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Ace Combat General #293


Swedish Edition


Thread Theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU


Previous Mission
>>174030215


<< AC4/5/0 Emulation Guide >>
http://imgur.com/a/Ds5aK

<< AC3 (JP) Emulation and Patch Resources >>
http://pastebin.com/Q3njXFpu

<< /aceg/ Archive Mega >>
https://mega.nz/#F!Zs8nSQQB!oAp4FFtvBmgu4MHwnKU6dQ!Ykl10IIJ

<< AC website >>
http://acecombat.com/

<< AC website (JP) >>
http://acecombat.jp/

<< Project ACES twitter (JP) >>
https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ACEINF
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AC7:

Multi-plat port confirmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zxB1ahoz_M&t [Embed]

PSX 2016 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezm_kZ9Mi20 [Embed]

Returning to Strangereal.
Directed/written by Sunao Takabuchi and Kosuke Itomi.

This is everything we currently know (or think we know) about AC7:
http://pastebin.com/SWN1R7tj

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AC:I:

<< AC:I website (JP) >>
http://ace-infinity.bngames.net/

<< AC:I Plane Builder >>
http://infbuild.sorairo.pictures/#011n010001010000000000000001

<< Update 13 trailer: https://youtu.be/y0Kyw7xXFvg [Embed] >>
Gold Box? Probably 30 tickets

<< Aircraft and Damage Calculator >>
http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/ (use Text to export build into text format)

<< /aceg/ Assault Records >>
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP07-JbjTjXkD5nQlNkC0I8WidP_AXD1K4S9jESx-Jk/edit?usp=sharing

<< /aceg/'s guide to AC:I >>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K3RrtoLfs089WDdEyhmBg6r7ge2j7WS-_-iXkCYOyrg/edit


In other news:
A true Buddy is making an AC inspired PC game: http://rb-d2.tumblr.com/
Someone else is making an open-source thingy based on AH assets: http://zxstudio.org/blog/author/razgriz/
Good ol' Razgriz Patch Guy: http://strangerealpatches.storenvy.com/
RPG Logs database: http://pastebin.com/m7WgAifw
Old OP: http://pastebin.com/whkD5Wmh
AC0 cutscene transcripts: http://pastebin.com/1inm64mm
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>>174720090
Don't post streams that aren't from /aceg/
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So I just like AC 4, 5, and 0. Is AC:I worth anything for me at this point?
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>both threads die at the same time
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>>174720590
it's the best in the series when it comes to plane roster, superweapons and gameplay

but when you play it, you will be fucking depressed because its F2P
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>>174725306
It also looks like ass because of the engine they used.

What the fuck happened to the AC6 stuff, that shit was gorgeous.
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Why is the YF-23 so cute?
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>>174728057
Thin and curvy.
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>>174728556
don't put your dick in the exhaust port
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>>174728556
Another reason for why it should've won.

>>174728694
Planefus are for flying and properly maintaining.
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>>174728954
And like a retard I forgot the image.
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Added the mirage 2000 as the orange line.

Considering taking requests for more planes if people want to see how their planefu stacks up against the competition.
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>>174729237
I'll take something that probably has some data on it.
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>>174729575
Piston fighters don't really work on that scale.
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>>174730314
Not with that attitude.

How about a Mirage III with canards?
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>>174730902
Is a Kfir C2 or C7 close enough?

Those are basically Mirage IIIs with canards and they swapped the junk Atar engine for J79s.
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>>174731269
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
MIRAGE A CUTE AND STRONG SINGLE ENGINE FIGHTER
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>>174731658
If only it's endurance wasn't fuck all. But it's an interceptor so who cares.
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>>174731658
>>174730902
These get less accurate the more planes that are added, but here's the Kfir C.7, a BETTER mirage III.
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were fuckn dead these days

y?
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>>174735516
Still no news, plus that retard that keep reporting the namefags isn't helping.
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>>174735516
There has been no news for since the end of last year. Some of us don't even know what we're fighting for anymore.
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>>174736286
>>174735846
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>>174736397
Don't worry buddy, I still got my reason to fight.
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>>174736397
>you will never be an airplane
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>>174736669
Not with that attitude
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>>174733435

Cleaned up version
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>>174738482
What's the deal with Tiger-chan at .5 Mach?
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>>174738948
If you want my guess, it's because of the maneuver flap settings at speed. Either structural or lift limited. Up through 200 KIAS, they're listed as 24/20 degrees. At 200-250 KIAS they're listed as 18/16 degrees. From 250-550 KIAS they're listed as 12/8 degrees.
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<<Pull up!>>
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>>174744131
>fsheeeeeeew!
Cute
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So how long before we put railguns on our plens?
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and a bump
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEIsFh4DXY8

>80s Ace Combat never
>this will never play for the intro and subsequent final level (a furball encompassing dozens of jets around and inside a giant airship with a massive hangar bay and dozens of nuke launchers)
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>>174750810
mother of kek, wrong song. How do you get a post deleted anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
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>>174750943
>How do you get a post deleted anyway?
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most intakes are stupid looking
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>>174719427
>Ace Combat General #293
>293
Congratulations, anon
You fucked it up
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>>174755398
he also left the embeds in
if only Brady wasn't banned
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>>174758182
Why would Brady get banned?
What did he do?
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>>174736669
Not with that altitude
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>>174759241
Deflategate
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Is the F-14 the greatest plane of all time?
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>>174768430
Haven't ever flown one (or any plane at all) so I can't answer anon.
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bump for sleep
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>>174768430
Is the F-14 not gonna be in AC7?

Even if it is, then what if the F-14 only appear in AC7 as target drones for shooting practice?
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>>174774305
>Even if it is, then what if the F-14 only appear in AC7 as target drones for shooting practice?
Please do this Bamco, the salt from Tomcatfags will be absolutely delicious.
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Watcha listening to /aceg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnpXCaOSA4
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>>174775781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmqPe4P5mkE
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>>174775781
Is it time to post qt VFs again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nN9Y0w-SY&spfreload=1
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Can someone redpill me on Arma 3 and Jets? I recall someone mentioning them here earlier.

They don't seem to be out yet, but I see some people playing with them. So I'm just curious, with it being on sale as is and all.
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>>174788327
You're not looking in the right place for your answers.
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>AC7 is released
>Bamco released a free DLC mission
>Said mission involves you shooting down all puchis gliding in the sky
>It has blood and gore
>It is a simple shooting practice mission
>Completing the mission rewards you with abundant credits that should he enough for you to buy five planes complete with their special weapons
>Completing it on S rank gives you access to high-tier jets immediately
10/10 would download and play it.
What about you, aces?
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>>174788751
*be enough
Damn typo
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>>174788751
>generic shitting-on-puchis post
Can you at least try to be original? That particular horse has been beaten to death for over a year.
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>>174788751
I would pay a lot of money for people to stop puchi posting in general.
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>>174788924
Even if it is anti-puchiposting?
That picture shows the awesomeness of the Galm Team clearing the sky from those gremlin-like creatures
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>>174775781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3frA_rj918
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>>174788884
OK. How about multiplayer-only mission which involves two players with one player skydiving from the space elevator while the other must provide cover until he/she reaches the ground safely? Both the skydiving and fighter jet gameplay can be played either in VR or non-VR mode. The skydiver can be controlled freely during freefall and parachuting phase.
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>>174789975
Whoah shit is this an actually original and fun mission concept?
I like it


See what you can do when you hop off the autistic bender?
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>>174789975
That sounds neat, as long as getting shot in the face by a missile in VR doesn't give you a heart attack or something.
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>>174790286
>Talking about a "game over" scenario in VR
This just came to me:
Will getting shot down while playing in VR mode in AC7 treats the player to distant 3rd person view of his/her plane going down in flames like pre-ACAH AC games or simply just the 1st person camera staggering like in ACAH or see the jet exploding around him?
Or will the screen goes black with "mission failed" text showing like in Airforce Delta Strike?
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>AC7
>7
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>>174790794
The camera will spin wildly, all the garbage flying around you, including your own cooked body parts.
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>>174790794
>or simply just the 1st person camera staggering like in ACAH
Or you could punch out, watch your jet explode, and then the screen fades. That would be neat.

Wouldn't work for you crashing the jet, though.
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>>174791420
Obviously there's also gonna be a extremely long and loud doom-esque scream of agony.
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>>174791420
>cooked body parts
Ugh, did the same thing happen to Yellow 4 and Yellow 13 when Mobius One shot them down?
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>>174793274
Yes.
Enjoy your deep fried waifu.
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>>174790286
A sheer heart attack?
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>>174793274
The alternative is gaping 20mm holes in their bodies and/or shattered pieces of flanker stuck where they shouldn't be.
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Why is the Razgriz Tomcat solid black, but the Super Tomcat is that ugly grey and black camo?
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>>174794925
Because then the Razgriz Tomcat wouldn't look cooler by comparison.
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inb4 >pol
I voted today. Man was that a hard choice.
New RL plens when
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>>174795091
Who's up for election anyway? I heard some people at work talk about it a week or two ago, but my baguette wasn't good enough to really follow it in detail.

We'll have to see what the fuck Iran is doing with their mess of a mockup. I don't think there's much else in terms of fighters going on as is.

Airliners have some stuff going on.
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>>174795019
Basic Tomcat isn't cooler though, its not SUPER Tomcat.
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>>174795091
Might see something come out of the not quite first world but also not third world countries. They've got a knack for new designs
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>>174795524
My take on it. Blue and red for right wing/left wing

Oh yea, the memest plane of them all. That thing made me cringe.
Also a shame that the only countries designing fighters are basically Murica, Russia, "China", the eurofighter bunch, and France
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So thunder, have you been here before?
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>>174796468
>Forgetting the gripen
[AuS-tank screeching]
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>>174796665
Sorry, sweden too.
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>>174795091
About to vote too

This twisted game needs to be reset
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>>174796468
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>>174796629
Orlando executive airport?
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>>174758182
He got banned?

Lmao
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This thread has some really good examples of both high and low function autistic people.
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>>174775781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
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>>174798965
Ye
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What would the Belkan superweapon in WW1 be?
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>>174808035
Paris gun equivalent, or a really big armored zeppelin.
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Name one thing the Super Bug can do that a Falcon can't
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>>174809120
Carrier operations
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>>174809274
https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2017/04/21/pilot-safe-after-fa-18-from-carl-vinson-crashes-near-the-philippines/

Might want to revise your statement.
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>>174808461
What about a paris gun on a giant armoured zeppelin?
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>>174809465
Nope. Everybody knows that F/A-18 can launch from a carrier and land on it. So there.
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>>174774305
>Is the F-14 not gonna be in AC7?
Oh look, it's Speculation-anon, back at it again with his bullshit claims and overall faggotry.
Fuck off already.
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>>174809120
Stay in active use in America?
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>>174789975
>playing as a skydiver
>in a game about shooting down planes with other planes
Yeah, how about FUCKING NO.
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>>174811489
The Falcon is still in use in the USAF, and is slated to still be flying at least in the 2020's due to how F35 procurement is going down.
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>>174811489
The F-16 is currently being actively used in multiple applications. For instance as a target drone.
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>>174812152
>spoiler
No matter your opinion on it, that still triggers the feels.
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>>174812234
Victim Viper
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>>174812740
Is there anything this guy didn't make a comic about?
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>>174812974
Covered a surprising amount of material
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>>174813116
I guess the issue is that you have to be fully into it to fully get half the shit he puts out. It's great, but I won't pretend to know enough about modern fighters to follow it without the notes.
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>>174813426
His comics tend to come with blog post explanations. The translation blog generally translates those too.
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Has a jet fighter ever actually shot down a helicopter before or is that just a movie/game thing?
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>>174818019
A F-15E downed a helicopter (in flight) with ground ordnance, Israeli F-16's downed 2 Syrian Mi-8s
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>>174818019
An F-15E 'shot down' a Hind with a 2,000lb bomb.
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Page 9 for Super Tucano when?
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It's time.
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>>174820683
>prop
Hopefully never, if they were going to add a cheap light attacker it should be the Scorpion
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>>174818680
>>174818757
Did they hit it directly or was it just caught in the blast?
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>>174796468
From what I understand the French pre-election polls were very accurate, and showed Macron winning in a landslide for the second round of votes. Is all of that correct?
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>used flight stick my whole life when playing Ace Combat
>always sucked at using the gun
>try playing AC with controller
>almost always use it with precision accuracy

how the fuck
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>>174821912
Direct hit I believe.

The F-15E was able to lock onto the radar return from the blades
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>>174821996
Pre-election polls were rather accurate, with the favorites being Macron and another dude. Le Pen beat him and is second now.
Onto the second phase of the vote now, where we decide between Le Pen and Macron
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>>174821912
https://theaviationist.com/2016/02/14/f-15e-shot-down-iraqi-mi-24/

Sounds like it was dropped directly on it, also an F-14 shot down a helicopter too. So it seems that shooting down helicopters is uncommon but it does happen.
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>>174822281
>>174822443
Holy shit, how cool is that?
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>>174822813
Not very cool if you're piloting the Hind, you just pissed and shit yourself as a 2,000lbs bomb is sitting in the cockpit and you're vaporized in a couple of seconds. All that's said at your cremation SkyEye notifying the pilot they shot down a chopper.
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>>174823426
I don't think there was much shit to be had after that
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Shouldn't the Su-33 be a Multirole?
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>>174775781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4odD2Bg1_0
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>>174815346
The little explanations are probably my favorite part about those comics.
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>>174827541
Technically most fighter planes are multiroles but videogames have to balance shit out for gameplay reasons.
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>>174834361
The legacy Tomcat and Eagles didn't have any air to ground capabilities
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>>174835889
Should have specified nowadays.
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>>174835889
the eagles did
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>>174835889
Someone asked that earlier and thunder said they did.
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>>174836621
C-Types aka Legacy Eagles as far as I know don't have any air to ground systems
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>>174837061
Tell that to israel when they get back from bombing nuclear reactors.
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Why ever use the A-10 over the Tornado? Don't you want a plane with some speed and turning?
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>>174841591
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>>174842738
but it doesn't make a BBBBRRRRRRRRTTTTTT sound in game and the gun doesn't even do more damage compared to others
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>>174837061
You'd think that, but the Israelis are as clever as they are tenacious
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>>174842883
Certain installations like AC0 has an increased damage plus the BRRRRRRRRT sound iirc
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>>174811472
>>174811584
>Negativity anon
(You)
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Where the hell is mission 12A in AC5? trying to hunt for FALKEN parts
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>>174844849
12A is Powder Keg. You gotta answer yes to Chopper when he asks you about the song in Blind Spot (10).
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>>174845651
Fuck so i have to do multiple playthroughts for FALKEN?
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>>174846271
Afraid so. Then again the Falken is incredibly expensive (826k iirc) so might want to start saving your credits now anyway.
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Can a fighter pilot communicate to his fellow wingmen with both of his hands off the stick and throttle?
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>>174788924
What is a puchi and why does it set people off?

Is it derived from the old cartoon show Poochini?
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>>174843912
It might BBBRRRRRTTTTT but the damage is the same as all guns
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How the fuck do i do Mission 15 in AC5? the fucking rescue choppers just dies in less than a minute all the time
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>9
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>>174851374
It's tedious. You just gotta be really fast with killing IIRC.
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>>174788924
I'm open to bribes. How do I set up a BTC wallet?
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>>174858407
Just make and shill a patreon
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>>174861223
We're done for, aren't we
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>>174864085
The snow comes for us
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>>174864085
<<We WILL survive, Galm 1>>
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<< CAUTION. INCREASE. POST RATE. >>
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So when will they add toilet bombs?
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>>174858407
So this chibi creature is a puchi.
Kinda weird albeit cute, but why anons are so irritated about it?
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Can a literally headless person become a fighter pilot?
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>>174869898
Usually being headless means you're dead.
If a blind person could somehow connect with a camera to the brain and use that camera as a pair of eyes, then it could be possible.
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>>174858737
>we have reached an age where people can take money to improve the quality of their shitposting

The free market really did fix it.
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New demo soon.
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>>174876686
>Su-27
>leaves in the wind
>SQUADRON OVERHEAD
Looks great. Also a bit anime
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>>174876686
>Flanker
Gross nigga
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>>174876686
>>174876936
Just need a girl in a flight suit pointing at the sky and we're kino
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>>174876686
My PC can't take it even at lowest possible quality.
FML
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Why don't F16s ever have Mavericks?
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Has Bamco ever delayed any Ace Combat game or, in broader context, any of their games?

Also, 50 days until E3 2017
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>ded
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>>174789975
That's a big plane.
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>>174883196
V2
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>>174876686
nice
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Finished The Holy Trinity.
Thinking of replaying it all again on hard/ace.
Should I go SP. Continue or just start a New game?
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>>174885821
SP, ace, canon plane for all of them.
Then ace with only the first plane.
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>>174886052
Ok, let me get this straight then.
AC4: F-22
AC5: F-14A
AC0: F-15C or J35J?
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>>174886331
Sounds good, personally I prefer the F-15C for ACZ since it's the one on the cover and flying the same plane as everyone's favourite buddy is cool too
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>>174886331
Yes, then F-4, F-5 and the starters in Zero.
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>>174886574
Your starter in 5 is also a F-4, which reminds me what kind of shitty squadron doesn't fly the same models? 2 F-4s and 2 F-5s?
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>>174886734
What? Not it's not.
Blaze, Nagase and Chooper fly F-5's. Bartlett flies an F-4
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>Pilot Swordsman in AC5 is black
>black swordsman
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>>174887532 (Du)
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if any of you know, what is the drawback in using CRC Hacks?
And what is the best option?
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>>174774461
>Tomcat only appears as dummy targets in AC7 and not as a playable jet
Yes, please
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>>174886331
>>174886574
>Ghosts of Razgriz
>White Bird I & II
>F-14A only
>F-5 only
AC5 never fails to remind me why it's the worst of the PS2 trilogy. Despite everything good about it, it's the only one that manages to be CONSISTENTLY unfun to play.
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Has the Tomcat not been in any Ace Combat aside from 3?
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>>174892842
Yes. It didn't appear in Ace Combat Advance on GBA and Ace Combat Xi : Skies of Incursion on iPhone, although as for the former it did appear as one type of the jets used by the enemy faction.
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>>174886331
Alternatively try autism mode

You're restricted to the actual amount of armament your plane could carry IRL.
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>>174893252
So what has the all time most appearances, individual models. F-16C?
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>>174893595
Probably the Su-27, though the F-16 is close
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>>174894101
The Su-27 isn't even in half the games, its not in 2, 04, 6, or playable in AH.
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>>174894386
Yes, but the variants are.

In terms of single individual models, yeah it's the F-16
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>>174893521
My friend kinda wants this of the new game.

Is it even remotely feasible?
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>>174868936
By the time we wage war to India I guess.

>>174876686
Fucking nice.
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>fighting the Arkbird in AC5
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>>174896907
>it fires that last booster
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>>174898117
<<Damn you, Razgriz>>
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Why is it so perfect?
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>>174896907
>it does a 90 degree bank, ignoring all physics.
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>>174902229
Did someone mention ignoring all physics?
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>>174902449
Fuck off with your shitty superplane and tailgun.
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>>174902449
Holy shit, I'm triggered.
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>1 minute until SOLG descends to a vulnerable altitiude

This is it, i've never finished AC5 for so long, and now i'm finally at the end

hold me, bros
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>>174904772
><<I just remembered, my birthday's next week>>
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>>174905320
It barely counts as a boss, but damn if that wasn't a good mission to end on.

>tfw died to solar panels on my first try
Good times.
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>>174904772
>CUM HISTORIA MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>174905565
Don't worry, i think we pretty much all died there once
I know i did
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Holy fuck AC5 may be the weakest in the holy trinity but its a damn good game, plagued by gimmicky missions and shit dialog

The SOLG battle made this whole thing worth it, did it without getting hit.

thanks /aceg/, for bringing me into Ace Combat
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>>174906486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSIzQqQ8AhE

There is some good feels in this series.

Here's to ten great titles exclusing AH and Advance.

Twelve if you count Sky Crawlers and R:Racing.
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>>174902449
these little shits
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Which AWACS is best, in your opinion?
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>>174907486
I never saw a close-up of those fuckers until now.
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>>174907774
Skyeye from 0, with maybe the one from AC 6
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>>174907774
Oka Nieba.
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>>174907774
<< Roger that Avalanche. I'll just report you as gunned down and missing in action. >>

<< Don't give me that Sky Kid! It's past your bedtime! >>
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>>174907774
Oka Nieba

Thunderhead worst AWACS
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>>174908062
Shit i forgot this guy
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>>174908301
Well he's only in there for like two missions, but his voice is top tier.
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>>174908597
LALALA, LISTEN TO OUR BEAUTIFUL VOICE
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>10
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Stream where?
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Well, finally found the Pixy box that I brought 2 years ago and finished the galm team. Still waiting for AC7...
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>>174913594
Where you find it yourself
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>>174914281
That's pretty deep man.
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>>174914242
Looking good. I still want one of these. But I am shit at painting models.
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>>174916715
Get the prepainted ones.
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>>174916715
Those are tomytec's stuff. They are all pre-painted.
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>10
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Would a WW1 era Ace Combat work, or is it too entrenched in modern fighter jets?
It could be a fun oneoff spinoff game IMO
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>>174922640
Jets and missiles are pretty much the and butter of Ace Combat. We can really only go forward, not backwards.
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>>174922907
Well going forward would just be shooting missiles from further ranges that you can't dodge. If we were going to go forward we'd have to do it in adherence not to realism but to more fun things like lasers. Unfortunately real world pragmatism doesn't lend itself to good gameplay a lot of the time.
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>>174922640
Don't we have warthunder for that?
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>>174923071
Well warthunder isn't singleplayer nor storydriven
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>>174923172
but it's the closest you got
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>>174923617
Well, there's Secret Weapons over Normandy, but that's WW2.
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>>174924019
well Ace Combat doesn't follow WW1 or WW2 history but can bring planes from both those time period and make a game that revolves around one war, along with those crazy secret german projects as superweapons
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>>174922907
What kind of monster would call F35 ugly?
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>>174925097
It's pretty ugly.
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Never played any of these games

Should I play AC1-3 or should I just skip to 4?

Also hows 6?
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>>174926029
you can start anywhere you want but it's mostly recommended to start at AC4,5 and 0.

6 has the best gameplay but weak at plane roster. AC3 JP has the most original planes
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>>174926029
1-3 are black sheeps, you'll be fine evading them.
4, 5, 0 is the holy trinity, they are the definition of Ace Combat, and thus, recommended.
6 isn't bad, it's a good buy and worth the time and money.
Stay away from Assault Horizon unless you're a masochist.
Assault Horizon Legacy (3DS) is a remake of 2, and is also a good buy.
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>>174926274
I'll say this though, Asshor has a pretty dope soundtrack, worth checking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muaIrJtifDw&t=2s
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>>174926260
>The PS2 games do not emulate well

Well fuck.

Seriously why haven't they released an HD collection for these games yet?
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>>174927208
purisu understanderu
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>>174927208
The studio has shown interest in doing it. I think the only matter is getting a green light from Namco
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>>174927208
>>174926260
Obligatory corrections that the PS2 games are much better at emulating now, guide in the OP, and that the 3 translation is finished
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>>174927446
can someone atleast update the guide?
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>>174927723
Whoever made the original has fallen off the face of the earth, and I don't know if anyone here has the gear to do editing
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>>174927950
i can, but i gotta do it tomorrow cuz college stuff
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I don't really know anything about American planes, is the F-[number] series just better the higher up you go? So the F4 is an ancient version of the F-35?
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>>174928536
They're different models, not "better" outright but often more recent and advanced technologically
But it's aa good simplist way to see it
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>>174928536
Newer designs have higher numbers. Sometimes you can draw vague evolutionary lines, but it's not an indication of iterative evolutions.
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>>174928536
The numbers go up based on designs, the F-5 came after the F-4. However, this is mostly getting played with and the rule is being ignored. The F-35 came from the X-35 design, but was named the F-35 instead of the next expected number, F-24.

The most consistency is the letters before the number, which designates roll. F being fighter.
"1962 United States Tri-Service aircraft designation system"
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>>174928536
F designates Fighters, A for Attackers. They came up with these designations in the 60s, so the higher the number the more modern generally. The Hornet and Super Hornet are F/A which is supposed to denote their multirole purpose but it was just to get Congress to ok them at the time they were in a "no more fighters" mindset.
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>>174928059
also, write what you want written and i'll put it in the guide tomorrow

put em in word, notepad, docs i don't care, just write what you want to see in the guide and i'll put it in. im not that well informed about emulation or translation so you guys know best and i'll put things together
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>>174893595
>>174895231
F-22 and EF-2000 have always been in every AC game as well
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>>174928769
>>174928806
>>174928889
>>174928937
But the most recent one is the F-22, right?
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>>174925097
Fifth gen fighters are all kind of dumpy and ugly compared to the fourth generation.
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>>174929892
For the Fighters...
F-20 Tigershark
I can't find an f-21
F-22 Raptor
YF-23 Black Widow II
F-24 to F-34 do not exist
F-35 Lightning II
F-36 doesn't exist yet

So the most recent one is F-35.
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Will AC7 have a B-1R?
I want MAAMs and MSAMs
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>>174930263
I still don't get why the USAF gave the F-20 an official designation if they never had plans to use it
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How does it make you feel that flight control software and aerodynamics modelling software have made variable geometry wings pretty much obsolete?
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>>174931060
As long as I don't see canards on my FREEDOM planes.
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Any way to fix "stretchy" audio and slowdowns?
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>>174930745
Northrop asked very nicely
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>>174928536
F-4 is better than an F-106, so that only holds true following the unification of numbers in the early 60s.
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>>174931060
Bad. Variable wings are cool.
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Okay so we all have our planefus, but what's the ugliest fighter? My vote probably goes for this monstrosity
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>>174932867
From Ace Combat, the MiG-21
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>>174932867
Every plane with rectangular intakes.
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>>174928536
The numbers go (roughly) in chronological order. The F-5 was introduced two years after the F-4, but only a fool would called it a better plane. The F-8 has a higher number, but is older (and worse) than the F-4.

>>174930263
F-21 was a Kfir C.1 and fitted with canards to use as aggressors for DACT.
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>>174930263
F-24 is what could have been the stealth Tomcat
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>>174936772
Source on that claim?
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>>174936962
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230209-1.html
Many Tomcatfags love to refer it as the F-24
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Anyone got those two ACI comics about Viper talking about grinding and Omega with Nugget getting chased by Nagase?
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SAYONARA TO INTRUSIVE NOISE
NO MORE CHILDISH PLAYING
NO MORE TOYS
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>>174939062
I'm looking forward to blowing them up in a noisy, smoke-belching jet.
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>>174937928
And yet even your "Tomcatfag" source called it an F/A-22N
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>>174927723
The emulation guide? Yeah sure. My exams just ended, I'll do it soon.

>>174927950
I'm still here buddy.

Honestly I'm probably gonna put it in a pastebin or something.
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>>174939226
*teleports behind you*
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>>174942406
good, normies brought us Assault Horizon.
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>Thinking its going to be primarily air to ground
>half the targets are in air
>Having a whole squadron flying up your ass
Last time I ever take the A-10 out
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>>174944023
What mission?
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>>174942406
Literally who?
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>>174944023
Did you pack Sniper OS?
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>>174944526
>>174944409
AC6, Anea Landing just got it delivered today.
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>>174944648
Drag out something else with RCL, that shit's broken as hell
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>>174944702
RCL? Never thought of using that, its always been shit in the games I played. I was dropping FAEBs all over the place.
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>>174944818
Yeah, RCL was shit on the PS2 but got buffed to mad hell in 6, while the FAEB doesn't have the raw damage output to really take care of hardened/armored targets.
Really, all the bomb weapons are disgustingly powerful. I swear they turned up the explosion radius and power when they were doing beta testing and then just shipped with it because it worked out so well
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>>174938989
Someone help this fellow nugget
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>>174947447
I don't get it, what point does your picture make?
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>>174947912
to tell you that he has 300 confirmed kills
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>>174947447
ace of aces can get kinda annoying, provided you stick to normal planes rather than the nosferatu
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>>174950329
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>>174938989
>>174946612
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>>174952528
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>>174952854
GOTTA STAY FLY
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>>174952854
LOCKED ON MY MISSION
LOCKED ON TIME
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>>174947447
>a FUCKING LEAF
What's going on with your CF-18s? Still keeping them? Heard they were used recently though, to keep some Russian planes in check
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>>174952528
Nugget speaking. Where cna i find more of these? Google keep on showing me review sites
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>>174954054
The CF-18's are currently being used as lawn darts.

The meme in charge and his braindead Globe and Mail reading fanbase wants Super Hornets for some terribly retarded reason, but even that probably won't happen within our lifetime.
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>>174954401
>no one wants super hornets. except me maybe. we're getting f35s.
I'm just going off of news reports.
Have they really changed their mind?
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>>174954048
As far as I know, the closest thing to functional VTOL in Ace Combat are chopper missions in ACAH.
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>>174917170
>>174917858
Oh shit that exists? Are they still around?
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>>174954187
There don't seem to be that many of them unfortunately. I only got a handful of the images saved.
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>>174955653
Most recent one afaik, and last one I got.
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>>174954684
>what year do you think it is?
That's the thing, ain't it. Sensible option would be to go through with the purchase, but for the time being they're keeping mouths shut and treading water.

Maybe they just want to wait a while to avoid any kind of political backlash for going back on another dumb election promise.
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>>174886331
Canon plane for AC Zero is F-15C.
Canon starter plane for Zero is technically the J35J with the F-5E for 5 and the F-4E for 4.
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What is the best Europlane?
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>>174963001
Typhoon
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<<RISE RUSEGRIZ>>.
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>>174950627
He's got to be one of those puchifags who loves to dump puchis in this general
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>>174937928
>http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230209-1.html
>Ausairpower
That's a real great '''source'''
Some of their historical articles are alright, but the opinion pieces are seldom more than sprey trash.
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>>174947447
Not hard, but it is annoying to try and get something done while 6 Tomcats are trying to rape you with XLAAs and all you can do is be an A-10
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>>174948252
Don't see why Navy boys always have to talk shit about the superior service
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>>174963854
Gripen
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>>174977354
Meant for >>174963001
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>>174959590
What the hell with that face on the Arkbird's front fuselage?
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>>174977620
Someone's idea of an "ebin maymay joke"
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>>174880748
Why nobody answers this question?
No wonder this general is so dead
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>>174979934
have you considered nobody knows the answer?
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>>174980358
Diehard fans know the answer
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>>174981560
Well then Mr. Diehard-who's-been-counting-down, why don't you tell us yourself
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Why is Zero so short? Barely any voice acting, i don't think any cutscenes, and still only about 5-6 hours of game.
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>>174983376
Quality over quantity, buddy.

Also you can triple that time for the three kinds of ace.
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>>174983459
>Three kinds of ace
Lawful Stupid
Murderhobo
Ace Asshole
>>
Do you think the PC version of AC7 will flop in term of sales due to the number of arcade combat flight sims fans on PC isn't as large as those of authentic combat flight sims such as DCS and Falcon 4.0?
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>>174983459
>Quality over quantity, buddy.
Not that anon, but was I the only one who was underwhelmed by Zero?
A lot people praised it as THE BEST ever. I was disappointed.
Seems the only reason some like it is because of the buddy memes it created.
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>>174984171
Go ask /simg/. They're autistic enough to meet your autism with player counts
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>>174984570
>>174983313
>>174980358
>>174942406
>Negativity fags
(You)
kys
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>>174984720
Don't reply to the douchebag, anon.
It's not worth it.
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>>174984171
You were already told to cease your speculation.
>>
You know what I'm hoping for for AC7? A fucking dope replay system. Every other AC i've played has had one at the end, but they've looked kind of lackluster because you know, PS2 era games.
But AC7 would probably look dope as fuck in replay mode with slick camera angles
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>>174985484
Maybe he got bored from having to wait for nearly two months for the next big news regarding AC7

Poor guy
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>>174985524
That would be kinda sweet, yeah. Combine it with the recording programs that PS4 and Xbone has and there could be tonnes of fun.
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>>174986161
That's also a good way to get free marketing.
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I'm hoping that they remove the aircraft restriction bullshit found in ACAH and allow the players to be creative with any choice they made such as dogfighting against the enemy aces using the A-10 or the F-117.
Also, they'd better not fuck up the monumental missions in the game such as the final mission by only allowing certain jets to be used meaning some players don't get to use their favorite planefu to deliver the finishing blow to the enemy faction and fly away into the sunrise or sunset, depending on the time the mission takes place.

>>174985524
I agree with you anon. I hope that they bring back the replay system from AC6 because it retains the voice-over and the BGM.
>>
>9
>9gag
ded
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/67b1od/over_430000_sold_copies_of_assault_horizon_were/
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>>174990042
Yes, and?
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>>174990163
>>174984570
>>174980358
>>174983313
(You)
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>>174990759
I'm sorry, what?
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>>174990042
Not only you assume we couldn't go on reddit if we wished to, but you also fail to read the one comment worth anything in this thread.
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>>174991086
>what?
when?
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>>174991243
Where?
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Would Ace Combat work as a PvP game? 1v1 / 3v3 dogfights, using Infinity's mechanics as a baseline.
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>>174993371
You were already told to cease your speculation.
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>>174994342
>you may only speak when you're spoken to
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>>174994342
But what if AC7 PC gets cancelled?
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>>174994812
Then we'll all be very sad and commit sudoku
There. End.
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>>174995159
Because it should be most clear by now, that Bamco only wants to focus on its finest PS4 fans.
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>>174994812
>>174995462
Holy fucking shit kill yourself you actual retard. Go shit up /simg/ or some equally garbage general. Or better yet, fucking do something with your life than post low quality garbage bait on 4chan.

Get fucked and die.
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>>174995462
Oh it's you again
>>
Are XLAAs ever useful, using them at max range coupled with their spotty tracking always results in a miss on anything that isn't moving in a straight line.
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>>174984240
It's very concise. It's a game that distills Ace Combat down into all that's necessary and nothing more.
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>>175001958
AC04?
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>>175006059
Plens
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>>175010028
>>175006059
I can't believe we're struggling to bump right now.
Shitposting's over, we /ded/ now ?
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I fucking hate these drones in 6, its like they never stall
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>>175010995
At least it's quiet and not filled with shit
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has anyone made the updated guide?

if not, i'll do it, but im not that informed so you guys just write what you want to change in the guide and i'll put it together through photoshop
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>>175011443
Apparently the original creator has stuck around so he might be able to rework it.
Honestly, the only major corrections are to note that the English translation of the JP version of 3 is complete, and that PS2 emulation is reasonably doable now
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>>175012530
oh, that's great
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>>175012530
I'll do it sometime today though it'll probably be a pastebin guide. You're welcome to rework that into an image of you'd like, I just think it's a touch silly to use an image where text will do.
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>>175013732
Meant for
>>175011443

sorry for the confusion buddies
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>>175013850
<<Wilco>>
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>10
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ded
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>>174985524
A fucking free camera, please.

I don't want to watch a replay with only three different views of only my aircraft.
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>report fag
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>>175027369
he'll get bored eventually
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>>175027369
What even got deleted
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>>175027369
I bet this bastard here is the reportfag
>>174995849
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>>175027937
And what. You want us to go up in arms over someone doing something on the internet
We have lives and priorities, and this doesn't rank highly in either
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>reportfag thinking he's cleaning up the general
>instead, kills the board even further

or maybe that's his goal after all
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>>175028170
>makes no attempt to prove or disprove the claim
>instead just calls the claim stupid and stresses the claim isn't important

Found him
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Somehow I think that the ending song of Ace Combat Joint Assault and Cross Rumble(Assault Horizon Legacy) sound like those from classic cartoon movies directed by Don Bluth like An American Tail, Anastasia, and Thumbelina in terms of the style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Nfk_CNcq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt1F4Pgp6fQ
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>>175027868
grenade mans strim announcement
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>>175028336
>anons constantly ree at namefags and accuse them of killing the thread
>in spite of this, thread is high quality. discussion, fun and memes are had, camaraderie is all over the place

then

>reportfag begins reporting and tattling even the slightest offense to the mods
>namefags are now mostly gone, for the time being
>suddenly thread quality utterly tanks, worst it's been in a long time

Perhaps the namefags weren't the biggest problem.
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>>175028869
not to mention brady being still banned
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>>175028869
Puchis.
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>>175028885
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath

The demon soars through dark skies
Fear and death trail its shadow beneath
Until men united wield a hallowed sabre
In final reckoning, the beast is slain

As the demon sleeps, man turns on man
His own blood and madness soon cover the earth
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light
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>>175028885
More proof that it only takes one dedicated autist to ruin a general. Go fuck yourself, reportfag.
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>>175030043
This is too fucking relevant

Does that mean the thread is saved once Brady returns and resumes his obsessive Flanker posting?
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>>175030208
it'll be nice to have a well made OP again, thats for sure
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>>175030208
He'll need 3 other wingmen.

I wonder who...
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>>175030459
The carpenter group or whatever they are
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>>175032264
Isn't that just thunder and brady?
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>>175028170
>>175028885
(You)
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So the air to air Tornado is never going to show up again?
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>>175029876
>Puchis
>deleted
The reportfag should have been on/aceg/ years ago when he is needed the most due to cancerous amounts of autistic anons posting puchis
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that's fucking it. I have fucking had it with this shit.

Next time any of you wants a stream announcement posted, ask me. I'm sick and fucking tired of people getting banned for something that's """offtopic""" that's clearly in the interest of thread quality because some autist has his panties in a fucking twist.

Most of you have me on steam. If you don't, I'll be dropping by the aceg streams from now on (classes are fucking over thank Christ) and you can fucking add me.
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>>175038223
>that's clearly in the interest of thread quality
Here's to (You)
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>>175038364
Yeah get fucked shitter. I used to be like you. I used to think the streams were circlejerking, that thunder was an autist. You know why I don't anymore? Because I got to fucking know them. They're all actually great people. They improved this community through on topic posting, talking about planes, and yes, talking about the occasional non-ace combat game.

Have you ever actually contributed anything to anything? If you had, you might know how good it feels to see people's lives improved because of something you did, no matter how small of a change it might be.

Instead of actually improving the thread do you know what you do? You destroy it, simply because it's there. You think this is some great nihilist victory, but it's not. It's pathetic.

You're pathetic. And I will make my emulation guide for the pathetic like you anyway, because I care about this general more than I care about spiting you.
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>>175038720
Damn I'm too much of a newfag to remember you name but I like your style
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>>175038720
still against the rules.
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>>175038720
>anon goes V2 at newfags
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What do you want out of AC7's multiplayer, /aceg/?
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>>175038940
no QUALITY BAMCODE
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>>175038940
no fuel system
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>>175038940
AC multiplayer's never really been my thing, but a good co-op mode would be pretty sweet.
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>>175038940
Personally I want <<repoaht>>fag gone. Behind your keyboard at home, I want you to know just how bad everyone in this thread wishes you didn't exist. Please please please stop posting abd go away. It's not really that frustrating, it's just hateful of you, and that's really shitty.
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>>175038720
>Yeah get fucked shitter. I used to be like you. I used to think the streams were circlejerking, that thunder was an autist. You know why I don't anymore? Because I got to fucking know them.

I can disprove your thesis by directing everyones attention to this post >>174738482 clearly proof of autism.
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>>175038940
Infinity, but with actual quality of life choices.
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>>175038915
>anon
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>>175038720
I've been to the streams, guy, and I agree that they're comfy and filled with good people. But it doesn't change the fact that, although they might have been to start, they aren't related to this thread.

>Have you ever actually contributed anything to anything?
More to this general than you know or I will explain.

>You're pathetic.
Oh no, someone on the internet said something mean about me. C'est la vie.

Also, there's definitely more than one person reporting the streams. I've only been doing it for the last day and a half.
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>>175038903
>still against the rules
Fucking chug bleach you actual retard. Some rules are very obviously not good. The no advertising rule is one of them. It's very clearly not being used in the spirit of the law.

The point of the no advertising rule was to keep obvious ads off 4chan. Nobody is making money off streaming for /aceg/. It's a bunch of buddies showing each other things they think they'll like.

But you know this. You knew this when you were shitposting under all your other personas. You've always known this. You don't care.

This is the last post I will make on this subject. Again, anyone needs a stream posted, let me know.
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>>175039565
buddy, you're talkin to multiple people here.i like, and have no problem with tom and his plane autism, and that is related to /aceg/.
but streaming non jet combat games isn't /aceg/.
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>>175039687
your non aceg
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>>175039282
>having an interest is now autism
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>>175039282
>Val knows about planes in-depth
>Herp durp autism
You're a sad sack of shit to be cherrypicking harder than a farmer.

>>175039563
>More to this general than you know or I will explain.
Oh no, oh no you're not getting of the hook that fucking easy boyo. You can't just throw shit around and expect us to believe it, then demand that we source and convince you standardless fuck. Unironically, honestly, and seriously provide proofs, and drop the nihilistic cunt act.
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>>175039563

>More to this general than you know or I will explain.

Shitposting isn't contributing.
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>>175039687
I suppose then that I'm not /aceg/ because I'm not the literal code and files that make up the thread, which is fucking hilarious because I remember when Prec still stuck around
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>>175040085
Literally on the wrong side of history.
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>>175040085
Why are you pretending the streams are some kinda oldfag indicator when they only became a thing around 2014.
I've been posting since the AC:I beta.
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>>175040124
What side of history is he on?
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>>175040321
[current year argument]
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>>175040085
how can a nier automata/bloodborne/fotm videogame stream be considered /aceg/.
please, tell me.
no, talking about planes in the chat doesn't count.
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>>175040375
"It's not the planes, its the people"

>>175040167
2015, actually. Check your memories

>>175040374
>Memes as a relevant argument
I mean I shouldn't expect anything less, but I'm still disappointed
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>>175040375
You're not currently on topic. Do us all a favor and report yourself.
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>>175040658
It's not called /aceg/ - namefag general - though.
Tom Brady and co are cool dudes, and I like talking about planes with them, but anything other than that literally is not about Ace Combat, the game, or its subject matter of jet combat.
Its why I don't personally use a name or trip, despite contributing towards the thread every so often, because having and maintaining an internet persona on an anonymous imageboard isn't why I'm here. I'm here for the Ace Combat games and discussions about it.
>>175041064
I'm not the guy who reports everything, my dude.
Calm down and take a chill pill.
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>>175041275
Answer this.

How come just as soon as those namefags gets banned, the general becomes EVEN deader than before, with no discussion, no memes and no activity at all other than bumping?

You really went full of yourself dude, no matter how much you contribute, it wont wash away this autism. comfy streams, usual plane waifuing and buddy memes make this general's heart beat, and now it stopped just because it broke a few rules in an unmodded general

was it worth it? was it worth the effort and trouble over fucking strangers in a chinese carpet-weaving board?
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>>175041630
>with no discussion, no memes and no activity at all other than bumping?

bump
10
<< ded >>
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>>175041630
Streams weren't contributing towards the general discussion here though.
Namefags who kept the discussion to planes are cool, streams about unrelated games aren't.
Not hard math, buddy.
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>>175042041
you haven't answered the question.

how come the general died JUST THE STREAMS AND NAMEFAGS ARE GONE?
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>>175042041
Fine, one streampost per thirty or fifty regular posts triggers your autism. We get it.
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>>175042315
The thread is as alive as it ever was.
>>175042469
Good to see you understand.
Lets all stop being offtopic now.
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>>175042315
Not him, but it didn't. Averaging post counts and times across the last few threads, the post count is consistent at 4-5 posts an hour.
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what is happening
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>>175042630
>The thread is as alive as it ever was.

There's no AC discussion going on in here right now. just you vs the actual people in this general trying to come up with a discussion but can't due to one autistic man.

If the streams bother you, hide them. no one is forcing you to see them.

now because of this debacle, tom brady and several key namefags are banned. But hey, we get to talk to 3 same people about how Su-47 is better than F/22 Raptor you self-loving belkan
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>>175042760
How fucked would he be if he swung the nose up too far and dragged the tail across the deck?
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>>175042852
>we get to talk to 3 same people about how Su-47 is better than F/22 Raptor
Replace Raptor with Phantom and that's pretty much how the thread works even when the namefags are here.
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>>175042989
only thunder defends the phantom.

too bad he's gone because someone's fee fees got hurt by comfy streams
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>>175042852
Please stop, this has nothing to do with Ace Combat or planes.
>>175042856
Pretty fucked.
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>>175042315
this pic literally describes the reportfag

/aceg/ was fine until lawfags came
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>>175042675

#293 753 posts in 183 hours. 4.11 PPH No Namefags
#292 752 posts in 153 hours. 4.7 PPH Namefags

That's a pretty massive difference of 30 hours.
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>>175043367
>the reportfag
>everything wrong with the thread is blamed on a single bogeyman

Christ, it's like I'm really in /nepgen/.
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>>175043548
Hi ghost
Fuck off, ghost
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How /aceg/ is your book collection?
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>>175043426
293 had namefags, though.
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>>175043694
Please no.
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>9
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Any of you nuggets into ryona?
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>>175047180
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bumpyier
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a r e a r u l e
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>>175043085
Get out
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Aaand as soon as the discussion dies down we go back to ded. This is all your fault, reportfags.
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Well, /aceg/'s shit now. This was basically the only reason to come to /vg/ or 4chan in general. See ya later buddies. Also fuck that one autist that destroyed a perfectly good ecosystem a few months away from a new game after surviving without new releases for years
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>>175043763
not/10
>encyclopedia of stalinium plens
do want
>>175062478
Don't be like that, i'm sure we can still <<survive for a bit>>.
is it a permaban ?
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>>175060547
>as the discussion dies down we go back to ded
This certainly had nothing to do with the fact that it was 1 in the morning.

Is there anything I need to know before playing Air Combat / Ace Combat 2 after having played 4/5/0/6? Other than that 6 probably spoiled me for how well I can turn.
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>>175062804
PS1 graphics are always worse than you think they're going to be.

also get used to that d-pad movement, because those games were made and released before the PS1's first analog-stick controllers
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Reportfag, why don't you try and visit /@/ as well? That general is usually littered with stuffs violating 4chan rules worth reporting. If you can do it on /aceg/, then you can do it on /@/ as well.
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>>175062731
I think it only lasts a week or so.
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>>175062478
That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think? We've had some bad times before, but we always pulled through because we've stuck together as true buddies.
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>>175065275
^This. Hang in there. AC7 is soon upon us.
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>>175065474
Oh, boy. I'd surely hope the development of AC7 is going smoothly that they don't have to delay the release.
Bamco, we're waiting for the good news from you.
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Yellow Squadron is so ass to fight at the end of the Siege of Farbanti.
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>>175062978
AC2 and 3 both support analog. They even have calibration options so you can adjust the deadzones and such.
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>>175067824
What release date is there to delay?
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>>175068610
AC2 supports it, but it's rough.
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>>175068847
At the moment it's not release date, but release year, which hopefully won't be pushed back all the way to 2018.
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>tfw finally finished AC04 in expert, all rank S.
>All planes and paintjobs finally unlocked.
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>>175069352
Well why don't we all just take a seat and wait quietly and calmly for news
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>>175069619
No offense, but you sound like a certain user from Acepedia who keeps telling people to shut the fuck up and wait for the news to come instead of making speculations.
>>
Do different planes have different AIs or behavior/flight patterns?
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>>175070803
Out of curiosity, who?
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>>175070803
Except anon here isn't condesending and stroking his ego.
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any guide on how to raise the kill bar quickly in AC5? it's driving me nuts
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>>175073060
Honestly? Play Sea of Chaos. That's how I did it.
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>>175071150
http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Mobius_1?comments_page=1

Look for this question
>A trivial question (could possible be added to trivia section as well): is Mobius 1 the first player character in the series to be a military corps member instead of a mercenary, unless we count the protagonists from the arcade version of Air Combat and Air Combat 22 ?

See the first user who replied and read his following comments
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>>175073308
>Acepedia

they are the same people that likes Ass Horizon, what did you expect
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<<Yo, buddies>>
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Hey, reportfag. Why haven't you reported this off-topic image >>174858407 ?

Oh, I get it. you're actually the autistic puchiposter who loves to spam puchis and wants revenge for getting his degenerated pictures of puchis deleted
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>>175073258
Sea of Chaos is fine for strong planes but what about the weaker planes?
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>>175068963
Not really. It's definitely better than using the d-pad, and it feels better than 3 because of 3's dumb problem with diagonals.
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God save The Erusean Queen
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What's the optimal way to unlock everything in AC0 and do every subpart of every mission, and do every mission as knight/soldier/merc in as little playthroughs as possible?
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>>175074843
It's a direct response to someone discussing puchiposting.

I mean, I can report all 20 or so posts in this thread that discuss puchiposting, if that will make you feel better.
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>>175077325
Minimum of three playthroughs. Some of the squadron fights change based on your style.
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got an itch for making another poster but don't know what to make
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>>175080037
AC3?
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>>175082960
yeah i could do that.
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Why does Omega 11 always get shot down?
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>>175086430
His smile shows up too easily on radar.
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>>175069368
F-5E -Wang- is the best desu.
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>>175094816
I'm not saying the default black Su-47 (/S-37A) does thing to my dick,
but, you know, there's a feeling.
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>>175094816
>F-5E is the best
FTFY
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Reminder that forward swept wing aircraft are in constant state of impending hug.
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>>175098737
Then why is it so shit, even that flying shithouse the F-4 is better
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>>175098845
Because if it flew as well as it looks, nobody would ever use anything else.
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>>175100297
They would use F-16s
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bump for e3
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It's time for V2
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/ffxiv/ here

did you guys get some sort of autist that reports stuff?
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>>175111661
If you mean the "no fun allowed" guy who kills comfy streams yeah
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>>175111949
yeah we got the same thing in our general, some anon mentioned that /aceg/ got attacked by the same bullshit so i came to check it.

anyways do what we do. ignore it or get someone with dynamic IP post your streams
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>>175112243
Wish you guys best of luck.
>>
Got into AC:Infinity today.
Managed to score an F-35 early on and just unlocked the Harrier which is all I wanted anyway.
Hopefully combining it with MGS Legacy will see me through until AC7 is out.

Still not entirely sure what everything is for or what it does but as long as I can keep getting my AC fix.
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>>175113935
As a rule of thumb, remember to only unlock the path you are interested in, when it comes to planes and parts.
Research is random among things you have unlocked, so opening up all the paths early means it will take ages to get anywhere.
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>>175043763
I used to have a few very broad encyclopedias on war planes but I've lost them over the years.
Been to a bunch of air shows but never really delved into planes until I came here and learnt about emulating to play AC 4, 5, and 0 some three months ago.
Now I don't know where to start since I've always loved WWII era planes thanks to making Airfix models as a child and I love loads of the modern era planes just as much. I don't have a particular planefu or even plane lineage that I'm so into I could study up on first.

>>175114308
Cheers. Luckily the Harrier only required two planes before it. As for tech I haven't looked into it cos I wanted to get straight to bombing Argies.
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I can't believe im going back to playing infinity

what has boredom done to me
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I'm at the 10th mission in AC6 and I really want to know

please tell me there isn't another mission like aigaion or any fucking tunnel flying after this
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>>175117419
>tunnel flying
I have bad news for you, anon.
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>>175117480
please no

I don't want anymore tunnels

not after AC5
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>>175117685
they're not bad in AC6

the AAA is more annoying
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>>175117419
>hating on the best superweapon boss aigaion
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>>175118009
I love trying to swat a bunch of flies that constantly dodge missiles with 30 of the same flies shoving missiles up your asshole at the same time

fucking F-14 couldn't do it so I had to cheese it with an A-10
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>>175118146
It's the best dogfight in the series, though.
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You're in the club and this guy is about to smack your planefus ass
what do you do
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>>175075095
Weak planes: Mission 3

Mid-tier planes: 11A
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>>175118394
deploy chaff
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>>175118636
>enemy can deploy flares and chaffs
>you can't
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>>175118394
Did he bring 99 of his friends?
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So what is the best AC game in the holy trinity?
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>>175119205
0
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>>175119205
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>>175118394
FOX THREE FOX THREE
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>>175043763
I've got a couple bookshelves of jets, planes, tanks, and boats around my house, plus a bunch of stacks of books about similar subjects
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>>175118636
does chaff even counteract radar guided missiles?
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>>175120850
That's exactly what their job is.
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>>175120941
must be getting mixed up with flares and heatseekers.
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So what makes these games good exactly?

Story? Gameplay? Atmosphere?
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>>175121465
Gameplay and atmosphere, the story is usually so-so.
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>>175121272
Chaff works against radar-guided missiles by forming a smoke screen, confusing the radar and allowing the targeted aircraft to evade the missile

Flares work against heat-seeking missiles by serving as decoys and tricking the heatseeker into locking onto them instead of the aircraft.
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>>175113935
>unlocked the Harrier which is all I wanted anyway

Make sure to grind for part slots. Also, try saving a few tickets and medals for skins or even an sp. plane. I mean, the Aquarius and Hibiki are the sowest planes in the game, but hell if it doesn't feel satisfying to LASM the shit out of everything on them.
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>>175121465
All of these, plus the music.
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536th for Slavshit best shit
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>just got AC6 and it doesn't work on my 360
>friend just got a used 360 and I wanted to take it over try on that one
>they got sent the wrong power cable with theirs
Bugger.


>>175121737
Okay, cool. Like I said before I've no idea what I'm doing with the tech tree. I thought it'd be more like War Thunder and each plane would have it's own tech to unlock. So for now I'm just not spending anything else besides research reports on the Harrier.
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>>175123385
Don't forget you can switch report types for any other type if you're short on a certain kind.
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>>175071150
So, you've found out about the user, then?
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How do I get rid of these black fucking lines when emulating AC4 at anything higher than native resolution?
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>>175126731
wild arms offset in gsdx hacks
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>>175127501
Already had that turned on
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>>175127729
align sprite maybe?
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>>175127847
Also had that turned on
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>>175127895
don't know then. can you screenshot your gsdx settings window?
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When will we see the artwork of the Erusean princess in her bra and panties?
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>>175128812
When will you knock this shitty waifu fagging off
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Streaming Peace Walker at beam/supergauntlet
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>>175128812
fuck that, I want to see more planes

Like, what kind of airliner do the Erusians use? Would it be Boeing or Airbus, or possibly one of the minor, non-US/EU manufacturers? This is important information.
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>>175128812
>>175130165
>Erusean princess
>Erusean airliner
Imagine that Trigger is actually reduced from being part of an elite OADF squadron to leading the "bad company" consisting of convicts because of his failure in protecting an Erusean airliner carrying the princess.
So, the princess has been dead in the entire storyline every scene depicting her is a flashback.
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>>175128812
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>>175131808
Top blowout
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>>174907774
Sky Eye, obviously.
>Today's my birthday. A victory sure would be nice.
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>all this Mirage fandon and no lewds
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>>175136702
???
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>>175043763

http://www.simhq.com/_air/PDF/NGNG.pdf
http://www.jg-51.com/topsecret/Fighter_Combat-Tactics_and_Maneuvering.pdf

I guess not very
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<<adios, you damn fool>>
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bump for soon
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*penetrates your airspace*
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>>175139964
THAT'S A LOTTA MISSILES
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>>175139964
>>175140121
I'd like to see a real plane with a typical AC loadout.
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>>175141723
wouldn't it just be a ball made up of hundreds of missiles?
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>>175142075
Probably.
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Will /aceg/ ever play ACI again someday?
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>>175142865
I'll be glad the day the servers shut down.
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>>175142993
And when AC7 rules the unknown skies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6V9_pOxR2U
Didn't realize the F-14 can be so cute
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>>175142993
>>175144039
Will we sortie for the last few days before the server shut down? >>175144039
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Does /aceg/ wear aviator glasses while playing any ace combat game?
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>>175145020
It'd be better if PA patches ACI with one special mission weeks before shutdown to conclude the storyline.

>>175145253
No, but I wear pinhole glasses while playing an Ace Combat game.
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>>175145253
I have a nice pair of raybans that I wear when I break out the full flight sim battle station.
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>>175142075
I did a quick google and got "news" posts about an "Arsenal Plane" plan, but those posts are a year old.
I could see a B-1, which can drop 84 Mk-82 500lb bombs or 24 Mk-84 2000lb bounds, being modified to drop semi-active, delay-firing missiles from it's internal bomb bay.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y61Y1YH_n0M
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somewhere over the rainbow
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>>175152939
I don't know the rest of the song.
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>>175156415
Here, i'll complete it
CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAAAAAAAAAYYY. CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAAAAAAAAAYYY
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>>175123360
Welcome back Brady
>>175136591
You delet that right now
Mirage not for lewds
Mirage a cute interceptor with morals
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>>175159531
>mfw seeing an AC5 commercial on TV for the first time
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>tfw abandoning ACI in favour of AC7
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>>175160713
I recently found some performance data for the Mirage III.

Interceptors are what they call planes that can't dogfight, right?
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>>175163512
That means the F-14 can't handle dogfights
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>>175163512
Tell me stories about the Mirage~.
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>>175129528
>He doesn't like the idea of having female characters in an Ace Combat game
Go back to playing ACAH, gayfag
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>>175163958
>Gayfag
Ooh, repressing something are we?
It's alright, we won't judge
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>>175163958
My issue isn't with female characters

My issue is with the autists who obsess over them and post that retarded 'I WONDER WHAT HER FARTS SMELL LIKE' shit
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I wonder what her exhaust smells like.
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>>175165391
It smells like misery and being obsolete
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>>175165532
Uh, the word you're looking for it 'obsolescence'
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>>175166048
thank you
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>>175163763
It depends where the dogfight takes place.

Below ~Mach 0.65 the F-14A (With the janky underpowered engines) can out turn F-16s and F-15s.
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Anyone else know any other planes to draw with plain text?

Here's an F-22:

\ /
______\_(0)_/_____
\_||||||_/

And a Flanker:

| |
_____|_(0)_|_____
U U
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>>175169850
Fuck my life.
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>>175169850
>>175169952
you tried anon, and that's what counts.

I think you can enter code sections on 4chan where it doesn't strip the spacing, not sure how.
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>>175169850
I guess this is why the Thundersignal doesn't have a tail.
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Alright, post pics of your favourite plehn.
>>175169850
It's like the triforce.
â–²
▲▲
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>>175170870
Fuck, alt+255 won't work anymore.
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>>175170870
F-14 Tomcat

and it'd better be playable in AC7.
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>>175171173
The Tomcat is one of the most iconic plane ever, they'd be dumb not include it in AC7.
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Can you restart a campaign any time in AC0 and keep your old stuff?
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>>175170870
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>>175171284
only through new game plus afaik, and i don't know if it works mid campaign
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>>175171427
Apparently it does, I have both SP new game and Continue available.
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>>175171284
I believe at anytime you can do SP New Game, and carry over all your progress.
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>>175145253
>ywn play AC like this
Imagine having this whole setup though?
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>>175171648
Continue is for continuing current campaign though. As in the mission you left off, isn't it ?
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>>175171849
Yes. At anytime, you can either resume your current campaign or start an new one with SP New Game.
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>>175171946
Oh, yes. But you need to have it finished at least once. I misunderstood
CAPTCHA : handicapped child area. Is 4chan telling me something ?
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>>175171173
>>175171257
>Continue the playable jets roster from previous installments, including the F-14, F-20, Typhoon, and Su-37 in it
>Engaging, emotional, and memorable storyline
>Meaningful and memorable characters
>Epic BGMs
>Exciting and immersive gameplay
>Great replay value
>No missions that force you to only use specific aircraft

If AC7 delivers all of above upon release, then I will personally rate it 10/10
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>>175172538
>tunnel flying
>one of the final missions involve going through a dangerous tunnel with 30 jets on your tail and closing doors ahead of you and the thing you have to shoot has no lock on
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>>175173110
You can consider those as
>Exciting and immersive gameplay
But that's OK.
Those two are among the important elements that define a true Ace Combat game.
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>Somebody in the Strangereal designs a superweapon that doesn't fly and has tunnels too small for a plane.
What would happen?
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>>175173831
Belka in the back
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>>175173831
Immediately fired from their job at Grunder
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Can you just hunt aces in AC0 in free mission mode?
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>>175173831
>doesn't fly and doesn't have plane-ready tunnels
why even call it a superweapon then
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>>175174818
Pretty much, yeah
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>>175175646
Don't some of them only spawn if you're mercenary/soldier/knight though? How does that work with free mission?
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>>175175832
You get to choose the ace style variant of the mission.
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>>175176009
Oh shit that's great.
I don't have to do it first in a campaign though, right?
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>>175176009
Don't you have to clear it in that style first though?
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>>175176214
>>175176226
Can't say for sure but I think you do need to clear the mission in that style in the campaign to unlock it in free mission mode.
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god, just imagine the hell that working in the spare parts/logistics acquisition's side of any strangereal nation's air force

It'd be enough to change a man.
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I have a question about real world fighter jets that are in ace combat. Can I ask it here (are there experts here?) Or should I go to /k/?
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>>175177273
We know enough to answer some of it, and if you still need help afterward, /k/ isn't going anywhere soon
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>>175176895
I think pops mentioned something about that during one of 5's cutscenes, something about simplification of designs to cut down on costs and parts
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>>175177935
Yeah, the manufacturers used composite parts instead of quality materials.
S'why certain ejector handles on certain planes didn't work at certain moments.
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>>175177637
I've noticed most planes have two sets of wings. The big wings in the middle, and then a smaller set in the front or the back. Can someone explain to me why they do this and what difference it makes?

Some planes only have 1 set of wings and others have 3, so it almost seems random.
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>>175184331
The biggest set of wings is always the primary lift surface, and is responsible for keeping the plane aloft. Smaller sets are used to enhance aircraft stability maneuverability. You've probably noticed that the big wings usually have a moving bit in the back. These are control flaps that let the plane maneuver. The smaller wings to the rear usually have another set of control flaps if they don't just tilt the whole thing. Smaller wings to the front of the big one are canards. They don't have as much of a stability aspect but can greatly increase mobility by offering yet another set of control flaps to help maneuver the plane
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>>175171771
I like to think he's scratched the writing off his helmet to remove the MAVE cos his name's Rick.
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>>175182201
too soon

>>175184331
rear wings control maneuver

for instance, both rear wings turn upwards, then craft turns upwards, they turn down and you turn down, turn one down and one up and your plane rolls
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>>175184331
Basically what >>175185485 said.
The big ones are for lift. There are lots of ways of explaining why lift exists (Newton's third law, differences in pressure, etc.), and different shapes are used depending on role and amount of force they must tolerate.
The small ones are control surfaces. The pilot's movement on the control stick results in movement of these pieces, which move to redirect air flow. This change in air flow is used to change direction/rotate the aeroplane.
The ones on the tail are always there, in a form or the other. If they are clearly visible, they are called "stabilisers". The part that actually moves is called "elevator" and can be found either on the wings or the stabilisers. In some planes, the entire stabiliser moves to achieve the same effect. The plane on the left has a clearly visible tailplane (and thus stabilisers), while the one on the right has the elevators integrated in the wings and no tailplane.
The ones on the front are called "canards" and are used when the designer wants to reduce stress on the rest of the airframe/increase manoeuvrability. Combinations of canards, control surfaces and wing shapes are used depending on aircraft type, role and other variables ( e.g. a stealth plane would benefit from the absence of canards, since they increase the aircraft's radar "signature").
Sori for eventuol badh inglisc am not neitive spiker.
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>>175189013
Holy shit buddy you ok there? Looks like you typed out a stroke
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>>175184331
I am eagerly awaiting you-know-who's multi post epic explaining all this in the most minute detail about every possible planform variation. Complete with charts and graphs.
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>>175185485
>>175188601
>>175189013

Thanks. I don't fully understand, but I get the small set of wings basically works like a lever to change the updown tilt.

>>175190583
?
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>tfw dad is an avid Puddle of Mudd fan because of AC5
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>>175191632
He's waiting on Professor Phantom to explain everything in nearly too much detail
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>>175193301
>/aceg/ reads a post by Thunder
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>>175194154
kys
t. Belka
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>>175194645
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>>175194713
>>175194154
OC, r8
Is the guy that did the belkan version here ? I have some question about how he did his
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>10
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>>175197006
Looks good man

I would change 'fictional' to 'non-existent', ditch 'foreigners', and change 'taking you through only victories' to 'do nothing but win'
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>>175203765
i think it still need something to put more emphasis on the fact they are not rebels from the inside
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>>175204182
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>>175205254
The alternative version looks cool
I need to do more of those. My skills with editing software is shit tho
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>>175205620
i'd make some but im busy making an AC3 Poster
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>>175205905
Teach me. Later, but teach me the ways of the artfag
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Stream where?

Stream when?
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>>175206187
i don't even draw. graphic designing is mostly manipulating images, changing shade, adding texture etc. not a single stroke of pencil involved unless you're into professional jobs of designing

just open photoshop, fuck around with the tools and you will get the hang of it, worked for me
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>>175206771
This, the more you mess with shit the better you'll get at it
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SOOOOOON
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>>175210019
Not soon enough desu.
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>>175207119
Shame that ACI had some of the most fun gameplay.

If AC7 is nothing more than AC6 or better visuals with ACI mechanics I'd count it an excellent game.
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>>175214363
I agree. AC:I's gameplay being sped up as much as it was could make for some pretty crazy shit when playing with other people.
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>>175214363
>MOST FUN GAMEPLAY

oh I sure do enjoy sub 30 fps dogfights.
yup
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>>175214564
*some

learn to read, anon
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I Fucked up the AC3 Poster and wasted too much time to start over

sorry buddies, gotta cancel it
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>>175215171
Post it and let someone else finish it

Can't let OC go to waste
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>>175215248
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>>175215982
Aside from the coloring on the left wing looking a little jank this looks fucking fantastic

What's so bad about it that it's worth canceling?
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>>175216164
was trying to add the sepia plane being launched in the distance along with the AC3 logo. couldn't do it because there's fuck all good images of it
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>>175216402
try drawing it
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>>175216496
>drawing

man of African origins, please. i ain't got that talent
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>>175216402
It's already good wallpaper material as it is

Finish the shading on the left wing and I'd consider it a success
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>>175216620
better?
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>>175219368
shit wrong one
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>>175219794
Tad darker?
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>>175220491
this is the best i can do.

any darker and it starts to discolor
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>>175221005
I see your point, that looks a little weird, being THAT dark. Still, quality material.

Hail?
When dafuk are you going to show me some of your other work
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>>175221113
sorry man, im way too lazy and most off them are either shit or just gone from my laptop.
only a few are good
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>>175221606
>shit
I'll be the judge of that
can't you just put 'em in a mega or something?

Also, not trying to bum you out or anything, just that what I've seen of yours is good, and the fact that a lot of the time people think shit they do is bad, when in reality it's good.
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>>175222252
why are you spoilering everything you say?
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>>175222252
too lazy and too much workand don't want people to know where i came from. and no it's not reddit or neogaf
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>>175222634
Actually I'm not sure.
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>>175222734
>don't want people to know where i came from

We already know you're middle eastern

What else is there to know?
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>>175222904
a very, very cancerous site that i regret spending my time on
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>>175222962
What could it possibly be?
9gag or something?
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>>175223026
not mentioning it. end of story
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>>175223101
>attentionwhoring this hard

You started this

Might as well tell us
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>>175223175
>anon gets curious
>tell them no
>HURR YOU'RE ATTENTION WHORING

my last reply, im going back to playing DMC4:SE
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>>175223308
>got curious

You're the one who mentioned browsing a shitty site after Brady asked you for a mega

You started all this

Besides, it's not like we're at the UN, we're on fucking 4chan, how bad can it be?
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>>175223308
>mentioning what game you're playing when no one asked

That's literally attentionwhoring
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>>175223409
>4chan
>how bad can it be
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>>175223568
>evading the question

Seriously though, how bad can it be?

It isn't reddit, it isn't 9gag

Tumblr? Deviantart? Wattpad?
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>fighting over something this trivial
pls stop
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It's always DA or livejournal.

or like some weird furry website maybe.
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>it was at this point anon realized he fucked up
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Post alternate squadron themes!

I'll start

Gault:

https://youtu.be/XUhVCoTsBaM
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>>175225087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAzR2QyPCI
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>>175225507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
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>>175225791
https://youtu.be/OwSpn4pmv9Q
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>>175225961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af59U2BRRAU
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>>175225791
>not Schwarze
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>>175226105
Schwarze don't seem particularly edgy, despite spending most of their time shooting belkan deserters.
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>>175227064
P.J. these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of
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>>175227363
>>
I have a question

Why exactly do the planes that only serve in the Navy only serve in the Navy, and vice versa with the Air Force? Is that just how things fell into place, or are there legitimate things keeping, say, an F-15 for example, (properly equipped) from serving on a carrier?
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>>175227935
Sometimes this trend is broken. The Phantom was in the Air Force, Marines, and Navy, but only because the airframe was so damn versatile.
Simply put, the demands for an Air Force plane are usually different from those of a Navy plane.
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>>175227935
Interservice rivalries. And the fact that planes need design compromises to launch off of a carrier. And the big aerospace companies wanting more contracts
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>>175227935
This is actually a question that Val's charts and graphs would answer

__{](8)[}__
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Phantom a shit
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>>175228680
DELET THIS
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>>175229482
*gets converted into QF-4 target drone*
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>>175229938
:'(
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Su-47>F/22
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>>175230256
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>10
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>>175233749
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>>175240824
Quality post. Quality posts are important.
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>>175240982
Hey, reportfag. You know what to do with this off-topic image.
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Reportfag, deal with this >>175240982
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>>175227935
Generally speaking, one of the simplest reasons is that to be usable on a carrier a plane needs to be different from land ones.
Which means that a plane unable to land/take off from a carrier is useless to the navy and a plane modified to do so would perform less than an unmodified one, making it less desiderable to the and bases.
Also as an anon said internal rivalries I guess, but by not being American I really don't know much about them.
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Is the dev anon still working or he stopped due to ac7 being announced?
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wow
e3 when
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I POSTED THIS IMAGE AND IT GOT DELETED.
YET THIS OFF-TOPIC GARBAGE >>175240982 I WAS REPLYING TO WITH THE IMAGE IS STILL HERE.

IT'S NOT FAIR!!!
FUCK!
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Hey, reportfag. I bet you're the one who posted this >>175240982.

You're a fucking hypocrite. You know that?

Post Ace Combat and jets only, please
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>>175252407
>>175252636
Fuck's sake, people, he posted it at 3 in the morning. Do you think I'm here every second of the day?
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How about everyone takes a chill pill and posts their favorite bomber

Fair enough?
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>>175252987
Then how come the image posted here >>175252407 got deleted while this >>175240982 got away with it?
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>>175250702
<< All anons, cut the chatter and listen up! Got an Allied sitrep for you! >>

>[[ 46 days until E3! ]]

<< You got that? Continue thread support! >>
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>>175253043
Someone else already posted the exact picture I pulled off Google.

>>174930531
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>>175253163
Hell if I know. I woke up 20 minutes ago.
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>>175253314
Is this drawing of Cipher and Pixy considered off-topic?
>>174788751
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>>175253205
>46 days
That's too damn long.
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>>175253619
I've never personally liked it, because it's just pissing into the sea of piss that is the puchi argument, but no.
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>>175253751
What about this? It depicts the glory of A-10 and its BRRRRRRRT
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>>175253619
It's shitflinging bait is what it is
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>>175255065
A-10 lovers will love it
Puchi lovers will hate it
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>>175255065
What about this?
We need heroes after the war and Mobius One is one of them.
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>>175227935
This is somewhat long and rambling and may require additional clarification.

The USN and USAF have different operating environments that require different designs. Simply put, a carrier environment is much harsher on an airframe, requiring additional reinforcement of the frame, landing gear, and tailhook to deal with the rigors of catapult launch and arrestor recovery. All this reinforcement leads to a heavier takeoff weight, which degrades aircraft performance unless thrust is increased to compensate. So an F-15C modified to withstand carrier landings would not be able to perform as well as a normal, land based F-15C. Another thing that's often overlooked is saltwater corrosion, which is most effectively resisted when the plane is designed to be maintained in a salt water environment.

For a good example, look at how wildly the F-35A and F-35C variants diverged to better suit their respective operators. The USN version has a larger wing to generate more lift at lower speeds which translates to a slower approach speed on landing. This is necessary because a lot of navy planes are unable to land if they are above a certain weight, so unexpended ordnance must sometimes be jettisoned to meet that weight. The more lift a plane has, the heavier the landing weight can be. Navy planes also use probe and drogue mid air refueling system because they rely more on smaller carrier borne tankers and buddy tanking than the USAF.

It is telling that despite the F-35A and F-35C having the same engine, the F-35A is rated for 9Gs and the F-35C rated for 7.5Gs. I personally don't know if those are lift, structural, or doctrinal limits, but in peacetime operations the same aircraft operating on a carrier as it does from an airstrip will have a reduced lifespan of carrier operations.

So while it is rare for land based aircraft to make the jump to the navy, the reverse is less true. The F-4, F-14, and F-18 all originated from carriers and went on to be used as land based.
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>>175255368
That makes sense, thanks Thunder.

So what you're saying is that something like an F-18 will always be superior on a carrier compared to a land-based plane, because it was designed with the specific purpose of serving on a carrier, whereas a land-based plane isn't?
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>Bamco has been tweeting a lot about Tekken 7 recently
>Yet they rarely tweet about Ace Combat 7
As if Ace Combat 7 is Bamco's top secret project waiting to be unleashed in a grand moment
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Nu thred under construction
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>>175256442
Make sure to include
>Puchiposting will result in a ban
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>>175255867
Superior in conducting carrier operations, not necessarily performance.
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>>175256693
Oh shut up you. Shitting in a sea of piss isn't going to magically clean it up
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>>175256693
Just let him do his thing, anon
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All set
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>>175253043
Can never go wrong with the beautiful white swan
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>>175256939
Oh, are you one of those puchi sympathizers?
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>>175256939
You shut up, puchiposter
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>>175257274
>>175257275
You geniuses realize that constant reeeing about the puchis is just as corrosive to the thread as the actual puchis, right?

The proper procedure has and always will be just report and ignore.
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>>175257359
Then why >>175240982 stay intact while >>175252407 got wiped out even when the former actually got reported by buddies here?

Biasment pretty much?
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>>175257275
>>175257274
Tell me, what is it like trying to chase ghosts?
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s-stop fighting guys
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<<Let us be blessed with glory as we pass through the gates of hell!>>
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We're about to have a new thread, let's start fresh and leave the shitposting here, hmm?

It's time everyone returned to buddy status
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>>175257483
First, improve your English. Second, re-read the site rules about gore and shitposting. Granted, that second rule is very loosely constructed, but what does the second image contribute?
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>>175257695
This is not scientific forum so need to improve my English, fucktard.

As if people with perfect English are the only superior creatures in this crapsack world
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>>175257791
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>>175257775
See, you just said yourself you "need to improve my English"(sic)
And you still need to re-read those rules
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>>175257695
Gore images of puchis aren't against the rule.
Puchis are not humans.
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>175257904
Fuck off, cunt. I bet you are the reportfag who loves to look into people's mistakes and result in named anons getting banned just because of streams
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>>175257926
Where does it say that gore has to be human?
No, really, please show me

>>175258003
>Abloo abloo muh Boogeyman
I can feel the deflector shields from here
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>>175258146
A present for you, keyboard-warrior
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>>175257695
What about the rule regarding avatarfagging, anon?
While the second picture violates the rule about gore, the first one breaks the one about the use of avatar in comments.
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Fucking Glatisant. Reeeeeee.
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>>175259306
We moved onto a new thread buddy
I share your hate of Glatisant. I almost dropped zero when i was younger because i kept crashing into the ground when attacking the first part
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>>175257159
Ugh, fuck these things in Emancipation. White Swan 2fast
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