/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>R2 with casting tools still just melees
Outside of humiliation this serves no purpose

>>172032932
FAT
MAN
THIGHS

>new arena at the kiln

The game is full of arenas. Give us more bosses you fucks.

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THE PAINTER IS A LIAR, SHE IS KAATHE IN DISGUISE, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY HER LIES

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>the pruld made a petition to be god
when did he look this good though?

>>172033063
Look at the size difference between her feet, it's rather noticeable.

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>tfw no blue eye orb

>>172033219
can host attack you as blue?

So what armors did the armor weight change affect?

>>172033108
I've been trying to figure out how to counter that bullshit WA but it wrecks me every time

>>172033135
why is motion blur always funny to me.

>>172033306
>can host attack the person they're responsible for summoning to protect them

no

>>172033306
are you mad ?

How's the Farron Funsword? Did it get any AR love?

Did Curved Greatswords really need a buff? I know I didn't think so.

>>172033391
blue works same way in das2 no? I invaded as blue and they ganked me with lag men

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Need some guidance on a DMB build. Basically just want to use buffed weapons and the new Lightning Arrow miracle. Anyone know the reqs for it?

>>172033481
you cannot invade as blue

>>172033481
>hosts could attack blues in DaS2
Oh yeah, I remember that. Why the fuck?

>>172033532
>Anyone know the reqs for it?
>DMB build
You need a lot of patience and time

>>172033541
what is cracked blue eye orb
huh
u retard

>>172033598
i'm only talking in regards to dark souls 3 you retard

>>172033439
CGS were wired. Exile was absolute, it also scaled with dex while having high str requirement. Now it is a beast str weapon, I like it.

is there any reason at all to use ultra weapons

>>172033592

Talking about the Lightning arrow reqs. Just need to know how many slots it takes.

>>172033625
ur acting like i've play the game

>>172033651
They're fun.
Don't you like fun?

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PURGE THE

best boss to farm til sl150?

Which Ultra Greatsword should I use? Does the Zweihander compare to the ones you get later?

So now that shit has been datamined.

Are Silver Knight weapons in? Please say yes.

>>172033691
hence why i told you you can't invade as blue, since it doesn't work the same as das2

Guys, I killed sullivan before sending greirat to the second pillage quest, can I send him now and kill old demon king to complete it or am I fucked?

>>172033719
HOW FUCKING COULD YOU

>>172033691
then why are you talking about it?

>>172033790
the silver knight G.Hammer is in

>>172033698
losing isn't fun

>>172033853
i asked a question idiot.

>>172033786
Zwei is top tier.

>>172033816
If you haven't talked to Siegward, yes. If siegward fucked off from Irithyll. RIP Greirat.

>>172033861
Nigga, WhaT?!

>>172033864
That's why you git gud.

>>172033924
you heard me

You got your silver knight weapon, aren't you happy now?

Since the dlc is accessible from the very end of the game if you don't have AoA, do you think you should be around level 80-90 for it? I want to make a 66 str build and it's doable as a warrior with prisoner's chain, knight's ring, favor and havel.
Want to use that giant chickenwing 2.0 hammer, also I can swap out havel with hunter's ring if I want to use some of the ringed knight weapons.

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>there are people here
>RIGHT NOW
>who think they're getting a key item just for dialogue

>>172034046
it's happened before

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>>172033719
delet this

>>172034046
Remember the Ring of Betrothal?

>>172034110
The thing you didn't kill a boss for, was hidden in an optional area as RNG loot, and wasn't mentioned anywhere else in the game or described to have some use?

Painter explicitly says she's using it to make a magical painting, of the same kind you're currently standing inside at the time. And this was set up six months in advance. Something's going to happen.

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is this a decent build for the lucerne?

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>>172033993

>>172034046
I mean in 2 you got a special item and some vendrick dialouge.

I think with bloodborne you'd get some dialogue as well after beating the dlc.

Guts is the final boss of dark souls and that's it.

Who the hell is InfernoPlus and why there was a holywar in the last thread about him?

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>http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Heide+Spear
>100% drop chance from Heide Knight in Sinner's Rise (SotFS)

I used bonfire ascetic to try getting it because he drowned on my first time. Struggled to defeat him and he drops fucking heides gauntlets. What the fuck do I do now? How the hell can I get this goddamn spear? Can someone drop it for me on PC?

>>172034315
2 probably isn't your best example, each of the crowns had a use on their own and when you got them all Vendrick used them to make you immortal. So, something special happened there.

With Bloodborne, there was no key item and you just got dialogue for killing a screaming fish-man. Along with a special weapon unlike any other in the game.

I don't suppose there's anyone within SL 30 range (+3 Weapon level) that's available to help me deal with Sulyvahn?

I'm not sure if I've overlevelled for the area or what but I've seen no summons and as much as I like Anri, I've no faith in my ability to kill this guy with just NPC summons

>>172034359

Just another YouTuber shitting on 3 while still making content on 3. Also, apparently his patchnotes video was badly tested.

So great club is all around better now?

Is it a straight up meme weapon now

>>172033439
Funsword got NOTHING.
1H UGS barely changed, they got the least buff out of all of the ultras.
Farron L1s got NO CHANGE.

It's still a 500AR UGS. It's still slow as fuck with a terrible 1H moveset. It still relies entirely on its L1s. It's L1s are no longer notably faster or more useful than the standard attacks of other, higher-AR ultras.

>>172034420
>I used bonfire ascetic
That was your problem. They don't have guaranteed drops in NG+, only in NG.

>>172033891
And when you got your answer, you called the guy a retard. Last (You), cunt

>>172034487

Sorry, should've mentioned it's on PS4

>>172034046
What?
We already know that Gael's the final boss. His boss soul is in the game files and transposes two weapons at Ludleth, one of which is literally "Gael's Greatsword"

>>172034561
He drowned in my NG and didn't drop anything, what can I do now to get it?

>>172034608
I don't think anyone was questioning Gael being a boss, just that giving painter loli his juice would have some extra effect.

>>172034627
Farm them until you get a spear. That's all you can do, now.

Shit they still need to fix in this game

* They need to get rid of the discrepancy between online and offline play for buffs and rings.
* Fix the bug that allows you to parry Emit Force and Wrath of the Gods completely negating damage.
* Divine Pillars of Light needs a bigger radius like the Winged Knights have.
* Vow of Silence needs to last longer, 30/45 seconds instead of 10/15 seconds.
* Dead Again needs to have the damage greatly increased and needs proper indicators for online play.
* Atonement and Skull Ring don't work at all.
* Lifehunt Scythe should either do more damage or heal more. Maybe a double slash like Aldrich.
* Fire Whip should properly push them back like it did in 1 and 2.
* Firestorm and Chaos Storm need to hit more than twice or have their damage increased.
* Soul Stream needs to let you move and turn while casting like they did with Gnaw.
* Pestilent Mercury should stagger like Lifedrain Patch. People just walk through it.
* With the recent change to Blood & Poison infusions they need to make unique weapons with these properties better.
* Replace the left-hand block with light attack and make the L2 a strong attack or weapon skill.
* Chaos and Dark infusion need to be on par with Refined (C/C scaling)
* Crystal and Lightning infusion need to be on par with Heavy and Sharp (S scaling)
* Simple and Blessed infusion should just become a weakened, buffable infusion like Raw with utility still

>>172034420
>>172034627
>Drops from the spear-wielding Heide Knights in the Lost Bastille
>Drops from the spear-wielding Heide Knight in Heide's Tower of Flame (SotFS)
>hurrr durrr how do i get it

>>172034627

Honestly mate, if you're that desperate for the spear just restart, unless you can farm Ascetics

so how is the zweihander with the new update?

>>172034716
>parry Emit Force and Wrath of the Gods completely negating damage
FROOOOOOOM

>>172032932
Who is that on op pic?

>>172034487
>>172034585

Pls, I'm scared of getting POPE'd ;_;

pc fc?

>>172034716
>Fix the bug that allows you to parry Emit Force and Wrath of the Gods completely negating damage.
Those are intentional, since WoG is a story of Gwyn, anyways.

>>172034791
It's a little bit faster now

>>172034856
If you're that much of a shitter you should defiitely do that boss solo and get good

>>172032950
Right, guess I'll build towards this and rush everything with Hidden Body until I can get to the DLC.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/156420

Might change Storyteller's Staff for Heretic's and take INT to 35/40 so GHSA does some damage. Depends on how beneficial the extra INT is to the dagger.

>>172034856
You're 20 levels and 3 more weapon upgrade level under levelled.

Most people usually do him at sl40-50 with +5/6 weapon.

>lightning arrow
So, how shit is it gonna be?

>>172034929

If you're good enough to make that statement, come into my world and feel free to show me up. I'll let you solo him and everything

You HAVE gotten good right anon? You're not gonna go and lie on the internet are you anon?

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Rate my spellsword lads. The idea is to mostly be a melee char with Frostbite as a gimmick, but to also be able to use some quick sorceries on the fly. I have both the Court Sorc staff and the Candlestick because I want to be able to cast Snap Freeze with Friede's Scythe out as well as being able to go sword catalyst. Dagger is a standin for the new DLC lightsaber dagger, I forget what it's called.

>>172034716
>Divine Pillars of Light needs a bigger radius like the Winged Knights have
Winged Knight pillars doesn't have a bigger radius, it just centers on and tracks the player.

>Vow of Silence needs to last longer, 30/45 seconds instead of 10/15 seconds
Vow of Silence lasting too long starts to become counterproductive, since you'll have at least 30 Faith when using it and probably 40 for infusion scaling just to get some other benefit out of it.

>Dead Again needs to have the damage greatly increased and needs proper indicators for online play
Agreed, but in the meantime invade Undead Settlement with it. All the non-aggressive hollows count as player allies, meaning invaders can target, attack, kill, and explode them.

>Pestilent Mercury should stagger like Lifedrain Patch. People just walk through it
PM makes an excellent obstacle and screen in PvP. Don't use it for damage, use it to cordon off an area. Also, it doesn't hurt your allies, so you can drop it over a Warmth and claim the glowing HP locus for team asshole.

>Chaos and Dark infusion need to be on par with Refined (C/C scaling)
They already are, you fucking loon. Unless you mean decrease their scaling to C/C, which would actually make them far, far worse than Refined due to how defenses interact with weapon AR.

>Crystal and Lightning infusion need to be on par with Heavy and Sharp (S scaling)
You have no idea.

>>172034874
10/10

>>172034525
great mace is probably better

>>172035089
It's just a flashy lightning spear, probably does less damage but with a slightly faster projectile or something.

>>172035089
Low damage but the fact that you can hold and release like a greatbow for a fraction of the stamina cost, and HA cast it will make it rather useful. Also, the fact that you can use it 1H, unlike a bow, will likely allow for arrow trades to be followed up with a melee attack.

Holding a projectile for a delayed release is really useful because it greatly reduces the telegraph and react-able time.

>>172035064

Bollocks, really? It's been ages since I've played I completely forgot the average levels

I think I can get to about 40-45 with my saved up souls, or would I be better off just trying for it so i can do the Post Sulyvahn area in peace for once?

>>172034420
i can drop you <3
SM?

>>172035089
>lightning spear already doesn't deal any damage
>arrows are basically babby spears
>lightning arrow probably won't even deal extra melee damage

>>172035130
I'm on PC but yes I would have helped you. But the truth is Sulyvahn isn't that hard

>>172034462
thats what I meant when you complete all 3 dlc's you get a special item.

I guess there really isn't any precedent to go by though. 2 and 3 are the only games with multiple dlc's so anything goes really.

>>172035258
389k

>>172035089
You can hold the spell for sick mind games™

I also heard you get a spell cast animation after rolling or running too, but have yet to see it.

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>poison and toxic the invader
>cast warmth
>walk away

>>172035253
>i can do the Post Sulyvahn area in peace for once

Yeah do this instead. Also just saying just summon anri and gotthard, then use carthus rouge and r1 spam.
I've done this on Sl11 and survived.

>>172035161
A 40 fth build with two att slots could run wolnir's, flail and a buffed heavy weapon. None of them would reach minmaxed damage, but it'd at least ignore spells.

Chaos is worse than other infusions, it only feels good because most of the PvE is weak to fire. Crystal is okay but could use a buff and lightning is incredibly awful.

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here we go

Should I just get out of my sl 35 build and just grind for dark moon? I've gotten 15 so far but I barely get summons as a sentinel.

>>172035354
i have 2m :(

>>172035396

I do have a few CRs, cheers for the advice man

>>172035437
>flail
I haven't played since AoA release, wasn't it considered shit tier?

>>172035293
It's already confirmed for not dealing bonus melee damage.
It does about as much as GLS at range but costs less FP than basic lightning spear, so the intended pve purpose is to be an FP-efficient source of ranged damage. Literally lightning soul arrow.

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>>172034546
Oh well, g-good thing it isn't my favorite weapon or anything...

>>172035437
Chaos is exactly as strong as Dark infusion. In PvP, it's arguably better than Refined since no shield blocks fire or dark 100%. Dark is usually better since very few players have enough Faith to mitigate its damage whereas most have enough strength to weaken Chaos, but against pyros Chaos is better than Dark (ironically).

>>172035219
>Holding a projectile for a delayed release is really useful because it greatly reduces the telegraph and react-able time.
That's not how it works.

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>Blue Sentinels get priority summon if they have more hours in SotFS than DS1
>Darkmoons get priority summon if they have more hours in DS1 than SotFS
>If you have no hours in either game you have no priority summoning

Are the Splitleaf Greatsword and Herald Curved Greatsword any good? How should I build them? They both look really cool but I've been out of the multiplayer meta for ages.

>>172035517
It was one of those things where it looked bad at first glance, but had a metric fuckton of weird little side advantages that makes it actually pretty good.

>>172035575
>but against pyros Chaos is better than Dark (ironically)

Well, pyromancy has always been about controlling the flame and knowing that the flame can't be controlled.

>>172035457
:(
Well thanks for the thought anyway

>>172035517
It's actually really obnoxious to fight against because of the hitbox.

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cannot invade

What's your fav ultra heavy weapon? Currently using Yhorms machete

>>172035517
+ Has the third fastest attack speed in the game.
+ When two handed it breaks any hyper armor.
+ Obnoxious hurtbox that can hit you when you're to the side of them or behind them. Lag not required.
+ Weapon skill improves miracle damage and weapon buffs
- Low attack rating
- No strong attack

You be the judge.

>>172035670
side advantages?

>>172035160
Not much use in the Court Sorcerer's staff unless you're going >50 INT.
27 VIG with Ember and Ring of FAP is more than enough, trade some of that for Endurance.

>twohanded heavy exile CGS
>go from 34 str to 40 on mugenmonkey
>gain 19 AR
>go from 60 str to 66 str on mugenmonkey
>gain 20 AR
does anyone have the actual AR values of a twohanded exile curved greatsword? There's no way this isn't borked.

>>172035587
It's exactly how it works, anon.

Press: character performs startup animation and fires. Target sees startup animation, reacts by timing a roll and safely avoids the projectile as it is fired. Target does not need to react to the firing of the projectile because botht the visual and audio cue indicate exactly when they need to input their dodge to safely avoid the attack ahead of its actual release.
Hold: character performs startup animation and stops. Character can now release the projectile whenever, completely unrelated to the duration or cues of the startup animation. Target must now react to the firing itself, which leaves much less time between critical cue and evasion window.

It's an objectively more difficult attack to dodge via prediction or reaction

>>172035575
Actually, chaos has better numbers than dark on weapons. It's not only fth and str defenses hurting it, armor, shields and other things also all defend better from fire on average

>>172035873
>+ When two handed it breaks any hyper armor.
Wait wat? Even my 45 poise Great Hammer?

>>172035913
S-scaling weapons have virtually no softcap. Since the 2H bonus is a % of 1H, the higher the 1H value, the more of an increase the 2H will give. This ius normally offset by diminishing returns, but those aren't as significant with S-scaling.

>>172035929
i was wondering why from didn't make all spells capable of this

>>172035962
Yep. It's considered a hammer meaning it breaks hyper armor.

>>172035219
>Holding a projectile for a delayed release is really useful because it greatly reduces the telegraph and react-able time.
That's not how it works.

>>172035901
Refer to >>172035873, then add bleed, faster spell followups after its own attacks, alarmingly high spellbuff at 40fth, and being a perfect offhand weapon that's also an offhand catalyst. It just happens to be the perfect companion weapon to everything if you have 40fth.

>>172035864
>Can't invade in an area where you can't invade
wow

Does From not give a shit that people are using TRC shit in arena?

>>172035913
at 60str, 16dex (no lloyds sword ring)
1hand; 631
2hand; 673

better than every single str build ultra except for yhorms

>>172035943
Chaos and dark have the exact same base damage and scaling. Literally the only difference between the two is the damage type, and the only difference in use is what build your opponent has.

>>172035962
He's being hyperbolic like an attention-starved child.
Maces have high poise-damage and the flail is treated as a mace. High poise damage isn't the same as breaking all hyperarmour, but 2H maces have almost as much poise damage as 2H greatswords and both require a significant amount of poise for ultras to be able to withstand consistently.

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>invade
>lure host/phantom to chase me up a ladder
>cast flame stream at them before they can each the top
>not a damn thing they can do

>>172036110
>has to walk into building instead of the perfect 1v1 area

>>172036084
interesting... it might even be worth making a faith build for

>>172036184
They announced it in the patch notes, but specifically held back map data and a few other things we still don't know about. They know about it, they're softbanning people if they catch it, but my understanding is that they're using it as a distraction and for controlled hype.

I rolled whips and after playing for 2 hours I really got to say
whips suck ass

what time is the dlc releasing

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Why can't From Soft make a working Darkmoon/Sentinel covenant after three games ?

>>172036357
tomorrow

Is the Flamberge any good? I know greatsword swing speed has been buffed when AoA came out, but the famberge doesn't have the same swing animation. I really want to use it but if it's just mediocre compared to other weapons of its class it's not worth it.

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>still no Crimson Set

>>172036356
The only good thing about them is their WA.

>>172036274
It's not worth making a faith build for, but it is worth making a faith hybrid for. Its spellbuff all but stops at 40fth instead of 60, meaning it goes great with shit like Wolnir's sword. But if you're using it at 60fth, pretty much the only reason to use it is for the weapon art which will make your Sunlight Spears do 1,200+ damage with Sunlight Talisman.

>>172033219
>well kept
how?

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>>172036428
rolling r1's are pretty slick as well desu

>>172036504
no idea
Miyazaki is just retarded

>>172034525
It's good for invading noobs

you'll get destroyed by anyone with the slightest idea how to play in a duel though

>>172036379
was it bad in 1 as well?

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Does anyone know if the Ringed Knight Straight Sword has better scaling with 40/40 or 66 str and 15 dex while two handed?
It has a B/D scaling.

>>172035867
LKGS is my weaponfu. It looks to have gotten a slight NERF. Why the fuck? It sure doesn't seem to swing faster. The stam usage is a little less, but the AR decreased ~40. I refuse to join the SS shitter meta. Please advise.

>>172036385
sharp at 24 str 40 dex, it's almost the exact same damage and range as a sharp claymore, just without the thrusting strong attacks, but with added bleed

>>172036505
Not in pve where they do as much damage as a dagger R1 against enemies that are already easy to hit.

>>172036613
no, because blue eye orb was a thing. If you used it at pvp hotspots, you were never short of getting any summons.

theres never a red to fight when i invade as a blue. ii thought i was supposed to invade people with invaders in there world akready

>>172036013
>Since the 2H bonus is a % of 1H, the higher the 1H value, the more of an increase the 2H will give.
That only means that the difference between twohanded and onehanded will grow as SL goes up, per-point the amount of AR should still go down. Twohanding doesn't affect the later points any more than the earlier points. If I multiply a smaller number by 1.5, it should be less than a bigger number multiplied by 1.5. Unless the onehanded gain form one SL to another was bigger, the twohanded shouldn't be bigger either.

>>172036193
It's probably the last 6 levels that are fucked on MM then. Going from 54 to 60 on gives 13 AR, I highly doubt the next 6 somehow give 20.

>>172036385
It has something like 400 AR when raw, swings pretty fast and wide.
Pretty good up to around Anor Londo for characters without much STR/DEX investment or if the weapon you want isn't available early, but I wouldn't make it the focus of my build.

>>172036504
Nobody knows how those things work yet. People think it's based on how many hosts an invader kills before a blue kills them, but there's nothing to prove it yet. The weird part is Faithful and Watchdogs can drop them even though they don't drop normal ears and don't pull blue summons.

>>172036779
if you're talking about dark souls 2 that's now how it works

if you're talking about dark souls 3 then blues can't invade so that's still not how it works

>>172036504
you gotta kill a sinner

>>172036908
dark souls 2
how does it work
the first time i saw a blue guy was when he helped me kill a red

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>>172036971
Wear the ring and you can be summoned to help the host fight a red
Use the blue eye orbs to invade a host who was a bit of a cunt to someone earlier

>>172036638
The former, most likely. B scaling still tends to softcap pretty hard around 60 and its base damage isn't anything special.

>>172036356
Another thing, since i also rolled greatshields: Why do greathshields suck so hard? The only ones with 100% phyical require more than 30 str, WTF IS THIS

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>>172037005
>visible confusion

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>>172037005
you seem like you are late to the party senpai

>>172036971
i don't understand why you wouldn't just look up how this works on one of the wiki's

invading as a blue just means you're after the host as usual, except you're only allowed to invade people who invade other people (generally)

while in the sentinels covenant with the ring you can be automatically summoned to counter-invade a red invading someone in way of blue covenant

which nowdays happens approximately never

>>172037098
>good shield has high requirements

What's wrong

>>172037031
what soapstone do i use if i want to help a another player with a boss

>>172036807
>It's probably the last 6 levels that are fucked on MM then. Going from 54 to 60 on gives 13 AR, I highly doubt the next 6 somehow give 20.
actually, from what i remember, the scaling picks up slightly from 90-99, so 60-66 2handed should give better returns

>>172034487
Suly is +5 SL 55 range
Why are you 30?

>>172037149
Haven't seen their stat screens posted anywhere before.

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>>172035604
Anyone?

>>172037082
I checked it out with Executioner's greatsword which also has a B/D scaling at yeah 40/40 is slightly better but only by like 10 AR
Gonna make a 66 str character for the dlc anyway I think because of the newly buffed heavy infusions etc, and the new great hammer looks fun.

>>172037149
what's going on here

>>172037149
>3 pieces of slutwear in DLC

>>172037197
have you tried reading item descriptions

>>172037226
Do you have the stats for the Mad King Halberd and Splitleaf Greatsword?

>>172037162
Knight starts with 100% physical shield, which has a requirement of 13 str.
The lowest GS needs 16 str and doesnt have that, and there are only 2 GS that needs 16 str and neither have that.
It is such so more benficial to use the knight shield than any GS for PVE, it is just stupid.

>>172037248
Weapon art. Fun stabby stuff for stabbing stuff, very fast and works with Leo Ring. Also works in your left hand.

>>172037298
>Not mine, so don't ask for more after these two.
I wish.

>>172037237
66/15 will likely work best for the paired UGS as well.

>>172037295
it's not very helpful.

>Some Guy with Wolf Knight Greatsword an some mid shield.
>Take him down to 20% HP
>He starts to parry.

When will people learn that you can't parry 2H Great Hammers.

>>172037341
My bad

>>172037203
Oh, it actually is supposed to jump up then. I guess I better go try out 66 str.

Is there any poisebreak worth aiming for with exile CGS? iirc 46 poise lets you go through a GH 1HR1 and a GS 2HR1.

>>172037235
>are these DLC weapons we don't have yet any good
Take a wild fuckin' guess, guy. It'll be as helpful as anything we could tell you

>>172037269
there's the one in that screenshot and the desert sorceress set

what's the last one?

>>172037197
White. The large one, not the small one.

>>172037416
>we don't have yet
speak for yourself

>>172037416
Dumb Sonypony

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>>172037117
>E faith scaling

>>172037397
They've been trying forever, and never learned a thing.
>the slight chuckle I would always get as somebody tried to parry the smelter hammer
Good times.

>>172037440
zullie's slut wear

>>172037325
GS have better stability so they can endure more hits and better elemental defenses.

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>>172037416
>we don't have yet

Poise in DaS 3 isn't bad actually imo desu senpai baka

How big do you guys think the ringed city level itself is going to be?

What type of level design would you like out of it?

What's the best build for the Mad King Crucifix? 40str/10int/40fth?

>>172037397
Why would you want them to?

>>172037156
>while in the sentinels covenant with the ring you can be automatically summoned to counter-invade a red invading someone in way of blue covenant
>which nowdays happens approximately never
i'll wait dforever

>>172037587
I would like it to be ring shaped.

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for all you 60str fags
heavy greatsword is now pretty good (so is LKGS but you need lightning resin)
heavy great mace is now marginally better than dragontooth and has less weight
heavy lance could potentially be good and is much faster (550 thrust with lloyds sword + blessed weapon)
heavy exile is 100% op and will be nerfed
greataxe is still fine

everything else is either the same or not changed enough to be worth mentioning

What helmets go well with morne's armor?
I've been rolling with lothric knight but the color difference is starting to bother me

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I need meme builds

>>172037478
>dark-specialized casting-tool
>dark-boosting WA
>E faith scaling so it's actually shit with dark spells
They did it again, bravo

>>172035089
302 damage to NG Sword Master with 60 fth and +10 Yorshka's Chime. For comparison, SLS does ~540 damage at ranged. Its probably still better than Lightning Spear at ranged though, so theres that.

>>172035208
It is faster

>>172035293
It doesnt

>>172035371
It doesnt

>>172037632
There's also the broadsword

>>172037640
Morne's Helmet

>>172037656
>Havel the helicopter

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>>172037623
>mfw ring shaped with another giant shit swamp in the middle
>mfw this DLC will be Profaned Capital Super Sized edition

>>172037742
so what's the point of it then

>>172037812
Billed Mask.

>>172037632
greataxe is best when sharp now

>>172037640
Maybe Drakeblood?

what is the best weapon for bloode gems? warden twinblades or thief dagger? or is there something else that i don't know about?

>>172037703
It's better than CSS with dark spells at 60int, and worse than Izalith at 40/40. So, bonus points for not making it a strictly better version of the Izalith Staff, I guess.

>>172037910
not when 2handing

>>172037632
>for all you 60str fags

in lieu of >>172036807/>>172037203 saying that the 6 levels after 66 give almost double the AR of the 6 levels before it, isn't it always worth it to say 66 or bust if you're going past 40?

>>172037632

Winged Knight Halberd got a huge buff too.

>>172037958
Rotten Ghru Dagger has pretty good Blood and Poison ratings when Blood infused iirc.

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I wish they'd bring this set back

Is Pyro/Dex viable?

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fuck that was so scary

>>172038401
>blue sentinel
>red phantom
what heresy is this

>>172038359
Witch's Locks is pretty rad and is pyro/dex

pvp focused weapon though, the weapon art is legit

>brought back ruin sentinel for "no reason"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95vd7s-mIhk
Is OnlyAfro the most powerful souls player?

>>172038472
no one else invades and i just got dick fucked by a gold havel

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>dlc in 2 days, 11 hours, 17 minutes, and 32 seconds

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I thought I'd finally be able to use this without being called a shitter after the last patch

But WHAT IS THIS

MEMEHACKI I'LL END YOU

>>172038226
Everything except the chestpiece looked like shit on that set. The only reason people used the gloves was because of the bleed bonus.

>>172038359
Which game?

DS1: Yes, it's ideal
DS2: No, it's shit
DS3: Better to do Quality + Pyro

>>172037478

Don't be-- it's actually a good catalyst, especially for hexers that don't want to have to invest in FAI or start as a pyromancer. The scaling just makes it so that your dark spells scale solely off your INT. This also makes it a separate option for hexers rather than a replacement for the Izalith Staff because the Izalith Staff, requiring FAI as well as INT, opens up more spell options in general, so it's more useful if, say, you wanted to use miracles/pyromancies along with your hexes.

>>172038757
They increased the forward momentum of 1H large curved swords this patch and decreased the speed of their 2H R1s

Just use it 1H with a WA offhand. It's just as good as 2H now and looks better

>>172038503
they made greatlance great too

>>172038757
Sit down.
Lets talk about that fashion.

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>tfw it's the end of souls and no channeler set and trident
Why bros? The dance is a weapon art before weapon arts

>>172036379
Why can't From Soft make a decent PvP game that isn't mechs?

Oh right, Miyzaki

>>172038359
Sure, 40/35+/35+ doesn't leave much room for VIG/END/ATN though.

>>172038757
fuck you, it is a beautiful weapon

>>172038757
>two handing a saber
what is wrong with you

>>172038990
lothric war banner

Trying to do an unarmed faith build.

Anyone willing to donate some shit so that I don't suffer too much from this literal hell, I already have a lightning caestus
I'm on xboner

>>172038868
Damn, thats pretty interesting actually.

>>172039003
Because most people play for the PVE. Anyone whose sane anyway...

>>172038868
>The scaling just makes it so that your dark spells scale solely off your INT
I don't think you understand.
Dark spells softcap off single-stat scaling at a lower level than pure sorceries or miracles. While the latter scales well up to 60 (and actually gets most of their damage from 40-60) dark spells softcap at 45 and gain minimal returns beyond it. They make up for this lower softcap by having dual-scaling, so their softcap is the combined total of 45/45 instead of 60.

Having E scaling in faith just means that this casting tool sucks. Dark spells still softcap at 45int, but now they gain almost no benefit from faith, meaning that the lower int scaling makes this casting tool strictly worse than the Court Sorcerer's under every circumstance except while the WA is active.

A few general ago, some anon said how "Bleed/Poison" infusion was improved.

How much are they improved, he said that thye were increased to 50+ when infused. Is this true, can I achieve 50+ bleed with high enough luck stat?

Anyone got a area/level chart for co-op in DaS3?

>>172039068
What do you need in specific?

>>172033108
>>172033318
Perseverance 4 lyfe

I don't know if it's just people being idiots or they don't recognize the sword, but i've gotten a shitton of free kills with the Black Knight Sword because of it

>>172039131
You can achieve 70+ bleed with high enough luck my mans.

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best heavy infused greatsword?

>>172039068
sent ;)

>>172039109
You'd be surprised. Especially a lot of PC players are only attracted to dark souls because of the asymmetric pvp (invasions), because they can't get it anywhere else. I was hoping most of them would move to For Honor but it looks like Ubisoft dropped the ball again.

It's pretty obvious that the game is entirely intended for PvE with some co-op or multiplayer along the way (that's why arenas aren't integrated into the main game, like every PvP-focused fromsoft game) but that doesn't stop people from making dedicated PvP builds.

>>172035604

Splitleaf is almost a pure STR weapon, although it has DEX scaling, it's almost nonexistant. Anyway, the weapon itself is pretty good. It has a standard halberd moveset, but the WA is very unique and can be charged instead of used immediately. It's a very, very stamina intensive weapon, though, so keep that in mind.

As for the Harald CGS, it's pretty cool. I haven't used it too much yet, but I'm sure it'll perform well in PvP.

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getting closer, would i get better luck as a high level darkmoon cause low sl blue shit is taking forever.

>>172039068
>unarmed faith build
>I already have a lightning caestus
explain what do you mean by unarmed

>>172038868
>>172037117
Looks like it's best staff for 60int dark spells.
There is no reason to use 45/45 build for hex.
60int gives you top tier sorc spells

>>172039329
If I actually did unarmed I'd probably want to kill myself.

Caestus is close enough.

>>172039246
Crushing Great Sword.
>S Scaling in Str
>440 AR at 50 Str softcap
>Great moveset

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>red invaders drop proof of concords if you're a Sentinel/Darkmoon
Y/N ?
FTFY MIYAZAKI

>>172039115

Weird. It seemed barely weaker than CSS when I used it, though.

Besides, the WA is super cheap (and so are Great Deep Souls) so it's not that big a deal in my opinion.

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>>172038970

What about my fashion

>>172039060
>>172039062

IT'S SHIT

>>172039543
The problem with being WA-dependent is that the WA takes time to activate and doesn't last long. Maintaining uptime mid-fight is tedious and impractical. This is the reason that the crystal staff sees almost no use despite the fact that it beats court sorcerer when the WA is up.

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>>172039498
it's actually not that bad, but you might want to kill the dancer as soon as possible

>>172039526
N
You'd just equip the covenant every time you got invaded and get to max rank without even taking part in that covenant's activities.

I see people calling Nameless King and (Blackflame) Friede the best bosses in the series. I want to know why. Maybe I'm missing something in their design, but I feel like I'm just bashing my head against the wall. I get more done by mashing shit than by actually trying to learn the boss, which can't be the intended method. Against the King, I feel like it's up to the whim of the game whether I 1). dodge at all; and 2). dodge through the attacks. I feel like I can't even predict anything, because when I try to, they just extend their combo like the cheeky cunts they are.

Yes, I'm well aware I need to acquire proficiency. How? They're making me hate the game at the moment. I don't want to entirely regret buying the DLC.

what is a good weapon to put blood gem on with a luck build?

>>172039872
There isn't one

>>172039660

Doesn't that one make spells cost more FP as well? I could have sworn the description mentioned that.

>>172039651
Good lord. Also you're right leg looks busted... you might wanna fix that.

>yfw you queue a roll by accident and can only watch in horror as you get killed

>>172039651
I have every piece of armour in the game and I can't for the life of me think of what that chestpiece is

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>>172039903

It doesn't, you double hollow

>>172039920
hard leather, it looks different on women

How heavy is lapps armor and what set could you compare it to in terms of weight?

>>172039651
Looks like shit, anon.

>>172039920
Looks like Hard Leather.

>Dark souls 3
>the third
>it's still not worth it to block instead of roll
When will they fix this?

>>172040004
I don't know what the fuck the other guy's on about, you look fine.

>>172039920

hard leather

female version has that red thing for some reason

>>172040004
>>172039920
Oh fuck now I get it, I just couldn't tell because of the lighting

But yeah change your fashion man

Lothric helmet always looks good with the starter knight chestpiece, then silver knight leggings + any knight gauntlets work although for the leggings you can make your own choice based on how much of a "shining knight" you wanna look

>>172039227
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/156467
How would this fare senpai~

I feel like I should probably have 15 int instead of all that vigor then use hollow staff for GMW

>>172039847
you can't change covenant when you get invaded

>>172039910
>try to L2/R1 a guy with GSoJ
>wasn't two-handing
>get hit and roll away, queue up two-handing my weapon and try to L2/R1 again
>die as I try to Steady Chant him to death
>die irl from embarrassment
I swear input queuing only works if the end result is going to put you in a position that will get you hit.

>>172039327
I had more luck as a low SL blue than high level. I was SL 20-30

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Alright, so I realized something I could do for some insight on the bosses was to simply find the ID the game uses to see what boss name should be displayed during boss fights and change it manually to see what other names it would display.

What I've found so far is:
21800 SPEAR OF THE CHURCH
502000 DEMON FROM BELOW / CrimsonBat
502100 DEMON IN PAIN / CrimsonBat_Bit
502200 DEMON PRINCE / CrimsonBat_Bit_S
502300 DEMON PRINCE / CrimsonBat_Bit_HU
620000 SLAVE KNIGHT GAEL / YUPA
621000 DARKEATER MIDIR / DarknessDragon

Interestingly, 632000 ??? / MANUSU,
628000 ??? / GiantNorm, and 633000 ??? / Abaddon don't have boss name associated with them. Of existing, unused NPCs, it turns out 512000 SnakeSoul has "Evil Spirits" as its boss name. MatherDoragon and RuinCapitalKing aren't bosses, but that was expected.

Spear of the Church is down in the Player Model NPC range of IDs, meaning it's either a player model NPC boss, or it is indeed an Old Monk style fight and the ID is down there for the sake of the offline placeholder.

>>172039858
It's all style. Same reason people kept calling Artorias the best boss in the series prior to that, even though he was basically "move toward the right with your shield up, swing, then heal when he does his buff". There are VERY few bosses in souls where you actually have to "learn" the boss, most of them you just have to not fuck up reaction timing, since they telegraph so much.

O&S and Bell Gargoyles were probably the best designed bosses because they required strategy beyond just reaction time, there was a lot of positioning and planning involved in how to deal with multiple attacks from multiple directions. Manus, too, since he required positioning (not just rolling) to avoid his attacks and couldn't be easily blocked.

>>172040185
Really? Seems kind of superfluous do disallow it but I've never tried.

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>>172040351
>Zullie finally got her outfit back
gratz my man

>>172039858
I don't know what to tell you about the NK. Be patient, hit the dodge button a little earlier because clouds reduce your framerate (which can introduce input delay), punish with single hits instead of combos and pay attention to which telegraph is going into which attack. He has several different moves that look similar (eg. horizontal slash) that start up differently and have different openings/possible combo extensions. Some are more punishable than others. He becomes easier in phase 2 because his lightning moves all give you lots of time to hit him and still dodge safely. He has low poise so if you can consistently get lots of hits in, you can stagger for a riposte and deplete his health quickly. 1st phase is weak to lightning in particular but vulnerable to all forms of damage. 2nd phase is strong to lightning but weak to dark and fire as well as bleed.

Friede's 3rd phase is a waiting game. She has a couple moves that are VERY punishable (usually via backstab and wakeup R2 for maximum damage) and spends most of the fight being almost unassailable. Stay away, play patiently and wait for those punishable moves to get your damage in. As you improve, you may notice that her melee combos all have gaps where she delays an attack and can easily be interrupted for some damage. She doesn't actually have HA during her paired combo chains, so a quick rolling attack between moves can always shut down her aggression.

This series lacks spoders.

>>172039498
You can rush to Lightning Spear after Vordt and Gundyr, you could probably just beat them to death with a chime.

>>172039823
The issue comes from being so early in the game.
I honestly think I wouldn't be able to beat dancer this early. Maybe with summoning, but I'd probably just eat shit and die a lot, and the fact that I'd need 30 medals to get great lightning spear.

I don't even know how I'm going to get past anything, Caestus have terrible range.

>>172040351
It's possible the NPC is there so that offline players have something to fight

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>>172040446
Spoders, you say...?

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>>172040138

not enough room for that

I wanted to go with this look but Memehacki and his neck gaps wont let me

>>172039327
it's inconsistent as fuck

sl 25, yesterday and earlier today I was almost constantly getting summoned

but for the past 5 hours I've only been getting summoned like once an hour

>>172040351
I wonder how HP and so on will work if it is an Old Monk Boss fight

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>>172040446

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>>172040437
Yeah, it's real nostalgic. I'm glad.

>>172040437
Oh goodness, I miss the heydey of 2's wizardry.
The touhou bullet table
The magical girl henshin table
All the mucking around with datamined DLC assets months before the DLCs actually released

Those were good times.

>>172040351
Evil Spirits, huh...
KINDRED

>>172040474
I think I beat her with gnaw and the medals were all from Vordt.
Run past everything until you have enough fp.

>>172040446
Every game has spiders

>>172037852
A longed ranged way to do miracle damage and look hella cool while doing it
Its fairly spammable too. Like that other guy said, its like the Great Soul Arrow of miracles now, only its faster.
If it werent locked behind the end game dlc then itd probably be much more valuable. You could delete Lightning Spear from the game and put Lightning Arrow in its place and I would be much happier.

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>>172040446

>>172040446
But das3 was the only game without spider boss
Even bloodborne had one

>>172040351
Yupa is just Gael's name in Japan I think, it's what we were originally told he would be called when they released screenshots of him before AoA. Would I be correct in saying these IDs are only there to give the names for the bosses, or would they also imply different models? If the latter is the case then Gael is indeed just one form and would probably start off all fucked and transformed.

>>172040571
Try that but with Nameless Knight helm/Nameless Knight leggings and whatever gauntlets you feel like. It's a look I used in DS1 and it should still work in this game, although I dunno if it would connect together well on a female model

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Okay guys, I'm pretty much done with Dark Souls 1, I still like Demon's Soul better for the atmosphere. Should I play 2 or just skip it and go directly to 3?

>>172040706

Santa giving a christmas gift to Peeve was pretty great.

>>172040681
>>172040437
>>172040706
>>172040351
>Zullie, not Yuria

>>172039847
like with the warriors of the sunlight?

>>172040185
yes you can

>>172040865
how new

>>172040839
I think 3 feels better, but 2 is enjoyable too. Might as well go 1 2 3

>>172038503
If that's the case why isn't the Giant set and Mask of the Farher not back in the game?

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>>172040446
Even BB had spiders.

>>172034029
They said in the livestream for it that its balanced around level 100+ but that was said by players who were all absolute trash tier apart from the one guy in the PvP segment (who wasn't there in the singleplayer part). I think 90-100 would be a nice place to start.

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Can someone with the doors please confirm whether they require 40 Str, or 45? The initial datamining showed they required 40, but Zullie posted a picture of Heavy infused last thread with a 45 requirement.

This is very important for confirming whether my doorman build will work.

>>172040839
Definitely skip 2 so that you are playing 3 while the DLC drops- thataway you can actually get the whole experience bc 3 will be alive

>>172040392
Artorias was good because you could learn him, though. And he had a couple combo moves, but mostly he telegraphed his shit in a way that you actually had time to react. With NK especially, it's more like, "I hope yo remembered just how long he was going to charge his spear before he instantly charged your sorry ass!" And that's just not fun for me. The ones you listed are. Gravetender was great. Hell, even the first two phases of Friede are fun, like you learn her moveset and then they spring a multi-boss on you. Then they go full retard with anime nun princess with scyfes, kawaii desu ne. I can't even learn her shit, because I'm fatigued by going through the first two phases over and over and over. Same with NK's dragon. Just stay dead, you cunts.

>>172040442
>waiting game
It's a waiting game until the boss launches at you at the speed of fucking light and ruins your day. I'm clearly not good enough for that. In fact, I don't think I'm wired for it. It's like a real-time version of those reaction games, where you press the button after waiting for a light to turn on or something, except, you know, fucking stupid.

I'm too old for this shit. I'm going to go play Tetris.

>>172040808
Seems fair to have a ranged DPS spell be endgame material for the casting class focused around everything BUT ranged DPS. If you had arrow early then you'd never use spear or stake and you'd just be a glorified lightning sorcerer

I guess the real question is how deep int he DLC you have to dive for it. Like, pyros get onyx in AoA without much effort and can use that for pretty much the whole game. Clerics can access TRC from Friede's bossroom, and they'll want to kill Friede ASAP for the flail since it's the best casting tool for 90% of the game anyways

>>172040823
It's possible for two models to use the same name, so it's not necessarily a confirmation either way, but this Gael ID corresponds to a model ID that's different from Gael's player model version. It would be possible for part of the fight to be player model Gael followed by monstrous Gael, or it could only be one part and just the new ID.

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>>172039115
You couldn't be more wrong. Dark spells don't have inherent scaling properties, their scaling depends on the staff casting them. When cast with a normal sorcery staff, they'll scale exactly as any other sorcery up to 60int and don't get any kind of penalty after 45. It's only when casting them with the Izalith Staff that they hit a brick wall after 45 in one or the other. Refer to the attached chart for proof.

Look at this video and you can see the Murky Longstaff outdamages the Court Sorcerer's Staff at 60int and 16fth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gReJlva-b7o

>>172039898
No, the weapon art costs a ton of FP, but it doesn't affect the cost of your spells.

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what does those ember icons mean?

>>172041142
You can learn NK though. His "float up and lunge" attack, assuming that's what you mean has his model twitch slightly before he actually lunges. That's your cue, right there.
I suck at him too, but you'll probably find that when you pull it off, it'll be an almost perfect victory.

>>172041262
What does reading comprehension mean?

>>172041262
>Угoль oзнaчaeт пpиcyтcтвиe хoзяинa yглeй

>>172041262
player activity.

>>172041262
Nobody knows yet, rest assured we've got the boys down in the lab working tirelessly to figure it out

>>172041262
I imagine the tooltip at the bottom will tell you.

>>172041262
Player activity around your range

>>172040839
Play 2.

2 honestly plays more like Demon Souls than Dark Souls 1, the atmosphere is just shit.

Why 2 is closer to DeS than DS1 is:
>Hub-world design with warping
>consumable health and spell use items
>focus on exploration, not bosses
>same damage formulas for elemental damage (DS2 physical damage is different)
>Weapons share movesets more, so you can focus on stats
>more softcaps and benefits from leveling up everything
>more areas in early game that you can go to, don't have to go down a normal path
>lots of skippable areas
>Stamina is more of a concern, slower-paced combat
>Bonfire ascetics are basically optional world tendency difficulty modifiers
>More knights/dragons/arthurian tales aesthetic instead of high fantasy aesthetic like DS1 was

The atmosphere and level design is worse in DS2, but the mechanics are closer to DeS.

Just use these tips:
1. Turn the lighting 2-3 clicks LOWER than what the game recommends. This way the torch mechanics (which are in almost every level) are actually worth using. The game is much better if you have to use a torch, as most levels were designed for it.
2. Turn the music 1-3 clicks HIGHER than the other effects. For some reason boss music (which is pretty good in DS2, and with more variety than DS1's OST) is really quiet in DS2.
3. Play SOTFS. There's no real reason to get DS2, and SOTFS has a lot of improvements that open the world up sooner and make the story more clear. (also has a lot of weird enemy placement choices,

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>>172040706
It was a magical time.

>>172040351
>Of existing, unused NPCs, it turns out 512000 SnakeSoul has "Evil Spirits" as its boss name
Wait, does this mean there is a fifth boss?

>>172041331
Fuck.

>>172040839
>>172041403
One more tip: burn bonfire ascetics whenever possible. Default game is really easy, but with bonfire intensity 2 it's about the same difficulty as DeS. Also, you get more rewards and items (like PBWT in DeS).

>>172041320
I'm referring to almost anything else he does. I was specifically referring to his "grab" attack, where he points his spear forward, low, and then lunges at you.

The one you mentioned can be avoided by going under him, so it's not much of an issue.

I honestly don't think it's worth it to try and solo him. Call me a shitter, but I'd rather be a shitter who's beaten a boss than someone who's not satisfied with their solo victory, but merely a little less angry. Hollow (haha) victories are so disappointing.

I had less trouble with the Princes in NG+, honestly. NK is just so aggravating to me.

>trying to see if power within can be good
>removes 30% of your HP over 15 seconds
>with lingering +2 this gets stretched to 21 seconds
>have 4 hp/s and 1386 hp
>will lose 15.8 hp/s for a total of 331.8 hp lost
>get 20% more damage
>need to be able to already do 1660 damage without power withing to actually remove as much additional HP as I lose from casting it
>opponents in unembered arena physically can't even have this much HP at 99 vig with life and favor
>any additional regen I cast gets slowed down by lingering dragoncrest
how can this spell be so bad

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I wish the update added the unfucked Greatsword of Artorias. It would be possible to replace the 3d model with the one of DaS1, but would get me banned. Back to crying in a corner I go.

>the icon was the unfucked sword but for some reason they made it the fucked sword

>>172040823

I don't like open helmets

>>172041653
doesn't the fucked sword match his armor better?

>>172041473
Possibly, but probably not. They could have straight up dusted off some existing assets and put it in as a boss, but it's just as likely this will be permanently unused content and I just didn't happen to find the name until now. I forgot to mention, 200000 BlackWolf also has the name "Ancient Wolf" associated with it.

Don't expect either Evil Spirits or Ancient Wolf in DLC2, but they feasibly could include them.

>>172041671
Then just don't use the hard leather chestpiece, it's kinda ugly anyway

What is the best Small Shield in DS3?
Because I'm not quite gay enough to use a Caestus

>>172041262
This must be bait. The only way you would be able to tell those icons are in fact supposed to be embers would be if you had read the tooltip. I congratulate you on your newfound (You) farming, and wish you all the luck in the world

>>172040351

GiantNorm might be one of the giants you see that summon archers

Manusu no doubt has to refer to Manus

>>172041826
Target Shield, always.

>>172041725
His armor has been cleaned of abyss but no restored. No cleansing shield. Nothing fits anything

How big(size) will the dlc patch be?

>>172041826
It doesn't matter that much. People usually use llewlyn, iron round, or sacred bloom.