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Everyone is wondering about how Links will fuck everything up but the question is will we get another milf?

https://ygorganization.com/ocg-collectors-pack-2017/
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Collectors_Pack_2017

so apparently number 41: baguska is gonna be a thing, thoughts?

>>173195149
I really want to kill the bastards who put ntr and cuckshit in every motherfucking shit I watch or read.

>>173195356
no you retard
Konami is beating you over the head with "this is a joke" and you refuse to accept it

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More Silents when?

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>>173195356

>>173195149
I knew they were going to shill speed duels with the new series, but it still disappoints me.

>>173195607
The originals are already pretty mediocre, why would you want more?

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>This gains 300 ATK for each "Star Relic" monster with a different name in your Graveyard.
So we now have 8 Stargrail monsters.
And 2 Starelic S/Ts.
But not a single Starelic monster.

It really makes me wonder what the Starelic monsters are.

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Xth for sex with Aisha.

>>173195831
Who is this Aisha person

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>>173195802
>Why want more of favorite cards
They had a neat idea. Might have panned out slightly better if they had gotten more than 4 cards. Not even going to count Paladin.
Also for collecting.

>>173196086
It's still so weird for me how Paladin works. Like there was supposed to have another card.
On the bright side you got retrains of that. So its something.

>>173196086
I liked the idea of Silents, you tribute a type and then get a Silent which matches that type.

It seemed like a pretty neat concept but I doubt they'll ever be revisited again.

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tfw synchron player and can't come across link comboes despite swimming in tokens

i mean i guess i can firewall but unless you back something like that up nowadays it's kinda meh

>>173196459
I just want gandora to be a proper archtype

>>173195967
She is Aisha.

>>173196570
Hopeless Gandora

>>173196563
tbf synchro is basically feast or famine, you build and stupidly big field and/or loop your opponent's hand turn 1 or you scoop, and with so many disruption running rampant synchros were doomed even without links

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>>173196636

>>173196563
missing jam

>>173197050
Search for dpygo in youtube. Search Giga Gandora. It comes with a decklist. Use all the different Gandoras.

>>173195831
>Black and purple
Patrician taste in colours

>>173197243
Just use the spider first, and then the rest are almost the same.

>>173196570
>Kuribohs never had a set dedicated to them during all that nostalgia.
Feels wrong. At least they got the one from the Yugi structure deck but they deserved more.

>download yugioh pro
>thisgonnabefun.mp3
>build dark magician deck
>play against AI
>second turn he's cycled through 10 cards in his deck and has a 3200 atk monster

How did this game become so gay?

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>>173198476
>tfw konami may stop releasing nostalgia cards in favour of links

>>173198489
>second turn he's cycled through 10 cards in his deck and has a 3200 atk monster
That it?
Try the vsing the AI_Fluffal deck.

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>>173198489
Protip, change the AI's deck to Yugi.
It's OK anon. I have to do it too so I don't get completely styled on.

Which archetype has the most autistic player base, /dng/?

>>173198489
the computer is a cheating bastard?

>>173198737
>tfw fluffals_AI banish its whole graveyard when summoning sabretooth just to mock your shitty deck before otk

>>173198708
>Red-Eyes but no Jinzo
>Egyptian Gods didn't get a set to become their own deck.
So many missed opportunities with that era.

>>173198737
kek, Fluffal is so bad that I can beat it all the time with my Red-Eyes.

>>173198708
The one good thing to come of it

>>173198839
HEROs. by far.

>>173198839
your fave

>>173198739
I suck so bad that even with the decks I make, Yugi is still a tough opponent because of his bullshit mirror force, heavy storm and card of destruction cards. The Pegasus AI also knows your cards and I think there's a kaiba one but I don't know what deck it runs.

>>173198967
2 words, Neo Spacian

>>173198739
You can edit the ai decks you know, just remember not to overwrite them.
What I did was I removed all the annoying cards from the gadget deck and renamed it to AI_GadgetBAD for testing, all it can really do is rank 4 spam and Machina Fortress, good for not having to deal with disruption and dealing with annoying cards.

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>>173199078
Not anymore.

>>173198839
deskbots, every deskbot player is a confirmed fag

>>173198967
jinzo got side stuff and was roba's anyway

>>173198839
Any of the anime or petdeck ones

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>>173198967
oh and you did get god shit too

>>173199206
Red-Eyes was Dinosaur Ryusaki's monster and we don't see Red-Eyes dinos being released.

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>>173199385
>Dinosaur Ryusaki
bruh, Rex grind now and forever

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Has there ever been a point in time where morphtronics were a decent deck? Preferably not a Quasar focused one? I really like them and Power Tool.

>>173198980
It's not meant to be overly great, the point is it does a lot more than that.
Can OTK pretty consistently if you don't have disruption too.

https://ygorganization.com/cotd-stargrail-deck-event-cards-part-2/

Seihai no Yousei Reese / Stargrail Fairy Reese
Level 2 LIGHT Fairy-Type Effect Monster
ATK 100
DEF 200p0
LV2 100/2000
You can only use each of this card name’s effects once per turn.
(1) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 “Stargrail” monster from your Deck to your hand.
(2) If this card is in your Graveyard: You can send 1 monster from your field or hand to the Graveyard; add this card from your Graveyard to your hand.

Seiibutsu – “Seihai” / Starelic “Stargrail”
Level 5 DARK Machine-Type Effect Monster
ATK 0
DEF 0
You can only this card name’s (2) and (3) effects once per turn each.
(1) During either player’s turn, if a monster is Special Summoned from the Extra Deck: You can Tribute this card; send that monster to the Graveyad.
(2) If this Normal Summoned face-up card leaves the field: You can Special Summon 2 “Starelic” monsters from your Deck, except “Starelic ‘Stargrail'”.
(3) During your Main Phase, except during the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard: Add 1 “Starelic” card from your Deck to your hand.

>>173199594
google morphtronic quasar

>>173199756
so thats what starelics are

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Proxy Dragon
Link-2 LIGHT Cyberse-Type Link Effect Monster
ATK 1400
Link Markers: Left, Right
Link Materials: Monsters – exactly 2
(1) If a card you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you can destroy 1 monster in this card’s linked Zone instead.

>>173199206
Jinzo got 1 card in the entire Arc-V era, albeit a good card for the archetype.

>>173200000
>like a proxy, it protects your shit by sacrificing other shit.
Nice.

>>173199756
>You can send 1 monster from your field or hand to the Graveyard; add this card from your Graveyard to your hand.

Like ANY monster? god damn it, every deck running the same fuckng engine format, here we go again, and this means you can run the dragon link without drawbacks, fuck you konami, FUCK. YOU.

https://twitter.com/yugioh_0701
This account leaked every single Stargrail before the event/video happened. There's still a field spell left according to him.

>>173199756
Inferno Reckless Summon with Starelic “Stargrail”
Pop pop pop, watching the extra deck drop

>>173199756
What the hell is this deck's theme?
Does it want to be a Link spam or does it want to shut out the opponent?
This reeks of DT design.

>>173200000
checked

>>173200000
>ATK 1400
>Shitty effect
I got hyped for nothing.

>>173200259
Why not both?

>>173200000
is this not just a better Stargrail Shrine Maiden Eve?

>>173199756
>>(1) During either player’s turn, if a monster is Special Summoned from the Extra Deck: You can Tribute this card; send that monster to the Graveyad.
yamero

>>173200213
>field spell
Of course

>>173200000
Alright card, more generic than Honeybot.

Also checked.

>>173200000
>those quints
HOLY SHIT KEK JUST CHOSE THE NEW MEMELORD
Proxy dragon confirmed to be the next meme card, everybody hail proxy dragon

>>173200321
isn't it still a generic <- -> link 2?

>>173200000
Could be usable in trickstars along with agent venus or photon sanctuary.

>>173200402
that summon negation is worse than rai-oh's (doesn't even negate desu) and it's a tribute summon

>>173200604
It's an easily special summoned monster that can send your OWN cards to the grave which in turn triggers their effects.

>>173200000
Welp it's a generic Link 2 if you want to attempt to keep your non-link decks alive

Other than that eh.

I just want to go back to play the game I did in highschool... Why are there so many retarded add ons...

>>173201020
Oh yes, let's go back to the broken days of CED and Yata-Lock and Metamorphosis.

Or do you want to go back further to the days of F/S beatdown decks? So much fun.

>>173201020
Don't worry about it, none of those matter now besides Links and those are easy enough to understand. orange/green cards, purple cards and white cares don't really need to be understood but you should study the black cards, they're the second strongest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUzmdOpFMqw&t=53s
>Go to YouTube
>See this on my feed
>"No Pauses"
>Half the video is paused
>First comment is him complaining that it's garbage
>The rest of the comments proves his fans can't read
Any reliable place where I can find good replays? This is the only guy I can think of and he's actual cancer with an even more cancerous following

>>173201351
Nips and chinks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGThq8Cql4
BUY LINKS

>>173201351
>half the video is deck doing nothing
>rest of the video is him complaining deck is garbage
Sounds like your regular shinobirds gameplay

>>173201020
you mean frogs FKO, teledad with its retarded ignition priority, or makyura FKO? either way fuck you buddy and your uninteractive one sided format
>hurr hurr hurr muh mechanicalchaser hurr hurr summoned skull beatdown ban cydra

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>>173199756
The grail's (1) effect really doesn't seem to be all that. It might be nice on occasion and you might get some use of it. But by the end of the day it's really only a level 5 0/0 monster on your opponent's turn until they summon a monster from the extra deck, if you just leave it on the field and then pass the turn to your opponent.

And it also seems like a huge waste to do so. Rather you'd want to do something like
Summon a normal monster.
Make Imduk with it.
Tribute Imduk for the grail using the extra summon Imduk provides.
Summon another Stargrail from your hand with Imduk's effect.
Make Aurum or something using your grail and the Stargrail.

And bam! Now you've got two Starelics straight from your deck onto the field alongside your Link. And then you can banish it on your next turn for Aegis or something and recover your cards.
So really. The grail does look like a great card. But not so much because of its (1) effect. Though then again. It wouldn't surprise me if the other Starelics have similar stun effects, in which case you might be able to build a more wholesome protection with it. But by itself, I'd rather focus on its (2) effect.

Of course. If you use Aurum's effect you could revive it to the field by the end and benefit from both effects.

>>173200735
it has left/right markers so it sucks in non link decks

>>173201508
>Links
>In Pro
Have the Chinese done it? Is it happening?

>>173200807

>>173201841
eh, quasar kinda needed something like it because it just has to take THREE link zones

>>173200360
Two Maiden Eves becomes the equivalent of a Melodious Lock.
Proxy Dragon not really. Not that a Melodious Lock is particularly impressive or anything.

>>173201918
I think they are alpha on salvation

>>173201508
Heroes will save yugioh, judai best boy. GX best ygo confirmed

>>173201508
>Hey guys will soon release the YGOPRO download with the summons links, but there are still some "BUGS" to be resolved to wait. Thanks for watching <3
So is it for real?

>we now live in an age where a hand of 5 normal monsters can make real fields
Wew.

>>173202756
dude... zombies

>>173202661
We've known the nips have had Links on pro since yesterday. So yes

>>173202661
Yes, it's real. They've got bugs to work through and they have to wait for code of duelists and this month's VJUMP so the new update with Links will likely be sometime in May at best and June at worse especially for the android version. Nobody's seen Banana in ages he might be dead.

>>173202881
>the nips
the chinks

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>>173202756
>Main deck monster can actually be relevant
Aromage deck I've been working is going in the garbage but at least I can keep the rogue dream alive with pic related

>>173203000
>banana
>dead
can we have make a pasta of this?

>>173202881
>since yesterday
Oh. I have missed that somehow.

>>173203075
are you mixing aromage with triamids?

When will Percy copy the Chinese / Japanese and use their Link code?

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>tfw too intelligent to play pendulums

>>173203243
>>173203243
When Code of Duelists comes ou so he has cards to actually put into the system.

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>Each Stargrail has its own attribute
I kind of want to find a way to fit Dark Doriado into the deck.

lets project the fandom of your most hated archtype by using muh', I will start
>muh' ratpier

>>173203196
Tried and failed miserably, I've got a Brilliant Triamid and Control Triamid deck that can function pretty well but can brick just as easily. If anyone's got any (good) suggestions on what to try mixing next I'm open to suggestions

>>173203440
digital bugs with skull flames

>>173203431
muh' milling into lucksacks

>>173203361
did people manage her for invoke or drop?

>>173200000
Quints confirm it.

>>173203431
>muh diagram

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this dude slaps your girl's ass, what do?

>Seihai Senshi Ningirsu / Stargrail Warrior Ningirsu
Generic non-targeting, non-destruction monster removal for the Links toolbox.

>>173204539
basically any deck will have access to non-targeting, non-destruction, havent konami learn a thing from castel/lightning?

>>173204832
Of course they have, that's why those cards are banned, right?

>People still haven't realized that Stargrails can Extra Link super fucking easy with Link Spider

>>173203316
We have 11 fully revealed already

>>173205164
How is it any more easy now than it was before Stargrails?

>>173205131
its not that they are ban worthy, but they alone started a powercreep race of non-targeting bosses and quick effect destruction, and now I wonder what kind of archtypes konami is gonna shit to keep up with ningirsu

>>173205342
The grails summoning for free when linked with.

>>173205264
Not quite enough, needs to be at least 20 so people can have a full link deck if they wanted.

>>173205164
Link Spider is pretty much obligatory for Star Grails. Imduk points up in the end anyway. As a monster Imduk may be great, but they still need Link Spider to actually link.

And yes. They vomit out monsters ridiculously well. So of course they can Extra Link.
If you make Link Spider and summon a Normal Monster and make Imduk with it and then normal summon another monster (or tribute summon the Starelic Grail) and then make a Link with Imduk and summon another monster from your hand. And then make new Imduks and another Link and vomit out the rest of your hand. And then you make new Links. And revive with Aurum when needed. And then plus off of Ningirsu so that you can vomit out new monsters again.

They're pretty free to do whatever.

>When a card or effect that targets a linked monster on the field is activated: You can send this card from your hand or field to the Graveyard; negate that activation, and if you do, destroy it.
When a card says "linked monster", does that include the Link monster itself, or only the monsters where the Link markers are pointing at?

So what kind of unbreakable board can Stargrails make? Where's the negation? What do they do when you normal summon one of your shitty normals and the summon is negated? Huh?

>>173205737
the latter

>>173205737
>does that include the Link monster itself
It does. It was in the master rule update from last week or the week before or whenever it was.
Which also means that Honeybot can protect Link Spider or whatever without even pointing at it.

>>173205473
>boss monster that is an Armades that is unaffected by the opponent, steals monsters attack and spins their cards during either players turn for no cost

>>173205784
They play a spell to summon another of their useful normals.

>>173205473
5000 attack armades is. banworthy.

>can't use their Stratos for either link 1 monster to summon the monster you just searched
I love anti-synergy! Thanks, Konami!

>>173204219
I laugh hat him because those duel disks are shitty.

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>>173203538
I have successfully made the worst zombie deck in existance

>>173206049
Which is why you summon any other monster first to summon Imduk or something first, and then summon Reese.

>>173205951
its usually a one shot gun, dies during your opponent's turn.
incredibly annoying? yeah, ban worthy? not really, also I think you cannot overlay into lightning without a free EMZ on the new rules

>>173205840
>Honeybot can protect Link Spider or whatever without even pointing at it.
No, you can't.
Being Linked is two-way, but being linked to isn't.
Just look at Maiden Eve.

>>173206106
honestly this should be a recurring theme on dng, we suggest a shitty deck and watch someone play it on pro until he wins, with the chat spam and shit

>>173206179
you can make lightning fine with the new rules, no problem.

Cucking floating and making everything need to have quick-removal effects as not even negation will work is singlehandedly forcing the game to powercreep much in the same way ark and castel did

all three if not more should go before we end up with another "Era" of nothing but rank 4

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>>173204539
>Gadget is 1-card Ningirsu with setup
Better than Castel.

What's the best Yugioh game AI?

>>173206359
>with setup
>actually requires resources
nigga please nothing outcreeps castel for removal

>>173206302
and now we have to deal with Stargrail Warrior Ningirsu, I wonder what kind of bullshit konami will come up with to play around the strongest destruction bar banishing face-down

>>173206287
I played 9 games against random ai and won four of them, not gonna lie if insects get more support digital bugs are fun game stealers
If anyone is willing to stream our bull crap I'll gladly keep attempting to make trash at least tier 2

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>you can revive Ningirsu using Aurum
>Ningirsu isn't hard OPT

>>173206418
what shit are you snorting? lightning can deal with untargetable shit and on top of that he cannot be cheese'd by battle traps and stop floating, how can castel top that?

>>173204219

Fuck man this guy is so fucking cool

>>173206226
>Just look at Maiden Eve.
What about her?
>(1) This linked card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects, also it cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects.
>(2) If a monster(s) in this card’s linked Zone would be destroyed by a card effect, you can send this card to the Graveyard instead.
And Honeybot reads
>Neither player can target monsters linked to this card with card effects, also those monsters cannot be destroyed by battle.

So if Maiden Eve is below Link Spider. Then Maiden Eve is a linked card due to being Linked with Link Spider. Even if Link Spider isn't in Eve's linked Zone
Likwise. If Honeybot is below Link Spider. Then Link Spider won't be able to be targeted or destroyed by battle, even if it is not in Honeybot's linked Zone.

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>the Starelic monster is also a Star Grail monster
>you can Machine Dupe it

>>173204219
Punch him in the face because his only card on the field is an Elemental HERO with no signs of a mask change in sight

>>173206565
Lightning can't punch S/T.

>>173206704
fair point

>>173206664
nigga post the name when its a card that new

>>173206634
Japanese wording
Eve uses リンク状態(Linked status)
Honeybot uses リンク先(front of Link marker)

>>173206634
See the different wording?
The (2) effect of Maiden Even is worded just like Honeybot protection.

You can't protect Link Spider above the Maiden Even using her (2) effect, just like how Honeybot can't protect Link Spider above it.

>>173206820
>Honeybot uses リンク先(front of Link marker)
Then why is the translation on the wiki so terrible?
It used to read Linked Zone. But then they changed it. Oh well.

>>173206842
>The (2) effect of Maiden Even is worded just like Honeybot protection.
Not going by the translations on the wiki. But it seems like said translations are shit. Someone should fix that.

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>>173206784
Seiibutsu – “Seihai” / Starelic “Stargrail”
Level 5 DARK Machine-Type Effect Monster
ATK 0
DEF 0

>>173206967
More like the Maiden Eve's (2) effect will be reworded to be just like Honeybot.
It's all because of that TCG Decode Talker pic.

>>173206664
>You can Special Summon 2 Stargrail monsters from your deck expect "Starelic Stargrail""

>>173206970
>it's literally the Grail (relic) itself
I find that very witty for some reason

So who is the strongest now?

XYZ+Links or Rituals?

>>173207189
isn't the grail either usually a cup or the arc of the covenant (I included the last one because that irked me about HOMMIII)

>>173207218
there's nothing a r4nk cant out

Summon Junk Synchron.
Special summon Priestess from the graveyard.
Make Imduk with her.
Tribute summon the grail by tributing Imduk.

Make Omega using Junk Synchron and the grail.
Summon the other Starelics using the grail's effect.

And now you can banish your grail on the next turn and return it to the graveyard afterwards. So that you can banish it again on the next turn. And the next, and the next.
+1 card each turn.

>>173207170
But you can Link it into Aurum.
Or SS it from hand using the Link's floating effect.
Meaning it won't be too much of a brick even if you do draw it.

>>173207336
bye bye omega?

>>173207218
I don't think most (read: r4) xyz are all that helped or hindered by links, so

links?
>>173207289
Knight of Destiny in defense mode

more practically, Master Piss with a live effect

So how can Stargrails get over Master P?

>Scapegoat would be 1-card Melodious lock if Link Spider isn't EARTH
Argh.

>>173207585
I think only kaijus and the unaffected MP card can out it, Would be surprised if true dracos arent hit in favour of pushing links

>>173207585
Isn't the Link-3 effect work just like Tower?
As in, it bypass immunity against monster's effect because it's a Player's action or something?

>>173207802
>implying melodious lock is still relevant in the current state of the game

>>173207947
What are you gonna do, spend 2-card to kill my 1-card field?

>>173207453
I wasn't doubting Grail's viability in the deck. I was pointing out that specific play he stated was illegal. Sadly, retards like >>173207336 are Illiterate so there's no point in helping them.

>Proxy dragon sucks.

>>173207107
>that TCG Decode Talker pic
You mean the fake one with the messed up terminology?

>>173200000
checked
also those quints confirms Proxy Dragon to be a useful staple

>>173208053
I thought he just mistyped and actually means SS 2 Stargrail monster using Starelic Stargrail effect.

>>173208053
>Sadly, retards like >>173207336 are Illiterate so there's no point in helping them.
What's wrong with >>173207336?

>>173207905
basically nothing actually does that and neither does this

>>173208306
>I thought he just mistyped and actually means SS 2 Stargrail monster using Starelic Stargrail effect.
I can confirm that was indeed what I meant. The effect still triggers on it being used as a Synchro material. Which was my point pretty much.

>>173208128
>Proxy -> Gaia -> Proxy -> Gaia -> Proxy
>Reckless on last Proxy summon
>Link-6
>Emeral the Gaia in grave
>Link-9
Waiting for the day this play will be relevant.
I mean, the fucking shit is generic as fuck, you can summon it in the middle of summoning Decode/Gaia/Firewall, then you can summon it from grave en masse.

>>173208487
>Reckless Summon
>Relevant

>>173208459
And to elaborate. The initial translation as seen in >>173199756, did indeed actually read
>You can Special Summon 2 “Starelic” monsters from your Deck
They changed it.

>>173208393
What are you talking about?
Tower and Dakini sent 1 monster bypass monster effect immunity.

>>173208615
>Summoner's Art
>Relevant

>Fossil Dig
>Relevant

>My Body as a Shield
>Relevant

>Forbidden Apocrypha
>Relevant

Just because it's shit now doesn't always mean it'll be shit forever.

>>173207336

Omega is limited so japan don't give no fucks.

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>>173199756
Destroy the grail.
All the evils of this world pours out in the form of two new monsters.

YAMERO!

>>173208917
It doesn't need more than 1 Omega to works.

>>173208917
Omega being limited doesn't change the usefulness an awful lot. Sure it prevents the triple "say goodbye to your hand" Omega.
But you still have one in your extra deck, and when Omega is in the graveyard Omega can still shuffle itself right back into the extra deck to be summoned again.

So you can still use Omega to recycle cards. It's still very much a useful card.

>>173208227
Yeah, but somehow everyone and their mother use that terminology everywhere now in wiki.
Even though we aren't even sure if that pic is real.

>>173208973
i want to pour my evil liquid on saber!

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>>173208973

>>173209107
are overlords still randomly running actual psyframe gears?

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>Gaia is the only Machine-type Link monster
>no Rock-type Link monster yet
Release more, Konami.
RELEASE MORE.

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>>173209452
Yes?

>>173209107

But /dng told me all synchros are dead forever with links.

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>You can summon Infinity using grails
The horror. It's real.

>>173195149
Fucked up again, OP.
Reminder for OP next thread.

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)
●OCG: Collectors Pack 2017 (May 13rd)
●OCG: Cyverse Link Structure Deck (June 17th)
●OCG: Circuit Break (July 8th)

●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 14th)
●TCG: Maximum Crisis (May 5th)
●TCG: Dimensional Guardians (May 26th)
●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)
●TCG: Starter Deck 2017 (July 21st)

Tengu can be used for links can't he? If so a single tengu could easily be a 3 link.
Poor guy's going to get semi'd again isn't he.

>>173209810
>you can now Link him into Proxy for 2-card Firewall
Ah.
Damn.

Stargrails are fucking alright

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>activates Hangar, search B/C
>NS Silver/Gold, SS B/C, attach the other
>Link Thrasher and B/C into Maiden or Proxy
>C search A, B SS A
>Proxy/Maiden +A into Decode
>contact ABC
Not so sure about the B SS A parts, but it should totally works if you have one other pieces in hand.
What's the chance Hangar stay at 3 here?
What's the chance Hangar go back to unlimited there?

>>173210206
I fucked up, you can't Link into Maiden, only into Proxy.
Also, it's Linking Silver and B/C into Proxy.

https://ygorganization.com/cotd-stargrail-deck-event-cards-part-2/
>Seiibutsu to no Kaikou / Chance Meeting with the Starelic
>Spell Field
>(1) “Stargrail” monsters on the field gain 300 ATK and DEF.
>(2) Once per turn, if a face-up “Stargrail” monster you control leaves the field by an opponent’s card effect, or is destroyed by battle: You can target 1 “Stargrail” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it in Defense Position.
It's shit.

>>173211080
>(1) “Stargrail” monsters on the field gain 300 ATK and DEF.
It's gonna be the next Master Peace, huh.

>>173211080
>Special Summon it in Defense Position
So no link revival?

>>173211670
That's why you use the trap.
>Seiibutsu no Michibiki / Starelic’s Guidance
>Trap Normal
>(1) Banish 1 “Starelic” monster face-up from your field or from your hand, then target 2 monsters in your Graveyard; Special Summon them, but they cannot attack this turn.

I wish they have a Starelic searcher that isn't the slow Grail.

>>173211912
>Trap
>requires another specific monster
>banishes said monster when it's more useful in the GY
TRASH

>>173212164
But I can summon Spell Canceler AND Jinzo with that!

I know I shouldn't use YGOPro to test things like this, but I gotta find an answer.

Necrovalley, since the errata, now prevents any effect that moves a card in the Grave elsewhere unless it specifically says it ignores Necrovalley.

But Legendary Exodia Incarnate seems to ignore Necrovalley in the program even though the Tips section of the Wiki for Necrovalley says it should stop the mandatory EP effect of adding a Forbidden One card from the Grave to the hand.

Is this an error in YGOPro? Or is the Wiki wrong?

I am aware the former is FAR more likely.

>>173213524
>Unaffected by other cards' effects

>>173213524
>Tips section of the Wiki
That's even less reliable than testing in pro.
Necrovalley's effect negates on resolution, but you still make an attempt to fetch card from grave.
And since Exod Incarnate is unaffected, the effect still goes through.

>>173213713
>>173213898

I am happy to have this cleared up.

Thank you.

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>want to build some form of heroes, primarily based around the ones like Absolute Zero, Shining, ect. while also using masked heroes. As little xyz as possible preferably
>can't afford toads
>everything I build feels like it's supposed to be awesome heroes but worse
Any advice?

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>>173214612
Abuse Vyon and make Trinity OTK or something.

>>173214612
Look up hero beat then add masked heroes.

Can anyone think of some decent draw power that meshes well in gouki's aside from maxx c and upstart hoban?

>>173215842
Pot of greed

>>173215842
D-Hero?

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New Dragons/Zombies structure deck duo, when?

>>173216674
A long ass time. Probably late into Vrains where retarded Link climb bosses run rampant, and Firewall Dragon got banned for some FTK shit that won worlds.

>>173216976
I won't believe Firewall Dragon will be ever touched. I never see a protagonist ace monster in the banlist.

>>173217059
I've never seen my dick in your ass but there's a first time for everything

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>>173198489
>Build Dork Magician deck
There's your problem.

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>>173199756
Holy shit that level 5, it's first effect triggers his second one giving you disruption AND link fodder.

Japan thinks Stargrails are irredeemable trash so far.
They're probably right. Not enough special summoning from the deck, no negation, no unbreakable boards, no way to play through an opponent's board. These things are barely Crystron tier.

>>173201508
invoker is going to get banned once links hit desu

>>173219380
They're the Link equivalent of Igknights, of course they're going to be shit.

Structure Deck spoilers, when?

>>173219457
Next month

>>173219441
Are they going to have their moment in the sun like Igknights, then?

>>173219380
We were already told that COTD would be mostly bad cards and that Link as a mechanic wouldn't become relevant until July. Until then it's True Draco meta.

>>173219554
You mean shitty Niconico FTKs?

>>173219542
The decks come out next week.

>>173219856
Oh, I thought you meant the link structure deck

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lmao ez game

>>173220112
>traps
Nice multi-turn combo.

Am I the only one who thinks their newer Links with more generic summoning requirements made Stargrails a lot more promising?

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>level 5 machine

>>173222040
Reminds you of -800, doesn't it?

Ban all of those:
>purple cards
>level 5 machine
>level 2 and 4 water
>"you can also XYZ summon"

>>173223486
Level 2 WATER monsters are not the requirements for FROGGED.com.

>>173219380
Just wait until konami gives them a continuos s/t xd

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>>173207218
>rituals
>relevant

I used to thought that Trickstars were pretty strong, but after seeing star relics, I am starting to think they are on the weaker side.

>>173223961
But stargrails are trash.

>>173216674
After spellcaster/warrior structure deck.

https://ygorganization.com/april_foolage/
It's 5 days after April 1st and I finally got fooled

>>173223874
Learn to read. He/she say strongest, not relevant.

>>173195149
keep going on promoting your shitty fanfic no one bother read, memelord

>>173225471
>Rituals
>Strong

>>173225874
>What is Esprit

>>173225354
>tfw those Volcanics weren't real
I mean, the deck is as good as it's ever been now with Goods and the Paleo support but it's still not worth playing.

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>>173225874
Just look at this guy.
He's so buff he can use big ass cannon easily bigger than himself.

>>173226079
Anon, please, I can't shitpost lols and keks enough without being warned.

>>173226253
Dont you have any other reason to live than being an edgelord?
Nekroz were strong enough to even say fuck you to Evilswarm. And those were BROKEN xyz.
Just stop with your bullshit... Actually keep posting. So you can get your ass banned.

>>173226528
>So who is the strongest now?
>Rituals
>No
>Bu-but they were strong once
Lovin' every laugh.

>>173223961
I actually think Trickstars are likely to be better at this stage. They seem to have more options and have the potential to either beat over, or simply ignore, Master Peace and stuff.
And it looks like Stargrails at this point would struggle far more with that kind of thing.

Trickstars also look better at dealing with backrow.

>>173226647
Trickstars has better legs, too.

>>173226618
You clearly are hopeless.
Try to not answer my posts ever again, dumb edgelord.

>>173223961
Trickstars are simpler and more consistent, with higher potential to be a splashable engine.

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Seihai no Yousei Ries / Stargrail Fairy Ries
Level 2 LIGHT Fairy-Type Effect Monster
ATK 100
DEF 2000
You can only use each of this card name’s effects once per turn.
(1) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 “Stargrail” monster from your Deck to your hand.
(2) If this card is in your Graveyard: You can send 1 monster from your field or hand to the Graveyard; add this card from your Graveyard to your hand.

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Seiibutsu to no Kaikou / Chance Meeting with the Starelic
Spell Field
(1) “Stargrail” monsters on the field gain 300 ATK and DEF.
(2) Once per turn, if a face-up “Stargrail” monster you control leaves the field by an opponent’s card effect, or is destroyed by battle: You can target 1 “Stargrail” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it in Defense Position.

>>173228430
Is she like, crying blood or something? The greyscale makes this image look rather ominous.

>>173228430
>(2) If this card is in your Graveyard: You can send 1 monster from your field or hand to the Graveyard; add this card from your Graveyard to your hand.
shiiiet

>>173228430
Everybody gets a Stratos! Except the TCG!

>>173201792
Seiibutsu – “Seihai” / Starelic “Stargrail”
Level 5 DARK Machine-Type Effect Monster
ATK 0
DEF 0
You can only use this card name’s (2) and (3) effects once per turn each.
(1) During either player’s turn, if a monster is Special Summoned from the Extra Deck: You can Tribute this card; send that monster to the Graveyad.
(2) If this face-up card that was Normal Summoned/Set leaves the field: You can Special Summon 2 “Stargrail” monsters from your Deck, except “Starelic “Stargrail””.
(3) During your Main Phase, except during the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard; add 1 “Starelic” card from your Deck to your hand.

>>173228430
It's safe to assume that the grail relic is going to be the only Starelic monster that's also a Stargrail monster, right?

Will the TCG get Lyca, Hammerkong and the Predaplant engine before Links hit?

>>173229970
probably not :/

>>173229970
Will May 5th come before June 23rd?

>>173230025
>:/
Kill yourself Redditor.

Ahh, I wanna summon taste a synchro summons

>>173230180
>Kill yourself Redditor.
I don't browse but apparently you do.

I pulled a "That Grass Looks Greener" from one of my blister packs I bought a week ago.
Sell now or keep? Seems like the only card in the set worth money.

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>starts with Lonefire+Ferret
>ends with pic related
Is this a good field?
I can maybe change the Shekh into 2 Firewall, but I can't be bothered.
And yes, everything used in the combo is unlimited in both TCG and OCG, and it just need 4 Link, Missus, Proxy, Decode, and Firewall.

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Is this the best a Spellbook.dek can be these days? Is there no room for High Priestess or even reaper?

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>>173230487

Sold off all my extra deck cards for 189 bucks. I am now ready to buy links,konami. I don't feel proud of selling off those dimensional dragons, Heroes,Signer dragons, Numbers and Pendulum Magicians but whatever.

I really dont like Links. They feel/play almost exactly like synchros, it feels like they just took over their spot entirely and the next 3 years are gonna be a repeat of the 5Ds era but way less fun.

>>173223961
I have yet to see a good combo using the trickstars

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>>173230487
>>173230883
Never mind.
In hindsight, this field is better, just need to add another Firewall. Even though up to 4 free targeting protection is good, Firewall disruption seems better.
Both Firewall still has their effect.

>>173230883
Jeff Jones combo but instead of summoning Decode using Seraphinite and Missus, you summon Proxy Dragon instead using Seraphinite and Trick Clown.
Place Proxy Dragon in Missus' LZ so you can SS 3 monster using Ferret.
Maybe there's better combo out there, because Ferret is just that broken.

>>173210206
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't sell my ABC's just yet.

So why is that Chinese build of pro with Link monsters locked behind a fucking facebook group?

>>173231118
They're actually better than fusion,synchro,xyz and pendulum,anon, they are a cummlation of everything everyone hated about those summoning methods made flesh, or rather cardboard in this case. Links do not require a fusion card, a tuner monster, matching levels or correct scales and as such, you don't really need to focus your deck on something you don't like just to run them. It's great, it's basically an apology to the original game players for all the bullshit they've had to put up with until now. The majority have spoken and I'm sorry you fusion,synchro,xyz and pendulum players got fucked but it's kinda your fault for how dickish you acted for the past 7 years.

>>173231408
>pendulum
They are just better than fusion, xyz and synchro. They are still inherently different from pendulum and rituals.

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So now with Links my Yugi structure deck will be top tier?

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>>173231408
With the Extra Deck slain, the maindeck heroes will thrive.

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>>173232207
It's wonderful.

Solar Boy Django
Level 4
Light/Warrior/Effect
1900/1200
When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, add one "Gun de Sol" from your deck or graveyard to your hand. During your End Phase, increase the attack of this card by 1000 points. During your Standby phase, decrease the attack of this card by 1000 points.

Gun de Sol
Equip Spell
Can only be Equipped to "Solar Boy Django. It gains the following effect(s):
•Cannot be destroyed by battle with a Dark monster
•When a card equipped with this card gains attack points, banish one card on the field.

Pile Driver!!
Quick Play Spell
All monsters on the field become Dark-type, and lose 2000 attack. Monsters with 0 attack are banished.

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>Proxy Dragon is V-Jump promo
>it's the only generic Link-2 monster
It will get imported in COTD, r-right guys?
Tewart won't cuck us out of this best link access for every deck ever, r-right?

>>173232553
>First complete deck I ever played with was a U.A deck that a friend loaned to me
I feel it's time to make one for myself, for old times sake.

>>173230954
>implying you had any cards to begin with

>>173232870
I hope you're willing to drop for an invoker and 3 burial goods, anon.

>>173198967
Jinzo as an Archetype is shit though.

Depending on the format, Jinzo the card is good. Hell he's always a good side deck option.

>>173232953
Do you really need Invoker in U.A.? Goods and RotA seemed enough to me.

>>173232869
No anon just...let's hold hands and go back to sleep...

>>173204219
call him a cheater because disk have no link zone

>>173233042
Invoker is really nice to have, but not necessary. It's more copies of midfielder, which is never a bad thing.

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It's my turn to shine now

>Stargrails are perfect for using Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan with
Memetechs

>>173232869
Link 2 is bounded to be the most supported Link.
Soon you won't even miss it.

>>173233229
I miss Bang so much.

>>173232869
This card will be ridiculous once we get a generic Link1 with a down link other than Link Spider.
Metalfoes can make this easily though.

>>173230954
I have a Dark Magician core. I admit that I want Spellbook and Link more than DM but I actually like them too.
...should I still sell them? I mean its not like it is the only core in the entire world. I can get it again. But I still want more the spellbook prophecy and Links

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>>173232207
>With the Extra Deck slain

>>173233607
We won't.
Generic Link 1 would turn every deck into neo-Zoodiacs.

Link 1 monster must either be limited to normal monsters, archetype monsters, point up or not allow Link summon using it as material.

>>173233607
>Gofu

>>173233726
I'll build Domain Dracos just for you.

>>173233858
I wouldn't be surprised if we got one with low ATK and no effect.

>>173231118
>a repeat of the 5Ds era but way less fun.
Spamming the Ice Barrier dragons, and having Black Rose blow up the entire field every turn. In addition to fuckers everywhere trying to force the accel synchro meme.

Was not fun. The 5D's era was shit.

>>173234020
>Summon The Agent of Creation - Venus
>Special 3 Mystical Shine Balls
>Make Link Spider with one of them
>Overlay the other 2 into Socuteboss
>Destroy Link Spider with Socuteboss
>Summon a Link monster with Venus
1 card ED lock, Agents will be good again.

>>173234387
I think that wouldn't work since after you summon Spider the other EDZ goes to your opponent. So you can't link something in there.

>>173234495
It goes to your opponent till it's open

>>173233942
SS Gofu
make tokens
make Link Spider
SS Metalfoe from hand
make 2nd Link Spider with Metalfoe
make
make Proxy Dragon in the linked main monster zone with both spiders
3 open zones to summon extra deck monsters, with gofu and a token still on board, a Metalfoe in ED, and no normal yet used

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Now, with the existence of Proxy Dragon, ABC is somewhat back to their prime, if not for Hangar at 1 in OCG.
So if your deck exist on ABC era and doesn't do shit, well, too bad, chance are they also won't do shit in Link era.

So just end that meme of DM being meta, Red-eyes being meta, Nekroz being meta, and Herald being meta.
It's getting stale as fuck.

How do we use "Link" in Shinobird deck?

>>173234661
Proxy is completely generic, you can just go gofu>spider>proxy and have 2 open zones
I sure hope you're not trying to summon to the mmz with a material from the EMZ

>>173234851
hope your tokens live
use Niki as material for free draws

>>173234846
ABC's are shit though

>>173233942
Gofu enables a lot of bullshit under new rules, like turn 1 Stardust Warrior, Chronicle Spark or Quasar/Sifr/Blazar along Level Eater.

>>173234851
Shinobird doesn't need extra, apart from the occasional Norden into Fairy Cheer for extra draw or Titanic in desperate situations.

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>>173235031
I don't know about newer deck, but they're surely better than all deck before RATE.

>>173235061
The more time passes, the better gofu gets

>>173234957
For some reason I read it as 2 Link monsters, that's even easier.
>spoiler
Can you not do this? I haven't read the rules very carefully yet, but I assumed it would work the same way as replacing an EMZ monster with another by using it as a material.

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>>173235031
They're still better than DM, Red-eyes, Mermail, and other deck before them.

And even if it's not meta, then surely other weaker deck also won't be meta.

>>173235238
Basically, after you put the materials in grave, you look at the field to see if there's a linked zone. Just remember, you can't use spider in the EMZ to put honeybot into a MMZ unless there's another link in the MMZ

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>>173235238
There's simple explanation along with how you can use 2 Honeybot to summon Decode.
Can't use LZ of the material.

>>173235330
>It's better than all these bad decks
Are you fucking smart

>>173235618
No. I'm LG. (:V)

>>173235618
Tell that to the fucking memer saying DM will be meta post-Link.

>>173235451
>>173235469
Got it.

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>>173235124
>tfw we never had meta darklords or D/D/D
>all we got was stunshit paleo and abc stunshit
TCGs meta is so fucking ass

>>173235964
DM will only be good once Speed Duels become the official format

Make a CaC of a monster.

>>173236137
>not Exodia FTK

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>>173226747
Stay buttmad ritualcunt

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>NS TGU, SS Sangan
>Link both into Proxy Dragon
>Sangan search Backup Secretary
>Backup Secretary SS itself because it's not an activated effect
>Link Proxy and Secretary into Decode
TGU to 3 never ever.

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>>173234020
>low ATK Link
I've been waiting for this!

NS vanilla, LS Imduk
NS Grail by tributing Imduk, SS monster
Grail and monster LS into Aurum
Grail SS Protector Dragon and Reese, add something
Aurum eff by destroying Dragon, summon back Grail
Aurum and Reese into Decode Joker, summon what you added
banish Dragon in Grave to SS vanilla, and LS into Eve/Proxy

Some basic shit.

>>173236873
If it's just a Link 1 monster, then it's just the same of summoning any other monster.

>>173237045
But what if Link 2+ Relinquished

>>173237020
3-card combo?
Granted it's just any Stargrail, the Grail, and any vanilla, but eh.
That's why nip say that it's currently shit as a deck. That Link-3 might be used as Link toolbox though.

I have a question. What combo would be the most basic ones for decks outside of archetypes like Stargrail?

>>173238034
Upstart to draw one card, then use that card.
There a combo ;)

>>173238034
>read your card
>do shit written in the card
>set S/T as necessary
>end turn
There you go.

>>173205586
I hope Percy doesn't use this logic because we won't have Links until the 2nd set.

>>173238348
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>forgot to specify Link basic combos because of the fucking cellphone screwing up
This is why I really need my own PC... Good thing my cellphone didnt broke after throwing out to the stone floor for this.