/sthg/ Sonic The Hedgehog General

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>>173480452
Yes, I do enjoy the boost formula games. I do think Generations is the best Sonic game since 3&K. I do think they're better games than fucking ShTH and Sonic 06. There's no way to argue otherwise without looking like a crazy person.

Everything that happened during the dark ages was Naka's fault. Don't even try to deny it.

Iizuka and Pontaff need to be booted from this franchise.

Can we not start the thread with this stupid argument?

>>173480635
You're too busy focusing on the bad games and ignoring the fact he gave us stuff like Advance and Rush. Actually know what you're talking about, please.

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>>173480695

Look, Iizuka & Naka have had their mistakes & their successes. Arguing over which one was better is retarded. Please drop it.

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>>173480278
Anon, she wouldn't be wishing for that.

>>173479996
>>173480238
Yuji left Sega while Sonic 06 was still in development. Don't blame him for that garbage.

>>173481031
That was about halfway through, right?

>>173480695
Nah. Last thread was civil. Someone needs to start shitposting.

>>173481141
Something like that. Yuji Naka formed Prope in March of 2006 and Sonic 06 released in November near the holiday season.

>>173481031
Fine. Then I'll blame him for the rest of the dark ages shit. Including, but not limited to: SA2, Heroes, ShTH and Riders. You know, the games that nearly destroyed the brand?

Say what you will about Iizuka but at least he actually gives a shit about the brand quality.

>>173481273
What is Lost World?

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>>173480462
>a Z33 roadster
>or toyota solara
both absolutely disgusting

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>>173481273

>SA2, Heroes, and Riders
>nearly destroyed the brand

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>>173481273
>Say what you will about Iizuka but at least he actually gives a shit about the brand quality.
Sonic 06, Sonic and the Lost Rings, Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic Free Riders, Sonic Boom, and Sonic Unleashed hurt the brand far more than those other games did.

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>>173481273
>SA2,Heroes, and Riders nearly destroyed the brand

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>>173481386
Lost World is better than any of those games. As shitty as it is, it's objectively a better game than any of those.

I would much rather play an ok-to-mediocre all-around game to completion than one that's about 25% decent but 75% unplayable garbage.

>>173481590
Iizuka had nothing to do with Sonic 06, the Storybook games, or Unleashed. He only has a "special thanks" credit for those. He didn't become head of Sonic Team until Unleashed was almost ready for release. He didn't have anything to do with Boom either. He's head of Sonic Team, not SEGA.

Among the Sonic games Iizuka actually had a hand in after Naka's departure, there's:

>Rivals 1&2
>Sonic 4
>Colors
>Generations
>Runners
>Lost World

And that's it. Oh, and he's producing Forces as well. Gee, that sure looks like a lot of fucking brand improvement.

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>>173470869
Nicole and most definitely Rotor.

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Bump with chao for you guys.

>>173482283
Muh heart

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>>173482283
aaaaaaaa
aww!

>>173482283
This is very cute. Good job!

>>173481273
Iizuka's shit is not even a brand or quality.

>>173482283
when do they fuck

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Fake hedgehogs get out

>>173481959
>Lost World is better than any of those games. As shitty as it is, it's objectively a better game than any of those.
Nigga, you must be introducing yourself to some new substances.

>I would much rather play an ok-to-mediocre all-around game to completion than one that's about 25% decent but 75% unplayable garbage.
The only real garbage you named was 06, but people have played that more than they ever do Lost World. That game has already been forgotten since it was boring as hell.

>Iizuka had nothing to do with Sonic 06, the Storybook games, or Unleashed. He only has a "special thanks" credit for those. He didn't become head of Sonic Team until Unleashed was almost ready for release. He didn't have anything to do with Boom either. He's head of Sonic Team, not SEGA.
My ass he wasn't. He may have not be "in charge" like he is now, but I assure you, he was involved in most of those games.


>Rivals 1&2
Shit.
>Sonic 4
Shit.
>Colors
Probably the only decent thing he made.
>Generations
Pretty much questionable in quality when you get over the nostalgia of Classic Sonic being in there.
>Runners
Forgettable.
>Lost World
Trash.

>And that's it. Oh, and he's producing Forces as well. Gee, that sure looks like a lot of fucking brand improvement.
Iizuka has not improved the brand. People still give Sonic a fuck-ton of criticism, and has made everything messy.

Honestly, just go tell your boss, Iizuka, that he has not kept any "quality" of the brand.

>>173482842
Metal rat

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>>173482283
That chao is copping a feel.

>>173483092
>Nigga, you must be introducing yourself to some new substances.
You're being contrarian. Literally everyone within the mainstream gaming community shares the exact same opinion.

>but people have played that more than they ever do Lost World. That game has already been forgotten since it was boring as hell.
So what you're saying is that Sonic 06 is better than Lost World simply by the fact that it's so horrible it's infamous? You seriously, honestly think, that Heroes and ShTH are better games?

>He may have not be "in charge" like he is now, but I assure you, he was involved in most of those games.
Apart from localization, no, no he wasn't.

>Rivals: Shit
Not Sonic Team.
>Sonic 4: Shit
It was a step in the right direction. If not for Sonic 4, we wouldn't have Sonic Mania. Also, not Sonic Team. It was a shock even for them, because Dimps was known for better games than that shoddy performance.
>Colors: Decent
I think you mean "the best Sonic game since 3&K". The game that every critic and fan ever agrees is a good game. Can you say that about anything prior?
>Generations: questionable
Oh please. You're acting like a crazy person at this point. I doubt you've even played it.
>Runners: forgettable
Then why have people been talking about it the last few threads? It's way better than Jump or Dash.
>Lost World: trash
Still better than anything Naka was doing.

>Iizuka has not improved the brand.
Except he has? Hype is higher than it ever was, and so are sales. It's also not hard to see that everyone in the industry is looking forward to the upcoming games.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and are just trying to bait me, so I won't indulge you any further.

>>173482283
The part behind her left arm bothers me. I can't unsee it, it doesn't look right. Am I the only one?

>>173483848
Yes. I don't see anything.

>>173483929
It looks like there's an abnormally large amount of distance between her back and her stomach. Maybe it's just me being tired. I'm going to bed in a minute.

>>173483734
>You're being contrarian. Literally everyone within the mainstream gaming community shares the exact same opinion.
I have not seen a single person praise Lost World as a good Sonic game. All I hear is people calling it a bland Super Mario Galaxy ripoff with shitty jokes and butchered characterizations.

>So what you're saying is that Sonic 06 is better than Lost World simply by the fact that it's so horrible it's infamous? You seriously, honestly think, that Heroes and ShTH are better games?
06 may be shit, but at least it's memorable. It's basically a meme. People even in the current year go out and play it because of that. Nobody cares about Lost World, it's shovelware. And yes, Heroes and ShtH are better than it. At least people actually enjoyed them to an extent.

>Apart from localization, no, no he wasn't.
I don't why you're enforcing that Iizuka has not been involved with Sonic when he was there every step of the way. He just wasn't the sole guy in charge.

>Rivals: Shit
>Not Sonic Team.
That was one of Iizuka's games though.
>Sonic 4: Shit
>It was a step in the right direction. If not for Sonic 4, we wouldn't have Sonic Mania. Also, not Sonic Team. It was a shock even for them, because Dimps was known for better games than that shoddy performance.
Sonic 4 was an actual game that damaged the brand. It made people give up on Sega making a 100% successor to the classics.
>Colors: Decent
>I think you mean "the best Sonic game since 3&K". The game that every critic and fan ever agrees is a good game. Can you say that about anything prior?
"the best Sonic game since 3&K"
Are you baiting now? NO ONE has said this. People just saw as something different compared to past games. A one-timer. The minute it became the standard to the franchise is when it everyone disowned it.

>>173484575
>Generations: questionable
>Oh please. You're acting like a crazy person at this point. I doubt you've even played it.
The only decent gameplay was Classic Sonic. Modern Sonic was just glorified QTEs with that boost Mechanic. And the story shouldn't have even existed since it was such an amount of nothing.
>>Runners: forgettable
>Then why have people been talking about it the last few threads? It's way better than Jump or Dash.
A few threads on 4chan doesn't warrant it being remembered. It's just like Jump and Dash: Forgettable mobile shit.
>Lost World: trash
>Still better than anything Naka was doing.
Literally untrue. Stop defending that lifeless husk of a game. Go play Super Mario Galaxy.

>Except he has? Hype is higher than it ever was, and so are sales. It's also not hard to see that everyone in the industry is looking forward to the upcoming games.
Literally nonsense. Sales have not improved since than and Sonic still gets criticism like always. Oh what? Do memes, Big the Cat, and kissing up to faggots like Arin Hansen improve the brand that much? Or is it the ripping off of Mario thing?

>You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and are just trying to bait me, so I won't indulge you any further.
Good. I really don't want to hear the biased and misinformed crap you spew. Please just silence yourself.

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>>173483512
CUTE Metal rat

>>173484953
The brand started to earn people back with Generations and Colors but then Lost World and Boom came around turning Sonic once again into a public joke. That's why Sega is trying to appeal to nostalgia so hard with Mania and Forces.

>>173485464
I don't see how Forces appeals to nostalgia.

>>173485464
>appeal to nostalgia so hard
>with Forces.
Sorry, but I'm not really seeing it outside of "muh classic sonic."

>>173485559
Just by having Classic Sonic there.

>>173484575
>>173484953
>I have not seen a single person praise Lost World as a good Sonic game.
I said it was a shitty game. Can't you read? You're probably a nigger, so probably not.

>At least people actually enjoyed them to an extent.
Hell, I enjoyed Lost World to an extent. It wasn't until halfway through the second world that it started shitting itself. And it had far better aesthetics and writing.

>I don't why you're enforcing that Iizuka has not been involved with Sonic when he was there every step of the way. He just wasn't the sole guy in charge.
Anon, he didn't even live in Japan until mid-to-late 2008. He was part of Sega Studio USA. He contributed greatly to the dark ages, but had fucking nothing to do with 06. If he did, he'd be in the credits. But he's fucking not other than "Special Thanks". Even Naka, as a producer, had to approve of the decisions Sonic Team was making. Iizuka did less than that.

>That was one of Iizuka's games though.
He can't magically make Backbone Entertainment not suck.

>Sonic 4 was an actual game that damaged the brand. It made people give up on Sega making a 100% successor to the classics.
Sonic 4 had better metacritic scores than any 3D game that had come before, and both critics and fans were calling it a step in the right direction. At the same time, Unleashed, the Storybook games and Sonic 06 were de-listed. It LITERALLY improved the brand. This is not up for debate, it doesn't fucking matter what you thought about the game, we have actual, literal, objective data that ACTUALLY PROVES the brand was improving. And I never saw any comments back then that said people gave up, if anything people couldn't tell the difference until months later.

>Are you baiting now? NO ONE has said this.
LMAO http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sonic+colors+best+game+in+years

>Modern Sonic was just glorified QTEs with that boost Mechanic.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>173486426
>It's just like Jump and Dash: Forgettable mobile shit.
>mobil is irrelevent guyz
Don't make me laugh.

>Literally untrue.
Ask anyone who played both Lost World and Shadow The Hedgehog to completion and they will tell you the same thing. ANYONE.

>Go play Super Mario Galaxy.
holy shit are you saying Galaxy is a bad game now aahahahahahahahaah

>Sales have not improved since than
Oh. My. God. Do I seriously have to break out sales charts to prove your stupid ass wrong, how Colors and Generations are the best-selling Sonic games since Heroes?

>and Sonic still gets criticism like always.
Really? Because I've heard nothing but positive vibes about Generations, and everyone including mainstream media and tryhard critics who bashed Sonic for years are looking forward to the new games.

>Oh what? Do memes, Big the Cat, and kissing up to faggots like Arin Hansen improve the brand that much?
Yes. They do. You may not like it, but that's called publicity. Grow up. The Sonic social media has a had a major impact on how the franchise is viewed.

>Good. I really don't want to hear the biased and misinformed crap you spew. Please just silence yourself.
I would, but then you decided to be a retarded faggot. So I made it my mission to blow your bullshit out of the water.

Can you retards take this shit somewhere else?

>>173485559
Then you are legit blind sir.
It was showing it's big, pudgy bod, blue face in the july trailer.

Also not that anon. I say that Mania was a great way to start Classic Sonic side series align the Modern Games. And stop putting classic sonic and his elements in the 3d games making Modern Sonic a newer feel.
Would be a nice compromise to both fanbases.

>There are people that think that anything post-3&K and pre-Colors that wasn't Advance or Rush was passable
>>173486540
>STOP ARGUING IN MUH HUG BOX
Fuck off

>>173486426
>You're probably a nigger, so probably not.
SICK BURN!!!!!!

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That was quite a struggle, the PC port is pretty good, but I can't believe they never fixed time trial online. I guess I'll have to live with always being one achievement away from all of them. Kinda bullshit.

Wish Tails Kicks Ass would get online again again soon, ran out of downloaded comic issues.

>>173486585
>Let me act like you've said something you didn't

More like stop going in fucking circles just so you can try & get the last word in. Fuck off.

>>173486672
Use our Mega archive.

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I have an idea, what if someone mods in older levels from past Sonic games into the PC version of Forces?
Sonic fans everywhere could then bitch about how levels from SA2 don't magically look better in a new engine, following by confusion as to why the game feels weird and doesn't play the same way it used to despite the clear physics differences between the games, and then say how despite the fact these are just level ports the fans are still better than Sega.
They could also avoid making original levels outside of the occasional prototype level that is always in prototype stage.
There can also be ironic meme levels.

>>173486672
I managed to get the Time Trial achievement. Navigating the menu was like navigating a minefield avoiding the crashes.

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>>173480462

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>>173486746
That only has a chunk of recent issues doesn't it? I'm looking for issues 116-150 in particular, I'm trekking through the dark times. Not a huge deal either way, I was jumping to comics only because I was planning on spending all night doing time trial mode on Generations, not knowing that the time trial mode is broken on the PC version. May just go back to SA2 and grind chao stats.

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>>173487023
Nigga why don't you go and take a look yourself? It's mostly complete, probably missing the latest issues but has everything else.

>>173487023
The mega archive in the pastebin has all of them up to 288.

>>173486996
>LOOK MA I POSTED MY FANGAME AGAIN

>>173486903
I don't know how you did it, since Chemical Plant Act 1 and 2 are bugged. And Planet Wisp Act 1 and 2 are bugged as well, I can only do Act 1 and 2 of Green Hill Zone. That this wasn't fixed despite being tied to an achievement isn't great.

>>173486426
>I said it was a shitty game. Can't you read? You're probably a nigger, so probably not.
That's real nice, /pol/. Really shows you're not a baiting shitposter. You know you lowered the value of the rest of your post right?

>Hell, I enjoyed Lost World to an extent. It wasn't until halfway through the second world that it started shitting itself. And it had far better aesthetics and writing.
Look right there. You just admitted the game took a nosedive. The only thing I agree with you with is the aesthetics. The writing was a joke.

>Anon, he didn't even live in Japan until mid-to-late 2008. He was part of Sega Studio USA. He contributed greatly to the dark ages, but had fucking nothing to do with 06. If he did, he'd be in the credits. But he's fucking not other than "Special Thanks". Even Naka, as a producer, had to approve of the decisions Sonic Team was making. Iizuka did less than that.
But you were denying that Iizuka had anything to do with Sonic before Colors, which was bullshit

>He can't magically make Backbone Entertainment not suck.
Doesn't matter. He was the main showrunner in that game.

>Sonic 4 had better metacritic scores than any 3D game that had come before, and both critics and fans were calling it a step in the right direction. At the same time, Unleashed, the Storybook games and Sonic 06 were de-listed. It LITERALLY improved the brand. This is not up for debate, it doesn't fucking matter what you thought about the game, we have actual, literal, objective data that ACTUALLY PROVES the brand was improving. And I never saw any comments back then that said people gave up, if anything people couldn't tell the difference until months later.
Literally pulling shit our of your ass. The brand has not been improved and even a lobotomized monkey could see that. I want to see this "objective data" on all of this, and if it's even real: it's dated. Come the fuck on.

>>173487023
Do you think Cheese actually gets happy when Cream gets petted?

>>173487265
Can you two just fuck & be done with it?

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>>173487171
>>173487168
Oh shit, I was looking at the wrong link like a fuck. The night has been saved.

>>173487269
Cheese hasn't been expanded on at all in canon games so no idea, in X I'd imagine he'd get jealous, but X was also pretty inconsistent with characterization in general.

>>173487205
Sadly, I don't remember the exact order I did for it (I actually unlocked the achievement on this exact day 2 years ago), but I know I constantly had to switch between the act 1 & 2 menus to get to my chosen level. It still crashed a lot, even if I finished the levels and never got back to the menu, but it still counted somehow.

You can try following this guide, your mileage may vary, of course.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=385850181

>>173486426
>LMAO http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sonic+colors+best+game+in+years
Dated.

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Nice defense. Literally proved nothing to defend your QTE. Get out of here.

>>173486508
>Don't make me laugh.
It's literally true.

>Ask anyone who played both Lost World and Shadow The Hedgehog to completion and they will tell you the same thing. ANYONE.
That's implying anyone even played Lost World. The game is shit, no one remembers it.

>holy shit are you saying Galaxy is a bad game now aahahahahahahahaah
That's you thinking that, retard. Lost World is basically a bootleg Galaxy. Everything you like about Galaxy is will not be found in Lost World.

>Oh. My. God. Do I seriously have to break out sales charts to prove your stupid ass wrong, how Colors and Generations are the best-selling Sonic games since Heroes?
06 is always best selling. Did it save the brand?

>Really? Because I've heard nothing but positive vibes about Generations, and everyone including mainstream media and tryhard critics who bashed Sonic for years are looking forward to the new games.
You must be living under a rock.

>Yes. They do. You may not like it, but that's called publicity. Grow up. The Sonic social media has a had a major impact on how the franchise is viewed.
Memes, Big the Cat, and Arin Hansen? Wow, real impact.

>I would, but then you decided to be a retarded faggot. So I made it my mission to blow your bullshit out of the water.
You have yet to do that. First you need to be educated on what you're even defending first.

>>173487205
>>173487535
Actually, here's another one that has pictures.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148603227

>>173454362

He sure doesn't look like he wanted to get licked anon.

WHAT IS THE 3RD PLAYSTYLE IN FORCES?!

>>173488002
We get to shoot stuff with the Tornado again.

>>173488002
Big the Cat fishing.

>>173488078
Webber, please.

>>173487265
>You just admitted the game took a nosedive.
NO FUCKING SHIT, RETARD. So did Heroes. And Shadow. Are you saying those games were good the whole way through? REALLY? WOW. Just fucking WOOOOW. Even though Lost World took a nosedive, it never quite reached the nosedive that those games took.

>But you were denying that Iizuka had anything to do with Sonic before Colors, which was bullshit
No, I said this, you fucking idiot:
>>173481959
>Iizuka had nothing to do with Sonic 06, the Storybook games, or Unleashed.
>>173483734
>Apart from localization, no, no he wasn't.
Can you fucking read?

>Doesn't matter. He was the main showrunner in that game.
He was fucking supervisor. Do you have the slightest idea how little that means?

>and if it's even real: it's dated. Come the fuck on.
Doesn't matter. We're not arguing about the brand's quality as it stands right now. We're arguing about Iizuka's improvement of the brand over Naka. Quit moving the goalposts.

>>173487619
>Dated.
Doesn't matter. You said nobody ever said Colors was the best game since Sonic 3. I proved you wrong. Act like an adult and admit defeat.

>Nice defense. Literally proved nothing to defend your QTE. Get out of here.
Post gameplay footage to prove you've played the game before you make such ridiculous statements.

>It's literally true.
And that's why you're not in the industry. Because mobile fucking matters, whether you like it or not.

>That's implying anyone even played Lost World. The game is shit, no one remembers it.
Nice defense. Literally proved nothing to defend your shitty edgelord game. Get out of here. :)))))

>>173488375
>06 is always best selling.
>You must be living under a rock.
I have no words. At this point I am 100% convinced you're just baiting me because you have no arguments left.

>Memes, Big the Cat, and Arin Hansen? Wow, real impact.
Sega being willing to poke fun at themselves improves their image by a fuckton. Also, Game Grumps has almost 4 million subscribers. 4 million people are watching him endorse Sonic. That's impact. Get over it.

>First you need to be educated on what you're even defending first.
Educated? LOL. I didn't realize I needed a degree in Autismology. Are you the same faggot who talked about his worthless college degree last thread?

>>173487338
>no idea
Just lie to me and invent a cute little story like that one anon always does.

Reminder that Boost is the only viable 3D Sonic style and that Adventurecucks need to realize that their games were garbage

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I'm in a mood.

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I think all Sonic gameplay styles have their value & there's no point in arguing over them. Can't we just learn to get along, /sthg/?

>>173488717
O-oh my.

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>>173488769
>getting along
>on the internet
There will never be peace among you people.

>>173488375
Jesus Christ, your autism is still going.

>NO FUCKING SHIT, RETARD. So did Heroes. And Shadow. Are you saying those games were good the whole way through? REALLY? WOW. Just fucking WOOOOW. Even though Lost World took a nosedive, it never quite reached the nosedive that those games took.
How is Heroes a bad game again? Anyway, Shadow had a lot of flaws, but it wasn't a soulless, boring, forgettable ripoff like Lost World.

No, I said this, you fucking idiot:
Let me stop you right there, dumbo. No matter how you try to throw it, the man WAS involved in those games. You're trying to dodge it. He did more than just localizations.
>Can you fucking read?
I should be asking you that instead, bucko.

>He was fucking supervisor. Do you have the slightest idea how little that means?
He still says what goes and how the game was conceived. It was one of the games he took full control over.

>Doesn't matter.
Oh yes it does matter.
>We're not arguing about the brand's quality as it stands right now.
Funny since that was part of your argument.
>We're arguing about Iizuka's improvement of the brand over Naka. Quit moving the goalposts.
There is no goalpost moving. Iizuka did not improve the brand.

It's almost 4 AM. Stop arguing and go to sleep.

>>173488884
>How is Heroes a bad game again? Anyway, Shadow had a lot of flaws, but it wasn't a soulless, boring, forgettable ripoff like Lost World.
>Shadow wa a terrible game but I liked it so it's better than Lost World

>>173488375
>>173488452
>Doesn't matter.
Here you go again.
>You said nobody ever said Colors was the best game since Sonic 3. I proved you wrong. Act like an adult and admit defeat.
It simply isn't, idiot. Try to say that to someone now and see if you get any agreement. I doubt you'll get your desire results.

>Post gameplay footage to prove you've played the game before you make such ridiculous statements.
What kind of fucking shit is this? I wouldn't be calling it anything if I hadn't played the game. It sounds like you haven't played it.

>And that's why you're not in the industry. Because mobile fucking matters, whether you like it or not.
Doesn't matter with Sonic like you're saying. Nobody cares about Sonic's Mobile shit.

>Nice defense. Literally proved nothing to defend your shitty edgelord game. Get out of here. :)))))
>:)))))
I'm not even bothering.

>I have no words. At this point I am 100% convinced you're just baiting me because you have no arguments left.
I have yet to see any arguments from you that are not biased and unstable.

>Sega being willing to poke fun at themselves improves their image by a fuckton. Also, Game Grumps has almost 4 million subscribers. 4 million people are watching him endorse Sonic. That's impact. Get over it.
It's one thing to poke fun of yourself, and it's another to constantly give the spotlight to people who hate your brand instead of actual fans.

>Educated? LOL. I didn't realize I needed a degree in Autismology. Are you the same faggot who talked about his worthless college degree last thread?
No proper response since this is unrelated to me.

>>173488717
Y-Yoto! That's lewd!

>>173488717
Gimme some yuri next time, Yoto-sama.

>>173488884
>>173489302
IT DOESN'T MATTER

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>>173488884
>How is Heroes a bad game again?
Are you kidding me?
>rails in place of level design
>shitty collision detection
>swapping characters for increasingly mundane tasks
>levels that go on for 20 fucking minutes
>have to play the game 4 times with no variation

>>173489089
This exactly.

Shadow WAS soulless. In the sense that it just copied what everyone else was doing with grimdark guns and vehicles and shit, (it WAS a ripoff) and tacked on mind-numbingly boring collectathon crap for every level. I don't give a flying fucking dogshit how forgettable Lost World was, it was still a billion times more fun than Shadow ever was. In any universe.

>You're trying to dodge it. He did more than just localizations.
Describe, in detail, what he did, and provide evidence. Otherwise there's not a fraction of a fact to back that up.

>He still says what goes and how the game was conceived. It was one of the games he took full control over.
Rivals didn't suck because of its concepts. It had the potential to be a great game. It's not even terrible. Backbone Entertainment just suck at making good mechanics.

>Funny since that was part of your argument.
no???
???
?????????????????????
pic related

>Iizuka did not improve the brand.
I literally proved that he did. You literally admitted that he did. I don't know what the hell is going on with you, but I can feel your sanity slipping away further with each consecutive post.

>>173489862
NOW WHAT HAPPENS

>>173489890
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT

>>173489302
>>173489885
>It simply isn't, idiot. Try to say that to someone now and see if you get any agreement. I doubt you'll get your desire results.
You're right. They'd say Generations is the best game instead. OH.

>I wouldn't be calling it anything if I hadn't played the game. It sounds like you haven't played it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>Nobody cares about Sonic's Mobile shit.
Except, you know, the massive audience of children that like Sonic and are playing on mobile instead of consoles. If there wasn't a market, Sega would not have been making so many mobile games over the last 5 years.

>I have yet to see any arguments from you that are not biased and unstable.
I have yet to see any arguments from you that are not either factually wrong or based on the most absurd contrarian opinions possible.

>It's one thing to poke fun of yourself, and it's another to constantly give the spotlight to people who hate your brand instead of actual fans.
Have you seen Arin say anything bad about Sonic since he did stuff with the social media team? No. And that's because Meme Man is changing his opinion through money. It's a win-win for both of them.

>>173489014
I'd rather get Cancer-AIDS then make it look like he's won this stupid little argument. (that he started, btw)

>>173489951
>Being this obsessed with winning an argument on the internet

Go to bed already. You both look like jackasses.

>>173489885
>>173489951
I'm not even bothering with you anymore. It's fucking late. It's because of you why this thread is full of shitposts. I guess I should blame myself too for replying to your nonsense. Your victory may be hollow, but I'm pretty sure you'll take whatever I hand to you. So here it is.

But I will tell you this: your priorities are misguided.

>>173490087
This whole post reeks of desperation to make yourself look better after I blew you the fuck out. Run away with your tail between your legs and don't come back until you learn how to argue

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>>173490221
Oh fuck off. Even I'm not that autistic.

>>173490221
Are you finally satisfied, retard?

>>173490260
Nice shop

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Shaddup nerds

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>>173490291
It'd be pretty hard for me to shop something within a minute.

>>173490279
Yes, yes I am. Now piss off before I humiliate you again you sack of shit

>>173490308
Kek.

>>173490354
I wasn't even that anon, stupid.

>>173490372
Sure you aren't.

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Reposting.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Dpl4tJjJmn

>>173490494
Can you replace Kirk Thornton already?

>>173490494
>FOOOOLS

>>173490494
Thank you, Shadowanon. Amazing that despite how decent the last few threads have been, some people still feel the need to act like a fucking idiot.

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JUST

>>173488717
>>173489494
With Sticks

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>>173488375
>>173488452
>>173488590
>>173489951
>>173490087
>>173490221

You are both very autistic.

You also both have a massive case of shit taste

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https://youtu.be/rhos7FppAgU

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>>173492924
Why

>>173492924
I came.

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>>173492924

>>173492924
Can this stop being posted? Christ almighty.

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I like the sonic games.

>>173493289
It was only posted once two threads ago. Calm your literal shit.

>>173493378
Once is more than enough, thank you.

Are the comics really kill? Any place I can download the last issues?

>>173494848
No one really knows.

>>173495069
Depends on Sega

>>173488717
Please tell me there are a nsfw blog of Yoto's art.

Amy with boobs is cute.

>>173488717
Does Sonic even like tits?

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I randomly google image searched Tux the penguin, and got this. The Sonic fandom is downright magical sometimes.

>>173496347
I feel something was lost in the transition to 'gemsonas' and equine ocs, can't put my finger on what

>>173496347
It was a bit of a meme for a while to draw characters in "Sonic style".

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I don't know why I still come here everyday for the past 2 and a half years. I hardly ever play the games these days.

In fact, let me fix this. What's the Riders series like? Never played them.

>>173496685
I like the first one a lot, it's pretty cool if you are into the kind of edgy teenage sonic.

Haven't played the other 2, I imagine the Kinect one isn't great.

>>173496685
Just download the first one from the op pastebin, it's alright.

Some people like zero gravity, everyone hates the kinect game.

>>173496685
A surprisingly steep learning curve early on, especially the second one. Once you get past that, they're honestly kinda mediocre as racing games, some good ideas but overall let down by sometimes wonky controls. Still fun though.

Third one was a Kinect game and therefore complete trash.

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>>173496685
ZG features one of the best Soundtracks a Sonic Racing game could offer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXg344Olr1Q

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If Illzuka and Aaron Webber meet an untimely demise.
Who would you want to run the Producer/Director and PR gigs?

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If the next Sonic title doesn't have a Leimotif in it I am going to cap a bitch in the head.

>Leitmotif - a recurrent theme throughout a musical or literary composition, associated with a particular person, idea, or situation.

Post your favorite examples of a leitmotif in a game.

I'll go with an easy one. Live and Learn's riff is everywhere in SA2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srx-lWpwcec [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghvUGMloQ18 [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_urTqcVwJc [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5qGQ5a0Y8 [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psBqjP73_5k [Embed]

And the coolest one is probably in the biolizard fight

https://youtu.be/yx90TMgFv94?t=49 [Embed]

And it still wouldn't surprise me if I'm missing 1-2 songs that still have a live and learn influence

>>173490790
This guy must have joined at an unusually peaceful time.

>>173499106
Have they been doing that these past few years? I honestly stopped noticing, especially because the last 2 or so main games had no memorable music to them other than the Eggman theme in Lost World.

>>173499241
Sonic Lost World basically has the Main theme/First Stage as its Leimotif in multiple cases along the soundtrack. But its not really memorable.

With the riders talk was there ever a picture of riders!Bump or boom!Bump?

>>173500043
Who knows? the booru gets updated once in a blue moon so it's not like we'd know

>>173500043
Someone did like one pic of boom!Bump and boom!Sage being carried around by boom!Knuckles.

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>>173500043
>>173500217

>>173500318
Is sage a girl or a girl (male)?

>>173500369
Sage is a girl (L'Oréal)

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http://www.glixel.com/interviews/peter-moore-talks-leaving-electronic-arts-for-liverpool-fc-w475540

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thoughts on enemies with health bars.
I'm not really a fan It tends to break the flow of the level. Also I don't think the gameplay is suited to it, with aspects like touch damage and the homing attack.


I'm talking more about in the main sonic gameplay not diversions like Battle, RPG, Werehog, boom etc.

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Any tips on digital inking? I think I might have to turn down my sensitivity because I keep getting little tail ends on my lines.

>>173501289
It was only really acceptable because you had the power characters.

Unless they serve a very specific porpuse yes, they just break the flow of the game. But it's worth keeping in mind that sometimes the slow down is intentional.


>>173501698
I want to fuck that hedgehog.

>>173501774
>had the power characters.
I got that, fly for light range attacks, speed for medium attacks and power for heavy attacks. I still think they overdid it. there could be others ways to make the power character useful.

>the slow down is intentional.
that might make it seem worst. Heroes had an issue with padding.

>>173501289
I think heroes did an ok job with health bars. it was really when the health got ludicrously high that it went to shit (e-1000s?, and those big hammer goliaths)

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I love ALL all of these characters so much. Through the good and bad times, I couldn't bare to abandon the series because of how much I love Sonic and his friends and all of their adventures.

>>173502184
kudos to you anon but I need something new to talk about, whether that be games or comics. If not all I'll end up doing is joining the circlejerk of people who believe most games past 06 are trash. Sega needs to make something of quality and worth a damn.

https://mobile.twitter.com/undefined/status/850715663131754498

>>173502839
So Amy is Sonic's weakness. Kek.

Sassy Acorns

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So what skills do you fellow /sthg/ers have? Can you draw? Can you into music? or 3D?

>>173505208
2d, Draw and a bit of 3D

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IS THAT A

>>173505485
I dont even know what game is this. So dont expect everything that say sonic be a sonic reference

>>173505545
>I dont even know what game is this.
Persona 5

>>173505545

>So dont expect everything that say sonic be a sonic reference

>Socks that let one run as fast as a hedgehog

gee

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>>173500369
You should always know every oc of a social media sub group/thread has to be a pure female.

Silly Anon.

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>>173505728
>that face

>>173505728
>super athletic spy
>redesigns her as a lardass

>>173499106
>>173499241
Unleashed and Lost World had what you're describing here.

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>>173505728
>that body.

>>173507360
But those are huge for her size. She had even bigger in SA2.

>>173505545
Persona's a SEGA franchise now so it's more than likely

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>>173507747
That head is even bigger than a Sonic head. It's like he can't draw characters anymore without adding something huge to them.

>>173507360
that fur detail is creeping me out

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>>173507373
Rouge the Thicc

>>173506924
why was this deleted?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPdJm9kbbI&feature=youtu.be

How DO we make Sonic cool again?

Elise when

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>>173509028
I'll try and do her in a sling bikini at some point this summer

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>>173508854
Problematic artist I guess.

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>>173508993
>How DO we make Sonic cool again?
Make good video games consistently.

Stop making him look lame AKA get better writers.

>>173509086
>problematic artist
wut?

>>173508854
Our Swatbots are pure.

>>173509085
Not fair! There may be Elisefags here but consider that Shahra and Merlina fags exist too!

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>>173509203
Talking about him is considered drama because he himself causes a lot of drama.

>>173509308
pure huh?

>>173509149
>>173509085

>>173505208
Writing, I wanna say

>>173509565
oh. ok? maybe someone should mention/list all the "problematic" artists so we'll know whose art we can't post

>>173496259
It's of my personal opinion that everyone likes tits. At least a little.

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>>173507360
>deleting OFFICIAL art
Now this is just silly.

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>>173509551
I'm not that good and it will take me a million years to do anyway

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>still no Sonic rhythm game

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>>173509705
MTD
Ravnic
Shroak
Excito
SSSonic2
Apostle

>>173509984
Isn't there like a rythm minigame in any of the storybook games?

>>173510009
>mentioning he who must not be named without a spoiler
Triggered.

>>173509984
Still no sonic game where you race through the level to the beat of the music, like Rayman Legends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m5YQrucis8

>>173510009
what exactly did all these artists do? are all of them lewd artists too?

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>Sonic Mania announced
>think it's a bad idea to let fans make a official game
>now looking forward to the semi-32bit glory
It will be better than __!

>>173510374
>what exactly did all these artists do?
Not going to discuss this while swatbots and potential fanboys are watching, but Ravnic is only problematic in /sthg/ because of someone spamming the general with his shitty drawings from time to time.
>are all of them lewd artists too?
Yes, except maybe >>173510298

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>>173510578
>you will never make it to the big leagues like Taxman and make an offical Sonic game

>>173510578
Freedom Planet will look better

>>173510814
Go away, Strife.

>>173510760
After he fucked off to tumblr he too started doing lewd.
Its shit. I bet he still can't handle our criticism. I miss shitting on him but at the same time his art was too much of a fire starter for us like Kayla-Nas and that was a whole different bag of autism.

>>173511021
>that fat goblin
Oh right. Forgot to add her too, but she isn't as frequently posted as the other hacks.

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>>173510425
Why Anon?
Now my heart is melting.

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>>173511169
>>173510009
Ah, shit. Forgot DreamcastZX1 and Cloudz too.

>>173510814
Fuck off Strife fanboy

Here's hoping I don't gradually become infamous and universally hated on the general like some of these others.

>>173511621
Sorry, buddy but you probably are.

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>>173511597
This guy gets it.

>>173511681
well I guess the only thing to do now is start a patreon, fail to deliver on my promises and then throw a tantrum about how people only want to see me draw sonic girls fucking, despite that being what I created the patreon for.

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>>173511621
>>173511681

So I'm guessing by this rate every Sonic artist is gonna be on this list then?

>>173511621
If you can't handle stiff criticism then you've already lost. I do enjoy making artist cry and defend their shit drawings.

>>173511852
>>173511597
I hate this meme so god damn much

>>173511597
Is he sniffing his armpits?

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>>173511950
hol up

>>173511901
Don't forget to whine about nobody taking your clean art seriously, even though it looks bland as fuck and do streams where you complain about other artists and that you're not as popular as you deserve.

>>173511904
It's weird. Even the good ones have some bullshit behind them, like Aoki.

>>173512090
>aoki
fucking wot mate?

Whats /sthg/ opinion on content creators. Like Let's Play streamers or designers?
Those that don't create OC but often do sprite animation as a hobby?
Any favorites?

>>173512090
>Aoki
Gonna need you to explain this one. I'd think you would've went with drawloloverlala as a better example.

>>173511904
We should have a hate week, let's take every artist here and shit on them.

Yoto - Always draws the same shit, waifufag
Chauvels - Everyone looks like they have manly shoulders, draws for ASO
Korps! - Probably a cunt
Rik - Everyone looks like they were drawn using a circle tool, sameface
Fatoler - Promises to draw - never delivers, whines about being shit and is shit, Katellafaggot
ABT - Teethfag

>>173512179
>Let's Play streamers
>"content creators"
Top joke mate

>>173512206
ABT truly does have the patricians fetish next to kneesocks and glasses. I'd give him some gud suck.

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>>173512206
>ABT - Teethfag
There's literally nothing wrong with teeth.

>>173512171
>>173512204
She's one of those telling you to not "steal" her art, as in not reposting nor sharing. Your usual japanese pixiv behaviour.
She then started doing fanart for yaoi-tier animes. There's nothing wrong with doing other things, but she outright abandoned the Sonic fanartist community. Maybe out of shame, or because she wants to be mature. Either way it's pretty shitty.

>>173512206
>teeth
truly he is a gentleman with refined taste

>>173512206
>Korps! - Probably a cunt
I second this. He's the next MTD, just you watch!

>>173512206
What about the others?

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>>173512618
>but she outright abandoned the Sonic fanartist community
>tfw elder god tier artist moves on

>>173512618
They moved on, it's no big deal.

>>173512206
>We should have a hate week, let's take every artist here and shit on them.
Having been here since the start of the general, that seems like every week.

>>173511918
It's a mixed bag.
I mean an artist isn't obligated to listen to anyone's "criticism" of their drawing if they don't think it's
1. Good Criticism
2. An issue they're worried about
Like if you told Akira Toriyama he draws eyes too big, you wouldn't be wrong but I don't think anyone gives a shit.

Can anyone from Europe confirm that Sonic CD isn't on the PlayStation Store for PS3?

You can find it here online (https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/games/sonic-cd/cid=EP0177-NPEB00787_00-SONICCDPSNKEY000), but if you actually search it on the PS3's store nothing comes up.

>>173482283
Cute

>>173512618
>she outright abandoned
what was the last sonic thing she drew? and did she just stop or did she announce she was leaving?

>no reposting
yeah well maybe if artists would stop dropping off the face of the earth and taking their art with them maybe I'd agree with her

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>>173513360
As long as they feel like shit and ready to cry then my work is done. Don't act like a little entitled bitch like you know who and we wont have any problems.

I can't stop reating Sonic OCs. Help!

>>173512618
>She stopped drawing a thing
I stopped drawing Adventure Time and Steven Universe art. Not like I'm doing it out of shame or anything, I just don't feel inspired or want to do that (for free anyway)

>>173513553
>Don't act like a little entitled bitch like you know who
Aval0nx?

>>173501698
Coolblue or Hotred? I can't tell sometimes

>>173513685
Shroak you baka. I don't even think Aval0nx has some to this dump unless it was during my down time.

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Comfy Sonic music time?
https://youtu.be/Z8cLe9ZUh1w

Post your favorite calm Sonic tracks

>>173513757
Aku Tojyo, the source of their "style". Especially Coolblue is copying him now to 100%.

>>173512206
Yoto- Only likes to do sketches, rarely ever colors and never posts his lewds. Probably a bit TOO much into drawing Amy and his own weird little kinks. Also he's really not good at drawing sonic consistently.
At least that's my own self-criticism.

>>173513496
MTD. without a doubt

>>173513786
Always reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ty6u4RxWI

which is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVWpFXtHhPc

>>173512206
Fatoler here, that's pretty accurate. Though I do plan (there's that word) to do non Sonic stuff

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Wow.../sthg/ is now talking about Sonic hentai instead of Comics/Games/News

Never seen a deader general in my life.
Well. Except for Freedom Planet. That General been dead for....8 months.

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>>173513786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1pEzkwpRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkpErV1nGk8

>>173514118
>Comics
What comics?

>Games
What games?

>News
What news?

Call us when something new happens, we've talked about everything else.

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>>173513901
That doesn't count, Yoto. We're supposed to shit on you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3dz1vk5wA
This remains as the best fail ever

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How does /sthg/ prefer it's fan art? On model or art that takes liberty in the proportions/style?

>>173514118
>That General been dead for....8 months.
>burning out star that sold poorly and didn't have as strong of a following as Undermeme whos general is still going
Not a surprise.

>>173514281
Probably one of the best parts of Unleashed

>>173514302
all I care about is that the head looks correct. everything else is free to be changed to whatever

>>173514302
On model, style varies.

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Just finished Sonic Adventure 2.

I mean I respect people's opinions, but it puzzles me how this game seems to be continuously cited as an example of a really good Sonic game, or how all new 3D games need to follow this formula and be like Sonic Adventure 2, or even say that Adventure 2 was the only good Sonic game.

Sonic and Shadow as a whole move like molasses, and the rail grinding mechanics are very awkward. Any time you have to run on a wall while going forward in the Sonic/Shadow stages the game's physics say "fuck you" because there's apparently a certain point up the wall where you will automatically hop off of it and fall, though you won't know what exactly it is until you hit it.

The half pipe-y bits in Green Forest and Lost Jungle are hilariously clunky to run through because the whole thing counts as a floor and a bunch of weirdly placed walls, causing you to start going into falling animations and stop if you tilt your stick in any direction other than straight forward.

The new abilities like the bounce and the somersault are neat on paper, but they don't really flow with the actual gameplay, and you're never found using them naturally. In particular, Metal Harbor and Radical Highway actively go out of their way to slow you down by placing these tubes you must somersault under, or extra high platforms you need to bounce to. It's slow.

The vertical gravity tubes in Shadow's Final Chase are also a neat level design element with nasty execution, because you start picking up speed on them as you run, and sometimes you can just fall off of them for no reason, giving you a pretty cheap death.

The sudden inclusion of 'puzzle-esque' elements in Pyramid Cave after just running and jumping on people for most of the Sonic stages is kind of dissonant and feels like padding, but this is just me nitpicking.

Say what you will, but at least the Emerald and Shooting stages didn't have these weird physics problems.

I'm sorry /sthg/, I tried, but I don't see it.

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>>173514302
I like me fanart to look good, even if off-model or in a entirely different style.
Those who put Sonic heads on anime bodies can go fuck themselves.

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Does /sthg/ think they'll keep the 2D look of Runners in Runners Adventure? Or will they go 3D? What would you prefer?

>>173514302
Generally on-model, though there are some cases where more liberty is fine.

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>>173512871
>>173513126
>>173513512
>>173513574
But I myself can't move on. She was my artistfu!

>>173513901
Criticizing you is our job though Yoto

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>>173512206
>Everyone looks like they have manly shoulders
Fair enough.

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>>173514302
I will ALWAYS give fanart extra credit for being on model, but at the same time I LOVE seeing how an artist impliments their own style to pre-existing designs.

It's all up to how exaggerated it is and what elements are exaggerated.

>>173514478
It's okay, anon. I don't really get the whole SA2 hype either.

>>173514302
I'm perfectly fine with liberties being taken as long as characters don't become stupidly exaggerated or "muh style" is used to excuse being shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbEXnvD0-wM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBCmu8wAiZs

I enjoyed Eggmanland.

>>173514553
2D, similar physics, more level variety.

>>173499106
>Leitmotif
I love that shit so much. I sometimes think of the soundtracks I've liked the most (in video games in general) and it always comes down to that. I hate that games have moved away from having one.

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>>173512871
It's a real shame honestly but I guess it was bound to happen at some point. Seen her draw other Sonic stuff sometimes but it's usually either for a collab or once in 3 blue moons.

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Kemono Style for Sonic series.
I am tempted to see how this (female Jap) artist pulls it off.
It will probably look more puffy and furry then the usual. But maybe it might be nice to see?

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>>173514821
>how an artist impliments their own style to pre-existing designs.
>posts Coolblue
This made me laugh!

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>>173514302
I'm fine with either, as long as it looks good!

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>>173514671
But thou must.

>>173514952
I'm glad leitmotifs in vidya are rare as fuck now. After listening to the Twilight Princess Orchestrated album I really got sick of them.

>>173514882
I really want to eventually make a animatic with sonic racing through eggman land that's made up of all of Eggman's robots from sonic 1 up to unleashed.

>>173514882
I did too. It was the stage of Challenge that Sonic should often have.
Course alot of noobies/lamers can't seem to beat it and rage quit on it instead of learning the stage inside and out and finish the Hotdog missions like I had.
I enjoy challenges.

>>173514671
Didn't she mainly draw Maria and Shadow? does that make her a lolicon?


>>173514478
Well anon, you're goin-
>it's slow
here's your (you) for your bait

>>173507904
It's barely over normal scale, and Sonic scale is pretty hard to intuit.

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>>173514671
It's alright anon, least we'll have the memories. And only we can take that away from ourselves if we want.

>>173514768
She's got anchor arms!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emsM9Qi6fyM

>>173514983
Are you talking Nezumi? She did tons of Sonic art.
Or Sindoll? Did a few, all looked like their usual shit only with Sonic faces.

>>173514994
I posted that more of an example of how, Amy, who's made up of noodle limbs has thick thighs and child bearing hips, but I get your meaning. Cool Blue's a bit derivative, but I don't dislike that about them.

>>173515198
It wasn't bait though. Unless you're continually touching boost panels, Sonic and Shadow just don't feel like they're going very fast to me.

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>>173514882
Its Zero's theme from Adventure revamped 10x fold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOnA7a7KnWU

>>173512206
>tfw Not relevant enough to get hate

Not sure how to feel

>>173515295
Yeah, it's almost like they were supposed to be platformers and not "hold X to go fast" casual shit.

>>173499106
>>173514952
>>173515159
Leitmotifs work best if each motif represents something rather than (Here's the theme of the game again.)

I know it's kind of taboo but Undertale did it really well. Each character and environment has a "motif" During certain tracks/boss fights a leitmotif will be used to associate them with something else.

>Asgore's theme is a combination of his motif, Toriel's bossfight theme and the game over music because he has links to all 3 of those things.

>>173514478
>move like molasses
That's the point Ill focus on here and why I would like some SA2 influence. Sonic and Shadow have weight and they have momentum. It's also just better to steer and run with them in general.

compared with later games they never seem to get that right, Heroes was slippery, 06 was twitchy and the boost games are stiff.

The rest of the stuff is legitimate. especially when they map multiple moves to the same button.

>>173515159
Maybe you should play better vidya.

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>>173515198
She did quite as much of the others too. Her Rouge was sexy and smooth.

>>173515273
No, I understand you, Anon. It's just that >>173513878

>>173515493
It should be known that it wasn't fully TobyFox's composition but also FlashyGoodness from Tower of Heaven/Rivals of Aether fame.
https://www.flashygoodness.com/

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>>173490790
Man must've come during the 25th anniversary threads

>>173515570
Mhm, That's what I meant by "derivative". But it's still a pretty pleasant style.

>>173515270
No someone by the name Fujikotowi.
She isn't known on the net but I am a close friend of hers and fellow Sonic nut. We both enjoy the Sonic series and she likes doing Kemono art.

>>173515295
>it wasn't bait
oh yes it is. Either that or you never played any sonic games besides the boost games. I'm not talking about them feeling slow is the bait. it's this part:

>The new abilities like the bounce and the somersault are neat on paper, but they don't really flow with the actual gameplay, and you're never found using them naturally. In particular, Metal Harbor and Radical Highway actively go out of their way to slow you down by placing these tubes you must somersault under, or extra high platforms you need to bounce to. It's slow.

If you're complaining about having to stop and do something then you'd probably throw a fit in Sandopolis or Marble Zone (Sonic 1)

>>173515639
Tower of Heaven's soundtrack is Fucking great. (I haven't played the other one)

>>173515540
TP orchestrated was a fanmade album. The game itself did have leitmotifs, but they were paced very well. Still, the album ruined the entire concept for me related to vidya because those chucklefucks had to shove in the same goddamn Twilight Princess leitmotif in almost every song that didn't have it.

>>173515774
>Fujikotowi
Been a while since I looked something up on Google to get no results

>>173515675
>>173499240
Right before the party. After the party is when this place fell hard.

>>173515902
did you try it in japanese?

>>173515774
How the fuck do you know so many Sonic fans in real life? It's hard enough to find 1, least where I am.

Literally the best track from Shadow the Hedgehog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlr7uN0lBVM

>>173515570
Always liked how Aoki gave the male hogs detailed ribs and abdomens

>>173516025
Can't convert to moon unfortunately, used Google Translate and still got 0 results. Then again, that was Google translate.

>>173515440
Are you Saltcore, Sonicdash, Aval0nX, Epictones, or Toby?

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>>173512206

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>>173516074
Go to conventions. Make friends. Be lucky enough to have a Jap/American half girl in your school to be a childhood friend that enjoys playing Sonic with you.
I can't find the courage to ask her out to break our friendship and go for cuddles but I like to see her smile when we are playing Sonic together.

>>173516397
Epictones only posts here on a blue moon, he's generally just reposted by others.

>>173499106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gytj4ua0tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6WjFf0D6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djhywlIDzIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NNMzZ3y-g

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>>173514478
>>173515295
When you give a boost fan a different playstyle ladies and gentleman.