/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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First for Cash money bandit

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second for doc

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>constantly put on teams with low levels
>against high level players and/or smurfs
>have to tryhard / carry team in order to win

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>>172450282
Lots of Docs are ex-TF2 and whenever they needed to heal in that game they would just hit 2+M1 in the span of .01 seconds to give them a little bit of HP and go back to minding their business

There's plenty of horror stories of ex-Medics straight up executing their teammates because Doc's healing gadget isn't his secondary

>>172450639
Join the Ts

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>on favela
>playing Bandit
>get wall banged because favela is gay
>dbno
>crawling across the map to get revived
>doc sees me
>pulls out syringe and stims himself
>"doc what are you doing"
>"sorry anon, I forgot you have to left click"
>tries again but misses
>"sorry anon, hold still"
>gets popped from across map
>bleed out

Why? Why are Docs either colossal stim-hoarding cocks or disabled morons?

>>172451030
How do you hit someone's head with a weapon THAT FUCKING JUMPS AROUND LIKE GIANT SIZED VIBRATOR WITH OVERCLOCKED MOTOR

>>172451746
new players/tryhard "ill do it myself" faggotrons. I've seen someone hit mmb to shoot as well.

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9th for sakuya

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>>172451792
Have you considered burst firing?

>>172451746
Low TTK in this game means Doc attracts shitters who thinks healing would be OP despite the fact headshots exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVZ8fql5do

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Can we discuss headshots for a while?

I find that almost every death I have in this game is because of a headshot. I'm sure that many of them were well deserved or what-not, but a lot of the time, it seems as if my killer is being rewarded out of shear luck. His spray pattern just happened to hitscan my head at the right time. The kill wasn't a product of his skill or his intuition, but simply because he got lucky.

I have, more than once now, been killed through a wall with a headshot because the enemy team randomly sprayed the room I was in. I'm not really sure if that's fair.

I guess, I'm not really sure if I'm making the case that headshots shouldn't be insta-kills, but I wonder if the game would be better or more tactical if the fear of an insta-death was removed. I think that headshots should probably still be important, maybe putting you in the DBNO state or just doing a ton of damage.

Discuss please.

>>172452416
Of course I did. Doesn't help at all since the very first shot already has atrocious recoil, and it only gets worse.

>>172453462
Are you using the acog? It isn't really a precision weapon because of it's recoil. I would stick with a reflex sight or eotech simply because the gun excels when you use it up close to pie corners.

>>172452495
Doesn't the fact that headshots killing in one hit from anything mean the damage and firerate of a weapon is secondary to it's stability? It makes me think that using shotguns is just a bad idea compared to any automatic weapon

>>172453423

i agree , every hero should have atleast 200 or 300 hp and an escape skill like teleport moves to back out from a dangerous fight.

>>172453423
>lucky

stopped reading

>>172453778
Shotguns can be extremely powerful though. They're the only gun that can compete with SMGs or high ROF weapons in close quarters. If you're using them defensively from an ambush spot, you will win almost every fight as long as you get the first shot off.

>>172453678
Acog is out of question of course, I'm playing with that green tiny triangle which I put on everything that doesnt have an acog. Still cant hit shit. I'll probably give up and return to FN FAL, at least it actually shoots where I point it.

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>>172453868

The P9 needs some sort of buff to be considered used at all
>inb4 why use sidearm
Montange exists.

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>>172452194

>>172453423
>Discuss please.
stopped reading right there

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>>172454152
Stop bullying me!

>>172454250
Yes I usually stop reading at the very last words of a post too anon.

If you wanna save even more time then you could consider stoppping at "can we discuss headshots" since from there on out its probably gonna summarize to "I think they're stupid because I can't aim".

>>172453943
They're good if the enemy is moving or you can get em in a spot where the whole body is exposed. They're shit in every other situation though.

>>172454152
I don't know why they are even tracking the accuracy in this kind of game. Or do all the bullets you shoot at walls and drones don't count?

>>172454817
They do, it's a relatively useless stat.

>>172454817
>FPS
>accuracy not counting
is this the shittery of /r6g/ I hear of

>just lost a game because throwing a drone instantly brings up the smartphone and there is nothing you can do about it
do these fuckers even play their own fucking game

>>172455193
???

>>172455193
>drone cam immediately exits out after setup while my drone is being chased
>whip out phone
>static
this happens so often. there should just be an option to disable it.

>>172455149
It's not AS important as in most shooters.
Prefiring, making holes and shooting shrough walls contributes to a good playstyle while that contradicts your accuracy.

>>172455149
>accuracy
>in a game where everyone just sprays hoping to be the first lucky one to hit the head
Really an important stat

>>172455193
>Let's make the attackers even stronger
>Who cares about balance
I'm glad you fuckers aren't in charge of balancing

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>>172455193

There's three problems with droning in this game that they better fix with season 2.

1. At the end of prep phase droning, you're automatically booted from your drone, leaving you to the mercy of whoever might be chasing it. They should just replace that automatic boot with a large red text that comes on screen telling you that prep phase is over (if they're really scared of retards not knowing when prep phase is over).

2. If you throw out a drone when your other drone is already out, the other drone gets deleted. Simple fix for this one: quit being retarded and make it to where the other drone doesn't get deleted upon a second drone being thrown out. Make them work like Twitch's drones.

3. That you instantly bring up drone cam when you throw out a drone. 6 should be default release of drone. 5 should be drone cam (which automatically goes to whatever drone you threw out most recently).

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>>172456041

>make a beautiful escape with a twitch drone after popping some bandit wires
>round ends, try to pop back in immediately
>static

this is the worst feeling

also a small pet peeve but when your drone is muted, i'd like if you hit 7 to select your spawn you dont have to hear the mute noise, shit triggers me.

>>172456041
>>172456320
just leave the goddamn area a bit sooner than 2 seconds before the prep phase ends, its not that hard

>>172456041
>the other drone gets deleted
This is literally intentional
>Attackers potentially getting a total of 10 drones scattered around the map
>/r6g/ in charge of balancing

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Whats the current list of shiny/reflective skins?

>>172456506
>>172455656
t. ubisoft defense force

>>172456041
Absolutely fucking this. I wonder why this obvious shit is not in the game in the first place, how retarded a man must be to make these mechanics, I shall never know.

>>172456602
Not an argument

>>172456971

Please do explain how those would make attackers overpowered.

>>172456041

Pretty much. Ubisoft is just retarded like that. Fix obvious drone issues? Nah. Let's give Glaz a thermal scope.

>>172456506
>attackers can in no way pick up their first drones and still have all ten
>NO WE ARE NOT RETARDED THIS IS TOTALLY INTENTED AND BALANCE

>>172457268
>forcing people to use drones in a systemic manner and encourages the use of drones hidden from the defenders
>instead just have 9 drones laying around the map and constantly skirting through the room, adding upon the mountain of things that defenders have to keep constant supervision on

Also: Attackers throwing a drone then instantly snapping to cams adds to the risk of droning in a hostile environment, which makes the use of a drone near combat or an objective room an actual decision that requires team support for cover or a decent spot away from a potential rush from the defender(s).
Man what a wonderful idea, keep 'em comin.

>>172457446
>Being this fucking retarded
>Picking up your first drone to save it ≠ having your first drone hidden and stationary on a second floor while you drone ahead with your second drone
>Support mode gets even stronger with 10 hidden drones around the map for callouts

>>172457268
Already did on one of your points, kid
>>172456506

What are some good spots to shoot through the floor as a defender? I'm kind of new and never see those holes in the ceiling as an attacker.

>>172457838
>>172458038

You must be a real shit defender if you consider that to be overpowered.

>>172458232
You're a shit attacker if you need even more intel dominance over defenders.

>>172458212
>not always taking the high ground as attacker

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>>172458232
>10 simultaneous attacker drones is okay
>Devs had to cut back on 1 of Valkyrie's cameras because they thought 4 cameras were too strong and that she was a must pick for defenders

>>172457838
>Attackers throwing a drone then instantly snapping to cams adds to the risk of droning in a hostile environment
No, it's simply a developer's oversight which would have been fixed back in alpha if we had a decent developer team.

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>tfw playing against hackers who don't even try to hide it

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>>172457838
>>172457884
>>172458038

Sorry, bud. These ideas have already been suggested to Epi hundreds of times on reddit as well in the past couple of weeks or so, to which he's responded positively. I would bet $100 that they get added in for season 2. ACOG on the SMG-11 was also something that was hugely hated by reddit, which ultimately led to its removal. If something is vastly popular on reddit, the idea gets implemented sooner or later, that's how this game works.

>>172458232
Having ten placeable and adjustable cameras every round when the defenders have 5-8 fixed cams then having to use Valk for more, doesn't seem all that sensible.

>>172458424

t. jaeger main

>>172458616
Then why can't those fuckers whine about actual problems instead of writing fucking 'lord' on tachanka's shield

>>172458616

wow, thank god for reddit for once

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>>172458616
>These ideas have already been suggested to Epi hundreds of times on reddit as well in the past couple of weeks or so, to which he's responded positively

>>172458891

You really think I'm going to search through his post history just to prove to some anon that it's real? The dude posts at least 15 times every hour. Look through it yourself.

>>172458616
>smg-11 acog
>tachanka lord shield
>rook mine elite meme

holy fuck you're right.

I'm betting Blitz gets buffed in season 2 as well. So at least there's that.

>>172459046
Obviously. Why the fuck would you bother saying something in the first place if you aren't going to post proof?

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>>172459318

Because I know it's true. Just because I don't have a fucking snippet of the post in question doesn't mean it isn't true. Like I said, if you really want to find it yourself, look through his post history. I think it was shortly after the release of the mid-season reinforcements. Or maybe search the subreddit for topics concerning drone improvements or buffs (not advisable, though, since there's a lot of useless garbage that gets posted there that'll clutter results if the search even works properly). You'll find out it's true come season 2's release, anyways. Screencap this if you want.

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>buy r6 starter edition a few days ago
>find this general
>DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION
shit

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>>172458616

I'm fairly sure that they're going to implement changes to drones, for sure, but I also guarantee most gameplay changes will be overshadowed by the retarded loot box system they're going to add in season 2.

>>172460273
>loot box system

what

>>172460020
you're fucked big time lad

t. starterfag

WHY ARE PEOPLE WITH A LEVEL LOWER THAN 20 ALLOWED TO JOIN SOMEONE ELSE'S RANKED GAME JESUS CHRISY KEEP THEM OUT

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>>172460020
>finds the general
>first thing he posts is mc-jammies
this is either very pleasant bait or good taste.

>>172461101

I'm pretty sure it's the same fag who created the picture who's constantly re-posting it.

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>>172459668
>Look through epi's posts
>Find nothing about drones
>Google 'rainbow six siege reddit second drone disappear'
>Get results
>Even redditors are saying having 10 total drones at the same time is retarded and unbalanced

>>172458616

tbqh i don't think the drone changes are really necessary but i would also bet they get added in season 2. reddit's pretty much the main hub for the devs.

>>172461212
>Someone creates good oc
>"Im gonna post it till it's annoying"
ye sounds about reddit.

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>>172458616

So you're telling me reddit will be useful for once? Sounds like a nice change of pace.

Rainbow Six: Siege is a shit game.

Just dropped by to say that. Bye.

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>>172450160
They really need to add cone fire, make the headshot hitbox only count for 2x or 3x damage or harder recoil to the guns in this shit, the lack of recoil due to the easy cheap attachments make every engagement a spray random fest rather than a player outskilling the other.

It just gets so boring that basically every gun sub 800ROF is pointless to use.

There should be more reliance on accurate bursting and single tapping. Why the hell do the weapons even have burst and single fire options anyway? It seems redundant when you are just as accurate spraying while in ads.

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>>172462132

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Is there any way to "upgrade" from Starter edition to Complete?

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>>172462132
Why aren't we discussing if this is an application instead of a game yet?
A game challenges the user to reach their objective while an application just offers it.

You just have to click on their heads lmao xD

>>172462132

I agree.

>defense is just four 3 speeds + rook

getting real old

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>they rq next round

>>172462635
buy base ops for dosh goy

>suddenly start doing well with Blitz
What the fuck happened?

>>172463958
Don't worry, it won't last for long

>>172463958
Enjoy it while you can.

>>172464189
I don't get instakilled through my shield anymore and am actually in the upper half of the scoreboard.
I sure hope it's going to last. I've been at the bottom of the scoreboard for far too long.

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>>172461101
>>172461212
>>172461832

>>172463958
I've been doing good with him too, weird huh? You do shit for a few days and then you git gud for awhile.

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we're pretty close to being done.

remember images should be sized so that they're around 66 X 149 pixels.

>>172465546
It's magical. I used to get get sniped through my shield facing them at max range, but now I seem to be successfully tanking at close range.

Maybe it's because I play him less like a bitch and more confident now (sometimes overconfident which also get's me killed after a good start in the round).

>>172465759
In all honesty I find it best to just break barriers an attack from them, then make sure it's clear to step in and slowly seek the other defenders out, it usually works for me.

>>172466000
Had a lot of fun bullying Caveira with him tonight.
Man, she tried so hard to surprise me, but it never worked.
I fucking hate that bitch on any other operator.

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>>172452194
top tier choice

>>172466149
Bullying cavs with the flash is always fun, desu.

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>MVP
>flawless victory
>your opponents were all silver 4 and bronze 1

way to take my good feelings away

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>2-3 defeat
>close games
>Dabbb.oN.EmmM.HoSs: EZ

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>>172460020
>>172461101
>>172461212
>>172461832
sigh, what have I created?
>>172465431
thanks for reposting this anon

i just bought this on xbox and can say without a doubt these casual lobby players, on average, are worse at videogames than unranked lobby players in any other shooter made. and the hayseed concentration is incredibly high. it's like 3 out of 4 people.

i was farming terrorist hunt to get stuff and learn maps but it was all totally unnecessary.

but no joke i'm sure you guys are on pc with this, but take your map knowledge to xbox and i think you will probably never die in the casual lobbies. it is like they are all blind and deaf.

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I've finished the first version of shotgun spread rankings. For each ranking I include all shotguns within 5% spread area of the first in rank, which are pretty much identical and wouldn't make sense to rank them as better than one another. I also included rankings of hipfire to ADS difference, using the same grouping method. Even though you should be using ADS with shotguns all the time, this is still useful to know if you're the type of player to peek fast around a corner while hipfiring.

There's a few notable pieces of data in this:
The Supernova has the worst spread out of all pump actions (excluding ITA-12S) and has comparably shitty spread to that of semi-autos.
The Skeleton Key (with a laser) gets as tight of a spread when using ADS as most pump actions, but still has a harsh damage dropoff.
The SPAS-15 and SASG-12 have decently tight hipfire spread and are also the two that benefit the least from using ADS. In the case of the SPAS-15, it suits Caveira's playstyle as she's 3 speed and can make use of quick peeking at close range without being slowed by ADS.
The SG-SQB is an all around good shotgun with the best performance in hipfire and ADS spread, as well as having only a small penalty for hipfiring in case of panic situations.
If you're doing an M870 recruit rush or came back from AFK on defense, you shouldn't be hipfiring.

I would have liked to attach the damage ratings to each shotgun and find out a damage per area, but since every shotgun has different damage dropoff ranges which are unknown, this would be exceedingly hard to test. In the future I'll be including the actual screenshots of the spreads as well as a separate table for every shotgun without a laser sight.

I'll also be continuing tests on kill distances in about an hour, so keep an eye out for the post if you'd like to help.

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>Emi-grenades can destroy emi-emitters

>>172465431
>>172467367

the "oc" is a lazy ms paint image based off of another lazy ms paint image

it's shit

>weekly shotgun and GSG9 challenge
>hey why not, lets try Bandit with the M870 with laser and reflex
>proceed to make a quadkill in the first round and fill the shotgun challenge in that single match (ranked plat 2)
Wew. Guess I should be choosing it more often in maps that allow it. I like using shotguns but I always end up with SMGs for that versatility.
But holy hell downing or instakilling with a single shot inside 10 meters is strong.

>>172468271
I don't really care about all that scientific mumbo jumbo, but I appreciate your hard work anon. You madman

>>172468271
One more thing I forgot to add, I tested the effects of irons vs. 1x sights and vertical grips on and off of the SG-CQB and SASG-12. They all had no effect on the shotgun's spread, contrary to the bullshit that videos on youtube had claimed.

>>172468271
Interesting and useful stuff. Thanks for all your hard work so far.

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>>172466509

I enjoy destroying shitters. It's fun. I'd like to think I made them quit the game and never play again.

>>172465431
>implying that proves you aren't reposting your own shit over and over

Just finished the ranked and I am on Bronze 1. Am I doing good, lads?
Also spawn killing is a fucking cancer.

>>172468529
very true anon, but I think everyone knows that. Besides, that's why I made that post in the first place.

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>>172468910

>>172469017
you're doing great bro

>>172468271
You're doing gods work anon

>>172468529

agreed

>>172469017

you're doing terribly.

>>172468369
We don't have EMI grenades. We have EMP grenades which destroy EMI emitters.

>>172468271
>the spas15 has a tighter spread than the supernova in hipfire
supernova BTFO

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>>172468369
>*wireless signal jammer cannot prevent non-signal based pre-activated devices

Case in point:
Ash breaching grenades ignore Mute jammers because they're timed explosives and not wireless activated.

>>172468271
So is it safe to assume that you should always use a laser with shotguns?

>>172469798
What the fuck was ubishit thinking? Its used by a fatty 3 speed and its contending on attack against a great rifle.
Surely you'd make it one of the best so you could consider it for more than interior decorating? You know like GIGN fatties have a great shotgun?
Although why do 3 speed defenders have the best shotgun in the game?

Do they just not care about making pump shotties consistent?

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>>172470158
>china
how can amerifats even compete

>>172470272
Of course. And on pistols too

done forever with buck. sledge is just far better.

shoot a fucking wall three times loud as fuck and then get blasted by someone barely exposed because your weapon is too fucked to hit them

fuck buck and fuck every motherfucker who told me he was a better version of sledge

>>172470919
This.

>>172470919
If you can't safely make holes, then switching to sledge won't help you much. Not to mention that sledge is at far greater risk when breaching than buck.

>>172471098
This.

>>172470919
If only Bucks rifle didn't have such utterly horrible recoil.

>>172470919
>>172470961
>tfw both FAL users are basically so-so.

I JUST WANTED ONE MORE GAME besides MW2 WHERE MY RAIFU IS GOOD!

Is there any chrome-ish skin besides platinum?

>>172470712

um, aren't hong kong and china two completely different things?

don't people in hong kong hate people in china?

>>172471318
How about..I don't know..You look in the skin list? Just a thought

How in the fuck do you fix the error where you can't connect with a friend?

We have port forwarded and everything and Ubi support is completely fucking useless, anyone else here fix it and would be able to tell me how?

>>172471241
IIRC Insurgency has FN FAL and its pretty good there

>>172471098
i know bro but i'm not seeing any way to make safe holes with buck because of his noise. sledge isn't great but it's just one and you can move.

i feel like buck trades range and safety for stealth and that's not at all what you want on a flanking character

i don't know bro. i spent a week telling myself "well if i can master this weapon it's nothing but a better sledge"

like gutting it and fuck me i can't fucking make it happen

>>172468271
It's a shame you didn't either test them all with lasers or work out if lasers have a standardized effect on spread.

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>>172467805
I solo queued into casual today as well, been playing it on the one since the betas, it's almost always like this
I played with a hue kid today, they are something else
>hues have xbox now
>been on for 10 years, then all of a sudden brazilians everywhere

>>172471805
All of them are tested with laser sights except when specified. I'm doing exactly what you're suggesting at a later date.

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>>172471412
They are, and they mostly do, the people on /vg/ wouldn't know a dick from a pussy if it slapped them in the face though

>>172471719
I'm usually asking my teammates to shoot at walls just to create noise and mask my gunshots, but you rarely need that much stealth. If there is silence, they will hear sledge as well, if there is a firefight, then your shotty will go unnoticed most of the time. I'm not discouraging you from trying sledge, I'm just saying that your expectations from this switch will probably not be met.

>>172471412
it's part of china

>>172468271
I really apprecaite the science, but:

-Use units for "spread area". Are those metric, or in-game units? Also, what distance are you getting that spread at? If you could put something like "diameter of shot spread (cm) / distance from target (m)", that'd be ideal. Or, label it "Spread area at 10 meters" or whatever distance you took measurements at.

-If you're ranking results, you should explain what the ranking means. The category is "Hipfire / ADS Spread," so I may think being #1 means "most spread," and the SG-CQB has the biggest spread pattern of all shotguns, making it a poor choice. Your image isn't going to be shared everywhere with the text of this post explaining it's the opposite. I could read the data and see it actually the smallest spread numbers (again, unitless, so we're assuming small numbers are good), but if I have to double check the data to make sense of the ranking system why bother ranking them? Just label it "Least Hipfire Spread" or append a disclaimer, "Ordered best to worst," or something similar.

>>172471412
yeah, but it's because they're a national embarrassment.

Is it a stupid idea to buy white/brightly colored headgear?

>>172472928
in my experience it doesn't make a difference when most people use acogs and if they can see your head brightly colored or not you're fucked

might make a difference versus shitters but they'll just pick glaz most of the time anyways

>elite twitch

best waifu

>>172472928
no this is what tom clancy would have wanted

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>>172471412
>hong kuck

>smartphone got stolen
>steam ask for the authenticator code when i try to login
>cant because again smartphone got stolen
>use the account on my browser, try to delete the authenticator, and use my email instead
>system wants to send me a text message to the fucking smartphone that i dont have anymore in order to do so

i just want to play siege man

>>172473320
I bought overlord, how many spins did clancy do?

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>>172472286
These were all from screenshots taken at 8m after 20 rounds. I then opened an image editor and selected a perfect circle around the spread to include all of the centre of each hole, which gives me an area in pixels to work with.

I'm not yet finished with this, once it's finalized I'll be including all of the explanatory info for each table as well as dressing it up a little bit. Thanks for the suggestions.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BOARD THE HELICOPTER

>>172473531
>falling for the steam meme
Uplay masterrace reporting in

So what are the odds one of the HK operators have a ballistic mask

I was under the impression they chose HK to be a pseudo representation of China-Taiwan because choosing either pisses the other off

>>172473531
I don't get why they act introducing a whole new layer (tied to a particular physical device) for you to get locked out of your account is a benefit for users.

>>172473531
Is it burger thing not to be able to keep the same number when getting a replacement simcard?

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>>172472928
>>172473320
>>172473793
WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET MEME HEADGEAR???????

>>172474120
no bro you can do this

your provider just wants some cash

>>172474235

>implying we don't already

>>172474235
hopefully never

again, they have the IP and tom clancy is taking a dirt nap

he gave them some basic guidelines for making money off his worm food. no playable terrorists and please god no clown masks

oh

>>172474235
How bad do you want this to go?

Let's do headgears that are Halloween masks of each the operators, so you can wear the face of someone else while operating.

>>172474279
Hahahahaha USA fucking cucked by unbridled capitalism yet again

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If a Destiny 2 can happen, how naive would you have to be to believe a Siege 2 won't happen in the next year or so?

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>>172465719
DOES
IT
FOR
FREE

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/62a670/shotgun_spread_stats_adshipfire/
what the fuck reddit.

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>>172474463
WE CAN GO FURTHER

>>172474589
Still got some life in this one

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>>172474468
>the ISP's can now sell our info and shit

>>172474235
man at least overkill doesn't own this game

shit could be worse

>>172474595
Wow, I'm appalled, that's pretty fast thievery.

>>172474589

Very.

>>172474595
unpaid ubisoft interns

if you want to post something there, think twice

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>>172474841
oh believe me, it could be MUCH worse

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>>172474595
Nah fuck Reddit I'm calling them out.

>>172474761
The real funny thing was you thinking your data wasn't being sold in the first place, and hasn't been for decades

>>172474595
you guys done with the testing btw? cause I'm willing to help if you need it

Any of you nignogs on xbox want to play casual at 9:30 est?

I'm drunk and new and my friend is very new but we are 2.5-3 kd cod beasts and would like a couple casual games with at least one real boy who knows which walls to open up

>>172474761
The US is the laughing stock of the free world bro. I feel so sorry for my friends from the land of burgers. Beautiful country, shitty politics.

>>172474761
>now

The US Congress passed a bill yesterday, repealing a decision from October 2016, which would not have taken effect until the end of 2017.

>>172475202
>2.5-3 kd cod beasts

Thinking this is relevant at all proves how you don't have the slightest clue on what makes this game great. Patience and character will be rewarded though. Good luck bro

>>172474595
already reported him

>>172474595
Not even the decency to keep the watermark.

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>>172475264
>yfw you realize the only countries in the world don't have paid maternity leave are:

>Papua New Guinea
>United States of America

>>172475924
Just because it isnt required by the government doesnt mean you dont get it.

never claimed to

what i was obviously trying to communicate is that we have a foundation in shooters. cod requires awareness to a slightly-lesser degree if you forget team comps and gadgets, and gun skill to a higher degree.

"relevant at all"

come on, man. that's implying there aren't transferable skills. my best guess is that cod isn't nearly as arcadey as you think it is. no fps will be so vastly-different from another that a player couldn't have a clue why the game is great.

>>172475924

>giving money to an employee that isn't doing anything

this is why your economies are in flames europe

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>>172475924
>paying for months of labor
>without any labor being done
gee sounds a lot like a liability

>>172476054
Because the people that would need it most are the most likely to be in positions good enough to give it to them, right?

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AR33 or L85 for thatcher?

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who get

hibana is off limits

>>172476231
ar33 faster fire rate and almost identical damage

>>172475924
What? So what do people do in the US?
Corporations fuck americans so hard and they think it's a good thing because I AINT NO SOSHULIST

Stay dumb america

>>172476249

Hibana

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>>172474761
>>172475924
you shillary supporters are so fucking stupid i swear. you have no idea what is actually happening but are bitching about it anyway.

>>172476231
The L85 is objectively superior, sadly. Won't find someone serious using the AR33 unless they're dicking around

>>172476325
I don't know anyone that doesn't get paid maternity leave.
I know all government jobs do and all the factories that my friends work for have it

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>>172475264
>Biggest military force the world has ever seen, plenty orders of magnitude above the next military powers, bigger than the top ones combined
>They cut basically every other area of the budget including the Environmental Protection Agency, infrastructure, education, science and research, social programs like "Meals on Wheels", insurance, etc etc, absolutely cucking their own citizens in every way imaginable
>The only things that get extra funding are the military industrial complex, on the already biggest military force in the history of humankind
>Giving out positions in government to people who worked with defense contractors like they're candy

Really gets my noggin' joggin'.

>>172476397

trumpanzee please

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>>172476447
>Americans with the military card
pathetic

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>>172476325

>you employ 40 people, 20 men and 20 women because of your shitty forced diversity laws
>4 of the women get pregnant in a year
>you are now paying 10% of your workforce to do literally nothing for a few months

>>172476447
Be a bit more grateful, eurocuck. We basically pay for your military.

>>172476447
There is no need to invest in economics if you can simply invest in your army and plunder those who invested in economics.

>>172476602
did you even read that post?

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>>172474761
>will live my entire life in this shitty country because of family and inability to find another country to go to

Germany, UK, France, and Canada don't look that much brighter.

How's Finnland? Dead serious

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>>172476602
americans brag about their military all the time but

>>172476408
explain

>>172476249
hibana

>>172476323
>>172476408
Now im confused

>>172476249
>one of the best operators is off limits

explain yourself, cuck

>>172476620
It's harder to say for your employee to say "Screw you, I'm quitting" when they need to buy diapers for little Billy.

>>172476751

>moving to socialist countries

east asia is the only place to go.

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>>172476102
>US wants to foster relationships
>doesn't actually do anything

>>172476620
I think our healthcare covers a bunch of the cost though.

>>172476830
ar33 faster fire rate for 3 damage less, better recoil plus you can get an angled grip and also since the fire rate is faster that means a faster ttk

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>>172476447
>>172476602
>>172476773
>>172477034
I'm really hoping we just pull out and let Russians invade you degenerates. You actually do nothing for us.

>>172476249
>no hibana
why not tho

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Hey /r6g/, I'm continuing work finding maximum ranges for consistent 1 shot downs on 1, 2, and 3 armor operators + rook armor if applicable. A video of the final results will be made out of it eventually, and I'm hoping this will provide useful information for others using shotguns, or at least provide ammunition for shitposting when the subject of the best shotgun gets brought up in the future.

As a test subject, all you have to do is pick a recruit (which one will be specified) stand against the end of a hallway in Coastline and be completely still until you're shot.

It'll be a ton of boring and repetitive testing, but if anyone would like to drop in to help out for any amount of time, you can either join the co-op games room in the teamspeak, add CrabWisdom on uplay, or look for ShotgunAnalysis in the custom game list. You don't have to talk if you join TS, you can relax and watch things on a second monitor if you want, it's just an easy way to get organized.

Here's a look at the data so far. Testing the SASG-12 but hopefully have more than one person available to test Rook armor. If you have any questions about this project, please feel free to ask.

As for >>172474595, it was only a matter of time until reddit stole it, but I'll have the last laugh.

>>172475182
Now would be a good time to get in TS or add me.

>>172477142
>TS
do I have to? whats your uplay?

>>172476408
Oh fuck off. I use AR33 in diamond all the time. Dunno even why but I do better with it

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>>172476639
>Let's play "world police" while our infrastructure back home rots and decays, we scrap all environmental regulations, we strangle funding on science, research, and education

How is this something to be proud about?

You guys got played hook line and sinker by a guy that said he wasn't going to be doing nation building or fight unnecessary wars, and he's the one cutting EVERYTHING to increase military spending and continue fighting unnecessary wars and smashing a record in drone strikes/airstrikes in his first month alone

And I'm not even european, but you can think that if it makes you feel better

>>172476931
>>172477101
I play in a stack with a guy who exclusively picks her and plays like shit with anything else

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>tfw first ever 1v5 clutch
>on a map you've played on 3 times at most
Feels fucking great man.

>>172477316
get buck or sledge u fag

>frost
>cap
>cav
>or one of the spain skins so I'd get the "we done fucked up" blue nebula skin

I've got 30k

>>172477297
He claimed to want to pull out of NATO, which would save us a shitload. It would also throw you cucks into a high level panic as the red menace slowly encroaches on your smelly shithole.

>>172477396

frost

>>172477193
CrabWisdom

I don't know if I'll get your friend request because Uplay is garbage, you can also look in the custom games list for it.

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Am I just high or are there orange and black digital camo for Jackal

I swear by god I've seen it once or twice before but I can't find it anywhere in the store or unlock section

>>172477575
firing it up, ill send you a request in less than a minute

>>172477142
Put the watermark in the middle of the picture and make it a bit transparent

>>172477752
its a season pass outfit

>>172477889
Shit

Is there a compilation of S1 pass skins or shit out there? I really wish somebody had compiled the shit that was available on the wiki because I can't find anything on info in this store

>>172477142
Giant, red watermark going diagonally all the way across the picture
Quentin style

this might be the best videogame ever made

>>172478418
I agree. Best game to this day. A modern game that actually changed the industry. A new game that actually brings something new. Siege is truly a masterpiece.

>>172477571
Done.

How do I pimp her out?
I'm guessing the STEN is better than the shotgun even with the low fire rate?

>>172478017
All you really need to know is the SAT ones are pretty based and that you'll never get them.

>>172477575
>>172477781
Not sure if you deleted the request by accident or Uplay cucked me again. did you get the request?

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>>172477523
Guy doesn't even understand how NATO works.

He's painting it like NATO countries are paying the US to protect them. It's not a transaction, it's a treaty. The US and all countries decide how much they want to spend on defense.

They committed in the treaty to spend 2% of their GDP on it. Currently, 5 out of 28 do. The remaining ones are increasing their defense spending. None of these funds are paid to the US, which is a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of Trump. Europe does need to spend more on defense, but not as a favor or payment to the US, but to bolster NATO's forces. Keeping Europe free, as always, has been in the US' interest.

>B-but d-daddy trump said he wanted to pull out of NATO, that means he'll totally do it, r-right?

>>172477297
>>172476447
Pic related.

I want Siege talk not military political bullshit. Also Caveira is shit tier

>>172478727
>Don't want to be world police anymore
>Build 11 carriers

FAST JOGGIN

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>playing casual with my buddy
>we get matched with three other guys
>win game, no one backs out
>end up playing for three hours in the same squad, winning most of our games
>cracking jokes and kicking ass the whole way
I haven't felt this way in a while.

>>172478601
Arctic universal skin on her C1, Black Ice headgear.
Angled grip is a must, extended barrel is optional due to a negligible damage increase at long range.

>>172478715
I got the request after I restarted Uplay, but I'm going to restart it again. You should do the same.

>>172478841
My synapses are going off like fireworks right now.

>>172477142
>want to help
>on ps4

>>172478727
If you honestly think that NATO is not 100% US controlled you need to get your head checked. US could pull out right now and nobody could do jack about it.
>>B-but d-daddy trump said he wanted to pull out of NATO, that means he'll totally do it, r-right?
Shillary sure as hell wouldn't want to re-negotiate. I voted for the next best option. A person who said they would.

>>172478991
The capability to pull out of something does not constitute control, knucklehead

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>>172478418
>two of my favorite multiplayer games of the recent years have been under ubisoft's belt
>can't even tell who else I'd want besides them to run the show because everyone else is more competent at screwing us over
>siege barely survived, for honor in critical condition and they're trying to run it like siege
>can't tell if ubi's actually getting better or if everyone's getting worse because for everything they do right they make sure to do something wrong

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i want communist cucknadians, europoors and shillary supporters to leave the thread so we can go back to talking about siege.

>>172478589

in terms of the overall demand/input/stimulation,yeah this is the best gave ever

first-person with audio that means something, thinkin' y'all, fps gun skill, team-play with essential comms, and the ability to solo-carry*

*this removes overwatch, etc from consideration

boys i dont even give a flying fuck i think this might be the best game ever

>>172478991
>I voted for the next best option

And look at what your decision wrought upon your own nation. Just look at that chart.
>>172478727

You basically cucked yourselves in every department just to INCREASE military spending and nation building, it's actually hilarious

>>172479196
What you're describing is CS too

>>172478727
>>172478991
>also 50 billion
>compared to 650 billion in NATO spending
wew
>>172479096
When you are roughly 70% of an organization, the ability to pull out is full control.

>>172479107
You hat's the deal with for honor?
I don't even know what the game is about

>>172479107
im with you. but give for honor another month, and in reflection you will realize that it had nothing for you at all. it was just fresh and seemingly-competitive and seemingly-deep.

>>172479107

>For Honor,Rainbow 6 Siege, and Titanfall 2 are the only games im playing
>2 of the 3 games are in almost ded mode

>>172479357
I meant to say "what's the deal" but somehow it got autocorrected into that stuff

>>172479350
>He thinks 50 extra fucking billion dollars siphoned directly from all those departments and areas of government is no big deal

>>172479225
>changes happen within a matter of months
just wait. also nice source on that chart, asshole.

>>172479357

You ever had that argument as a kid where who would win in a fight between all of histories greatest warriors.

thats for honor

>>172479357
lag teleporting with swords

>>172479529
Gotta compete with the other countries that actually matter. Especially one that Obama also put us on bad terms with.

>>172479578
>>172479602

Yeah but what's the problem with the way Ubi is managing it?

>>172479421

>but give for honor another month, and in reflection you will realize that it had nothing for you at all. it was just fresh and seemingly-competitive and seemingly-deep.

Nigga I thought for honor would be trash and fucking over 100 hours later its my second most played ubisoft game in a while

I dont know why I love its just fun

>>172479278
yes

but there's something about ads

i have been drinking a lot of liquor so i can't crystallize this, but there is something with the ads and the handling of weapons and firing into ads that adds something

>>172479529
Don't underestimate the wealth of the US. We're a lot bigger than your little island.

>>172479693
They're not

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>>172479693

Instead of making 2 currencies the game uses one and you can buy that currency

it has P2P which works in 1v1 and 2v2 modes but not its 4v4 modes

balance issues out the ass

>>172479357
it dropped in playercount majorly, as far as I can tell it's up to the playerbase to keep it alive for ubi to either drop it or drag it out of the mess like siege

p2p, hyper defensive meta, lack of variety in characters that are viable, few maps, and major balance issues between characters who fit even better with the hyper defensive meta

thing is, ubi wants to manage it like siege with seasons and reinforcements but the game needs major attention ASAP to retain a playerbase which has now dropped to 4k, that's manageable for a game that only goes to 4v4 but it's still dropping

still got a 100 hours out of it, i'm glad that if it dies i got to play it while it was still fun

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>>172479541
https://www.theatlas.com/charts/BksqWMuie
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/03/daily-chart-11
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-budget/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/the-concrete-cost-of-trump-military-budget/518193/
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/visual-guide-winners-losers-trump-s-budget-n734386
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-presidential-budget-2018-proposal/

>inb4 fake news

Trump Administration literally released its fucking budget weeks ago you turbonigger, you can just google it you know.

>changes happen within a matter of months
That's why it fucking says "Proposed Changes in 2018"

A good read on what an administration cares about is what they assign money to in their budget. You do the math.

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>>172479693

Its also getting DLC leaks out the ass too

>>172480168
not reading this shit over an internet argument. I'll just settle that the EU is a leech on our budget and we would be better off without NATO

>>172480381
>SOURCE
>gets source
>NOT READING THIS SHIT

Like pottery.

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>>172478727
>muh education
why do retards always play this card. education can only get you so far in life, you also need to have some actual skill and shit. let's say trump dumped 400 billion into education, all that leads to is a bunch of entitled little shits who think they're smart as fuck without having any practical skills whatsoever. you make it sound like the only option is to go to college but maybe the world could use plumbers, electricians, soldiers and other jobs that require skilled workers.

>Enter objective room with enemies above to stop me from capturing it.
>"Hey guys they're all in obj, help me."
>Sit in room for 3 fucking minutes.
>Teammates still across the map.

How do people this retarded manage to get to plat?

>>172480526
>education is useless

P O T T E R Y

>>172480351

where are OUR leaks goddamit?!?

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>>172479929
>>172480056

Ill stick with it atleast

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>>172480381
>I will go to any lengths to avoid things that make me question my world view
wew lad

>>172480526
Do you also believe in cutting scientific research? Who the fuck needs STEM amirite?
Also good luck getting normal people living their daily lives with an infrastructure that gets a grade of fucking D+ from the American Society of Civil Engineers.

>>172454135
>montange[sic] exists
Use the magnums, it's much better

>>172480545
Because the elo system is not personal

>>172480440
>>172480696
I conceded the point, which was the trump budget plan, which had nothing to do with NATO

and eurocucks call us stupid lmao

>>172480526

t. poorly educated

>>172479427
Wildlands is fun

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>>172480618
>>172480696

>i don't need things like road workers, plumbers , electricians, garbage men, and in general jobs that require a lot of physical effort.

i can guarantee you that whatever communist shithole you live in would collapse without those jobs that require workers,

>>172480875
t.whiny millenial

>>172480980
>millennial boogeyman

trumpanzees, everyone

>>172480980
Yes, thats what we need anon

a generation of people largely in primary occupation. With Chinese overlords of course, because you abandoned your secondary and tertiary sectors.

>>172480980
lad...you did read that post didn't you?
How the fuck are you going to get a normal society working with the jobs you described with an infastructure that has a grade of D+?
And actual fucking cities in your country that don't even have access to clean water for years?

>>172481191
not an argument

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what are you guys arguing about

>>172480056
the main idea is the defensive meta. the game attracted a lot of different people due to its aesthetic, but at best it is a basic fighting game. when i say basic i mean it's rock-paper-scissors with reaction-time involved. it is fresh, but it is also shit.

i can't think of a comparison in terms of games that seem deep but aren't. you have to take a step back

>>172481265

Are you implying that you've included arguments in your posts?

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>>172481260
>The US has cities without clean water

what the fuck?
which ones?

https://youtu.be/bFZxo0qWAso

Whoa Whoa Whoa

What the fuck is this?

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>>172481496

>>172481496
probably the ones run by democrats unless hes bullshitting entirely which he probably is

>>172481517
>developed exclusively for mobile devices

>>172481517
>coming soon to smartphones and tablets

Shit is what it is.

>>172481517
>developed exclusively for mobile devices
Dropped

>>172481609
>>172481496
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis
Michigan, Flint is ran by republicans and hasn't had clean water since 2014.
I guess you're gonna have to eat your own words bucko

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Okay /r6g/ your getting a little angry I was saving this for later but it looks like you boys need shit now

I think its time for a little hong kong information

>>172481815

What?

>>172481734
>old piping unintentionally caused lead poisoning and is currently not an issue
literally fucking nothing

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Do sidearms need more attachments?

>>172481815
C-CUTE

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>>172481815

>Tiger girl
>sniper rifle
>Hong Kong SDU are also called flying tigers

What are you trying to convey?

>>172481904
>is currently not an issue

I'd catalogue "Not having clean water for anything" and "getting lead poisoning" as an issue, unless you're a robot or something.

World's greatest country doesn't even have clean water in all its cities lmao

>>172481904
>lead poisoning
>"i-it's literally nothing!"

lmao

>>172481904
>no clean water for years
>have to drink, cook with, and bathe with bottled water that you have to buy, from 2014 til 2020
>not an issue

Jesus christ you're retarded

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>>172481904
>>172481987
>>172482010
>>172482137

>>172481815
>People argue about politics
>posts furry trash to calm people down

I mean I knew you furfags were stupid, but this is advanced stupid

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can we not have this discussion please.

>>172482254
But people are wrong on the internet, anon.

>>172481935
I want handgun reflex sights. They really aren't that uncommon, and if super speshul team rainbow wants to use them, I say let them.

>>172482210

Would that count as furry shit, though?

They're pretty much human except with animal-like ears and a tail.

I thought furry shit was like people with literal dog faces that walked upright with human shaped bodies.

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>>172481935
yes

>>172482318
>deagle becomes usable, spas 12 becomes usable by proxy
pls

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>>172482254
this will keep going as long as the commies are still here.

>fucking save all of europe in ww2
>they now talk shit at us

Anti skub supporters are the worse

>>172482665
>buttblasted about losing an internet argument
>"f-fucking commies"

calm down, lad

>>172482389
A human with animal traits like a tail, ears and coloured fur seems like furry shit to me

The whole "humans that kind of look like animals to various degrees" is all furry shit in my books

>>172482665
Don't worry, just close your eyes and repeat your mantra of "Trump is always right" ten times and the anger will go away. Don't scroll back up to all the people bringing up facts, arguments and figures challenging your world views, that's bad and very likely fake news.

>>172482665
Just ignore them, theyre clearly deluded into thinking the US isnt #1.