/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>>172496196
Op is a faggot

All of you guys should watch this before developing your game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOlcB-JxkFw

Who posts here with the nicest art in their game?

So how many of you are jelly, angry, impotent nodevs?

>>172496319
Why are you upset?

>>172496354
Bokudev and you can fight me if you think otherwise fags.

@172496460
I would reply to this post but I couldn't find it.

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>>172496460
>but you cant even find the player in this garbage

>>172496354
Best art is clearly Bokudev. Most interesting concept and possibly game play is Skellydev. Although with an art upgrade I'd play Dixie before all of them tbqhfam

>>172496641
Probably if you are controlling it but anyone who watches the game in a trailer or lets play wont understand what the fuck is going on and it will kill the games sales you idiot.

What happened to monster island guy?

>>172496641
Post a better looking game Dr. Nodev

>>172496641
Took me 2 loops to find it.

>>172496820
check his patreon (^:

>>172496641
MY EYES I CANT TELL WITH ALL THE MOVING SHIT WTF IS GOING ON

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>>172496820
Living in squalor

GUYS, WE SPREAD TO /v/:

>>>/v/372254643

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>everyone complains about one particular thing
>dev thinks it's just a meme and doesn't fix it

>>172496641
if you were to redesign this from the ground up to be playable, you would choose one color for the MC, one for enemies and traps and dangerous things, and one for interactibles. you would keep this color scheme consistent throughout the game.

>>172497271
Why the goatee though?

>>172496820
Literally swimming in his pool of money.

>>172497293
>>172497082
>>172496978
>>172496808
You're all a bunch of autistic fags HEAVILY nit picking who have never played a fucking video game before. Probably trolls from the discord.

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>>172497447
>goatee

>>172497271
We told him ages ago his mc was shit and the cause for most of the clarity issues, but he didnt listen. But apparently listens to steamchat so.

>>172497557
>>172497015
>>172497196
Yes, but WHERE is he. Why is he no longer here.

>>172497718
If I make 20k a month I ain't posting here anymore. Just letting you know up front.

>>172497609
Why are you this way. Why do you have such a good looking game but one simple flaw that you won't fix? Why? ISHYGDDT

>>172497718
did he make a dramatic exit or was that just yandev

>>172497814
But why. I thought we were all friends here.

>>172497814
You disgust me.

When I make it big, making millions per month, I'm going to stick around and help fund yesdevs posting here.

Just a little heads-up:

Learn C++ and JavaScript for your game. Those are the two programming languages that are definitely needed to develop a game. C++ fpr almost everything, JavaScript for details that you are just too fucking lazy to do in C++. Like if you have subtitles, create a list of strings for all the subtitles in your game with JavaScript, and reference them from the file in your C++ code. Don't learn Java, don't learn Python, C++ and JavaScript.

>>172498007
The engine I'm using doesn't support those languages.

>>172498007
>don't learn Python, C++ and JavaScript.
Alright, I'll keep that in mind. I won't learn Python, C++, and JavaScript.

>>172498087
What the fuck are you using? If it doesn't support them, ditch the fucking language. Really, if it doesn't support JavaScript, it's fine, just use C++ for the subtitles, but if your engine has NO C++ support WHAT-SO-EVER, ditch it. It's a shit engine if so.

>>172498007
>create a list of strings for all the subtitles in your game with JavaScript,
You're dumb, you don't use a scripting language for pure data.
Hell this whole post better be bait.

if I make a 3d chess game will you guys play it?

Fuck me what is python actually good for?

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>>172497974
>when I make it big

>>172498212
>ditch the fucking language
Yeah I already did, fuck C++.

>>172498240
this exist s. and it's called, ""POLITICS"

>>172498257
>He doesn't believe in the power of visualization
>He doesn't have the Mamba Mentality
YKHIKY won't make it?

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>>172498161
Did you know that a comma breaks up phrases as well as adds pauses? It's called a compound-sentence. It would be like if I had 2 strings, the first string named String1 that said "Don't learn Java, don't learn Python, " and the second name String2 that said "C++ and JavaScript. I could type "cout<<String1<<String2<<endl;". The final result would be "Don't learn Java, don't learn Python, C++ and JavaScript.". Here's a little tip for the next time you read that, note how I said "Don't learn Java, don't learn Python," but then I said "C++ and JavaScript alone. WITHOUT the "don't learn".

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LESS THAN 24 HOURS
https://itch.io/jam/rush-hour-jam
It's still a 2 week jam so you don't even need to hurry.

>>172498584
I was going to participate because I actually like those movies. But the jam's not about the movies? It's just some random theme?

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>>172498272
No. Ditch the fucking language that is in your engine. Get a new engine aswell. C++ is the best language out there, you dingus!

>>172498235
That was just one example, I said above it "for anything that you are too lazy to do in C++". Having JavaScript as your second handy language is basically a Plan B for lazy people. ANYTHING you are to lazy to do.

>>172498515
Your strength is not in english. It was a shitty sentence, calm yourself.

>>172498791
You are just shitty at remembering things you learned in the 4th grade. If you don't know what a compound sentence is, you are too far lost.

I just want to be successful in gamedev

Someone show me the light and I will go

>>172499016
C++ AND JAVASCRIPT: >>172498007
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN ENGINE, USE UNREAL 4.

>>172498964
Brother. C++ and Javascript full stop is not a sentence. Your wording was confusing, just stop embarrassing yourself. I'm not the anon that originally replied to you

I want to make a game with only the tools that come preinstalled on windows.

what do

>>172498515
>>172498964
You should never intentionally make a sentence ambiguous like that. All you had to do was use a semicolon, or just a period.

How awful would it be for me to implement p2p multiplayer in my game? I'm not sure I can afford/deal with things like servers.

>>172499218
The fact that you even brought that up means that you have something to prove. Stop fucking samefagging.

>>172498964
a comma should go before the conjunction and in a list of three or more items, and you listed three items, did you learn that in the 4th grade?

>>172499343
Just let the players host their own server.

>>172499343
Use the Steam servers, they allow hosting your multiplayer on their servers as long as your game is on Steam. P2P would be horrible. If one person sucks, everyone else will suck.

>>172499424
No. Steam servers.

>>172499352
Third anon here.

You suck at writing and your posts are retarded nonsense, C++ and JavaScript.

>>172499446
>as long as your game is on Steam
That's the hard part.

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>>172499453
Fourth anon here.

I am totally not samefagging, C++ and JavaScript.

>>172499534
>can't afford $100 to get it on Greenlight and/or their game idea isn't interesting enough to get voted on
If you think your idea might not interest people, DON'T MAKE THE FUCKING GAME. If you can't afford $100... oh, anon.

C++ and GDScript are objectively the best languages.

I enjoy this C++ shitposter.

>>172499446
>>172499424
Thanks. I'll look into these. I'm not doing anything too serious in terms of competitive multiplayer, I just want players to be able to walk around and interact.

>>172499653
I enjoy "I enjoy ________" shitposters.

>>172499641
I can agree with you on C++.

>>172499629
Greenlight is going away, and it's going to cost more than $100 to get on Steam. There's no way I'll finish before Greenlight leaves.

How much will getting on steam cost do you all think?

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>>172499352
Your demeanor here gives me reason todisregard your entire post. Part of growing up is acknowledging mistakes and accepting criticism in graceful fashion. Consider anger management.

>>172499801
$5000

>>172499752
Why the fuck are they doing-away with Greenlight? Also, why even do Greenlight for $100? If you are gonna get $100 worth of income, you might as well just pay the whole fucking Steam publisher fee to guarantee it gets put on Steam.

>>172499801
1000 bucks.

>>172499641
No, don't learn GDSCRIPT, C++ and Javascript.

>>172499352
I really hope english is not your first language

>>172499305

Make a CYOA game using folders, notepad documents, file shortcuts and so forth to represent the game's 'engine'. Players must follow the game's rules written in notepad documents and follow the story in order, on their honor. For instance you may open a 'forest' folder which has 3 notepad documents, each a choice of direction the player can go. They must read the document and then navigate to the next folder or document based on what choice they made. The game can also have several difficulties. The hard mode basically forces the player to navigate to the worst folders and always take the worst option in dialogue and quest choices.

Tell the players how to set up their desktop with a 'character' icon (this shortcut is actually their character in the game) and have them perform turn based battles against an opponent that uses predetermined 'moves' set in notepad documents and folders.

Whenever the player uses their move they have to click on the enemy's folder, find the defenses folder, and then click on what attack they used. If they used the right attack, they defeat, knock back, or otherwise injure the enemy. Several file folder icons would be their own player health and mana on the desktop.

Have a branching storyline with multiple factions the player can join, which determine what file folders and desktop icon they get to use.

All graphics are drawn in MSPaint.

Finally, use windows movie maker to create the different endings depending on what faction you joined, your ending karma, and how many of your allies died during the game.

It's literally that easy. Why haven't you made a game yet?

If we were all in the same room what would we be talking about?

>>172499976
damn that was some efficient bait, sorry anon

>>172499801
>>172499919

God why? Steam already gets free money from all the games people put up there and they get a cut without any work on their own. Making it cost 1000 bucks will just limit the number of small budget titles people want to upload.

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>>172496641
Make everything but the character desaturated

>>172499971
It is, I just over-use certain aspects of it to the point where it would really warrant it's own sentence, logically. I like taking detours in speech. It's a habit I started when I was really little and having quit.

>>172500001
Reported. Not game related.

>>172500095
My assumption is that Steam wants to limit the weapon-grade low quality shit. Greenlight is filled with games that will never make $50, but drag down the overall reputation of Steam.

>>172500095
>Making it cost 1000 bucks will just limit the number of small budget titles people want to upload.

That's the point

>>172499801
Probably $100 or a bit more. They're charging per game now so I don't see why it has to be a lot more expensive than Greenlight.

A nodev posted
C++ and Javascript
No game was in sight

- Your daily /agdg/ haiku

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Progress for today: The enemy now regularly mixes up their guarding state, making it harder to just get free hits off on them unless you understand how their AI works.
The special bar also starts flashing when you've got enough of it to activate a super. it stops flashing if you take a hit and can't use your super anymore.

>>172500080
You could be making a microsoft windows-explorer based game right now.

But you playing.

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>>172496196
Idea guy here:
A game where you repair spaceships.

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What's the best way to handle window resizing in a 2D game?

>A) Scale all the pixels upwards
>B) Keep the pixel size the same and just show more of the map
>C) Or design different versions of your game for all the different aspect ratios

>>172500286
>>172500274

Budget =/= shit quality.

Shorter games with lower costs to produce and developers who have lower scope are being bared easy access into selling their games on steam, which is a shame. Quality control on steam greenlight doesn't mean you had to shut it down, or make it so only large indies and heartbreaker dream games can get on their. It's a shame.

>>172500445
I have a real game to make

The idea is actually very cool. I think I would use xp or 2000, on a self-bootable usb. You can make folders with passwords, right? That's an easy way to gate content.

You can also do things like have a mspaint file with a grid of numbers, and you need the key that you find in another file. there might be some tricks you can pull with hidden images and the paint bucket too. Like fill 3 colors in the right order to reveal another password.

>>172500550
A/B, depends if it's okay for the player to see more/less depending on their window size. For a competitive online game, that would be a no-no. C is obviously not the best way. Make sure you letterbox instead of stretching pixels into rectangles when aspect ratios don't match and you're scaling up.

>>172496641
I couldn't tell the player at first
but, you could just zoom to it on the paused menu, kinda like smash.
also, once you know where it is it doesn't matter.
>>172496695
>Dixie
this desu

>>172500550
B for strategy games, where seeing more is not a balance issue, just reduced busywork when scrolling
A for everything else

>that feel when you realize C++ is too inefficient for my game
>that feel when you discover haskell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTZjyZst-wY

>>172499305
Program directly in machine code.

If you have Office you might be able to run Visual Basic programs.

>>172500550
Depends on the type of game, if it's a strategy/tycoon type of game then expanding the camera is best, but also add separate UI and graphics scale options.

If it's something with a fixed camera then a global window scale makes more sense, you shouldn't ever manually make different versions of your game.

>>172500889
Post game.

>>172500274
>>172500286
Undertale was a cheap as fuck game but it made millions. Restricting low "budget" games like that is a bit silly.

>>172500976
He has no game, just a shitposting /g/aylord

>>172500550
B) if your gameplay can take it without shittinh up balance or level design. But keep it within a certain range. So you design the game around say being 360 pixels tall. For a 720 screen, that means that its 2x scale. From 720 - 1080, it stays 2x scale but the amount you can see gets bigger, until you hit 1080, then it snaps to 3x scale, until it hits 1440, etc etc.

I wanted to do this for a jam game but couldnt figure out the code in time.

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I just realized my feet are completely fucked up but I think the legs are looking somewhat more fluid

>>172500889
>when you realize rust is better than all of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP6UNEQIHLg

>>172500889
You could have written Rust instead of Haskell and you'd have been correct.

>>172501142
Honey, purple and brown do NOT go together. Get some fashion sense sweety. Thankies~

Name one (1) game made with Rust.

>>172501237
I'm honestly just focusing on anatomy I'm not looking at color schemes I can change those easily on the fly

>>172501327
Rust.

>>172501327
You.

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How difficult is it to program controllable sliding movements well?

>>172501590
this bitch is everywhere now

>>172501043
Undertale had a $50,000+ budget

>>172501327
Skylarks

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How is your waifu simulator going, agdg?

>>172501732
$50k is dirt cheap for a video game budget

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Is there a name for the awkward late 90s aesthetics in graphics like pic related? What about a tutorial for such a thing?

Something about this look captures a sense of wonder, like playing the game will actually be adventurous. I think there could be something to intentionally making a game like this.

>>172501818
so 1k is a really low entry fee for steam no?

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>>172501750
very good, how about yours?

>>172501931
It's time for you to get beveling.

>>172501873
that is prerendered 3d, wasnt it? the workflow is probably different from realtime, but it would now be possible to emulate it realtime

>>172501732
That was just for extras on kickstarter. The base game was dirt cheap and made in gamemaker and, essnetialyl, made by one person.

>>172500432
So the hits that don't look like they registered is just the opponent guarding?

>>172500108
>adjustable height boot
Nice.

>>172502053
this is just for a test of the core mechanic. if this works i have a LOT of modeling ahead of me

Who would win in a fight

10 enginedev-sized ideaguys or 1 ideaguy-sized enginedev

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Goddam, sculpting is so fucking fun and easy
Really need to get back to making actual game assets now

>>172501818
A 'video game budget' is too vague of a spectrum as it doesn't take into account scope.

$50,000 in terms of indie game budget? That's nothing to fucking sneeze at. That's not even including Undertale's reserved scope, visuals and programming.

>>172500108
is this actually a boot or no? i thought it was a stock and people were meming but now i cant tell

>>172502213
>undertales visuals
You mean those scribbles a 12 year old on deviantart could do?

>>172500550
>best

>>172502296
Yes that was exactly what I was saying, thank you.

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>>172501142
Nice upscaling ... NOT

>>172502210
How does this make you feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzxwNlA6mQ

Who /cryengine/ here?

>>172502056
yeah but I bet my prerendered 3d wouldn't look like that. something about how the latest in 90s/2000s = this, I need the head state of those devs

>>172502157
Yes. The animation the opponent is using is the high block animation, because sprites for the low block don't exist yet and sprites to indicate that the opponent has successfully blocked are not yet implemented. The flashing 'LOW' in the top left is my placeholder indication that the enemy is blocking low so I know that he's actually in that state and it's not just the hitboxes being fucky.

>>172502269
It's just memes. That's clearly a stock.

>>172502204
Depends, are enginedevs big guys for the idea men?

>>172502542
read whitepapers from that era.

>>172502475
Nothing in particular? (Though I obviously didn't watch the whole thing)

What do you mean?

>>172502483
I cry a lot due to my engine. Does that count?

>>172502473
That run cycle looks like pure asshole.

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>>172502473
I'm not doing a up/down animation because it's a Binding of Issac style game so basically I'm going to make his legs and his torso up two seperate entities, with his legs moving left to right and his torso arms and head turning to the 4 cardinal directions.

>>172503047
true but its still better than 50% of the cycles posted here

>>172503073
Turn scaling to "Nearest Neighbor" before scaling up pixel art my friend.

>>172503172
Not using photoshop that's the program I used to turn it into a gif to post. Making a sprite sheet with it so it shouldn't (hopefully) cause that uglyness.

>>172501142
>>172503073

You know the old artist mantra right?

Not good enough to do it? Improve.

Too hard to improve? Hide it!

Don't give the character legs. Just make them have a torso/body, or make it like Rayman with little feet entities separate from the torso.

>>172503297
You know Photoshop can make .gifs, right?

>>172503384
I do but this is a new computer with bad internet I don't feel like torrenting high grade Photoshop right now

>>172503326
I have no idea how that would work artistically but I will take that advice and look for other options thanks friend

>>172500432
lets collab bro

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Area very in progress. But animated grass!

>>172503776

You already have a great artstyle. I can already imagine the shenanigans those two will get up to. Keep at it!

Hi I was wondering if anyone here had solid experience in c#? i need homework help and /G/ isn't very active atm.

>>172504437
Thanks! I'll have to get my writing up to par to keep their interactions with each other and others interesting.

>>172503776
Fucking cool looking game

>>172503776
I like the style but something about the tree's perspective feels off to me.

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>>172505346
Tree's actually just temporary art, same with the flowers. Expect it to look like the trees on the left

>>172505165
you could have fooled us if you hadn't said homework

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My loop is a bit fucky, but whatever, I'll continue tomorrow.

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>>172505480
I'm dead serious. I'm fucking up.
This isn't working and I'm too stupid to know what I'm doing wrong. My test is tomorrow and this homework is the review.

>>172505591
google "your error"

The best thing to do for such shitposts, is to find some progress up in the thread and comment on it to hastily move that garbage out of sight.

>>172505591
You need to pass streamreader a filestream not the filepath.
public FileStream( string path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access)

Where did you guys learn your programming languages? Right now I'm doing the Javascript course on codecademy but I feel I'm not learning much besides the syntax of the language. I like the do it yourself approach it has though as I learn better from doing things myself than getting told or shown.

Also I'm having trouble understanding why some things that I write work while others don't. Is this something that goes away as you learn more about coding, am I retarded or what? I can put a computer together no problem but that's way easier than coding I feel now that I actually know something about it.

Anyway some of you guys have amazing looking games and I want to get to that point too eventually and it just seems like the start is the hardest part.

>>172500527
hello fellow ideafriend

if you don't make that idea and execute your vision, approximately no one will.

>>172505998
Started with GML, then took Visual Basic in school, then switched to C# since they both deal with .Net. Haven't looked back since.

>>172505725
I've tried, I did't quite find what I need. maybe I'm a bit too stupid to get this.

I understand you won't help because you think I'm doing some kind of trolling. But May I ask what you think it is I'm actually doing? You've made me curious.

>>172505998
Let the confusion lead you.
>Huh, if I change this it breaks
>But now this fixes it
>What if I do this.. Okay hmm... Now this?

If I remember Codecademy has a kind of in-browser editor. I'd say to "take notes" by writing that code in your own external browser, and fucking with it, changing things, seeing what breaks it, etc. Throw in print statements to see values (but don't shy away from learning proper debug, eventually). Try to think up what kind of little project would be possible with what you're learning, and go ahead and try to make it. A calculator, a pointless little calendar app, whatever. Then incorporate new things you learn into your toy project.

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was trying to make a skeleton u could kick around

>>172505998
codeacademy is very bad do not use it all it does is teach you syntax it doesn't teach you how to properly program

>>172506378
>my test is tomorrow
Leave this place, or stay and make a game.

Can somebody post examples of a good detailed looking sprite at a small size.

>>172506378
No, you're clearly more sincere then the trolls in this thread. But for example the very first google result for your error is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8047064/convert-string-to-system-io-stream, which has many answers as well as a link to another page of answers. Have you tried all of those solutions?

>>172506378
Anon doesn't think you're trolling, he wants you to learn to solve problems. This is a pretty simple issue and if you read the MSDN sheets for the function you can probably figure it out.

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This is boku's girlfriend and 2 player co-op partner Kimi.

Shes a brown Bokube/bunny cube.

Say something nice about her.

>>172506706
She looks like she'd put up with an abusive relationship out of low self-confidence

>>172506837
>>172506706
This. Boku's white ass probably beats her like a slave driver fucking his black slave. We all know bokudev is racist.

>>172506568
Any other suggestions? I'm only using it because it has a do it yourself type approach but other than that I feel like I'm lost on where to learn. School isn't really an option for me at this point and even if I could the only school remotely near me that I could get into is an agricultural school.

>>172506431
Yeah I gotta say the satisfaction of finally getting things working is very rewarding.

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>>172506898
Color Bokubes isnt a race thing stop plz. Next thing you know you fags will start drawing more shitty porn. Well you know what asshats I'm tired of all the gay porn. At least giving him a chocolate gf will ungay my fanart folder.

>>172507069
BIG
BROWN
CUNNY

>>172506496
You made that chatroom thing, right? Where's a good place to start looking mutliplayer stuff in Unity? I'm looking at the standard unity tutorials and it's all pretty overwhelming.

>>172506954
it depends why do you want to learn programming and what do you want to build?

Each programming language is better suited for different platforms etc

>>172505524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmXEIdLQwHQ

>>172507069
>wants to ungay all the gay fanart.
>Inserts a black/brown GF

Not sure if that was the best move desu senpai. If you're even lucky it will be straight porn somebodies gonna give that brown bunny girl a big black cock now which is even worse.

>>172507310
he's getting off on this right now

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>>172506706
Reminder
>>172507069

>>172507150
hey I dont know alot about networking i do the art mostly. If u DM us on twitter one of the other devs could probably give you some advice (theyre not online atm)

twitter is @wiz_mud, or you can email wizmud911@gmail

>>172507156
Well obviously the main reason is for game dev, but following that I want to fall back to web dev or any other sort of programming related field if I can. I really just want to work with computers as a career in any way and games are a passion of mine, so I figured I'd try my hand at game dev and if it doesn't work out the skills will be applicable to other fields.

As for what I want to build, the first thing I want is to make a 2D or 2.5D action platformer kind of like Shoot Many Robots (basically just a linear platformer with hordes of enemies and bosses) with a roster of diverse wizards (not generic wizards, shit like a gun wizard that summons different kinds of guns, a chef wizard that uses different types of food to buff allies etc). Moving on to ARPGs/RPGs in general, Shooters, Puzzle games, basically I don't want to just be an idea guy.

>>172506609
You're right, I need to work on that. The fact that My test is tomorrow is freaking me out, I tried some of those solutions but they still came up with errors, However I didn't see the page that lead me to more answers.

>>172506656
I'm sorry, Feel free to hate me I'll understand. But... what are MSDN sheets?

>>172507986
>>I'm sorry, Feel free to hate me I'll understand. But... what are MSDN sheets?
Microsoft created C#
The MicroSoft Developer Network has tech sheets on all of the classes & functions

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.streamreader(v=vs.110).aspx

>>172507986
This is Amateur Game Development General
not Homework Help For Retards General
Is your code even related to gamedev? Why would you come here expecting help?

Your lack of preparation isn't our emergency. Fuck, it wouldn't be our emergency if this was the correct place to be asking.

It's hip to fuck bears

>>172508175
I'm sorry, i was just asking for help. There were programmers here So I thought I'd give it a try.

>>172508125
Thank you A lot.

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>>172506706
I drew your girlfriend

>tfw you can't draw for shit so you'll have to end up commissioning an artist
>doing so will force you to finish the game and publish it for money hoping you at least make back what you paid the artist
>it would take thousands of dollars to get all the art for your game
>so now you have to work and save up thousands of dollars to pay the artist
why did i get into this

>>172503508
use GIMP then

>>172509129
bro i cant draw and look what i made
>>172508784

if I can do that you can learn to draw also

>>172507725
http://eloquentjavascript.net/

How do I market my games to women?

Where are the majority of the women on the internet because I legit have no idea.

Twitter Tumblr and Facebook?

>>172509186
look at >>172503073
and see that I really can't fucking draw.

>>172509450
Well you guessed it.

>>172509485
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

>>172509450
women only like simple easy games like candy crush

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>>172505998
If you're just starting out, you could try Pygame, which is a Python library.

There's also a pretty good website for learning common game paradigms called "invent with python". The section with the snake holding a flask gives you a decent introduction and overview of pygame.

When you're done that, you can continue to the section with a squirrel on it, which teaches you some more advanced concepts.

I love pygame for its ease of access, but it's a shame you can't embed them in webpages. Still, I think it's a pretty good stepping stone.

>>172509647
>women only like simple easy games like candy crush
Don't they like story games too? I know women seem to like watching RPGs on youtube.

>>172509129
>He doesn't have free art from his artist friends
Learn how to have friends.

>>172509920
we are talking about the majority of women 99% of women sure there are a few who like story rpg games

>>172509920
>>172510067
>>172509647
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/NickYee/20170120/289534/Beyond_5050_Breaking_Down_The_Percentage_of_Female_Gamers_by_Genre.php

Amazing statistics failure ITT.
Complete trainwreck, it's incredible.

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>>172510172

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>>172510160
why didn't you just post the fucking results?

>>172509450
Towards women in particular?

Low skill floor, no real fail states, relaxing atmosphere, strong art direction and dating. The last one is very important.

You'll want to pursue marketing avenues like the vogue ~*~positive~*~ LPers such as commander holly and game grumps.

Or you know, you could just make the game you want to make with some changes for marketability and not pander. There are women who play regular games.

Why are you failures still working on 2D pixelshit?

Fucking learn Blender already.

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>>172510330
>all the hardest games have more male players
So if I want to target girls I should make my games easy?

>>172510330

women were a mistake

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>>172510417

>>172510330
We already have a game that will do great with women here its called Bokube.

I'm thinking of asking my cute female friends to post pictures of them playing my game on their instagram who each have thousands of followers I am sure this is a good way to market my game *rubs hands*

>>172510547
too smol

>>172510330
I'm too lazy to click the link and read the methodology, is this across all ages? How many were asked and how were they asked? Is there a "male gamer" graph?

>>172510456
easy
and colorful
and you can't really lose only get set back a bit
and you can arrange the furniture and plant flowers

>>172510650
read the methodology fucko

>>172510650
Not sure about your other questions but the male graph is included basically.

I.E 2% of women who play games play sports games, so that means 98% of people who play sports games are men.

>>172510679
I... don't think I could make those games.

I need my games to be hard, for real men.

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>>172510650
>is this across all ages?
yes
>How many were asked and how were they asked?
250,000 online survey
>Is there a "male gamer" graph?
the unused percentage on the genres is the "male graph" you dumdum

>>172510330
>69
nice
>69
nice

>>172508784
rate my bokucube fanart

>>172508784
>>172511042
Needs her to have a black dick raping boku

>>172510330
I wish there was also an age-range demographic as well

I feel like the top is all like really old grandmas.

I'm sure the majority of men play Match 3 games as well if you included adults into the mix.

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>>172511416
>I'm sure the majority of men play Match 3 games as well if you included adults into the mix.

are you for real?

>>172511416
wow you don't know men at all you need to learn human psychology

>>172497920
nah he just stopped posting about when his patreon was $400 was the last i saw of him

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>>172497718
>>172497814
>>172497935
>>172497974

If he stayed the jealous depressed vultures here would keep ripping into him until he leaves anyway.

>try to make a walk cycle
>looks like some disgusting eldritch abomination
Why is animating so hard. I thought it would be easy.

>>172513037
walking is something you really don't want to try doing on your own with no help

>>172513037
Fear not, my child. Heed this wisdom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxjek8mrXNk

>>172513281
I bet you he's not making 3D

Why does OP keep leaving out Loli Jam?
Does it trigger people that much?
It's just another jam, if you don't like it, just don't participate.

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>>172510330
>survival roguelike : 25%

I bet they counted Don't Starve for that.

>>172510330
Where does Touhou fit in there?

>>172513512
Touhou is only played by men.

>>172511416
Yeah. 40-80 is the same size as 0-40, but I'm sure partitioning that way would give much different results (well, being handwaivey since no 1 year old is being a game consumer)

>>172513446
they did
along with Darkest Dungeon and FTL

>>172513446
How is it not a survival roguelike

>>172513559
O-oh...

>>172511416
>>172513571
Their numbers come from Quantic Foundry, it's a self-reported census so grandmas/kids are less likely to actually create a profile in it unless they want access to the data.

The entire point of the research was to see if the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) numbers of female gamers, which usually bundles people that opened Solitaire at least once in the last year with console/pc gamers holds any truth when you target a more select group.

The only thing the ESA got right was females preferring casual games.

>>172513446
>MMO (High Fantasy)
Why have a study of how many women play each genre if we know they're all on one specific high fantasy MMO pretty much exclusively?

What's useful about knowing that?

>>172513716
>we know they're all on one specific high fantasy MMO pretty much exclusively
Yeah, I get mad pussy from playing Lineage 2.

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>>172513436
we've spent two full threads arguing like retards about it and to this very moment there isn't even a consensus about whether it's the SFW one already posted on itch or the one they host on IRC and claim it must be sexual

>>172513770
>Having sex with men pretending to be women for armour
Play Dark Age of Camelot anon, you'll Cum a lot.

>>172513589
First of all it's not turn-based or anything whatsoever LIKE ROGUE.

Not everything that uses proc-gen has to be a "roguelike". What's wrong with the term "roguelite"? Or just sandbox survival?
You're ruining the term's meaning by putting so many different games under its umbrella.

By that criteria Rust/DayZ/Minecraft are also roguelikes since mechanically they're identical (random generated map survival game where you start from 0 and start building shit)

>>172513716
Which one?

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My CORE MECHANIC functions. Patreon millions, here I come.

>>172513716
>they're all on one specific high fantasy MMO pretty much exclusively
You don't know that, you can't conduct a research based on your perceived reality otherwise, you might as well throw a dice and let it dictate your findings.

WAKE UP

>>172499104

You're the most annoying shitposter on this entire website.

Congratulations... I guess.

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This is concept art for boku's questionable bird mother. (adopted/a joke)

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What would you have to put in your (non-porn) game for Steam to reject it?

>>172514176
Remember this post.

>>172514176
Is that a centaur with tits?

>>172514529
stick figures, shoddiest quality imaginable.

>>172514595
yes

>>172499971

I think C++ is his first language.

>>172514595
no

>>172514595
maybe

>>172514595
I don't know.

>>172514595
le ebin malcum mem

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dungeon generation, not so good
rotation isa bitch

>>172514739
Wasn't really alluding to the production value of the work.
So the only "mature" theme Steam will not put up with is nudity and sex?
Strong language, ultraviolence, blood and gore, verbal/physical abuse, substance addictions, ect. are all fair game?

>>172515186
the gay vn with nudity and explicit??? sex got on steam. so maybe if your work has some high art appeal and isnt just furry fuck sim 2017 you can have sex in it.

>>172515186
Nudity can be in the game, it just can't be explicit. Look at Kindred Spritis on the Roof. Lots of nudity in that. It's just not explicit.

>>172515165
thanks doc

>>172515186
>>172515292
and by explicit I mean you can't show two fully rendered bare naked vaginas rubbing together, penis in vagina, penis on penis, or penis in butt in your game. You can show tits and ass though.

>>172515262
>>172515292

interesting
didn't know that

Stay strong.

>>172515397
so if I'm getting this right, you are saying the scene can't have a buttnaked dude railing a buttnaked girl from behind leaning on a kitchen counter, but it can have the two fucking under a blanket with only girl's tits being in the open?

>>172515537
t. gogem

>>172515578
what in the fuck?

>>172515537
Yes, you can show fucking if they are under a blanket with no genitalia being show, only tits. But you have to keep in mind, it would be much easier to just release an 18+ patch like what all visual novel games do on steam.

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>>172515687
That's great to know, thank you.
So, can I ask once again, is there anything else beyond literally showing primary sexual organs, Steam wouldn't publish?
Because I'm not making a porn game or anything like that, I just want to know if there are things to avoid, in case anyone here knows, so I don't have to read some retardedly bloated TOS statement.

>>172516072
if you want to be 100% secure read the TOS. what you read in the thread is hearsay from anons just as lazy as you.

I thought you guys said art was important. How did this piece of trash: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945059142/elysian-shadows-next-gen-2d-rpg
get 180k+?

>>172516447
I'm not even mad about how it looks, but the fact that it claims to be 2D when it's clearly not is pissing me the fuck off.

>>172516447
>2015
It was back when people were still stupid about Kickstarter.

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>>172516447
>The game still isn't done

>>172514176

Centaur girl 30 min workout.

>>172517021
Lol. Just add soy!

Does anybody have any good tutorials on simulating a 3D environments in 2D using Unity? Isometric or otherwise. All the 2D tutorials I can find are concerning things set out like platformers.

>>172517021
>core mechanic
i get it

>>172517138
strongly consider just using 3d with an isometric camera

>>172517259
he can't even do anything else in Unity

>>172517293
i mean if you wanted to be really masochistic you could do all the isometric -> 2d math that you would do in any engine, then do the 2d -> unity math on top of that. unless you really like handdrawing isometric assets you should go full 3d with iso camera.

>>172517259
>>172517293
Serious? No wonder I can't find tutorials.

I wouldn't have to do any 3D models for that? They've never really agreed with me and I'm unsure if they'd mesh with the aesthetic I'm going for at the skill level I could realistically get to before I'd like to start the project.

>>172517593
you would have to do 3d models. alternately, you can use billboarded sprites in a 3d environment, which has its own set of problems

if you're set on 2d assets, try just looking for generic 2d unity tutorials. probably something with a tilemap. tiled, an editor program, is popular and has isometric support out of the box.

iirc you can place isometric assets in a normal grid if you cut the sprites right.

is your game fixed to a grid, or free movement? this also might affect things.

post the style you want and some more info on the game

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>>172517173

Is it possible to get patreon buxs if you're making a non porn and non furry game?

>>172516072
sit down
we need to talk about that ifunny watermark

>>172518294
Yes.
https://www.patreon.com/vacuumflowers
https://www.patreon.com/nonplayercat
https://www.patreon.com/sirlin
https://www.patreon.com/minionsart
https://www.patreon.com/Porpentine

The highest I've seen is sirlin's at 3k. It helps to be female (trans counts). Most never hit 1k. Doing tutorials or something not a game might be another good angle.

>>172510843
>the unused percentage on the genres is the "male graph" you dumdum
Um are you implying that gender is binary?

>>172518890
Number of penises can either be 0 or 1
So yes

>>172518940
What if it's feminine?

>>172518992
Then you need to seek professional help.

>>172519019
Yes, I think I'm going to seek a professional advocate

>>172517809
I'm a bit self conscious about posting too much about it until I have something to show because progress it going to be really slow for me, especially as I work out how to put things together. I don't want to come across as an ideas guy and discount my game before I've even really gotten to into it yet. I figure the best way to get around this is to show off what I've done once I have at the very least a little man running about on the screen. But as it turns out I need a bit of a nudge in the right direction to get even there it seems. I feel like you guys must get a shitload of people who are just starting out with their projects and you've got to be tired of them.

The game will be on free movement up until combat started. At which point the grid comes down and the game steps over to a turn based system where movement is locked to said grid. I figure one of the steps while the battle is getting said up would be kicking the characters into the square where they most fit, while dealing with turn order and changing to the battle sprite. So I guess in terms of implementing it it would be free movement, right?

Thanks for the help dude. I really appreciate it.

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>>172518940
Does this look like a boy to you?

>>172519127
try Black Shell Media

>>172519531
Looks like a faggot, yes.

>>172518890
It is but the researchers knowing how it would be shitposted by snowflakes if they didn't mention non-binary xpeciul mama bois/gurls, added one paragraph explaining the choices of non-binary retards which is pretty close to the women's choices.

>>172519567
woah

>>172518656
>Be female or fe/fi/fo/fum
>Get 600 dollars thrown your way each month just for existing
What the hell.

>>172519567

Enjoy your break from 4chan.

>>172509647
>women only like simple easy games like candy crush
I don't know, anon. My woman plays various things, from shovelware point 'n' clicks and puzzle games, up to AAA stuff like Tomb Raider and The Witcher 3.

>>172520749
>My woman

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>>172519531

>>172520749
We're talking target audiencing here anon. It's pretty much stereotyping. We all know there are girls out there that play all kinds of shit but speaking broadly they don't. >>172510330

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>>172516447
>he makes """""2D""""" games

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What's your excuse for not having hired a modern and progressive writer yet?

>>172521215
If I put on a wig and some lipstick does that mean I can get a job at bioware?

>>172521340
you will also need an at least 3 years old regularly updated social media account with you bitching about patriarchy at least every other 3 days to confirm your authenticity

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Hey so does anyone know what has to be replicated to make the camera look up and down on the server? It's just the base fps template with on server shooting.

>>172520893
Don't compare rotate to my alternate timeline waifu

>>172521215
Are they doing this on purpose?

>>172498584
2 weeks isnt very long anon programming some weird genre mash game is hard!

>>172510330
what is "atmospheric exploration"? kerbal?

>>172523131
Journey, ABZU, Gone Home, Dear Esther.

>>172523131
walking simulators

>>172521881
Two things seem wrong:
1. You should make it so that only owning client sees the "fps" weapon.
2. You didn't setup any sort of blending animation from Persona for the camera work.

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>>172523131
Not that sort of atmospheric.

>>172502542
Its "photorealistic" textures and shapes rendered at low Dos era (i think 320x240) resolutions with basic or no lighting, then cleaned up/iluminated/detailed by profesional artists that know how composition works. For instance - that Fallout UI is amazing, but still designed in a way that it doesnt take away focus from the gameplay.

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Would you believe in this cake?
Sorry if I keep dumping random assets, but I'm not very confident so I need feedback
As soon as possible, I will post some gameplay

>>172525542
I like your foods stuff, they're very cute Anon.

>>172525542
Assets are progress. 10/10 would believe.

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>>172510330
>tfw I want to focus on non competitive, non combat, games
>tfw I know is the perfect mix for females
>tfw I want to make games for little girls
>tfw agdg call me a faggot

I have one idea for mixing gardening, waifus and pokemon.

>>172527079
I want to play that game. And I'm not a little girl.
Do it anon.

>>172527079
DRESSING
UP
POWERS

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>>172527079
well get ready for some fierce competition on the market bro

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>>172527372
>literally every single one of these was made by some mangy pajeet for $2 worth of toilet paper

>>172525542
Pretty good

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>>172527372
>tfw girls loooooove ip theft

>>172525542
Good stuff. I noticed that your plate has a pattern. Don't know how you did it but in case you need a pattern tool for various things in the future here is a "snowflake" tool I found linked by some japanese artist on twitter some time ago (he used it for making a pattern on panties):
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=10209230

>>172501590
Is it lamu?

>>172512210
If only there were some way to post anonymously on this forum so that a famous person could post without being targeted by shitposters.

>>172513917
Mainstream doesn't use the word roguelite, it's only us nerds that care enough to tell the difference.
Also it being called "survival roguelike" is a pretty good indicator that it was meant for real time roguelites with survival elements rather than traditional roguelikes.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/375950/

>tfw huge blue market in gardening games
>agdg will never make one

>>172528610
I started making a harvest moon-like recently.

>1 follow youtube tutorials about just making game
>2 series is either unfinished or just shitty in general
>3 didnt learn anything
>3.5 REEEE
>4 have to write all the code again since it was so shit even beginner could make it better
>5 atleast now i know something after all that bugfixing and googling errors and got FREE sprites for my gaem

tell me anons why do everyone keep repeating that part 2? those tutorial series about making polished game is always unfinished and the code is shit and i bet 99% of them doesn't even know what they are doing, just copying some sample code from some book which is open in second monitor.

to me who just wants to make games for my own enjoyment, i best learn when i can repeat someones doings while they explain and then experience that "ooooh thats how this works" -moment.

>>172528610
>there will never be a full 'Creatures 2' tier plant genetic gardening game
>You will never create a race of super plants that convert 100% of the atmosphere and convert it into cyanide gas
>You will never genetically engineer Triffids

;_;

>>172528947
you could be the first
I believe in you

>>172528610
By the time I finish the market will be saturated and I will have spent years making a game I don't find as fun as a platformer

>>172528610
>blue market
what did he mean by this?