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/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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>Pulled the plug:
>>173252396

>Regulation 1.32
https://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/251480614867081771

>Dark Souls III Design Works
https://mega.nz/#!eN0mESTD!j8xyZY5h9huOuiRmSYbzTkv9la8qCaSjpDqJGAiL8k0

>Ringed City Item Checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City Pre-launch Stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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MOMMY ROSARIA
I LOVE HER!
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First for co-op matches and brawls don't exist.
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>its a host grabs your summon sign from the Spear of the Church fight and expects you to fight Midir epsiode
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I haven't been paying attantion to the last patches, are pure faith builds at least somewhat viable in pvp?
Also what's a good weapon for pure faith? Wolnir's? Ariandel's Rose?
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>>173271536
Bringing back this stupid crown was one of the dumber things memezaki did for this game. DS2 was perfectly fine without it. There was no reason to implement the magic damage rings either, especially not two of them plus the clutch rings.
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>>173271954
>ganking Spears
Scum.
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Raw Drakeblood Greatsword buffed with DMB.

That is all.
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>>173270743

They should also make mound makers signs white instead of purple to give some risk to summoning random phantoms, because who the fuck is going to summon a purple ever?

I mean lets be honest there's a lot of shit From SHOULD have done, but WILL NEVER do. Feels fucking bad.

>>173271558

:D

If it helps at all, I too love the mace with a passion. This is just the first time in the whole game's existence that Great Mace is actually viable and I've wanted to use it for the longest time, also I love perseverance though. I mean along the lines of what you said, what do you do if someone perseverances? You get the fuck away until it's over. Which makes it extremely good to get people off your ass, and with an offhand simple caestus you can basically perseverance forever. This, on top of the poise being way better than a normal hammer.

Hammerbros, though :D
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>>173271954
>act all compliant
>get in the bossfight
>bsc or just dodge around and wase his time, depending on mood
standard procedure, anon
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>>173271954
>not good enough to fight Midir
Ahh a re run I've seen this one many times.
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>>173271990
I'd say get the minimum strength for the Crucifix of the Mad King imo, at 60 faith the Dark Blade buff is batshit crazy on it. Use Yorkshas for that and Canvas for other miracles.
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What, still here?
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Im not sure what happened with my Tears of Denial there
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pcfcbf
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>>173272039
how does one be a good host for spears?

not that guy but i've heard a lot about the problems of too many spears, not enough hosts. i like the fight and want to help. should i do it alone? with 1 phantom? with X phantoms? you get buffs so what is the best way to do the fight to make it fun?

>>173272067

post stats/AR
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shit, I got flattened
resummoning
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>>173272129
I'm not going to bother fucking fighting Midir if the host summoned two other phantoms. Its a waste of time.
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>>173272228
PC FC WHEN
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Do Lothric Knight Banner and Sunlight Straight Sword also affect spells or just your weapons?
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>>173272159
I just prefer weapons with constant damage, not relying on buffs solely. Is there something like that for faith, or only infusions?
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WHERE IS THE PC FC
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What if lautric had a gun
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>>173272301
>>173272351
I'M CALLING MY HOST BF
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Hand it over. That thing. Your weaponfu.
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>>173272307
banner affects spells i think. knives and bombs too.
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>>173272291
You never implied he had more phantoms?

Also the alternative of ganking the Spear fight is scum level.
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>>173272351
Dead hopefully
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>>173272171
>muffled jingle bells in the distance
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>>173272307
the lothric war banner buff does affect spells for some reason (or, at least miracles). the SSS doesn't affect spells as far as I know.
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>>173272391
No
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>>173272273
and then I got killed by the cathedral knight
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>>173272409
If he drags Spear summons to Midir do you really think he's the kind of person to not grab up to three phantoms? Come on now.
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>>173272229
>322 Physical
>142 Magic
>142 Lightning
>60 FTH Yorshka's chime DMB is somewhere around 230 extra magic AR
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>>173272291
>not knowing the glorious feeling of going in with the host and two other phantoms and coming out with only you and the host left alive
It's rare, but it's nice.

I actually like the health boost
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>>173272391
Literally killed you with it, Uncle.
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>>173272391
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>>173272391
fuck that guy
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Butt
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>>173272481
>>173272307
i say just miracles because I haven't tested it with sorceries and pyromancy, by the way, though I'm sure someone else has
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>>173272521
Eh true I would just watch the mayhem begin, how many phantoms would die within the first attack or first aoe attack.
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>>173272391

I'll bash ur fukin hed in m8 i swear on me mum
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>>173272391
Uncle Gael is bring me it soon.
;_;
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>you can only create 10 character slots
fuck you Fromsoft, why can't I do what I want with my hard drive space?
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>>173272549

What did it used to be before the Raw buff? Also how does raw DS axe look before-and-after now as well? I mean they've always been good with DMB/LB I'm just wondering how much they've actually changed from before, like just a little insignificant boost or a lot?
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>>173272039
>not ganking spears
lmao
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Is there anyway to make the Lightning Arrow miracle not pure shit?
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>>173272391
no way
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>>173272890
is this a joke?
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>2.8k damage Sunlight Spears on Oceiros with Rose of Ariandel and Lothric War Banner buff
Neat
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>>173272391
*procs freeze* back the fuck off?!?!
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>>173272852
>not ganking spear gankers with boss invasions
WEW
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>>173272998
Thanks for the help, anons. I spent most of that fight just trying to not die and waste your time.
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>>173272815
DaS probably had that because consoles
And then they never changed it because From
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>>173272830
Physical AR was 222 pre-patch with raw, going up 100 is a massive boost.
DSA went up like 10ish physical, no change to lightning.
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Is it just me or are there less gank squads when invading than 5 months ago?

I recall that in 3 out of 4 and maybe even 4 out of 5 invasion I ran up to a team of at least three people. But now I overwhelmingly encounter 1 or 2 people (roughly 70% of total invasions).
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how do you boss invade?
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>dodge all day until you win
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>>173272815
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous that we're still limited to 10 when everyone has an HD that's something like 500gb minimum.

Way better than DeS though, IIRC you could make like 5 characters.
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>>173273062
No problem. I like to watch bosses weak to lightning produce big numbers
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>>173272940
poor guy forgot to put on the wolf ring to make up for his fashion
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>>173273060
>invader enters boss room
>implying I don't instacurse them immediately
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>>173272273
where you at
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>>173273164
You could make fucking four.
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The Brigand Twindaggers are a bad wea-
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>>173273062
>>173273165
Now I just have to beat Wolnir and I can get a real dragon head.
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>>173271727
>I made it on there
Feels nice.

In another question, does anyone have fashion with parts of kirks set, particularly his helm or chest?
Including his shield, if you can
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>>173272691
Is this any good one-handed? I want a paladin-esque build with a mace and a shield, but the regular mace is too short sometimes.
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>>173273119
You don't.
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Does anyone have that gif of yasuhiro kitao's wife acting out a parry and riposte?
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>>173273104
I encounter a lot more than before, especially in the DLC, the host will just keep summoning as soon as I appear and nowhere near to stop them.

It's a fun kind of hell.
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Well Dancer was fun to fight, thanks for coming.

On my way to the Cursewood boss but I won't be there for a while.
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>>173273250
if you're going to use ultras you pretty much always 2h
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>>173273226
when has anybody ever said that?
Those things are cancer to deal with on any weapon greatsword or lower in speed
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Explain to me the effects of the Gnaw spells? It seems to work like Dark Souls 1 bleed mechanic as I see it, dancer just melted as I was trying it out
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Faith/dex build using damaging miracles for help and dragonslayer swordspear makes any sense?
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>>173273320
I'll put my sign on Undead Settlement bonfire
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>>173271727
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Should I do it?

I've never played any of these games before, btw.
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>>173272391
>Sure, what rings you got, first.
Or butcher knife, if we're counting all the games
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>>173273360
It just does some dark damage and applies bleed build up
Bleed build up doesnt scale with luck, supposedly, or the effects are so small it doesnt matter at all
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>>173273424
Yes.
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>>173273227
what did you end up naming her?
>>173273424
sure, but you might get it on sale for way less
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>>173273424
gud gaem shud enjoi
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>>173273360
>Explain to me the effects of the Gnaw spells

They inflict bleed buildup.

>It seems to work like Dark Souls 1 bleed mechanic as I see it

Yeah, because it's bleed.
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>>173273424
I just got into this series with Dark Souls 1 a couple years ago and I highly recommend it and Dark Souls 3, pretty fun stuff. Never played 2.
>>173273486
Saphira after that dragon from Eragon.
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>>173273371
not much since it's a 27/40 weapon
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PC FC @ High Wall

pass is dsg

Signs down on the overhead wood planks
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>>173273464
does the bleed scale with faith? or just flat dark damage?
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>>173273424
Get it on sale, but yes.
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>>173272391

From my cold hollowed hands
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>>173273521
those books were the best
>the last two books were supposed to be one but it got way too big
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Who is the mother to the forlorns?
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I GIVE UP

I LOST

EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF CONTENT IN ALL OTHER GAMES HAVE BEEN NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS PIEC EOF SHIT FUCKING DRAGON

I

CAN

NOT

DEFEAT

MIDIR


Time to uninstall boys. I failed.

Maybe it's time to finally hang up that noose since I can't even manage to press a sequence of buttons correctly.
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>>173273318
Most of my invasions are either Arch-Dragon Peak or Irithyll on level 130.

Now I'm gonna try out DLC to test my luck.
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>>173273551
>27/40 weapon
>requires 22 faith
man, that kind of sucks
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>>173273645
Velka most likely.
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>>173273575
Bleed doesnt scale with anything but its pretty big build up. Too slow to hit people really, but its great against bosses. The dark damage scales with things that can cast miracles and do dark damage well, like the Sunless Talisman.
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>>173273470
>>173273486
>>173273510
>>173273521
>>173273583

Can I play a *Wizard* though? Is Souls magic good?

Because I always play a fucking WIZARD.
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>>173273521
Eragon fucking sucks
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What do you guys spend souls on when you have a shitload and can't/don't want to level up? Talking about DaS3 here.
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>>173273716
If you want to be bored out of your skull, go ahead.
btw ds3 is much easier to get into, I would play that first then go back to ds1
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>>173273675
dude just lend me your game disc and ill do it for you after school tomorrow
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>>173273554

Will Aleksandra be there?
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>>173273618
I just started using this for the first time and good god that moveset
I can't believe this shit didn't make it
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>>173273716
very good in PvE, hard to play in PvP
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>>173273761
Repair Powder.
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ive got a question for the CE wizards.

ive seen you guys put on the harald head effect, is there an ID for it?

anyone mind sharing?
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>final DLC has us survive several impossible falls thanks to Gaels magical protection spells and pomfing into several piles of deep ash
>we manage to beat the final boss of Dark souls - Gravity
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>>173273037
>Poe's law
No, no. it wasn't extreme, but if you think about it, there's a lot of BB history that isn't really delved into beyond Gehrman/the first hunters.
It's very possible that it could have been a very gentle place, and the whole setting is rather cold and dark. It's kinda funny to think about a couple of guys fucking up a world painted specifically for the purpose of nonviolence for everyone with the start of blood transfusion/old one research in the pursuit of understanding/curing.
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>>173273675
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>>173273675
>Getting hit by the firebreath

What's it like when you thought the only thing you were good at is video games but even that turned out to be a lie?
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>>173273675
Ahh, dragon slaying. Knighthood's highest calling…
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>>173273736
I read it when I was like 11 so I honestly can't remember how bad it was, though I do recall the ending being lame.
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>>173272391
You'll never have my weaponfu

and neither will I :(((((((((((
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>>173273521
>>173273621
>tfw Eragon and the elf girl never got together
>tfw the series probably wont get a continuation, and even if it did I might not enjoy it anymore
People say it was a LoTR ripoff, but even if it was, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Dealing with the big baddie was maybe cheesey, but fitting.
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>>173273805
Ain't nobody here yet.
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>>173273806

Its obvious a shitter killed Miyazaki several times on his playthrough of his own game.

That sword carried me through the 4 kings through 2 game cycles.
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>>173272391
Bite me, old man
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>>173273394
Ah shoot, sorry, didn't notice it.

At cursewood, PC, pass dsg.

Let's kill this ugly fuck.
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>>173273716
Sorcery is good. Fun? Hardly. You're basically playing a fighting game where you're the only guy with a gun. IMHO pure pyromancer is funner than any other caster. If you want lots of flashy magicks you'll like ds2 more.
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>>173273685
18fth*
make something like 39/14/30/18/27/40/-/25/-
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>>173273902
He beats the final boss by giving him bad feels and making him an hero.
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>>173274053
summon sign behind the door you need to open, didn't open it yet in my session so I went to the stairs leading to the boss
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>>173272391
You will have to take it from my cold hands, old man.
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>>173273103
>DSA when up like 10ish

Dude what the fuck is that shit? That's nothing.
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>>173274058
>IMHO pure pyromancer is funner than any other caster
>funner
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>>173274058
>You're basically playing a fighting game where you're the only guy with a gun.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>173274128
Don't forget Galbatorix turning into an actual nuclear missle.
And how they blocked the fallout with a dome of rocks.
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I'm going to make a black samurai.
Should I Use any magic/pyro/miracles if so what?
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>>173274128
So Mass Effect 1?
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>>173274324
It has useful spells for all situations and is not varieties of a somewhat homing slow, blue projectile
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>>173272391

Never.
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>>173274368
Spook
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>>173274128
So Fallout New Vegas?
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>>173273250
>>173273331

I mean you can technically do whatever you want, and it does get the poise even while 1 handed. But yeah, generally speaking 2 handed is better.

Honestly it's not that bad 1 handed, you know what just for you I'll test out a similar build right now just for funsies. If it helps, it costs less stamina to do 1 handed attacks so at 32 END and ring of favor you can do 5 swings in a row with the great mace. What shield do you plan on using? Like, a parry shield or a WA shield? Or just something used entirely for blocking like a greatshield?
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>>173274128
So, like DS1 reversed?
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PC FC at High Wall

pass is dsg

put your signs on the overhead walkway
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>>173273360
I killed demon prince with it at sl 20. Is that enough of an explanation?
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Is the Irithyll Straight Sword ever worth upgrading? I want to try out some frostbite on my "paladin" esque character but I'm more dex-centric than STR
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>>173274542
Lanius or Oliver don't an hero though.
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>>173273716
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/166069
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>>173274694
>I want to try out some frostbite
VORDT'S
GREAT
HAMMER
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>>173272391
Personally, I prefer to use the MLGS buffed with other MLGSs.
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>>173274827
Youre getting out of control Zullie
This is the craft of a madman
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>>173274827
beautiful
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>>173273885
That's so cruel Anon.
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>>173274713
Well in one of those games there's the PC guy you can convince to kill himself, I don't remember.
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>still no way to change our names without using 3rd party software

Seriously, for what fucking purpose?
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>Invasion puts you a mile away from the invader with no idea where they are and no way to find them

Invasion factions were a fucking mistake
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>>173275010
>they will ban you for changing your name with CE
Why From?
>>173275106
watch for health bars and check all the typical places in the area
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>>173273230
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>>173274825
Yeah, I got frostbitten in two hits by that but as mentioned, I don't have strength at the moment and i'm more interested in DEX this time around, I mostly go str/quality so time for a change!
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Isn't there a shortcut you can do at COTD using Spook?
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>>173275224
Kirk's helm and kirk's chest go well with kirk's gloves and kirk's pants. Kirk's shield goes well with kirk's sword.
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>>173274653
>somebody is using a white summon sign
but why?
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>>173275262
Yeah drop down at the giant.
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>>173273230
You ever try combining Lorian's crown with the thorn set?
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>>173275352
Thanks.
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>>173273871
noone? I just want to be spooky...
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>>173272391

The stats to use it don't even exist in your game man.
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You're sitting at home when you hear a knocking at your door. When you answer it its this handsome son of a bitch and he tells you that he wants you to be in charge of dark souls 4. How would you direct it?
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>>173275224
For the chest:
Gundyr Helmet or Black Knight
Thorn chest
Drakeblood gauntlets
Lorian's legs or black knight
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>>173273250
>>173274619

Doing it. Wish me luck, anon.
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I can't beat Pontiff.
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>>173273230
Do a Pinhead build, or whatever that lamented configuration dude was called
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I can't afford the DLCs. Knowing that, what could I offer someone in exchange for dlc stuff? I'd like the onyx blade and the follower sabre as well as milwood set but I'm unsure what I could offer in return. I'm currently at the cathedral of the deep so not many boss weapons available to trade yet but if that's your thing I can try and speedrun it a bit to get whatever it is you want.

PC btw.
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>>173271727
>tfw you've thrown your fashion at collage-anon like 5 times and STILL not a single one is in there
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>>173275537
Just CE you cheater
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>>173274874
I refuse to be contained.
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>>173273885
Please tell me to kill myself
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>>173273226

What if you don't have DMB on it, though?
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>>173275537
Offer me some succor
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>>173275585
Stop leaving the HUD on or cropping it or forgetting to link the post then.
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>>173275624
You're not allowed to kill yourself.
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Time for sages.

PC, pass is dsg. Everyone welcome.

I'm going to do no fucking damage with these rapiers.
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>>173275624
Just do it.
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>>173272507
oh, i miss you so much...
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>>173275318
Hysterical
>>173275468
Many thanks, will try that out after I farm hit untended graves.
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>>173275717
Onionbro here, I'm on my way
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>>173275465
Immediately fire him and put Tanimura in charge.
Cut magic completely and focus solely on melee.
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>>173275591
I haven't really looked into it but I'd much rather not risk a ban knowing how much I'm used to fucking up.

>>173275645
I shall partake in the succ
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>>173275664
are they supposed to be left uncropped?
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>>173275597
Can undead grow cancer? You might be the first to
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>>173275518
>so based he travelled in another dimension
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>>173275717
wait, is the FC in that little hallway before the page to the crystal sage?
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>>173275519
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>173275371
I haven't, sounds cool though. Haven't bought the crown this character, will try it.
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>memespam gael's combo in the FC
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>>173275842
>Rules
>no cropping

Gee, I don't know anon, you tell me
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>>173275917

Ban him.
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>>173275842
I mean it explicitly says in the rules not to crop it so yeah probably
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PvP Anons, does any of you know if Heysel Pick combos into Old Moonlight? I know it combos into Soul Greatsword. I doubt it does, but it's worth asking I guess.
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>>173275906
Naw, I'm doing a boss rush.

FC's are at the high wall usually, aren't they?
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How far in to the game can I rely on using the Raw astora sword? I'm not terribad but neither am I a god, kept a long break and just cleared the DLC as well but going for a new character now, won't be focusing on STR/DEX early on so hence the question
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>>173275862
I am bathed in moonlight.
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>>173275989
i didn't fucking know there were rules, i just cropped multiple screenshots to paste together so i wouldn't shit up the image limit

excuse me for being considerate to other anons
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PC FC @ High Wall of Stupid Knights and shit

pass is dsg

Activity is picking up so might suicide at some point and resummon everyone un-embered
>>173275906
No that guy's just looking for help.
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Been a while since i've played
Whats the meta SL?
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was there any word said by miyazaki or from about their future projects ?
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>>173275465
Introduce a microtransaction system where you have to pay to revive at the bonfire. At the start you get 20 free revives.

Sell weapon and armor skins (including Ledo's armor, wanderer set and silver knight weapons) in an online shop.

Introduce a dynamic quest system like Skyrim.

Bribe critics to get me 10/10 GOTY before it even releases.
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>>173276079
Zullie has ascended
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>>173276104
>image has rules
>want to take part in
>can't even read the rules that are in the OP image and assumes how it works

Excuse me for expecting people to learn things by themselves
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>>173275913
Pinhead, from Hellraiser. Never seen the movie?
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>>173276079
Is this what Logan saw? Before he went mad?
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>>173276218
well excuse me for being retarded and illiterate
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>>173276154
120 SL
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>>173276303
excuse me for being rude and annoying
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>>173275465
Would put less convolutions and more poise.
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>>173274368
>>173274521

How'd I do, family?
Figure I'll go grab the Uchi as soon as possible for early game weeabooness.
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Can any weapon compare to raw dragonslayer axe?
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>>173276337
you're excused
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Crystal Hail any good or should I just take the Sages Soul and spend it on levelling?

trying a sorcery build
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Just a question, since apparently I'm out of the loop.
There's 3 directors for this game, right? In the credits, they had Hidetaka Miyazaki, Isamu Okano, and Yui Tanimura all as directors.
Did Tanimura and Okano do literally nothing with the game, or are people just making jokes I'm not in on? Because the only person I ever see people talk about/insult is Miyazaki.
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>>173275508
>>173273250

Initial testing is actually pretty positive (SL50 +6). Your 1H attacks are this long range attack in a straight line in front of you, so you don't get the large horizontal sweep but you can really get a lot of reach (sort of like a spear) out in front of you. The trick to it I've found is using the high stability medium shield to get up in people's faces, stay right on top of them, so generally they don't know when you're going to attack.

I think especially if you're willing to 2 hand it when you're outnumbered to get ganks off your dick, it can work quite well with a shield.
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>>173273230
Here's my Corvian Knight cosplay using Kirk's chest.
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>>173275465
more bare feet and more unexplained dragon crossbreeds
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>>173276495
It's not, but not getting it (at least so you can see how bad it is) is still dumb.
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>>173276435
>Not Tyronin
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>>173276435
yeah another dude black people lmao character

fresh and humorous post friend
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>no dedicated armor slot for capes
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So is the next game going to take place in Londor then?
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Fucking Greirat. I told Patches where he went before I fought Pontiff. Why the fuck did he die this time again?
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>>173276618
Fuck, that's good too.
>>173276663
Calm down
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>>173276695
worst feel
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Nth for TRC pyromancies are actually great.
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>>173276079
I feel like this should be Zullie's picture in the collage.
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>>173276770
if you dipped into irithyll dungeon before beating pontiff, then you fucked up
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>>173271727
I hope the sword fits
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>>173271727
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PSA: If you aren't invading at level 60 or below you're doing it wrong
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anyone on ps4 need help with anything?
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>>173276831

I didn't even go to mansion bonfire
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>>173276435
"lol I made a nigger guys! I'm cool right? one of you?!"

also
>>173276618
fuckin this
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>>173275784
Sorry onionbro, had to do the boss, got invaded and didn't feel like getting invaded again.
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>>173276901

SL70 +8 is fine but it's basically the threshold of where you start bleeding into the super cancer of seeds like half the time. I love SL50 +6.
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>>173275465
Make it open world. More than just one hub, and make the hubs more like lived in towns.~

More NPC questlines.

Give more emphasis to Covenants. Make them sort of feel like guilds.
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>tfw you try to let the feast begin but the preacher won't partake

PC FC @ High Wall of Lothric just for you poorfags

pass is dsg

Signs on the rafters, we're getting busy so please use the upper area when we have enough people to
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Why is drangleic and lothric so fucking shit compared to anor londo when it comes to castles?
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>>173271954
Okay, so that is a thing. I thought it was weird when it happened.
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>>173276989
>"lol I made a nigger guys! I'm cool right? one of you?!"
that's OUR word you filthy racist!
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>>173276526
Shit I didn't bother to check my (you)s.
Was thinking of ethereal oak shield to stack up on regens, but that one has WA instead of parrying. In the case of a mace, both great and regular, this might be alright because both have the poise WA. It sounds like it's versatile enough, though also pretty heavy for my current vit. Thanks for testing!
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I CAN'T BEAT PONTIFF SULIVAN
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>>173271727
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anyone know how you can make cycleOccurrenceSpEffectId fire off a spell instead of an effect?
Like say fire off a lightning spear or some shit, I can only get it to work with effects like bleed or weapon buffs.
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>>173277156
Aesthetic or gameplay wise? I thought Lothric town/castle looked great.
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Fucking hell this pisses me off. This is my 5th character I've failed to save him.
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>>173277104
I personally do SL35 +4. Perfect level to get 27 vigor and use raw drakeblood effectively
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>>173275465
Story deals with the return of the dragons. The PC starts the game as a non-undead human but is given the ability to resurrect by a mysterious halfdragon girl (not priscilla) who acts as the level-up waifu of the game. The player must choose to side with the dragons, gods, or neither and the last third of the game is very different depending on the path chosen with some levels being unique to those paths until the game is cleared
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>>173272391
Lucatiel lives on through me, You can't have her
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>>173276518
>he doesnt know
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>>173276018
I beat the game with a +9 raw astora
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>>173276018
I've beaten ng+ with raw ass +4 but that was before the nerf. Raw broadsword is basically the same damage as old raw ass though
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The criteria for meeting Patches in the COTD are so fucking obtuse, I'm fairly certain most players went up to the rafters before rolling past the giant sitting in sludge and activating the elevator near the boss.
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>>173276925
Yeah i could use help transferring items
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>>173277234
You can't directly, not really.
What you can do though is make it cycle a SpEffect onto the player that generates a bullet, like 1420010, then change what bullet that spawns.
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>>173277562
where you wanna meet
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>>173277557
Yup took me like 5 or 6 characters before i ever saw the cut scene
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>redditors complaining about the doors, crucifix and pgs
why
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>>173277557
No, first time i saw those giants i stayed the fuck away from them for as long as i could. I looked for several ways to try and avoid getting too close at all cost.
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Just bought DS3, and had been playing it pirated until I beat Abyss Watchers. Is there a way to transfer the save from the cracked version into the Steam version? The cracked version I had was 1.03 by xatab, with no DLC, and now I have Season Pass and the newest version.

I tried the method of going to the first bonfire, exiting to title screen, and replacing the Steam save with the previous one, among other methods, and it didn't work. At most I managed to load a save that was completely random, probably an effect of the game reading the save wrong.

Was thinking of downloading an updated cracked version and trying my save there, saving again if it worked, and transferring to the Steam version, though I can't find very good torrents.

Is there really no hope left and I should just replay this little piece of the game and not be a scrub?
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>>173277681
Highwall. Let me back up my save and ill be right there

Pass
dsg
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PC FC @ High Wall of Lothric host here

Pass is dsg

Do we want to change to FFA, there's a butt-ton of signs now.
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>>173277272

Lothric does look much better compared to the shitpile drangleic is.
But it's literally a footsoldier infested ant nest with guys hanging along the balcony around every corner, every 5 yards there is something standing in the way to make the place seem bigger.
Shit doesn't make sense, it's almost worthy of a comic.

Anor Londo still has those godly rays, giant soldiers, 3 man invasion, harder part with archers and demons, brosmith, best boss, black knights at the living quarters, etc.
However, sneaking along the ceiling with holy ninjas everywhere was the only shitty part.
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>>173276779
Aw damn, I should've made that spell.
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>>173277795
just play it again if you're any good it's like 4 hours tops
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So...Boulder fucking destroys the demon boss. Thought this was supposed to be hard for pyro builds.
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>>173271727
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>>173277285

I like SL50 +6 the best, mostly because doing aldrich faithful invasions is my favorite thing to do in the whole game and that's the lowest level you can effectively do that at.
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>>173277681
I need to give items from 2 characters then transfer them to the 3rd one.
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>>173277650
aight, thanks zullie
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>>173277872
you mean the balance beams with the painting guardians? that shit is so simple
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I think i found my favorite part of the Ring City DLC, being Summoned by the Spears of the Church and becoming the Boss Fight. Ritual Spear Fragment is so much fun to use to separate the host from their friends. killing the summons and the host with an Astoras greatsword.
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>>173277729
>doors

Very easy to counter if you're willing to swap weapons. Some weapons have zero chance against doors while others can't lose.
They hate admitting that and swapping weapons.

>cruxifix
Just a high damage halberd. Halberds are annoying to fight against, splitleaf is kind of annoying as well. It's better to just cheese them since they always keep running with their r1 stagger waiting to confirm hits for their combos

>pgs
Got nerfed
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Alright, step one complete. Got Uchi.
What are some other good weeb weapons to pick up as played?
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>They still haven't fixed the weapon icon for Lorian's Greatsword
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Did pikes get HA or am I misremembering?
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>>173278105
Black blade of course.
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>>173277872
I'd say Lothric is actually bigger than Anor Londo: I feel like it had way more little side passages and off shoots (in the High Wall at least, if not Castle) than Anor Londo, which was fairly straight forward. I'm also more inclined to like Lothric because I prefer the big European castle aesthetic over Anor Londo's more cathedral, high fantasy feel.
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>>173278016
about to put my sign down
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Where do you think she is?
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>>173278014
Actually making a character for that as we speak. No matter what time I try doing aldrich invasions its instant.
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>>173278117
>they still haven't fixed the double text in that one description
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>>173277729
never realized how THICC the POTUS was
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give me some fun builds to try, /dsg/.
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>>173271727
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Can I get some tips for a pyro build?

I'm at Cathedral of the Deep using a +2 raw astora sword. i've got fireball, soul arrow, and heavy soul arrow. great swamp ring and sage ring. I sent the sorcerer to Firelink.

Should I do Faron Keep/whatever is after Abyss Watchers, before the Cathedral?

Whichever gets me more pyromancies.

also my int/fai are 16/16
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>beat gael, finished dlc
Wait...that's it?
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>>173278050
tfw too bad to join the spears because Im garbage and cant beat midir
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So I never played Dark Souls before but I know how the leveling system works, more or less.

Can you just keep leveling one random stat as your primary choice? Even things that aren't directly offense related, like Endurance or Attunement or whatever? Is there a benefit for doing so or is it just a shitty build?
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>>173278373
edgy
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>>173277650

YOU WERE AT MY SIDE, ALL ALONG
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>>173276798
>>173276079
Yes, it should.
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>>173271727
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>>173278474
Do you really think having a million stamina without any health or damage isn't a terrible idea?
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>>173273675
>Blasted
>>
>Equip Steel Protection ring
>Still dying in about the same number of hits in PvP
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>>173278474
primary stats like vigor ,strength, dexterity, intelligence are priority over things like endurance/vit/luck
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>>173278036


I'm talking about the design.
You have to walk along a very thin wall towards the church.
At first i never walked up there because from my experience, anything that isn't flat is slippery as fuck and will slide you to the abyss untill you trial and error and it proves otherwise.

Then, when you walk inside, and climb up the ladder, guardians are already sitting on the beams all this time waiting for you.
They can even make retarded jump attacks into backstabs if you run past them so you're forced to kill these fuckers.

Also, you can't even jump between gwynevere's tits.

>>173278183

I'm fine with that
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>>173278571
because it only has a 5% benefit or something in pvp
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>>173278571
>he doesn't know
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>>173278206
in my porn folder getting eaten out by a mimic
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Have the buffs to bleed/poison infusions made them actually worth using? I'd just started what was going to be a hollow weapon + carthus rouge bleed build when the pre-TRC patch completely killed the idea. Thinking of going dex/luck and using blood infused crow talons or sellsword twinblades.

Also, I hear that the +luck boost from being hollow and using a hollow weapon doesn't actually affect bleed chance?
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>>173278186
Cant drop more than 30 at once or i get message that older dropped items get erased.
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>>173278405
Just realized Gael is Guts. This is perfect
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>can't sort items in das3

My menuing is suffering.
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>>173278342
Blackflame pyros and obsidian blade only.
Bonus points for killing Midir with this setup.
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Can someone help me with friede? I just want to get the splitleaf greatsword and the doors as early as I can.

>PC
pass is dsg
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>>173277274
How? Saving him is extremely easy. Are you still not reading the wiki after 5 playthroughs of not being able to save him or what?
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So who else uses xcox here? I only know of one other Dsg anon that even has an xbox
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>>173271727
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>>173277878
>not turning all possible boss souls into spells on spell-casting characters
>ever
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>>173277274
Literally how the hell can you fail that if you know what the conditions are? I've done it with Patches and with Siegward numerous times, you just have to not walk into Irithyll Dungeon.
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>>173278398
The only pyromancy you get from the farron keep swamp is Iron Flesh, hardly useful outside of gimmicks.
You do get two scrolls to give to the sorcerer guy, with a few useful sorceries.
Cathedral is quicker and easier imo. The Deacons are also much easier than the Abyss Watchers. I'd advise you yo level up a bit before fighting them and proceeding further.
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>>173271727
and another one
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>>173277795
Yeah, replay the game.

>can't find torrents
You also can't read the OP, apparently.
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>>173278971
alright cool. Any weapons really related to pyromancy or just the glove+scrolls?
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>>173278542
>>173278601

Yeah but isn't that part of the fun? Of playing an RPG and being able to make weird and unique builds?
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setting up my miracle build was pain but lightning stake is pretty fun. So many dummies keep trying to trade with it lol.
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so what the fuck is the point of that shortcut hidden behind that chameleon puzzle?

What purpose does it even serve? it's LITERALLY right behind a shortcut back to a bonfire.

for a puzzle that required such a bizzare solution, I really expected something a bit better than a one way shortcut back to an area I already cleared earlier. (and which already has 2 different ways to approach it to begin with)
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>>173271727
last one for now
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>>173278830
Ready and waiting, senpai.
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>>173278235

Yup, it's great. Lots of fun, almost never seed, can actually fight ganks on my own usually. Sucks that the DLC2 is made for meta level, FUCK. THAT.

>>173276526
>>173277191

Honestly the more I've been playing it the more I actually like it better than just 2 handing it like I was before. You can really get in people's faces with the shield, and the range is incredible for roll catching people as they panic trying to get you off their dick. You really don't lose that much AR (at 32 str +6 it's a difference of like 34 AR 1H vs. 2H), and actually I suggest you use a WA shield (especially BK shield like me since the stability is so damn high). The perseverance on it is fucking crazy and very useful, like ACTUALLY i think it's legit more useful with a shield than without. It just lasts so long you can perseverance and then start getting in their face and you have a pretty long time to trade if they decide to attack. Very very useful when you run into other ultra weapon or greatsword users. Strangely enough, idk if I'm mistaken but it seems like even with just 22.81 poise right now I'm poising through 2H greatswords, it's fucking weird.

Don't bother with parrying, I'm doing upwards of 600 damage per 2-hit combo with this thing. People attack and it's either hitting the shield for no damage or I trade with them or roll catch them after they attack twice and roll, I'm perseverancing against ganks and ultra weapons. It's surprising the fuck out of me, and it looks sexy af. Using pale pine resin and gold pine bundles with it atm, using chain/havel's/favor/knight's rings with just the heavy great mace and BK shield at SL50 +6.

r8 me please :^)
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>>173277729
>the doors
my only issue with them is that if they "block" something durring one of their blockframe attacks it doesn't make the thud noise you usually hear when you hit a shield, which makes it hard to keep track of their stamina.

>crucifix
inferior to splitleaf

>pgs
what? paired (ultra) greatswords? It would be nice if their hitboxes matched their models but they aren't OP.

>that guy's hat
lol
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Okay /dsg/
Time for something new, come up with band names using words/phrases/memetics from the Souls Series.

I'll start with Master Logarius and the Screaming Skulls.

O&S - Simon & Garfunkel joke has written itself though
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Unlimited Zullie Works
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>>173279139
I have a feeling barely any of this fella is going to be in frame
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>>173279101
>playing an RPG and being able to make weird and unique builds?
oh anon I wish it were so true
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>>173272335
Not really, no
Any weapon that should have great faith scaling like Wolnir or Lothric's sword get C scaling at best, which gives you like +40 damage, and I can't think of a single lightning infused weapon that's particularly great, even at 60 faith, especially after the patch
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>>173279115
Are you talking about the path to the purging monument?
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>>173279115
There's a side plot thingy you missed.
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>>173278830
SL and NG cycle?
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>no message when I login saying that I'm penalized
>can't see signs ingame
>can't connect on undead match
>can't invade

what the fuck is going on
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>>173278801
You can. It's just shitty and the default sorting is good enough.
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>>173278186
At highwall waiting.
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>>173276526
>>173279150

Just look at how sexy this looks, man. Mmmphf.
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>>173278398
>raw astora sword
I have bad news
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>vaati makes at least 5.7k a month by making video game story videos

What's wrong with people
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>>173279101
Cranking the shit out of one useless stat isn't a "weird and unique build", just a stupid one.
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>>173278801
Just dump all the shit you don't use in the item box from time to time.
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>>173279238
>>173279257
hahaha disregard that i suck cocks. I thought it was a different area.
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>>173279216

Can you at least tell me that if you pump all your souls into Resistance or whatever you can walk through poison swamps forever without getting poisoned. That's at least possible right?
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>>173279301

How? I want to move armour like mimic head for easy access and rings like silver serpent.
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>>173279096
Not really, no. Raw ASS is the way to go atm.
You'll get some more pyromancies from the areas after Abyss Watchers.
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>>173278206
dead
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>>173279365
people are idiots
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Is there any reason to go over 40 dex
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>>173279365
>vaati makes at least 5.7k a month by recording himself reading item descriptions
ftfy
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>>173272391
NO you dropped it!
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>>173279394
for poison swamps use blooming purple moss clump
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>>173279308
sorry I'm trying to organize all this stuff, give me a minute
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>>173279365
funny thing is that he isn't even that good at it, he just has a good voice and made good choices in stealing ideas from others. his original theorymaking is shit
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>>173279235
>especially after the patch
Wait, didn't they buff infusions?
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Finally fucking made it to the Deacons.

PC, pass is dsg.

Join in for the boss rush!

Last boss for tonight, hopefully more fun bosses tomorrow.
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>>173279435
One thing is moving stuff around and another different thing is sorting stuff. Das3 can sort things depending on things like weight, name, etc, but you can't manually move them.
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>>173279358
whats the bad news
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>>173279583
they fucked up and made em worse on accident till next patch
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>>173279198
if it autocrops for the middle only, then probably not, but the animation puts your character model outside the center. i'd post another one, but there's already a similar one in the collage
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>>173279469
>tfw everyone making loadsa dosh off of idiots but you haven't come up with an idea to make money for yourself in the same way

fugg :::___DDD
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>>173279583
They fucked up their """buff""" and it lowered INT/FTH scaling for STR/DEX scaling.

Essentially, the magic, lightning, etc. numbers dropped significantly in favour of a slight physical damage increase, but this results into a lower overall AR.
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>>173279565
Easier and quicker to empty your equipment so you can just drop whatever is in there after picking it up.
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>>173279365
Stupid people who like hearing a failed english majors version of fanfic
Hopefully he'll go homeless or at the very least become a literal who now that dark souls is done
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>>173279365
>smart enough not to fall for these scams
>not good enough at scamming myself

Life is hard
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>>173279639
Well let's hope they actually fix it. IIRC the faith nerf in DS2 was supposed to be a decrease in casts with an increase in damage but they decreased both and never bothered to change it.
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>>173279597
in a second
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>>173272391
Are you sure? It's pretty bad...
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>>173279146
Thanks for the help!
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>>173279606
It got nerfed hard with the latest patch, the raw longsword is better than it now, and the raw broadsword is essentially the same AR as the pre-patch raw astora sword.
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>>173279717
I was, but you're going to have to tell me if I missed some stuff
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>>173278398
raw ass got nerfed and now has less AR than raw longsword, though even at +10 it's only like 5 AR or something and you'll have over 12 faith anyway if you're a pyro

>I sent the sorcerer to Firelink.
Yoel or Orbeck? If you enter the area after the abyss watchers, Yoel dies and his questline ends if you didn't draw out your true strength from him 5 times. If you kill too many bosses before giving Orbeck a scroll after sending him to firelink, he'll leave forever (you can find two scrolls in the lower swamp).

The boss in the area after abyss watchers gives you a pyro tome, there's a secondary area connected to it with two pyro tomes, but two of the three tomes are dark pyro tomes which your current npc can't use. You have to go further through the game to meet the NPC who can, which requires beating the boss in the cathedral.
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>>173279189
science has gone too far
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PC FC @ High Wall still going strong

pass is dsg

please use the upper area to fight, too!
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Did DSGA get buffed or something sometime since release? Much faster than I remember it being.
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>>173279824
My pleasure, bullying Friede is just too much fun.
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>>173279597
Helicopter greatswords are a bit overkill for deacons I guess
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>>173279473
No.
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>>173279597

Sign in front of the boss door I assume?

I'm bored and deacons are easy so I'll try to get summoned.
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>>173280041
>alternating full charged ultra stabs with somebody in her third phase
the way she ragdolls backwards gets me every time
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What's the best weapon to use for Midir on a strength build?
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>>173279473
50 gives max cast speed, and sharp infusion is goat. A 10/60 sharp longsword has as much onehanded AR as a 38/39 refined longsword. 20/60 has more AR than 40/40 for no additional investment, 26/60 sharp is the best way to set up a lot of weapons. On the longsword you really don't want to use refined unless you're going for 40/60 or something crazy like that.
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>>173280112
we killed it but I can summon you for mine, put your summon stone near the fog gate, password is 'dsg'
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>>173279597
>>173280112

I guess I'm too late? Fugg
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>>173278179
Oh damn, that looks pretty cool.
Maybe I should rush Carthusian before Cathedral in that case.
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>>173280192

Yhorms.
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>>173279832
no biggie i'll just grab one. thanks for the heads up!
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>>173280192
any ultra weapon 2handed

just do a running attack, and maybe an R1 between his moves, you'll wear him down eventually
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So how does DkS 3 compare to 1 and 2 in terms of difficulty? I just got to firelink shrine and it been a few years since I played 2.
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Fuck boss invasions how do I time it every time i fuck up the timing and keep thinking more and more I've been getting memed.
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>solo host altf4 after I start to whoop his ass
>isn't even getting mobbed

I tried looking for a group on steam to the effect of telling that faggot to go into offline mode if he doesn't want to be invaded, but I never realized how retarded steams search algorithms are.

oh well.
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>>173280304
It's the most difficult one.
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>>173280304
Quite a lot easier
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>>173280304
It was difficult the first time I played it. Now its easy, but the same goes for the other 2 games. once you know where everything is and how everything moves, the game is just too easy.
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>>173279916
The Sorcerer before the Crystal Sage Fight. and oops, I forgot about Yoel, thanks for reminding me about him. I've only beat up to the Crystal Sage, did I fuck up?
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>>173279597
Thanks for everyone who joined the boss rush tonight!

More tomorrow, actual fun boss bosses ahead.

>>173280083
Sure was, I turned around and everything was dead. Thanks onionbro and samson.

>>173280112
>>173280246
We're done, sorry. ;_; I keep getting fucking invaded so I don't hang around for long.
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>>173279810
>Arty used a greatsword and a shield
>Arty's fan club used an UGS with a dagger because they shun shields

This will never not aggravate me.
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>Faith is you healing, throwing long distance projectiles, throwing close range projectiles, or buffing then swinging a melee weapon
>Sorcery is you casting long distance projectiles, short distance projectiles, or swinging a melee weapon
>Pyromancy is essentially the same thing as using a very slow, very long melee weapon given the range
>Bows barely exist and are borderline worthless unless you're feeling especially bored and want to horribly gimp yourself
I'm convinced the only way to make alternate play styles fun would be to start over completely from scratch, all the problems with non-melee combat stem from the fact that they rely on you running away in order to give yourself the time it takes to cast something
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>>173279189
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>>173280304
You're absolutely not gonna get an objective opinion here. The only fact is that DS3 is faster than the other souls games.

It's the same story every time. People will usually rate difficulty in the order they played. Simply because a great deal of skill carries over.
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>>173280192
Heavy Lothric UGS with lightning resin or Dragonslayer Greataxe
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>>173280430
No, as long as you don't enter the area after watchers yoel won't die, and Orbeck lets you kill two bosses before giving him a scroll I think.
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>>173280443

Maybe I'll catch the next one if you keep asking for help for each boss.
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>>173276003
I asked before, and it apparently does, since it comes out at the same speed. Haven't tested it myself though
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>>173280357
>>173280362
>>173280429
Really? Is anything harder than the snow DLC for 2? Because those horses and the 2 cats made me want to kill myself more than ever before.
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>>173276695
>no option to sheathe your weapon
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It seems Midir has a VFX for having glowing red eyes, but I don't ever remember seeing him use it.
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>>173280582
the onionbro here, I also have to kill deacons, you can put your summon sign near the fog gate and I'll summon you
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>>173280304
it's mechanically well tuned, everything is so much more responsive and well made in das3 compared to the previous two games so it ends up being a lot easier. level design and mechanics just make sense in das3, and that's why it's easier.
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>>173280304
its a mixed bag, a lot of the bosses and enemies will challenge you. The new dlc bosses especially.

Its more fair compared to 2, you're not going to see royal swordsman or stuff like that in 3.

but bonfires are pretty generous so there really isn't any tension in the game. not as abundant as 2 but bonfires in 3 are more like simple checkpoints than signs of relief.
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>>173276178
sounds like Let It Die
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>>173278398
I like to gogue vig to 27 and stam up to 20 while using a raw weapon up to maybe sl 50ish or so. At least until you get dark fire orb and chaos orb/vestiges then respec for pyro damages.
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>>173280469
The magic is just fucking shit and the FP system sucks. Having the Fp regenerate like stamina, but slower would have probably improved the magic classes. The more points you put into attunement, the faster your FP would regenerate.
But then there's the problem with magics being all over the place. early game magic things are just not fun. Casting a projectile is not fun.
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>can't even take aldritch sign off keep invading too fast

help
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>>173278696
I love that webm
Blender is the future
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>>173280245

You still there or naw? I thought it was already done but I'm down, in b4 y ou already started because like 7 mins have passed.
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>>173280619
nothing really like that in 3 every challenge is more reasonable than the shit moments in 2.
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>>173280831
>>173278696
pls post
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>>173280192
DSGA is great and super thematic
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>>173280883
I'm still there, password is 'dsg'
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>>173280941

k, coming over now. name is LUL
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>>173280684
maybe he was supposed to get triggered by Milwood gear like Raime got triggered by Velstatd's gear
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>>173276435
you guys are no fun
where is the guy who made a kanye west character?
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>>173278443
Farm Black Knight Gear. the Shield is good enough to block most of Midir's damage. If you dont mind fat rolling, throw on full havel. the shield and defenses will be enough to let you do damage to his face.
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>>173280348
>I tried looking for a group on steam to the effect of telling that faggot to go into offline mode if he doesn't want to be invaded

If people actually did that then invasionfags would just end up bitching that they only invade other PvPfags.
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>>173280684
his eyes are tiny as fuck so giving him beady little red eyes would have made him look like a cartoon.
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>summoned as fun police to help some noob on the high wall
>land jump attack on invader, about to finish him off
>he fucking black crystals me
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>>173279468
Doubt it.
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>>173280304
I'd say harder than DaS 2, and perhaps harder than DaS 1 as far as the bosses go, but easier than DaS 1 as far as the areas with normal mobs play out.
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>Not a single sign at Pontiffs
It's kind of depressing. I've no problem with arena beyond not being able to pick opponents, but it makes me sad seeing the area that was so busy now dead.
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>>173281108
Sure
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/635vqr/first_iteration_of_the_new_tier_list/
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So Seething Chaos: Worth it or do I get the sword and use it for some casting?
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>>173278206
In the cathedral giving your rebirths.
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>>173281190
I absolutely despise the arena's unembered HP
everyone dies in one fucking combo, shit's not fun
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>>173280941
>>173280998
Lol that was hilarious, GG.

Great Mace too OP.
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What is the most high populated SL to do online at.
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Is millwood axe still moderately op?
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>get to Cathedral of the Deep
>finish Ashes of Ariandel DLC
>finish The Ringed City DLC
>now go grind the deacons to dust with lmao2ugs
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>>173281271

Thanks. Don't really care about adhering to tiers so much, but it's nice to have everything laid out like that.
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>>173281397
Maybe pontiffs I'm not sure
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>>173281341
Oh right, yeah, no ember HP is also a pain. So my complaints about arena are probably
>No flat arena
>No embered HP
>Can't pick opponents
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>>173280902
http://lmgtfy.com/?t=i&q=gwynevere+mimic+hentai+gif
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>>173281410
It's good for an axe, but it's still an axe.
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>>173281397

What do you want to do? Invade or duel? Actually probably easier to just say both and say SL35 +4 for early game, SL50 +6 for mid game, and SL70 +8 for end game for invasions. SL120-140 for duels or the most cancerous fucking post-pontiff ganks imaginable that are all seeded and abusing host advantages to the absolute maximum.
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>>173281397

60 aldritch summons, I can't even take my covenant symbol off it grabs me too quickly
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>>173280304
All the other anons have already said basically everything but I just want to add that it's much harder to cheese and exploit the game to win.
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>>173280818
I can never respec I always suck when I try to use my new weapons and stuff
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>>173281108
here
>>173281271
off yourself
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>>173281397
Probably 120.

But 120 is for casuals, yadda yadda SL80 true meta etc. etc.
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>>173281271
What's the point when another patch will be out soon to fix everything from the latest patch?
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>>173281397
133 gets you both 120 and 150, which are probably the most populated levels
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>>173281365
Cheers, Great Mace anon
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PC FC@ High Wall

pass is dsg

Signs are starting to get a bit slower here.
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>>173281410
it's an axe with greatsword AR and a built-in buff
it's very good but loses against anything with hyperarmor so not OP
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>>173281656
what? people play at SL150?
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>>173281563
What platform?
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anybody know the poise frames and multiplier on the dark hand's weapon art?
I heard they added it to it
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>>173279170
The Innumerable Patches
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Guys, I can't beat the Soul of Cinder.
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>>173279861
Ok I'm at highwall and this character doesn't have red sign yet
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>>173281656
At 133 you can no longer aldritch invade if you wanted to do that.

132 is the highest you can go and still have ALL forms of multiplayer with sl120's
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>>173280684
Yo Z can you hack the mainframe and find out how much poise Greatlance R1 has? It's not in the poise calculator.
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>>173281697
contingent over on reddit does, and I assume there are more redditors doing it then there are people doing 80 and 100 stuff.
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Going to try a DEX build, any tips?
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>>173282012
Level up your dexterity stat
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>>173282012
Press R1 to attack.
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>>173271727
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>>173282012
level up your dexterity stat 40 to 45 times
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>>173281695
>>173281539

the melee gap closer WA seems like it'd be useful

>>173281736

pc desu
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What are the major lore reveals from the DLC? I don't want to watch vaati or any other cucktuber.
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>>173282012
Wolves hunt in packs.
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>>173282012
try to deal damage to your enemies while avoiding having damage dealt to you
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>>173281943
So, what you're saying is 150 is the meta?
Why 150 though? What can you even do that's unique at 150?
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>>173281697
>>173281943

My roommate plays at SL150 and he still gets just as much action as I do at 120, so I'd say it's pretty active.

On another note, does anyone know how level scaling works in the arenas? Said roommate and I were doing 2v2's and we couldn't notice any difference in his stats or anything, so I assume it just tries to match people with a similar average?
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>>173282012

Don't raise your dex
Vigor vigor vigor
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why is pc brawl/co-op so dead
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>>173282118
It would be more useful if it didn't let you roll out 90% of the time before the actual attack
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well I'm going to kill swordmaster first or at least try to
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>>173281607
>anri's not top tier
>tpgs beneath wolnir's
>twinaxes as high as any other paired weapon
>painting scim in low tier when it has an infinite
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>>173282205
You can do Vicars™ at SL150
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Outside of CBV and Black Flame, what are the best Pyromancies to use? I've got 5 slots.
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The lack of PARTAKING in this thread is troubling.

I don't have any. Post some please.
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okay, I figured out the ringed city and what the fuck filianore was.

the ringed city was the dream of filianore

the ashen waste was the real world

the dream of filianore, of the ringed city, and possibly that entire world all 3 games take place in, was created as a PRISON for humanity and the dark soul. bearers of the curse such as that from dark souls 2 are sent to the lands of the gods to "Find a cure" for the curse, are taken into the past, and are stuck there eternally. the only way out is to do what gael did and wait an eternity
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>>173282249
Because brawl and teams are garbage and no one likes them
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i'm back
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>>173282139
The world was gonna die any how

serpents might be dogs

pygmies got cucked by gwyn

the dark soul got eaten by old man jenkins so he could rev up his jalopy.
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>>173281658

NP man, any time. Actually if anyone else is down for some co-op tonight for bosses, let me know. At least for shit where an SL50 +6 would be appropriate. I normally just invade over and over but I'm bored and stomping bosses seems fun to me today for some reason.

Here have a webm of what I mean by hilarious, lol. So fucking glad the Great Mace is actually good now, i.e. has reasonable STR scaling now. Gonna have to experiment with ultra weapon + 100% physical block shield now, BK shield with Great Mace is working incredibly well in invasions for me thus far. The shield actually makes the perseverance even more useful I believe.
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>>173281607
>RKSS
>top tier
that thing sucks lmao
literally just style points
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>>173282205
Nah, I'm not saying that 150 is the meta, but there's a good chunk of people over on reddit who think 120 is too low, and encourage leveling to 150. Reasoning is that 120 is too low for caster builds and 150 will have greater build variety.

I think 120 is still the more common level for people who stick to a meta, but 150 seems to be the second most common. I figure getting your level to match with both will get you the most activity.
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>>173281943
I don't understand why people try so hard to force new metas like that. 150 is too high and is simply trying to have your cake and eating it too. 80 is in an uncomfortable spot, it's too high for those fun, earlier game invasions but not high enough for the people already in NG+ you're going to be running into. 100 doesn't seem too bad but you're now within range of people at 120, will match up with them only now they have 20 levels of extra points on you.

I'll personally stick to my 120-130 builds where my online activity is never ending and I still have build diversity and actually have options to choose from.
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>>173279189
Im not even sure what this one is
Are you using your 『STAND』powers to unleash a barrage of deep souls?
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>>173282480
As I said earlier in the thread, 132 is the highest you can go if you want all forms of multiplayer with someone still at sl120. I just wanted to make sure I shared that with you seeing as you're discussing a comfortable level range for most activity.
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>>173272391
>you lived long enough to see claymore replaced
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>>173282375
Yeah but what about the transposing kiln in Filianore's egg?
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>>173282470
The WA is good for safely bothering turtles
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>>173282357

I haven't tried it since the patch tho, idk if they turned it into shit now or if they fixed the glitch where if you buff your right hand weapon the preacher arm in your offhand also gets boosted.
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>>173281478
>>173281550
>>173281563
>>173281617
My main is already at SL 100 so I think I'm going to get my new character to be SL 60. Maybe another character at SL 35.

Thanks for the advice
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So I don't want to look like shit, but I also want the access to the untrue rings and so on. If I get 5 levels from Yoel, and then heal the dark sigils, will Yuria dissapear or will I still be able to buy from her?
Also, will I still be able to get Chemeleon?
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>>173281607
>>173281108

can you faggots PLEASE stop posting stupid normie misinformation

both of those lists are outdated memeshit
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>>173281883
Sorry, poise values for attacks is something I haven't really looked into.
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>>173282139

the pygmy was a cripple

there was dark souls 2 dream shenanigans afoot the entire world of dark souls was a prison for humanity

filianore is a cute. a CUTE!
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>>173282356
people typically throw in fire surge and serpent with those
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>>173282465
Still nothing can beat the fun of fighting Deacons exclusively using the Farron Greatsword's weapon art.
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Any improvements I can make to my Faith/Strength Grant build? Really just want to PvE with occasional PvP when I'm invaded or whatever.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/532598
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>>173282617
it's okay against weapons with no HA, but real HA weapons will fucking destroy you
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>>173282249
it's the same on consoles
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>>173272391

>implying anybody uses it
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>>173282660
>gotthards
>not top

just as bad as the others
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PC FC at High Wall

pass is dsg

Flail of Ariandel has little crow feet at the end of the thongs.
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>>173282605

there is none
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>>173282139
There was actually a great number of pygmies with dark souls before the Furtive Pygmy gave rise to mankind.

These pygmies were pretty good at utilising their dark souls, able to manifest the Abyss and craft weapons from it. They fought in the war against the dragons alongside the gods.

Fearing the pygmies and the power of the dark, after the war was done, Gwyn rewarded the pygmies with a beautiful city, the Ringed City, to live in. He also placed a seal of fire on the pygmies' dark souls (which seems to be the dark sign) to stop them from utilising their power properly. He sealed the pygmies' leaders, the Pygmy Lords, who had split *the* Dark Soul amongst them, away (in another dimension? at the end of time? no one's quite sure), and gave his youngest daughter, Fillianore, to the pygmies as a sign of good will - though really she maintained the seal on the Pygmy Lords.

However, the Furtive Pygmy didn't fall for Gwyn's ruse, and escaped the Ringed City. While the rest of the pygmies were trapped in the Ringed City (though they seemed to have good lives there), the Furtive Pygmy gave rise to humans.


The Angels are actually some form of Pilgrim Butterfly, shown to develop from Pilgrims. So, presumably the religion was against linking the fire, which is why it was considered heretical.
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>>173282738
Any big dick weapon that can do huge damage to a large area is incredibly satisfying, it seems. Even watching that webm I just made right now is incredibly satisfying.
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>>173282789
I wish both spears were modeled after Ornstein's dogdick spear instead of just one.
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>>173282486
Yeah, but it is what it is. There's a bunch of popular threads from back in the day going on about how 120 is too low. I'm pretty sure 120 is still more popular over there, but there's probably a bunch of 150s too. And I do like playing against build variety, and I imagine more casters go up to 150 than stay at 100.
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>>173281857
OOPS
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>>173282308
Painting Scimmy infinite leekspin is either already patched (can't test right this moment) or will soon.
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>>173282738
>he doesn't know about the RKPGS
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>>173282593
Yeah, I was misreading the summon range calculator, 132 is the best level for 120-150.
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>>173282308
Fixed a bug where the weapon art of "Painting Guardian's Curved Sword" would combo for more hits than intended
fuck off retard
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>>173282789

How are these now with the buffs to shit like sharp infusion?
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>>173282660
>calls other lists outdated
>Raw "301 AR" ASS still listed as top tier when the longsword has more AR and no faith req
>claims anri's damage is low when it still outdamages LHS and meets any dex SS's AR if you're going to have enough faith for regen anyway
>CB above frayed
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>>173276241
it's not that, it's that I don't know how I'd go about making that apart from thorn helm.
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>>173282789
But Anon
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>>173282736
Thanks, I'll give them a go in the arena and see how things turn out.
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>>173282659
>>173282659
>>173282659

Anyone?
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>a year after release
>both DLC's released
>this still happens regularly

welp
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>>173283259
just inject lol
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>>173282764
I don't agree at all
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>>173282728
Where's the source for the entire world being a prison?
>>173282831
Yes there is. I can't find the concept art for her to post for you though.
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>>173283259
Once you heal the dark sigil, Yuria dips out. Make sure you buy everything you want from her then heal it. Or buy everything, kill her for her set, then heal it.
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>>173282764
whatever you say

>>173283052
>three out of four of my objections go untouched
>"wow retard"
sure anon
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>>173283149
>duels

Now invade with it, pussy.
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>>173282139
The world has already ended but Gwyn's last daughter is keeping the Pygmies prisoner in a dream outside of time because Gwyn didn't want anyone to get the Dark Soul, much like how the SoC was keeping you and all the inhabitants of Firelink prisoner in a dream so that it could create a vessel to keep the Flame going (you) until a proper Undead shows up.

Gael waits until you wake the sleeping daughter because he knew you'd be enough of a dumbass to just randomly touch her egg-prison like you were enough of a dumbass to touch the painting scrap. Then he slaughters the pygmies so that he can host the biggest fragment of the Dark Soul.

The pygmies are all small and childlike and their legs are all charred to uselessness much like Ludleth. Unlike Ludleth they all have hair.
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I'm going to take my NG0 SL120 character and play all the way until NG+7.

Who do I cosplay the entire time?
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So is RAW ASS still the best? What's the new meme raw weapon
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Is there any reason to wait to buy the Fire Fades edition over getting DS3 and the DLC now while it's on sale?
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>>173283372
>>173283259
she drops her ashes when you kill her if you don't have the money on hand
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>>173282308

Anri's requires way too much investment to get equivalent damage as the other straight swords at meta levels, 40 luck alone gets it under 400 AR which is mediocre for Straight Swords and it has nothing else unique about it save the regen.

TPGS has meh damage and the WAR1 has very noticeable wind-up, Wolnir's meanwhile is the second longest GS in the game on par with WKGS/Gael's and has good AR on a STR/FAI build.

Twinaxes have insane damage and got a forward L1 momentum buff which you would know if you actually tried them.

Painting Guardian sword should be obvious if you're not an idiot which sadly isn't the case.
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Does the DLC on PC still run like dog shit or have any of the recent updates improved it?
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>>173271727
tfw just got ds1 ptd on steam and its not launching
tfw no face
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>>173282854
>Split *the* dark soul amongst them
How does that work when you just said the other pygmies had dark souls
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>>173283465
Oscar of Astora
dying is part of the cosplay
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What happens if you try to go to Midir's boss room before you knock him down the pit?
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>>173282763
Fuck off with the unrelated pictures. If you want to ask a Souls-related question, post a Souls-related picture.
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>>173282901
Thanks a lot mate.
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What's best magic route in DS3.
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>>173283478
Raw broadsword for sl 1 though that was basically the case anywyas. Raw dragonslayer axe, drakeblood gs are both great as well
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Is there any benefit to getting vitality besides the equip load? Does the physical resistance actually mean anything? I have some surplus vitality that might come in handy if I change my fashion or equip a heavier weapon, but I'm wondering if I should just toss it into vigor and go past 40.
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>>173283465
Havel or Smoug.

You're not done until you can fast roll without a Havel Ring.
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>>173283541
There's a fog wall, but you can't interact with it at all.
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>>173272171
Gotta say this, roided santa really grew on me. Pic somewhate related
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>>173283478
Raw broadsword got buffed to have the same AR as the pre-patch raw ASS.
Raw ASS is now worse than the raw longsword.
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Did the two DLCs provide any new twink weapon?
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>>173283281
>gael's

makes me ponder
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>>173283465

Patches.
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>>173283391
>anri's memesword after nerfs
>tpgs aka no range sword with beams that are easy to dodge
>twinaxes have true combo not like you would know
>since you think painting guardian cs has infinite
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>>173283579
Miracles, if we're not talking about actually using them in a new game
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>All combatants have returned home. Returning to own world.
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>>173283562
no problem
sorry i accidentally used some of your souls, wasn't paying attention
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>>173283478
Broadsword. It has the Raw ASS's old AR from before the patch and you get it in the exact same area and don't need faith to use it.

>>173283509
The only thing you NEED to buy from her if you needed it is the londor braille tome. That will not appear in the shrine maiden shop.
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>>173283521

I only ever experienced frame dips at the very beginning section of the DLC before the drop.
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>>173283541
If you glitch into it using the partake skip he's still there and you can fight him normally, though I think he still appears on the bridge which is interesting.
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>>173283629
The opposite, the best weapons it has to offer require either 40 Str (45 for the doors) or 40 Dex.
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Can I get a pale tongue without invading? My ping is pretty much garbage and there's no way I could win PvP without the host being an idiot and dying to NPCs.

I'm also a dick sucking retard and sold the ones you find in game because I couldn't figure out what they were for.
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>>173283414
>Outside of time
But the firelink and ringed city we go to are all wrecked and abandoned.
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>>173283465
Gael, using executioner's and sunset shield, and after NG+3 use the repeating crossbow, after +5 use Gael sword and crossbow without the shield.
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>>173283781
Farm the Darkwraiths before Abyss Watcher
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>>173283781
you can easily farm them from dark wraiths
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>>173283781
They are a rare Darkwraith drop
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>>173283765
I think Zullie demonstrated that, since they use two different models, they're considered two different entities.
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>>173272171
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>>173283527
Oh my bad. Well, possibly the rest of the pygmies were descendants of the Pygmy Lords, or I guess the more likely explanation, the Pygmy Lords kept the powerful, sizeable chunks of the Dark Soul while the rest of the pygmies just had Humanity size pieces.
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>>173283841
>>173283853
pic

How rare are they?
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>>173283801

the game world is the land outside of time. the desert is the real world
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>>173283510
>>173283662
>Anri's has low damage
No, it doesn't. You should be going for 35 faith pretty much no matter what because regen is stupid broken. If you do that, it has nearly equivalent AR to any SS with dex investment equivalent to Anri's luck investment.

>Beams
WAR1 is still completely safe on TPGS and any TPGS build doubles as a GFS build since they have identical weight and borderline identical scaling.

>Twinaxes have a true combo
wow like loads of other faster and better weapons?

>o-oh yeah well you forgot about the painting CS fix
whoop de do, it's still 3:1
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>>173283910
He gets smaller in phase 2? Wat?
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>>173283959
theyre rare, but wearing symbol of avarice and and the +3 gold serpent ring makes it a lot less painful
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>>173283509
>>173283372
what about the chameleon spell? Will I be able to get it somehow?
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>>173283910
>Second form model is actually different and not just him standing upright
huh
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>>173283986
Okay but if the dreams are outside of time then time shouldn't pass for them and they shouldn't be decrepit when we get to them, but they are.
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>>173284085
I want able to get the avarice this cycle, can I just buy rusted coins to compensate?
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>>173283910
I just realize his sword both gets shorter and its hilt repaired.
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>>173284086
yeah just kill the hag at the church of yorshka before killing the pontiff
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>>173283542
Autism.
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>>173284102

dream travel is time travel, this is why you can just walk into an age of dark version of firelink shrine as if it was nothing. you just sort of bounce around time aimlessly which is why you can see the silhouettes of other players appear as you play, that's them phasing into your world.
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>>173284205
Kill yourself back to /b/.
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How are you people liking the Frayed Katana? I'd like to take a break from big smashy weapons for a bit and it looks cool.

Also I might as well ask; I finally got DMB on a character, what sort of weapons pair well with that? Raw Drakeblood Greatsword?
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>>173284042

Every build can use regen with an offhand Blesstus and Sun Princess, so what? It still has less AR with your set-up and does has less range than most great Straight Swords.

WAR1 is not completely safe as it can be punished up close by other greatswords or ultras. TPGS builds are not identical to GFS builds as well since TPGS is a Greatsword with alright AR at best with average range while GFS has great AR on Quality or Pyro builds while having the longest spear range.

Twinaxes are stupidly fast and have great range on the L1s now. Would you like to fight against them to see since proof might be the only thing that will sway you?

>whoop de do, it's still 3:1

>I was wrong but fuck you
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>>173283781
>I couldn't figure out what something was for so I sold it
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>>173283910
Zullie, can we get a back shot of both Gael models? I wanna see the skulls with better detail.
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Is duel bacon the new meta weapon? I see it in every invasion.
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>>173284241
That doesn't really answer my question though. If TRC we go to is a dream sustained by the egg and outside of time, then time shouldn't pass for it. I have a hard time believing the dream trap was sprung /after/ the city was fucked, so why is it fucked by the passage of time inside a timeless dimension?
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>>173284052
>>173284186
I see it as him getting back a semblance of his sanity. Kinda funny when you realise he's voiced by Ludwig's VA. I really like his delivery of "For my lady's painting"
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Is there an Unfaltering Prayer difference between the (normal) Talisman and Canvas talisman?
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I feel dirty for changing from my fashion armor to edgy armor because it had more fire resistance in midir fight, did I cheat?
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>>173284474
Time is convoluted inside the dream. Once the dream ends, TRC returns to the timeflow and catches up to the age it's supposed to be, exactly like Filianore does when you wake her.
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>>173283414
>>173283801
>>173283986
>>173284102
I don't buy that the entire world of Dark Souls is a dream world, because then why would there be Gods and Ages of Dark and shit inside it? Why would it have any resemblance to the real world? Or if it doesn't, what's the real world like? Our entire understanding of the lore would fall apart if that were the case.

What I can believe is that the Ringed City is under an illusion maintained by Fillianore (doesn't one of Gwyndolin's descriptions say that his illusions came from his moon magic, which was considered a feminine trait?), which is why it still seems pretty in tact even when the rest of the world has gone to shit, as shown by Dreg Heap (stuff there confirming the DLC takes place in the future), but waking her up reveals the true state of things.

The big problem with this idea though is that, if the Ringed City is maintained by a fancy illusion, then why has the Abyss managed to sneak its way in? Though, I suppose that could be a result of the proximity of the Pygmy Lords and their Dark Souls, or maybe Kaathe snuck it in, or maybe the Abyss has just managed to eat away at the illusion over time, while Time hasn't.

The other problem the DLC raises is why the fuck does the Ashen One get sent to the far future to link the flame? How the fuck is that supposed to help the present?
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>>173284125
yeah they sort of help
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>>173284614
>>173284474

dream travel takes you into the past as a phantom and you experience time in a meaningless, convoluted manner.

filianore was used to trap humanity in the past.
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>>173284539
My understanding is the normal talisman has a little less poise, but scales better at 60. But the difference in poise is pretty insignificant.
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>>173284193
But will she even appear there if I heal the dark sigil and kill Yuria way earlier?
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>>173284614
Maybe you're just not understanding what I'm asking.

TRC was created and Filianore's dream instated at time point 1.
TRC is fucked by the passage of time, broken and full of monsters at time point 2.
If the dream is timeless, why do we experience time point 2 rather than 1?
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Give me good fashion, I like Ringed Knight city but there's not a single piece of headwear that fits it, even the godamn RC veil. I've been stuck with Slave Knight Set for way too long.
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>>173284343
>Every build can use SPR and blesstus
yeah base 4 hp/s is totally the same as healing off a straightsword stunlock in roughly twenty seconds

it isn't as though there are numerous high end miracles you can get access to at 35 faith or anything

>well the WA that was specifically built to be fired from range isn't safe if you use it point blank like a retard
how insightful

I've fought against the twinaxes, they're a meme and there's really no reason to use them over SSTB
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Return from whence thou cam'st
For that is thy place of belonging.
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>>173284751
she appears even if you never get yuria to come, though I think killing Anri early might prevent her from spawning in
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>>173284645

did you play dark souls 2?

dream travel is TIME TRAVEL. you are experience the past and can influence it.

the pygmies were trapped in the actual ringed city in the real world, which collapsed a very very very long time ago, and the dream world was constructed long after, probably when gwyn was going off to kill himself, to imprison humanity where they couldn't do any damage.
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>>173284765
I imagine Darkwraith hood would go quite well with it. Ringed Knight is Darkwraith+ after all.
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>>173284753
This is also what i was wondering desu
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>>173283682
Don't really need them just dropped them since i backed up my data anyway
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Would anyone on PS4 be up for helping me move a Sage Ring +2 onto my sorcery character? You can keep it for yourself by backing up your save before giving it to my new character, too. Pass is THANKS and I'd throw my sign down at Undead Settlement.
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Somebody talk me out of this
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>>173284753

dreams are memories, it was constructed by not allowing anything to befall filianore so that her dead memory would be long and all-encompassing.
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>>173284916
I don't recall there being anything to do with dreams in Dark Souls 2, nor is there anything that says the game world was constructed after the real world ended, and all the shit to do with Fillianore talks about Gwyn making her do shit, so how would that be the case if he'd fucked off?

The Ringed City is under an illusion, like Anor Londo was in the first game, but the rest of the world is real.
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>>173285015
>SL120

enjoy reddit pvp
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>>173284474
>so why is it fucked by the passage of time inside a timeless dimension?
because like everything else Gwyn created, it was powered with the first flame
the first flame was dying so the time started to pass
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>>173285079
t. Japanese sl150 poster
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>>173285015
>23 att
>unused slot
???
add one more att and use beacon
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>>173285015
>23 attunement
For what purpose? You know 24 gets you four slots, and 18 gets you three? Why not just go one more point, or reduce it?
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>>173285015
what does this attempt to accomplish. it excels at nothing and the weapon is ass. If you want to do yolo just do a level 50 mage with like 60 int or some shit
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>>173284772

Healing miracles are good but anyone who is competent in arena will punish them with a BS or other combo. Now I think you're assuming I think Anri's are shit or something when I don't, I just think it has a more niche role compared to other straight swords. It's good but is not all-dominating.

>how insightful

And your comment is? WAR1 of TPGS can be both parried and poise traded with anyone who is a decent distance who has fought it before will have space to both see it fire and roll it under this very logic. It only works consistently well against ultra users who mash R1 in your face constantly as a punish.

>I've fought against the twinaxes, they're a meme and there's really no reason to use them over SSTB

Despite having more range now than Sellsword L1s for equivalent DPS? Sellswords have the better R1s still so I think they're equivalent but the sheer raw damage potential combined with their post-buff speed and AR makes competitive. Again if you'd like to contest this I'd be glad to have a few matches with you to compare.
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>>173285029
>It was constructed as broken and decrepit
?
>>173285107
So >>173284645 is right about the abyss breaking through into the dream, then?
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>>173284832
Bleed for 1st phase. Take your time with the 2nd phase. Use a greatshield.
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>>173284381
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>some jackass is trying to stunlock me with DWGS
>persevere through it and poke his ass with the leo ring for 70% of his hp bar

Is RHH sleeper OP?
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>>173285075
>I don't recall there being anything to do with dreams in Dark Souls 2
Then you clearly didn't beat the main game, because it's literally required to enter one to do so.
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>>173285163
>>173285129
I forgot the attunement slots numbers, I just wanted FP for the spintowin
May as well get one more point in there to get the next slot I guess
>>173285168
It's not meant to be a good build, it's meant to push the dancers swords into decent tier
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>>173285279
>get the most powerful soul in the game
>fucking gaping wound in your abdomen
>skull shaped pustules start growing out of your back

Yuck
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>>173285290
Leave my weaponfu out of this you fuck!
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>>173285361
'Memory' and 'dream' are not synonymous.
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>>173285075
>I don't recall there being anything to do with dreams in Dark Souls 2, nor is there anything that says the game world was constructed after the real world ended, and all the shit to do with Fillianore talks about Gwyn making her do shit, so how would that be the case if he'd fucked off?

1. memories of the giants. you are entering the dreams of the dead.

2. go rewatch the dark souls 2 intro video: https://youtu.be/15NXrnyT2HM and take note of the large amounts of dream and mirror symbolism. the tree is the dream tree from king's field, and is called quella in dark souls 2

3. gwyn put her to sleep when he locked up the pygmies. the dream could have been an act of mercy, knowing that humans never die, as a means of escape, but obviously that's speculation.
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>>173285279
Well, lorefags?
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>>173285432
but anon fampai we can share
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>>173284832
Patience is a virtue, in most cases you can R1 the shit out of father and just roll the exploding ice. First phase you can just exploit the invisibility, third you can trade damage pretty effectively even if you miss your timing
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What's the can-respec-into-anything class? I'm thinking deprived since it starts with 10 in everything and at sl1, but I don't know.

I'm playing as a sorc right now and the fact that I have 16 int and I don't even use it and can't decrease it is killing me.
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>>173285290
It always has been amazing and they buffed perseverance. Not sure why I don't see it more often but I'm damn glad I don't
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>>173282817
nice angle
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>when the host goes into T-pose and you still beat him to death
>CONNECTION ERROR
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>>173285427
>tfw they're the souls of pygmies trying to escape

>>173285498
great video anon
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>>173285502

he consumed the living souls of hundreds of men, and they are LITERALLY tearing him apart as they try to escape

that's what the dark sigil is, the whole in your body: the living soul ripping itself out of you.
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>>173284645
What people who push the "Ringed City is an illusion!" theory don't seem to get is that we know what happens when an illusion is broken from our experiences with Anor Londo in the first game.
To wit, you can't travel from a point after the illusion was broken back to a point before the illusion was broken through the bonfires.
We also know how time travel works from Artorias of the Abyss. In particular, we know that traveling back in time using bonfires is possible because you can warp to Oolacile.
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>>173285502
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>>173285183
it's just one retard who tries to force his dream bullshit
the ringed city is real, once you touch the egg you break what's left of the spell and time catches up
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>>173285498
>Better Writing with Grammarly
I think you've fucked up that video link, anon.
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>>173285563

It's not good against ganks, I've had a much better time using the Mace or Great Mace in invasions. In 1v1's though yeah RHH is great but good fucking luck trying to poke 3 dudes chasing you.
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>>173272125
Or just sit down outside the bossfog and enjoy a nice nap set to the sounds of the host getting horribly murdered.
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>>173285654
>webm started rendering right when the skull formed
Holy shit that actually spooked me
Spooky screaming skull
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Playing DS3 for the first time in a long ass time, and I'm looking for a pal to play with on NG. I'm at the Central Irithyll Bonfire on PS4, put your sign down and come play with me!

PW = dsg
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Do the little people icons represent people in your invasion / coop soul level range?
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>>173285687
Thats my biggest problem for being an invader. 90% of the time someone summons a sun bro and a blue bitch and there's nothing I can do to counter them.
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>>173285498
>https://youtu.be/15NXrnyT2HM
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>>173285679
>>173285620

tfw linked an ad

god fucking damnit

https://youtu.be/pXY1MzMM06c
https://youtu.be/pXY1MzMM06c
https://youtu.be/pXY1MzMM06c
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>>173285606
>host goes into T-pose
>backstabs you from the front
>goes out of T-pose to point down
>but you're not actually dead yet
>and you kill his arse before he realises what happened
Best feeling.
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>>173285794
We're on to you, you fucking Grammarly shill
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>>173285654
Man that's so clearly the exploding head model for Dark Souls 1

Asset flipping hacks
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Anyway I can copy over a save for a character? I want to NG++ but I also want to have a save for PvP.
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>>173285668

>it's just one retard who tries to force his dark souls 2 canon

eat my cock, dream shit is canon.
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>>173285498
>https://youtu.be/15NXrnyT2HM
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>>173284832
>turns invisible
>uncloaks behind you
>grapples you with dual scythes and slits your throat
psssh... return from whence thou cam'st, kid
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>>173285668
So there really was a dream and it really was timeless, but the first flame dying allowed the abyss to seep in and fuck it all up, as well as time to pass?

What happened to the pygmies trapped in TRC? Why are they all gone until we see the last one crawling around by Gael?
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Rank the Souls games from best to worst and state how many times you've beaten each and how many hours you have in each game to back your ratings up.

>BB = DS3 > DS1 > DS2
>BB once, DS3 9 times, DS1 twice, DS2 3 times
>BB about 15 hours, DS3 about 200 hours, DS1 about 60 hours, DS2 about 140 hours
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>>173285794
>tfw linked an ad

I thought you were shittalking someone's grammar and it seemed kind of funny.
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>>173285290
japs have always considered it one of the best weapons, but it's mainly a 1vs1 weapon
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>>173285606
Stop posting daftpatriot
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>>173286025
>>173285606

>tfw reconize that style
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>>173285279
Santa claus set when?
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Anyone else think everything before Irithyll or maybe even Lothric Castle is a boring slog to go through on repeat playthroughs?
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>>173285950
4 times* for DS2, whoops
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>>173285937

I think you are confused as to what a dream world is and how things affect it. dreams are essentially time travel, when you go to the ringed city that is the REAL ringed city, far in the past.
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>have fun with the PUGS
>love lightning arrow to bits
>PUGS aren't as effective without high poise
>don't wanna put points into VIT without having to sacrifice HP and END (plus the 30-35 FTH required for lightning arrow)

What do I do? I find the PUGS really fun for PVE reasons (I avoid PvP because of my unstable internet) but I don't wanna let go of my favourite miracle.
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>>173285950
Go away /v/
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>>173285873
>the exploding head model

What, these guys?
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>>173271727
Can I be in the collage, too?
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And on the third death of Jesus the FC ended, thanks for joining, everyone!
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Is it PUGS, DUGS, 2UGS, or RKPGs?
make up your mind /dsg/
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Does anyone here have a Ledo's great hammer build?

Also, did we ever figure out what poise does?
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>>173286379
Cute!
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What is the new twink weapon meta?
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Would +3 boss weapon be too high for Catacombs/Cathedral 45 SL?
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>>173286190
So Gwyn put Filianore there after the city was destroyed AND it's instanced so following Gael down into the city where he must have broken the egg too didn't result in the wasteland until we broke the egg?

Seems too complicated and not backed up by anything.
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>>173286393
ignore the first one I'm an idiot
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>>173286221
I kinda hate how necromancy is never really explained or explored
We never got any Nito miracles to fill our Dark arsenal. All 3 gods and Seath get shit after them, but Nito, like the Furtive Pygmy, was so easily forgotten. He never even got a mention in TRC.
There is no justice. Gravelord Dance wasnt enough.
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>>173286405
Yes you retard
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>>173286434
yeah. you don't get large titanite regularly until Smouldering Lake, and you'd have a +6 weapon
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>>173286432

Raw DSA still.

Rotten Ghru Spear/Dagger either with Rotten resin or Poison/Bleed infused.

Onyx Blade.
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>>173286405
go to 66 str and don't worry about armor because the weaponart makes you fucking invincible
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>>173286387
Thanks for the fights fukr
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>>173286442

you can't have a memory of something you weren't there to experience dipshit

the memories of the dead are of shit they remember

filianore was put in the ringed city at its inception, and was meant to sleep forever. when you woke her up and killed her you literally ended the dream and punted yourself out of it.
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>>173285937
not a dream
the kiln of the first flame/ringed city are in another dimension as you can see in dark souls 1 with the kiln's entrance
>but the first flame dying allowed the abyss to seep in and fuck it all up, as well as time to pass?
yes, the seal (dark sign) on the pygmies weakened with the first flame dying
>What happened to the pygmies trapped in TRC? Why are they all gone until we see the last one crawling around by Gael?
you meet one at the beggining of the ringed city
the rest was probably around filianore's church before the fastforward
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>>173285498
1. Memory and giant are not synonymous

2. I've heard that the plot of DaS2 was originally meant to be way more focused on time travel, before the big Tanimura reshuffle shitfest. The memories were actually meant to be time travel, and the opening reflects that. However, the point about Quella's shit is pretty good, but I still feel as if there's too little mentioning dreams in relation to the main game, or even at all in Dark Souls 3, to buy into the theory.

3. Yes, Gwyn put her to sleep to lock up the pygmies, but the pygmies aren't humans. Why would her dream apply to the entire world/ Why would it apply to humans? The Ringed City is maintained by her dream or sleep, yes, but not the whole world. Because if it were the whole world, then is Dark Souls 1 just a dream? Is the history of the dreamt world the same as the real world? Why would it be? Why would Gwyn make the dreamt world imperfect? Like I said, it's too much of a shake up of the lore for the whole world to be a dream.

>>173285653
That's true, but I imagine it's easier for the game devs to render a light Anor Londo and a dark Anor Londo, as opposed to a dreamy Ringed City and a 'holy shit everything's crumbled to fuck there's ash all up in my ass crack' Ringed City. I'm also of the opinion that dark Anor Londo is the illusion, given that the rest of the world stays light when the sun goes out there.

The other thing is Fillianore's Rest being in the future, when the DLC as a whole is already in the future, seems kind of redundant. Does she launch you even further into the end of time or what?
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>>173286567
>Filianore was put in the ringed city at its inception
Okay so that brings us back to my original question which why the ringed city is decrepit when we get there if it's timeless?
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>>173286197
Level up more
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>>173286434
I use +4 at level 35 and it's fine. I think most people would have +2 by that point at the very least, but then again I don't know the lengths of how retarded shitters can be.
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>>173271727
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>>173286548
>>173272940
>ledo
>not literal shit
lmaoing at ur build
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What's a good combo for the Crucifix? I just hit two 2HR1s and then do a running 2HR2 when they start rolling away in hopes of rollcatching them
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>>173286197
If you don't do PvP there's no reason to not level up.
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>>173286716

it's not timeless. the dream is just the past. the ringed city is "timeless" only in such terms as you can travel back to that point in time whenever you want, through the magic of dream time travel.
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>>173286548
That girl does not look like she has 66STR
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I miss when you could punish Estus.
>>
>>173286743
>>173286545
yeah, I think it would be too much. Just fought Abyss Watchers and they die with 8 hits from +2 MLGS. +3 would be overkill.
>>
How do you kill Friede with a low SL Pyromancer?
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>>173286843

I also forgot to mention that there is no dream version of the ringed city between the point you play it in and the point where it's a crumbling ruin, because you literally killed filianore
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>>173286782
I never said it was good, he asked for a ledo build so I tould him 66 str with low vit was the way to do it
>webm of a ledo user opening against another GH with just an R1 and not the weaponart
really adjectives the noun
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>>173286843
So it's a fixed point in time that was created when the ringed city was new and shiny but somehow this fixed point in time allowed the passage of time to fuck it up

And it's also not a universal fixed point in time but an individual one because Gael broke the egg too but you can still go there

????
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>>173286526
Nito almost certainly wouldn't be Dark Elemental. Just like the Dark Soul has Dark, Izalith has Fire, Gwyn has Lightning, and raw souls are just Magic, any spell derived from Nito would have its own unique element going by all logic.
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>>173286880
I've actually changed it into a dex build, but it has "the Strong" in the name so I look like a real asshole to anyone who views character names instead of user names
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>>173286617
>Does she launch you even further into the end of time or what?

You're already at the end of time, just the Ringed City itself is set aside. The egg Filianore is holding is a Transposing Kiln and when you break it, the dream of Filianore that was being transposed over the real version of the Pygmy's prison is dispersed.
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>>173287153
Wait you can choose which one you see?
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>>173287047

it's not a fixed point in time

the dead have memories, and they dream of their past.

through dream time travel, you can travel to and experience the memories of people who have died, so you can essentially go to any real, physical place in time, that the dead person was alive to experience.

filianore was essentially alive and sleeping eternally from the end of the dragon war itself, up until you killed her, and thus her memories can encompass any point in history between those two points. This was her purpose and why she was hidden away at the ass end of the world.
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>>173286580
What do you mean by around Filianore's church?
I didn't see any of them there. Or anything at all really.
>>
Did the FC at highwall end?
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>>173287047
>Gael broke the egg
Now hold on anon, lets stop right there
Who was making signs for you too follow?
Who was leading you across the dreg heap and through the ringed city?
Who has already shown that he was willing to use you for his own ends, knowing the nature of ash is too seek flame?
Gael used you to break the seal on the egg, thereby freeing the pygmy lords from whatever magical lockdown was keeping them hidden in the ringed city. With the egg broken, Gael was free to go after the dark soul
That's why he said 'Still here' in his cutscene. He did not expect the egg seal to cause you to remain timelocked until the end of time, where he intended to feast on the pygmys
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>>173287232
yeah, though I don't know if it applies to all systems
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>>173287087
I think the gravelord greatsword dance miracle dealt magic damage
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>>173287232

Only on the PS4.
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>>173287283
Which one you on, niggs.
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>>173287167
Yes, I agree, I was asking what the other anon's interpretation was seeing as he doesn't seem to agree.

>>173285937
I'm pretty sure most of the enemies in the Ringed Cities, all the little fucked Hollows, are the pygmies.
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>>173271727
r8 me
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>>173287312
>>173287332
works on xbone
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>>173287356
dragonblood/10
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>>173286526

dark souls 2 explored the fact that nito is inherently antithetical to humanity and their immortality; he is a god of death and humans cannot die. Plus he was pretty clearly explained by aldrich, who copied exactly what nito did and absorbed corpses into his being to gain their power.
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>>173271727
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>>173287356
>full set
A solid 0
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Fuck
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Whats the PvP scene like at the higher NG cycles? Do you even meet anyone besides NPCs?
>>
>>173287472
>GAELED
>>
>>173280469
Heysel for Demon's Souls
Kirk for Dark Souls I
Creighton for Dark Souls II
Leonhard for Bloodborne
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>>173286795
blease respond
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>>173271727
Add me in the collage pls
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>>173287452
>havel legs
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>>173287472
you've been memed
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>>173287483
NG cycles do not affect your PvP match making.
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>>173287260

gael had also already been consuming dark souls by the time you find his signs; they are covered in the skull flame even in the dreg heap.
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>>173287472
>that yellow health bar
>the souls number
are you trying to trick me friendo
>>
>>173287483
NG cycle hasn't mattered for a very long time.
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>>173287483
I am invaded almost every 1-1.5 hours on NG+, but then again the DLC is full of activity right now
Also have been getting pretty consistent Dorkmoon summons
>>
>>173287628
>>173287585
>>173287567
I mean what if you keep leveling?
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>>173287576
I didn't expect to die, so when I went back I took a screenshot of the message
>>
okay faggots im gonna end this shit once and for all

the dead have memories which can be comprehended

these memories can be given form with souls

ergo, it is hypothetical that a memory of an entire world could be given form with the power of the soul, or the power of the dark soul
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>>173287235
How could she have memories of something she was presumably in a deathly sleep for?
>>173287260
>He did not expect the egg seal to cause you to remain timelocked until the end of time
So Gael led you to the ringed city, and then hid there and waited for you to break the egg so he could eat pygmies that weren't in the ringed city he was in, while you were in stasis until the end of time, until the end of time when you exited stasis and found him?
>>
>>173287548
I like the way it looks
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>>173287676
Activity is solid at ''''meta''' 120
No idea beyond that
>>
>>173287452

Dragonsis?
>>
that valorheart was making me pretty salty, and i never considered it a great weapon before

that shielded stab WA is pretty neat
>>
>>173287821
Who else?
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>>173287296
Spells had off elements in 1, senpai.

I mean, of the big five that fought in the war, the four we know the most about had their own element. Gwyn, Izalith, Pygmy, and Seath. More importantly, the three of those with their own Lord Soul did. It just follows logic that Nito would be his own thing.
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>>173287815
I'm gong to go level to 999 and NG+7.

I'll report back when I'm done.
>>
>>173287426
Then where is Nito getting his skeletons?
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>>173287751

>How could she have memories of something she was presumably in a deathly sleep for?

this shit is convoluted as fuck. maybe she was dreaming the world from within the dream, who fucking knows? she completely disappears from the church after you kill her
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>>173287880
I wonder if anyone actually has a demigod char at that level and they're waiting for one of us scrubs to get on his level and face him.
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I don't even know why people think gael needed you to find the pygmies
he needed you to bring his blood to the painter, he knew he would lose his sanity
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>>173287936

undead can't die, even when they're broken down into nothing but a skeleton.

nito skeletons are human undead.

nito is an undead.

nito is the furtive pygmy

deepest lore
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Siegmeyer vs. Siegward
Duel to the death
Who wins?
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What's the best SL and weapon upgrade to be summoned as a Darkmoon blade/Blue sentinel?
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New:
>>173288134
>>173288134
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>>173283101

I've only used them on my Quality build, but I think they're better on a Dex character.

>>173283149
I love using those babies for duels. I hate that they're a little too slow for invasions or being ganked, though.
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>>173288048
>what, still playing?

>hand it over, that thing, your ember
>>
Why do people want to push this inception "THE SERIES WAS A DREAM" bullshit? I can think of nothing less satisfying.
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>>173288119
Both offer a toast before the battle and fall asleep, only to awaken and go questing together
>>
Can someone drop me a Great Wooden Hammer at High Wall of Lothric?

Password = dsgt
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>>173276438
Raw Drakeblood greatsword just became buff as fuck. +100 physical on the thing as of last patch.
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>>173282470

>literally just style points

That's the most important stat though
>>
Anything I can use for bleed in PvE that's not a katana/ss/dagger? I wanna bleed things to death but I like big weapons. No dlc tho.
>>
>>173287472

WOOOOOOOOOW

I WENT DOWN EXACTLY WHERE HE SAID TO AND I DIED

I TRIED TO HEAL, NOTHING HAPPENED

WOOOOOOW
>>
>>173290079
Spiked Mace
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>>173292420
Yeah, I asked in the new thread and some anons said the same. Thanks nonetheless anon!
>>
>>173290079
>>173292453
Have they suggested the Flamberge?
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>>173292568
Yes, they said both Flamberge and Spiked Mace were good weapons but I felt they were leaning more on Spiked Mace. I'll try them both since I haven't used either.
T-Thanks again, new anon.
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>>173283781
if you're laggy just get a high poise weapon and mash r1

you'll win 80% of the time
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>>173292568
>tfw I have never EVER had a flamberge drop
But I also get Symbol of Avarice on every character without farming. One even has two.
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