
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>>174881636
They could set the game in the distant future and find some reason to use melee, or in a post-apocalypse, or even the 1920's

All you need is a little bit of imagination, it's a fictional world after all.
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>>174881981
Actually, post-apocalyptic, maybe in a nuclear winter, would be really interesting
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Prehistoric souls, small dinos, big dinos, clubs, spears, slings. dodo patches
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Ayo, does anyone have any Milkweed skin sliders on handy?
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>>174870442
clap.gesture
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Do you guys realize how much lore you don't understand because you're only using information in the game for your interpretations? It's Bloodborne relies so heavily on its influences (Lovecraft isn't even the biggest one) that it's no wonder why you guys buy into muh personal interpretation so often.
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Reminder that the narrator at the end of Old Hunters calls it sweet child of Kos and not Kosm so all you autistic fags can go kill yourself ;)

The mad shark man also says "wrath of mother Kos" and not Kosm if you need more proof
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>>174875442
It is a metaphor. The most hope giving church hunter is no different than the bird that leaps off a ledge . . . unable to fly.
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>>174882068
>Set it far enough after the war that most the firearms have already been scavenged or rusted beyond use and people have begun creating crude melee weapons since no one has found the tooling required to make guns again
It could work but I feel like it really wouldn't be fromsofts thing, Japan really doesn't seem too big on the post apocalyptic genre and lore would be harder to get away with.

Now if you set it really far after the war, to the point where the old cities of man are basically completely forgotten and humans have regressed into tribal societies living in villages in the woods, only the bravest going to search in the ancient cities of man because of the dangers and horrid beasts that lurk within, I could see it working more for from, especially if they're subtle about it and only make it absolutely clear that this is a post apocalyptic world until late game, kind how they hid and only hinted at the whole Lovecraft theme in Bloodborne until after Rom.
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>Orphan canceling his animations into projectiles and wombo combos
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>>174881126
>bb gets a new patch which introduces a way to change your appearance

NEVER EVER
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>>174882614
>implying its not going to be based after the civil war in america.
>implying valtr isn't the nod to their next game like marvellous chester was to bloodborne
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>>174882627
>BB introduces a new patch that makes lost and uncanny weapons have different models compared to their normal counterparts
Only in my wildest dreams
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>>174882487
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you guys are retards, souls games conform to a formula in their worlds and writing, there needs to be big archetypical ideas about man at his lowest and highest and mankind having too much hubris to develop themselves beyond their lowest nature

you're not just going to get muh cowboys or whatever
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How high should I level endurance for pizza cutter? I'm trying to make a str build to try weapons I've never used before like

Whirligig, Boom Hammer, Beast Cutter, Kirk Hammer, Stake Driver etc

Gib stats pls
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>>174882996
I know that you massive nerd I'm just dreaming
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>>174883080

I bet you don't even know what the dreamlands in Bloodborne spiritually represent

baka
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>>174882996
until we get some actual information we're allowed to make up as many stupid ideas as we want
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>>174882803
>grinding offshapes just so you could be more /fa/
PLEASE NO, I'LL BREAK
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I want to marry Eileen.
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>>174883074
12 with Anti-Clock 3 has been fine for me, most would probably recommend 15-20 for it though. 50/25 Str/Skl for those weapons. You could also go 25/50 Str/Arc and convert them while using Nourishings on the Boomhammer. If you plan on using Claw though I wouldn't go the Str/Arc route since the beasthood bonus won't do anything once you convert it, 50/25 Str/Skl would be better for it.
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>>174883337
>Your favourite aesthetic also turns out to be the biggest bitch to farm gems for, essentially forcing you to go Korea mode on every one of your weapons
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>>174883409
But anon, she's an old, menopausing woman who will likely die in 20-30 years at most
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>>174883730

no she won't, blood prolongs your lifespan

god you guys don't know anything about bloodborne
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Do you think it's an oversight that the Crow of Cainhirst is still at full hp or is Eileen just that fucking bad?
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>>174883889
Maybe he originally had 20 blood vials she managed to whittle him down to one.
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Not trying to start a consolewar shitshow, this is a legit question.

Why does coop suck so hard in bb? Every time you try to help someone with a boss he constantly freezes and animation cancels and the FPS drops can get absurd on some bosses.

Is it a hardware problem? Never played a souls on console so I have nothing to compare.
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>>174886127
From doesn't use dedicated servers so online play can be a mess at times.
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>>174886127
Co-op works fine in DeS and DaS on PS3 (never got summoned in DS2).
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>>174882401
Just because they say kos doesn't mean some don't say kosm
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At 15 skl/50 blt, should I use normal or lost bowblade?
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>>174882401
Kos is the shortened version. Kosm is the formal, true name. Only a stunted giant with gnarly limbs, thick body and a low sloping brow would say Kos in anything but the most casual conversation.
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>>174886127
I don't know if you're being a faglord or exaggerating because Internet speak or not, but are you seriously having constant problems? If so, there could be a number of issues: clean out your PS4s fan, heat builds up real fast in the thing and the fan can just suck shit right in to make it worse; you or your co-op partner have shit Internet, most people around here will attest to the horror of Brazilian Pinglords who teleport around the place like an anime; From servers being fucking weird or, of course, genuine graphical problems which do occur because the game's so fucking full of ridiculous particle effects it's like they didn't care.

I myself have never experienced a tenth of the 'constant' problems many people seem to experience, certainly nothing to ever make me question if something was up. I get weird shit from time to time, like teleporting players and freezing bosses, but those are outliers in my general experience.
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Okay /bbg/ I'm doing my mandatory hour or two of For Honor because I'm not letting seventy didgeridoos gather dust on my table.

When I get back, there better be some co-op!
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>>174886472
Normal for full Phys, Lost to swap a 27.2% Phys gem for 31.5% Blt Circle, whichever for OoS. If you're going for OoS, I'd farm the gems first.
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>>174886863

Slight exaggeration, but bosses always animation cancel for me.

And no, after several hundred hours of near perfect coop on DaS 2&3 on my PC, I'm pretty sure my internet is fine.
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>>174886969
>tfw the For Honor general is more dead only a few months after the release than this game is after two years
Damn shame, from what I've seen the game has potential to be pretty fun but after lurking /foh/ for a bit it's obvious that shit needs some severe re-balancing.
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>>174887430
The animations only screw up when the connection is garbage, either yours or the hosts.
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>Ah, sweet Child of Kos, returned to the ocean... A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea. Accepting of all that there is, and can be.

What the fuck did he mean by this?
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>>174887734
You don't really "kill" the Orphan of Kos, you simply destroy the nightmare so he can return to the cosmos.
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Someone wanna help me through the DLC? Ringing at 1st bonfire. I'm level 53 Password - bbg
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>>174887559
Ubisoft just went full EA and won't support their fucking game. I remember reading some shit where someone asked their PR why unlocking everything is such a massive timesink and he said something along the lines of "We didn't think people would play all the characters, and would only stick to one or two so we made it like league of legends lol". Arrogant as fuck. They clearly didn't even play their own game telling by the state those last 3 characters were in, the ones they had locked in the betas.
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if im going to be using parasite without ayylmaode, which gems do i want? im guessing without the multipliers i just want flat arc?
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>>174888479
Yes
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>>174888479
Wait the parasite works without the rune? Don't you just use your fists without the broccoli head?
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>>174888380
Meh, to be fair there's little reason to unlock everything in the game considering most ornaments look like shit.
The real problem is they don't fucking know what to re-balance, just about everyone agrees that Peace Keeper is absolutely fucking broken yet they won't even touch her.

Also, nobushi is best waifu
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>>174887430
I feel you've probably had some pretty bad luck with co-op combined with From's servers not always being the best, a legitimate complaint. I've had some shit tier connections myself and after a while it's frustrating as hell.
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>>174888625
Yes, but you do a lot of damage with your fists thus making unarmed viable.
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>>174888625
It sort of works without the Rune. It'll have the fist moveset but since you're technically holding a weapon you can still use gems which will add damage. With the low base damage and modifiers, you'll want Flat damage.
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>want to do a character cosplay
>long hair clips through the only suitable attire
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>>174887559
Ubisoft's staffed by idiots, but there is a good game under the balance issues. If anything, being able to spam the Conqueror's UWAHUWAHUWAH pelvic thrust emote will keep me coming back.
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>>174882260
What is the biggest influence then?? Enlighten us.
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What advantages do other weapons have over the saws and saif other than fun and novelty?
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I've listened to Ebrietas' theme so many times and the last minute still gives me chills man
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>>174892470
Reach/speed/damage per hit, depending on the weapon.
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>>174887734
The bottomless sea is the cosmos. He's just returned to a higher plane and is no longer bound to the nightmare.
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>>174892703
What about in PvP? Kinda feels like it's impossible to hit people with other stuff.
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>>174892470
>>174892810
Tonitrus fucks kin, whirligig destroys beasts, bloodletter/Chikage have retarded damage in pvp, bow blade is very versatile in pvp, arcane builds have good damage and a lot of versatility, and church weapons get modifiers against certain enemies
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when is the best time to start the dlc?
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>>174893568
RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
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>>174893568
i always start after burgerland
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>>174892810
>What about in PvP?
Some also have hyperarmour, although the amount of frames is not as generous as in DaS3.
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>>174893568
Recommended BL is around 65. I recommend at least having at +8 weapon. Around after Rom would be a good time to go into it
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Did I fuck up upgrading the HMS to +10 for a STR+ARC build when there are Uncanny-Lost versions? Or is it workable?
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>>174893764
Can they win consistently though?
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>>174894016
It's workable. But Chunks and Rocks are actually rather easy to get if you do a lot of dungeons (chunks from bosses and rocks from insight), so you can switch to a Lost/Uncanny version later.
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>>174894126
i use kirk/pick/cuttah and win about twice as many as i lose
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>>174887734
You unshackle the Orphan from the Hunter's Nightmare and allow it to go and join the rest of its brethren in the ocean, which is probably a euphemism for the cosmos/universe.
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>>174894265
I went on a Chalice binge about a week ago with a PvE character and I'm heavily burnt out about them.
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>>174893928
>>174893763
thanks. i normally started the dlc after micolash because the i get access to good blood gems but im glad i can do it a bit earlier
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Explain how the Chalice Dungeons work. I've completed two so far which is a joke at level 120, but why can I not start the third one? Says I'm missing ritual blood.
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>>174895545
it means you do not have the reqired ritual blood to make the next chalice. read the op
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>>174895545
you need to farm ritual blood in the respective tier, once you've done the chalices you'll be able to buy them from the messengers. look in the OP for farming locations. don't let the early difficulty get in your head, it gets harder the more you progress until you end up ripping all of your hair out.
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>>174895545
>120
found the ledditor
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>>174895545
L-Level 120?
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>>174895948
>>174896097

What's wrong with it? I'm in NG+ at Rom and never once grinded. Didn't even do all optional bosses in NG.
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ban chikage nerds
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>>174896302
Step back a minute and ask yourself if you really need to be at BL 120 to survive the game.
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>>174896371
did that plastic sword just cut through a pumpkin
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>>174896667
I reached 50 for skills and strength, so why shouldn't i level bloodtinge and arcane now? I don't get it
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someone pls help me with the dlc. ringing at the bloodsuckers.
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>>174897364
On my way dude but Imma get cucked by Seglat dun care tho
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>>174897217
If you have absolutely no intention of doing PvP of any sort, go ahead. If you have any intention otherwise, our maximum is 117, absolute highest. But do you really need all those levels? Wanting to choose from a large pool of weapons is understandable, but it gets to the point where it's just excessive.
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>>174897364
just run past them
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>>174897364
Wait m8 I need a password
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>>174897495
I don't care for online play. I just want to finish it again on NG+ killing all the bosses and doing all the sidequests and then I want to do the DLC
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>>174897754
Then go for it. When do you plan to stop leveling?
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>>174897750
bbg
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>>174897862
Well when I finish the DLC
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>>174897862
Not him, but I've been playing these games since Demon's and I still don't understand this mentality that people have to stop leveling up at some point. The game gets progressively harder on each NG+, there's literally no reason not to continue leveling unless you're making a PVP character or doing challenge runs. I don't understand why people just assume every character someone makes is going to be one of those two things.
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ohh, majestic
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>>174897750
never thought i'd even run out of vials baka
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Ayyo Luna wanna go again? I won't try any fancy charged R2s this time
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>>174898089
It's mostly assume the character is for PvP because that's a good deal of focus here, between the spelunking and FC. Otherwise, I'd imagine it's for the sake of not getting too terribly downscaled. I never stopped leveling with my first hunter, but set a limit after I started making ones geared toward the FC.
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>>174898428
yes pls ;_;
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>>174898557
bloodborne has no pvp
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>>174898630
Ringing at the lamp, friend, or should I go outside?
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>>174898697
that oneshot O_O
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>>174899182
He just wrecked me with an R2, never really realized how freaky all their yelling is

I'm ringing in the church if you want to keep going
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>>174899182
>O_O
Please don't
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>>174899384
O_o
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>>174899182
o.O
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reminder before you go and farm gems
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html
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>>174899671
>>174899714
OwO whats this
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So I just started a new character after a thousand years since I missed the old blood after drudging through souls. We are staying mostly at 98 for all our co-op and pvp needs?
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>>174899265
that was akward
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>>174899917
>trigger the cutscene even though you die

So, you're just laying face down in the blood river there watching this majestic horseman take out his cosmosword before you kick it?

Ringan in the church
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>>174899872
yup
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>>174899872
only if ur gay
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>ludwig does a tiny little nose boop thing in my general direction
>I die instantaneously
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>>174900358

Are there many co-op gays?
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>>174900481
^ this
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>>174901003
yes, but not the good kind of gay that give fashion advice and can decorate and have syle, im talking the bad kind of gay that take dicks in public toilets
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>>174900481
that time we just shredded him. ringing
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>>174901230

Well, shit. What is the least faggotry blood level then?
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>>174901716
98 :^)
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>Rakuyo is dank cavalry sabre with a knife combo and looks cash with Constable clothing
>can't use it because you will end up a vilecuck
why live?
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>>174901652
Wanna go Research Hall or take on the church gals? I think you can ring in the cell hallway
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>>174901982
yeah im ringing there now :)
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W E W
E
W

Ringan
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>>174901941
why are you so concerned about what others think about you?
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>>174902327
im dying
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>>174902337
Because I despise vilecucks myself.
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well the eye does damage
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>>174901941
>letting
>memes
>decide
>how
>you
>play
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>>174902639
White Church Garb Girl has 100arc
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>>174902327
Where? I'm bored.
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>>174901941
You don't have to be a vilecuck, Yamagook is not one, and Natalya doesn't look like one.
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Can someone expalin me this shit - I'm periodically invading this one faggot. Every single time I land 5-8 visible hits with sfx while only 1-2 counts as damage.
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>>174903486
bad ping m8
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anyone want to help with ihyll HMPH? pass is hmph, ringing at lamp
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yo anyone up for Darkbeast Paarl? I'm bl27, honestly hate fighting this thing
pass is bolt
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what's the best place to farm/get chunks? just started the dlc yesterday, picked up the whirligig saw just now and I NEED this sweet bitch at +9 ASAP
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>>174903638
Where was it?
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>>174903846
story ihyll, ill be doing the rest of the chalice if anyone want in, same pass.
thanks for your sacrifice segalt
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>>174903835
Werewolfs made out of organs in Yahar'gul often drop a chunk or two per run and also the normal ones in Upper Cathedral Ward. Otherwise, some dungeons bosses drop them along with a gem.
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I thought you stopped scaling past 50 points in any attribute but arcane ,am i wrong?not that it would matter since ng + from a point onwards becomes pointless,rather do a new build than play ng 5 or some shit
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Oh dear, Luna, you got M E M E D
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>>174904780
50 is the 2nd softcap (or hardcap since the returns are negligible past it) for weapons. But Hunter Tools scale well past 50 all the way to 99.
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>>174904780
You technically do keep scaling, but it's not worth investing in. The special thing about ARC is that Hunter Tools continue scaling very well past 50.
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Do any of you lovable Hunters own any BB merch? Bonus points for non-figure stuff
I just got this shirt and I would get a poster if my wall wasn't already full of them
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sorry segalt, aparently i cant kill a scorpion by myself
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>>174905381
I don't, but I'd love to have some posters on my wall. Never bought vidya posters before, though, so I'm not sure where to look.
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>>174905634
I get pretty much all my stuff on Amazon because relatives give me gift cards for it
I got a great Dark Souls/Artorias poster from there
And also two anime wall scrolls too
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what are good final stats for a level 98 skill build?
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>>174905127
cant beckon for this boss?
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>>174905884
40/16/25/50/7/8, move points out of END or STR if you want to use a particular gun or hunter tool.
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>>174905381
I'd buy a plushie modeled after my hoontah
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>>174905884
MV: 40+/10+/25/50/10/6+ or LS: 40+/11+/11/50/10/7+. 40-50 Vit, base-20 End, 15/18 Arc is optional.
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>>174906010
You gotta go in and start the fight, either die or mark out, then you can summon
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>>174906428
ok 1 sec
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>>174906069
>>174906130
END is a joke, if you're doing 98 for pvp you're better off having more vit and using two stamina runes instead.
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>>174906529
this tbqh. I'm so sick of the fags in this thread not leveling 50 vit and then complain about getting 2shot by katanas
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thanks segalt, i think youve killed the queen for every member of the family
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>>174906529
>and using two stamina runes instead.
Why is this the meta? Seems like it would make more sense to level closer to 120 or something to squeeze in more endurance and leave room open to use other runes.

98 just sounds like such an arbitrary special snowflake "we're not reddit" number, please redpill me on this shit.
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>>174906868
98 is to pvp with 80s and to avoid 120s, it's a meme. 117 exists as a counter meme to 98.
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>>174906529
>Not going Clock, Clock, Anti-Clock with base End
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>>174906868
exactly, it avoids reddits bl150 """builds"""
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>>174906979
That works too, depending on your starting class. If you've got like 8 END you might want to do two stam runes.
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>>174906529
I'm 2xVit 1xStamina + Hunter runes anbd on SKL only thing that may cause trouble is Rakuyo with too much sidestepping. Everything that isn't Bloodletter or Chicago is for more than 2 hits.
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the pizza cutter is insane. that wall is just covered in blood
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120 is the max, that's what I am and I still get my ass handed to me in our fcs.
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ringing at the cathedral Tobias
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>>174907035
Do you get paired with 150's at 117?
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>>174907587
>>174907806
On my way for Larry bully
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>>174907892
You can invade them but they can't invade you, 99 is the lowest you can be to completely avoid them.
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>>174906862
Cheers, I was caught for a bit too long during the fight with the Queen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn4J9bF03yc&feature=youtu.be
Sorry about Orphan the other day, m8.
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>>174908050
he's such a bully ;_;
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>>174908608
We are VERY close
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>>174908654
fug this thing
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>>174909148
Got fucking murdered on my way to the fog, don't have Larry killed in my world, apparently
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>>174902673
>>174902337
Why don't you understand that people like roleplaying in roleplaying games?
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>>174906116
I'd totally love that, I don't have a single plushie
I'd give an arm and a leg for a Doll plushie
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>>174902337
90% of the people in this general are reddit retards
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>never tried STR before
>axe is ok, shit one handed but great two handed
>same for Kirk, good 1h set but boring longsword
>figure the dlc may have better stuff
>boom hammer is eh. Fun for big hits but tedious to relight
>find the beast cutter

A weapon this fun should NOT be allowed holy fuck. Is there a good fast/short range STR weapon to accompany it?
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i have a huge backlog but all i want to do is play the game again with a different build just to fight ludwig again

what do i do
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Alright Luna, lets give this the old college try

I gotta head off after this one, I'm afraid
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>>174901941
If you read the description it just says it originated from the same country that the Chikage did. That doesn't make people who wield the Rakuyo inherently a Vileblood
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>>174906529
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I just realized Ludwig was said to be fearless when fighting with his HMS and there is the whole "without fear in our hearts, we're little more than beasts" and as such he became the most hideous beast in the entire game
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>BB2 is set during the Yharnam war that happened before this game overlapping with the night of the hunt
>Final level isn't some crazy shit with giant monsters or whatever, it's you slowly turning into a beast and viciously slaughter soldiers begging for their lives or ineffectively trying to stop you
>Final boss is just a half dead general swinging at you occasionally but mostly just keeping his chipped and dulled sword against the ground to support himself, a boss you absolute tear apart because at that point you're a full on beast
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>>174910142
appreciate the help :)
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>bring my blt character to pvp
>unzips can easily decide a fight
>can 2 shot cooperators
>can shoot someone after a heal-parry to kill them like a coyboy
What the fuck I love bloodtinge now.

>>174910025
Stake driver is quick and fun but more str quality than just str.
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>>174910504
Let me know if you get it, Luna, sorry about this

Glad to help!
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>>174910540
Up the bitrates as high as you can while staying in the 3mb range (within reason, a 5 second webm doesn't need to be 2.9mb's), if your beginning is still pixilated as fuck make the size smaller so you can up the bitrate.
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is this stat spread fine for a general SKL build? want to use the reiterpallasch, rakuyo and saif mostly
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>>174911267
Start with MV instead and you should be fine. I'd swap End for more Vit but it's whatever.
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>>174911108
What number should I use for the bitrate?
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>>174911267
Looks good to me.
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>>174911267
if you're thinking about pvp consider leveling vitality to 50, or at least 45
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I have 2 builds to show. I want to try a beast claw build but don't know how to go about it. Is this a good build for it?
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>>174911416
>>174911554
>>174911595
duly noted. i'll up the vit to 45 which leaves me at BL 101, which should be perfectly fine, right? or i could go 50 vit, 13 end and be left at 104, does it make much of a difference?
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>>174911721
Yes, you can also go Cruel Fate with 15 ARC for Beast Roar but with less VIT and END.
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then there's this one
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>>174911721
Looks good to me. If you're feeling like it you could pull 5 points from END and move them into VIT.
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>>174911721
Stats are good, but for PvP it's better to go with 2 Clock and 1 Anti.
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>>174911419
Generally I like to stick to 1200 as a minimum and work my way up from there, if the webm ends up being significantly smaller in MB than I anticipated I keep bumping it up for the best quality, if it's too big I make the size of the webm smaller to compensate.
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>>174911908
If you're going over 98 you might as well get more Vit and End till you reach at most 117 (or 120).
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>>174912302
i see

i'm pretty new to this, what's the reason people stick at 98 anyway?
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>>174911908
no, do this
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>>174912376
>can invade 80s
>avoids invading 150s
>avoids being invaded by 120s
>can be summoned by 65+ for co-op
>near 100
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>>174911927
I'd personally take some points out of End and move them to Vit so you can survive a hit in Central Yharnam
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Played through the game and chalices as:
Quality build, STR, SKL, ARC. Is BLT worth playing? the idea of declining health never appealed to me, also easily 50% of my duels or more are vs the chikage, is it OP or something? only ever used the standard pistol/blunder/cannon are other guns fun and viable with BLT?
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Is Amygdalan arm viable for a STR/ARC (25/50) build?
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>>174910489
>Yharnam is located in not-Eastern Europe
>set in a comparable modern day
>the place is in an absolute state because Mensisfags have just ruined it by calling down the moon
>peasantgrad, yharnam
>shit tier farmland, city's just a melted pile, muddied shit tier blood in circulation, general slavic grimness
>ethnic conflicts over perceived belief that those people become beasts quicker, and those people turn into even worse beasts
>participate in ethnic cleansing mutant villagers pretty as fucked as you
>trick weapons have been replaced by trusty and cheap stronger guns with various attached spikes, blades and saws
>die in the mud like the beast you are
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>>174912784
Evelyn hits like a god damn truck with high BLT, but it's just a pistol. It does have a sweet animation, though.

Then there is the bloodletter which hits like a freight train with no brakes filled to the brim with tungsten.
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>>174912862
No, Amy arm isn't even viable at 50/50/50
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>>174911920
Doesn't the Beast's Embrace Oath with the Claws have a built-in Roar, though, the L2?
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>>174912862
Not really, the Arc base damage is too low so it's better for 50 Str w/ 25+ Skl
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>>174908441
what do you mean sorry? i swear we got him first try?
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okay last check before i start putting work in the character

sticking to 98
also runes are standard clock clock anticlock hunter right?
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>>174912862
No, it's not, it's a pure STR weapon, the ARC damage is there to prevent buffing, which is a shit, retarded rule that FROM have broken over the course of multiple games. The ARC scaling can be ignored.
I've also kind of grown disappointed in Amyarm in general, the damage feels lacking even on a dedicated build, the untricked moveset has limited uses and it barely has hyperarmour in general. It's pretty great for PvE though, probably one of the best weapons to cleave through huge crowds of enemies, and the design is fucking top notch, definitely one of the most imaginative weapons out there.
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>>174913542
Perfect and yes.
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>>174913153
It's not the worst weapon, but its pretty down there I feel. The sounds, however satisfying they are, serve as a major dodge cue, and the swings aren't fast enough.
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Durability down and increased stamina cost curses don't matter on guns right? Do they matter on the tricked bowblade or when I only use the shots of the Reiterpallash?
On the Blunderbus with 50 blt: is it better to go 31.5% or 28.7% + 7.3?
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>>174913560
What about the boom hammer?
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>>174913323
>Using beast embrace
Yes but it's a really shitty one, can be parried and only slightly staggers instead of full on knocks back, and not even long enough to be of any use so it's pretty pointless
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>>174913732
Don't matter for all 3, stam cost does for Bowblade arrows probably but it isn't significant. The one with Flat damage is better for Blunder.
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>>174913542
Why the 10 Blt? Planning on using the Repeating Pistol?
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>>174913664
thank you kindly
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can someone help me with flaming cleric beast? ringing now
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>>174913978
Pass and location?
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>>174913153
You stop that
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>>174913831
Boomhammer has decent base Fire damage so it does good with Nourishings on a 25/50 Str/Arc build.
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>>174913978
booting up. password and location?
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>>174913978
>no password
come on man
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>>174913927
Reiter, gonna swap it around with rakuyo and see how I like them
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>>174914085
>>174914014
bbg just outside foggate
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>>174914316
I've never used it myself, but from what I've seen, it works as a much faster Rifle Spear. It seems enjoyable.
Is there a way to use the Reiter effectively alongside a Chikage, or would I have to sacrifice one for the other?
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>>174914023
It fairs well against other "greatweapons" but fighting Saws/BoMspam with it is pretty frustrating as it neither has any kind of fast move for punishes, nor can it tank shit. It's fastest move is probably untricked dash r1, but its far from the glory of the wheel.
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>>174914493
you still there?
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>>174914504
SKL/BLT builds are a thing but they kind of spread themselves too thin.
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>>174912064
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>>174914803
Since the untricked Chikage is all but useless, could I just tune the Reiter for the gunshots?
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>>174914504
>>174914879
Oops
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>>174913905
Thank you.
I'm fighting now with my new bloodtinge build and I have to say that the damage is just absurd. Doing a L1 -> R2 catches many off guard because of the delay and almost oneshot them.
I'm starting to think that Chikage users actually are redpilled
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segalt i can see your phantom please dont cuck me
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/23542
Any glaring flaws to this build? weapons listed will be used mostly tricked. My first time trying BLT.
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>>174915370
Swap a point from Vit or End into Skl for Bowblade and it's good.
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>>174915370
as long as you stay tricked you're fine
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Redpill me on the Memekage, why won't people shut up about it? And is it good in pve?
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>>174915735
The Vileblood stigma and limited moveset (also consider OP by some). Great for PvE, rarely anything is particularly resistant to Blood. Kind of annoying for spiders since it knocks em down in one hit but that could also be an advantage.
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>>174915735
Very high damage unzips, otherwise trash moveset. Canonically used by cainhurst vilebloods, actual cucks who collect eldritch sperm for their queen that friendzoned them all.
Also used by Yamameme, so it's not always a brand of cuckoldry.
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>>174915735
vileblood filth use flimsy edgy garbage as a weapon
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>>174915665
Thank you i must have missed that when looking through BLT weapons. Is the bow blade any good?
>>174915687
Why wouldn't you with a BLT build? 25 skill seems like a waste to me when you could have higher health to balance the drain.
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>>174916279
Pretty good for cheesing stuff.
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>watch a guy streaming his first blind run of bb
>expect him to get rekt everywhere
>he actually plays really well
>he finds all the shortcuts in Central Yharnam on first try
>kills Gascan on his first attempt
>only dies his first time in Old Yharnam

The Old Hunters would've been proud.
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>>174893568
I would say BL70-80 with a +9. I generally start the DLC after hitting Micolash and when I have a +10 weapon.
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Anyone out here tonight looking for help with any chalice dungeons?
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>>174910025

Not really? Amygdala Arm is okay but a bit slow. I've been using the Saw-Spear, even though that's more of a Skill weapon.

Tontirius is pretty good and can be gotten fairly early: after you take out the Blood Starved Beast, although it's a bit short ranged, so you might find yourself having a mid-range deficiency between the Cutter and Tony.
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>>174917741
just need to farm some bastards and then im making a fresh frc
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>>174917740
I'm either brave or stupid, I usually start the DLC before fighting Rom, maybe after the Shadows and either Cainhurst or the Frontier.
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>>174917461
Reminds me of that one girl streamer who kept dying at NG+7 Ludwig. She would summon two cooperators and deny that she was being carried, despite the fact that she was playing more passive than an SRRC host.
And then that one streamer who took 3 hours to reach the Scourge Beast in the Clinic.
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>>174917890
I do the same thing, The other guy is overleveled.
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>>174917905
3 hours???? how
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>>174917905
>3 hours to reach the Scourge Beast at the clinic
I.....what?

As far as carried by phantoms through NG+7 Ludwig I can understand because NG+7 Ludwig...
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>>174917905
>And then that one streamer who took 3 hours to reach the Scourge Beast in the Clinic.
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How many of you invade worlds just to take pictures of the mobs?
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>>174918079
>>174918147
>>174918162
The ceiling kept her busy
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>>174917890
I usually start on the DLC before Rom as well, at least enough to get the weapons I want quickly. There are enough chunks in Cainhurst and the Nightmare to be able to upgrade a weapon to +8 so Ludwig isn't too much trouble
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>>174918079
She was examining literally every visual detail possible, including the wood on the floors and benches, the indentations on the walls, etc. Shit was absolutely ridiculous. She probably has a degree in Central Yharnam architecture.
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>>174918193
How did all the viewers react? I'd imagine they jumped ship after the first few minutes.
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>>174918068
Idk, I like to save the best for last and it's kinda underwhelming to come back to base game bosses after you've beaten Ludwig, Kos and Laurence.

>>174918193
That sound fascinating in a weird way.
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>>174918353
The viewers were a bunch of white knight mods and other sad fucks who would jump on you the moment you offered any advice.
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anybody want to help with the rapehorse? bl 72 pass is pony
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>>174918468
>watching streamers ever
You are just as bad.
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>>174918442
I could see wanting to save the Orphan for one of the last fights, I'll grant you that.
>>174918468
Of course they were, that makes sense now.
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>>174918568
Wait for someone who's not Segalt to come
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>>174918638
>not watching people play one of your favorite games and possibly making friends while doing so
You're missing out breh.
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>>174918568
what is that?
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is there anywhere i can quickly grab some blloming coldblood flowers? im sick of crf isz
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>>174918863
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>>174918881
Loran Clerics usually drop them. If you're going for specific Ritual Materials that are drops, the Eye Runes work really well.
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>>174918881
Ailing Loran has some. Either on Layer 1 or 2, iirc. You can also buy them from the insight shop if you're on NG+
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thank you GEN!!
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>lose several duels in a row
>lose will to live
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>>174905381
I want a Holy Shawl.
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>>174919023
>>174919025
im not in ng+ and just farmed bastards for an hour so ill just go with isz for now, will post glyph in a few mins
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Fuck I love bullying Brainsucker boss.

Such a good chunk farm.
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ROLL UP ROLL UP LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR THE FINEST, THE FRESHEST FRC ISZ YOU HAVE SEEN IN YOUR LIVES
THREE LAYERS OF AYYLMAOS AND TREASURES BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINING
TWO BURLY HUNTERS REQUIRED TO ESCORT A 12VIT CAULIFLOWER THROUGH THIS MOST PERILOUS DUNGEON
ITS FIRST COME FIRST SERVED SO DONT BE SHY, COME ON DOWN TO GLYPH npuppbha WITH THE PASSWORD kos_ AND YOU COULD JOIN THE ADVENTURE OF A LIFETIME
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>>174919876
You just gave me an idea for a lion tamer-style hunter, Knight's Set with the Top Hat, Threaded Cane with the Loch Shield, and the largest mustache in town. Some sort of beast tamer in the local Yharnam circus.
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>>174920034
I want to see this
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>>174919876
a-anyone?
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>>174920685
SRRCing
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>>174920685
Fuck it I'll try. Is that underscore meant to be part of the password or a demarcation to split up the text?
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>>174919876
Ringing, will join for a layer or two.
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>>174920825
i'd make the glyph i was you, if you keep having to srrc when i get rekt then this will take forever
>>174920962
part of the password
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oh fugg
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i didnt see him, maybe segalt should go first
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The meme ARC is not for everyone
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>>174920258
Ringmaster Lloyd: came to Yharnam not for answers, a cure, or blood treatment, but because he heard about the beasts there, and wanted to restock his traveling circus. Armed only with an amateur fencing ability, a gentlemanly top hat, and a mustache beyond the smallest child's greatest dream, he seeks to capture the beasts to display at the greatest show in Yharnam.
Maybe have a Reiter/Rakuyo setup for a sword swallower, or a Parasite build for the twistable man. Yharnam would make for quite the circus.
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>>174921796
if i keep fucking up ill hop on a more sturdy charcter, this is embarassing. this dungeon is now 20%of my total deaths
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>>174918990
still need help?
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im hopping on flynn, this place is nuts
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I made the glyph and dicked around with the bell going and never got you. I'm about fight the first boss
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it's hmph are you shitting me
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>>174922880
>l1 isz hmph
Does that happen often?
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show me to the lost chikage!
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>>174923154
Ihyll Root. There should be glyphs on one of the wikis that has it in an easily obtainable location.
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>>174923251
bless you m'lady bless you
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>>174921796
Arc was never good. It's ver grind heavy and makes you keep changing it up for the best results. It's not the greatest for PvE. In PvP, anyone halfway decent can dodge all your spells anyway, including the parasite abilities.
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>>174922525
segalt you are a hero, ringing l2
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>>174923654
Give me a moment to kill Elder and I'll meet you there. If you get Sid, go on ahead.
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Am I the only person who thinks the Living Failures boss theme is wasted on them?

It's actually a really nice tune, it sort of reminds me more of sci-fi space battles more than Bloodborne, but it's still pretty decent.
Whilst their fight... isn't. It's just a chore really where you fight blue blobby people who like to headbutt and occaisionally rocks fall and everybody dies.
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>>174923654
l1 pre area has a blood rock btw, ive got tomlin with me right now
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Reminder ntrtt
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>>174923737
You aren't the only one. For a great theme, it was arguably the least enjoyable fight in ToH, and really came out of nowhere. I like that it gave Yamamura something to do, I've never summoned him for Paarl or Reborn, but it just felt like a weak fight. The setting and music were wonderful, though.
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>>174923910
>you can summon Yamamura for Paarl
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>>174924213
I really hope that by that point in time, you've already killed Paarl. Yamamura has terrible Bolt resistance, the fight would be a death sentence. Antal has the same poor defense, but at least he has a serrated weapon and a Flamesprayer.
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I just finished my first playthrough using the Kirkhammer and I dabbled in the threaded cane. What's a fun build to use as I finish up the other two endings? I wanna dabble in magic but I've heard it's toned down heavily from the mainline series.
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>>174923737
Not every boss can be balls to the walls awesome and epic. I understand your frustration though because Research Hall was a much better area than Living Memelures were a boss.
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>>174924409
"Magic" in Bloodborne is more supportive Hunter tools than actual spells like in Souls. There are like 3 direct spell equivalents in Bloodborne.
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Good night, /bbg/
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i got pooped on, but it wont let me ring again, any ideas why?
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>>174924881
Answers "no"
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>tfw no proper beast-kin mechanic like Dark Souls has hollowing
>ywn slowly transform into a beast a la gascoigne as you dabble heavily in blood vials, echoes, and burn your insight
>ywn end up as a brainsucker-celestial emissaryesque hunter-ayy hybrid by having too much insight

I know it'd be too much work to rework movesets and armor according to your condition but god damn it'd have been nice
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>>174925025
dw lads, i spawned back on layer 1 because im a dumdum, ringing again at l2 lamo
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>>174923585
It's still most viable caster version out of any of the games made by FROM.
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Reminder to ignore tripfags
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>>174925518
Not really. Pyromancy in 1, and Hexes in 2 were both more viable.
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Wait, Ludwig is the first church hunter, right? But he wears the holy showl, and it is said that the executioner garb served as a prototype for all church gear. Does that mean that Ludwig was the original executioner and Logarius is merely his successor, maybe even not the only one?
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>>174926032
Logarius isn't a hunter. Ludwig was just the first person affiliated with the Church to begin hunting beasts.
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Has anyone ever played the Bloodborne Card Game? I keep seeing it on TTS workshop and I'm wondering if I should try to get my friends to play.
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>>174926404
Yeah but consider that area before ludwig is swarming with (nightmare) executioners, doesn't that speak in favour of him being the first one?
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>>174926918
They don't look like executioners to me - the Executioners are all about the Ardeo and the Wheel, whereas they use axes and Church cannons while their clothing looks like a perversion of the White Church Attire. And they wear the Yahar'Gul helmet.

Probably a prototype of the Church Giants we see normally or something.
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>>174926821
Never played it, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. How do games like these usually fare on the market, successful or flops?
>>174926918
Not really. They feel more like guardians, seeing as one is right behind the doors to Laurence, and two others are guarding the way to Ludwig and the Research Hall. Ludwig probably used that garb because other forms of Church Attire for hunters had yet to be developed.
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>>174926821
I haven't, but I watched Lobos Jr play it and it seemed pretty cool.
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>>174924663

Thing is, what purpose does that boss fight even serve? Maria alone is a fine boss for the Reasearch Hall, you don't need a boss fight directly before that.

It feels like we were supposed to get Maria in a version of the Yarnham Clock-Tower but it got cut, so they shoved her here at the end of the Research Hall.

Assuming of course that the Clock-Tower in real-world Yarnham wasn't also the Research Hall in the real as well.
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>>174926032
The timeline in Bloodborne is hazy at best but it might be a hundred years or maybe more between the events of Old Hunters and the present day Yharnam.

Or maybe decades, but in either case Logarius was the head of whatever Executioners the Healy Wheely Church sento to purge the vilecucks in recent times so Ludwig predated Logarius, yeah.

>>174926918
Any one of those executioners or ones not even present could have been the "first one". Why does it even matter?
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>>174910489
This happened in sotc
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>>174927038
>The Executioners are all about the Ardeo and the Wheel
Maybe that tradition only came later along with Logarius?

If you look at their capes, it's the same as what the executioners wear.
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Notable features of npuppbha
>roaming bps on every layer
>blood rock l1 bonus
>deep sea t3
>floating teleporter l1b
>floating rock l2
>elder in small room l1
>chain giant in small room l2
>5 blood 5
>20 yes thats right 20 pearl slugs
>lost kirkhammer
>lots of fun for everyone

thanks for the help everyone who came along, 20 slugs means a lot more to come, and i got a nice new blunt for my kirk from the l2 boss, see you next time!
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>>174918990
Who is the person who did this edit? I want to gift them.
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>>174919747
>didn't even get a chunk
0/10
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>>174927652
It's the Holy Shawl, like the Church Prospector set's.

I myself think that Logarius predates Ludwig, perhaps even the whole beast business (attacked Cainhurst because of their taking of things that belonged to Logarius' ancestors, such as the Executioner Gloves), but I don't have much evidence on the matter.
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dumb question

are health runes worth using in cursed chalices
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>>174927776
I just saved that one for the pancake finish.
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>>174927828

Log does predate Ludwig. The Executioners came first, since all church hunter attire is based on it.
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>>174927743
No problem kin. The Amy on the final floor gave me a reason to use Call Beyond for the first time in a long while.
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>>174928193
Yes. It still increases your health in cursed dunegons, and I've had many times where I would've gotten one-shot if it wasn't for the extra health from a rune
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>>174927038
>>174927110
>they're not executioners
They're called explicitly "nightmare executioners" in the concept art pages, they're wearing all white garbs with a holy showl and wield church weapons. This is the only pic I could find, but you can clearly see the name.
>the Executioners are all about the Ardeo and the Wheel
Alfred has neither when you summon him for BSB. I'd say they're not obligatory, just ironic. Again,
>Executioner Garb. Later became the basis for all Church attire, with its heavy draping of Holy Shawl.
>>174928305
How can executioners predate ludwig if he's stated to be the first church, and executioners are church hunters?
>It is said that this rifle was employed by Ludwig, the first hunter of the Church. Its long, heavy barrel makes up in range for what it lacks in reload speed.
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>>174928626
>Attire worn by the band of executioners commanded by the martyr Logarius.
>Later became that basis for all Church attire, with its heavy draping of Holy Shawl.

Vilebloods came before beasts. Executioners aren't beast hunters.
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>>174928896
Which still makes Ludwig an executioner, albeit I was wrong on him being before Logarius.
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Is the Grey wolf set the armor with highest beastmode stat?
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>>174928626
The attire is not exactly the same. Theirs looks embroidered and white compared to the coarse, thick and grey clothing of the Executioners (looks more like monk's robes).

Not to mention they have metal armor.
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>>174929032
Ludwig's title as the first Church Hunter doesn't necessarily mean he was an Executioner. The term "Hunter" more likely would have been used in the context of beasts, not Vilebloods, making him the first beast hunter of the Church.
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>>174929032
We don't know if Ludwig is an Executioner or not. He's a Church Hunter, and I like to use my HMS with the Executioner attire, but he just has a hugeass shawl.

It's just conjecture at best, really.
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>>174928896
>Vilebloods came before beasts

No, Cainhurst did. Vilebloods are explicitly made by the blood the scholar stole from Byrgenwerth. They are contemporaneous with beasts if anything.
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>>174929058
no, bradors' set is
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>>174929304
Ahh thanks, forgot about that set.
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>>174929526

How could you man it looks fukken sick
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>>174929646
I forget heaps of the DLC stuff because I came back to the game after a year of it being out. Played heaps of the game on release so all the base game stuff is easier to recall
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>decide to look up executioner pictures on google
>find ebrietas paizuri porn in first results
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>>174929265
I think that's just Church propaganda myself - I feel that the Pthumerians and the nobility of Cainhurst share some sort of connection (descendants, maybe? Especially given how Oedon impregnates Arianna like how he did Queen Yharnam), and we know that the Cainhurst nobles were long time drinkers of blood, and they had their own brand of Hunters called Knights who cleaned up Castle Cainhurst (which is probably why the Castle courtyards are full of Bloodlickers after the Executioners killed all of the Cainhurst).
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>>174929993
t. vileblood
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>>174929967
I found this
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>>174929967
>implying there is anything wrong with that
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>>174930125
You take that back you filthy Dreg Hunter
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>>174930216
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>>174930216
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>>174930216

>>174929993
The only reason Arianna got knocked up by Oedon is because she was the only survivor to speak to the Chapel Dweller. He more or less acts as a conduit for Oedon, and she is the only character throughout who ever speaks to the guy. She doesn't become pregnant if she's sent to the clinic.
If Adella, or Eileen, or the Old Woman had spoken to the Dweller, they would have become mothers.
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>>174930476
There are heavy implications that she's a descendant of Cainhurst nonetheless. Also, of course she wouldn't become pregnant in the clinic, she becomes an ayylmao
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I'll edit a picture just for you, meme
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>Oedon impregnates women
>Oedon is formless
>Oedons supposed child is mergo, a great one
>Oedon is itself a great one.

sounds a lot like how jesus was born

>The holy spirit enters the woman mary
>mary then births jesus
>the holy spirit is formless
>the holy spirit is god
>jesus is also god

Holy shit guys I cracked the code
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>>174930730
So is Oedon the only Great One capable of conceiving a child?
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>>174930623
She's all but said outright to be a descendant, the only reason she became pregnant was because of the Chapel Dweller. Neither Adella nor the Old Woman become pregnant, and they never speak to him. The hunter, assuming the hunter is female, never speaks to the Dweller (yet is good friends with the poor sucker), and doesn't become a mother.
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>>174930832
I hope i didn't imply that in my post considering orphan of kosm exists
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>>174930956
Damn, that's right, how could I've forgotten.
Then why the insists on Great Ones being unable to have children? Or does that mean that they need humans for this precisely?
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>>174931083

It says in game on several items that Great Ones can have children, but they ALWAYS lose them so they seek human surrogates.
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>>174930848
Well, doesn't Arianna get impregnated anyway if you talk to the Church Dweller, kill him, and send her there afterwards (or if you run back after talking to Arianna and kill him)?
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@174930921

here's my shit edit and attempt at oc
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>>174931374
That would require killing the Dweller, you heartless monster. This also seems like far too much effort to prove a rather small and relatively insignificant lore point.
>>174931518
Gehrman's daydream/10, anon, quality work
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>>174930730
Odeon is the cosmos
Micolash's rant in the nightmare is him coming to an epiphany that he's not talking to Kos(m), he's contacting Odeon, whose kid is stuck at the top of the nightmare of Mensis
"The cosmos, of course!" is him realising Odeon is everything and everywhere and the mensis boys have likely been contacting him without realising for years
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>>174931518
I'm also not sure what to make of that.
Could you post the original art, I don't seem to have that one saved
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>>174931973
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2679276
Here's the original

Made another one
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>>174931890
One of my characters is practically a jerkass so I'd killed him some time ago, I think (or that might be Adella)

I think I also have Arianna on the Chapel, time to see if she gets preggo or not
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>>174932517
Did she arrive in the Chapel before the Dweller died, or after?
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>>174932668
I think after, I'm foggy on the details, may be misremembering it all, even.
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@174932598
That was friday's fc
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>mfw the chapel dweller is possessed by Odeon to bring women to the chapel so they can be impregnated
>mfw the sceptic man was right and we can't trust him
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Anyone got character sliders?
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>>174933171
Gary was LITERALLY only trying to help, he has no unique dialogue if you're a grill, you leave him out of this
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>>174932815
Now that I think about it, there could be another reason Queen Yharnam and Arianna were selected, but Annalise was passed over. The Pthumerians had dabbled in all manners of the Great Ones, so having one of them bear a child of Oedon was a foregone conclusion. Arianna, bearing Cainhurst blood which likely borrows heavily from Pthumerian blood, was prepared in the way Queen Yharnam was. She was also simply in the right place at the right time.
Annalise, however, has completely rejected the Church which worships Oedon, essentially insulting Oedon's servants. He wouldn't want any of that, and passed her by.
Or maybe he just developed a weakness for women of the night after the little fiasco with the Pthumerians and Mergo.
>>174933171
This...makes sense. Doesn't he give the Triumph gesture only after a woman arrives in the Chapel? But we can still trust him.
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I want to play str/arc. Are the spells stronk enough at 50 arc?
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>>174862451
is gehrman the last boss, should I do the DLC before beating him?
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where do I find a snatcher pre-rom but post-amelia
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>>174933314
I always called him nigglet
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last shitty edit

Now I'm going back to my hole
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>>174933521
Not telling, and yes
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>>174933558
Kill BSB. There's a Snatcher outside in the corner of the Cathedral Ward.
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>>174933610
neat
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>>174933486
Yes, ACB and Tiny Toni won't be amazing but the first will do decent damage. Exe Gloves, Brew and BSE will be your main projectiles either way with the occasional Augur.
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>>174933314
Then why does he have an Odeon rune in his head that describes Odeon and his inadvertent worshippers
Is it just a coincidence the guy described as a madman by the odeon chapel key is one of the friendliest people in the game and encourages you to bring people - two of whom are birth-able women - to Odeon chapel, one of whom gets immediately pregnant the second the mensis ritual is broken?

The chapel beggar is an unwitting pawn of Odeon. Kill him, it's the safest option.
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>>174932789
goodnight meme machine
as far as tripfags go, you're kinda alright
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>>174933662
so in other words in order to not kill djura I have to find a snatcher pre-amelia otherwise I'm fucked


thanks
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>>174933773
No, you can kill BSB and still befriend Djura. All you have to do is gain insight from seeing Darkbeast Paarl and go to Djura's tower without hitting any beast on the way there.
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>want to play str/arc, partly for memehammer shenanigans
>can't get the uncanny/lost versions until way late
Life is pain

>>174933697
ACB is still a decent nuke against things like BLB, Ludwig, and Ebby tho right?
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>>174933698
So kill one of the few who immediately jumps to the chance to make our acquaintance and form a friendship, admires our status as a hunter rather than curses us, and is one of the last few sane people in the entire game? Swell idea, friendo.
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>>174934007
Is there a ritekeeper gondola?
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>>174933987
BLB sure, other 2 maybe not. At least Chalice Bribri, main game will melt with 40+ Arc ACB
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>>174934007
He keeps bones in jars. Totally legit. *eye roll*

Nah, kill him immediately and take his stuff.
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I don't know if I want to copy Barry's ARC/SKL build. or just go pure SKL.

I just wanna use the burial blade, man.
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>>174933698
>inadvertent worshippers

Boyo sits inside Oedon Chapel all day, of course he'd have it. He wants to save people from the hunt because he has lots of incense and he allows anyone in because he is nice. He is the best boy and how dare you.
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>>174934089
There isn't, to my knowledge. If and when the Gondola anon comes back, we can put this in as a request.
He hasn't been around for awhile, and we have more friends to add to the group photo.
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>>174934007
>He fell for Odeon's plan
It's like you want to birth great ones into our reality
Kill every person you come across, if it moves its a beast, if it doesn't move you can't trust it. There's no humans left in Yharnam. Trust me, KILL THEM ALL.
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>he doesn't kill gary as soon as he enters the chapel
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>>174905381
I'd buy something with the hunter's symbol on it but it's basically a vagina.
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>>174905381
I need a big Rom plushie
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>>174934276
Sounds like you've gone blood-drunk and are a danger to the safe people in the chapel
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>>174933610
I fucking love it.
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>>174934276
We can get you help, we'll send a nice person dressed as a crow your way to calm you down.
>>174934383
We all need a big Rom plushie.
I'd want to see the Hunter's Badges as necklaces or something.
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>>174934174
go str/arc and surrender yourself to autism
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>>174934549
help me get burial blade and I'll do it
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>>174934757
>help me get burial blade and I'll do it
wut
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>>174931956
>Odeon

Opinion promptly discarded.
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>>174934839
but anon... it is odeon
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>>174934910
It literally isn't. Let me guess, you call her Losefka too, don't you?
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>>174934549
Does the HP drain hurt much if I don't have a pulsing gem sidearm? I have a +65 +15 abyssal but was hesitating to use it, though it's the only usable I have.
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>>174934986
yes, and kosm not kos
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>>174935281
its not kosm
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>>174935203
I run a +5 health pulsing in my buss and that helps a lot, but if you just keep it put away while your not fighting its fine.
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>>174934549
>>174934174

What's the point of str/arc and skl/arc builds anyways?
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What's the best starting class for a str/arc build? I feel like the str boost from violent past would be more beneficial early game
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>>174935314
yes it is
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>>174935384
Wheel
HMS
BoM
BB
Hunter tools
Its not blt

>>174935401
Cruel fate is the most point efficient
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>>174935384
Weapon conversion, mostly. Also Arc bonuses from certain weapons like the Tonitrus or Wheel.
>>174935401
Either that or Cruel Fate, just to be sure you don't waste a few points in Blt. CF also has the highest starting Arc, which helps greatly.
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>>174935429
>Kos parasite
>Orphan of Kos
>sweet child of Kos
>by the wrath of mother Kos
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>>174935380
But is it really worth it if I otherwise have three watcher gems? It nets me about 20-30 AR increase. Seems like too much of a hassle, although that wont stop me from an occasional HBLB grind.
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>>174935626
When you think about it, this whole argument is Micolash's fault. He says both Kos and Kosm during the fight.
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>>174935691
Even he refers to it as Kos, only going on to say "some say" Kosm
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>>174935626
>>174935691

Just because most people say Kos, doesn't mean that some don't say Kosm.
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>>174915995
Does Yamamura ever trick it? It could be "this guy needs a katana and we don't want to code another in this game, just give him chikage, write an AI script preventing him from tricking, and call it a day."
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>>174935660
three 27.2 temperings will work okay, but its not as good as two HA. remember that the BB has pretty high multipliers so 20-30 points is a big difference
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>>174936004
I'd imagine he does, but I don't recall seeing it.
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>The "dodge being the same key as jump and being unable to dodge out of a sprint" meme is so fucking real even NPC hunters accidentally jump

Why the fuck didn't they keep it on L3?
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>>174936220
>trying to speed through shit for a weapon
>damage is so low I get bumrushed by Witch of Hemwick summons
fug :DDD
>>
>>174936220
>I'M SOMEBODY'S MOMMY
>>
>>174935550>>174935568
>Cruel fate is the most point efficient
Gotcha. I just want to start the build off as a strength build with kirk, with a little arc investment as it progresses until I hit 25 str so violent past works better to that end

BUT

Cruel fate nets me one more point in END and one less BLT at lv 98 so I'll go with that :DD
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What gems should I shoot for on a beast blades build?
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>>174936749
>beast blades build
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>>174936749
b-beast blades?
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>>174936980
>>174937286
>they didn't kill FRC Depth 10 Laurence for the Beast Blades
nu /bbg/, I tell ya
>>
>>174936980
>>174937286
Err beast CLAW

Just typing posts quickly like a retard between loading screens
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>>174936749
>beast blades
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>>174937374
Same gems as any other Str weapon
>>
I wish they added repsecs for the DLC, even limited to a few per NG cycle.

The amount of autism grinding you have to do per character is brainmelting.
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>these scrubs don't know about the beast blade
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>BEAST BLADES
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>>174937579
but that adds to the replayability anon
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>>174937352
>>174937743

>They didn't get the Beast Blade and Guidance 3 from FRC Laurence

lmaoing at ur life
>>
>>174862451
I'm going to have to farm OOS's for Bloodletter aren't I.
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>>174937865
you should delet this shit off your computer
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>>174938071
Just use 27.2 phys gems
>>
>>174938071
depend if you want to end up necking yourself or not
>>
>>174937865
Those really are lame as hell, not to mention derivative.
>>
>>174938071
Where do you even get OOS? Just the watcher in that one Isz chalice for regular BLT gems and get lucky?
>>
>>174938075
>implying those are mine
You stop that now, this autism has been posted before
>>
>>174938071
Just use this build with physical gems
>>
>>174937865

While these are awful, a Fist Weapon would have been nice. I mean I know the unruned Parasite exists, but come on now.
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>>174937743
>The FextraLife logo in the corner

Fucking kek
>>
>giant bloody mace
>unzip edgeblade
>swordbow
>snek
>BIG FUCKING GUNZ

STR/BLT really is the build of the supreme gentlemen
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>>174938671
I didn't even notice that until now, it actually seems like something they'd do.
>>
>>174937865
deathmarch is a cool weapon idea, especially if the song you played changed on your insight
>>
>>174938405
i know those arnt yours you silly cunt, i mean the fact you actually saved it is fucking stupid so delet it
>>
>>174938834
Maybe, but is just seems so outlandish, even for BB. It's good to have variation and unique items, but something like this is just too much.
If it were a mace that split into twin axes, essentially a Str BoM, I could get behind that.
>>
Will the doll cry if I leave?
>>
>>174939246
>It's good to have variation and unique items, but something like this is just too much
someone give me the pasta with the WEAPONIZED GRANDFATHER CLOCK
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>>174939354
If you leave the Dream, no. She understands why. But she'll always be there when you need her.
>>
>>174939507
She wanted to be your princess, but she's just a doll
>>
>>174938380
Please respond
>>174938380
>>
>>174939620
>just a doll
A
N
O
N
>>
>>174939620
>implying not a princess
>>
>>174939246
>>174939389
Have its tricked form do no attacks but buff summoned hunters.
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>>174939620
Those are not mutually exclusive conditions, anon. Have you no heart?
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>>174939693
>>174939657
>she finally gathers courage to tell you she loves you
>try to make it sound natural
>you just shrug it off because "it's just a doll"
>you never notice her
>you never talked to her again after BL 98
>"of course he couldn't love me back, I'm just a doll"
>"just a doll"
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>>174939620
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>>174939905
This makes me feel incredibly guilty. Now I need to start talking to her whenever I return to the Dream.
Does she expect us to lack the love she feels for us, given the generations of hunters she's seen go by? Is she cursed to an existence of unrequited love for every hunter she sees? Why is this making me so sad?
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>>174939905
>you use her to test your damage
>or as a target to throw pebbles at when you're bored
>sometimes you hit her just to see her bleed
I DON'T DESERVE HER.
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>>174940232
>>174939905
>ever doing this

your all no better then beasts
>>
>>174940232
She still loves you even if you hit her
Why can't you love her back, anon? Why did you stop talking to her and gesturing to her? She just see you pass by as you farm korean gems, wondering if you will ever talk and gesture with her again.
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>>174940232
wtf anon
>>
>>174940232
>>174940401
It's quicker just to attack her. You get to still use her options (e.g. leveling up) without having to wait through all the dialog.
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>>174940232
>sometimes you hit her just to see her bleed
That's weird, anon
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>>174940529
>I'm so good
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>>174940593
Got you
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>>174940529
Don't take Annalise's blood, kids, it's bad for you. Just try to stay away from blood in general, a heavy usage will inevitably come back to bite you.
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>>174940886
>>174941052
Cranston uses parasite in such a fucking cancerous way it physically hurts
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>>174941052
should rename this and every webm with cranston in it to nofunallowed
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>>174941168
cransons alright dude
>>
So I'm new to PvP. What makes Cranston such a cancerous parasite user compared to other people that use the weapon?
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>>174941394
An infamously poor connection and unrivaled phantom range
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>>174941394
>dash r1
>dash r1
>dash r1
>dash r1
>dash r1
>dash r1
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>>174941394
>O
>r1
>repeat
>>
So, is every bit of PvP before these fight clubs just two/three people waiting for you?
I put so much time into DaS1 random invasions, but this is just tiring
>>
New thread when?
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>>174941631
Eventually, it always comes around.
Right?
>>
>>174941631
when someone goes and makes one
>>
I like seeing people I recognize from our co op funs in these webms. Feels so wholesome
>>
new thread for you cutiepatooties

>>174941961
>>174941961
>>174941961
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>>174942004
Fuck. Ignore mine and go to the one above

>>174942001
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