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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General: Dumb

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New 3DS game is called "Deep Strange Journey" further info and the teaser:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/dsj/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXOfSFb2EU [Embed]

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o [Embed]

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png (embed)

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/kHK2a6dR

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

Previous thread: >>172937780
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We are unclean. Let the Yamato reactor take us.
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hoy there
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>>172964094
Also reminder Moe Shivvu best demonfu if you disagree you are a homosexual or a lawfag.
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It's not bad.
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Gas the hoy posters
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REND
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>>172964375
Nekomata > Moh Shitvu
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Why is the Devil Survivor series so punishing for simple choices? a little bit of spoilers in this small rant

In this first game, Kaido or something won't protect Mari (His fucking childhood friend) unless you tell him he should protect her in day 2, and if you don't do that you will be unable to save Keisuke on day 5, which just seems retarded that you need to tell the guy to protect someone he knew ever since he was a kid, and how he won't do it unless you say it.

In the second game, you are supposed to get everyone to Fate 4 to get the True ending but even small choices before the demon invasion begins can affect the Fate points some characters gain (The way you introduce yourself to Io increases the Fate value if you pick the correct option(s) )

Call my a crybaby, but I think it's just boring to have to REALLY focus on every single dialouge choice even when it's not law/chaos related (see : introduction with Io and how it can affect the fucking ending if you somehow are a few points short off of Fate 4 with her) I get that in other SMT games choices matter, but the choices are kinda obvious most of the time, Law / Chaos and sometimes Neutral, making every little thing matter just makes people more inclined to start using guides which in my opinion kills the game.

Rant over, hang me for being a whiny faggot I don't care, had to get it off my chest.
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>>172964778
Looks like shit
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Welcome to the General of SMT Games, where shitposters gather...
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>>172965195
SLAUGHTER
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>>172964778
Ignoring Jimenez and Protagonist losing his jawline and cheekbones, Gore's updated design is absolutely unforgivable.
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>>172966146
Gore... Gore had a smooth life
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>>172965286
I know that feel brother.

>>172965226
No.
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>>172965286
because you play multiple times
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Besides Arthur and Gore, who are canonically some of the most bro-tier characters in mainline series?
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>>172967030
dagda, atsuro
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>>172966573
>playing a tactical turn based RPG more than twice

I don't see the appeal.
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>>172967336
I think /feg/ might have a word with you.
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>>172965226
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>>172967030
Big Booty Ghost Navarre
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Can someone post all of the "revamped" designs IV and IV - Apocalypse gave us? I just remember the archangels being really stupid.
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>>172968443
>muh motorbike gang
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>>172968674
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SMT x Dark Souls?
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>>172965286
Human lives are often lost due to unforeseen circumstances. Choices you make may have consequences you as a mortal being cannot comprehend. The problem is you want to play as a God and can't live with consequences.

I've played through like 15 or so megaten by just following my heart and discovering where it leads me.
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>>172969445
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>>172969832
SMT x Star Wars?
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>>172966146
What are you even talking about, this nigger looks exactly the same.
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>>172970302
Are you blind?
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>>172964778
>literally SJW cast
Dropped.
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>>172970425
He's right though, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Gore, he looks the same, literally. Jimenez on the other hand...
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>>172970586
>he looks the same
>except he doesn't
Are you blind?
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>>172969703
A good megaten game lets you have an equal chance of getting any of its endings, not having one locked behind a wall of correct choices that only a lucky person or a guide-reader gets.

For example, I played Nocturne and on my first playthrough I got the secret boss fight because I did not feel like accepting any of the other Reasons, that's good design honestly since I had an equal chance of getting any other ending.

But with DS it's impossible to get the true ending or save certain NPC's unless you're extremely lucky or use guides on your 1st playthrough.
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>>172970691
Are you? There are no differences, you can't deny that.

>still no arguments about what so different about him so far
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How hard was the Gore boss first time round for you?
>>172964094
>prev thread links to an image of Alex
Ah I've found my waifu.
>>172964375
>not pixie
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>>172970791
Are you blind?
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>>172970691
>>172970425
he's slightly different, but hell if anyone could tell from DS resolution
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>>172970727
Felt like adding to my post.

The problem is that the choices required are just too specific, you need a chain of correct choices to reach the desired goal, and each of these choices is so obscure you can almost never get them right.

One game bases that shit off of your choice when you greet someone and the other bases it off whether you betray or don't betray , you know?
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>>172970425
I want to lick Waxed Gore's head.
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>>172970791
>his eyes are smaller
>detail on his lips are gone and their made much larger
>looks like a generic anime black man now
>"he's the same/there's no differences"
t. Doi

>>172970970
>slightly different
I think you have some sort of ocular disability.
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>>172970425
>le ruined designs
Gore looks the same. Go back to /v/ or something.
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>>172970425
>No eyeliner on all chars
>No black upper lip
>Less detailed shading

It's doll-like people vs anime shit. The outfits are vastly superior on the left but let's not pretend that the right is perfect. The shading is obviously more detailed but they still have his trademark doll people look. It works great when he's drawing demons or uncanny people like Demifiend but it looks odd on normal people, especially Jimenez.
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>>172971091
>>172970970
>>172970791
>>172970586
>>172970302
(You)
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>>172971040
>looks like a generic anime black man now

You're joking, right? And what was so unique about his original artwork? He looked more tense and now he doesn't, that's all. You can argue about the artstyle being inferior but when you guys say dumb shit like he looks generic now as if he didn't before, it makes it obvious you're just nitpicking.
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>>172971040
>details on his lips are gone
>his eyes are smaller
>he could tell from DS resolution
Fuck outta here stupid shitposter.
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>>172971091
>>172971313
>Gore looks the same.
Doi's Gore looks like a wax sculpture going into uncanny valley compared to Kaneko's Gore. His skin is completely smoothed, he has next to almost facial details that make him stand out from the others and even looks like his face was flattened and steam-pressed.

>>172971374
Where's the detail, stupei?
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>>172971374
All you have to look at is the official artwork from Atlus themselves you mongoloid.
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>>172964375
I hate this bitch so much
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>>172971425
Why did you reply to me though? I didn't say Gore looked the same at all. I said the comment about him not looking unique anymore was pure BS because he never did to begin with. He had the token big balled black guy design japs love to use for anime black guys.
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>>172971425
>Where's the detai
That was mine question, provide us with high-resolution Kaneko's Gore picture to proove your shitposting about ''''details'''' on his lips right. Otherwise you're talking out of your ass and should neck yourself before your genetic code outbreaks from your crotch (which probably won't happen anyway)
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>>172971374
Why isn't this filenamed anime blackman?
>>172971374
The anon your responding to didn't even say anything about DS resolutions. Why are you strawmanning so badly? And that looks awful.
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>>172967030
Dagda and Navarre in final

Walter in 4

Lucifer and daisoujou in nocturne

That's all I can think of
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>>172971374
He looks just as bad as Kaneko 80s angels desu. Fucking garbage.
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>>172971425
>Doi's Gore looks like a wax sculpture going into uncanny valley compared to Kaneko's Gore.

And Kaneko's Jimenez doesn't? I'm just saying that you guys are pointing out every single mistake Doi made like Kaneko's is perfection. Yes, Doi has less detail in his art because he's going for a more 2D art style, arguing against that would be dumb.. but to pretend Kaneko doesn't go full doll-face when Jim has it the worst is just cherry picking. All this focus on Gore's downgrade when Jim went from weird glass eyes to normal is just extreme bias.
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>>172971374
Looks fucking terrible like something A-1 would shit out with their designs.
>>172971737
Can you explain why he looks like a rubberman in Doi's artwork?
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>>172970791
Too smooth. Face looks as if all the features have been shrunk down. All those facial details like the cheekbones or his ridges.
His expression is too neutral and too soft imo, gore had a more intense face but I dunno if that's just his lines from Kaneko or his eyes looking more larger.
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>>172971906
Can you explain why Jimenez's face looks weird as hell and uncanny.
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>>172971886
>>172972067
Jimenez and Protagonist look the least problematic of Kaneko's artwork, especially compared to his pre-Nocturne stuff.
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>>172967030
>inb4 who is kazuya
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>>172967030
Nocturne
>Dante / Raidou
IV
>Walter
IV:A
>Dagda
>Gaston
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>>172971374
Why is Doi allowed to make shit like this?
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>>172971374
Nigger is a nigger, I honestly can't see that much of difference. I bet anon whos trying to argue over loss of details is probably nigger too. All niggers should be hanged, ho!
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>>172972207
>stole a demon
>ditched me
>attempts to fight me when I leaned somewhat law
What a prick. Law bro broke me out of prison, sacrificed his life to save me and only got brainwashed
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>>172972108
Doesn't change the fact that it's heavy biased. Unlike the other shitposters I can admit that Gore received a massive downgrade, but the people who are complaining are acting like Doi's change made everyone look bad, when Jimenez's face now looks normal.

I wouldn't even care if it wasn't for the fact that people still shat on Doi during his IV and IVA artwork. I mean, I agree the random guest artists were garbage but what did Doi do in those games that were so bad? He even made Merkebah look good in IVA. At this point it's obvious that we have a case of SMT genwonners who will shit on everything regardless of quality because it isn't by the original artist. They won't even give credit when it's due.
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>>172972319
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>>172972482
People here never shatted over Soejima though. /smtg/ is a bunch of cucksona fuccbois.
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>>172972482
I said time and time again that while Doi's art work is more slanted toward the generic anime style, and generally simpler and softer then Kaneko's I had no ultimate issue with his version of the protagonist even though I prefer Kaneko's over his. And Zelenin actually improving under Doi.
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>>172972652
>And Zelenin actually improving under Doi.
kys right fucking now, Zelenina was ruined the most
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>>172972634
You haven't seen it then. They shat on every artist that wasn't Kaneko. They pointed out the artist's flaws for each game, like P3's being it's neck but defending how badly Kaneko handle's his feet. It's nothing but bias. They'll go as far as attacking a character's designed fashion sense but defend what's her face's entire denim outfit that didn't even look stylish for it's time.
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>>172972781
Can't tell if this is retarded fanboy or shitposting so I'll bite. Zelenin is the least changed. The only real differences for her case is the eyeliner removal, no black upper lip and the shading difference on her hair and face. She's he closest to her original out of all the other chars here.
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>>172972482
Handsome Jimenez or Junpei Jimenez
>inb4 what's the difference
that's the joke
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>>172971374
>Nigger apparently is Ubergestalt
Sounds like terminal cuckshit. Why everybody loves this progressive trash?
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>>172972207
>>172972360
SMT I has the best Law hero and Chaos hero. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

That said, which is the best Neutral representative, /smtg/?
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>>172972360
sure, look at his tone, typical lawfag

>>172973219
Gore is probably the most memorable.
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>>172973219
Y-ko.
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>>172973198
>implying BLACKED isn't the secret to enlightenment
Poor foolish anon.
>>172973219
>not Lucifer and Zayin
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>>172973219
I love Izabo.
She just wanted to be kuru bifauxnen.
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>>172970425
>A group meant to look ethically diverse with
certain racial features emphasised like MC's facial bone structure and Jimenez's hair
>Now they're all just cookie cutter anime characters with different color skin
This is disgusting.
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>>172973976
>A group meant to look ethically diverse with certain racial features emphasised like MC's facial bone structure and Jimenez's hair

Sure, fucko, thats why Space Marine was japanese and american at the same time, alright...
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>>172974108
>he doesn't know how to do both
>>172973514
More like worst
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>>172974108
>Americans can't be Japanese
>Japanese can't be American
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>>172973870
post more cute
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>>172973718
t. nigger
Why are you here, shouldn't you commit crimes and debate about piramids right now?
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>>172974498
Because world of STR white boi.
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To the artist fellow from the last thread, that style is really interesting, keep the art flowing.
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>>172973870
>liking a fujoshit who probably wanted Jonathan and Walter to bang throughout the game
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>>172974671
Agreed. Also, do the cast of SJ. I wanna see how your style makes them look
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>>172974484
Kuru, not kuuto!
>>172974721
>projecting with your inner faggot this much
Suck a dick or something.
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>>172974820
Hey now, Flynn and Jonathan would clearly be the better gay pairing.

She is literally a fujoshit though.
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>>172975037
>She is literally a fujoshit though.
Sorry anon, but Final is not a canon.
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>SMT
>worst girl's a monkey
>Gundam
>worst girl's a monkey
Coincidence?
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>>172975113
Not him but Final is very canon. It's an alternate universe to IV but they both happen. The DLC proves this fact.
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>>172974820
>>172973870
I would probably have intense anal sex with her until one of our pelvises snapped in half

Fucking hell short haired nerdy cute indecisive women are so hot
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>>172975262
>The DLC
>proves anything
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>>172975194
Which Gundam exactly? Would watch.
Also farted in your face.
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>>172975383
You're either shitposting or incredibly stupid if you can't understand what the rest of the playerbase got from it. How about you go run through the wiki and save you some time arguing with me?
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>>172975738
Let him be, anon. He just hates the idea of his pure qt neutral waifu wanting to see guys fuck one another.

ie. pretty much all straight women who read manga
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What a dumb fucking bitch, I swear.
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>>172975505
Iron Blooded Orphans, most recent one.
Only appears in S2.
>>172964094
I want a Demonica helmet man.
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>>172976083
I don't see what's wrong with seeing that.

Not like SMT hasn't made a Sentai reference before.
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>>172976314
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>>172976395
That's the point. This faggot was so passionate about his schizophrenic references he completely missed the fact that the same coloring was present in 'mature' SJ. This shiter and his entire flatulent editorial is triggering me beyond the words.
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>>172976767
Reeeeeeee stop!!!!!

Smt is becoming casulized by filthy cretins like you!
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>>172974817
Seconding this.

>>172975194
Juliette was best girl though, although IBO is unironically one of the worst if not worst Gundam shows to appear in the franchise in the last 20 years.
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>>172976083
it's pretty much pokemon at this point...
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>>172976767
I can't even tell if you're being serious or not.
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>>172977436
>He farmed in the DLC to post his shitty character in this thread

L M A O
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>>172976083
>>172976767
It gets worse man. Just wait until he starts accusing SMTIV and Atlus itself of being nationalist just because there are some nationalistic characters in the game. And of course, he completely ignores the fact that SMT1 had nationalist characters as well. Just because a work of fiction contains certain themes, that doesn't mean it's promoting it. I still can't believe he misunderstood the game that badly.
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>>172965286
Keisuke getting murdered is a better scene anyway.
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>>172977949
True, the BBQ style execution was pretty good.
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>>172977773
SMT1 nationalist - chaos, evil, boss
SMT4 nationalist - neutral, big good, ally
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>>172976083
>But when you consider the furigana along with the tokusatsu guest designers, the explicitly sentai-like "transformations" of Reds-takers or Jonathan or Walter, the Samurai team's scarf colors resembling those of a sentai squad, the simplified thematic content, the Goddess of Tokyo acting as little more than a damsel in distress cliché, etc., it becomes apparent that SMTIV's target demographic was pre-teen or early-teen boys.

What did he mean by this?
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>>172978019
>SMT4A nationalist: chaos, big evil, sidequest boss
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>>172976871
>>172976083
Pocket Monsters Green version
Pokémon Yellow version
Pokémon White version
Pokémon Blue version
Pokémon Red version
Why can't Atlus come up with anything original?
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>>172977742
Or I'm on my third playthrough because I enjoyed playing the game and used ALL of the stat boosting items on my MC alone. You literally get around 600 MAG by leveling up if you poor it all into one stat. Most of the STR is from my sword and the other equipment. It's why I posted them in the screen.
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>>172976853
>did nothing but get tossed around and claim a dead cripple's kill
>best girl
Best girl died to Mobsters, anon.
>>172977773
Man Mishim-I mean Gotou did nothing wrong.
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>>172978047
>the Goddess of Tokyo acting as little more than a damsel in distress cliché
oh im laffin
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>>172978019
Except not really. There is no neutral force in the game that is xenophobic. Masakado has always been an important Neutral god and has never acted xenophobic.
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MAGAkado
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>>172978291
That only applies to Persona, friendo.
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>Eirikr opinions still relevant
Kaneko is the left wing saving grace in a company of evil nationalists truly the shin megami tensei!
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>>172978047
>literally every character color-coded
>literally everyone from DDS doing sentai-like transformations

eikijrkrjkg was a mistake.
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>>172978725
So... this is... the power... of SMT oldfags...
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tfw no red pills to transform into a giant female demon
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>>172976595
I'm going to Riot Gun inside her vagina
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Hey, just got to the Tokyo Preliminaries and am level 22 rn. Initially couldn't get into the game, but playing Persona 4 made it easier for me to adjust and I'm having a blast now. I was just wondering where I could grind easily for the tournament.
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I've been told that IV:A isn't canon, and that it's a 'what if' scenario at best.
Is this true? If it's not canon, I'd rather skip it for now. But if it is, I'll play it soon in case SMT:HD is V.
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>>172980238
Everything is canon.
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>>172980238
it don't mattah either way because V won't be related to IV
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>>172978725
>the state of his latest post
>getting mad at a game company for being a business
>NO KANEKO REEEEEEEEE

I really hope Kaneko makes a return for something like DeSu3 just to see his reaction.
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>>172980753
What did he said about Final? Was it a perfect shitstorm?
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>>172980753
Uh, that guy in your picture is correct.
I think you're a faggot.
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>>172981113
t. eirikrjs
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>>172981093
he went bond and whined the whole way
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>>172980753
I never imagined zoe as anime trash
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>>172981305
Is he wrong or are you just digging at him for whining?
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE vs Persona 5 by Arc System Works
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>>172980753
What about something unrelated to Atlus?
You gotta love the difference between portraits seen, the redraws, non redrawn main character and minor characters
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>>172981781
How can I accuse him wrong if he provided no worthy arguments about 'indusputable cheap-lookiness' of portraits that weren't even present in original game in the first place? What can his point about content being not promising be if he knows absolutely nothing about the content of DEEP whatsoever?

So yeah, it looks like typical whining to me and that's why this shithead is a laughingstock.
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>>172982258
Watch your mouth because he's the most prolific and well read Megaten scholar in the West.
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>>172982712
Now you're trying too hard.
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>>172978335
Lafter a shit. Your just mad because the whore whose tits size the animators couldn't even decide upon wasn't popular enough with IBO's tiny fujoshit demographic to be paired with an even worse Gutts-clone who did tantamount to nothing 90% of the series in either season.
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>>172982805
Sadly enough, he is one of the people who command the megaten scene in the west aside from him and his Kaneko worshipping crew there's Gideon and /r/megaten.
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>>172977436
>Not even +9 in all your attacking spells
How lazy can you be. Just fucking put the attacks on super low level demons and level them up in one battle.
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So serious theory-crafting and speculation here but what do you guys think the new areas/dungeons in DSJ will be? Another dimension/world in the Schwarzwelt? Maybe one linked to Alex's civilization or whatever? Do you think we'll get Jack Squad's dimension and base further enhanced given how barebones it was in the original game?
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>>172983158
>command megaten scene
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>>172978335
>took Mika's head
>and dismembered a Gundam
Pretty satisfactory ending for such an abysmal and awful series tbqh, senpai. I'm glad IBO is over with, reminds me of a certain Megaten game that bashes the player over and over the head again with "MUH EVIL ADULTS" theme.
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Wow a sj remake?
>horrible redesigns
Oh ok well as long as its the same game itll be fine!
>shoehorned mary sue
Ouch, lost my hypothetical sale
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>>172983340
I don't get the reference senpai use another meme plz
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>>172982258
No portrait is better than shit portraits to be honest.
Also, that Flynn shit was pure cancer
>Dramatic watercolor close up showing how fucked up he looks
>His portrait after that is some retarded green face that looks like it was made in MSPaint in 3 minutes
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>>172982882
Least Lafter's piloting screentime wasn't just getting manhandled with no improvement.
Iok did more than Julietta towards the overall plot. And that was ruin everything until he got pointlessly killed just to satisfy the fans.
>>172983579
>took a guy who was already running on fumes' head before
She just mercy killed and took profit from it.
Besides, Rustal was the true hero anyway.
>>172983295
They can easily shoehorn a couple more sectors during the second half, just push Jack's HQ to a new sector that is before Grus and continue normal path then.
They could just put more NG+ areas like Grus.
Her route/ending could have a new sector after H for a new boss, or force a detour.
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>>172983641
>know nothing about the character
>call it a mary sue
everytime
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>>172984114
>Lok did more than Julietta
Nah he didn't, /m/aggot. Most of the time he had to be repeatedly bailed out and saved by Juliette and his men who kept sacrificing themselves to keep him alive. Lok was literally a subversion of Patrick from 00, all he did was fuck things up, fail at being competent and got killed.
>She just mercy killed and took profit from it.
And the problem here is? She also won the Gaelio-bowl.
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>>172984114
Lafter and Azee surviving THIS near the end of season 1 shit was the moment I truly knew the series was unsalvageable garbage.
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What the fuck do I have to fuse to get Huang Di and Lanling Wang?
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>>172983905
Not him but he's laughing at how idiotic the statement that was. He's just some random guy on tumblr, nothing more. Does if he have followers? Big whoop, guys like Egoraptor have tons of followers that agreed with his BS Zelda arguments but that didn't change the fact that he was upset over biased things and the majority of the player base outside of his fans believed otherwise.
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SMT x Gundam when?
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>>172983158
>tumblr guy
>known only to 4chan and reddit as the sperg SMT fan people make fun of, whether they be Kaneko fans or not.
>A literal who by everyone outside of the two websites
>Thinks this nobody commands anything.
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>>172983158
/r/megaten is a total joke, it's basically /r/personacirclejerk and nobody there gives a shit about mainline.
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>>172984773
>not Brewers when Akihiro's brother appeared
>or Dort in general
Least it's over.
>>172984423
>got MA awoken and triggered Muh Bael
>gets Turbines disbanded by being a fuck up which leads to Tekkadan joining the Rebellion
A man's fuck ups were more active than Julietta for most of the series. Gee getting strong by being a human worked didn't it. Had to wait until all your men got razed by a demon and the dude passed out to actually contribute.
Least Galieo got happy after revengance. Sweet really.
>>172984980

>Kaneko designed Mecha before including SRW and ZoE
Sign me up. Should've hired him to make Gundam Ose.
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>>172976083
Did he notice the SJ uniforms are colored, too? Gore yellow, Jimenez red, Zelenin blue
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>>172985668
This. Have you ever been to their Discord server? The owner of /r/megaten is a total tool. He actually tries to act like YHVH and bans people who disagrees with him. He sperged out over people talking bad about the Switch and had a falling out with most of his regulars and staff.
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>>172985793
oh fuck no I haven't, once they started spamming that shit and downvoting everytime I told the personafags that they had their own sub I took it as a sign to get the hell out. it's about as bad as /r/earthbound in there but with more mutual masturbation via groupchat
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>>172984950
I'm not saying his opinions are worth shit m8 but he's the only megaten fag buying shit making his tumblr friends translate it and putting out there like the Final artbook commentary even if he despised the game.
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>>172985793
>Discord
>ever
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>>172985779
What's wrong with the color schemes with the Investigation Team's Demonica suits? Aside from the protagonist's own one, don't the colors implicate a crewman's position? IIRC yellow was for support crew and bridge members, blue were technicians and scientists, and red were combat/strike team and security members.

>>172985692
Well yeah the whole space debris arc and dorts were also gigantic piles of shit that went nowhere with the overall story.

But listing Lok's incompetence being an accidental factor in awakening the mobile armor is hardly on him alone considering he was just firing around it like a moron when it was already being dug up and extracted. Doesn't change the fact 99% of the time in season 2 the reason he doesn't die is because Juliette is literally there to save his ass or to come save the day after his men keep being used as meatshields until then to keep him alive.
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>>172985990
He isn't the only one though. He's just easily known and found because he has his name established as the guy who does. People have been sharing these stuff years before the reddit even got made. Are we gonna forget all the groups that went through the efforts of translating SMT games that aren't in english, writing summaries of their story, bought the special editions just to show us what's inside, etc. just because one fag got popular because he was easy to find? The original Soul hackers group went at trying to translate it for years, what did he do? Share a few scans that we already have?
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>>172985990
>but he's the only megaten fag buying shit making his tumblr friends translate it and putting out there like the Final artbook commentary even if he despised the game
But that's illegal. Literally anybody can do that.
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>>172986148
He's bitching about IV cast's color coding when it's been done multiple times already
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>>172985990
>making his tumblr friends translate it and putting out there like the Final artbook commentary even if he despised the game.

Pretty sure nobody made his friends do anything. They're fans of the series so they would have most likely done it anyway, all he did was post it and claim most of the credit as the 'boss' of all this stuff. We've gotten scans and translations from other games too. This is hardly anything new and special. You're making it sound like he or 'they' are the only people digging through some heavy muck to do this work. SMT isn't a small community.
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>>172986148
Wait fug, I'm a little retarded and didn't actually read your entire post before replying. It's 2:00 here, sorry. I never heard of that, since MC's color was white, I always assumed it was related to alignment.
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>>172986148
It also corresponded with alignment, at least for the main characters. I think it's pretty cool. The tumblr guy loves Strange Journey but hates IV, and one of the reasons he hates IV is because he thinks the colored scarfs are something out of a children's show. That's stupid of course, but Strange Journey also had color coding. So that makes it stupid and hypocritical.
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>>172985990
>but he's the only megaten fag buying shit-

Either a newfag, fan of his, or your searching only went as far as his tumblr and reddit channel. SMT shit is everywhere.
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>>172986148
>Lok
Come on man, we had 26 episodes to drill that accursed name into our skull.
It would've been better if he died earlier or not at all. Dragging it out was a waste of screentime and unsatisfying overall.
>>172986582
His white one was unique for some reason, odd how the other colours are justified by staffing (research, operations, strike).
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>got Anarchy route in IVA
>ending happens, etc
Hallelujah: 'no matter how many people die, I will make more people for you'
w-what did he mean by this?

Is it worth 7-8 hours and having to go through the final dungeon again to play the Bonds ending? I heard it was kind of lousy, but the IV cast seems appealing to me.
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>>172987437
Nah, I don't think it's worth it. Just watch a video of the Bonds route.
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>>172987437
Anarchy route doesn't solve anything. In reality all it did was replace one YHVH with a new YHVH (Nanashi) who will create his own new humanity and end up with the whole war cycle all over again. Steven reassures this when he says there will be more Messiahs he will have to guide to Nanashi's universe to defeat him, like he originally did for Nanashi to fight YHVH.

There is no end to the cycle in any of the routes, only momentary peace or a shift of who does what.
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>>172988019
?
I understood the ending no problem, not sure why you're explaining it to me.
>>172987750
Alright then. I'll use that extra time to put into a new SMT game (as I'm just an IV/A babby)
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>>172977773
SMT1's nationalist was literally a caricature of an actual, real life Japanese nationalist. They're clearly not championing nationalism in SMT1. There isn't a clear 'caricature' like that in SMTIV, you literally get quests to expel 'foreign demons' from Ikebukuro, a part of Tokyo with a well-known China town. It's not an alignment choice, you straight up kick Chinese demons out as part of the main quest.

>>172985779
Aren't all the main SJ characters from different parts of the expedition? Jiminez is strike force, Zelenin is research, Gore's the commander. I'd assume they'd be colour-coded because it makes sense in the context of a military operation with lots of different personnel. There's a difference between 'colour coding' and power ranger scarves.
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>>172988507
You asked what Halle meant by it, so I answered with a more broad explanation.
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>>172988515
>he still trying
How do you explain color coding in DDS then fuccboi?
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>>172988662
I was making a joke. Like 'knocking up tons of women' kind of thing, silly.
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>>172988515
>I'd assume they'd be colour-coded because it makes sense in the context of a military operation with lots of different personnel.

Protagonist and Jimenez are in the same Strike team.
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>>172988515
it's refrance
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>>172988515
Gore had Operations-yellow. That's general ship tasks if we consider the med crew and Dent from engineering had those colors. Since he's the commander of the ship, it makes sense.
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>>172989021
Protagonist's shoulder is still white.
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>>172988969
>>172989189
SJ protagonist and Demoneeho both have white sleeves. You play as one and the other is cosplaying as you. They're the only characters with white sleeves. I'd say they're an intentional exception to the rule.
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so when CDF Flynn, Walter and Johnny appear in SMTIV: Before Crisis with the same colors on their armbands, everything will be fine.
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>>172988515
Do you really believe SMT4 is nationalist? The people that bring up the idea of "foreign demons" aren't exactly good people. The theme of nationalism in SMT4 is clearly playing off of what has been established in SMT1. The forces of Law are acting as a Western imperialist power, trying to destroy Tokyo both physically and culturally. Meanwhile, the forces of Chaos have a nationalist bent. Demons are the reflections of human desire, and culture can also be seen as a manifestation of those same desires. The Neutral route shows that a synthesis between cultures is necessary, instead of one overtaking the other. They pretty much throw this shit in your face, I don't know how you missed it.
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>>172988515
All brutes from Strike team are chaotic, all scientists are lawfags, all command crew are neutrals who glues the two together. Its more about alignment than anything.
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>>172970442
>Diverse cast of well rounded and respectable peop- AY HIJO DE PUTA
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>>172989517
The CDF version of Flynn had red sleeves. I don't think that scarf color corresponds to sleeve color.
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>>172990986
Dunno, but Atlus did include the Izanami sidequest/make Japan great again minister to Apocalypse to really hammer the whole nationalism is bad message.
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>>172989517
>SMTIV: Before Crisis
Before Crisis?
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Is every american autistic enough to look at SMT and everything japanese in general through the prism of 'le japanese post-war xenophobia' ideology? It's just a game about horrors of radical thinking, why the fuck you can't just let go of the idea of every japanese man on Earth besides Hideaki Anno and Miyazaki being a buttblasted americuckhater?
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>>172992243
Yes
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

I'm late! I'm late!
For a very special date!
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>>172993008
Where've you been?
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>>172993008
forgot my fucking image
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>>172984019
I believe you can justify it with japanese nationalism or something.
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JUST
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>>172994196
Sacrifices for good gameplay anon.
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Should I play Soul Hackers or Kyuuyaku MT1+2
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>>172993008
no mt2 no vote
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>>172992243
Well one of the recurring themes in the series is Americans nuking Japan
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>>172989315
You could also rationalize that since the SJ protagonist is also a liaison between the Strike Team and Gore, the mission commander, that's why he's white instead of red.
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>>172995267
Soul Hackers, it's shorter
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>>172995267
Why not both?
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>>172995630
Or as I brought up last time we discussed this, maybe at some point in the development the MC wasn't necessarily a part of the strike team but was changed later on so they didn't have to write additional events/dialog.
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>>172995637
MT I and II are probably about the same length as SH tbqhfamicom.
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>>172995860
Both are equally good as far as theories go.
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>>172995597
>recurring
It was used once.
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>>172996036
>end of SJ
>before the beginning of 4
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Have they mentioned how many new demons are going to be added? Original game had over 300 right? How many did DeSu 1/Overclocked, DeSu 2/Record Breaker, and IV/IV - Apocalypse have?
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hee ho
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>>172993106
>Posting Persona in /smtg/
???
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>>172996178
>end of SJ
As I remember that was about multiple countries and they bombed schwarz, not Tokyo?
>IV
It was about angels, not americans.
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>>172996381
Persona is just as much part of this general as Devil Summoner, DDS or Devil Survivor.
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>>172996178
Schwarzwelt was still mainly affecting Antarctica, it hadn't even touched Africa much less Asia, Japan, Europe, or the Americas yet. They do admit they tried nuclear weapons before resorting to sending in various drones and unmanned probes before finally sending in the Investigation Team to stop it.

No where Japan was nuked in this.
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>>172996650
Good point. Keep those out of /smtg/ too, maybe post them in Persona general.
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>>172996650
Get out.
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>>172990986
People believe that SMT4 is nationalist because of the surface elements. The important Japanese Gods and Demons are portrayed as unambiguously good for trying to protect Tokyo while foreign demons like Lucifer, Xi Wangmu, Lilith, and Merkabah are treated as bad for destroying the city. Mastema is the exception because he was busy holding down the for the fort until humans grew strong enough to take back the city.

The forces of Law aren't an imperial power trying to destroy Tokyo, they have their own agenda and trying to kick start the Millenium Kingdom. Even Final shows the West getting wiped out because God deemed it filth. Archangels may be petty tyrants, but even they wouldn't allow the EU or even US to survive.
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Has this been updated yet?
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We can't let Thor have the nuclear codes
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>>172996986
No and it shouldn't. Who gives a fuck about timelines in this franchise.
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>>172996726
>>172996735
Nah, you guys fuck off, this general is for megaten franchise in general, spinoffs included.
If it hurts your feefees that someone posts a picture from a game you don't like then I suggest you seek professional help.
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>>172997007
Rude.

>>172997118
But its a SMT general not a Megaten general! That means no Persona fuddies allowed fanclub buddy.
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>>172997118
>this general is for megaten franchise in general
There is a /pg/ for a reason you know....
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Is Space Marine going to be american again?
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>>172970727
>Nocturne
>good design choices when it comes to endings

If you don't blindly follow a single reason from the start and ignore all others, you get locked to the shitty Demon Ending. To get neutral you must reject all reasons without ever agreeing with any of the points of other Reasons or else you'll get the ending of above.

Only TDE was able to escape this fate.
Your post is like saying that DeSu has good design when it comes to choices only because you can always choose the Yuzu route.
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>>172997195
To keep all the trash out
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>>172997118
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>>172997195
Yes, it's for people who don't want to play the other games in the franchise.
I want to play and discuss every game in the franchise, that's why I'm here instead of there.
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>>172997195
Odd, this is the first time I've seen anyone complain about Persona in this gen in months. Over a picture, no less. Persona and other spin-offs are brought up on a regular basis and discussed normally here. If anything, I look to smtg for a more structured look at the Persona games than what I'd find over at pg who only seems to be concerned with waifus and whatnot.
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>>172997084
Shut the fuck up retard. SMT has the deepest lore.
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>>172997361
Fujos will fujo. I don't see the issue here.
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>>172996965
>Lilith
>treated as bad
She's literally the head of Gaea Ring. Head of so-called 'japanese nationalists' as previous anon said.

Which is totally nonsensical in both of yours speculations.

Cut the crap already, mainline is much more meta than pitiful xenophobic social commentary.
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>>172997218
>they get deep silver to localise again for EU
>Protag is part of the EU terroist cell as to keep with the differences
>>172997361
Here's a SMTfag, >>172980753
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>>172997218
Yes. Why wouldn't the most handsomest protag stay Freedomese?
>>172997851
>Europe
>ever being second fiddle to NA/SA in Fatlus eyes
Oh anon.
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>>172997851
He's not an SMTfag though, he's just dumb cunt.
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>>172997674
Say what you want about Kaneko's style. I fucking love the way he draws women.
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>>172998838
>draw a boy in a drag
>call it a boy
Kaneko was a closet homo, so are you.
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>>172999104
This is some weak bait desu.
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>>172999104
>draw a boy in a drag
>call it a boy
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>>172999415
Yeah, you just posted an actual boy right now.
>>172997895
A man can dream
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>Personacucks are trying to taint /smtg/
Disgusting
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Persona>SMT, just admit it already
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>>172964778
My problwm is the chekbones makes Space Marine look like he's in hi thirties, while here the lack of cheekbones makes him look younger.
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>>173000168
How can Persona be > SMT if Persona wouldn't have ever existed if not for the success of If... in the first place?
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competitive pokemon > competitive SMT
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>>173000293
He always looked to be in his late 20s at best to me.
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>>173000294
Just admit Persona>SMT, it's been out for less time and it is STILL more popular!
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>>173000438
I admit.
Now get the fuck outta here.
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>>173000293
They made some plot changes now the cast consist of genius high schoolers who were called for the mission grandpa,
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>>173000438
I'm gonna fuck you in the ass if you don't get to your containment thread now.
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>>173000565
Triggered much? just can't accept the truth?
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Help

On a NG+ run through Apocalypse and a door on the fifth floor of the Cosmic Egg won't open for me, even though it was shown opening after I picked up the Rahu(?) Pillar.
Please don't tell me I'm fucked, I just fused Satan for fucks sake.
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Hoy.
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>>173000758
I don't mind giving you the (You)s.
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>>173000758
>le daddy issues man
Anon please
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How do I run SMTI and II on the WiiU?
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>>173000778
Aren't there two pillars on the 5th floor? Maybe you didn't get the second one yet.
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>>173001041
barely chokes 'em down
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is this the persona thread? i love those games.
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Your favorite weeb game developing company/studio will make a spin-off of your favorite SMT main series game that isn't an RPG. Could be a beat'em, hacker'slasher, action-adventure, platformer, shooter, etc...

Which studio would you want doing this for SMT I, II, III, or SJ, or IV? And what game genre would you want the spin-off to be?
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>>173001397
I don't want spin-offs fucker
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is he "our guy"?
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>>173001192
Just found the second one and can confirm that I am indeed not fucked. A while ago someone claimed they ran into some game-breaking bug in the Egg and I couldn't help but be paranoid. My bad.
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>>173001397
>Nocturne by Platinum games
Fund it
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>>173001493
Too bad kiddo. I'm gonna say anyways Platinum doing a 3rd Person style hacker for SMT 1.
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>>173001041
If you hack your Wii U, you can use RetroArch to run it. On the other hand, you can also inject the game. This will make it behave exactly like an official VC game. The steps for doing that is a bit complex, so you'll need to search up a tutorial.
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>>173001504
yeah
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>>172988019
Nanashi is not YHVH. Satan, who is unbiased, agrees that he's still better than YHVH.

Who on Bonds tries o offer you a chance to be in his good graces again and rewards you by trying to kill you quickly.

>>172988515
Salcoholicd Chinese Demon commanding the others was a monster in some legends and benevolent in others.

Sun Wukong and Guan Yu are portrayed better than her and hr minions in sidequests.
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Is this the Persona spin-off I've been hearing so mu-little about?
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>some cocksucker from /pg/ is literally just avatar-fagging in the thread

Neat. Its like a little autistic boy who wants the attention of his abusive father despite all the drunken beatings and neglect heaped upon him.
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>>172997674

The Gaea Ring doesn't really receive nationalist focus in SMTIV, unlike in SMTI. It's the Neutral side which receives that focus, and why people complained about it in IV (and why that same complaint isn't made about Apocalypse).

The law forces are depicted doing minor pointless stuff, like specifically ordering the monks to convert all text in the ancient "mystic script" (Japanese) to the common language with western characters.

The Neutral path, rather than highlighting humans standing for themselves, feature them being saved by the benign Japanese gods. You've got Masakado's power standing up and leading to the defeat of both foreign forces, alongside the game ending with the restoration of the soul/goddess of Tokyo. The entire National Divinities group also is portrayed positively and basically forced to fight against their will.

Really, it's very blatant, and it's not comparable to what SMTI did at all, since back then it was Gaea that was associated with Japanese traditions and gods, not the Neutral path.

Apocalypse doesn't suffer from this issue at all though, so bringing it up is pointless.
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THE DARK SOULS OF PERSONA
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>>173001795
I don't even know how I botched Xi Wangmu.
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>>173001937
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How do I get my friend to play SMT? He loves Persona and I know that Persona is the better series by far but SMT isn't that bad.
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>>173002496
people only play SMT for the e-cred
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Which is the better skill path for Nemissa? Calm, Sexy, or Upbeat?
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>>173002614
To be honest with you that's why I started playing SMT, but it turns out it's not as bad as I thought it was, definitely not as good as Persona though.
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>>173002730
Sexy gives you lightning skills and lightning skills are cool.
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>>173002730
I like Upbeat
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>>173002730
I remember Sexy being the best because of the lightning skill set.
I'd like to try a different one in a run sometime though.
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>>173002915
>>173002990
Doesn't she also get Almighty skills?
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>>173003070
Yes, that's right.
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>>173002730
>Have to describe Hitomi with these words
>Sexy only applies to Nemissa
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>>173002730
>>173002915
>>173002984
>>173002990
>Nemissa
>When this hunk of ass exists
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>>173003070
they all get megido, sexy gets megidola
upbeat gets naomi's skill that does 4 fire hits, which is why I prefer it
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>>173002039
>The Gaea Ring doesn't really receive nationalist focus in SMTIV, unlike in SMTI.
So now you're trying to backpedal it.
>and why people complained about it in IV
Wha?
>You've got Masakado's power standing up and leading to the defeat of both foreign forces
Except both final bosses were defeated by fucking Flynn himself?
>The law forces are depicted doing minor pointless stuff, like specifically ordering the monks to convert all text in the ancient "mystic script" (Japanese) to the common language with western characters.
When exactly americans wanted to eliminate japanese language again?

I think you've got autism of some sort. All your suggestions sounds forced and can be destroyed with simple grain of plot details. You can call the game message nationalistic on the every occasion of japanese character acting rebellious if you want.
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>>173003221
I agree. Potter is attractive.

Munehisa is more my tastes though.
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>>173003221
Potter is only hot because he's Gnostic Lucifer in his soul.

>Phantom Thieves all have Chaosfags as their Personas except for Pope Johanna
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>>173003358
>So now you're trying to backpedal it.
Nah, it's my first post in this thread today.

>Wha?
I mean... I guess you weren't here after SMTIV came out in English? It was something often brought up.

>Except both final bosses were defeated by fucking Flynn himself?
Masakado breaks the barriers they had put up and the dialogue highlights his help, even though gameplay-wise it's obviously the player is doing most of the work.

>When exactly americans wanted to eliminate japanese language again?
Not Americans, the angels. If you talk with the monastery people after they take over, you get that bit. They're basically erasing not only the culture, but even the Japanese language itself at that point. Obviously by itself it wouldn't mean much, but when you add up everything else the nationalist vibe of IV is pretty clear.

It's also pretty contrasting with Apocalpyse where Masakado and the Goddess just leave, rather than the game ending with them reigning over a restored Tokyo.
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>>173003358
Haven't you heard? Furigana is racist and was implemented solely for purpose of destroying mighty Japan!
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>>173003878
Mikado does speak Japanese at least. That's something even Mikado can't change.

Also let's not foget the children in the arks came from across the world. K is blonde because his ancesrors were non asians with blonde hair.
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>>173003878
I thought the goddes of tokyo leaves to look for new heroes to kill you and restore tokyo

what faggot ending did you play?
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>>173004338
The Goddess ran off because you didn't revive her for being a useless bitch. The artbook even states she made the Expanse which is the dumbest shit.
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>>173000524
I want to matting press with Alex.
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>>173000524
I fully expect the reveal of this cunt's true form to be Doi's SMT4A Satan design.
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I'm convinced that the anti-persona posters in /smtg/ are newfags that are trying to fit in.
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>>172996986
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So, how will Maria fit SMT's cosmology in Deep Strange Journey? Will it be just be an artificial creation named after her again or will it be the actual one this time?

Will she be law aligned or will they go with her "God" not actually being YHVH?
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>>173006531
preachy demon boss #9 who whines about mankind consuming too much pornography
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https://youtu.be/qAXH06d-2ww
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>>173007334
>Posting Persona in /smtg/
???
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>>173007334
Persona is dumb.
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If the SJ marines are supposedly the best people from the around the world.
How did fucking Anthony get in?
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>>173008692
Just because he's thirsty as fuck doesn't mean he's not a good marine
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>>173006246
Or jaded shitposters trying to force some meme.

Don't sweat it, anon, just ignore it and move on.
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Did you join the club yet?
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>>173008692
They needed a guy willing to fuck anything.
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>>173003185
She looks pretty sexy while naked.
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>>173009503
I'm imagining Gore looking at a status report and authorising the deployment of "the fuckguy".
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>>173008692
>>173009503
This. He might be be horny for women but that doesn't mean he's a shitty soldier. I'm actually though surprised he's part of the strike team. Thought he was part of the operations or tech crew, not the strike team.
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what is best demon race and why is it fiend?
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>>173009713
Because Trumpeter.
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>>172980753
Doi sucks shit for real, get this anIME TRASH OUT OF MY MEGATEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEE
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>>173009862
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>>173010052
Megaten was anime as fuck since its conception.

Get over it.
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>>173009713
uhh.. divine is
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>>172980753
This shit better seriously have a DLC for original portraits.
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>>173010504
dlc for nothing?
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>>173010504
It could happen. The EO and EOII remakes included the original ones as DLC for free for the first week or so.

I might just turn portraits off this time if they look as strange in-game as they do in the previews.
I've always liked the little sprites in the background more anyway.
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>>173010625
DLC to remove shit portraits, yes.
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>>173010504
>>173010870
None of the Investigation Team had portraits to begin with besides the protagonist in the original game, anon. In fact besides the protagonist, Jimenez, Zelenin, and Gore, and Arthur, I don't think Kaneko even drew official illustrations for Zoe, Dent, Irving, Chen, Maebe, Anthony, etc...
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>>173011280
I know they didn't, I'm saying I'd rather remove the portraits of the newfags to have Kaneko portraits back for the main cast.
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>>173011280
just ask kaneko nicely to do them
he'll shit something out
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>>173011280
I know that. We're talking about the ones that already existed.
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>>173002730

Sexy. Lightning doesn't do much when every other demon after the halfway point either nulls or reflects magic anyway and Almighty can't be blocked.
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>>173011456
So just the protagonist's then.
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>>173003185
Nemissa is literally in Hitomi's body, it's still Hitomi's body just in a hotter outfit and with a hairdye, ergo Hitomi is sexy.
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>>173011603
Of course.
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>>173011443
Stephen a shit! A SHIT!
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>>173001397
>Grasshopper
>Strange Journey

I think I like this.
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>>173011920
Come on, now.
Remember when he helped Hero and Law Hero escape from the Hospital Jail Cell in Kichijoji?
When he showed us our first terminal, he 360 wheelied straight into my heart.
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Please tell me the line in Japanese was "onii-chan".
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>>173007657
>>173008107
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>>173012819
It was aniki
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>>173010189
Nocturne wasn't and the series started with it.
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>>173012990
But Nocturne isn't Megami Tensei I.
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>>173012870
>people insist on playing the psp version when the localization was the only saving grace of that shitty game
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>>173012819
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>>173013393
kahahahaa
if you consider FINAL a good game, but think P1 is bad u should kill urself
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>>173012819
DeSu localization is top tier senpai
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>>173013678
>>>/pg/<<<
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>>173013236
What madness is this?
Next you'll be telling me that Kaneko drew in a style that looked like generic 80s/90s anime before he started to draw everything as statues.
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>>173013678
top gringe
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>>173013818
Leave Raiden to me!
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>>173013678
Please tell me you can do a "....." run.
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>>173013852
what's cringe there
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>>173014043
He's trying to fit in with the cool guys.
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>>173013852
>cringe
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>>173014043
just the localization
plus i dont really the conversation look
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>>173014272
>i dont really the conversation look
cringe
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Is it fine to discuss P5 here?
Persona general is awful and waifu shit, I want to actually talk about the game, story, demons and shit.
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>>173012990
Nocturnes pretty anime.

>>173010052
Soul Hackers, EPP, IV, IVA all have perfectly good Doi redesigns.

He's only botched it with Deep SJ and Zelenin still looks the same.
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>>173014670
Sure but I don't think anyone here has even played it.
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>>173014670
fuck off
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>>173014764
The only problem I have with the new portraits is the huge mouth on Jimenez.
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>>173014670
I cried at the end of the Jimenez social link.
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>>173014921
fuck u
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Why isn't there more art of Nanashi getting cummed inside?
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>>173014670
No. Please go back to your containment general. Maybe we'll let you talk about it here in 10 years.
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>>173014670
I officially endorse you to do it.

Enjoy.
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>>173015767
This anon has no authority here. Ignore him
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>>173015975
You are fired.
Please take your things and leave.
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>>173016034
Fuck you, I quit!
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>>173014670
>demons
shadows* ;^)
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>>173016507
I am playing right now and it triggers me very badly for some reason.
Must be my autism.
They're corrupted demons or some shit.
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>>172970425
What's wong with Kaneko character designs that Doi needs to redraw every game he did?

I imagine a Nocturne HD Remaster that they change Demi-Fiend's design for Doi's for no fucking reason.
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>>173018037
Not smooth enough they need that extra vaseline to change spressions while they talk.
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What if the Mysterious Girl in DEEP is actually Doi Satan
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What's the name of the theme that plays in the DLC grindan areas in SMT IV? I swear to god I know the melody from somewhere else but I can't remember.
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>>173018750
She's Izanami.
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Judgement Light or Dekaja on Amaterasu?
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>>173018886
Shinjuku Medical Center from Nocturne.
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>>173020442
Fuck, I KNEW IT. Thanks.
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>>172997240
Honestly if you go around agreeing with some points then rejecting the Reason of the person you agreed with over and over you deserve the Demon ending.
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>>172997240
I got the Demon Ending in my first run, how long is the extra dungeon in the TDE? Its worth to play all the game again just to get Dante and another ending?
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Is it worth runners Critical Eye over Charge?
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>>173022145
running*
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>>173014976
>he didn't max bugabooboo's link before it happened to save him
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>>173019684
>not izanagi
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>>172984980
>You will never drop a colony into Earth in Lucifer's name
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is there any possibility of Alex fighting barefoot?
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your opinion on Shin Megami Tensei if...
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Is Nanashi cute
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>>173024438
Yeah sure why not
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>>173024421
More like IF I COULD READ IT
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>173024438
he would be if he was female
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>>173006151
Everyone seems to think Alex is a demon. I hope it's more than just wishful thinking
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>>173021704
The dungeon is pretty tedious and difficult, not too long, though.

I'd say it's worth it for the demon fusions you unlock + the secret ending and all that shit. And you got the worst possible ending on your first run so you definitely should play the game again.
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>>173024421
T-Translation when?
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>>173025346
It also gets you a YHVH send of a picasa
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new to playing this series, what does it mean when the bar is orange?
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>>173027418
Enemy incoming. It will turn red soon.
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>the last game with a good heroine was SMT 2
Defend this.
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>>173027686
>What is Amane
>What is Nemissa
>What is Demifiend's Pixie
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>>173027686
Women are shit.
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Stop being a fag, Mono
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>>173028219
I LOVE Amane!
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>>173028219
Is Dagda the heroine of SMT IVA?
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>>173030261
He is the only character that never leaves your side, so yes.
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>>173014764

So, it seems like Doi isn't the one messing up with Kaneko's designs this time. That's why they seem like just edits.

http://shin-megamitensei.jp/dsj/

>New character Alex and new demons like Amon have are illustrated by Masayuki Doi. Other characters have also have newly added facial expressions and such thanks to the Atlus Design Team, and the main story is fully voiced.
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>>173032353
I bet fucking Atlus Design Team is made of monkeys just like their localization/translation team.
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>>173033278
>I bet fucking Atlus Design Team is made of monkeys just like their localization/translation team.
Actually the localisation/translation team is just the one monkey.
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>>173033826
>tfw a monkey works on both Atlus JP and Atlus USA
>meanwhile, I'm just a NEET
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Well fuck guys, they already fixed horrendous graphics issues and framerate actually looks pretty playable.
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>>173032353
>Doi did nothing wrong
Thank god.
Bunch of fuck ups.
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>>173034860
Wow, they went from 5 to 10 fps.
Enjoy your scraps NEETboy.
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>>173038969
Best part is it's not even the better version (PS4).
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>>172965286
>thinking megaten games have too much open endedness in early game choices.
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>>173039850
>Start DeSu 2
>Plays first 2 days blind
>Check guide
>Majority of my choices were not optimal for gaining Fate points
>No chance at ever getting true ending
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>>172977773
>Just wait until he starts accusing SMTIV and Atlus itself of being nationalist

Anon, atlus is nationalist as balls.
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>>173001552
Why does he look like he's trying to hold in pee while waiting for the bathroom? Do each of yhvh's heads have to take a shit independently?
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>>173013818
>get to heaven
>turns out heaven is an 80s biker meetup.
>angel gives you the whirlies and says to get this square out of here.
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SMT x The Warriors
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>>173040853
SMT x My dick
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SMT x Nasuverse

>>173040384
>YHVH
Anon, I..
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moonspeaker in to let you guys know that P5 is the best megaten game since strange journey and hope everyone not autistic in this general enjoys it
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>>173042727
I sure hope so.
Thanks for the heads up.
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>>173042849
no problem, bro

opinions are opinions, but negotiating and seeing all the SMT demons in HD 3D was just such a treat.
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>>173038969
>being a consolecuck
Enjoy your betatesting kid.
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>Congratulations on completing the quest, Master. You sure showed those dog-eating chinks who's boss. It's like another Nanking in here.
Jesus christ. How did Yamai ever get away with writing such a contrived excuse for xenophobia into a modern game?
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rip doomguy's cheekbones
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>>173042917
>SMT demons in HD

Someone needs to take screenshots.
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me
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>>173039586
PS4 version is just a fucking upscale of the PS3 version anyway.
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>>173045905
How did they fuck up the anime adaption so bad? Why couldn't we just have Autism MC instead of generic hero guy?
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>>173046465
How much better would the anime have been if everything was the same except MC is autistic as his game counterpart.
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>>173047226
>How much better would the anime have been?
1000% better.
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>>173045072
Yamai is great, the only hope of megaten desu
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>>173048861
T. Goddess of Tokyo
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So was this an actual girl, or Yamato turned into a futa?
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>>173049262
Well, she gets naked in the game and nobody mentions her having a dick, so probably a girl.
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>>173049369
parents have him on HRT since child for shriveled unoticable dick
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>>173049369
>penis gets smaller with hormones
>keeps it tucked between those thick thighs constantly
Even the MC thinks its a tranny Yamato.
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Which demonfu is the purest?
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>>173050349
Shadow Naoto
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>>173050349
Moh shuvuu. She kills you if you think dirty thoughts.
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Are Dagda and Stephen fuckbuddies? How do they know each other.
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>>173050761
They don't know eachother. What are you talking about?

Dagda makes a weird noise when first seeing steven because he realizes that despite looking ostensibly human, he transcended his humanity and is powerful as fuck. And could easily be a huge problem to dagda's plans if he turned out to be against you and willing to act directly.
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I just beat SMTIV for the first time. I ended up with Law route, which is fine by me because I always find Law pretty cool. I'm going to replay it to get the Neutral route some time in the future. Should I play it on hard mode? Normal wasn't that difficult, there was some bumps along the way and it was far from trivial but I found other SMT games to be more difficult. I've never played hard mode in an SMT, does it require some grinding to compensate for the difficulty or is it more about clever stat investment, party build and of course strategy? AKA being able to beat it by just playing really well. Finally anyone want to suggest a fun build for the Neutral playthrough? I did a Magic build for Law because I've never done one and Magic suits Law somewhat.
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>>173051325
The only thing that makes Hard mode grindy is that it makes the Compendium cost more. Some people turn down the difficulty when using the Compendium and then up otherwise.
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>>173050349
you
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Haven't played Apocalypse since October and I can't figure out where to go from Tsukiji Konganji. I'm pretty sure I beat the boss in the middle since then, but I have no new quest lines up so I don't know where to go next or if I have more to do here.
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>>173014670
Sure. I got my copy today but I'm still outside and can't go home to play it yet. Fuck.
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>>173056017
A red arrow will tell you where to go.
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>>173045072
>It's like another Nanking in here.
I'm deeply troubled by this.
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Oh-ho-ho! I spy with my little eye...

A belly button~!
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>>173057827
Oh-ho-ho! I spy with my little eye...

A faggot!
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>>173045072
>Nanking
...did they really write that? holy shit.
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>>173059343
yep, and don't forgot Johnathan's speech to the archangels about preserving a peaceful Mikado with no niggers
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>>173059343
Nah, it's just some anon who seems to have just learned yesterday that many people complained about SMTIV feeling too nationalist and seems to be annoyed about that.
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>>173051325
What I do for the grindy parts is just decrease the difficulty, then up the difficulty afterwards when I'm finished. It's not really cheating, just making shit faster by being able to set it on autoplay more and not have to worry too much.

For IV/IVA it's not so much grinding but being able to play it well, yeah. Of course you'll need to sometimes grind for demon whispers or the level requirements of a fusion.

Play the RNG game and go with a high luck/agility + Dex build. Dunno how viable it is in IV but I had fun with it on IVA.
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>>173059654
Is STR shit or something? I always had a demon specializing in STR in my party but I felt like they underperformed. The main reason being that skills all use mana instead of HP. I could barely use my powerful skills, I resorted to just using Fang Breaker, Charge and basic attack for most of the game, then using stuff like Nihil Claw and Hades blast towards the end.
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there's no need to fear because Nigga Pascal is here.
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now what do you guys think of my name.
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>>173060403
Fang Breaker is legit as fuck
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>>173060403
Str is kind of shit, yeah. Reason is because it boosts normal phys attack + phys skills, but dex boosts normal gun attack + gun AND phys skills. No reason to invest Str for your protag when Dex exists.
As for the MP part, party MP restoration is imo one of the highest priority apps you should get. You really won't have a problem throughout the game when it comes to MP, and HP is easy to restore since you can have skills for that.
>I resorted to just using Fang Breaker, Charge and basic attack for most of the game, then using stuff like Nihil Claw and Hades blast towards the end.
Sounds like an issue of having demons with low MP, or nothing to aid with MP usage.

Also Fang Breaker is always a great skill, despite its weak power. I abused it a lot with IVA's last boss because of its low MP + effect/chance to crit.
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>>173062141
Well, demons with high STR have shit MP. Am I supposed to use those demons with perfectly balanced stats who have more MP, rather than high STR demons?
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Atlus think they slick, he DABBIN'
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>>173062414
It's not really simple like that because it all depends on how you're playing + your party, right?

High str demons have their own uses, especially if they come with high bulk. Boss battles are a given (buff them up, switch or have them die when MP becomes an issue or replenish MP), or late battle when you're just focusing on doing sheer damage to the guy because they're nearing death.
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>>173062141
Also, do remember that STR only gives a slight boost to physical skills, compared to the major boost DEX gives to gun skills.
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>>173059531
>a peaceful Mikado with no niggers

Sounds good to me.
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>>173064196
>tfw went with Chaos as first playthrough
Turns out Jonathan was the better husbando
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>>173062141
in 4A, they fixed it, so that physical skills only scaled with str, and gun skills only scaled with dex. so in that game it's arguably more worth it to do a str build.

Str builds in 4 are terrible, though
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>>173064359
Law heroes are always the best.
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>>172970425
doi was a mistake
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doi a good boy
>>173032353

it's the team of temps
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>>173054757
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>>173064960
>IVA chaos and law routes were practically non-existent and half-assed
Activated my almonds.
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>>173032353
Doi is literally our guy and is the true successor to Kaneko, Atlus Design Team be damned
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>>173066515
Papa Yammy won't allow that.
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>>173045072
>"They didn't call them SINo-Japanese relations for nothing, kuomintang subhumans"
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>>173066679
But Yamai and Doi are united by a soul pact.
Like how Kaneko sacrificed his spirit and passed it on to Doi so he could preserve the Megaten series without the need of his physical form.
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>>173066679
What do you mean? Yamai and Doi haven't had any conflicts as far as I'm aware. Looking at the interviews that Yamai has had with Doi and Kaneko, it seems like he's not the kind of guy to restrict people's creativity.
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So given what we've seen from IV and IV-A, what's the likelihood of Atlus introducing more DLC content with DSJ?
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>>173067194
I can't wait for the Beach Sector DLC
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>>173067194
100%
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Random question, but does the Raidou version of Nocturne add anything other than replacing Featuring Dante From Devil May Cry?
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>>173067194
Almost 100%. I suggest you just hack your 3DS and get the DLC that way. Honestly, I'm not against all DLC, but what Atlus has been doing is criminal.
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>>173067325
>Angels and other sexy semen demons in lewd beach outfits
>Game temporarily changes to Anthony being the MC
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>>173067352
Nope. The only changed content is Raidou
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>>173056826
>Orgone ghost
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>>173067481
>human characters onry
>except Bugaboo
>in skimpy bikini
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>>173067906
Don't sexualize Bugaboo!
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>>173068009
If Bugaboo wants to be sexy and proud, who are we to deny him?
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>>173067906
>>173067906
>and Mastema
>a'la Borat
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>>173068093
His parent figure?
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>>173067906
>Zel in skimpy bikini
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>Playing P5
>encounters are pretty easy
>get to the last section of the first Palace
>enemies are now twice my level and OHKO my party

What the fuck. Am I supposed to ignore these fuckers?
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Orden's not likely to release a new patch for SMT I&II any time soon, is he? I kinda want to start a new playthrough, since I never actually finished either.
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>yfw Deep Strange Journey not only adds saving anywhere at any time, but also other stupid casual bullshit like Etrian Odyssey Untold's floor jump
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>>173069440
Yeah, I don't think those games will be receiving any more updates. SMT1 has an official translation up on the App Store if you're interested. But aside from that, there's nothing new.
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>>173069893
You know the original game's dungeon/level designer is overseeing this right? So I really doubt that's going to happen. I hope.
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>>173069946
I have an android phone, and if they haven't ported it by now, I doubt they ever will.
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>>173070139
>You know the original game's dungeon/level designer is overseeing this right?
You realize those same people worked on Etrian Odyssey as well, right?
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>>173069893
Good.
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>>173069362
>Posting Persona in /smtg/
?????
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>>173069893
Just don't use it.
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>>173070216
You do realize SJ is basically an EO game with Megaten facelift to begin with right?
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>>173070450
Not really, EO games have the mapping shit and the bosses are more of a gear/level checks than megaten bosses.
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>>173070450
I don't remember the EO games having as much enforced backtracking.
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>>173070668
>bosses are gear/level checks
ah, so you've never played an EO game

>>173070825
if you don't backtrack in EO then you're a literal god, the fuck are you on
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Ok, I got my first ending in SMT IV.

Why do people call the White ending bad? I kinda liked it.

Then again, maybe it's my depression talking
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>>173071587
I'm just playing through EO1 nigga, there everything after Fenrir has been a pushover and he was a gear/levelcheck
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>>173070825
You obviously haven't played 2 or 3 in a long time then.
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>>173071623
It's bad in the sense that it's like 'whatever', I guess.

What main ending are you going for?
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>>173071760
You haven't gotten to royalant or iwaoropenelep yet? those guys actually require strategy. i guess they're "gear/level" checks in the sense that you should be at a certain level to beat them but you still need to use your brain
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>>173071948
I just play and see what kind of ending I'll get first, I only learned that this was a "premature" ending after I started NG+ and overwritten my save


I have another save but in Blasted Tokyo.
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>>173072273
I killed royalant It was just fenrir 2.0 with a blind except this time I actually got skills to use.
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>>173071623
>Why do people call the White ending bad? I kinda liked it.
Because you give up. You take your ball and go home. You don't prove anything about what mankind is or what it should be, other than pressing a button you shouldn't have.

Then again you're depressed so you're too mentally ill to get that in the first place.
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>>173072582
I guess compared to the other bosses it was "difficult".
The hardest time I've had was with golem where I actually had to use one consumable because like a retard I forgot to refresh immunize.
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>>173071587
*Enforced* backtracking. As in the game makes you go back to the first two or three floors every other fucking hour for plot reasons.
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>>173072797
I wouldn't describe it as "taking the ball and going home" but more like blowing up the playground or poop inside the pool.
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Was an OST for the PSP versions of P2:IS/EP ever released? What was it called?
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>>173041449
It won't work. Everything that is not a heroic spirit is severely outclassed by mid-level demons and the heroic spirits can't match the top demons. While they are powerful, demons simply have too much magic to be severely affected by their unique abilities.

The power of demons makes magecraft pointless by comparison.
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>>173073915
but you can just shoot demons
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I wish they would try the devil children idea again
Megami tensei monsters focusing on multiplayer, Im sick of having to go to pokemon to get that fix
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SMT x Castlevania when? Illustrations by Amane, Kaneko, and directed by Igarashi when?
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>>173074412
>every team is the same shit
>but with more cheese
But that's pokemon
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>>173074195
Only if you're an elite soldier trained in gorilla warfare, equipped with magical guns and a demon summoning program.

And why can't you just shoot heroic spirits? Kiritsugu didn't do it, because he had easier targets, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
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>>173074870
Obviously it would be balanced somehow. Though it kinda goes against the idea of the main games were some demons are obviously better then others
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>>173001397
>Killer is Dead spin-off style game by Suda from SJ
My DICK!
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>>173074890
>Only if you're an elite soldier trained in gorilla warfare, equipped with magical guns and a demon summoning program.
>what is SMT1
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I love Atlus USA they're best company in the world
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>>173075145
>what is SMT1
Get with the times, grandpa. We DEEP now.
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>>173074195
>>173074890
Yeah remember how that worked for the Strike Team before they got the DSP? They got slaughtered in Antilla.
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>>173075125
Suda is a CEO now, anon.
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>>173075185
I mean, the reason people play Persona is for the story. Streamers will hurt their bottom line.
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>>173075185
>being a filthy chaosfag
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>>173075265
He still makes games anon. In fact, he's directing No More Heroes 3 right now.
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>>173075185
>Persona 5 is a chill game
Within the first three hours I've seen physical abuse by a teacher, sexual abuse by a teacher, MC getting tortured, and a girl trying to kill herself.
I wouldn't call P5 chill.
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>>173076207
>I mean, the reason people play Persona is for the story.
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>>173076862
He probably implied 1 and 2.
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>>173077007
>P1&2 story
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>>173076862
Oh, sorry I just lump all cutscenes in with story. What I meant was that people play these games mostly for the characters and waifus.
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>>173077197
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This shit is boring as hell. God fucking dammit, I played P3 a few days ago and had a surprising blast with it, but this shit is just doesn't feel right at all. What the fuck.
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>>173077197
Yes, P1 and P2/IS-EP have a fair story to them.
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>>173077971
Is it worth playing on Hard first playthrough or should I just stick to normal?
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>>173077971
Be more specific or dont bother to post.
Or just go to the persona general
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>>173082195
why has this gen been so bitter about persona 5 in the past few days? i've never gotten so much hate for discussing the games here.
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>>173082627
Has it? I just got back to this general after months because Im back in a smt mood.
I know /v/ shits on it but they shit on everything so
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>>173082627
Their complaints about Deep Journey aren't working anymore, so they're fishing for (You)s with P5 instead.
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>>173082779
/v/ would use insults based on console warring or weebiness or something, don't think most would come outside of asking a question or beelining straight for /pg/ because people rightfully dislike most of /vg/.
>>173082627
Because people can't handle the fact that Persona waifus>mainline waifus
But everyone knows Devil summoner trumps both
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>>173080965
Hard to say, since I started on Hard and barely can feel anything from it at all.
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>>172994196
I dont mind the changes but the real reason was probably because of the new animated cutscenes which obviously could never have the level of detail of the old portrait, this way it doesnt look much different.
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>>173083119
>rightfully
I won't say it's right or wrong but what I will say about /vg/ is that it feels more like a community and less like a bunch of random idiots phishing for outrage. I feel like I can actually have decent discussions here and have played a lot of games with people on /vg/.

Of course none of this really means anything but it feels like a more enjoyable use of my time than seeing essentially every game released called 'shit' with absolutely no basis but some console war memeshit. Like honestly, why does anyone still care about brand loyalty? just play your games or whatever man
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>>173080965
Usually not picking the hardest difficulty available is a mistake in megaten games and persona is no exception.
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>>173082627
>dude simply tells that game is boring
>'waaah-waaah phishing for (You)'s!!'
Jesus Christ calm your autism down.
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man SMT2's SNES soundtrack is dull
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>>173084765
Impossible with that disco track.
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>>173084765
Fuck you. I bet you play Persona games
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>>173084765
Strong bait.
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Does the new 3DS game have a release date yet?
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>>173084723
nah idiot, I saw a motherfucker getting roasted for simply posting a P3 portrait earlier. I don't know where you retards are coming from but Persona is still part of the franchise. are they the best games? no. are there still people who enjoy them and mainline (as well as other spin-offs). you bet your ass there are so you shouldn't be surprised it comes up in the damn shin megami tensei general
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>>173085020
that one is good

also i mentioned the SNES for a reason, the PS1 version has much better samples
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>>173085497
70% complete
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>>173085516
There's a very vocal part of /smtg/ that gets triggered harder than tumblr whenever anything remotely anime is brought up.

Watch this
"I think #FE was pretty good"
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>>173085806
Even the so bad they are awesome OVAs?
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>>173085961
No, the OVAs are god tier
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>>173085762
Ty
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>>173085961
P3 invented anime
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>>173084510
It honestly varies from general to general and usually is reliant on how alive the game/series is or anything about the franchise in general.
You get more chill discussion here but at times you can get a random good and fresh discussion but on the other hand /v/'s filled with shitposting Canadians and /vg/ got the blogposting circlejerks who don't discuss the game at all anymore.
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Honestly the newfags shitting on persona posting in /smtg/ need to shut the fuck up, we've always discussed persona here.
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>>173087812
Kill yourself Personacuck
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>>173089839
I've played more Megaten than you newfag.
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Why /smtg/ doesn't try to translate one game of the series like Nine or If?

PSX versions of SMT1/2 could be awesome too.

I don't believe Gideon will finish to translate If one day.
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>>173090914
>4chan
>able too organize complex projects like this
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>>173089954
I played all the megatens nub
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>>173090989
also here are things i found out about the PS1 port:
>all the HUD text is stored as simple ASCII
>the dialogue shit is all proprietary from what i can see
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>>173087812
But the issue is this is a /shin megami tensei general/ general and not a /persona games general/, which you have a general thread already for.
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>>173090914
Didn't Nine come out on the Xbox for the West anyways?
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>Late on the first day
>nobody likes you
>everyone talking shit about you
Just like those dreamlike days. How nostalgic.
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>>173092125
I don't remember a first day mechanic in SMT games.
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>>173092014
No.
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>>173092449
Brb making a Speesh Marine edit of this.
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>>173091446
Yes, but this is the way it's always been, so shut the fuck up.
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>>173092389
You haven't played Devil Survivor yet? What a faggot.
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>>173092630
That's not what happened in Devil Survivor 1.

>>173092620
So go there instead. I've been here since 2000 and Purseowner fags aren't allowed in my SMT fanclub dork.
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>>173092818
Then why didn't you complain months ago when we were discussing P5 when it was brand new?
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>>173092818
Persona gen is for waifu posting. SMT gen is for real discussion and demonfu posting

like I said before, I was discussing persona games here like last week and had regular conversation. where are you guys coming from?
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>>173093016
>>173093132
I did though and I still am. There's a dedicated general for this if you just want to talk about a non-SMT Megaten games, an entire one specifically for Persona. Why do you have to drag it in here?
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>>173093132
They are mad kids because atlus is banning all persona streams on twitch
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>>173093132
P1 and P2 are fine to discuss. Everything doesn't mesh with SMT and other Megaten games like P3, P4, and P5 are really unnecessary.

>>173093016
Probably really does not help that someone was avatar-fagging Goro and Potter kun in here last night just for (You) and bait responses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ6Hvs5mxUU
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>>173093240
>do you have to drag it in here
Mainline fans have better perspective. Persona only fans don't know what they're talking about.
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>>173032353
How many of those new demons illustrated by Masayuki Doi will be ones introduced in Apocalypse? Which of the Apocalypse demons would fit right int Deep Strange Journey's narrative?
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>>173093480
>and P5
P5 is literally the most SMT persona since 2.
The main villains are literally the four archangels and demiurge, demon negotiations are present, actual demons instead of shadows and so on.
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>>173076634
I hope the next Persona game is this edgy. I want pure anime waifu shitters and happy go lucky SoL fans out.
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>>173093914
Yaddabloh ! = Demiurge
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>>173094263
Wrong. They're one and the same, they've been interchangeable in Megaten since forever.
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>>173093914
My friend literally returned his copy after four hours of playing it and saying how garbage the gameplay boiling down to essentially presss "this button to win".

P5 is shit.

>>173094303
Demiurge in SJ and IV does not even look the same as Yaddabloth in NINE or P5.
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>>173094396
>My friend
Stopped reading there, leave SMTG
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>>173094396
>Demiurge in SJ and IV does not even look the same as Yaddabloth in NINE or P5.
Neither do Satan and so on in SMT4/A, your point you retard? Designs always changed.

>>173094396
>my friend
>i never played it tho
Please get cancer and die you /v/ermin trash.
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>>173094468
>SMTG
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>>173094506
Satan doesn't even remotely compare to the concept with the Demiurge vs Yaddabloath you troglodyte mouth-breathing failure of a sub-human bean.
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>>173094569
Suck My Tangy Genitals
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>>173094717
Is this the new gay fad Persona babies are into these days?
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>>173094708
>Satan redesign is not the same as Demiurge/Yaldabaoth redesign
Neck yourself.
Don't even get me started on the fact that Yaldabaoth has different design in P5 than he did in NINE, are you going to say that Yaldabaoth is not Yaldabaoth based on this?
You are beyond fucking retarded.
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>>173094846
Kill yourself son of faggot
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>>173094875
>redesigned.
Kill yourself retard with your goal post moving.
>>
Dagda did nothing wrong.
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>>173094918
No you, Son of Autism.
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>>173093914
>actual demons instead of shadows
It's amazing how one can shitpost to this extent without even touching the game. Also P4 confirmed for true SMT since Izanami is the last boss.
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>>173095217
>getting autistic about abbreviating S&M /tg/
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>>173095349
>getting autistic about being called out to go back to your cancer-general
Confirmed /v/ermin indeed.
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>>173092449
>>173092540
I gave up completely. The DEMONICA helmet is too complicated for me to pull this off, someone else should do it.
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>>173095430
Welcome to /smtg/ you little bitch if you haven't played Debisama best step the fuck back
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>>173095669
>Debisama
>best
>>
Persona
>>
You're not me
Is that crap still in the new one?
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Ryuji best boy
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>>173095952
>>173095839
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>>173095839
PERSONA
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>>173096120
Why are you posting Doomguy from JoJo's Fist of the North Star?
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>>173096120
Would the shadow of American space marine just be the Japanese space marine?
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>>173096286
Yes.
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>>173096286
No
>>
>>173095952
>>173096114
So is Anthony supposed to be the one guy that just posts demon girls?
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>>173096286
Maybe
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>>173096286
Maybe.
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Do you go to inaba for a few days in the new game?
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In P5 if Protag dies the game is over. P5 confirmed more hardcore than SMT IV.
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>P5 on the PS4 is just an upscaled version of the PS3 P5 game
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>>173096818
Dunno, DSJ isn't out yet. Though Inaba wasn't in SJ if I'm remembering correctly so probably not.
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>>173077971
Honestly, fucking THIS.
It's been three hours, shit is even more mundane than P4 opening for me.
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>>173096907
It has the better Archangel designs too.
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>>173096907
So is P3 and 4
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>>173097220
>shit is even more mundane than P4 opening for me.
How? There's combat and dungeon exploration in the first three days. You have to wait like a week in P4 to get to most of that.
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>>173096907
The whole "if all humans die, the game is over" has been a thing ever since the NES games. However, those games, and most SMT games until Nocturne, you had more than one human in your party. That way, even if one human died, you weren't completely fucked. I think that having you gave over instantly when the protagonist dies is not really in the spirit of the older games. That's why I don't mind the change in SMT4.
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>>173097465
>P5's combat
>depth

>>173096907
SJ did this years earlier.
>>
But what if they remove the game over on death in DEEP Strange Journey?
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>>173097540
Would you be okay with getting a game over if both Flynn and his/her partner died?
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Stop talking about Persona in a Shin Megami Tensei general, for God's sake.
>>
>>173095091
It wasn't supposed to be intentional though. Dagda was clearly meant to be wrong for wanting YHVH dead and replaced with a human shaped creator in a brand new universe. It never occurred to anyone making the game that people would side with Dagda because he offered a much better reward to the player for spending hours on YHVH space and slaying god himself with Dagda and Satan's help than Bonds.
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>>173097936
.....
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>>173097936
t. Jonathan
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>>173097936
Pretty sure its the same autist memeing up thread whose ass-blasted the janitor deleted all his posts from last night's sperg out he had.
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>>173097931
>flynn
>his/her
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>>173098013
But killing YHVH is always the right thing to do.
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>>173097849
they will
>>173097936
>stop talking about megaten in what is essentially the megaten general for gods sake
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>>173097936
>for God's sake.
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>>173098195
So which one is it? I'm confused.
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>>173098262
Where does it say /mtg/ in the OP?
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>>173097931
Sure, that sounds good enough. It would be a nice compromise. Although you would need to give players the option to put revival spells on some partners, and you would need to make it so that enemies attack the partner more when the MC is dead.
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>>173098013
except the commentary in the artbook validates both endings
the way they ended up being portrayed is definitely far from ideal because of the friend humping going on, but they still didn't intend for one to be "good" and "evil"

what bugs me is they already did this right in Devil Survivor, emphasis on characters but with lots of routes and SMT themes
on the other hand, plot/writing wise, 4A is everything bad about persona and smt in one package
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>>173098350
Yeah I like Magic the Gathering too.
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>>173098350
So you're saying there should be no
raidou
megami tensei
devil summoner
demi kids
last bible
jack bros
persona
or devil survivor discussion?
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>>173098508
You forgot SJ.
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>>173098508
The Demi kids games have SMT in the title though.
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>>173098596
SJ is mainline though. And Raido is honorary mainline. And Megami Tensei I and II which are predecessors to Shin Megami Tensei.

>no Persona
I'm honestly fine iwth this.
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>>173098328
Yes
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>>173098863
>d-do i fit in yet
>fuck persona 4 XD
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More importantly, are the OVAs allowed? They're the best things to come out of the entire franchise.
Someone stream it.
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>there's still no extended version of the tokyo midtown theme
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>>173098925
Who are you quoting, Son of Faggies?

>>173098508
Not him but other side games are all thematically closer to the main series; Megami Tensei and Shin Megami Tensei then Persona games generally are. In fact Persona general thread doesn't want through consensus discussions of stuff like Devil Survivor, Raido, Soul Hackers, Digital Devil Saga, which is why they fit in here.

We don't need two generals with diluted topics covering Persona in each of them.
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>>172967030
Atsuro. He will help you wrangle to forces of Hell to unite and kill God just so you don't have to do it alone. He earns the respect of Metatron for this. Mid battle.
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>>173098863
>SJ is mainline though.


>>173099014
OVA's are pure meme kino

Also it's not friday and I would stream it if I wasn't having problems with my graphics card
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>>173098914
Indeed
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>>173098416
I agree that the game didn't need friend humping because it already had female goddesses who want Nanashi's D very badly.
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>>173099285
>SMT I is not mainline
>SMT II is not mainline
>SMT If is not mainline
>SMT III/Nocturne is not mainline
>SMT SJ is not mainline
>I'm retarded please punch me in the face
Atlus disagrees.
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>pick up apoc for the first time
>meet up with isabeau and flynn for the first time
>check out isabeau's bio in the notes thing out of curiosity
>"isabeau has recently gotten into gay romance"
>put 3ds down
>breathe in deeply
>post here
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>>173099285
How can it not be when its listed as the first entry in the main series after a period of 6 years since Nocturne? Here's the (You) I guess, anon.
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>tfw found out today in the /m/ DSJ thread that Kaneko did work in Super Robot Wars
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>>173100471
Best OG in the game boyo
>start game
>strangely attracted to this
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>>173100094
>Asian man barges in and kicks your 3DS out of your window
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>>173101087
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>>173100094
it's disgusting that women like to see men take it up the butt

that's probably why she hung around flynn so much, she probably expected walter or jonathan to try docking him at some point because he's basically a woman
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>>173100094
Yeah, I thought was pretty weird. She's like 300 lbs. too light to be into that stuff
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>>173101087
>>173101290
They should just keep using Kaneko for stuff and never let that faggot Nagano neither SRW again.
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>>173100094
merky warned you about the filth
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>>173100094
Really makes you appreciate the Lord's will
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>>173101838
>Isabeau
>300 lbs
What?
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>>173103270
did you not read the rest of his sentence? 300 lbs TOO LIGHT.
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>>173103270
you stupid faggot.

she's 300 lbs too LIGHT. implying that the people who like that stuff are 400 some pounds.

why do I literally have to explain my literal joke
>>
>>173103450
>literally
>literal
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>>173103429
>>173103450
no, you guys are the stupid fags

he said, "300 pounds lb. (full stop) too light to be into that stuff"

That means he was saying she was 300 pounds, and then following up with that she was too light to be into that stuff.

Americans I swear
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>>173102921
>>173103107
you know, I thought killing isabeau on law in 4 was stupid.

but now I see that it truly was the correct path. and ofc apoc follows from neutral

nu-atlus, not even once
>>
>>173103547
(you)
>>
>>173103684
El retardo.
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>>173103762
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/punctuation/punctuation-in-abbreviations

Now fuck off
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>>173103547
>What is scientific usage and common usage
Autism
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>>173103547
Dumb ESL poster.
>>
>>173103980
>>173104023
>imperial measurements
>scientific
>common
hahahahahahhahahhahahahaahha
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>>173104112
(you)
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>>173103547
>Acting retarded when someone uses American English on an American board
If you don't like it go to the 4chan of whatever shithole you come from. I'm sure a lot of places have knock offs by now.
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>>173104229
Glad I skipped that SMTIV DLC.
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>>173104461
>amerifat gets triggered
every
single
time
do you guys have nothing better to do than to scream at non-americans while sitting in a puddle of your own grease and piss while proudly browsing your 'american' 4chan? what a sad existence

>>173104250
yeah ok bud, show me a science facility in the world that uses imperial. then, show me that most of the world uses imperial to prove it's common.

can't do either, huh, you pimply cuck? here's a few tips:
1. stop posting
2. hold your breath
3. die
>>
>>173104814
Stop speaking English.
>>
>>173097465
Amount of actual time you're spending on dumb shit before gameplay starts is about the same as in P4 though.
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>>173100094
Isabeau more like Weabeau.
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>>173104112
>>173104814
Super retard.
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>Persona now has better dungeons than smt
>More demons than smt games
>Is just as challenging maybe even more
>Story is better than it's ever been
SMTfags, how do you feel?
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>>173105525
But all of these shrektext claims are patently false.
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>>173105525
I feel like Debisama is a pretty fucking good game
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>>173105681
mfw it comes out here and is just as shit as SH
>>
>>173105773
SH was great though
Kind of too short and easy though which Debisama is much better balanced
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>>173105525
>Persona now has better dungeons than smt
Low-quality bait.
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>>173105525
>better dungeons
Christ no.

Even 4 and Final's big open areas are more than enough to beat out p5's

>more demons
All this means is it'll be hard going back to older games

>just as challenging maybe even more
For all its faults apoc's war and apocalypse difficulties shit all over persona 500x over

>story
Hahaha yeah me too bud
>>
>>173105525
>More demons than smt games
Wait, is that true? Persona 5 has more demons than SMTIV? I haven't followed it that closely, but that'd mean 440+ demons.
>>
>>173106360
He's shitposting.
>>
>>173106360
There are 225. Laughingstock of a compendium, as expected.
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>>173106360
We really need more demons with we want to keep up with pokemon
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>>173105525
Why couldn't you shitpost more subtlety anon?
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>>173094875
Not him, but what the fuck is with his design in P5? He is like a giant perfume bottle or a mecha.
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>>173106404
>>173106512

Ah, ok. I'd be really surprised if Atlus had managed to create so many 3d models.

Although, to be fair, the demon variety in SMTIV was kind of pointless aside from giving more variation to challenge quest lore, due to how the skill system worked.
>>
>>173106726
>I'd be really surprised if Atlus had managed to create so many 3d models.
Its basically just a bunch of slightly upgraded reused assets. Animations are completely the same, I can swear that even some students in school are using animations of character models from P3 and P4.
>>
>>173072797
Door a leads to craters and swarthy towelheads, door b leads to caste society that harvests hopes and dreams from slaves. Door c is going against everybody and somehow expecting it to go all right. Plus, whatever you chose won't matter when someone else will make his own choice.
"I don't think it's fair, no one should be forced to be subjected to such endless torment"
>"wow, aren't you an easily discouraged depression-ridden fella, just make the choice brah, and hope my crew won't nuke you to all hell"
Go away, Y**H
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Do you think aigis smells like lemons?
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>>173108414
No
>>
>>173108414
I think she seems like shit.
>>
Guys P5 is fun.
>>
I need the picture of Oni saying he likes Uzume's
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>Girlfriend broke up with me because I posted Persona in /smtg/
Fug
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>>173109768
>>173110080
This is getting boring /pg/.
>>
>>173110074
ass*
>>
>>173110105
Why are demonfus in SMT and the rest of Megaten better then Purseowner girls?
>>
>>173110080
>Persona waifu broke up with me because I posted about Pixie in /smtg/
Fug
>>
this is important

is mot in 5
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>>173110792
mothman? yeah, he's in p5
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>>173110080
You know what to do lad.
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>>173110792
Are you sure you don't mean Moot?
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>>173110921
>>173111357
don't do this to me
he's the love of my life
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Why don't they seriously make a Shin Megami Tensei anime?
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>>173111545
Brcause it would be the dark souls of anime
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>>173111469
He's in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIjVvnO5lgM
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Can we please stop replying to shitposters?
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>>173111704
But all the edgy teenagers and chuunis love Souls. And SMT is clearly aimed at that demographic given the main target group for IV and IV-A are edgy teenagers and power level autists. They could be making MILLIONS!
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>>173111709
I think the shitty pseudo-raid by personafags is honestly kind of cute though.
>>
>>173111545
Because they know nothing will top the OVAs.
>>
>>173111921
I only saw the one where the Chaosfag was gay for the MC.
>>
>>173099351
I really can't blame monkey for being a fujo
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>>173090914
I want Devil Children and Debisama subbed right now
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Reminder Jack Frost is the best and if you hurt or neglect him you are a monster.
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>>173113785
I want a jack plushie
>>
>>173113785
I want to put Jack Frost in front of a heater!
>>
>>173113785
I want to fuck a jack frost in its cold white pussy
>>
>>173111910
It's not as funny as the delusion that /smtg/ don't play persona games.
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>>173113785
I WANNA FUSE JACK FROST!
>>
Mudoon
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>>173114705
>resists
>smirks
PSSSSSH
>>
Salvation is near
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>>173115662
Soon we'll all be free from our mortal coils.
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new
>>173116751
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