/scg/edg/scedg/ Elite Star Dangerous Citizen General #155: 30th

beep boop I am a faggot, the 3.0 schedule is out and can be found here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

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3.0 schedule is irrelevant.

People pay 10000 dollars for star citizen?

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>all the whining about the framerate
so this thread is just infested with goons? the framerate has improved for me, the occasional lockups have become less frequent and not as bad when they do happen, and there's been a bunch of improvements to starmarine overall; weapon balance is better, vaulting and ladders are smoother, grenades actually go where you throw them with no delays, etc. how come nobody talks about this stuff? it's actually fun to play now.

>>174383524
yes we call them the whales and they are our saints; the legendarily bad with money who made the game possible for all us base-pledgers who get to play the game for a normal amount of money thanks to their generosity with their kids' college funds.

>>174383736
>so this thread is just infested with goons?
4 posts in to the thread and nobody has mentioned framerate. I wonder if you're shitposting or if it's copypasta?

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>>174384062
>this is the first ever star citizen general

>>174383736
>how come nobody talks about this stuff? it's actually fun to play now.
Because I already got 5 other FPS that run well, are fleshed out and fun to play, and I'm not playing them. Why would I give a rat's ass about Star Marine?

>>174384138
Just admit you made a mistake, and link the thread you are talking about.

>>174382165
Don't know why anyone deletes anything from Twitch acrhives, but it's gone from his Twitch vod list, and there's no youtube upload either.
fag

>>174384602
I did, in the OP. it should be obvious I was talking about the general discussion since 2.6.2.
>4 posters itt
>it's just me and 3 people shitting out weak bait

>>174384748
No, you posted "this thread" in a new thread containing 3 unrelated replies. Your mistake.

>that last thread
Would have been much more clear.

>>174384882
are you so chan illiterate you can't tell that 'this thread' can refer to a general, where the specific thread number is completely irrelevant?

>>174385079
"This thread" is not "Any one of the general chain of threads about Star Citizen".

Admit you made a mistake and we can move on.

>the powerful autism already itt
you know it's the hexaphobe

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>>174387739

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>>174387739
do you know where you are?

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I've got a Cutlass Blue and a Polaris. I wish I could fit the Cutlass into the Polaris but that's not looking possible. Not like I could afford to crew the Corvette anyway.

Also enough with the pissing contest fags nobody cares.

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>sandro sammarco still breathes the earth's air

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>no dragonfly until 3.0
what the fuck. it's done. they use it in demos all the time. just gibe.

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>>174388870
>TFW bought an upgrade from my LTI dragonfly to MM at the sale.
>got autistically excited and applied the upgrade for no reason so only have a jpeg now

feels bad man.

if 3.0 isn't stable 60 fps I'm going to cry

>>174388870
requires object containers to even be useful

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>>174391669
it's pretty decently stable now, my fps counter was reading 50-70 earlier today in SM

I'm a third of the way to Colonia after approximately 2 hours and 30 minutes of effective flying. I've lost the will to live, but not because of the game. It's been better than I feared. Using the neutron boosts kinda keeps it from becoming TOO repetitive.

>>174392578
PU dawg
no one cares about SM/AC

>>174392591
I have trouble doing more than 20 jumps in one sitting without getting unreasonably bored.

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>>174392591
>>174393301
same here, it's stil tedious as fuck, even with the explodata buff.

scanned a system worth 3 million credits

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>>174392578

>tactical
>walking right into friendly fire

Can you waifu anyone in this game?

>>174396278

In Elite, sure. There's plenty of player groups full of smug roleplaying cunts, all you have to do is felate their ego enough and there you have it.

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Rate my ship name /scg/edg/!

Do you like the reference?

I'm not gonna pay for a nameplate

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>>174397054
Who needs eyes when we have the almighty VISION guiding us?

I give it doomedtoeternalsuffering/10

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I was thinking of upgrading my freelancer into either a DUR or MAX.
Would my dragonfly still fit in the DUR? Also which of the 3 is objectively better looking?

>>174397913
Hard to say when every Freelancer except the base model still uses the ugly-ass Mexican outsourcing model. Also according to the Benosphere even the MIS will fit a Dragonfly, so you should be good.
Don't believe his lies

>>174397913
Yes the dragonfly ill fit in the DUR, it's bay is only slightly smaller and the Dragonfly takes only a small part of it.

>>174388870
Boy I'd sure love that charging handle slapping me in the face every time I take a shot. Especially in burst.
Who makes these?

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After many weeks of dithering I made up my mind and traded the bucc back in for a prospector.

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>>174398518
>>174398518
The exterior is being remodeled at least, so I might hold off on the upgrade until I can see how it looks post fix.

Whats another ship 'moderately' priced that will fit a dragonfly for 3.0 exploration shenanigans?

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>>174398991
Cutlass black confirmed to carry a Dfly, easily flyable solo and about to get a major overhaul/facelift with 3.. $100 and probably gonna jump in value with the rework.

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>>174398991
>>174399194
More images from a recent ATV

https://imgur.com/a/nzf7D

>>174399194
Bummed because I can't upgrade to it, have to melt package etc to test it out - freelancer is worth $10 more.
Is there any way to find a list of ships that would fit certain cargo?
Like I wonder if you could jam a dragonfly in an avenger titan. Would be nice if there was a way to pre-load in the dragonfly into the ship - such as using the ship customisation in AC.

If I had started immediately after getting home from work I could have done it in one sitting. Oh well.

>>174399194
Also not sure if anybody else has the same bug, but if you get a Hornet package and upgrade it to a base freelancer (no cost), you get both ships. Think I might lose it if I melt to get a cutlass.
It's pretty good having $200~ worth of ships to play around with.

>>174399886
>Is there any way to find a list of ships that would fit certain cargo?

Maybe when we know anything about cargo mechanics there will be.

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>>174399936

But I am dead tired, as the lack of an image proves.

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>>174397913
All the way up to the MIS, which ought to have to most crowded cargo bay, can fit at least a folded-up Dragonfly.

Then again
>Ben
>telling truths

Anyone else here do PVP in ED?

>>174401547
What are you, some kind of griefing psychopath?

>>174402497
Get off 4chan, dad, or I'm telling mom about that NSFW folder on your computer.

>experience a bug in elite dangerous
>head over to customer support to see what's up
>they direct me bug report thread on official forums
>no discussion on this particular bug
>have to register fo an account to make a new thread and report the bug
>new forum members aren't allowed to make new threads

Fuck, mate. This game even makes you grind rep just to get technical support.

>>174403128
I don't think it's intentional, FDad are just totally incompetent morons. Blame the early-onset dementia.

>>174388637
He is the source of all cancer.

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>>174397054
>not paying for name plate

Why don't you want to support the devs by buying something that should have been there by default? its not like they didn't charge you full price for a bunch of half assed updates nobody asked for.

Oh wait, they did.

badgoyim/10

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Carrackfags BTFO

>>174384138
Hi Fiddly

>>174406949

Not much use for an exploration ship before there's exploration to be had. There's probably not much to find in a system owned by Megacorporations that's crawling with private security firms.

>>174402847
You're right! I made up the fact that murder is a sever crime in the game but not treated as one by the system! How silly of me to think I was supposed to get the impression murder was punishable.

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>>174399526
why did they have to put in those shit elevators?

>>174408824
>getting this upset over pixels
In EVE, faggots like you don't last a week.

Has it been mentioned that the Diamondback Scout is a Good And Fun Ship?

Also, the clipper has one of the better weapons in the game: Class 5 Fixed Kinetic Hardpoint.

Right on the nose. :black101:

>>174398690
Are you dumb?

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>>174382571
Ok me and my friend have found a rather unique bug with the ED update.

For whatever reason he can not invite me to crew as I am listed as 'not in Horizons', despite being in it. What is more bizarre is I can invite him to my crew and join his crew via the 'find a ship' function. Whats more it is only his and my account that is experiencing this, other friends have no issues.

Currently waiting on my support ticket but wondering if anyone else has had a similar issue since Commanders hit.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/324796-THE-FORMIDINE-RIFT-MYSTERY-(Part-4)?p=5404118&viewfull=1#post5404118

gg

>>174412629
Didn't read it all but wasn't Ultima online a complete and utter failure?

Star Citizen would have been better if it was primarily offline, with a coop option and a drop in/out option for invaders.

Doing an MMO was a mistake.

>>174383524
>mfw real people, in my reality on this plane of existence in the cosmos, pay $10,000 in .jpgs
>so i can spend $35

can't really escape the fact that the game is funded by people who must actually be mentally ill somehow, but $150million in $35-45 starter packs was not going to happen.

it's like someone paying for 95% of your luxurious tropical island paradise vacation long as you pay for dinner one night

>>174413564
>must actually be mentally ill somehow

Or they're just capable of spending that money and thats how they want to spend it.

>>174413615
hey man whatever the reason is for them spending thousands of dollars, I'm not the one spending it, and i'm reaping full benefits, forever

>>174413693
I didn't, but even if I did, wouldn't be any of your business.

Is horizons a must-have if I don't care for the planetary landings? Wanna start playing again but don't have the dosh for horizons

>>174414254
Its massively P2W

>>174414351
Huh? As in people who got horizons have a huge advantage over vanilla elite players?

>>174414647
People who have bought Horizons and NPCs who all benefit from stuff locked behind buying Horizons.

You will be incapable of competing with decked out players or top end NPCs. Its no different than not buying the latest WoW expac

>>174414724
but say I start playing standard now and get horizons in like a month? is that OK?

>>174414957
Can do whatever you want anon, I'm just saying that you have a decent chance of encountering people and NPCs that will one-shot you.

and I think E:D is bad

>>174396060
>tactical
>everyone in the server appears as a dot on the minimap

:^)

>>174416276
dakka, supposedly

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>>174416276
>anvil hurricane

>>174416276
it also seems to be better suited for atmospheric flight than some other models

>>174416276
Back to Spectrum with you!

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>>174416276
Faster, more guns, probably cheaper than all those ships.

Also looks better.

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>>174416472
>3DingDongs

>>174416601
I think everything is expected to VtoL everywhere.

>Idris is just a straight line with one ship in front of the other
>Javelin is a lift

It's probably easier than having to worry about taxing something. Then it just begs to wonder if these ships don't even need run ways, why not just bays where ships are dropped from the carrier like in Starlancer.

>>174416601
the runways on carriers are ther purely for the novelty of having a space runway, theres nothing in this game that isnt VTOL

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Be thankful that CIG and FDad aren't as bad at making spaceship models as CCP used to be.

>tfw they haven't finished and there are still a lot of really, stupidly ugly Caldari ships still flying around

>>174416891
That's kinda neat if you can actually sneak into a carrier and sabotage all the fighters.

>>174416276
possibly quad S4 guns on something that isnt starfarer sized

assuming those quad s2s are s4 mounts

dont think it's going to server much of a purpose tho, can't argue with more variety tho, not like this thing took them long to cobble together out of a hornet and a gladiator

>>174416891
so it sits there on the fake novelty runway as working ships vtol over and around it?

I mean generally if it's broken it's probably not going to end up on that staging area, theres a process called preventative checks and maintenance that ideally would keep the ship from leaving it's storage spot until flight ready

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>>174417031
WOW...

So this is the work...

of a fucking godly design team...

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>tfw uninstalled elite

>>174416840
Paint the right thing red and you got a Brotherhood of NOD hover tank

>>174417428
That looks like garbage.

>>174417509
I didn't say SC was good.

I said that Dust514 shit was garbage. Because it is.

>>174417591
By that logic every bullpup is deadly

>>174417354
Jesus that's just terrible

>>174417591
There are quite a few problems with that design, and you chose to criticize it based on "something goes wrong? lmao
>>174417664
Why don't you just keep posting generic trash until we're all convinced that you're "le art connoisseur"?

>>174417786
>Ballistic rounds don't explode for no reason

Neither do batteries.

> like any any energy generator or storage container

So like a brass case full of Nitrocellulose you dumb fuck?

A squib will still explode your rifle all the same.

>>174417786
Please tell us all about your expertise on technology from the 2900s.

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>>174417031
Whoa, she even looks like she might be attractive.

>>174417898
>EvE autist is actually hexagon poster

It all makes sense now

>>174417898
And apparently, CCPniggers who heard the word "art direction" once somewhere and now think this>>174417354 looks good.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/345377-What-s-the-real-percentage-of-Black-people-that-play-the-game-What-s-your-experience-like

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>Praising Dust514's design

Well someone's mentally challenged!

>>174418020
So you think that happened for no reason?

Want a long list of pictures of rifle KBs?

>>174418020
Yeah I too remember that time when the US fleet quantum jumped towards Japan after Pearl Harbor, and soldiers wearing full body armor that could deflect rounds storming Normandy, and all those cyborg WW2 vets with their advanced limb replacements.
SC tech is literally WW2 tech you guys

>>174418127
I'm already praising CCP as hard as I can but Dust ain't getting any less dead

>>174418387
Whats political about my post, anon?

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>>174418315
AYOOOO
*stops swinging from wing of your ship*
HOL' UP
*steals helmet*
u be sayin
*steals dragonfly*
we sum finna
*steals gun*
space explorers n shit?

>>174413438
Are you fucking kidding it was one of the most successful MMO of all time before WoW

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>>174418582

>>174416472
I REMEMBER IT HAHA WHAT NOW

>>174418267
>>174418315
Where would Indians poo in space?

>>174417786
fantasy scifi technology from 930 years in the future of human civilization - literal FTL travel, gravity generation, infinite hydrogen fuel etc

>humanity still struggling to design a short-life battery that will not explode

>>174420321
There are fucking cyborg prostheses, people putting technology on, and probably inside, their bodies, and this fucking retard argues about exploding batteries.

>>174417509
>believable scifi rifle that is 75% copypasted from a G36, no frills, all function

>>174417664
>"I have never held a rifle but heres this rediculous design that proves I put zero thought into how any of this would happen in reality"

>>174420470
Just like FTL, the point was the world/lore

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Opinions and discussion on the gameplay behind this ship / info running?

I think for the herald it will involve
>fly at some guys hull E
>scan the fuck out of it before his escorts can find you
>acquire "data" as cargo

or
>"hello, fellow non NPC player, i have critical intel that needs to go from here to there, are you UP TO THE TASK?!"
>fuck yeah you are, herald owner
>1500 UEC added to account

and hopefully they flesh out the ability to "beam" data over to another larger ship for storage as cargo. in the end I think it should be a slightly less profitable, vastly safer and reliable way to grind money if the game is ever "run thing from here to there" simulator for any amount of time

>>174419046
Designated shitting ships

>prowler

>>174423145
gonna have to hang on to my herald til they figure out what the fuck it's going to be, but just like the Prowler It involves them changing and creating entire new core gameplay systems just for one special snowflake ship, and it's never going to happen.

I'd like it to be an enjoyable ship to use but unless I can fly up to some dickweed's carrack, hack his shit, and steal his last 5 hours of data from mapping a system, I don't see any way they're making dynamic content for this specific, 1-ship profession

>>174422807
>>174423145
You will also eventually sell mining claim data, jump point data, and salvage data. Since the Herald is supposed to carry a lot of data, you will probably more of a portable clearing house for 315p and Prospector data where you buy the local info for cheap and sell it at the main TDD for a profit. All this is a long fucking way away, ofc.

>>174423656
At this ratr that system will be online by 2022

assumimg they can keep milking their cultists

>>174424259
That sounds easy enough, and I'm sure some org will try to do exactly that. All CIG has to do is require the data to go through TDD before you can generate a mission for it. You could hand over claims to Prospectors in your org directly, but there will be shitloads of non org players too, and you may wind up shooting yourself in the face by not selling it, even if it's an internal sale in your org.

CR said he had no illusions about in game voip very early on. We will see if they design the gameplay with this in mind or not.

>>174424421
This is the make or break stretch here. We will know in a little over 2 months what the real deal is. We either get 3.0 with SM framerate and this game takes the fuck off, or 3.0 is an unplayable slideshow and lands like a dud.

>>174424259
The whole idea behind devoting so much time to spectrum was to make an in-game alternative to discord that was good enough for players to WANT to use it

Whether CIG can pull it off remains to be seen

>>174424986
>you may wind up shooting yourself in the face
I probably meant foot. You shoot yourself in the foot, shoot other people in the face. They should teach this in english class.

Are the AtVs going to get better now that all the secrecy about the schedule is out of the way, or has CIG blown their load already?

>Cool new 3.0 game feature
or
>Cutlass and Aurora sneak peek.

>>174423438
cancer

>>174424986
> or 3.0 is an unplayable slideshow and lands like a dud.

What is an unplayable slideshow? Because I can see them releasing something that runs as 24fps on 980ti/1080 but I don't know that will kill it.

Even the dads are starting to realize how much of a walking, talking lump of fucking cancer Samarco is. They're too late, but it's happening.

>>174426494

This, boring S42 polish stuff.
>>174428790

But also I don't think we should see anything 'new', progress updates for 3.0 features sure, but that schedule probably serves as a content lock for the next few months.

LONDON (Alliance News) - Video game creator Frontier Developments PLC said Wednesday that profit for its recent financial year will be ahead of expectations after strong Christmas and Easter sales last year.

Frontier said that it had experienced "strong sales" over November, December and the Easter weekend in 2016 and that its two franchises, Elite Dangerous and Planet Coaster, had been helped by the company adding content, updates, and extensions to the games.

The company now expects revenue for the financial year that ended March 31 to have been GBP36 million, a 68% year-on-year increase. Frontier also expects to achieve an operating profit margin in the new financial year of 15% to 20%, compared to 6% in the recent one.

Frontier Chief Executive David Braben said he expects further revenue growth in the future when its third franchise is released in 2018. It said the game is based on a Hollywood movie of "global renown" but didn't name the movie.

He added: "The launch of Planet Coaster has driven a step-up in our financial performance, and we now have two strong franchises in the market following our successful transition to self-publishing."

Frontier will release its full audited results in September. Shares were up 13% to 345.00 pence on Wednesday.

is SQ42 coming out any time this century?

>powerplay completely broken again

I'm fucking crying. I can't believe people still support this game.

>>174430763
Broken how? Its only 1 more day left until I can get my APAs.

>>174403128
>>174403228
Don't they have an actual bug tracker/tech support system that isn't the forum? I'm sure they do. I've used it before.

>>174431050

Expansions and voucher rewards aren't being calculated, from what I can see, some powers are in turmoil when they shouldn't be. It only really matters if you're a Powerplay nerd, you should be fine if you're just in it for modules. It's just a shame, I really wanted to do Powerplay when it first released but fuck putting up with this shit.

>>174418813
To be fair it was basically the only game in town at the time

>>174431292
>>174431292
>>174431050
Why are you even participating in power play?

>>174432154
Sweet plasma.

>>174403128
You have to be Elite on forums for the dev team even read your thread

>>174427706
Yes, and?

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>>174382571
post some more of these car/ship comparisons

>>174416840
fuck you, asymmetry whacko designs were LEGENDARY

how do i play for free?

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>>174437168
>That's not the word I'm familiar with.
>Last Free Fly was literally 5 days ago and ended yesterday
>Happen with reasonable regularity

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Think of the 150 people who will lose their jobs after the game is released because they're no longer needed or able to be paid for with the lack of ship sales.

>>174429232
I thought F42 was in Manchester.

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interesting question from last thread:
>>174375708
>How long do you think a capital ship should take for 1 person to obtain once the game has launched? Game hours please.
If you bought a LTI : 0 Planck time
If you start from scratch and rush for an Endeavor or barebone Idris (assuming you know all the money tricks) +selling all your earlier ship until you get it, I would ask for 50hours (because that's a game, not daddy job)
If you play normally, relax, discover the universe, keep your favorite ships I would hope for 300h
Then you want better equipment, add 50h-100h depending on the features to overclock stuffs

However the salient balance mechanic shouldn't be the price, Eve Online demonstrated that org will minmax it into oblivion. No matter how high you put the price with the existence of LTI / insurance it would just crown the whales emperors.

If I have to guess a mechanic to keep Cap balanced, I see a mix between spreading them in instance and making sure they have a specific role (slow as fuck, can't defend against too many fighter, can't land everywhere).

We want the org to willingly field as few Cap as they need (especially if they need to repair/restock those themselves in empty system) and solo player to depend on infrastructure/quest to keep theirs running.
Last, CIG said Bengal class will be unique non-buyable, and we can hope for other unique ship they haven't shown yet. Those are the one worth defending, and with the guns they'd pack I HOPE for Idris and Javelin to be wasted by the dozens just to kill/capture one (that's how you'd prune the number)

please rate my fantasy

>>174440257
It was already big, any larger and its Bengal territory

>>174438430
>Think of the 150 people who will lose their jobs

That's what happens at the end of development for almost all videogames.

Industry standard is to let go of over 60% of your staff at project completion. This is usually artists, testers, admin and so on.

>>174440806
Point of the Idris upsizing was SQ42 not having enough internal spaces

no such problem here

http://imgur.com/gallery/4OIcG

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>>174441053
im retard butt y do u need aircraft catapults in spess

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Alright lads. I want to fly to Sagittarius A and then scan all the shit on the way back. Is this a good layout for this job? I'm not sure about the large hardpoint, but I don't want to be completely unarmed. Should I ditch it? Any suggestions or advice for this trip?

waa.ai . j5YM

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>>174417354

>>174441496
Speedy launch out of a vulnerable funnel exit so your enemy can't simply camp it

Rule of cool, of course

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>>174441557
CLIMB MOUNT NARODNAIA

i did it in a 27ly asp man you can find your way there in this day and age :3

pic unrelated to that earlier excursion she was pulling in the forties. the moment you feel the slightest onset of space madness/boredom/disenchantment with exploration immediately self destruct back to the bubble unless you want to make the money which you apparently can now with exploration

>>174440808
BUT IS IT RIGHT?

>>174440257
Last I heard it's not going to be in episode 1 so it's pretty much mothballed.

Maybe my memory is off since there's too much to remember about this shit.

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>>174441843
So it's all good then? Time to piece together my new steed and fly away forever™.

>>174440014
>Eve Online demonstrated that org will minmax it into oblivion. No matter how high you put the price with the existence of LTI / insurance it would just crown the whales emperors.
goons have hundreds of supercapitals

they don't actually USE them

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reposting fun

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>>174433757

>>174444140
Stupidest analogies

>>174444140
This is retarded.

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>>174442965
That's the point, everybody will stockpile capital ship except the unique one, so you want them to field all of those in balanced number, not just spam Polaris

>>174440014
EvE is so different it hurts me every time they're compared

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bodysuits when?

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>>174446595
>mfw ED managed to make skin tight bodysuits unsexy

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>>174446714
Vanu was not with them, and so they faltered.

>>174446714
ED managed to make everything they touched worse.

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>>174446595
Just so you know /m/ is very receptive to pilot suit thread, most will be anime of course

>>174446941
It almost feels like you are here sorely to get angry and to spread it as far as you can. Does that job pays well?

I honestly do not get it.

Yes, the game could be better a bunch of times, it has some severe design flaws as well some weird choices and the implementation is sometimes quite clunky, but that does not entitle you to come here and force your, apparently superior point of view, in all of us and expect that, we somewhat, agree blindly. Different would be if the point came across in a polite, progressive way with an actual argument than just "I WANT".

I do not get it.

>>174449012
Learn to use commas shortly before killing yourself

>>174444140
good
but the first 3 need guns on them

>>174450790
>good

no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0a37ivWgtI

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4eRl4

>>174450973
pretty accurate desu

>>174452285
No, it isn't, and these pointless analogies need to stop

They're not as bad as /v/ food ones, but they're getting there. Ships aren't cars.

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I just want blue alien waifus.

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>star citizen ship design

>>174452438
>being this butthurt

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>https://twitter.com/amosolov/status/854780709654982657

HAPPENING

>>174446714
>"Hey Sandro, lets give everyone a paunch"
>"Yes, but only if you also give the women saggy breasts and mashed potato thighs."

>>174457824
the male model is by far the worst IMO because it's literally a lazy dad body, skinny, but fat at the same time

>>174457726
finally

From anyone but fdev, I would expect a feature named "holo-me" to be something where an avatar is generated by uploading a selfie of yourself.

>>174457726
FUCK YES
BEST SPACE GAME

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>>174457726
>impending Starsector release

>>174440014
>rate my fantasy

fantasy/fantasy

We just don't know. I don't think CIG knows either.

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>>174440607
Wasn't it pretty much as long as the Bengal anyway when the asset got leaked in 2015? The Bengal is just thicker because it's a Battlecarrier.

>>174461784
Smaller beam and only one deck, but yeah similar length.

Though I think the Bengal probably changed a little too.

>>174461784
Does anyone else dislike the look of "organic" looking space ships? They just look weird to me

>>174462886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0T3KLnL9uY
The whole thing looks like a hollywood ayylium ship with that metal texture and red LEDs out the ass.

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>>174440257
>>174440607

>Support Carrier?
>We meant Super Carrier.

Are they ever gonna fix servers limiting client fps or is that a staple of Kris Roberts Game Design?

>>174463592
hownewru

>>174462886
yeah and it also makes it harder to believe the scale

usually spaceships in scifi are modelled after big things like buildings and sea ships so it's easier to judge them as big

spaceship that looks like a fish, well it just looks like a fish floating in space

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>>174463503
>Corvette becomes another Frigate

>>174456447
Theres not gonna be any waifu tier aliens in SC m9. They're all way too inhuman. No asari, no draenei.

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>>174468760
>No Belves
>No Miqo'te
>No Pandas
>No Draenei
>No Au'ra

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>>174461784
>Tfw Folded Hull E is as big as an idris, Unfolded amost as big as a javelin.

Truly best ship. I really hope the tease about adding shield modules and gun blisters actually happens. Would be toppest kek to beat the shit out of pirates with a no cargo all pew pew Q-ship.

>>174468760
You underestimate the furs and scalies

>>174469107
What tease?

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>>174469824
Don't forget the xenophiles. The more alien the better I say.

Can an Adder be useful in combat? Or would a sidewinder be better?

>>174463664

I backed two years ago but I don't follow development and rarely play. Sometimes I'll play when I get a PTU invite but it's still garbage FPS so "playing" means get in my shitty grasshopper, fly for five minutes at 20fps then uninstall.

>>174457726
>>174460349
wat's star sector

>>174472036
So forget about everything for another 6 months and we'll see

>>174470943
A dadder is better armed and protected than a sidewinder and has similar maneuverability.

elite dangerous ships all look like geometrical shapes

at least star citizen has some diversity. yes there are a lot of planes but then there are ships such as the carrack, orion, reclaimer and crucible

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>>174474895
Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens

>>174474895
>geometrical shapes

EVERYTHING looks like one or several geometrical shapes, fucknugget

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>>174474895
Spotted the faggot who's only ever seen a Cobra

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>>174469932
It's just been offhanded a few times by various devs that the Hull series will be able to equip cargo container form factor addons with additional shield gens, remote turrets, repair/damage control equipment and perhaps even landing pads/rearm/refuel stations for smaller escort ships. Basically have the option to replace some of the cargo legos with utility or even combat legos.

I know one of the people who mentioned it was ben, so that kind puts it in the "bullshit pipe dream" category, but the Hull E description specifically mentions the idea of Hulls be repurposed for more combat capable roles. It's a small part of why I bought one, the idea of a "build your own space hulk" ship appeals to me a great deal.

If that actually pans out the larger hulls will certainly end up getting turned into junkyard cap ships. Shitty ones for sure, but the sheer size of them would make them dangerous to smaller pirate gangs or used by those same pirate gangs as mother ships if they can't afford a proper flagship.

>>174476306
that's not going to happen and you should feel bad for believing such an obvious lie.

>>174475918
And I thought SC ships had a bad case of extraneous non functional wings.

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>>174475918
The Dolphin is my personal comfort device of choice. Small enough to go anywhere, but discreet and sleek like the bigger model.

>>174476653
Looks like some shit from the jetsons

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>Don't call us, we'll call you.
fucking clowns

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Will they be in 3.0?

>>174479595
>cylinders in cylinders
super inefficient use of volume, senpai

>>174479856
Indeed.
It should be square missiles, in square launchers.

>>174480482
triangle dawg. nature's perfect shape.

>>174480643
Triangles are nice and all, but squares can load more devastating filler.

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>>174480482
>>174480643
>>174480924
you are like baby
watch this

>>174480924
A combination of triangle and 5 pointed star shapes could be very efficient and stylish, don't you agree?

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>>174481049
>all that wasted space.

>>174480482
>>174481049
>>174481094
>>174481478

how about a triangular pod with square tubes and round missiles?

>>174481550
No, no, no. You have to alternate shapes every other line, then randomize it from that. Hearts, moons, diamonds, horseshoes(with heat seeking heads), triangles, all of it. You get a little wasted space, but it's spread around and your enemy will never guess which shape it is, or whether it has heat seeking.

>>174481934
Perhaps an MRV-type large sized missile that splits into these multi-shaped ordinance, just to take out the middle man.

>>174482946
hey maybe we could make like a fractal rocketpod, which starts out as one giant pocket powered rocketpod, and you launch the whole thing but as it flies keeps launching smaller rocketpowered rocketpods which then themselves launch smaller rocket powered rocketpods ad infinitum.

>>174483315
CIG pls, hire this anon ^^^^

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>>174481550
why not a beam cannon/booster combo pack?

>>174483315
even better, make those rocketpods shoot rocketpods out that had laser cannons on them so it would shoot infinite laser cannon shooting rocketpods from out of rocketpods that shoot laser cannons. Fuck those goddamn vandull fuckers.

>>174476543

In-lore those are for smoother landings on atmospheric planets, since these are passenger liners and nobody likes turbulence. In-game though you can't even land on planets with atmospheres yet.

They'll probably become required in a later season if you want to take passenger missions into atmosphere without pissing your passengers off.

When can I start killing people in ED?

>>174485169
Has anyone challenged you in open, or have you challenged them? You do know how to initiate honorable combat, right?

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>>174484821

>>174485268
Haven't actually fought anyone yet, I meant more like fucking with people in low sec systems.

>>174485169
Hook up with them via MC then fire at the police.

Extra lulz use up all their SCBs as well.

Sandro: "But we have to accept that even with the most basic option (shooting turrets), a player who wants to misbehave still can. They could open fire at an invalid target, potentially inviting ship destruction. It has similarities to being attacked out of the blue by wingmen."

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>>174418515
>space explorers n shit?

u be sayin
*steals dragonfly*
we sum finna
*steals gun*
star cituzens n shit?

>>174484939
I'm pretty confident that they're actually there to make it look like a genetically damaged whale, because someoneeveryone at Fdev is an autistic dad and thought it would be a funny to make the fat slow cruise ship named for a whale look like one too.

>>174485610
It's kinda complicated because long history, blah blah. Basically you type o7 in chat, and if you want to be edgy you can whisper it to a CMDR. This initiates combat. They will usually signal the same back which means battle to the death, for honor.

If they don't o7 you back, they are a punk bitch and deserve to die, so shoot first. Almost always shoot first to win. Some people try to fake not fighting to get you to turn around so they can target your FSD. Don't be fooled, shoot first.

>>174472134
is gaem
make gud
http://fractalsoftworks.com/

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>>174484465
shit like this. shit like this is why I hate japan.

They take an amazing thing like a technical cutaway and they just shit and piss all over it with half baked physically impossible weebery.

At least star wars attempts to to be physically plausible. Center of thrust goes through center of mass, anything else IS WRONG and LEADS TO UNCONTROLLABLE SPINNING.

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>>174472134

Fun as fuck. Go play it.

>arrive in colonia in open mode
>literally no one here

shit
not a single fucking soul
not even a dad

>>174490948

The people who willingly submit themselves to the monotony of traveling all the way out to Colonia never play in Open and are the type of faggots that proudly call themselves carebears. I'm willing to bet that if you switch to Mobius you'll find a lot of people there.

>>174491127

It actually wasn't that bad. Last time I went beyond 5k for an engineer I suicided instead of going back, bored to tears. This time it wasn't so bad. Using neutron boosts helps break up the monotony.

Mobius it is, then. Time to go hang out with some dads.

Anyone else want to help me gank people on Mobius?

>>174487073
Does saving or loading a save still take 5 minutes?

>>174486104
>At least star wars attempts to to be physically plausible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-axav_iQ4w

>>174493147
You should go on a rampage before they can kick you.

>>174495263
That's the plan. I'm going to channel my inner Elliot Rodger, go to a highly populated system, and introduce them to my FDL.

is horizons worth buying?

I haven't touched E:D in months until a few days ago but I felt like I was missing out. I know I missed a sale but g2a has a few sellers around $20. I guess a better question is, do I need it?

Or can I just play the game and not miss out on too much without it? Maybe wait for the next sale

>>174496638
Horizons grants access to Engineers that can pimp out your ships, which is virtually mandatory to counteract increased AI difficulty or if you want any chance whatsoever to compete against other players.

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EL CHEAPO

>>174497286
Well shit.

I'll play a few more hours and decide if it's worth $20~ I guess. I bought ED at $60 initially and then it was on sale a few months later for like $15 so I'm a little skeptical about spending more on the game.

>>174497286
>>174497589
>FSD mod can increase jump range by up to 50%
>literally everyone gets this mod the instant they can because fuck 12LY jump range on combat ships
>also, 60LY Anacondas
>thruster mods can increase top speed AND maneuverability by 30%
>stacks with horizons-only performance-enhanced class 2/3 thrusters for smaller ships
>900m/s racing fit Imperial Eagles
>weapons can get improvements and special effects to fuck over your target

Have any Dads started bitching about our "Galaxy's worst tour guides" racket?

The whole "the mission completes regardless of which beacon you visit" thing is a bug, but enough missions are spawning for each beacon that I could easily just accept missions for a single beacon and still make millions by traveling to the correct beacon. Knowing the Dads, they'd still call that an exploit even if you were ferrying the passengers to the designated beacon.

Exploration-fit DBX now has better jump range than equivalent Asp, and comes within spitting distance of Anaconda. How does this make you feel?

>>174423145
Wasn't some half baked idea for hacking player comm lines talked about until people just said they'd use teamspeak instead?

How long till Elite is finally removed from this general once 3.0 gets underway? Can't wait for their kiddy-version of SC to finally be kicked to the curb.

>>174486104
>japan stuff bad, but star wars good

Confirmed for shit taste.

>>174500440
Weeb shit is shit, star wars is also shit. most star wars ships are vaguely plausible in layout and somrwhat original, most weebshit is real world stuff with shittons of greebles stuck on without any regard for how those greebles would work or how they would effect the feasibility of the design. just "oh its needs X part, ok slap x part on in a completely random place and call it good."

>>174500295
3.0 isn't going to be a version that provides any long term discussion

Its neat and I'm sure we'll enjoy the novelty of landing on a moon the first dozen times, but 3.0 doesn't really add a whole lot of shit that it going to make me want to play it for any longer than I do any other "big" patch. Couple of hours to see all the new stuff and never boot it up again

>>174500893
>without any regard for how those greebles would work or how they would effect the feasibility of the design

have you seen the size of the engines on some of those macross looking motherfucking mechs? stuff embodies the "in thrust we trust" school of aerodynamics.

give it a good enough computer and they'll fly just fine, the f-117 did.

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>todays ATV is about Banu
>tfw xenophile

>>174501553
The day of the rope approaches for you

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>>174500069
Diamondback a cute

>>174500069
>>174501732

ExploAsp
http://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/asp?code=A0p5tdFfliddsnf5------0202--3c0s0iv6432f2i.Iw19gDJZA%3D%3D%3D.Aw18WQ%3D%3D.H4sIAAAAAAAAA2MWesHMwCDSIczA8J%2BF3%2BPL%2F%2F9CK578%2F%2F%2BfTejAg%2F%2F%2F%2BRM%2BANl8%2FBVvgOIggf%2F8SOz%2FDCQDAFGl9lNvAAAA.EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A%3D

ExploDBX
http://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/diamondback_explorer?code=A0p0tdFfldddsdf5---0202--320nv6432f2i.Iw1%2FADGQ.Aw18UA%3D%3D.H4sIAAAAAAAAA2MWesHMwCDSIczA8J%2BFv%2BLN%2F%2F9CK578%2F%2F%2BfTejAAyDFDRECs3mQ2P8ZSAYAd4J6yGoAAAA%3D.EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A%3D

ExploConda
http://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/anaconda?code=A0patiFklndksxf5--------02020202----3h11111104044d-03v42f2i.Iw18WAMOcQ%3D%3D.Aw18ZVA%3D.H4sIAAAAAAAAA2MW6RBmYBB6wczA8J%2BFv%2BLN%2F%2F9CK578%2F%2F%2BfTejAAyAlABECswWR2EJIbGEk9n8GqgAA9P3fWZYAAAA%3D.EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A%3D

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What are the chances >knife melee actually becomes a thing.

>>174502371
throwing weapons and knives confirmed

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>TFW love my retaliator but afriad that its going to remain a $250 useless hangar queen forever.

>>174503085
Its not like it was ever going to be useful before the environment it was made for exists, anon

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is buying dragonfly with $ a bad idea? Because its 40$+ and it seems like it will be really cheap to buy with in game credits, right? Its a hover bike not a real ship.

t. poorfag

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>>174505078
>spending $ on ships without LTI

>>174505594
whats LTI? life time insurance?
dont you get that when you buy a ship by default? LTI is ship + loadout?

>>174505860
They only give you lifetime insurance now with concept sales. For example the first time they unveil a new ship, you have like 1 week or whatever to buy it, then after that it gets 2 months insurance or something like that.

The only way to get LTI on a ship you missed out on is to use a cheaper ship with LTI to upgrade it to the one you want, it keeps the LTI and hangar and any other trinkets that you got with it.

Even on special occasions like anniversary sale or citizencon they don't offer LTI on older ships, just longer periods like 2 years.

>>174505860
LTI isn't offered on any new ships that aren't concept sales.

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>>174506041
>>174506059
k so I bought a ship + game pledge, so when my 6 month insurance ends I lose the ship after it blows up again? or will I get a bare hull back and LTI covers everything?

I'm honestly not sure "buying ship" means now

>>174506983
Yeah it's shit isn't it. It's probably Ben's fault.

The "free" insurance means it doesn't cost you anything to insure your next one when you get blown up.

>spawn LTI ship
>die
>respawn LTI ship (after cooldown is up)
>free
vs
>spawn 2 month insurance ship
>die after 2 months
>respawn your ship (after cooldown is up)
>it costs you credits

Technically, I don't know if it's possible to spawn a ship without insurance then go out in the server and get blown up and lose it forever, they'll probably stop that from happening so people don't whine about losing their investment and so gaming journalists don't BTFO of Chris Roberts.

>>174506983
if you don't keep up with your insurance policy, you lose it all

LTI is just hull insurance that you never have to upkeep

>>174506983
If you bought a ship with LTI, you always have LTI.
If you didn't, you don't have LTI. It'll say on the package.

You'll lose it if you don't insure it in-game with credits. LTI is just like a free version of in-game insurance.

>>174506983
LTI covers the hull and stock equipment. Even if you have LTI, insuring your weapons/components and cargo costs additional credits.

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>>174507194
>>174507226
>>174507247
>>174507523
so I didn't really buy a ship I just bought/ skipped the inital cost of buying it with credits + 6 month insurance

if that the case I'm not buying """""ships"""" from the store ever again. Thanks for explaining it to me anons, I finally understand.

>>174507674
Almost like it explains this on every single store page or something.......

>>174507674
It means it costs you a few thousand credits to insure every time you get it blown up, compared to the (probably) (((millions))) of credits you'd have to spend to buy a new ship.

Even players with LTI have to re-buy their weapons after they get blown up, LTI doesn't cover them.

They should just undo all these terrible decisions since 2012 and fix the game.

>>174507674
stop spending money on the game at all past your game package with a ""ship""" you feel won't be a piece of shit to do a little working your way up with

they don't need your money anymore, if you can't deal with playing the game right now with a cheapo start just sit on it just forget you ever bought it and before before you know it, ingame ship purchases with credits is a thing

theyre literally enforcing diminishing returns on spending real money the longer you wait

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>>174507778
my friend told me if I buy a ship I will "own it" / it's hull and something something about timers. So he tricked me or just doesnt understand need for LTI either.

I'm not mad btw, but it looks like starter package would be enough since I dont really own this Cutlass, maybe I'll melt it and use the $ on some perma stuff

>>174507996
yeah, you missed the ball on that sweet time period where spending more than $45 was worth it

if you missed the $50 LTI upgrade meme from citcon theres literally no reason to spend more than the cheapest starter package on the game anymore. you are actually ill if you currently own ships worth more than $50 without LTI

also just FYI, the insurance doesnt even take effect until the game is fully released. you won't lose your ship after 3/6 months in the alpha

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>buying ships for real money

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>>174509536
best girl

>>174509640
mommy why is that man wearing a dress?

>>174509740
>man
stop or we send you to reeducation camp for transphobic speech ;)

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>>174509536
>>174509640

>>174509976
Gender is a social construct shitlord, you can't misgender people when genders aren't even real

>>174510226
Star Citizen: Why there aren't unisex toilets?

>>174509640
would beat the shit out of this dirty sandnigger in a fist fight
>>174510072

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>>174510292

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Can I take out a merc contract for Messer and genocide xenos and their sympathizers?

>>174510253
Because they are not fucking savages

>meet player in colonia
>he's a russian with poor english skills

why

So continuing from the LTI questions:

I have a game package with a mustang alpha CCU'd to a Cutlass Black, with 3mo Insurance.

Say I bought an LTI dragonfly from the grey market. Is there any way I could get an LTI cutlass without melting the whole package (which was before the game split, and hence cheaper than buying S42+SC separately).

>>174515847
Melt the package, use store credits to rebuy it from the buyback list (no upgrades applied), use remaining store credits to purchase Dragonfly->Cutlass upgrade.

>>174515913
Did not know I could do that! Thanks!

>>174515847
I had it all typed out, but >>174515913 beat me. Melt and rebuy.

>>174515913
Different anon, can you melt stand alone ships? I have a constellation with 6 months of insurance which I'd like to change to an LTI ship.

>>174516036
If there is a button that says "Exchange for Store Credit" on your hangar page, that's what people mean by melting something.

>>174516236
Do you pay VAT a second time? As the exchange to store credits gives you the value minus the VAT?

>>174516439
Fuck, I wouldn't know. No VAT here. Probably expect the worst case?

>>174516439
>>174516501

Bong here.

If you pay only in store credit, you pay no VAT.

If you partially pay in store credit, VAT only applies to the extra cash you throw in.

>>174516547
Thank you fellow bong!

>>174516439
>the exchange to store credits gives you the value minus the VAT
Yes.
Let's say I buy a Cutlass right now, costs me $119. If I melted it I'd get 100 store credits.
If you apply store credits to a purchase >>174516547 happens.

>>174516589
>19%
You're fucking kidding right?

>>174516693
VAT is 20% over here.

>>174516849
Just looked it up. Holy shit. I had no idea there was madness like that. Local sales tax here is like 9%, at a brick and mortar. Paying an extra 20% online would fucking kill me.

Do they calculate VAT on payment details or on IP?

I guess all the grey market undercuts come from people buying in 0-VAT jurisdictions.

>>174517671
I'm 95% sure it's based on your credit card/paypal details.

>>174517671
most things on the grey market are from before the tax on the site, it on their since 2015 2016? and the tax amount is according to where your billingadress is.

>>174517671
>Contemplating tax evasion for spacejpegs

>>174518135
I avoid tax as a matter of principle.

>>174440014
300 hours seems puny for what is virtually the highest achievable end game player owned item. I spent 6,000 hours in runescape before i was able to afford my first party hat(from level 3 to level 120sh, started in 2006 and got a phat in 2010)
300 hours may be good if you play 1-2 hours a day but that means hardcore players will get bored quickly and the game will have a poor progression life.

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for what possible fucking reason are you not allowed to use an SRV in multicrew?

>>174522258
Programming p2p multi-player is hard

>>174522258

Because reasons, who fucking knows. Multicrew is shit, just be in a wing and have your friend in his own ship get on his SRV and dismiss his ship. It's incredibly fun to have one on an SRV and the other doing straffing runs on a base, too bad there's no missions or anything that enhance the experience.

>>174440014
I think you also need to remember that a capship probably won't be designed for single player ownership.

It's something that a lot of org resources will go in to.

>>174515074
Пoчeмy бы и нeт.

>>174495076

Late as fuck, sorry I went to sleep after I posted that weebum. If your save is taking 5 minutes, then you probably have a fuckton of mods and need to up the amount of memory that java is allowed to use for the game. Look it up, there's guides on how to do it in the game forums, pretty simple. I have 21 active mods and saving takes about 5 seconds.