/parag/ - Paragon General

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>Face the wind

>when you have 50-60 IPs in the thread but if you personally are not babysitting it at all times it dies
can someone other than me check on the thread every now and then
I have to sleep and shit you know

You fags let it die overnight AGAIN? Get to bumping amerifats

Anyway, any guesses about new hero abilities? Considering she uses a voodoo doll I guess we can count on some marking or stacks mechanic.

>>172326425
I monitor it as well since we made the first one and bump whenever it reaches page 10, it usually dies early when I'm asleep. And once when I really didn't have time to look after it.

>>172326425
I make the threads. I check as well but I was exercising and then when I came back it died. Didn't want to make one at night since it would've died again while I slept. I know people are awake tho

>>172326440
I'm hoping for her being heavily based on lifesteal, kind of like Fiddlesticks from LoL. I think that would be pretty cool.

Who is the best ranged character in the game currently?

>>172328792
You mean casters or ADC senpai?

Why should someone play this game over LoL/Dota2?

>>172329105
those games are bad and this one is good

>>172329105
It's fun and since it's still quite new there is less stuff you have to learn and keep track of. Also the behind-the-back view just feels much better and more natural for me, especially since unlike Smite Paragon actually makes use of verticality. And apart for that it's simply nice to have an alternative, I play DotA as well.

Blink Charm in a Twinblast deck y/n?

>>172329105
I prefer this game because top-down and heavy clicking is shit.

>>172332856
Blink is always useful, it just depends if you're willing to spend 5 points worth of upgrades on it.

>>172326425
I'm usually bumping the thread and shitposting to start conversation, I'm convinced that we're all in the same time zone though.

>>172332856
Do you like taking dirt naps?

Consider Blinkshot instead.

>>172326440
poison based abilities

>>172334023
oh boy I can finally use all those cards that do some small insignificant thing when it's 5AM on the second thursday of the month and you're poisoned but only if you have 30-55% hp

>>172336419
I really hope they make poison cards viable with this hero at least. Right now its the most useless effect in game

So I just started playing this game, what's the best way to get good cards? Should I buy the cards with rep or coast on freebies? Either way I break down the ones I dont use for the ones I want right?

Also is this one of those games where PC shits on PS4 because mouse precision or can console players do proper work?

>>172339667
On early levels you should get tonnes of cards as rewards, so unless you know you need one specific card for your deck I would wait with crafting and focus on getting cards as free rewards or from weekly tasks and card packs.

I don't really know, but I heard that accuracy difference isn't really that large, at least outside of highest leagues. I have a friend playing on ps4 and he's doing pretty damn great most of the time.

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Now that you can easily make your own tier list, lets post em up boys

>>172332902
this

>>172339667
After playing for a while, you'll be getting cards like crazy, doesn't take too long to get all the cards considering you can craft them, buy weekly packs and they give em out like candy
I've seen some good PS4 players as well as some really bad PC players, I don't think it really matters
The only thing you can get away with if you're on PC against a player using controller is circle strafing but if the player had decent aim and some sense, it doesn't really happen

>>172329813
>>172332902
>>172342972
This to be honest. The top down view is standard for mobas only because the genre started as a Warcraft mod, behind the back perspective really makes much more sense and feels much better for a game where you control only a single character. Is Smite worth trying?

>>172341124
>>172343157

Alright, thanks.

Last question - when making a deck what's the point of putting in upgrades by themselves? Aren't the upgrades all linked to the main card?

>>172343761
Basically to give you more alternatives in upgrades you'll be taking during the match. It's not really needed and not many people use it, but can be slightly useful if you can do quick math during the match and not fuck your deck cost up

>>172341994
Good list.
Move Steel up to B, Kwang up to A and Grim down to C and you got a perfect list.

Anybody got tips for playing mid?
I've only played mid a couple times in Monolith and every time that I do, I actually get anxiety because I feel like I'm constantly being hunted down.

>>172344846
-Ward. Always
-Try to get river buffs
-Co-operate with your jungler, unless he's some random shitter who can't into teamwork
-Gank offlane if your offlaner needs help and you can afford leaving the lane for a while

>>172344846
You are. Its the most important position. Get wards IMMEDIATELY whether they be a dummy ward or whatever. Ward river buffs cause that's where the jungler is likely to come gank your ass.

If there's a retard mashing autoattack just let him do it. He'll push the wave and come to your tower. It makes it way safer for you.

In other games, mid is expected to react to and execute ganks but mid is so tiny in Paragon that if you leave your lane for more than like 10s the wave will be on your tower. Try to gank anyway and always call missing.

If you want to get aggressive put a ward in their primary jungle camp (like the one where the green buff is) that way you and your teammates will have eyes on their jungler and when you think you're strong enough to kill it quickly you can run in there in and snatch it, reducing the diveability (lol) of their jungler. They won't think to ward their own jungle (or deward) until they realize what's going on and most people don't.

Don't even bother picking outside of Howie and Belica right now unless they already picked a mid that isn't either of those because the meta is trash. I hate meta slaving myself but its just a headache landing against those two.

Anyone wants to play right now?

I want to play right now

>>172345170
>>172345821
I just played a game of Gadget and applied this but still got my ass whooped. I guess I need to keep practicing and probably not play Gadget or something, lesson learned...

>>172346335
Sure

what the hell are you guys doing

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>tfw working instead of playing Paragon
I DON'T WANNA WORK JUST WANNA BANG ON MY DRUM ALL DAY

someone actually remade the gen? I thought we were finnish that time

>that one fucking guy who wants to attack orb prime all the time

>>172353832
And the best one is
>they go to solo OP without team, without vision of enemies
>enemy team comes down on them like a hammer, taking a free kill + prime

I just played a game with a Sevarog so bad that you might call it friendly fire. The dude ult'd the enemy Belica and Murdock to our lone Sparrow, killing her instantly.

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>>172353084
Yeah why not

>>172355376
Hahaha that shit kills me. As someone who plays Sevarog a lot, seeing a bad Sevarog is just the funniest shit ever.

>>172360842
I like this

>>172363975
>playstation
get out

>>172363975
Where can I get this?

>>172364882
>PC
Cuck

hello

>>172365063
it's just a gold dualshock with a decal on it

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>>172344783
>Move Steel up to B
The huge nerf to his ult really hurt, but Thermo-bond and Divine Shield make Steel almost worthless. He wasn't used at all during the last PCL and for good reason. He's horrible right now.

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>tfw you can only carry games as Greystone

>>172341994
>Aurora down to C
"no"

>>172370069
Aurora is nowhere near as dangerous as she used to be because of her nerf and the Toxi-gel rework.

>>172326440
Final piece of Dark Souls content released, expect things to be slower.

>>172371675
kingdom hearts and mass effect just released and persona 5 comes out next week. we're not gonna make it.

>>172341994
why is gristone SS?

>>172377418
because he is impossible to kill

if you're silver and below

I really don't understand how this game isn't more popular.

>>172382072
Because like all mobas it takes a lot to get in to and understand

>>172382072
>>172382498
Also they don't advertise at all

>>172341994
t. Silver elo

>>172326402

>Braaaaaaap
>Face the wind ;)

>>172329105

This

>>172329813

Not only the view putting me 'in the action' better, but also that I'm new to PC gaming and hate clicking to move. WASD allows me to press the button and immediately move and then stop moving when I unpress it. Whereas with a mouse, if I click too far away, my character will keep walking there unless I click again closer. I am not deft enough with keyboard + m to be able to do all that as well as manage the MOBA mechanics.

Additionally, everytime I try DOTA2 or LoL, I feel so behind like the entire community knows way more about the game and I have to learn all the items, all the mechanics, what heroes are and aren't shit.

With Paragon, I am a part of the game as it's growing, so I learn as it comes rather than being handed a huge pile of information and having to cram it all. There were few enough heroes when I started last summer that I was able to learn the basics of all of them, now when one gets released every 3 weeks, I have those 3 weeks to learn them as well and not fall behind.

>Rampage hits the enemy with a rock
>oh I guess we'll initiate
>hit up the stunned enemy while another enemy approaches, no problem
>Rampage walks toward the stunned enemy but backs off and leaves me dry
>die
fucking thanks, the guy let them cc the crap out of me in my own jungle
he was literally sitting there watching me get my ass whooped

Bleed damage happens all the time but I never get poisoned....

>>172329813
how similar is paragon to dota2? i kind of want to play that game but know nothing

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>take a break from a moba (in this case paragon)
>get into a game
>feel nervous that I lost my skills and will suck
>end 15/0 and win

Anybody know these feels?
>>172390179
because poison so far are only actives that nobody is going to use
Funny how they introduced blight, really kills the Rampage.

wish they would come out with another tank-like fighter character
I feel like we're only gonna be seeing mages and rangers on repeat for a couple months

>>172393157
That sort of ended with crunch, to be quite honest they threw out a whole bunch of tank fighters in the beginning
who knows maybe we'll get some sort of tanky adc

Someone can explain how the cards work? not deck building but how you the cards are added in you.

>>172396834
you slide card down asscrack and activate

>>172395895
>tanky adc
Is that actually a thing? I've never seen a tanky adc in a moba, seems like an oxymoron
isn't the whole point of an adc to not be tanky?
or are you talking about something like Greystone where he's tanky but could deal a lot of damage too? Like a bruiser?
I'm honestly confused here

>>172399542
>I've never seen a tanky adc in a moba
Graves
League of Legends

>>172400018
hmm okay I've played league and I've played Graves but I didn't play long enough to know how the game works
how does he differ from other adcs (aside from his kit) and what makes him tanky? Is he able to hit as hard as other adcs?

I hope this thread lasts through the night

>>172400479
>what makes him tanky?
his passives give him armor/MR
>Is he able to hit as hard as other adcs?
Yes, gimmick is he has to reload but that makes the few shots he has and all his abilities hit like a truck

He also has a dash and a blind/slow
it was very troublesome that they had to nerf

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>>172400492
So do I , I'm tired of waking up and finding thread archived

>>172391169
Paragon to Dota? Very different. I mean, basic moba rules still apply, but the game is MUCH more tactical with not only more than thrice as many heroes but also much more factors you have to keep track of. Lots of unique and powerful actives, denying, day and night cycle, more things going on around the map, etc. You obviously don't have to know all this stuff when you just start and can do fairly well without it, but if you meet someone who can actually use all this to his advantage they will probably obliterate you, skill ceiling is really high and snowball effect is very strong. If you feed your enemy too much it is not uncommon for him to be able to take down your whole team alone.

However, learning all this stuff and actually doing good feels as satisfying as nowhere.

>>172396834
>but how you the cards are added in you
Anon could you repeat the question using proper English? Do you mean how do you get new cards?

I rarely ever see a Narbash player? Should Epic buff him and how?

>>172404452
He's alright but his health regen ability is thrash, if they buffed it so it was mana efficient, he'd be pick more often
don't know about his stun either
he needs more loving desu

Goodnight bump, you better be alive tomorrow /parag/
let a nigga rest

boy I sure do love getting matched with idiots

>>172407581

Play with your friends anon...They do play Paragon right?

>>172407876
>friends
fucking normalfags

>>172407876
I do. That doesn't mean we can control the actions of the other two-three people on the team.

We're able to carry pretty often actually, going on streaks, but every so often you get some people who are just so awful that you cannot hold it together (I.e. what appears to be intentionally feeding from the beginning and/or straight up disconnecting).

Whats with 3 man PC goons shitting up the late night sessions?

>>172406174
Nah his health regen is great especially early game. His stun is the fastest stun in the game and easy enough to land. It's his supposed tank role that needs a buff. My dekker is more of a tank

>>172408313
Then get more of your friends to play. But I know your feel. I miss the times of early open beta when almost everyone I knew played and we could easily make 4 or 5 person teams. Now it usually just me and my roommate and sometimes one other friend at most. But at least we don't need voice chat when we're sitting right next to each other.

>>172409692
I agree with him

>>172406174

It uses way too much mana.

>go to sleep
>have nightmare
>get told I'm going to burn in hell
>huge pressure on my back
>wake up
Guess I'm back to keep bumping. I do not regret not seeing what it was.

>>172411542
I disagree. Doing his heal in bursts does more than enough heal and regen the mana while off with quenching scales which oddly enough I feel like it gives more MR than what it shows. Mana regen + divine shield and toxigel work pretty good. He is just way too squishy for his durability rating. There are tankier hero's that DON'T build any defense

2:12 am here. How about you anon

>>172414219
5:17 am

>>172414219
5:21 am , sorta wish people would webm some more of their plays, never post mine much because it feels like avatarfagging

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>>172414624
>I refuse to "" "avatarfag""""
>I wish more people did

>>172415089
Its like you cant read, its cute

>>172415586
Who cares. You don't even know what avatar fagging is and are insecure on an anonymous image warehouse

>>172414624
you can't even make impressive plays in this game
once you've played every hero 2 or 3 times you've seen everything that's possible to do

>>172415792
That's thr same with every moba. Plays rely on mechanical ability. You're assuming everyone had the same mechanical ability which is incorrect.

>>172415847
I was just telling you why no one posts plays
it's because there aren't any

Last second bump!

>>172416021
I was just explaining to you that there are and that you have no idea what you're talking about

>made a deck for Muriel with nothing but power and attack speed as a joke
>ended game 5-0-2 before the enemy team surrendered

>>172422935
then post one

>>172423232
Damage dealing supports sometimes work, because enemy never expects that, but it's just simply not worth it from team's point of view

>>172423276
Your opinions don't matter so no

>>172426459
>get BTFO
>y-yeah but it's just an OPINION!
the skill ceiling in this game is 1cm above the floor
trying to find big plays in it is like trying to find big plays in tic-tac-toe

>>172427015
Alright then you're telling me you're a challenger player with over 2000 elo
Why isn't everyone else just the same elo?

Fact of the matter is you don't consider anything you see a play, so there's no point in showing you anything. Go back to your clicker mobas

>>172427831
>clicker mobas
oh it's you
can you put on a trip so I can filter

>>172428141
?
So is it your first moba or are you interested in tripfagging now?

>>172428969
neither but i'm not sure how those two things are mutually exclusive

>>172429271
Tjen why did you mention getting a trip and why did you quote the term clicker moba?

Installing smite right now can't wait to use this awesome skin and get some FREE gods.

https://youtu.be/x_xeq9l7DNY

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In 23 hours and 42 minutes the game will reveal Mogresh our hutu voodoo lady

https://twitter.com/Paragon/status/847085940204077060

When are they going to rework Fey? She's garbage.

>>172429449
Stop it, PonPon. Your game is trash.

>>172429449
I know your joking anon, but by posting that video on this general, you made me remember that Paragon is still an amazing game compared to the alternatives...

>>172399542
What the fuck? Then you've literally never played any moba other than like Smite or this one.

In dota if your carry farms correctly and/or is fed hard he can and will tank and solo your entire team. Like Spectre's passive allows her to disperse a percentage of all damage to enemies around her, combine that with lifesteal and high attack speed and...

>Serath
God what a mistake

>>172433146
Serath is good as long as you know when to get into combat and DON'T GO FUCKING LEFT. Why do people do that? She's useless offlane.

>>172433640
>see Serath ganking my lane
>no chance of survival
Is what I mean. Who's bright idea was it to buff this thing. Her early game is ridiculous.

>>172433726
Before buff she wasn't really worth the increased risk to be honest. Now I would say she's rather balanced since you can easily punish her thanks to her squishiness.

>>172433965
Yeah but when she's surrounded by a team its fucking atrocious. Aurora Serath combo is rage inducing

What heroes do you guys think they should nerf?
I believe they need to nerf Yin, Countess, Lt. Belica, Sevarog, Howitzer, Rampage and Muriel.
Not just a little either, a significant change to their kit.

>>172434660
>I am bad at the game: the post

>>172434660
Serath, Aurora and Greystone

Why are you naming 1/3rd the roster?

>>172434660
Only ones I kind of agree are Yin and Howitzer
And slight nerf is all they need.

>>172434903
Yin already got nerfed.

>>172435365
how? that fucking skinny ass bitch is so damn inconspicuous but feels like she can deal more damage to me than most of the carries. then they decided it was a good idea to give her a CC mega slow ult so I just have to stand there while she whips my ass to death. why would you give a carry that much damage, speed, and mobility, with a huge CC? WHY?

remove that whore.

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>>172324845
>Delay the announce trailer for the new hero
>But not delay the gameplay preview
Y tho? How does this make any sense?

>decide to play sevarog for a change
>team members start clearing jungle camps as early as they can

what the fuck

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>>172437972
>People in lane taking jungle camps
I can understand the offlaner taking that camp close to the tier 1, and i can even understand somebody staking a camp if their really close to level 5. Anything else is stupid and just hurts the team

>>172439790
why do they do it? last night played a game where gadget always took me green buff and then had the nerve to leave the surrounding minions up so it wouldn't respawn.

>>172434660
>Sevarog, Rampage, Lt. Belica.
Jesus Christ anon, any weaker and these heros would never see play time ever.

Do people really want Sev nerfed? I mainly play him and he's strong but easy to shut down.

>>172423359
Imo damage dealing supports don't help really at all, most of the time the kills are literally last hits galore. I've gotten 9+ kills with Dekker multiple times WITHOUT a damage build

Sometimes when lanes are pushed up but a couple of team members are dead, its better to fall back and start farming jungle camps while waiting for teammates to respawn. People dont have to sit around waiting and jungler doesnt have to get bogged down farming camps as the laners prepare for another advance -- they can take up residence in the enemy jungle taking their farm and denying rotations, or giving teammates early warnings of them, at least.

>>172439790
>>172437972

>mainly play Jungle
>get my brother in law to play with me.
>I'm level 25 he is level 12.
>he was diamond rank in league, and high in Dota 2.
>one game I'm level 3 and he comes into my left jungle and clears all my camps.
>ask him why he did that
>"in mobas, once the first tower goes down, the jungle is free for anyone to take."
>the rest of my team starts to do the same as I become underleveled compared to the other jungler
>we lose
>"man, anon, that other jungler was really good."

I was pretty pissed off, not gonna lie.

>>172441940

What were you doing while they were clearing camps?

>>172442193
Not the guy you're replying to but in defense of the laning hero's; if the jungler is regularly leaving river buffs and full camps while failing ganks(even if no fault of his own) i feel obligated to take at least 1-2 camps cause that's money for the whole team. Most of the bad junglers I play with regularly lane and even actively ignore camps. I can really only see Sev being reliant on the camps whole game.

>>172443296
>>172442193

Actually, I was playing Sev which made it hurt even more.

While all that was going on I jumped between Ganking, counter jungling, and going into my teammates lanes when they were already in my jungle. The problem was, I was running around playing catch up all game.

>>172445687
I wish people set lanes more instead of pushing it up to give free farm to enemy hero's. If you had teammates who could freeze lanes they wouldn't need to be in your jungle, just play patiently

>>172382072
They havent advertised at all yet, theyre waiting until full release. Best beleive youll see adds everywhere after, epic has alot of momey on this game, and in general

Who would you like next tier 3 skins for?

>>172451609
Yin, Aurora, Countess

>>172451609
What is a tier 3 skin?

>>172451609
Muriel, Dekker, and Belica.

>>172453920
Ones that are substantially different from the base character - Doomsday Steel, Undertow Gideon.

>>172451609
Muriel

she has no emotes and only shitty reskins :(

when is Iggy's T3 skin coming out?

>skins
>emotes

Who cares

Where's the balancing and reworking?

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I hope morigesh's kit is based around DOT damage.

>>172456119
The people that work on skins and the people that work in rebalancing arent in the same department, they do both autonomously

>>172457207
Its like you want a shittier iggy

Having Dot in this burst meta is asking to be shinbi tier. I dont want them to waste such a cool character model on trash abilities

>The fey is bad
Post elo faggots or fuck off

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Post em /pg/

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>>172459616

>>172459062
>fey is good
Okay man choose fey over dekker or aurora have FUN

>>172460954
Dekker can go mid? I never knew that
>Inb4 he plays fey like a support instead of a burst caster
People are really underestimating her ULT combo

>>172423232
>do the same thing I did with Muriel but with Dekker
>end game 7-1-8

>>172461094
Why the fuck would you play fey mid?

>>172463738
fey players are the most braindead of them all
I've even seen several that thought she was a jungler

>>172464158
>>172463738
I figured the people that screamed that she needed a buff were shitters, but damn, I never thought you guys were this fucking bad

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>sevarog ults enemies into safety

>>172460924
>>172459616

>these are the plebs i play with

The jungle is being changed in the next update boys

So what is fey supposed to do?

Left lane?

>>172467570
MID literally build all damage and go mid and profit

>>172464241
>play useless mid in comparison to every other hero
>man you guys are bad xdd

>>172458646
>shinbi tier
So B rank?

>freezing lane to catch up at a place of relative safety
>someone else on team comes over
>unloads on all the minions, misses killing blows
>succeeds in pushing lane to an unsafe location for me to farm
>leaves

Wtf they need to buff Greystone, he's so useless

>>172469050
holyshit you cant be this fucking bad to think the fey is pure support and not see that shes a great burst caster

>>172472141
She's not a great burst caster
There is 0 reason to play her over any other mid
She's garbage

>>172469654
Only if B rank is your lowest tier.

>>172472295
You are fucking bad at this game, Might as well stop talking about this, I hope she gets buffed though so when she becomess OP i can taste your tears.

As it is right now, she runs through gideons

>>172472463
pls gib replay ID I want to be a better fey

jungle changes lads. wonder how drastic theyll be

Why the fuck does Grim's knockback not kick Gideon out of his ult?

>>172473463
imagine how busted if his knockback was displacement
hed have a slightly less effective howie mine that he can throw as far as he wants on an adc

>>172473463
because it's much more fun to sit just outside the radius and kill him in a few autos

I don't know really.

anybody want to play thats in the plat high gold area? im on right now, just looking to have fun dont care about winning really

>>172472463
Nearly everything in this game "runs through Gideons" what's your point? That fey is good because of that? Oh please. No reason to ever pick fey

>>172474149
Her ult is also an instant wipe of any team regardless of skill

Im not gonna continue, Im just gonna say that if you honestly think the fey is bad, you should consider uninstalling

>>172473828
name?

>>172475246
>her ult is an instand wipe
How about when she's dead
How about when they use the invulnerability card
Teleblink
How about when she's getting barraged by howitzers missiles gadgets bombs or losing her mana from Belica?
Oh boy an fey is really going to be that useful

>>172475246
>>172400928

>>172475770
>How about when she's dead
Seem like a personal problem, if the players good they shouldnt be dying to often

>How about when they use the invulnerability card
You mean the same card that can you out of mostly all other midlane supers? dont see your point also every character wont run Hunters gile and every support doesnt run censor anymore

>How about when she's getting barraged by howitzers missiles gadgets bombs or losing her mana from Belica?
Again seems like a personal problem, this can happen with any other character

You have nothing that knocks her as an actual character

>>172475903
Seems to do more with the player just being shit

>>172475903
Yeah not him but he missed like two skillshots there, Murdock would have been dead before she got to half health.

>>172476918
Not him but no escape ability is what puts me off fey.

>>172475404
meme harvester

look me up r8 me, whats yours?
idc about winning anymore just more fun until ranked comes out

>>172477474
Thats completely understandable

>>172477767
Cant find you, Im SRG_Valo

>open crate
>lands on skin variation for baelicia
>excited for a moment
>its the pink skin
just end it already

i'll never get that sexy black default skin

>>172477315
>>172476918
if murdock was against a gagdet he woulda blown up

Fey is trash
Do you main fey like a special snowflake? I'm sure you don't

>>172479618
well im off for the day, but i can still add you. are you on PS4? that might be why try, fedwin4 on agora.gg or your friends list.

ive been hovering mid plat forever and i cant get out so i give up getting mad at losses lol

>>172483234
>mid plat

>>172473463


Why would you want this? Poor Gideon is in the low end of the spectrum and his ult is essentially a kamikaze attack gone wrong.

I remember that people in the community used to argue that his ult needed cc immunity, you don't see much of that anymore

They should probably buff his ultimate too, at least give him some armor/sustain that increases to how many enemies that're in his ultimate's radius

Will Kallari ever be good instead of a waste of a pick? Like Epic is so confused as to what her identity is.
>jungler
She can barely fucking clear camps because she's so squishy and she has no ability that helps her clear. There are better picks like Grux or Rog for that.
>Offlane
LMAO her tissue paper ass solo laning vs duo lane or even solo carry
>Mid lane
LMAO she would have to back every 10 seconds unless she were laning against Belica and her horrid early game and even then she wouldn't be able to clear waves quick enough
>safe lane
OK this makes sense, kinda like support Riki but she gets fucked by wards way harder than he does and dewarding in this game takes away wards from key areas.

So at best she's a roaming support but that doesn't fucking work here because the farm is so limited she'll get left behind really really quickly.

>>172486654
What are you implying

>>172490232
Didn't know what to bump the thread with so I just quoted mid plat

>>172489391
I really think it should have CC immunity. Or idk maybe it makes him too OP. Maybe not if they lowered the damage.

>>172490373
Nah, CC immunity would be fucking insane on that kind of ultimate, even if they lower the damage on it
They just need to give him some form of sustain/armor so that he has a chance at actually surviving his own ultimate

>>172490373
>>172490704
League of Legends: Olaf, Sion, and Kled have CC immunity, so it isn't an insane concept.
Even smite has an item that gives CC immunity

>>172490373
He used to have Armor built into the move, but they took that away, and now everytime he ults its a free kill. He really should get it back

>>172491147
Yea Hades ult is CC immune I think

>>172491601
>tfw play Chronos/Kukulkan and Ra
I fucking luv skillshots

>we're getting Mogresh first
fucking why

>page 10
fucking why

>>172491601
>>172491147
Hades ult is similar to Gideon's ultimate but the range is a lot shorter, making it a bit harder to pull off
I just think that CC immunity on his ultimate would be pretty crazy for a hard-hitting, easy to land ultimate
Sustain/armor during his ultimate would let him pull it off but if you'll still be able to cancel out his ultimate
Perhaps giving him light armor/sustain and giving him CC immunity during that last couple seconds of his ultimate rather than from start to end seems a bit more realistic

>tfw you win games you get a low KDA but lose games you get a high KDA with

Why the fuck is no one playing right now?

>>172501685
Let's play a game then

Anyone got the
>ENOUGH!
pic?

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>>172502690
This one, right?

>>172502776
Wtf

>>172502776
Every fucking time lol. Thanks

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>>172502776
Why is this so funny

>>172504407
Who is this qt 3.14?

>>172502776
What's the thing in the middle picture

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>>172504970
>Not knowing who the Khaleesi is

Anon..

>>172505053
It was hard to make out for me too until I realized what it was and it was made clear
Khaimera in the middle of his jump

>>172505063
Ew

>>172507314
t. cocksucking faggot

>>172507314
S
H
I
T A S T E

>>172505063
Oh, is it that chick from GoT? She's literally perfect.
Is that show any good though? I watched half of the first episode and wasn't really amused, they started throwing a whole bunch of characters in my face and I lost track and fell asleep but I was thinking about giving it another shot.

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>>172507592
>Is that show any good though?

Game of Thrones is a fantastic show. The only problem is it feels like information overload early on. Once you get acquatined with the characters and the plotlines you will be able to enjoy it fully. I would recommend you watch each season twice to completely absorb all the information.

>>172507775
>watch each season twice
nigga I don't watch/play anything twice, not video games,video games or movies, even if they're my favorite
I'll probably give it a go though and watch it from there

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>>172510957
>video games,video games

so anyway, Paragon is a game

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I dare you to find a gold league player with shittier k/d ratio than me.

>>172512424
KDA isn't everything man, there are master players with a shitty KDA

>>172513771
name ten.

>>172516156
i don't have to, look at agora.gg, KDA really isn't that important
but I'll give you like three names
(with a KDA less than 3)
Kijathemage (adc main with a 2.89 KDA)
Undeadpilot (another adc main with a 2.65 KDA)
Mr. No Mrs. (another adc main with a 2.73 KDA)

Tell me why you would play Dekker over Belica as support right now.

Tell me why you'd play a hero that can't push or defend late game and that relies on the team to have any sort of impact over a hero that grows from a firecracker to a nuclear warhead without being greedy w/ farm and melts every wave lategame + can pick off squishies for ez kills.

>>172518368
I know exactly why someone would play Dekker before Belica.

>Place Walls
>Watch Sparrow get 5x kills

Meanwhile you have people playing Belica who place the drone right in front of the enemies before they engage in a teamfight and look surprised when people bust it down before using abilities or use their ulti on enemies with loads of energy and little health.

>>172519130
You can also spin it the other way around
>drop drone
>single out key target
>nuke them
>4v5 teamfight


Meanwhile you have people playing Dekker who are in the front line spamming slows and orbs, trying to initiate then they get bursted down.

The implication is that the people playing are decent.

>>172518368
-Dekker can use her orb to catch escaping enemies even when they're already far beyond Bellica's range
-It's also great for stopping enemies' offensives
-She's even less cp dependant than Bellica
-Is equally strong against not mana dependent heroes, while Bellica is only really strong against casters and other enemies focusing on their abilities
-Unlike Bellica has an escape
-Her ult has like 5 different great ways to be used

Bellica is also great, but Dekker is an amazing support

>>172472335
It's not. I've seen good shin bis in high plat

Bumpity bump. We'll be getting info about new hero's abilities today, right?

>>172533962
Check the blog, already been up

How much ability pen is too much?

>>172533962
https://twitter.com/Paragon/status/847449516403900416

>playing Fey ever

>>172535045
1

>Morigesh
>[[[[[[close range caster]]]]]]

fucking shitballs

>>172535629
>CURSE IS A GLOBAL ULTIMATE
>CURSE IS A GLOBAL ULTIMATE
>CURSE IS A GLOBAL ULTIMATE
>CURSE IS A GLOBAL ULTIMATE
>CURSE IS A GLOBAL ULTIMATE
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN EPIC. GAMES MADE THE MOST HORRIFYING HERO IN AGORA

>>172535045
Penetration in this game feels like such a big meme. Needs a rework. Armor should definitely go into the negatives to give bonus damage. Right now the only pen that makes sense is satori cloak on supports.

>>172537613
I mean kallaris ult is global but I can still blink away or throw a stun projectile in the air to stun before it actually deals damage. Can't I just blink at the right moment to dodge curse ult lol.

>>172537963
Maybe if the animation isn't locked to you

>new map changes
>all of that grass clipping through fucking stone, stairs, and metal

REEEEEEEEEE

IS THERE NO QUALITY ASSURANCE

>>172537963
They specifically said the ultimate is global amd you cannot escape it.

It's a global Countess ult. Kallari just has a global teleport like Muriel does.

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LMAO

>>172537613
Still gotta be marked before she can use it on you.

There's also a huge fucking delay before it deals its damage so maybe there's time to blow a CD and save your ass

>>172538949
Mark is point and click and does not expire until the marked die, someone else is marked, or you die. I'm sure the delay will be similar to Countess's. There's no reason why they want to make Morigesh's ult easier to escape.

>>172539147
I wish mark was a skill shot. To much lock on moves in this game and it feels cheesy to die from it.

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>>172539309
It's sort of the same principle as Veigar ult, Belica ult and Karthus ult.
Just don't stand around at low HP/Mana and them ulting you is a waste.

Her swarm is a skillshot and when she turns into bees if it's not to run away you can laugh while you kill her. I'm quite satisfied with how creative they got with this and glad to see she's eligible for jungling.

Hopefully however they nerf Serath.

>>172540128
I said mark. I'm fine with her ult since I figured its was gunna be like that.

>>172540128
god I hope there's R34 of her eventually

How many games can you ALT+f4 from before they punish you for it?

>>172540885
Her mark does 0 damage and can only afflict one target. If it did damage feel free to make it a skillshot

>>172541982
It does damage.

the yin left lane meme needs to stop

>>172542524
Khaimera has 2 point and clicks as does countess it will be fine

So banners were pretty much just something for them to waste time on?

>>172539309
Gideon's slow is a skillshot without auto targeting, perhaps mark will be one as well?

>>172543809
It's ranged though. And can do 300 mid game.

>>172545790
She's a close ramge caster

Man, she can mark you from range (lock on, deals damage) AND ult you globally? I know she's a damn voodoo user but shit man, a lock on global ult is kind of ridiculous. People won't even take risks around her because there's no chance of escape if you don't win.

>>172548903
Stasis card

>>172548969
then you can't move
you also don't know when she'll do it
so it's like
>stasis
>can't move
>wait 2 and a half seconds
>ult
dead anyway

Morigesh looks like the best assassin in the game from the ult.

>>172550541
You do know when she's going to use it though, if you look at her when she ults in the trailer you can see a big silouhette that appears to be her about to stab the enemy she ult'd
It took a second to actually finish the animation and do the damage but the timing seems fairly obvious

>>172437913
Making CG animation takes time my guy
Also I can feel that with her we getting LORE finnally

I can't play dekker without being distracted by dat ass

Need some moderate t3 dekker skins

I wanna start playing Khaimera a bit
Is it better to go with a bruiser build or full damage/sustain?
This is the build I'm currently using...
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Synonynonym/34570da2-d0d3-4b39-8388-f0e42aa7b961

Anyone wanna play a game and have some fun?

>>172554058
Sure

>>172554293
Name? I'll add you right now

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>>172551578
Went to go look at it again and I didn't realize how big her ultimate is, it's a huge swarm of bugs, not a silhouette
Here it is

>>172554359
#21 on the pastebin, I'll get online in a sec

I'm playing on PS4 so I won't really be typing in-game, just spamming pings and shit

>>172554705
>>172554705
Im playing on PS4 so no worries, not really worried about losing ever since I dropped from mid platinum back to gold, just wanna have fun.
I already have you on my friends list

>>172555042
>>172554705
did you guys launch your game, i'm up too

hit me up when you're finished if you did !

>>172557003
Whats your name, I'll send you an invite

>>172557480
User_17690

you'll have to copy and paste

>>172557480
Damn I just looked into it and you can't copy and past fullwithd text from 4chan so send the invite to my other account Bälek, it'll be simpler

That'll teach me to be a memeboi

>>172558351
Sent it

Yin is so fucking dumb, they need to nerf her

>>172558351
>>172559463
Im SRG_Valo number 19

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Fey cant mi-

>>172559970
t.silver elo

Evening bump. How your games went today?

>>172560340
This

>>172564764
I've played no games today because I'm a shitter who wants do play punchbot but can't jungle to save my life

From now on, everytime you complain OP at any character, post your elo along with it, so we can laugh at you silver shitters

>>172559970
>bronze

>>172560340
>>172567537
>>172568394
Nope, Im in gold.
The fey can mid, it all depends on you, not what you perceive to be meta

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>close range caster
Oh so....she'll scale well late into the game and...she's close range...

Reminds me of one of those carries....

>>172434660
holy fuck anon get a hold of yourself

>>172451609
sevarog

he has like two skins

How do you counter Serath

>>172572669
turn 360 degrees and run away

>>172571373
What do you think a tier 3 sevarog could look like?

So how should I be making my decks? Should I be making the stat cards cheap to get the fully equipped bonus sooner, or should I go for more stats? On cards that have no fully equipped bonus, should I be doing high or low point stat cards?

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>>172575646

>>172577053
I want Home Run Severog. He carries around a baseball bat and his ultimate he swings it like he is hitting the enemy out of the park.

>>172578065
Add some baseball music to that and I'm all for it

>>172574086
>run away from Serath and her perma slow and long range dash

>>172575646
true that is the problem. He is very limited when it comes to new skins since he's just a ringwraith and there isn't much else that can be done. He should've had a holloween skin where he was a ghost with a sheet. Maybe his tier 3 or 4 could be a more humanoid sevarog instead of a phantom

>>172502776
I love fantasy grounds

give me your best paragon memes. Need them for a friend

>>172583972
No

What do you fags think of Grux? Trying him out for a while, insanely fun to play and cc people into oblivion

>>172587398
Fun and simple to use, but I feel he kind off falls behind late game. My deck might just be shit though. Also blink works great on him.

>>172587398
>>172587620
Been using the boi since Legacy, but he falls off a lot late game (I tend to roll over enemies early game and get most of my kills at this time) and then takes a control-support role toward the mid to late game.

I'm still experimenting with decks for Grux but he's at a weird place on Monolith right now, just wish they'd buff armor/health cards or make it so that fighters are inherently more bulky.

I used to think Countess took the cake for most terrifying ults.
Imagine you're recalling and some huge as fly swarm shaped horned woman witb a fucking blade bouta stab yo silly ass

Got a nigga spooked

Aww yeah
I'm gonna vomit

Why is no one ever playing crunch? He can be completely broken when used right, but I saw like two people in 20 hours

Is there a person in with the name kie080886 in this thread. I noticed this person twice going mid lane with Fey

>im in a 5 man random against a 5 man premade
Really? They even have matching names

>>172586708
plz

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>>172597542

>>172587398
He's a good character. No more no less. A class for sure. Fun? Absolutely. He's the first character that I bought mastery for.

>>172597057
>Twinblast soloing OP
>Greystone doesn't even check and he's right next to it

>>172596740
how do you build him?

>play Aurora
>win because an aoe stun and root eill never not be useless

>>172598676
I like this one but this one isn't as relevant as it is now since people aren't as likely to stay in the jungle farming when they're low like in Legacy

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???

>>172607529
what

>>172607529
Same reason why the enemy team is higher elo but I still lose 8-9 elo

Can't wait for them to fix matchmaking and set up proper elo

>>172608216
Anon's W/L ratio is 50% but the numbers aren't 50%

Noonwraith when?

>>172604592
Why don't you just write "Will always be useful"?

>>172596740
Cause he sucks right now. He really can't tank even if you build him that way which would take away from your ability to tear people to pieces quickly. So he can't lane at all. There a just straight up better jungle picks. He can be easily easily kited and his engage is horrid cause its also his escape.

He might seem good in like silver where nobody even knows that there's a minimap but so is Khaimera and he sucks too.

>>172604592
>play against Aurora
>win because she's not even slightly threatening after they put her in the dirt

Yin needs to be nerfed

>>172578868
Exactly what I was thinking, like a firework effect and crowd cheering sound effect

Just had a guy insist on playing Sevarog support. That was an interesting 15 minutes.

I don't know what it is I was on my way to plat (1455) then I hit this terrible teammate wall nothing but constant disconnects, in-fighting, bad team comps, etc. I'm down to 1370 elo now and I don't know what to do. I tried to main support but my ADCs are shit and no one knows how to group.

What do I /parag/?

>>172615681
Same issue except I have. Swear to whoever, I play against stacks and get paired with shitters. Wish I could carry 4 people or get carried by 4 people, only so much you can do with 1 role out of 5

Bump
Anyone got decks they try to use that utilizes cards not used in high elo or in "meta" decks? I get a good kick out of trying all the different cards for hero's, just tried that order card that adds a shield for over heal on life steal on a Feng/Kwang deck. Seemed interesting but it's just too bad that it doesn't create enough of a difference that I shouldn't just stick with the "meta" cards.

>>172618306
I've wanted to try out Thunder Cleaver on Aurora so she can have a decent clear speed but it's not a card I have.

>>172619901
Someone mentioned TC on a Howie, that seemed really interesting. I tried the corrupt card that applies life grant to enemy on ability hit, couldn't really tell how much it helped. Seemed like a team benefit card but again I feel like there are cards that you HAVE to take in order to have winnable games. Some of these cards seem like they could benefit from power/mana/health scaling on the percentages.

>>172620240
It kind of sucks that I wasn't playing when they gave it out and I don't have nearly enough to craft it to just test it out.

>>172618306
Would Satori cloak count as a non meta card I use that on feng and its not a card I see often but boi does it kille greystone fucking quick same goes for rampage or anyoen elese who has

>>172623089
>wake up to take a shit
>page 9
Im bouta go morigesh on you niggas

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>>172540128

What a cutie. I wanna fug that dead chick.

I want to learn Sevarog to have someone to go offlane/tank with. How do I build and play him?

>>172628632

Honestly I usually just run all armors on Sev off and farm up as many stacks as possible. It works out most of the time.

>>172632930
Like totally all armour? No dmg, attack speed or any actives?

I want to become Narbash

>>172638557
>Learn to play drums
>Eat lots of fast food
>Become popular
>???
>profit

>>172640656
>become popular
hopes and dreams: crushed

>>172628632
Use Sev in jungle, not off. If you wanna offlane tank use Greystone or Kwang.

>>172607529
>>172608553
you niggers never heard of rounding?

>>172641457
Sev can work Offlane but you already have to be good at him to not fall behind on stacks

Megavolt Pylon is mandatory on all Intellect support and mid laner decks

>>172620657
It should be easy enough now with all the free login metal. Just scrap a free rare universal cards you have multiple of

>>172623089
I would think so, I don't see any support players that don't ever have it on twitch streams.

>start playing today
>i don't like any of the starter heroes

what do i do

>>172646372
play again tomorrow