/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #52

>>173079919
First for N2 a cute!

>>173079909
>"Rejoice, YoRHa No. 9 Type S. Your wish will finally come true."

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2B9S ARE BEST COUPLE!

Just got ending E

Why was this hyped up so much this ending was bullshit? I was expecting an epic final boss but it was just a cheap credits shooter minigame. And then the save deletion thing that Taro has already used before.

A is the best ending desu

how bad is near atomato without a controller?

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I need fanart of Pod 042 taking A2 on a dinner date

>>173080440
Lol

Sorry you didn't like it

Hahahaha

>>173079919
What does Stun value mean? I don't understand what Stun Up does exactly.

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>>173080440

>>173080498
not too bad
evasion is slightly fucked up, because double-tap-w/a/s/d sometimes failed
you are restricted to 8 directions in top-down-shooter sequences, but that's a small inconvenience
no debug mode for you tho

>>173080307
imagine being a person who posts this shit

Two or three times during the game, the Commander expresses her worry/gratitude toward 2B and 9S SPECIFICALLY, even when YoRHa members are involved somehow. Is this and the part where 2B gets really intense over Commander sinking with the ship just ways of create muh cinema, or does it mean those three have a more special relationship?

For example, when you kill the two Engels machines assaulting the city near the beginning of the game and one of them smashes the ground to reveal the alien ship, the commander responds with "The aliens who haven't shown themselves in hundreds of years...". That sentence is obviously there just to make a cinematic moment easier to understand.

So we can all agree that the first Nier is superior right? Better story, characters, world, twist. Automata has slightly better combat but it still ends up being a chore like the first game since it's easy as fuck with the dodge spamming and healing items. Anyways It just feels like there was barely any character development compared to Nier. I didn't even feel anything when 2B died.

But Emil's questline absolutely destroyed me. Definitely the best part in the entire game.

>>173080440
Yeah, it was really limp but at this point LE FEELS memes have overridden any sort of honest criticism of Taro's work. He's hit that tipping point where people respond to his work in the way they think they're expected to rather than because it made them feel that way.

whats the most efficient way of farming large gears?

>>173080763
Yep. That about sums it up. Would've been hard to dethrone the [everything that isn't gameplay] of Nier, so it's especially a shame that the combat in Automata, the only thing that had a damn good chance of outshining the original, is only marginally better.

>>173080759
Nah.

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>>173080756
Don't be mean. Everyone needs a little 2B and 9S in their lives.

>>173080763
I liked the story stuff in the first nier better but I thought the style of this was way better. Machines are way more memorable visually than the shades and even if the actual fights weren't the best thing most of the bosses were really interesting to look at. Also the music was better overall even though my favorite tracks are still from the original.

>>173081230
oh

>>173081481
>implying the bosses in Nier weren't waaaaay more memorable

>>173080307
i need the full image. fuck this world.

>>173081408
The amount of cute art those two are getting is through the roof.

>>173081730
On an emotional level yes, but I think they look worse overall, it's completely a matter of opinion.

Shove your greentext up your ass, it's not like automata is bad just because it isn't the original.

>>173080498
I found it completely unplayable but that's just me. I'm sure if you fuck with the key bindings enough it's tolerable.

>>173082151
not enough to satify me autism.
need
fucking
more

>>173081730

For the most part aside from a couple exceptions. Simone for example is more memorable than anything in the first game.

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>>173082123
That is the full image. Unfortunately.

>>173082151
I know. Have another one.

>>173082309
I wouldn't say more memorable than anything in the first, but you're right, hers is an excellent design.

>>173082157
No, it's bad in its own right.

>>173080763
you can impose some restrictions on combat so it would feel more fun tho. no dodge spamming, for example. I was somewhat thrilled when I fought Big Machine Father Servo underleveled and without dodge spam, because that fag could OHKO me and I had to put 10-15 minutes of slashing and stabbing to put him down
I was retarded enough not to notice or remember parry tutorial in MGR:Revengeance, so I got through the game without it's most crucial mechanic. it was still very fun
combat mechanics are actually fun in this game, that's a plus
in terms of story and characters - Taro told you that story was shit, it's your problem that your expectations were high
9S's story was entertaining enough to watch tho

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>>173082298

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lol I knew this was gonna be my favorite part of automata's release is all the nier 1 fanboys clamoring to be as hipster as possible in how much the ADORE nier over automata

>>173080763
>>173082691
also automata gave me nice amount of feels (in addition to fun combat) because I liked most of the characters so I'm pretty much satisfied with it

>>173082505
Oh shit you're right

There's actually nothing good at all about automata, man I can't believe I thought some of it was good lol

Thanks for correcting me my man!

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>>173082713
hipstershits who can't enjoy more than one thing at a time and want to be as much of a contrarian garbage as possible are a usual sign around these parts, just ignore poor bastards

>>173082695
thanks anon you have extended my life for about 10 minutes. Any drawfags here wanting to drawn them doing lewd things? nude handholding on bed

>>173082989
>handholding
you sick bastard

>>173082713
>>173082923
>H-Hipsters!
Sad that people are trotting this tired old insult out in current year.

Automata was my first foray into the series and it's a massive disappointment in basically every regard.

How does 9S hacking work to control enemies? I don't think I've ever seen the option outside a few times

>>173083094
>Automata was my first foray into the series and it's a massive disappointment in basically every regard.
Why were your standards so exceptionally high for a taro game? You're literally fucking retarded kid, don't ever reply to me again.

>>173083114
You have to sneak up on them, once they detect you the only option is to damage them.

>>173083094
You're a disappointment to your mom

>>173083114
You can't do it after they've noticed you. Gotta be stealthy

>>173083114
The machine you want cannot be aggro'd to you.
Doing that gives you all the extra hack options.

>>173083114
yo sneak that shit, snake

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>>173083114
you need to hack something before it notices you
but here's a thing - you can hack weak robot and use it to hack stronger

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>>173082989
That's pretty lewd request, anon.

Is there a relation between the Logic Virus of the machines and the Red Eye disease? Or is Taro simply using similar motifs but with no connection between them?

>>173083206
>Why were your standards so exceptionally high for a taro game?
You're literally fucking retarded if you think people wouldn't have high expectations for the most highly esteemed action game developer in the industry. To argue otherwise is seriously fucking stupid. Taro's hackneyed writing is par for the course, I'll admit.

>>173083328
>Taro simply using similar motifs but with no connection between them
yes

>>173082151
It's a bit overwhelming. I could browse the stuff for hours and there'd still be truckloads more that I'd never get to see.

When can you start killing the rabbit in the amusement park? Even during route C it didn't seem to do anything

>>173083401
>most highly esteemed action game developer in the industry
you're actually fucking retarded for believing this? platinum? the most highly esteemed action game developer in the industry? are you fucking kidding me? fuck off back to /v/eddit

>>173083328
It's doubly convenient because the red eye flash has been a thing for Platinum since MGR.

>>173083487
proxy hacking will do the thing
prepare your ass for metal rabbit dick

>>173083479
that because they are a really lovely couple and they suffered a lot, now they deserve to be happy together.

>>173082309
Simone and Eve were the best boss fights imo.

Shadowlord is one of my favorite boss fights of all time though, the actual combat was shit but the music, the dialogue, the Weiss. Dad vs dad, the emotion was just on another level.

>>173083517
You're actually fucking retarded for ending a declarative statement with a question mark? Their name is synonymous with quality, unless you're gonna argue that some plebshit dev has more clout than them, in which case yeah, I can see your taste being that shitty.

>go back to vee / plebbit tier insults
Oh shit you're legitimately retarded, I'm so sorry.

>>173083802
>go back to vee / plebbit tier insults
>gets mad at improper punctuation
Literally worse than /v/eddit tier insults because you're some pseudo grammar nazi on an azerbaijini ham radio enthusiast image board now listen to what I say and never reply to me again you fuck faced nigger I don't want to hear your retarded fucking statements about how much platinum cock you gargle and I fucked your mom

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>2014: "I spent 20 years and I failed"

>2017:


Man this is so heartwarming.

>>173083517
>Platinum
>descended from Clover, developer of some of the most highly lauded action games ever made
>creators of genre-defining game Bayonetta
>not one of, if not THE, most highly esteemed action game developers in the industry
You're a joke, kid.

>>173084192
>t-they're from clover so all they're games are masterpieces and literally impeccable
please shut the fuck up you make actual platinum fans embarrassed

>>173083328
The machines seem to have assimilated a lot of Project Gestalt's essential data and have used it to create simulations within the network. I suppose it might be possible that they had at least partially simulated the White Chlorination Syndrome as well. And that could have been used to develop some logic viruses.

There's a lot of ifs and maybes in that line of thought, though.

>>173084065
H-he's going to make it right guys?

>>173080307
Y'know you're here every thread.

I respect that.

How in the hell do you have time for that though?

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>>173080307
Hell yeah.

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>>173083310
Clinking is prohibited

>>173083701
>Weiß are you OK?!
>I'm fine, I'm fine... Okay... no, I'm not.

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I feel like I'm really just here for the handholding
I didn't expect this game to be such a romance

>>173084065
I've seen the presentation and I wonder if he still thinks he has failed. Some part of me hopes he does and gets an offer to make another game.

I want to see how far he can go.

>ywn get drunk with devpop
why live

>>173084065

I hope this means DLCs.

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>>173082989
not drawfag but here

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Auguste's "arc" sort of doesn't sit right with me. It's a very cute thing at the start of the game and something to chuckle at during the Route C opening, but him and his brothers then popping up on the God Box to fight 9S/A2 felt a wee bit random. Within the story, I don't see his motivation for going after them. It's not like he has a reason to get revenge on 9S. It could be the network funneling machines towards the Resource Gathering Stations, but then he still feels like a sort of random boss thrown in there after the more dramatic and narratively significant 21O/21B.

Thematically I can only think of relatively weak reasons, like Auguste and his brothers being a sort of familial unit and how 21O dying ruined 9S' chances of becoming a family with her, or Auguste basically being there to rub it in his face that, despite him denying their brotherhood at the start of Route B, they did pull through and became a force to contend with (even though A2 then kills them anyway.) Both of these are grasping at straws, but I can't think of something else I'm afraid.

Thoughts?

>>173084291
what's bad about Nier combat then? I think it's pretty clever the mechanics and stuff. maybe not for 9s, but.

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>>173084451
I'm off from work, silly. Sometimes I post from my phone.

>>173084951
Auguste wanted to tap that A2booty

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>>173084747
It's a tragic love story that ends on extremely surprising happy end.
Which is something i completely didn't expect from Taro.

>>173084951
I haven't really given it much thought but it just seems to be there to fuck with the player even more.

>>173084951
Seemed a bit out of place, I agree.

Still stands that it makes sense that the "family machine" showed up when 9S had to kill his big sis/mom.

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>>173084951
It's N2 trolling 9S by showing that both machines and androids seek a familial bond, even though such a thing is meaningless for them.

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>>173084808

>you will never, NEVER, get drunk with Taro, Kamiya, Ueda and Toyama

>>173084951
I feel like I completely missed what his deal was. Did Auguste show up beforehand? I thought it was just some random robot with an oniichan spiel to make you feel bad about killing something

>>173084951
Towers are the personal hell for 9S.
N2 tested how 9S will react on death of a person who wanted to form a family with him, then wanted to test how he will react on killing another family.

>>173085334

Did you play Route B?

The very opening was a fucking 5 minute sequence with Auguste and one of his brothers.

>>173085334
he was the robot that you get oil for when you play as the stubby

>>173085456
I didn't connect the dots at all, is that the only time he shows up or is there something more to it?

>>173085308
Someone got speeding ticket.

Is there an upload for a 320 version of the OST and Hacking Tracks?

>>173084951
Speaking of bosses. What are the names based on and has anybody figured out some meaning there? Marx and Engels is obvious, but not so much the meaning.

Who's Auguste based on? Auguste Rodin?

Is Taro just fucking with us with the names?

>>173085553

He also shows up very briefly at the start of Route C when you're flying back down to earth.

>I didn't connect the dots at all
If you look around during route B you can see his 'arms' lying nearby.

>>173085764
convert lossless ost to mp3 if you want 320

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>>173085553
He shows up at the start of Route B during that segment, you can even see the flying machines that later become his arms lying around him. You can also see him during the opening of Route C, pic related. And then he shows up in the God Box after A2 kills 21O. That's it, as far as I know.

As you can see, the two times he pops up he himself doesn't really matter too much, but then he shows up directly after a really important plot point.

Here's my interpretation of the fist clench.
In ending A/B 2B is unwilling to kill 9S because the 9S that exists now will die.
During the prologue she shows no hesitation with the black box and I think this is because she essentially gets to die with him.
When she finds out that only she gets to keep her memories, it takes that away from her and it's just another death of 9S that she has to live with.

>>173085785

Considering how Simone and Jean-Paul are cheeky critiques of their namesakes, They probably all have a hidden meaning.

>Marx and Engels is obvious, but not so much the meaning.

Marx is a part of Engels. The Engels you reactivate realized how horrible his actions were now that he broke away from the network.

Think about it.

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>>173085267
Why are lolis with deep male voices so perfect?

>>173085340
>N2 tested how 9S will react on death of a person who wanted to form a family with him, then wanted to test how he will react on killing another family.

Seems to be the most legit reason.

>>173086093
Yeah, now I remember. He said he killed a shitload of androids and regretted it. Yeah, I guess it makes sense, kinda.

wheres the best place to farm machine arms

>>173086093
sartres meaning is pretty obvious, taro just shits on him as he dislikes his philosophy

simones one is also obvious if you know about her, simone is known for leading the movements of feminism we all hate today, and taro shits on her

>>173085912
That sounds like work.

>>173085785
I thought Auguste was Comte. I sat down and went through the more or less explicitly named real people once. Here's what I concluded:

>Jean-Paul sidequest is Jean-Paul Sartre (duh)
>Simone de Beauvoir is the Simone boss and Sartre’s denied lover
>Karl Marx is the excavator Goliath at the start
>Friedrich Engels is the second excavator Goliath
>Karl Theodor Ferdinand Grün is the giant robot coming out of the water eating the carrier
>The baby of the Forest King is Immanuel Kant
>Forest King himself is Ernst Bloch
>So-Shi is Zhuangzi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi
>Boku-Shi is Mozi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi
>The machine A2 fights in the desert is Hegel
>The machine with the long arms of other machines A2 fights is Auguste Comte
>Little Brother with the bucket is named Friedrich, either Engels or Nietzsche
>Ko-Shi is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius
>Ro-Shi is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi

The -Shi ones got their name from the Japanese variant of the Chinese philosophers in those links, that's why the names seem off.

Not saying this list is perfect, and I've yet to go through and do some research on a lot of them, but that's what I came up with when I went through the Unit Data after beating the game.

>>173086359
It takes like 3 seconds to do it in iTunes

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Goddammit Emil you cocksucker JUST SELL ME THE FIST WEAPONS

Fuck all these +6 chips

>>173086419
Oh right, it's ALAC and not FLAC?

>>173086492
yeah

>>173086384
How did you get to the Forest King names and the Little Brother? Did the little robot's name got mentioned anywhere?

Can I buy more booze?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ
WHAT BEGAN AS A CONFLICT

>>173086774

Intel archives.

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>>173086774
Unit Data

>>173086384
There is also Pascal that's named after this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal

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Why is N2 so perfect, bros? Truly the pinnacle of evolution.

I wanted to play the first Drakengard but I don't speak moon and from what I hear the translation is butchered. What would I be missing by playing it in English?

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>>173086774

>>173084951

What? I don't remember auguste appearing at any point other than that boss fight? When else do you see auguste?

>>173087023
It's just a network avatar used by a guy with a voice of Kotomine Kirei

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>>173087010
Yeah, you're right. I forgot to list him. Here's a neat thing: The philosophy book Anemone gives you to bring to Pascal is actually by Blaise Pascal. Pic related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensées

>>173087087

Again, the start of route B

How do people miss this? I can understand not noticing the sphere arms on the ground, but for fucks sake the brothers in the boss fight have buckets on their heads.

>>173086890
>>173087067
Oh, that makes sense then. Thanks.

>>173087087
Read
>>173085958

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Can someone help me find a missing quest?
I tried looking in the bunker, and there are no red dots left on the map. I have no idea where to go.

This is where a missing quests starts.

>>173087087

nevermind

>>173087067
>>173085958
>>173084951

Damn this shit went over my head when I played and now it's making me sad.

Is 6O the Bunker's resident bicycle or what? She gets teased with every single female character she interacts with.

>>173087437
She is just really thirsty.

>>173087365

100% Weapon Stories unlocks a new quest.

>>173087551
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU

I'm missing 2 9S quests too? Are they related?

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>>173087437
>you will never plow 6O in a mating press over a bed of flowers and then smash her head in with a sledgehammer because you can't impregnate an android

>>173087584

Nope. Just keep chapter selecting until you see red dots on the map.

>>173087602
Yeah, that comic was slightly disturbing.

>>173087584
Probably bunker missions that you get in early 2B/9S routes

>>173087771
Wait what?

>>173087884
I just checked them all.
I can't find shit.

>>173088384

When do they start on your chapter select?

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>>173088147
This is the one I'm talking about.

>>173088508
There's one you get from the Commander pretty early on in Route A, it's called Improving Communications, I think it's around before the amusement park.
Then as 9S around the desert mission you can get a mission from 21O in the bunker called Data Analysis freak

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>>173087023

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>>173088508
The first missing mission starts at my screenshot.
But it's weird how it's missing only one shared, but 2 of 2Bs

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By the way, since I've been posting quite a few screenshots of unit data and weapon stories in these threads, I'm pulling them from a collection of screenshots I created showing all the archives, fishing encyclopaedia, novels, picture books, subquest descriptions, unit data and weapon stories. In case someone else finds some use for that, here's a .zip of said collection:

https://a.doko.moe/luzkuh.zip

I know this stuff is on wikis as well, but I think there's merit in having the primary source right there and, since we're on an image board, having it in image format can be helpful as well.

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>>173088674

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>>173088681
Got those

>>173088827
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>173088926
It's too late for me to stop. It was always too late.

>>173088994
Techrax is making it into doujins I see

>>173088806
why would androids need to cover their chests?

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>>173088994

>>173089048
Suffering for the glory of Mankind.

>>173089123
Fashion statement.

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>>173087437
Now imagine what would happen if 9S and 2B switched their operators.
How jelly would 2B be all the time looking at constant attempts of 6O to deflower her shota?

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>>173088674
>>173088827
>>173088994
>>173089145


IT SCREAMED AT US

>>173089290
It's funny how 21O is to-the-point like 2B and 6O is talkative and cute like 9S but 2B and 9S get operators that act as foils

>>173089145
This is why i enclose my Iph in Otter-class exterior plating.

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>>173089290
2B would kill her.

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>>173088674
STOP
DELET THIS

>>173089290
I don't think 6O could handle seeing 9S be killed by 2B over and over again while being attached to him.

>get ending D
>use chapter select to make a different final choice and get ending C
>locked into ending E
>yoko taro's wild ride commences, genuinely laugh out loud how stupidly hard the bullethell gets
>finally cave after bashing my head against the hardest boss in video game history (marketing department)
>breeze through with the help of others
>delete save even though I've had so much to do still

What a masterpiece. Only sad that I had basically the entire game spoiled for me. Usually I wouldn't care, but this game was special, been looking forward to it since e3. I'll definitely revisit this to clear the content I've surely missed.

I also never got to listen to what the strange mask lady had to say.

>>173089720
>locked into ending E

You were not locked dude. Just tell the Pod no at the start and the credits get aborted.

>I also never got to listen to what the strange mask lady had to say.

She was the achievement shop, you unlocked her ability to sell them to you.

>>173089720
She starts selling achievements.

>>173089648
It's possible that 21O couldn't do that either. She asked 9S to stay out of the fighting. She volunteered for a combat role, which is the same as asking to get away from her role as an operator. She appears to have gotten tired of her job.

>>173090065
I wonder if she thought to confront 2B if she gets another kill order or something.
Virtuous Grief is most likely about her.

Anyone got ideas on fucked up abuse for Devola or Popola?
Keep it Taro-esque

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How do I get this chest?

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>there's like 10 new pages of automata pixiv fanart each time i check it
>and i check it regularly

>>173089981
Is translator anon here? ;_;

>>173090218
>>173088827

>>173090410
Apart from that

>>173090240
Maybe you can hijack that robo near it? Just a guess

>>173090240
Drop down, pod jump, jump, dash should do it. You get there by just platforming

>>173090065

I'd interpret it differently. With Adam and Eve defeated she probably saw this as the first best chance of finally beating the machines, so she probably switched to a combat role to help out. Its why she acted so differently at the start of route C. She thought her dream of having a family was within her grasp.


Then Yoko Taro happened

Could anyone upload just the English version of Emil's Shop? I don't want to download the whole game rip for just one song.

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>>173089981
where the fuck is the translation REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173090240
There's no trick to it, it's just a fairly hard jump. Drop down beneath the stairs and use your jumps, pod jumps and airdash.

If you equip a spear as light, its aerial attack moves you forward a little too, but that's more useful as 2B because she can do three attacks in the air, whereas 9S' third air attack with the spear does a plunge downward like 2B's aerial heavy.

>>173090218
>Devola survives but Popola doesn't
>androidinati programs her to now also feel unending fathomless guilt for failing to protect her counterpart as well as project gestalt
>new filters inhibit the effects of alcohol and E-Drugs

>Popola gets stuck in the towers electric fence for eternity with Devola's corpse right in front of her
>resistance members don't consider the risk of a rescue attempt to be worth the effort and eventually just quarantine the area off
>quarantine measures are essentially a Chernobyl Dome

>>173090173
If she knew about type E during her time as Nines' handler, and it's not certain that she did know, then it's possible she would have had those memories wiped as she was put on combat duty.

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>>173090714
>for a second 2B genuinely believed that everything terrible is close to ending at the end of route A
>turns out 9S got infected saving her butt from regenerating Eve

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>>173090359
>>173090808
You guys are being mean.. I don't feel like translating for you anymore.

>>173085308
Taro knows ueda eh? i wonder if his games also made a impression on him like miyazaki

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>>173091119
I'm not being mean. ;_;

>>173088890
you're missing terminal repairs, its a quest O10 sends you to reactivate a broken terminal after you unlock fast travel

>>173091119
no please translator-kun :( we really need you to be happy!

>>173091172

The toco toco interview showed him playing The Last Guardian at his home.

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>>173091119
We're always here for you, translator-chan~

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>>173090240
I got it by walking off the ledge toward the steps, as soon as you pass under the steps light attack towards the treasure, then use the double jump to catch the ledge

>>173086348
Sartre also gets to live forever.

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>>173088674
>>173088827
>>173088994
>>173089145
Every time

>>173090704
>>173090838
Thank you for the help
it was a fucking metorite

>>173091971

>meteorites end up being less valuable than pure water since they can be bought from a shop and water cant

What did Taro mean by this

>>173087063
The incest and pedophilia being more obvious off the top of my head.

>>173091971
Suffer like G did

>>173090352
Taro fucking made it, the madman actually fucking made it and it's wonderful to behold. Now watch Square never give him money anymore.

>>173092365
>Now watch Square never give him money anymore.

more likely if his mobile game becomes a success they'll keep him chained to it for the rest of his career.

>>173087063
The black humor revolving around pedophilia is entirely gone as are modt everything else related to it.
The incestuous overtones are all almost entirely gone as well.

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Guys, next chapter of the fanfic is out!

Please be gentle

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>>173091119
Please, anon! Have cute puppies!

>>173084292
It's not that far-fetched. You've got the red-eyed folks who are practically drones under the thumb of a godlike power, you've got the Gemini face of the Watchers appear, you've got an infection which only seems to affect humans (or rather, human-like; machines and androids, but not pods). It's not like there aren't similarities.

>>173092651
Cute!

>>173087602
Does 6O have a 2Bx9S folder?

>>173092651
http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23290206

I'm a fucking genius

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>>173084065

>>173092892
Mehbee

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>>173092892
Of course

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>>173086348
>taro just shits on him as he dislikes his philosophy
But entire underlying message of the game and especially Weight of the World is very Sartrean

>If, however, it is true that existence is prior to essence, man is responsible for what he is. Thus, the first effect of existentialism is that it puts every man in possession of himself as he is, and places the entire responsibility for his existence squarely upon his own shoulders. And, when we say that man is responsible for himself, we do not mean that he is responsible only for his own individuality, but that he is responsible for all men.

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>>173092982

>>173084749
He's working on another game right now. It's a mobage, so it's not like it's a very big deal, but it's not like he's got nothing at all on his plate.

>>173092892
No, she ships herself with 2B and 9S with 21O

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>>173092982

B E C O M E A S G O D S

>>173093146
I really love the machine designs in this game. Everyone else is trying to make robots look super advanced and have all these little parts and details, and then in this game 90% of the enemies look like if someone tried to cosplay a Pez dispenser with a dieselpunk aesthetic.

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>>173091332
I'm also missing this one apparently, even though I'm sure I already blew up all the robots all of them respawned...except this one.

>>173086348
Dunno, though I might not like him much as a person his philosophy is pretty sound. You're gonna carry that weight.

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They can fix Engels after the game events, right

>>173093731
Y-yeah, h-he'll be daijoubu!

>>173093573
I feel like they had this Tim Burton kinda feel in the beginning and I really liked this
>>173093731
But he wanted to die to atone for his sin. Would you bring him back and make him live with his pain?

>>173093573
They're fucking great really, you can go from the basic stubby to shit like Simone(who still has her regular Emil head, the big head is basically a fake).

Made a snake video
https://youtu.be/u940Q780s-A

Not sure if happy with it. Didn't turn out as funny as i hoped but got some nice snake footage

>>173093863
Doesn't the big head actually contain her core?

>>173089720
Oh, I forgot, what's behind the doors that had a robot kneeling in front of them? And how do you open them?

>>173093992
Not sure, but I know you can still see a tiny head below her big head.

The journey down to Emil's home makes me sad.

>>173093968
and people are still doubting that 9s is the best character
holy shit

>>173094154
Oh yeah I assume that her original head is the one at her collar, but when she falls over at a certain point the big head pops open and her core is exposed.

>>173093992
But all those children stabbed their stomachs to suicide in the factory.

>>173094334
Wait I misread that.

>>173094334
Well there aren't many places to put a core in the stubby models besides the body. In the giant machines (like Simone and the Tank) their cores are placed in novel areas that don't correspond to more standard machine forms.

>>173093792
Daijoubu Engels-kun? ;_;

>>173094278
Simone's design is honestly pretty great, wish Taro and company had the dosh and time to make every other boss as nice.

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reposting link since I got 0 feedback.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23141313

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>>173092903
Cute. Keep it up!

>>173094518
>tfw you grow attached to a talking oil rig/mining machine

>>173093968
>you can beat speedstar as snek
holy shit

>>173094960
While speedstar was still making an attempt during the 1st race he soon realized there was no point in even trying for the 2nd and 3rd race so he decided to glitch out and stay in his starting position.

>>173095161
>You're winner!

>>173095161
>He glitches
>He's screaming inside because he can't go fast.
Why didn't you help him Anon? He was suffering.

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Am i the only one who thinks that 9S is fucking creepy?
>if you scan his room with pod program you can find simple gadget which is obviously hidden so no one could find it
>that moon server "free me from my yoke of iron" message
>that ability to merge and interface with machine network almost naturally
>the way his body becomes metallic in ending A
>the very fact he uses melee weapons
>the way he almost never tells 2B what he really sees like it was with Simone flashback
>waifu folder
>Adam's VN segment
>Cruel Oath weapon story
There's something really spooky about the guy even aside from his obvious murderous tendencies.

>>173095572
What the code means. Translated by translator anon.
"...that place was as though it was heaven. Without hatred or sorrow, a place that was as if it was just a warm sunny spot. But, would I be able to obtain the pardon to enter it? Not even possessing original sin, dolls..."

<From the final record that was remaining in the hardware memory of 9S>

>>173095572
He is just an edgy teen with his first crush

https://twitter.com/johntv/status/849420533775048704 LADS

>>173096013
I would buy it.

>>173095385
I let him ride the snek after we shook off the machine police

>>173092651
I should be compiling a kernel for my class tomorrow and you came out with this, somebody save me.

>>173095572
Waifu folder? Is there an actual one in the game or are we just assuming?

>>173092651
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23290206
Kernel anon again, YOU WHERE THE ONE THAT WROTE THIS? Man i fucking love you, i couldnt stop reading your fic last monday morning during my breakfast, you gave me a nice week start, it was actually awesome, thanks you, your fic is really cute man.

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I just got Ending E in Automata

What is the point of playing anything else? I can't remember the last time a game made my jaded ass' jaw drop so many times.

>>173093968
Removed that video because I uploaded to the wrong channel. Here's new link: https://youtu.be/Ro2Gy3SjG6w

>>173096718
I played a lot of dmc4, and I try to play shitty action games in the same way. It's funny if you don't take it seriously, and when I go back to dmc4 i'm always in awe at how good it is.

>>173095572
Please explain 'waifu folder' further

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>do my third play through
>[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]
I just want to keep playing A2. 9S is annoying as fuck.

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>>173096718
After a week, I moved on to Toukiden 2. Just wash everything away with the grind.

>>173097262
>MonHun knockoffs

>>173095572
He also has a problem seeing the positive side of his operator. Very negative assumptions. However he also has some nice qualities to him, like how he's good with machine kids, he's helpful, and he's pretty spontaneous. Those qualities keep him from being a full on creep, which is exactly the point of his character. To teach shut ins like us that we need to connect with others. In fact the whole game is about connecting.

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>>173096705
Cowrote.

Thanks anon <3

how do i gain the patience to farm for 100% weapons

>>173097330
Hold on, I'm just launch Generations real quick from Steam and play some of that.

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>>173096705
Oh yeah, I'm also the owner of the modding/mining group.

>Writing a Kernel

Shit man we could use more people like you over there.

>>173097330
Knockoffs are more fun

>>173080763

Project Gestalt is fascinating but Project YorHa was a lot more interesting and devastating. That and the characters in this game get plenty of development. Branch C and on illuminated 2B's character and lent plenty of development for other characters as well

>>173096604
I think he meant that part of Soul box where he goes to his memory bank and it's full of 2B pics.

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>>173097369
>He also has a problem seeing the positive side of his operator.
How so? He awkwardly tries complimenting her and remarks that he likes how formal and to the point she is after she hangs up on him for personal chatter.

>>173097369

I would say connecting is a big theme in the game, but the biggest theme in the game is that life in general is worth living no matter how shitty it may seem, especially if you've got people you care about, even if there's risk in bein gaaround them

>>173097749
>these cars
What fucking time era does the end of the world take place in?

>>173097767
That's remarkably close to summing up a lot of themes present in Evangelion.

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>>173098006

I was thinking this as well. Even ending E reminded me strong of End of Evangelion.

Why do you think these themes crop up so much in Japanese media? It's often with the backdrop of a futuristic large-scale conflict as well.

>>173097916
The replicants all die around 4200 AD, but society has been collapsing since Caim and the Queen Beast fell on Tokyo around 2003.

>>173098145
Because jap work culture is so bad it would make a third world sweatshop blush

Why were fish machine lifeforms made? What is their thought process like?

>>173098205

That's a pretty good answer

>>173098145
Because Childhood's End is a pretty damn iconic sci-fi book.

Grun' story just made me cry guys why did he have to suffer so much?

>>173098205
Do they install suicide nets on offices like France and China?

>>173098450
He's in a Taro game.

>>173094624
I enjoyed it. It was sweet.

>>173098497
no its all kept under the rug
one suicide here and there, but the rest tend to die alone in their homes.

>>173082713
>enjoy both Nier and Automata
>still think Nier is a better game
>REEEEEE NEWER IS BETTER FUCKING HIPSTER ELITIST AUTISTS REEEE
Fuck off and die in a hole. I'm not attacking your seasonal waifu.

>>173098740
>types in caps and /r9k/ memes
>thinking I give a shit enough to read the rest of your post
don't reply to me ever again

>>173098441

It really is. Makes me wanna check it out.

>>173082923
>can't enjoy more than one thing at a time and want to be as much of a contrarian garbage as possible
Literally automatafags. I've been in these threads since the beginning, and it's always automatafags overreacting to perceived slights against their precious feefee generator.

>someone comments that they're enjoying Automata but it isn't as good as Nier
>automatafag jumps out of the bushes and screeches about how they never realized how overrated Nier was and how Automata is just better in every single way and if you don't agree then you're lying
Every time. There are people shitposting Automata too, but they are much fewer in number and they generally just shout into the void instead of jumping on people.

I wish there were more bossfights with more human like enemies with the same size as our characters you know? Those are always my favorite in all games and they are always so few in number. I guess it's because I like the feeling of being in equal footing or something

>>173098145
>>173098205
There's definitely something else to it. American work culture isn't much better after all things are considered. Sure there's fewer work hours, but that's slowly but surely becoming less true, same with pensions, job security, and how many years of your life you're going to have to work. Namely, until you die. All under the veneer of "you're just not PASSIONATE enough about your FIELD", reduced vacation time under the guise of "unlimited vacation time", sexual harassment, SJWism, and the works.

But you don't see anything in fiction out of Americans about this.

Hell you barely see any creativity out of Americans at all.

>>173099296
Aye aye, its a recent thing here in the west
But the elevens have been getting the short end of the corporate stick for so long its not even funy

>>173099296

America generally has a "fuck you" attitude that permeates our culture right up to our best artists

We also have an extremely peculiar juxtaposition of morality that's just proliferated over the years: virtue signal about much you accept every type of person but also fuck anyone who disagrees with me, etc.

>>173099289
I enjoy player-sized bosses more than giant ones because they might look more frail but they're often more difficult because it's harder to see their telegraphs. Really good AI can make it almost like you're fighting another player.

>>173098145
This wasn't a case of two separate individuals arriving at a similar theme through different means. Taro has a massive, throbbing Evangelion boner, and this time he decided to drop the pretense and just flop it out on the table.

So is it true that 9S is based off of the original Nier? Either papa or brobro

>>173099289

play more fighting games

>>173099837
I do, second favorite game genre, even if I suck at them

>>173099781

Ah, that makes me like him even more. That and his being a very well-read consumer of philosophy. I laughed my ass off when I saw Hegel was called Hegel.

>>173099895

Good shit

next step is picking up martial arts

>>173099296
It starts early unfortunately, with shitty lazy parenting and harmful practices like daycare, then we send the poor traumatized little bastard to a worthless government subsidized school that instead of trying to produce better students just lowers the bar for passing while also crushing individuality out of it's students in favor of conformity and mediocrity, then the drugged up and abused young adult is shunted off to college which they are told is necessary for success, and as is evident now it just gets worse from there.

Maybe one of the reasons why Automata made me feel for some of it's machine characters is because they strive so hard for individuality and self-understanding while authoritarian humans seem absolutely set on crushing those things out of their fellows. It seems like a gross waste of the one thing that really makes humans unique.

>>173099296
>American work culture isn't much better after all things are considered
You would probably kill yourself right now if you were in Japan.

It's pure masturbatory ignorance to claim that America's work culture is even remotely comparable to Japan's.

>>173100526
Jokes on you I would probably kill myself right now if I wasn't locked in a place without any means to do it

I missed the wandering couple before the flooded city fight, where the hell were they supposed to be?

>>173100526
When GM flopped and pulled out of NUMMI, Toyota offered to take over at reduced pay, 25$ for assembly line workers from 30$. UAW refused and the plant closed. Toyota to this day almost a full decade later continues paying out health insurance for all its former employees. GM did a total of 0$ worth of jack squat. God bless America.

But I'll take your word for it oh enlightened one, I'm sure one day I'll realize how great capeshit really is. You made 300k starting too right? It's so much better in America just because there's fewer hours!!!

Go fuck yourself.

>>173094624
Dont repost and make a fucking chapter 7 i loved it. Please i want a something really sweet this time.

>>173101304
>one incident that has nothing to do with work culture means that decades of international scrutiny of Japan's horrific work culture is irrelevant
People in Japan are literally worked to death. America is garbage, but it's still leagues better than Japan.

>>173102221
>how a company treats its employees has nothing to do with work culture

Enjoy your pure masturbatory ignorance, I'm done with you.

>>173101470
Thanks.

Chapter 7 will probably follow A2 and actually introduce the conflict.

>>173102381
It's about the day to day quality of life, not one single event.

>still ignoring Japan having a decades old reputation for its abusive work culture
You just want to sit there and jerk off about how terrible you have it and how grorious nippon is. You are the worst kind of weeb.

>>173097916
Another WW2 parallel.
Also the concrete skyscrapers, as opposed to more modern glass and steel structures.

Birth of a wish is some metal shit

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is this supposed to happen in ending E or is it an actual connection error?

>>173098221
To destroy the ecosystem and cut off human food supply.

>>173097749
He complains about her disconnecting about 3 times while she just opened up to him or did something else nice.

>>173103993
First time I've ever seen THAT screen.

Have you tried google?

>>173098221
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Koi+Carp+Machine

>A machine lifeform resembling a koi carp.

>It is surmised that fish machine lifeforms were created to scare away the real fish mankind used for food. (They look very much like the native species, so whoever made them did their job well.) Fish machines are also extremely aggressive which helped deal a huge blow to the ecology of aquatic life on earth. Once they had fulfilled their purpose, all maintenance was stopped - but they still managed to adapt to, and thrive in, their environments. As a result, current species are no longer hostile towards androids, and instead concentrate on not dying much like any other animal. In contrast to land-based machines, however, their data banks are no longer synced, so the evolution of their intelligence has pretty much ground to a halt.

>Many machine-fish have formed symbiotic with natural ones, allowing them to consume the sessile organisms on their bodies - such as moss and barncles - in exchange for protection. With natural fish performing their maintenance, machine fish now live lives which are the exact opposite of what they were designed to do.

>In recent years, new ecologies have been observed as a result of such symbiotic relationships. Some, for instance, have formed colonies in order to protect themselves, leading to increased aquatic life cross the planet. Of course, the current ecology is quite different from when mankind still inhabited Earth, but the sheer quantity of fish is sure to be a surprise once they finally return from the moon.

>However there are even bigger changes afoot. With no new fish machines being created, they are predicted to go extinct sometime over the next 150 years. Scientists are greatly interested in what may happen to the original native fish when they lose their mechanical protectors.

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>>173103993
Error.

>>173103993
It means you pressed gave up, I think

>>173103993
I got that while doing ending D for the first time. I clicked on the 'interrupt data' something because I thought it would delete my savedata. I thought that was part of the game, is it a bug?

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>Bunker theme is called fortress of lies

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>>173103993
This happens if you say yes to the pod request of deleting the data. Or if you give up during the credit game before accepting help from another player.

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>It's a Bunny 1 shot hops you episode

>>173092982
BECOME AS GODS

>>173092982
Where does one procure brother niers fashionable scarf thing?

Is there a good list to help achieve 100% unit data with? Every list I found is unorganized and does not list in the same fashion the in game list is so it's pretty much useless. Any good list to help complete this?

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>>173106472
>20 minute fight
>Only went up 1 level

Was fun, better than just hacking and feeling like a shitter

>>173097660
The character development is too backloaded imo. 2B and 9S are very flat characters for the first two thirds of the game.

And 2B's reveal, while making her a more interesting character, has the unfortunate side effect of flattening her perceived character arc, since we learn that all of her character development actually took place before the game started.

Need to know something, why do a lot of people believe that 2B and 9S had sex (or at least something similar) after ending B and before he gift her the E-Drug? Am i missing something?

>>173095572
9S is a stones throw away from going full Caim. If it wasn't for him going full retard while pissed off he probably would've caused outright genocide.

It's obvious throughout the entire story that the 9S we see and his actual personality are very much disconnected.

>>173097369
I disagree. I don't think the theme of the game is connecting. Rather, I think the theme of the game is hypocrisy and the inherent nature of it. I find Automata story-wise sharing a lot in common with LISA in terms of how it frames the characters as being a consequence of extreme desire and the twisting of love to hatred and vice versa.

2B loves 9S, but has to kill him as part of her duty. 9S loves 2B, but despises her as well because she takes away his memories, his life and his self. Pascal is a pacifist machine pushed to the very edge and beyond of his ideals. And so forth.

I think framing the game as being either about 'connecting' or 'life is worth living' is missing the point. Especially because Pascal's entire arc goes contrary to that very theme.

>>173107907
Headcanon

Why were Adam and Steve so irrelevant?

>>173092651
Man, just seeing that link and I'm kind of tempted to dust off my Ao3 account and see what I could come up with for this. Probably 2B x A2,
with 2B consensually restraining A2, who gets to struggle at full force and feel Virtuous Contract slowly parting just the surface of her skin, with all the enhanced sensitivity of the already kind of sadomasochistic YoRHa units amplified by berserk mode, until even A2's reserves of rage empty and she softens into twitching but unresistant putty in 2B's hands as she works her to gentle orgasm.

>>173111269
A2 is for gently cuddling only, she suffered enough

>>173092982

Why does Taro wear an Emil head all the time? Is it autism?

>>173111423
I certainly agree she deserves lots of gentle cuddling. I just think she might appreciate a chance to work out some of her aggression too, and a controlled situation that can amplify the gentle cuddling after could be fun.

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My game glitched.

>>173107907
9S had that bedroom voice when you talk to him during the credits. Also he was getting in front of her and trying to protect her more than before. Something happened between them. Even the Japanese think so with their little comics.

>>173111657
He spent $500+ on it. He better wear it.

>>173080763
I agree the first game had a decent hard mode.

>>173111657
He doesn't like crowds well and prefers not to reveal his face. By his own admission at PAX,
"If I was reading an erotic novel and found it to be written by a stranged middle-aged man, it would be disappointing. A similar reason is why I wear a mask"
Obviously paraphrased but you get the deal

>>173113132
>implying nips don't take every opportunity to turn situations into porn.

>>173113347
It's really, really rough in the beginning, though. Rougher than Automata. You have to smack random goons for a minute straight before they die.

Granted, it makes a lot more sense in-universe for Nier to struggle against the Shades than it does for Toobs to get instagibbed by a stubby.

>>173080763
I dunno, having played both I gotta give it to Automata on both fronts

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post yfw pascal protects the children.

>>173113701
Once you get that OP Phoenix spear fully upgraded you can dash through anything.

The beginning is rough though.

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>>173114073