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SOON:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=903

Previous Thread: >>172873235

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=915

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=914
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt (embed)


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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Free TP when?
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>>173055636

next year
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>>173055561
[Klaipeda]
Futureproof is open and welcome for anyone to join.
pm ApplyAFineHorse3 for guild invite
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what counts as burning for the purpose of flare besides fireball attribute and ignition?
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CoffeeHouse is recruiting.
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>>173056217
Being on top of a fire tile, like on flame ground.
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>/cm/ ad when I visit this general
It's confirmed, you're all gay.
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>>173057290
>ad
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>the symbol of wealth that alchs craft can be exchanged for medals

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/symbol-of-wealth-in-gacha-box/353460/11
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Where do I find 310+ lvl Mutants?
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>>173058650
alembique cave - Green Blindlem
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>>173058546
I have about 500 talt so I can make a few of those hats. If I get banned then this is going to be perfect excuse never to return.
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>>173058898
thanks!
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>magnum opus bug still not fixed
fucking jews
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>>173060817
>magnum opus bug
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>>173060817
it's IMC's own fault for being a bigger jew and putting a hat obtainable in the game already in the fucking gacha.
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>>173061732
You don't know? When you add in more than 1 recipe it shows x2 being created. However if you try it fails and creates nothing and you sit there waiting 3 minutes. How new are you anon? This bug has been here since alchemists were introduced.

>>173062345
It also means I'm going to macro the shit out of magnum recipes. Fuck standing there dragging shit over and over
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>>173059004
>not giving talt to your guild!
well, it's not like there are any guilds left but still anon...
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These DPK changes are really bad, orange mat farmers really got the shortest end of the stick this patch, on top of these horrible drop rates people are being handed out free welfare orange mats
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>>173063184
>horrible drop rates
but farming orange mats is much easier now.
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>>173063343
they nerfed the drop rates since last patch
so far it's been taking me more than 800 kills to get a drop from a mat that was 450-600DPK before the changes multiple times
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>>173063625
You're just very unlucky.
These are 4 mats I farmed today, on average it takes less time than before.
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Best place to do this event
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Is it even worth it to reroll these cubes?
This expensiveness is madness.
Lolo levels of reroll what were IMC thinking.
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>>173056217
>fireball attribute and ignition
both are shit
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>>173066649

No, it's not worth it. The only item worth 450k is the cardboard cube or the instance voucher if you're gonna do full clears of the 170.
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>>173066649
But they are too expensive for gambling on them
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How else to fix attributes stuck at 1m?
I already afked in front the class master in both klap and orsha for over 10 mins with the attrib/skill windows open and its still stuck
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>>173069529
This is how all GMs look, including Staff_Max.
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>>173070154
GM gang bang videos when
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Does reincarnate have a chance to work on field bosses like Mirtis or is it limited to instance bosses?
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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Anyone check if Grim Reapers back yet?
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>>173055561
TOS IS SAVED!
thank you KIM for making talt useful again now
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>>173071285
Not enough free time for another alt now
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>>173071876
>thank you KIM for making talt useful again now
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Uhmmm, when is Mr. Kim going to make guinea pigs ride-able for all classes?
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>>173072384
Soon, my deer Savior XD

Actually they said: Never
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>>173055561
daily reminder that Healmage is a cute delicious loli in real life that can make anyone diamond in a heart beat, and she's legal because she's an adult
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>>173074356
>daily reminder that
thx, but who cares?
that is not even news
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There's no way the talt shit is intentional. Why would they introduce gacha and then immediately make it pointless by letting literally every player turn talt into medals?
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Do Popolion Leaves drop from the small autistic lion-bears outside Klaipeda or am I killing them for nothing? Trying to make a Lolinculus.
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>>173074356
Shit the fuck up Healmage was FP's property long before xhe joined CnL.
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>>173074356
>>173075473
stop name dropping you fucking autismal faggots
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>>173075593
report'em
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Namedrop me!
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>>173076038
Hello retard
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>>173076038
___(You)___
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>>173075593
???
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>>173074356
i doubt that
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>>173074356

loli is a bad thing, retard
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>>173055997
Someone told me FP is dead or dying. I'd like to join a guild (but CnL is full) but i don't know if it's the right choice. is this true? PROVIDE PROOF
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heh just made my first homonculus
man what a disappointment
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>>173077993
>I'd like to join a guild (but CnL is full)
Potential traitors aren't welcome.
Sorry.
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>>173077417
loli is a good thing
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>>173077993
Guild member cap is getting doubled, it doesn't really matter.
What matters is if you have three sets of orange 315 transcended to stage 8 or higher and enhanced to +10 or higher and at least two sets of full lolopanther or hasta to appease der Führer.
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Reminder that the iTOS Staff members are actually the translators, because they're the only English-speaking people they had around.

Go to the game's credits and look at the translators. It's easy to find, they're the only people not named Kim or Park. It's the same name as the Staff members.
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>>173078261
>body can barely support the multiple children I'm gonna put into her womb
It's bad.
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>>173078383
I'd follow plasnazica to death
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>>173078383
>Guild member cap is getting doubled
in winter
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>>173075473
Healmage is in CnL?
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>>173078870
it's true, now she's loyal to the fuhrer
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>>173078754
ikr
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>>173078508
>lolis can't breed
you wat
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>>173077993
>Someone told me FP is dead or dying.
You needed someone to tell you that?
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>>173078870

/pol/mage + plasnazica
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>>173079467
I only started playing recently. so yes
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>>173080057
but CnL is still full of jews and degenerates
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>>173080393
You're the EU cuck that rerolled on Klai aren't you?
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>>173080504
No, i'm not. I'm a leaf. I just started playing 2 weeks ago, currently level 94. Cleric2>Priest2
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>>173080813
>priest2
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>>173081151
what's wrong with that? I was going to roll a monk, aware of the fact noone likes them.
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>>173077993
you have to be in fp and prove yourself before you can move up to CNL
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Resetting or Double Punch?
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>>173081624
Uhm no. The natural progression is FP -> cute -> CnL
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>>173081404
NO MONKS ALLOWED
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>playing this game without cookies

not fun
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>>173081735
Healmage jumped from FP to CnL though.
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>>173082429
This kind of practices happen very often in real life too. You know what I'm sayin
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>>173082038
Damn it. Honestly, all this monk hatred is getting to me. Someone in a party at lv50 dungeon told me to KYS when i said i was going to be a monk.

As far as i know, swordsmans are better monks without the heal (which is negligible in high level content). I'm looking at swordsmans right now.

I'm thinking of a Murmnobi but the idea of having to use a shield is making me sick cause shields are expensive. I considered Dragoon but apparently, everyone and their girlfriends are dragoons. Since good 2handed weapons are expensive out the ass, Doppel is apparently really bad without funding? And fencers are... well... I don't want to use a toothpick. Any other 1handed sword builds out there?
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>>173082681
Monks are OK in pvp, with lots of investment and inquisitor can be ok at blut world boss and that's about it.

They can perform fine in normal pve, but so can almost every other dps class. They are unwanted for endgame pve but then again every cleric that is not diev or krivis is unwanted there as well.

Just build for what you plan on doing and see if monk or whatever other class is good at it.
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Hey guys, I started early today. Anyone want to do Earth Tower on Klaipeda? I'm level 315.
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>>173084083
No.
What for
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>>173082681

>toothpick
>the best dueling sword ever created
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>>173082681
all DPS cost a fuck lot later, if you want to be good

Agnyfags are kinda cheap and can be ok tho
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>>173084083
what's your build?
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>>173082681
You can make anything deal good numbers with enough silver, don't worry about it.

Only Pyro's are the cheap lazy fuckwits little whore character. If you don't give two shits about the game just roll a Pyro and cheese everything and then post about how amazing you are.
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Pets look pathetic now.
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>>173085314
I miss my giant birb.
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>>173084847
Agny? excuse my newfaggotry but Is that doppel?

>>173085286
Well, I guess I'm worrying about whether or not it's worth the time investment
>inb4 nothing in this game is worth an investment of time.
I want to be able to do all the content PvE-wise. I'm not aiming to be the best but at least, functional. If i spent 1-2 months getting this monk to 8 circles only to find out noone wants me, man, that'd be pretty soul-crushing. Also, farming is kind of slow since I'm slow. I'm assuming Swordsmans probably have it easier with swashbuckling.
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>>173085936
>PvE-wise. I'm not aiming to be the best but at least, functional. If i spent 1-2 months getting this monk to 8 circles only to find out noone wants me, man, that'd be pretty soul-crushing. Also, farming is kind of slow since I'm slow. I'm assuming Swordsmans probably have it easier with swashbuckling.

No one really wants monks, and while some swordie builds can sort of farm most people at endgame use a linker thaum for more efficient farming
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>>173085286
>Only Pyro's are the cheap lazy fuckwits little whore character.
Jesus, are you ok anon?
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>>173085936
Agny is a Pyro necklace which gives fire spells retarded multipliers. Monk is functional but in an ET party it would be the 5th position "filler" character. We're getting info on some kind of system overhaul tomorrow, anyway you can make Monk do good damage with enough investment since it has debuff based multipliers and a 0cd spammable attack it just takes more silver than other options.
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Retards, pyros are the true masterrace of dps. Unlike other classes they actually have to be smart about how they dps.
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>>173085521

cover
butt
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Why do I still browse and post in this general when I quit half a year ago
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>>173086213
>system overhaul
What's that? Are they moving the ktos patches over to other servers?

>>173086097
My computer is far too shitty to play any ranged classes (fps of 10-15 at all times). And solowise, I tend to autistically (mind shuts off or I'm doing something else simultaneously) farm for hours on hours on other MMOs so i'm trying to come up with a good solo content character.
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>>173086114
Yeah I'm ok, thanks for the concern. I almost busted a vein there. For a second I realized how bad the balance was and the words just came out. I'm sorry anon, I must've startled you. I won't do it again.
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>>173086607
Because the game is on the cusp of being really good but is held back by stupid bullshit like class balance and end game requiring stupid amounts of time spent fighting things that can't hit you.
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>>173055561
With the news is the game worth coming back to?
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reminder: MONK OK
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>>173087041
>pyro casts fireball and does 3 times that damage 15 times over
balanced
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>>173087145
>pyro casts fireball in order to do 3 times that damage 15 times over
>subhuman monk punches the fireball away
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>>173087145

Monk is relaly okay now but desu, the problem is the fact that they are a rank 5 class. Diev should be rank 5 and monk rank 4.
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>>173087510
that's when jew penalty comes into play
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>>173086847
>>system overhaul
>What's that? Are they moving the ktos patches over to other servers?
no. nobody knows. no details yet.
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So where are the new news? It's already tomorrow in Korea.
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>>173086975
no
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>>173087041
>reminder: MONK OK at not doing dmg
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>>173087575
Woah woah woah anon, let's not get too crazy here. Then Dievs couldn't just go PD2 to also shit out damage while also having unlimited statue duration from Miko and invulnerability.
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>>173087145
one fireball does that better/faster even without agny and no 5hammer
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>>173088474

Exactly.
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>>173087949

My monk shits out about 30k dmg against leather/cloth with 95% attributed DP and about 60k against plate. They're ok but they are only viable with one specific build.
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heh reminder if you get daily quest to kill insects in the 270 to 300 range, you're shit out of luck unless they spawn in uphill

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs?lvlmin=270&lvlmax=300&race=Klaida&f=1

have a nice night
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>do 3 dungeon runs
>do 2 uphills
>addon says I haven't done anything
>do /indun
>0's everywhere
wat, other chars have their limits done so the server hasn't reset I believe

what the fuck?
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>>173089330

that's my 80% attribute Fencer 3. Post webm.
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>>173089647
>not just killing ice walls
retard
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>hunter's pet drops badges

desu
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>>173084339
AH yes. From the time when getting poked by a stick on your abdomen was certain doom due to no modern medicine.
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how important is doppel3? Is doppel2 enough? I don't know if i want to invest another circle into it cause i want the cute shinobi costume.
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When do the Fedimian dungeon runs reset now? In GMT I mean.
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>>173089647
retard
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>>173091824
>>173090361
see you in 30d, dumb La***o K****berg
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>>173091974
Good, maybe I'll be finally free.
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>>173090425
Muh immersion approves.


>>173091463
Dopell is a 1 circle class or 3 circle class. Nothing in between.
The skills you get as dopell 3 is just too good.
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>>173091824
good now we know who is the retard spammer and to avoid his guild
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>>173091463
Doesn't matter at all. The top DPS in the game right now is Pyro, so you might as well get the cute outfit. At best you just lose 50% physattack and 3 hits from Cyclone, that's it.
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Is it worth it crafting a 315 purple mace and socket 2 lv7 (or lv6) red gems and don't think too much about the oranges for now?
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is anyone else lagging like fuck?
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is anyone else fucking like lag?
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>>173094503

What's the character for?
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>>173094503

After the nerf to the mobs... yes. The mace alone (with lv 7 reds) is worth a Rod/Sword stage 3. Plus it works as a luxury five hammer for your alts.

Now if you want PVP, I strongly suggest the rod+trans or for solmiki dps, the staff+trans.
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So as far as I can tell, the reason for the crashes is a fuckup IMC did like a month ago.

At like the beginning of March, they accidentally made it so Steam installs VC2015 when launching the game, because they were going to update the game to require it later.
But that version wasn't QUITE the one IMC wanted us to have.
So you had to delete every last trace of that, reboot for good measure, and install a proper version.

Goddamnit, IMC...
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>>173094503
Do you want to take it easy or be tryhard like a double motherfucker? There's no middle ground.
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>>173091824
So wait. Ice walls are counted as ALL the races?
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>>173094683
PallyMonkInqui, PyroThaumLinkSage and some alts
>>173094697
>Plus it works as a luxury five hammer for your alts.
That's exactly why I considered it instead of rod/staff for a single character.
>>173095151
I want to take it easy like a double motherfucker.
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>>173095684

if it's for multiple characters, mace 100%, I think red weapons are only for characters you intend to transcend on
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>>173089837
Are you not in NA? The other regions had their resets changed to 6am local times instead of NA 6am with this patch
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>>173095684
What's so good about thaum2?

If I just want a farmer character won't it be better to do:
PyroC3>LinkC2>Thaum1>Sage?
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>>173095813
I noticed. They seem to reset at like 3 am my time which is fine but took me by surprise.
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>Only bugs in level are bees
>tfw highlander taking on a horde of bees
They should really have had multiple maps of bees everywhere. Bees and bee bosses.
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>>173095220
No, icewalls are mutants. You can drop badges before taking the quest from event board. If you did that already and received quest to kill something else than mutants you will have to ask someone to destroy icewalls for you.
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>>173095865
retard
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>>173095808
Thanks, I'll settle for the mace then.
>>173095865
You get to swell the 8 monsters you linked with Thaum2, it's really efficient since Pyro2Sage gets enough damage for a farmer.
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>>173095865

thauma 1 = swell only 5(6 with gem/dm) mobs
thauma 2 = perfect 8 swells to combo with your linker c2 8 links.

Thauma 2 also opens the possibility to swell your offhand, and that mean more +~300 matk when using a dagger or ~300 def/mdef when suign a shield can't remember exactly the numbers, scales also with int. and reversi. reversi is fun
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>>173096603
>>173096584
Thanks for the illumination.
I can now safely class up with my farmer.
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How do we fix ToS?
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>>173096828
Make every map spawn like bees did on release when they bumped up the spawns by 1000%
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>>173097148
what?
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>>173096828
How do we fix Unsafety Zone?
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>>173096828
By making ToS2
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>>173097198
Bees didn't spawn that many bees in beta. When the game went into the EA, Dina Bee Farm's spawn rate was bumped up to insane amounts which is why people started farming it in the first place. It's current state is after having it's spawns since then nerfed like twice. Bees would keep spawning before you could kill them all back then.
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reminder that animus > agny

not even my final form
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Is Shinobi a meme?
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wow this wild buff thing is shit
who thought it was a fun idea to force us to dash to keep a retarded buff up that isn't even explained and even if you google it up it's so convoluted it's fucking dumb

no wonder everyone is leaving this garbage
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>>173096828
We do not.
IMC will probably not.

>755 shit damage
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>>173098029
>>173097541
4chin eat the quote
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>>173097904
GIT GUD.
Seriously though they just need to explain it properly. It's a great mechanic
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>>173098165
doesn't seem to do anything for me
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>>173097904

wut mate. it makes your skills stronger. it lasts decently, even more on barb c3.. and as a swordsman, wtf, why aren't you dashing non stop?
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>>173098194
Can a local barbC3 explain stuff to this guy?
I know Wild thingy is great and allows you to utilize more of the skills that deal more damage on stunned targets thing
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>Icewall bug abuse and get La***o'd
>not doing the guild raid boss. all legit, many easy Badges
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>Hold event encouraging new players to come
>Introduce a bug that constantly crashes a large portion of players
>Refuse to fix it
>Hold an emergency maint that does nothing, then disappear off the face of the planet as if everything's been solved, see you in a week

I swear to god, IMC is the fucking KING of incredible first impressions.
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Mango is saying the symbol of wealth is unintentional and they're investigating logs.
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>>173099558

wait, what? how that abuse works?
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>>173099558

Also said bans are coming for people who turned in many symbols. They are doing a maintenance after the meetup to fix it.
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This general is so dead. I'm giving you sad cucks a pity bump. Continue to namedrop attention whores until you fall off the board forever.
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>>173099558
pics or it didn't happen
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>>173099712
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>>173099558
>>173099983
>investigating logs
same logs that said cafe was first guild in gbl season1 on NA?
same logs that show which people did /pmp command?
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>>173099983
inbe4
>ITS NOT ABUSE ISSUE!!! UNBAN ME PLZX!!1
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>>173099558
>>173099983
nice screenshot of him saying that LMAO
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>>173099983
>this issue
what issue? show further up the logs you fucking faggot
>>
>Want to record entire chat
>Know the GM is going to spawn like 20 bosses, causing me to crash, losing the log

Why are they so retarded
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>>173100793
>not using the jp addon that logs chat
>>
>They're already trying to blame all the crashing on addons

JUST LIKE HOW THE MAP PERCENTAGE BUG WAS CAUSED BY ADDONS, RIGHT IMC?

FIX
YOUR
SHIT
>>
do you know what monk c3 really need? the ability to dash like swordsman
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>gooks get a fucking event that gives a pet, hair acc, costume and character expansion slot
>all we got was firecrackers for our first anniversary

http://tos.nexon.com/events/20170405/tree.aspx
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>>173101796
>pet, hair acc, costume
time to quit this shit version of ToS
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>>173101796
>please self publish
>please we don't want nexon
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Alchemist with Pyro C2 and Agny+Five Hammer with Thauma1/Link1 clears 290 easier than a 30 levels higher Doppel that has Stage 4 Gale. Good game you have here tostards!
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How does the new dpk system work?
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>>173102182
This. Although Nexon NA would still fuck up implementing patches.
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>>173101796

they give us 120 tp anon
I bought three char slots and a lens
stop crying
>>
>They made it so symbols don't come out of cubes anymore and you can't exhange them
>They won't undo any previous exhanges, though

Reminder to always ALWAYS cheat when given the opportunity.
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>>173103668
>implying kTOS does not get 100 or more TP now and then from events or randomly
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>>173103928
It not really worth it in this case.
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Oh no I exchanged one symbol of wealth. Will I be freed from this pile of garbage now? I made 5x more and tried to market them but no bites. I suppose if I exchange all 5 of those I could commit sudoku?
>>
THIS DUNGEON FARMING GAME IS BORING
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>>173104565

buy tp, sell token/scroll

so you can only have fun
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>>173103971
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>>173104678
To be honest if I was rich I would. Everything I do in this game is to pinch my silver mark. Everything. Oh I need to level up some boss cards? I'll use an alt to rush 50. Oh I need X item? I'll go hunt it instead of buying. Oh I need transcendence? Well I don't have 300 million to make my weapon stage 10 so I'm gonna slave away at Saalus.

I just hate everything about this game and how it's dictated by these arbitrary limits. I'm either going to have to quit this game or make a Pyro farmer AND an alt account Necrofarmer, because I'm about to lose my mind.
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>>173105025
What is it you can get with exchanging for medals that you couldn't just buy on the market? Even if you wanted a stat reset it would cost a ton.
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>>173105190
>>173105025
Oh >>173103971 should have been quoting >>173103854
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I can't do all this. How do you guys do it? What would you do with all these trash builds?
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Did the buffs to Runecaster ever make it decent?

Did they ever fix the weird interaction between physical link and magic missile that makes it blow up everything?
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>>173105275
>Turning talt into costumes
>Not worth it
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>>173105378
>remember alt has a Nueala card
>log onto it
>it has 3 of them
>can't list them on the market because that alt has no silver
>no token so can't give it any

oh, i didn't want money anyway.
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>>173105307
run 50 dungeon on them and use the cards to either sell or make other cards to level 10 and sell.

>>173105559
You could just sell the talt and buy the costumes for the same price.
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>>173105708
Why is Nuale cards considered so good now?

>>173105741
This alt is like 260 and shit gear, shit everything. He also happens to have 8x dungeon reset vouchers. Should I waste ALL of them on 50 or something else?
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>>173105067

You don't need to try this hard... The community suffers as well so do justl ike I do, shout a saalus party, do it with 4 characters or so, then shout a 290 rush and the day is set (I get around ~1.6~2m +8 shards doing this), rest of the day is free for pvp, maybe hunting some new shit or leveling a new shit alt
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>>173105708

dude, just enter in the 140 dungeon, two times and you're set to use the market.

Also, consider buying a token with real money to help tos. all you need is one token, the rest you get via not sucking
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>>173105784
>Why is Nuale cards considered so good now?
was always good

not like you need them in pve. its a 'pvp' thing
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>>173106061
Isn't it only 10 Mdef though at lvl 10?
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>>173106115
10%
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>>173105997
>help tos

FUCK OFF KIM
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>>173105784
Do you want to level him or run the 260 dungeon 24 times for money? Otherwise just do 50 and get cards.

>>173105708
Play the (card) game
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>>173105997
>consider buying a token with real money to help tos
t. Kim
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wohoo
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>>173106169
>>173106208
Please do not bully Kim "Mastermind behind Ragnarok Online" Hakkyu.
He is doing his best!
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>>173106297
>Event for new players
>This is the result

Is the vga crashing THAT bad?
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>>173106297
We'll just have an event for new players! That'll bring us more players! Oh, but nothing for returning players and no incentives for older players to level, that way we can make sure dungeons stay empty at a lower level.

GENIUS KIM!

>>173106332
I wonder if he'll hang himself when the game dies completely.
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>>173106297
>3:48am
maybe next time try to queue when people don't sleep
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>>173106169
BUY MY GACHA
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>>173106297
>>173106525
this

dumb EU nigga
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>>173106494

>kim
>kyssing

wut? he's getting richer and WOLFKNIGHTS will be another quick cashgrab. expect a few more millions on this badboy account soon
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YEAAAAAAAAAAH
fuck, he just left.
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>>173105378
PLEASE RESPOND!! PLEASE!

I wanted to make something like this instead of Pyro, but I'm not sure if I want Link3/Thaum3 or RC for the last rank:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#211177aah.16233f516a7585.11243a4a55.1a3a445165.153545
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>>173106793
When is wolfknights coming out? Its been in dev as long as tos + an extra year now.
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>>173106297
Are you EU? If so I'm gonna attempt to whisper you and help you if you don't mind a high lvl lowering the EXP I can boost you through it.
>>
useless monkeymaker necro or useless moneymaker powerleveling warlock?
>>
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=917

Okay, the party's over.
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>>173107451
old news already grandpa
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>>173107007

I hope that they re-did the game on direct x 11 lol.

some wolfknights videos shows the same fps problems tos had...
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>>173107415
Necro 1 war 2
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>>173107007
>>173107625
>playing another game by IMC
nigga please

>waiting for generic 3D trash mmo number 9001
if you really want that.. there is so many already
>>
>>173107906

even so... WOLFKNIGHTS has that Kim's touch... the skills aren't going to be full generic.

that man is a genius when conceiving a class and their skills.
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>>173107906
Name a good company to play games by.
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Klaipeda's meetup with GMs Grape and Guava:

They found a flaw to be fixed with GvG, and it'll be reopened after they fix it. They're rushing. (Mango previously said it's expected during April)

The GMs were wetting their panties over the big announcement they'll be making soon regarding balance, stats, transcendence, pvp, and more. They'll continue making balance changes to classes after the big news, too. They said
>its like chaning from the bottom ish..

They are considering an open pvp map. It will "take a time" since they'll work on it after the things in the upcoming announcement.

Yuri is investigating the bug with Selphie in the missing herbalist quest.

They're looking into desync and VGA errors, including parties not being able to join the same session and parties breaking.

They recently added some new censored words, such as hun. The GMs got censored and they're going to update the censor list again to fix that.

Fixing mouse mode is one of their priorities since it's a basic control issue and it has been a problem for quite a long time. Mouse mode will be improved, but it looks like fixing it will be a bit complicated.

They're thinking about some suggestions about sapper skills, such as aggroing monsters or hiding properly.

>The fps is constance problem considered

Regarding class resets and the upcoming major changes and new rank:
>The resets.. are not yet well planned
>but I think something could be done..

On the exorcist head turning bug:
>the notorious looking at me face is also a long thing faced by many ppl
>its also considered problematic and its on the high lists too

>Why are all the GMs female?
>Good question
>GM is amazon
>from the Mythology
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>>173108238
>Okay, the mission something else about the siauliai
>Its also something always in our minds..
>You see. we call it dailies
>"Dailies"
>its definately doesn't sounds fun
>Its like.. you have to do something

>Okay, white rabbit ears
>I will..!!!!
>EAT IT
>ahahaha!
>Okay, about the cosmetics
>we also thinking to push out more stuffs
>since there are many requests!
There's a possibility of gothic lolita stuff.

On crafting classes:
>improving producttion is also the thing we have to consider

>addon, we not really supporting it.

About fixing the speed inconsistencies with auto attacks:
>no not yet planned
>I don't think auto attack will come or not
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>>173108358
>>173108238
>nothing new
meeh
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>>173108238
God damn I can't wait for the announcement!
>>
What drops barghar plate pants? https://tos.neet.tv/items/523311
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>>173108238
>They found a flaw to be fixed with GvG
Is it the 1fpshoglan?
>>
If I have to choose between Linker C2 and Thaum C2, which do I choose? It's for Wiz3 > Link/2 > Thaum/2 > Warlock2
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>>173105307
yeah, running 50 dungeon gets boring but cards are hungry and without Excurlon addon boss maphack approved by IMC it's faster than hunting and keep track of Deathweaver
>>
Haven't played since the game first launched on steam. Is the level grind the same? I usually play supports/healers so I really felt it back then.
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>>173109926
>2 sages
what purpose?
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>>173109953
leveling is faster now
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>>173110176
2 different pyros
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>>173110214
what specs?
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youre all shit at pvp
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>>173110283
ThaumaLink and Pyro3
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>>173109926

where's that monster radar addon
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>49 posters
Ahahaha
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>>173110378
there is a thread in the forum about discontinued/removed addon from the manager
>>
When is the BIG NEWS tm?
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>>173109926
how do you keep playing?
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>>173110607
I don't do my chores anymore, except this 50 dungeon because i need to complete a set of chapp cards
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>>173109926
25m silver
>>173109926
36m silver

Jesus, Necros have inflated the fuck out of the market, haven't they? How much are tokens now, 100m?
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>>173110826
the fuck are you about?
I can't afk on Necro1
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>>173110826
You make that in like a week of dailies, less if you bother to use all your characters.
Now consider rank 8 has been out for like 6 months or over 24 weeks.
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>>173110590
soon!
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>>173110542
I want popo stickers for Line.
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>>173110930
30m isn't even that much my man. Tokens are 3m.
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>>173110826
Tokens are 250million now. they still sell like candy
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>>173109926

Cute team. I'm not the only autist who like to give real names to my girls.
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>>173110930
>>173111026
>>173111179
I don't play this game you fucking losers, I uninstalled literally 10 months ago. If Tokens, which are like 20 bucks, are only worth 3m, what the fuck sells for 30m+?
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>>173111884
ok
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>>173111884
way too much shit and i am poor as fuck but atleast on Fedimian we don't have anything going over 40m silvers on market
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>>173111884
some pretty good stuff

nothing you know or (should) care about I_QUIT_LAST_YEAR faggot
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>>173111884
>Year 2017
>Still thinking tokens cost $20
PLAY DA GAME
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>>173112486
no

>>173112113
kim will make it good at r9 right?

>>173112048
how do things even cost that much with token value so low? is TP worth literally nothing or something?
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>>173111884
30m would only get you 100 blessed shards which would get a weapon to stage 2 I believe.
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>>173112820
>30m would only get you 100 blessed shards
wat
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>>173112763
>kim will make it good at r9 right?
ofc not
>>
What're the good farming classes for non-wizards? Is there anything even comparable to Warlock2 or PyroLinkThaum?
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Nice event for new players or alt accounts Tostards
2k soon
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>>173112907
it would get you only 100 blessed shards
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>>173112763
Tokens only cost $10.

A lvl 290 character can run a Rush Dungeon earning about 400,000 silver in 3 runs within 20 minutes.

If you run it in three characters OR 3 days.
That's 60 minutes of play time earning you 400kx3 = 1.2 million silver/hr

To earn about 3 million silver you need to do the dungeon runs for 3 hours total
1.2 mil/hr x 3 hrs = 3.6 million

Now imagine this is a job.
You basically earn $10/3hrs = $3.3/hr

Seems fair for a game right?
And that's ignoring that you need to level the character to lvl 290 first.
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>>173113208
wow this game is trash
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>>173113195
no
it would be 150 or more
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>>173113331
ok, 150, u happy?
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>>173113408
probably more

no
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>>173113208
I quit ToS because on top of all the other problems the daily grind just made the game feel like a fucking night job instead of something to play to unwind. I drop by every now and again to see if anything's been fixed but I don't think it will ever happen.
>>
>>173113475
no
>>
>>173113548
Well you should set a goal really. Ever since I had an ET team the game felt better.
We are progressing at our pace but it's great. Rushes don't need to all be done but we do it on our main characters at least.

You should do grinding as well. Pretty relaxing.
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>>173113661
Why wouldn't I grind on a game with better combat though? Why would I grind at all when it's 10000% more efficient to AFK on necros?
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>>173113548
Good reason to quit. The daily grind is still there. ET is only for Pyro's and PD2's. The game is dead too so unless you can find a clique, you're not going anywhere in the game. Most like servers are going to be shut down withing 6 months or merged.
>>
game saved
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=673
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>>173114040
Translate this dotards.
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>>173114178
>post good comment
>at x number of comments, everyone gets reward

see >>173101796
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>>173114178
It's just a free costume and character slot increase event for Koreans.
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>>173114305
>tfw iToS doesn't have this event because all the comments will be bad ones
>>
>>173113967
>Why would I grind at all when it's 10000% more efficient to AFK on necros?
This is false though.
Grinding manually gives a lot more silver atm. But IMC should increase active farming silver a bit more I personally think as well.

>Why wouldn't I grind on a game with better combat though
ToS has good combat mechanics but it all falls flat due to shitty net code.
>>
>>173114513
Needs higher mob density and bigger AoE attacks.

What do you even grind manually? Can it even come close to daily dungeons?
>>
>>173114513
ToS combat is shit because most skills have a stupidly long cooldown, forcing you to take artificial breaks during grinding to pad out gameplay time. The whole game is one big drawn out chore.
>>
>>173114739
I don't you would like to see Doppels with 5 seconds Cyclone CD
And Chrono exist for a reason
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>>173114643
A certain person I know we shall call Osa, can farm 3 million silver worth in orange materials in an hour.
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>>173114739

stack skills, retard

>hl doppel

>cleave
>cyclone
>cleave
>cyclone
>cross cut
>crown
>helm chopper
>cleave
>moulinet
>skyliner 3x
>bash
>cartar stroke
>bash
>cartar stroke

that's on doppel c1 alone
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>>173114739
Play this build. Never a dull moment.
You'll be pressing skill buttons everytime.
Or a build similar to this one.

Also most high ranks accumulate so much skills from rank 1 to rank 8 anyways that the keyboard quickly fills up.

It almost sounds to me that you only reached something like rank 5 if you are mad about the cooldowns. And even thent here are rank 5 builds that already have tons of buttons to press.
>>
>>173114834
The game should be balanced around low cooldowns, not high cooldowns. I should have fun throwing out several abilities continuously instead of walking/waiting around for 20 seconds after every mob.
>>
>>173114834
>and chrono exist for a reason

To single-handedly ruin the game? If these faggots didn't exist they could up the move speed and lower cooldowns instead of balancing around some cocksleeve support bitch.
>>
>>173114972
>>173115002
>bunch of filler low damage early game skills completely phased out by end game and just waste sp while you're waiting for your viable r7/8 skills to cool down
Next you'll tell me elememe is good outside of frost cloud.
>>
>>173115002
l-lolipan?
>>
>>173115002
the fuck of build is that?
>QS
>Ranger
>Rogue
>Scout
>Cannon
>Mergen
What abomination are you?
>>
>>173114739
I've had a pretty good time with Wugu C3 > Musket C2.

Wugushi skills are still strong enough to use even with Musket C2, and Musket CDs are pretty short.
>>
>>173115038
RETARD. Pick the build with the most skills. Not every build is a one button press class that you probably picked.
Some rank 8 reach a point where they can choose to specialize on a few skills they ahve for ease or stack and pick all the available skills.

>>173115158
An even bigger retard. Feint+Barrage (A rank 2 and rank 5 skill) beats many of the skills from mergen a (Rank 8) except for arrow rain for a specific scenario where there are tons of mobs.
Backstab (rank 6) beats cannon blast(rank 7) for single target damage on a single foe.
Flare shot (rank 4) beats all the others for damage for bosses that stay stationary since it ticks for 30 times at lvl 5 flare shot. (Yes it even beats any thing the other higher ranked skills can throw)
>>
>>173115397
Let me guess, the only time you get to ET or world boss is when your friends/guild takes pity on you and invites you along.
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>>173111884
>what the fuck sells for 30m+?
Recipes, ET gear, Orange Weapons, Pract (sometimes) and other stuff
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>>173115263
An adventurer.
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>>173115158

>bunch of low level

literally all of those skills scales with physical attack, crit and have a huge % mod. People literally shit 200k moulinets, skyliners, cartar strokes here and there

I didn't picked HL doppel for nothing using this example. But yeah, your example (elememe) is really a problematic one.
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>>173115996
WHAT IS THIS! I can't read chingchong!
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>>173115996
HAPPENING!?
>>
>>173115996
That enemy damage change seems pretty nice, but if they're getting it on the 11th I wonder how long it'd be until we do too.
>>
>>173115996
WHAT IS THAT ORANGE TRASCENDENCE GEM'????????????
KIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFGAS_Y6Is

GAME = SAVED
>>
>>173115996
>>173116220
>>173116314
>>173116341
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=918
>>
>>173116606
Thats just a preview
>>
>>173116709
ofc, what else would it be?
>>
>>173116606
>second comment
>"why you don't fix error VGA, imc?"

WELL!?
>>
>>173116509
>>173116606
>fixing shit that should have been fixed in the fucking beta

BRAVO KIM!!!!!!
>>
>Steam says TOS has an update queue'd

Are... are they actually fixing it?
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Kim saving the game again!!!!!!
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>>173117743
of-course!
>>
>tfw recording the Fedimian GM event
it's been like an hour, they answered quite a lot of questions. Should I upload? Also channel crashed 8 times.
>>
>>173117975
>Also channel crashed 8 times.

Ahahahaha.
>>
>>173117975
dunno

GMs usually dont say much interesting or new or in-detail

maybe if its not very long
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>>173118152
well they pretty much confirmed that trans is going to be rebalanced, damage rebalanced and then after that skills rebalanced in that order, from bottom up

I asked a bunch of questions but yea, most answer they gave was "it's in the upcoming news" or "we are considering it" etc.
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>>173118275
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A FUCKING TEASE
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>>173118276
like >>173116606 >>173116509 ?
>>
Glad I farmed my 300 mats during the temp accidental implementation, seems the drop rate is pretty much back to normal now. Before you could get as many as 10 matts in a row once you hit the DPK amount.
>>
>>173088613
Btw does 5hammers AOE help druids owls or carnivore?
>>
>orange gem

Armor penetration or... atk speed? check that madman spamming crossfire
>>
I have a 220 Swordie that I rank reset and stat reset forever ago when I quit. Should I wait for the new news before I pick a class and stat?
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>>173118809
you might as well ice that character for now, never know
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>>173108795
Inb4 IMC is selling ToS to nexon, I would welcome that change even if it is nexon. At least they have money.
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Got a Nuaele cube from event. Should I open and reroll?
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>>173119145
>talt, talt, talt
>1.2m down da drain
gg
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>>173119145
I don't think Nuaele cubes even drop the card so probably not.
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The last announcement will be Rank9.
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>have been getting vga errors randomly
>im not even slightly mad

Is this just me accepting my death?
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>>173118809
Just create a new one while waiting for the news.
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Can't believe they made us make a line. It's like 7am, hardly any of there. In any case if you guys want I can upload this whole thing. It's about 1.2gigs tho. We got like 10 map crashes.
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>>173119750
They learned.
In klaipeda it was CHAOS. Never asked to form a line and it was people throwing questions left and right. GM's inturn can't answer properly.
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This new dpk system is abysmal
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>>173119823
One line the GM said, which if I can find it on the video was "infinite resets", which I have no idea wtf he meant.
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>>173119965
They better monetize that shit and not make it actually free.
Being able to free rank reset is fine as long as the fee is hefty enough.
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>>173120034
>ktos already did change that prevents afk farm....
shit that was busted as wrong months ago

fucking dumb forum/leddit niggas
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>tfw it's finally your turn to ask a GM and spaghetti falls all out of the GMs pockets onto the server
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>>173119145
No, the card isn't in the cube and the most valuable drop from nuaele is fucking talt
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>>173120387
KEKED
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>>173120387

Id delete char and uninstall if that happened to me.
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>>173120387
>:D
>......:D
>............:D
>..................:D
>........................:D
>..............................:D
dunno why but that musketeer made me laugh
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>>173117743
>Update
>Play
>Things are looking good
>Half an hour late, I talk to a shop NPC
>Crash

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>Wasting time in these GMs meet up
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>>173120685
well it happened to everyone, the entire channel crashed like 10+ times. I did come back and got to ask my question too.

>>173120801
was my first one, prolly last one too
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>>173120387
Had a good chuckle.
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>They're not going to fix the crashing until next week

Why do you put up with this abusive relationship.
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>>173121794
It's killing me inside and I can't help myself.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>173121794
I love being abused. Hurt me more!
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>>173121794
Kim isn't perfect, but he'll get the job done when he can.
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>>173122039
Over a year now!
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>>173121794
All mmos are abusive relationships.
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I just remembered this game existed, is it fixed yet? It was unplayable last time I tried just after release.
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>>173122386
You can't rush good work, silly. hehe
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>>173122534
It's definitely smoother now since 6 months ago.
But last week they implemented something that is making people VGA crash every 2 hours or so.
They're working on it.
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>>173122534
Launch was absolutely horrible, the game's far better than back then but you literally came back the day after a patch introduced common crashes.
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>>173122612
>>173122635
Well that's unfortunate. Granted, I came to check it out because I just heard there was a patch so I guess the timing isn't a huge surprise. I'll check back again in a few weeks.
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>>173122534
its better but not fixed or "good"

>>173122612
no crashes for me
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Should I trans up my weapon to enjoy overpoweredness before it's ruined or wait until it's ruined before I transcend armor or whatever the new meme will be.
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Nice market you have there in Klaipeda.
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>>173123210
Meanwhile in Fedimian.
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>Enter dungeon
>Forgot I reset skills on this character before the potion wore out
Thankfully it's only 50 dung
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>>173123210
>>173123278
why would you compare premium tab with all tab? Im from fedi but I dont get your point. Unless youre saying klai has no big sales or recipies happening?

gotta realize tho on fedi people tend not to exploit. we have our fair share of necro farmers but people actively kill them. Klaipeda had big money makers back in the day during boss rushes and a lot of mafia stuff. It wouldnt surprise me klai has people so wealthy they buy everything worht anything out of the market
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>>173123481
there is a hasta plate armor in that Klai screen

>>173123278
>>173123210
does not mean shit. make them in a few days and its like 100% different
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What the hell is wrong with this fucking game? It was working 4 hours ago.
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>>173123620
fucking idiots in charge
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>>173123620
Welp, mine isn't even launching anymore, I even verified integrity. Time to wait for another update.
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>>173123620
>>173124136

if you arent running it on a pan cake maker delete viasual studio and update to the latest one
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>>173124136
I verified integrity like 4 times and it finally worked. Do your best!
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Grim reapers all over DP2 while I'm just trying to get my monster badges. honest hardworking players punished again.
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>>173123481
>why would you compare premium tab with all tab?
Well the joke is that it is all tab on the Klaipeda screenshot.
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>>173124347
what about bees? I really want to see that but cant atm, not at home. Got any screens?
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>>173124682
That's kind of depressing. Then again I want to make a joke about cute outfits over everything. You have to have SOMETHING in your maket tho, no? Like practonium, orange recipies etc.?
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>>173124719
I don't know, but there weren't any on any channel when I had to kill insects on another character there earlier.

DP2 has like at least 3 though, maybe more.
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>>173124218
Verified twice, but I suspect IMC's updater modifies the files that Steam checks for integrity, so verifying just undoes what the updater did only for it to update again.

It gets to 100% and then the launcher disappears and ToS doesn't start, but I'll just see how things are tomorrow instead, since this wasn't an issue before the update a few hours ago.
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I thought, I'll come back home and finally find people for 50lvl instance, but... ffs, this game is dead and even this event for newcomers can't help.
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>>173125050
Are they even advertising for new people to come back? There's an event but unless they're getting the word out somehow, whats even the point?
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>>173125253
I was thinking the same. Havent noticed much coverage from youtubers etc.
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Fuck you too, Kim.
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>>173125253
They expect word-of-mouth encouragement to join from the very same people they've been abusing for the past year.

And yes, I will go as far as to use that word. Nobody who continues to play this game has a healthy relationship with IMC.
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Wasn;t this error caused sometimes by the user xml getting corrupted and needing to be deleted? The one without the language setting in it.
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>>173125513
In some way this makes me feel sorry for IMC. Theyve done quite a lot in a year. More than some. Here they plan and execute this big event like some kind of kids. They most likely make pennies off of this game. Big event happens and they probably think it will spread by itself.

If I was a youtuber, why would I bother though? No one is paying me and for sure a video about an MMO that was declared long dead is trying hard to make a comeback after a year of updates. I'd get no views. Most TOS youtube channels barely get 2k views per video lol.

But yeah, I truly think the team (small team) behind TOS are trying. You'd have to love your job if you stayed with it for this long despite all the doom speak.

I... feel sorry for them. I truly do. Yes, they got paid but they must all know this isn't going to last too long.
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>>173125612
>They expect word-of-mouth encouragement to join from the very same people who have been shit talking them without reason for the past year.

Fixed that. they can't abuse people who don't play the game. People who do play the game aren't allowed to say anything positive because of the former group. Even if they got someone to play, those shitters would come out and meme the newbie to death.
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>>173125703
>You'd have to love your job if you stayed with it for this long despite all the doom speak.
Not being able to understand it helps.
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>>173109268
Anyone have any idea?
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This is fine.
I feel like I'll drop this fencer and continue playing my 103lvl 3wizard1linker to become a sorcerer. Without token sadly.
>>173125253
I just randomly noticed event announcement in steam, but there is no advertising. And I'm feeling bad about it, ToS has changed quite much for this year and deserves a fanbase.
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>>173126145
Are you a new character or an old one? You could basically always solo the 50 dungeon, but if you have any type of decent equipment it'd be pretty easy to do it alone with some potions.
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>>173126145
Try 18-19 cet for dungeon runs on Fedi
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>>173126290
That's a new character on a new account, so I don't think I'll be able to solo this dungeon. My wizard is on another.
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>>173125747
Fuck off, Kim.

Fix the game already.
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>>173126145
Who are you?
Anyways, try to shout, i know it's not how you are supposed to do dungeons but it works
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Actually, who can I become with 3wizardlinker? I feel memed.
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>>173126692
>You're not supposed to do dungeons by forming your own party
This mmo generation.

>>173126819
basically anything
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=919

>Crashing? What crashing? I don't see anyone crashing. That's crazy talk.
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>>173127519
I don't see anyone on shout complaining about crashing. Are you sure it's happening to more than just a couple people in this thread?
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Does the game still have the old way of monster respawn of being based on a map timer instead of their own timer after death?
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>>173127821
I just sometimes get crashes in loading screens.
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>>173127821
>how come i dont see people who cant login complain on shout about crashing
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>>173128178
Not being able to log in isn't crashing, it's not being able to log in.
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>>173128231
Barely an argument.
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WHERE IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT
They can't delay this again
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173128479
That video was the announcement.
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>>173128580
But they didn't detail anything!
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On lvl 106 should I just farm Siaulau mission?
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>>173128826
Dev blog coming soontm.
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>>173127821
>Plenty of people here experiencing it
>Plenty of people on forum experiencing it
>Plenty of people on steam forum experiencing it
>TBL matches consist of people praying they don't crash
>But I don't see much of it in shout at this given moment, so it's clearly not a big deal

Shut the fuck up and fix your game, Kim.
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>>173129320
People should stop playing tos on toasters.
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>>173129420
Yes, yes. It's clearly an issue of hardware and not IMC being shit programmers.
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>>173130153
Is it affecting 100% of people?
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How easy/hard is to farm silver nowadays? I remember when I stopped playing it all fell down to afk necro bee farm, boss cube mafia and hoping for rare drops.
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So from the new video we can conclude that pyro will be even more broken than it currently is.
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>>173130697
same except you can farm dungeons for a mil a day per char too or rush 290 for half a mil.
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>>173130697
Now it's about making as many characters as you can and doing rushes/full clears and saalus.
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http://tos.nexon.com/intro/20170405/index.aspx

There are 2 [?] boxes. Does that mean it's going to be 2 more days?
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Should I 3wiz1link3sorc1ff or 3wiz1link2sorc2ff? Really want to play sorcerer, but I'm not sure what would be better.
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>173127821
I don't see this post and there's no (You) so it doesn't exist.

>>173129420
>Meet official system requirements
>Stop playing tos on it
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If you get badges from others killing monsters and randomly killing monsters of any level yourself, what's the point of getting the specific quest? You don't even report to Donnes like it says you're supposed to.
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>>173133315
>He thinks system requirements for games mean "run at 100%" and not "minimum you can do with textures on low and effects off"
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>>173132774
>sorc1
Sorc1 has sucked* ever since they moved essential skills to c2 at the end of beta. The new attribute which basically amounts to "sorcerers are allowed to play rank 8 now" is c2 only.

*It's OK if all you care about are cat buffs and having an un-ccable pet to shoot kinos and shit when they cc you.
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>>173133420
>Crashing constantly and being unable to log in at all are just "minimum you can do with textures on low and effects off"
As expected of a faggot who doesn't even play any of the games he bashes.
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What does this even mean? I've played since beta and I still have no idea what this little barking sign over these creatures mean. Nothing else in the game does that.
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>>173133804
Why does this bother you?
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>>173134220
Because I don't know what it does.
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>>173134497
Just attack.
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>>173134497
It probably makes them ignore the aggro crag. Have you tried rounding up more than 5 of them at a time?
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>>173134847
>aggro crag
Fug. I meant aggro cap.
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>>173135194
I thought you were just joking
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Coffee is open on Fedimian[EU]
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>>173137027
contact Capyba
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>>173138015
Is this a 2hu?
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>>173138445
no
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>>173138015
Why something with "Small" in the name have cowtits?
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>>173138478
You sure? I'm pretty sure there's a tiny 2hu with a hammer named Sukuna
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>>173138867
yep
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>>173143040
The fern forest levels are the best levels.
>>
Leveling is quite fun now. I hope I'll get my 5th circle as sorcerer tomorrow.
Btw is that hard to make templeshooter useful and is he still the best summon? I have a card of him, but it's only 1 star.
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>"wow it's been one year already"
>"when was this guild made?"
>look through archive
>found the first guild post
>realize we used to have 2-3 threads per day
>now it's just 1 thread per 2-3 days

Anyway, please change the OP. neshoi is the new guild leader of Comfy
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>>173115513
Lemme guess, you had to follow a meta build to be able to get ET parties.
kek
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>>173133804
This is in Gytis right? It's specifically to do with one of the quests there.
>>
Remember that you're all super special, that's why you are here with me.
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>>173149306
Kim is that you?
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Comfy is still alive and kicking! Any varenians wanting to cross server or SEA ppl or aus fags are welcome to join <3

just pm neshoi
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How do I increase ice wall + gust damage? Is it affected by gust lvl or only by my matk?
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>>173133510
I meant sorc2ff2 or sorc3ff1. Though I feel like linker1 won't be enough.
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>not playing thaumaturge
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>>173132908
Yep, boss explosions are the number one cause of crashes right now. Enjoy!

>>173129420
>>173130482
And according to this faggot, it's totally your fault.
>>
Reminder to do your duty and pull reapers back to the bee area.
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>>173152667
step it up
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is this event worth doing with a character you aren't interested in leveling?
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Wew, there is some nice prices on Fedimian market
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>>173120034
Should I trust her and make a Warlock or just go for Necro anyway?
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>>173151109

matk. Icewall shards are purely matk+mapgic amplification+elemental damage. gust also enjoys matk. don't level gust past 1, it's shit.
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>>173154376
That's what I thought. Thanks, anon!
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>loading screen stuck and doesn't finalize
>but my character get loaded in the game
Why it keeps happening casually too?
>>
Best server to migrate on?
Tired of long queues
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>>173160062
Klai
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>>173160062
All server are the same
Fedimian is dead
Klaipeda is dead
Orsha is pointless
Varena is dead
Silute and Telsiai are fine
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>>173160163
>Klaipeda is dead
WRONG
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>>173160062
Any japanese one
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>>173160415
it is, Silute and Telsiai are the only alive server
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>>173160062
>where i can migrate?
>implyning you won't play an even bigger tree of queue due timezones
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>>173160560
I'm not that anon, but difference between my timezone and Japan, for example, is only 2 hours. GMT+7 sucks.
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>>173160415
Klai is dead, anon.
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>>173161580
This general is dead, anon.
>>
Is musketeer good
>>
>>173163065
ya its pretty good and is getting a third circle someday somewhere so its futureproofed right now
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>>173163065
It's good for using buttstroke and giving double damage for SRs, just like dragoons are good for using serpentine and giving double damage to doppels
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>>173163065
Only if you have a solmiki musket
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>>173127081
Back in my days, you'd spend a considerable amount of time forming a balanced party. Not only that, but you'd also spend a significant amount of time running to the actual dungeon.

And if you were doing hard dungeons, you also had to make sure people were adequately geared and spec'd. The horror! You had to interact with people!
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alive
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>>173126145
but anon I said I could've helped, but you said you had to go

you didn't use shouts either which I offered to do seeing you were new

you have to shout in front of every dungeon. it's how this game is now sadly.
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>>173166757
He did shout at least once.
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>>173163065
Wugusketeer!
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When are you going to give up on this game? It's dead, Kim. Literally less populated than RO pservers.
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>>173166919
on our server anyway if you want to get a random low lvl dungeon done today you have to be infront of the dungeon at prime server time and bring 5 megaphones at least and make the message stand out

thats what I had to do when leveling alts. also if a high lvl runs the dungeons with you as 2 man you a fuck ton of exp too. problem is finding a high lvl willing to run 50.
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>>173167115
ToS>jumping between multiple RO private servers with inflated rates and "balancing" based on whatever shit the GMs like.
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>>173167115
private servers are not run by companies, they have no PR they need to do. a private server just lists its ass on a top 10 private server list and then hopefully gets lucky.

also every pserver has admins playing in the server and cheating. every pserver has a form of Donate and Win. every pserver is 10x, which isn't classic ro. every pserver is fucking < 100 players last time I checked.

ro is old af fa.m, I'm old as fuck. I don't wanna go play ro again.
>>
heh now I have 7x symbol of wealth hats, what do? any new players want one?
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need some help, I want to migrate away from controllers

the reason is simple: it's too complicated to just handle like 12x skills. can someone who has used mouse mode on swords and ranged alike show me how you setup binds and how you move? ive played a whole year on controller so this will take me some time
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>>173168303
Exchange them for medals dumbo.
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>>173168585

>12

wtf dude, I use controller and I have 40 binds
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>>173168840
cant anymore heh and when you could it mightve been a bannable offence

I didn't want to get banned so I figured the next best thing would be to sell them on market. no one took the bait lol. sometimes I hate how pure this server is.

>>173169005
I find it annoying to do the R2+L2 to get a second set of skills. it never feels natural and say on a wizard or cleric, that is fine! but on a sword with 6 to 7 skill combos it gets tough.
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>>173169093
>cant anymore
They already patched it? Or did they remove the hat from the blessing cube?
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>>173167675
>google ro private servers
>sort by rating
>first server has 1200 players, 5x/3x ratios, doesn't run renewal shit and has a cash shop that's less broken than iRO's

Literally the only advantage licensed RO servers have is the fact they keep getting newer episodes from gravity while it takes longer for them to be adapted to the emulated servers.
I was going to mention server longevity as well, but considering how many licensed servers have closed down over the years while the first private server I found has been running for a decade, I'd say that's a moot point.
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>>173169264
private servers are a den of bots dude and there is nothing fair in them. if you want to slave away in a server like that by all means.
>>
>>173169264

isn't that server the one with a lot of "custom" quest items? this server is trash
>>
Hello /tosg/

I'm thinking about picking this game up; but it appears the class system might be a bit much for me.
I see that there's some mounted classes... if I want to be a mounted swordsman tank, is this possible/recommended? If so, which classes should I choose? Also any must-know tips?

Thanks in advance.
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>>173171328
>tank

this game doesnt really have any tanks so thats the first thing to really understand. Its all DPS and support classes.
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>>173171328
Don't play this game.
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>>173171328
Don't play this piece of shit. It gets worse each day and is quickly plummeting to a below 1000 player population. Additionally, all of the guilds on the most 'populated' server are pure normie cancer.
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>>173168585
swordsman can be a bit annoying because you have to double click to run and that's not always easy with this game. You can just use the keyboard though. You'll also still aim your attacks at where the mouse pointer is pointing instead of where you are facing, which is the most annoying thing about this game.

Also if you've never used mouse mode before, you need to be aware IMC are horrible, horrible beyond compare at making interfaces and you cannot click anywhere near the areas that list parties or party members on the left side, quests on the right side, or over the chat window, if it is open. This means you cannot even mouse over it to drag a skill you're moving a targeting circle for.

Also some things still can't or have serious trouble being interacted with by the mouse, and for some reason IMC didn't think to have the right mouse button use secondary attacks or have any in game way to assign an interact button other than the same left mouse button you use to attack with.
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>>173171328
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/

Read up on what skills can be used while mounted, because not all can. You will probably use spears, since the mounted classes re primarily spear users. Ask people in game for help because this general is just full of people who don't play obsessed with wishing the game dead even though it's lived for over a year and will outlive whatever shit game they like.
>>
>>173169264

RO private servers are a trap. They almost invariably die within months and they are, nearly without fail, run by egomaniacs, retards, or some mix of both.
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>>173172120
>Implying the guilds on other servers are any different

>>173171328
You can be 'tanky', but not a tank. There is no class in this game that holds agro in place unless they are a DPS with a ton of gear and health. That means any class can do this. Just get enough gear farmed and Pyro wizard with 100k health can hold any boss in place and be unkillable with transcended gear.

Sword mounted is called Catapract. They are the fastest class in the game in terms of speed but their damage output comes from other circles entirely. You end up being a Catagoon (mix of Cata+Dragoon C2). There is a final rank mounted class too, but no one takes it as it focuses purely on PvP which is near dead.

Problem with sword class is that if you want to be viable end game you will end up farming a metric ton of money to do it. Right now the trend is to make a Pyro or MikoDiev, because they need almost no money to be viable.
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>>173174758
I'm not too worried about being viable at endgame. I don't typically stay with MMOs long enough for that to matter. They are too grindy.

Once I hit the level cap on any given game I rarely play beyond that. Thanks for the info though.
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>>173174340
>They almost invariably die within months and they are, nearly without fail, run by egomaniacs, retards, or some mix of both.

Sounds like ToS
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>>173174979
Then go Cata3>DragoonC2. The first 2 circles is entirely up to you. Most choose SwordC3 for Restrain and Pain Barrier so you cannot be knocked back almost never and all your skills cause stuns. Other choices are Pelt > Hoplite, which gives taunt (useless later) and a Guardian buff which gives evasion and physdef and hoplite gives some extra skills and 50 to 70 crit rate and +3 AoE attack. It's all what you want. I think sword C3 is more futureproof as crit rate becomes less and less important the higher the levels go (or more demanding and 50 isn't anything at all anymore).
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>>173174993

It's been a year so it's outlived 90% of RO servers. Six more months and it'll outlive 99%.
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>>173172751
>You'll also still aim your attacks at where the mouse pointer is pointing instead of where you are facing, which is the most annoying thing about this game.
That's literally why I use mouse mode though, turning is way faster than other modes since you don't even need to move.
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>>173175483
ToS isn't even alive right now.
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dont talk to me or
my pyros ever again

https://youtu.be/WUhOnX8qt3I

have you made your pyro today /tosg/? easy mode awaits!
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This just in! You can use fireballs to dupe money!
Invest big right now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsGSRKhxEs

Is nothing sacred to the Pyros?!
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>>173179246
>This just in!
No you retard, that was already fixed even.
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>>173146190
What happened to kat?
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>>173179470
he still lurks and spams 'retard' every thread while sucking his fellow discord shitters cock while playing other games
he's not relevant at all to the general, just another sad lonely shitposter who everyone even forgot existed
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should i change of job? or be an acolyte forever?
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>>173179445
Isn't this guy on Klai? I remember being super triggered by his fucking name being spelled wrong.
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>>173180354
>says (SEA) on the TP package
retard
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>>173180297
>tfw tos town themes are shit compared to ro town themes
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>>173180558
I dunno I thought maybe he was a dumbass and bought the wrong TP and that's why it wasn't registering, what is even the point of the vid?
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>>173180297

RO is so ugly now.
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>>173180297
I went undetected as a botter on an official server for months. How did I do it? I used sword + cleric. I made a custom bot that would play together. One follows the other and heals him.

Then during day I'd login on sword and the cleric would follow me around. 2x clients running at the same time. If someone asked "bot?" I'd just reply nope. "cleric bot?" alt+tab "no, are you?" etc. I even joined some of those giant grind parties. Only there did people become suspicious and only because they themselves bot do they notice the tiny quirks bots do like walk in a pattern.

Still, never got banned. Got both characters to Grand Knight and High Priest or whatever the rebirth classes were. Still, I couldn't get any MvPs done due to lack of gear. Even if I camped say Moonlight it took me too long to kill it and dealing with 2 chars at once. Some guy would just appear and kill the thing in 5 seconds, leaving me with nothing.

RO is ridiculously easy to bot and get away with. Almost everyone I know also used bot programs (and this was allowed) to setup a shop. Since you cannot just make a shop and log out, you have to keep the game running - so people used bot programs because they use almost no resources and the bot programs feature a way to just code in what you're selling, how much and how many and it was super fast and efficient. You could even tell the bot to go "resupply" and it'd go to the closest shop, buy pots or w/e and run back and setup shop. Now in TOS you ain't got anything like that. Shops make no money and are a bother to setup.

tl;dr - RO is 90% bots, by players. Not gold sellers.
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>>173181225
okay but i like ro and tos
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Can someone explain to me why Sarkmis is better than Gale Slasher? Does this general have any Doppels left?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIToxDcK-P4

Also is it really 860 blessed shards just for Stage 7?
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>>173181461
post more butts

sarkmis has 3 slots and is stronger as a weapon
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>>173181461

>83

how much gems he used?
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>>173181461
>Maggi's art in a style that's not her normal one
???
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Has anyone successfully done the hethran badge quest to get Rafenes claws? I've killed it a few times in the lake mission like it says but nada.
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Monk status: OK
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>>173182896
Keep being an awesome monk anon!
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>>173183116
show ASScessory
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>>173183408
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>He still plays this game
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>miko

STOP WITH THIS MEME

>my team
>cleric 2 diev 3 kabba inq
>miko
>enemy team
>cleic 2 diev 3 kabba inq
>oracle

Oracle always wins.
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>login
>all friends gone
>no guilds
welp
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>>173184986
>>173184986
Oracle is really good for PvP.
The slowly moving circle of erasure wins out a lot.
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>>173185653
Hi anon!
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What class is the best for active farming?
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>>173186348
Pelt 1 dopp 1 scout 1 linker 1 thaum 1 corsair 1 oracle 1 war 1
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SOMEHOW MY PVP RIVAL IS DODGING THE MATCH BY QUITTING AND NOT LOSING POINTS

HOW?
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Stupid trick, the caltrops dropped by brown imps in workshop can drop monster badges even if you have no active quest.
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>>173186348
Templar
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>>173186815
Why is no one on this general useful? Surely you want more players on your dead ass game.
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>>173186920
>wanting to get people to waste their time on this garbage game
Everyone's pretty kind if you look at it this way.
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>>173186348
WL2 for low mobs

Pyro2Link2Thaum2 for high mobs or 290solo

maybe scout3 for mid lvl dung solo, but that is old

and ofc >>173186886
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>>173187003
Why do you guys still play if it's so bad? I just want a cute Diablo. I just want to murder masses of mobs and make money.
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>>173186920
I am. But then again it is just me. If I give advice anons pretty much shit on your advice for not being perfect, so what's the point? When you ask them to correct you, they won't. Basically most of the people in this general are angry little teenagers who don't want to help you at all. They have very short term goals in mind.
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>>173186920
You are impatient. This general like all generals ahve trolls and helpful people like this one >>173187157
Our IP count is kinda low now so thread is slow.
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>>173187260
well to bad you got korean casino
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How do we save Corsair?
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What's more important for your typical SR build, orange pistol or orange crossbow?
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>>173188695
Nerf Melstis Ausrine combo so that Doppel is harder to use, which might encourage people to make missile damage teams. Get playerbase to realize it's geared to be support/party leader first and farmer second.
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>>173188695
Make IMC play their own game for starters.
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>>173188695
Release Buccaneer R9 hidden class.
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>>173189354
>CorsairC3Buccaneer can use one-hand swords on both hands, daggers, pistols AND CANNONS.

>yfw
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>>173189896
Why is she drooling?
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>>173189045
> support/backseat classes first

Fuck off. Clerics and Mages get enough utility as it is.
This game has too many ways to mitigate or avoid damage.
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>>173190069
Lubrication
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>>173189896
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>>173190092
What are you talking about even? Corsair's always been meant to be party support and a damage booster, that's why they keep fucking with Jolly Roger.
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>I WANT MY FARMING SWORD TO BE AN OVERPOWERED PYRO THAUMA TOO
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>>173190280
Too bad there isn't a single useful instance of Jolly Roger.

>>173190430
>lol if u want 2 farm just make a pyro thaum
>lol if u want dmg just play doppel
>lol if u want supp just play PD2
>lol dont play anthing but these classes becuz i dont want to make a new character
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>>173190781
Yes because right now it's outclassed, conceptually being a party missile damage and utility character is fine it's just that loldopplepyro comps are superior.
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>>173190941
Who cares? Literally the only place it matters is in some dumb instance like ET which obviously corsair was never designed for. Look at pillaging, corsair is for party farming and grinding, not some DPS race bullshit.
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>>173191395
What do you even work towards with your grind if you don't want to do ET? Do you just get more and more silver for no purpose?
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how to fix corsair? make it a secret class famalamirinos and make shinobi a 3 circle shitter
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Make DWA work with Shinobi clones and Corsair will be decent.
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>>173191554
This anon is right. If you aren't a DievMiko or a Wiz3>Pyro3 you need to fucking quit this game. There are no other builds that work as well as those 2. You can be a support slave if you like (Meistis, Chrono) but those are the only exceptions.
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>>173191890
Also make double weapon assault work with just pressing and holding down the attack button to continually do alternate weapon strikes.
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>>173187260
>I just want a cute Diablo. I just want to murder masses of mobs and make money.
The problem is you have an aggro cap of 5 usually and it's hard to even get 5 enemies together outside of an instanced dungeon. The only real places like that are Dina Bee Farm and Demon Prison, but whenever people go there to murder masses of mobs and make money, the rest of the community gets butthurt and begs the GMs to fill the place with special bosses. .
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>>173192495
>doesn't know about quest agro
kys
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Adding classes that are logical progressions of others is okay. Making them the only viable option is not and it's also bad game design. They should improve the game's design so that you can use multiple weapons at the same time on each hand, and it swaps you without having to do the weapons on/off routine.

Things need proper scaling, too. Things like Agni and Cassis Crista are unacceptable.
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>>173192575
That still has a cap of like 5.
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>>173192495
People don't go to Dina Bee Farm or Demon Prison to play the game. They go there to run a bot that uses invocation every 60 seconds as Warlock, or to summon minions and go AFK for a week as Necro.
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>>173192752
retard

>>173192715
No one believes Agny will stay this overpowered. Only retards are gearing up their pyro's with Orange recipes and blessed gems.
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>>173192840
Playing the game is just grinding money and shards. They're playing as much as the people who just log on to run 290 every day, except they're playing smarter, not harder.
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>>173192981
You're right man, let me load up my bots and AFK in prison, as god intended.
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CAN I HAVE MORE THAN 2 LODGES?
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>>173191554
That's a flaw in the core game design, not class design.
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I can just let necro minions kill shit in most non-290 dungeons and not really actually actively clear them too.
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>>173193251
No one is stopping you from creating a necro and or a warlock though.

Botting ofcourse is forbidden as that requires an external program to use.

But summoned AI is prime game. You can't roam the whole map with this kind of legal AFKing.
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>>173193550
to >>173193251
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>>173193550
In efficient. Or do you want to just alt tab and move your necro inch by inch?
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Redpill me on Shinobis
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>Verifying a few times put a random assortment of all the previous loading screens in my game now
Weird, but at least there's none of the godawful ones.
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>>173193564
Technically it's not against the rules to load up 9 virtual machines with Necros and take all the spots at Dina Bee/DP2 but I think most people would agree it's against the spirit of the game. For some reason Necro alts are considered totally fair game though.
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>>173193564
Which one is the most useful?
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>>173193860
>Technically it is not against the rules to have 3 sweatshop workers be paid to run 290 dungeons on 21 different accounts of characters to farm silver

Yeah... A lot of things are technically not against the rules that can farm a lot of silver. These extremes like dvine and jace having alt necro accounts up the wazoo are a thing. They have insane dedication though to actually do it.
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>>173193878
If you have a lot of time to spare to actively farm. Then Warlock is better.
If you have lots of work time in the office where you just alt tab then necro is ok for you.

If you truly have tons of time then pyro2thaum2linker2sage is the best material farmer in the game and sells their farmed stuff for a lot on the market.
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>>173193682
>alt tab
>Not having two screens
Can click around without even looking while watching anime or whatever.
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Why can't I stop playing
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>>173194132
It doesn't take insane dedication though, all it takes is leveling 2 characters. It's not fun for everyone else to know that "technically if I want to be efficient I should make a bunch of different steam accounts and play nothing but necromancers up till r8 and then reroll".

It's not just dvine and Jace either, I've seen a ton of obvious Necro alt characters when leeching people at Constructors.
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>>173194437
If you wanted to be truly efficient, you'd make a bunch of accounts and just run dailies all day every day.
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I want to go Cata, someone give me point distribution please.
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>>173194361
While at work you can't afford to divide your attention to a game on the 2nd monitor.

>>173194437
Well the thing about this game is therea re tons of different types of farmer characters that are effecient in their ways.

Necros seems to be most effective for afk farming silver.
Warlock is most effecient in gathering reset vouchers, gem exp and golden anvils.
Corsair and PyroThaum are most effecient in farming DPK base materials of mobs that are frequent.
Oracles are most efficient in getting those low population monster drops.
Scouts3 are best at clearing dungeons for silver. Most efficient active farmer there is for daily time investment.
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>>173194420
It's really easy though. Just try to think of a long term goal, think of how much effort it will take, think of what you will do once you reach that goal. Realize how boring and pointless this game is.
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>>173194651
1CON and 2DEX


Stat rebalance might change this though. But IMC won't be stupid enough to not hand out Stat reset potions when STAT rebalance comes.
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>>173194816
I meant skill points, but that's also helpfull, It's my first swordsman since beta
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>>173194651
Full DEX.
You get around 4k health free from pet. You'll get health from hats. It's the norm.

DEX and nothing else. Even if you go Hoplite route.
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>>173194693
You shouldn't be playing games at work at all.
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>>173195124
But I'm not. I only have it minimized!
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>>173193860

Mergen got banned for this.
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>>173194891
>getting health on hats
>instead of phys/mag + ele damage

why? everything in this trash game hits you for fucking 1 or 3000000, just get damage
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>>173195619

you aren't really smart eh?

of course you use the hp hat when really needed
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Is it worth the farming hell for a 2-slot Pajoritas Dagger if I already have a 2-slot Crystaras Dagger?
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>>173196316
If you care about that difference in property damage.
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>>173195619
But that's changing soon! >>173116606
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>>173117545
You didn't know, anon? We're still in early alpha!
Kim mistakenly put the game on Steam as a normal release but it was supposed to be Early Access.
We're expected to enter beta testing in early 2018 and aim for a release in Fall 2020.
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>>173196316

hoo boy, i don't even want to think about the amount of rubblems you'd have to farm to get a 2 slot pajoritas. when i farmed zinutekas for small crystaras i would get maybe one 2 slot for every 10 dropped.
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>>173195590
Mergen got banned for buying several accounts with RMT, the reports of dina bee just directed IMC to investigate them.
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>love farming / grinding
>best class is a boring testicle spawner / linker
this is why this game keeps dying
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>>173194693
Necros aren't designed to afk farm, the GMs have even said at the GM meetup that they're thinking of ways to stop it without gimping the class. All that other stuff enables playstyles in which you play the game in different ways, but nobody can play for 24 hours straight; Necro farmers can and do, often on multiple accounts.
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>>173197753
The devs need to just give the bird to everyone asking for "muh percent scaling" on everything, fucked the game once with trans and twice with Agny. The linear systems in r7 were fine, just a bit rough around the edges.
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>>173197554

that's why I bought one for 6m. the guy asked 8m first, but one bought (I was still trying to drop one). but as soon as he put it for 6m I bought, Best thing I did recently. The item is easily worth 10m. Painful farming + rng and while the one slot version is great for magic users, the price dropped fast so you couldn't say that the failed one slot rng at least paid for the time farming
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>>173197794
And isn't that an interesting thing on itself.
Being able to have minions to farm for you albeit very inefficiently.

AFK farming should stay as a viable play style. The question then becomes hat is the fair price of afking that won't have active farmers in a jiffy.

if afk farming earns 100k/hr then would afk faming be fair if active farming gave 500k/hr?

Ponder the thought. Right now dungeon rushing gives 1.2million/hr assuming 20 minutes per set.
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>>173197554
Are the appraisal rates that bad? I got really lucky with my Crystaras getting iton the first one so I wasn't sure, but since apparently Pajoritas takes thousands of kills, I'll just stick to my Crystaras then, thanks.

>>173197753
If you enjoy the farming, why not just use a class you also enjoy regardless of going slower?
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>>173197998
You should never make money by not playing the game, it's an MMO not fucking cookie clicker. There is no "fair" amount of money that should be made while afk. Don't frame it like afk farming and active farming are two sides of equally valid coins, afk farming is a result of players exploiting class systems that many designers intentionally leave out of their games for exactly this reason.
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>>173197753
Eh. Scout earns pretty decently too on 240 dungeons and high population flying maps like Pystis forest and Yudejan.

For swordies best farmer is corsair for those sweet sweet steals. Seriously due to the change in drop formula the steal is really great for mat farming.

And clerics well they have oracles.
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>>173198324
I'm all for variety.
Necro farming requires only two things.
To level a character up and to pick a place to park once in a while.
And thus it earns only a small amount of silver.
Supposedly.

You wouldn't be mad if necros only earn 25k/hr right? Surely. Just having this interesting option is pretty cool at least.
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>>173198696
25k/hour is still too much for not playing, that's the equivalent of 2 characters doing their 290 rushes each day. (1 mill per day) After 8 hours of sleep it's still like you did 2 rushes of 290.

It was interesting at first when somebody first figured it out, it's not interesting now when it's causing a ton of players to simply say "actually I don't want to farm anything, I'll just wait for someone else to farm it and then buy it with my alt's silver."
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I wish I could play without crashing every time I go to saalus or hit the lavenzard in 290
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>>173166757
I shouted several times, but there is no use. But whatever, at least I cleared lvl100 dungeons without problems using another character, though I can't feel my damage as wiz3linker.
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>>173199270
It's time to join me on the other side, anon.
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>>173199226
2 rushes is as much mindless activity as picking a place to park.

20 minutes to do 3 rushes for 400k earning for that set. So only 40 minutes of gameplay to earn 800k silver on those 2 characters

25k/hr * 8 hours of necro afk time = 200k.


You need to work on your math to not seem like you are misrepresenting the opponent on the discussion.
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>>173199452

I don't want off Mr. Kim's ride!
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>>173199530
>2 rushes is as mindless activity as picking a place to park

It doesn't fucking matter if it's brainless because it's 20 minutes OF ACTIVITY. But fine, keep pretending Necros don't make any money and that there's somehow an opportunity cost to leaving it going while you sleep.
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Here are some infos from Silute meetup:

- Papaya said R9 will come this year (well duh)
- Peach said that indeed there are plans for other accessories like Agny that will increase damage for other elements, but it won't be here that soon
- Sadhu buffs are not in top priority right now, but Peach wants a Sadhu uprising and is Sadhu all the way
- Someone asked for beard options for male characters and Papaya said that would be great
- Upon asked if there are any plans for improving animations for some skills, Papaya said that this isn't top priority atm
- As expected, they can't say a word about Appraiser or the stat rebalancing, we have to wait for the next announcements and posts in the Dev Blog
- They're planning improvements for the guild system and they also don't really like guild neutrality, but it seems like things will stay like this
- They'll have an announcement about rank resets in the near future
- Papaya's favorite build is Catagoon
- Mouse mode is being worked on, but the game's main focus is the keyboard mode
- They faced technical difficulties when trying to do events for returning players, that's why we're having an event only for new players
- It would be nice to have checkpoints in Solmiki areas since we get disconnected frequently and they'll pass the idea to the dev team
- They miss giant companions and I don't know if they really meant it about new companions, but "baby dragon will be super cute"
- Some boss cards can't be obtained right now because of the dungeons removed from the game, but they're working on it

There were more useful questions (afk farming, featherfoot condition, costumes, etc.) but my game crashed and I lost the chat logs, so this is all I remember from the meetup.
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>>173200103
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>>173199405
Try linking and then using magic missle. Most mobs melt from that combo.
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>>173201241
That's true while questing, but I feel like this damage is too small for instances. At least I already have a templeshooter.
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>>173197794
The class is based around having minions kill stuff for you. They either kill stuff for you or they do not. There's no way to change it without ruining it except maybe if you direct them to areas. They should change the fucking areas instead of nerfing classes because people cry about one abused aspect of them.
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>>173201558
At least you can clear yours. As soon as I entered mine, solo too, got the VGA crash taking away the run. This was Uphill. Was only doing it to complete the event. Now I can't complete the event at all today, again.
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>>173201850
>Now I can't complete the event at all today, again.
You can pick up other people's drops. Just partner with someone who got an easy to complete one and have them let you get 10.
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any bots? I don't feel like grinding.
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>>173202190
No one online, server dead, all friends quit. When I login I basically have no one to talk to. Game is dead anon. I made a ton of friends in the back but now it's impossible. People just glance at your gear and see that it is not some Stage 8 whale setup and then walk away.
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>>173200830
>greenreaper
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>>173202384
sucks to be on orsha.
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Actually, where are goldseller bots?
>>173201850
I suppose it's somehow connected to a hardware. I got a VGA crash relatively often on my laptop and never had one on my PC.
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>>173202606
>implying
Doesn't matter what server anon. All of them are dead. All that is left are cliques.
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>>173203016
>>173202384
thanks miss info
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New drop system is shit
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>>173203190
Lol I knew people would complain, people didn't actually care they just want it to be easier.
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>>173203902

It's actually worse now
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>>173204117
It's sometimes easier and sometimes harder, nature of RNG. At least so far for me it's pretty variable from 300-700 for orange matts, not as easy now as initial HG patch though.
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>>173193860
Technically it is against the rules.
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>>173204327

It's DPK, feels like what they previously had but worse.
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>>173204384
Ah really? They don't seem to really police that though, Mergen was an exception since it was way too obvious.
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>>173204384
This one confirms virtual machines aren't allowed. IMC put in some measures a while ago specifically to prevent the game from running on virtual machines, too.

The rules also include
>You may not engage or attempt to engage in any activities that might hinder the natural progression of the Game.
>You shall not continuously act in a way to disrupt other players' gameplay.
These would cover blocking off an entire zone with your personal army of afk accounts.
Which cover blocking off a whole zone and preventing players at its level from using it.

The GMs have said IMC doesn't like afk farming and is looking for ways to discourage it, like the reapers and spawn changes we've seen.
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oh
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>>173204567
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>>173204546
Yeah, they don't have enough people to police anything. They have a handful of guys to cover the whole group of steam servers.
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>>173204117
It can't be.

Old system:
>DPK of mob is 10,000
>Random number between 9000 and 11,000 is added
>You kill 8999 monsters, nothing
>You kill 9500 monsters, nothing
>You kill 9567 mobs, drop
>Counter resets to another value between 9000 and 11,000

New system:
>DPK of mob is 10,000
>You kill 1 monster, 1/10,000 drop chance (0.01%)
>Each kill increases the chance by 0.01%
>You kill 5000 mobs, you're at 50%
>Counter resets to 0.01% when you get a drop

So it can't be, because more kills always increase your chance while with old DPK it didn't happen.

Unless they implemented it wrong, or of I'm misunderstanding how it works. My math ain't perfect though.
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>>173204691
Implementing it wrong is a possibility, since it was wrong in our favor before the last patch. Some science is needed to figure out what's actually happening now.
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>>173204117


>worse
>literally makes the player commmit SEVERAL hours non-stop to get something

old system is shit. now I can set my mind to drop ANY item even if I do it 20 minutes per day. And I still have the option to go full autism to get the sure drop.
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>>173204691
I'm guessing the DPK values were increased too to accommodate the new system, the chances would get too high too fast otherwise.
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>>173204567

LOL
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>>173204882

I'm at 827 galoks for a whole day with 0 drop. It's either broken or it isn't working right.
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>>173204865
Maybe it sucks for very low DPK items, because they all start at low % chances now. To explain:

Old system
>DPK is 500
>Random number between 1 and 500 is added
>You kill 50 mobs, drop!
>Counter resets to another value between 1 and 500.

New system
>DPK is 500
>You kill 1 monster and it's 1/500 chance (0.2%)
>You kill 50 mobs, no luck, you're at 10% chance now.
>You kill 100 mobs, no luck, you're at 20% chance now
>You kill 200 mobs, no luck, you're at 40% chance now
>You kill 201 mobs, drop!
>Counter resets back to 0.2%

GMs did explain that DPK had these in between values that it would randomly variate. However they didn't tell us by how much. So it might be that some lower DPK items had huge swindles, which would explain why some of you have this scenario in old DPK:

>I got an item in 20 kills!
>Next one took 200 kills...
>Then it took 50 kills again!
>Next one took an hour...

While now...
>Took me 200 kills to get my first drop.
>Took another 300+ for the other.
>This is taking forever now!

Just a theory though. Don't kill me.
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>>173200103
>Silute

Do they even have people in the staff that speak Spanish and/or Portuguese?
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>>173205615
They have one person at the korean office who has a BR-sounding name.
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>>173205615
Yes, Peach speaks Portuguese. Last time, during november's meetup, she(?) got mad and scolded us in portuguese (and in caps lock) because people were misbehaving, flooding the chat and asking too many questions at the same time. This time, the meetup went smooth and the staff had a nice talk with everyone. It wasn't even necessary to form a line to make questions.
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>>173205298
Have you been killing only Galoks? Did any other enemies you kill drop items? Did you ever leave the map?

There's still a lot of factors that aren't pinned down too, but it would make sense if they raised DPK numbers to compensate for the chances now.
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>>173206536

I didn't leave the map, I did kill other monsters, I got a bunch of nodachi's from Galoks and i even got a few gems from other monsters. If they raised DPK that would be horrible but what I'd like to know is if this is some sort of self DPK.
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Where is my monk?
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>>173206781
You killed 827 Galoks without leaving or crashing? Wow.

The dev blog seemed to imply that the chances are individual kill based, but it's unclear whether killing other enemies still lowers or uses up the count.
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It's nice that the event board is only in Klaipeda. That way new players can see that the game is not so dead and actually get some inspiration to level seeing their rank 8 elders
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>>173208638
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>>173190187
Sourceee?
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>not loving the new system

that one is used for a +2 matk collection, used to be 100 dpk according to tosbase. thanks to this conversation you guys reminded of it and here I am...
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tfw IMC realizes from this event that there's no high level bugs and moves the Dina Bee/Austeja questline to 300s, scaling the enemies appropriately.
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>>173209163
New DPK adjustment is great for low DPK items. Fucking hell for high DPK ones.
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Are you feeding properly your cards?
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>>173209337
Yudejan forest has tons of high level bugs.
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>>173209970
Only one type of enemy is bug and it's the least populous.
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>>173209337
Orange Grummers
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>>173210384
Welp. Guess no other choice. Run Uphill.
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>>173209918
>Are you feeding properly your cards?
Are you speaking properly your second language?
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Should I do one of these, but updated for a Pyro?
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>>173210496
Ignore and report blogposters. He thinks he's relevant to the thread only because he's the only gleader on a dead server.
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>>173210489
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying there's not many bugs that are high level. I haven't gotten insects yet.
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>>173210496
more like third language, second is my local dialect
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>>173210509

Do it
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>>173210841

where are you from
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>I'll just farm one orange matt and go to bed at a reasonable hour
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>>173211012
north italy
>>173211027
go to sleep and farm in the morning
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>>173210509
>>173210921
First this. Hope I still have the PSD somewhere.
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>>173211515
>forgot image 80 second wait
thanks /vg/ post rulesu

what spec should I do? Pyro3? Pyro2? Linker? Or Wiz3>Pyro3>FILLER>Sage? A lot of Pyro variants.
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>>173211626
the farmer. its most common
>Pyro2 Link2 Thaum2 xx
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>>173211626
all variants are pretty much the same
Sage +% dmg attributes aren't even worth consideration
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Oh, they updated to include the VGA errors now.

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=919
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>>173211626
Only pyro and thaum attributes have prices worth considering.
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>>173211626
Do one for Wugu Mergen
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>>173204691
>Old system:
>>DPK of mob is 10,000
>New system:
>DPK of mob is 10,000
That's where you're wrong though: Orange mats dpk went from ~600 to at least ~1000, it's likely they even doubled it.
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>>173212397
no
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Is this spreadsheet FULL OF SHIT or what? I just spend an hour trying to get an eaglestar leather chest

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

Then I went and kill another mob and got 2 of them. Fucking mad right now. Fuck me!
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>>173212863
Yeah that one's really weird, just find what others say on the forum instead, if it's not listed on tosgbase itself.
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>>173212863
Multiple creatures can drop each item. Someone needs to make a better list.
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Do cards still stack, like chapp / glass mole?
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>>173214329
Cards do.
Potion buffs dont.
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>>173214481
I'm asking about those two cards only. Yes or no?
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>>173214614
If you have eight 10 star chapp or glass mole cards equipped when you use a potion it'll be 80% of the respective attack. But if you use a potion again while already having the effect it will do nothing but refresh the buff.
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>>173214732

Just to clarity even more, you can't stack effects as in using two different sp potions like alche+keistas, it's just refreshes the buff, but you can "prolong" it by rotating different potions (ex: one for each cyclone charge).
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And people defend the Transcendence system.

>2 years with 10 alts, every day, not missing a single day
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>>173214909
Yeah, you can no longer melstis meme up your physical attack or magical attack. Can only refresh the buff now, still can be useful though.
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>>173215273
I've heard you still can use Meistis to freeze the Chapp / Glass Mole effect infinitely. Bring a Chrono and a Krivis can keep Meistis up pretty much forever.
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C3 krivis or C3 Diev for Druid C3?
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>>173215390
You can still do that. But the melstis memes was using varnalesa and keista posts or pine shrooms to stack the mole effect as many times as quickly as you can multiplying your phys/mag attack into absurd numbers.
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>>173215390

he was referring about the non stop re-use (because melstis would keep each time you used saved) so during a infinite melstis one could eat a lot of potions "stacking" the effect up to hitcap each hit.

So there was actually two "stacks" thing (that mechanically is literally the same thing), one via bursting two/three different when solo and other via melstis saving your first usage, then the second, then the third up to kimfucking levels and etc.

Just to clarify even more, you can only refresh the buff via different sources AND you can use melstis+pass+laima to keep it up forever.

Both cards are still great because Melstis itself is still godly - nothing can compete with a +80% atk/matk buff for the current top dps classes, lol
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>>173211626
Ooooh Do mine Do mine!
It's RogueC2
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>>173211945
At least they are addressing it I guess.
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What is giving this thing a 5% magic defense buff? It's on the marketplace by the way.
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>>173216195
Enchanter buffies
It's probably a leftover visual glitch
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>>173099337
that sounds exactly like what happened in icbt2.
>add more keys for people to join it
>same update has the touhou boss bullet shooting randomly crash you with a very high probability
>don't even hold an emergency maint to fix it, so more than half the current playerbase quits because they can't advance through the story to get more exp cards
they left it for a full week, in a one month beta.
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>>173216543
I wonder how that even happened.
ICBT1 tohou bullets were doing fine.

How did they fuck up so hard with their code. It's like they just keep adding to it instead of optimizing the call functions.
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Here you go. I even included Agny cost.

This is 70% on all major damage attributes + Thauma buffs maxed. If you don't count Thauma at all it's below < 20m.
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>twf you'll get your orange soon
>now you are forced to run Saalus
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>>173217102
see >>173215087
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>>173217097
>stopping at 70% on pyro
Most pyro I know have 90-100 attributes
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>>173217153
Look at the other comparisons. They all stop at 70, some rare occasion (like druid) I went to 80 since they have almost no damage attributes.

It's to compare different class costs. If doppel in comparison went to 90-100 they would have costs up in 300m. Dingus.
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>>173217097
Remove flare. No one takes it.
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>>173217269
It's a good 1 pointer and an extra tick. It works off of Flame Ground, Firewall and Fireballs. Anyone worth their salt would take one point of it. As a Pyro you have almost no skills to rotate so once you've used all 4 of your skills it's a good filler.

If I removed that then the costs of a Pyro would be ridiculously low.
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>>173217243
These charts are retarded anyway, you dont' stop at 80 on cyclone and don't waste silver on doppel c3 skills since they suck.

You're basically just counting how many damaging skills a class have.
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>>173217243
>>173217408
but Pyro is a rank2 class. everyone should at least get them to 80% or more like 90-100%
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>>173217408
>As a Pyro you have almost no skills to rotate
Nigger check out Fireball CD.
>I have never played pyro
You have always stuff to cast on pyro, you're not an ele
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>>173217442
This
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>>173197917
People asked for scaling on skills, not on fucking gear.
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>>173217442
>you dont' stop at 80 on cyclone
What does that have to do with comparing costs of 2 classes to be effective? Are you incapable of reading what is on the image entirely?

These are for comparisons on how to make effective characters, not how much it costs to go full retard 90%.

>You're basically just counting how many damaging skills a class have.
Oversimplification of what these are. You still need to read what these images say. It's compare DPS classes and their costs. A Pyro has very little to no costs almost compared to another class. Getting to 70% in a skills damage is a cost effective level. Going 10 more levels in these almost double their costs. From 70 to 80 especially on classes like Doppel, you'd be spending over 300m to do this on all their R8 skills.

Sorry facts trigger you so much you start so sperg like an autist and miss the point.
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>>173217815
Do one for this build please :^)
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31456bagh
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>>173217967
>no skills
about 0 silver
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>>173218027
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31456bagh.11214151.11213143.11213141.21314171.11213141.11213141.112131415161.1121415171
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>>173217967
oh god

What is that build anyway? Costume collector?
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>>173218073
I just picked a build with lots of damaging skills
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>>173218068
>>173218126
>>173217967
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>>173218126
Total cost to be an effective costume collector: 10 billion dollars.
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IMC just updated SOMETHING after my last crash.

COULD THIS BE IT!?
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Kim is saving the game again!!!
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11267a9ec.1121.11213141.114191b1.11213141.1121314171.1121314151.2131415171.1121314171

now do me too
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You can't get badges anymore from missions and uphill?
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>>173218437
>in order to save the game over and over... you first have to kill it over and over
.t hakkyu kim - philosopher
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>>173218258
>>173218437
I-I'm not crashing while grinding for 15 minutes. Could this be it?
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So how do I gear now? I have a level 220 character that's using level 120 white gear.
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>>173218840
Hunting grounds
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>>173218682
>Sir, this event is kind of shortsighted. The only way to get some enemies within the apporpriate level range is to do uphill and pray a bunch show up.
>THEY CAN USE UPHILL TO DO THIS!? SHUT IT DOWN!! NOW
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>>173219105
Actually I don't drop badges anymore at all even from normal mobs.
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>>173219012
Where are they? What do I do in them? What am I looking for?
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DEAD GAME
E
A
D
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>>173219407
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=808&vp=3
Find the appropriate level you want.

Each type of monsters drop a specific item.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

Enjoy hunting.

Oh and higher levels aren't necessarily better depending on your class and build.
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Ok, so 90%? Ok.

This is even ignoring previous ranks and their costs in favor of Pyro.
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>>173219707
I'm a Musketeer!
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>>173218258
>>173218437
>>173218707
45 minutes still no crash!
I think that did it. IMC did it!

Either that or it's because I closed the NVIDIA GeoForce thingy.
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>>173219407
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147507

They're purely for killing a bunch of enemies, who have the same drops as their normal counterparts but also some hunting grounds exclusive gear, which are basically all of the following that were created on March 14th.

https://tos.neet.tv/items?group=Equipment&grade=3&order=cdated&f=1&page=5

You can also find giant versions of enemies which give extra silver and double what they drop. The gear is unusable until taken to the Appraiser in Fedimian, and has a randomized number of sockets and potential.
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>>173219728
Typo, Flame Ground and Hell Breath are switched. Still same total cost.
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>>173219728
>Ok, so 90%? Ok.
Okay, but why?

Why compare a rank2 weak(without agny) dmg starting-class with a high rank topDPS class?

>Agny OP
everyone knows that and everyone agrees

these pics are so pretty much pointless
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>>173219728
>wasting silver on r8 skills on doppel
Also where the fuck are Sage skills?
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>>173219728
CEL MADE THIS? REEEEEEE DELET
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>>173219938
t. Cel
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>>173219923
see >>173212189
and >>173211890

>>173219917
see >>173217442

just doing what was asked by people here

except costume collector archer costs
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>Had the audacity to jump
>Crash

FALSE ALARM, GUYS.
IMC DIDN'T FIX ANYTHING.
THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT THINGS WERE TOO CONVENIENT WITH THIS EVENT AND CHANGED THAT.
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Can they nerf Agny so I want to play this game again?
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>>173220114
Nobody will care if you come back or not. Fuck off.
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>>173220114
soon(tm)
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>>173219923
Sage does 0 damage, you only need Duplicate attribute and Portal extra slots if you want
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>>173220047
>skills are not worth considering because I arbitrary say so
The remove every skill from doppel but Cyclone.

>>173220230
Doppel c3 skills do 0 damage too.
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>>173220102
Are you using a Nvidia graphics card?
Try closing the Geoforce at the task bar. Like Quitting it.
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>>173220271
>The remove every skill from doppel but Cyclone.
t. someone who has never played a doppel
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>>173220216
>I deserve to be the strongest class in the game with almost 0 investment
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>>173220330
>implying
All your skills combined to less damage than 1 cyclone.
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So I'm convinced I should also make a Pyro2>Link2>Thauma2>Sage now. Do I need Prac weapons to farm 300+ maps for materials? Or will the Thauma buffs be enough with a Five Hammer?
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>>173220330
>>173220380
>>173220271
All this talk about cyclone and fireball but can any of you become panto the hedgehog?
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>>173220442
5Hammer is fine. Mobs have been nerf'd, so you dont rly need missile hole for farming them, maybe dont take sage (you dont need double balls to kill trash mobs)

Enchanter or Pyro3 or whatever is also ok
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>>173220442
Depends on the item you're farming.
With some mobs I'm struggling even with the purple pract mace.
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>>173220583
What about Wiz3>Pyro3>WL2, essentially same as old Elememe?
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>>173220643
not for farming (higher lvl) drops. WL sucks for anything not low. and you want thaum for 2xDrops

Pyro is crazy good with Links
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>>173220643
>quick cast is shit with Agny
>pyro is shit without links
>warlock is shit
>no sage for x2 balls
Terrible build for a pyro.
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>>173220583
You want Missile Hole if you aren't stacking mdef with Nuaeles too
You want atleast a Practonium weapon to farm certain mobs, even with that some mobs are still a pain in the ass
Not taking Sage isn't an option for pyro farmer imo
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>>173220442
You need atleast a practonium purple mace+blue gems, after the nerfs you don't need Chappariton cards though unless you farm some Kugheri species with their mdef buff
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>>173220989
Shit has been nerf'd a lot. should not rly need that. well maybe get some purple in some cases
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>>173221132
Have you tried farming Grummers or Zabbi recently anon?
They are still pretty fucking hard to deal with.
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>>173221132
Shit has been nerfed but you still need a Practonium weapon, Meme Hammer isn't just good enough
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>>173220989
fuck off you fucking fedishitter
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>>173221379
Ye ok, get a purple.
And windies with 3xBlues
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>>173221516
Windrunner aren't needed for mdef with Sage Missile Hole
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>>173221586
>farm a item with your main VS take a class
not like there are other great boots. and gotta go fast

gonna what sageC2 brings tho
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>>173221729
You are a Pyro and Pyro loves Sage just for Duplicate alone, if rank 9 Shadowmancer has his own fireball like spell at rank 8 you would want Sage
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>>173221729
Windrunners won't be enough to take 1s from strong magic mobs.
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>>173221729
Windrunner alone won't protect you at all
To compensante lack of Sage you need Windrunner+Nuaeles+purple practonium shield
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Can someone post that video I saw a few days ago of a Pyro in Solmiki doing 105k fireball damage?
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Are badges dropping for you guys outside uphill and missions?
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>>173221804
I do believe Rank 9 will arrive, later this year. However the game will be so dead by then you will be lucky if you have a few months to enjoy R9 and nothing else.

Shit I wouldn't be surprised if R9 never comes and IMC closes the servers before that if what is happening keeps up.
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>>173222449
doesn't seem like it, what the hell happened?
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Attribute bug still is there. If you buy an attribute and skill reset, the attribute stays. Why did this general lie to me a few days ago that it was fixed?
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>>173222968
I just killed a red mob plant pack at Pystis and no badges. They probably accidentally the whole database for it.
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our gook overlords have a new pet
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>>173222449
No, no badges drop for me at all anywhere.
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So Deeds of Valor doesn't even scale with STR anymore? Why?
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=920
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>>173223438
>before and after
Basically they want to nerf how people are taking 1's of damage. Good change, but I wonder how much this will hurt 2h weapon users. A lot I'd imagine.
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>>173223438
>CRITICAL RATE REMOVED FROM BASIC STATS
What the literal fuck
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>>173223612
Because it's useless since the actual crit chance depends on the target.
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>>173223438
>With this, we can expect to reduce the performance gap between high- and low-level skills, letting high-rank characters make better use of skills learned in lower ranks.
Basically Agny innate for everyone. Even Pyro's. At least in theory.

>like Blessing or Aspersion, will also change to a +% calculation.
Neat. My SPR pardoner is going to be fine.

>We’re also eliminating the bonus factor obtained from allocating points in the same stat to avoid promoting excessively disproportionate stat investment.
DID THAT STUPID MONK MAKE THIS PATCH!?!!

Someone post the "absolute retard" image. Because when this hits, her stat allocation will actually be a new norm.
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>>173223723
>depends on the target
Please, crit resist was never too relevant and there are ways to drop it to 0 anyway.
>>
SUICIDE WATCH
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>>173223612
Then how the fuck do we crit with this change? What? Are items going to be the only source of crit? Like Sissel giving 3% crit chance? We WoW now?
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>>173223438
GAME SAVED?

Seriously, a ton of good changes in here. It'll be interesting to see how this changes the meta.
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>>173223867
Full green gems.
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These changes almost make it seem like IMC played the game.
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>>173223851
GOOD!
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>>173223851
That's extremely surprising, I assumed they'd make it easier but not nerf it because of it being unfair or whatever.
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>we want to prepare an event where you can reset your stats, skills and class ranks at an event NPC.
Are you fucking kidding me? What if someone misses this event? GG? Why not introduce a fucking STANDARD RESET SYSTEM ALREADY YOU GREEDY FUCKING KOREAN SHIT HEADS! I DON'T WANNA PAY MONEY FOR YOUR FUCK UPS YOU CUNTS!

HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO MAKE A SKILL / STAT / CLASS RESET PART OF THE STANDARD GAME AND NOT A FUCKING CASH SHOP PREMIUM YOU FUCKING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AN EVENT!? HOW FUCKING GENEROUS!!!
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