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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

Black Boxes edition

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

>[NieR: Automata Mining and Moddin Steam Group]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM

>[Nier Automata Lossless OST + Bonus HACKING TRACKS Disc]
https://mega.nz/#F!xpND2ZQI!SGnaDUc7MW5VDCJ4B9q4xA
https://mega.nz/#F!ppsjEICJ!SH2WwEAxnsQd99rZfN6u8Q
PASSWORD=hikaru

English track list
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091

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>>173471729
2B9S Best couple.
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seems like we get another chance
hopefully this will lead to a different conclusion
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>>173471832
Indeed.
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Looks like Rekka will never finished translating The Memory Cage.
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Reposting from last thread

Has anyone found a way to get Emil to move if he's REALLY fucking stuck? I've played this game for about 30 hours and he's NEVER moved. I've googled it and tried every solution I've seen and nothing has worked. He really loves that desert area.

>>173470769
I've tried this. I've reloaded a million times. I've done the run between area trick a million times. I've exhausted all his dialogue. I've done his quests. In dozens of hours, he's literally never moved once.
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>suddenly start getting white screen crashes after 40ish hours of gameplay
>can't tell if it's the new nvidia driver update or the FAR update
Anyone in a similar situation? It's happening very rarely when loading a new area, or when a bunch of effects are active.

I'm on a 970
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>>173472141
>Has anyone found a way to get Emil to move if he's REALLY fucking stuck?
Not that I know of. He started moving for me after A2 kills the king.
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>>173472141
do you have chapter select yet or not? I did have a problem in route B where Emil would spawn only in the desert, but that was after I stole his mask from his house
normally you can get him to spawn by moving between city ruins and desert and watching the map to see when he despawns
so if you can't do anything and still are on route B, finish it and he should be automatically fixed in C
also make sure you talk to him for the first time when he spawns in the desert, otherwise he'll keep spawning there
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>>173472141
I had this problem until one time in the middle of route C I went into offline mode to hide from my nagging friends. I have no idea why that was the push that finally convinced him to start advertising his wares in more places but it's worth a try.
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White is beautiful.
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>tfw my computer finally arrived
>I will finally be able to get 100% on the computer

Maybe once I get 100% again some magic will happen and they will patch the game.
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>>173473621
THICK
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>see voice actor credits for the dub
>Kira Buckland sounds familiar, not sure from where
>finally remember she did the voice of the black girl in Huniepop and has her own ED article
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who /leavepascal/ here
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>>173474518
You may also remember her as Rina Chan back on Newgrounds. Aka the voice of every single female character in the shitty flash cartoons you watched when you were 13.

Gotta admit. I was pretty fucking stunned when I found that out. Probably would never have realized it was her if not for the credits too so I guess good on her for growing out of the shrill annoying animu voice.
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>>173473621
>White is beautiful.
So the Japs say.
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Do the common resistance members fight with cool melee weapons like the Yorha androids or do they use boring guns?
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>>173472138
What's been translated so far rattled me pretty bad, so much that I'm almost grateful that the rest of the novella is still inaccessible to me.

>2B was created to be the perfect counter to 9S
>Even her mind has been weaponized with the means to subdue him should he get rowdy
Thank you Taro for my depression
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>>173471832
Agreed

>>173471315
Careful! People like two hate me posting it.

But I always oblige those who ask. http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23141313

Just broke 10000 words.
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>>173476218
You don't ever really see them fighting, but you do see corpses of those who fought and they have a mix of lame melee weapons and regular guns, rocket launchers and such humans would use. In fact, one of the gun you see them use is clearly an StG 44 because this game loves the nazis, pic related.
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>>173474043
Extra Thick
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>>173476218
Well they do use melee weapons.
Cool? Well who knows.
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>>173476218
Can also fish a rocket launcher from the resistance out of the water.
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>>173476551
We know there's this guy in the Gathering Keepsakes subquest and he seems to have just used a lame-ass rusted cleaver.

Probably why he died.
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I just lost about 2 hours of save data because Taro decided not to put save points in the tower. I hit a power surge.

If there are save points I was too retarded to notice them anyway.
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>>173476949
What were you even doing for 2 hours there? Lost progress sucks nonetheless, but that's a pretty long time to hang around there.
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Any chance the game is going to go on sale any time soon on Steam? I don't remember if it went on sale when it came out.
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>>173477239
It did not go on sale when it came out and your next best bet would be the Summer Sale, which won't be for a few months.
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>>173476949
Bop that skip button, cutscenes make up most of the meat of the tower so it will be a fast trek back to the top
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>tfw you will never have her take command of your thick cock and push her hips into yours as you flood her robo-womb with your baby batter and make her bear your android children
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>>173477142
>What were you even doing for 2 hours there?

Sucking at the game mainly.
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>>173477239
It had the usual preorder discount on GMG
18% I believe.
Amazon is selling it $10 off for PS4 this weekend.
But other than that don't expect sales for this game any time soon.
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>>173476949

You don't need to be AT a save station to save dude

Theres an icon in the top right of the screen that will say if saving is possible. I know for a fact there are some areas that let you save in the Tower.
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>>173477371
You should have stopped sucking by the time you reach the tower.

There are save points by the way.
One at the entrance and one at the library.
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>>173477329
Damn, that sucks. I've heard it's a really good game, but is it $60+ good? If it is I'll pick it up when my next paycheck comes in.
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>>173478603
I easily got around 70h out of the game and thought it was amazing. But asking this kind of question in a general meant for the kind of nerds like me who'd hang around this long to discuss the game will probably get you biased answers.

But the fact remains is that the game is both reviewing and selling way better than expectations and they still (apparently) have DLC scheduled to release, so as long as they can milk its success, I don't see them discounting the game.
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>>173477368
Why you desire the touch of something that don't exist?
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>>173476325
Don't listen to those two anons. Continue writing, write-anon. There needs to be lewd hand holding in your fic.
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>>173472138
she never finished a translation ever, except the extremely half assed manga ones (and even then someone else already translated 1/3 of it)
I don't get why other people don't step up to do proper translations in her place, I can't believe there's no interest in it since almost everything from nier and dod3 was translated and those two games were a lot more niche than automata
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Are there any weapons/pod programs in the soul box other than faith?
I missed a bunch of rewards.
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>>173472138
Rekka Alexiel?
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>>173480756
Pod programs/weapons aren't rewards the soul box gives you, Faith is always there.
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So I killed the machines but no ending.
What do?
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>>173480996
That's strange. It was in the room with all the rewards and when I opened it, I was told it was for killing lots of machines.
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>>173481092
There are other rewards for doing other things but they're just high level chips
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>>173481092
I think the reward it gave you was another chest
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>>173481015
You didn't kill them all.
Check the lower levels.
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I might be a mechanical lifeform because it's like I was programmed to experience powerful protective feelings every time I see this kinda racist yet kindhearted boy
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2B is 4Bullying
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>>173481092
There are no other weapons there, and the rest are pretty much just chips. But here's a dump of the dialogue for each chest hinting at what you need to do:

>Heavens, you've used a veritable mountain of items, haven't you? Please have this special present as a reward!
>Goodness! You've died an astonishing number of times. You deserve a special present!
>As a reward for trying to understand machine lifeforms via frequent hacking sessions, we have a special present for you!
>You've recovered an army's worth of corpses! We have just the thing for someone like you!
>Oh my! Look at all the machine lifeforms you've murdered! Such dogged persistence is worthy of a special present!
>We have a special present for you—a token of appreciation for all the machine lifeform requests you completed!
>It's wonderful to see your interest in the things of this world. The collection you've amassed has earned you a special present!
>Congratulations! As thanks for all the android requests you completed, we have a special present for you!
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>>173476325
This is your daily reminder that you are cancer
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>>173481421
Was that whole area just Taro making fun of completionists again?
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>>173479092
A man can long after the ideal.
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>die in 9S' memories
>game over

What the fuck? I was hacking.
Now I have to do the soul box again.
At least they fixed the black box archive. Too bad it spoiled me the first time.
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>>173476325
Anon, it was a good read, keep writing and don't feel discouraged.

>>173481015
If you chapter selected to the moment where they're waving white flags you have to leave and re-enter so that they're not waving the flags anymore. I ran into something similar and that fixed it for me.
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>>173482367
That collar makes me have sex choking fantasies. Did they do this on purpose or is it just me?
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>if you aren't connected to the network for the E ending you don't get help and can't beat the game
>they actually connected shit properly instead of just giving the illusion of being helped

neat
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9S is for...?
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>>173484301
Crossing swords.
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>>173484301
lewd
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>>173484451
Source?
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>>173476218
Anemone has a rifle in her official art, so boring guns.
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>Endings tied to weapon upgrades always have more negative outcomes than the ones you get just for playing the game normally
>Your cool prize in Automata for maxing out all weapons is the Original Emil fucking dies
Just this once could you be nice to completionists Taro my dude
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What's the fastest way to farm money with chapter select? I want to finish maxing out my weapons, fight Emil and delete my save because I felt bad saying no and wanting to 100%.
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anyone got that picture of 9S putting the stick in his bicycle wheels and screaming A2?
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>>173485227
You can buy Thicc dictionaries from the clown merchant in the Amusement Park on Routes A/B and sell it back to him for profit on Route C. A stack sells for like 1 Million, so just chapter selecting between A/B and C and buying/selling them is relatively fast.

There may be faster ways, but that's how I did it.
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>>173485396
Gonna try this, thanks!
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I like Automata's setting more than NieR or Drakenguard.
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>>173485251
I'm going to sleep and browsing on my phone. I'll post it tomorrow
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>>173485251
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>>173485227
Usually the issue is less the money and more the general rarity and specificity of the materials. If you've held onto your Machine Cores, sell them in route C since they go for more and you should have more than enough money to cover the costs.

Or if you want to do something truly depraved, you can buy the Children's Cores from memory-wiped Pascal in route C, and resell it for profit.
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>>173485993
Same, I find Nier's great, but Automata just does something more.

Also, Looking for the 9S Hackerman wallpaper/reaction.
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"I'm not quite sure what it means to mourn, or even if we have souls to concern ourselves with.
But I hope you're at rest 2B, sweet dreams

I can't contain all this sadness.
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>ladder is up even though B route reveals that 9S already kicked it down

wow yoko taro such poor continuity, did you think I wouldn't notice?

gg shit game
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>>173487031
I found the prelude to that to be fairly sad too. Not in the sense that there's any reason to care about those particular resistance members dying, but the questgiver having this sort of undirected grief he doesn't know what to do with and reaching to human customs to at least do something for his passed friends made me feel really bad for him.

I'm not saying it's as much of a tearjerker as 9S putting up a gravestone for 2B, but that resistance member not knowing how to cope was a bummer too.
>>173487478
>Route A it's 2B fighting Eve at the outer edge of that alien cave
>Route B it's 9S fighting Eve at the outer edge of that alien cave
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>>173486194
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>>173487031
I'll be joining you soon enough
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>>173487478
I went back in route C and all the shortcuts and boxes were closed.
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What are you hoping is behind the DLC doors?
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I couldn't enjoy most of original Nier because I already knew most of the things that were going to happen and I basically had all the quests out of the way by the time I got the first ending phoenix spear charge breaks the game. And a number of things about the story don't make no sense. Automata at least is generally coherent even where it's simplistic, in such a way that it makes sense both before and after you give it more thought. I didn't care for the graphics, and the music while good on its own was choppily integrated compared to Automata.

But ending D was really good.

I didn't even care too much for Kaine, but those last few minutes demonstrate that the power of good writing in spite of short length, good animations in spite of mediocre models, good lighting/composition using the simple tech that was available to them, all emphasizing only what's most important, conveys the intended goal of delivering an emotional impact in the end.

I can definitely see why it got a cult following.

I'm glad Taro got his big break with Automata.
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>>173487478
>>173488482
Machines take offense when Androids use shortcuts like they own the place.
They reset them when you weren't looking.
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>>173488489
A thank you letter from Taro and a code to RSVP at his new restaurant.
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>>173488489
Not a clue, but If they pull a World of Recycled Vessel and make those elevators take us to boring corridors filled with enemies I'm mailing Taro a box of ants
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Stole an idea for a guy's android theme from reddit and changed it to my liking.
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>>173488489

The path to ending Ä
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Finally.

Fuck fishing and fuck rare spawns.
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>>173488992
>Play as final form Beepy, about to burst to the surface
>Still in corridors
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>>173488992
Just use this
https://shipyourenemiesglitter.com
Less illegal and its cheaper so you can buy a few preplanned ones.
My only worry is his Emil head will spare him the initial blast.
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>>173489326
>He posts a video thanking fans for the glitter while coated from head to toe in glitter.
I can see it now.
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>>173486194
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>>173489058
Pretty cool
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>>173488842
Yoko Taro already left a thank you letter on twitter.
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>>173489161
Fucking Swordfish Machine assholes, I swear.
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>>173489161
Congrats!
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What if they're killing you when you use the Transport system
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>>173486194
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>>173492645
I remember reading an article several years ago about teleportation research. Scientists were trying to instantaneously teleport an electron from one place to another. And I remember them saying that to do that, it would require that the original electron be obliterated and instantly reformed at a different location. I'm not exactly sure but iirc they did have moderate success with that electron.
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does matter which one I pick?
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>>173472138
Does anybody have a link to the original?
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>>173494304
No.
One doesn't effect the other and when one has done all they can do you are forced to use the other.
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Are there any good LPs or streams of Automata where the streamer pays attention to cutscenes, gets attached to the characters or even gets emotional?
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>>173489058
Can you post where you found this? I'd really like to do this to my phone and your modifications if you have the time/want to share it.
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>>173496495

That 12 year old from super best friends cried on stream during ending E if that counts.
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>>173496582
scratch that I found it.

here's the link for anyone interested

https://imgur.com/a/8xApj#3yyphdQ
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>>173473621
White is right!
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Is there a Nier edit of this?
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>>173473621

>tfw You'll never rub the Commander's thighs
>tfw You'll never see the Commander again

Why live?
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>>173475380
I don't know who made this but I think is not really good.
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>tfw i now expect Memories of Dust to play on every desert level of every game
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What did that recent update (1.04) do?
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>>173497501

>tfw the commander will never sentence you to disciplinary action
>tfw she will never dispense it personally by crushing your head between her thighs in the middle of the command room, every day until you've learned your lesson.
>tfw she will never sentence you to further discipline because of all the android bodies you wasted by getting your head crushed so many times.
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>tfw to smart too like 2B
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Are there any quests which require any fishes, or can they all safely be sold immediately?
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>>173497834
What's 21O?
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>>173497838
Sell them all aside from the mackeral Jackass will give you at some point. I think that every item with the description of can be exchanged for money can be sold on the spot with no repercussions.
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>>173497951
Alright, thanks Anon. Time to eject from the thread since I'm still pretty early in the game. Appreciate the response.
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>>173497946
Same as 9s
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>>173498015
and 6O
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>>173497951
I think you can eat any mackerel for the ending.
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>>173497834
What's so great about A2?
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>>173498819
She's like 2B, but cuter.
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>>173497834
A2 bois~~~.

Commander?
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>>173498858
She's identical.
2B has better fashion sense.
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I just got Ending E.

Does anyone have that pic of the stick figure who fell out of his computer chair with tears in his eyes? Because that's pretty much where that took me just now.
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>>173498865
Commander is off the scale.
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3 weeks or so now

bought persona 5 to fill the void


didn't work


send help
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>>173497834
>n2
>transcending brain.jpg
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>>173498819
I'm not sure, I guess I like how brash she is, where 2B is mostly aloof and warms up in intense situations, A2 is lively and heated but cools down in stressful situations. She has control over herself but doesn't exercise it unless she needs, I found her to be very charismatic and likable because of this.

Thinking about it, 2B and A2 are strangely similar, they both feel like they could be each other's sisters, it's hard to say which one would be the older one.

Also, A2 is by far the most fun hero to play, fully upgraded demonfang combat bracers on A2 feels like Street Fighter
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>>173500190
All this time and I still don't know what aloof means.
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>>173500925
All this time you were never curious enough to look it up?
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>>173492645
>>173493048
>3 hours later
Its not teleportation.
Your frame goes into the machine, the target destination machine preps a new frame, your programming gets transferred to the target destinations frame, your new frame pops out of the transponder.
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Does anybody have links to the ".pkg" files for the NieR DLC on Ps3?
Sicne cavia shut down they removed it from the playstore and xbox live.

I don't care if the region is NTSC-U or PAL.
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I wonder what the resistance androids think of A2 running around naked.
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>>173500925
It can be confused with an edgy behaviour but what happens is that when you seem distracted and thinking about something else or more likely that your mind is somewhere else.

>>173501316
They feel nothing. Android attraction isn't that much of a visual level.
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>>173501465
I didn't mean anything sexual.
They all wear clothes and I wonder if they care about her lack of... shame I guess is the right word.
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>>173501604
Exposing one's genitals is problematic.
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>>173501604
Yea I think they don't because of the same sexual reasons. That is pretty much the reason there would be shame on being naked.

I'm still on the 2B chapters but I've met A2 already and I don't know much about her. But I saw her design and got me very curious about her but I don't want to rush the game.

She looks wasted and used exposing her machine nature visually which makes me feel that she can give a better perspective and the point of view of a machine rather then a human copy android.
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>download flac ost from nyaa
>everything is in moonrunes
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>>173501875
I didn't know you need to know moonrunes to be able to enjoy music made in Japan.
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>>173502015
>have to open every file to find the one I want to listen to
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>>173414121
>>173426727
continuation of S-models TV special
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>>173501851
What are you doing here?
No one is even using spoiler tags anymore.
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>>173474518
>Aoi Yuki voices Pascal
>robot with almost no emotional scenes gets voiced by a AAA seiyu who excels in showing emotions
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>>173502393
If anything this made me realize that Aoi's voice can make me hard no matter what
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I love that this game has so many extras that most players would miss. You wouldn't need to play nier to enjoy automata and still be able to respect all the lore. The OST resonates in my ears far into the day and helps me sleep at night.

2B, you can kill me anytime .
9S, stay woke senpai.
A2, I'd bathe and wife thee in the forest waterfalls.

This game made me realize that I am the REAL enemy .

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>173502709
>Forgetting the real hero
>And a real human bean
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>>173502213
Time is an illusion.

Avoiding spoilers is just intellectual masturbation.
>>
Now that I'm reaching the end of my second play through, I can say that any emotional impact the game had on me is gone. I felt nothing when I finished the keepsakes side quest again.

I never read the weapon stories and I was going to when I finished them but I want them to have impact.

Maybe I should take a break from this game for a while.
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>>173502793
But masturbation feels good.
Don't you want to feel good?
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>>173502393
Fuck I just noticed that the flowers that Popola and Devola are wearing is a Lunar Tear on top of the dark flower
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>>173502776
Explain
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>>173502991
Don't you remember Ending E?
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>>173472383
A-anyone?
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>>173472383
>>173503153
Sorry, hasn't happened to me. I'm on a 1080 though
Are you in fullscreen or windowed?
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Eve man...

he just wanted to hang with his best bro
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>>173503314
Who just wanted to kill people
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>>173503293
In fullscreen. Currently testing with the steam overlay off & changing some settings, but getting it to crash again can take hours so it's hard to tell when it's fixed.
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>>173502896
Feels bad when you love someone.
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Who is that nigga?
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I came here to ask one question.

How do I pet my pod?
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>>173503938
That lazy crate-push nigga
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>>173503414
His intentions were to examine people, not kill. Who cares that his plan included occasional death or two.
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>>173504000
Pet your PS4 controller.

Hurr durr
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>>173504000
Also checked
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What's everyone's chip set ups?

+100% damage
+100% damage leach
+20% evade range
+combos continue after dash (not sure if this is good)

Normal mode is extremely easy, I basically killed the last boss in two combos, If I try hard mode I'll keep the damage but replace the leach with damage down and rely on health packs for healing instead
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Anyone have sauce on that pic of 2B spread eagle on her back that is shaded in black and white?
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>>173472141
You need to exhaust conversations with him each visit in the new area. Also level seems to effect things at level 60+ he was moving around everywhere in my game
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>>173503414
Death is just a side effect of his knowledge gathering.
How many people die on the table to make a great surgeon?
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>>173504000
on pc move the mouse in circles.
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>>173503938
That's Kaine's grandmother.
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>>173504509
2B: general purpose +damage +evade chips
9S: crit setup with continuous combos and taunt if i feel like to see 30k+ crits
A2: leech + auto-item usage for b-mode
but honestly the game is so fucking easy i've just started gimping myself at some point
if i will do a new playthrough, i will actively use CE to lower my level
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>>173504509
Everything in health recovery related chips I am immortal
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What is happening here?
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>>173496698
Well I did too so that's great.
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>Emil's Lunar Tear Quest
>Kainé's Home
>Desert Flower quest for 6O
>6O's message in the during the destruction of the Bunker
>2B Death
>2B's Final Message in Flight Message
>Gathering Keepsakes quest

The Feels bois
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>>173507258
And ending Y also
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>94% units data
Feels bad
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>>173507610
did you fight all the gold machines?
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>>173507610
Keep looking for them.
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>>173496495
Kyle McCarley. He is English voice actor of 9S and he did a playthrough of the game on his twitch channel. It should be obvious why he is better than any youtube memelord who tries to earn money playing this game.
The downside is obviously that he is aware of his character's story. But since he voiced his role before the game was ready there were still certain scenes and plot twists which greatly surprised him.
Besides you can learn more about localization process, about feelings he had when voicing certain scene, etc.

Note: at certain point 2B's VA joins him too. She's terrible at games and acts like a normal western woman. While I enjoyed her presence and commentary I imagine some people may dislike her non-anime behaviour and shitty gaming skills.
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>>173507681
Yes. The only one I didn't do is the Emil boss from Y end
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Commander, I...
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>>173503478
I play in windowed mode with the borderless gaming app, see if that works.
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>>173507931
you should most likely jump to 95 after that
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Any good Drakengard 3 playthroughs? Only video-based pls
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>>173508538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ffr6s1j_yA
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>>173507610
Sometimes it won't budge till you get both endings c and d. I was stuck at 94 but after clearing both it sky rocketed to 99% somthing about getting A2 and 9S in your enemy data must allow things to count.
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did anyone finish the game before doing the sidequests relating to E model androids? did the reveal of 2B being 2E feel like an asspull to you?
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>>173509817
it was more like a "oh, this explains some stuff but changes nothing" moment
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>>173502393
Have we played the same game?
Pascal was a very emotional character, and she absolutely nailed it pretty much every conversation, and even moreso in the grand finale.
That voice made my chest hurt.
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>>173504509
I mean, if you feel like farming +8s, I guess. But honestly you can faceroll all content with a even a modest set of +6s.

Chips I generally used:
+6 HP Up (+50%)
+6 Shockwave
+6 Weapon Atk Up (+50%)
+6 Offensive Heal (50%) and/or +5 Deadly Heal (50%)
+3 Overclock (2.5 seconds)
+4 Anti Chain Damage (2.5 seconds)
+5 Evade Range (+100%)
+3 Movement Speed (+10%)
Auto Use Item
Auto Heal
Counter
Evasive System

Farming/Exploring/Non-essential: Auto Loot, Item Scan, and Drop Rate Up (+3 & +4 for 90%)

>>173509817
But it wasn't an asspull, anon. Go back and look at everything 2B hints at for the entire A route.
- "Emotions are prohibited" then later freaks out about 9S getting hurt.
- Her harsh reaction to learning that he lost his memories.
- Her reluctance to calling him Nines.
- Her reaction to the side quest, 'Amnesia'.
- "It always... ends like this" at the end of A/B

Were you fucking asleep anon? The 2E reveal was the coolest fucking plot twist in the entire game.
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Did anyone try to play through the Automata without using chips?
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>>173510631
>Were you fucking asleep anon? The 2E reveal was the coolest fucking plot twist in the entire game.

This, and the fact that A2 reveals it.

Fuck, I sat at the decision between the final fight for about 5 minutes with my head in my hands realising that I believed that 2B was just experiencing some extremely bad luck.

Great twist which changes the entire view of the first half of the game.
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>>173507384
emil blowing up earth isn't really feels though. his final questline and letterless ending, sure. but ending y is shit.
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>>173510631
I know it's not an asspull, I'm just wondering if people that experienced the game differently from me interpreted it as such
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I wish A Beautiful Song had Simone's screaming, it added much more impact
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The park machines have opened a food joint
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>>173510501
The only part where Pascal showed showed so much emotions where Aoi Yuki was required was the outbreak in C, every other part could have been handled by a noname.

It's like a guy building a rig with two GTX 1080ti but only playing League of Legends.
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I'm missing 3 quests
I know Pascal's old world info and 4S's enemy info, but I can't find the last one
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>>173511957
It's either on the bunker, a quest that is given to you automatically during the story, or Emil's quest.
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Hello everyone it's the writefag again.

I haven't updated anything but I got some feedback that the latest chapter was too fast http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23333226.

You guys have given me hella support but I was wondering if you all felt the same.
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>>173471729
Bi-weekly check in, game cracked yet?
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>>173512087
they're not planning to crack it anytime soon. but they cracked andromeda just for impatient people like you!
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>>173512370
Is andromeme even worth playing for free?
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>>173512087
Give the devs your money, they deserve it.
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>>173512427
They patched out most of the memes, so now it's just bad.
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>>173510876
Here, i didn't care about them before my second play
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>>173512427
gameplay looks fine. only problem was the animation, right?
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>>173512087
Happy day, let me just cancel my day plans.
>>173512436
No one is going to believe this, but if I like a game I pirate, I buy it. I'll do the same for this game when the time comes if so.
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>>173512548
was it fun?
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>>173511845
>sandwiches not falling apart
ruined
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>>173512645
The only thing right is the gameplay.
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>>173512079
It's okay. It would've dragged on if you didn't resolve it early on. Now you can focus on the cute things.
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>beat Nier
>got ending E
>didn't feel a thing

What gives?
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>>173510961
I should've said the emil fight, as ending Y is just a joke ending
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>>173512087
>>173512665
Buy this game, do not pirate. Yoko Taro needs your money so he can actually make more games.
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I found a glitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD--wlpgU-M
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>>173513637
Then buy it for me, love. But in the event should that not happen, I'll buy it if I like it after pirating it. Seems fair.
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>>173512689
Yes
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>>173513667
That's just 9S autism
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>>173513667
Ah yes, the Sonic glitch. I've been there before.
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>>173513448

You'll feel it in a bit anon, you don't realise how heavy the weight is until it truly hits you.
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>>173513738
One of the best parts requires you to be online.
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>>173513738
>>173512665
>>173512087

Stay poor. Shit attitude to have kiddo.
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>>173513738
Both your attitude and purse is lacking something.
How bout you sit like a good dog and wait for the crack?
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>>173514038
I hope I do, it's been 7 hours now.
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>>173513959
High above the street
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>>173514038
I don't know, for me it was instant
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>>173514779
Did you not get invested in the characters anon?
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It's been three weeks and I can't get over this game. I need my own A2 in real life. I need my own Commander in real life. I need my own 6O in real life. I need. 21O, 2B, 9S, anyone. ANYONE. ANYYONE in real life. Please help.

I wish Yoko Taro was god so I could have been born in the Automata world instead of this meme existence with no cute androids.
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>>173513448
im sorry
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>>173514325
kek, keep shelling your 60 bucks to anyone and everyone regardless of quality, bud.
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>>173515040
you'd probably die in some cutscene or sidequest as an unnamed character
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>>173515040
Me too.
Also add Dev&Pop + N2 to that list of androids to buy in 2060.
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>>173515316
Noses are too thin.
Here, I've said that
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>>173515316
>N2 to that list of androids to buy in 2060
You can get real little Japanese girls to bully you.
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>>173515495
where do you live?
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>>173515296
It would be worth it just to feel A2's hair, just once

>>173515316
The promise of cute AIs and androids are the only reason I haven't given up, anon.

I'm fighting for them. Every single day, until I can feel their (metaphorical?) warmth.
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>>173515495
Yeah, I agree that all the android noses are super thin and not realistic at all. You wouldn't be able to breath if you had a nose that thin.
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>>173515040

why would you like to life in such a depressing world?
humans extinct, aimless and endless battle between machines and androids.
no peace in sight.
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>>173514996
No not really, I liked the cast, Pascal, 9C and A2 especially, but I didn't feel that bad at all when each of them met their fates. I appreciated them but I didn't bond to them.

I don't know why I made this post. I can never get emotionally invested in these sort of things. I guess I hoping that would change with this game.
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>>173515551
Centra/Eastern Europe, 99% white, some of my friends (slom, good looking girls) also have thin noses but with DePo it's just too much
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>>173515819
Do androids breath?
If not I can accept the fact of giving them little cute noses
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Can I miss sidequests with 2B right? Because I ignored "protect the parade" and now the clown is missing.
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>>173516137
yes, but he should be back in route B
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>>173516021
At the very least it seems like they can survive in vacuum for some period of time.
>>
I was pressing ctrl+shift+ random keys to try to get the FAR menu open, suddenly get an achievement for riding an X amount of distance on animals. I was in the main menu, what the fuck?
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>>173516021
Well they smell stuff.
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>>173516193
>somewhere in another timeline Commander is still mad
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>>173515819
What is this picture trying to convey?
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>>173516393
She may actually have survived C intro in the same manner
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>>173516431
This.
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>>173516431
the feeling of being cummed inside.
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>>173515826
I want to be an android girl anon. It's a beautiful world, anyways. A2 says so.
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>>173516524
>implying commander didn't lie down by 6O's dead body, crying and hugging her as she self-terminated.
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>>173516789
You wouldn't want to be a S-model?

>>173516930
White is for Jackass, anon.
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>>173516576
good one
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>>173514828
Deja vu
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>>173514828
>>173517202
>>
>Commander is messy and doesn't do maintenance when she should
>6O somehow knows this
wew lawd, now I see why some people draw them together.

>>173488814
I like this idea/possibility a lot.

>>173500190
>Thinking about it, 2B and A2 are strangely similar, they both feel like they could be each other's sisters, it's hard to say which one would be the older one.
Not strange imo. 2B is basically A2 2.0. That might make A2 her mother, but I totally view them as sisters. Also A2's got that rowdy nee-san attitude going on, so she's totally the elder.
Isn't she also a tad taller than 2B?

>>173516021
Surely they do since they speak and 2B is seen heaving during battle cutscenes.
I thought it was bullshit and made the androids seem too human but then I realized breathing could purely be a cooling function for androids.

>>173516223
Sounds like you triggered the achievement-display test function.
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>>173517257
>breathing could purely be a cooling function for androids
>there is the possibility that in the far future the most advanced synthetic lifeforms will look similar to human beings because ambidextrous bipeds are the most efficient and adaptive design possible in reality

Nature is fucking scary, man,
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>lurking in taros twitter
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Sending 9S to school to learn how to not be so emotionally dependant on 2B
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>>173512665
>but if I like a game I pirate, I buy it. I'll do the same for this game when the time comes if so.
same here.
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>>173517126
>You wouldn't want to be a S-model?
why would you be a boy if you could be a girl? that's just retarded, try thinking before you speak next time.
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>>173518085
Guise, what happens when Taro was actually being serious about his threats to Atlus and Persona 5?
https://youtu.be/XhWGuV6mcE4
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>>173518085
Both are emotionally dependent on each other. If 9S really died, 2B would kill herself. I really want a Persona Automata school game.
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>>173518992
he was just buddying up to atlus because he'll go to them if square doesn't give him work and booze.
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>>173513738
To complete one of 5 true endings, you have to be online inside of the game network, which needs a digital/physical copy, not a pirated game.
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>>173519228
No, I meant what if Yoko Taro actually turned Drakengard/Nier into a high school fantasy RPG for the next game?
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>>173519398
Maybe, if it was a high school in the tokyo quarantine, I'd be into it.
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>>173518085
6O here! Sorry Commander, but looks like 9S and 2B really need each other more than anything, neither would survive without each other, I've observed 2B getting extremely stressed almost to the breaking point multiple times when she loses 9S. We already have the information Pod 153 sent to us on how 9S gets when he loses 2B.
>>
I just finished the game, and I have to say I got very little satisfaction from the endings. They left me feeling kind of empty, as if I wasn't really watching any kind of conclusion. It all felt like I was witnessing what was effectively just another event in a long sequence of events.

On reflection, I kind of really like that.
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>>173519850
Well, what I got during the game is endless feels during the CDE routes and the numerous side quests helping the characters along and introducing others. AB side quests build everything up and CDE just knock it all down with a mass of feels. I have a nice huge dose of post-Automata depression.
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>>173515040
I'd want to be a B model myself. So I can enjoy life without this present meme world. Living in 11945 being a YoRHa unit, that's the life, I just don't want to be on the bunker when that shit goes down, or would I.
>>
>"The Wandering Couple" quest
damn
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>>173519726
You're so observant 6O. ;_;
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>>173521845
how many times have you done that to your waifu?

be honest.
>>
Can you do ending e offline? the names turned invincible after a while
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>>173522294
theres a few youtube videos of that

as far as i know it should be possible but you will get default names. someone had to do it when the game was launched right? theres no way that a single play sacrificing 3~8 players would keep it working
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>>173520987
Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. You go through all these events, building everything up and putting all these pieces together, but the closure seemed to be for the machine beings, not any of the characters you play as. It all just... Happened. There was no payoff, you were just there to experience it all. That's all it was building up to.
>>
>>173481015
You get the inventor outside the city too?
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>>173515296
>implying the same thing can't happen here.
taro's worlds aren't that much more full of suffering than ours. except his has magic and android/machine waifus. ours has politics and landwhales.
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What does the machine headed woman at the resistance camp actually do if you buy one of the achievement things from her? Just offer you hints on how to unlock them?
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>decide to do all quests in nier
>the 10 pink flower seeds one shows up

not anymore
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>>173523646
I tried before, it gives the archievement for good
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>>173523646
>>173524024
I actually bust out laughing when I realized you can just buy a shitton of achievos because fuck it.
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>>173522440
he would be still connected to the network though.

the first players didn't do it offline, the database was just empty except the defaults. but if you're offline, you can't connect to the database at all, so it's likely you don't even get the default characters to help you.
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>>173524024
Oh. Fuck that.
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>spend all my money fusing chips
>try the "turf war quest"
>get 1 shot
>go back having only defense/HP chips equipped
>1 shot again
I'm done for today. Animals are bullshit
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>>173522580
It's something I really like and can seem to only find in Japanese stories. Another version involves the final scene being basically identical to the opening scene with a few characters changed, or actually exactly the same final scene as the opening scene, with the main character having deeply different thoughts about something they were doing before - and then doing it anyways.
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>>173519726
6O, how awkward are conversations between you and 21O given that your client keeps killing hers?

how do you live with the guilt?
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>>173525421
Just spam dodge and focus on the machine, after it dies the animals go way.
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>>173525908
I was too low level for it anyway. No way I'm pulling that off without any chips.
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>>173502085
[Top Right]
We will make YoRHa's S model's dream come true!!

[Bottom 1st panel]
You're so noisy

[2nd panel]
Desert

>>173506950
*This one has a weird panel order
*Top left>below it>Top right>below it>bottom left>bottom right

It seems I have fallen in love!!

Won't you have a quintessential love with me!?

I truly love you 2B!!

Okay!
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>finally decide to play this game
>white screen 5 minutes in
oh
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>>173519850
>>173520987
>>173522580
>>173525816
I'm surprised you guys feel that way.

You didn't get any closure from the main characters being reconstructed and allowed to live out their lives as they choose?
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>>173526405
Thank you translate-anon.
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>>173526429
Sorry AMD :(

Fix is "on the way" but I think there's an unofficial one on the steam forums somewhere.
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>>173526465
I loved it. I think it's a better kind of closure than the hero gets the girl, saves the world, everything everywhere is fixed and everyone lived happily ever after.
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>>173525837
6O here again! She never remembers. I'm not supposed to either, but I have my way of backing myself up.
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Is Nier Automata getting DLC? what special thing is planned?
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>>173527665
Nier high school edition.
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>>173527665
nier automata gestalt
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>>173527665
You get thrown into an arena with Caim and Angelus. They murder you in dozens of fantastic and spectacular ways that really makes you think.
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Man spear of the usurper really has a pretty story
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>>173527665
Shopping mall deito
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>OHKO hard mode
>switch back to easy when I die to take back my chips
Who /pussy/ here?
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>>173528538
I just played on normal from beginning till the end
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>>173511929
Well, you certainly know more about her abilities than I do so I won't debate that.
I was impressed by how the VA handled the emotional nuances of the progressively humanizing machine throughout. Pascal was probably my favourite character so I'm glad they brought out big talent.
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>emil's determination
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So why is there no PC Black Box edition? Are the production costs of replacing the Disc with a DL code too great to be worthwhile?
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>>173529985
>gathering keepsakes
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>>173530432
>sorting problems (2)
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>>173530432
Thanks for reminding me, it will be great evening...
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>Nier and D1-3 Remakes
>Boss rush
>PH landing or A2 prologue
>T-shirt DLC
What else missing from annoncement would cause riots?
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>>173512079
>>173513369
This, i felt it went fast, then i read the comments and noticed i was not the only one thinking that. Like this anon said, now focus on cute things with 2B and 9S, maybe he can bring her to the lunar tears field and... dunno, you decide what
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>>173476572
That was the renamed n64 joke
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>>173526405
a more classic order seems to fit somewhat better though. left to right, top to bottom, so top left>top right>center left>center right etc.

>It seems I have fallen in love!!
>I truly love you 2B!!
>Won't you have a quintessential love with me!?
>Okay!
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>>173532349
No
I put the order as it should be, because this is a meme
https://youtu.be/icGaclNBdfk
He's the first kid
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>>173526626
Have they announced that fixes are coming out? Or is it just kinda hearsay
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>>173531618
I mean... those things would be fun "sidequests" or whatever for the story but at its core I don't think it would advance their relationship in a very meaningful way.

Fluff is good but I don't want to make it the core of my writing.
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>>173532473
Aw the kid was tearing up.
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>>173533672
Oh, okay then. But could you write another story with fluff ? I really like how you write and its seems a lot of faggots here (including myself) want cute and lovely things. Do it for us writefag-san
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>>173533672
I'm going to be editing the chapter some time today or tomorrow. I tried to narrow down just WHERE it was so fast and I think it was in that dialogue with 9S and A2.

I'm thinking I'll add a segment similar to the first few chapters where 9S hacks A2 and discovers just WHY she acted that way, rather than have it just be the logical conclusion of "2B is based on me and 2B is really 2E so obviously I was just "protecting" you.

People seemed to really like the group hug at the end though, so I'm not gonna change from where 2B arrives to the end.

>>173533595
They are officially "investigating reported issues" and that a patch should be out "soon".
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>>173534040
Axiom keeps coming up with more and more fluff ideas which are of course, fun to implement.

We're taking the approach that "N[0] one left behind" will be the "main quest" and that any sidequests should really be able to stand by themselves and would just be a part of our canon.

Ergo, their own fics. Oneshots basically.

Anything you really want to see?
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>>173534084
Yeah that would work and he would see A4. Everyone likes hugs.

Is Return to Ash-anon still here? When are you going to update????
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who are the 6 that pod042 mentions in ending E? He says he's glad that "we 6 have met" or something along those lines...
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>>173526465
I think the main issue for me was that it resolved the wrong conflict. I found myself much more invested in the nuance of the 2B and 9S relationship, especially after the E Type reveal, rather than the state of Androids vs Machines. 2B's death doesn't even result in any sort of long term character improvement... we just get 9S falling apart, going insane, and dying.

In fact, ending C/D pushed the nihilistic narrative focus on the machine conflict so hard, I found myself quickly numbed to it, because I couldn't relate to it. Oh no, the Androids are trapped in this sort of eternal cycle, being used as a constant source of machine evolution. Oh here's this strange actor N2 who is barely introduced before departing. What do I care? I just wanted to see 9S and 2B smile again, or failing that, I wanted to see a member of the main cast make through the struggle better than they were before it.

Then Ending E comes along and feels seriously handwavy. The game opened with memory backups and lowered consequence for death - then third route takes it away via the destruction of Bunker and kills off 2B. Then somehow that sense of finality is removed via Pod 042 Dues Ex Machina; the characters did not naturally reach that conclusion on their own. Meanwhile once their survival was shown, I was looking for 2B to apologize, 9S to forgive, and for them to hold hands, hug, kiss, go shopping or whatever. But instead of showing us, we're left to do the legwork of how the main cast will relate with each other after waking up, or maybe seek out a fanfic. Thus I felt like the thing I wanted closure on didn't receive it.
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>>173535283
He just means the two pods themselves, MC androids and _me
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About route C and end E, did the game ever require you to get pods B and C? Or were there always 3 of every pod unit? During route C there's multiple text dialogue parts where pods 042 and 153 talk, and they alternate between their a/b/c versions when talking.

>>173535283
Funny you posted that as I was typing this.
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>>173535283
There are 6 pods that help.
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>>173535283
>>173535474
>>173535498
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=62310069
Can anyone translate?
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>>173535673
What happens if you choose 9S as pod42? I tried to stay "canon" with my choices so I had 42 go with A2 and grillpod stick with 9S.
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>>173535395
I see what you mean and if it were nearly any other set of circumstances that led up to E, I would agree.

But since it was YOU that was fighting through the bullet hell, and how you got help from other players to "break through the game's programming" to get the real ending. To me, that's what gave it legitimacy.

The feeling of fighting not only the game, but its creators to get an ending that's really not supposed to exist. That's what made the ending for me.

And it's an open ending! So it lets your imagination run wild and gives writefags and drawfags easy material to work with.
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>>173535949
That's a lot of text.
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>Can't equip A2's wig on 2b

Dropped.
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>>173536209
Can you do the ones with A2 at least?
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So the idea is that NieR retconning his own existence is canon and that's why he's not mentioned at all in the game?
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Should I get this on PC or PS4? I will be getting a PS4 sometime next week and this game's currently on sale over at amazon. I also do have a good computer as well and a 360 controller
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>>173536652
His gestalt data is still intact and that's how best girls N2 were made.
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What was the point of A2 cutting her hair?
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>>173536848
Scuttlebutt is that the PC version is janky, but performance patches are coming down the pipe. Don't bother getting it for PS4 unless you're planning on shelling out for a PS4 Pro.

Short-term reward route: PS4.

Long-term reward route: PC
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>>173536974
Thanks. I'll keep an eye out on the PC patches
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kek
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>>173536282
fucking this
please I need this in my life
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>>173537052
Get both, Taro is running out of whiskey.
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>>173536196
I will admit I have lightened up a fair deal from when I first beat C/D/E. At that point I was pretty pissed off and frustrated with the whole ordeal. Now I'm just mildly disappointed it wasn't something else.
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For run C prologue is it even possible to save Alpha Squad? Tried this several times now.
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>>173536969
she was autistic and unable to comprehend that such act is in no way good or needed to pay respects to someone
or you can see it as a kojima move where people seeing A2 with short hair would think it's 2B in different outfit
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>>173536652
Basically.
Guess that goes to show that naming a franchise after a character isn't really the best idea since if you want to take this shit anywhere else and that character died or in Nier's case is irreparably and irrevocably fucking gone, you're going to have a lot of people asking questions.
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>>173537229
No, the only YoRHa that survives are 2B, 9S, A2, 4S and the druggie. The rest all die.
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>>173536969
>>173537243
Wasn't there some dealy about part of 2B's memories being in her sword? I still have no idea what the significance behind that was.
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>>173537465
... And the one in the oasis.
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>>173536652
Automata happens after ending E, a continuation of ending D that Taro made up for Grimoire Nier, where Emil and Kaine bring Nier back into existence by using the memories of him that were stored in the memory tree.

Nier gets brought up once or twice in Automata, but because you can name Nier's character anything you want in the first game he's referred to ambiguously as "him" by Emil.
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>>173537243
>she was autistic
I imagine A2 as Irene sometimes.

>>173537559
Yeah, A2 was holding her sword and 2B's memories started leaking with her own. Guess it happened automatically.
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>>173528538
Did that yesterday after I turned on Very Hard mode and stood in front of Adam who was half my level, not having read that the mode is 1-hit KO.

I then spent a few minutes frantically trying to find my body amongst the many others before remembering it's marked on the minimap.

>>173474873
Here. It felt pretty freaking good.
>walking around while pondering what decision to make because both suck
>end up near door, but not thinking I can go out
>Pascal sounds more panicked
>try inching more to door
>it opens
>he sounds more desperate
>take final steps through threshold, thinking the game won't let me
>Pascal's final words and the door closing
I was pleasantly shocked.

>>173536969
I don't know, but figured it was a burial gesture or one of respect. Or maybe it was her taking on 2B's wishes and she did it to resemble her at least a little (but if that were the case, merely having her weapons would be enough imo).
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>>173537053
either there's 30 people doing this joke or this guy cannot stop dying
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>>173538432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFy8CayoPmE
Man I can't remember any other game that makes me remember the credits so fondly.
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>>173536043
You don't choose which pod supports which character. You just choose which character whose narrative thread you follow first. 042 always reassigns to A2.
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Would you a big 9S?
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>>173537465
The YoRHa units that resistance guy kidnapped and brainwashed might have survived as well, though frankly let's hope they didn't.
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>>173539193
A E-type ganked them, you receive a mail from the Commander saying they were found dead "probably" murdered by machines.
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what happens if I don't kill him?
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>>173539513
He doesn't die because he didn't get killed
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>>173539298
>tfw I found that sidequest that reveals the existence of Type E's super early
Now THAT'S how you do foreshadowing right.
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What model of Yorha would you guys be? I would obviously be Type D
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>>173539298
It bothered the whole game how you never got any orders to go back and rescue them. No clue how I missed that message.
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>>173539929
What even ARE type Ds?
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>>173539962
What? You need to read the mail saying they are dead to complete the quest.
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>>173539929
With [D]ick?
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>>173540092
>>173540245
Danish
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>>173537775
>Grimoire Nier

Is that where the initial records of the alien invasion were detailed as well, or is that the Yorha play? Is there someplace all that supplemental shit has been compiled?
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>>173539929
type B
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>>173539929
Type E.

Tsh. Nothing personal, kid.
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>>173539513
Do it coward
I dare you
DO IT
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>>173540340
Grimoire Nier is a book released for the first game that has a lot of background info in it. You can read the fan translated parts here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vEP2iZ52P-DWhQBQ2Is6R8Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/mobilebasic?viewopt=127

The alien invasion was in a drama CD for the first game. Translation here:
http://nier2.com/blog/2015/12/13/nier-drama-cd-the-space-war/

YoRHa stage play covers A2's backstory. Translation here:
http://firesanctuary.com/yorha-stage-play/
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vague hope is a GOOD SONG.
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>>173536969
In some Asian culture it's tradition to cut your hair when you are fully abandoning your past/heritage. It's a sign of new beginings/starting at nothing.
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>>173541594
I forgot to clarify old/past culture. It's not a modern thing
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>>173538834
I would, but his outfit is a bit gay.
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>>173539929
I would be a A-type.
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>>173540092
Defender.
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>>173540092
Here are all the YoRHa types.
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>>173539929
A Type R for Rapist
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>>173541548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFCxGGpjqJ0
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>>173539929
Type Devola
>>
ThANk you for...foR the FLOWErs.
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>>173535395
Pretty much how I feel. Although I did find the focus on the machine conflict interesting as well and I'm glad the game didn't become completely about the relationship between 2B and 9S. But I also wished there was just a bit more to ending E. Wouldn't have had to been much, just a short interaction between 9S and 2B would've been enough.

Overall I'm still glad and somewhat surprised we got a mostly happy ending, since that's not something Yoko Taro usually does.
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>>173542347
What happened to the Sniper units?
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>>173542347
>C - Canceller

When do we meet a C-type?
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>>173542729
when is this from?
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>>173539929
I'd be a popola, ngl
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>>173543292
They got rid of them. They have pods now.

>>173543354
Maybe they're mentioned in the world guide book.
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There's no way to finish every sidequest with 2B, right?
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>>173543016
doesn't he? nier's ending e was pretty happy. he's restored to life/existence and gets to live with kaine and emil for whatever time, possibly until the end of his life. even yonah seems to have gotten better in one of the endings that showed her and nier's future.

sure, the humanity's fucked, but a happy ending is about the protagonist's potential happiness, not the bigger picture. that's unimportant to them.

it's just drakengard series that ends up shitty for its protagonists.
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>>173542990
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>>173539929
E for EYE
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>A2 finally gets her realization and can now join her friends and lover in death.
>Pod 042 resurrects her.
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>>173543695
No because 9S has special side quests for him.
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>>173543703
the ending you are thinking about where yonah is shown "getting better" is actually a flashback, it's more obvious in the japanese version since they show both as children.
In grimoire nier it is confirmed that yonah will eventually die from the black scrawl
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>>173542347
>no Operator
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This year's YoRHa spring fashion line has finally been unveiled.
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>>173543963
Its okay if i fapped to him last night?(no homo, grill)
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>>173542347
>Canceller

What the fuck are they supposed to do? Being contrarians?
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Who here /gotNotThatIMindachievemtbutdidn'tgetWhatAreYouDoing?achievement/?
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>>173544253
I got both but the latter first
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>>173544253
Me, i just love that little shota ass (and his legs)
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>>173543930
I feel bad for A2. Now she has to watch 2B and 9S be all over each other.

>>173544150
I think all of us girls fap to him, so it's fine. 2B is lucky as fuck to have him
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>>173544310
*former
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>>173544412
9s isn't a shota, just manlet!
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>>173544440
She can have some fun with Anemone, maybe.
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>>173543703
That's fair but this time the ending was actually in the game. And yeah, I was mostly referring to Drakengard as that is technically the main series and Nier is more of a spin-off.
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>>173544440
A2 can have...The pods?
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>>173544440
Good to see i am not the only one, 2B is a really lucky girl as you said
>>173544457
Cmon he looks like 16 years old (and i dont mind, its cute), he is a manlet and i dont like manlets but its an exception in this case, and to be honest he is the same height as 2B without heels so, its okay
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>>173544440
She and Pascal fall in love and eventually they adopt a child. The child is 9S.
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>>173544845
>a manlet
He is pretty tall 2B's heels are just crazy
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>>173544912
Since A2 is the base for new Yorha so technically she's already 9S's (and 2B's) mother.
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I want to squat using A2 as a barbell, but she isn't real

and so I lift, to fill the void
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>>173544989
all of them are pretty much average by japanese standards. manlets/womanlets by western standards.

they're like 1.6 m tall.
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>>173544624
Doubt she would get over A4 tho, but it's a possibility.

>>173544737
Pod 042 will be her companion. He would just bully her like N2 did.
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>>173545249
Pod 042 and A2 is best pairing
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>>173544845
>he is a manlet and i dont like manlets but its an exception in this case,
same, it's ok if they're anime-tier cute. But Irl I want someone taller than me.
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What's the dank lore on Eve's three-eyed machine symbol?

>>173497501
>Implying the Commander didn't survive and is still floating in orbit with a stern look on her face waiting for the next game
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>>173539929
Scanner

In the case androids don't have genitalia, hacking each other is the closest thing to sex
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>>173545205
Man 160cm is a manlet, i am a girl and my height is 170cm, more than 2B with heels, wtf
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>>173544845
>Cmon he looks like 16 years old
this does definitely not constitute shota
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Does it really not occur to 9S that A2 might have put B2 down because she was infected?
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>>173545443
>Eve's three-eyed machine symbol?

He and Adam are two individuals who make up the singular C&C of the machines, two halves becoming a whole

my guess when I first saw it
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>>173545471
Mean to quote
>>173544989
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>>173545205
Yeah, without her monster heels 2B is the same height as 9S, who stands at an imposing 160cm (5 feet 2 inches, for the burgers in the audience) tall. They certainly don't make em tall.
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>>173545598
I'm sure it occurred to him, he just didn't care. He needed an outlet for his rage and even if A2 told him straight up that she put down 2B because she was infected he probably would have argued that he could have saved her
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>>173545443
a reference/nod to this.
http://drakengard.wikia.com/wiki/Cult_of_the_Watchers
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>>173545471
>cm
Fucking euros

So apparently ALL westerners would be fucking giants in Japan, it would be weird having a good foot on 9S, let along a head over any of the androids IN HEELS.

Why did they design them so short? Wouldn't it be more useful to have bigger androids?
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>>173545629
That's really tall, taller than me by far and I'm one of the tallest guys here
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>>173545354
Damn right.

>>173545471
>170cm
I wish I was that tall. I'm 2B and Nines height. I guess I fit right in with the YoRHa androids.

>>173546025
>Why did they design them so short?
So they wont be a target and it's faster for them to ove out of the way.
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>>173545471
I'm 184cm and once I had to travel to japan for my job and nip kids called me Goji.
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>>173546025
Their strength is clearly not proportional to their size, so not really. In fact being more compact might be an advantage in this case.
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>>173546143
The hell?

170cm is tiny. 180 is a little below 6ft.
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>>173546259
>>173546428
Why not just have armies of thousands of pocket size androids then?
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>>173545912
>he probably would have argued that he could have saved her

Could he have though? I almost kind of got the feeling that 2B just gave up and wanted to die because she was tired of having to kill him, hence just isolating herself instead of trying to find him and get fixed.
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>>173546143
>>173546259
I dont know really, 170cm girls are normal in my country (argentina) and some are like 178 (mostly models).
>>173546442
Okay so all /ndg/ is manlet/womanlet or what?

9S is a manlet end of discussion.
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>>173546259
*move

>>173546562
I dunno. The Illuminati androids wanted hot looking ones instead.
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>>173546562
image
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>>173546628
>Okay so all /ndg/ is manlet/womanlet or what?
Yup. We're all smol Nines.
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>>173546814
I want to take her home and comb her hair and put frilly stuff on her and teach her to play AoE II
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>>173547075
Why AoE of all the games you can teach her.
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>>173546562
Androids were made in the image of humans to send a message to the machines, giving them unrealistic sizes would be going against that idea.
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>>173547450
I really like AoE, she looks like someone who would struggle with it and that might be fun to watch. But I would teach her all kinds of games mostly fightans I guess
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>>173547606
A2 might B-mode your computer if she loses.
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>>173546562
Well we know the size of the black box, which powers all of the androids functions. Nothing as powerful as them could fit in a space smaller than a buraku boxu, and perhaps the majority of the android torso is filled with cooling, power storage, whatever equipment lets them project near fields and generate weapons from thin air, etc. Not only that but the human form is quite useful, especially when interacting with environments designed for humans. Also the human form probably makes it much easier for androids to draw clear differences between themselves and machine lifeforms, thus making it more emotionally acceptable to kill them.
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>>173547606
>struggle with
Oh i see, that would be cute, i can see Pod042 bullying her because of that.
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>>173547898
I don't mind I would still hug her and take care of her hair and buy her cute clothes
>>173547939
I can also see him being better than me and bullying me at the same time
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>>173543695
No, as a significant number of sidequests require hacking and therefore aren't available when controlling 2B.
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>>173548120
In addition, many are significantly easier (parade comes to mind).
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>>173545443
>What's the dank lore on Eve's three-eyed machine symbol?

It's the symbol of the cult of the Watchers from Drakengard. As far as we're aware it doesn't have much significance except from Eve wanting to destroy the world at that point which matches with the cult's goal. Now you may draw from this what you wish (for instance him being influenced at this point by the watchers, whose influence spread when the queen beast was moved to Tokyo in the events that set off Nier Gestalt/Replicant).
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>>173547992
>buy her cute clothes
Would she want to wear cute clothes?
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>>173547606
Why not play N:A with her?

Fuck, that gave me an idea.
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>>173546143
That's not tall at all. That's below the average length of a girl here.

As a 197 cm guy I'd consider that pretty tiny.
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>>173548612
Maybe if she discovers how much money I spent on them she would so to make me feel happy?
>>173548674
How would she feel?
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>>173549260
>How would she feel?

That's what makes it interesting anon.
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>>173549430
I wouldn't like it if she felt bad during the game though
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>>173549556
She would develope feelings for 9S and that is not good, if you know what i mean. 9S is only for 2B
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>>173549707
Nah
>>173549556
If I had the opportunity to view my life as a movie/game you bet I would.
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Guys, I have a normie friend that only plays CSGO, Overwatch and Dark Souls that want to try Nier Automata, but I am sure that he is to idiot and will start shitting on it before finishing route B, how can i convince him to keep playing?
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>>173550051
You get more story the more you play, like dank souls.
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>>173550051
Don't force people to do shit they don't wanna do, specially with videogames.
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>>173550051
If he doesn't keep going he doesn't deserve it
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>>173549707
Eh it's not like androids would have any reason to only form couples except for imitating humanity, since there's nothing like sexual reproduction requiring 2 people for them.
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>>173550051
You can bring a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

Routes A/B are pretty quick if you don't focus too much on grinding/sidequests. Encourage him to push through those two routes. I liked the game during A/B, but the beginning of C was what really sells the game.
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>>173542347
N type

ill be the best NEET there is!
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>>173550409
My stupid boyfriend played it until half of route C and today he told me he doesnt want to play it anymore, I am fucking mad at him.
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>9S starts talking to 2B
>POD starts a call from an Operator to start a quest
Reeeeeeeeeee.
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>>173550701
Replace him with better and newer model. I hope you have a backdoor to his bunker to let the logic virus get in so you can do that faster
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>>173550701
Wipe his memories and hope he develops a better personality next time.
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>>173550701
How does anyone get to the title drop for route C and not want to finish everything?
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It hurts so much guys. I loved the commander,21O,6O. I mean it's a wonderous thing that 2B and A2 are alive but why couldn't they have made it?

Maybe this is all just a stageplay and after their role is done they go behind the curtains for laughs, hugs,luncheon and congratulations. Everyone from the Commander to Eve.
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>>173551093
I feel you man I wish Devola and Popola survived in a world where they don't have to feel guilty and can be be happy
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>>173550701
This kind of stuff makes me find the wandering couple sidequest significantly less disturbing.
Time to get the memory wipe and add some better features.
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>>173551093
21o and 6o i guess, but you don't know about the commander. she's supposedly a resistance model who got transferred to the bunker, so likely not a yorha, and thus has no black box. so, when they confirm all black boxes are offline, that doesn't qualify her.

maybe she's still floating around somewhere in space with a stern look on her face after the bunker blew up.
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>>173550942
>>173551062
>>173551091
>>173551342

Fucking kek I love you guys.
>tfw 9S will never be your boyfriend.
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I'm going to delete my save manually. I don't feel like finishing this play through.
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>>173551551
Same here. Does somebody here have a deleted save ending screen save (that sounded stupid)
I want to replay it but with this title screen
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>>173551483
If I was a girl or gay I'd rather have Eve
he's just all about love
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>>173551974
But Adam is refined and cool and has a good fashion sense
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Is there any place I can look up common questions or issues with PC version?

I have a 770 and keep crashing when I go to the resistance camp trying to figure this shit out
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>>173551826
Not sure if I want to use that or this as my wallpaper for the next good long while.
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>>173552063
Well, there's a PC issues mega-thread on the Nier subreddit.
.


There should also be a pinned topic on the N:A Steam discussion forums for a mod that should improve performance. I think it's called FAR or something.
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>>173552178
I just want a subtle nier automata wallpaper for my notebook, I have to bring it to college and I dont want to look like a weeb faggot with 2B ASS as my desktop background.

Post wallpapers guys.
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>>173552513
I don't think it's subtle, but it is tasteful
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>>173552063
try switching physX from auto/gpu to cpu.

nvidia control panel > configure surround, physx > physx settings.

it fixed constant driver crashes for me in the past.
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>>173551483
I'll be your bf, I was gonna cosplay 9S sometime
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>>173546025
Because they were made in mankind's image, and mankind probably got shorter due to poor nutrition after WCS fucked everything up.
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>>173552513
There's a Nier thread on /w/, friendo.

>>>/w/1996496
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>>173552513
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>>173552574
Forest King ;-;
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>>173525342
Taro doesn't give a fuck about achievements.
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>>173552513

>>173551826
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How many of you bought the OST?

I pre-ordered it the moment I finished E.
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>>173552704
post pic if you do it.
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>>173552880
Makes sense, the achievements kind of ruin the destruction of evidence that happens at the true end.

So he put in a way to make the achievements useless anyway.
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>>173553012
>want to preorder
>shipping is 160% of the price of the album
I'll wait for a better retailer than squeenix itself
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>>173552513
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>>173553202
I have never felt about a soundtrack like this before and I just got my tax refund. Felt like it was worth it.
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>>173473621
How is this in color!?
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I need help figuring out how the countering works in this game

I played MG:R and it was pretty simple there. When you see the right light, you hit attack+analog in the direction of the attack. If you timed it right you did an automatic riposte, otherwise you just blocked the attack.

Here it doesn't seem to make any sense.
>It says to just flick the stick (without hitting attack?) but that does nothing.
>If you flick while hitting attack, that just does a normal attack.
>If you evade during the red eyes, you do a perfect evade but no counter
>if you evade, THEN hit the attack, you do a riposte of some kind, but it isn't the counter attack (doesn't do % of incoming damage)

So how the fuck do you reliably do the attacks where you can return a % of incoming damage back?
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>>173553620
It's a glitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cQSEgg7FzU
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Man, the weapon stories in this game are nuts. I wonder what the person writing them wanted to achieve with them.

Aside from that: opinions on what the best weapon stories are? My favourite are the phoenix weapons.
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>>173553737
It's just flicking in the direction of the attack
That's it
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>>173553737
I had the chip on accidentally and I think I triggered it a few times. I think the timing is earlier than you're thinking, definitely earlier than a perfect evade, sometimes even feels like a tapped the direction around half a second before the attack hit. It doesn't seem to matter whether you're attacking or not either.
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>>173553737
I didn't even know I could do it without the chip
>>173554035
Really liked the spear of the usurper, the virtuous weapons and the machine weapons in general, iron will also deserves a mention
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>>173554096
If I do that, the attack either hits me, or misses me and I try to flick at the second incoming attack and that hits me instead.

The analog flicking seems to not have anything to do with the red eye signal and seems to have a cooldown time or something because if you want to -intentionally- counter, it never works. It only works when I spam it alongside evade and some how get lucky
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Are any of the weapons you get later in the game any better than the starter weapons? I keep expecting the damage numbers to wow me but everything is a sidegrade at best.
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>>173554035
2B/9S weapons give a shitload of info about their feelings for each other, quite metaphorically but easily understandable and applicable to the story.

Aside from them, Phoenix ones and katana that is given to you by N2
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>>173553901
She's pretty
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>>173553737
Red eyes just means they are starting the attack, but it might not necessarily hit you then. Just tap the stick towards the enemy when you would get hit. You can even mash tap it and still trigger counter pretty easily. You don't have to attack at all.

>>173554313
>I didn't even know I could do it without the chip
You need the chip equipped. Its basically the Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa accessory from Bayonetta.
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>>173554513
All weapons are viable, it's level 4 upgrade that makes them unique.
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>>173553737
Walk towards the attack and press evade.
Instead of an evade you'll block the attack with your arms.
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>>173551483
I want a 9S boyfriend too.
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>finish Nier
>get Nier OST
>listen to Ashes of Dreams for a long time
>start listening to the other songs

>all the different versions of Song of the Ancients

Devola and Popola... had a hard life...

NO ONE STOOOOOPS
;-;
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How do I pet my Pod on PC?
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>>173544253
What's with the no spaces?
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>>173555187
quickly move your mouse around in a small circle.

>>173554035
Probably the most interesting one is the Type-40 sword, as it clearly states that magical elements were used in the construction of the YoRHa weaponry. This indicates that magic hasn't disappeared since Nier, but instead it's been integrated into their technology.
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>>173554610
The hitboxes are way to vague to reliably counter if that's the case.

Guess I'll go back to stacking taunts and shockwaves and running away from everything.
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>>173546025
>Fucking euros

Enjoy this map of third world countries not using metric.
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>>173554035
Machine Sword

>The more old records I read, the more fascinated I become by the species known as humans. We machines must do all we can to preserve these precious artifacts and continue to record their contents."
>I see from the records how important predation and reproduction were to human survival. And yet, they viewed such acts as sinful. I wonder why?
>I found a famous human book today, but after reading it ten times, it still makes no sense to me. What possible attraction could there be to such a thing?
>Eureka! It seems the answer was in front of me all along! I am simply incapable of comprehending anything - about humanity OR the world in general! Ah, how wonderful it is to live in a world swaddled in mystery!
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>>173554941
except this doesn't counter, it just blocks, and doesn't evade either
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>>173555723
Is that machine, literally me?
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>>173555643
There aren't any good nier pictures with the word "FREEDOM" underneath them.

Who's the most American character in Nier guys?
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>>173555643
The US uses the metric system for everything except for casual conversation and media, There are still some local businesses that use inches (like construction standards) but they also work in metric too.
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>>173556076
Clearly Pascal
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>>173556076
How is that even a question.
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>>173555962
And that's the "counter", the block sends back damage if you have the chip.
Actually it seems you don't need to hit evade, just walk towards the attack at the right time.
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>>173556208
Wait, so you have to hit evade AND move toward the enemy? Not just move toward the enemy?

That makes much more sense than the in-game description, because just flicking the stick has never worked for me.
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>>173543910
MY LEGS ARE FINE
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>>173549260
Would you buy outfits like this for A2?
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>>173556681
Yes, but I would buy various types and styles to see which ones she likes better. I would try really hard to make her like pink stuff though
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I want to hug crossdressing 9S!!!
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>>173556431
No you do not press evade to counter. Stick only. Countering has strict timing and has to be tapped right when you would be hit. Dodging is easier because it can be done earlier and still trigger perfect dodge.
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>>173556117
The imperial system will infects many old standards, like gas fittings, but also chip footprints. This is the reason why we still have a special set of imperial wrenches and imbus keys in our workshop in Europe.
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>>173556860
Can't see her liking pink ever, but 2B would like it.
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Was there ever an explanation for why 9S tried so hard to convince 2B that robots had no feelings? Him and 2B switch on and off from a hostile/dismissive to sympathetic/curious attitude throughout the first routes. Were they just coming to grips with what they were seeing in robot behavior (and inside the machines as 9S) or something deeper?
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>>173557431
That's why it would be fun to try and make her wear it, specially if she gets flustered of using actual clothes
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>>173555723
i wonder if this may be related to adam.
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>>173556681
Why would you buy clothing for someone who walks around literally naked.
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>>173557623
She used to wear clothes, but now she doesn't give a fuck.
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>>173557623
Because she is pretty and I want to see her wearing pretty stuff to look even prettier. I do that sometimes with my friends but not much since they get annoyed if I buy too much shit
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>>173557773
Why is A4 being smug?
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How long until I feel normal again?
I was going to play the first Nier when my copy arrives but I think it would be a waste as I can't feel sorrow anymore.
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has this been cracked yet?
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How does Taro feel knowing he made one game that actually sold?
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>>173558043
No, and the cracking groups said they don't have any plans to in the nier future.
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>>173557913
She can be a little shit sometimes. Just like 9S.
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>>173558043
No and besides, good luck finishing the game without network access.
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>>173558250
But 9S is a shit all the time
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>>173558172
According to his twitter happily confused
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>>173558245
why not?
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>>173558395
Sounds like me when I don't fuck up and people don't hate me after meeting me
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>>173558043
It's in a weird middle ground. Hard to say why it's been so slow if it was becuase the sleeper hit it was or is the encryption is that much a chore.
>>173558348
You can get bot help in the end
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>>173558452
No idea, I just remember an anon here posting a chatlog at them laughing at the people crying about Nier 2 still not being cracked.

Just buy the damn game, it's worth it. Otherwise quit bitching people aren't giving you shit for free.
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>>173558452
Anon was likely jesting
That said it seems with each Devio crack it gets longer and longer for the next. Prehapes each crack can be traced and as such improved upon?
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>>173558172
>Thank you so.......so much. I can't describe by my poor English. But thank you. (;_;)
From his twitter on the 1 million sales announcement.
I think he's very happy.
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>>173558731
>$60 for a shitty port
id rather wait for the crack or a sale
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>>173558842
GRRRRRRRRRR!!!
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>>173558379
He's not that bad.
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>>173558842
K. Get comfy friend
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>>173558827
So cute, I want to be his friend
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>>173558842
That isn't a lot of money and the port's fine. If it doesn't run well for you, you can get a refund.
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>>173558957
Anyone here go full scum and set the mode to casual put on a bunch of auto features and leave the character in a infinite spawn point till you reach max level?
I was rather surprised it let me do that.
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>>173559047
You could also just hack the bunny statue with a bunch of Exp Up chips equipped to level super fast.
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>>173558978
We all do anon but we shouldn't get to clingy, might scary him away to his restaurant calling.
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>>173559154
That's a problem I face when I meet someone I like, that's a good reminder
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So, what do you guys think... when Command provided 9S with the intel, do you think she also secretly pulled 2B aside and suspended her E-type tasks? I mean, 9S was seriously considering telling 2B what he had found out before the invasion.

Also, do you think Command had gleaned partial insight into the SS level info and decided to trust 9S in the event of catastrophic mission failure? But if that was the case, then why would she have been so surprised by their presence back on Bunker to warn her about the failed attack?
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>>173559135
yeah but since the patch you have to beat on him till he wakes up, you can't hack him anymore
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>>173554313
>Really liked the spear of the usurper
I loved all of those references to Nier in that sidequest.
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>>173559238
I'm not sure how it is on PS4, but on PC I just had to kill the enemies surrounding him and then hijack one of the machines on the stairs. That always let me hack the statue and get around 20k XP.
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>>173557249
Okay, so countering is basically pointless against new enemies.

Any new threat that deals enough damage to meaningfully counter is going to have way too precise timing needed to worth risking dying during a counter attempt, since a mis-timed counter results in being hit, unlike MG:R where you still blocked.

It seems then like counter is only really meant as a way to beat enemies you've perfectly memorized already but are way above your level like in a speedrun or no damage run, and I shouldn't even bother with it on my first playthrough since I'll die way more trying to counter new enemies than it would help me for the few times I get it right.
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>>173559232
>secretly pulled 2B aside and suspended her E-type tasks?
Maybe.
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>>173559365
I think you can counter during an evade though, which is much safer.
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>>173559474
I really like A4 style I want to play ping pong with her
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>>173559546
what
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>>173559474
I want to cum in her nostrils.
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>>173559678
No
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>>173559474
Where can I see the full play? I'll follow along with Rekka's translation.

>>173559546
Why ping pong?
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>>173559681
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>>173559797
You're no my mom.
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>>173559818
It's fun
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>>173559365
Really thought the rpg elements themselves are fucked in all of Taro's games.
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>>173559818
The play is in the OP's MEGA folder.
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>>173559838
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>>173559839
Go to your ruin young man, it's way past your bedtime and you need to go to school tomorrow morning.
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>>173559232
more like she gave him intel because she knew he's going to be killed again anyway
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>>173560064
Room*
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>>173559232
I don't think she would kill him if he told her.
The way I see it, she reports anything suspicious and only kills him if ordered to.
As far as we know 21O is the one who reports his findings and 2B doesn't actually know anything. She could even desert YoRHa if she found out the truth.
Then again maybe not. She knows better than anyone what happens to deserters.
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>>173560231
What happens to deserters?
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>>173560006
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>>173559520
You mean perfect evade -> riposte?

That's safer but is a different mechanic. It just deals regular damage, not a % of the enemy's damage.

It seems like this is how the different mechanics work:

Counter (Must have counter chip equpped).
>BE STANDING STILL without moving or using melee attacks
>enemy attack comes at you
>flick the stick toward them (very narrow window)
>there's a "clang" sound, you take no damage. you get iframes, and if you have a +1 counter chip, they take a % of the damage they would have dealt.
>If your timing is off, you can't repeat the counter immediately on a second attack, there's a cooldown.

Evade
>press evade at any point while moving (but not attacking), you'll dash in the direction of your analog stick. You have a few iFrames while doing this.
>hold to dash longer, your evade range + chips increase this length.

Perfect Evade
>Press evade (while not attacking) when the enemy's eyes light up red.
>you'll warp (with a noise) to another location and take no damage.
>No cooldown, you can press it as many times as you want to evade.
>A failed perfect evade just evades normally.

Perfect Evade > Riposte
>Do a perfect evade, but instead of moving, press any attack button (gatling, light, strong, etc.) and you'll do a riposte attack that seems to do about as much damage as a strong attack.
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>>173560231
In The Memory Cage novel it seems like she just gets the order to kill him, without any info as to why. She's an obedient girl.

>>173560336
They eat shit. Did you not do the sidequest where you're sent to execute three deserters? 11B wanted to desert and she dies too. She dies due to an enemy attack, but the other YoRHa units from the prologue like 4B do show up later again, so 11B not showing up again is probably because she's a deserter.

The one exception I can think of is the questgiver of the Amnesia sidequest, who got overwrought with guilt and deleted her own memories, which technically makes her a deserter, but you never get the order to kill her and 2B seems to get away from her (for obvious reasons) more than she cares about her loyalty.
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>>173559681
>>173559838
>>173560006
>>173560372
2B is not for lewds!
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>>173560619
Yes, she is. Uploading the new 2B .zip right now.
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>>173560619
Can't say I agree with that!

>>173560694
Awesome. You the 2B Butt guy?
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>>173560765
Yup, gonna be up in around 20 minutes. It'll also have a second .zip with just the new art so people can save some bandwidth, but more on that when I post it.
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>>173560694
>>173560765
2B is pure! Hmm.. Maybe not, since she's fucked 9S multiple times.
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>>173559839
Your mom wouldn't want you Cummings in someone's nostrils.
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>>173560927
>A2 is the purest android
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>>173560336
They get E'd
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>>173560886
Very nice. Fantastic little archive you've got going on.

>>173560927
Now isn't that the truth. Need to get my hands on his model too.
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So after Ending E, are all the Resistance androids dead, too?
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>>173561130
No.
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>>173561130
They're not part of YoRHa so I assume no.
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>>173561130
To my understanding they are fine. They were a diffrent type of android to Yorha. They lack the black boxes as well as the preconceived programming. You also get an after battle report in your archives from Jackass summarizing what happen so she is at least alive.
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>>173560983
A2 is only for A4. ;_; I hope Taro makes a PH DLC, so we can see what A4 looks like in the game.
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Well that's C and D done.

I'm not ready to finish yet

;_;
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>>173561373
I had that idea as well. It's 100% speculation, but the elevators being in the Flooded City, where the bedrock got bombed out from the last war, and the desert, where Facade used to be, made me think it's gonna be flashback DLC. How you reach the past from the elevators I don't know either, but just having terminals with archives that turn out to be playable there is an easy enough asspull for someone like Taro.
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>>173561102
Someone got it, but they didn't release it.
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>>173561470
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>>173561678
Well now. isn't that a shame.
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>>173560886
You are doing gods work. Bless you.
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>>173561102
9S model will be nice, but I'm more excited for likkezg releasing his model on smutba.se, which he said he'll do once he's done with skirt rigging.

What model are you using?
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So like, i just finished all the 5 endings, that's it? I mean the story was all good and whatever, but it was so shallow? Like who was anyone, what is the commander, the council of humanity is 2 girls? I dont know like, Im not feeling what i feel after shit like final fantasy and whatnot, reviews hyped the story literally as the story of the generation so far, what am i missing, are there some fucking dark souls vaatividya lore videos i have to watch to comprehend this?
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>>173562014
Also, what does that mean when it was said 2B has to kill 9S over and over and over again? Like, is he being built over and over again and every time he gets smart enough to discover the purpose of yorha and 2B has to kill him?
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>>173562014
>>173562175
>rushing through the game
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>>173562014
Two things:
Playing the first Nier helps with some of that.
Anytime a quest gives you a report archive or document you should read it.
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>>173560927
can you imagine that? She would actually have experience with that but for Nines it was always his first time................
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>>173561678
Fuck, is that from the facepunch thread or xentax?
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>>173562175
It's plainly told to you at the end. Even if you didn't read the files given to you in the last two chapters I can't see how you miss that.
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>>173561845
I'm using one of the handful of 2B ports that was released for XPS. It's pretty great for the most part, but the skirt bones could be better.
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>>173562014
I think you missed and/or misunderstood a lot of stuff, if you're mistaking N2 for the Council of Humanity and don't realize what 2B's deal is. Seconding >>173562228, a lot of important information is the in archives.
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>>173562225
I didnt though, i did (probably) most sidequests.
>>173562228
I read all the mails and documents that were given.

I mean more like, the whole gist of having free will and chance of the cycle whatever was obvious from the start and nothing was ever done to elaborate it? I was hoping for something more elaborate like androids realising theyre also essentially the same as machines or whatever like jesus christ everyone just died cus why not.
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>>173562014
The commander is a non-YoRHa model android.
She was part of resistance and was picked to be the commander of the YoRHa forces.

The council of humanity is not the two little girls. The girls are N2 and are the embodiment of the machine network.

>>173562175
Yup

You should read the archives in game
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>>173561102
I am tired of all the 2B porn with a random male model, can you make something with 9S and 2B Models?
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>>173562345
I tried importing one of those into Blender using that XPS plugin, but the textures ended up being kind of busted. I wouldn't really be talented enough to do anything anyway, but I wanted to mess around, ya know?

For what it's worth, once I converted them to materials for the cycles renderer or whatever they seemed fine, but still kind of low res.

Got a link to yours?
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>>173562228
>>173562386
>>173562453
So essentially yes i just have to do some vaatividya shit instead of being spoonfed cutscenes. Thanks, all i was asking. I still feel like the story was a bit shallow though, perhaps limited by budget.
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>>173562646
You mean stealing other people's stuff?
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>>173562487
Would love to once I get the model.

>>173562569
I personally can't navigate blender all that well myself. I just stick to XPS for posing. Have to do without rendering. Here's the one I use.

http://shinylightbulb.deviantart.com/art/Download-Now-2B-Nier-Automata-original-model-670383209

I'd say it has better textures than the other ones available out there.
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>>173562935
Holy shit that actually made me laugh, nice.
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>>173562646
>his brain didn't connect all the dots at the end
well at least your're not one of the retards who thinks the machine network created YoRHa
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What's in the zip?
Is it all the lewds or do the old ones get deleted?
Is there cute in there?
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>>173563127
Nah I just apparently have missed alot of reading somewhere, im gonna go find out where, as i honestly have no idea what those N2 actually are or council of humanity or why 2B is an executioner etc. I think im just missing alot of the dots.
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>>173563045
I'll poke around a bit, thanks!

Blender's fairly complicated, but people out there are doing great stuff with it, like those likkezg or yeero fellas on tumblr. They're going to put their 2B model for Blender onto smutba.se, so I'm getting hyped.
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>>173562239
I can imagine it. It probably kills her inside, but at least she gets to be intimate with him before the Commander calls to kill him.

>>173562301
http://theforgottensaint47.deviantart.com/art/9S-Swords-Just-static-models-670577083
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>>173562441
Well 9S does discover that Yorha and Machines are from N2 in the soul box and starts to unheinge pretty bad about that discovery. And when N2 shows him the truth he basicly breaks discovering the whole thing was an experiment about existaince and how predetermanted thoughts and patterns evolved when given choice afterwards.
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>When your boy Taro is into /ss/ and thicc

Patrician taste as expected.
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>>173563552
Who were they keeping up the (endless) illusion of humanity being alive for? If the war was literally endless, what was the point of having it, especially if there was noone to save?
What was all that about the cannon aimed at the moon base, what was the purpose of that, they reconfigured it to an ark which makes way more sense, but what the fuck?
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>>173563352
No prob, best of luck. It looks like you can do some fantastic things with blender, so it might be worth it to really get into it eventually, but I just haven't bothered yet.
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>>173563441
I feel like that's a beautiful comic but I'm missing like, all of the emotion since I can't understand it.

Translator anon?
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>>173563796
They/it seems really interested in evolving parameters for evolving sake. Remember a good pile of the network was arguing if they should spare A2 becuase her conflict have them opportunity to grow. That same drive is what stop them from firing on the Moon was seeing what unfolded between A2 and 9S, they saw potential for more growth.
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>>173564038
i have been requesting a translation for a week and nothing :( /ndg/ is full of bad guys
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>>173560231
>2B doesn't actually know anything

>>173560587
>seems like she just gets the order to kill him, without any info as to why.

-- At that moment, she knew what was going on. The message must have come directly from the Commander, not through the Operator. The timing would have made it difficult to intercept. Classified information within classified information.

-- No. She knew long before she received the actual message. She knew from the moment she and 9S were tasked to investigate the ruins of human civilization. She knew it wouldn’t be long before she’d receive the order to terminate him. Unfortunately, this just proved her right.


The way I'm currently interpretting it, is that she probably has a ballpark idea of what 9S did and why she is getting the order, given that she is predicting when they come in. Plus, she's had a few years to study his activities and pick up on his habits. Not to mention, requiring an order every time would be a waste A2's data design (which supports resourcefulness).

Whether or not she knows S-Level info, it's hard to say. Probably not, if for no other reason than to keep 2B/E loyal. But Commander is also shown to exercise discretion (given by the fact that she gives 9S the info).

>>173560162
>more like she gave him intel because she knew he's going to be killed again anyway

Maybe. It would certainly remove any sense of ambiguity with regards to his level of informational compromise.
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>>173563205
Yes, there is specifically a "Cute" folder in there. There are also A2 and Commander folders, but they aren't nearly as full as 2B. And no, nothing really gets deleted, though it might get replaced when I find uncensored versions of art.
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>>173564314
Im retarded, all this time i thought the moon base was actually destroyed when the robots fucked it. Thats why i was confused on everything talking about the endless cycle when I didnt see how it could continue. Realizing that it's still there and the new cycle starts with better androids I get it cuck my life into pieces.
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>>173564687
It does get destroyed. YoRHa itself isn't cyclical. The game itself says the backdoor is to dispose of the Bunker.
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>>173564687
>Im retarded, all this time i thought the moon base was actually destroyed when the robots fucked it.
The YoRHa bunker is not the moon base. The machines never touched the moon base. Only the bunker was hacked into, because of the security backdoor that was designed to open as part of Project YoRHa.
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>>173564951
No him, but what's meant to happen after the bunker gets whacked?

Also pretty fucking relevant
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>>173564687
In fairness the distinction is only made twice at the start, after that I can see where it be easy to think the orbiting station was where you find what remain of humanity
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>>173565052
The machines managed to hack into the moon base though.
A2 mentions it.
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>>173563441
This girl wrote a fic on the fact that 2B has had sex with him before, but he just can't remember and tells him to stop thinking.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/10410714?view_adult=true
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>>173565098
Query: has AI advanced to acceptable parameters?
>No
Star over with new project of Androids to fight the machines
>Yes
Destroy moon servers and move on to next experiment
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>>173565494
This is not mentioned anywhere specifically.
Only that their combat data will be used in the next generation combat models.
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>>173565052
>>173564951
Where the fuck will the next generation of androids be manufactured??
In the bunker? Who runs that damn bunker then?
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>>173565098
The androids use the data collected from YoRHa to advance their evolution. They may even start a similar project again, there is the implication in Anemone's records that she was also part of a descent force, but the Bunker and YoRHa specifically are kaput.
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>>173565632
Android Command established the Bunker and YoRHa. You don't get to see anything about the broader Android government, but remember the Resistance Camp is a makeshift bullshit tent in occupied territory, not representative of the actual state of androids. They have working space travel and carrier ships and shit.
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>>173565632
You are forgetting that all the Androids in the Bunker were based of data they created as well as copy and stored. They could just make a Commander 2.0 and program her to think they have been at war for 400 years and give her memories to confirm that.
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Let's talk music! What are your favorite songs in each game, and which game has your favorite music?
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>>173565761
Yeah ive read the notes in those pictures, but okay im starting to get it, I was confused by the fact that i didnt know who was running the whole android stuff, so i guess we're not supposed to know and no information was given, cool.
So to this point i now thought the AI in the tower was making new androids (until now i foudn out the moon base was actually completely trashed), so like, who the fuck is the AI who wants to keep evolving and why does it care about making an ark?

Thanks btw for spoonfeeding me youre the hero i needed.
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>>173544150
9S is moe; not for fapping! Same with 2B.

>>173544253
I doubt I'd have ever found out about 'Not That I Mind' if it weren't for the internet. 9S literally loses next to nothing after self destruct and his thighs aren't even a treat. Maybe if he showed a nipple, I'd bother running around with less clothing as 9S.

I got 'What Are You Doing?' only because I kept teasing 2B to see her cute reaction. (I'd literally only been looking at her dress dry when I accidentally triggered the reaction.) After I got the achievement, I felt like a bully.

>>173544845
>he is the same height as 2B without heels
I'm still kinda mad about this.

>>173545598
Why would it really? Last 9S knew, 2B was fine. A2 is perceived to be a traitor. And it seems once 9S has something in his head, there's no changing it ("robots are just robots, they're just emulating").

>>173547898
Haha. There needs to be more art like that.
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>>173565632
The Bunker is just the YoRHa headquarters.
It was only just made in 11938. there are 12 other orbital satellite military facilities that aren't YoRHa.
YoRHa is just a small facet of the android fighting force but they are a rather important Android project.
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>>173565953
Androids are running the android stuff. The analogy is that the androids are to humans as the machines are to aliens.
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>>173566075
Yeah no thats what i meant, we dont know who the androids who are running the androids are.
Also i think you meant androids are to humans what aliens are to machines*
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So am I understanding right and the machines kill their masters very early in the war? Like within the first decade?
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Question; When 9S says shit like "They're robots, they have no feelings, understanding, etc" is he being hypocritical towards his own existence as an android or is there a complete difference between the two factions?

Androids are just machines that use a blood like substance as oil right?
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>>173566243
I can't recall a specific date but if memory serves yes, Adam and Eve tell you during the confrontation on the alien ship that the machine lifeforms killed off the Ayyliens.
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>>173565953
Yeah, there really isn't much about the rest of the world in the game. Taro said he doesn't really care that much about the broader meanings of settings, but rather about the broken characters in it, so I reckon he simply doesn't care about fleshing that stuff out. The setting is there to make 2B/9S suffer and give reasonable justification to their suffering, not give an encyclopaedic account of the next 10,000 years on Earth.

Actually looking into the setting is sort of crushing, too. Because you then realise that YoRHa are basically the Android's crash test dummies and the entire conflict you cared about is entirely and utterly meaningless.
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>>173566304
Androids in general are created to be like humans in every sense, robots are just machines.
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>>173566243
>first decade?
No I wouldn't say that early.
We just know that they've been dead for centuries.
So I'd say they were dead the majority of the machine wars by now(currently in the 14th).

>>173566304
It's ironic because he didn't know then that their black boxes were based on machine cores.
There is a difference between androids and machine lifeforms.
YoRHa is the exception though. Only they have machine cores as their center. All the other androids use some other technology and have true Android AI.
Aside from that machine lifeforms rely on a network that connects them all. The androids have no such thing and are more akin to humans in the way they plan, develop, communicate, etc.
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>>173566824
Isn't there an archive that states the aliens were dead before the first machine war?
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>>173566824
Fun tidbit the Pods seem to be implied that there existence is to keep YoRHa Androids on a network without them knowing.
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>>173566990
No, I haven't seen a specific date mentioned anywhere.
If you find one I'd like to know where cause that would be cool to find out.
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>>173550701
Sounds like he's mourning the loss of 2B. That put a dent in my playing too, but not that badly.

>>173553012
Source on that pic, please. It's too cute.
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>>173565632
There's androids in charge somewhere that we don't know about. Humans were gone soon after the end of Nier 1, so the remaining Devola and Popola units must have been reprogrammed by some other android command separate from the resistance. From what I know, the Devola and Popola androids were made by the World Purification Organization, who were the ones that started Project Gestalt. The humans that were in charge of WPO probably made other androids to take over their positions as they would have needed to undergo gestaltization eventually.

After Project Gestalt failed, those androids in charge started the Next Generation Preservation Project Preparation Committee, which included sending the remaining information on gestalts and replicants to a moon base. They also had plans to design new androids and refine existing models.
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Project+Gestalt+Report+11
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/[Top+Secret]+Project+YoRHa

The YoRHa androids themselves came about as a modification of the Next Generation Combat Unit Project that was going on at the time. There were 13 machine wars before the YoRHa were designed, so new combat units were probably being designed for each war. The events of Automata end the 14th machine war, but based on the Emil Head weapon story the cycle will probably continue.
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>>173566508
But like so still, that is the broader picture that i fully understand now.
But now i have no idea who the AI in the tower was, since i initially thought he was the one driving the android vs machine conflict. Who built THAT guy and why did he make an ark?
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>>173568395
The AI in the tower is the machine network.
Please read this. It was an archive in the game.
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Machine+Research+Report
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>>173568395
The AI is the machine network as it rebuilt itself from the knowledge it found in records of humanity. Check the Machine Research Report in the game for those details. They are only driving the machines vs. android conflict in the sense that they don't want it to stop because otherwise their lives would be meaningless, but there's no grander conspiracy between the network and the androids to drive that conflict. At least, not as far as we know.
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>>173568778
That pretty much sums it up the machines and androids fight, because the machines push the conflict to further evolve, but the cycle will not end because the androids evolve as fast and continually pushing limitations, Adam and Eve were attempts to end the cycle with a machine that could learn besides collecting knowledge. The machines attempt the same thing over and over even if it fails until it succeeds despite knowing multiple solutions and they'll do this in branch network style, hence the machines that weren't really disconnected even though they said they were.
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>>173569070
Yup. What are you guys' thoughts vis-à-vis the Arc? I saw the time the girls showing up in Route B as implying they are paying close attention to the actions of YoRHa (they do get as deep as the Bunker itself, after all) and decided to basically recreate it on a much broader scale: Take all the data about their conflict they have and leave Earth behind, hoping for that data to land on another planet and be the seed for the next, (hopefully) better iteration.
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>>173569070
>because the machines push the conflict to further evolve
Isn't this only a recent development thanks to N2.
To my understanding they've been fighting thanks to that logic error in their orders.
So in order to evolve out of that logic error they intentionally sabotage their network to rebuild it differently.
If they only needed combat to evolve out of their logic error that could've been done forever ago since that's their specialty but they needed non-combat information for it, hence the information in the old quantum server about Gestalt..
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So still, what was the point of the Ark? If the network had already been improving for fuck knows how long, why did it suddenly decide to fuck off into space instead of facing the future generations of androids?
The ark seemed like a last ditch effort when facing danger, but there was no danger to the network at any point though?
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>>173570182
It did not leave because it was in danger.
After all they were on the verge of winning since if they destroyed the moon server that would mean game over for the androids.
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>>173570336
Thats what i said, it was in no danger whatsoever, so why did it leave? It knew a more advanced generation of androids was about to come.
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>>173570336
How so? YoRHa going down is part of the android plan, not the machines'. And remember they didn't even want to win.

I'm >>173569597 and you can see there how I read the Ark thing.
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>>173570508
Were the machines completely oblivious to the top tier androids' ruse? So the Network literally decided to fuck off forever cus he felt like he was winning?
Are you saying the plan within a plan from the android overlords was to make the machines think theyre winning so theyll fuck off? But arent the androids the ones that want to keep the war going?
WHAT
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>>173570508
Getting the moon server hacked was definitely not planned by the Android command. The YoRHa project final stages I'm sure did not account for a cannon to destroying the moon sever.
I do not believe the androids had believed the machine network could reach this level of intelligence and end up at the heart of the matter regarding humanity and it's importance to android morale.

>And remember they didn't even want to win.
That was then. They finally evolved past their contradiction. If not why would they make a cannon to destroy the moon server.
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>>173570708
>Were the machines completely oblivious to the top tier androids' ruse? So the Network literally decided to fuck off forever cus he felt like he was winning?
No, N2 is the one that tells 9S about the YoRHa plan, so they are aware of it for sure.

>Are you saying the plan within a plan from the android overlords was to make the machines think theyre winning so theyll fuck off? But arent the androids the ones that want to keep the war going?
No, the plan of the android overlords was to boost android morale with the lie that humanity is still alive and build better androids and use YoRHa as a testbed for that. That's as far as the information we have ingame goes.

>>173570897
>Getting the moon server hacked was definitely not planned by the Android command. The YoRHa project final stages I'm sure did not account for a cannon to destroying the moon sever.
The backdoor is specifically for the machines, it says so in the document that explains what android command's plan for YoRHa is.

>Getting the moon server hacked was definitely not planned by the Android command. The YoRHa project final stages I'm sure did not account for a cannon to destroying the moon sever.
The tower being a cannon aimed at the moon server is something only A2 says in Ending C. Later, in Ending D, this gets corrected to be an Ark that fires all the knowledge the machines gathered into space. Since Ending D is the only one that gets referenced in our records and the Tower System Outline Intel only mentions the capability of the Tower to compress and send information, not its offensive abilities, I wouldn't be so sure the Tower being a cannon is actually true and more A2 being dumb.
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>>173571358
Okay so but like still WHY the Ark???
If the Network beat the cycle, why wouldnt he just keep evolving by waiting the next advances of androids? Or why wouldnt he just kill the androids?
WHY THE ARK
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>>173570708
Here's the bullet points:
Androids make a loop system to keep Androids moral up
The war is a farce to keep busy hands going
The Machine network gains "human knowledge" and starts playing in everything, including YoRHa.
Main goal? Evolutionary advancement involving existentialism.
Advances to a point where the boss M network (N2) thinks they got it all figured out
Wants to clean slate their evidence and leave
9S and A2's battle moves them to see there is still a chance for more evolution thus spares what remains
The pods now on a higher learning network close(but not the same) to what N2 was want to help give freedom to what remains of the supposed last 3 YoRHa androids.
Pod 042 becomes the hero we don't deserve and saves 9S, 2B, and A2

>what if 9S decided to go to space

I have no clue, nothing changes in the end so either two 9S's exist or he gets bounce back to earth. Most think C is the canon lead in to E where neither 2A nor 9S have a bloody hole in their chest as well as what 153 and 042 talk about in the credits.
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>>173571576
Call it a stalemate action. They were not 100% sure anything new would happen but knew there was a chance for it. So rather than just play the waiting game they left the planet for new challenges and if everything permitted it would return later to see what(if anything) changed.
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>>173571823
Okay if this is indeed true, then i understand all now.

Holy shit the anons in this thread have given me alot of information, i thank you all. This game is now much more interesting to me, just a bit sad they had to take the MGS5 out of budget route of making texts/audiotapes to do 70% of the exposition.
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>>173571358
The backdoor was for the YoRHa Bunker server not the moon server. The machine network was able to hack into the moon server somehow and that is definitely something the androids would not want.
The tower being a cannon aimed at the moon server is mentioned as a hypothesis before A2 says it by 9S and is the later confirmed by A2 and in 9S' dying thoughts by N2.
It is not corrected to being an Ark. N2 changed it's mind and decide it should become an Ark instead. They clearly evolved enough to think the war was something meaningless and that they shouldn't be fighting.
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>>173572000
In fairness some of this might have slogged the game in a bad way where it would be MGS4 levels of trying to stay awake as you are taking 40 minutes of decompressed lore/data to the plot.
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>>173571576
Well, like I said in my initial post I'm also still somewhat confused about that, but do remember that the Ending D VN part seems to imply the machine's routine to be foolish and that the data is shot into space in hopes for those memories to serve as a warning on other planets.
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>>173572032
Oh yeah, you're right. I forgot about them actually changing their mind. Where does it say the machines hacked into the moon server, though?

One thing I want to note however is that we can't operate under the assumption that the android's plan is perfect in any way. They also built the YoRHa androids with machine cores because they didn't consider them sentient and clearly a lot of the problems with YoRHa are due to that sentience alone. You wouldn't need silly "Emotions are prohibited" rules if you actually built your robots to be the simpletons you wanted them to. The backdoor maybe opening up the moon server for a machine attack could be a similar oversight due to them underestimating them.
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I'm waiting for Nier: Au2mata where the 3 main characters partner up with Jackass and the wacky scientist machine that wanted cash to hit the moon and instead hit Mars, fix up his transit system, and go crash the moon server to bring back the data of the commander, their operators, and A2's squad so they can all be revived. 9S gets his androidmom back, A2 gets her comrades and especially A4 back, Jackass gets White back, and 6O gets to explore the world firsthand and fangirl at everyone being cute together forever.
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>>173572552
In the library A2 mentions it after she finds records that are from the moon server.

I never assumed the androids' plan was ever perfect. The whole finale of the game shows just how much the underestimated the machine lifeforms, enough that they were about to lose the war right there and then had the network not realized that war is stupid.
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>>173494421
Here are the scans of The Memory Cage. An anon on /v/ or here scanned it a while ago, but I lost the megalink.
http://imgur.com/a/A9GZO
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>>173572782
Yeah, I remember about the moon server now. However, it still leaves me at a loss as to why they changed their minds to convert the Tower into an Ark, besides the very rough "they're ditching Earth for the next iteration just like android ditches YoRHa" idea I presented initially. Considering the Tower is clearly similar to the Copied City, looking at it in relation to Adam & Eve might give some more insights, but I'll need to brainstorm that a bit first.

>>173572125
Speaking of MGS4, pic related.
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I really want a 2B9S Persona romance game.
https://twitter.com/pullssack/status/851287269918912518
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>>173572782
>>173573468
So what's the significance of the moon server record?
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Human+Server+Records
>Predicted Human Server Infilitration Route (Release
Does that mean an attack was expected, or is it just a record on that server port after an attack happened? Was the genetic data found by the machines, or did they only learn where it is stored?
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>>173574220
>Does that mean an attack was expected

Yes, deliberately engineered, in fact.
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/[Top+Secret]+YoRHa+Disposal

>The backdoor of the Bunker has been set to open once the time approaches to switch to new models when enough combat data has been collected. The Bunker will be disposed of by having it be deliberately attacked by machines. At this time, all materials regarding the YoRHa project, including this document, will be lost, and falsification of the information that mankind still resides on the moon will be complete.
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>>173574429
That's talking about the moon server, though. Which I can't actually make heads or tails of right now, to respond to >>173574220. Considering some of the information is [Browsing Restricted] it might be from the perspective of the machines as they were hacking it, meaning the "Predicted Human Server Infiltration Route" would just be how they are navigating through it, not the humans predicting an attack. But that's just me speculating right now.

Some weird stuff in these archives (that probably won't make 100% sense but it's fun to ponder.)
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>>173574776
>not the humans predicting an attack.
*not the androids predicting an attack, obviously.
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>>173574429
Stop. The YoRHa bunker in orbit is not the moon base on the lunar surface that stores the human genetic data. YoRHa, is meant to be disposed, not the remaining genetic data that is all that's left of humans. Most androids still think there are actual living humans on the moon base, not just data. Purpose of YoRHa was to keep that lie going.
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>>173574918
Oh, I mixed up the discussion, my bad. There is a important distinction between Bunker and Moon Server, and I conflated them.
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>>173536969
It's kind of a far-fetched symbolic thing.

Ancients Chinese used to have braided hair that represents their ranks and what not in military and to show their lineage.

To cut off the braid would mean to abandon your lineage for atonement / punishment or humiliation if others were to cut it off.
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I hear theres a Easter egg if you cheat/edit the game but I have yet to see proof of it
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>>173575553
There's also a tradition in Celtic, Germanic and even Native American tribes to grow out hair during times of peace and to cut it during times of war.

Maybe A2 cutter her hair was her saying "Ok infanticide is fun, but time to get serious about this."
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>>173574776
I was thinking maybe its from machine perspective too. Looking at the library index now I see its a listing of ports, with that human server record being one of them.
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Library+Index
It's hard to tell how much the machines actually know about the human server, since it wasn't really part of the androids plans.
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>>173572168
Yeah or the next Nier game could take place inside a VR high school populated by machine minds all contained within the Ark. Adam is the secret, reclusive Headmaster.

Taro did say he was going to do a high school drama if Persona didn't back the fuck off his fantasy shtick.
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>>173576056
While 2B is the school nurse
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>>173575903
Another thought, maybe the machines only accessed the moon communication server that did the whole Council of Humanity nonsense stuff, the genetic storage might not have been compromised. Whoever was in charge of Project YoRHa might have needed those broadcasts to end too.
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>>173576279
She's the school delinquent.
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>>173576279
Sorry, bro, but that won't work since 2B, 9S and A2 have no reason to be on the Ark. Let them stay on Earth, free from God and his twisted designs.
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>>173576480
>>173576279
>>173576056
This feels like a weird mix of Danganronpa and KLK
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>>173576480
I'd rather popola and devola do that
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>>173576573
Devola is the school receptionist/clerk, Popola is the nurse.
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>>173576546
It's a remake of The Blazing Transfer Student with Nier characters.
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>>173575903
This is also the point where I begin to wonder how much we can rely on the English text. Most of our confusion boils down to the use of "predicted", which may or may not be a thing that fully lines up with the Japanese text. Considering the intel has busted stuff like referring to 8B as an "it", that one word choice might not be something we should read too much into.

Unfortunately, I lack the knowledge to check the Japanese text myself. Maybe someone else can.

>>173576056
There was that highschool drama story featuring Nier characters on the drama CD too:

http://nier2.com/blog/2014/12/13/nier-drama-cd-replicant-private-high-school/
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>the seamless loops the ingame music has
Fuck why doesnt the offical ost have this
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>>173576758
I think it's using the same tech as ffxv for that effect, I could be wrong.
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>>173576813
Probably more building on Metal Gear Rising, considering it's Platinum. They also seamlessly layer in stuff like the hacking switching to the 8bit version of a track without restarting the song, similar to how MGR built up its background music as you played.
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>>173576758
Well crossfading is possible in most audio software
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2B is never actually told humanity is extinct, is she? It doesn't seem like she knows why she has to kill 9S, and he never got the chance to tell her before shit went down on the Bunker and she died.
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>>173577048
Fuuuuuuck I never thought about it like that. She probably figures it's just her job, but doesn't appreciate the bigger picture.
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>>173577048
9S puts an emphasis that he never could tell her before it was too late.

I think Toobs is not the kind to ask questions
>Toobs go kills Nines
>Ok
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>>173576972
Really? I cant find it in MPC-HC at all
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>>173577276
She's very obedient and focused on the job. Her emotional distance to 9S is mostly for show, because she doesn't want to get attached, but the part about her always focusing on getting the job done seems to be part of the true 2B as well.

>>173577296
I remember 9S saying that at the start of Route C, I'm more or less wondering if she knows otherwise.

Also, she does not seem to ask questions, yeah. At least in the YoRHa deserters sidequest 9S is the one with actual concerns about killing fellow units and who starts asking questions. However, after we encounter A2 and are told to execute her, she also says 9S' curiosity is admirable (in a way.)
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>>173577481
That's video software, anon. Foobar2k has it, for example.
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Does anyone have the English titles for the bonus hacking music?
They aren't on the English track list page.
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>downloading the zip
>mega crashes because google ran out of memory

How do I stop this from happening?
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How the fuck do I get past this? I keep falling off.
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>>173577818
Cheers, anon
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>>173578764
Dodge for speed, jump, dodge in midair.
You might have to double jump, I can't remember.
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So do 9S, 2B, and A2 have their own themes in the ost?
I'm bad with that kind of stuff.
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>>173578874
Oh fuck, thanks dude
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>>173578341
The titles are the same as the non-hacking versions but with "- Ding" at the end.
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>>173553737
Its like MGR perfect riposte but without pressing attack.

Just flick to the enemy right before getting hit, the timing is not the red eyes but more like parry in Dork A, its right before the attack connects
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>>173578921
I can't read ching chong. How do I tell which is which?
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>>173578915
No.
Unless you cout A2 and 2B fight themes
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>>173578764
Run, double jump, glide might as well use the pod throw but its redundant
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>>173578714
There's a mirror on Google Drive, which doesn't use the dumb download mechanism MEGA uses, that should work for you:

https://twitter.com/2b_butt/status/851255119211614210

Unless by "memory" you mean space, in which case you just need to make room for 3Gigs of lewds.
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>>173579463
>Unless by "memory" you mean space
Nah, it's an issue with chrome. I've never run into that problem before.
I'll take a rain check on the Drive. The Mega's at 55% which is higher than it got before.
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>>173579585
Hope it works. There's some fuckery with MEGA in my experience, but I'm not aware of hosters that serve files at that size for free besides Google Drive, so we're gonna have to put up with those.
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Anyone have problem with unreadable text when goes to hacking screen? PS4 with japanesee ver using eng. text
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>>173579737
It just happened again.
Thanks for the link to Drive.
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>>173579810
Seems to be a known issue with the current version on PS4: https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/6445ng/psa_useu_104_appears_to_have_the_broken_english/
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The best piece of music in the game or even the series is the second part of Alien Manifestation after the vocals
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>>173581018
End of the Unknown is objectively the single best piece of music in any Taro game.
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Question to those deeper into Japanese than me: I've seen the fan translations by Rekka on nier2.com refer to areas full of machines as "infested" some times. I'm aware that the Japanese original also calls them "bio-machines", but does it actually refer to an infestation of them too or is that just fairly liberal word choice by Rekka?
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>>173581018
>>173581232
Copied city is better.
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So I just got a ps4 and Nier Automata. Why are the menu and system selections all unintelligible? It looks like giberish.
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>>173579935
>>173581814
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>>173581814
The truth will be revealed in time.
It's part of the Taro experience.
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>>173581018
actually it's Song of the Ancients / Fate
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>>173581924
So it's part of the game? Because I need that inverted camera, man.
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>>173582030
Nah I'm just messing with you.
Post a screenshot. I've never seen that before.
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>>173476949
what, there are tons of save points in the tower.
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>>173582025
Are those the vocals from Nier's vilage?
I saw the start of a LP and this sounds really similar.
Fuck that guy for speeding up the gameplay, I was listening to that.
Why I never watched more than one episode.
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>>173581814
Check out the link in this post >>173579935 it's a recent problem brought on by the latest patch
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>>173582260
It's the version of the song that plays when you fight DevPop.
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>>173519313
oc
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>>173563045
>>173561769
>>173561102
>>173560765
>>173560372
>>173560006
>>173559838
>>173559681
>STRIPPED SCREW
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>>173582162
Believe it or not it's corrected itself. I don't know ehat happened before but it all looked like giberish chatacters before. I reloaded the game and it seems to have straightened itself out. But we'll see.
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>>173582703
Why wouldn't you take your pads out before you do a clip like this?
That's fucking disgusting
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>>173582776
Because its a white material digging into your shit? Any blood would instantly show.
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If you kill Emil in his home, does he stop selling stuff until chapter select?
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>>173582703
Youre gonna have to post sauce nigga
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>>173582703
her costumes build quality is amazing
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>>173582703
Source
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Whats the story quality of DoD3 vs Nier and Automata? How big is the difference in playing it versus watching the cutscenes?
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>>173583426
>>173583694
No idea
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>>173582703
>BUSTED NUT
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>>173583694
>>173583426
>>173583769
From lurking old threads, it's some cosplayer called meryl sama
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>>173583995
THICC
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So has SE/Platinum made any comments on what the DLC will be?
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>>173582776
It's to make her box look puffier
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Pick one
Weight of the World by ____:
>Emi Evans
>J'Nique Nicole
>Marina Kawano
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>>173585164
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>>173585003
All of them
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>>173515040
Me too anon. I'd like to go on a fun hacking adventure, make fun of fujos at the bunker, meet crazy robots and other stuff.
Tho I don't have any idea how that'd go besides the must become gods or Emil route. I'm over 20, a bit too old.
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