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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 12th:
238 – Gordian II loses the Battle of Carthage against the Numidian forces loyal to Maximinus Thrax and is killed. Gordian I, his father, commits suicide.
1204 – The Crusaders of the Fourth Crusade breach the walls of Constantinople and enter the city, which they completely occupy the following day.
1877 – The United Kingdom annexes the Transvaal.
1910 – SMS Zrínyi, one of the last pre-dreadnought battleships built by the Austro-Hungarian Navy, is launched.
1917 – World War I: Canadian forces successfully complete the taking of Vimy Ridge from the Germans.
1927 – Shanghai massacre of 1927: Chiang Kai-shek orders the Communist Party of China members executed in Shanghai, ending the First United Front.


>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>173763207
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>173827902
BASED
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So in HPM, how the hell do you "pick a tech school"? Nothing ever happens
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>>173827902
The average GSG player
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>>173828172
>Is Africa or the caribbean a better plave to raise your kids
How is this even a question?
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http://steamcommunity.com/stats/203770/achievements

>only 13.5 percent of all the people who own CK2 ever managed to get married
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>>173811576
>>173812294
P L E A S E A N S W E R
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>>173827902
>>173828340
Egypt or Cuba, helped each other in the 6 day war or whatever it was
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>>173828445
more like only 13.5 percent of the people who own CK2 actually play ironman mode.
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>>173828508
reminder that mitsuhide did nothing wrong
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>>173828448
Bohtan can change their religion to Yazidi IIRC, one of the kurdish minors definitively can
Check the decisions tab
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guys, what's the recommended template and support units for tactical divisions like marines and parachutes?
also,
what were your best tactical offense, with naval or aerial invasions
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>>173828586
>ironman mode

Oh yeah, fuck, I forgot about that.
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It sure feels good being in the top 0.1% of players
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>>173828895
wow I sure would love to know what fucking game your playing.
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Mahmûd, you're a fucking idiot
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>>173828992
>not being 0.0% master race
kys lad.
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tfw my catholic boer South-All Africa with Germaniums as supported, Genocide of all non-whites, and modified immigration and assimilation with pop growth boost got deleted and I have to fix it all over again
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>>173829004
>>173828895
oh yeah hoi4
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>>173828604
>20k pops
This should be interesting.
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>Beyond typus 4.0 still has not been updated
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>>173829736
wait for mayo 2.0
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>>173829859
>mayo 2.0
what?
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>>173830090
of course
Mayo and Theft 2.0
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Is there a Finno-Korean Hyperwar mod for HoI4 yet?
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fuck they came back please fucking help me they say mean things to me
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>>173830275
Oh why wait for the new one i thought /gsg/ thought that was a meme mod due to the fact you cant murder redskins
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>>173830474
No

Go make one
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>finally get two decent allies to fight the ottos
>Allied with: France
why god
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>>173830745
franks are turk enablers
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>>173830553
you can murder redskins though

its just done through events now, not a button
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>>173828508

>I must unite the Americas under one flag
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>>173830857
The French in my current Castile game hate the Ottomans. But they both love me.

Also the Reformation kicked off in Austria, that was weird. The 1453 start is unironically the most fun.
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I'm trying to get into Darkest Hour, I've been trying to find some in-depth guides but I haven't found any, I did find a bunch of HoI 2 guides though, and I was thinking

Would it be better to start with HoI 2, play a few times, get the hang of it more or less, and then switch to DH, or just stick with DH?
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>>173831320
Just stick with DH.
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oh yeah, can't move the capital with such dangerous rebels roaming around the country. just imagine the sheer disruption
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Where do I put minimods and hpnnm?
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>>173830745
It's historical. Also with the Ottomans that deep into Europe, why not just give up?
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>>173832368
in hpm
just replace when asked
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Reading a book on the development of the Portuguese empire.

Never played a GSG before.

I have EUIV. Can I make a comfy Portuguese trading empire and massacre Africans?
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>>173832738
Yes but making a comfy spanish trading empire and massacring africans is easier
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>>173832738
>EUIV
Play Vic2 instead
with HPM
>treed
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How do I ensure the germaniums stay klein as france in vic2? Do I have to attack day one with Austria and just grab shit
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>>173833015
You can wait a bit, either Austria or Russia work as allies, you just have to take the West Bank of the Rhine.

But there's always the small chance that Austria manages to pull its shit together and make Prussian Germany the preferred option.
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>>173832835
>>173832850

Thanks lads, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend!

Vasca da Gama time!
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>>173833548
t.
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>>173833015
By giving them Alsace Loraine and not letting them eat Austria.
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>>173827894
And what about Yuri Gagarin?
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WHAT JUST HAPPENED?
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>>173834174
BETTER DED THAN READ
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What's a good comfy nation that can meet a lot of luxury needs. Not the big ones (including Persia)
I really want to try Omaniums with these borders, but despite aesthetics, there's no fucking pops
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>>173834272
Looks like Karloman was dumb enough to get a Shia Court Physician who he let convert him, then was so hated by his vassals that he was forced into hiding, and because he couldn't trust any kuffars, he made his raghead doctor the Designated Regent.
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>>173828596
>killing one of the best things to ever happen to japan over a shitty yo mama joke
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>>173834440
Brunei.
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>>173834440
>Omaniums with these borders
what borders
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>>173833683
Why does Hanover look like a ghost giving the Netherlands the finger?
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>>173834440
>>173834752
Fug lad, I just got a new computer and 4chan keeps telling me there's a failed upload when I try to post pictures.
South yemen+oman+UAE+Bahrain+Qatar+Gwadar+Socotra+Zanzibar
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Hey me laddos, check this out
>>>/sci/8815716
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>>173834984
Looks more like a Jew devouring Oldenburg desu.
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>>173834512
gee anon thats way simpler than i wouldve expected
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What to name the new colony?
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>>173835383
Northern Ireland
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>>173835072
you could probably try conquering east/horn of africa if you want pops, it doesn't brake the aesthetic too much and ethiopia is full of niggers you can use
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>>173835383
New Nova Caledonia/Hibernia/Alba.
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>>173829027
I've had this happen, but then have them come back from the Atlantic, and it still counted.
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>>173829310
W H I T E
H
I
T
E
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>>173835513
>>173835480
The Scottish and the Irish have their own empires in this mod, so I will have to hold off on those names.

I'm going to have to come up with a better naming convention because all the English towns have 'New' versions in the Americas.
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When you play ck2 do you go full autismo with micromanaging and eugenics, or do you just roleplay as your character?
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pls help

so what do I need to do to ensure the warlord era doesn't happen

I'm kind of upset taiping's religion is protestant, it just feels weird if I'm going to be unifying china under that, undermining thousands of years of history.
but I guess it's some syncretic thing anyway.
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>>173836270
I play for power when just playing normally, but when I'm writing an AAR for the forums I always try to roleplay to the best of my abilities
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Playing a muslim in Ck2 and I randomly got like 250 gold in the last year and i have no idea why.

i checked the autosave for the beginning of the year and I had only 30, but i didn't get a prompt or anything.
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Spain is finally a first world democracy with colonies, but something is still wrong. The utter lack of respect every one else treats us with! France and the UK got all the good colonies in Africa even though we wanted some niggers too. Lucky the new king of Spain has a brilliant new plan of naval build up against the UK, we will demand our rightful small island of Malta - or else!
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Did HPM died?
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>>173836270
Latter while I'm small, then former once I have an empire. I don't think I could've gotten a Roman Emperor/descendent of Muhammad/Saoshyant descendent otherwise.
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>>173835383
Trying instead for naming after the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, but I still don't really think I like it.
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Is eu4 at its current state better vanilla or modded
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>>173838006
Vanilla as it just got a huge update and the mods need to be updated.
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>>173838006
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-alOMXrYVZyZ0NHVVVwa0NEUlk

Well there it is.
Knock yourself out.

Someone else upload it to whatever you want for posterity,i will hide it after a day or two.
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>People still unironically play chase the AI army around simulators (Victoria, EU4)

I don't understand how you have fun playing this. It's literally just clicking the opponent's stack over and over since they decided to not make it automatic, and you wait for your nation to grow. That is the gameplay in its entirety. No higher strategy, no play styles, nothing.
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>>173839019
look man there is no other alternative to these sort of games that gives me the same type of high

they suck and they are boring, i agree, but i dont like Total War or 4x, what am i to do?
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>>173839019
What do you play, O Enlightened One?
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>>173837182
Sometimes wealthy nerds die with no heir and you get the money.
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>>173839019
>>173839303
this famalama, what is the game you play so we can make fun of it
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>>173839240
You could play X series and build 6 million factories in space

There is a mod that merges Terran conflict and Albion Prelude
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>>173837389
>we wanted some niggers

Now I've heard everything
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>austria doesn't give a flying fuck
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>>173839303
Europa Universalis 1.

The ONLY Paradox game, as far as I'm concerned.
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>>173839859
Just play the board game at that point tbqh
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>>173839710
Can't make the demand if the target is at war.
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>>173839450
>space

dude i play these games because i can live out my historical fantasies
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>>173840037
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Ageod

Knock yourself out
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>>173840207
>contrained by scenarios

dude im more obsessed with alternate history and demographics

i only play GS games to commit cultural, religious and ethnic genocide, and also colonialism. those are the only things that interest me
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do you lads feel it in the air

what if another world war is right around the corner

isn't it funny though how easily it is to get hyped for this, I want it to happen and it's fun to larp on the internet even though nothing's going to happen

but I mean what if it does though, what if this is finally it, it's inevitable so why not now?
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What do I name it lads?
>Lake Romanov
>Lake Yekaterina
>Lake Pyotr
>Lake Russia
>Lake Moscow
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>>173840526
Romanov
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Wew, space Nazis
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I just want to say I'm absolutely ecstatic. For ages I haven't been able to find any full videos of Ren Rikka, but now I found working account info for Shemale Yum and DLd them all in HD
Feels good
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>>173839440
>>173839240
>>173839303
War in the Pacific with Focus Pacific mod is my favorite
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fug
a-at least lithuania is going bust
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>>173838545
thank senpai
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>>173841196
happy for you
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>>173838545
thank (you) anon
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>>173842134
I hope you are ready for supergross Russia lad.
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October 1864, managed to make Haiti a secondary power at Liquoria 2, but I'm in the USA's sphere.
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Should I tell him to go fuck himself?
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>>173843828
please tell me you did something other than prestige tech spam

some kind of flourishing artistic movement in haiti without pretext doesn't make any sense even if the game lets you do it for free by clicking the tech research button
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How do I git gud as a Christian ruler in CK2?
I always play Norse and Christians just feel slow as fuck.
I like to start small.
Nobody will give me advantageous marriages, fabricating claims takes forever, plots never happen even with 100% plot power
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We should spam /qa/ asking to allow /gsg/ to be on /pol/
It's miles better there than in this autistic memehole
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I-is HPM ded?
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>>173844501
Invite claimants to your realm.
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>>173844521
nobody is stopping you, go ahead
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>>173844521
Any good thread on /pol/ gets deleted.

Meanwhile "are x white" "how can whiteboi compete" "muh genocide" "trump cocksuking general" are flourishing.
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>>173844541
He died fighting in Syria.
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>>173844703
Yea, I was going to post this on the Pol thread before it was nuked.

>Inbreeding done right.

As a note, Fedelmid, the father of Marta, was also the father of the duke Raolf at the top.

Thus - Fedelmid had many children, notably a duke called Raolf, and a daughter named Merta.

Raolf died before he gained the kingdom, so his son, also named Raolf became hid and married his aunt Merta, and had a son name Raolf, who died leaving a daughter named Emilia (who was a dutchess), and a son, Sebastian, who married his cousin Emilia to keep the duchy in the family....
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>>173845357
*Niece emilia
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>>173840994
Newfag,

what game is this?
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>>173844501
Depends on who you play, but build castles in the largest duchy you can. Put your Chancellor and Chaplain on Rome to increase relations with the Pope. Over 50 and you'll be able to beg for money, unless he is greedy. The more relations you have, and the more money he has, the more times you can do it for -25 penalty... but who cares really. They usually don't live long enough to do anything about it, and your relations will be high anyway if you continue to improve them. Use all that money you get to upgrade your castles until you're getting about 20+ a month. From there you should be able to upgrade your troop count and start expanding. Also use the money you get to invite a sweet Chancellor and start fabricating claims.
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>>173845749
the only game not from paradox in the infopic

>>173845357
That's pretty generic playing level.
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>>173844062
Conquered Puerto Rico with yankee and dixie help. I also have a shitload of money.
I'm playing POD, tho.
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>>173844521
/vg/ might be shit, but /pol/ it's an AIDS infested, half rotten, purulent rat filled with shit.
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R8 the eternal space anglos

>>173845749
Distant Worlds with the New Dawn mod
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>>173845979
>the only game not from paradox in the infopic
Thanks -- added to my wishlist. I play enough Aurora 4x that I am sure I will enjoy it.

But it will have to be on sale.
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>1910 – SMS Zrínyi, one of the last pre-dreadnought battleships built by the Austro-Hungarian Navy, is launched.
>launching a pre-dreadnought in 1910
JUST
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>>173845357
Oh man, epic, bro. Can't wait to see your GroBGermanium while you expel the Jews.
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What is the best military Idea?
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>>173847329
not bombing syria
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>>173832559
>give up
NEVER
I'VE BEEN TRAINING AND TRAINING AS HARD AS I COULD
NOW IS THE TIME TO FIGHT THE OTTOMANS OR DIE TRYING

they have 0 manpower for some reason, I hope I get to keep France out of my continent
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>>173847329
administrative
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Is this the thread where stellaris goes?
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>>173847437
kill me
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>>173847451
Administrative is not a military idea.
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>>173847573
>french niger
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All I wanted to do is civilize the country. Why do they oppose me?
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>>173848137
>cropping
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>>173840526
Bogdanoff.
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>>173848137
>vanilla
Honestly japan is just so much better in HPM
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>>173848346
it's not pink though
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>>173848202
Original had a skype popup on the bottom right and a steam popup on the top left.
>>173848346
I haven't played Vicy2 in months. I just want to remember how to win.
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>>173847521
4xciv thread
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>>173849467
W
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>>173849467


>⎛⎝⎠⎞
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How get immigrants?

Playing Texas in HPM and it's 1845 and I haven't gotten a single immigrant, USA, Venezuela, and Ecuador having been getting them all so far, check them and none have any modifiers and I even have better reforms than Venezuela and Ecuador.

Been a while since I played but I remember in earlier versions of HPM I never had any problem getting immigrants right off the bat.
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Why can't you form or release Indochina in vicky 2? HPM even put in non existent colonial nations like turkstan
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>>173847048
It was probably under construction when HMS Dreadnought got lauched.
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>>173850708
Liberalize and Socialize your country.
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After $300 of DLC EU4 is finally playable.
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>>173851948
It wasn't.
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>>173852559
As I said, I have better reforms than 2/3 countries that are getting immigrants.

The US is just barely ahead of me in reforms.
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What Idea that compliment with Religious Idea? I'm playing as Christian Daimyo and obviously I must pick religious idea for maximum deus vult. What other ideas I need to pick after that? I'm thinking Quantity since my country is small and poor but what else?
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Thoughts on this Europe? Everything within the red lines is Axis. The Soviet Union will soon be annexed by Germany, thus why I included them as well. With the exception of Ireland, Portugal, Spain, and Italy, every country in Europe is a German puppet.
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>>173852726
You cannot compare yourself with US. US have lot bonus that give them massive immigrant.
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>>173852691
I guess they were just that poor then lmao
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>>173847048
*blocks your path*
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>>173852817
>it's another fucking groß germanium
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>>173852909
Well sure they always get the lions share, but I've always gotten migrants in past versions as Texas.
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>>173852817
Does MOSLEY run Britain?
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someone give me a fun ck2 campaign idea
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>>173853882
Play from 1066, start as a duke in a well established kingdom (England, Poland, France, Hungary, Scotland, Denmark, etcetera), get the throne of said established nation state and then solely expand through marriage, rather than war for claims.

and fugg mommy >;-DDD
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I play on Linux, and I usually get desyncs every 15-20 years when I play with my Windows friends. However since the release of Mandate, I've descynced within a month of the start date every time we've tried to get a game going.

Has anyone else had a similar issue playing cross-platform? Any suggestions?
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>>173854050
Can you even pirate on Linux?
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>>173854552
I duno I own the base game and my friend hosts with all the DLC.
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>pirating games

But the best part of vidya isn't winning, it's showing everyone online I did. Can I still get achievements if I creamAPI?
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>>173854664
You'll cave and turn Ironman off. Most everyone does.
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>>173854664
>not pirating games
wew
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>But the best part of vidya isn't winning, it's showing everyone online I did. Can I still get achievements if I creamAPI?
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Any word on when the balance patch for CK2 is coming out?
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>>173854782
does anyone ever play mp CK2 here anymore?
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>>173854980
Here? No. Quite a few do with their friends though. MP's like the one time it's considered acceptable, if not outright recommended, to turn on Sunset Invasion.
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I am getting so bullied this game.
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>>173854664
Yes, you can also use Steam Achievement Manager or whatever.

>>173854980
You could try organizing one.
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>>173855510
>England
>not having forts
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>>173855510
Who the fuck is on your side?
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>>173856339
Nobody. Diplomatic relations creates debts and favors. I'm trying to follow our current God-Emperor and constantly win lone wolf style.
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>>173856171
I am not at war with England, so it's not visible, smartass.
>>173856339
Austria, Spain, PLC. Now I also got attacked by Venice and everyone broke the alliances.
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any tips for getting into crusader kings 2? been playing it vanilla becaue i don't have the money to get all the dlc. for some reason crusader kings 2 seems to be the hardest paradox game for me to get into even though i played a lot of EU3 a few years ago.

i always end up fast forwarding the game because i run out of things to do and it just devolves into me waiting for a claim to get fabricated or a character to get assassinated. i tried playing as ireland but that quickly went to shit as soon as i started invading england and scotland. i tried playing a duke in poland but, again, i had nothing to do. i tried playing a king trying to form rus but it was time spent fast forwarding again because i could not invade anyone and i'd constantly get raided by pagans (if i try to invade them they vastly outnumber me). i'm yet to see how the marriage system is useful because for the most part i have never seen it directly benefit me. so how do i enjoy crusader kings 2? am i doomed to hate it because it's not my first paradox grand strategy?
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Does anyone know if you can pirate DLC on a linuxbox?

>>173856509
The only reason I asked is because France shouldn't be able to intervene if he doesn't have a great power on your side.

>>173856606
>Jews
>ever
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>>173856837
Well first off, pirate the DLC if you're playing on windows, it does work with the base game and if you want to be a good goy you can always buy it legit when you have money.
As far as your questions
1. CK2 is a roleplaying game. It's not entirely about blobbing.
2. Marriage is useful for claims. If you marry a princess of Poland, for example, your child will have a weak claim to the throne of Poland. It's also useful for alliances - if you marry your daughter to the Prince of England, the English King will help you out in wars.
3. Like all grand strategy games, you have to set your own goals. There is no "endgame" here.
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Gsg do any of you play vicky 2 online? I was playingg it with a friend recently, and we use hamachii, and the game was going well. We rounded the turn of the century and enter the 1900s and suddenly the game starts crashing every 10 minutes. Fucking insane that we cant seem to finish the game because of this shit. Anyone got any advice on what to do?
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>>173857385
install gentoo
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I want to fix migration. What should be the main push and pull factors?
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*uses AI control in HoI3*
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>put forts
>AI just walks through them
??!?
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>>173856606
Managed to get 2 provinces from Ottomans thabks to based ticking warscore, but it lowered my trust with Poland and Spain to 40. Now that I'm not allied to them, I can't even raise it back even though I have the favors to do so.
Now I have 20k brave serbians against 45k italians.
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Will we ever get a gsg that doesn't have terrible borders by the end of the game?
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>>173831160
>1453
But that's even more railroaded than 1444
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>>173857923
real life has terrible borders though
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>>173830745
>ottoman Columbia
Silk trade invalidates this
>France with ottomans
Historical and one of the reasons I hate the French French
>allying ming not Russia
The Holy Alliance really should get some buffs
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>>173858175
If you want to get into details I'm sucking all the East Indies trade down to Zanzibar. I do agree that Otto AI needs to stop taking exploration or even expansion.

Also Russia is the paper tiger in this game instead of Ming.
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>>173832738
Yes with all dlc, so download that in the OP
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>>173858296
Also I forced them to break an alliance and now they are rivals.
Great, too bad that Persia and Russia are now rivals with Ming.
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what's the best way to have USA formed and then play as them
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>>173837601
He is still living in our hearts, Anon.
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>>173857557
Invade canada and mexico.
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>>173852816
You have looked at the battles between the Chinese and Japanese right?
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No seriously though where the fuck is hpm
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>>173857825
EU4 forts are incredibly convoluted and it's almost impossible to remember how they work in practice in every circumstance. I recommend watching this video to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KqmV_9-bA
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>>173859605
Died choking on his own vomit after Lierally hitler ordered Sarin gas
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https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/170171557/#170250830

Here it is
The last post, from over a month ago
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I'm planning on doing a new-world escape as Granada in 1.20.

Should I colonise Brazil, or should I just use Brazil/the Caribbean as a springboard into the US eastern seaboard?
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>>173860124
>not colonizing New Granada
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>>173860124
I'm planning on doing the Re-Reconquista achieve (conquer Iberia as Granada) and I was going to begin by escaping to India. New World seems difficult because Castile can just war you before you get exploration ideas.
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>>173860391
I did a test game earlier, and while Castille can cause problems, the trick is to get Tlemcen as a rival on day one and conquer their shit with Tunis's help. Castille won't conquer your African holdings straight away. Then you just have to hope they don't colonise that one West African province before you.
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>>173850708
Universal voting and factories
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>>173850708
Also more than 1 state/500k pops will boost your imigrants a lot
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Aight, I am playing Milan in Eu4 on normal difficulty and what bothers me a lot is how easy the AI wins sieges.

It has happened to me several times now that Venice, Genoa or Austria sucessfully sieged 2-3 lvl 2/3 castles while I besiege a single one of theirs, despite having superior numbers, generals, morale and mil tech.

Do I just have bad luck or does the AI cheat sieges on normal? Because this is fucking gamebreaking for me.
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>>173860796
just after I typed this out it happened again, while Im stuck at 48% for several months Venice takes back the castle I besieged with 7% chance after 3 months despite having a decimated stack. I am superior in every way, yet they win sieges in less than half the time needed EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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>>173860554
So escape to North Africa instead? I might as well just conquer all of North Africa west of the Ottomans and then go after Spain when France inevitably declares on them.
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>>173860554
>>173860924
>conquering those north African assholes when they have like 50% increased coring
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>>173860898
You can spend 5 sword mana to make a breech now
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>>173861107
It'll just be like a WC, admin focus and +2/+3 advisor. No biggie.
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>>173861128
Even if I dont own the current DLC?
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>>173861246
No, you need the DLC
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>>173861246
>>173861128
It still costs 50 sword mana to assault, not to mention tens of thousands of manpower/lives. So the ability to do that sooner, while useful, is still limited.
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Goals?
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>>173860124
Carribean
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>>173862509
Form Arabia.

Then have them as a satellite Civilized Nation.
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>>173857825
I think you have put too many forts there.

AI is allowed to move onto a province with fort, but not to move onto a province protected by a fort unless the fort is taken. But you have a fort behind your first fort. I think that's why he is able to move onto the province with the first fort, then onto the province with the other fort.

I think... I'm not certain.
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>>173860554
>>173860554
Also, speaking of that one West African province:

What the hell, Paradox. Where my Institution at?
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KA-CHING
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>>173861341
>50
It's 50 for revolts and 5 to assault
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>>173863635
what's the best route to become civilized?
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Hmmm...
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>>173863760
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>>173862981
>I think you have put too many forts there.
No such thing.
Specially against the Ottomans where their 2-star generals with over 10 fire and shock combined wipe your african stacks in 5 days despite being on par with tech.

Anyways I somehow had wiped that leaderless single army too.
This might be my last war so I'm aiming to retake Antakya.
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>>173863773
Lol what happened to ottomans and to france? And poland?

france eaten by burgundy and spain? Poland eaten by TO? Ottomans eaten by??? Georgia got a bit of a bite but not enough for ottomans to disappear completely from the top 8. Whoever ate ottomans should be on the list, but I don't see anything.
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TIME

rip Amir Kabir you da MVP
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>>173864036
does this apply to other uncivs? The reforms I mean
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>>173864047
Post the normal map mode please.
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Which one?
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>>173856889
>Does anyone know if you can pirate DLC on a linuxbox?
bumping
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>>173864257
Tabriz
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So I started this campaign, and I expected it to be a tricky thing uniting Japan.

But it seems like it's nothing to it, just conquer small provinces like you do in HRE? Or is there a storm waiting for me that I don't know about?
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>>173864156
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>>173864257
Tehran of course. Qom, Isfahan and Shiraz don't have good RGO and Tabriz is too close to Rus and Turk.
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>>173864096
You're so accurate its eerie. France got eaten by Red France, Poland by TO, and Ottomans by Georgia, Genoa, and misc Balkan states.

I was more trying to point out that my 892 total development adjusted by 100% tech cost is some how turning out to be 179. This game is all sorts of fucking broken.
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Do you need to get N&I in HPM to get a establish protectorate CB on Persia?
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>>173864474
>Red France
Huh? Post map please.


As for your great power ranking, I think your tech plays a role. If you are low in tech then your great power total score is gonna be a lot lower than your real development.
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>>173864485
What is N&I?
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>>173863773
Why did you invade Korea that early on
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>>173864647
Nationalism and Imperialism
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>>173864620
England
>>173864474
DELETE THIS
>>173864336
>guys why is the starter nation so hard
I don't know anon
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I fucking hate the trade system in EU4 and how you need to control every node in Africa and India to make any money off colonies in the East Indies.
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>>173864791
You don't have to own so much. If you own all the trade centers and esturies then you'll make a decent ducat out of it.
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What happened to the Hitlermod guy anyway?
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>>173864689
>1636
>early
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>>173864874
That in itself is ridiculous. Look at this, if it were EUIV those Indian holdings would be worthless because all of the money they make would be sucked up by Arabs and Africans. In orer to get any of that trade money you would need to hold the Cape, Zannzibar and the Gulf of Aden and even then you would still lose most of it in the Ivory Coast which for some retarded reason is the most important trade node in the world.
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>>173827902
W&B
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>>173865000
British empire made money on heavy taxes on the east indian company who controlled a lot more than this map shows I believe. And when I say controlled I don't mean that they owned a ton of land in the world, like some kind of superpower that you can paint on a map. But of course, reality is more complex than a game, what do you expect? You can also use your light ships.
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>>173864791
>he doesn't collect from trade
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>>173864991
>Ming exists
>mandate is 100
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>>173864783
not England, Red France
>>173864620
I'm pretty up on my tech though. I think its just shoddy ass Paradox coding. I also didn't get the Unify A Culture goal during the Age of Reformation, despite controlling all of Japan including Okinawa.
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>>173865290
You know tributaries are free to fight each other, right?
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>>173865578
This is the best Europe. There can be no doubt.
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>>173864689
I invaded Korea right after unifying Japan. Ming offered me tributary status, which I swooped up because there were a couple independent Daimyos in eastern Japan that were tributaries to Ming (which is the dumbest fucking shit ever)
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>Fighting a superior enemy for once
Tactics shall bring me victory.
The goals are:
>Neutralize the Airforce
>Capture the main supply depot in the capital,crippling the army
>Capture the secondary industrial province,leaving the enemy with no means of producing new supplies
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>>173865578
Oh burgundy = red france, of course.
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>>173865627
Yes but they can still war you, and occupying your lands will give more warscore than your blockade
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>>173865704
You know Ryukyu was both a Japanese vassal and Ming trubuitary right?
The whole point of Japan is to colonise in that time and take the non trubuitary east inidians, then you convert to Catholicism to RM thus keep peace. and get California if you want to risk it
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Should I increase mercantilism or develop land?
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>>173865978
You can't claim the empire unless you are eastern.
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>>173865773
I was surprisingly easy.
If I can't annex them,I will disarm them for good.
Secondary objective is killing off the pocket in the East and pushing the border southward.
With around 13~ IC they can't supply every unit,so they will lose.
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>>173833548
If you colonize the New World too much, your colonies will rapidly have too much liberty desire for you to handle. I suggest you try to capture the trade posts around africa and then take control of Malacca, and use the Malaccan money to take over India, you will easily make 500 money/month
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>>173865978
Yea, but I'm not in to doing meme shit like that.
>>173866058
I'm also not after the Empire, just tryna make my way in this crazy world.
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>>173866105
You only want Alaska, California, and Mexico for the gold and trade flow back to Nippon.
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Legitimate Government To The Rescue!
(The Enclave is the legitimate US government,right?)
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Can I claim Mandate of Heaven as Christian? Also it's worth to stay Catholic as Japan?
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>>173866215
no and depends what you want but probably no
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>>173827902
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>major victory
>russians and chinese kept fighting the ottoman doomstacks while outnumbered and made me lose over 25 warscore
I don't know why I chose holy war instead of imperialism. Could have scored myself constantinople.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>173866040
Unless you decide to go way outside of the box production will be a much greater part of your income than trade so develop away.
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>>173866659
WE
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>>173866664
This isn't even the first time this has happened. It happens alarmingly often.
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>>173867016
Seriously.

Also, the heir in >>173867016 had a 6 in Admin.
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>>173866173
Brazil flows into Ivory coast straight to Seville very easily. The Carribbean also flow straight to Seville and are a good node to control
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rate my plc
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>>173866664
>>173867016
>>173867098
Confirmation bias

Also,
>not wanting the Umayyads to lead the Re-reconquista
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>>173867197
I wouldn't mind the event so much if it weren't for the stability hits. That shit eats through my very badly needed admin points that I need for upgrading provinces for institution spread and for teching up.
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Both the Ottomans and Russia are in shamble and CBs just got cheaper. What do I priotize?
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>>173867386
go west
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best coast
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>African provinces don't count as colonies in EU4
huh?
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>>173867132
I was talking about steering to Nippon.
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What places have oil in HPM? I know that the Arabian peninsula does
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>>173866249
Quite based indeed by good sir! *chuckles*
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>>173866058
>claiming a heathens empire
Augustus was a virtuous pagan I'll have you know
>>173866116
>Otomo dreams are memes
>ww2 Japan is a meme
If it was such a meme then how did they beat the Americans when even?
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>>173866215
No but you don't want Mandate of Heaven
You want Ming to have a weak mandate so you can conquer their lands easily
And go catholic so you can RM people
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>>173866659
>blobists will justify these borders
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>>173867163
>1914 Russia Poland riders
Noice
>>173867232
>being a liquor poster not a role player
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>>173868487
>>173868487
They were permanent holdings and trade posts used, whereas 'colonial nations' represent when people were just offered land and as long as they paid tax all was well
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>>173869547
I still think that the warscore cost and development is just too damn high.
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The next goal is taking Kansas.
Anybody played this before?
How strong are the spiders?
They outnumber me 3-to-1.
I feel like I should take them out as soon as possible.
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>>173868093
dem pops tho
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>>173869593
Why?
Also are you using age mana to increase dev by 3, as I think that's the best use of mana in age of discovery
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>>173870165
>12.9% Portuguese
>28% catholic
well you are doing something right
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>>173869984
I've conquered the entire map as the US, after conquering the neighbours it was a trivial snowball, but then again, the US gets cores everywhere.
If you have any airforce, you've already won since its just so strong, and the enemy cant do anything against it
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I feels so nice to unite states.
But I still haven't got the event for Nevada,which I have controlled for around 2-3 years now.

>>173870494
I'm playing as the Enclave.
I will invest in air force more.
A few more bombers can't hurt.
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>>173870561
I thought only the US could get these events.
Is it your first game? Do you know what's up with that hidden nation far north?
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>>173870681
First game.
Sent the destruction codes and everything.
Anyone can get the events.
It says so in one of them.
Are the spiders problematic?
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Anyone knows where to download mandate of heaven?
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>>173870774
The destruction code cancels the event chain, you're destroying the base and killing the person there, I think it was the Fallout 2 protagonist
The spiders are just like any other nation. If you've conquered a couple of states already, you're outproducing everyone, and it's just speedbumps from now on
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>>173870964
I sorta feel like a powerhouse now with 1300~ IC.
It's only a matter of time that I can get enough divisions to fuck everyone over.
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>>173870939
Mega.nz
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Holy FUCK this is fun.
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>>173871157
How do you Byzantiums anon? I tried a few times today and each ended in swift and utter failure.
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Is it possible to revert a pirated EUIV back to 1.19 using Steam?
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is it possible to play tall in vanilla eu 4? How is this new development system?
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>>173871157
>you need DLC to win as Byzantium
Pure pottery
>>173871409
Yep, but you have to be an island and have max navy
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>>173871409
You spend mana to raise your base tax
If you like playin tall, check out M&T, which has dynamic development based on events
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>>173871539
>Yep, but you have to be an island and have max navy
i was thinking about navarra or some minor balkan country
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>>173871618
If you can have continuous mountains then yes
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>>173871570
>If you like playin tall, check out M&T, which has dynamic development based on events
yeah i know its good but i want to wait until 2.0
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>>173871539
>>173871653
If you get wrecked if the AI reaches you, you're not playing tall, you're just a poor nation
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>>173871240
Skanderbeg, look up the base strategy and then I'll explain what I did.

>>173871539
You don't need it. Makes it slightly easier defeating the t*urks, but you don't need it.
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>>173871729
>he didn't get a PhD in mana spending
>>173871773
Okay play without abusing game mechanics and come at me with a restored ERE
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>>173871676
It's still wortg checking out, 2.0 is still over a month away, and it'll be missing some features
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>>173838006
all mods are just bloat
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>>173871919
>Okay play without abusing game mechanics and come at me with a restored ERE
You what?
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when does gsg spend mana on development?

I'm pretty new and have been saving up to buy techs pretty frequently, but was wondering if there was a guideline of when you guys handle tech vs development vs anything else.
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>>173866040
develop, but don't develop your cap until you have 1000 develop ment.
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>>173872106
What country?
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>>173872106
Invest in tech the second there's no extra cost to it
Develop to get force limit up and when 1PM, after that conquer until you get end game borders. Then develop from the capital out
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>>173872106
I guess something like this.

I very often let dip tech lag behind a bit since I have no use for extra dip techs.
Then I tech it for less when admin or mil gets +3 ahead and gives me unbalanced research.
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>>173872106
as soon as you're content with your borders
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>>173872208
Currently playing Castile since I'm new to the game and am getting a hang of the ropes.

>>173872280
Define end game borders? As in how far you want to expand in the game?
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there's no point in doing this right?
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>>173872585
Don't.
Because you're in Europe and a colonizer, you won't need to develop for the first two, which are the most annoying to get.
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>>173872685
do it fgt
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>>173872685
It becomes a state and free up your colonial points.
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Are there Balkan Wars events/decisions in HPM?
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>>173872685
you can build factories there then you pleb
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>1510 and colonialism hasn't been discovered yet
wew
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>>173873136
it only has 9k people on it
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>>173873229
then get the rest of the state after you incorporated it
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The battle for the north is already lost for the Spiders.
The question is,will they be able to create a bottleneck in southern Kansas to at least halt my advance.
By the looks of it it's basically undefended.
I wonder where are the almost 400 infantry divisions the intelligence was babbling about.
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>>173872585
Castille is a massive colonizer.
On the other hand you can focus on development with Milan and such nations.

>parliament
>development tradition
>protestant
>maxed out administrative idea
>administrative+quantity national policy
>17/23/ 27 admin tech
>development edict
>university
>part of HRE
>farmlands
>center of trade

Thats....10+5+10+20+10+30+10+20+5+5+5 development reduction.....130%?
Each points of development adds 5% extra cost so that would be 20 less development counted per province plus extra six as you get admin tech.
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>>173873364
who the fuck are spiders
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>>173873430
Spiders.
Giant spiders.
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>>173873506
is it some fallout inspired mod or something? i dont recall mutated spiders in f1/f2
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>>173873506
I dont remember spiders in first 2 Fallouts.
I do remember sentient moles though.
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Negras, get it ? Am i funny yet ?
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>>173873620
>>173873645
It's fallout inspired with a North America only map.
You have filler stuff so you don't have an empty country.
The moles died early game.
SAD.
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>>173873401
>Each points of development adds 5% extra cost so that would be 20 less development counted per province plus extra six as you get admin tech.
naeh it the modifier starts at above 10 development with 3%, then it increases by another 3% every 10 development


also if it wasn't for the absolutism mechanic tall would've been buffed greatly in this patch, since you have way fewer states, meaning a lot of conquests are only 1/4th as effective as earlier due to the 75% autonomy.
Well not quite, since you still get more build slots and trade.
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Any download link to V2.0 of the Great War mod for Hearts of Iron 3?
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>>173873620
>>173873645
It's all based on pre-Bethesda lore, so most of the map is based on van Buren lore which was scrapped, expanded material, barely canon mentions, if not straight made up.
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>>173873940
Rip van Buren.
Third worst thing to be gone after Troika and Bullfrog
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In CKII, Sunni and Shia should not join each other's holy wars, right?
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>>173874129
Correct.
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>>173827894
Is Shimazu /ourguy/?
>those fucking ideas
>its in japan and japan is fun now
>MOTHERFUCKING MING makes Portugal its tribute
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>>173874204
Then I have to wonder where the fuck did Fatimids pull their doomstack from.

Life of Axum blob is cruel and unforgiving.
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>>173874223
Shimazu is ok
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>>173874318
>ok
>has ideas that even outclass late game prussia
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>>173874223
>/ourguy/
No, that is based Oda Nobunaga.
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>>173874351
>has ideas that even outclass late game prussia
not really no

And two other daimyos have better combat ideas from my calculations
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>>173874223
>Not Date or Uesugi
Baka
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>>173874416
>tfw Oda never converted to Christianity and fixed Japan
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Think I'll make it to Israel?
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The next great line we need to cross is that river.
Northern Oklahoma is already under control.
I don't know how much should I take in this war.
If steam runs out and I fail to reach the sea,I will just take Kansas and Oklahoma.
And the other northern territories.
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>Ando "If you're an Ainu, I will break your spine-u" Daimyo
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>>173868093
based
ai portugal likes to usually take zanzibar as well
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>>173827894

Rate my begginer's Ottoman.

How do I deal with Europe's aggressive expansion faggotry?

I can full annex the whole of Africa without anyone batting an eye, but if you take 2 provinces in Italy then all hell breaks loose.
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>When you form into a new EU4 nation all old permanent modifiers are removed

YOU SONS OF BITCHES
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>>173874947
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Holy shit I am not good at this game.
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>>173875383
You went into italy and austria regions. Absolutely disgusting. Otherwise it would look pretty good. Albeit connecting ethiopia and songhai regions is a must.
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>>173875512
What the hell did you do?
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>>173875448
lies
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>>173875512
>was able to take most of morocco
>couldn't even take all of Grenada
??????????????
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Raised claims on Texas too.
I'm willing to negotiate with spiders.
But we do not negotiate with Raiders.

Still,I would be pretty happy with a full conquest.
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>>173875634
I formed England as Netherlands and my Dutch bank is gone.
Only province bonuses are still in and the trade company.
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>>173875512
>why, is it because you're expanding in North Af-
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>>173875728
>I formed England as Netherlands and my Dutch bank is gone.
hm, but people have been keeping the absolutism decision from france and prussia/sweden upon forming nations
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>>173875630
>>173875684
I took Granada but seperatists arose after the war with Morocco destroyed my army and manpower. I condeded Granada back to them, then Portugal went to war with them and took it.
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>>173875690
Did the mod get updated, or you just took a long time? When I beat the game, the AI was nowhere that strong or blobbed
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>>173875859
>losing to separatists
how
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>>173875934
No army. They even took Sevilla. In retrospect I should have bought mercs to fight them off, but what can I say? I'm a scrub.
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>>173875893
They blobbed for some reason.
And I got bogged down in Canada.
Fuck Canada.
Partisans everywhere.
I'm still the strongest with the most IC and stuff,I just lack the divisions to kill everyone.
The Legion joined my alliance free of charge.

Still trying to take a hold of the US borders in the west
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>>173875987
>decide to form Spain as Portugal
>6 loans and 2 debasements later
Hey at least Castille is neutered
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>>173875512
>>173875987
I'm fucking crying here man, please post more.
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>>173875987
Desu congratulations anon, most people just quit. Seeing people fail in gs is much more amusing than watching them win
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How do I not get raped by the Fatimids as Axum?
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>>173876268
You don't >;^)
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>recruit inquisitor from clergy
>dies a month later
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>filenames
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>>173876370
I heard they can't revoke kingdoms from Infidels. What if I get vassalized by them?

Fucking Fatimids, man.
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>>173876370
You don't get raped by the fatimids?
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>>173876414
>recruit a general from the Nobles
>this happens

>>173876430
delet
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>>173876207
I've really not been able to get into EU4 so far, even though I'm a big Victoria 2 fan. I think it's because with Vicky, I went into it at the start thinking "this is supposed to be a really difficult game so it's OK if I fuck up." I weathered the troubles and learnt how to git gud.
With EU4 I've restarted loads of times now when something goes wrong, so this time instead I'm trying to weather the storm.

>>173876124
Portugal declared war on Aragon to claim Almeria, and I was called in.
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>>173876609
EU4 is really really easy when compared to EU3.
Hell, playing EU3 with tiny nations is like playing Krakow.
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>>173876609
Castile isn't really a good choice for a starting nation. When/if you get tired of it give a shot to a poland or Moscow game, abundance of expansion routes let's you be less concerned with doing everying just right.
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>>173876609
"Vicky 2 is hard" is the worst meme around. You can't even lose since the AI doesn't aggressively annex states. Plus for you to actually get a game over, you need to get hit with a CB that is a whoping 22 infamy
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>>173876609
>forts are still mothballed
>still over the limit for leaders 2 years later
>still has corruption
>1:1 cav ratio
>2 (two) thousand manpower still
I love you.
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>>173876846
You can keep deluding yourself, but making progress in Vicky 2 is in fact hard. If all you want is sit there and do nothing- sure it aint big deal. But if you want to actually expand and/or outperform AI, you have to know your way around it.
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>>173876829
It is recommended by many to start with. I've heard that now that hordes are much stronger Muscovy is harder, but I will give it or Poland a go next.

>>173876960
Is there really much benefit to not mothballing forts? Also I have a colony!
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It's a triangle!
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>>173864118
Make sure to annex kunduz since you both speak farsi
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>Play japanese damyio
>NEVER able to conquer entire japan before shogun declares war on me
>Even after I win and create japan there are still clans that remain independent
>They immediately become tributaries to Ming
>Pretty much sealed off from my full potential
>Can´t unite japan because ming will fuck me up
>Can´t do actually anything because everyone is tributary
Am I missing something? How do I unite japan 100%? This shit already happened twice
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>>173864424
That's not the most glaringly obvious reason you wouldn't make tabriz capital though. A better reason is that it's not fucking inhabited by iranians.
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>>173877063
Don't mothball your forts as it makes it easier for enemies to capture the province and you should try to colonize the Caribbean as it has good trade goods and you can get shit tons of money to flow into sevilla
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>>173877063
Aside from the fact the enemy can just walk up and take them, no.
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>>173876609
I'm a new player too but holy shit what is going on here
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>>173864647
neport and ignore
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>>173876814
>EU4 is really really easy when compared to EU3.
>Hell, playing EU3 with tiny nations is like playing Krakow.
I think the base 10k manpower and base force limits and base tax you get from just existing in eu4 does a lot.

I once tried to do a self imposed ironman game as luxembourg in eu3.
I fucked up with the first slider movement, went towards free subjects iirc and got the 1/3 "people are disappearing" which lowered the base manpower in one of my provinces(I had one), which put my max manpower at less than 1000, so I couldn't train regiments.
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This is lack of fantasy or what?
Also ck2 not beta patch when.
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>>173866249
that's WHITE
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>>173877305
Base resource leniency and cores under 2 years is the thing.
In EU3 you gotta wait for cores for 50 years every time, good luck holding Turks with Knights if you go that route and you dont go full treaty breaking scum on them.
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>>173876609
You'd probably be better off going with 4k cavalry for now.
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>>173877167
Please anybody?
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>>173877063
>It is recommended by many to start with.
That recommendation comes from the same people that insist that Ireland is the best CK2 start to learn the game, i.e. folk who parrot the line that seized to be true more than 5 expansions ago.

Moskovy can be tricky with the hordes, true, but you have an opportunity to expand rapidly, or at your own pace, wage endless war, or sign a couple alliances and sit there after taking out novgorod.

Castile's a one trick point unless you want to get involved with france, which as a new player you dont.

Sure morroco is there, but you have to deal with wrong culture/religion a lot, and that just aint fun.
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>>173877167
Become a tributary yourself, then eat the independent daimyos.
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>>173872685
Buch of globalists answering this question

NO don't do it yeah it would let you build factories there and increase gdp but then you have to deal with thousands of vietnamese in portugal proper
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>>173877325
This is what happens when a team of Swedes are obliged by market demands to change a game about Europe into a game about the world.
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>>173877063
In my opinion castile is the ultimate starting nation. I just think you got really unlucky. If you want to learn the game, just restart and ally France. Then you can be spain and do whatever the hell you want, learnig the game. Russia is good choice too. I'd say Sweden is a pretty interesting and decent choice as well. You just need to get out of Kalmar union, then you'll be a northern powerhouse. If you manage to be allied to Muscovy too then you are solid for the full lenght of the game. If not then they will be a bit of a threat.
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>>173877506
Wait a minute I can do that? War between tributaries won´t make Ming to get involved?
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>>173877894
Try it.

JUST... DO IT!!
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>>173875690
thanks doc
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I have reclaimed my land from Aragon, and then some!
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Is montenegro supposed to be serbian in EU? Or should i create montenegrin culture via modding?
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How the fuck do I get my population up in v2
I'm playing Scandinavia with HPM, every other GP has like five times my population
Hardly have enough pops to sustain my army and industry
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>>173878414
Pass reforms that increase migration attraction.
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>>173878361
Montegrin are coastal Serbs laddie.
Milo who is current prez there orchestrated separation because he is biggest Adriatic smuggler in business, now he is conning his presidency during every term so Interpol cannot charge him for smuggling cigarettes.
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>>173878193
Stop, you're doing so badly is actually hurting me physically
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Do you guys play Ironman or savescum? I tried playing Ironman and it´s not that Im a bad player or anything but... It´s impossible to successfuly play for more than 5 years in EUIV. There are for example decisive battle sometimes when you literally can´t tell who will win and if you lose it fucks up your playthrough for good
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>>173878414
you don't
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Castile guy here, fuck it I'm going to roll Muscovy instead. Any tips?
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>>173878193
>>173878608
Yeah, cut our losses and restart, friendo
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>>173878661
I have been playing ironman all the time for a long time, except if I use mods preventing it

I disagree wigh you. I always have successful campaigns.

>>173878743
Since you're a newbie: If Poland do not go for PU with lithuania, then restart.

First thing you should do is use the mission to attack novgorod. Then attack the hordes. Ally crimea if possible.
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How hard is it to become a great power with some tiny nation in HOI4?
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what should I do with all the Hansa shekels?
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>>173878743
if you're noob just play france dude
or england and give up on french provinces and just conquer scotland/irish niggers, literally nothing can go wrong
muscovy can be a tricky nation to play since you rule over useless lands and conquer sunnis
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>>173878743
Get admin ideas first.
Get the mission to take Novgorod.
Don't leave your forts mothballed when at war.
The Ottomans are FUCKING cunts and can, and will, fuck you over.
Inf Cav ratios should be 2:1.
1-6 loans are fine, 9-12 are worrying, 17 above you should consider bankruptcy.
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>>173878990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA7-B-FT-Ek
Idk you tell me
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Stupid question but, in EUIV, when should I Vassalize (+feed) and when should I just take the clay?

I rarely ever Vassalize anyone, I just usually fully annex them.

How wrong am I?
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>>173879154
Is that before or after the manpower exploit? (the airforce one)
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>>173879174
depends on your goals and whenever you want some historical vassals or not
its usually just better to annex stuff unless for example you can vassalize OPM persia and feed them entire iranian region
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>>173879263
>15 jan 2017
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>>173878661
I only play ironman because I can't keep myself from cheating
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>>173879295
The map looks absolutely horrible.

Thought it was an old version maybe.

Maybe I should just stay with hoi3.
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>>173878743
Play as an Irish nation.
It's just like in CK2, they are isolated and nobody outside the island attacks them :^)
It's one of the easiest starts
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>>173879174
On an objective point of view, it's mana-based. If you have a good paper mana king, or admin ideas, you take more, if you have a bird mana king or influence ideas you feed more.
On a subjective point of view, do whatever feels better from a roleplaying perspective or a historical perspective.
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>>173879174
When you can take a province for a vassal that has lots of cores.
For example, skopje for bulgaria.
You shouldn't bother with small vassals (outside of PU's) by about 1550-1575, they're just more trouble than they're worth.
This excludes vassals with more than 10 cores, so I'd take syrian provinces from the Mamluks, release Syria, and then take about 12 provinces.

>>173879642
This
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>>173828340
Well the Caribbean can be pretty shit at times.
Would you rather live in Jamaica or Botswana?
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Alright, I'll just post divisions here and gauge answers,
but what do you guys think of this for marines?
figure it packs a pretty good punch, and strong enough to survive regular fights.
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>>173879125
Thank you friend. I have to say, EU4 feels like an exercise in waiting for monarch points to build up. I hope Muscovy is more interesting.

>>173879525
In my Castile game they had been mostly conquered by England.
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What's the best pair of nations to coop with a friend in HoI4?

US and Britain? Germany and Italy?
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>>173879831
>EU4 feels like an exercise in waiting for monarch points to build up
It's about resource management, one of those reddit YouTuber faggots did a series on it.
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And what about tactical paradrops?
Figure they need to be lighter for the supply issues, spread more and recover faster on organization, but air drops are always tricky
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If I haven't taken a single loan am I doing it right?
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>>173879826
>>173880157
Who cares.
Just put arty on infantry and draw an arrow where you want to go.
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>>173878743
>>173879831

Go religious ideas first so you can convert the heathen hordes. Just follow the missions that give you claims to expand. Be very wary of Poland-Lithuania early on as together they are stronger than you. If you get lucky like I just did they won't get the Personal union which makes Lithuania easy to pick apart.
Rate my Europe lads
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Oh shit nigger, grob litauen is no more
>>
My main infantry for the bulk of the force
>>173880215
thats the point faggot, these are for tactical advances, either naval or air invasion where you can't go with the bulk of the force
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>>173879810
I would rather not live around niggers entirely.
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And finally the mobils to move on plains,
these break through quite easily
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>>173880229
>no Russian Constantinople reclaimed from those FUCKING t*rks
>no vassalised remains of the Romans
0/10, try again
Also, religious is pretty shit now for a first group.
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>>173879826
Why even bother? Just pack your invasion force with at least 6 divisons and you will break through anything
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>>173880614
you haven't played this much, have you?
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Why Denmark?
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>>173875383
Beginner's indeed. This is what the map should look like around 1600.
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>truce with Novgorod for 15 fucking years
Why is there so much waiting in this game? I'm tempted just to go back to Victoria 2.
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>>173868093
Just did a Portugal run where I colonized all of Africa. Thought this was my game lol
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>>173877167
Chinese will come on limited transports, idiot. Smash them when they land. They will have -2 from landing if you move into position first.
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>>173879642
>On an objective point of view, it's mana-based. If you have a good paper mana king, or admin ideas, you take more, if you have a bird mana king or influence ideas you feed more.
Another thing to keep in mind is how big your vassals are.
If they're getting too big you may still want to core yourself even if you have more birds than paper so you don't have to beat them down.
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>>173880541
But Moscow is the center of the Orthodox faith :^)


>muh deus vult cb

Missionary strength is to important to pass it up. Plus with Influence it makes ethnic cleansing so much cheaper.
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Ming at war with Timurids in 1452. How realistic is it?
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Should I vassalise Tver or take the land and pay the cost in overextension and adm points?
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>>173880849
Truce timers scale with the amount of warscore you took in the peace deal. If they only last 5 years countries would be irrelevant if they lost 1 war considering it takes like 10 years to replenish your manpower pool fuly.
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>>173880084
>It's about resource management, one of those reddit YouTuber faggots did a series on it.
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>>173881181
True.
I might give it a go and see if it's still decent my next Byzboo game
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>>173830745
>French allying with protestants despite being catholic
>France allying with muslims despite being Christian
Why the hell was this unholy abomination of a country not excommunicated?
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>>173881202
Never vassalise something you don't intend to feed or keep around.

Just annex it.
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this game
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>>173881347
France was the irl player
just trying to min/max alliances and disregard rp
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>>173881302
Yeah that one, ream my asshole paradox or whatever he was called
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>>173881430
Range advisor.
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>>173881430
oh ok
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In a few hundred hours of EU3+EU4 I've only ever had 2 personal unions.

I always wondered if I was doing something wrong.
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>>173881684
Yes, learn to claim. Also pay attention to the alert which lists heirless kingdoms.
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Got a question
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>>173878743
>tips
Admin->Influence->Religious or Military(opinions vary, I like Aristocratic because I'm a strong believer in horses)

Make sure you are working to secure an alliance with a great power, which ever one suits you best. Usually it's Poland or their rivals, depends on how you want to deal with poles.

Be mindful of AE and don't go to war if you can't sink the cost. To that effect you can rotate between fighting christians and fighting muslims.

Use vassals when you are running short on adm points, feed them. Make sure that if you are releasing something you aren't releasing it as a protectorate tho.
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>>173881684
yes
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>>173881684
its mostly random, but you can influence it
just check disputed successions and marry faggots without heir
also keep huge prestige all the time
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>>173881302
I've found the channel but there's nothing on monarch points that I can see.
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>>173881684
>I always wondered if I was doing something wrong.
There is a thread on plaza that goes into great detail on inner workings of PU. In short - it ain't worth it unless you are racing the clock, it's very RNG reliant, but many find it quite fun to play the game of thrones.
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>>173881824
>aristocratic
Don't advise anyone ever.
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should I take the whole southern region or just the island (treaty port)?
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HIP or CK2+?
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>>173882017
Opiinos vary, as I said. I see no reason to chase optimal military power in SP game where your greatest bottlenecks are economy, mana and AE. I find it a good all round group for countries that don't need a military boost early on.
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>>173881930
latest video
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>>173882194
There's no opinions here. Aristocratic is shit at best. I don't see a reason to gimp yourself when there are 3 very good military idea groups, the best being quantity, of course.
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>>173882017
It's not bad if you're going for more cav than just the flanks.
Like 100% cav hordes, or most likely even 50/50 as poland or whatever.

The army tradition decay can do a lot as well, as long as you have enough base generation.
Usually means after you already have defensive+quality.
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>>173882114
Hip is better for 1000 start and historical autism
CK2+ is better for CM start and gameplay autism

>>173882262
>There's no opinions here
You are, evidently mistaken.
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Is there any way I can disable AI using cheats? IM getting tired of killing 50 000 army just so enemy can shit out another 50k stack right after immediately
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>>173882335
Okay buddy.
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>>173882104
Stop playing liquoria II
>varg.jpg
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>>173882335
I can't say that helps but I don't really know what I want either. Which one is better in terms of performance and adds some flavor shit?
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>>173881738
>>173881865
>>173881951
I always just kept doing opportunistic wars.

Never really cared to even bother, but I guess it may have crippled me sometimes.
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>>173882404
just play on very easy so you have the same amount of cheats as the AI. you can also disable lucky nations in the options.
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>>173882441
I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but holy shit, "I've played the game a lot therefore opinions don't exist" is a fucking retarded argument. What you mean is, "I've played the game a lot therefore my opinion is more trustworthy." It's still an opinion.
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>>173882795
If experience, logic and general consensus are merely an opinion, then you have a problem with science.
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>>173882441
Look at that, an actual epen stoker, how rare.

>>173882479
>performance
It varies from patch to patch, generally if you have performance issues you disable india and roll with it, I do believe both have that option, tho I might be misremebering, been a while since I last played ck2.
>flavor shit?
HiP is better for "cool historical flavor", ck2+ is better for "cool gameplay flavor". Its hard to give you a precise example since they constantly trade ideas, but generally if you want rolepplaying more, you go HiP, if managing vassals/kingdom/war than CK2+

>>173882534
>I always just kept doing opportunistic wars.
It can be good for you, it can be bad for you, much like most CB in EU4.
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>>173882795
Quantity is objectively better than Aristocratic.
Just like Offensive is better than Quantity
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>Ruler manages to defeat hosts half again s lrge as his own in pitched battle without
>Ruler gets maimed and incapable in a battle with a force 1/6th his size while raiding
>Cannot do anything to alter the succession due to being incapable
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>>173882962
It is indeed objectively better for war, which is why when I was called on to elaborate for why I advised it I explained that I believe that it's good when you don't need a military idea set but still have points for one.
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>>173882949
Thanks, I guess I'll just try both.
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Right of the bat: I'm really new to EU4 so this might be the dumbest shit you hear this week.

I'm playing Ottomans, I made Georgia and Syria my vassals. I want to grant them provinces around them.
The only way i can do this is by selling each province one by one for free. Which is tedious to do as I have to wait a month between each province.

If I'm reading the wiki right, I should have a "grant province" button on the subject screen? Its not there.

Am I missing something stupidly obvious?
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>>173883124
le no dlc face
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>>173883124
>Am I missing something stupidly obvious?
Do you have all the DLC? Some features are locked behind this or that one since they were added with it.
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>>173883228
>>173883286
I have all the DLC
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>>173883421
Did you activate them?
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>>173883421
Screenshot your subject interactions window please
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>>173882887
I am a scientist. It's a game with no set goals, there is no "objectively better". The consensus is still an opinion.
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>>173883421
Post this retard
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>>173883704
>no set goals
really makes you think.
>what is decisions
>what is missions
truly gets the noggin jogging.
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>>173853882
Play as tribal, form merchant republic, and do pagan things all the while
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>>173883840
>>what is decisions
>>what is missions
Optional objectives. You might as well claim that developing tech or getting female ruler is a goal.
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>>173883891
Speaking of which
Should I do this for the Shetlands, Isle of Mann, or Faroe Islands?
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CK2 newbie here, I'm the king of Leon and started as an Irish earl. I'm getting a "title loss on succession" alert telling me that all of my Irish clay is gonna go to my sister instead of my son when I die. How can I prevent this? I put her in prison, anything else I should/could do?
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>>173884101
at last, i have seen the light,
coded objectives that advance the country you re playing in are optional and thus not goals.
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>>173884182
kill her, change succession laws
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>>173884182
Change the Law or kill her.
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>>173884182
kill her.
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>>173882195
Thanks. Doesn't seem to change the fact that there's a huge amount of waiting around, though.
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>>173883026
>using your ruler to lead armieis
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>>173884182
>I put her in prison
Well that was a bad idea.

But to be on point various titles have individual succession rules. I suspect you are running Your best bet is either changing them to one thing or figuring out how to get them to point to one thing via either diplomacy or murder. I suspect in your case it's tanistry fucking around and your kid's too young for your dynasty to vote him heir. Either stay alive till he is old enough and try to get him good diplomacy score or switch leon to tanistry and become the sister.


>>173884260
Good on you. We all thought you'd never get it, but you tried hard and did. What a bright las.
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>>173884529
truly makes you think. and yes there is a clear goal in that game, to survive. and the best way to survive is by becoming strong and the best way to become strong is by using the decision, objectives so you grow faster.
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>>173884304
>>173884361
>>173884387
>>173884529
Thanks, /gsg/
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>>173884260
You can be as sarcastic and facetious as you like, but what you said is completely true.
There is no need to be such a nerd about this. It's not science, it's not even chess, it's an open-ended game.
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can anyone tell me why in meiou my forts are easily besieged and fall in such a short time-span even when it is at -27 percent?
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>>173885787
Build better forts.
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So in Vicky 2 is the best all-around army comp just 5 infantry, 5 artillery, 1 hussar?

Then ditch the hussar and replace the infantry with guards if you need a breakthrough unit?

Any reason to ever use any other comp?
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1 or 7 decides
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>>173886006
Hussars are a frontline unit so you can add 1 artillery to that for a start.
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>>173886006
4 Infantry, 4 artillery, 1 hussar, 1 engineer
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>>173886154
Espionage
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>>173886006
>Any reason to ever use any other comp?
I don't remember shit as far as "best comp" goes, but I do remember that staying on the same comp for the whole game ain't it.

The key is to always have enough recon, shovels and a solid backrow. Beyond that, circumstances dictate.
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>>173885032
>>173884660
kmm
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>>173886006
4 4 2 1
>>173886154
administrative
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>>173886154
exploration
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>>173886154
Maritime
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>>173874223
Yep best nation
>>173874560
>/gsg/ is >>>r/eddit
Really makes you think
>>173874637
Wouldn't even be that hard just have a HRE style thing, and say it's John Prestors empire and not the Romans empire
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>>173886962
I want this anon to have a good grobprussiums, so fuck off
>>173886154
Go for influence
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>>173882887
You didn't use logic though
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>>173875383
>taking provinces with lots of pops scares people vs taking provinces which never made profits in the 20th century
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>>173886154
Economic, outjew the jews
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>>173882451
Stop being in Steamcordplaza.
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>>173886154
espionage
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>>173886154
Fucking exploration
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>>173886154
Innovative

the siege policy is really nice
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Is Victoria 2 the whitest grand strategy game?
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>>173887307
Finally, winrar
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rate my europe
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>>173874698
Just don't convert to ashkenazi or sefaradi culture, it's retarded and you are just about as legit as them.
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>>173887406
no
sengoku rance
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>>173887406
In terms of gameplay mechanics, yes. In terms of fanbase, probably HoI.
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What is the official march of /gsg/?
>inb4 Preußens Gloria or Erika
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>>173887436
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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>>173887543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRQmu3gRWw
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>>173876609
EU4 has a worse curve than Vicky 2 now, because there's just so much sheer fucking content to learn. Vicky 2 is in-depth, but EU4 piles on the shit you need to know. Don't feel bad.
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>>173887543
Is it wrrong if I unironically think the URSS one is super cool?
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>>173887543
It unironically is Erika.
https://youtu.be/PXRQmu3gRWw
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>>173887638
holy shit
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>>173887436
I laughed when I saw that ottoman
what's that little fuccboi of a nation stuck between austria, france, and tuscany?
>norway
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>>173887741
>>norway
well they finally kept Jämtland
be careful what you wish for
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>>173876570
You know the general select screen shows his pips
Also similar tale for me
>preparing for first shogun war
>roll General whilst building up armies
>5/4/1/2
>gets +10% infantry fire or something after fighting rebels
>get visit monastery event
>he does and lose 5k manpower
>now have to wait another year to get enough manpower for war
SOON>>173879831
>it's just waiting for mana
How retarded are you
It's maximum roleplay as anything can happen
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>>173887741
Wasteland.
That's right, in es jay triple u four the inner congo js 10 developement and europe is wasteland.
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>>173887581
I even spent the last 50 years doing nothing but whittling down the Ottoman possessions in Europe. They were pretty much into Poland and further into Italy before.

>>173887741
>>173887910
It's OPM Switzerland.
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>>173887543
erika you faglord
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>>173887436
>>173887972
And my North America, forgot to post. Choctaw was the biggest nation there for most of the game, only got reduced at the end.
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>>173877167
>shogun declares war
Only had that when I pissed him off and thought Ming would protect me
>tributaries of ming
Either restart or become a trubuitary youreself so you can annex them. Then go colonising
Suppourt Manchu and when Ming is weak you break free and sign quick peace, getting War score from blockades mainly, and blockades mean their few ships won't even be able to leave
Let alone get BTFO by the waves of Nippon
As I said writing guide for shizmazu
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>>173888298
>Haitiate Mexico

make it stop
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>>173887436
>gross bulwark of christianity and france
>united germany under austria
outside of huge ottomans that will momentarily will be kicked out by PLC-Tuscan-Austrian and alliance and sent back into stone age i would say that your europe has great future, anon
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>>173888438
espionage
become merchant republic arabia anon
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>>173888438
econ, trade
become memerchant republic
exploration, maritime, naval
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>>173877325
>HOW DARE THEY CHANGE IDEAS NOT LIKE EVER HAPOENED TO EUROPE PRUSSIA IS NOT BROKEN AS THE GAME HAS TO SUCK OTTOMAN COCK BYZANTIUM IS THE REAL ROMAN EMPIRE DEUS VULT XDDD
kiddo calm down
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>>173888438
Naval Ideas

>>173888460
I agree. I colonised all of India too (pic related) so will spread glorious Christian civilisation to the Ottomans inbetween.
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>>173888298
>castilian louisiana
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>ally Poland,Austria and Mamluks
>vassalize Byzantium after Ottomans attack them so you get dragged into a defensive war.
>defensive war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
>Enrico Dandolo laughing from heaven
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>>173888605
Different nations.
Their ideas are called the same.

Literally calm down.
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>>173888619
those borders look nice but wtf is that russian tentacle doing there
did you start as lucca
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I am planning on playing as Luxemborg in vicky 2. If prussia forms Germany (IE by gutter crown), am I basically screwed?
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>>173888619
hm, intredasting to add baluchistan
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>>173888619
Why didn't you form italy?
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>>173878661
The only time I don't use ironman is when modding
The backup save lets you scum abit
But what's wrong with reflecting history where the battle turned the wrong way and everything went to shit
Revanchism stops you losing anyway
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>>173887905
>How retarded are you
>It's maximum roleplay as anything can happen
Rich to be calling me retarded when this makes no fucking sense. Through my experience of the game so far, there's a lot of time during which your options are seriously limited, and you're waiting for mana or truces to expire or whatever for them to open up again. The fact that you eventually can do things and steer your country in nearly any direction, which is what I assume you mean by "anything can happen", doesn't change the fact that most of the game seems to be just waiting.
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>>173888653
Based and white. You're doing god's work son.

Don't forget to snatch Alexandria and other merchant friendly provinces that will make fine addition to your otherwise prestigious and honourable nation.
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Is there anyway to convert pops to your state religion in Vic2 or is assimilation the only way
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>>173888862
>italy
ew
>>
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>>173888743
Yes. It was Ironman, I did the Lucky Lucca achieve, and then there was heaps of time left so I did Master of India.

>>173888858
Baluchistan was the first province I invaded to get a foothold in the subcontinent, so I decided to grab all the provinces of the culture group and add to India.

>>173888862
I've done that too many times, I decided I just wanted the provinces of the three culture groups that I had. In the last 30 years though, I was given a province in the south by the Commonwealth from the Ottomans, and in the west from the French.
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>>173888845
goals?
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>>173889000
Form Germany with French as accepted culture.

Blob Empire of the Franks.
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>>173881201
Considering china fought the abbassids
Yes m>>173881347
Papal fear of hapsburg supremacy
No one likes a unifier
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>>173888619
Shit Indian borders, lad.
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>>173888996
>Lucky Lucca achieve
Can you do this while forming italy?
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>>173888906
I intend to become Byzantium actually, after i get my electorship from HRE unless i lose half my modifiers on doing it.
Also half the events are based around Constantinople being raped and pillaged so i will let Turks have it for a while.
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>>173889198
No, and in fact I had to hold off on forming Tuscany until after I got the achieve.

>>173889189
Literally the only difference is that I didn't blob into SEA, which isn't India at all.
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>>173878661
I mostly play mp so I can't save/load then when I fuck up.

When I was new another player attacked me with his ottoman ally fairly early on while I was fighting the timurids.
I couldn't fight the ottomans and had to give up land.
Then since I was new I didn't keep an eye on OE in the peacedeal and collapsed to the rebels that followed and my land had a minor implosion.
Still took back the lands I lost, conquered the rest of the timurids.
Started making some gains in india until the bharat player from the bengal region started beating me back, lost 2 wars I think, but I ate the gujarat player and other AI nations and then I started beating him as well.
Later on I was making more money than anyone else and I could take on ottoman and the player ally.
Ended up with land from morocco to half india, most of anatolia and rome.

You can turn things around.
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>>173889091
Alternatives: Holstein and form Germany-Denmark; Banat and form Germany-Hungary
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>>173888890
Most of war is just waiting for a siege to end
Doesn't stop seeing men cower in fear as you charge in behind with your lances into their crooked flesh being fun
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>>173889365
>burma isnt india
hmm
And I meant the Pakistan border.
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>>173889637
At least in war you're responding to the map and moving troops around, not just twiddling your thumbs. I get your point, but for whatever reason, it just seems so much more fun to do it in Victoria 2. There's always something going on, always a plan to be made on the global stage. I've not had that experience in EU4 yet but I'll stick at it and keep trying different nations.
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>>173878661
I don't use ironman because I add diplo points so I can change cultures whenever I want. I don't want the people of my Spain/Portugal/Poland/etc living side-by-side with Berbers and Bedouins.
>>
name some countries, contemporary or historical, with nice borders
>current pakistan
>archduchy of austria
>ww2 hungary
>greater Japan+korea+taiwan
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>>173890420
1871 germany
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>>173889923
>cheating
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>>173879810
Jamaica, i'd be around savage niggers but at least i'd have something to eat.
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>>173890420
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>>173879810
Botswana until their diamonds run out, they have subsidised healthcare
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>>173890552
>savage
>drugged up retards
Pick one.
https://youtu.be/9de6jeOevi8
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>>173890420
Korea in general is nice as fuck.
>cute little peninsula divided from mainland by Yalu
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>>173890514
Yeah, I know. I just don't get the mana system. Plenty of Empires in history conquered land and expanded fast and developed the land they conquered (sometimes developed beyond all recognition). You just can't do that in this game.

I probably won't be playing EU4 much longer though. Seeing Zulu's with horse drawn artillery in 1500, Native American Duchies and Institutions spawning in Georgia is just a bit too much. They should add orcs and dragons for the next xpac.
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>>173890773
>not going full crazy negro mode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Butt_Naked
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>>173890927
>orcs and dragon
So Paradox will rip off modders again? Not surprised.
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>>173890927
>You just can't do that in this game.
You actually can now. With the new state edict lowering developement cost by 33%, combine that with some other modifiers snd you can easily get -66% cost.
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this is quite something new
>1940
>war still haven't kicked off
>only 40% tension
>will start gobbling up territory
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>>173890485
Ugly without Luxembourg and it looked lopsided
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>>173890927
>Plenty of Empires in history conquered land and expanded fast and developed the land they conquered (sometimes developed beyond all recognition). You just can't do that in this game.
Since common sense you can

>I probably won't be playing EU4 much longer though. Seeing Zulu's with horse drawn artillery in 1500, Native American Duchies and Institutions spawning in Georgia is just a bit too much. They should add orcs and dragons for the next xpac.
there are no zulus
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>>173891130
all of that arrow autism when the only thing you need to do is get a field marshal, fill it with 60 divisions of armored and boom you just won the game.
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>>173891054
>Africa
The entire continent is fucked up. The Caribbean niggers are alright, because they largely just smoke weed and live on the beach. A lot of them have some connection to Britain as well, so they have sort of quasi civilisation.
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>>173891152
but I've seen it enough times in my strategy video games that I become unfuriated that the modern real life borders don't match up
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>>173891296
Its European fault Africa is so bad.
Did you know modern science is a colonial construct and should be destroyed and built from the ground up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14
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>>173891296
What is the non-/po/ or SJW answer (Africans are just dumb / europeans ruined everything) to why Africa is so bad?
>>
grand strategy for the call of duty crowd
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>>173891912
Well there is this.
You also got that Chink documentary....Empire of Dust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfg-DK1I1JE
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>>173891912
I'm not sure.

The africans got the technology before being the culture.
No long term adjustment like the people of europe, mena and asia got, so instead of advancing they got warlords with modern weapons and old superstitions which may be harder to get out of than warlords with old weapons and old superstitions, regardless of race.


they lack the essential 1-4% neanderthal master race dna tho....
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Is there any point doing global merchant republics after the 20 province cap?
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>>173891912
>non-/po/
I don't know man... /po/ is pretty heavy shit, i heard they tortured some african children and made then do origami for 72 hours straight.
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>>173891912
Back to lefty/po/, lad.
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>>173891912
africa is an almost perfect habitat for humans, naturally
the reason humans that live in harsher climates (but not too harsh) tend to have better civilizations is because of the adversity of simply living. it breeds a tougher, more "civilized" bunch that only survive by working together
it's a fine line between tribalism and empire. you'd be surprised
since africans face little adversity from the land itself, they never needed to have any kind of civilization. if you take note, you'll see that the "african civilizations" that are talked about were all in the arid north and had arabic influence
also, by all biological standards, the different races are different subspecies of humans. political correctness stifles that notion
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>>173835383
what game
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>>173891912
Africa is bad because Europe left before they managed to make it good.
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America's America is finally is under American control.
Decided to establish a puppet government in Canada.
A native state.
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>>173891912
>Africans never conquer each other
>successor kingdoms aren't created
Look at how much near east Civs take from Babylon and the other first one. Look at how china came from one super advanced place at the time.
Because this did not naturally happen to the new they have not evolved socially enough
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>>173892303
>africa is the perfect habitat for humans
*tips mosquitos, malaria, disease, frequent famine, lack of rainfall and extremely deadly animals*
I'd say the perfect habitat for humans is somewhere like the mediteranean, where there isn't many aggressive animals and the climate is good for growing food pretty much all year round.
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>>173892386
>>successor kingdoms aren't created
One of the reasons I don't think the civilizations could really thrive and advance as much in the americas.

West-east distance is more important than north-south since the climate changes too much if you go south or north, so for a successor to take up pick up the torch you need more width than what the mesoamericans had between the pacific and the atlantic ocean.
Technology like chariots could be shared between england and china.
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>>173892513
T. Jared diamond
https://pastebin.com/nqzsAWX8
This explains it all
>>173891912
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>>173892513
>I'd say the perfect habitat for humans is somewhere like the mediteranean
I think probably Nile or Euphrates/Tigris.
I'd say they have a bit of an edge over things like indus since they lead into safer seas.
>>
>>173892636
China was super easy to get to from Yorkshire >>173892696
Read that link Eurasia is a flawed concept beyond belief
>>
Would this be proper thread for a game like Geopolitical Simulator 4
>>
>>173892636
Supposedly Romans took crossbow design from Chinese during an expedition around Central Asia.

Also reminder Chinks use Arabic numerals since mid 13th century or so.
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>>173892696
>implying i'm jared diamond
I'm as /pol/ as it gets, laddo, I even had my virginity taken by BASED milo, but anybody can see that Africa is far from optimal to live on, the only reason whitey conquered it is because we invented the drugs that allowed us to go there without instantly dying.
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>>173892795
>Mediterranean has safer seas
You know what the Bronze Age collapse and sea peoples are right
Also those environments are ideal only for fertility of soil allowing agriculture, allowing a larger population
>>173892836
Yes post more
>>173892913
>Roman expedition
We only have records of Chinese going to Rome but not back to china
Also Indians visited Augustus and paid tribute
And crossbow was passed by the Greeks
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>>173892696
>No significant cultural exchanges took place between these regions until the 15th century
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>>173893048
Downloading it now and gonna post when I am playing senpai
>>
anyone want to host some liq
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>>173892970
>Jared isn't /pol
He's alt right m8
>you need drugs to conquer Africa
Some basins have still not been discovered, you don't need drugs just a certain bark and to minimise standing water
>>173893049
Stuff happened but far slower than you'd think. If stuff can pass from china to Picts why can't it go from Rome to Sub-Ethiopia
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Why is the shitty Ulm meme so liked among r*ddit subhumans?
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>>173893372
>If stuff can pass from china to Picts why can't it go from Rome to Sub-Ethiopia
Chariot map doesn't include the picts though
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>>173893372
>He's alt right m8
>africans r dumb because geography
>move us to europe and wwe be kings
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>>173891294
>and boom you just won the game
and whats the fun in that,
why is there always some autists shitposting on this game?
and ps, knowing how to do real strategic planning means the difference
>>
>>173893565
Brcuase in eu3 some guy conquered the world as Ulm and made gayer comics than poland ball about it
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>>173893667
>what are 'redpilled' Hungarians telling you that they're the best
>what are ottomans
>what are Americans saying how great the world would be if hitler won and actually killed all the Jews
>>
>>173893910
t. hoi4 pro.
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>>173894263
what are some poles telling that hungarians are the best
>>
>>173892360
can you play as mutants or are you limited on the human factions?
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I wanna make a nice french client state
What should the name be?
I thought of:
>Gallic federation
>West francia
>Vichy france
>Unified French states
Pick one or name a better one
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>>173894640
Any faction.
There is a supermutant one.
Pretty brutal fighters.
Took me three wars to kill them.
There are also multiple ghoul states.

They all have tech trees.
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When are we going to see a Korea vs China playthrough posted here??
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>>173894687
forgot to attach pic
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>>173894837
I guess I can attack Korea
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>>173894881
The Fifth Republic, after the current German client state in France
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>>173894687
>>173894881
Algerian federation
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>>173894881
What if France was called Frank lmao
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>>173892970
>I'm as /pol/ as it gets, laddo, I even had my virginity taken by BASED milo
Now that's what I call tryharding
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>herald from Ming
>they tell us of Nomad Frontier
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>>173894687
Name it "Charlemagne was German"
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>>173894809
Any advice on how to run it?
When I try to start the mod, nothing happens but on task manager the DH task is listed for some reason
>>
Holy shit you guys are bad at this, i just called it Unified french states
>>173895059
>fifth republic, when the second french empire is currently in place
>>173895075
>
>>173895171
lmao
>>
What should my idea groups be for Shizmazu -> Japan, sepcifically first idea group, and two years away from uniting japan
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Is this the most redpilled version of america?
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>>173894881
>Herr Frankenreich, you have created a monster!
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>>173895428
>doesn't know post ironic humour
exactly what i expected from a REDDIT SHAREBLUE SHILL
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>>173894837
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France coming in on Spain's side was pretty fucking shit though.
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>>173895975
No, this is

>>173896023
You're still tryharding.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfsmQXq3mZ0
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Does this mean you can play as an OPM in EU:R? Just farm barbarians all day erry day and get your capital capped out in pops.
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>>173896205
/gsg/ will post NK national ideas
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>tfw oldest ally annexed by overlord
four syame
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>he's a KuK
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>>173896298
>t. greatest ally
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>>173896434
>Rear Admiral
Is that slang for your typical French sailor?
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It's just you and me buster
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You gotta be shitting me
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just
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>>173895430
The fact that Ming's only remotely killable if that disaster fires is a bit screwy. They're broke as fuck if it does fire, but unless it does trying to take on Ming is a fool's errand. That said I do like the new system and this patch in general. 10/10 would pedo again.
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>>173895567
Charllemagne
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>get memedate of heaven
>era of revolution comes
>AI's start massively blobbing for no reason
WTF wiz
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>>173897313
>Start EUIV
>AI's start massively blobbing for no reason
WTF wiz
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A warlord would end it now, but I am no warlord, ~I have to unfify, to make Nippon prosper, and the rice shall grow large or Ashikaga blood so the rest may survive
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>>173897414
>>173897313
>they dont like comfy imperialist worlds
what's wrong with you
>>
>>173897439
How the hell are you doing so good? I tried playing as various clans and every single time once I get big they start forming coalitions against me and then it´s all over.
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>>173897756
>coalitions
Wait anon and improve relations so they don't jojn coalitions, and if they do they leave them soon.
With shizmazu, unite kyushu, and then just be an oppurtunistic little bitch but keep lands united and you'll be fine
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so should it be like this
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Is it a bug if I can't upgrade the demesnes of my vassals?
I tried to improve their Hillforts but when their construction is finished they are just back to hillfort level "0".
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Some hot cruiser on destroyer action
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what's my endgame i will make it happen goys
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Now just to annex them
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>>173898095
or like this?

I'm having quite a hard time deciding

might roll back the save to before I reconquered the uyghurs and yunnan and qinghai
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What did Paradox mean by this?
>>
>>173897301
Karl der Große
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>>173898268
conquer balkans + greece and colonize desu
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Nothing quite like stealing a billion people from your enemy's homeworld

Also what the fuck is up with having to do 5 different recaptcha's to post
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How else would I annexed chosowaka and ashigaka.
>>
>>173898095
>Heavenly kingdom
>Actually heathen buddhists
wew lad>>173898268
>>
>>173898621
>>173898268
Damnit, missclicked before the post counter ticked down.

For Montenegro: Your goal must be to annex every coastal province in the game.
>>
>>173887436
I'm surprised Flanders and Utrecht survived that long.
>>
>>173898268
>we collapse due to a pretender
>mission to get legitimacy succeeds
its a shitty start though, fucking bosnia allied serbia and no one wants to support my independence
if nothing happens in 10-20 years im restarting this shit
>>
>>173897903
douzou lad
Im gonna play uesugi and unite northern japan
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>>173888653
Truly, the merchants of Venice are Byzantium's greatest ally.

I just hope your attack on the Ottomans isn't motivated by Islamophobia.
>>
>>173899064
douzo lad
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What country, what political party, boys?
>>
>>173880157
Tactical paratroopers:

1 paratrooper division
No support divisions

After you paradrop, chance their template to Armor
>>
>>173899230
ps i'm basically brand new and really shit at the game so
>>
>>173879826
Needs artillery

>>173880346
Needs artillery

>>173880485
Needs SP-artillery
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>>173899230
Luxemburg
Invade israel
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>>173899523
Meme suggestion

Unless I get a good one i'm probably playing as this 0 seats in parliament exreme right british party
>>
>HoI4
how to wage war on someone and not have britain chime in? its not even 50% tension yet

>>173899258
that gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever heard from this game
the divisions will literally have zero equipament and organization

>>173899407
just put some artillery in there would ya?
>>
Syrian civil war map for hoi4 when?????????
>>
GIVE ME A LINK TO MONKS AND MYSTICS THAT DOESNT REQUIRE ME TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT
>>
>>173899834
Here you go
http://store.steampowered.com/app/530780/
>>
>>173878661
I just cheat
>>
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>>173896383
Okay, so the story is this.

In 1440 Korea was sending it's annual tribute to China, on the way, in Pyongyang, they were attacked by some dirt poor farmers, trying to get money to eat, the soldiers protecting the ambassador started attacking the farmers, resiliance like this went on for months before China sent a small contingent of soldiers to defend the tribute givers, the North Korean peasants then formed a real militia and fought with the Chinese, defeating them, taking them prisoner and securing their weapons, they then occupied the North with said weapons.

After this China attempted to send troops to put down the rebellion, but the Manch tribesmen in the North stopped them entering Manchuria, not wanting to agitate the tribes the Chinese went back to China and now receive their tribute from South Korea via boat.

I gave them developement traditions, so teching up will be easy as fuck and I can create a powerhouse.
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Finally the world is free
Played vanilla, what mod should I hook up for an enhanced experience?
>>
>>173899660
>extreme right
No such thing as too right
>>
>>173896337
Do give it a go. Keep in mind that Rome's capital starts at where you want to be, and is 50% citizens.
>>
>>173899967
>development cost
>production efficiency
>spy network
nice fucking meme
at least give them more fitting ideas
>>
>>173887638
underrated
>>
Is Ming based?
>>
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2nd time this run a general died, daiymo died to regency before
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>>173900148
What do I do desu, gotta raise that popularity up, wanna get elected.
Already called up Nigel Farage and told him I plan on monitoring all non-protestants if I were prime minister
>>
>>173900110
>france exists
nice freedom
>>
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>>173899230
Argentinia, right wing
BRING IT BACK IN CONTROLL
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Makes more sense to go for this if I'm playing for ww2 borders
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I haven't passed even one reform and these people are free to buy all the opium they want to keep themselves occupied

maybe they're mad about christianity
>>
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How rare is grob serbien?
>>
>>173899230
This game is so shit it's beautiful
>>
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Believable world in 194 BC
>>
>>173900153
How do you turn Rome into an OPM?
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>>173899230
>Political tendency: Communist religious
islamic gommunist galiphate :DDDD
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I got cucked.
Decide the faith of my unfaithful ex-wife, her lover and their son
>>
Is the newby anon that was gonna play Moscow here? I'm curious how it went.
>>
>>173900868
Death by firing squad.
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>>173900365
wew
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>>173900369
don't worry, they are commie too
>>
>>173900868
Free them both, you're a cuck now.
>>
>>173900982
>not internationalism
Either make every nation state indepedent or make none of them independent, don't mix and match.
>>
is playing with no lucky historical nations in eu4 considered cheating
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>reach 1821
>game doesn't end
>weird shit beings to happen
Is this happening to anyone else? I haven't changed a single setting.
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>>173896298
>>173896495
AHAHAHAH
>>
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>pirate their seas
>home pirates
>become tribuitary
>still pirate them
>make smuggle rings
That docklyard cannot come soon enough
>>
New Thread

>>173901335
>>173901335
>>173901335
>>173901335
>>
>>173900741
You don't, the implication is that due to civilization's effect on the soft popcap, local civilization spread and the population ratio of base roman and egyptian provinces (and greek and seleucid), any and all one province minors will be desperately behind in manpower, forcelimits, income AND technology by the time they become relevant in the slightest, if they don't get eaten by then.
>>
>>173887436
>ottomans and moors in europe
>rate my europe
0/10
>>
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>Khorasani khorasan
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>>173901569
Right, I misinterpreted "where you want to be" as a geographical location instead of a good pop balance.
>>
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How do I get more commanders? Most I have range from shit (4) to abysmal (2) martial skill, but even if I use whoever available I can't even fill my armies with commanders. I want to declare war on Carthage/Illyria soon but I want some monster commanders first.
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what now?
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