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>Obeyed national park regulations regarding campfires
>>174557819

>Patch 1.13
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75840229415620604

>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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1st for healing during a duel is an instant loss and marks you as a bad
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>>174576403
Holy cow, thanks for the help moving items and for all the additional stuff, super kind of you. Did you want me to summon your Ultrasword character then? Or did you want to summon me?
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Few things annoy me more than the ultra-passive "one hit than run away" playstyle.
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>>174577115
Need you to swap some items over to my ugs user
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Is it even worth going into ng+2?
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FC AT MOTHERFUCKING CHURCH OF FILIANORE

GET YOUR ASSES DOWN HERE
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>>174577201
For sure, want me to put a red sign down then?
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>>174577231
if you want sage ring or life ring, yes

I think that's about it though
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>>174577270
Mine is down
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>>174577245
sure, booting up my texas t80
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>>174577245
forgot to say pc
also pass is dsg because it always is
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>>174577245
is this a pc fc bf fc or what?
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>hornet ring caestus
Mark of a low skill shitter, flagged.
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nth for Zulie being in a state of superposition; both alive, and dead, simultaneously.

Pic obviously unrelated.
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>>174577379
Sure is. Assuming enough people are in the mood for pc fc bf fc of course
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Post and rate fashion.

I know it's edgy, but I like it.
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It's gotten to the point where I respect SS users and look down upon low effort low skill STR weapon poise abusers.
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>>174577492

To quote a fag:
"Bloodshade outta 10."
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>>174577432
>actually parry fishing with the Caestus after it was nerfed to be a small shield
It's literally there to be a 0.5 weight regen buff with the OPTION to parry now. If you're out to fish use a different shield.
Or do the Greatshield with weapon art + Farron Greatsword mainhand parry "surprise" meme.
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>>174577231
If you want the slabs (15), ring completion achieve and to see all 3 endings, then yes.
It's really no different than NG+ anyway
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>>174577492
Edgy = instant 0/10
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Is SL 65 +6/+3 a good spot for Aldrich Silver Knight cosplay greatbow shenanigans?
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>>174577568
No, it's there to fool people into thinking I'm a parry fisher, then dual wielding to persevere through an ultra weapon and tear off 70% of their health in one go.
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>>174576601 #
Maybe someday anon, I'm thinking of getting some recording gear and giving it a go. For now it's very simple. Have around 18+ poise and trade l2s with crucifix, the l2 without the follow-up has no fp cost and can combo, has huge hyper armor. Unfaltering prayer is obvious for trading lightning stake, and pointing lightning arrow makes people spam roll forever which you can punish by releasing at the right time or just drain their stamina. Fire projected heal at your feet. It's fast and obviously you can give it poise. I also pack SSS as a fast switch and with this build I almost never lose.

Sl75 50 fth 19 str
Chain/sage2/2rings +8 weapons. Enjoy, it's completely braindead once you get the knack for it but so much fun to play
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>>174577664
SL 40-55 is good for aldrich invasions
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Give me a build to try
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Is there a lower skill weapon than the DUGS? Anyone using them should be instantly permabanned.
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>>174577839
39 dex/60 faith Dark Blade, Sharp Murky Hand Scythe quickstepper. Low weight + Flynn's Ring.
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>>174577235
>Let's nerf Spears even more.
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>>174577948
Hello MooseTorrent
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>>174577895
I fucking love fighting DUGS. Every time I see them a huge smile cracks my face.

Both my main weapons have Perseverance. I just bait out their telegraphed-from-Alaska charges, tank through it, and ruin their day. It's so much fun.
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>>174577327
Want me to throw a red sign down for the character I'm moving this stuff to?
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>>174578029
Hyper Mode Dragon quickstepper.
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post dunks
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Nobody in the mood for a PC FC at Filianore's fuck dungeon?
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>>174577235
>quicksword
>attack on reddit name
>disconnects

poetic
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>>174577839
2h Havel's greatshield w/ Archdragon shield on back bomb knife and poop throwing regen-stacked invader.
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>>174577245

I can't find a single damn sign

Where is everyone puttin their signs?
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What are has the most female enemies?
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>>174577492
I don't think those legs go with that chest/10

Here's my trainwreck
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>shortsword has the phantom range of a fucking Gary Flame Spear
Reported for cheating
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>>174578086
Yes pls
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>>174578176
Put signs right in front of the doors, where I'm standing in that pic
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>>174578229
Sign is down
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>>174577245
>>174578129
There's gotta be more of you who wanna throw down in Ring town come on over
pass is dsg
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Why is it literally impossible for me to use anything other than a longsword
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How bad did they Nerf it?
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>>174578202

Which pants are those in the bottom right?
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>>174578543
Pale shade's
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>>174578454
>multiplayer on PC
KEK
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>>174578470
shit taste?
I'm using Lothric Knight Sword right now and i might not even bother with strength for this.
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I unironically think that the Fallen Knight set is the coolest looking armor in the game.

Fight me.
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Is there a good "Boss" build that would make you look intimidating for summons as a Spear? I don't really want to be a super PvP champ, I just want to make it a fucking boss fight.
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>>174576924

Are you trying to be clever and give me an aneurysm he
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You know, I really prefer DS3's T-Pose of you can't hit anyone or anything than this.
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>>174578628
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Imagine how fucking weird it must be to come into a thread and discover that some sicko is insisting you're dead and implying some personal relationship with you.
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>magically get hit with 2 black flames instantaneously
Nice script, reported
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>>174577492
Since basically forever
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>>174578630
Gundyr's set, except legs, use winged knight leggings
Male, as big as possible
Any large weapon
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>>174578714
To be honest, one of the best things about DaS3's system is the fact that you cannot trigger backstabs on players that are teleporting around or frozen. That was a big step forward
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Too soon, dude.
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>>174578707
no

think of it like this

in another dimension tsorig is the main character like your character is, so he doesn't die. this is the tsorig you invades you and puts down the summon sign.

the tsorig you find is just the non main-character version of tsorig in your dimension, since you end his story by killing him
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>>174578729
Yeah it's edgy but the whole franchise is edgy.

Calling someone edgy in dark souls is like calling someone a weeb at an anime convention.
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So I just got scholar for 10 bucks, havent played 2 since after the final dlc dropped way back when so its kinda fresh. But how the FUCK do I pull out my torch? I have to light it at a bonfire first every time?
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>>174578729
Not him but there's literally nothing edgy about Fallen Knight set whatsoever
>black is instantly edgy
>tattered clothes are now edgy
The word has lost all meaning
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>>174578859

Wat
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>>174578882
Nigga I know you didn't get it for that cheap on Steam...
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>>174578758
my nigga

i love how tight fitting and lanky it looks, the booty is just a bonus.
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>>174578758

t h i g h s
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>>174578882
Yes. Though if you'll continue along the game you'll find a consumable item that can be used to light the torch anytime. Just read item descriptions and you'll know it.
Flame Butterfly

Also oyu playing on PC or PS4?
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Playing through dark souls 2 for the first time. Am I wrong or does this game feel like total garbage compared to every other member of the series.
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>>174578928
fuck it just go with time is convoluted man

i can't explain this to you
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>>174578862
>>174578927
don't get me wrong, I like it
but the hood is goofy af
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>>174578454

I'd join if I didn't have shit to do.
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>>174578202
The second and last ones on the top are probably my favorites of those.
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>>174578229
Cool stuff, anything else you need help with?
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>>174578714
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>>174578862
>>174578927

Honestly, to me, it has less to do with the actual look of the armor and more so the type of players that flock to it.

It's always some jackass with a washing pole and caestus, or Yhorm Machete and dark sword, or any other cookie cutter "build" that gets circulated on YouTube.
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>>174578882

>ifunny

Get the fuck out
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>>174579101
I can agree with that. It's always some weeb fag with a katana using Fallen Knight.
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>>174578281
You need any lf these rings? I backed up my save so basically just cloned a bunch of them.
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>>174579101
That's probably confirmation bias anon.

I wear the chestpiece all the time and I've never used those weapons ('cept the caestus of course).
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is the Estus ring a crutch?
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>>174578714
you need to play better is all
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>>174579095
I expected you to get lag fucked.
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How do I build and use the sellsword twinblades
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>>174579304
No. Surprise those fuckers with 1500 chugs, they will have no idea what the fuck to do
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>>174579059
Thanks. Thats all. Did you still want to co-op?
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>>174578968
I tend to rock the Outrider Knight Leggings instead though because I feel the dance leggings make your legs look too spindly.
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>>174579279
>'cept the caestus
>of course

Not surprising you enjoy wearing the chest piece.
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>>174579410
>the metals don't match
Holy shit my autism, delete this right now
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>>174579374
Easily.
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>>174579324
Does this counts tanku senpai?
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>>174578945
>>174578987
ps4
>>174579128
I just picked one of the few ds2 pics to go with my post and it was kinda relevant. Im 99% sure I got it from a souls thread back in the day like all my pics.
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tell me how to beat gank squads you fucks
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>>174579586
Big dick hyper armor one shot weapons like Gael's Sword of PUGS.
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>>174579394
I'm down if you are, but I have to be honest, I did use those souls to blast up to 60. I'm now a 40 faith, 30 attunement, 13 vigor faith support character with zero miracles. Did you want me to summon you?
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>>174579586
Crystal soul spears while using obscuring ring while they are fighting mobs or other invaders.
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>>174578628
I just wish it looked more like the normal knight set and had plates on the legs
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>>174579481
NEVER
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>>174579341
Damn dude that's a really long sword.
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Epilogue > Nameless Song > Longing
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DaS2 is the best Souls game for the simple reason that you can do Climax one-shot troll invasions
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>>174579446
Yeah you're right dude. Fuck using effective parrying tools. What do you use sempai? The painting guardian curved sword? Or is that too "meta" for you?

>>174579745
I use the regular knight leggings and the undead legion gauntlets with it. Looks great IMO.
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>>174579906
you could one shot people with dark bead in DaS1 and you didn't have to pay attention to soul memory
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>>174579716
Its OK. I thought you might have needed help clearing. If you do you can sunmon me.
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that thrall in the undead settle me to by that door dropped its flamberge, and the sickle dude in the hallway by the sun Bros dropped his harpe.
looking good so far
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who here /censorknight/
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>>174579774
Best part about that WebM is that other guy still dies to some laggy backstab anyway. You can see it at end.

>>174579906
DaS2 is best because Poison fucks with almost everyone.
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>>174580027
Oh, I don't need any assistance or anything, I was just game if you were. Otherwise I'll just rush my butt to some miracles so I can be a credit to team. Thanks again for the help.
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>>174579446
I've got the caestus for that perseverence and heavy hits, but fuck parrying with that thing. Shit'll just kill me.
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Should I not trust onions anymore?
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>there are people who don't like the Midir fight
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>>174579991
>Fuck using effective parrying tools

you would never use offhand caestus if you didn't know it was effective for spamming parries

don't act like you aren't a tremendous faggot
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>>174580104
I made two Knight characters before seeing other K***hts out there.
Fucking From, why can't they just patch easy shit like this?
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>>174579827
I feel like Nameless Song is better, slightly.
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>>174579536
yes my son VERY GOOD!
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>>174579906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwjtaH0OTWk

I miss him ;_;
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>>174580026
You had to be point blank for a dark bead one shot. Climax could one shot from across the room.
>chameleon
>hide by the boss fog
>Climax instakill the host right before he touches the fog
SO much hatemail.
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>>174580139
You should consider rushing to friede then demon prince. Can pick up projected heal and lightning arrow.
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>>174579991
>fuck using effective parrying tools
Except the caestus has the same parry frames as a small shield after the nerf. Carrying a caestus just makes you look desperate and uninformed. I bet you wear hornet ring too.
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>>174580046
they can drop those?
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>>174580346
Spamming parries isn't effective. Your scrubbiness is showing.

The reason to use the caestus is that it has the least parry startup frames and the lightest weight.

It also looks good on builds where shields aren't appropriate.
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>>174580525
>>174580026
>>174579906
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>>174580637
It's lighter than any shield.

Nothing wrong with the hornet ring either. Since when is /dsg/ so full of scrubs and crybabies?
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>>174580346
I use it on my frail casters just for the simple enchantment. Lets me spam darts or lighting arrows a bit longer and even gives me an extra crystal soul spear after a few secs at 18 att
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Slave Knight Gael is probably the best Soundtrack of the Soulsborne series.

Neither Ludwig nor Maria have OST's this intense.
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>>174580627
I'm going to do that right after I get that sweet bleed miracle.
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>>174580735
Madman
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>>174580735
;(
this is why i hate red spirits
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Had to end up using fists only instead of the torch to beat Vordt. Damn, charged strong attack did way more damage than the torch. I'm gonna kill myself at this rate. thank god for the ice beam he does in phase 2, gives me enough time to hit a couple times.
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>wolnir spawns carthus curved greatsword skellies if you dont kill him fast enough
>and indestructible wheel skeletons

wow I didnt even know, he glitched out so his hand was in the fog for over 5 minutes
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>>174580773
Parrying with a small shield takes no skill and the hornet ring is free damage. It's literally the easymode noskill build, do you also use a Raw DSGA so your hornet ring riposte is a guaranteed one-shot? Incredible skill, teach me your ways.
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>>174580819
Ok if you need help let me know.
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>>174580735
>remove shields in Bloodborne to explore a different style of gameplay
>fundamentally make shields worthless in DaS3 anyway
Make shields great again. I don't really want Demon's Souls with a different name again though, so I hope they don't have the opportunity to do that.
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>the game from Irithyll Dungeons to Champ Gundy

So fucking bleak and depressing, jesus.

Oceiros' garden gives me conniptions, too.

>>174581000
>shields
>worthless

are you talking about PVP only? I'm using a shield for the first time in DS3 and it makes everything terribly fucking easy.
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>>174580665
You really sound like a generic shitter dude.

>fallen knight chest
>caestus
>hornet ring

How can you seriously have a character like this? What weapons do you use, I'm curious.
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>>174581000
yeah it's been hard training my muscle memory to not block at all times even with non shields like in DaS1

i get guardbroke a lot because of it
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>>174580980
I should be okay. I do have a question, however, and I guess this is a general question to the thread as well.

I can just buy one dark miracle off Irena (Gnaw), kill Eyegon, and then buy more miracles off of Irena, correct? I just don't want to wait until Karla to bleed people.
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Any decent low requirement magic I could squeeze into a pure strength build? I remember using carthus flame arc but is that even worth it over lightning paper?
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>>174581171
there's no reason to not kill eyegon as soon as you encounter him.
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>>174581171
You can pick up Dorhy's Gnawing in Irithyll if you can wait that long.
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>>174580951
You think you're silly casual cosplay build takes skill because you're voluntarily gimping yourself?

You're just a scrub who uses subpar gear and builds so that you can blame your losses on your build and protect your fragile ego.

Off yourself.
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>>174581268
t. caestus hornet ring shitter who probably exclusively uses meta weapons

What an embarrassment you are lol
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>>174581108
Tons of different weapons. I don't wear hornet ring all the time but I do when I'm invading since you need to be able to one-shot phantoms or you'll get gangbanged.

What do you use? A broken straightsword or an Eleonora?

Show us all your amazing skill intensive build and gear.
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>>174579991
I've been using the same plain, non-infused parrying dagger since I've started playing DS3. Never had any problems parrying people.

If you act like having the caestus is a huge advantage that you can't do without then I'm sorry you are just a shitter.
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>>174581082
>Oceiros' garden gives me conniptions

because it's a literal non-level?
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Damn, I could have sworn this made it impossible for Sully to hit you. Did they change his hitboxes or something?
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>>174581389
I mean I wreck shitters like you with hornet ripostes all day long. Stay salty.
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>>174581268
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>>174581405
>there are only tryhards and anti-tryhards
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>>174581479
this is funny
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>>174580816
I rarely ever notice boss music, I'm too busy focusing on the fight itself. It's a shame, because some of it is really good.
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Are any weapons better one handed than two? What is the best weapon to pair with a greatshield?
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>>174581459
Because it's just the shittiest parts of the game crammed in one area.

>Pus of Man
>also toxic swamp area near items
>also room with thralls that'll follow you down the elevator so waste your time killing them
>Oceiros either decides to have downs and never hits you or his sweeps make him skate across the entire level like he just watched that gay fujoshit anime about ice skating
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>>174581451
Where did I say it was a huge advantage?

It's not. It's quite good for many builds since it's light and has fast parry frames. For some reason people get triggered if you use anything remotely good.

There's nothing wrong with using the caestus.
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>>174581524
With a DUGS? A Follower Sabre? A SSS? Which FOTM crutch weapon do you use anon?
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>>174581581
Phase 2 Dragonslayer Armour is one of my favorites from 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNsnqNOTg0
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>>174581240
>>174581252
Thanks, now I know my options.
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>>174581479
try the other emote that has you on the ground
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Post stuff you use when invading if you just wanna be a dick and have fun.

>Friede's GS
>Pestilent
>Snap Freeze
>CSS
>Chameleon
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>>174581524
You and literally anyone with a functioning trigger finger.
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Whats the optimal level range and weapon upgrade for early Blue Sentinels and Watchdogs again? I'm currently sitting here at 25 +2 and I ain't getting shit.
I get it's a ded game but I expect one an hour...
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>>174581658
The only person triggered here is you senpai. No one said you're not allowed to use the caestus. It's just the calling card of a desperate shitter.
>wrecking some dude's shit
>caestus comes out
Every single time. It's a "oh shit I'm losing better hornet ring riposte haha look how good I am" weapon, considering small shield parrying takes 0 skill or timing in this game.
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>>174581564
Well yeah apparently anyone who uses the caestus is a tryhard now.

>>174581659
None of the above. I use LKGS, Ringed Knight SS, Chaos Blade, and a Rapier at the moment.

So basically I don't use any S-tier weapons at all. Try again faggot.
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>>174581825

I got pretty constant Watchdog invades at 25/+2. I don't think Blues are ever functional though.
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So are spears any good as a weapon class? There sure are a LOT of spears to choose from but I don't usually see people using them, save for NK's swordspear and maybe ringed knight spear.
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>>174581658
not that guy

the problem is actually that people usually don't use the caestus because they like or it looks cool or it fits with their character

they use it to get that literal 1% extra advantage that's the hallmark of a tryhard

it could even be a DISADVANTAGE in reality and tryhards would use if it was popular with the other meta faggots
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Shieeet greatswords are way shorter in ds2. Bastard sword looks like a straight sword. You also get assloads of souls, I cleared out the giant forest and got enough souls to level up 15-20 times.
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>>174581898
Not that anon but RKSS and CB are both high tier weapons
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>>174581820
If you can't play around someone fishing for parries with a hornet ring you're just bad. End of story.

If you got parried, you were outplayed. Suck it up.

>>174581846
Dude that makes no sense at all. You clearly have no idea about souls PvP.

Who the fuck is going to parry fish when they're low on HP?

Again, if you got parried, you were outplayed. What's stopping you from parrying them if it's so easy?

Oh right, you suck.
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Is a greatshield + enemy attracting spell/item/ring still a viable way of helping out a summoner or are shields that awful?

The Moaning Shield seems like it would be perfect for co-op.
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>>174581931

They are good but most are kinda hampered in the current meta by short range. Best spears are Ringed Knight, Flame Spear, Bident, Plow and Lothric Knight Spear.
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>>174582017
They're not in the same category as the weapons he mentioned, or GFS or pole, etc...

Yeah I don't use a broken straight sword so I guess I'm a tryhard.
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>>174581778
Caestus. I love getting any random buff on them, tanking a hit, and then punching shit to death. Especially if the host is crowding up with his phantoms and they get stuck on each other.
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>>174582049
>You clearly have no idea about souls PvP.
>Who the fuck is going to parry fish when they're low on HP?

how can you be so far from reality

i need a dose of what you have but for my tfw no gf
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>>174582049
>parrying = outplayed
Lmao last (You) from me, bait has become too obvious. Enjoy your shitposting, tryhard.
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Anybody here actually playing ds3 for the first time?
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>>174581778
poise casting force
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These fucking dirty townsfolk won't drop their damn plows or not-shotels. What the hell.
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>>174582068
No. No such thing as aggro items in ds3
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so why the damn dragon helps with this whole rc pro-gwyn fuckery
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The architect for Duke's Archives needs to be shot.
Who the hell puts a pillar in front of a central staircase?
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I think I'm gonna use a sword as an Iron sword in the meantime, I've been checking and I see it like this. The pickaxe would work as an iron pickaxe, Irithyll Straight Sword would work as a diamond sword, Brigand Axe as an iron axe and Crescent Axe as a gold axe, but what'd work as an iron sword, shortsword or longsword?
Btw I know I'm giving this too much thought, I just have no life.
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>>174582049
Being able to react to stimuli isn't really "outplaying". You're not some master strategist for pulling off a caestus reaction parry.
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>>174582245
Oh hush, I meant is a shield enough to tank boss hits reliably for a host. I have never bothered with greatshields but I notice medium shields are lacking in the ability to handle all the Bloodborne-esque sperg outs.
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>>174582218
>tfw Emit Force, Force, a Greatbow and a shield with Shield Slam on any bridge or ledge area
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>>174582179
You can't deal with the fact that you suck and got outplayed so you bitch about how parries are unfair. It's like I'm arguing with DSP.

I bet you can't even parry people consistently with a small shield. Scrub.

>>174582164
Well I mean, a baddie like you would probably resort to parry fishing if he's low on HP but good players don't do that.
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Is 30 poise enough to hyperarmor through a greatsword when using the greatlance?
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>>174582049
How are you still not getting it, idiot. No one is saying parrying is a "tryhard" thing. They're saying the caestus is a tryhard weapon because it functions exactly the same as a small shield since the nerf but people use it anyway because it's a little bit lighter. Using something that's ugly as shit and doesn't fit your build just because it gives you 1 less unit in weight is minimaxing, which is generally the calling card of a tryhard who does everything purely for getting an advantage and winning instead of having fun and using what makes you look cool.
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>>174582356

Only when they are one handing the greatsword with basic R1s and the R2s, Greatlance has Hammer-tier poise health on the basic 2H attacks. You could poise through with Charge I'm pretty sure.
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>>174582323
>don't respond to my statement about moaning shield being good for drawing aggro

hmm
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>>174582279
That's literally what outplaying is. You predicted what your opponent was going to do and have quicker reactions than him/her and boom! Parry.

What exactly do you consider skillful play then? Circle strafing around someone with a greatshield holding L1?

Give me an example of what you consider outplaying someone.
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>>174581778
>obscuring ring
>silver cat ring
>dragonslayer greatbow
shoot people off ledges all day
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Heavy greatsword or yhorms great machete for pvp?
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We are now at the turning point where fallen knight jacket wearing, caestus/honet ring shitters are not only accepted here, but encouraged...

How does it make you feel? Why didn't you stop it /dsg/?
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>>174582323
You literally said

>enemy attracting spell/item/ring still a viable way of helping out a summoner

None of those items work in ds3.

Are greatshields good? Yes.

But there isn't any real way to hold aggro besides hitting the boss again so that he maybe turns back around towards you.
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if you use offhand caestus you are the same kind of girl who drinks pumpkin spice lattes and just wears whatever they see on instagram

basically you are a tasteless, basic bitch
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What is the best talisman/chime for 30 faith ?
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Can you still use Tears by popping on the right rings temporarily? Is it worth doing when invading or is that too try-hard? Huge pain in the ass when it's a 1v3 ganksquad AND they all have tears.
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>>174582439
Ceastus can look good on some builds since shield don't fit the fashion.

If you don't like caestus then don't use it. Stop bitching about it. It's not OP at all.
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>>174582542
They aren't accepted here, we're just ignoring him like you should be. I don't speak to shitters or give them the time of day.
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>doing 2v2
>this guy gets hit with ringed spear weapon art every time since he's a retard
>get fan mail
feelsgoodman
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how le fug am i meant to get this?
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>>174582504
>predict
That's not what a reaction parry is.
A reaction parry is when you SEE the attack start and hit parry. No planning involved.

I'm neither one of the parties involved in this conversation, I just wanted to clarify this.
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>>174582618
guys ?
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>>174582589
What if it's secretly a Skilled +10 Caestus
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>>174582468
I thought you were just being sarcastic since moaning shield supposedly aggros enemies. So none of the aggro items do shit to bosses or enemies?
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>>174582515

Yhorm's.
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>>174582703
Walk forward?
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>>174576982
>dueling
Play in arena or get blown the fuck out when I sippy sippy again you honorfag
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>>174582703
same way you get this
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>>174582652
Literally no one said the caestus is OP. It's a fucking small shield, it's exactly the same as a small shield, no one is saying it's OP you triggered victim complex fag. They're saying it's the calling card of a shitter, because it is. Back before the caestus nerf every shitter would carry it around as a crutch to get easy reaction parries. Many still carry it around because they're not aware it was nerfed and they can't parry with anything else. The caestus has been branded a shitter item, just like the Dark Sword, the Estoc etc. and it always will be even if it's been nerfed.
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>>174582782
if you actually use it then more power to you

you beat the system (male)
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>>174577176
Few things annoy me more then the ultra retarded poise trade r1s until either one of us runs away to sip then we do it again play style.
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>>174582589
mine's sharp +10 and meant to punch k***hts in their ****ing faces
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>>174582726
Reaction parries are only viable against slow weapons and, to be honest, if your opponent is swinging an ultra with one hand while you have a parry tool equipped then he deserves the riposte.

Most parries against quick weapon are prediction parries or set up parries. I assume you know the difference.

Prediction/set up parries are the definition of outplaying and outsmarting your opponent.
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>>174582845
Jokes on you I jump off a ledge when my opponent drinks. I don't play shitters, enjoy your free win.
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Why's there no FC in ps4? Doesn't Bloodborne have FCs?
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I need a good alternate weapon to pair with my heavy broadsword for pvp. Any advice?
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>>174582920
It's a sleeper hit
2 L1's deal like five hundred damage, easy, and I usually catch them for one or two more for upwards of seven hundred. People drop their guard and think I'm meming them.

I'm not.
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>>174582956
I vote we have seperate groups for dexshitters and strengthshitters and never shall the twain meet

>>174582965
Like I said, no input on the debate, just wanted to clarify one point of definition.
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>>174583090
I don't speak to SS users please put a trip on so I can filter you
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>>174583007
>enjoy your free win
I'm sure he does, anon.
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>>174577948
Why do people keep saying to use flynns? Shit gives such a low ar bonus even at 30% weight that it's pointless to use.
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>>174583090
Why would you use the broadsword? It has the worst moveset of any SS.

>>174582894
Okay dude. Nobody gives a shit what you consider OP. You're just a scrub who's still triggered by dark swords and estocs lol
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>>174583223
It gives larger and larger returns the closer you get to zero.

The numbers aren't big enough to matter on large weapons, but on small, fast ones, like daggers or even some clubs it can be noticeable.
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I wear caestus on almost every build because its light and a good enchantment item.

I also wear fallen knight pieces to min max at times if my equipment is too heavy.
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>>174583283
I never said any of that shit is OP, I'm telling you what the community sees as shitter weapons. Don't quote me if you're just gonna strawman. Come back when you're ready to argue without fallacies.
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>>174583283
Im actually using the dark sword but didnt want anyone to make fun of me

>>174583175
Ultra weapons are far more cancerous right now
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>>174582965
Caestus parry comes out quick enough to react to all but the fastest weapons, really.
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>>174583348
This, I like having a Simple or Blessed Caestus on builds because its useful and light.
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Guys I'm over 1000 hours in. Where is the next souls game?
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>>174583389
You don't speak for the community, faggot.

I've never heard anyone bitch about the caestus outside of a few select autists on /dsg/.
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>>174583348
>>174583417
Didnt caestus get nerfed?
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>>174583075
Ps4 is for co-op only
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There are people in this thread, right now, shitposting about pvp "skill", viability of setups and min-maxing in a souls game.
A game where the pvp aspect is such an after-thought in design that you have phantom range on weapons, infinite i-frames, lightning infused SS has the same range and damage as a great hammer and 95% of combat is people rolling away from each other.

Give it up.
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>all these caestuscucks
So glad I'm not a metaslave shitter lmao holy bad
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>>174583413
Not anymore. It's the same speed as small shields now. 12 frame startup IIRC.
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>>174583523
t.shitter
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>>174583426
Releasing exclusively for PS4 next March, announced at E3

Demon's Souls Remaster alongside Kings Field V(R) this fall
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>>174583462
Then why did it get nerfed? Oh, right, because it was a broken shitter magnet. It's fine now but it didn't used to be, and everyone complained about it back then just like the DS and Estoc
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>>174582618
When in doubt, go canvas.
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Making a Faith character in DaS1 as my first caster. It's pretty fun and Sen's Fortress has been a great place to invade. I've also been trying out the Crystal Ring Shield. It actually does a good amount of damage for not scaling with anything, at least when fighting a typical person in Sen's.

Faith might not have raw damage, but it sure is a lot of fun.
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>>174583523
Translation:

>I'm a scrub
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>>174583462
It's hilarious watching you try to desperately defend your faggotry.

If you use a Caestus for passive buffs or as a parrying tool you are a corny min/maxing baby. Simple as that.
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>>174583607
>Kings Field V(R)

cuck
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>>174583576
Really? I thought it was only the recovery they nerfed. I must've not been paying attention.
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>>174583607
>Demon's Souls Remaster
Inb4 they remove soulsuck, scraping spear, etc etc
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>>174583557
What's your reaction when an opponent pulls out an offhand caestus, then two-hands it?
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For any of you fags that use bamco points, i aint gunna use this shit
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I have 300+ hours in each game in the series, with 650 in Bloodborne.

I have never bothered with the parry mechanic because I don't like it as much as dodging. I also have only used shields in a handful of runs.

Tell me how shit I am.
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>>174583747
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>>174583641
They didn't complain about it being OP, they complained that it made all other parrying tools redundant and it was basically a requirement to use it in PvP.

They were correct and FROM was right to nerf it.
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>>174583487
Yes and so? I can still parry with it and on my frail characters I almost never parry unless I'm certain it's coming
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>>174583341
It's 15% at 0 equip. Hand Scythe + Caestus + Chime = 3 lbs. Wearing super hobo/slut clothing is viable since you have 0 poise anyway so Flynn is a natural pick for about 10% AR.
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>>174583703
>waaaah stop using things that are actually good and effective you f-filthy m-m-minmaxer ;_;
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>R2 and abuse Pontiff's Eye, the fight

I'm surprised I was quick enough to figure that out.
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>>174583803
You should do a parry run on each of those games.

And while learning the time is fun, it tends to ruin most games on how broken it is, so no, playing parryless is far more fun in the long run.
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>>174583813
That's what they all think. They think I'm meming. They think it's a motherfucking joke.

It's NOT.
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>>174583932
for
>>174583223
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>>174583694

You'll be shitting damage once you get the two most viable spells.
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>>174583856
>they complained that it made all other parrying tools redundant and it was basically a requirement to use it in PvP
So, the definition of overpowered?

And I agree that it's fine now, as is the Dark Sword. I'm not saying they're OP. If you would look past your victim complex and read my post, I'm saying that once the community has branded something as a shitter item (Dark Sword, Estoc, Caestus, Carthus Curved Sword) it will always be seen as a shitter item even if said item was nerfed. It's just the stigma it's associated with for being OP at one point.
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>>174583953
>attack, the fight

wow
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>>174584087
Innit that what I said?
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>>174581778
>Lothric War Banner
>hosts and their babysitters
>outlast their seed
>go around and buff tough enemies
>pick them out from range
>toss talismans and grenades every now and then
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>>174584051
It isn't. Nobody thinks the estoc is a shitter item these days.

You must have so much left over salt from all those times you were parried with a caestus and hornet riposted with an estoc...

In fact, there's no such thing as a "shitter item" really. Only shit players.

Give a scrub a washing pole and he'll still suck. Give a good player a washing pole and he's unbeatable.
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>>174584051
Kinda sucks man.

I always loved the Estoc in all other Souls games, and I didnt get into DS3 pvp heavily until after a few patches and the Estoc was deemed shitter tier.

I still like to use it for it'a amazing moveset, but a lot of players get pretty upset over that weapon still.
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>>174584038
I know Wrath of Gods is one of them, but what's the other?

I'm currently about to get Gravelord Greatsword Dance and am going to try my hardest to get co-op in because I want Great Lightning Spear and Sunlight Spear. I'm also going to grab Emit Force and Karmic JUSTICE! when I get the chance.
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>>174584254
Holy shit man, last reply from me you're just not getting what I'm trying to say. You should work on that reading comprehension senpai.
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>>174581226

Maybe magic shield?

Any healing faith spell?
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>>174584254
>no such thing as a shitter item
t. uses overclocked weapons and thinks his wins were "skilled"

If a weapon is nerfed, it was broken beforehand and was a shitter weapon, there's no argument here. If you use OP weapons, you're a shitter. Case closed.
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>>174584357
Whatever dude. You're just being pedantic at this point.

Keep complaining about what gear other people use instead of enjoying the game and improving.
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>>174584483
>Case closed.

case re-opened!
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Am I the only one going to miss Zullie?
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>>174584521
>Keep complaining about what gear other people use instead of enjoying the game and improving.
>he says while adopting the most popular crutches
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>>174584521
Not him but he was the only one trying to have a conversation with you but you're so violently autistic you just attacked him with ad hominem while also killing the thread. Just stop posting, go jerk off with your caestus.
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>>174584483
>was

Key difference.

Also, everyone has a different definition of what a shitter weapon is. In your case it appears to be "anything that kills you".
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>>174583523
ignore those idiots

the pvp will never be serious since its p2p
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>enter arena for a little break from invading
>faggot with crown-toting waifu character tries repeatedly to trade her aquamarine dagger r1 spam against my lightning stake

Are duelfags just brain damaged?
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>>174581226
Blessed weapon gives flat 7.5% phys ar at any spellbuff. At same 15 fai you can get tod, but it takes 2 slots and countered with any kirk armour piece unless you have regen.
Not so sure about magics.
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>>174583932
Guess I was wrong then. I just recently hopped off the heavy builds and will tick that away since shitting on ultras with quickstep is the funniest thing to do in pvp right now.
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>>174584635
>you just need to get better haha why don't you just use this weapon if it's OP? Learn to counter it haha oops they nerfed it time for the next FOTM
I guarantee you use Gael's GS. You're cancer and you're not good at the game.
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>>174584626
What crutches? I already stated I don't use any s-tier weapons.

Show us how skilled you are then. Post a PvP video or a link to your stream. Until then you're just another anonymous faggot crying about the latest thing that killed him.
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Well, finally got the stupid sword.
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Could I feasibly beat Friede and Demon prince at SL40?

I really just want to run through the +3 Ringed City early to pick up all the relevant shit
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>>174584791
>I already stated I don't use any s-tier weapons.
>he says after listing off several s-tier weapons that he uses

sasuga anon-kun desu
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Is there anything more pathetic than a shitter who uses the most OP flavor of the month equipment and desperately tries to defend it as "skill"?
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>>174584780
Nope, never used it. Try again faggot. I already stated what weapons I use in this thread.

That said I have never lost to a GGS user so... Maybe you just suck? Ever considered that?
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>>174584852
I mean, yes, but it'll be a fucking shitshow.

Or maybe you're miles better than me and it won't?
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>>174584778
Another thing is that it's based upon weight, not percentage, so when others use it at like 20% it does something, but when you use it at 30% with Chain + Fap + Havels and on a Knight it does literally nothing.
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>>174584867
Which of those weapons is s-tier?
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>>174584916
>haha I never lose you're just bad
Lose weight.
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>>174584998
>Which of those weapons is s-tier?

not gonna take your bait any more retard

have one last (you), you deserve it for all your hard work
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>>174585006
I do lose. Just not to scrubs like you anon :^)
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>>174584793
The trick I learned with those fucking things is that they're a lot like Pontiff K***hts, they're super aggressive when you're in front of them but have trouble hitting you if you roll behind them.
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If I keep my weapons at +4 will i avoid getting destroyed by people using +6 and shit?
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>>174584916
Holy shit you're autistic hahahaha I can see why everyone hates PvPcucks. I'm so glad I just play Souls for the PvE. Imagine being like this hahaha holy fuck how obese are you
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why not corvian greatscythe or great corvian knife

my autism ;_;
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>>174585042
Seriously which tier list are you reading from?

I'm going by /dsg/'s own tier list updated for the most recent patch:

https://i.imgur.com/dskOpRP.jpg

So again, which of the weapons is s-tier in your opinion?
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>>174585129
Corvian Greatscythe is now great.
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>>174585170
Not him but that's not up to date that's the shitty one.
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Why doesn't anyone use Pontiff Knight Curved Sword?
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is dark blade murky scythe the best dagger build in the game?
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>>174585281
Okay where's the latest one then?

>>174585418
They do.
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>>174584254
>thinks the weapons and gameplay are balanced in souls pvp

Just stop, it's getting embarrassing. Not even the most rabid souls fanboy would try to make that assertion.
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>>174585548
Well yeah, it's a videogame. Of course it isn't balanced.

You want perfect balance? Go play chess.
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>>174584852
I did demon prince at 20
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>>174585469
I've never seen anyone use it besides myself
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What's a good level to stay around for farron invasions?
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Why does Eygon have a moaning image of his sister on his shield?
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hmmmm ok wow guys what the flip were they thinking with heides tower of flame in the scholar edition. if i remember correctly the heide knights were a rare optional tough enemy in the base game, kinda like black knights in 1. SO WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE LIKE 6 OF THEM WANDERING AROUND AN EARLY GAME AREA LIKE THEYRE A SIMPLE THREAT??? ON TOP OF THE BIG ASS KNIGHTS AND THEY BOTH NEVER BREAK AGGRO??? MAN WHA FUCK A DRAGON TOO?? ALL IN THE SECOND AREA HMMMM RIGHT OK WITH MY SLOT MACHINE LOW ADP DODGES AND MY MAPLE SYRUP ESTUS SIPS?? wow i guess ill kill ornstein later
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>>174585638
i did demon prince at sl 1 with no weapons and not even playing the game
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>>174585626
>implying chess is perfectly balanced
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess
I'm just taking the piss tho
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>>174585687
>andrefags getting raped by heide knights
lol
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>>174585687
get good?
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>>174585687

get ye gud or get ye gone
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>>174585687
>MAPLE SYRUP ESTUS SIPS

what are you trying to say here?
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>>174585687
That area was a motherfucker for me too, but I got through it.
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>>174585660
SL30+4 got me pretty regular summons earlier this week, and the same range I was able to farm Shackles very reliably a few months back.
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Will I get banned if I use cheat engine to spawn some items in DS2? I'd really rather not waste days farming 30 petrified dragon bones for a build I want to try.
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>>174585869

I'm SL 39 with a +3 weapon and I can't get shit for farron invasions, yet I get in instantly with a red eye orb, go figure.

Aldrich was no problem for my sl 120 character so it's not like summon covenants are broken for me, I just don't understand. I guess I'll just have to get a kind anon to drop a wolf ring for me to get this plat.
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>>174585989
https://gist.github.com/Atvaark/f308e1d8e00e07106452#will-i-get-banned-for-using-cheat-engine
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Randomly saw the Dark Souls 3 Design Works in the bookstore when I went to get my hair cut today, it's bloody fantastic. Impulse purchase on the spot.
How are the books for the first two?
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>>174586005
Watchdogs are fundamentally broken since you can literally only invade into Crucifixion Woods, and there's a long queue of Watchdogs who want in on the action with comparatively few Embered hosts to invade (you have to beat an Outrider K***ht, and then fight through that mess of Corvians before reaching the bonfire).

Now, if From expanded their territory to include the actual Farron Keep, then we'd be talking.
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>>174586159
What kind of book store gives haircuts?
Where the hell do you live?
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>>174586159
>going outside
>grooming yourself
>having money to impulse buy useless garbage

ALL NORMIES DIE
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>>174586101
Alright, so I should be good if I get my boss souls legitimatelyfrom ascetics and it shouldn't detect me spawning dragon bones in?
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>>174586220
i think i actually invaded into the swamp ONCE out of like 25 runs

maybe it was a glitch
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>>174586248
There's a cluster of Japanese businesses right across the river from NYC in Edgewater, NJ. Went in to see if they had any nendos I wanted to buy, walked out with this and the latest Aria masterpiece volume.
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>>174586269
>going outside
How the hell do you get money then?
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Is Raw Corvian Greatknife still okay? I need something for a caster.
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>>174586380
>How the hell do you get money then?

from my pcfc sugar daddy
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OMFG why didn't anyone tell me that ps4 video saving works this way?

I thought you needed to hit the button to start sharing but you only need to hit the button after shit already happens then it saves the last 5-15mins of game play

All this time I've been hitting the button and waiting for the red light to come on.
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Best side weapon for a sorcerer? Trying out greatsword of judgment but the damage isn't that great and re-applying the buff is annoying.
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>>174586720
>doesn't even know the basic functions of a machine he spent hundreds of dollars on

huh...
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>>174586005
I'm sl 23 with +2 and fairly regular invasions as watch dog. Less as a blue. Seems to get the most as a red
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>>174586768
they poor guy works all day, you think he has time to relax?
cut him some slack
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>>174586763
Astora greatsword
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>>174578758
What set is this, I only just started playing again since like, 2 months post launch
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>>174586768
>>174586821
Well, when I first got it said I can double tap to start recording but it also auto records.

When you start a recording it shuts off the passive recording. I only understood how to use one way to do it. Now I think I get it fully. Explains some od the strange things I didn't remember recording a few times.
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>want to start a new character
>that means spending 2 hours getting all the shit in undead settlement and high wall AGAIN

fuck
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>>174586763

I'm a fan of dark infused longsword on my Pyro. I imagine a crystal one would do fine?
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>>174586893
Looks like dancers with alva or lothric helm
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>>174586893
Dancer chest
Outrider Knight leggings
Knight gauntlets
Lothric Knight helm
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>>174577492
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>>174586893
It looks like a mix of

>knight helm
>dancer armor
>outrider leggings
>knight gauntlets??

Not sure on the hands. there's a few similar generic metal hands. Maybe lothric knight
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Imagine
>Update for rolling mechanics
>It is exactly the same as it is now
>However for every roll past your third roll in a row (counted as "in a row" if another roll is inputted before the bar is returned to full) gives you a stackable damage multiplier of x0.10 and removes some iframes that lasts until your stamina is fully recharged
>When out of stamina entirely, you have no iframes and gain an additional x0.20 damage multiplier until your stamina returns to full, with the x0.10 damage multiplier still applying to any more rolls you do before you replenish your stamina, running out of stamina again after replenishing a little will give you another x.20 damage multiplier, and so on
Shitters would have to properly time their rolls lest they want to get oneshot when they take a greatsword R1 after spending 5 minutes rolling without stopping
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I rolled herald as my first guy and now I'm at lothric castle, nearly done with the painted world and dragon peak. Did I fuck up? Is there any particular build that herald is good at? Faith?
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>>174577492
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>>174587128
sounds needlessly complicated

how about we just make midrolls have more recovery time, so people actually have a reason to use fast rolls
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>>174587178

Go full faith or go home.
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>>174587235
level 70 right now at 40 faith is that enough?
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>>174587179

What an abomination, just... kill it.
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>>174578758

I like to think im a good 10/10
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>>174587202
How about we don't fix something that isn't broken in the first place?

Some people really need to learn how to roll catch.

Protip: don't try it with an ultra weapon, switch to a smaller sidearm.
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>>174587313
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>>174587295

That's fine for now, but you're going to get the biggest jump in damage from 40 to 60. It depends on if you are going to commit to using miracles to fuck people up or just buff yourself/heal.

Also go get the sunlight straight sword if you haven't already, and kill everything with lightning blade + the WA buff.
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>>174587358
>How about we don't fix something that isn't broken in the first place?

how about don't pretend our own opinions are fact as a way to silence discussion about a game mechanic that other people may no entirely enjoy
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Does the stamina bar ever pass the health bar at some point?
Like at 15 Vitality, how much Endurance would you need to have it pass the bar?
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>tfw you beat a faggot who's pillarhumping with phantoms in Aldrich's gankhouse area

I put myself up as the stakes in a wager, I gamble with my soul. For I am saying, listen, my gods, I am the mightiest thing there is, and I prove it thus.
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>>174587443
So you think you can make dark souls better than the company that has made like 5 dark souls gsmes?
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>>174587443
It's a core mechanic of the franchise and it's not going anywhere.

If you don't enjoy it then I don't know what to say really apart from: deal with it. That's like going to a chinese restaurant and complaining that you don't like rice.
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>>174587358
You should be able to rollcatch with any weapon if you time it properly though, this isn't an instance where you should switch weapons because one guy shows up using an OP weapon and you need to be a hard counter, EVERY player is capable of spamming roll and being lucky enough with lag to never be hit, ever. What is even the point of using an ultra weapon if everyone I fight takes advantage of how horrendessly slow it is, I can't even use the weapon for the reason I'm using it.
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>>174587316
The only problem I can see is that the broadness of the shoulders makes the head look a little thin. Pretty safe pick overall though.

>>174587378
Honestly something about this manages to look alright. I like it but I can't understand it.

>>174587046
Shield pairing is a little weak but otherwise a solid look.
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>>174587534
how about we don't make "you need to be a painter to critique art" logical fallacies

>>174587542
how about we don't pretend that rolls have worked exactly the same in every single game and that we shouldn't be able to constructively criticize aspects of our hobby
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>>174587609
>What is even the point of using an ultra weapon if everyone I fight takes advantage of how horrendessly slow it is

Because that's the tradeoff for the massive damage and hyperarmor granted by ultras.

Fucking hell, if we let dsg balance the game, rolling would take half your stamina bar and you'd be swinging an ultra greatsword as fast a a dagger.

Ultras have their advantages and disadvantages just like all weapons.
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Where the Fire Fades Edition patch at tho
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>>174577492
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>if you look a the knight armour, you'll see a notch on the left pauldron,, a dent in the helmets gorget on the left side and a notch on the shield with a cut running down in the same direction as the strike damage on the rest of the armour pieces
>the original owner of the knight armour died from a massive blow coming in from above and left
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>>174587534
There it is, the quintessential counter-argument to any criticism of a game's mechanics.
>they made the same game 5 times therefore it's mechanically flawless

Give it up, you can't refute this infallible logic.
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>>174587745
okay so what the fuck do you want us to do?

just praise ds3 100% instead of actually discussing the game? i hope there isn't anything in ds3 you have ever complained about.

fuck off, retard
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>no shovel weapon
>they'll never call you the gravedigger
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are there any roll images fir ds3?

feel like making a new build
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>>174587883
Sure but your ideas are pants on head retarded. You're talking about changing a fundemental core mechanic drastically just because you're too dumb to switch to a SS or katana for roll catching.

I mean, what kind of response did you expect?
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>>174587908
>no gun weapon
>they'll never call you that guy who has a fucking gun
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>>174587609
I strongly disagree. Some weapons have long range swings or even spin-to-win attacks or just easier to time, even fugs has nice long rollpoke.
Greathammers (aside from greatclub r2, maybe?) are bitch to rollcatch, that's why you'll probably need to carry heavy broadsword to finish people.
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>>174587982
>You're talking about changing a fundemental core mechanic drastically
>slow down mid rolls a little bit

really nigger
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>>174587908
That's kinda lame anyway anon. There is a pick if you're desperate i guess.
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I was listening to this and thinking...how the fuck is it possible that this game's soundtrack hasn't won a shit ton of awards ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU

I feel like it's wrong that it isn't celebrated with live performances and awards.
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>>174588058
I thought you were>>174587128

If you want to slow down mid rolls you'll only end up hurting slow weapon builds since they'll never be able to get their equip load below 30%.

In any case, I really suggest you practice roll catching. I don't mean that in a condescending way. It can be a bit tricky at first but once you execute it properly you will destroy those pesky roll spammers.

I do find that a katana or straight sword work best. Curved swords are good as well.
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>doll required to be granted passage

I'm clueless, someone give me a hint.
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HAhahahaHA
BUM BUM
HAhahahaHA
BUMPIDABUM BUM
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>>174588198
Go do the Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>174587745
UGSes are fine, it's the player's maneuverability that's the problem. Midrolls are too fast, they're better than DaS1's fastroll.

Also, ye old "everyone on 4chan except me is the same person"
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Guys what was point of adding Aldia in DS2?
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>>174588236
Ok
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>>174588183
>If you want to slow down mid rolls you'll only end up hurting slow weapon builds since they'll never be able to get their equip load below 30%.

why would making it easier to hit someone with a slow weapon be a nerf

is there a reason you think fast rolls should be as pointless as they are now?
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>>174588250
We needed a substitute for big hat logan.
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>trying to do friede low level
>with a +6 weapon
this is suffering
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>>174588250
to salvage the nonsensical narrative

>tfw kaathe didn't show up at the end of ds3 and explain velka, the profaned flame, and why the fuck andre is at firelink
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>>174587859
what does it mean?
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>>174586348
Ah, going out for a cheeky nendos, eh?
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What does it mean when someone does the "call over" gesture after killing you? Is that BM or something else?
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>>174588183
I honestly wouldn't mind if the current midroll was changed to something like DaS1's midroll. As long as most people can't just roll through fucking EVERYTHING that's thrown at them on top of having decent defense and absorption, I'll be good.
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>>174587745
Except there barely is any trade-off. Some SS, rapiers, even the fucking valor heart has phantom range thrust attacks that outspaces a great hammer while only doing 100 or so less dmg when buffed.
The supposed trade-off doesn't really exist in practice because they're out-spaced, easily out-rolled, suffer substantially more punishment for misused stamina and rely on HA or perseverance to exchange which no one with half a brain falls for anymore.

There is no trade off using ultra or heavy and it's because mid rolling is so effective at such high weight numbers. If mid rolls worked like they did but only at much lower weights, then both sides would be trading something. As it is you can poise or armor yourself up to 69.9 which means using a havels, still rolling with untouchable i-frames and no stamina punishment for doing so while wearing decent armor and hitting barely softer than a great weapon.

Where's the tradeoff?
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>>174588262
are you on PC?
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>>174588305
Well I don't think fast rolls are completely pointless actually. The extra distance you cover is really helpful for characters that rely primarily on ranged attacks. I keep my burden below 30% on my pyro.

I will admit that the difference between 70% and 30% is minimal though. Maybe the solution is to add another breakpoint at 50%?

I'm just not convinced that slowing down (by which I assume you mean reducing the i-frames) mid rolls is the solution.

Ultras are fine the way the are. They have never been this powerful in the history of the souls series and some would even argue that they are OP. I really don't think we need to be buffing ultras directly or indirectly.
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>>174588435
It means whatever that someone wanted it to mean at that moment. Why don't you send them a message and ask?
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>>174588435
hey~
;)
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>>174587637

Yea the black knight shield is ugly as sin. For fashion I'd probably go with either a lothric knight shield or golden wing crest shield.
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>>174588462
>I keep my burden below 30% on my pyro.
How do you manage? Light armour/robes, two weapons to swap between and a small parry shield and I'm at something like 58%.
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>>174588359
+6 raw dsa with gold pine still might do the job.
You're probably at sl50 for that reinforcement pool, right?
>>174588457
>using a havels, still rolling with untouchable i-frames and no stamina punishment for doing
[distant sounds of flipping havelmoms, fortunate son starts playing]
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>>174588436
It works both ways anon. I'm sure you've narrowly escaped death plenty of times by roll spamming.

>>174588457
You are comparing top tier SS and estoc BUFFED with with LB/DMB to the absolute worst ultras in the game.

See>>174588462

Ultras have NEVER been this strong in the history of souls games and you're still complaining? What more do you want? Should ultras just one shot people?

Regarding weight: if you're below 70% wearing havels then you've invested quite a few points into VIT so you're probably gimped elsewhere.
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>>174588435
It means they're thirsty and you're going to satisfy them.
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>>174588462
>Well I don't think fast rolls are completely pointless actually. The extra distance you cover is really helpful for characters that rely primarily on ranged attacks. I keep my burden below 30% on my pyro.

fair enough

>I will admit that the difference between 70% and 30% is minimal though. Maybe the solution is to add another breakpoint at 50%?

so instead of slightly changing mid roll to actually be more of a mid point between fast roll and fat roll you want a whole new tier or rolls? i thought you didn't want to drastically change a core mechanic?

>I'm just not convinced that slowing down (by which I assume you mean reducing the i-frames) mid rolls is the solution.

i literally said increase recovery time:

>>174587202
>how about we just make midrolls have more recovery time, so people actually have a reason to use fast rolls

you aren't even reading my posts and you basically told me to shut the fuck up and deal with it in your first response.

>They have never been this powerful in the history of the souls series and some would even argue that they are OP

and light weight characters have never been more pointless either. in fact equip burden as a whole is basically a useless mechanic in ds3 since 99% of people are using midroll.
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I noticed there's voice chat in the options menu. Is that a real thing, or a removed feature? I turned it on out of curiosity and never heard anyone talk.
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>>174587883
Play the damn game or don't.

Stop acting like you can make a better game because you can't.

If you could then you would.

It's like some kid who never even played basketball commenting on how a nba all star should play instead.
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>>174588739
thirsty is for bottoms

hungry is for tops

know the differential sissy
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>>174588435
It's like, playful BM, if that makes sense. They're teasing you.
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>>174577492
>tfw not many simple breast plates
I'd like this a whole lot more if the chain mail skirt was shorter.
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>>174588865
why are you here discussing this video game that you say shouldn't be discussed

>It's like some kid who never even played basketball commenting on how a nba all star should play instead.

people never become infallible no matter how skilled they are you fucking idiot
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>>174588878
is saying "thank you" an ironic BM? Sometimes I genuinely enjoy the fight. what emote expresses this?
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>>174588609
>How do you manage?

Like this. What are you using that weighs so much?

>>174588786
Don't you think that if such a change would be healthy for the game then the devs would have implemented it by now?

I'm pretty sure it's been brought to their attention.
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>>174588983
my boipussy is only for my pcfcbf sorry
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>>174588946
Leave that to the other video game makers to discuss.

Your basically some random guy thinking he could do a better job with no proof that he could
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>>174588834
I've heard people talk now and then. Most people don't bother using mics, though.
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>>174588914
And had better texture.
Maybe you should wait for Deep Down, if it's still alive
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>>174577492
>tfw want to post fashion
>can't get my screenshots saved to my phone in higher than 360p
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>>174589009
>Don't you think that if such a change would be healthy for the game then the devs would have implemented it by now?

hmm what else has been brought to from's attention time and time again and they took forever to change and finally caved
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>>174588435
It means stop back pedalling.
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>>174589074
>>174588834
I keep mine turnes off after ds2. Everytime someone tries talking to me they were extremely autistic.
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>>174588994
A regular bow, or toast maybe (but that takes too long to play out I'd guess). Darkmoon Loyalty is decent but maybe they'll just think you're some weird weeaboo honor fag.

Really anything that isn't point down or applause is probably fine, contextually.
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>>174589053
>people with a hobby can't discuss the hobby they have unless they are professionals in the field

okay kid
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>>174589115
Giant seeds?

TwoP and Fog Ring in DS1?

Those are rather specific examples along with various weapons buffs and nerfs.

I don't think they've ever changed a core mechanic drastically over a year after release.
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>tfw made a heal slut but no big strong co-op partner to carry me to dlcs
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>>174589081
>no new info since 2013
That shit is dead in the ground.
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>>174588724
>I'm sure you've narrowly escaped death plenty of times by roll spamming.
A few times, but I know it's not because I actually avoided them, it's because I'm abusing a broken game mechanic that literally just turns me invincible as long as I keep slamming that button.

>Ultras have NEVER been this strong in the history of souls games
The Great Sword in Demon's Souls was pretty fucking strong, wasn't it? Also didn't it shove players back with every attack as though it was a fully-charged UGS R2 thrust? I remember one guy did a playthrough with it and most NPC/invader fights he just forced them off cliffs/two shot them with R1s
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>>174589276
since you can't infer from the image i'll spell it out for you

ornstein's helm had no plume in

>ds1
>ds2
>ds3 vanilla

obviously from didn't give a fuck about the plume, and changed their minds after the community entreated enough

from is not an immovable entity that can see all fucking outcomes. if they were they wouldn't need to ever patch their games.

>drastically

there's that fucking word again
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>>174589314
Think it's time for a heal slut homosexuality thread on /v/?
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>>174589272
It's one time thing to discuss what you like about the game ans a completely different thing to act like you are the end all be all expert on balance issues.
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>>174588724
>if you're below 70% wearing havels then you've invested quite a few points into VIT so you're probably gimped elsewhere.

Meta is SL 120, no one is gimping anything to get below 70%. That's part of the problem, you don't have to make any real choices or sacrifices to have it all.

You can abuse mid-rolling at 70% weight with the same iframes as <30%, do it with a high stam pool at low cost, while wearing a great shield and simultaneously choose from plethora of lighting fast, really good damage, long range thrust weapons that also use little stamina.

There's no trade-off, there's no choice It's the entire meta and it's enabled by mid-roll. It's a massive crutch everyone uses and guys like you start trying to bargain with themselves instead of admitting it's a massive load of cheese.
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>>174589489
sure
i need to start a cropped anime porn image folder anyway
bring ones with dialogue boxes that imply the character with the melting face is a male. those are extra valuable
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>>174589081
>>174589316
Just looked it up.
The armour...
I... I'm in love...
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Will sorcery ever be usable or have they closed the lid on Das3 for good?
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>>174589567
If they lowered the threshold I would immediately wear lighter armour because the difference in damage taken in negligible. The equip load brackets are not an issue
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>>174589547
you're right

it's one thing to only discuss the positive aspects of a game and another to bring up a valid discussion point in a video game discussion forum

you win

>act like you are the end all be all expert on balance issues.

you are actually a fucking retard. i'm only arguing that discussion should be had at this point.
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>>174589458
I honestly can't remember what was OP back in the days of DeS. Everyone was a noob and there wasn't really a meta - at least not that I knew of. DBS was pretty strong but things like the Northern Regalia were better IIRC.

I actually used the greatsword myself. Loved it but mainly for the style. I don't remember it being particularly OP.

>>174589459
Okay but you're talking about a cosmetic change to an armor set versus a mechanical change to a core system in the game. Pretty big difference don't you think?

I had never even heard of the Ornstein's helm debacle and I consider myself a pretty avid souls fan.
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>>174589567
It's so easy to stay under 70% now with even the heaviest armor sets, greatshields, and ultra weapon now with the changes to prisoners and havels+3 and favor +3. And the huge boost havels gets when paired with those two rings.

It may take 50 vit but you can wear almost anything and mid roll
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>>174589567
Sorry but that's just not true. Take my quality build for example.

SL 120

40 VIG
40 END
40 STR
40 DEX
15 VIT

That 15 VIT limits what I can wear. I couldn't possibly wear full havel's even with the rings.

The notion that SL 120 is full of pyromancer in full havels dual wielding ultras is nonsense. You DO have to make choices when it comes to your stats.
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>>174589694
>Okay but you're talking about a cosmetic change to an armor set versus a mechanical change to a core system in the game. Pretty big difference don't you think?

nope. i'm actually talking about how saying from would have done it is a cop-out because if from never changed their mind of things they would never have any patches EVER.

>I had never even heard of the Ornstein's helm debacle and I consider myself a pretty avid souls fan.

i think you over-consider yourself if you've played all 3 souls games and have never noticed that one of the most iconic helmets didn't have the big red plume on it

i'm done arguing with you. you have convinced me you are either a retard or a baiter at this point.
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>>174580302
onionbro is in the well outside. that guy who tried to fuck you over was an impostor.
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>>174589825
What do you faggots always post thise numbers instead of just linking a build anyone could easily tinker with from mugen?
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>>174589825
>That 15 VIT limits what I can wear. I couldn't possibly wear full havel's even with the rings.
>>174589667
>If they lowered the threshold I would immediately wear lighter armour because the difference in damage taken in negligible. The equip load brackets are not an issue

If armor doesn't matter what aspect of your character are you really limiting? I mean I guess you can't carry 4 ultra weapons in your pocket.
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>>174580339
i just hate the "i'm gonna flail around for two attacks, then breath fire on the ground" shit. it's especially annoying when that attack is the most frequent. other than that, the fight is fine.
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>>174580339
>panic rolling
>pestilent mercury
LMAO
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>>174589836
I just can't win with autists like this.

Sticking a feather on a helm is something that the artists and animators can do in an afternoon.

If you seriously think that's the same as making such a fundemental change as slowing down mid rolling then I don't know what to say.

Write to Miyazaki I guess.
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>>174589825
>>174589795
>>174589567
>>174589872

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179471
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>>174590058
>good health, stamina, damage, mobility, and heavy armor

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>174588458
Yup
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>tfw can't find this host at all
>don't want to give him the satisfaction of BC'ing out
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>>174589871
Because it's a cookie cutter quality build you moron. I'm not doing anything extraordinary.

Go see how much of Havel's you can wear with 15 VIG.

>>174589872

You're not quoting the same person by the way. >>174589667 is not me.

Personally I don't really care about armor except for fashion purposes but it just so happens that some of the cooler looking pieces are heavy.
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>>174589825

I didn't say full havels, I'm was only talking about havels shield a few posts earlier. The fact that you can use a GS like havels, and mid-roll, and... listen im not typing the same posts out all over again. Read the actual chain

>Take my quality build for example.
You're build for quality is shit. If it's a real quality build then you're using prisoners chain. Which makes your build 35/35 Vig/End. Those 10 saved points + the 5 vit from chain actually puts you at........30 VIT AND you still have 40/40/40/40 at the end of it.
Don't come into this discussion with a really poorly optimized build and present it as evidence against.

>The notion that SL 120 is full of pyromancer

We aren't talking about casters at all, we're talking about melee and the supposed "tade-offs" that don't actually exist.

>>174589795
Why are you telling me? That's the exact point ive been making.
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>>174590058
This is a joke right?

You don't honestly think that's a viable build do you?
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>>174589872
You're moving the goalposts. Your argument was that at level 120 you don't have to sacrifice anything on your build and can have it all, specifically citing the equip load brackets as the reason for it being broken at this SL.

You've then taken 2 posts, one that says that sacrifices do have to be made, and one that says the brackets aren't the issue, and presented them as though they are contradictory because they deal with separate points you've made to pretend you still have a valid argument.

You make sacrifices at 120, the equip load brackets are not an issue in your argument because there is no issue at 120. If there was, you would have 40 in every stat at that level, plus whatever ridiculous amount you would need in vit to wear the heaviest armour and biggest weapons.
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Pretty
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>>174590095
Yeah but you could easily swap to a lighter great shield and stack more health.
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>>174590058
Havel's GS, not full Havel's set. Can't you cunt's read or follow a simple post chain.

Fucking hell.
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Fire Fades newfags WHEN?
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>>174589009
>20 end
>negative abs
>fire clutch
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>giant's hitbox is blocking the arrows
>he used a seed and the other giant that was standing up just stared at me

holy shit, I'm losing it.
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Anyone on PS4 up for Friede coop? Pass is HELP
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>>174590108
l-let me know if you need help
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>>174590182
I think the weapon sucks. I don't think you would do too poorly with those stats with a great shield.

Could easily switch to a lighter great shield and pump much much more vit and swap to a decent weapon and it would be fine.
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>>174590165
What the fuck are you talking about? Quality builds don't necessarily use prisoner's chain.

You're decreasing your defenses by wearing prisoner's chain thereby negating the benefits of wearing heavier armor. What's the point?

Show me your build with armor and all so we can see how much absorbtion you have.

>We aren't talking about casters at all, we're talking about melee and the supposed "tade-offs" that don't actually exist.

What do you mean? Not having access to spells is a tradeoff you idiot.
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>>174590229
I can roleplay as one if you want

How do I beat deacons theres too many of them!!!!?
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>>174590267
A-are you cute?

You could lead me to the Cathedral of the Deep if you want, I was just gonna walk around and die a lot until I found it

O-or you could go deep into my cathedral, if you know what I mean

H-haha just kidding, what do you want the password to be?
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>>174590265
What sl and build?
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>>174590342
Deep
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>>174590395
sl60, faith build. I'm all set up to go crazy bleed mode on her.
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Who taught the falchion skeletons to do a spinning torpedo attack
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>>174590443
Alright drop your sign at the dilapidated bridge bonfire. Or is there a better one to put it at?
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>>174590261
Yes and?

It's a fast rolling caster. You're not supposed to be getting hit.

I got inspired by watching that japanese pyro with his fast roll build.

>>174590271
Except you have low VIT (HP) low END probably low damage as well, and all that just so you can get a bit more absorbtion from Havel's?

You'll still die in 5-6 hits from a SS or katana.
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what's a good amount of VIT to stop at for wearing good armor and a big weapon?
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Hi, i just pirated DS3 and i don't want to try learning it.
Give me some cheat mods or sth liek that
ty in advance
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>>174590446
You still need help? I want to come.
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>>174590495
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>>174590218
I'm just showing that you can pretty much wear anything at sl 120.

Hell with only the great shield you could probably fit FUGS or DUGs on there easy.
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>>174590193
>You're moving the goalposts

Hint: I'm not the same guy, just like that guy isn't the same guy as that other, different guy.

Anyway the point I was making is that not being able to wear heavy armor isn't a "sacrifice" since it doesn't really matter.

It's like calling a character squishy when they have no defense but 8 billion HP.

And behold my build: https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179473

with

>fast weapon
>all damage types
>high health
>high mobility
>hyper armor
>high damage
>heavy armor
>meme parries

And that's not even the most do everything build I could make, as it's missing ranged attacks.
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>>174590342
wait im launching the game
>>174590443
this guy can join too i guess

do you have a bonfire close to the swamp or the crucifixion woods?
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>>174590508
Yes please, pass is HELP
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>>174590319
>You're decreasing your defenses by wearing prisoner's chain

By 3%
THREE PERCENT

15 levels for THREE...

Im not even bothering. You're a fucking idiot. You didn't bother reading the original context this discussion took place in and now you've tried shoe-horn your way in halfway through it with irrelevancies.
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>>174590545
give me a cheat mod
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>>174590474
>fire clutch
anon...just don't
No one use clutch rings.
No one use chaos lmao infusion.
More important you have neko mimi for dark damage in TRC. 518 dark AR for SS senpai
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>>174590319
>prisoner's chain is shit bro
>uses fire clutch un-ironically

i simply have to laugh at your ignorance
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>>174590551
Wait, I'm a baka. I already have the first Cathedral bonfire unlocked, I just forgot about it.

If you still wanna help me do it though and show me stuff though that's fine. Drop your sign at the bonfire at the bottom of the stairs.
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>he finally agrees to a 1v1 honorabru durr or whatever
>pops blossoms
>throws Kukris
>using rolling pokes
>still can't overcome the homo faggotry that is Vordt's Borthammer

This is the only reason I still play DS3.
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>>174590548
This is basically STR build with zero ATT and ring slots. What the fuck is your problem?
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>>174589825
You can sacrifice 5 or even 10 VIG/END each, wear the Prisoner's Chain to get back all of/half of what you gave up, and put those extra points into VIT. Add on Havel's/RoF+3 and boom, the innate increased defense from the higher VIT and extra defense and absorption from the heavier armor you can wear will more or less equalize how much health you lose, and a Chloranthy+3 should mitigate the stamina loss.
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s i g h
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>>174590684
youre at the bonfire that leads to a ton of stairs right?
it doesn't seem to let me place my soap down there
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>>174590548
Fair enough you aren't the same person, you have still taken valid points from an argument and used them as invalid criticism of your different argument.

Regarding your build - make it so you can also cast projected heal, CBV and CSS while using the chaos blade without losing out on what you already have and I'll be convinced
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>>174590784
Yeah that's where I am. Hmm, maybe try back towards the enemies a bit? Let me know if you can't get it to work and we'll find somewhere else to put it.
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I shot CSS at some fag in full heavy set and deal 1019 damage agaisnt him. I bet this is one of chain fags or whatever
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>>174590596
sign down at the ariandel chapel bonfire
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>>174590548
Your build is unimpressive desu.

You have 6 more physical absorption than me whilst I have

>an extra ring slot
>a higher AR
>an offhand avelyn
>more than 200+ HP

I guess you do have three main hand weapons though... Other than that my build is just better in every way.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179478
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>>174590547
But i know that. I was the one originally making that point.

Way up the top at the beginning some shitlord was trying to argue that not being able to catch mid-rolls with heavy or ultra weapons the same way lighter weapons can was the tradeoff of for using those heavy weapons. That the problem wasn't the mid-roll effectiveness, but that you had to make a choice or swap weapons.

I am arguing there is no trade-off taking place at all because heavy and ultra weapons have no advantage anyway. The game is so poorly balanced that you can have mid-roll at 69.9% weight with iframes the same as <30% AND use a great shield AND have a huge stamina pool AND use a light weapon that actually does comparable damage, uses less stamina, is faster, roll catches AND has equal reach as great hammers/axes while ALSO not getting punished as hard for missing a swing.

There.Is.No.Trade-Off. The above scenario outclasses every other setup because mid-rolling is so fucking effective and easy to obtain.
That
Is
The
Point
of
All
This
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>>174590762
Sweep all thought of us from thy mind. As thy kind always have.
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>>174590817
looks like the entire area before the sage boss is locked out
i put it here
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Are quality builds still the best builds? Thinking of respeccing my 66STR
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>>174590902
Holy cow we melted her, thanks for the help.
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Thinking of making a heavy armored multi-hit gimmick build. Pyromancer is locked in because my character unfortunately started with pyro stats, made use of it with carthus beacon.

Is ricard's worth using? Any other weapons with good multi-hits? Farron Greatsword looks fun

Iron Dragonslayer is just a standin for a 'heavy armor' and will be replaced by whatever looks good with the weapons. (with the respective VIT points being put in VIG)

Using left eye rather than right eye for regeneration fun. Though if I take a liking to lighter armor ill switch out havels for the right eye.
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>Drunk friend deleted all my characters as a "joke"
>Played mostly quality before, so i decide i want to try something new
>Go for some sort of spellsword build, first pyro with Onyx, then faith
>All the cool new weapons are STR/quality, and can't be buffed anyway
>Try to stay strong, but my old quality build beckons, especially with the insane synergy between RoF, Havels, Chain and Life ring

Fuck, can anyone redpill me on this one way or the other? I find it hard to justify spending any points in the magic stats when they can be put to use in HP/stam instead
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>>174591001
T-That wasn't me.
;_; aw man.
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>>174590986
Which bonfire is that? I'll go there.
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>>174591014
Seriously? I'm so sorry, I just assumed that it was your sign. I'm super sorry for keeping you waiting.
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>>174591030
the Crystal Sage bonfire, you can put your soap before you enter that area

password is Deep, in case the other guy wants to join too, hopefully it lets us pass that entire road to the cathedral
i'll wait for your soap where im standing in the pic
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>>174591009
Nah, it's not you.
Magic in the game isn't really optimal.

Building like a warrior is an especially difficult habit to break for people who've been using quality, and it's hard to deny that quality is better.
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>>174590906
You also have about 7-24 less physical defense than the other guy's build
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>>174591073
Do you have any other bosses you want to do anon?
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>>174591074
Gotcha, coming.
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Its my first time playing dark souls 3 and i have my uchigatana to +4. i really liked the great scythe in dark souls but im wondering what weapon i should just throw all my titanite at? someone said in another thread i should use the sellsword twinblades but the uchi out damages both the sellsword and greatscythe. what do i buff?
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>>174591116
i'll probably die on the way there, but dont worry, you can just run straight to the next bonfire while i distract the enemies
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>>174591103
Doesn't matter. I have more HP. Although our EHP is roughly the same
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>>174591110
If you want I can rush Demon Prince, I'm already at the 2nd Dreg Heap bonfire. But if you don't want to I understand. Could you tell me your character name so I know its you? Pass is HELP still.
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>>174586159
when is the english version coming out?
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>>174591009
A lot of weapons, even heavy weapons were given really decent Chaos/Dark A int/A fth scaling. So you can actually have it all.

You can go dark or chaos herald curved sword, 40/40 int faith and with prisoners chain to obtain enough end/vig and vit to not get one shot. Same concept as quality, just infuse dark/chaos
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>>174591163
Don't see your sign yet.
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>>174591145
forgot to mention im going for a dex build
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are Gundy's Halberd or Black Knight Glaive decent?
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>>174591001
It was me. FAITH

Yeah bleed damage is op but if you ask a random dsg they will scream not to use bleed or carthus because NERF.
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>>174591218
Go with what you like, Anon.
But the Uchi and katanas in general are good.
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>>174590795
>you have still taken valid points from an argument and used them as invalid criticism of your different argument

My argument is only that you don't have to make sacrifices. Saying that "sacrificing" heavy armor doesn't matter is PART of that argument.

I concede you can't make a build that literally does everything. But you can make a build that has every single advantage you would ever want in melee combat which is enough, isn't it?

>>174590719
>This is basically STR build with zero ATT and ring slots. What the fuck is your problem?

Why does it matter if it's a strength build if it can do anything a pure dex build would do?

Is the dex equivalent going to be faster than me? No.

Do more damage? No

Have a wider variety of weapons to choose from? Fuck no.

Also the rings I chose directly benefit the build. What rings do you fucking want to run on a min-max build? Reversal ring? Horse hoof ring?

>>174590906
>Your build is unimpressive desu.

I literally said I wasn't trying to make the best build. Just one that can do all this:

>fast weapon
>all damage types
>high health
>high mobility
>hyper armor
>high damage
>heavy armor
>meme parries
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>>174591214
placed it just now
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>>174591224
Yeah they are both good.
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>>174591110
Fuck off that's my heal slut.
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>>174591218
You're given up speed for power going Uchi. Both are good enough.
Don't worry too much about titanite, you'll be swimming in it later.
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>>174591205
>Doesn't matter. I have more HP. Although our it doesn't actually matter either.

what did you mean here
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>>174591254
>Why does it matter if it's a strength build if it can do anything a pure dex build would do?
bait
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>>174591208
Uh, no, don't rush it. My two newest characters aren't there yet. I have a third I could come on, but I don't want to use him to the point of asking you to rush.
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>>174591280
Fug, nothing. Should we try a different password? Do I need to enable any special settings?
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>>174591323
>bait

Care to explain?
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>>174591346
Enable everything in the matchmaking setting.
Even voice to be safe, i dont have a mic but it's fine.

try the password Loli

capital L lowercase oli
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PS4
Could someone drop me an Arbalest? I've been putting together screen shots in the Alva set to convey a sense of travel, but I really feel like the Arbalest would better bring the narrative to life.
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>over 500 hours in dark souls 3
>always thought the max cap on estus was 14
>today searching for hunter ring found that estus shard on top of the roof

JUST
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>>174591293
I have so many weapons I want to try now that I'm not playing magic.

I need to level up Wolf Knight's GS, Profaned GS, Gundyr's Halberd, Black Knight Glaive. Fuck.
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>>174591346
Enable boi puss settings to OPEN and DEEP.
Also turn on game chat.
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>>174591254
Your build is making sacrifices. You're sacrificing a ring slot and defenses for prisoner's chain. You're foregoing magic entirely. You're not even at the softcap for VIT.

Your build is a cookie cutter STR build nothing more. It has plenty of weaknesses. The lack of a ranged attack being the most glaringly obvious.
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>>174591383
Alright, done.
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Dark souls > Dark souls 3 > Dark souls 2 sotfs/vanilla > Bloodborne
Haven't played demon souls soo yeah.
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>>174591421
placed
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>>174591315
That we have roughly the same EHP.

Do you understand how defenses and absorption work in this game? Hint: armor doesn't actually do that much.

I still have all the other advantages.
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>>174591208
Let me know when you are at Demon Prince.
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Is it ok for me to go to lv121?
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>>174591479
I guess just wait a couple minutes here. If it doesn't work, I give up.
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>>174591232
Oh well I appreciate the help, didn't mean to appear rude. I guess I need to be more mindful before starting boss fights.

>>174591329
Oh its no problem, I'm already there. I actually really like this level, I can zoom through it and grab tons of loot while dodging enemies. So if you do want to coop the boss I'm good whenever you are.
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>>174591553
Why would you need to?
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>>174590924
>I am arguing there is no trade-off taking place at all because heavy and ultra weapons have no advantage anyway.
Damage, range, area, HA, poisebreak, stagger duration. Those are your advantages. At a low tier of braindead PvP where people walk up and R1 each other, Ultras are going to win 100% of the time. Faster weapons are more versatile and have the potential to outplay other options, but you do have the burden of actually outplaying them, as you can't Hulksmash your way to a victory by swinging a Straightsword into a Greathammer.

The identity of slow weapons is that they're slow. By design, slow weapons will always have limitations in PvP which prevent them from being optimal in a theorycraft perfect play situation where nobody makes mistakes. You can't fix that unless you make them not-slow, but then they wouldn't be slow weapons anymore, which means there is no fix. Giving them so many advantages that they can Hulksmash victories out of anything short of flawless play would just turn PvP into a farce. The design of slow weapons is degenerate in PvP so trying too hard to balance that design will only make things worse. If you're unhappy that your slow weapon is slow, use a weapon that's less slow.
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>>174591556
hopefully it works, are you from Europe?
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>>174591254
>Why does it matter if it's a strength build if it can do anything a pure dex build would do?
>muh sacrifices
76SL cancer meta reeee
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>>174591568
I'll put my sign down as Maestro.
>>
>wrath of God's
>1600 damage
>Costs 1/6th my total fp

>Lightning arrow
>1000 damage
>Costs 1/32 of my total fp

Is Miyazaki actually insane?
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>>174591650
Nope, USA.

Ah, still nothing. Oh well. Thanks for trying Anon. I'll probably be okay though. Wish me luck!
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>>174591661
OK, awesome; thanks

>>174591537
I'm there right now, if you're good for this; thanks again
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>>174591586
This.

It honestly boggles my mind that retards still complain about ultras being "too slow" when they are borderline OP at the moment.

This is coming from someone who uses an ultra btw>>174590906

It's like these idiots want ultras to be straight swords with 750 AR.
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>>174591568
Yeah I guess it's a little confusing because I asked what sl and build then he responded to you and said he wanted to come too.
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>>174591695
one is physical and the other is elemental
try using lightning arrow against nameless king and compare it with the damage of wog
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>>174591701
good luck!
if you keep dying just make a run for the church entrance!
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Sorry, I figured I'd suicide so we could all try again; hope thats ok.
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>>174591484
Why the fuck did you come in here shitting on my build that was supposed to be a jack of all trades with your better build that has limited options.

>Extra ring slot

What are you even trying to say here? None of my slots are "wasted" on shit that doesn't benefit my build. Do you understand that PC only gives you 3% more damage in PvP? And that my build has more absorption even with the -10% from PC in PvE?

And my build has superfluous weapons because I'm trying to make a fucking POINT not make a PERFECT BUILD.

>>174591652
>76SL cancer meta reeee

What are YOU trying to argue?
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>>174591756
Why on earth did they not make it magic damage? That's mad
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>>174591568
Well that sucked. Gl. My sign is down if you need it.
>>
Crown of Dusk works for miracles in ds1
Since ds3 is a copypasta of Ds1 does that still apply or no?
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>>174591895
What are you trying to argue? 120SL being cancer meta because of muh sacrifices or something? Or about 120SL str builds are OP?
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give it to me straight, /dsg/.
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>>174591895
I'm not shitting on your build dude. It's a decent build. It's just not the godmode jack of all trades that you make it out to be.

I'm trying to point out that your build has weaknesses (as does mine and any build at 120).

You're the one claiming that there are no tradeoffs and that your build can do everything.
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>>174591989
overly edgy and looks constipated
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>>174591989
Bad
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>>174591586
>Damage, range, area, HA, poisebreak, stagger duration. Those are your advantages
barely, wrong, wrong wrong, wrong

>Damage
Barely an advantage. Fth builds and buffed pokey builds will chunk you as hard, faster, with their own stagger at less stamina
>Range
Thrusts on SS, rapiers, katanas and even valor have phantom range that are on par with great weapons. It's actually obscene
>Area
Doesn't fucking connect and is OUT-SPACED and OUT-ROLLED. Read the thread. Your area attacks don't actually land and don't catch. I have clear footage of this fact.
>poise break
IF they stand there and eat a clearly telegraphed attack. In the time it takes to swing, they can poke and roll.
>stagger duration

We aren't even playing the same game at this point. The advantages you listed are what SHOULD exist. In reality they don't and anyone who has done enough duels knows this.
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>>174591704
Gl. Didn't think I'd get hit there.
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>>174592061
this, fix the nose and remove the scar
also make her smile some more and fuck around with the lips
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>>174591213
Trust, me i've tried and spent a lot of time tinkering in mugenmonky

The thing is though, some of the best weps has some steep base stat requirements, so we are talking maybe 15-20 points "wasted" just there. Then there is the fact you have to sacrifce some ring slots to make the casting viable, and last but not least casting in general require a heavy investment in INT/FTH

Currently i'm running a sort of quality/FTH hybrid with 40 fth for buffs and arrow, and even though SSS is fucking good in that build, i often feel like those points in faith are wasted
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>>174592123
We wiped, sorry; you all up for one more attempt?
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>>174592089
So why do you use an ultra if they're so shit?
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>>174592172
Yeah got summon as a spear
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>>174592027
>I'm trying to point out that your build has weaknesses (as does mine and any build at 120).

Tell me the glaring flaw. I could swap the Avelyn in for the Warpick and only lose like 8 AR. I would still have all this:

>>fast weapon
>all damage types
>high health
>high mobility
>hyper armor
>high damage
>heavy armor
>meme parries

and now a ranged attack. I'm not actually sure that crossbows do thrust desu, but not being able to do thrust damage doesn't really matter.
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>>174592154
Well, no. you can't have a full 60/60 caster and full 40/40 melee at SL 120. You said spell sword which implies a mix of melee and casting, which is what chaos/dark is for.
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>>174592190
He's not tryhard who use top tier "weapon of week"?
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>>174592190
>So why do you use an ultra if they're so shit?

because he is only the most skilled of patricians

why don't you try using whips mastermind
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>>174592252
Where is dark damage? No one fall for meme parriers anymore
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>>174592154
>sacrifce some ring slots

how is it a sacrifice if it gives you advantages

really struggling to wrap my mind around this
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>>174592172
Damn my bad.
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>>174592329
>No one fall for meme parriers anymore
>Don't put a meme parry there
>You call me out for no meme parry instead

I know the game, now.
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I've been playing a lot with a twink that went with utility and has a lot stated in health and endurance for fun long winded fights, but now i'm looking for the complete opposite, what are some glass cannon builds to cheese the hosts and his phantoms before the blues arrive
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>>174592384
Nah I fucked up and got wrecked by him too. I think I'm going to have to call it a night here at 3:30, sorry guys. Thanks for the attempt though.
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>>174592190
Because the pvp in this game is cheese really and I hate the sword and board meta. I like the idea of ultra weapons, i like the look but I know I'm at a distinct disadvantage when I come up against a light infused havel shield rolling cunt

I've now thrown winged twin axes into the mix for the real cunty run and roll poke fucks. If it's another ultra user Ill go great hammer. But people trying to make a case that ultra weapons have their own advantages against the mid-roll meta is objectively bullshit. It just doesn't exist in the game because the mechanics are wonky shit.
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>>174592403
I don't understand your point. My "dagger" build will destroy your "str" build. I don't need to use STR weapons.
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>>174592421
One more attempt?
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>>174592089
t.UltraUserWhoAssumesEveryLossIsAWeaponBalanceProblem.

Oh boy you have clear footage of people rolling through your Ultra swings? This is groundbreaking. Range numbers are available, Ultras are longer than those weapon classes. More importantly, their range is real range, meaning a large gap between their hitbox and hurtbox, not just forwards movement during an animation. This matters when it comes to whiff punishing or outspacing things. If you want to add the shockwave stagger to weapons which have that, you can extend this even further.

They're not optimal PvP weapons, but they have plenty of advantages.
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>tfw from soft sells a new DLC that allows you to access archdragon peak & untended graves
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>>174592463
Nah I'm sorry, I have class in the morning, really need to sleep.
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>>174592416
Vordrs.
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>>174592453
>But people trying to make a case that ultra weapons have their own advantages against the mid-roll meta is objectively bullshit.

Aren't you the same guy who was arguing that everyone mid-rolling regardless of build was a good thing? Or no?
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>>174592463
Knight here.
Got summoned as a spear, I apologize.
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>>174592271
Ultras are pretty flavour of the week at the moment.
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>>174591232
Have you fought the guy named God's Hand ?
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Is king's crucifix the best faith weapon ?
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>>174592623
What?

>>174592653
Huh?
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>>174592797
I'm saying that the reason I didn't show up for another demon prince attempt is because I got summoned for the spear of the church fight
I was wearing Lapp's set.
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>>174592537
No. I was arguing that the fact anyone can mid-roll without having to sacrifice anything has enabled this great shield, roll spam, light poke meta. Where you can basically have it all; damage, speed, roll-catching attacks, range, good iframes, heavy great shield, reasonable absorption and good stamina then no trade-off exists between weapon classes.
Specifcally because mid-roll is so easy to achieve.

>>174592645
Because low quality shitters, invaders and hosts who don't pvp much get caught out by the WAs and R1 hyper armor spam.
They get outclassed pretty quick when you start consistently dueling against people who know wtf is going on. When it's 100% back away, back away, roll out, roll out, roll in, roll out, poke.
You'll never catch a roll with an ultra because the range, area, speed and hit detection is fucked.
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>>174592838
Oh. He went to sleep. I was the dagger. Faith was the pw we used earlier when I muled his items over for him.
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>>174592846
>Where you can basically have it all; damage, speed, roll-catching attacks, range, good iframes, heavy great shield, reasonable absorption and good stamina then no trade-off exists between weapon classes.

yeah but you can't do that with 12 attunement slots and throw out css at max cast speed

shit build
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>>174591386
You were losing nothing in invasions/summons, that's why I was lazy personally in getting my last estus shard. PvE is easy shit with 14 alone.
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>>174592623
> Knight
Btw, how can I bypass censorship filter? I swear that I saw several people with
"knight" in their name.
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>>174592776
it's pretty good. sunlight straightsword is pretty busted right now as well
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>>174592893
Oooooh.
Well if its any consolation, I won my spear fight.
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>>174592838
By the way I think we would have done better if you stayed on below and me and the caster bled out Pain and of course if I avoided dying quickly.
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>>174592963
CE but I think you risk a bun if you bypass filters
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Can some kind annon reccomend a good build for ds2. I played as a pure strength build with the meat cleaver in des and a dex katana ninja in ds1
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Lapp's set saved this game.
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>>174592995
I died but managed to kill one. Had on pve rings in a 1v4 and I didn't have my hyper armor weapon or spear fragment equipped.

Landed a parry but no hornets to guarantee ohko.
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>>174592776
gonna be honest, none of the FAI weapons feel holy
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At which point does low level pvp end and low level griefing begin?
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>>174593087
Dark hand
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>>174593087
when your estus matches the hosts ecks dee(which can't happen because he can get to 8estus before even killing abyss watchers )
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>>174592950
>mfw not grabbing the last shard on purpose so my Estus/Ashen Estus split is an even 12/2 for PvE and not 13/2
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What weapons do I use when I want to be ottoman?
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>>174593047
You can just name yourself Knyght or something.
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>>174593047
Ok, I'll be k***ht.
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>Invaded by Dark Spirit K***ht Nigger
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>Wolf ring
>DMB
Really grinds my gears knowing I'll need to pool all my characters accumulated concords/swordgrasses to speed up this gay progress. Don't mind doing sunbroin' multiple times for achievements even when I already have +2 unlocked on another character.

They should rework Invasion areas where Darkmoon is fighting Aldrich in Irithyl/Anor Londo and Blue Sentinels are up against Watchdogs in the Crucifixion/Farron areas as priority regardless if boss is dead, even for other areas that don't include a covenant conflict.
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What respec exploit?
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How does the Rosaria glitch work on the Ps4?
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>>174593381
those aren't tradeable
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>>174592846
>They get outclassed pretty quick when you start consistently dueling against people who know wtf is going on

So you're saying that the more skilled your opponent is, the harder it is to win... Who would have thought.

Do you really think that this only applies to ultras?
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how do i cheat for additional respeculations
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>>174593206
any curved sword
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>>174593451
>respeculations
giggled lul
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What was this guy's major malfunction?
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>>174592776
>not going str/faith with dark blade for an ar1000 crucifix and slapping shitters around with it
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>>174593456
What armour?
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>>174593381
>Pooling
>Covenant rewards

Anonymous I have some news for you, and it isn't good...
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>>174593425
Didn't consider that being the case. Pretty sad then, since obtaining them on high level characters takes forever.
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>>174593008
Yeah, I realized too late that we'd paired up wrong.

>>174592963
I wasn't really named Knight, I just had on Knightly stuff.
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>>174593491
Killing innocent imprisoned firekeepers that have no tongue.
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>>174593076
Yeah, I had on all my PvP stuff.
FaP, Chain, I think Havel's+3 and either Wolf Ring or something else. I forget the last one.
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>>174593206
Scimitar
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>>174593079
>the closest thing we have to Excalibur is wolnirs holy cheese grill
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>>174593130
Wait your estus charges effect matchmaking?
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>>174593690
Turks aren't arabs though.
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>>174593381
Isnt Wolf Ring +3 a thing?
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>>174593635
could tongue bitch ds1 be tongue bitch ds3?
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>>174593740
turks aren't humans and ds is a game about HUMANITY

get off my board roach
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>>174578628
fallen knight but with the dark mask was always my favourite
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>>174593754
Need all rings for my steam achievements mate, so only NG/NG+/NG++ and not DLC.
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>>174593754
Need 0, +1, +2,+3 for ring trophy
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>>174578628
>K***ht with a katana
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>>174578628
The stigma surrounding that thing is too great for me
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>90SL
>host in full drakeblood+havel GS+Lorian UGS
>fast roll
How fucked invasion range was in last patch?
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>>174593819
Calm down comrade. You seem to have more humanity than you know what to do with.
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>>174578628
It's the first cool looking armor set a new player is likely to stumble on, so it carries the burden of being associated with shitty players

That said, dismissing everyone who wears the set is fucking retarded.
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Do I have to wear havels ring all the time in ds1 if I want a fast roll?
I haven't taken it off in ages. Wtf guys?
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>>174594017
It's actually a good thing that people associate it with bad players. People drop their guard when you wear it and get even more triggered when you kill them and point down afterwards.
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>>174593130
Yeah but they'll still be at +2 or so while the invader can have +10
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>>174594052
try wearing fastman armor

then you will be able to fastmanroll without haveler ring
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>>174594089
>it and get even more triggered when you kill them and point down afterwards.
Point down lost it's charm because of people like you. Everyone use point down. Casuals, pve fags, pvp fags, e-celsbs. It's standard gesture like bow now
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>>174593763
>rosArIA
>anastAcIA
:thinken:
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Would Censored K***ht be a good meme name
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>>174592453
>Mid roll meta

That goes both ways pal, Ultra weps weigh a lot, so does heavy armor, greatshields even more so.

The fact it that mid rolling havels with greatshields and fast weapons are rare because they are really not that good

Ultras are also fine, and i would argue that they have the highest skill ceiling. A good ultra user with a decent build is a nightmare to play against, a poor ultra user on the other hand is usually a free kill

Also, a good ultra user (or any decent player really) also has a plan B in form of a different weapon like a rapier, SS or crossbow to finish off people. Shitters with ultras usually build their char to have 69,9 weight and only one particular weapon and a smart player will always find a way to counter that
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>>174594017
I never liked it because like every other armor in the game, it is just fucking cloth and rags everywhere.
If it was like this and had plate greaves and was... actual plate, then yes.
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I'm playing Dark Souls 3 for the first time and I have a question. Is there anything in the game that's unique or is it all fucking copy pasted from Dark Souls 1? I just got to Anor Londo and there are fucking silver knights with greatbows shooting at me while I'm on a narrow pathway BUT THIS TIME THERE'S LIKE 4 OF THEM GOSH ISN'T IT UNIQUE?!
What's fucking next? Sif and Artorias? Gwyn? A scaleless dragon? I haven't found an area riddled with traps yet, unless that was supposed to be the skellington area.
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>>174594089
It's not as clear as 'im fucking retarded please backstab me' as the gargoyle helm, but I can see that working.

>>174594181
It's the only vaguely negative gesture, it being parodied was inevitable.
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>>174594089
I do this on my anti twink
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>>174593206
Use seething chaos and stand in it screening ALLAHU SNACKBAR
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Changing Name with CE is safe?
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>>174594241
I don't mind the referencing due to the lore being all centred around rebirth and deathlessness, but to each their own I guess.
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how the fuck do you do nameless on a faith build
my lightning arrows do like half a percentage of his healthbar
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>tfw you and Shira have some jolly cooperation and defeat Midir together
Random Phantoms a shit. NPCs all day.
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>>174594348
not that guy but dark souls 2's story also featured death and rebirth and an endless cycle but it also was it's own game and wasn't just "hey remember this part? wasn't that great?"
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So I want to make a new file and I wanted to do an int/faith build, what's a good weapon to use, starting class, and level to stop at? Kinda a new fag when it comes to magic since I usually go either pure strength or pure Dex so I wanted to try something new.
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>>174594362
dorhy's gnawing
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>>174594362
raw weapon

you didn't think magic was effective on everything like melee did you
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>>174594241
>gwyn
>a scaleless dragon
boi, you're in for a good one
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>>174594401
Well magic isn't .... Fun.
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Anyone on PS4 need help with anything? I kind of feel like playing an escort with someone, but I don't have anyone to do it with.
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>>174594226
If only robes, coats etc. were removable parts of the armour.
>plate greaves
Having full plate armour would be cool, but it makes sense to not use plate greaves if you're traveling on foot. Horses when?
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>>174594362
SSS + a 100% physical shield
Circle strafe
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>>174594131
But if I wear a medium armour set, I still have to wear havels ring to be able to roll fast.
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>>174594241
No Sif/Artorias in sight, Abysswatchers are the most related to them which is considered one of the easiest boss in the game.

There's Nameless King, plunging attack lmao wyvern though.

What pisses me off more is how Dark Souls 3 has the color scheme of Bloodborne and probably copy-pasted blood splurts. Otherwise it's a decent sequel, massive improvement over the slow Estus and clunky combat souls.
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>>174594401
>Pure Int/Faith
Don't.

Go Int/Dex or anything else.
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>>174594348
I think Dark Souls 3 goes a little overboard with the referencing; it's such that the game's original content is either drowned out by or irrevocably rooted in old stuff.

Lothric should have had a much greater focus than it did, but it hardly feels like we get to enjoy it at all. Aldrich and everything going on with the Cathedral of the Deep and the Evangelists sure is cool, but then Aldrich himself kind of bogs it down.
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>>174594490
medium armor is not fastman armor

you are smarter than this
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>>174594448
Plate greaves pls.
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>>174594404
mate that's filthy hexer shit, get that out of my sight you heretic

>>174594406
wouldn't blessed be better than raw?
>check mugenmonkey
>it's not
hello?
I thought they made blessed useable

>>174594401
I did a pure casting build that used all trees of magic
Consider cheating/muling in a darkmoon ring and a sage ring at the very start to make your life less hell
don't bother with offensive miracles, just use it for heals/buffs
start levelling int to ~25 first, then level faith to 25 as well & then level them equally
Pyro is slightly weaker than sorceries until you get GCFO then it's slightly better, but sorceries remain more versatile
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>>174594615
>hello?

hi anon!
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>>174594226
Petition to add coatless variation when? Actually I wouldn't mind having clothless variations of a lot of armor sets.
>poncholess vilhem chest
>capeless slave knight armor
>sunset armor without all the rags on it
It literally wouldn't require any new asset to be made, just deleting the textures of the cloth.
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I need pictures

Pictures of a cute little painter!!
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>>174594682
>It literally wouldn't require any new asset to be made, just deleting the textures of the cloth.

i'm sure it's exactly that easy
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>>174594392
I didn't like DS2 lore due to how segregated it felt apart from some scant connections, and would have rathered it built more upon DS1. Though that said, I preferred the DS3 referencing when it was more subtle and not literally the same level.

Good example would be how the ashen lake is now smouldering lake, with a completely different aesthetic and all. Sort of like Izalith fucked Ashen Lake and had a petrifying sad baby (which I like). Not commenting on the level design, just the referencing.

>>174594535
I agree. Aldritch in general was a bit disappointing. Wish the whole ocean deep stuff was expanded on and given a worthy boss to herald it. Angels too.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/66lzam/lore_that_means_the_killer_is/

>Being this autistic
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>>174594362
Raw sword with carthus rouge
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>>174594615
>I thought they made blessed useable
considering you get regen, it's not so bad. but you can buff raw so, yeah, unless you're not buffing, no reason not to go raw
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>>174594714
That is quite literally all that was done to make the image in the post I replied to, may not be the case for every set but it sure was for that one.
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Anyone need a heal slut to follow them around ?
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>>174594694
Why would Vilhelm be acting like a manservant to the painter? They're keeping her locked up away from her canvas and paints. He's more like her jailer than anything.
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>>174594835
It's lore, you wouldn't understand
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>>174594821
You in the middle.
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>>174594821
>space before punctuation
Why do people do this?
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>>174594792
Holy shit you can buff raw?
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>>174594887
I don't know .
>>
>yorshkas chime+9: 246 spellbuff
>yorshkas chime+10: 247 spellbuff
>canvas talisman+9: 220 spellbuff
>canvas talisman+10: 220 spellbuff

it's safe to say they don't even care
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>>174594885
Middle is perfect.
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>>174594925
You can Buff any perimeter infusions
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>>174594885
>You in the middle.

i wish

i'm already the bottom row but ugly
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>>174594947
Titanite slab saved!
Looks like you can use those limited slabs somewhere else!
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>>174593440
>This cherry picking
>more skilled opponent

No, I'm saying against an equally skilled opponent you will not win because there is no trade off.
See this is what happens when you cherry pick one line and argue that in a vacuum. Pretty easy to make a case when you ignore all evidence against. There is no trade-off, there is no advantage to leverage to find a way to win with ultras.
Ultras have big damage, well so do lighter infused weapons. Ultras have range but not significantly bigger than thrusts. In fact, some heavy ultras are actually outspaced by lighter weapons, its retarded by its true. Ultras have "area" control apparently, but its slow that will never catch a roll because mid-roll has so many iframes and more often than not completely wiffs. Meanwhile the pokers have superior speed, stamina use, roll catching and a great shield.

This is in the context of duels against decent players. Anyone can bash a host that doesn't want to pvp or some shitter in a FC. All things being equal in a higher level duel environment, there is no advantage ultras have over the roll poke meta. The strengths that you're supposed to play to don't exist because the mechanics are unbalanced and wonky, and mid-roll is viable cheese that can't be punished without copy-catting.
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been bored with my weapon selection so i've been running through NG+ to get more, but theres so many builds i wanna try and so little time so i've considered making a seperate account and using megamule but I'm not sure if that could get me soft banned, and if so, would it get me banned on my main account as well or only the family shared one
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>>174595049
>limited
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>>174594340
yeah but be wary that blades of darkmoon roster might glitch out, so remove all covenants and go in offline mode
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>>174594947
>Canvas talisman
>not Talisman
do your own research next time instead of relying on what others use
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>>174595098
literally limited but not figuratively limited
>>
>get blueberry summon
>spawn in to a hectic scene of a host fighting a red...
>... and a message saying Duty Fulfilled and a dark spirit had returned to their own world
>so instead of joining in killing the host, one invader decided to BC out to deny me an ear instead
I'm almost impressed at that level of dedication.
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>>174594998
Oops, Parameter*
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>>174595115
I was pointing out the oversight, not stating that i use it.
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>>174595075
the strength of ultras comes from trading
if you can trade on one of the four hits the enemy does, you'll most likely come out on top in a fight
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>playing through scholar
>get to Heide's
>tfw blue eye orbs
these were such a good fucking mechanic, man.

Why the fuck did they not bring this back? It was genius.
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>>174595115
>do what i tell you to use not what those other guys tell you to use.. think for yourself!

huh
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/66k2ep/just_a_warning_there_are_modders_on_ps4_now_just/

literally no excuse to play this garbage on ps4 now
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>using HA big weapon with poise
>losing against two dark sword mashers
>2017
End my life
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>>174594220
>ultra is good against bad
>ultra is good when you switch it out
>crossbow to finish ppl off

Yeah ok. The "crossbow to finish off" gave you away
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>>174595281
>why can't I r1 trade while I poise tank all the damage, the post
Ultra shitters are the best at this game.
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>>174594220
>A good ultra user with a decent build is a nightmare to play against

"it's never attack first episode"
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>>174595104
wait what do you mean, remove all covenants? just unequip them or remove them from my menu, drop them into my box, what?
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>>174594792
>>174594615
>remember I have 32str which blessed also scales with but raw loses so it'll probably be better
>check heavy as well because why not
>heavy is better and can be buffed, including with blessed weapon

I uhh...
wait what's the point of blessed again?
is its only purpose REALLY just infusing your offhand for some tiny health regen?
is it the same with simple as well? I guess atleast that doesn't have a buff though
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>mfw i afk in chameleon for 20 minutes and this phantom still hasnt black crystald out
>mfw when im also too lazy to walk to the boss room 3 feet away
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Huh. I didn't know you could knock someone using the Onondaga and Uranus WA out of the air with a Stomp. The more you know.
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>everyone who says anything positive about DaS2 or says theyre playing it after DaS3 and BB came out are now permabanned on sight
y/n?
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>>174595181
What do you mean by parameter infusion
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>>174595259
>confirmed
>no proofs
Average reddit thread.
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>>174595482
Nah. Just let them be objectively wrong. They're not harming anyone but themselves.
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>>174595115
You are my favourite poster, talisman autist kun :3
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Good build for pvp/pve?
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>>174595482
mid quality bait
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If I go through the game as normal, get to the Cathedral, IGNORE Sirris, join Rosaria's Fingers, summon Heysel in Farron for her gesture, then go grab the ashes near the Wolf of Farron bonfire, hand those in, rezone Firelink to get Sirris to show up, will Sirris still be friends with me and allow me to continue her quest?
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>>174595694
I believe you have to offer up a tongue to summon heysel as a friendly, so no.
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>>174595482
DaS2 is objectively the best game though
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>>174595559
I'm autistic about a lot more than just talismans
like the fact the meta level is way too high

Then again, if we weren't autistic, would we even be here?
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>>174595812
I agree. Way too many stats for big str weapons have as much poise as possible. 65~80 is plenty viable
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>>174595281
It's time to join Vordt hammer twinking cancer panzer squadron.
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>>174595564
strength
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>>174595812
>meta level is way too high
Explain.
>le 80sl caster maymay
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>>174595694
You have to offer a tongue for rank for Heysel to show up. If you do so, Sirris will get mad once you get to firelink. You can still have her sign appear and get Cr8's stuff f you don't return before finishing Irithyll, but the cat ring is out and so are Hodrick's stuff
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>>174595902
there's two possible ungimped builds at 120
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>>174595281
Whaaaaaaaaaat? You can't 2 shot other players by smashing your head on the controller?

Oh the humanity! What an injustice!
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>>174595989
>but it's fair if they can because straight swords are historically the most viable weapon
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>>174595694
Nope, Heysel and Sirris are mutually exclusive
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Anyone on PS4 willing to spare a guy the Cathedral Knight Helm, Gauntlets and Leggings?
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>>174595725
>>174595918
>>174596019
Thought as much. A year playing this game and I've never risked going for Heysel's gesture due to fear of locking myself from Sirris' quest. Some anon mentioned it the other day and I started doubting my own knowledge of the game. Thanks for clearing it up anons.
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>>174596010
learn 2 parry

also, the two R1's you have to eat from SS deal like 500 damage, unlike the two R1's from ultra which deal 1000 damage
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>>174595989
t. shield+SS "never hit first" metashitter
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>>174596072
Someone had claimed that you could get Heysel friendly by just rebirthing to avoid angering Sirris, but it's false.
>>174596010
Don't forget that Dark Souls is about realism. Never mind the dual anime swords of helicopter flips
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>>174596161
>deal 1000 damage
Maybe only 66STR Yhorm or Ledo
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Isn't TFF Edition supposed to be available today ? The version with both DLCs included is still 85 euros on Steam.
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>>174596030
I've got the helm and gauntlets if you want 'em, no leggings though I'm afraid.
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>>174595951

Sure, but that doesn't get better at SL80.

>>174596010

I don't know about that. If you're going into a warzone like Souls characters are, the most viable weapons would be polearms, of which the Zweihander was basically a member. Most of the UGS class would be too heavy and clunky to use, but the Zwei and Astora UGS would probably be alright.

Polearms would be good not just for armored PvP, where fullplate is more than enough to protect you from most swords and you don't need a shield, they would also be pretty crucial for dealing with all the giant rabid beasts in the world. Don't want those things getting close to you.

Swords are easier to carry around is all.
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I've never used the PUGS and I don't have a terrible amount of trouble fighting people with them, but I still think they're shit. They are stupidest looking weapon in the game and I like anime-shit.
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>>174596072

You just do one in NG and then the other in NG+.
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>>174596354
Sure. Can you come to the depths of the painting bonfire? Or should I warp to High Wall? pass is gifts.
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>>174596386

I really hate how passive they force you to be, because if you try to get anything started you're going to eat shit.
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>>174596165
t. "why aren't you running in to my HA swings, your weapon is overpowered" shitter
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>>174596267
2 r1s, m8. If your str weapon can't deal at least 500 damage on an r1, is it really a str weapon?
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>>174596420
Depths of the painting it is. Co-op or red sign?
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>>174596356
>Sure, but that doesn't get better at SL80.
pure int
pure faith
pure pyro
pure dex
pure str
maybe even some pure end/vgr/vit with raw weapon meme
quality with compromises
spellblade with compromises
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>>174596480
SS+shied is meta king since release.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXa4aLG_tAw
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>>174596331
I think TFF is not available in digital format.
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>>174596480
Except the dude specifically said he was shit for losing to them
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>triple kill 3v1 as mad phantom despite needing only 1 phantom
It's like poetry, this game.
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>>174596615
if you're 3v1 you can't triple kill because there's a single opponent
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>>174596496
>
either or
but if you leave a white sign, we can do the gravetender
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>>174596548
>pure int
>pure faith
>pure pyro
>80SL
LMAO
those builds are free frags for any str/dex build
>pure dex
>pure str
120SL pure dex doesn't exist huh?
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>>174596656
I prefer writing numbers in descending order when I talk about things, since I was at a disadvantage.
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One of my biggest gripes was how much farming in DS2 you needed to do if you wanted to get all the item sets. You needed to fuck up your game by burning shitloads of ascetics to get all the item drops and jesus fuck the visible auros set and the catarina set were actual cancer, along with that thing merciless roenna dropped that I never actually ever saw drop ever.
How big of a problem is this in DS3?

Also is it possible to max all the covenants like in DS1 by farming enemy drops or do I have to actually do PvP like in DS2 for them?
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>250+hours
>still havent done dlc
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>>174596431
You know you don't have to l1 3 times for the combo, right? You can r1 then l1x2 and skip the annoying charge from the first l1. So it's like gaels in that to start the combo you only need to land a r1.
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>>174596716
DS3 has a FEW sets that have to drop from regular enemies, but it's usually not too bad and there are plenty items to increase your item discovery. Enemies always respawn too, so no Ascetics.
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>>174596803
>>174596803
>>174596803
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>>174596712
>120SL pure dex doesn't exist huh?
correct
show me an SL120 build that doesn't waste points

36 vigor, 40 end, 60 dex is still only 106

40 to 60 dex is barely an improvement
40 end is hugely overkill

>b-but you can level vigor to 72, it totally gives something of value!
>b-but you can level dex to 99, it's good I swear
>b-but you can level vitality for fashionscape!
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Started a mage for the first time. Does sorcery suck cock or is it just me?
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>>174596496
Thanks anon
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>>174596978
Anytime anon! Good luck finding those leggings, the bastards are pretty stingy with their drops.
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>>174596716
>catarina
Isn't that found in chests in the dlc? Did you mean painting guardian? And no, no such bullshit in 3.
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>>174596906
With the recent changes to sharp, it's possible for some weapons to get good scaling up to 80 dex. 40 end is overkill for dexswords. No reason to not have 44 vig and some vit. Reminder that vit also grants defenses. You also might want some att for wa
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HOW THE FUCK DO I GET ARSTOR'S SPEAR IF I ACCIDENTALLY USED THE SOUL OF THE ROTTEN GREATWOOD

PLEASE HELP
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>>174597419
NG+ or mule
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>>174594401
I've done it, it's not fucking worth it friend.
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for SL60 hyper mage, should i use crystal soul spear or regular soul spear as my main spell?

crystal has the potential to oneshot at this SL range but it's so expensive
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>>174595202
They can never get Dorkmoons working.
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>>174600653
I believe soul stream is the way to go, get the scholar ring
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