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Waifu roulette Edition

>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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guard bests girl
but you don't roll for a waifu you sick degenerates
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>>173657485
kira pls
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>>173657485
4th for guard girl
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Why do I get the feeling there's some unknown force out there thats stopping me from fully quitting this game

>mfw someone offers 20c for my legacy wings of entropy
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I'm going to make a Sunder build, using the brain rattler
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WASSUP! r8 my build yall

>hierophant for FREE 5-links, FREE end charges
>brain rattler for FULL LIGHTNING CONVERSION
>shock everything, everywhere
>on top of 3 damage auras
>tri curse
>life/es
>MoM
>theorycrafted 1.6mil dps WITHOUT VINKTARS
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>>173660567
>Use sunder
>Realize the only advantage it has is range
>Use EQ instead
>Clear uber mega godmode shaper in 3 seconds
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>>173660746
Please don't make me depressed
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>>173660936
This better give me a T15 map
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Need 1 elreon daily to level him up. Pls help.
ign: IDont
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>>173661206
You're not running that map, pussy
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>>173660567
i did that when league began

100% lightning convo. 250k dps or something

naturally i exploded myself on a reflect mob during a tul breach
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>not running bisco's amulet
LEL

oh wait my reroll char won't be using it. fug
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>>173657485
>can't roll for the rhoa mount girl
fuck you op
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>>173661384
I am adding a Onslaught leaguestone to it
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bisco's should unironically be nerfed
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Is this worth anything? Baron memes would love it I guess.
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Is this worth anything? Flurry memes might want it as a budget option I guess.
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>>173664146
flurry meta is poison/phys
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>>173657485
rolling for kira
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>New skill category: Arcane
>Deals equal parts fire, cold and lightning damage
>Always critically strikes
>Can never apply status ailments
>Adds a large percent of your maximum mana as crit multiplyer
>Basic skills would be arcane bolt, with other skills potentially being things like an arcane beam that you charge up like a channeling skill but release all at once

Would it make Hierophant viable?
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>>173663447
Baron guy here, if it gains a 4th mod with corruption it might be really sweet. Right now its soso
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PC on this?

Seems BiS for some IIR hybrid builds i think
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>>173665304
HoWA is a flurry meme
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>>173665535
Its worth nothing at all
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>>173665420
seems extremely niche for inquis or elementalist
i think ggg doesnt want to make that kind of class specific skills
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>>173665535
>56 strength while in a breach
wtf that's more than a headhunter
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>>173665420
>Adds a large percent of your maximum mana as crit multiplyer

I don't think you thought this through because that would mean you gain a gorrilion% crit multi
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>>173665535
Is this a joke that I'm not getting?
No life / barely any es, no resists, no crit.
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>>173665869
There's no joke. Its just shitposters, shitposting.
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>>173665693
Why would you go blade flurry with howa
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>>173665420
terrible design
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>>173667006
not nearly as terribly designed as Hierophant though :^)
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>>173667085
not gonna disagree
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>>173667085
>What should the point of this ascendancy be?
>Totems
>Alright, but make sure to punish them for using totems!

meanwhile unga bunga chieftain gets infinite DPS for using totems
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>>173657485
does this game force-feed you story, i'm interested in playing something where i can just grind/do dungeons/whatever
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90% of the people playing it probably don't know the names of any of the NPCs
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niggers
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>>173667487
>does this game force-feed you story
It doesn not. You don't even need to to talk to nps who grant quest before doing them, just go pick up the quest item and report back.
A lof of people believe the story is garbage in this game and that nothing really makes sence plot wise dispite having played the game for years simply because they haven't actually listened to what the npc's have to say.
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>>173667487
top down arpgs are never about story, but grinding autism
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Is cutedog the most autistic streamer
Does he actually do anything other than running shaped strands 24/7 with his Vaal fireball character
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cutedog is just a more evolved human
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ok i guess he does do something else... crafting shavs to 6L and reselling them for more currency..
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i need a good support build

any good ones out there?
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why is fs so comfy
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>>173667487
>file deleted
Why?
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>>173669030
it was roll shit
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>>173669232
Who's the fucktard who reported that
Fuck you
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listen kid, let me give you a glimpse of how the real world works
i started out like you, with nothing, picked up transmutes and alterations to earn an honest buck
did i complain? no, i grinded 200 shaped strands an hour without a single (you). hard work is a motivation in itself, thats our motto here.
now im a path of exile kingpin with two mirrors stashed safely in my vault, i have loansharks left and right, you probably even "bought" some items or currency from them already, heh.

kid, i see potential in you. ive seen you trying to chisel those strands. imma give you a chance to prove youre worth more than just a funny name. how about this, you get three 42" monitors sent home to you and access to our private indexer coded by steve job himself. keep working hard and youll climb up the ranks in notime
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some reddit, as always
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yeah blade vortex
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>people are now running vaal fireball instead of vaal spark
wow, way to truly shake up the meta
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>sheep are running the current sheep build
wow
very surprise
much thinking
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woa a time traveler
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>>173667373
>>Alright, but make sure to punish them for using totems!
I hate them so much for this
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newest developer q&a
>Can tell us something about the "development history" of double dip mechanics (Poison and Ignite mostly)? Was it 100% intended, the result of some miscalculations from the design team, or some unpredicted behaviour of the game code?
>It was a consequence of how the calculations used to work. Many years ago when it was first noticed, it was seen as just a harmless quirk because it wasn't particularly overpowered. Over time, as more tools became available to players, it certainly became overpowered and was scheduled for an extensive refactor. Fixing it has been a lot of work but will be worth it.

meanwhile in 1.0.2 patch notes
>Previously, modifiers to damage dealt applied only to damage on hits unless they specifically said otherwise (for example, Increased Burning Damage).
>Generic modifiers to damage dealt will now apply to damage over time that your character causes. Damage over time is not spell damage, nor attack damage, so modifiers specific to those types will not apply. Non-specific "increased damage" modifiers will apply to damage over time. Type-specific modifiers will apply as well. For example, "increased fire damage" modifiers will apply to fire damage over time.

is chris such a retard, or is he intentionally trying to bullshit new players who don't remember this?
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What's this for?
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>>173671220
damn top autist detective work right there
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nugi has such a punchable face :3
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what's this worth, can't find the legacy version on market.
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>>173671920
200+ exa
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>>173672000
does anyone even have that much
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>>173671920
its near top roll you so can highball for twice the regular shaves price and see if someone bites
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>>173672293
some people have literal stacks of mirrors
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>>173672293
lol, people have way more than 200 exalts in legacy already. actually with that roll (close to max ES) id just put it up for 99999 mirrors right now considering theres none on the market, i woudlnt sell it though honestly, if you got this lucky.
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>>173672395
it's the only key ive gotten so far and I was gonna sell it too
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>>173672314
> twice the regular shaves

nice try scammer

>>173671920
dont listen to the above fag
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>>173671920
hmmm 1ex best i can do
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>>173672460
buy a lottery ticket
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>>173671489
some people think that maybe there's a secret recipe to get some ridiculously good result with albino roah feathers
but it's more likely it's just chris fucking with the community
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>>173672460
There are basically only two items that beat a good rolled legacy shavs in the game, legacy kaoms and perfectly rolled rares. You're gonna regret it if you sell it, 6-link it and use it instead nigga
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>>173672395
why keep it?

leagues are dying, and will be over soonish. best one can do with it is RMT it
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>instant whispers

fuck what price
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>>173672684
well, yeah, if that sort of thing interests you then sure. ive no idea if it would sell/what kind of real money that would fetch
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>>173672659
legacy kaoms is worthless holy shit kill yourself
>>173672709
don't settle for less than 200ex, its the BIS chestpiece
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>>173672709
Make the price 1 fully loyal witchfu

Legends say that only one drops per league
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>>173672796
I'll try 500
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>>173671220
Chris has been wrong about many things very frequently. I remember when some autist figured that warbands (i think) location was based on some unintuitive mapping from the merciless locations to some map layout and there was a tonne of proof and chris said this was wrong twice. Like a week later in the patch notes it says they fixed warbands accidentally using merc locations for their map locations. Also in some interview in 2.0 when talking about damage mitigation chris was arguing that damage mitigation was completely fine but when they brought up taste, which was basically required to play, chris was like "oh i don't know what that item is". You just can't trust the guy on any level, take everything he says with a grain of salt.
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>>173672845
They don't play their own game. We've known this forever
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>>173672796
>opnions
>facts

*sips life flask*
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>>173672845
remember the interview when ZiggyD asked chris what he would do about the Aleppo situation and chris said "what is Aleppo?"

that was fucking mind boggling holy shit

i mean come on chris
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>>173672845
now that we're talking about damage mitigation
did they finally fix armour not applying to projectiles?
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>>173672996
shoo shoo reddit shitter
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>>173672845
it is not at all uncommon for the high level players of a game to know more about the game than the devs

the devs spend their time making new shit not playing the old shit
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>>173671920
fuck I just want a Shavronne's in general.
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>>173673118
>LITERALLY defending them for not playing their own game
>THINKING chris is a "developer" on any level
>BEING this much of a retard
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>>173673118
Except you as a developer should know the most prevalent problems that plague your game. Imagine if chris said "lmao whats chaos inoculation" and "I didn't know ES could get that high."
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>>173673118
chris is hardly a dev, he's just a pr guy
so he should know things about the game
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>>173672659
what kind of character do you even use them with

i only start playing a month ago
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>>173673184
>>173673185
>>173673208
what they SHOULD do is have a list of competent, trusted players they can contact to discuss problems with the current version of the game

mr pr man only exists to spin things, he probably barely plays
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>>173673175
just use the esh shield dumbo
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>>173673118
He needs to stop pretending is all, or it needs to be known by all that he's full on retarded and can't even be trusted to relay information about mechanics that are seen as core knowledge by the majority of the vocal playerbase
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>>173673396
Thanks for reminding me of that abomination you fucking retard
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>>173673279
last time chris played the game he got raped by village ruin boss from a zana mission (because there's no way he could get to t12 by himself)
next patch zana stopped opening village ruin lmao
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>trying to buy these god damn mortem mosu gloves off poe.trade
>nobody replying
>none found in live search

I guess I'll do without
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Are there caps on any stats?
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So I played PoE on steam for about an hour a few years ago and haven't touched it since. Wanted to try to play it again, but when I tried to log in it kept saying this account was banned by admin. Did some gold farmer hack it and get it banned in those years or is it some other fuck up on the devs. Sent an email to support, but I'm not expecting a timely response. Anyone else run into this problem?
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>>173673279
No. Do not give streamcunts even MORE power over this game than they already do.

They need to have 3-5 devs that actually play the game,
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>>173673661
no
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>>173673713
>paying people to play the game
it'll never happen
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>>173673706
if you where in a guild of people who got canned for botting/hacking, you probably got a collateral ban

otherwise just make a new account
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>>173673923
reminder that they pay people to sit in the cesspool known as global and censor anything remotely hurtful
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>>173673945
I literally played solo without player interaction for 1 hour just to see what it was like. So I can't link a new account to steam? It would suck to redownload the game if I can't play the steam version on a diff account.
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>>173673661
There are soft caps of 75% on elemental resistances that can be raised through auras flasks and uniques.
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>>173674076
unlink that account to steam from your account settings on the poe website, then make a new account and link that to stream
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>>173674140
tried signing in on the website through steam option but it sends me to this screen. Nothing works on it. Keep clicking nothing happens.
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>>173674473
Also tried making a new account and linking it to steam and it says one is already linked to it.
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>>173674473
well if its fucked either make a forum post on the tech support section asking for help or just wait for someone to reply to you

the only other option is to download it outside steam but you said you dont wanna do that
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>>173674618
I guess I could just D/L it again. Can i still play with other steam players? It's shit like this that really turns off new players to any type of game.
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>>173674735
Regardless of whether you have the account linked with steam or not you can play with anyone
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>>173674735
steam/nonsteam servers are the same. steam account just let you use steambucks to buy shit, thats the only difference.

plus scroll up or check reddit and see how many have account trouble . hint: almost no one
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can you level super quickly with split arrow using a tabula and quill rain?

added cold + added lightning + wed + faster attacks/chain?
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>>173674928
no
quill rain pans out very quickly. use storm cloud instead, it can carry you to merciless
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>beat normal dominus on my first HC character

I know it's not much, but it's more than I've ever gotten
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>>173675063
sweet will do.
what links do you suggest? should i switch to tornado shot from split arrow when i meet the level req?
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>>173675334
assuming you are using tabula it would be skill+wed+fa+slower prog+added lightning+whatever else like gmp if you go for TS
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>tfw you have 6 identical gems in weapon swap
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can we discuss how fucking retarded item balance is?
>Doomfletch fated prohecy
>110% of phys gained as %EXTRA damage
>Storm cloud fated prophecy
>lol 100% increased lightning damage, enjoy
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>>173676560
forgot to add doomfletch is 110% Extra of EVERY element so a total of 330% EXTRA damage while tempest is only 100% inc lightning but it still gets more lightning damage in 1/3rd of its damage then an entire tempest bow
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>>173676639
Also do you need to have found the base unique or have it in your stash to be able to get the prophecy to upgrade it?
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>>173676713
No.
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>>173676639
Wasn't Doomfletch nerfed to have no elemental on the random third addition?
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>>173676560
>>173676639
AND NOT TO MENTION DOOMFLETCH PRISM HAS 20-24% WED ON THE IMPLICIT OF THE FUCKING BOW

REEEEEEE

It pisses me off so much, especially since doomfletch is 1.65 aps vs 1.95 aps so the damage difference is fucking insane, even if you only specialize into lightning damage

3.0 buffs when?
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>>173676851
Yeah it was nerfed, but it's still better than the other fated bow by a humongous margin
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>>173676560
>some items are better than others
no shit, retard, what kind of game do you think you are playing?
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>>173676851
wait what, it shows that on the wiki, yes but ingame the bows still drop with 330% extra damage with no penalty

>>173677028
Pull GGG's cock out of your mouth for a second anon


>A bow that increases only lightning damage
is shittier than
>A bow that multiplies physical damage into all three elements
That's a clearcut sign of "Im so fucking retarded I dont even play my own game"
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I enjoy theory crafting more than playing, is this hell?
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>>173677028
>the tempest is 160 edps (about 80 base dps, then 100% inc added)
>doomfletch prism is higher crit base, 20% WED, slightly less aps 352 combined dps

this is with NO added gear

guess which bow scales harder retard?
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>>173677279
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>some items are better than others

still not seeing your point
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>>173677279
>>173677608
>Tempest has less base damage
>Tempest scales much less
>Tempest cannot burn
>Tempest cannot freeze
>Tempest gains less lightning damage with investment despite being that items entire gimmick
>Tempest Has less crit
>>173677625
balance your game you fat fuck
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>>173651883
Please respond and gib advice
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I just realized glacial cascade is the same as Sunder just elemental.

Anyway I'm going to make a glacial cascade phys to lightning and cold to fire, don't stop me this is my only enjoyment
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>being retarded is my only enjoyment
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this game is fucking dead st op posting here
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welp guys i died leveling my 4th character this league at 64. fucking 64
its over, poe is finished
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>suffering from being burnt out, want to delete myself the more I play
>enjoy making retarded theorycrafts, even if they don't work it's still fun to try out
Call me a retard, but at least I'm a happy little retard
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>>173678346
I'm in the same boat except I'm past the point of poorfag theorycrafts

I can't afford the current builds I'm coming up with
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>>173677279
>>173677701
>tempest can be used 8 levels earlier
>with minimal gear investment aka while leveling, tempest performs better

WOW who woulda thunk???? next you're going to complain about wideswing having less dps than disfavor
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>>173679271

>>with minimal gear investment aka while leveling, tempest performs better
no it doesn't anon

you're only real argument is "lol u can use it 8 levels early"
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what keeps you going when you hit 24 challenges / level 90?
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money PoE costs to play: $0
balaced gameplay you are owed for: none

time to stop complaining
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>>173680325
You don't have to pay to suck my cock but you'll still do it right, eh?
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>>173680325
please tell me this is a trap
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Breach league ruined this game for me.

Breach was literally fun until the end. Not a single map was dull because every single one allowed you to partake in at least one instance of total mayhem and the pinnacle of what this game is about: total bloodbaths

I legit can't go back to "le single boss per area" or "le regular mobs, slightly modified" after this. I have no idea how they'll top it. This league has literally 1/10th of Breach that has to drop to be able to use and already i'm disgusted by it.
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>>173680532
>Play BF gladiator with hemophilia
>Open a breach
>RMB
>Screen freezes
>Incredibly loud *SPLAT*
>Breach rares instantly deleted

going to be so fucking sad when this is gone
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Whats the likelihood of someone level 72 playing a SSF mortem specthrow build can do non-uber atziri? Ive never done it before but im watching some guides online

Ive got 6200 ES, and fucking insane singletarget with slower proj but im guessing that will be too difficult to use and ill need range. Tooltip is like 3500 dps but its all on the back end of poison\bleed of assassin
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>>173680273
the fact that 24 is 16 short of 40
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>>173680532
>>173680691
do you lads think they'll ever "revisit" community favourite leagues? like maybe they'll do breach league 2.0 with new shard types and stuff... right??? it could happen!?? right???

>>173680797
if you're a softcore babby you'll be fine
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>>173680532
>double beyond breach is forever gone
>current breaches are a shadow of their former selves
>breaches not implemented into base game
>breach leaguestones are rare
>breach leaguestones that give you more than one breach are ridiculously rare
>breach shards were made scarcer too
>breachstones are a BITCH to get now because of the above
>howaa is getting nerfed next league so the only one worth doing is chayula
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>>173680987
pretty much hit the nail on the head, except that xoph is worth it too
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>>173681035
i don't know about that, ignite dipping is getting fucked too
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only small children with abnormally small brains think breach was fun
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>>173681112
Breach was the only league where the risk was worth the reward. Every other league was either A. Forced, I.E. Beyond, B. F R E E S T U F F ? ? ? ? with a based jewish cunt handing you free leggos, or C. They were 100% skippable and not even worth doing.

Breach even made leveling easier because they dropped breach rings like candy which usually padded you out for a while.
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>>173681095
I meant the amulet
It's good even if you're not relying on ignites
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Breach will be implemented in the main game you retards
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>>173681338
>Xbone
>Being able to handle more than 3 enemies on the screen at once

lmao no

breaches are being removed, have fun nigger

t.Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games
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3.0 will fix all performance issues tho
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>>173681525
>somewhere on this planet, there is someone who actually believes this
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>>173681525
haha nice try senpai but as of right now PoE is perfectly optimized. any issues you may have are purely from your ISP
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>>173680890
>>173680797
well i couldnt get past the second boss room
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about to start playing

what to expect?
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>>173682425
being lost as fuck, but its fun

your first character will be ass, even if you read guides
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i was top 10 even when i began playing
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>i was top 10 when the playerbase was less than 11 players
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>>173682584
I remember when everyone wanted into the beta, constant threads on /v/

One day someone who knew chris came in and dropped a key, so many people tried it at once, near instantly, that it let all of us in.

This was way, way, way back. The act 2 boss wasn't even implemented yet. Me and a couple other assholes actually managed to get top 1-5 on the ladder and my build was literally all damage sword duelist using something like fucking cleave because it was one of the few skills in the game.

Good times.
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why did they ruin the game old frog
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Probably to reach for more players. Most casuals and normies were playing D3 at the time. Most casuals I tried to convince to play PoE back in the day hated PoE because it wasn't as graphically pleasing and the movement felt clunky. The "gotta-go-fast" meta appeals better to D3 players than the previous playstyle.
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is enduring cry good with ZO?

playing a necro guardian with deidbellow but i can't pick a warcry to use
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you were never good at the game, shitter

the fact that you can't keep up with all the "casuals" nowadays is proof enough
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>open about 20 keys
>best I got was divine flask and aegis shield
goodby poeg

here's your (you)
>>
nothing of value was lost this day
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How do people get apply a crafted mod to an item that already has that mod? I frequently see items up for sale that have %ES and then %ES as the crafted stat.
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>>173686282
Its a hybrid es+stun recovery mod. Its separate from the %es
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>>173685812
>open 1 key
>get shavs

thank you based gggod
>>
At what point do I start grabbing rares in hopes of finding something valuable?
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are skele mages any good?

using with a spell totem they seem to get replaced before even doing anything
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>>173687669
Skeletons are only good as a meatshield, theyre strictly inferior to SRS or AW for instance
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>>173687157
>grabbing rares
>in hopes of finding something valuable
First of all, you need to narrow your search. You cant just grab everything and ID them. For me, I grab all accessories(rings, ammys, belts). Good ones can sell nicely and the shit ones go in my vendor recipe tab. Rings and ammys are pretty rare so always picking them is a good idea. The other things that I pick up are pure ES body armours and spirit shields.

After that is just personal preference. You can probably let your filter show a bunch of the high lvl base items(but arent mentioned above) like Bone Helmets and those gloves with implicits
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>>173688416
I'm using NeverSink's on Strict. I know ES items tend to be more valuable, I'm just not sure when the highest tier mods become available. Seems like almost everything I see on poe.trade is 80+
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I'm starting to think slayer is lacking in the damage department
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>>173688580
Tier 1 rolls are ilvl 84 but that doesnt stop an item to be good with t2 rolls
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how do i
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just fucking google it retard
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holy fucking shit that ED exile almost got me

no more anarchy stones while leveling lol
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Pls rate muh build bros
poeurl.com/bgei
2hand sword crit cyclone
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>run t16 vaal temple
>barely any higher exp/hour than t11 strand
I see.. so this is the risk/reward of end game PoE... not bad..
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>Saboteur is a trash ascendan-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeg98FjNKjk
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> >>>>173693129
> not bad..
So are you level 100 yet?
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>clears a linear map in 5 minutes
ebic build indeed
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>>173693245
Everyone knows mines do good damage, theyre retarded to use tho
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>>173693465
pretty sure any skill with autotargeting and autopiercing clears any map in 5 minutes, you just don't happen to shape something like malformation

are you retarded?
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my point is 5 minutes is slow as fuck, autismo
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>>173693465
>running non-linear maps
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no it's not when it includes a breach (min +1 minute) and beyond
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>beyond lowers his clearspeed
nice build
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record your 2 min t15 clear or shut up
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I stopped running beyond leaguestone jsut because of that fucking ice spamming boss.
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Anyone on legacy shitcrow want to buy some of the less popular leaguestones? None of these are level capped
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Leaguestones need to not be corrupted. I don't care how OP it'd be, I'd gladly sink the alts into some of this shit.
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>>173695652
GGG is obviously testing this as a replace for old Zana mods.
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>>173677124
>>173677279
Items
Aren't
Supposed
To Be
Balanced
You
Fucking
Retard
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>>173695810
I hope they go with it because it's a good concept, but the corruption is stupid given how rarely they drop. Hell, make them rare tier and boom chaos sink
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>>173695501
got any good essence of warband stones? trying to get the leaders and corrupted essences done
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>>173696628
2 ample, 1 echoes for essence. Guaranteed boss one for warbands.
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>>173696465
or at least up the chance of them being magic.
Also, they teased rare/unique leaguestones (if they implement them; though I don't think they gonna do it at 3.0 launch at least as it may "distract" from the new acts)
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I really want to use a Ylfeban's but the likelihood of ever self-enchanting something useful is out of the question so I guess I'm stuck with just rolling pre-enchanted Hubrises because uber enchants are too good to give up on
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>>173697909
Imagine a unique breachstone that works like the monstrous treasure prophecy: map has no mobs and is instead littered with breaches
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>>173698112
A Nemesis leaguestone where all Nemesis mobs have Inner Treasure
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should a shield build ever not use shield charge for movement?

i'm still low lvl but warp feels awful. does it get much better with decay/less dur?
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legacy weapon effect is shite desu
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>>173698932
Warp is only for hopping over obstacles or cast when channeling
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>>173699048
All of the rewards are ass
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is it true they disabled double beyonding?
I've run multiple and I'm not sure, probably could be the case.
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>>173699343
I've run it a couple of times, you can clearly see it listed twice in the map mods, but there's no discernible difference as far as I can tell
Which means white beyond stones are pretty much useless since you can just add it on top of 3 other different leaguestones
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>>173698932
Lightning Warp and Flame Dash are pretty much always bad. Shield Charge > Whirling Blades > Leap Slam > the rest
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>>173700008
i'd rather spend a leaguestone than 3 chaos
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>>173700331
I'm guessing you don't farm guardian maps with 4 added monsters sextant mods and 20%+ pack size
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champ or guardian for baron vaal pact?
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>>173700578
no, i don't
a lot of players don't
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ripped my srs dude in ssf, really hated the playstyle

i have a bringer of rain and an ok-rolled pair of facebreakers, thinking of going shield charge slayer. no meginord's though, anyone have any experience chancing it?
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>>173693245
that same build could be done better as assasin or occultist
but its a softcore build so optimization is not necesary, hence sabot
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>>173701147
meginord's if fairly common, don't waste your chances unless you absolutely have to

there's also the unique belt div card that is heavily weighted towards low level belts like wurm's, deceiver and meginord's
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>>173700585
Scion (champ - guard)
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>>173701328

that only drops in mid-tier maps though, i was thinking of just chancing heavy belts as i pick them up while leveling

do you mean 'waste' as in like, consider the value of chances if i get bored and migrate back to regular lhc, or 'waste' as in chances are useful for other things in ssf? i can't imagine what else i'd be using them on short of playing the headhunter lottery
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how hard is this content? havent done it before
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>>173701550
I use chances on maps or convert them into scourings (4:1 ratio at vendors, 96:30 at catarina's daily deal) but if you don't have any immediate use of them, sure chance some belts, worst case you end up with a belt of the deceiver and that's still as good, if not better (intimidate = 10 more damage essentially)
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>>173701561
in comparison to something like guardians its basically the equivalent of beating up a small child

that is to say, very easy
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>>173701561
Theyre a massive joke for a build that can tie its shoes
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>>173701561
extremely easy except for a book of shocking ground vaal spark that will pseudo one-shot you if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time

bring a (topaz) flask of grounding and keep an eye for the exploding book, bosses go down in seconds, it's just the book from inya that will kill you

I've nearly lost a 7k life character in there the first time in prophecy because I went in blind
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>>173701561
>b/o 1 alch
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>>173702026
>>173702036
>>173702124
alright thanks
>>173702147
I dont know what else to do with <t10 maps, chisel recipes aside
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Planning on doing an Essence Drain build, what would be some necessary budget uniques I can grab for as I level?
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>>173702253
tabula
consuming dark
brinerot whalers if you're es based

that's it
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>>173702305
Would ES from the getgo be viable, like how soon would I spec into CI?
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>>173702702
if you have prebought gear, an early switch at level 70 is possible
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>>173702702
if you play shitcore, you can do es early. it doesnt matter
if you play mancore, you want to switch to es only once you have your gear and enough nodes to have a healthy es pool
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>Make a sabo
>get 10 jewel slots
>get 10 unstable payload (Traps trigger an additional time 8-12%)
>have 100% additional trigger chance
>they dont actually trigger twice
>they just rearm and they get destroyed, and they dont work with clever construction

fucking why
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you're not very intelligent are you
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How many Death's Doors have you dropped today, /vg/?
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this is the best rolled item i have ever had drop

why couldn't i have been lucky on an item that was better than this
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>>173703243
hey chris
if you want it to rearm traps, at least make another jewel for it and give us double exploding traps you nigger
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>>173703380
who the fuck looks at this and go "oh okay so the traps die, respawn and arm themselves for them to be stepped on an additional time"

just when I thought traps had something cool
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>>173703380
>>173703201
it's literally unusable in any situation where monsters are actually actively engaging in combat, because surprise surprise unstable payload is actually a requirement for traps to not play like shit.

In the case of Tremor Rod when mines rearm they are still immune to damage, fuck your shit GGG
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>hey Chris
hey reddit
>>
https://clips.twitch
.tv/HungryAcceptableOcelotOMGScoots
kek
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>>173702768
Well I already have a Tabula and the rest isn't very expensive, plus I have an existing character I can fund with, so I might go with that.
>>173703076
I haven't played in forever and the last time I played HC was when desyncs were still a prevalent thing and I ripped my ST Scion to Oversoul after a desync.
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hey guys it's mathil here once aGAIN
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>linking twitch streemors XD
>Being a fucking subhuman

Pick both my man.
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>>173705049
i pick nothing grandpa. twitch is so important that even PewDiePew is using it now and you are retarded if you cant see how relevant that makes Twitch for all of us
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>>173704909
based
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>twitch
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>I don't look at twitch streams because I'm a grown up!
said the 12-year-old
>>
twitch lost its appeal when it got rid of blatant camwhores
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>>173705141
>the guy who pissed away his ad revenue by being an edgy retard has to beg for twitch currency to avoid working at the fish docks like the otherwise useless Swede he is

Shock
>>
peddle pie is outnumbered guy now so you better watch your words
>>
What do elemental trappers use for singletarget?
I specifically say elemental because I'm not using bladefall or anything like that, all ele nodes
>>
flame surge conc effect
>>
https://youtu.be/RORDNjWBT6c
>Trappers make a good skill and turn it bad
>>
>LSC
not going to watch a shitcrow video
>>
>>173707382
That was a good powerpoint presentation
>>
do you want another vacation
because thats how you get another vacation
>>
life and mana flask effects just need to not stop when the respective pool is full at this point
>>
retarded_wilson is ridiculously efficient
on his 4th or 5th top 20 character...
>>
Who is retarded_wilson?
>>
our guy who died at rank 2 ssfhc
>>
some autismo who sits on /poeg/ and plays a lot
a worse version of steyox, if you will
>>
i wonder if he's ever insulted my build and called me a retard :3
>>
steyox is reddit's guy
fuck that cheating cunt
>>
steyox is literally our guy
someone who doesn't frequent /poeg/ wouldn't have the levels of autism required to unironically grind dried lake to 100
>>
he's reddit guy because he's constantly fishing for karma
>>
What if Reddit chose their champion an /poeg/ chose their champion and they have to get to lvl 100 in ssfhc in least time possible? Who would win?
>>
time to sell exalts
>>
fishing for karma is no different from fishing for (You)s
>>
Steel is reddit's champion and he has beaten poeg's champion by large margin

we'll always be second rate losers
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>caring this much about what some autismlords """"achieve"""
hey r*ddit
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forgot your cat picture
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I opened strongbox before realising it's diviner's.
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>>173668540
using firestorm with inc.aoe is really bad idea, you lower your dps by a lot
>>
do you want me to open your strongbox
>>
exalts fucking nosediving
can't sell mine
fuck
shit
>>
do you fucking idiots even talk about the game any more?
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>>173710132
>he didnt sell his yesterday
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>>173710132
>its true
wew lad
what trigger this
they were 107 i last looked a few hours ago now they're dipping under 100
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nigger
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>>173710112
that doesnt have inc aoe tho
>>
babby's first bubble burst
>>
ill burst ur fuckin bubble butt retard
>>
>>173710223
we talk about the game every day, fag

anyone else want to be smothered by scion's thicc thighs
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>>173710282
i think it's league halfway mark
exalts are more plentiful
rare items more plentiful
economy balancing out

will probably drop to around 50
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>>173710132
>mfw sold exalts for fuses when they were 1:110c
>mfw fuses are getting more expensive in relation to chaos
>>
nice spear
>>
glacial hammer or infernal blow?
>>
>>173711282
glacial hammer because meme
>>
>>173711412
is it bad?
im new and just sort of deciding on a skill to build around
these two seem good
>>
*cracks open a cold one*
*opens bakedchicken's stream*
ah yes... tuesdays..
>>
its taking me around 12 hours to get to merciless dried lake as a srs necromancer on SSF HC, how bad am I??
>>
very
>>
>>173711452
if you really want to play melee, build sunder or lacerate
>>
extremely
>>
>>173711452
you should be prepared to put your first character down like a beloved dog that got too old eventually

keep that in mind
>>
>>173711814
>>173711762
ok well ill try that out thanks
>>
>run 50 chayula domains
>not on a loss
dodged a bullet there
>>
>>173711946
teach me your ways
>>
Is there a good build creation basics and leveling guide? I'm at the point where I'd rather build something myself than rip something crappy and inefficient from somewhere else
>>
>>173713374
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7GqFLebBU8inlrcqTZFXtIwP362XrdNe
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>>173713374
but most of the builds the streamers play are very efficient and cheap builds
heck, havoc just posted a video of him doing a very simple flameblast totem build in ssfhc, taking 6 hours to get to lvl 70
>>
rather kiss myself than ever play flamecuck
>>
>ssfhc, taking 6 hours to get to lvl 70
which means absolutely nothing in the long run
you don't need to optimize for end game if you stay in dried lake
>>
dried lake is the end game
>>
>>173713704
erm...what...?
>>
your current rank in ssfhc?
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>>173713704
being one of the top players in this game, i can honestly say there is no reason to ever leave dried lake
>>
>>173713825
you don't optimize the same way for level 1-40 as level 1-70
you don't optimize the same way for level 1-70 as level 1-100

otherwise builds like bladefall totems would be t1
the fact you can't understand this means you're probably fucking retarded
>>
>>173713960
my friend....do you even know this little thing called respec points?
no, I guess you'll play CI HoWA as soon as you can get to chos inoculation at around lvl 25, right?
>>
>>173714160
so your gimmicky build that you use for 1-70 doesn't matter in the long run, since you spec out of it eventually, which is my point

in another words, you have given no valuable informations regarding "very efficient and cheap builds" or by your logic bladefall totems is an "efficient and cheap build*" (* until you leave dried lake)

good job on agreeing with me, retard
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Why are sanctified and divine mana flasks so useless?
>>
How do I unlock some maps?

I can only get bazaar/shipyard maps, most maps on the right don't drop at all. I've been running oasis and they don't drop.
>>
>>173714594
buy them and complete them ya dumb tardo
>>
RTFW
>>
>>173714337
jesus....you are not going to use 120 orbs of regret to respec into your mlg tip top efficiency builds.
you are going to choose a skill that is relatively close to what you'll be eventually doing.
and that strategy is much more efficient than trying to optimize a lvl 95 character, starting from lvl 1 onwards, specially if you want to play a hardcore league.
>>
>>173714693
How do other players get them then?
>>
>>173714850
run maps adjacent to the ones you want to unlock.
item quantity makes this process faster, item rarity does not (unless you want to unlock a unique map).
>>
>>173714753
let's go back to the genesis of this discussion
>>173713374
doesn't want you to spoonfeed him the optimal 1-70 builds because that shit doesn't matter for what he's looking for: an actual build, not an attempt at the fast level 1-70 you fucking dumbo

give him resources for actual builds if you want to help him, then he can look to optimize 1-70 if he wants to, saying "havoc got to 70 with this flameblast totem build! it's the best" is completely useless information since havoc wasn't going for an actual build but a speedrun from 1 to 70 there nor would every build benefit from going flameblast totems in the first place unless they were starting templar

FUCK OFF you illiterate twat
>>
When should I start buying items? I'm in act4 of cruel and when grouping with other players (even several levels below me) they seem to be clearing mobs much much faster, also my lightning res is worryingly low.
>>
>>173714850
the same way some people get a billion quays and zero crypt maps

while other gets a million crypt maps and no quays
>>
Does the added Elemental damage from your Elementalist's ascendancy points apply to your golems as well?
>>
are your golems you
>>
>>173715181
level 1
>>
>When should I start buying items?
You need to go back
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc scion
>>
>>173715683
Poison Barrage w/ voltaxic as pathfinder.
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc pathfinder
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc hierophant
>>
>>173715683
whispering ice raider
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc occultist
>>
>>173715683
LIGHTNING WARP TOTEM
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc champion
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc necro
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc ascendant
>>
>>173715683
wither cwc poison arc berserker
>>
>>173715130
what a heated discussion.
I was just trying to make a point that he can take good examples from watching a lot of popular streamers with regards to building and game mechanics, its how most players first start to learn a game, and for good reason.

aside from that, >>173713485 is a pretty good playlist indeed.

what I can recommend is mostly how I learned the game, and that is the following process:
1. look on the forums, the ladders, and pretty much anywhere else for interesting builds.
2. choose a build from that list of possible ones.
3. compare many different approaches to it.
4. be realistic about how much I want to play this build (you wont play all the builds you make up to lvl 93 or beyond).
5. use an offline planner https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases to adjust the build to my needs and preferences.
6. continually discuss on the forums about potential changes to the build and read up on other player's experiences with them.


So yea, learn first by doing, then by thinking up on the things that you did right and wrong, and making them better next time.

Furthermore:
-a l w a y s check the wiki http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
-Remember that most builds on the ladders these past leagues are optimized to run 500 shaped strands in an hour instead of progressing through atlas (a lot of players find that boring, so do I).
-and I think it goes withouth saying that you should always check the possible price of your build before doing it http://poe.trade/
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>>173715683
facebreaker cyclone
>>
>>173716240
fuck you, now I want to play that.
>>
>>173715683
baron queen's escape scion
>>
>>173715683
Cyclone hiltless cwdt any combination of skill (at least 7) you want any ascendancy
>>
>>173715683
blade vortex pathfinder
>>
>>173715683
3 dragons ball lightning scion
>>
>>173715683
ci vaal fireball
>>
>>173715683
magicfinder golemancer elementalist
>>
>>173715683
voltaxic phys 2 light siege ballista raider
>>
>>173715683
eq deadeye
>>
>>173715683
vaal ice nova
>>
>>173715683
uul netol cyclone necro
>>
1's are rare as FUCK
>>
god dammit
>>
>>173717369
but you's are en vogue these days.
>>173715683
fucking vaal ice nova
>>
>>173715683
srs bleed gladiator
>>
>>173715683
EB MOM EK Scion
>>
>>173715683
this is getting fucking silly

MF GOLEM ELEMENTALIST
>>
>>173715683
vaal fireball
>>
>>173717491
>>173717531
THAT IS A NOT A BUILD
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>>173717715
>>
>>173717715
punk ass BITCH
>>
>>173717715
srs auramancer with 12 auras minimum, zealoth's oath and iron reflexes
>>
>>173717715
max block varunastra wild strike gladiator.
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>>173717715
vaal fireball
>>
>>173717715
Fucking kinetic blast poison bleed mines assassin.
>>
>>173717715
mf golem ele
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>>173718141
B A S E D
>>
>>173718262
cuck nigger
>>
the amount of trash, unoptimized builds posted in official forums (specially for shadow) is massive
>>
>>173718341
play >>173718141
>>
I'm well versed in this game to make my own builds
I just feel bad for newbies following trash like /view-thread/1769788 sinking huge amounts of currency in a trash build and then have no idea why they can't "delete" shaper/guardians
>>
>>173705228
jesus christ i would fuck the shit out of femthil while she theory-craft some builds
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>>173720261
What's trash about this build exactly?
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>>173720789

everything?

>dual wield for no reason
>doryanis for no reason
>hatred/ash for no reason
>using scourge for "double dipping" but not picking double dipping nodes just generic attack nodes (which don't double dip)
>melee phys gem which doesn't double dip/no added chaos damage
>no flat phys on rings
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>>173718341
>looking at builds
>videos section
>highest map is a t10 or 11 not even being cleared that fast
>"I haven't gone any higher or killed any guardians/shaper/uber but if the build can do it I'll post it"
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>import one of those 10k mil DPS!!11 builds to pob
>set "are you fightning a boss?" to shaper/guardians
>9k dps
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>>173721410
Why don't you try it out in path of building friend
Added doesn't do shit when most of your damage comes from poison
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>>173721909
>some shitter bragging about big ass number in PoB
>not vs shaper/guardians
>put together a viperstrike assassing with 3 billion poison dps
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>>173722095

found the author
your build is shit
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>tfw I only follow builds from memers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1t6ErYOzdY

Even fucking mathil is better than forum guide
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>>173722459
>crosses shaper laser wthout losing any hp
ah yes, vaal pact
>>
>Wanted to complete my atlas
>Realize I have a stash tab filled to the brim with tier 11 and tier 12 maps that are absolutely fucking terrible because of their layout that I don't want to run

God fucking damn, first league actually playing with the atlas.

Should I uncomplete and succumb to the strand meme?
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>>173722459

god I love those memey videos
they're so trash yet more interesting than "super serious shaper kill"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XbbGN8W1XE
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>>173723057
Do you enjoy suffering shit layouts?
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>>173723057
nigga merge them to make proper t13+ ones
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>>173723237
jesus christ
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>>173723292
No, not at all.
>>173723297
Not sure if I want to run those, thought about just selling them to be honest family member.
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>>173723443
If you can muster the autism to run the same layout till the league ends then go right ahead. Its better than running anything else shore works too
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>>173722459
Not pictured: Shit clearspeed
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>>173723443
try running something like this >>173661206
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>>173723443
you can try depending on the map. I got excavation for a while because of the orb and been selling them at the start of the league. After 2 week I stopped getting whisp for them so I removed Excavation from my atlas. Depends on the map. I keep selling Temple for some reason. I just keep one in my selling tab and the rest in some yellow map tab.
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>>173723569
>Every build must be CoC Discharge clear peed.
but yeah.
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>>173723569
it is in fact pictured
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>>173723598
Looks like something any meta build will faceroll desu fuck beyond tho, laggy fuckers
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>>173723562
You don't even know about my autism man.
>>173723598
Did something similar with 50 packsize due to tripple curse an hour ago or so. Hated every minute of it.
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>>173724012
>having A N Y global open
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>>173724053
Then go right ahead. I farmed about 800 maps this league and at least 6000 map tiers during breach in pure strands
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>>173724012

>saving a screenshot of global chat and posting it on 4chan to start an NA vs EU debate
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>>173724252
Do you keep something like vault completed or do you only run strand?
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>>173724012
and the sad part is that's probably 820
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>>173724505
Strands and occasional dunes. No t12s and 1 shaper t13
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>>173724770
nice falseflag amerishart
go clean your pants
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TFW too stupid to make a double-dipping build
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>>173725158
Then copy someone elses dumbass
>>
don't call her a dumbass
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>>173725158

copy mine
https://p.teknik.io/X6jZU
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>Melee
>Life

WHY WHY WHY

WHY DO I KEEP DOING THIS

WHY DO I KEEP MYSELF POOR AND UNABLE TO FACEROLL ENDGAME
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>>173726306
>make 2nd char this league
>clears well but keep getting chunked hard or just straight ones hot
>reroll howa
best decision i made
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>>173726306
just play max block
>>
>find 3 reliq keys today
>pedandus blazon
>that shit ice staff
>kaoms sign
Literally 150c down the drain lmao
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>>173726306
lead sprinklers u reta
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>>173726864
the not knowing would have eaten at u tho
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>>173726864
Only a bitch ass nigga will sell a key
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>>173727528
I've found my second key a few days back and I'm on the edge of just opening it.

Does the level of your character opening the key have any affect on the drops (iLvl or some shit)?
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>>173727770
no.
99% of the items are shit though
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>>173720673
voice is the same
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*opens map tab*
ah yes... think i'll do some endgame content today..
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>>173732091
>t11
>endgame
kek
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>>173733570
>t11 map is more profitable and better exp and safer than running t16
kek
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>>173734095
Better exp and safer makes sense since its easier to run (you die less, enemies have less health, etc.)

The real problem is the risk to reward ratio that doesn't work. True endgame items should drop later on only. Just like those found in uber Atziri or Shaper, they should do the same for each tier of map beyond t10. Basically like the loot system in diablo2.
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>>173734373
>True endgame items should drop later on only.
Okay. But hold up anon.

"True endgame" Items are 99% shit

The only nonshit "super rare" items include stuff like acuity, disfavor.

Shit like voidbattery, montreguls sceptre, etc are all garbage
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>>173734675
I agree, they should review that as-well.
>>
How much time/effort does it take to get a leo7 hideout?
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>>173734928
too much
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Its over, poe is finished how can it even compete. 5% chance guys, FIVE
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>Voltaxic is shit now
>Void battery is shit (Because you can't shieldcharge, whirling blades)
>Montreguls doesn't fix zombies
>Unique chests that are not Tawm's, Shavs or cospris, qotf are worthless
>Disparity between Life and ES is much too huge even at a budget standpoint

>Casters cannot utilize their FCR to move around thanks to the arbitrary cooldown set onto flamedash, lightning warp is unusable even with the 3link (Faster cast, Less duration), even the lab enchant still wont let it match up to shieldcharge/whirling blades

>AOE wrongfully nerfed, while projectiles pierce and hit multiple screens with no investment

>No reason to go above t11 shaped strand even with exp penalty

>PVP continues to have no support, pvp continues to be dead
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>>173736312
>>Montreguls doesn't fix zombies
I'm running it with The Baron and 1200 and I'm trashing maps up to T15 so far. The AoE is fantastic.
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>Vaal fireball/vaal spark strands are literally diablo 3 incarnate
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>>173736502
1200 str Baron and Montreguls still doesn't let you keep up animate weapon, srs or golems
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>>173736643
I'm using SRS as-well
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it's always been quicker to do mid level maps than high level maps

the tradeoff is mid maps are boring as fuck
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>>173732091
They really need to address the fucked up efficiency/safety balance with higher tier maps. There's really no reason (besides variety/fun at a large cost to efficiency(nice game)) to run or unlock almost any natural t11-13. Maybe something like scaling implicit iiq/iir for shit layouts or insane packsize or whatever, or if that's too much maybe just take a massive dump on certain shaped maps.
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>>173737371
or
wait
anon
wait
heres
a
crazy idea
make
the
amount
of
enemies
per
map
scale
with
tier
holy shit
what a fucking great idea
>>
>Act 4 release
>LITERALLY no good spectres

I have no hope for 3.0
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>>173737371
BUT
WAIT THERES MORE

WHAT IF THERE WAS AN INCENTIVE TO DO HARDER MAPS EARLIER THAN USUAL?
IT SHOULDNT BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO FARM FUCKING DRIED LAKES TILL 80 TO START MAPPING
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>>173737853
Revenants were OP at first.
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>>173738114
>Better shit on spectres
>Wouldn't want them to be able to compete with srs, aw or golems NOW WOULD WE
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>>173737716
That doesn't fix the problem, unless the shaped maps had and retained shit density.
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>>173738643
>t11 maps untouched
>t16 maps have double the mobs of t11 maps
More challenge
More exp
Less strand vaal fireball faggotry
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>>173738425
Didn't they recently talk about their intention to make minions or at least spectres last through sessions?

Should only take a few years.
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>>173738425
They were nerfed because the base mob was killing too many people in maps. They got nerfed again with the overall act 4 nerf as well.
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>RF demon spectres will never melt through everything again
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>>173738886
Yeah it's likely to come with 3.0.0.
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>Buys a decent Shavronne's Wrappings for 3 exalts.
>A few days later a near perfect roll Shavronne's Wrappings drop

How many of you got the feeling you wasted some currency because of sudden drops?
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>>173681525
Skeleties Queen Build here:
Yeah they will reduce the numbers of minions to 10 per type (No more skeleties army) and buff their dmg. So sure there will be no more Performance problems when your summoner community will leaves the game.
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>>173740074
so sell one nigga
back to square 1
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>>173740290
>thinks xbone can handle 10 per type

3 per type at most
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>>173740341
But the one I brought was a 6 socket 5L with 4 off color
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>>173740375
Stop please, i want to believe there is still PC gaming in the world!
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>>173738773
I understand what you mean, and it's not a horrible idea at least at face value, but it doesn't completely address the problem I was talking about, the massive disparity in map efficiency for large chunks of the Atlas, which in its current state leaves whole tiers irrelevant because of shaping. i.e. even if everyone pushed for t14-16 sustain, shaped x would still be the thing for t11-13.

If there was a comparable or slightly better non-shaped t11-13, it would still be worse because you'd be burdened with unwanted connected maps.
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only took 5 weeks and 1200+ maps

im_glad_it's_over.jpg
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fuck this retarded game so much

The way it's "Balanced" Is so fucking ass-backwards


>1500 fucking str
>gives 750 flat health
>Level 100 gives you only 1200 health
>1500 flat health
>increases on tree are mediocre
>cannot roll %inc life on rares


>1500 fucking int
>gives 300% increased energy shield
>can get MUCH more base energy shield from items
>Theres a jewel that converts %inc life into %inc es and flat %es
>Theres even an aura that gives you more flat hp than 1500 strength can give you
>can roll 20% es on rings and amulet
>can use a weapon that gives you 50% es

Why?
Why why why why why? Why is it so retarded? Why is it so skewed?
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>>173741187
Point per point, life is stronger than ES
Reminder that a 10k+ life Berserker with a target to leech is effectively immortal
>>
What's something fun to link in the broken crown for pvp? I'm close to decapitating myself
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>>173741268
What a retarded post.
A 10k es character with vaal pact (Which berserker also needs) is much more obtainable than a 10k life character
The screenshot I posted had at least 70 life on every piece of gear minus the helmet
170 hp on the shield (Lioneyes remorse)
a rare chest with life on it
and I didn't break 8.2k life with 1500 fucking strength anon.

Do not sit there and bullshit me with your retarded shit

ES is beyond fucked
>>
Not to mention vaal pact is still gated by 20% of your maximum health

i.e you can only leech a maximum of 2k per hit with 10k health regardless of the amount of leech you have or how much more damage you do
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>>173741123
I know that feel. For me its warband, I'm even buying warlord's leaguestone now at 10 chaos a piece.
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>>173741268
>Point per point, life is stronger than ES
I closed beta, yes. Now that we have ZO, VP and insane unique utility flasks, ES is point for point just blue life.
And VP negates any need for any kind of layered defense.
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>>173741518
>A 10k es character with vaal pact (Which berserker also needs) is much more obtainable than a 10k life character
No one denies that, the point you made (ES can reach higher amount of ehp than life) didn't convey that however. In an hypothetical universe, if 1 point of life was worth 2 point of ES due to whatever mechanic, then it would be completely fine for life builds to have a soft cap of 10k while ES builds can reach 20k. To point out that ES have so many ways to scale their ehp as if that's the core issue in itself is missing the point; the whole point of CI is to reach a buffer that would typically not be available for life builds.
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>>173742726
>the whole point of CI is to reach a buffer that would typically not be available for life builds.
yeah except even without the More modifier behind CI, low life still surpasses life in EHP
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>>173741709
>Not to mention vaal pact is still gated by 20% of your maximum health
... no it is not. Are you baiting or that clueless? VP is INSTANT leech; it literally says the cap is removed. There's no "cap" to something that is instantaneous. The game doesn't check for your maximum hp/5, it calculates leech amount and applies it instantly. As mentioned previously, VP Berserkers with a target to leech on are effectively immortal, that's the entire strength of Cloaked in Savagery.
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>>173742992
No anon, it's still gated because 2% of a fuckton of dps is still more than 10k you fucking retard
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>retards thinking 100% life leech matters when 2% is enough to instantly heal with vp
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>>173743098
VP is not capped by 20% of your hp, stop backpedaling

It is capped at 100% of your hp per leech if you want to be pedantic, sure

10k life protects you from 99% of one shots in the game, ensuring that you're immortal with VP and a target to leech, nowhere in your whiny rant about life vs ES have you ackwowledged that

Berserkers make some of the strongest and durable builds and they're life based, guess you missed all the Shaper farming builds that are 6 months old
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>>173743376
Yeah show me all your builds without kaoms that hit 10k hp sperg
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1884019
surprisingly, no one likes tempest or -30 fps league mod
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>>173743376
>It is capped at 100% of your hp per leech if you want to be pedantic, sure
Unless you're a Slayer with Endless Hunger, and even then it's only relevant if you're wearing The Retch.
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>>173743615
10k hp is doable with MoM pretty easily
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>>173743615
Even 8k with VP is more than enough for anything below t16

Are we arguing you can't waltz around with a 6k tabula character in t17 content and trash everything on a 5L now? end game content demands end game gearing, 9-10k should be achievable by any decent Berserker with plenty of nodes to spare for damage
>>
>yesterday

>tricksterfag wont stop defending his shitty ascendancy

>today its berserker

lmao 100% life leech is worthless as long as you do damage you shitter
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>hurf durf bersker so good! and tanky!

>except you give yourself a 10% More modifier on yourself
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>>173723237
>>173722459

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKyuFV83XXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Wgjng9ixs
>>
Jesus Christ. All I'm saying is that life has plenty of options to build extremely durable and tanky characters too, ehp is not everything. If you're going CI, obviously you want to shoot for 12-15k+ ES because newsflash, that's all your defenses along with flasks if you don't have VP.

If you do have VP, you can get away with much less, but VP is not an exclusively ES keystone, life builds can use it too, with Berserker VP builds being an obvious example and some of the most popular Shaper farming builds.

All in all, the disparity is not as great as you make it sound. It's only made noticeable when you have fully decked 20k ES characters that are worth 50+ ex, or someone partying with a support that enhances ES builds by a large factor, while life builds don't get much from a guardian support.

If you take the currency you spent on your 12k ES character and are unable to build and equally strong 8k life build, then you're a complete idiot drinking the reddit kool aid and who has never learned to play the game.
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>>173743679
Tempest is fucking gay.
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>>173743892
Oh yeah its totally doable!
You just need to not use ANY auras at all!
meanwhile low life builds can get more than 10k with MORE auras than any mom build POSSIBLY COULD

HURRRR DURRR GGG IS SO GOOD AT MAKING VIDEOGAME
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>>173745115
what auras are good for chaos+phys builds that can't be gotten by a witchfire brew?
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>>173744671
I laughed more then i should
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>>173745313
>haha PVP IS SO SHIT
>SO FUNNY
>XDDD

go back to work chris
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>>173745313
Don't forget about the desync build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxiWu3T4dQo
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>>173745393
Did you got reflected?
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>>173745115
>run every aura in the world
>mom did I make a good build?
congratulations on your boring RF build or aurabot I guess
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>>173745061
Funny because poeg jerks over it--at least used to. "LOADSA CURRENCY AND 6 LINKS!" What a shit league.

>>173745574
>build with lots of auras
>boring
nop
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>>173745546
haha this is funny to me. Show me more vids of pvp fags get btfo.
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>>173741709
>thinks vaal can only heal 20% hp
is this fuck trolling or do we have day 1 kids who don't know how vaal pact works trying to argue?
>>
more like vaal packed
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>Hit for over 300k dps
>have 2% leech
>have 100% leech
>this is exactly the same amount of leech with vaal pact

>hurf durf zerker so good XD make ur healthpool even smaller with a 10% debuff
>>
ah yes... the good old 300k per hit blade vortex build... amazing...
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>>173745546
holy kek
>>
>6k leech per second is the same as 300k leech per second
>the leech makes the increased damage irrelevant and is then just a more modifier
Shut up retard
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>>173745546
why has no one turned this into a viable pve build yet

>Deals (8-462) to (12-693) Cold Damage
it even deals decent base damage at level 20 what the fuck
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>>173746514
>2.0.0 Now has a cooldown that can be bypassed by consuming Power charges. Its damage, duration, and wall length have all been greatly modified.
>2.0.2e Frost Wall's cooldown can no longer be bypassed by expending Power Charges.
>Frost Wall's cooldown has been reduced from 5 seconds to 3 seconds.
>>
>not having a popular russian/price-fixing item and listing one yourself at a dumb price to farm F R E E (you)s from dumbass russians/price-fixers 24/7
poeg is an inefficient place for (you)s familias
>>
>k we nerfed shotgunned and buffed fp's damage
>k we introduced a new spell called FrostBolt that is pretty shit, but casts almost as fast as fp and has more damage
>k we gave both skills +4 projectiles for 2 jewels except one hits 2 screens and the other is still shit since the GMP nerf
why the fuck should I play FP?

It used to be my favorite skill
>>
what would be a better poverty build, flameblast totem or shockwave totem
>>
Did my first poe playthrough on HC legacy and ripped right when I was gonna end act 4.
I died to a pack of rares that when they died they spawned a bunch of giant white looking pillars that shot shockwaves that instantly killed me.

Could anyone tell me they are called or what happened. Its hard to look this stuff up and find answers
>>
sounds like you have no idea what you're doing
just play sc
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>>173747792
crit and damage effectiveness
>>
Freezing Pulse has a damage effectiveness of 125%, the highest of any spell barring exceptions like Vaal Molten Shell/Discharge

It deals more damage than Frostbolt per second and has 20% more base crit chance
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>>173747792
FP still has 1% higher crit chance which saves you a lot and a sick damage effectiveness.
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>>173748114
>>173748193
>Being able to hit 2 screens per cast vs 1 screen per cast is worth a little bit of extra dps

no

They really fucking screwed over fp by not giving it projectile speed on jewels
>>
some spells are good at things
other spells are good at other things
not every spell is the same

play what you want depending on what you want to achieve

a strand farmer is not a shaper killer

is split arrow the best skill in the game because it has off screen potential and built in gmp?
>>
>>173748091
Thanks for answering the question. I'll just stop worrying about dying and play sc. Good suggestion
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>>173748568
Freezepulse and Frostbolt are mechanically the fucking same, exact one has more base damage and can hit multiple screens with no projectile speed investment

Classic GGG powercreep
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>>173748425
i'm playing fp at the moment and hit things off screen cause i have faster proj as my 5th link, the projectiles travel way faster than frostbolt too
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>>173748790
>the projectiles travel way faster than frostbolt too
You clearly haven't used the new frostbolt jewels that give them 40% increased projectile speed per second (That's 80% increase proj speed per second with 2 jewels)
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>>173748719
yes, and? more base damage and slower cast speed with lower crit chance = lower dps
frostbolt is also noticeably weaker than the other for single target

Frostbolt + threshold jewel
vs
Freezing Pulse Totem + Rain of Splinters

I'll let you figure out which option is the strongest on an Inquisitor
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>>173748941
Frostbolt cold to fire avatar of fire is stronger because cold damage is shit and ignite is fucking broken anon, dont be a retard
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>>173749013
and somehow you can't apply the same strategy with FP? you're the only retard here, digging your own hole
>>
Just did deathless Atziri, not even have resists capped. Just changed my Astral Plate for Kaom's.

How profitable can be buying midnights to run Atziri all day? Is it worth or I shouldn't bother buying frags?
>>
what's the sickest looking shield to skin transfer? preferably an ice/frost themed one because I'm frost blades
>>
aegis aurora
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>>173749136
You can't do the same with with FP because the ignite is based on the initial hit, and frostbolt has a much bigger initial hit you fucking retard
>>
Just found this on the forum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnWepCGA4o

Thoughts?
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>>173749395
FP has the bigger average hit due to having a better crit chance and thus being easier to stack crit mult on

try again, chump
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>>173749517
My man, when the assassin ascendancy exists the base crit of the spell doesn't mean fucking shit, especially with a diamond flask.

Try again, retard
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>>173749630
>doing a cold to fire build as an assassin

based retard
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>>173749874
>Doing a crit burn build with the ascendancy class with the biggest initial hits
lmao anon stop being retarded
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>>173748867
No, I haven't, but

>Projectile Speed: 375

is about 20% the speed of

>Projectile Speed: 1800

How many seconds do you have to wait until your projectile is as fast as FP?
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>>173749963
Yeah you're probably going to want to be inquisitor for the burn

also, you don't even need to do ctf, you can just use Hrimburn, which is what I'm doing on FP
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>>173749963
>the ONLY way to scale an ignite is through the initial hit

my little anon can NOT be this retarded
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>>173749630
fire resistance double dips on ignites so you still end up with worse damage than an inquisitor if you don't penetrate resistance

you keep reaching to justify a weaker spell for single target

>b-b-b-ut what if you're an shitcrowsin
>b-b-b-ut what if you use a diamond flask and are lucky
>b-b-b-ut my slightly higher base damage
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>>173748129
Magma orb has that damage effectiveness too tho
>>
Arguing retards, this is a positive general. Free
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Reminder that egalitarianism is the ideology of the loser retard. Some things are clearly better than others and that's OK.
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>>173750143
>>173750210

>Yeah you're probably going to want to be inquisitor for the burn
Critical hits dont permanently make the target 0res you fucking autist, only the initial hit is 0 res

Double curse assassin is stronger burn than inq
>>
>double curse meme
dropped
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>>173751084
1) the initial hit of freezing pulse or frostbolt is relatively low compared to, say, vortex or flameblast, meaning optimizing for the single biggest ignite possible is idiotic - they're not once-and-done big hitting spells like flameblast/vortex, you optimize for DPS with ignite just being the cherry on top

2) crit FP would still be stronger than crit Frostbolt, and that's without taking into account damage effectiveness, not matter the ascendancy so you're still shooting yourself in the foot no matter your argument

kys yourself
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>mfw offensive curses
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>>173751345
>M-MUH DAMAGE

Again, fp is more dps but FP is better clear


clear is the only thing that matters in this game
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>>173751454
>FP is more DPS but FP is better clear
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>>173751454
ok so we finally agree one spell is better for single target and the other is better for clearing strands

glad we had to go through one hour of pure autism for you to understand that
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>>173751529
but freezing pulse is better for both?
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>just killed cruel weaver in 4 seconds with nothing but zombies
SO BROKEN!!!
>>
London has fallen
I repeat, London has fallen
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oh fuck
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>>173751932
>mfw big hitbox near wall

leveling a wander was fun
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>>173752308
too bad wanders are shit
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I have 62c and I wanna make something cheap but gud, any suggestions boys? trying to get that sweet portal effect
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>the game is so easy now it's basically impossible to die before merc-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up_3l5fZ8Vo
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>>173752471
t2 clearspeed
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>>173753225
wanders are great if you aren't hardcore, as it is right now they just can't be hardcore viable while reaching their full potential. To get even 8k ES with a LL wander requires a ludicrous amount of investment in perfect ES gear, because you have to use a ton of shitty uniques to make wander DPS on par with builds with a similar cost.
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>SSF comes out
>It's shit
Has catposter even been this BTFO before?
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>>173753560
forgot your cat picture
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>>173753560
rather; when aren't they btfo? everything they say is retarded.
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>>173753461
Why would you go lowlife when you can go ci pathfinder instead?
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whats a decent support spectre?
>>
evangelists
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>>173753225
clearspeed doesnt matter if you cant whirling blade or shield charge
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>>173753738
auras = damage when you are an ele build that scales off of lots of flat damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JagZU3TVXW4&feature=youtu.be&t=209

Absolute cancer music but LL Wander is definitely impressive DPS
>>
a pathfinder wander with 150+ ms can outclear the vast majority of builds, shieldchargequisitors included
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>mfw died on my freeze pulser just after the freeze pulse conversation by running into a bunch of tul rares

it was great fun while it lasted
>>
but would have frostbolt saved you
>>
What's the point of flicker striking through the map at a billion miles an hour if you miss half the mobs and have to run back to pick up currency?
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>>173754862
no, i just ran into a huge pack that had spawned in that little corner the cavern boss lives in and got stunned to death

I think there was two or three rares in there, and one with a phys aura
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>>173754874
>shitcore strike
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>>173754874
whats the point of playing this game when you can clear the hardest content in the game with totems
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>>173755408
actually i play a 100% life leech vaalpact berserker in the hardcore legacy league
i literally cannot die
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Haven't played since the closed beta,

should I wait for 3.0?
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>>173755609
>i literally cannot die

so you aren't doing any content above t8 then? flicker strike will never be viable as long as volatile exists.
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>>173755609
BULLSHIT
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>>173755980
When you want to play an amry summoner then play before 3.0
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>>173756115
I usually just go with 2h weapon, I play for fun and don't normally go to end game. I usually reroll characters frequently.

But I want to do all 10 acts.
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>>173755992
>log out
another pussy egocore
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>quit poe in 1.3 to focus on /tv/ shitposting full time
>suddenly a couple normie friends want to play with me but quit after 4 (FOUR) days because "its too repetitive".
>try to salvage my support necro with that hip 1k str zombi build
>its actually much better than old zombie builds. their AI is smarter than some people i played with

dunno why people complain. i know its a slow build build "traditional summoner" had never been this good before
>>
>"traditional summoner" had never been this good before
that's true for all builds that weren't explicitly nerfed
>>
what to reroll

some shit raider la with voltaxic and +1 frenzy kaom's roots and coil

or

some shit max block chaos blade vortex with ming's heart, apep's rage/cybil's, cherrubim's maleficence/cospri's will and broken faith
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>>173757490
oh an ripped to stun lock because i respecced out of US of to save 2 points because "i wasnt getting hit" and obviously i did get hit right after that
>>
Le epic meme conversion support gem:
Converts 66% of elemental damage to damage of the other two elements at 33% each
Converts 75% of physical damage to elemental damage at 25% for each element.
160% mana multiplier
%quality increases elemental damage by 1%
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>>173753953
What? You realize good wanders and bow characters still do sub 1min strands right? Its not vfb 20 second no loot strands but its better than 99% of the shitter builds people run
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>>173760639
you either dont understand how conversion works or tried to come up with a stealth fire conversion gem
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>>173754208
>links boss build/video in the context of clearspeed
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>>173760806
>"why go LL"
>"you go LL for damage"
>link a video showing the damage

you were the one who couldn't follow the context
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>>173760639
>Use fire skill
>take AoF
>socket your shit gem
>% ele damage nodes now loop and you get trillions of damage

sure
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>>173761036
>loop
that doesnt happen
all ele>ele goes in a given order: lightning>cold>fire and then stops
and phys to [element] always is done first
hence its a fire conversion gem
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>>173760957
Well guess you were off the mark from the start, bringing in single target dps when I said it was t2 clearspeed
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>>173761165
I was remarking on wanders in general, and the discussion was not even about the clearspeed at the start, it started off with the statement "too bad wanders are shit", which was in reply of a video of killing a boss. I didn't mean to go into this long autistic discussion about what was meant and what was said in the replies but there it is.
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>>173761120
>all ele>ele goes in a given order: lightning>cold>fire and then stops

All ele conversion already in the game goes it that order precisely to prevent loops of conversion scaling damage, and your gem breaks that ordering which lets you get infinite damage (or crash the server, which is more likely)
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>>173755992
free report sent :^)
>>
ITS A PVE GAME NOTHING IS OP
YOURE FIGHTING A COMPUTER
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D
>>
D
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there are whole fucking rooms in Residence that are nothing but a lone statue

indoor maps are such shit when you scour the corner of a map for ONE monster on top of having to backtrack
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qam76wlzOw
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result of 2 hours dried lake farming as MFer (get to voll as quickly as possible, kill, reset)
79% quantity, 209% quality.
MF flask for blue packs / rares / voll to get to 97% quant and 294% quality

doesn't seem worth it. just can't get enough rings to drop for the chaos recipe, i get a ring drop maybe once every 6 maps or so
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>>173763630
>no vaal haste
>granite flask for some reason
>no bisco's collar
>no bisco's leash
wow
it's like
you have no idea what you're doing
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>>173763857
bisco's collar is garbage m8
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>>173763925
clearly +100 IIQ for trash and an open ring slot for a second Ventor is inferior to Ascetic+blue ring of uselessness

stay retarded my friend
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>>173764063
why are you so angry

100% iiq for normal monsters only is shit
good ventor's are expensive as fuck
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>>173763630
>>173764123
you're retarded because you have shit clear speed and expect to get loot at a decent rate

>SRS and flame dash

lol
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>>173764175
you really like that word
>>
you're poor for a reason (hint: it's your stupidity)
gotta love that +0 IIQ pleb of hands too
ever heard of sentari's?

I'm faster with a 0 attack speed shield charge character + vaal haste
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>>173764208
I'm not the other guy that called you retarded. we are just in agreement that you are, in fact, a retard.
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>>173764268
what build would you suggest then
>>
hmm guys what should i put on my dried lake iiq farmer

i know, i'll flame dash and use my granite
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>>173764321
>>173764471
lol ok
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>>173764321
the immediate answer is vaal spark/vaal fireball, you can stack a ton of IIQ/IIR on those. but there are plenty of fast clearing builds that can sacrifice a few slots for quant and rarity shit. you just have to remember that if someone has an arbitrary value of 100 IIQ/IIR, and there's someone with an arbitrary value of 50 IIQ/IIR but clears three times as fast as the other guy, the guy with only 50 IIQ/IIR will get more drops.
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or you could take any decent non shit build and run onslaught breach maps and make the same as that guy in half an hour with no effort involved
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>>173764601
>rolling maps
>equipping leaguestones
>not just farming dried lake to level up enlightens more efficiently and selling all leaguestones

it's like you actually want to have fun mapping instead of being efficient and making currency
>>
every rng roll is precious
luck cannot be wasted
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>>173764601
farming dried lake doesn't exactly take a lot of effort
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diviner's only spawn in maps btw
but have fun flame dashing to voll for 5 rares I guess
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>>173764802
i'm using quicksilver + flesh offering which have 100% uptime

i don't get why you're so angry. something bad happen in your life?
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despise sh*tcrows
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kripp playing d3 necro rn
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>tfw your build turns out better than you expected and in your overconfidence you forget to turn on your auras after recoloring something and you die instantly
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>>173765671
>hardcuck
>>
>fecalbird getting uppity
>>
The only "hard" thing about "hard"core is to resist shooting yourself in the face for being such a "hard"core dumbass.
>>
*runs 547th shaped strand of the league*
heh... shitcrows will never touch this...
>>
*finishes volcano with only 1 portal left*
heh... hardcucks will never know the thrill of this...
>>
*has sex with gf*

heh....poetards will never understand this thrill....
>>
*fights back suicidal thoughts*
heh... normies will never get this...
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>tfw sometimes dip down to suicide-thoughts level of retard and that just gives the illusion of happiness to my otherwise low/middle sensations
Anyone else feel as if their baseline is everyone else's "low"? Hard to tell when you've lived as it most of your life.

I also now find most poe builds to be boring as shit. Feels pretty bad.
>>
"depression" isnt real kids
dont fall for it
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>>173764175
yeah, clear speed is essentially IIQ as long as you can sustain your map pool.
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>Try to make a magma orb hierophant
>realize i have no idea what im doing

H
E
L
P
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As people ae talking about currency farming: why isn't Vault more popular? It has a decent layout, good common card drops and have good map drops(except underground sea, but they get vendored into vaults anyway)
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>What did surprise us, however, is that it is the most popular league despite many players having just experienced a full 3 month league of Breach only weeks earlier.

Well no fucking shit.
>Make league with no new features at all
>The most popular/fun/profitable league-feature gets used the most

Are they fucking retarded?
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>>173769014
just wait until chris uses this as an excuse to make all leagues low-reward skippable 0content fuckfests because breach has too much of an impact and was being abused
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>>173768774
use consuming dark and infernal mantle, go crit, poison shit
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>>173769014
GGG genuinely is in awe that people would rather have a somewhat risky league that involves getting tons of rewards instead of having slightly modified regular content that you will walk past 99% of the time because it isn't worth the effort. Yes, they're retarded.
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>4th character this league just hid mid-90s
>Still throwing shit in unid chaos recipe tabs out of habit
>Too lazy to get filler items to downgrade sets from regal to chaos
>Tabs keep filling up

Help
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>>173769289
>he fell for the chaos recipe meme
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>>173768774
>magma orb hierophant

uh

why not inquis
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>>173769349
I mean, if he's scaling poison, or using totems you could make an argument for hierophant?
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>>173768514
>chemical imbalances in the brain aren't real
I hope you're just confused between "muh feelz" and depression.
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>>173768514
then why was i compelled to not leave my room for 3 months when i stopped taking my serotonin re-uptake inhibitors?
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>>173769719
over 95% of people who claim they have depression are actually just sad.
And yes I made that statistic up but, only a very small percent of people who have "depression" have legit chemical imbalances.
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>>173769349
>Use magma orb for AoE and potential decent single target if you space it right and don't namelock with it
>Use totems for augment your single target, socketing them in either gloves or helm for a free 5l
>Use MoM with raw life so you don't oneshot yourself on reflect like inquisitor
>Even potential end charge generation off power charges on crit orb of storms

Seems decent desu.
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>>173770574
In psychiatric tradition by "depression" they mean the clinical depression, and they don't use this word lightly as it is a serious condition. Psychologists and other people on the other hand, mean something lighter when they say it.
>>
>>173770574
Well yeah, that's a different topic though.

It's hard to tell whether you have depression or not. Or, something else that's similar, such as chronic fatigue or who knows what else. And what is "just sad" anyways? Differs from a few people to others.

At least you're honest. Majority of people here would just be all "LAMO FUK U NERD XD"

>>173771606
Psychiatry and Psychology are very close-knit, anon. If you mean social workers or sociologists, then yeah sure. But Psychiatry and Psychology are actual science and neither [should] use specific terms such as depression loosely.
>>
>previous char in low 90s getting 20-50m (50m being a little lucky) xp/hr
>reroll char, high 60s in maps pulling 100m xp/hr consistently
so this is the power of using a movement skill with high attack speed and movement speed.
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>>173771749
anon, you get wildly different xp per hour depending on what level you are. it's hard to get any decent xp per hour past 90.
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>>173771794
On what map though? My 90s was running mostly red maps. My reroll isn't that good either. It's a pretty generic Raider that's phys/chaos/poison ST that still has mana issues.

Already looking to reroll into a build I first half-rolled before (Baron, but I wanna do it SRS-based this time)

fug this game
>>
>>173771641
>psychiatry and psychology are actual science
No, they literally aren't. Deciding if someone has depression is purely subjective in both of them. They don't have any objective definitions in either field for any of the day-to-day stuff at all.

Can you take someone and measure them and know objectively "that person is 78% depressed"? No, you can't, because it isn't measurable.

Can you take someone and answer a yes/no question if they are suffering depression or just think they are? No, because it's not measurable.

A reduced level of serotonin, unlike depression, can be measured, but someone can have a reduced level of serotonin without hating themselves or the world or life.

Chemistry and physics and biology are sciences. Psychology and psychiatry are pseudo-sciences impersonating actual sciences, which is why ADHD drugs are everywhere because "school is boring"

If psychology and psychiatry were actual sciences, then it'd be quite simple to not give medication to people who shouldn't have it.
But as fake sciences, it's purely opinion whether to give someone ridalin or not. Or whether someone is trying to slit their wrist because chemicals-made-em-do-it or simply because they lack willpower and did not make the choice to not do it.
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>>173772072
at lvl 68 you get 100% xp in a tier 1 map/dried lake, at level 90 a T11 is going to be 35.6% as effective, at level 95 a T11 is going to be 7.8% as effective.
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>>173772186
kek this is greatly amusing.

I take it you aren't or haven't been in any of those fields.
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today was good day
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new player, does anyone care about pvp?

just got to act 3 and been fucking around in the arena. literally everyone else has a bow and just obliterates my catastrophe of a first attempt at a build

there was also one guy just charging around with a shield who could literally 2 shot me

dammit
>>
>>173773620
No, nobody. There is no PVP
>>
I can't wait for 3.0. The last 3 leagues has all been as following.

>get filthy rich in the first week of the league
>sit on top of thousands of chaos with no idea what to spend on it
>try making shit builds decent through expensive gear
>either get bored at lvl 90 or simply die because the builds garbage

Shaper and Guardians were cool initially until everyone realized CI VP still out leeched all their damage.
>>
VP has survived for as long as it has because GGG knows the arpg is not conducive to interesting, mechanical gameplay
>>
Tfw never made a VP build.
>>
ded
>>
>>173763630
>no biscos for MF

ayy fucking lmao. It's the most busted item in the fucking game right now. IIQ for white mobs that drop little items and IIR for blue packs that drop a lot of items.
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*What's Atziri's favorite fetish and position?
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>>173780110
full nelson anal
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And with this, I am finally released from the game

Is there any particular reason why legacy sadimas are selling like hotcakes? I've sold 3 for 30c each. Some new exploit going around? MF gear for bots?
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>>173780110
/ss/, monster girl, vanilla, leg lock, happy sex, heart pupils
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>>173780616
Oh apparently I still had some currencies I can use to buy one last key

>mfw
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Anyone got a Cospri's? Fucking jews on poe trade want too much.
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>>173782264
>15c
>too much
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>>173782416
try 50-70
>>
>>173781392
underrated post
>>
>just bought a near-perfect 6-linked Doomfletch Prism for 5 ex
nice to buy the next big meta item before it becomes popular
>>
>acuity
>14ex
Why? Why not just pick VP?
>>
>>173784858
Bought mine for 7 and sold for 14. Felt really good.

As for why, there are a lot of builds on the forums that use acuity because they're on the wrong side of the tree for whatever reason.
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>>173784858
because vaal pact is literally half the tree away on a berserker
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If you dual weild cospri's, do they share CD or they are both independent?
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tfw too dumb to make a crit build
>>
Golems can be triggered right
>>
why do different classes start on different parts of the tree? this was their first mistake.
>>
>>173785524
right
some people put their golems on a CWDT so they don't have to remember to re-cast them.
>>
Bow much dps should I be getting with a want on pob?
>>
>>173786994
I was thinking of abusing those warband rings but then I noticed the on cast effects only apply to golems socketed in them
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Does Profane Bloom's explotion remove the target's corpse?
>>
>does exploding a corpse remove it?
:thinking:
>>
Can Contagion poison?
>>
does contagion hit?
>>
Abberath's hooves builds are fine if I just want to farm strand/dried lake, right?
>>
>>173788990
of course
add 2x obliteration wand and be ready to have 0 corpse on the screen
>>
im bored out of my mind with LSC, time to try out SSFHC. casual pizzasticks or do i try to make my own zerker build? thinking about cleave or EQ
>>
poeg, can you help me with a little theorycrafting?
I'm trying to think on the best way to approach Bladefall Trap on this league.

So far I'm really interested in trying out a Eleprolif, 100% phys to fire setup, using either elementalist or saboteur.
How bad would it be? I don't exactly expect it to be a good build, just a decent meme build to have some fun with.
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>>173791101
you picked a bunch of skills / mechanics with no synergy. you build will be shit
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welp now what..
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>>173791296
is there no way to make bladefall trap work with ele prolif?
>>
>>173791335
buy my voidheart ring for 12ex
>>
>>173791385
no half-decent way, I mean.
again, I dont expect to play a HoWA build here.
>>
>>173790805
LL RF
>>
>>173791385
for ele prolif you want a skill that does large hits easily
bladefall does several medium-size hits
>>
>>173791515
oh right, because of how elemental status are based on the damage the hit does relative to the monsters max health.

hmmm, using chance to ignite on the link?
would lose a lot of damage...
>>
>>173791458
should i really be spending it so soon?
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>>173792201
no. thats only for freeze and shock
burn ignites no matter how much damage you do (as long as crit or have good burn chance) but it doesnt stack, so only yourlargest hit applies burn (and prolif)

unless you use emberwake, which would hurt your clear speed as you would need several ignite stacks to even start making up for the initial damage gimp and on a skill with a cooldown, that is a pretty shitty idea

hence why bladefall trap is mostly used with poison
>>
>>173792334
do you have a headhunter already?
>>
>>173792414
no
>>
>>173792410
thanks for the help!!!
>>
>>173792410
isnt emberwake only used for self ignite in combination with that other item that gives dmg per ignite on you
>>
>>173755992
ok but anon the difference between that person and me is I have 10 endurance charges
>>
>Want to go fast
>Don't want only do strands so templar vfb/vspark is out
>Want to use a wand or bow
>Don't want to go pathfinder
>>
>>173793207
it can be used to stack burns on enemies, but most people dont do that because its shitty

>>173793315
yeah i bet 40% phys resist is gonna do wonders againsts volatiles
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>>173793640
>he doesn't have 90% max res minimum of all elements
HAHAHA
typical logout core shitter
>>
>>173793584
kb miner or something miner w/ poison. Go with queen of the forest raider
>>
>>173793993
>Fast
>Miner
it takes forever to fucking place mines without saboteur tree are you joking
>>
Hmm. Well at least you're not denying that queen of the forest raider fits the bill for sonic level speeds for bow and wand.
>>
>>173755992
>triple essence volatile
read the fucking text retard. you're frost blades, you can attack from outside volatile range.
>>
Does animeposting makes you gay or being gay makes people animepost?
>>
both
>>
I need a trickster build


I've done everything besides trickster and berseker this league
>>
LL RF SRS
>>
>>173780616
ziz made a vaal fireball video that uses them
>>
>>173794545
It makes you a sissy.
>>
>>173794713
cospri discharge
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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>173794950
hot
making a guy and turn him into a boislut has always been the best part of coc
>>
>>173795254
>trickster over assassin
>>
>>173795515
I've played both and, yea, assassin has faster and more consistent clear.
But trickster was more fun, don't really know why.
>>
>>173785321
please respond
>>
What percentage of the game would you say finishing all acts on all difficulties (+3 labs) is (first shaper kill being 100% completion let's say)? 20-30%? Trying to get a rough estimation of how far along I am in the games content.
>>
probably less than 5%
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>>173796750
most people quit after brutus
of those who dont, most quit after finishing the game (in normal)
we are whats left
>>
>>173797197
Did they quit because of how ugly Act 1 looked, or because of how much of pushovers all the enemies were?
>>
i usually quit right before merveil because i can't abide violence to women
>>
>>173797353

a combination of feeling like they are playing a game from 2005 that isnt that fun or entertaining unless you like the genre already and the realization that they have no idea whats going on mechanics-wise and that it will take reading an entire wiki to understand how to make frost bolt good
>>
The more I run maps the more I wish the story content was relevant.

In D2 pretty much every act boss had a purpose. Hell, sometimes you even wanted to farm bosses on lower difficulties(SoJ farming Nightmare Andariel for example.) Now I'm just farming the same small handful of non-shitty maps and killing a boss that is almost indistinguishable from a standard rare because anything below tier 16 melts instantly. What happened to this genre?
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>>173798047
>What happened to this genre?
twitch cancer
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Can't decide what witch build to run
any recommendations?
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>>173798514
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>>173798047
Yeah farming the great pindle was so different
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>>173798514
flicker starforge with avatar of fire
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>>173798641
Whats a good champion melee build that uses the permanent fortify for a FREE 7l
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>>173798839
no one uses 45 on their main skill you mong
its what you put on your movement skill
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>>173798839
you don't go champion for melee builds
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>>173798728
Nobody farmed Pindleskin unless they were botting. It was horribly inefficient compared to pretty much any act boss.
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How do i decide for myself if I should invest time into this game
I can't really decide on a build and I get really anxious about wasting time because im autistic af
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wlecome home brother
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>>173799820
though choices are solved with rolling posts
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>>173799728
Look at the various spells and skills on the wiki. Find one you think sounds cool. Go to google and search "(Skill or Spell here) 2.6 build." Play the game.

Do not attempt to make your own build until you fully understand all the mechanics and nuances of the game. I guarantee you whatever you're thinking of is worse than a build someone else has made.
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>t12
>chain map
>antalie napora
>brutal shrine
>mfw SRS
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>>173788024
About* I'm an idiot and want to make a gladiator wander
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>>173798958
There must be some melee builds for it
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Fastest way to get leo 7?
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>>173806124
create a new account, have two computers. Log onto to both accounts, and feed the characters to each other.
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How does shaping maps work? I looked at the wiki and it seems simple enough but my shaped tier 5 map(which is now tier 10) is exactly the same as every other tier 5 map. Same enemy level, same item level drops, same experience.
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>>173806663
Shaped maps drop. It'll say shaped om the item itself. It doesn't change regular versions of the map.
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why are there all these low life leveling uniques but no real means of keeping yourself low life while leveing?
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>>173808460
Malachai's Simula is a lv17 item with blood magic. Just put your auras in there anon, at that point you have clarity and the heralds arent far.
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>>173808993
yeah but sources of ES at that level are pathetic as fuck
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>>173808460
Those items aren't there for low level characters to play low life builds. They're there as a bonus for when you're about to die.
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>>173809852
Are you retarded?
How is 1% life regen gonna save you when you're about to die you fucking autist
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>>173809684
I'm pretty sure that the original intent of low level LL items is simply to have a bonus that kick-in when you are in the shit, nothing more
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>>173810361
The entire concept of LL was probably more like that and less SHAVS ONLY FINAL DESTINATION
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>>173810493
>Melee builds
>better as low life
>wand builds
>better as low life
>spellcaster builds
>better as low life
>RF builds
>better as low life
really cool game retards
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>>173810246
Because at a low level you don't sit there and smack something for 100k damage to instantly leech all your health back. You run the fuck away. Having percentage-based regen when you're still learning the game(you know, the people those low level uniques are made for) can be a big help.
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>>173810583
>melee
>spelldmg
??
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>>173810708
>What are auras
retard

>Summoners are better as low life
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>>173810583
Dont forget that CI is the only build that gets to use melee damage on full life
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>>173810825
I'd rather have offensive auras on my life than 1 gem
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how the fuck did the #2 ssf hc guy get a headhunter
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>>173811125
leaguestone exploiting
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SSFHC roll

1-3 Zerker cleave
4-6 Deadeye frostblades
7-9 Pizzasticks
0 Trickster mines how the fuck would I even play this
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>>173811261
>4-6 Deadeye frostblades
congratulations this is the most retarded thing i've ever read all day
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>>173811369
>what is ricochet
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>>173811617
had to search on the wiki to know what that was. the fuck is this shit
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>>173811617
frostblades already clears better than 90% of melee skills without chain autist
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>>173812297
so why not make it better :-)!
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>>173811617
>muh chain
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>>173811617
1 chain is shit
+2 chain would be good (Because it could hit the same mob twice)
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>>173811261
>>Zerker cleave
>>Deadeye frostblades
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>>173813119
>>>Zerker cleave
this is fine
>>173813119
>>>Deadeye frostblades
this is not

but playing cleave without the threshold jewel is gonna be beyond shit i wouldnt consider it as an SSF option
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Pleb here. Doing a Juggernaut Marauder cyclone build.

For my ascendancy tree, should I get unflinching first, or unyielding? I kind of want to get unflinching first, then unrelenting, because I don't know if I'll be able to beat the labyrinth on merciless.

In general, which one is better for staying alive?
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>>173813571
>Pleb here. Doing a Juggernaut Marauder cyclone build.
You should reconsider. Cyclone was hit all too hard after the aoe nerfs

Glacial Hammer with Melee Splash would clear faster than marauder cyclone

Only way to make it viable is Raider because of the movespeed
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>>173813874

>Only way to make it viable is Raider because of the movespeed

I tried Ngamhus flame cyclone on a raider and even with the movespeed it was terrible, I wouldn't play cyclone at all until they change it for the better
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>>173814102
forgot to include that, even then its subpar as fuck
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>curious what esk is up to
>banned

hah

if you still browse these threads youre a pathetic bitch who couldnt win a league even with a nerd rmting the maps and vaal sparking for you please kys, hans too
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>>173813874
I hear that AoE got nerfed, but I seem to be doing fine with it so far. I've got it linked with faster attacks, life gain on hit, and fortify on hit, so it has decent sustain (for me at least). I'll look into glacial hammer with melee splash though.

Unfortunately I already picked Juggernaut though so I'm stuck with it for now. In my situation should I go for unyielding for increased damage with fortify, or unflinching (with immortal call) for defense against a burst?
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>>173814498
>I'll look into glacial hammer with melee splash though.
That wasn't a suggestion it was a comparison to how awful the skill is
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How does damage over time work? lets say i deal 100 fire damage per attack, 3 attack per second, 300 dps. when i ignite an enemy do i deal 20% of 100 or 300 per second?
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>>173815332
>>173815332
>>173815332
>>173815332
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