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Maidcraft when?

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi
Since some retards keep removing it.

fuck ward
fucking stupid busted mechanic

>missing the pastebin

Whatnis your problem, dude?

It's official

AEGIS IGNORES TEST OF STRENGHT

You can proceed with your life.

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Wtf i hate haven now

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>>171827362
you're goddamn right

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Praise Eris and Aegis-Elana deck

>>171827316
does she hold a light saber?

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ToG will make Phoenix Roost viable

>>171827423
So when ToG comes out, I can just craft 3 Aeges and start pissing off people by playing Haven?

Aegis is going to be Tier 0 if it can go past wards btw

Can someone ask intern kun whether it get affected by wards thanks

>sneer at aegis, hugging onto their statuefu
>now worship the heavenly cock

Hagfags, everyone.

>>171827465
good luck to survive to turn 9-10

>>171827465
To be fair, you already piss some people off just by playing Haven already.

>>171827512
>rest of deck is heals wards and banishes

aegis is basically a seraph that doesnt need countdown triggers in your deck

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Daily reminder forest is killed. Every nerfed it has received is a mistake. Harvest Festival? No one uses it. Homecoming? Too slow to deal with turn 6 Daria. Roach forest? Wow a combo deck beating control decks that dont run wards and heal. Call me when dshift is nerfed.

>>171827560
You can piss someone off with any cratf though.

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oh look, ONLY NOW, people are finally understanding how aegis work, god damn you morons are dumb

>>171827574
yeah, and seraph dies not being able to drop seraph all the time

I for one am very happy that Aegis will replace Seraph in the new meta. You can at least play around that guy and not simply watch yourself die the next turn if you do not have Odin in hand.

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>>171827509
>now worship the heavenly cock
>Hagfags, everyone.
>Eris can't enjoy good lego from their own craft
what's wrong with it?

>>171827590
>harvest festival
ok

>homecoming
ok

>roach forest
Now you're just trying too hard.

>>171827459
So this one might confirm that if the first part of the effect doesn't work, then the second part doesn't work either, i.e. Khawy.

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>>171827590
that pic :3

>Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
>And the hunter home from the hill.

>>171827620
playing around how?

>this desperate dragonfags asking whether aegis get banished by lighting burst or not on twitter

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Really, the only thing that makes Aegis any good, is that Blue-Eyes White Dragon card being revealed.

If that wasn't a card, and Odin/Petrify was all that killed Seraph, it would still be a better choice than Aegis; however, if Dragon becomes a prominent deck that runs all of this Banishment, then Aegis will be the preferred win condition to Seraph. Seraph still looks better though.

>Aegis
They might as well given haven a HS weapon that has endless charges and takes no trade damage

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>>171827756
>playing around how?
by conceding or destroying their test of strength

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>>171827769
>b-but muh AoE
>b-but muh 8PP demonic strike
>b-but my craft finally being not so shitty

>>171827246
this thick doesnt even look good

>>171827769
I wonder what happen if pluto target aegis though, obviously aegis won't be destroyed but does pluto gain stats?

>>171827826
Kaiba Leader when?

>>171827646
Wards and heal hard counters roaches. It is always bad to nerf something that has hard counters. Daria and Albert Sword is the type of decks that is good vs everything. Dhisft is ten times more ridiculous vs control but it loses to unga bunga so people dont whine about it as much.

>>171827357
>>171827378
I made the thread.
I didn't even knew it was missing, why it was removed in the first place?

>>171827246
WHEN WILL NEW PACKS COME OUT


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171827826
well, what i like it's that playing aegis you can freely use healing prayers and dogmas if you still run them, instead of saving that shit

>consistently beat players 10000 score above me
>lose to people lower than me
?????

>>171827851
>might as well implement a new mechanic for one card
yeah, nah

https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=224

>>171827423
Wait, wasn't this obvious?

>>171827968
>Implementing at least one new mechanics for expansion
Why not

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t-thanks cygames

>>171827879
I think you do gain the attack stats.

Gaining the attack is not a result of destroying the follower. If it said, "Destroy an enemy follower, THEN add its attack and defense," that probably wouldn't work.

>>171827940
The higher your rank the more you just meme on ladder.

somebody should ask about aegis and wards

Just beat a complete control sword deck with my incomplete aggro blood deck

lul what a shitter

2 aurelias, 1 fortress general, and a veteran lancer couldn't stop me

Get fucked ward faggot

>>171827905
>why it was removed?

Autism.

>>171827995
>Heavenly Aegis is not new mechanic by itself

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>>171827980
>a new Take Two mode where you and your opponent can select each other’s decks

>>171827915
A good point I think. If you're gonna have Aegis as the main win condition, then the rest of your deck doesn't have to be held back by a bunch of combo pieces

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so?

>>171827980
Is this US time or JP time
I have no classes on the 29th JP time

>>171828087
>https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=224

Th-this can't possibly be real

wtf

>>171828023
i wouldn't trust their card text being so accurate to the code

it's pretty possible the spell won't work, have you tried it on a target immune creature?

>>171828087
Legitime question here. What does it mean?

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>>171827980
>a new Take Two mode where you and your opponent can select each other’s decks

>- Decks can be rearranged on the Decks screen

>- You will be able to spectate Take Two private matches

>- Update to pool of cards available when building a deck in Take Two

>Due to the addition of Tempest of the Gods, the chances of certain cards appearing during deck creation will be adjusted.

All these are great, probably a lot less bahamut, olivia, albert when the expansion bonus it's on

>>171827985
Some people are still in denial

>muh khawy
>muh bahamut

>>171828103
Dogma is still neat for pleas and tribunal and maybe arias.

>>171827980
>Due to the addition of Tempest of the Gods, the chances of certain cards appearing during deck creation will be adjusted.

>The cards that can appear will include all basic bronze cards of each class as well as the cards from Darkness Evolved, Rise of Bahamut, and Tempest of the Gods. Note that the bronze Havencraft card Manifestation of Faith won’t appear.

Standard is rotating out of Take 2? That'll be interesting.

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>>171828087
holy shit this one will be fucking awesome

>>171828176
Why cygames hate haven

>>171828176
No more otomemes? Wtf jewgames

Would this concept work with blood moon - maelstorm serpent:

Basically, it's kinda like OTK forest: only bapho is the drop, so gobu and feena can tutor it. The rest of your cards are making sure you live enough to pull serpent just in time to bail your ass.

>>171828176
>Note that the bronze Havencraft card Manifestation of Faith won’t appear.
Why? Just remove that card from the game, then.

>>171827756
>playing around how?

Warding
Healing
Pushing hard on them so that they have to attack your minions to not die the next turn
Ignoring him completely and focusing on his face because he will not kill you with one attack.

- New private match options: best of three, best of five, and a new Take Two mode where you and your opponent can select each other’s decks
These new match options can be selected when creating a private match.

this is cool

>>171828176
Probably they are copying the "expansion bonus" that Hearthstone uses to make cards from the newest expansion appear A LOT more in Arena.

I don't really think they would exclude an entire expansion.

>>171828176
No more class silvers also means no more evolve drops.

I really hope "basic bronze of each CLASS" means no neutrals. I'm so fucking tired of seeing Goliath/Desert Rider in my drafts.

>>171828072
>exclusive to a single legendary
>new mechanic

> - Randomization of cards played from your hand
> Whenever a player plays a card from their hand, that card will be placed at a random location from the opponent’s perspective.

hm, will it affect amulets popping?

>>171827980
>- Randomization of cards played from your hand
>Whenever a player plays a card from their hand, that card will be placed at a random location from the opponent’s perspective.
That's not a good thing, how can I count Dshit spellboosted cards now?

>>171828312
>liza
>lecia

>Decks can be rearranged on the Decks screen
FUCKING FINALLY

>>171828176
>no more Mordecai
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>171828087
this sounds super fun

>>171828341
Truly the shadowcaust

Who is ready to play Arena with 50% less cancer?

Sure there's still Albert, Bahamut and Olivia, but at least no more fucking Mordecai or Floral.

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- Randomization of cards played from your hand
Whenever a player plays a card from their hand, that card will be placed at a random location from the opponent’s perspective.

What's the point of this?

>- Randomization of cards played from your hand
Was this needed? I thought this is a legitimate feature added to give a higher skillcap to this already braindead game.

>>171828276
I like that they're adding private match stuff but holy fuck they need to add ingame chat and lobbies already. How is anyone supposed to find other people that want to play these modes?

>>171828176
They're only doing this because Kripp complained on-stream when his T2 Shadow opponent had Mordecai and he couldn't do anything about it.

>>171828387
Most of the time it went off so much I couldn't really tell which card is it anyway.

>>171828137
It's a private game mode so it's literally just a "just for fun" game mode

>>171828334
>exclusive to a single card*
>new mechanic

>>171828380
So you're supposed to select junk for the other guy or?

>>171828440
>much
fast*

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>>171828436
But they printed a banish for dragon now, so it's okay

>>171828386
What's the point of your life?

CHECKM8

>>171828440
I didn't even know it followed physical pattern.

>>171828387
so, i am lost, what does it even mean?

>>171828383
Sorry to disappoint you but floral is basic.

>>171828440
It's easier to check if it's a topdeck answer or not, which was pretty helpful.

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>no more mordecai on T2
will shadowbabs ever recover from the shadowcaust on ToG?

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>>171828491

>>171828341
Mordecai has been way too rare to be that relevant these days anyway. Arena Husbando Andras is still safe, and that's what matters.

>>171828549
like i said a few threads ago, if i dont get an animated minthe in my first chunk of packs, im done with this game

>>171828452
Oh, got it.

>>171828523
Currently, you'll know the order at which the opponent drew the cards they played by remembering its position before play. This helps in reading what your opponent has. Looks like they're making it random so you can't check it anymore.

>>171828549
You realize that Zombie Party is a common, right?

List all the good cards gone from T2.

>your deck list can be shared via Twitter
People still use twitter?

>>171827316
>that legs
HNGGGG

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>>171828665
hey guys check out this sick deck i made, will get you to masters in no time

>>171828652
Every class evolve drop, for starters.

>>171828665
I follow many Japanese camwhores and hentai artists there.

>>171828258
I forgot that card even existed. Literally have not seen it a single time since it actually became playable.

>>171828704
>getting fucked by 2 tigers
how can she handle it?

Will the new take two mode only be available in friendly matches? Not in arena?

>>171828723
These are basic, you don't get them from packs

>>171828787
Y

>>171828791
Basics have rarities. Every basic over 3 mana is silver.

Note how it says "basic bronze cards" not "basic cards" will be included.

>>171828120
JST. Conversion to PST yields 2 AM finish on the maintenance, so you have all of the 29th and the 30th before new season starts on the 31st.

>>171828638
What possible reasons could they have for doing this?

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>no more morde
>no more death's breath

>>171828860
>caring about Luna's rares
I'm more sad to see Undead King going away.

>>171828880
>undead king
We have Zombie Party now tho.

There's still no generic counter to silver bolt in ToG, yeah? You have to be Sword to get Durandal, I can't think of anything else that affects it.

>>171828848
To make play more casual? Who knows.

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I just noticed that the maintenance will be 10 hours.

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16712
No concede.
>>171828989
Timeless witch?

>>171829005
At least there's no new mechanic to make maintenance take 72 hours.

>>171828848
It mimics real TCGs better, where your can keep shuffling your hand.

>>171829023
Ah yeah. Runecraft with the redundant save as always.

>>171828989
Keep your health at 20 :^)

>>171828989
the new blood gold could potentially counter it, can't really tell because of how they fuck up translations.

>>171828989
There's that new blood amulet that essentially serves as an extra HP bar.

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ok, some cool stuff will be on the patch, great, but WHERE THE FUCKING FUCK ARE THE NEW SKINS DAMN IT?! I FUCKING HATE LATHAM AND I DON'T WANNA USE A LESBIAN MAID SLUT

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>>171829063
I had a guy hit me with 3 bolts in one turn once. It was wunnerful.

>>171829064
>>171829116
Good point. Blood confirmed new control master race.

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Why are so many Rowens worried about Aegis? With ramp and healing it should be easy to out face Aegis decks without playing a single storm minion. The real enemy still is and always will be D-Shit.

>>171828772
I don't know what Cygames is thinking with that card.

>>171829145
Is anyone worried about it? All I ever see is people making fun of haven.

>>171828989
I really don't get why people do not complain about it more. It's 18 dmg from hand on T9 with no counter to it. It's worse than Seraph.

>>171829131
>not wanting to use lesbian maid slut

You gay or something bro?

>>171829005
free packs?

>>171829131
You'll get to use a Chink whore soon

>>171829023
But let me win, wtf dude. I even picked a shitty deck for this.

>>171829056
>not keeping track of cards even when your opponenet shuffles
git gud

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Good/Decent/Broken cards removed from Arena:

Forest
>May
>Nature Guidance
>Roach
>Pixie Mischief
>Woodkin Curse
>Ancient Elf
>Elven Princess Mage
>Robin Hood
>Will of the Forest
>Fairy Beast
>Fairy Princess
>Archelon
>Rose Queen

Sword
>Literally 90% of sword ENTIRE early game
>Aurelia
>Ironwrought Fortress
>Giant Slayer
>Otohime
>Tsubaki
>Alwidas
>Frontward
>Dragonewt Charlotte

Runecraft
>90% of their first generators
>90% of their spellboost spell shit
>kaleido
>removal
>mithril golem

Dragon
>90% of dragon early game AND ramp
>all their charge minions
>forte
>fafnir
>genesis
>most big guys

Shadowcraft
>90% of their early game and sticky minions
>mordecai
>death breath
>all their draw power
>cerberus

Blood
>all their early game and vampires
>queen vampire

Haven
>all their amulets
>most of their healing
>THERMIS
>moon rabbit

Neutral
>all the fat wards
>most vanilla early drops
>satan
>gabriel
>lucifer
>gilgamesh

Along Floral Fencer and all the other broken 4 drops.
Like some crafts lost A LOT of bad cards from their card pools, but others like Sword and Dragon lost all their fundations.

>>171829181
Eidolon memes

Guys, what if they made a single-player Shadowverse tactics game with a deep story?

You can choose to ally yourself with several different Gods at the start of the story which will determine the unique classes you can level up your units into. There are still generic classes though but they will have unique skills depending on your God. You can also capture or hire non-human units in town or in the wild.

Forgot to mention that the campaign story can change significantly depending on who you choose at the beginning of the game. Playing multiple times will help reveal hidden sides and scenes of the story you would never know if you only play once.

ALSO forgot to mention, with nude options and more lesbianism.

BUT ALSO, with husbandos.

BUT ALSO ONE MORE THING, they can add thick lolis.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, they can BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

I think it would sell really well

>>171829192
It's 9pp and can't be played if you're in a losing position
It's not a tempo card that does something, it's just a tool to end grindy control battles

Your win condition is to survive for a ridiculous amount of turns and slap this guy down once you've bled your opponent dry of threats

I guess it wins against dirt rune though

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>>171829326
sword got fucked big time, but they completely deserved this

>>171829338
We will never seen that in play on ladder. And now that it's sealed in take two, I wonder why does it even exist.

>>171829326
I doubt this will improve arena, but it'll make it interesting again I suppose since deck building changes for a lot of classes

>>171829326
>no alwidas
Haha holy shit, is this real? I can't wait to shit on sword in T2.
FORMAT CHANGE FOR RANKED WHEN, THIS COULD SAVE SHADOWVERSE

>>171829326
What the fuck does haven even do now? Pray you get seraph or aegis and somehow live to play them?

>>171829326
don't forget all the removal that gets taken out

>>171829394
It's slightly faster than Santa! Baby steps for Eris.

>>171829537
But Grail is faster than Aegis! Checkmate, atheists.

>>171829394
>I guess it wins against dirt rune though
Not it pascale rune comes back

>>171829537
>faster than santa
But santa has ward in sunshine satan, which makes it faster than aegis

Just because it's 9 pp you won't have a good time dropping this T9

>>171829537
Eris gives no baby steps. Jewgames is playing with fire.

>>171829559
So is Seraph.
But MAKE HASTE SLEPNIR and Rowen killed those.

(RIP Statuefu)

>>171829627
I hope we live to see the set where seraph comes back as a living angel legendary follower.

>all those wasted tickets testing stuff next season

>>171829394
>It's 9pp and can't be played if you're in a losing position
8th turn test of strength + 5pp
9th turn Aegis

checkmate Rowen/Alberto

>>171829595
Sun Satan got something in ToG, but if people start playing amulet removal to stop muh serpents the deck will suffer.

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no more getting cucked out of going 5-0 in arena by constructed unga shitters

>>171828772
That shit wins games in T2, espiecially if you baha next turn, lol.

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>All these retards thinking people will keep picking sword in t2
I doubt we will see sword in t2 after the update.
Not that I care, already have a full collection and now my tickets are just sitting there forever.

>>171829754
Who would you pick now?

>forest is going to be amazing in T2 now
Where is your god now?

>>171829776
Are you suggesting your mom?

>>171829776
Haven!

>>171829674
Next expac will have a 3pp leggo that halves amulet cost so you can Seraph on T4.

(And the one after that will have 3pp amulet banish)

>>171829326
uh I don't see Bahamut or Olivia on this list

Dragon will be god tier T2 pick now. Most vanilla cards were meh, salamander is a fine replacement for Conflag. The only thing you really lose is oracle/aiela, and you often didn't draft them anyway.

>Ouro
>Sibyl
>Lightning Memes

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>it's a "every deck you play bricks today" episode

Even the fucking aggro bat give me the only 2 6pp card on going first. Fuck this shit.

>>171829776
blood seems like a good pick since their base cards are trash but their expansion cards are usually decent

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>>171829776
What do you think

>>171829846
Oracle is basic anon
Only aiela is standard

>>171829916
Oh well that makes it even more silly

>>171829493
>>171829410
>>171829754
Not gonna lie, most of the early game from the other expansions (DE, ROB, TOG) is super weak except for some broken exceptions.

Like Levi is basically the new floral fencer, and you will start to see more Clarks, Craigs and Oglers since they are all that remains of rune early game.
There's a big ass chance people will start to see constructed Daria more often.

>>171827246
Reminder that someone needs to fix the OP and add all the missing info.

>>171829929
Be ready to draft 5 siegfrieds and 5 dragon warriors every time

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>>171829326
>Along Floral Fencer and all the other broken 4 drops.
It's my waifu's time to shine!

>>171829843
ROB and DE cards are staying.

>>171829981
Oh nvm dragon warrior is FUGGIN silver

Guess it's only siegfrieds then

A lot of the newer cards are discard based theme though, so that might get intresting

>>171830014
What's the fucking point then. The only thing wrong with take-two is Bahamut and Olivia.

>>171830064
Just win before turn 9 haha it's easy bro

>>171829754
Shadow still has some good sticky followers and more board flood from ToG, early game is as though and we lost all the finishers like Cursed Soldier and Andras.

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HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE BROS
>Roost
>Next turn Disaster dragon, Zell+Evo, Arriet
>3 + 1 + 4 = 8pp total cost + evo
>6 + 8 = 14 damage + a huge board
>Genesis ready next turn

What cards are you looking forward to the most in the new expansion?
Blood moon for me. I know everyone is talking about T6 serpents, but I'm interested if this will make bloods other vengeance cards like lab devil or moriana playable.

So everything prior to DE gets the axe EXCEPT non-neutral basic bronzes right

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>>171830171
>Roost
>>Next turn

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Was playing Vania/Vampy the correct play here?

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>>171830175
ambush sword memes

>>171830175
baphomet, i want to try to make azazel memes viable.

>>171830230
playing this shit retarded loli is never the right play, remove from deck and liquify

>>171830171
Might as well just Genesis into double Urd if you're going to go through the trouble.

>>171830230
you have 2 2's in hand, easy veight.

>>171830230
I think yes. Wolf dies to pings which rune runs in abundance.

>>171830175
Gawain and Support Cannon. Support Cannon looks pretty interesting to use since it's kinda like playing a spell and putting out bodies at the same time. Gawain seems to be highly anticipated right now but it seems like a card you have to use to see if it's any good.

When will they fucking nerf ancient elf ?

IM SO FUCKING SICK OF SEEING THIS 5/6 WARD ON T3 THEN ANOTHER FUCKING 6/6 RUSH WARD ON T5

>>171830326
shouldn't you evolve the wolf to avoid levi + snipe clearing most of your board if you evo a vampy?

>opponent plops down Daria on t4

Retarded garbage

>>171830239
>>171830332
>Playing amulet based decks after TotG
Good fuckin luck

stop spamming webms

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>>171829326
>tfw 3 away from taker of two
I can't afford to play arena this much, I don't have the time.

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>>171829825
How can i even recover.

>>171830313
That's nowhere near as fun

>>171830171
>Luminous Banner
>Luminous Banner
>Luminous Banner
>Albert
>Albert
>Albert
Thanks for the game.

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>>171830410

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Need a concede please

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>>171828329
>>171828386
>>171828387
Have you guys never played a card game in real life? Opponents pretty much always constantly shuffle the cards in their hand so you can't track them anyway.

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35438

please concede to me!

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>tfw everything I know about T2 is now for naught
How many tickets will we burn to learn this thing all over again?

>>171830726
Thanks papa morde!

>>171830830
thank you kind anon!

>>171830835
It's not like you're going to go from regular 5-0s and 4-1s to suddenly losing all 5.

Just figure out which crafts suffered the least from the changes and draft like usual. Does take a bit to recall which cards you no longer need to play around I guess but that's it.

>>171830835
Nothing has changed friend. Pick bahamut and build your deck around your opponent having bahamut and collect your free wins.

Someone craft me a good commander deck for ToG. Gawain and Roland will sure be there. Albert as well. Can Leo fit?

>>171830739
Oh, so that's why players do that. I've watched MTG tournament streams and seen people constantly shuffling their cards in their hand, but I thought it was a like a nervousness thing.

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- New card pack Tempest of the Gods added
- Multiple cards can now be liquefied at the same time
- New private match options: Best of 3, Best of 5, or select your opponent's deck
- Decks can now be rearranged on the Decks screen
- You can now spectate Take Two private matches
- Your deck list can now be shared via Twitter
- Cost for the Enhance ability will be displayed
- Improvements to the battle log
- The order of cards in your hand will now appear randomized to your opponent
- Update to the pool of cards available when building a deck in Take Tw

Why cygames is improving the game/ui?

>>171830365
>3/2017
>still complain about the least played class
>When Sadistic night, Tribunal, Necro Assasin exists

>>171831069
>- The order of cards in your hand will now appear randomized to your opponent
Wait, why?

That actually removes an element of strategy from the game. Now you won't know if they're holding onto some card since turn one or not.

Other than that, they're probably going for the esports meme more seriously now after realizing that Hearthstone could do it too.

What if going first still got you 3 evolves, but the third one was delayed by X number of turns

>>171831196
To stop the butthurt from topdeck lethal

>>171831069
>No Shadowverse related leaders.
>No SFV leaders.
Do they hate money? It's time for new leaders.

>>171831047
I think you'll need a Leo or 2 if you want a big boom from your cannon.

>>171831196
Magic players shuffle newly drawn cards into their hands, probably trying to emulate that

Need a concede

29152

>>171831196
>Now you won't know if they're holding onto some card since turn one or not.
That's already how it works in Magic

>>171831271
Thank you anon

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>>171830321
>>171830326
Wolf + Ambling Wrath or Veight?
He used Kaleidoscopic Glow to bounce Wolf and Wrath in turn 2 and 3.

Need a concede.
49036

>>171831069
>Unable to resume the match when crashes
>Unable to check Token cards's voice and description

Useless update.

>>171831243
This sis the reason why I don't understand why poeple think support cannon is bad. They're even saying it's unplayable.

Fucking how. Tell me /svg/ since you guys are good. I don't know what I'm missing.

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So it's reverse banner?

>>171831353
Thanks Vampy-chan.

>>171831364
Lightning blast

>>171831343
Wolf and ambling again

>>171831343
Veight. Next turn if he didn't kill it you evolve him and hit face. If he did kill it, then you play wolf, evolve and hit face.

>>171831196
We shuffle even playing poke

>>171831157

>t. sub master scum

>>171831476
Well yeah, offline you do.

>>171831436
>>171831447
I went for Wrath and Wolf. He used a 3 damage wind blast to remove the Wolf, so I guess that was the correct play.

SHADOWVERSE PORTAL UPDATE WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171831412
That's it. Meaning every card is hair now then because of one card? So why are we still here if everything that people will ask will just get a reply of lightning blast.

>>171831343
>He used Kaleidoscopic Glow to bounce Wolf and Wrath in turn 2 and 3
kaleidoing a follower with fanfare burn and a follower with storm as d-shift

sounds legit

>>171830365
When they finally make every class as difficult to play as forest.

>>171830365
>Letting 3 1/1s alive by turn 3
What the fuck

>>171831391
I Am Gay: The Amulet

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>>171831646

>>171831568
I dunno, blame cygames for printing an obviously insane card that shuts down several deck archetypes just because the class was underpowered.

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>>171827246

>>171831525
You made the correct play. Your own life total doesn't matter vs rune, so repeatedly playing wolves is fine.

If he bounced wolf back to your hand that means he doesn't have missile/snipe which are the only clean answers rune has to wolf. T4 double vania + evo is the play in most cases.

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unica on turn 2, blitz lancer to remove my yurius on turn 3, then this

guess who won :^)

>>171830365
Why the fuck are you allowing fairies to be alive by turn 3? That's retarded. Are you stupid?

>>171831619
Not my fault if people in A0 are retarded

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>"tempo" rune

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>>171831646


I bet you think playing SD synchro OTK in yugioh was difficult too

>>171831646
I don't think it's possible unless we all suddenly become retarded and start having difficulties with addition :^)

>>171831498
>t. unga go face

>>171830365
A 5/6 turn 3 AE is literally a 4 card combo. I think that's preferable to what Daria can vomit out on T3 with 4 specific cards.

>>171831851
not that bad, he is almost out of steam unless the last card is daria and you have vampy and summon bloodkin

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>>171831772
>>171831772
>they are crying about dragon meta

>>171831823
Actually no much he can do if elf goes first and hes missing 1 drop. But still, triple 1-drops+AE is pretty rare hand.

>>171831812
You? They only have 3 cards and 1 evolve. Unless you got hit with an Alwida's next turn.

>>171831772
They should have made it.

T6 = destroy 1.
Enhance 10 = Banish all.

>>171831851
Just Demonic Storm it, bruh

Just kidding. God, that's some lame luck you got there.

>>171831851
>Play Vania
>Evolve her
>Remove Oogler
>Play summon bloodkin

It's not like you lost already, he ran out of cards, so hope he doesn't have/get Daria in time and you might come back if you control the board.

>Spiderweb Imp and mask of the black death in the same set

y tho

>>171831823

>he thinks he can get 1 pp follower and 2pp removal every time for every deck in this RNG ridden shithole

>>171831995
>remove ogler
>get fucked by that Levi
Nice plan.

>>171829326
basic bronzes aren't leaving. early game is still mostly intact

>>171831928
"One shadowbab is a tragedy, all shadowbabs are a statistic" - Josef Rowen

>>171831969
That's what I'm saying. That's so damn rare. Like really rally rare. I've played forest a lot and I was able to do 3 fairies to AE maybe only twice? I dunno, he makes it sound like it always happens to him.

>>171831891

>implying

Either you're one of those treefucker player yourself or you're just at rank too low.

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What would a full neutralcraft deck even look like?
goblin x3
merman x3
valkyrie x3
sektor x3
unica x3
grimnir x3
khaiza x3
4pp 7/7 x3
teena x3
goblin princess x3
DoD/cocytus/execution x2
sahaquiel x3
Israfil x3
Zeus x2

???

>>171831991
I had 2 life left by turn 6. Fun.

>>171831969
read his post again
>t5 Tia
clearly elf went second

>>171832052
Why are you playing if you are complaining about draws now? It's a card game. You should have known by now that card draw is rng.

>>171832103
>The commie thief was actually one of many Rowen's Red Dragon Army goons
It makes so much sense now.

Rowen orchestrated this long ago. He made Luna's life miserable and drove her to insanity, only to give her a small glimmer of hope with Nep, and now he's going for the last blow.

>>171831772
>class is bad
>print strong cards to bring it in line with other classes
>"woooow it was supposed to stay bad cygames wtf"

>>171832059
Got a better one? He said the best thing you could have done in this situaton. You didn't expect to have vania on board for more than one turn did you?

>>171832059
Yes, the correct play was Vania + Bloodkin + hit Levi.

Of course that didn't stop the Piercing Rune on Vania's face (and mine) turn 5, sadly.

Can we even suck Rowen's dragon? I mean, there's a dragon inside him.

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OTK roach was the only deck where I actually spent hours looking back at my replays and asking myself what I could have done better. I know for a fact I wasn't the only one. Many of you in this thread did the same and would post replays frequently asking for advice when you got stumped. I wouldn't be surprised if not a single sword player has ever done this. Not even once. This midrange sword deck nets a better, more well rounded winrate than otk ever did, and for how much work? You just play your storm minions on curve over and over again. If you win, great! If not, oh, too bad, you didn't get the best draws so it isn't your fault. These is no "oh, I could have improved this play".
There is no debating if you should play out the incomplete combo, just to scare your opponent away from playing seraph, or going face when you can't remove their board. You just drop albert and hope for the best.
There is no critical decisions on the combination of may, wotf, and pixie mischief. You just play tsubaki and then go face.
You don't hold onto a card because it will be useful to you 5 turns later. You just play your minions on curve. It will work out for you 55% of the time, and when it doesn't? No sweat! There was literally nothing you could have done. No room for improvement! It's not your fault!
Many people here say otk had a win rate of 70% but that is false. One master ranked player had that win rate and everyone else had a 52% at best. Funny right? A guy who practiced and analyzed his deck, constantly perfecting it and studying his replays managed to get a 70% win rate. Isn't that what you want in a card game? A skilled player, who puts forth effort wins the majority of the time while everyone else playing his exact deck has the win rate of a coin flip? That is what every card game should strive for. But they killed it, just so the average joe who couldn't care less about studying a game can win automatically 55% of the time. As long as he's climbing, he's happy.

Will standard ever rotate out?

>>171832149
iktf bruh

>>171832104

How the fuck is it rare ? Even a fucking "control" forest has like nine 1 pp cards they can play,one of which instantly generate 2 fairies. The fucking deck is literally opposite of brick haven unlike other control decks.

>>171831769
>>171831868
>>171831873

You know it is truth. Forest is the least popular class. Unlike other classes that have a lot of on curve cards forest have numerous options every turn. Most players are intimidated by this and avoid forest. /svg/ is living proof. No one talks about forest decks except salt. Even websites like gamepress has no one that play forest because it rayed otk and wolfbolt as tier 2 but their listed decks are complete shit. You would be lucky if you had 50% winrate at master.

>I hate forest missions I dusted all my forest cards

Every fucking time.

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>>171832252
You are mildly autistic. Roach math is 1st grader stuff, if you actually have to try so hard to win then playing aggro sword might be a chore for you.

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>>171832178
I think he got the last blow though.

>>171832252
want to know the difference between a high masters sword player and one in A rank?

one has played longer

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>>171831978
i *was* hit by alwida's the next turn... and then by the frontguard

but yeah, i have won

>>171828118
Whatever you want because I have them turned off.

>>171832252
>Many of you in this thread did
I didn't, PtP cancer. You can go now.
Good bye.

>>171832186
"Calamitous curse that also affects amulets and has no health requirement or setup" is a little bit more than "strong"

>>171832251
I have no idea why they have not made Black Dragon Rowen skin

Can someone give me some copies of Atomeme to meme with

>>171832252
Forest is fine, you shitter. Wolfbolt is very strong at the moment.

>>171832252
>But they killed it

OTK roach isn't dead though.

>>171832305
That's because you're new. AAA is also filled with them nowadays, iirc.

>>171832167

>backpedalling by stating the obvious

I was not the retard who first brought up stupid shit like "just always kill fairies bro,its easy"

And anyway if you play a fucking aggro you already lose when you have to always trade fairies just to prevent that AE from getting bullshit buff.

>>171832306
>play storm minion every time
>always unga face
>if you get controlled then reserve evolve for turn 9 Albert
>win hurrrr

Sword is the mind poision

>>171832305

>being this much of an uninformed scrub

>>171832252
>>171832305
Forestnigger tears sustain me

>>171832345
It's 10PP

>>171832305
I avoid forest because I fucking hate elves and fairies. Fuck your shitty craft and its terrible aesthetics and generic moe uguu leader.

>>171831196
if they want to go with that direction then they should provide that information in the UI instead of making it a real-time observation and memory chore

>>171832324
what's happening here?

>>171832886
In a class that can ramp.

>>171832404
When was the last time you lost to a wolfbolt?
How often does it happen?
>>171832416
How often do you get otk?
>>171832335
>ptp cancer
>ptp
You must be playing a completely different game.
>>171832306
If it's easy stuff why did everyone have a 52% win rate except for the very best who had significantly more? A master sword player has the same win rate as an A ranked one.

>>171832297
If you use that generating spell you have 2 faries into AE. He is talking about 3 fairies into AE which requires 3x1PP follower to be played. It's a rare setup.

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>>171832883
This is what happens when a tier 1 class since the creation of this game becomes tier 2 for half an expansion

>>171832912
yeah it isn't because it requires thinking
it's just to moe for you while playing an anime game from nip land
right
back to your match of curvestone sword kiddo

>>171832345
I bet you're one of those faggots who kept saying dragon was fine at 45% winrate.

It wasn't, and a few okay cards weren't going to change that. This just might but we will have to see. It does jack shit against Sword and the other cards we got aren't dealbreakers there either so we might not even become T1 for all we know unless the meta changes a lot.

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>last match and last move was a DoD to get an evolved Albert (who thought he was safe to go face) to fuck off

Very nice

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>>171832439
I am not arguing about difficulty level of aggro sword. I am simply stating that roachmath isn't a rocket science. In fact many learn addition before starting school.

It's just that i am extremely tired of former aggro roach players complaining about other decks and saying that their bullshit was fine because it is "hard to play". No, it's not. The only reason why there are not many forest mains is because of Ancient Elf. Faction is so fucked up that you simply can't play it without 3 copies of that bullshit card. There are no cheap alternatives to both her and roach that players who don't want to commit 10500+2400 dust can play to try faction out.

Also roach isn't a cute girl, fuck that too.

>>171832947
So? It's still 10PP which you are comparing to a damn 4PP or 6PP with a 'setup' consisting of something the deck always has on board. It's a balanced card, stop complaining.

>>171833021
I know you're baiting based on how you write, but yes, I actually also base my choice of craft on whether or not I like the look of the cards and the general theme of the craft. Forest is my absolute least favourite craft, right down there with sword. I'd rather play a T3 deck than Albertcraft and le ebic futameido, or watch Arisa have sex with roaches. There's not a single forest card I like in terms of how they look.

I watch Chinese cartoons as much as the next guy here and I play my qt grill cards as well but Forest a shit. A SHIT.

>>171832948
>When was the last time you lost to a wolfbolt?
Most elf players are wolfborks here, and they generally beat me. Fucking bolt.

Back to roach, its stupidly high consistency WAS an issue.

"You better win by turn 7 or have multiple wards" was BS enough to shut down too many decks.

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>>171832948
I haven't been against Wolfbolt in quite a while but I play it myself and do well.

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>>171833058
>I bet you're one of those faggots who kept saying dragon was fine at 45% winrate.
Not really, actually I was one of those who pointed out how ridiculous it was for shadow to have a 75% winrate against ramp dragon.
It doesn't change the fact that lightning blast is an insane card that shuts down not only nep shadow, but several other deck archetypes that ramp dragon already shat on (most notably amulet based decks).
Dragon needed help sure. Did it need the most broken removal spell in the game?

>>171831157
>least played class
Kek

>>171833021
>it requires thinking
>"mom I solved a basic math today !"

Awww Do you want a pat on the head too ?