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MALFORMED EDITION

PREVIOUSLY, ON FOR HONOR: >>172804001


First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
>http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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raider's favorite album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ktGbG4eZQ
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Second for da vikings
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Can anyone tell me the bread and butter combos for Lawbringer, since the new update?

They were my second class choice but I've been playing Shugoki. Just hit rep 5 goki.
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>>172894180
That does not sound like raider.
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>parry light
>go for overhead heavy
>raided just fumbles his axe around then does a exhausted heavy

Why is raider so shit?
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Thanks for the memes guys but this game is dead
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>Enjoying playing with a guy beating my ass
>Haven't played warden in a long while so doing poorly, don't know how to capitalize on shodler bashes or anything
>Say that I'm doing terrible lightheartedly
>He insults me and leaves because I ledged him twice one match
Well I was having fun
Why is this community so salty?
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8 chooses the next hero I main.

Anything but Lawman is fine by me, desu
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>>172894958
You know what you gotta do
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>>172894958
Lawman
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>>172894180
good taste, but how does this represent rider?

Warden's favorite album ;^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z20n9PuEdLo
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>>172894958
looks like you choose for yourself, but if not play Law
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>>172894958
Lawman.
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>>172894378
absolutely no reliable combos as of now
after the update
>shove > light > shove > heavy(feint) > gb
>parry(near a wall) > impale > top heavy > confirm light > shove > light
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>>172895050
>>172895057
>>172895107
>>172895107
>>172895121

/fhg/ is evil, if no one gets an 8 in reply I'm going PK just to spite you all.
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>Get rep 3
>spam crates until out of steel
>lose all interest in playing the character


zero picks my new main.
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>>172895229
PK____
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>>172894958
>>172895246

Warden
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>>172895246
law or ken, your choice
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>>172894958
Peaceklawbringer
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>>172895246
What hero did you get to rep3?

Also, go Shugoki or go home.
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>>172894274
Did Vikings really have nu-male haircuts?
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>>172895440
it's decided
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>playing raider for a while
>go back to Warden
>game is playable again
I'm not going back to shit characters.
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>>172895629
same, Nobushi is fun and all
but when enemies can parry all your attacks the fun stops
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>>172895440

Already have Shugo and Raider to rep 3.

Up to you I guess.
Shugo to rep 6?
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>>172895884
Nah, go berserker then
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After spending a few weeks with this game it's finally convinced me that even Street Fighter 5 is more fun and fulfilling to play.

Bring me back when it's not vortex simulator
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I GIVE MY LIFE
NOT _____________
BUT, FOR YOUUUUU
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>>172895246

Got warlord to rep 4 and Law to rep 3. Every (every) other character is either rep 1 or 2.
No true mains on this ride
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>>172895068
>>172894572
he's sad because he's fucking garbage
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>>172895904

'zerk it is!
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>>172894958
Warlord.
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>>172896230
Good luck my friend

You may wanna practice on feints if you haven't already, or else you're gonna hate life
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>>172894958
Since you 8'd yourself, I'll give something besides lawman.
___Valkyrie___
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>>172895453
>shaved sides is nu-male
whaaa
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>>172896483
Oh yes it is.
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this fuckin sword
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>Get warlord to rep 5
>Duel order
>Would feel bad about using him and use Shugoki instead
Doesn't make sense at all. Any shame I may have had should be long dead by now.
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>>172896579
>shitty gold-leaf blade
Gaudy garbage, almost as bad as the horrid red shit.
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>>172896561
Berserker has it too

I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was a thing for Vikings. Lots of old haircuts fall out of style and have a resurgence later on in popularity.
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>>172896561
I hate shaved sides as much as the next guy, but let's be fair here, it's mostly easily triggered females who have them. Nu-males usually have shitty beards and hipster glasses, not sidecuts. Also usually balding.
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>we've found inconsistencies in your gameplay and your rewards have been forfeited

What do they mean by this? I'm on console by the way.
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>>172897079
afk farming eh?
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>>172896734
its gonna be satisfying to win over "practical" fags like you
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>>172897153
nope just went 6-0 in an elimination match.
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>>172895453
lol no
That's fucking bullshit.
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>>172897198
I take this the same way I would if you dressed up like a pretty pony princess instead of a golden-spike edgelord.

____glhf :)____
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new heroes when?
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>>172896354

Fuck that brah
I've got bear traps for daaaaaaaaaays
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>>172897738
end of faction war, so like a couple weeks
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>>172897893
>Playing meme modes
Do whatever you want then, it doesn't matter if you're good or not.
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>>172895750

What's that last attack?
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>>172898308

I prefer duels to the other modes, but I'm not taking zerk into duels, and if I did it would in no way be a contest of skill.
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>>172898935
zone attack with second half canceled
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>>172898935
Zone with second part cancelled
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12665131
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What's your shitty weakness /fhg/? What easy thing absolutely fucking destroys you?

For me, it's Raider and Law heavies. Almost always flub my parry unless i'm actually focused on the game, which I never am because it's not like winning matters yet.
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>When you keep losing against people but they're really nice and help you learn new characters so you still have a good time.
Having to relearn a game after a break has never been so fun. And I can feel myself slowly reaching where I was before, it's great.

What are some wholesome interactions you've had in this game?
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>>172900118
warden vortex

I just can't into boop on snoot or roll away, I always try to dodge away
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>>172900118
Valk and PK.

I just cant keep up and it never feels fair, regardless of whether i played well.
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>>172900118
Raiders in general, somehow.
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>>172900118

Roach dash-up GB

Gets me every
fucking
last
time

Especially when I know it's coming.
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>>172900202
calling everyone who plays warden a cunt scumbag and getting angry at the game to the point where i have to go take a walk
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>tfw reaction speed is too shit to block zone attacks
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>>172900696
>Your weakness is raiders
>Not fashion
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>>172900696
>light so slow you can react to it while blinded and still fucking parry it

amazing
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>>172894180
That's some good shit, anon. Exactly what I need on a Sunday evening.

-t. Raider main
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>>172900118
Shug's attacks, light or heavy, throw me off so bad. I can't parry them worth shit.
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when is DLC even coming out? i wont buy it, becuase i haven't even been playing, but like, are the new characters going to be broken as shit?
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>>172896065
SNAAAAKEEEE EATERRRRRR
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>>172900982
DLC comes out at the end of the season. It's not a purchase, it's a free update. We don't know how the balance will be. Knowing Ubi, they'll be either broken as shit or unusable.
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>>172901059
>new characters
>jewbisoft
>free
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>>172900118
For some reason I've developed a new weakness to Berserker top heavies. I always try to parry it way too early.
Which sucks cause that thing does like 4 bars of health.
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>>172900118
Warden and Zerk. Warden I can kind of get, but, I'm conditioned to waiting and responding when I see an attack coming, instead of light attacking. Zerks, almost the opposite problem, I can't stop them once they get going.
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>>172901170
It's the Rainbow 6 model my guy. This isn't news.
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>>172900982

Standard Shit-Dev Cycle applies;

1. New character releases
2. New character gets shit on by everyone because they've been playing their buggy, broken messes for months and have every exploit ingrained into muscle memory.
3. People bitch and moan endlessly
4. New character gets over-buffed
5. People gradually figure out all of the new character's buggy, broken exploitative shit and it becomes the new meta FOTM
6. New character eventually gets a couple of pitiful slap-on-the-wrist nerfs just in time for the Next New Character release
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Just wasted this weekend getting my lb from rep 1 to rep 4 because of the buffs soonTM. What armor/axe do you guys think looks the best?
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>>172900761
You don't block zone attacks on reaction, you just always hold the guard in direction where it comes from.
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>>172901605
>roach main
JUST
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>>172901367
>character comes out and it's not SS tier
>not able to compete with people already maining the high tiers for 3 months
>#What the fuck? Why would they release a non functional character?? Buff nao!!
>character comes out and it actually is high tier
>or it just has moves people haven't adapted to yet
>#OP! OP! nerf this broken shit! p2w jews trying to steal our money!
Every. Time.
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>>172902047
>playing an assassin
>guard runs out mid combo
>my opponent just keeps hitting the same spot
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>>172902105
The new character has to start strong to get people to abandon their main.
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>>172902509
I know.
These characters seem all cool and interesting now, but soon you'll learn to hate Warlord and Peacekeeper 2.0
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>PKs regularly beat me with nothing but light spam because I cannot keep up with it
>Rumors that PK is getting a nerf
>Finally they'll be slowed fucking down and I won't have faggots spamming one button beating me
>The nerf doesn't touch her lights at all
Seriously, how fucking incompetent is ubisoft? At this point I wouldn't be surprised to hear one or more of the devs main PK, because this shit is obviously game breaking
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>>172902047
Law, actually. And yes, zone attacks are bullshit and should only be usable when not locked on to anyone.
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>>172902751
Lights are 300 ms
Average human reaction time is 250 ms
It's a stretch but possible

The real issue was zone cancelling
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>>172902047
I feel bad for roach moans
Only top light and zone are any good
If you try to do lights anywhere else you get parried then raider takes out 1/3 of your health.
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Sucks cause thats the best knight helm too.
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>>172902856
It's hard as shit, especially when it costs so little stamina so they can spend the entire match doing nothing but.
She's literally easy mode, she never needs to throw a single heavy to win
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>>172903179
A 50 ms nerf could be in order, force her to feint heavy attacks.
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>>172902856
>Lights are 300 ms
no they aren't, they're like 500ms
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>>172902751
What do you play as? With characters with fast guard times PKs are no problem to block and parry. I feel like slowing down her lights might balance her out for slower guard classes, but make her too easy for fast guard characters. Maybe the solution is less damage.
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>>172902856
Lights are 300ms
Average human reaction time is 250ms
Stance change speed from neutral is 100ms

There is a problem here
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>>172903385
I play a little of everyone, and across all characters I just can't fucking keep up with PK. I'm literally resorting to running away and camping a ledge, because I just cannot stop their light spam. Other characters I have no problem parrying, but she's a nightmare
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>>172903179
>>172903343
>>172903423
Everyone's wrong, it's 400 ms
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>>172903482
Make a custom match against a lvl 3 pk with infinite health. Spend 25 minutes literally just blocking and guard breaking, and it'll click for you. Trust me
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>>172903497
Wait I'm a retard that's the zone attack, it's 500 ms
that seems fair
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>>172903497
No, initial light is 500ms, second in the chain is 400ms

I'm the guy who posted >>172903423 and for some reason I just didn't fucking notice the initial guy fucked the number.

Most everyone involved here has failed in some capacity.
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>>172903561
counter guard breaking*
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>>172903620
I didn't,
t. >>172903343

The only problem I have fighting PK as a Law main is zone and zone flicker, I can parry her first light and sometimes second, but if the player flickers I have to be afraid to go for it.
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>>172903620
Yeah I realized I read the chart wrong when I saw kensei's "light" was 1500 ms
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>>172903865
Do you know how to read charts my friend?
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>>172903942
>1st hit
Every time. Just change it to (2nd hit) or remove it entirely, right now it's just flat out wrong even if the first slash going behind you is irrelevant.
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>>172903942
I made an assumption that light was the first listed
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>>172904160
wtf do those letters mean
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>>172904242
Look in the bottom left of the image you mouthbreathing failed abortion of a retarded mongoloid
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>>172904242
There's a legend right at the bottom of the image
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>>172900118
orochi/warden zone attacks
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>>172894824
fighting games are a nigger-tier genre, hence the nigger-tier community
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>>172861371
depends on who you're playing
as warden i can get an overhead heavy
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>>172895246
raider
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>>172900118
PK's everything, even the first light
warden's vortex and zone (which is unfortunate giving i play him)
orochi's zone
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>>172905497
*given
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>>172894274
Best faction coming through
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>>172894958
Centurion
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>>172905824
>tfw you'll never form blood bonds with fellow legionnaires, bonds you would never form with another person ever, as you brave hordes of germanics through blood, sweat, and tears

Why even fucking live.
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>>172905824
Just beat ryse son of rome, combat got kinda annoying but it was pretty fun, made me super hype for romans.
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>Playing Skirmish
>Crushing the enemy team
>Two people on the enemy team rage quit
>Their shitty PK is replaced by a fucking godly PK bot
>Match lags and everyone is dropped except me and one guy on the enemy team
>My bots contribute almost fucking nothing
>Meanwhile two of his bots have 8 kills and almost no deaths
WHY THE FUCK ARE BOTS NOT EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD? THE ENEMY SHOULD NOT HAVE GREAT BOTS THAT TECH EVERY FUCKING GB AND MINE GET LEDGED IN ONE GB
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>get Silver Material for my Warden
>literally only thought "oh cool only one more rep til black iron"
really overshadowed by the way better alternative only one rep away.
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>Playing Skirmish as my rep 1 Lawbringer
>End up losing
>Rep 6 Roach with full revenge gear goes out of his way to message me after trying to shit talk
Why do people do this? Am I really expected to beat someone with full revenge gear when I have none?
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>>172894958
be the conq

>>172907310
i feel like black iron doesn't suit warden desu, it suits the two bulkier armours but warden looks a little lackluster with it

only way i could see it working is making a dark knight with purples and the merope arms
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Valkyrie is best gril.
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>>172908553
agreed
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>>172908553
I need nobushi in this style, pronto.
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>>172903385
Just make her second light 500ms too.
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>>172902750

Centurion doesnt have a shield
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>>172909604
I fucking hope he does. A cestus makes no sense at all
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>>172909756

A cestus is cool as fuck my dude you historical fags get your pubes in a twist over the dumbest shit.
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>>172909756

anon I....
>>
Did the For Honor community start to stabilize already? Or is it still declining?
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>Order to get a kill streak of 8 in AI skirmish
>Enemy bots always fucking travel in packs
>Friendly bots steal kills all the time
>Enemy bots hang out with captains who GB me constantly in the middle of the fucking fight
>Friendly bots will take health and shields even if I'm fucking dying and they're barely missing any health
Who the fuck makes these orders? Do they purposefully choose the most rage inducing shit they can think of?
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>>172910548

>ubishit games
>maintaining a community
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>>172910928

Siege?
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>>172911018

Well its an FPS
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>>172911018

True, but that's because it's the exceptional dev that actually cares about the game.
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>>172911151
What does that have to do with anything?
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>>172911198

arent they the same devs?
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>>172911369
>seige devs
>working in a completely different engine and code layout
>and still managing to update their game all the time
no anon, they aren't.
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>>172911369
I could've sworn they weren't. but Siege is definitely the exception to the rule as far as Ubisoft games go. Division dropped hard shortly after release, and Wildlands is going through the same motion.
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>>172910303
>>172910534
They're cannibalizing their own design space by having Centurions overlap with Gladiators.
Now our only hope for an boxer-style fighter is Shaolin monks
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>>172911369
>>172911515
same studio, Ubi Montreal, not the same team
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>>172911515

Montreal are arguably ubisofts best team
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>>172896579
That is exactly the same sword I use. Fine taste.
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>>172905824
>best faction
>Italians
LOL
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>>172910534
>Holds sword in left hand
Controls are lefty swapped
Please let this be a thing
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>>172911431

I wouldnt be surprised if For Honor is in the same engine

you do know siege runs on ass creed engine right
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>>172909186
Who is the best warrior and why is it Valkyrie?
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>>172903385
Nah, keep her fast spammy shit.
But either make them do less damage or give her less HP so she actually DOES die to 2 hits like PK-mains thought she did.
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>>172910663
Some of them should not be bothered with.
The killstreak orders are one of them.
The rest are things that would take 10 or more matches to complete.
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>cutting down another roach with a Naruto-themed emblem
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>>172912909

Epic meme dude you also play law bringer man?
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>>172912909
>Tfw literally ran into a Roach on xbox named xItachi Uchihax with the naruto emblem
I can't even tell if these people are serious or being ironic
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>>172913115

>t. xSasukesFuryx
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>>172913161

I saw one that was something like, "sproth94523". Roach, of course.
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>>172913519
If that was a legit meme he was probably 30+, anon.
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How does law do damage to anyone who feints?
>>
Is it just me, or are more and more people quitting round 1 of elimination if their team loses? It feels like people see they're one round down and just give up
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>Beat a Roach as a Lawbringer
>He starts whining about how me GBing him when he dashes and parrying his attacks is cheap
I just fucking love how people who can't counter GB whine about Laws infinite GB side heavy chain and call it spam
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>>172914221

Cool story bro
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I would love to see this from his perspective
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What did he mean by this?
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>>172912145
>Romans
>Italians
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>>172914435
>being kicked from halo 3 for friendly fire
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>>172914850
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>>172914701
hard feint is pressing the feint button to stop a heavy. Soft feint is stopping a heavy with another attack, like how raider can soft feint a heavy into the top light stun move
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>>172914850
hmm....
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>>172915085
I'm not sure that would be considered a "soft feint" though, as that's a part of the Raiders moveset. I was under the impression soft feinting was abusing attack indicator bugs.
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>>172914850
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>tfw you think flails are dank as fuck but you want to have fun when you play
>feels bad my dudes
I want to play conq, but I don't want to be cancer and get free wins.
>>
>Elimination is my favorite mode
>Almost always end up carrying my team
At a certain point this shit stops being fun and feels like a fucking chore. I'm sick of having teammates who can't carry their own weight
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>>172915518
Nope. Soft feints are part of your move set
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>>172916426
>mfw people call it abusing
its in the game for a reason you fuck heads. or everyone would jsut turtle
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>>172916595
Yup clear case of a guy that just needs to get good
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How the fuck do you deal with turtling as a Lawbringer?
>Facing a Kensei in elimination
>He's blocking/parrying any attack I throw
>Countering every GB
>Only threw out two attacks and stopped after he saw I could parry
>Kept doing this until his team showed up to help
Seriously, how is a Lawbringer supposed to stop a turtle?
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>>172910663
I love that order it's a fucking joke how easy it is. Only have to be takedowns i.e. kill assists still count, just stick with the group. Most AI skirm games I end up 14-0 or there abouts. Even the same order isn't so bad in PVP only takes me 2-3 rounds if that to work it out.
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>>172916968
Top-lights & shoves.
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>>172916595
I mean there are some exploit soft feints like gb feint and flicker.
stuff like nobu feinting lights with hidden stance, zerker feinting lights be dodging, and raider's heavy to top stun are intended.

People just get angry at dumb things. like a conq I played who called me bad for feinting heavies to bait a parry attempt.
here is the video, plz like favorite and subscribe :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOofyPM6ihg
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>>172911520
Not a problem for me. We all know the inevitable gladiator hero will surely have a trident if not a trident and net.

Historically accurate or not I'd much rather have a unique range of weapons than faction variants of the same things. To that end I'm happy to see the Centurion be sword and fist rather than a warlord skin.
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>>172916968
boop on snoot, shove, being more passive than him

I know that third option is not fun and probably the hardest to do, but If they want passive, give them passive
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>>172916968
shove them to death
when they figure out how to dodge shove, GB after your dash instead and it'll catch them
when they figure out how to not get caught, i dunno what to do then
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>>172917042
>>172917190
I was shoving and trying top lights, but he was blocking everything after a shove as well. The turtle meta is just too fucking strong unless you're playing someone like Warlord or Warden
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>tfw you broke your small finger in blind rage
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>>172917050
where's your AD MORTEMs???
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>>172917190
Do emotes count as 'passive'?
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>>172916985
Kill streak, meaning you have to actually get the kill or it won't count.
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>>172917459
Try unlock-runup-grab, then unlock-runup-stab.
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>>172917632
I'll give it a go next time and see how it turns out
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>>172917534
here https://webmshare.com/play/EgW6x
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>>172917730
i like lawbringer but i find him painful to play currently, is it bandwagony if i give him a go after his buff as well? i have him to prestige one but he's agonising

and people complain too much about my current char which spoils the wins i get
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>>172917836
He won't be much better, just strengthening his punishes. you should be fine
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>>172917946
like, not having an unblockable approach option is legitimately painful

at least vs turtles i can bash them or something, but lb gets fuckall
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>>172917534
>>172917730
How do you land this? I try it after a parry and it always gets dodged/parried
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>>172917459
Good thing for you, one of Lawbringer's buffs will be his post-shove light getting sped up to the speed of your neutral top light boop, regardless of angle. It's not guaranteed, but it'll be a lot faster.
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>>172917836
>giving a shit about bandwagoning
As much as we give people shit for it, there's no reason to feel ashamed.
It's a game, & class-loyalty is pointless anti-fun.
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>>172918025
Can't wait. Law is definitely fun, but it's one uphill fucking battle against decent players
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>>172918013
it's only guaranteed after parrying a light, If you parry a heavy either GB when they are in range or light attack slap when not in range (other laws, nobushi, goki, and I think valk)
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>>172917946
>>172918008
Again, Lawbringer is not an offensive character. His schtick is being the parry king: he gets all his good shit off parries. If you gave him good openers on top of his parry game, you'd be calling him super cancer right quick.
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>Main a character
>Can't win the mirror match
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>>172918053
im loyal to the classes i enjoy desu

>>172918160
he gets stuff off of parries but ad mortem is 45 damage, that's not very impressive at all
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>>172918160
yeah but currently the only things he has on parry are light taps, grabs, or the thrust
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>Que up a 1v1
>lose 2-3
>opponent leaves
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING STAY FOR A REMATCH JUST ONE YOU FUCKING PLEBS I DO IT ALL THE TIME FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172918372
45 damage and a stun.

>>172918413
Good thing ALL his parry follow-ups are getting buffed, eh? Practically all his follow-ups will be guaranteed post-patch.
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>>172918517
Everything except AD MORTEM, but that's, y'know, AD MORTEM.
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>>172918514
>obligated to stay for a rematch
>fighting the same person for 6-10 consecutive rounds
What a fucking snorefest.
This is why 2s is better for dueling.
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>>172918665
>6-10 rounds
I JUST WANT ONE REEEEEEE
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>>172918665
If I beat someone and they stay, I switch character and so on. If I lose and they stay, provided I didn't get salty and leave myself, I try to fix whatever mistakes I made and win.
Fighting someone for 2-3 matches can be a fun game of "who can adapt better" I love it.
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>>172918517
warden gets 40 damage, raider gets 45 if its a top light he parries, orochi gets like, 35 or something, nobushi gets a ton with even more if you're bleeding lol

and stuns dont matter to anybody who knows the game because they know the anims lol
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as much as I like this game
I want it to failed and die for some reason
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>>172919634
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This warden just had a meltdown after a poked him into his shoulder animation a couple of times. Is he actually mad that there is a way to make him fuck off with his gambling shit?
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>>172920175
the worst kind of player

i wish these people would fuck off of MY character
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What the fuck do i do with conq in a duel?

People just keep dodging everything he does.
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>>172915464
>>172915606
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>>172920349
light attack
light attack
light attack
heavy > all block > bash > light
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>just played a warlord who did NOTHING
>literally NOTHING
>except forward dodge into headbutt into guaranteed poke
>couldn't do shit about it because I was law and I couldn't react fast enough and the first two headbutts trapped me against a wall

holy fuck I cannot wait for this balance patch
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>>172921150
I can't stand WL headbutt spamming, because there are more interesting ways to play him than abusing it. I find I win more fights as him if I don't use it often and only throw it out if my opponent is being passive.
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>>172921150
if he did nothing but headbutt spam you can just top light.
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>>172921847
>t. warden
must be nice
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>>172921847
You can also dodge to the side and get a free GB.
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>>172922108
but he said he is LB
so side step grab will turn in shove
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>>172922463
Can you not simply delay pressing GB for a spit second to do a guardbreak? I know it's possible with Warlord instead of a headbutt.
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>bunch of Kenseis now starting to dashblock untechable grab you now
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>fighting a warden as LB
>he does nothing but shoulder bash initiations
>lose (obviously)
>go warden next game, want to test my mettle
>he went raider
>ended up losing still
>feel an overwhelming sense that i was disappointing

don't "gl man" ME I WANTED TO WIN AND PROVE I'M CAPABLE OF IT
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does anyone know when the patch comes out?
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>>172920175
>YOU ARE COUNTERING ME
>STOP IT STOP IT STOOOOP
>STOP GUESSING CORRECTLY, YOU SHOULD ROLL AWAY WHEN I CHARGE
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>>172923387
>babby's OP crutch is being countered

I love salt like this. Just when I parry a PK's zone and they bitch that I could predict it.
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>>172923348
Unknown. All we know is that the patch is in QA right now.
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>>172922769
>Playing Kensei
>Try to do this
>Nobody ever attacks me without knocking or stunning me first
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>>172920429
I don't get it. Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>172923663
so far it only work with those who do those top light high speed poke

so I guess it only work on LB, other Kensei ,Roach who doesnt spam Zone, and warden who doesnt spam Zone/Charge
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>>172925217
So it works on Kensei and LB?
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>>172925217
>Roach who doesnt spam Zone, and warden who doesnt spam Zone/Charge
Where is this mystical land and how do i get there?
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wow plebbit sure gave up quick on the "black day"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t09L2Lf_Fc
>too many disconnections
they actually noticed
>they are mobilizing a team
>implying that ubisoft is actually doing something
>removed maps were removed not because of balance but because of increase in disconnects on these particular maps
>guy interviewed from ubisoft sounds like he barely speaks english
>single picks in 4v4
>revenge gain is getting nerfed, a lot
>zone attack is now a light instead of a heavy
>ubisoft is paying attention to the subpleddit
>boosts are modified so PK and Shugokis shitters stop grabbing damage to immediately smash everything
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>>172927626
Fuck I've been gone for a week and a shit ton of changes happened.

Are samurai still killing everyone? I can't exactly get in-game right now.
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>>172924668
I think his point is that ethnically the people of the Italian peninsula are/were not the same people as the romans, the biggest argument in favor of this is the fall of the western empire and the sacking and subsequent settling of rome/italy by the visigoths(or ostrogoths not sure which).

t. /twg/ lurker
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>>172927626
DAUBENY!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VumE84dxOFE
>boycott
>implying anyone is going to do it, much less ubisoft going to listen
All I see are free territories.
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>tfw people are gonna bandwagon LB after he gets buffed after you toiled through the trenches getting gud at parries

gonna be some ethnic cleansing, oni-chan
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>>172928381
dont worry, it will only be for a couple of weeks, then they'll leave for ninja and memerion
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>>172928017
Going to correct my self here, after the fall of Rome it goes ostrogoths who war with the byzantine empire, then lombards come in and get their asses kicked to the southern italy by Charlemagne after which the normans come up from sicily and clear out what's left.
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>3k players
just slightly less than usual, a few people havent noticed the boycott was cancelled
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Warden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HyYB_uJaw

Conqueror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRQ6thP8D0w

Peacekeeper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

Lawbringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlro4tkQ82Q


Raider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KbmRTgigQ

Warlord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scPMlQLK7yM

Berserker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdY7NMWhLc

Valkyrie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOYlgvI1uE


Kensei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oMoczT9At0

Shugouki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1yMJxwnDU0

Orochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY

Nobushi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWJQQiZYcUA

I don't listen to much Folk Metal so I had no idea what to put for Berserker and Valkyrie without just being a fuck ton more Amon Amarth and that seemed too easy
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>crushing counterstrike an orochi
>he parries it

WHAT
i've played every beta since tech test 2 and this has never happened
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>>172903423
>>172903497
>>172903605
>>172903620
OKay, great! Now cut that shit in half, except for the reaction time, because some people are on console.
>tfw your brain can not process the information fast enough to counter because it is occurring in less frames and appears to hit before the marker flashes
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>>172924668
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I want to remind everyone that parries ignore guard switch penalties
no matter how many times have you switched guard or how slow it is, or if it is active
you can parry any attack, parries have 100ms delay and ignore the guard
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>>172927626
>ubisoft is paying attention to the subpleddit
To be fair, most of LB changes that got in have been proposed here
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>>172929324
I'm on console and cannot keep up with PKs no matter how hard I try. I'm basically guessing where they will throw their lights, but for the most part I'm just running to a ledge to try cheesing them since I can't actually fight them
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>>172894958

need more conqs
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>>172931446
delete this

but also rolling for this for the memez
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>shugoki vs warden
>starts spamming vortex out of the gate
>tactical roll away and start oni charging that ass
>gets super pissy at me for "abusing such a cheap move"
Warden mains are truly the ignorant scum of this earth.
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>>172928680
Even chivalry, whos devs have official abandoned the game years ago. Has a higher player base.
Doesn't look too good to me.
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>>172932216
>battle of the 50/50
>one knows how to get out
>the other doesn't
truly ebin
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>>172932451
Can't bitch about something when you do the exact same thing. Should've read up on the counter bruh.
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Did we get our crates yet
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>>172932706
i think shug's is worse desu
if you fail it once you lose half your hp, at least you only take about 20 damage with warden's
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>>172932980
>if you fail it once you lose half your hp
You mean one bar if your not near a wall and get gb'd?
Not to speak of it actually having two counters, one of which gets you a punish on shugo.
Warden's counter only puts you neutral at best.
A succesfull charge will also put you face to face with your opponent after the heavy, having to get out to do it again. Warden can just spam that shit with barely any stamina cost.
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>>172932951
no
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>>172932951
Everyone got 3 crates via the event.
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>>172933157
no
why does shugi reach top places when warden does not
if shugi is so easily countered and warden has literally no counters?
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>>172933337
>when warden does not
Since fucking when?
Last time I saw a tournament it was nothing but wardens.
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>>172933157
>warden's doesnt have a punish
light attack, shugo's works im pretty sure
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>>172933421
literally none make it to top 8
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>>172933514
Orly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvBLCQu7C6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhJ5mdhIDDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOgxEFEkZBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feuVBqkWEbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47G2mqxTXwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTWDtHdnVsk
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>>172933657
it's the same GUY who plays nothing but warden that doesn't mean warden consistently makes it to top 8 with more than just him
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>>172933657
>pool finals
you don't know what that is do you?
>2v2
>one guy
rly makes me think
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>>172933880
>>172933736
So, where are all the shugoki top 8?
Having a hard time finding any result or vids with him in it.
Tons of wardens tho.
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>>172933973
"tons of wardens"
last few tournament finals were PK v shugi
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>>172933973
idk i dont follow tournaments, im not the original anon i just think your point was stupid because all the vids were the same person
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>>172931307
There's no way to combat them on console. Their lights and zone attacks register as hits before the party marker flashes and the zone attack registers as a hit before the red hit indicator even comes up. I just hope there's a kensei around who dodge hits them. Kensei's range is the only thing that can realistically fight PK, aside from another PK. But those light attacks though, fucking unbelievable. People complain on PC, but they don't knew fear until you cut their frames in half and there literally aren't enough frames to react.
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>>172900202
Iktbf

My computer broke for a bit over two weeks about a week after launch

Now im better than i was even after all those betas
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Valkyrie is so fucking cancer
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>>172900202

>People defeating you but being nice
This upsets me so much more than people just being assholes.
And my anger makes me STRONGER.
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Testing GB feint, I have a strat and with practice I could make it more consistent. This 8 successes and 6 fails is with no practice.

There are people saying it only works 50% of the time, but with my strat and high frame rate I can get it easy enough.

Ubi needs to fix their shit
https://youtu.be/rJ5sLur_4cI
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>>172934692
I'm a console lawman that parries a memekeepers first light attacks nearly every single time.

Should I be proud of this, or is it mediocre?
>>
Should I wait for the balance patch or should I just upgrade my Warden to 108

I doubt people will build any different right?
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>>172936049
what do?
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>>172900202

i always try to be nice and pleasant to my opponents

as a conq main it usually doesnt work out that way tho
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>>172936302
top secret information, anon
gb>change guard>attack, my strat is hitting gb and moving my mouse up at the same time and then instantly attacking while continuing to move my mouse up. don't know why but it helps
>>
>Stop playing after round 1
>Got main to rep 3
>Friends quit as well
>Go from wanting to play on my controller to KB+M until controller customizing comes in
>Get told faction isn't winning anymore
>Kinda want to play again
>Sort of want to go from Nobu to Raider if I come back
>Every time I start playing I can only stand playing for one game before closing it
Fucking hell.
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>>172915518
You can actually soft feint anything, but its hard af
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>>172936580
thanks
i've bound both GB AND guard left to K and it seems to be working more then using mouse to move my guard
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>>172894958
comin in late for a lawbringer please
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>>172936049
https://my.mixtape.moe/sdrkfd.webm

it works with almost every single attack
shit needs fixing, you can flash indicators while doing normal attacks without knowing it
earlier i had a warlord flash gb into headbutt
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>>172937702
hmm, I guess that's the secret, literally GBing and changing guard at the same time.

Use it with warden side light or orochi top light for 2 free hits, 10/10
>>
Is this the first ever video game boycott?
I've never heard about a game community so shafted that they actually boycotted the game usually people just quit and lick their wounded wallets
but to actually boycott a game that already made millions and will be abandoned in a couple of months I mean why bother?
>>
>>172938026
have to press attack atleast <100ms after k but its very doable once you get the muscle memory for it
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>>172938219
There is no boycott. The low player count it has today is actually normal and the same as last week.
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>>172938219
but the thing is the game CAN be fun and it is a good game but they just need to rebalance some classes and reduce spam
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>>172894042
PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME IS THE LAG FIXED

I HATE BUYING GAMES AND I LOVED THE IDEA OF FOR HONOR JUST TELL ME ARE YOU ALL FANBOYS WHO PLAY THROUGH THE LAG
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>>172939160
you can't "fix" lag and packet loss, you can only hope you get matched with someone in your continent
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>>172939160

play 1v1 only. and 2v2 is sometimes okay

4v4 is a shitfest
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>>172939260
>>172939295
should i get the most expensive all dlc pack thingy? or is vanilla fine for now ill spend it easy if you think its worth it
>>
DLC heros will cost in game steel which you get for doing "missions" and matchs

but they're most likely be priced very high
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>>172933241
>weebs will never get their Round 3 crates
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>tfw doing the ritual feint dance and he just fast attacks you
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>>172939385
vanilla and save your steel for dlc characters.
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>>172939585
>Desu Vault niggers will never be above us
Worth it
>>
so when are we getting the balance patch?
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>>172940301
Never, it was a prank. Please buy The Division.
>>
>>172940301
what are they gona balance even?
>>
>>172939385
DLC is free, you need steel to unlock characters, but you don't need to unlock characters to play them it's only so you can customize their gear. You'll get plenty of steel over time without spending money so you don't need to buy it
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>>172940301
>last stream over talked about warlord, law, pk
>zerk,and raider maybe in next stream
>4 days away
patch drops on the end of S1

SCREENCAP THIS
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>>172940138
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>>172921427
This.

As a Kensei main, playing Warlord as an aggressive feint machine is super fun.
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>>172940301
>tfw forgot to screencap a post
>it said "PK will be nerfed in a way that will buff her"
>her deflect is getting buffed and everything else practically unchanged
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>>172928381
At least they'll be getting on the LB meme train and not Kensei.

Kensei is still pure.
>>
>>172941115
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/172180052/#172216849
>tfw
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>>172921150

Lolwhat
If you know it's coming then you should be able to do something about it. LB's top light is fast enough to hit him before his headbutt connects.
When I spam it too much against high level players I usually get my shit kicked in. Two times in a row is the most I do, third time I do GB instead. If they don't fall for the meme then I don't try it at all anymore.
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>>172896483
>>172896561
>>172897062
>>172895453
It's funny, during my conscription a couple of years ago, side shaved with slick back top hair was the NCO style. I thought it was funny at the time since the haircut was decently popular back in the interwar period, when Europe was also in economical and political turmoil. This was when people were super hype about war with Russia over either Syria or Ukraine.
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>>172941115
are they at least going to fix her zone attack?
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>>172942118
they are doing something to it, don't remember what though
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>>172942118
depends on how far they want to go
it will be either
>no dashback after blocking the first hit
or
>gb after blocking the 1st hit
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>>172942283
I like the second option, it's fast enough that when used right it will be hard to block and people who block it should be rewarded, like warden zone
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>>172928591
Wait, so the (core of the empire) Romans were proto-slavs?
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kensei is my favourite character but nobody is ever online
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>>172936049
If you'll do this shit in duels dont be suprised that people will just quit matches against you.
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>>172939260
I would rather queue for up to 10 minutes than play a game with someone over an ocean.
Honestly in a tight, fast reaction game like this if my signal has to bounce off more than one satellite I don't want to play.
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>>172943324
>implying
even If I did use it in matches and people quit, I would still get the win and kills so I don't care
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>>172943676
Im just saying.
There is no fun to play against glitches. That shit should be bannable.
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>>172927626
>zone attack is now a light instead of a heavy

That was PK-specific as far as I understood.
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>>172944026
>There is no fun to play against glitches
like the flicker? cause they seem to have no problem using it
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>>172942118
>>172942272
>>172942283
It'll now have the on-block properties of a light attack (she gets staggered when you block it) and they said the're making the wind up longer/more noticeable.
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>>172900118
Warden vortex and PK light spam
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>>172945620
thats good
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>>172944875
That is a PK-specific nerf they mentioned. Her zone attack now counts as a light, and although the speed of the attack is not changed, it's more telegraphed than before.
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>>172944875
nah, all zones are considered as heavy attacks, some even long range
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>>172894958
Warlord, get your reps in before the nerfs.
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>>172944927
Zone flicker its much lesser evil than gb-cancels, unlock glitches, light cancels.
People can flick zones accidentally because of how indicator works, same with the assassins stamina-bug, but the rest of this shit can be done only on purpose and that is cancerous as fuck.
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>>172945870
he was doing it wrong
he should have done headbutt>jumping heavy>insta headbutt
repeat
valk has something similar
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>Try out Shugoki in Dominion just holding a point
>All gimmicks but fun as hell
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>>172942895
Ask >>>/his/ or /twg/
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>>172945620
These are the known changes coming to Peacekeeper:
>Zone attack: now counts as a light (blocking will stagger her), and it will be more telegraphed, despite the speed of the actual attack being unchanged
>Sidedash attack: will do less damage, will be more punishable on block (reason: this attack was a disproportionately large source of PK's damage)
>Deflect stab will be buffed, presumably with more damage (reason: no one was using this move, so they're buffing it to make it a more attractive option)
As an addendum, Ubisoft said they will take a closer look at her LL chain.
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>guard break at the same exact time
>enemy gets it
>can't CGB
>happens 3 times in a duel
>every round lost off that
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they fixed it!!!!
This game is literally trash
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>>172945870
Noob lol
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>>172946406
They did though, but lag is a bitch.
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>>172946392
Before anyone complains about "lel who gets hit by that sidedash stab":

>I have no idea who the fuck couldn't keep up with her dash attacks though.
Anyone who takes a swing at Peacekeeper. Peacekeepers will instinctively sidedash-stab instead of parry or deflect or whatever. This is for several reasons.
>Dodges the attack, so they don't have to worry about parry timing or whatever
>Gets a chunky stab
>Can immediately do the bleed followup for even more damage
>Counts as a heavy, so it can trigger executions
Peacekeepers never need to learn how to parry, because lel dash-stab.
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>>172946773
Only low level get hit by the dash stab.
And is really easy to parry.
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Damn it Valk is fun to play
Because I know how fucking annoying I am to them, I felt it often enough
I have to share my suffering and take it out on others now
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>>172947190
You are a textbook bully, anon. Stop that.
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>>172946392
Those were the buffs I proposed like a month ago lol
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>>172947052
Or you get hit because you're in the middle of your attack
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>>172947052
I don't think you understand that if you attack and they dodge attack you, there is nothing you can do to evade it. Yeah, if they try to do it from neutral like a retard then it's a free parry, but an intelligent being wont do that
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>>172935598
What makes you think so?
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>>172918932
Most people fail to CGB after a stun. Animation is much less telegraphed, people rely on the big fat indicator.
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**ATTENTION PS4BROS**
There is now an official PS4 Community!
If you would like to join, search
For Honor General
or
Message/add TheSteroid386 and I will invite you.
1v1 tourney soon!!!
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>>172935598
fufufu if your butt hurts so much, why do you keep hitting the ground with it senpai?
Surely that doesn't make it feel better?
Here, grab my spear, I'll help you u-- oh and there you go again! Senpai is so silly!
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>>172900202
Point out exactly what their patterns are.
Nothing more wholesome than helping them fight better mid-game.
>>
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>>172948536
>TF2 scout
at least change the edit to look like shugoki
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>>172947949

The baa shit posting stopped

End this now
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>>172946773
Deflect is retarded
What kind of spastic though that giving assassins the ability to capitalise off every single type of dash was a good idea
They dont even need to recognise what attack is coming at them, they just dash randomly and use their fuckhuge distance covered and fuckhuge invulnerability frames to stab you in the cock
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>>172943657
>Boongs
>Owning computers
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>>172949376

If it worked
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BALANCE PATCH FUCKING WHEN
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>>172949331
The fuck you on about m8?
Him and metalkid are the heroes we need.
Begone with your heresy!
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>>172949561
"When we are done testing it"
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>>172949376
t warden
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>>172949561
RIGHT FUCKING NOW GO GO GO
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>>172950000
KEK PLZ DON'T LIE WITH QUAD ZEROS
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>>172950000
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>>172948350
o-only because you made me!

I-I hate you!
<3
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>>172950083
>tfw you get quads with a big fat lie
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>>172945936
Fuck all of them, lesser criminals are criminals still.
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Valk w/o some form of Baa horns looks completely wrong to me.
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>>172949376
You have to dodge INTO the attack with tighter-than-parry timing in order to deflect the attack and use your deflect-specific attack(s). If you fuck up the timing, you're taking a blow to the head. And deflecting an attack by itself doesn't actually stop the enemy from continuing to attack.
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>>172945936
All ubi needs to do is make all the zones mirror-able and force them to resolve from the same side the first input comes from. How hard would that be?
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>>172950696
Berserker
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>>172950696
zerker gets a free gb, i'd say it counts as
> actually stop the enemy from continuing to attack.
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>>172950696
>>172950902
all I know is that deflects are silly
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Did they fix the unparryable unblockables glitch yet?
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https://my.mixtape.moe/khgkkz.webm

pk mains everyone
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>>172951306
t. Warlord desu
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>>172951206
they didnt fix SHIT
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>>172951306
>wtf i pressed light attack multiple times and he didnt die broken warlord
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>>172951794
I thought they did because I hadn't seen it for a while, but then there was a shugoki pushing my shit in with it yesterday and I wasn't sure if I was just fucking up the timing or not.
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>>172951306

>t.
Does anyone even use that shit outside of 4chan?
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>>172952057
it has something to do with unlocking so if he unlocked while charging it up he was doing it. I don't know if there would be a visual change to tell if he unlocked, but yeah
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>>172952212
redditors
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>>172951306
>t.pk
>stfu

chuckled
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>>172952303
t. redditor
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We getting anymore leaks?
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>>172952795
>leaks
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>>172952795
The game is constantly leaking players, does that count?
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>>172952795
That Viking ship is in the dry dock, so we can't really tell
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Why did no one tell me how fun Shugoki was

I feel like a scumbag though
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>>172952212
First time i saw it on Krautchan.
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>>172950696
Valk's deflect has inbuild block in it, so she does stop the chains.
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>>172954948
which is fucking dead
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>>172949564
But metaldad hasn't posted yet. :(
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>Go to twitch for shits and giggles
>top x% <insert your main here>
>Plays like shit
Every time
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fun game
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>>172956030
>usually watch streaming, would prefer to play myself
>Make an exception to see if i can learn anything new
>Search for my main to see if theres any free stuff im missing or how people counter the shit i hate.
>top 1% 100ish viewers this looks good
>He isnt even optimal in the slightest, guardbreaking and side heavying after light parries.
>Blocks wardens zone, doesnt even do anything.
>Dies to an orochi storm rush from neutral

fhtracker was a mistake.
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>>172956821
Same shit for me man, only reason I go there when I don't feel like playing.
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>>172894958
Warden
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>>172894958
SWORD
DAD
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fighting warden as not top hero is cancer
he can break your turtle and you cannot break his
that's why defense needs a huge nerf
>parries are too strong
>blocking is too strong
>dodges are too strong
>exhausted state is not punishable

webm unrelated
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When you fight a valk and can consistently dodge/punish the leg sweep.

I love knowing that you fucked up some shitters standby combo. Any decent valk player knows if it doesn't work once it ain't gonna work and switch tactics.
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>>172951206
For the Shugoki yeah, but the Raider can still do it.
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>>172957920
Making exhausted state more punishable would make people LESS likely to be offensive, for the most part.
I'll agree that the defensive tools are probably too strong, but I'm mostly interested in seeing them nerfed on the characters with strong openers and offensive tools.
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>>172958493
warlord nerf is happening and prob will be enough

conq nerf later

pk will prob need more nerfs after this one

warden needs his lvl3 charge nerfed to not give free top heavy without a wall throw and remove the gb cancel after charging it and maybe increase the time when hyper armor activates

also stam increase on all unblockables/unparryables
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>>172951306
How do you throw diagonally on PC?
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Wow someone actually went through the entire game playing "honorably." What a faggot.

>won't 2v1 anyone
>won't revive
>gets ganked by the enemy team
>does the same thing the next 2 rounds
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>>172958712
>lvl3
There's only two distinct bash types, right? Regular and fully-charged?
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>>172958750
hold A or D and press gb again
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>>172958938
That throws to the side, not diagonally.
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>>172959060
hold W too
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>>172958712
Conq is getting a small, as-yet-unspecified nerf this patch.
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>>172958712
>warden needs his lvl3 charge nerfed
Nah, he needs a tighter "cancel for gb" timing or maybe even remove that double-tap cancel for immediate gb and instead of that they should cancel it by feint button and tap gb manually after.
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>>172957920
>>exhausted state is not punishable
Perhaps you wouldn't have this problem if you switched to a more balanced hero.
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>>172959670
>they should cancel it by feint button and tap gb manually after

Changing something to be functionally the same but simply more annoying to input is not good game design. This would change nothing for the Warden's opponent, just make the Warden feel more clunky to play.
>>
>an error occured returning to main menu
>an error occured returning to main menu
>an error occured returning to main menu
>found game missing (5) players
>found game missing (5) players
>found game missing (5) players
Games dead lads, atleast on xbox.
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>>172960426
>playing on the worst of the current gen hunks of shit
>not enough other people fell for the meme
what a surprise
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>>172959789
>Enemy is exhausted
>They backdash all day until they get their stamina back
It's most egregious on assassins.
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>>172960915
>press sprint
>run up
>GB them while they try to dodge away
that was hard
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>>172961163
>see opponent unlock and sprint
>stop backdashing
>tech the GB and backdash away before they can try for another
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>>172961163
>implying anyone with a brain will backdash when they see you sprint
you need to get better
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>>172961252
>>172961291
works on my rig :^)

Don't know why me being able to punish the enemy and you not being able to makes me bad
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>>172961576
Your example objectively relies on the enemy being bad. This doesn't mean exhaustion is reliably punishable because balance discussion regarding bad opponents is useless.
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i want to gas valkyrie cause she is gross.
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>>172961576
winning and punishing bad players does not make you good
;^)
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>>172961642
any character with a bash or an unblockable can punish someone out of stamina or at least keep them out of stamina. The only characters without those two things are assassins who can dash after the enemy and do super meme tier slip n' slide GBs and Nobushi, because fuck nobushi I guess.

So either you can't use your kit well or you're a nobu main.
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>>172962097
not true
anyone can backdash
>avoid bash/tech gb attempt and backdash more
in short not punishable
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>>172961663
She is the most attractive female in the game you gaylord.
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>>172962325
you misspelled Nobushi
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>>172962474
Nobushi is a wrinkly grandma.
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>>172962303
well I'm sorry that you want things to be handed to you. I would tell you to go play CoD, but you might get mad that enemies can go into cover while reloading
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>>172962530
Only if you use shit helmets. Also, Momiji is definitely not beyond her twenties, as an example.
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>>172962530
you take that back
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>>172962648
>It works at my wood league matchmaking against people who bought the game today! That means it's balanced!
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>>172962648
nice argument there mate
surely got me good ;^)
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>>172962772
>balanced
it's not imbalanced, if you can't punish it nothing happens, big woop
>>
anyone know how to range ban Russian and turkish ip's?

im sick of them laggy fucks
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>>172948350
learning to dodge their knockdown crutch makes killing valks so easy
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>>172962910
And that's a problem. Why even have an exhaustion mechanic in place if nothing happens when you're exhausted?

This comes back to something Ubisoft devs have admitted is unbalanced - defensive gameplay is too strong right now, you can't open up a defensive player reliably.

If the devs admit it's fucked, then you don't have to keep defending it, shill.
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>>172962530
I wanna shove my Raider tree trunk cock into Nobushi or PK desu
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>>172962841
>>172963098

Ok, think of a way to make it punishable, and then tell me why you want people to never do anything ever, even more than they already do, because they are afraid of running out of stamina

It wouldn't prevent defensive play, it would encourage it
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>>172963067
Knockdown crutch?

What the sweep?
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>>172962696
Are we talking ENG Momiji or JPN Momiji? Those are two very different characters.
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What game mode do I play if I actually want to have team fights? I thought I queued up for 4v4s earlier in elims, but my teammates were nice enough to correct my mistake and let me know that that is a actually another 1v1 mode and that if you attack someone already in a fight or expect your teammates to help you when you are fighting someone with three buffs that makes you a dick.
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>>172963336
Skirmish I guess.
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>>172963336
I guess skirmish and dominion. both are garbage though, because 4v4 is garbage. you don't want team fights, anon, you want fun. go get a buddy and play brawl
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>>172963317
Does anyone have the "I don't speak Japanese" scene recorded with the JPN voice acting?
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>>172963674
There's a bunch of Japanese campaign walkthroughs.
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>>172963812
I legitimately have no idea how I'd find videos of that without typing moonrunes into youtube.
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>>172963336
Just play elimination, you'll get ganes like what you've experienced, but there will also be games where people don't care. Honorfags will cry but when it comes down to it its 4v4 so fuck em. There's no rule. Ill play with "honor" of everyone else does but otherwise fuck it. Then when Honorfags cry I usually tell them honor kills the game mode and devs never meant it to be all about 1v1s. So fuck em anon play whatever you want to play
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>>172963336
Team fighting doesnt exist until they fix revenge, 1v2's is in favor of the single guy because of how stupid revenge is in gear modes
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>>172963494
>I dictate what fun is
Nobody cares about your fromsoft tier duel garbage my man
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>>172962474

female conq or raider.

youre both absolute plebs
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>>172963923
Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Bitching on here is just a way of venting built up salt.
I've just had a lot of shithead teammates lately.
Yesterday I was playing a game where I got double teamed shortly into the round. I managed to kill one of them but the other was sitting with a full overshield while I had one bar of health left. I had two teammates that ran up at that point and proceeded to just fucking watch. The person I was fighting killed me and resed their downed teammate and then they proceeded to kill my two teammates that just fucking watched.
The best part is that my teammates then bitched about the guy I was fighting resing his teammate.
>>
>Just realized ALL my most played characters have a headbutt
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>>172964349
Female raider is too flat though, she'll only be a contender once they buff her bust.
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>>172963853
https://youtu.be/EWcaXBT_MM8?t=13m35s
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>>172963162
why is it my job to come up with an argument for you?
you still haven't provided one
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>>172964365
I've found that if you announce in chat during loading that you have no intention of playing with honor that generally the other team will take that as blanket premission to ignore honor, and then your team will usually follow suit.
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>valk hits me
>does it from same spot
>move guard right still get hit
>block her light
>she dashes and light me

DID THEY PLAYTEST THIS SHIT ALL?
VALKS LIGHTS LITERALLY BREAK THE MECHANICS OF THE GAME
>>
>its only ok if I gank
>if you gank me your a pussy

how do these people rationalize this?
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>>172961663
Her neck is thicker than John Cena's, Nobushi is the hottest in the game for sure
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>>172963224
Yeah, it's baby easy to dodge. If you know the combos that lead into it you know exactly when to dodge, and can get a free GB on the Valk which any hero can use to abuse them.
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>>172963317
I think that her English personality and voice are canon, while her Japanese during combat is just generic Nobushi. If you mean a Japanese dub, then I don't know.
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>Facing some guy in duels at 4AM
>He's playing Raider, I am switching between Kensei and LB
>He says Raider's not his main when I give him some advice
>He switches to his main
>It's fucking PK
>I picked my level 5 Orochi by sheer chance
>He beats me first round without me getting a single hit in
>He says ":)"
>It's fucking on
>Beat him, hard, as the vastly inferior character
>Point out the absurdity of PK's light spam as I kill him on the last round
>He quits without saying another thing

These people truly are worse than Hitler. I guarantee you this guy was ONLY playing Raider because that one guy won a tournament with him.
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>>172966025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08JGK9Ry98w

That's because the voice of JPN Momiji IS the generic Nobushi.
>>
>try to move guard and parry
>blocks instead didn't even register heavy input.

AAAAAH FUCKKKKK IM ACTUALLY LOSING TO FUCKING OROCHIS BECAUSE OF THIS SHIT.
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>>172966196
rep 5 orochi huh

yeah they definitely need to be gassedx we should just throw you guys in for good measure.
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>>172966318
>Get 85% winrate as Orochi by pressing two buttons
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>>172966448
Level 5 Orochi. As in, not even Rep 1. He was rep 4 PK with full emotes and stuff. Getting Orochi to Rep 5 would be maddening. You literally just zone and light interchanging and pray your opponent falls for your entry level mindgames. My "mains" are a rep 1 Kensei and a Rep 3 LB with a 65% winrate between them.
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>>172965460
>come up with an argument for you?
proving why it should be an easy punish would be for your argument not mine, my argument is it's fine, your's is that it should be a free win or some shit
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>>172966249
Ah, definitely has a more mature tone. Still sounds relatively young though, mid twenties to early thirties perhaps. Also sounds like she's purposefully speaking with a lower pitch. Her battle cries are a lot higher in pitch. Still, I'd think that the English is probably the overall canon one.
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>>172966556
RAIDER SHOULD SHIT ON OROCHI CAUSE MUH 1/3 HEALTH OFF A LIGHT PARRY BUT I LOSE TO EVERY OROCHI BECAUSE THEY NEVER THROW OUT LIGHTS AND RAIDERS ATTACKS ARE SO GARBAGE, I SPEND 90% OF THE GAME SPAMMING GB INTO ZONE BECAUSE THATS RAIDERS ONLY VIABLE ATTACK AND EVEN THAT CAN BE PARRIED.
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4v4s are stupid
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>>172967086
Also, Orochi is voiced by Gyro Zeppeli.
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>>172967316
Fair and balanced.
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>>172967103
Learn to unlock zone. That shit makes me want to pick up Raider since I loved him in the beta but then I found Nobushi and fell in love with pissing people off by poking them to death.
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>>172967316
is that a meme name
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>>172966962
as it is right now it's not punishable
you can still block you can still dash
only thing that is bad about it is no feinting
you take the same chip damage
your dashes cover the same distance
they cost nothing
they are just as fast
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>>172967103
>Facing Raider as Orochi
>He has to keep his guard left or else he'll get zoned
>Put stance into top attack to bait him into changing guard
>Zone
>Do this over and over
>There's practically no way he can beat it because of his stance delays

Out fucking played.
>>
>>172967502
p-perhaps
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>>172967086
It doesn't change that JPN Momiji is meant to be taken much more seriously than ENG Momiji.
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>>172965320
I dont speak japanese!
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>playing against a warden
>bashes me two times, no gb
>finally decide to dodge
>he doesn't even stop the bash, it tracks me in a fucking 180 degree pattern
this is too much
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>>172967989
Definitely, she sounds much more serious than the naive, playful sound of the English version. But I was only using Momiji as an example of a Nobushi that definitely isn't a wrinkly grandma.
>>
>>172968210
Dude, just light, lmao. nigga just roll away lmao how is vortexing even real hahahahahaha
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I want multiplayer modes with no UI indicators
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>>172894958
YOU ARE A RAIDER! LEGENDARY!
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How exactly do you do the thing where you change the Kensei's unblockable into a side attack during the windup? I have only managed it twice.
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>>172968778
I hope he enjoys getting fucked in 1v1s until raider gets buffed sometime next year.
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>playing shug
>throw assassin hes out of stamina doesnt fall over and I dont get a punish
>throw him again into wall
>okay since he doesnt fall over Ill try embrace
>he fall sover and I lose half hp

this is fucking stupid
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>>172968741
Light spam would be even worse. There'd be less turtling and more general bullshit since you couldn't reliably block.
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>>172968792
During the windup of the top heavy unblockable, just hit side light/heavy. Kensei will automatically transition the top heavy into a side light or uninterruptible side heavy.
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>>172969374
Alright, thanks. I thought you just had to change stances as soon as the windup started, because that's what a guy I was fighting told me. He was probably lying just so I wouldn't be able to do it.
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Daddy petemoo
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>every raider is black
>every shugoki is black
>black valkyries are increasing by the day

can someone explain this meme to me
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>>172969613
>vikangz
>big nig

that's it
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>>172969613

Operation blackout was misunderstood
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>lawbringer sounds badass as fuck, if not a little too young, when screaming AD MORTEM INIMICUS
>your enemy just hears a retarded old man lisping "AD MORTHUM"
>NO SUPERSTES becomes FROS-BLOW-VENAY

why?

FIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT UBISOFT LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CHARACTER SOUNDS EXACTLY THE SAME WHETHER YOU FACE THEM OR ARE THEM
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>>172969849
It's so you can tell your enemies apart from your allies by sound cues in 4v4 modes, my dude.
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how do i play berserker
I find myself just mashing agains their guard, no matter how hard i feint
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>>172967690
Ok, and
If you make it so people can't dash when out of stamina then they are fucked against anyone with a bash or unblockable (which of course is how you punish them normally but normally they at least have a chance to evade), if they don't die before you run out of stamina then they will punish you the same way until they run out of stamina and so on.

If you make it so they can't GB then they are just fucked, would be too much of a punish.

Maybe if they made it to where dashing out of stamina took stamina then that would be ok, but they still wouldn't be punishable, If they reduced the dash distance, it still wouldn't be punishable.

I like the way it is, being out of stamina is a portion of time were you can't attack the enemy and if you mess up you get super fucked.

If you make being out of stamina a death sentance, then people will be too afraid to attack and also heros like goki, valk, warden, conq, warlord, and Law(im fine with law :^)) get supper buffed for their stamina punishes. So the combat becomes a game of "lets see who can get the other out of stamina first and rape them without running out myself" The gameplay would be garbage.
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>>172970020


try reading my entire post next time before you reply to it, thanks!
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>>172969849
No they don't. The enemy uses a different voice from your own. For some attacks, the callout is the same (JINJYO NI SHOUBU, for example), but on the whole, the voice is different. Listen to the grunts and exertions.
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>>172970054
If your enemy doesn't wanna parry, you can't.
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>>172970126
My reasoning still stands. There was probably a point during development that someone realised Lawbringer was exceptionally confusing and obnoxious in 4v4 clusterfucks, so they gave him a unique voice for when he is on the enemy team. Characters still have different battle sounds besides their shouts, anyway.
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>>172969269
and there would be more fun
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>>172970460
>Literally every fight would be Orochi, PK and BERZERKER
>More fun
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>conq recovers from light parrys faster than others
Is he our /character4retards/
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>>172970594
He's a tank. Tanks are characters for retards in non-MMO games, and characters for gentlemen of refined tasted in MMOs.
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>>172970460
No, fuck you. I played through Realistic mode once already. I don't need to fight Orochi and Warlords without a UI ever again, so you can fuck off with that.
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>>172969849
>NO SUPERSTES becomes FROS-BLOW-VENAY
What does the enemy version even mean?
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>>172970950
>warlords heavys and lights use the EXACT SAME ANIMATION JUST SLOWER OR SPED UP
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>>172970813
What if I play tanks in both of these genres though
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>>172968076
Nihongo o wakarimasen!
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>>172941015
Yeah, and I like using his light attack parry thing to just sneak in damage. People don't expect you to play aggressively without headbutt spamming, so when you do occasionally throw one out it catches them off guard.
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>>172967146
Only if you have retarded teammates. I almost lost this game because my teammates kept rushing the Conqueror when we had 4v2 on them with only a couple minutes left on the clock.
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>>172971381
You're a retard with refined tastes.
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>>172970813
So what your saying is everyone who plays World of Tanks is a retard? Well you're not wrong
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>shugokis heavys are so slow they are unparryable
>I now understand why everyone blocks them
Rlly mkes u think.
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>>172970950

only babies need baby ui mode
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>>172971510
Oops, wrong screenshot lol. That game is sick though, Colosseum: Road to Freedom. I'd recommend it everybody in the general.
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>>172958794
>revive teammate in elim
>lets enemy kill him because he "died fair and square"

honorfags in 4v4 are as cancerous as the ones they claim to be better than
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>>172971591
>game named after World of Warcraft
>not an MMO

Umm...?
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>>172971510
oh yeah, very close match there :^)

>>172971771
Technically it's a moba, but it's not really a moba. It's like a single life team deathmatch with a capture point for each team
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>>172970378
tha
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>>172970090
never said make it a death sentence
but right now it's literally not punishable
assassins have it the easiest
and the devs agree
they want to make it more punishing
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>Skirmish
>My team is all Valks and I am the only rep1, all others rep0
>Enemy team has one 108 and the others are almost purple geared
>They lose because to use their gear they would actually have to be on their feet which is just not a thing against a team of sweeping cuties
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>>172972134
But it is punishable, you throw someone who is out of stamina they fall on the ground and you do a lot of damage to them. you parry someone out of stamina and they fall on the ground and you do a lot of damage to them. That is a punish
It's just not a FREE punish. you have to trick the enemy or punish their mistakes like dodging away where you can get a free gb. They can't make it more punishable without making it a free punish and therefore a death sentence, that's my point.
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>>172972914
Why would anyone just let you throw them?
Why would anyone throw out attacks while out of stamina?

You can't discuss balance in the context of terrible players on their first day.
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>dueling
>mirror match, or face someone who is playing a character you """main""" or play a lot
>they kick your ass with them
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What the fuck do I do if I'm fighting a berserker who does nothing but deflect?
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>>172973698

shoot him
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>>172973698
Stop being a predictable faggot?
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>>172973020
It's not a discussion of balance. at all. it's a discussion of you shouldn't have to take 90 damage if you don't do anything wrong. The only imbalance is that some characters can punish it more than others. If nothing happens it doesn't matter, nobody loses anything if something does happen it's going to be the person out of stamina taking a lot of damage.

You can't think of a way to make it more punishable without being too punishable because there is no way.

Once again you just want a free win. You're complaining about a situation were either nothing happens or you profit.
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>>172973670
>tfw you save a thumbnail
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>>172973864
I'm playing lawbringer and he can literally just deflect everything on reaction you dipshit.
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>>172894180
>Viking music
>Not Tyr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08bRPCoQSo
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>>172973951
Don't play lawbringer then? Does it matter which way you lose?
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>>172973874
>get exhausted like a retard
>d-dindu nuffin!
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>>172973698
feint

feint -> guardbreak

feint -> light
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>>172974190
there are literally characters who can exhaust you from half or more stamina. Sugoki headbutt, valk parry > gb > headbutt

also Putting pressure on the enemy with attacks is important for some characters, I know you wouldn't understand because you obviously play Warlord or some other turtle and wait for the enemy to attack before you do anything.
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>>172969849
>characters say different things if they're not on your team
How have I never noticed it. You saying it makes me realize it for LB but now I'm trying to place it for every other character. Do warden's still say misero/te secabo when bashing? I feel like I really would have noticed if they didn't just from how distinct it is.
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>>172973670
>you're rep 7
>they're rep 1
>they destroy you
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>>172974676
its for every character, even the revives are different, at least from what I've heard, enemies talk in their native language when they get revived while allies speak english. Many sound queues are the same, though, p sure wardens say the same things in general.
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>>172974802
>Face a Rep 7 Kensei as a Rep 1 Kensei
>Destroy him
>He rages at me and says I play like a fag
>We played exactly the same, I just executed my it better
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>>172974538
>Sugoki headbutt, valk parry > gb > headbutt
Both of these are only a factor if you fucked up.

>also Putting pressure on the enemy with attacks is important for some characters, I know you wouldn't understand because you obviously play Warlord or some other turtle and wait for the enemy to attack before you do anything.
Just because you play awful characters for hipster cred doesn't mean the current metagame isn't defensive/reactive. If "putting pressure on the enemy with attacks" works for you, that means your matchmaking rating is incredibly low.
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baited to oblivion and back

>>172975126

In fairness its hard to break a good shugokis defence

gb attempts to remove armor can just be light + headbutt, only real option is parry his light attack
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>>172975502
Not him, but

>good Shugokis
>attacking first
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>>172975126
I play Law becuase I like playing law, If I don't do feints and top lights against turtles I can't do anything.

>Both of these are only a factor if you fucked up.
Yeah, because In this meta doing any attack at all is fucking up. and you want to make it even worse by making using any stamina at all a fucking death sentence.
posted from you're rep 20 Snorelord and Conq

also mmr doesn't matter, I sit in queue for 2 minutes and then have the chance of fighting anyone of any skill level. Sometimes I fight mouth-breathing retards, sometimes I fight passive rep 6 gorillian warlords. sometimes a combo of the two.
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>>172975708

well I like to if I predict an attack, I shutdown all their lights and gbs attacks until they turtle up, then I start the run 50/50 which makes the aggressive again
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>>172927626

Why link to a shitter who spends more time talking about nonsense rather than explain all the things we're actually looking for in the patch? He's even got 2 wishlists and a Patreon.

Get that shit outta here.
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Really dissapointed they didn't rehash the best spear execute from unity
Just jabbed the spear through the man then grabbed the handle on the otherside and yanked the rest of it through.
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>>172975891
>I play Law
any opinion discarded
>I sit in queue for 2 minutes
you ARE in a shitter mmr
try 15-20 min in q
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Who besides Warden mains actually think their charge is okay as it is? A drastic stamina cost increase is the least they could do, every free guard opener needs to be nerfed the same way.
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>attack a conq
>he blocks
>he bashes
>dodge and light
>blocks mid bash
>try feinting
>doesn't fall for it
what do?
literally impossible to get a hit in
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>>172976205
>The top tier characters at tournaments are the ones with guard openers
>The ones that lack them are all garbage tier
Really makes you wonder huh
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>>172976145

>15-20 minutes in queue at all skill levels

Go take your Brazilian Red NAT and fuck off.
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>>172976145
>you ARE in a shitter mmr
>try 15-20 min in q
It goes strict>extended>all levels not >strict>extended>all levels>even more levels>lel heard you like levels
nice meme though. What's your uplay, you obviously are a gamer god and win all the tournies
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>>172976205
>>172958712

he is in a good spot
but his full charged shoulder needs work

webm example, you can charge it to almost ful and cancel into gb
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>>172969613
Americans and cucks
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>>172976459
READHED
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>>172976848
1v1 me Uplay: Cuteanimegirl
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>>172976459
i haven't played in a week
and what could you do to a warden as the law?
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>>172976965
it's CuteAnimeGirl
at least get it right
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>>172976980
Hope he's stupid enough to attack outside a bash and you're fast enough to parry.
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>>172976980
If he starts a bash law can top light. I'm slow as fuck though so I end up having to roll away. free GB after blocking zone, I have the timing down to where i get it and dont do le bash followup. Law can annoy him with bash. and that's all. warden has to initiate everything and law has to react or law gets nothing
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>>172977285
>opponent has to initiate everything and law has to react

That's LITERALLY Lawbringer's design philosophy and this will never change, even if they manage to unfuck the general defensive meta. If you hate it, it might be time to find a new main.
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>>172977285
good warden will not throw a zone ever
except to punish feinting
shoulder fucks the law up
tho there is one thing the law can do to stop it
and i am not telling it ;^)
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>LB fags back at it again
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>>172977509
I only hate reactive play when I'm a law and the opponent is doing it. because I can't do much. I use top light and feints against everyone except warden though. warden can top crushing counter my top light or he can punish feint with top light or zone
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>>172977729
Next warden I fight I'm going to try to do the walking backwards heavy meme and see if that does anything, it probably wont, but I can dream. but yeah, top light fugs shoulder, I just have kinda slow reaction like 270ms so I don't get it in time a lot
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>Rep 10 with Kensei
>Never noticed that different shoulder pieces change his shirt color and arm guards
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>>172977509
I use zone input for parrying or crush countering sometimes.
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just checking in from the xbox part of the world:

dead game - 5min queues for 4v4 elimination. possibly infinite queues for 1v1 and 2v2 solo queue

this game will be $19.99 on consoles and less on pc by the end of july. mark my words.

it won't fix anything. look at the activity on titanfall for the free weekend. this game is eternally dead

cs go, siege, and these niggering rts games
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>>172978389
>Xbox
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>>172978389

What about titanfall not on a free weekend?
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>mfw I finish off a swastika emblem orochi by throwing him repeatedly into fire and then calling him a jew
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>>172978991
it hasnt had shit as a boost

and i wont even give this faggot a click but this faggot above yeah post for me the last mp game that tracked well but only on a certain platform

anything faggot anything. use google, faggot.
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>tfw my character could totally be a Dark Souls boss
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>>172978576
i recognize you are 12-15 years old but at the same time i deeply wish death on you
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>>172979793
maybe If you got a better job you could afford a PC, wagecuck
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>>172979780
True, but we already had Smough so it wouldnt be very original.
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>>172980403
I dont play Shugo though
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another one bites the dust
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>>172980507
nice try fatty
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>>172980605
Shugo is cool but I play his older brother Kensei
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>>172980712

Nobu Nobu is cute!
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>>172980536
>warden mains will defend this
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>>172981056
full charged bash is easy to dodge and pretty much a free gb
t. Law main
>>
Warden?
More like
Wardumb

Conqueror?
More like
Conqueeror

Peacekeeper?
More like
Piece-of-shit-keeper

Lawbringer?
More like
Flawedbringer

Raider?
More like
Gaider

Warlord?
More like
Whore-lard

Berzerker?
More like
Badzerker

Valkyrie?
More like
Val-kys-rie

Kensei?
More like
Kengei

Shugoki?
More like
Shu-go-kill-yourself

Orochi?
More like
Orochink

Nobushi?
More like
Noobushitter
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>always play Warden cause like him, the Swiss Army Knife style character isnt usually my go to in these games but Warden is special for some reason
>pick up Lawman again, forgot how much I loved smashing a flaming axe on someone yelling AD MORTEM INIMICUS
>always gets parried every time I try to go for it off of something that isnt a light parry
>go back to playing warden a lot sadder and much more bitter

Well at least my Warden almost has black iron.
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>>172928381
>Bandwagoning LB
>none of his buffs fix his existing 1v1 issues.
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>>172980712
These look like they'd be in a Viewtiful Joe game. And that's great.
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>parry someone
>try GBing
>i just stand in place like a retard, GB-ing air and opening myself up
how the FUCK do i do the dash gb after a parry FUCK
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>>172981515
>Shu-go-kill-yourself
10/10
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>>172965573
What the fuck is this webm trying to show? That you can't grab someone that just had the grab effect? That's working as designed.
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Post emblems
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>>172980536
>Unironaclly using any attack other than top light or zone as roach
Dumbass had it coming.
>>
>Face an Orochi in duels
>My reactions are shot
>Fingers are cold
>Still manage to get him to a 2-2 standoff
>Jokingly mention how shit my reaction times are at the moment
>"WOW MAKING EXCUSES?"
>He barely beats me
>Say "good game"
>He quits without a word

What the fuck is wrong with Roaches? I don't get how saying "my reaction times are bad" is an excuse? Isn't it more an admittance of failure?
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>>172982552
Do you know how Berzerker works?

That webm is showing that if a Berzerker gets a deflect off on a Valk, which is supposed to guarantee a GB, is fucked up by 500ms attacks.

You deflect a Valk or a PK's light. You're supposed to get an automatic GB. If they keep chaining their lights, one of two things will happen. Either they'll hit you, interrupting the guaranteed GB and dealing damage, or their hit will be blocked, which fucks up the animation for the Berzerker and denies them their GB, because they'll bounce off.

This is not working as intended you idiot.
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>>172982552
>T.valk main
Valks chain is so fast that zerker blocks the second hit during the deflect while valk is being guard broken, then the game trys to continue the deflect but shes already guardbroken.
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>>172983090
You said at the moment, thats kinda like saying heh, this is only half my power level KID, I wouldnt even break a sweat at full power (normal reactions)
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>>172983096
His GB isn't working because the person already has the effects of GB. Just hit them.
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>>172983325
Are
you
actually
a
retard
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>>172983325
The GB is automatic, you can't just hit them.
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>>172982819
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>>172983442
If that is the case then he shouldn't post a webm where they keep trying to grab someone that is already under grab effect.
I don't play Berserker or Valkyrie.
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>>172983545
What part of automatic don't you understand?
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>>172982819
first is family crest
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>>172983287
It was true, though. My reaction times are normally better, and I wasn't insulting him.
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>>172983545
>I don't play Berserker or Valkyrie.
This is painfully fucking obvious.

Let me spell it out for you, you inbred fucking degenerate.

Do you know what a deflect is? Of course not. As an assissin, dodging into an attack as it connects to you deflects it: that's what the bright blue fucking sparks are. This has different benefits based on character. 'zerker, upon getting a deflect, will AUTOMATICALLY, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INPUT, GB THE OPPONENT.

The webm doesn't show him trying to GB somehow who is stunned, it shows him deflecting A SINGLE ATTACK. THERE ARE NO EXTRA INPUTS AFTER THE DODGE: EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS HARD SCRIPTED AND CANNOT BE CANCELLED.

Valk can spam lights so fast that it fucks up the animation THAT CANNOT BE CANCELLED and makes THE AUTOMATIC PROCESS try to apply the GB animation twice. This only happens because her lights are so fast they can hit during the GB animation after getting deflected. Her lights are so fast they BREAK MECHANICS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET
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Imagine how much fun being Law would be if people got stunned from being bashed into a wall like conq does and you could get a heavy off it
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>brawl
>left 2v1, they gang up on me
>throw one off, defeat the other
>they get salty
>second round
>2v1 again, my pal can't keep up with their PKs light spam
>kill the low hp PK with a random heavy swipe while she runs up to me, then defeat the roach
>they get even more salty
>3rd round
>2v1, again
>they wailed on me so much i popped revenge
>killed the PK
>"wtf revenge"
>killed the roach
>the very milisecond the roach died they both left
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>could stunlock like you like conq does
>but lawbringer heavy actually deal damage

No thanks.
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>Shugoki's "Nani?"
That doesn't sound like my animes at all
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>>172984161
>Imagine how fun an infinite stunlock would be
For the Law player, maybe.
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They extended the time again, it was just at 5 hours left, holy shit.
UBI PLEASE, IF WE DIDNT EARN IT DONT GIVE IT TO US.
>>
>>172984647
In the end that's all that matters right ;^)
>>
>>172983658
>>172983962
>THERE ARE NO EXTRA INPUTS AFTER THE DODGE: EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS HARD SCRIPTED AND CANNOT BE CANCELLED.
Why didn't you say that? It just looks like they are "automatically' getting GBed and they are trying to grab them again.
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>>172984804
Because he made the mistake of trusting people to know the most basic fucking game mechanics you fucking idiot
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>get to rep 6 with lawbringer, rep 4 with raider and rep 3 with shugoki
>have a level 12 warden that I haven't touched since the game was released
>decide to do a few duels with him
>win and lose a few matches, after which I become a pro warden player
>beat a rep 9 lawbringer 0-3
>beat a rep 4 orochi 0-3
>beat a rep 3 warden 0-3, because even warden can't beat warden

Truly the most balanced class.
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>>172984727
Those events are pretty standard in games like BF as being sure rewards, and are more of a dickwaving contest on how different platforms performed.
I don't know why they don't just drastically lower the numbers for this game, they just keep embarrassing themselves.
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>>172984727
PS4 finished this like early yesterday.
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>>172984727
Are you playing on dedbox or some shit? It's long over on PC
>>
>>172969613
>Not playing as nigress raider
Shit I'd bury my face in them black as tar tiddies.
>>
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>>172984916
Why the fuck would I know how every character works?
>>
>>172985390
>is he on dedbox
Anon, look in the top left.

That's the one
the only
fucking metalkid267

Yes, he's on xbox.
>>
>Get matched against a super high level player
>He literally never attacks
>Just stands there switching guard and jigging on the spot
>Playing Kensei so I can't do anything
>Tell him it's tedious and I can't be bothered
>Quit

This game fucking falls apart if you don't main one of the Power Players, doesn't it? You get into matches where your opponent's ability to win is just their patience versus yours.
>>
>>172982819
Are you The_Alt_Knight, by any chance?
>>
>>172985493
>competative game where x counters y while z does a
>not knowing each characters ins and outs
gl staying bad
>>
>>172985563
the combat is so pants on head retarded it punishes you for being offensive, so people learned to NEVER attack, like those bots in Q3 who learned that they wont die to other bots if they dont attack eachother and became peaceful
>>
>>172985519
Never seen him on jewbox, does he only play dom or duel/brawl?
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Reminder to boycott today.
Don't let Ubisoft stick it in your ass.
>>
>>172985691
The only time you can attack is from a safe initiation, or with Valk/PK side lights over and over. If your enemy tries to parry a 500ms light, chances are they'll be punished for it unless they are in the top tier of play. I don't know anyone who can consistently parry a 500ms light, whether it's Kensei's top or Valk's side. It's easy against an Orochi or Kensei because their attacks generally come from the top, but on PK and Valk it's guesswork as to whether or not you're gonna get that parry, not reaction time.
>>
>>172985493
>conq main
>"Why the fuck would I know how to play the game?"

touche
>>
>>172985493
>I don't play characters so I don't know how they work
I don't play PK and I know all the shit she can do. I know she gets a free dagger stab off every heavy. I know which of her attacks count as heavies. I know that her max damage combo off a GB is 2xStab>Wallbang>Lunging Heavy>Free Poke

I know all this because I'm not a shitter
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>>172985905
>7:00PM in god's timezone
but there's no more day left
>>
>>172986381
Is that penis going to be okay
>>
>>172985905
>I'm not gonna play the game I paid for even though Ubi has been making strives to fix problems
The best way to make a game better is to play it, otherwise they're going to abandon it.
>>
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>>172985865
When im not playing with people from the club im mostly doing duels. I check regularly to see if anyone is playing but it seems even in the club no one plays this damn game. Good for them, but I cant get away from this damn game.
i just want to finish my playthrough of the witcher
>>
>>172984727
Are the Event orders not cross platform like the Faction War?
>>
>>172987072
Sorta. The gametype is cross platform, but the amount necessary and current progress is completely separate.

For example, PS4 for the same event needed 100,000 less games.
>>
>tourney for $2500
>goki hits a PK through several feet of wall
truly an amazing game for competitive play
>>
>>172987468
got a vid for that? had to be hilarious
>>
>>172987571
it's live right now, I should have clipped it, maybe I'll look through the vod later

4chan is calling the link to stream spam, it's on dmbrandon channel
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Question for good Valk players. Is there a good reason for me to get good with using the shoulder pin more often? Is it that useful? At first I assumed that like nobushi, the bleeding person takes extra damage while they're bleeding. Is that true?

I've been practicing using it against bots but before I really put time into it I'd like to get some opinions on whether it's that useful.
>>
>>172985905
The only thing i want fixed is pick any color for any mode and remove 60 item cap on chars and give us a total pool aka 800 slots for all 12 chars since most people only play 1-3 chars.
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>>172982819
>>
>>172988163
a hoonter are ye'? and an outsider too? on tonight of all nights
>>
>>172987784
No extra damage. The only thing that would possibly make it more useful than a parry is that you can follow up with a shield bash. It's more options, but you don't really need to use it at all. Really satisfying to land, though.
>>
>>172987468
High level play. Who thought shugoki run was a good idea. They arnt even playing the game the way the other 11 classes play. Literally a shugoki running around for 80% of the match.
>>
>>172959523
Heavy bash no longer wallsplats.
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>>172988358
AWAY
W
A
Y
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N-nice one UBI.
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>>172987784
>conq mains
>>
>>172988670
>orange team only has 3 players, not even an AI filler
>>
>>172988670
>that orochi
people already don't like us on basis of existence and that guy just goes off adding fuel to the fire.
>>
>Play a duel against a rando
>Get ledged a few times
>Rematch him
>Ledge him round one
>He quits
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I took a looong break from FH, I'm hearing that
>PK nerfed
>LAW buffed
>revenge nerfed

jesus patch happened?
>>
>>172989161
No
>>
>Shug does the false GB for the charge heavy
>Casters just don't fucking notice
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>>172988670
>>172988968
>>172989067
and then this
>>
>>172989161
not yet, In the words of Wargaming, "soonTM"

>>172989245
The real meme is that it's allowed iirc
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>>172980970
>someone posted my OC
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>>172989396
It's fine being allowed, it's not fine if they don't even fucking know about it.

The GB feint is pretty easy to deal with: you just have to realize it's something they can do, and not just smash GB the second you see the animation.
>>
>Duels are the daily challenge
>Get matched against a Roach
>He does nothing but turtle
Gee I wonder why no one plays duels
>>
>>172989245
>>172989396
You would think that these tourney fags would be using it more. That and the soft feint every class.
>>
>>172989548
>>172989629
oh boy, time for charge meme mirror
>>
>>172989694
I actually kinda like this, just because Sypher is fucking next level.
>>
>>172989793
yeah, sypher is great, he can actually play without the charge but of course uses it for easier wins
>>
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>That tracking
What
>>
>>172989989
working as intended
>>
>>172989694
>almost time out
>people in chat calling the game garbage
Rip
>>
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As a conqueror, what are your guarantees?
>>
FUCKING HOME RUN
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>>172989989
>he doesnt drift with his law at all opportunities
https://my.mixtape.moe/tdaylf.webm
>>
i feel like every valkfag in this gen is autistic and gay.
>>
>>172990416
Hitting with a charge guarantees a light and sometimes a heavy. Wall splat from charge guarantees a heavy.
>>
>>172970090
>I like it the way it is because it favors me
Assassins and their playerbase ruin everything they touch.
>>
>>172990606
I'm a Law
>>
I'm guessing there won't be a livestream for tomrrow.
>>
>>172990574
Valkyrie is a mixture of Warlord and PK. Once those two are nerfed, she'll be the ass-fucker everyone plays. A lot of PK mains already play her due to the similarity of SPAM LIGHTS.
>>
>>172988590
that's not even what makes conq strong
>>
So can we all agree that Shugoki is a top seat, now?

Top 4 are Shug, PK, Conq, Warlord.
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>>172973951
Parry him, numbnuts.
t. Rep 3 Law
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>>172990483
GET OUTTA 'ERE
>>
>>172990752
Well the guy I'm replying to did say a slight nerf.
>>
>>172991373
def up there
>>
>>172990416
Who is Lewdkeeper?
>>
SypherPK on suicide watch
>>
>>172991826
Nobody
>>
>>172991802
$2500 tourney was just dominated by Shugoki play.

Warlord main took time before this to learn Shugoki, and mained him in the tourney instead. Finals was 3 matches of Shug mirrors.

I would definitely argue that Shug is maybe number 1.
>>
>>172991852
Who?
>>
>>172990686
Well, that second part remains true.
>>
>>172991826
An anon who did nothing but RP an excessively lewd Peacekeeper in duels. He literally wouldn't fight back and would just talk dirty in chat and be a power bottom.
>>
>>172991626
GAME!
>>
>>172991826
A shitposter with a discord following defense squad.
>>
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>viking faction
>make Cult of the V8 emblem
>shiny and chrome armor set
I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLA
WITNESS ME
>>
>>172991992
the guy who made the goki meta mainstream. He just lost a $2500 tourney to a warlord who picked up goki a couple weeks ago
>>
>>172991626
S I X
I
X
>>
I honestly don't know how revenge works...
>my teammate is outnumbered 3 to 1
>I come help take a guy off his back
>I hit him twice and now he has revenge

I just quit and hope the game crashes and kicks everyone out. Fuck this game.
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>tfw never spend steel on stuff because the next day they could show new upcoming cooler stuff
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>>172993031
soon
>>
i get way faster matches in mortal kombat x than this bullshit

there's no way they intended this to be a squad-based action game i

what is the mode i am supposed to be playing? are they merging playlists?
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>>172900830
>goes for light parry
>gets hit in the head
>>
>>172993090
Every single valk ornament including this look dumb as fuck except for the two Baa horn ones.
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>people STILL give a shit about this dead dumpster fire

wew
>>
I just want new armor and weapon skins senpai
>>
>>172992917
It's shitty because you can't actually help your teammate out without technically ganking the enemy, which super fuels their revenge meter
>>
can someone tell me how to valk

she is so FUCKING weird to me.
>>
>>172993265
all the casuals are on 4s
>>
>>172993396
Including you, since you posted in this thread.
>>
>>172993602
For one, unpredictable light spam.
Two, learn how to leg sweep combo.
Three, if those two don't work, then learn rest of her moves.
>>
>>172993602
Do whatever combos you can to get the sweep, and do the sweep.

Mix it up by occasionally doing a guard break instead
>>
>Tfw you win elimination because the last player alive on your team spends the rest of the round running nonstop to tie the round instead of making us take the loss so we can try again next round
I have such mixed feelings about this. The guy would have lost badly if he tried fighting because the enemy was so fucking good, but it's shitty that people can just go for the tie like that
>>
>>172994146
Was it an Orochi or a PK?
>>
>>172994208
Warden actually, just a bad one.
>>
any reason not to main pk on console?
>>
>>172994529
you could sell your console and games to buy a gun and kill yourself
>>
>>172994529
dignity
>>
>>172994529
Because 30fps and delay makes her actually fucking unbeatable.
>>
>conq
>hard hitter
>light is 12 dmg
>heavy is 23-25
Seriously?
>>
>>172994529
Pretty much retarded if you dont. Easy, win a lot, and make people rage. Sounds fun to me. I live off lawbringer tears in here and reddit.
>>
>>172994529
I mained PK on xbone to rep 9 and ended up switching to other characters because I got bored. You can reliably win by doing nothing besides light spam, GBs, dash attacks instead of parrying, and the occasional zone
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>>172993396
it'll be k if ubisoft learns what they want to do with the game and deals with the server issues. Siege was in the same boat and it's rebounded pretty handily.
>>
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Where's the rest of the data?
>>
>>172995068

I just want the god damn centurion
>>
>>172995134
the DLC bits are where they'll make the most improvement. If the game is anything like R6, they're going to have sweeping, insane amounts of changes for the season start, as well as a mid season reinforcement, which might mark the games return if they talk about making server connections less garbage.
>>
>Playing elimination
>Tie breaker round the enemy sharpens their blades as soon as the round starts
>Run away from them until their bleed effect wears off
>They bitch about me running
Why would any sane person fight someone with sharpen blades?
>>
>Playing elimination as a Lawbringer
>Finish off my guy, go to look around the team
>Find a friendly Valk just staring at an Orochi emoting
>Fight the Orochi since they're just gonna emote
>He ends up popping revenge on me and killing me
>Valk then walks with him to the health buff, letting him grab it while they emote again before fighting
HONORFAGS GET OUT
>>
>>172995456
Because you have feats too.
>>
>>172995924
Not every class has a feat as broken as sharpen blades
>>
>Go check out the official forums
>There's actually someone defending revenge gear saying "the name of the game is For Honor, so if you double team and act dishonorably you should be punished by them getting revenge"
Holy shit these people are fucking autistic

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1620851-Don-t-Nerf-Revenge-Revenge-Gear!!!

He also claims that revenge in 1v1 is perfectly fine because "dude just run away lmao"
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>ragequitting against a raider

shiggy diggy doo
>>
can you spam lawbringer's grunt emote like raider's hipthrust?
>>
>>172996490
aye

it's like "AR! AR! AR! AR! AR!"
>>
>>172994146
one time i was in elim 1v4, killed 3 of them and the last guy was an orochi that just ran away, picked up the speedboost, and revived his orochi teammate. they then just ran around the map the entire last 2 minutes instead of fighting so the round would end and they'd win because they had more people alive.

elim is the worst gamemode by far, way worse even than skirmish. that shit is awful, every single time i play elim people just turn around, run away and pick up boosts. then when my teammates all lose their 1v1s (because my teammates literally never win their fights, i'd say like 90% of my elim matches i'm paired up with 3 retards that lose every single round and i really don't understand it, i thought at first it was just coincidence but it happens every single time i try to play elim so i'm pretty sure there's something fucked up with this matchmaking algorithm) i have to fight 1v4 against people that spam revive whenever i get a kill and just spam bashes over and over so I really can't do anything unless i gorilla mash with revenge, and even with revenge you can't execute because someone just guardbreaks you/bashes you out of the execution animation and then someone revives them while you're busy fighting the rest of them.
elimination is just an unbalanced clusterfuck, i wouldn't bother playing that shit solo unless you're a literal masochist.
>>
>>172996954
They're making Elimination boosts work more like Skirmish in the next big patch, they take 20 seconds to spawn in and require standing in the circle longer to pick up.

Who knows when that is though.
>>
>>172992495
petemoo has played shugoki forever, he just played warlord more because warlord was the best hero in the game and everyone was too dumb to abuse shugoki
>>
>>172991958
people don't realize you can guardbreak shugoki out of his oni charge for some reason
i told this to pete already but he doesn't seem to understand. you can literally just guardbreak him before he knocks you over if you have a decent range on your gb
>>
>>172996954
>i have to fight 1v4 against people that spam revive whenever i get a kill and just spam bashes over and over so I really can't do anything unless i gorilla mash with revenge
The single most frustrating thing in this game is when I'm playing elimination against honorfags
>Fight ends up in a 1v3 because I'm the only one who got a kill
>Two of them stand back and let me 1v1
>As soon as I get the kill they GB me to stop the execution and keep fighting me until they revive the guy
>Then they both back off and let me 1v1 the guy I just killed
>Kill him three more fucking times but it doesn't matter because they endlessly revive him because I can't stop them
This shit isn't "playing with honor" it's being an unbelievable cunt and dragging the match out forever
>>
Did anyone else get a callus on their left thumb from playing this game?

jesus i know i play a lot but it should be this bad. maybe my grip is different since i hold down left trigger while fighting.
>>
Does Raider get guaranteed zone off GB? Because isn't that slower than a regular heavy, and I know those don't go through.
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>>172998297
Here's what Honor gets you in this game

fun fact this is after this guy just went 1v4 and got like 5 or 6 takedowns.
>>
Warden shoulder is by far the gayest thing in the game
>>
>tfw fed revenge nonstop
https://my.mixtape.moe/qvamwl.webm
>>
>>172998717
yep
>>
>>172998598
he does except against assassins who can parry it
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>>172994146
>>172996954
>>172998297
>>172998708
Honorfags can be kind of fun on rare occasions.
>>
>>172998717
>saying this
>when PK exists
>when turtling exists
>when oni charge 50/50 exists
>>
>>172989989
The Criminal-B-Gone 5000 has built-in criminal sensors, capable of dealing out the LAW at a 720 degree angle!
>>
>>172998708
>conq main
didnt expect anything else
>>
>>172999105
>pk exists
>oni charge 50/50 exists
>turtling exists
Pick one
>>
>>172998708
>>172999102
My biggest problem with honorfags is that they're always on my team, and always cost us the fucking game. They don't give a shit that the enemy team is ganking, using bows/catapults, and ledging, they still cripple our fucking team by playing honorable and then deflect all fucking blame if you tell them they cost us the fucking game
>Bro it's called for honor lmao, try not playing cheap
Seriously, this shit pisses me off to no fucking ends. These faggots constantly make my team lose and them act like it's not their fault
>>
>>172999409
How is oni charge 50/50? Are you talking about heavy cancel?
>>
>>173000151
you can either charge, or GB
>>
>>173000151
Sprint at the enemy.

You can now either convert into Oni Charge, or lock on and guard break.

If they stand still, they get knocked down by the charge and eat a heavy.

If they dodge and get hit by the GB, they eat a golf swing or wallsplat hug.
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>>172984727
>metalkid267 is actually real
holy shit, i thought that post was a copypasta shitpost
>>
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>>173000267

You don't actually need to lock to do the GB.
It auto-tracks about 270 degrees.
>>
>>172999409
>>173000267
isnt it a 33/33/33 since they can just dash then roll?
>>
Is there evidence to back up the slow stance switch thing?
>>
>>173001380

It kinda makes sense

why would every single weapon work the same?
>>
>>173001380
Yes,
>>
>>173001380
Play Shug/Law. Then play any assassin, you'll clearly see a difference
>>
>>172999842
It's important to acknowledge that not wailing on a guy in a gank isn't honorfagging. Sometimes the best way to gank is to just hang back and zone out the one guy while your teammate keeps the pressure on. I've ganked with Conks and I always corral the enemy near a ledge/hazard, only attacking when the enemy GBs/heavy attacks/bashes, etc.

Your point still stands though.
>>
>>173001890
>>173001683
>>173001794
I was just wondering if there was evidence out there. I can feel the difference.
>>
>>173001890
Anecdotes are not framedata
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>>172995918
Honorfags need to gtfo back to their containment modes.
>>
>>173002350
I know there's a difference. But people will watch me fight someone, and when the enemy gets revenge they just stand back not trying to help me fight when literally two hits will kill me.

I do appreciate people standing back until the revenge is popped, but once it's popped by all means fucking help me
>>
>>173003227
Why is it always Valks
>>
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>>172995456
Some people have this idea that you should always stand and fight, even when you are likely to lose.
Other people are more pragmatic.
>>
>>172968514
What do you do after the roll then?
>>
>>173002815
kensei, warden, and the assassins have faster/fastest guard changes. retard.
>>
Go here:
>>173003558
>>173003558
>>
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>>173001150
People think im just a meme.
Feels bad man
>>
>>172975708

Yo is that Gregor Clegane?
>>
>>172992193

Go on
>>
>>173003418
>runs to buff
>gets bad when someone ledges him in the area he ran to
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