XCOM General - /xcg/

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First for ethereals should be in xcom 2

Is there a patch coming out any time soon that makes the game fun? Im tired of running solo shinobi missions because they're the most effective and being relentlessly punished when i want to take more than 5 troops and blow up ayys

>>173570034
1.3 is supposed to rectify the prevalence of stealth in LW2

Asking for the ETA will get meme replies

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>Everytime I go up an armor tier I spend well over an hour adapting everyone's outfits to fit the tier
This is why my campaign's take so long.

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>>173570278
did they say how exactly or is it just more mission variety early game?
also more pilots plz

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>>173569631
I saw people asking about when they are ready to raid bases in UFO defense. It depends on the alien race. Floaters and sectoids can definitely be done with laser rifles, though sectoids have psionics. If you don't have psi resistant soldiers, power armor + heavy canons is a good combo as you can easily kill sectoids, but your troops will have a hard time killing each other. Just watch out for the discs.

Snekman can be done with lasers, though plasma makes a world of difference against lids in the close combat of the bases.
Mutons I would reccomend plasma to cut through all that health.
I don't reccomend assault ethereal bases period, though obviously if you do, a full psi + plasma squad is recommended.
Techinically all of this can be accomplished regardless of armor, though it is very helpful. I would say floaters obviously easiest, than snakemen. But once you get plasma I would say that mutons are easier than snakemen. Sectoids are the second hardest imo because psi can also fuck stuff up.

Remember, the primary goal of base raids is resources and captives. If you don't have an alien commander, destroying base before you get one is not recommended as you don't want to get stuck waiting for a landed battleship which will also give you unpredictable enemies. And a tougher environment for captures in my opinion.
Remember that you can scout bases and then leave through the access shafts you arrived from with zero consequences.
This means you can also raid the base as many times as you need to get captures, so long as you don't incapacitate all aliens.

Also remember that pistols are useful

>>173570501
This. We need more Titanfall stuff.

>>173561706
?

>>173570670
>>173571371

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>still no Dick the Birthday Boy voicepack

>>173569631
Guess what showed in the latest episode of Samurai Jack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhfZ6LOK58

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Pistols are Useful and Sexy.

>>173575058
fuck that kek

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>>173570501
>>also more pilots plz

More Titans too please,

>>173575058
LIDS!

>>173575058
Where can I watch the new show anyway? How much do I need to know from the old show? I only saw some scattered episodes here and there.

>>173575058
maces are useful

https://youtu.be/cREXn5FNRmI

Bump~

>>173576243
episode 1 and you are good but for i highly recommend watching the earlier seasons they hold up

>>173576607
>light and dark meme fight
Fuck that was a good one

>>173576607
I'm definitely consdiering watching the older ones, but those will always be in the past, these ones are fresh.
Where can I watch the new ones?

>>173569775
They are already in the game, you dumbass.

>>173576821
so co has i think has them on mega but you can watch them on kiss cartoon

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>>173576884

LMAO GET A BODY

>>173576927
Chris Evans mod when

>>173576712
shit was rad

>>173576908
Thank you very much anon

>>173577669
go get hype my dude and be sure to slay the ayy when you are done

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>>173576927

They kind of did.

>>173577940
Gokus don't count. Those bodies got bodied by us.

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>>173578092
>>Gokus don't count.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT KAKAROT?!

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Is there ever a point in the game where Berserkers are actually dangerous in X2? Their hit chance is ass and being a melee only enemy that doesn't have the ambush and pack factor of Lids means they just get bullied by Overwatch and reaction shots.

>>173579712
if one showed up on gatecrasher like that e3 gameplayvideo it would be a spot of trouble

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>>173579712
>unironically playing X2

>>173579780
shoo beags we still have souls you goblin

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>>173579780

Collaborator detected

>>173579780
You're not sending me back to the simulation ADVENT.

>>173579712
No not really. It's too bad. Their damage is really pathetic even if they do get to hit you.

>>173580526
Yeah, its a shame especially since everything about them except how they actually perform in combat is intimidating as fuck. From their look, the roaring, their size, and their animations I was shitting myself the first time I encountered one only to find they're complete and utter push-overs.

>>173580892
if they showed up earlier do you think that would help them or maybe passive regen like faceless

>>173580989
Even in the early game you could just bully the fuck out of them with Overwatch I feel.

>>173577715
Just finished. Hype was worth it.

>>173581048
Maybe a mechanic where each hit they took adds armor? Adding on to their rage mechanic. It would encourage single big hits and mean that weaker weapons like pistols and rifles wouldn't do so well.
Then again, grenades, canons, and shotguns are already the solution to everything so idk.

>>173581641
Do that, and increase their damage to make them a threat that's dangerous and takes more effort to take out. That would draw the fire away from their more squishy alien allies and give them a purpose.

>>173570440

That's XCOM EW/2 biggest trap. Just imagine if they allowed you to do that in the original X-COM.

>>173581641
>>173581965
still waiting for roid lancers that take overdrive serum before charging in

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>>173569631

We need a Psychic melee/sword attack in the game.

why no HE in x2?

>>173585557
care to elaborate

>>173585619
High Explosives

>>173585557
there's a tactical x4 mod and long war 2 has satchel charges

>>173585760
pretty sure grenadiers took that role through abilities they unlock that and grenades do a lot of environment damage to begin with they probably thought they were redundant

does anyone still play long war 14i like me?

>>173586469
I only play Beta 7, like a true patrician.

>>173586469
what for? Guardians?

>>173576475
These are getting good, what game is that strategic layer music from?

>>173570501
First off they're nerfing stealth:
Officer abilities no longer work on civilians, so you can't just oscar mike command a vip to dash half the map
Conceal is moved up to be a MSGT perk, throw evac and conceal or hack door and conceal was deemed too strong
Evac flare can no longer be reduced down to 1 turn, it now has a minimum
Objectives will now have stationary pods on them, you can no longer run towards prisoners and safely open the door with no enemies around (apparently that was supposed to be how it worked all along but there was a bug with pod generation)

In exchange the infiltration time for small squads (4-5) is now way down, so it's easier to 200% infiltrate with more than one unit.
Pods on stealth missions are also made smaller and weaker to make it possible to engage them.

I don't think it will be enough. As it is now I can barely gear my A team and the B team gets its scraps, if I actually need to gear several full squads the game will just fall apart. NCE is the default but Lump is adamant about not adding commander's choice because he thinks it undermines the GTS but the GTS is nowhere near fast enough to promote all your rookies in a decent amount of time. That and the appeal of GTS to me was always not needing to take a rookie on a mission as opposed to choosing the class. If you're supposed to use more units early on that just means more promotions fucked by NCE. The roster size is also an issue early on but increasing it just makes the gear and promotion issues worse.

The risk/reward of stealth was only one aspect of why people did it, the other was that they didn't have other squads ready so it was either stealth it or ignore it. If you don't make it easier to get multiple squads off the ground it's still going to be easier to gear suicide missions because hard is always preferable to impossible.

>>173576884
not as enemies you can fight

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quick question lads. How THE FUCK does Xcom 2 expect me to save the transmitter when after 2 rounds of an Andromedon firing at it it's down to half health and it took me 3 turns to reach it while dashing my whole squad like madmen in concealed mode?!

Once I reached it eery enemy on the map was there and even if I could have beaten them all (I could not) the transmitter was down in 4 turns.

that's bullshit

Commander difficulty btw

>>173598628
not all missions are meant to be winnable ;^)

Is it recomended to just have one squad of super soldiers or should I have 2 alternating them between each mission? This is for vanilla

>>173599318
heh...well restarting this shit. Gotta love Ironman :^)

>>173598628

Grenades will fix all your problems

>>173600054

You should be training rookies with your super soldiers so you can have backups

>>173593524
Ace Combat 4!

reposting link now that people are awake https://youtu.be/cREXn5FNRmI

>>173594498
This still seems really good imo. If things are un-balanced once you start to fight ayys again and aren't doing stealth missions. then the devs will be forced to balanced difficulty around this reality.
It's funny, I actually suggested making the evac timer longer to prevent stealth gameplay.
Things might be unbalanced now, but this actually gives me hope that they will move away from stealth like I was hoping.

>>173603483
>You should be training rookies with your super soldiers so you can have backups
alright thanks doing that now on my new run

>Grenades will fix all your problems
yeah I love incindiary. they've saved my ass many times

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Why aren't Floaters and Sectoid Commanders a thing anymore?

Also, Xenonauts does XCOM better than Firaxis' XCOM. Prove me wrong.

>>173606274
>Floaters
Upgraded to Archons.

>Sectoid Commanders
The base model Sectoid got an upgrade.

I miss the German tortu....interrogations

>>173606274
>Also, Xenonauts does XCOM better than Firaxis' XCOM. Prove me wrong.
I've never finished xenonauts. And by never finished, I've never completed more than 3 missions in a single campaign before I put the game down. If "doing XCOM" better than XCOM means creating a bland lifeless clone that tries to be x-com but is completely inferior, than I suppose you are correct.

>>173606274
I really like the atmosphere of xenonauts, but it always ends like >>173606718 said. The tactical layer is at best boring and at worst tedious.

>>173606274
Because normal Sectoids are now a combination of EU Sectoids and the Commanders.
Floaters are Archons.

>>173606274
Man, I'd love to have those guns in XCom 2.

Y'know, while on the topic, whatever happened to Seekers, Mechtoids, and all the other robot enemies (except Sectopods)? I think the Cyberdiscs are supposed to be Gatekeepers now.

>>173606423
>downgraded to Archons
ftfy, Archons don't hold the same horrid and grotesque appeal as Floaters. Also they don't have the ability to make 20% shots from across the map just because they moved three tiles to the left and get the flanking shot.

>>173606718
>>173607281
I've played both, and Xenonauts feels a bit more polished. I dunno, but something about it feels more... complete than UFO Defense. I had about equal fun with both though, so I guess it doesn't matter if one is better than the other.

>>173607589
But Commanders were a substantial enemy in EU/EW. They had a shitton of Psi abilities that weren't just Zombies, Insanity, and Mindfray.

>>173609381
>But Commanders were a substantial enemy in EU/EW. They had a shitton of Psi abilities that weren't just Zombies, Insanity, and Mindfray.
I honestly forgot the total psi capabilities between all the enemies in vanilla X2 because I've been using ABA2 for so long.

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Reckon I should sell some of these resources?

>>173610065
>822 meld
>not researched
u w0t

>>173610150
I don't have psionics researched yet, but I do have gene mods/mecs researched. I guess it counts as not researched until psionics?

>>173610065
I have never not regretted selling stuff.
And yet I keep doing it.

>>173610298
>but I do have gene mods/mecs researched.
weird, but at least that makes sense.

>>173609994
I use Long Dong myself, but they only ever use 3-4 abilities: Zombify or whatever its called, Mindfray, Insanity, and Mind Control.

>>173610065
No. Never sell any raw materials like Meld, Alloys, or Elerium. You need a shitton of each to fully outfit your soldiers and stay ahead of the tech curve.

>>173609381
>But Commanders were a substantial enemy in EU/EW. They had a shitton of Psi abilities that weren't just Zombies, Insanity, and Mindfray.
The big reveal about commanders in EU was that they can mind control. X2 sectoids can all do that from the start, though their retarded AI makes them prioritize necromancy

>>173610065
Personally I'd sell the stasis tanks and surgeries. They're used for a very expensive foundry project that reduces medbay vacations. Which is nice if you can afford it, but I doubt you'll be getting it soon.

Also I sell meld aggressively for an early game boost, but you're past the early game so I honestly don't know if you're better off just using it for its intended purpose or not.

>>173579712
Has anyone got that video of beserker attacking a regular muton.

I like that Beags is going back to TNX, but maybe he would like LW2 more after 1.3 and if he/we created a host of modlist that would improve the experience/solve his issues since vanilla LW2 is kinda shit

>>173606274
>Xenonauts
That game's in my back log, I'll play it today and let you know. All I can say so far is that I like the look of it, the atmosphere seems spot on.

>>173611627
Sounds like a plan. My roster is nearly full anyways, so a couple dudes in medbay won't hurt me any. Really need those aircraft upgrades in the foundry.

>>173606274
Xenonauts has no strategic depth and cannot sustain more than one playthrough, decided to balance so much against the base game of UFO that they nerfed explosives, and is overall an inferior clone of UFO which only has slightly better sprites.

>>173606274
>>173619282
nerfed explosives to the point of cosmetics

RIP Nosferatu

>>173626585
?

>>173626585
I'll miss Constantine's laugh.

>>173610697
Mindspin and psi reanimated are the only psi abilities they have. Mindspin is the ayy version of insanity, which has a chance to panic, disorient or mind control a unit.

Why are xcom guns so huge?

>>173630538
because they have huge guts

>>173630538
big guns big bullets for big ayys

>>173630538
Clear detail from the overhead zoomed out camera.

>they nerfed faceoff
>they nerfed formidable
>covering fire now activates a debuff
>flush now activates a debuff
>serial now loses damage on consecutive kills

>>173630538
little bullet kills slow
big bullet kills fast

>>173631769
Are these all changes for LW2? They'll regret this once they realize that xcom squads where only so strong because you could send just a few best armed and optimized ones while stealth missions cleared the rest without fighting.

>>173631769
>Serial losing damage on consecutive kills
Is PAvonis trying to piss everyone off

>>173634949

DUDE

MUH

MAGNIFICENCE

>>173635049
You know what, fine. This is why we should support other total overhauls instead like Geurilla War and Spectrum Green

>>173634949
I don't play LW2. That sounds just like ITZ, so what's the big deal?

>>173635385
bad players are mad their sharpshooters cant kill 30 enemies per turn anymore

>Insatll the Mankind Divided ost
>Prague Ambient music plays in Advent city raining

Some good shit right there

>>173635385
The big deal is that they are nerfing XCOM combat abilities and nerf at the same time. You can't just slap xcom with a huge series of nerfs and expect things to work out fine.

>>173635541
Don't forget Serial has a cooldown unlike ITZ

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>>173606274

Other than the Air Game BGM? Not really.

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>>173579780

What would you mod in as battle music, /xcg/?

>already bored of LW2 after one campaign
At the end of the day what it boils down to is ADVENT just isn't very fun to fight.

>>173644720
bloodborne maybe but that wouldn't really fit maybe evangelion classical fits nicely in a lot of turn based games imo

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>>173644720
Any of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qfh-P1kTbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIMbQ1waz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H83XNu8whc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fbuwMXU300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkVyj6Ynnho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZIZMRn-9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpWqBsM7gxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3_gVbZpcnk
I would've put in some Mass Effect 1 and Halo too but some kind souls have made already mods for that.

>>173646278
already made*

Is LW2 fun yet?

>>173644720
>>173644720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1VFqsew26c

>>173646278
Mass Effect's soundtrack really does fit to XCOM's style pretty well.

>>173646680
It's going further away from it actually.

>>173646278
>>173646816
>tfw /xcg/ saves you like five hours of looking for replacement bgm for your shitty beags knockoff

Are the mass effect games any good?

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>>173646278
>KLK soundtrack

>>173647914
>Are the mass effect games any good?
Yes. 1 & 2 are great. Just re-played them like two weeks ago, so they hold up imo.
Mass Effect 3 is rushed, so it ranges from good to ok throughout the game, but the ending completely blows.

>>173647914
Yes, 3 is the weakest story wise and not just because of the ending. But the trilogy is still worth playing overall. Avoid Andromeda entirely.

>>173644720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9QFA82SEA

>>173647914
>>173648070
The DLCs for 2 and 3 are also worth picking up if you end up liking the series, 2's being kind of mandatory for linking into 3. But be warned that EA are kikes and the DLC for both are still full price and end up costing more than the games themselves. So you may be better off pirating

>>173647914
I used me2 on my lw1 with the music mod and finding cut parts of the ost. All of the collector themes combat parts are late in their respective tracks.

>>173646278
You know I never played Tribes but whenever people bring it up they've never said anything about the soundtrack. Which is surprising because thats pretty gud, especially those "Flag Songs" in the related vids.

>>173595964
They will be soon.

I've seen things...

>>173649049
Basically just imagine those Flag Songs blaring in your ears as you're flying through the air at 300 kph with half the enemy team chasing right behind you at around the same speed because you stole their Flag.
Thats the Tribes experience.

>>173648024
>>173648070
>>173648350
>>173648514
Ok just bought ME 1 and am downloading it onto my Windows partition. I'm thinking a Soldier build built around using the Assault Rifle because I'm tired of le precision gun memes. It's a cover shooter, right? So probably gonna give the highest difficulty a go. What advice do you anons have?

>>173650138
Do not do highest difficulty, 1's combat is kind of meh.

>>173650265
Please, if anything goes south i can just squat behind a wall

>>173650265
>1's combat is kind of meh.
Biotics is a blast

>>173650358
You say that now but enemies go-to strategy in ME1 is to bum-rush the fuck out of you.
Also prepare for alot of
>ENEMIES EVERYWHERE
>I WILL DESTROY YOU
>HOLD THE LINE
>GO GO GO

>>173650138
No do not do the highest if its insanity. 1's combat is passable for your first time.

>>173650408
Yeah but hes doing Soldier.

>>173647914
Sort of. The fun of that game series is inversely proportional to how good the story is for any given game.

ME1: best story, worst gameplay
ME2: Acceptable story, acceptable gameplay
ME3: Great gameplay, absolutely shit story, like holy shit how did the writers think that was a good idea.

>>173647914
>>173644720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7aUT13qtM

>>173650516
Been p easy so far, the bullet hose is too much fun. What ammo is the best though?
>>173650550
Meh
>>173651803
Hmmmm i wonder if my 2012 macbook can handle me3

>>173654627
You should adapt your ammo types to the situation.

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>>173654770
Gotcha. It seems like organics get fucked super fast and you really want anti-synth ammo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rWWX51gNvc

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>>173658131

>37 minutes

Oh god, i don't even feel like watching.

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>>173658131

>40 seconds in
>we've made stealthing missions far more challenging

>>173658131
>you can get traverse fire and rapid fire on gunners at the same time now
holy shit

>>173658131
Can I get a written down version instead?

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>>173658131

Well, at least it is happening.

>>173658131
>stealth nerfed to shit
>easier to infiltrate with 3-5 squadsize
>easier fights for 3-5 squadsize
>actual buffs from some classes early on
Ok, might actually do some LW2 1.3

>>173658131
fuck he didn't list the one change i wanted to know
rupture isn't a guaranteed crit anymore, just a crit boost and i need to know what it is to know if bring em on is worth taking just for rupture on units that otherwise get no crit

>>173644720
X-COM Apocalypse soundtrack

>>173663045
I'm not really a big fan of I think two of the dedicated battle music, but the rest of it is absolute top notch.

>>173667540

Very fast loading screen loading at incredibly high speeds

>>173667540
lel

Will the Guerilla Ops fail if I go do the Blacksite first or do missions not fail from doing other ones? I'm asking because I'd like to do the Blacksite before the other 2 Dark Events I'm not planning on preventing go into effect.
Basically what my plan of action is right now if I can do the Blacksite first is
>Blacksite
>Guerilla Op
>Scan and let Comm Facility finish building so I can expand and hit those facilities ASAP

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Thank fuck for mods (especially the EU ports) because Tier 2 and 3 customization in vanilla is awful.

>>173669052
I honestly don't know

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>>173585224

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902571918

>This is a really bad voice pack. The audio quality on this movie is terrible, and the mixing is worse. I made this voice pack out of an obligation. I didn't want to be here, and trust me, neither do you. Just ignore this one.
Wat

>>173667540

SonicTeam.jpg

>Flashbang nerfs

MAG NIFICENT

>>173676078
>the real battle is between player and developer
>if the player wins, I lose
magnificent game design philosophy, fuck you Lump

>>173676078
What are the exact nerfs?

I feel like Firaxis and Pavonis both tried to fix a problem that was already solved with Meld.
Meld offered a reward for playing aggressive and moving through the mission quickly instead of making it mandatory.

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>>173658131

>Assualt class changes:
Formidable grants 2 bonus ablative hit points instead of 1 armor
Close Encounters doesn’t work after Run and Gun
Hit And Run grants 1 bonus action point instead of 1 movement point
CCS now requires 2 ammo
Street Sweeper cone is 1 tile smaller, requires 4 ammo and +3 damages to unarmored targets
Chain Lighting can’t be used in concealment

>Grenadeir class changes:
Center Mass and Formidable swapped places
Sting Grenades and Dense Smoke swapped places
Salvo and Ghost Grenade swapped places
Sapper gains +1 environment damage
Dense Smoke now grants +10 defense
Chain Shot has a -10 aim penalty

>Gunner class changes:
Flush and Hail of Bullets swapped places
Demolition and Mayhem swapped places
Formidable, Shredder and Iron Curtain have gone down 1 place so Formidable is now Corporal
Rupture and Saturation Fire swapped places
Kill zone and Traverse Fire swapped places
Flush does 1 damages always, has +30 aim and grants -10 defense and -10 dodge to enemy for the rest of the turn
Hail of Bullets now needs 5 ammo
Iron Curtain has its cone wide increase with 1 or 2 tiles
Demolition needs 5 ammo
Rupture(not talked about in vid) grants a large bonus to crit chance instead of always crit

>Ranger class changes:
Ever Vigilant at Lance Corporal
Covering Fire at Staff Sergeant
Grazing Fire at Tech Sergeant
Implacable replacing Formidable
Covering Fire grants now -10 aim to any unit you shot in overwatch
Rapid Reaction now 1 shot at 1 unit. So not 3 shots at 1 unit

>Specialist class changes:
Revival and Medical swapped location
Sentinel and Cool under Pressure swapped location
Trojan and Failsafe swapped location
Full Override and Kill Zone swapped location
Sentinel now shoots at 2 different enemies

>Techical class changes:
Roust does now 50% damages
Concussion Rocket now has more environment damages, better chance to stun or disorient enemies
Phosphorus now shreds 1 with flamethrower
Firestorm now grants flat damages instead of modifier

>>173658131
>>173677534
>Sharpshooter is skipped

>Shinobi class changes:
Everything is different
Ghostwalker is now nerfed
Combatives is now on the tree at Corporal. Gains +10 dodge
Covert is buffed
Hard Target is now 3 dodge per enemy
Reaper is now at Tech Sergeant. Now has -3 damages on every single kill. Cooldown is reduced with 1
Tradecraft is now nerfed
Hit and Run is added at Gunnery Sergeant
New Perk: Whirlwind. When you hit a melee attack your granted a bonus movement point
Conceal now at Master Sergeant
Coup de Grace now grants +50 aim, +50crit and +2 damage

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>>173677534
>>173677582
That's very nice anon

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Changes found on the Forum:

Trail By Fire officer perk added: Any soldiers below the rank of sergeant will be automatically promoted after a successful mission with this officer
his bonus only applies if the commanding officer has this perk, and it does not grant bonuses to other officers on the mission

Quick Study psi perk added: Learn officer and AWC bonus abilities in half the time

Serial: Each kill also reduces damage on future hits

Flashbang: Some powerful enemies may be able to resist their effects

Faceoff: Cannot be used from concealment

Biggest Booms: Critical hits with grenades will grant +1 damage to ongoing damaging effects such as fire

Advanced Grenade laucher loses it grenade radius increase?

Note that capturing a regional tower will give the Resistance a working radio relay for the region


Psi Changes:
Fuse has a cooldown
Soulsteal heals a operative or gives ablative HP
Mind Merge gives +1 crit chance per 10 offensive psi score
Soul Merge gives a 1% crit bonus per 5 psi offense
Solance cleanses isorientation, mind control, panic and stun effects

>>173678452
>Faceoff: Cannot be used from concealment
lame

>>173678452
>Flashbang: Some powerful enemies may be able to resist their effects
I dislike shit like this mostly because it tends to be unintuitive. If all mechanical enemies ignore it it's fine, if it's bosses resisting with their pure willpower it's weird.

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>>173569631

Post music that fits a certain class.

>mec troopers
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS65IB7WL4s

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>>173677534
>>173677582

>>173678452
>Psi Changes

Wait. Are those a buff?

>>173678452
>Faceoff: Cannot be used from concealment

so grenades are the only proper way starting ambushes now? devs are fags

is there any reason to play xenonauts instead of openxcom

>>173683332
it was never the proper way apart from babby tier difficulty

>>173687384
Riot shields

>>173677458
They should just bring back meld

>>173690667
>>173690667
It wouldn't even be that hard for them to do something similar.
>Remove time limits on the missions
>Add resource caches on every mission(like the Smash and Grab missions, but everywhere)
>After breaking concealment, the enemies are allowed to start spotting them before you can
>Missions now have an OPTIONAL goal of fighting as one group or having a scout break and go after the resource caches( great use of concealment)
>Auto evac after accomplishing goal and/or beating all enemies on the map

There. I fucking fixed LW2 by turning it into LW1: The Resistance

>>173691042
>Add resource caches on every mission(like the Smash and Grab missions, but everywhere)
They wanted to do this with facility missions to encourage people to not stealth it but putting those on a map with an existing objective turned out to be too hard to implement due to engine limitations.

>>173692231
Dammit.

The only change I don't get is rapid reaction. Why bother changing that perk?

>>173692973
because

>>173692973
I think its to avoid stacking/wasting covering fire aim malus. So you get (up to) 3 guys with -10 aim instead of one guy with -30 or -10

Jim Lahey voicepack when?

>>173701816
perfect target for incendiary grenades

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>>173701816
>>173702227

>>173676228
If I remember the forum post it said something about making them less effective against elite or big units or something.

I use dense smoke so that's just as good and last longer anyways and just might mean I'll go all smoke for the support slots instead of one smoke one flash.

>>173705965
Didn't dense smoke get nerfed as well?

>>173707079
got halved

>>173677534
>nerfing Reaper

It's alright to have a pod-killing ability Pavonis

>>173687384
You too can enjoy the sprites a 1st year art student made by drawing his classmates

honestly it has no strategic depth

Xpiratez is so much better it's hilarious

That XCOM clone is out

Shock Tactics

someone buy it and tell me if it's good or not

>>173708661
I'm not sure if it's actually nerfed.

>>173709572
-3 damage on every kill is pretty nerfy, it's already risky to use since you risk grazing.

>>173709648
With grazing I suppose that's true. Just looking at the fact that you get it earlier and it has a lower cooldown.

Is XCOM2 fully finished yet (i.e. all expansions goty edition whatever)? Is TLW for it fully finished?

>>173710205
Still waiting on a theoretical expansion. Firaxis have been tight-lipped.

>>173710848
i hope they treated LW as the expansion and started working on terror from the deep

>>173710952
>i hope they treated LW as the expansion
I sure fucking hope not.

>>173710848
>>Still waiting on a theoretical expansion.
Goddamn. I want the "complete experience", guess I'll wait a few months and ask again, thanks!

Has TLW for XCOM1 been updated at all since the modding faggots got hired or did they abandon it or what?

>>173710980
Do you want more of the same or a brand new game?

>>173711035
Its updated to the full release of 1.0 and hasn't been touched since. Its basically done.

>>173711070
I'd like for them to spice up the vanilla game with something on the level of Enemy Within. Long War isn't that.

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>>173711035
LW1 is complete. There's nothing to update really.

How do I incorporate dense smoke into my builds? My medics always take drugs and my engineers always end up with offensive grenades.

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Been rewatching The Thing (both the 50s and 80s movie) while playing XCOM:EW lately. For some reason, I feel like these movies are closer to XCOM than Alien/Aliens

Anyone got any other movies/radio dramas to listen to while playing XCOM?

>>173708260
>>173707079
It did? Fuck off Lu,p I'm going to re-add that shit back.

>>173711652
Support engineers are very strong. You just have to decide to take it or not. Not every single medic need drug either.

>>173712964
Well I know it's unlikely, but if you haven't watched it there is always SG-1 which is pretty much just xcom with different aliens.

>>173713286
Smoke already gives +25 defense and removed the exposed crit bonus

Dank smoke was previously full cover in a can. Very powerful.

>>173717595
It also completely broke the AI before.
The guy who said it was basically a flashbang that lasted several turns was spot on. Makes no sense to nerf flashbangs but not dank smoke.

So, is the Shadow Chamber lying to you and forgetting about 12 enemy units a vanilla bug or can we chalk this one up to more magnificence?

>>173721487
nice

>>173711070
I'd like an Enemy Within style expansion, ta, then they can work on the several year process of creating XCOM 3.

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>>173576927
>>173579780

I miss captures and interrogations.

>>173722556
Vanilla bug

Happened in EW too. Probably an oversight with the way pods are handled.

o=p

how the fuck do i kill aliens

>>173733227
liberal use of high explosives

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>>173733968

beep

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>>173734109

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just started this game, no mods
did the mission to get spark

what the fuck man it took me like 20 fucking turns
why did the sectoid move so fucking slow making it take more than twice the time it should have?

>>173736517

The spark mission is something else, i really like it though.

>>173736961
it wasn't bad until the sectoid
it made a bunch of pointless movements and each of them was so slow I thought my game was lagging

>>173736517
I see someone went the lara croft route with a soldier

>>173737115

Maybe it was a bug, they're slow but not the point where you would think the game was lagging.

>>173606274
There's one thing i like Xenonauts...
MAG Weapons![spoiler/]

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How do I git gud? I just bought XCOM 2 and the default difficulty is kicking my butt

>>173740437

Medium cover is no cover
Don't hesitate in using grenades
90% chance to hit doesn't mean you're going to hit
Car cover is a death trap

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Is the air game in LW 1.0 cancer or is it tolerable now?

>>173740437
Explosives are your friend. Never hesitate to blow an enemy the fuck up. Flashbangs are your friend. They have huge AOE, reduce enemy aim, stop them from using abilities, remove overwatch, remove suppression, when used on a psionic enemy it kills their zombie or frees your soldier from mind control. Always always look for high cover. Grenadiers and rangers are the strongest classes (ignoring psi). For rangers you want shotgun and concealment perks. Using the sword is too risky. Always be aware that anytime you move someone up, you are risking activating aliens. With this in mind, try to use your first move to move up as far as you intend to that turn, and then move people up in positions behind that person. This will reveal the least amount of fog of war. Unless absolutely necessary, do not dash, always blue move. And do not dash a unit on your last move or move them up really far. Specialists are important for objectives. Build them with combat abilities in general, not medic perks.

For your base, first building you want is Guerilla Ops then Advanced Warfare Center. Focus on picking up engineers and clearing out your base for the free resources.
Concealment is about getting to the best position to start a fight as fast as possible. Find good cover and/or height advantage, then open up on the enemy. Always keep a look out of heigh advantage in general as it gives your soldiers +20 aim.

Kill advent scum!

Spare the Vipers.

why is xcom 2 so shit, fuck these stupid timers.

>>173741041
advocating your own genocide I see

>>173741092
t. beaglerush

>>173741262
Did the guy seriously never look into ANY of the remove timer mods? Would it hurt his ego if he modded out/changed most of his issues?

>>173741409
but dude timers suck i want to overwatch 40 times lmao

>>173741512
Then mod out the timers. Dammit you Australian wonder! Do what any smart person does and mod XCOM2/LW2 to your liking.

>>173741409
>Would it hurt his ego if he modded out/changed most of his issues?
maybe, i am under the impression he didnt even game ABA a chance because "recolor enemies"

>>173741606
Yea, but then it's not the "real" xcom experience.

>>173741728
Beagle spent fifty turns camping on gatecrasher

he has no room to complain

>>173741803
People actually watched some dude overwatch camp for a shitload of turns?

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>>173740583
>>173740845

Thanks friends

>>173741409
>>173741512
>>173741606
He already did campaigns without timers. At least get your facts straight before being dicks.

>>173741606
>Game about a small resistance fighting against a planet-wide threat with hyper-advanced technology and vastly superior numbers
>"W-W-WHY IS THE GAME GIVING ME TIME LIMITS?!"

>>173741974
>guy sees beagle's channel for the first time.txt

>>173569631
MEMORIES BROKEN THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN I'VE EVEN FORGOTTEN MY NAAAAAAAAME
Oh wait it's colored blue

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The god campaign might be back from the grave

>>173742770
O SHIT

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Commander, I have found a method to brainwash Vipers and have them obey us unconditionally. If you so wish, I can have them deployed immediately into the field.

I can also send a few to your room tonight if you want to test them personally.

>>173743415
No dice Tygan, I already have arrangements with an old friend from the last war.

>>173743415
>Nobody trusts Tygan the entire game

Is XCOM 2 redpilled?

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>>173742770

YES

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The Dawn of war 3 beta swallowed my weekend so i haven't made much progress with the other Wraith armor for my warden gear mod, but i wanted to post a preview of something, which is pretty much nothing but i made an additional belt, this one goes diagonally across the torso.

If you're wondering this mod pretty much has only one design philosophy: "Belts and pouches"

And in case you're wondering about the soldier's pose, it's just a really crappy animation i made so i could look better at the armors, since all but one of the default animations cover the entire torso, i probably wont release it since it's crap.

>>173746532
so seductive

The best time to do the blacksite mission is when you get have your fifth squad member,mag weapons, at-least 2 lieutenants, and before facing your first Codex fight, right?

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>>173746532

How is DoW III doing it for you?

>>173748586
There is no "best" time. I myself prefer to wait for the bar to max out before doing any story missions.

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>>173749794

It's ok, it does have a lot of Moba influences but obviously people saying that it's a moba are just exaggeration and/or shitposting.

The problems i have with the game right now are mostly balance issues, the early game elites are extremely overpowered, the lethality in DoW 3 is really high so some of these early game elites can wipe entire armies with one well place abilities, and of course you think "don't ever blob" but the problem is that the maps often force you to blob your troops.

As for the new game mode where you have to defend a power core, i don't really like it, at least not in 1v1s, the gimmick is that you have to destroy an energy shield, and then a turret and then the power core to win. But the problem is the turret, the turret has a lot of health and deals a lot of damage, and while i'm ok with an anti-rush mechanic, the problem is that games are usually won or lost by map control, once you have map control you are pretty much guaranteed to win unless you make a huge mistake.

So, you have map control, and your enemy has lost and is cowering in his base, now you have to wait until you can amass enough forces to take out the turret and win, it's pointless.

As for the art style, i hated it at first but having played it i don't really mind, it suits the Eldar and the Orks look great, Space Marines do look a bit meh because they don't look as gritty as they did in DoW , but you don't really have time to notice such things when you are actually playing the game.

tl;dr: It's fine, it's nothing amazing or anything but if you want a 40k RTS that's what this is. Either way there's an Open Beta in a couple of weeks so you can just try it by yourself then before buying.

Who else /x-piratez/ here?

I've played it at a few different stages in development. Last campaign I only got through November of the first year before dropping it because of bugs and boredom.

How is it now?

>>173746532
I mean thats fine with me. I personally love the mod, helps Tier 3 look less power-ranger and more tactical. This and the EU ports make Tier 3 customization way better.

>>173757429
When did you play it? Like, what version of the game and what did you start with? Alot has changed, so it would easier to detail if I knew what you are familiar with.

>>173759394
Think it was .99E1 so I've played with some of the bigger changes.

But the last time I got very far into the game was a while ago.. back when you began way more advanced and your starting craft was the Bonaventura.

>>173759885
>back when you began way more advanced and your starting craft was the Bonaventura.
Yeah that's the version I completed a campaign on. If you already played .99E1, then you probably are actually more in the know than I am. I dabbled in a few short lived campaigns, but I'm waiting till 1.0 to really invest. As I already said, I think you may know more than I do at this point because even though I played a slightly later version, I was only about three-four months in. There is always the changelog on the opencom forum if you want a straight list of things that have been added or changed:https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=3626.0

>>173760443
The campaign I got far in ended up breaking and being unrecoverable because of a bad research path that I didn't understand how to fix.

Same thing happened to this one. I spent several days playing months of a campaign that was unwinnable due to a different research bug that I learned about by reading the patch notes for the next version. I tried updating my save to the new one and it corrupted, so I dropped the game for a while.

>>173761364
Oh that sucks, haven't run into before. I suppose it's just even more of a reason to wait till 1.0. I like some of the stuff being added, but I'm not so sure about shit like weather. Just seems obnoxious and tedious, but idk. Early game I just skip cold missions, they don't even seem worth the trouble.

>>173761472
Yeah the weather system is tedium extreme. All the ability to customize loadouts and armor and such turns the game into a paper doll dress up simulator when you get further in. I think the mod creator's desire to make highly tunable and varied gear selection leads me more in the opposite direction where I just pick the most optimal across-the-board setup and never bother with 75% of the items.

I guess I'll continue waiting for 1.0 as well. Maybe by that time some of the fat will have been trimmed down and I won't feel like I'm setting up an entire military in dorf fort every time I want to send a craft out on a mission.

fantasy xcom when

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>>173768012
never ever

>want to play x2 again
>dont want to play long dong

jakeeeee we need an xpack

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>>173768012
I still fantasize about such an idea

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>>173768012
>>173768702
>>173768702
I remember long before XCOM2 came out how we imagined a mod overhaul doing that would work.
>Adventurer Company instead of XCOM
>Doing Quests for money and saving villages from monsters
>Classes remade into their fantasy equivalents
>Ayys remodeled into monsters. Vipers into Lamias, Advent Mec into giants and Ogres and more.

>>173768524
Play ABA2 then

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>>173754984

Good stuff t know.

>>173768012

yes pls

>>173768302

Never say never.

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>>173771287
NEVER EVER

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>>173772479

We shall see about that, Elite.

>>173772479
will the /xcg/ mod get updated for LW2?

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>>173774164
we have a mod?

IS SHOCK TACTICS ANY GOOD

>>173769750
Play Spectrum.

>>173774424
Yeah the names mod

How do I git gud at XCOM UFO defense? I got the gist of the basics but still suck

Who's that Aussie guy that did the ironman xcom runs that used to be (or so I presume) /ourguy/?

I want to watch his stuff again but can't remember what name to search.

>>173779031
beagle

>>173779067
Thanks you legend. Is he still solid?

>>173779137
he quit LW2 for now, because he's just sick of this shit
in my opinion he's burned out, but feel free to watch him.

>>173779175
Ahh that's fair enough, I'd probably be the same.

Thanks nonetheless, appreciate it.

Can't decide if i should colour my guys after their flags, or their class.

Also, i suppose there's nothing new info on the future of Xcom?

LW2 is such bullshit. HP boost to AI across the board, in an event i couldn't even prevent due a mere 22 hour mission?

ADVENT is the worst thing about xcom 2 prove me wrong

What's your deal with this beagle faggot? Why do you keep spamming him? I mean, what did he do, to make a general generally like him so much?

>>173783717
he's a sectoid that playes xcom LW very well and is fun to watch i guess?

>>173783717
he has been around for years and making videos when LW wasn't nearly as popular as it is now

when I&I was made, he was the only "good" youtuber making xcom stuff

Had a pretty fun time going through the game with "Playable Aliens" mod from Workshop, taking any drawing requests for Xcom'ified designs of Ayys if anyone wants any.

>>173784301
Chryssalids

>>173784301
Maybe a overdrive stimmed stun lancer

>>173784301
EU sectoid in XCOM gear with a rifle/shotgun thats too big for him

>>173784301
Shieldbearer, anything with the shieldbearer they have next to no art

Lol what's up w/ the mission rating of the game????
I am doing a mission i need to destroy data structure. I successfully destroy data transfer structure and kill most alien in the game. Then reinforcement came by, i decided to evac the mission due half of my squad are down and i cannot afford to lose any vets in my squad. Also that came by are just advent trooper and not worth of my time. The mission ended up failure due i needed to kill all aliens in that mission???

>>173770742
>playing ABA
Oh yeah because ADVENT gunslinger and his ONE DAMAGE adds to the experience.

>>173778907
spam smokes and explosives

>>173788946
Yes, because the gunslinger is the only new enemy in ABA2

>>173786328
Yes mr Brazilian.

>Mind Control an Andromedon on the second turn of a "rescue the VIP" mission
>use him to draw all the enemies away from the truck containing the VIP while my sharpshooter and grenadiers keep picking them off outside their line of sight
>start dashing my troops towards the extraction zone when it's just 1 Archon remaining
>the Archon keeps slashing him for 3 damage per turn while the Andromedon keeps missing his point blank 55 % shots
>they are still duking it out when I grenade the shit out of the reinforcements and the pod guarding the extraction zone and get the fuck out
I really wish there was an option to take that Andromedon with us, he would fit right into XCOM what with missing 4x 55% shots in a row and all

>>173789123
Mind controlling andromedons never turns out well for me. They always get killed and then charge me on the same turn.

>>173789058
Might as well be considering how few of them actually do anything but shoot and overwatch.

>>173789335
This was the first time for me when I felt I really got a huge value out of mind controlling an enemy, obviously because they never got a turn with LoS on my soldiers so they kept targeting the Andromedon, it was a very lucky map too since I was able to make concealed dashes hugging the right side of the map towards the truck and I only really had to right 1 pod between the truck and the extraction zone. Having 2 high rank grenadiers really makes the game a breeze though, salvo is just broken. Every alien gets a grenade to the face.

>>173714227
I can't let go of sapper and all my medics are psi

>No enemy visible
>Get poison spat on by an enemy in a different room, door locked, on a different floor
No sire, the AI do not cheat

>>173793724
cyka blyat comrade

I don't get LW2's dark event system.
I went on an infil mission that countered a spesific dark event, and after completing it, a week later i got a messaage that is was completed....

>>173794870
Maybe it was the same one twice?

>>173794368

Translation for the rest of us?

>>173794870
that a bug

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>>173751981

To think that people were afraid of these pretenders.

IS SHOCK TACTICS ANY GOOD

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>support on overwatch with guardian, superior perception, scope, repeater and tracer rounds
>crit kill a lancer, an officer and execute a sectopod on the same turn
CAN SOMEBODY STOP THIS MAN

xcom's RNG can be really rough when he fucks your asshole raw but on the really good days he just gently sucks your dick and damn it feels good

>move
>end turn
>x's moves into my view
>They get a free removement
>And then their turn starts

Why the fuck don't we?

>>173800119
Is this LW2? Yellow alert is dumb

There was this X2 campaign that Beagle was doing were he had such a broken Operative that he solo all the snakes in the pre-ruler room a la Reaper. What happened to that campaign? Did he finish it?

Is there a mod that makes it so the random generation doesn't use your modded customization options?

>>173741728

Didn't beagle use a shitton of mods for his EU/EW campaigns

Ok so I've only just heard about X-Piratez and I'm really confused now

Is it supposed to be a fetish game or something? There's all that weird stuff like how all your soldiers are female and everyone's clad in skimpy mad max clothes but then it's supposed to be a legit harder version of UFO Defense and a fan sequel to it?

>>173801662
>>mods for his EU/EW

Not really. Other than LW, EW was kind of really hard to mod so the real impact they had (other than the madness of some cosmetic mods or Commander's Choice) was limited at best.

>>173801191
I think it broke

>>173801662
His LW ones? Not really. At least no the campaign he finished.

>>173801993

See I swear he had a mod that allowed him to see alien line of sight