/twg/ - Total War General

>I am LE white dwarf

The true reddit faction.

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>final battle against chaos is between two armies full of wounded men

Xth for you guys are my only friends

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KHAZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

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>>172375923
>Prince and Emperor leading his troops to battle

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Tell me about the campaign in any Total War game that you found the most fun, your favorite campaign.

WAR OF V E N G E A N C E

READY AXES

DAWI

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>>172376067
>Karl taking out the first giant personally
How could anyone hate this man?

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Rock the boat!

>>172375618

> addidasnigger so mad about Grail Knights losing to Blood 1v1 he posts this thread starter

Best timeline

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>>172376236
>reiksguard charging in to protect their Emperor

>>172376236

Very progressive to have an LGBT main protagonist imo

>>172376083
Oda on Legendary in S2 was an interesting campaign for me. Especially since it was my first successful campaign and i ended up triggering Realm Divide unknowingly, leading to an absolute bloodbath as i tried to consolidate my lands.

Right now i'm also running a Burgundy campaign in Attila that ended up being quite comfy, had some long time allies and back and forth fighting with the nearby Franks and Caledonians.

Honorary mention to Sciipii in Rome 1 just becase of the sheer time i've spent with them in general.

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>>172375618

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>>172376236
>greatsword leading the frontal assault of the chaos lines, while handgunners eliminate the chaos giant, operator style.

>>172376369
>mad
I do it because of the fact that the elf worshiping cucks are weaker than both bks and cks. And this fact is hilarious to me.

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>>172376691
>Franz smashing up chaos fucking shits

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>>172376868
>demys obliterating chosen on the right flank

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>>172377029
Chaos' frontline collapsed , allowing the main force to engage Archaon

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>>172377203
>Archy-boi is the only one left standing, still smashing fools

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>>172377368
>final showdown between Archy and Karl

>>172375923
>final battles against chaos
>he doesn't care if it's a steamroll

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>>172377516
>aftermath for maximy cheekybreekes

vortex spells are actually pretty awesome now that they slowed down the overcast version.

All they really need is to increase the frequency they rotate to make them just a pinch more reliable and they'd be pretty well balanced.

Dear man-things,

Your warlord, Karl Franz, is very stupid and not very good at backstabbing. Dwarf-things (us) are much better at kill-kill and our breeders are much prettier. You will all squirt the musk of fear once we come down from the hills, led by Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Horned Rat curse his name. The only way to stop us is by leaving as much warpstone as ratmanly possible outside of your sewer entrances in every city. We need this to defeat the most potent of potentates, the most illustrous of illustrouses, Grey Seer Thanquol, Horned Rat bless his great name--you would do well to erect monuments to him lest you incur his wrath. He is incredibly furry, handsome, and has a very long tail.

Sincerely,
Dwarf-things

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Whats an ideal army comp for fighting vamps as empire? I cant decide if swords or spears and shields are better for main line. and obviously crossbows instead of guns, but in general what else do you have in your armies?

>>172377874
I don't think this was written by the Dwarfs.

>>172377670
I should've made screenshots of the 3v3 against warherds of chaos in the forest, which was a fucking clusterfuck. But back then I was more concerned about not loosing.

>>172377682
maximum*

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>>172377874

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>>172377874

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>>172377874

FUKKEN TRAITOROUS BEARDED FUCKS

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

>>172377940

Sword line
Spears on the flank
Xbows need to be microed to focus flying and horros

Pretty straight forward desu, dont even really need cav

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>there are people itt who prefer that golden faggot to based fire master

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OUT OF MY WAY LIVING SHITS

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Post your quickest long-term/ultimate campaign victory.

Outriders seem to have the same ranged damage stats as handgunners so why can't they fucking kill anything?

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>>172378571

>Fucking torch """""wizards""""""

LOL

>>172377940
Swordsmen are the better choice when you're dealing with their infantry. Also bring some helstorm rockets; the sunmaker is especially potent.

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>>172378747
>useless Lore of Heavens shitter thinking he's hot shit
>bashing based Lore of Shadows, Life and Fire

Out with you, peasant.

>>172378747
Whoever made this has patrician taste.

>>172378747
>implying Shadow wizards aren't the most useful because they run and control the Empire's spy network

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>172375618
>tfw i just learned that the seajews den has the same name/named after one of my favourite castles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbork_Castle

i knew their was a reason i felt drawn to take it in the name of The Lady

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THIS FUCKING WIZARD

I think they've done something else alongside the 25% movespeed reduction on overcast vortex spells.

Purple sun used to deal no damage even if it hit right but I've just used it and it routed 5 fucking units at once, killing 200 dudes and letting me bring my dragon ogres through the gate and wreck the rest of their army.

>>172377682
nice write up

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Knights of the Blazing sun...what are they useful for?

Even with mods that make them easier to get, they are worse than all other empire melee cav. reiksgaurd, demigryph, and regular empire knights are all better. i dont get it..

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>>172380718
they're pretty neato looking

>>172380718
They got better stats than Reiksguard, and flaming attacks.

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>>172379389
It's wrong though, shadow wizards are very potent. Decent Buffs, debuffs and a highly effective AOE spell do not an inferior lore of magic make.

>>172380718
It's just a reiksguard unit with flaming damage and slightly better stats.
>they are worse than all other empire melee cav
False
>regular empire knights are all better
bullshit
>reiksgaurd
They have better stats and magic attacks (which makes them weaker against dorfs but stronger aginst welves. Nice ap damage all around tho)
>demigryph
No point even comparing it to demys. Demys are a single best cav unit in the game. Literally.

>>172378747
I like Grey Wizards in Man O' War; the spells to redirect wind and deflect enemy wizard spells are really useful.

I just got the WE dlc. What's a good end game army composition?

>>172381610
Glade lord female + 19 Eagle archers
make + 19 dragons

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>STILL can't pirate W:TW

>>172382070
You can if you have Linux ;)

>>172378571
>remember playing call of warhammer years ago
>knew nothing about warhammer fantasy
>played undead because that's cool I guess
>tried to attack stirland after gathering as many soldiers as I could afford
>they had a unit of bright wizards in their full stack
>the dead do feel fear

>>172382070
>pirating Warhammer

m8 it's been on sale several times already. They did a good job, give them your shekels.

>>172382070
I can understand feeling bad about the large price tag, but it was on Humble Bundle for 12. If you can't cough up a couple of fast food meals, with part of the money going to charity, then maybe you're just a cheapskate.

>>172381610
Orion
1 Spellsinger (Life)
1 Waystalker or Branchwraith (Branchwraiths have a combination of Life and Shadow)
10 Wardancers
4 Wardancers (Asrai Spears)
2 Waywatchers or Wildriders (Shields)
1 Sisters of the Thorn

Warhawk Riders, Great Eagles, Treemen, and Forest Dragons are all good units but I'm stingy with my amber until the Oak of Ages and Technologies are complete.

Keep in mind Orion and Durthu have an amber tax of different units.

Ariel's blessing, Make military alliances with Bretonnia

>>172381064

Demi are the only monstrous cav in the game currently.

>>172383017
I find it kind of bullshit that monstrous cav works so much better than chariots in this game.

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>>172377940
mortars are good for thinning out blobs of zombies/skeletons, if you postion them correctly they can fire at the enemy line from the minimum range and be incredibly accurate. Sunmaker/hellstorm are good to, but can't be used at close range like mortars. Light wizard for the global morale debuff + nets in case you need some help w/ fliers.

>>172383178

Chariot post buff destroy lines, not sure what you're talking about.

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>>172382885
I literally don't have 12 dollars

>>172383335

Net also synergizes well with your artillery, keeping units away from the line so your arty can pound them some more. Really you just need to focus the vamps fliers, their cav, and grave guards other than heros and lords.

>>172380438
the bret patch changed the way vortexes effect lighter units, it used to be they were disproportionately effective vs heavier factions like chaos + dwarfs, which was counter-intuitive.

>>172380718
for the murdering of elves. Pair them with a bright wizard for that global flame weakness as well. They can be useful vs vamps for removing crypt/hex units

>>172383420
then how do you have a pc that can run this fucking game?

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>>172383827
m-my mom gave it to me for christmas
I'm 34

>>172380718
Which mod makes them easier to get?

>>172383937
By Sigmar NO

Why are magic missile spells so fucking useless in this game?

>>172386363
they used to be incredibly strong, to the point where the light wizard was the most effective lord killer in the game. Then CA nerfed them hard. They have actually been improved slightly in the last couple of patches, but they are nowhere near where they once were

>>172386516
I feel like they're only powerful in extremely specific circumstances, and when the terrain allows it.

>>172378743
less units per unit
also think of the outriders like this anon, they can sit on their horses behind your front lines and constantly shoot into the enemy without hitting your troops, as opposed to handgunners who do more damage due to more units, BUT on foot.

>>172383937
are you telling me you couldn't save up 12 big boy bucks in an entire month anon? do chores or some shit or use your autismbux.

>>172386363
they're ok, just really hit & miss.

Gaze of nagash & that lil waaagh spell can both take a huge chunk of a monsters hp out, and most of the time you never miss them.

Sniping lords & heroes with them is way harder though.

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>>172383286
I'll never understand this forced meme.
>>172383937
It's time to get a paper route, anon.

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>tfw you finally get to use your devil archers in a field battle

beautiful

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wish me luck

What really makes a Blessed Trebuchet better than a regular one?

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Anyone else feel that 20 unit armies are too limiting including agents and lords? I actually had the idea that you still have the 20 unit army cap, but agents and lords dont count. Maybe each army has 20 slots for units and a seperate 3-5 slots for agents and the lord,but no more. I feel its kind of lame since the lord automatically takes up one slot, then most armies you want a wizard and maybe something else, so you essentially only have 16-17 unit slots. My armies dont feel diverse enough since I have to cut back on either ranged, cav, or arty if I want any agents in there.

>>172388258
better damage, magic attacks, and I believe the blessed one is more accurate

>>172383937
this is beyond my comprehension

>>172388304
On the contrary, I think 20 unit armies are too big. It allows you to have pretty much everything you could ever need in a stack - 3-4 armor-piercing infantry, a couple arty squads, 3-4 defensive infantry squads, a lord + a wizard, and still have 6 whole squads worth of customization left. I think the squds sohuld be bigger in size (ie an imperial swordsmen squad should be 200 men or so), but there should only be 12 squads in an army, so the unit choices you make are more meaningful.

>>172388771

That's retarded. Shit like a chariot vs a one unit deep line? Would be instantly gone.

>>172388304
I think an interesting twist would be to have, let's say, 30 unit max army size, but also do the Mount & Blade thing where the bigger your army, the slower it goes. That way you could have exciting low unit Elite Strike Force armies as well as a hulking huge Main Army.

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>>172387975
I'm waiting for you anon you spiky little shitstain

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>>172389037
>3 unit large norscan armies raiding your territory
>all marauder horseman so they get the movement speed buff for being an all cav army

>>172389132

BORIS
Is always an asshole that never wants to confed.

>>172389182
Hmmm... yeah that's a bit fucked hey, though they wouldn't get much dosh from their Raidings... but yeah, maybe revise Raiding mechanics? Then again.. in real life that probably happened, Norscans raiding and running for years.

>>172388304
I approve of this idea. One or two "free" hero slots. You can still if you want to have nine vampires stick the other seven in the "main" army pool.

It would almost be like having warhammer army selection rules sort of.

>>172389227
Boris has been a shitshow in my campaign.
>gifts doing fuckall for him
>dislikes anything I do
>after allying with Brettonia so I could take Marienburg without getting cucked by orcs and beastmen, Boris runs straight across the map to start attacking Louen
>as he does this Ostland declares war on Middenland and starts taking over the province

>>172389294

Officers based on your generals level? In-kind skills that you select that give free hero slots? Make it so that stacking officers in an army has negative effects?

>>172389440

Impossible to confed with him because he has a 3 province area meaning he can afford two whole armies which keeps him relatively equal to you in power.

He also never goes to war with anyone hardly, so he rarely loses those armies.

>>172389294
>>172389037

Any way to make this a mod?

>Trying to fight elves as any faction
Fuck this shit
Fuck elves

>>172389590

Then Chaos comes and fuck him right in the boypussy.

Every. Single. TIME.

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>>172389752
creaking intensifies

>>172389752

Hell yea I would fuck an elve any day of the week.

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What have you observed generally happening with each Empire province?

I'd ask the same for Bretonnia, but the dukedoms seem content to not do shit except occasionally fight dwarves or Mousilion. I wish there was a little more wiggle room for them to have infighting.

>>172389968
Middenheim is the least defendable territory in the game. It's long and full of shit you can't see from.

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>>172376083
VH skarsnik, may as well have been legendary as I don't recall savescumming
I immediately took out tree hitler as this was during the blitzkrieg phase of welf campaign AI, and doubled back to take all of karak norn out in a series of ambushes
I used this province to misdirect Belegar and the empire provinces while Skarsnik took off on his own, but I got into a bind around Glacial Lake which resulted in a very close victory, only pulling through with Skarsnik's starting squig hoppers who were unbreakable due to the Bad Moon Banner, managed to chain route the tileans after even skarsnik and the arachnarok scurried off in the underway
After raiding a few turns to rebuild Skarsnik's army, I set off again towards karak 8 peaks, destroying or dodging some mutinous gits while Belegar figured on retaking Karak Norn
This didn't go quite as planned because prior to gaining a foothold in the badlands, I lost all of my settlements and began to suffer attrition, unable to raid in order to avoid the negative attention of Wurrzag, Grimgor, and whoever else I needed to trespass through to get back home
I caught a real break when I managed to make diplomatic contact with the Red Fangs who were reduced to Crooked Fang Fort and perhaps a couple surrounding areas
I snatched them up in confederation quickly and set Gorfang Rotgut to work, clearing out Karak Azul and fighting off Mutinous Gits before the attrition-relieved Skarsnik got there
From Valaya's Sorrow I was able to lure the defending stack at K8P into an underway battle they thought they could win, and wiped them out entirely, taking K8P the next turn
It was great, later went north to fight chaos and the wood elves

>>172390283
good staging grounds to remove norsca from though anon

>>172389458
I reckon that would work better if we could embed heroes in units.I recall that this causes the engine to melt down however.

I'd still really like a couple of extra boxes for heroes to go in. A limit of 2 for most armies except Issy and Belegar's even.
I love for example with the empire having a priest and a Captain or wizard and Witchhunter. It'd be nice to bring more than one or two without gimping my army. You could even require that embedded heroes can't be taken out once inserted to sort of limit it.
>>172389595
I have no idea.

>>172388258
The Fay Enchantress rubbed her feet on it

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has there been any leaks for the new total war?

or is it just waiting for this Friday?

>>172390783
Only thing is that it's been pretty much confirmed to be the Warhammer expansion.

>>172388741
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

>>172390232
Averheim - treasonous cunts
Talabecland, Stirland, Wissenland - bros
Middenland - unpredictable asshole
Ostermark + Ostland - tsundere

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>>172390783
There needs to be lizards.

>>172390070
Poor Durthu... if only there was some tender, daughter-like figure to show him how to love again and soften his oaken heart.

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>>172387975
>>172389132
FUCK YOU BORIS I DID IT

again a single overcasted purple sun got my sorcerer all of his 200 kills and caused 5 units to route.

In fact, if I was smart enough to remember I had Doom & Darkness as well I probably could've caused a mass route there & then and got a heroic victory.

But I fucking forgot.

>>172389182

is that actually a thing?

I feel like that hasn't been a TW thing for many titles

but I'm wrong...often

>>172389752
What's the matter, can't handle their ridiculously tough units anon???

>>172387818

>endless archer/spear/sword stuff
>after centaurs, zombies, griffins, gobbos

Truly I do not know if I can play a history title again,

>>172391475
it is definitely a thing - it was a big part of the franks in AoC, as they have units like mounted swordsmen/archers that are actually infantry units, but still get the campaign movement bonus that cav get to simulate the way the franks used horses to to transport troops

>>172390232
>Averland: absolute madman
I had Marius go to war with me (Belegar) with otherwise positive relations and a trade agreement, march right up to my capital, and then ask for a peace treaty and go home after killing some greenskin rebels that spawned from his raiding
>Stirland
Tends to die early or be reduced to Wurtbad if I don't get over there quickly
>Nordland and Middenland
They seem to fight each other but neither of them want to be friends
>Marienburg
Nothing needs to be said here
>Talabecland
I hate confederating them as the region is a pain and they seem to attract negative attention from their neighbors early on
>Ostermark and Ostland
Never really see them til later in the game despite my trade agreements with Kislev
>Wissenland
Is usually ruins besides Nuln, but I have a tendency to ignore them and rarely if ever manage to confederate them despite the bonuses

>>172391381
good work anon, you sure showed them.

you've still gotta crack tods rock though

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>>172387421
>taytay has perfect feet
>feet enchantress has perfect feet
>tay rhymes with fay

whats not to get?

>>172391726

I might be thinking back to the olden days of R1 where having an Onager or Ballista in your army basically lost you 25% movement,

i remember playing a game and being like "oh,,,I can move the same with or without arty", but I don't remember when

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>>172390070
I need more Wood Elf screenshots.

>>172391791
>I had Marius go to war with me (Belegar) with otherwise positive relations and a trade agreement, march right up to my capital, and then ask for a peace treaty and go home after killing some greenskin rebels that spawned from his raiding

working as intended, accurate to tabletop

>>172376083
Probably the Himyar in Attila. Running a desperate campaign with one army razing the east while the endless sassy horde assaulted Alexandria had a race against time feeling you don't get from most TW games, It was so satisfying finally taking the offensive and cornering those shits.
Special thanks to Baltha Defenders for being the best anvil.

>>172391880
I'm not a footfag but that's an objectively gnarly looking nail on what looks to be a flipper foot and your meme is dumb

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>>172391962
I only have trees

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>>172392365
They're growing on me too.

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>>172392365
U WANT TREE, FUK U

>>172391839
actually I've already razed Middenheim & Nordland to the ground.

I beat the shit out of Kislev and assumed barbarians would take them out but they didn't and started recolonising all the places I razed.

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>>172392476
sarcastic creaking

>>172392992
you've done well anon. yeah your vassalised guys suck

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>>172393252
last pic

>>172391791

I've found how to make Talabecland not worthless. I had them confed by turn 8 on VH. Proceeded to demo the two slots in the capital, and placed reinforced walls and furs. But, a weaving house would have been worth more. The town near reikland turns into an economic powerhouse.

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Post your advanced tactics

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>>172393252
Ungor life is really shit hey
>5am woken up by the Brayherd's carnivorous rooster crowing, and find that two of your friends were taken in the night by who knows what
>6am-8am line up for the Brayherd's one portapotty for Ungors, get slapped by fratboy Gors walking past to their luxurious latrines
>8am-10am get to the mess hall and find all the food's been taken, and the Minotaurs have started eating Ungors again, hide under table until feasting is over
>10am-11am ambushed by Elves and killed

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>>172394630

>tfw ungor

>>172394630
Much like the furries of today.

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>>172394462

>>172394630

so during the massive beastmen orgies do the ungors even get sloppy seconds?

or are they the ones getting fucked?

>>172383335
>almost 9000 enemy troops
>two full units of pistoliers can't break 100 kills between the two of them

>>172395989
they were mostly in reserve that battle, I think those kills were on a black knight that tried to run them down

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Where is Valten?

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>>172396920
He's with Krell now

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

>>172397587
>leaving the general unmolested

Some sort of evil psychological warfare?

>>172397775
I suppose so, fucker just sat back and watched as 6000+ of his men get slaughtered

the fact that wood elf archers can't shoot through trees is a fucking crime and is totally inexcusable.

>>172398047
Joke is on you, he gets off on it.

>>172376083

Beastmen in Warhammer.

I wouldn't have bet a single fucking cent on them

>>172398051
Yeah it's a bit funny if you think about it
>expert Wood Elf archer, has been fingering his bow since he were but a wee laddie
>on the field of battle, defending his home, his country, his Bret Boy Magazine collection
>shoots a tree 10 metres away until he's out of ammo

>just saw a germanic night raider defeat a hunnic devil cav in melee

what the fuck

>>172399445
That's X-COM ba- oh wrong thread

>>172396129
>pistolers
>In reserve
Well yeah they are shit against vamps, but they should have gotten more kills than that shooting at fucking bats.

Speed of battles a mostly shit talent. The rank 3 lets them outrun bats I believe though and dogs.

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I'm going to start a Very Hard dwarves campaign and I've never played with them. Can you guys give me tips about Very Hard difficulty and Dwarves in general?

>>172400578
dwarves are probably the easiest vh faction, your line is still close to unbreakable and greenskins are still shit. be prepared for grimgor to confederate a lot of the badlands very quickly, but so long as those southern dwarfs are still there to distract him you shouldn't have too many problems

>>172396920
got cucked by archaon then decapitated by a literal reddit rat

>>172395570
given the rarity of does they certainly dont partake in straight sex, probably have to fuck each others asses on the outskirts of the party where half of them get eaten by unruly minotaurs/cygors and wild animals

>>172400578
Git stabbed

>>172400578
Gunpowder

>>172376491
Isn't he married?

>>172401817
He has a wife, and and I believe he has a son and daughter. His son might be a mutant, or otherwise a cripple? This is older lore, and I'm fuzzy on if it's him or an Elector Count.

>>172394630
>>172394784

They are also more cowardly than goblins so they pretty much deserve everything they get

>>172394630
serves them right for having so small horns

>>172401921
At least they aren't Bretonnian peasants or gnoblars.

>>172400578
Play legendary, make units, win everything. Dorfs are brainless.

>>172376083
Had a fucking blast doing a Rhun campaign in TATW. Such a fucking fun faction to play as and they did such a great job with the roster considering what limited information they had.
Had quite a lot of fun with a Rohan campaign too, blowing the fuck out of Isengard early then just sending massive cavalry stacks to help Gondor remove orc.
Contrast with my way-too-long Eriador campaign where I struggled for SO LONG with those trash spearmen waiting until I could turn into Arnor but in the end I just got bored and gave up since I had BTFO everything around me anyway. Only thing that made it fun was the rangers, those guys are legendary.

ded

>>172404991
I'm glad it's over

>>172404991
Let it rest for now
Its rebirth will begin soon

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>>172405038
>less than 3 days before the announcement

Strap yourselves in.

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING Knights in Warhammer have wrists of steel

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G O B L I N S

>>172401915
One version it was his nephew, typical Middenheim propaganda.

>>172401817
Considering the time period Warhammer takes inspiration from you can assume all named human characters are married unless outright stated otherwise.

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>tfw haven't played Warhammer in over a month because the combat is so fucking shallow

don't think new races is gonna save it for me... doubting any huge mechanics are coming, this game is catered to retards

Do beastmen have orgies? Do they rape each other, the breeding does or human women? This is impirtant.

>>172401817
Married to the dick maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9i4XK8DZM

What Mannfred was up to before returning to Drakenhof.

>>172405769
Why?

>>172405849
Because I need to know what the beastmen do to the defenceless women once they raze a settlement on the campaign map.

>>172406092
nigga where the fuck do you think they get all the +growth from razing a settlement?

growing your horde has little to do with feeding them, they'll eat each other

they need something- or someone to make the beastmen

>>172405769
What is more beastly and savage than the act of rape? Nothing.
>Do they rape each other
Yes
>the breeding does
Yes
>human women
Yes
>the trees
Yes
>the very ground itself
Yes

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Duuuuuuude!
Whoever said rectangle formation for TW:W is a genius. The AI is retarded and even with flanking units it doesn't matter.
Who the hell cares if 2 of my units get a shit ton of friendly fire. I'd lose way more in an honest fight! And look at that. They didn't even go to half health with fucking hellstorm rockets hitting their backs.

>>172406567
You forgot goats.

>>172406567
What happens if a Beastmen horde sack a Tomb Kings settlement?

>>172377874
fucking Dwarfs man, I warned you about them.

They are in league with those perfidious fishmen, and I bet the leprechaums are behind it all.

>>172407069
Boners.

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>Go back and reinstall Empire
>Put Darth Mod over it because I can't be fucked finding other mods
>Play as French, Spanish or Dutch
>Go out of my way to secure the West African trade theatres
>The game gives you a bunch of shit about the resources running through that area, but let's be honest: You're trading slaves... And making a shitload off of it.
>tfw

>>172407097
Fuck

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>>172407097

>>172406923

>wins against a bunch of skellies
>Led by Ghorst
>controlled by AI
>In probably easy mode
>this hyped

Yeah whatever kid

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>>172406923
You're welcome
>deleted whole screenshot folder by accident
>only have thumbnails left
Fug.

>>172407501
>7 greatskele's with that few kills
He would have lost that fight if he did a normal line formation.

>>172407717
Can you post the rectangle strat again? I missed it.

SOURCE FILM MAKER MODELS WHEN.

>>172407816
>4 reiksguard and 8 (eight) artillery units weakening them before hitting the line
how much work do you think greatsword skellies do anon?

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>>172408296
We finally have a spiritual successor to the noob box, now with more explosions and vaguely looking like a vagina.

>>172407501
I'm on normal.
This is still my first real campaign (first one past turn 30).
I don't know shit about other faction's rosters. I see vampires I see scary monsters. I don't really know how they stack up against the Empire and what crazy magic they have. I don't even know how necromancy works in this game. How they raise troops or keep them going and heal them in battle.
My army could be better. This was basically my test of empire artillery. For example I don't have any handgunners, could probably either switch the great cannons for hellstorms or mortars for more cannons.
>>172408402
I must be using reiksguard wrong since my army is pretty static and I usually let the enemy come to me so my cavalry is usually doing other cavalry fights or I just forget about them while I'm watching enemies explode. I still can't get over how great this game sounds and looks.
I know. Hammer and anvil, but fuck. You don't even have to micro with artillery. And this is the first TW I've played where artillery isn't shit.

>>172408454
I'm pretty sure the AI can handle this

>>172408402
They do a lot, but go try the same battle out yourself and see if you can stay below 156 loses with lines

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>fight a battle as Bretonnia vs. Mousilion
>quicksaving faggot trying it over a few times, but it's a challenging fight since it's a blessed trebuchet, yeomen archers, and one unit of foot squires against a bunch of skeles and zombies that overwhelm by sheer numbers (my army was 'inherited' by confederating Lyonnesse)
>due to a little AI retardation and some decent micro, realize that I can distract the enemy necromancer so that half his force is out of range, so I can crumble them when they close to melee
>even after he gets in range, manage to keep crumbling, send my Prophetess in there to fuck shit up and keep spamming her only spell, Awakening of the Wood
>by some sort of miracle end up getting all the skeles and zombies to crumble and die
>just prophetess and necromancer
>she wimps out due to all the health she lost, leaving the necromancer the only survivor

She didn't even get to live - she died because she had retreated from an earlier battle.

>>172408541
i'm not saying you would lose less men with lines anon, i really doubt you'd lose the battle with them though

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>>172408454
I should iterate.
My arty wasn't on the sides. It was on the bottom, winging out from the sides.
So the 2 mortars would be belor the troops, hellstorms behind those, volley guns on the close side of the troops and cannons on the wing end.
Yes, the formation was literally a dick entering a vagina.
Reiksgard behind them just in case.

>>172408540
As long as you keep the arty far away from the enemy, they wont go for it. But it does have to be a considerable distance.

Been playing Attila for a bit, haven't really gotten in to it until now. I've see people complain about impact damage being crazy and demolishing spearmen but i haven't noticed that much so far, at least not when braced/spearwall (playing on Legendary). Is it mostly the higher level cavalry that's broken or is it just in regards to non-braced infantry?

>>172408454
I think that would really work best with melee heavy armies - notice that the other guy was fighting against Vampire Counts, and had cavalry to counter what little cavalry they had.

I don't think this would do well with an enemy with a strong archer presence, strong cavalry, or like most Northmen armies are, marauder horsemen and chariots. The AI is stupid, but it's not dumb enough to refuse to flank when it has units that can do such.

The traditional noob box also has an added benefit of being able to be reinforced, if you can get a second rank in there (where I tend to put my swordsmen and halberders, personally). If something starts getting overwhelmed, you can throw more troops in. The new thing looks like you have to hope that the enemy doesn't eat away too quickly at your units.

>>172409148
God. I would have no idea what to do for chariots.
Are they unarmored? Maybe crossbows. Artillery wouldn't do a fucking thing unless the volleyguns are good at hitting them.

>>172409074
Its most noticeable w/ unbraced units, units that don't have access to mass-increasing formations like shield/spear-wall, and any melee inf.

>>172409148
You can rank a rectangle too anon-san

This all being said the best formation is still lines with gaps which arty shoots through and lords in the middle to stop units getting past. Keeping everything close is just safer.

>>172409324
>Are they unarmored
Of course they are armoured. You need dedicated non-infantry anti-large units to take them down. Anti-large cav, monsters and so on.

>>172408962

Bullshit, any cavalry would charge the arty

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>>172409074
>>172409390
pic related - frontally charging a scout equites (light melee cav) into a palatina guard (heavy melee inf)

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How do I avoid having to redownload the entire fucking game again on my SSD each time it updates?

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>>172409861
You do not.

>>172409074
>>172409782
and here steppe mounted tribespeople (very light) vs the same palatina guard

>>172410052

Very coo pic anon

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>>172410052
forgot pic

>>172409861
W-what?
This is happening?

>>172409783
>>172410157
Well shit, guess i need to be careful with enemy cav. So far i've managed to blunt most charges with wardogs and braces but my fellow barbars haven't really fielded tons of them anyway.
Guess i'm in for some shit when the Huns come knocking.

How many more days until THE day?

>>172410349
Its most noticeable with factions that bring lots of shock cav, as the ai enjoys frontally charging their shock cav suicidally w/o support, which can really fuck your shit up. Huns are a completely different kind of nightmare

>>172410539
https://comingsoon.totalwar.com/

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>>172394462

>>172383937
just conjure it up then.

>>172409861
You call gay ben and ask him to fix his shit

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Fellow Dawi, I fucked up.
I thought I'd lure the filthy elgi into the underway for an easy victory, but I massively underestimated the scum. The speed and ferocity of their wild riders and eagles and I chose a fucking awful spot for the battle. My thunderers and cannons couldn't get a good shot and I didn't have enough ironbreakers to protect them.
To their credit, every infantryman and thunderer fought to the last, none routed off the map and my irondrakes especially held back the filthy knife ears surprisingly well.
Still, many good dawi lost their lives because I McFucked up.
Time to take the slayer oath I guess

>>172411067

What the ever loving fuck is up with your lord portrait? Custom?

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>>172410737
>comparing millions years of evolution to a combination of 1s and 0s that was made by rolling one's face on a keyboard.

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Can somebody please explain the follower gained shit at the start of your new turn?
Let's use the scribe for example. Can I only have 1 for all of my lords? Like if Franz has it can Gelt not have it? Because it says I've gotten a dozen scribes by now and it says they're ready for action and when I look under any lord it's the same leftover bullshit. Useless banners, and army vision range and ambush defense bullshit. No campaign movement from scribe. This is especially infuriating when it has to deal with money as I'd like to assign them to my asshole in Altdorf sitting and collecting taxes.

>>172411186
Yeah, guildmaster engineer from the All Tabletop Lords mod.
Well I guess he's a Daemon Slayer lord now lmao

>>172411212
you can swap followers/banners around on the lord screen anon,they're in a common pool for all your lords.

>>172411067
>take the slayer oath

Do it. Put him in a stack of nineteen Slayers and drive blindly towards the biggest, scariest opponent you can think of.

Let him die a Slayer's death.

>>172411360
Why then do I see this guy pop up so much if they're in a common pool? I've had a scribe on Franz since, like, turn 10.

>>172391791
>Averland
Madmans that declare war and sue for peace a bit after. Once undead start attacking they hold their own for a while.
>Stirland
Gets eaten by either Averland or Vlad or Mannlet
>Nordland
Takes the coast from Ostland, often goes to war with Marrienburg
>Middenland
Does nothing except go to war with Marrienburg if I am not Empire. If I am Empire, they won't confed for days so I just kill Boris off fast
>Hochland
Does nothing or dies to Ostland or on a rare occassion, Kislev
>Talabecland
Dies to Ostland
>Ostland
Usually loses the coastal city to Nordland and the eastern fort to Kislev, but takes over Talabecland, keeps it's capital and more often than not, takes over Hochland
>Ostermark
Is the main target of Talabeclands army when it goes to war with it with Ostland.
Either loses its capital to Talab which is then taken over by Ostland or Kislev and bunkers down in Essen or it losses Essen to undead and bunkers down in its capital.
>Wissenland
Gets reduced to Nuln quite fast and confederated down the road pretty fast.

>Marrienburg
Had to separate it since when I'm Empire, it dies first. If i am Brettonian, it does first. If I am not near, more often than not they develope into a 2-3 province regional power.

>>172411791
Shit. I'm looking now and apparently I have more than 1.
Nevermind. I don't know how I was missing this.

>>172411791
because you can get multiple of them, if the lord has empty follower/banner slots they'll fill them before going into that pool.

>>172390232
>>172391791
>>172411835

In my latest run, Skarsnik, Marrienburg conquered Altdorf and was on their way to to conquering Middenland as well. That money they generate so early on gives them credit.

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>>172405769

The Beastmen females rape all the human males while the Beastmen stand awkardly to the side and watch.

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>>172412109
Beastwoman here, can confirm.

What's the best thing to use vs dorfs when playing as Orion. I was wondering about just going for mass of Wild Riders with shields and having a constant charge on their line with some retreating and some charging in,

Any thoughts?

>>172412293
waywatchers for ap missiles that aren't mitigated by the magic resist, wildwood rangers/eternal guard for ap, wild riders for the murdering of ranged units

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>those odds

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>>172412678
>?

Not worth the risk anon. Best to retreat and live to fight another day.

>>172412678
Fear the camel

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>>172375618
Why da stunties so tasty?

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>>172412678
I honestly have no idea why I made this

>>172412516
So basically, just go ap in every possible way. I was wondering, are eagles worth the amber if they could fuck over dawi artilery?

>>172413632
I don't get it

>>172413632
that feels man

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>>172413632
Hahaha, fucking 10/10.
I kinda want to play AoE again but im scared its aged badky.

>>172378747
Which one would you be, if you had the choice?

I would personally choose to be a light wizard.

>>172413708
yes - they can also fuck up gyros if needed to

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>>172413632
>Age of Empires was 100 years ago

>>172413759
AoE1 still holds a special place in my heart and has the best music in the franchise, but stuff like pathfinding and control limitations are frustrating.

AoE2 is still gold.

>>172413632
I laughed out loud, well done anon.

>>172413759
you can still play great AoE2 multiplayer. the hd version has some great new campaigns too. AoE2 is probably one of the greatest games of all time.

>>172413759
I still play the new DLC campaigns. The new developers are doing such a good job. Especially the Vietnam campaign is so much fun.

>>172414029
>AoM is one of my favorite childhood games.
>see new DLC for it
>Too scared to try it since the reviews are terrible

feels bad man

>>172413759
I played some LAN AoE2 a couple of years ago when the first new dlc came out and it was pretty good.
But i meant the original, I'll probably pirate it and see how it holds up.

>>172414076
all three DLCs have Very Positive reviews on steam

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Does anyone have house rules for firearms in wfrp 2nd ed? im finding them underwhelming, im thinking
1.pistols do not suffer close range penalty
2.pistols and handguns have armor piercing quality
3.loading powder and bullet into paper charges reduces reloading by a half action
Is this too op? what are your thoughts?

>>172413759
It hasn't, anon. The campaigns still feel as fresh as they did eighteen years ago.

We may not age gracefully, but good games do.

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>>172414804
post it in the tg thread anon, you won't find your answers here

>>172414804
Wrong thread, friend.

>>172414804
>>>/tg/warhammer

>>172414804
motherfucker wrong thread, anyone have thoughts anyways?

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>>172414307
They do?

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Wanted to share a list of mods that have given me a refreshingly new experience on the campaign map, I thought i'd share the list with you guys if you were looking for something new without getting the shittier parts of overhaul mods like SFO

>Large cities have more building slots, meaning it's possible to support more than 2-3 unit buildings per province, improving army diversity.

>Greenskins aren't as prone to losing the Badlands Bowl, and with the settle anywhere addition they can actually come up and threaten human lands

>Norscan income cut dramatically, which in turn limits the number of full stacks they can field. Nordland doesn't get blown the fuck out as a result

>Chaos doesn't beeline for the player faction, instead wars more intelligently, with more armies to play with this makes them a better threat

>>172376083
wurttemmberg empire

>>172415260
got anything for combat? Its the only reason I use SFO, game doesn't feel right been so fast and arcadey

>>172415572

I don't mind the vanilla combat, but i'm sure there's some good ones out there.

>>172398392
>cent
i get it :3

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Fuck franks

>only remaining settlements are the Balearic Islands, corsica, and sardinia
>armies are shock cav

Where are they getting the horses?

also

>francisca units can throw their axes while disembarking from their naval transports

fucking horrifying

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>>172415791
*half shock cav

also here is where most of the fighting took place

>>172415869
Damn, it's like Normandy.

>less than 2 days
Boy I cant wait until the announcement, and then the crushing realization it isnt coming out for months and months and months and FUCKING MONTHS

>>172415260
Really excited to try the Capital Overhaul on my next game, hoping it makes AI minors more resilient overall
Is AI Campaign Rebalance a proper rebalance or one of the dozens of AI "overhauls" which just slightly adjusts some of the values in the AI priorities table?
Are there any mods which give other factions the Wood Elf Outposts mechanic? That could make things interesting...

>>172417110
The only thing you really need to make the AI stop being a bunch of morons is the increase capital size and tier 4 settlements

AI actually starts recruiting its top tier units that away, although its still pretty retarded about it.

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>>172383937
>>172385194
Top Kek

>>172416531
But it's 2 days and 3 hours

>>172417434

For you

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>>172417434
Uh, no?

>>172377874

I bet the greenskins would fall for this

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>>172392189
Wikifeet disagrees
https://www.wikifeet.com/Taylor_Swift

>>172417531
Mine says 2 days 12 hours.

>>172417631
I did not need to know that this exists.

>>172417723
Australia wins again!

Dont worry cunt ill tell you all about the release when it comes

>>172417434
>>172417531
>>172417723
Region specific release times are one kind of retardation, but region specific release of teasers?

Holy shit dude, that's fucking extra dumb

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>>172394462
9000 hours worth of painting skills

>>172417823
It might not actually be that the release will be different based on region, but just that the timer is programmed to use the machine's clock without regard for time zone.

Pretty easy mistake to make when programming these kinds of things.

>>172418184
Classic Web Dev ;D

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>>172417794
Can confirm

>>172418363
Is Total War Access worth it?

>>172418184
A pretty forgivable mistake too. Date and timezones are the devil.

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>>172418363

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>>172418184
>>172418319
Maybe CA just don't give a shit about non-English players who live outside of GMT? Pretty based desu.

>>172418490
nothing

>>172418653
It's literally just that.
Every company of importance uses CET now but CA still uses GMT

>>172418653
I looked at the source code and I believe the time its set to is Friday 31st March 2017 at 4:15 PM

<time class="warstrap-countdown" datetime="2017-03-31 16:15:00">

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>>172418490
Don't know, haven't signed up. Bretonnia had already released early when I was going to, so never bothered.
>>172418363
>no funny meme tabs
Anon

>>172419150
New Zealand time??

>>172419150
Friday 31st March 2017 at 4:15 PM

>>172418653
Old Friend??

>>172419150
So the actual release is 4:15pm Friday GMT. What happens if you put the time & date forward on your computer?

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What would be the most disappointing Old Friend reveal?

>>172419634
Anything that isn't Morgan Bernhardt

>>172417775
justhow.nu.ru

>>172419634

Krell

>>172419634
Helman Ghorst Snr.

>>172419725
I have somehow managed to avoid that all this time, and I wish I could have kept doing it. The iCarly wiki was bad enough.

>>172419634
another Vampire LL...


red duke campaign would be nice tho

>>172419763
kekd

>>172419634
I honestly don't know, I'd be somewhat excited with any new, free shit in WH

>>172419634
Old Friend is you, a player of Total War Warhammer

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>gaul used the roman ability to levy uar warriors while my horde was in their region'

neato

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2 DAYS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>172381478
The magic in that game is fairly retarded desu. Why can light wizards turn people into skellies.

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>>172420613
shoulda stayed with the horde

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>>172421540
I miss body carpets, feels like it's a lot harder to get a respectable one going in Warham.

Ludwig Schwarzhelm
Taurox
Krell
And even Grombrindel should be legendary heroes like the Green Knight I don't understand why that isn't a category.

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TRUE RULER OF 8PEAKS DESU

>>172391257
There was, once.

She and all her kind were poisoned over the long years from playful forest spirits into malicious sadists little better than daemons.

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>>172421910

>>172419634
I would be dissanpointed if it will be just another LL without any faction with it.

Seriously, just unlock Middenheim and Mouissilon for the campiagn.

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>>172421672
its due to the much smaller battle size in warham

>>172422183
See the mountain over there?

>>172422425
Shut up Todd.