/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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Actual first for report & hide all Kniggers

>>171628334
actual second for /kspg/

>spent the last few days playing tons of dying light
That game has some comfy moments, especially when it starts raining at night.

I never knew how much I wanted a more military oriented 3d factorio with weather cycles.

>>171628334
i swear all those spikes makes me feel uncomfortable

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Fif for idk

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Just passing through.

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Good night /egg/
Stay safe

>>171634815
this gave me a brilliant idea.
Imagine, if you will, a world where tanks don't have flat treads, but rather, loads and loads of wheels instead.
Maximum tonk sanic.

Do we have a new spengies server

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>>171634931
You're thinking about APCs.

>>171635856
No, no.
Not that.
A tonk where instead of flat slats making up the track, each part of the track is a motorized wheel.

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So I did a survival start on Mars. Mined, put hydrogen thrusters on my spawn ship and go into orbit and see pic related.

Mars has a giant mountain or pimple.

>>171636168
*Asshole with piles

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>>171636218
What?

>>171636284
It's obviously a giant asshole with severe hemorrhoids

>>171636074
.... Please do draw something up. I'd like to see you attempt this.

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>>171637758

>>171638370
So you're gonna put rollers on instead of tread links? And you're going to power them somehow??

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sounds retarded
guess you could replace the rubber pads on tank tracks with tube rollers?

>>171638657
Not actually rollers, that was the best example of what I'm going for.
Two sets of wheels on either side of the thingies the gears on the treads go into, powered by stronk electric motors.

There's no way in hell you could get any power from the engine to all of those in any manner resembling efficiency. Electric motors would probably be the most feasible if all of those are going to be moving, but you're not going to get any significant torque out of that.

No matter which way you slice this, you're not going to get more speed or traction than wheels or treads.

>>171638912
There's a reason why I opened with "Imagine, if you will, a world where,"

>>171638968
Oh, alright. Yeah I mean if you had some handwavium power supplies for a bunch of unobtanium electric motors, it might be feasible.

>>171639103
>one motor slightly varies
>instant implosion

>no /egg/ where you mess with the "laws" of reality through autism and engineering

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>farming in mengies requires moving machines to plow, plant, and harvest things
>spengies is magic blocks
What if manufacturing and refining in spengies used real moving parts?

>>171641306
>What if manufacturing and refining in spengies used real moving parts?

>Have a field that i want to plow to plant seeds
>Use a machine that uses rotating parts to plow
>Suddenly, CLANG

Eh, it could be fine

>>171641797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqKO7TxuNxY
Imagine

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32nd for transparent orange chainsaws

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>have a "woah nigga you expect me to read all that shit" level of ideas for spengies gameplay redesign
>don't know if a nigga would be willing to read all that shit

>>171642667
Im not a nigga but i'll read it

>>171643115
I'll shit in a piratepad after I get done eating

>>171642076
that music is absolutely cancerous

>>171643115
Shitting beginning
http://piratepad.net/3EbSx7W9zL

>>171631919
The absolute madman. I would never ever do such a thing with my legos. When i accidentally drop them on the floor of a 10 square meters almost empty room they vanish into nothingness like they never existed at all, sometimes they make me quesion my own existence or the reality of the world i live in.
This man is bringing his bricks in an environment with several hundreds orders of magnitude higher risk of losing them.

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>>171634931
you mean a CLANG monster like this?
It dosent work.

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>>171631919
The major achievement of that thing is the size. The technique is poor, horrible studding, the airplanes are ugly, the AWACS looks insultingly bad, the 75 is a sticker rather than using bricks, the comms stack is literally the same block stacked 20 times, and the dudes running around aren't even properly suited/matched.

But hey, it's a big lego aircraft carrier, so that is kinda cool. Judging from the parts, this was built about 10 to 15 years ago, so some things were a bit more limited, especially in the SNOT department. And, for what it's worth, it's compatible with the general LEGO product line.

5/10, it's big.

>>171646586
>always wanted to get back into lego
>but the prices are too high
Also I still have nightmares about looking for that one piece that you saw one second ago but now can't find at all

>>171635856
Isn't the MGS1128 Stryker an AFV/FSV? That configuration of the Piranha cannot transport any personell other than the crew operating the vehicle itself, and if I recall correctly, they have cooling vests because they'd otherwise pass out from overheating. Still, 105mm of freedom.

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>>171646653
You should try some delicious microscale building, anon.

>>171646875
Reminds me of the ships from House of the Dying Sun

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>looking over the ideapad
>mechanical block painter
Indaresdding

>>171636168
that's olympus mons, you spaz
the unolyth is there (first of the monolyths)
>>171644743
clang was with you the whole time, even from the very start
>>171645480
>thrusters on ground vehicle
what kind of a pleb are you?
>>171635434
that was not me, but ditto. this time with more than 3% simspeed pls

/egg/ based around engineering the perfect vodka

>>171649648
>vodka
Lel. This scrub doesn't even make moonshine.

>>171649978
>doesn't know moonshine can be vodka
lulz

>>171650460
>doesn't specifically make sure his moonshine is as far away from poor slavshit as possible
lool

>>171649648
>>171649978
>>171650460
>>171650645
>drinking ethanol
>not methanol

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>>171650760
>drinking ethanol
>not methanol
>This faggot DRINKS his booze instead of selling it for 800% profit.

Jesus, man.

>>171650858
Wrong, I drink the methanol and sell the ethanol

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>>171650895
>he doesn't run his car off it

Just gets worse and worse.

>>171651005
>he hasn't infected himself with alcohol powered nanomachines
Cars are physician tier

>>171648549
Everyone here is already watching /egg/spanse.

Also, it's not like he'll have to worry about that arm anymore.

>>171652127
>Everyone here is already watching /egg/spanse.
I'm not.

>>171652171
DO IT FAGGOT

Seriously, this shit's good. I binged on it over the weekend, and I can't wait for next what is it, Wednesday?

>>171648549
REMEMBER THE CANT

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>>171652261
>Seriously, this shit's good. I binged on it over the weekend, and I can't wait for next what is it, Wednesday?

>tfw you're A FUCKING LEAF, so you have to pirate it or sign up for a shitty clone of hulu and a tv package

>tfw you don't own a fucking tv

>tfw you honestly cannot be fucked to pirate the second season

>tfw they litterally stole the flood from halo, and the very big bad evil government is boring as fuck

Why do scifi writers have to steal this shit? They can do L I T T E R A L L Y anything and they choose to gibsmedat.

>>171652472
>you're a leaf
I thought you could watch this shit on space.ca?

Plus, the government isn't all that evil. Just corrupt. As for the Flood, that shit reminded me more of the Beast.

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>>171652472
>a fucking leaf

>>171648549
>use ebin lmaoo cranes to handle ice
>screw the torque needed to move bigass ice shard, they don't even feel the need to secure this shit
>fuckfuge part of crushed ice doesn't even dent the structure
>having personnel outside safe zones while at work...

I don't think I want to watch this show...

As long as people are watching the /egg/spanse, people should watch Royal Space Force

Red dorf best spess show

>>171652686
>not just enjoying it and chalking up all the mistakes to writers and ebin futuretech

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>>171652686
If it makes you feel any better, they're basically space gypsies. They even have their own warped version of english.

>>171652597
I'm not going to get up at a specific time to watch their bullshit, I'm going to binge it or nothing. All they have for me to stream right now is some articles written by an idiot and this shit

>>171652863
>space gypsies
>working
now you totally killed it

>>171652809
I get fucking annoyed by every dropped ball in pogeymen, do you think I am sane enough to put shit of that calibre away?

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>start accelerating at around 1g
>phase through the ship almost immediately under thrust
>get up to 3000 m/s
>floating point errors jolt the entire ship forward every few seconds
I just want muh sanic

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>>171651334

>>171646663
They've been upgraded with A/C. The computers still overheated like crazy. And If you really needed to, you could jam a half-dozen or more extra pax inside.

>>171650645
cyka

>>171655512
кypвa

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>>171646875
There was a guy on /tg/ writing rules for fleet battles with custom designed lego ships in microscale not too long ago, shit was dope.

>>171658006
Why the fuck aren't there more lego tabletop games?
They'd go so well together

>>171652261
>DO IT FAGGOT
Nah. but I'll put it at the end of my backlog.

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>>171658401
NO! STOP BULLYING ROBBIT

>build a 100mw freud-tier railgun in chode
>slap 120mw of reactor power onto the ship
>fire that thing
>runs out of power immediately, tells me it only has 120mw out of the 100 it needs

What is this shit.

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>>171658847
ENGINEERING

Perhaps there's a fucking 17% inefficiency in powering it? How hot does it get?

>>171659134
Combat heat is 424 megawatts, as for the reactor itself, it doesn't show overheat alerts during combat or in the build menu.

Railgun and crew module are literally the only systems on that ship that draw power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxu_y8ABajQ

>>171659134
I suspect that the energy drain data of turreted guns is inaccurate because the momentum wheels' power requirement doesn't add to the total.

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>>171659612
>the bridge between human behavior and totally robotic behavior is predictive rendering happening real time, and the body behaving as such, updating its motions with each interpolated "tick" of perceived trajectory
>when instantly given the answer, the movement is far faster, but less smooth to the extreme
>to make robots better, we have to make them worse

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>>171660135
>one day we will have cybernetic predictive pathing of physical objects

>>171659612
>>171660135
no john, you are the robots
this is absolutely amazing, but I don't think we should make them worse, smoothness of movement and "appearing" normal is not the priority. I don't care how it moves, I want to work in different environments without a fault. It is does it well, but in extremly weird "robotic" way, then I'm fine with it
Bigger problem is the lack of proprioception and reactions in robots' programming. Fucking hell, robocoders should be allowed only C and after few years of training they should be introduced to agent-programming, nowadays it's "oh i need a visual tool, or I won't understand what i'm doing"

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>>171660517
Anything to escape our revolting biology
Insect

>>171660986
I'd rather have bioclang.
Glory to the flesh. Glory to the Many.

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>>171660753
>don't care how it moves, I want to work in different environments without a fault


There is a reason we don't move like we have binary switches for muscles, and it aint aesthetics, sunshine.

I think smooth motion is the key to first emulating, and then surpassing biological nonsense. Otherwise you're wasting an insane amount of effort and energy correcting for over corrections because the movements aren't smooth enough.

Also, when I'm older I want to cut my legs off at the hip and be able to walk again without issue. Janky robotics is not good for the spine.

>>171661127
Your flesh too is weak but you have potential. Every implant exalts you. Ever line of code in your sub-systems elevates you from your disgusting flesh.

>>171661271
>walk again without issue
u wot

>>171660986
>>171661127
>not synthclang

>>171661351
I want to replace my legs, and in future times, more parts, with robotics. Prosthetics are ass and the people making them are idiotic. The solution is to cut out the MUH AESTHETICS idiocy. I don't care if I look like I have toasters for legs, I just want to fucking walk comfortably.

>>171661480
but how'd you fuck up your legs pham

>>171661480
What's the point if we can't make robolegs superior to fleshlegs yet. The most we managed is "as good as original give or take". $150k pls.

>>171661567
>but how'd you fuck up your legs pham

I didn't. I'm 20 years old. My legs are actually bretty gud. Used to run track. But I'm not going to be 20 years old forever.

>>171634931
That is the future of tanks.

>>171661440
Back to /meg/, Harbinger.

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>>171661127
>not undergoing metamorphosis and be born again as a perfect bio-mechanical being

>>171661619
Hey buddy, they're a lot better if I can just replace an actuator with a pair of pliers and a screwdriver. Right now to replace a knee you need a few hours of surgery and it'll never be anywhere near as good.

You can't jump over buildings or whatever if you don't have the supporting structure for it. It'll just break something else. If not your legs, your hips, then your spine, then your neck, then your brain, then your eyes, and so on. Force transfers to the weakest link.

>>171658605
The robot is not being bullyed its controller is being perturbed

>>171661792
that looks pretty cute

Is it from somewhere? Or just some pixiv shit?

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>>171661706
No. The future is flying tanks.

>>171661820
Spine replacement sounds rad. I'd want 2 backup spines too.

>>171661956
>Spine replacement sounds rad. I'd want 2 backup spines too.


Pretty sure this was actually a plotpoint in Ghost in the shell. I'd be pretty happy if I could just replace my spine, let alone anything else. Figure that'd require some nervous tissue bullshit though.

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>>171661919
Se's Elesh Norn
I found that pic on 1d4chan

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>>171661956
Spine replacement would be a gift from the heavens.


>>171661919
Pic and filename related.

>>171662170
>Spine replacement would be a gift from the heavens.

>No offence miss, but that weapon will snap your spine the moment you fire it
>What, because I'm a *girl*?
>No, because it was designed for use by people with 2 backup spines

Anyway, choosing cold metal over the splendour of flesh in [current century] simply isn't a good idea. Bioware and gene tailoring are more likely than cyberware.

>>171661271
in this field i agree, you are right. if we talk about bionics then imitate as much as you can, but this is robots we are talking about. and in the field of prosthetics there is little problem, just wire it correctly to the flesh, then you are just controlling it. a transition period might be needed to adapt for strength / speed of new limbs, but it's out brain, not controllers in the legs. btw currently there's a prosthetic for a whole leg (1, this is important) that can make almost perfect walking movement (albeit slow), even walking on stairs. 0 connection to nerves, but your healthy leg has a transmitter in the sole and tell other leg what to do
on top of that the fuckers are imagining factories, construction, deep water works made by humanoid robots, where:
a) humanoid form rarely is the best / even useful
b) smooth movements are not always best

I am not against heuristics and fuzzy logic in robots, but making movement smooth or follow fractal paths when it doesn't have to is ridiculous

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>>171662328
>>No, because it was designed for use by people with 2 backup spines

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>>171662328
>>No, because it was designed for use by people with 2 backup spines

>>171662328
>implying you can't have both
Genetically engineer humanity to grow three sets of titanium alloy spines

>>171662331
>but making movement smooth or follow fractal paths when it doesn't have to is ridiculous

>large mechanical arm accelerating at retarded speeds and expending loads of energy to stop again

or

>smooth movement, takes just slightly longer, much higher energy savings

kys you'reself.

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>>171662396
>>171662449
It's a brilliant comic book and you should read it

>>171662506
>Genetically engineer humanity to grow three sets of titanium alloy spines
You can't because titanium, like gold or silver is biologically inert. Good for implantsa, but won't naturally grow in your body.

>>171662936
Steel then.

>>171662936
Then we'll just have to figure out a way to rape it in to the bones cellularly

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>>171663081
If you have nanomachines, you don't need primitive bone supplements.

>>171663067
Too heavy, will react to blood oxygen.

>>171663258
Nanotubes?

>>171662506
Why use titanium when carbon fibers/nanotubes are as if not more sturdy and are composed of something easily accessible by the human body?

>>171663321
Carbon? Like, graphene? Yeah that could work.

>>171663360
>there aren't any easily available research papers talking about using gentetic manipulation to produce an organism that synthesizes nanotubes despite production being one of the main issues
I've been tossing around this idea in my head for a few years now, there should at least be some fucking theoretical shit or popsci garbage talking about this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis
>mathematical universe hypothesis
>MUH

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>>171662521
>thinking it would always accelerate or decelerate
you must be a special kind of retard
if time if of no importance pick red
if force / energy cost is meaningless pick green
if any other constraint, pick a sensible option
only if you are an aesthetics fag you'd pick blue or other faggy things that consider look of movement more important than current task constraint
ofc "task" here doesn't concern art of interacting with morons, we're talking things that have sense
pic is not to scale, obviously
>>171662936
nanomachines, son
>>171663258
>>171663321
damn, you were faster

>>171666392

While the red graph is appropriate for low-speed applications, the green graph is bad for wear, platform stability and haptic feedback.

While operational efficiency is a major concern, it's not the only one.

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>>171666807
as i said: not the only 2 options, but there are plenty cases that look unnatural, but fit all the constraints (sometimes you have to compromise, but still fuck aesthetic movement in factory robots)
look up the robot arms swordfighting for example
or how they operate in normal conditions

>>171667027
>Hurr lads, what if we, get this, lie to a military vessel. That will totally not backfire and they will totally not fuck us in our ass.

>>171670030
diesel as fuck

>>171670551
dieselpunk best punk

>>171646653
>Also I still have nightmares about looking for that one piece that you saw one second ago but now can't find at all
oh god, anon, don't fucking trigger me with that shit

>>171670030
PRIMO ________

>>171671098
>that one piece you have a ton of
>sitting through them to find a stud
>finally find it
>need the piece you know you just moved about 20 of

>none left in the bin

>>171671834
https://youtu.be/QZm4zseMok0

>>171673993
Did I read "Terran Republic" here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_z7UUKvPYg

>>171671952
>When your cleaning lady sweeps and mops your room
>When she throws out a small lego she found that you lost

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>>171674107
if you look closely you can find "sony online entertainment" and reavers in the different pictures

yes, this is indeed one of many concept arts of what planetside 2 could have been

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>>171674515
And what it will never be.

Honestly curious here, not memeing.

Could someone tell me what went wrong with /kspg/?

>>171674884
Overrun by shitposters.
The only people who still post Mexican here are those who are full well aware it's banned and triggers anon's autism.

>>171674884
Lonely gay man with anxiety problems and his crew of equally mentally unstable shitposters created a shitposting singularity after they skipped their meds one to many times

>>171674884
The actual game is ok. The people who use it are not.

as is a great number of things

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Mengies?

>>171675812
No.

>>171674515
I find it funny that Space America apparently has a Soviet aesthetic and Space USSR is designed to look American.

>>171669098
Holy fuck, someone's been playing Earth 2150 IRL.

The only thing left to do now is an automated UCAV launcher/coordinator that sics drones on everything around it without a valid FoF identificator. Like a drone mine.

You can drop this in some remote, useless area that you can't have soldiers patrolling and sleep easier at night.

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>>171674515

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>have sudden urge to play spengies again
>spend 12 hours making a ship in creative
>switch to survival and try to attack some pirates
>in 5 seconds all my turrets are down and half the ship is destroyed

Every fucking time, every damn game I'm let down. When is spengies getting actual combat mechanics? I can tolerate the clag, or dying 2 out of 5 times I'm mining on foot inside a tunnel, or the fucking wheels bugging out. I just wanted it to be an actual game for once.

>>171677727
Top laff

>>171677916
Spengos become
>gunbed ship fight
>man made weapons that 1 hit kill you from max render range
Chose, there is no middle ground.

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>>171677916
>When is spengies getting actual combat mechanics?

>I just wanted it to be an actual game for once.

Its an autistic little shelf-ship sandbox without clear directive decisions on how the game is balanced or even how features are implemented. a million little ideas all thrown together without care or concern of how they might influence other features.

...and its STILL the only fucking engineering game with multiplayer that functions even on a spiritual level.

>>171678514
S-Starmade?

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>>171678708
>S-Starmade?
Not engineering and somehow it still performs worse in some areas. Same amount of retarded design choices though. What impresses me is that they're making even more bad choices to add onto their existing ones.

>>171677916
>anon makes a shitty ship
>blames game
News at 11

>>171677916
Did you use vanilla weapons? They feel very underwhelming.

>>171678971
it's not even that. I wish it was just me.
So I went back into creative and spawned a small fighter with 2 miniguns and a rocket. These are the possibilities:

1. Enemy ship doesn't even shoot back.
2. Enemy ship one-shoots me even while I'm at 300m/s doing a perpendicular fly-by

If I can get close to a ship in spengies and hold the fire button for 2 seconds, that's enough to take out ANY gun turret. 5 seconds and the whole hull is gone

>>171679083
I use both vanilla and modded, but I think the problem is the opposite. The fucking weapons are too overpowered. A spray of bullets disintegrates light armor like it was cardboard

You can shoot anywhere with tiny bullets and in seconds there is a hole 10x10 meters in the hull. It's shit.

I'm just giving up and going back to playing actual games. Fucking abortion was a letdown as well.

>>171679573
That's because light armor isn't good. Try heavy.

>>171679573
>even with modded weapons anon cant take an AI ship
You know that most people capture those with nothing but a handheld grinder?

>>171662068
Well to replace your spine you'd need to also replace your spinal chord and possibly all of the nerves connected to it, and also ensure that it's made of a material which your muscles can anchor properly to. Tough shit to pull off, at that point it might be easier to replace the entire body rather than trying to make individual implants work with what's already there.

>>171679573
>2. Enemy ship one-shoots me even while I'm at 300m/s doing a perpendicular fly-by
The velocity at which you approach has little to no impact on the accuracy of weapons (yours or your enemy's).
What does matter is acceleration, and I'm assuming you approach at constant velocity.
That translates into zero acceleration, and perfect accuracy.

>>171634224
nice blen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLhoXNQqrCmEfAaTf0AfQ1Ztxmz2DoZiCk&v=Rb37-daSLQ4

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>>171682837
>approach enemy by stopping and starting like an old lady driving a manual
>be invincible

Such is live in the zone.

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>>171658006
Was it me?

>>171686424
fuck that scene in YQ was great

>>171687325
I feel like i've wasted my childhood playing with my legos. I built ships, but nowhere as goog as those

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>>171687712
You're making me blush, anon.

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>>171687850
I only made those three fleets, for Mobile Frame Zero: Intercept Orbit. It's a LEGO space war game, skirmisher size. Never played a single game. Stopped building shortly after.

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>>171631919
Back home now. Pic related is how you do ship ID lettering with LEGO properly. Stickers are cheapo.

>>171687712
Imo, building lego ships is a far different experience when you are older.

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>>171689173
Can confirm. Never, ever, would I have gotten the idea to build when younger, 10 to 13, like I did when I picked it back up age 30.

>>171688502
Ced?

I haven't played Spengies in little over a year (before planets were added), how is the multiplayer now?

Is it still laggy as shit with 6+ people?

>tfw all I want is a game like Minecraft where you can jump into a server, build a ship, and destroy other ships for keks

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Just bought the game a week ago, how's my base?

hey /egg/ anyone got a high power reactor they could show me, im sick of the stock nuclear reactors

Still a newbie with Space Engineers and having trouble with building a planet miner. I can't really get anything with thrusters that can overcome gravity with any sort of cargo loaded since large thrusters are too big not to get damaged while drilling. I tried making an oil rig vertical driller thing, but pistons don't go down very far at all.

My other idea was making a medium carrier with large thrusters and using a connector to attach a very small miner parasite ship, but that seems a bit on the complicated side to answer what should be a very simple problem.

Or is the game built more with a space start in mind and moving to planets after you have plenty of resources to fuck around with?

>>171693015
absolutely awful

>>171693015
Holy shit, I never thought about doing that with the boilers.
Not that it's very efficient, but it's neat.

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>tfw CLANG has overtaken a whole AAA game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpKhH_sQHRI

>>171694564
It's not even the most broken AAA game they've showcased.

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So the challenge is to never use belts for transporting ore directly to the furnace line, or coal to furnaces or boilers.

Daily reminder that if you define engineering as moving parts then you are claiming that mechanical engineering is the only type of engineering and you need to kill yourself.

>>171695395
I move bits, sometimes even bytes. Is it engineering?

>>171695975
>is computer/hardware engineering engineering?
Why do we even have to ask this

https://youtu.be/csJ-jfhR_qs?t=139

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>>171695395
>if you define engineering as moving parts
Good thing I don't, then?
You might need to practice your psychic powers a bit longer, Assumo the Fantastic

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if anyone is willing to test this on there pc i would be much abliged

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>clang is real

>>171694564
Biggie and Banzai find the CLANG hidden in every game <3

>>171675812
Yes.

>>171694464
>Not that it's very efficient
With respect to what?

>>171693923
it's not 'built' for anything, it's just a mess of ideas thrown together, but the consensus is: you start on a planet and work to get off it, since it:
is stupid
is round
has harder to mine resources
hasn't got all the resources

the challenge you have to overcome is to exit the gravity well. after that you are a free being, a spaceboud, not hindered by any lack of resources you can freely unleash your creativity on enemies, since pvp is the only thing left for you now

as for the miner: 2-3 large downward thrusters, 2-3 large forward (breaking) thrusters, about 3-5 small in other directions, large cargo, connector, batteries (to taste), lotsa drills, by lotsa i mean those are going to make light of your hole/tunnel, make them wider and higher than the rest of the ship
on top of that rightclick for bigger holes for easier to navigate tunnels/shafts and to avoid stone clogging the cargo

>>171704116
i wanted to say that this finger looks like it's been in someone's pooper, but it's not just the finger

>>171704784
amount of poles and pipes to the amount of inserters obviously
and btw, anon, use belts ffs, your pic gave me tracheatic cancer

>>171704784
Throughput. With that design you can only have one belt supplying all rows of boilers, instead of, say, one belt supplying each two rows of boilers (the way I've always done it)
I'm not sure how the boilers even fit on the other end there since there's not enough space for them to be lined up.

>>171705906
>amount of poles and pipes to the amount of inserters obviously
That's a peculiar parameter to optimize with respect to, but regardless:
Provide picture of a reference design for comparison.
Note that the discussed build uses 8 power poles and 15 "excess" pipes for five full boiler lines.

>>171706571
As above, provide picture of a reference design for comparison.
One boiler consumes a maximum of 780kW worth of fuel, equivalent to 5.85 coal per minute, and a yellow belt transports a maximum of 800 items/minute.
This means a single yellow belt can provide enough coal for more than 136 boilers, or at least 9 full lines of 14 boilers each.
I really don't understand how where throughput is an issue in the discussed setup.

>I'm not sure how the boilers even fit on the other end there since there's not enough space for them to be lined up.
Usually this kind of boiler->boiler transfer of fuel is done by long-armed inserters, which means the steam engines fit nicely.

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trehn

>>171702715
there is a mod that has gears unless you are Yaarrr!

>>171713619
>a train for those distances

y tho

>>171715426
For the challenge and learning experience.

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>>171712224
>83.8mm
That's a pretty odd number. How the fug did they come up with that measurement?

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>>171667027

>torpedo falls out in zero g

>>171718580
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance_QF_20_pounder

>>171720497
I'm fairly sure you can see remnants of the monopropellant from the thrusters on top of the missile for a brief second before it takes off.

>>171727637
>non-full-atx boards in full atx cases
this is some kind of advanced autism.

I didn't engineer a damn thing today

>>171730439
engineer some pushups

>>171731897
I forgot to work out as well. And now it's bedtime. I lost the whole day to M&B: Warband. Better luck tomorrow, /egg/

>>171732158
B U T T E R

>>171732362
Gimme all yr butter

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>there will never be an engineering game that uses PhysX

>>171734490
>kikex
why
why would you want this

>>171734531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok8ThRR-59Q

>>171734674
You realize in no universe would that ever run good on any system?
Besides it's nviadia, it's probably got embedded spyware in it somewhere.

>>171734891
*would an /egg/ based around physx fluid sim

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>>171691687
Yes.

>>171730439
I haven't engineered anything in over a week.
I still like to lurk /egg/ anyway, just because of how comfy these threads are.

>>171737517
>he doesn't think about engineering shit subconsciously
>his mind isn't filled with conveyors, blueprints, logic gates, ships, weapons, military strategy, mathematics, and the like
even while sleeping you must engineer
it is the only way

>>171737682
I am running an Eclipse Phase campaign and I am constantly questioning myself how you'd tackle certain aspects of it.

Currently, I am debating on how to facilitate transport of goods across the lunar surface, to refurbish/restore an abandoned prospecting camp made from prefab parts, given that there is a nanoprinter that requires base materials already on site, and a power source that requires fuel (fusion, so, helium-3 would be ace).

The thing is.

That isn't even my problem, but the players'. Still, I wonder how I would do it. And then, how I would even mask what I am doing so it's not apparant to outside observers that I am doing that.

>>171738150
>And then, how I would even mask what I am doing so it's not apparant to outside observers that I am doing that.

Tunnel your way in.

Or, if you have enough tech/resources, just lob the resources, artillery style using reinforced crates (or whatever equivalent you're using

>>171737682
>Implying I don't
>Implying I don't

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The campaign is interesting on NG+.
Almost scared to look back at my first run.

>>171738326
Well, they are about an hour's drive from a rather large settlement, which is in turn connected to a space elemvapor, which is in turn conencted to a transport hub above the moon.

The operational word here is: clandestine.

They need to get resources to the camp without anyone knowing - or, at least, not knowing where it goes or that it goes there but doesn't matter to anyone. Dropping into the background of regular operations on the surface so no one has a mind to report about it with any emphasis.

Tunneling takes too long and is a lot of effort.
Fly-over drop-off in reinforced crates is a feasible solution, though. I was thinking about hacking automated transports to not log the additional cargo and make course deviations that show up as triangulation discrepancies in the log. Worst case scenario, the software gets scrubbed and reinstalled.

But then again, I was reading up on military encampments and CIA safe houses all day yesterday to identify core properties of a such a clandestine housing solution and it seems like there'sn't much that applies to lunar surfaces.

CLANG

>>171743427
This makes me rock solid every time.

>>171705756
this was meant for this >>171702715

>>171743427
Holy shit this is cool.

I remember seeing it posted on Facebook ages ago and the flat-earthers were going nuts.

>>171737682
>even while sleeping you must engineer

Fucking this. I haven't touched a game in over a week and I still fall asleep with mechanical shit twisting through my mind.

Does CHODE keep logs anywhere?
Overnight it just insisted on crashing on startup and I'd like to find out what the fuck the problem is.

>>171747015
why don't you go ask in their forums like an adult

>>171748401
ew
that would require signing up
fuck this shit, too much effort

>>171748401
Browsed the forum for about 20 seconds to find this
FAQ:

The game has crashed. Where can crash logs be found?
Windows: .../Users/[Username]/AppData/Roaming/CDE/Crashes/
Mac: .../[Username]/Library/Application Support/CDE/Crashes/

>>171748746
Dammit meant to reply to >>171747015

>>171748829
read it anyway, thanks

but in the meantime it fixed itself

>>171746134
>flat-earthers
Why am I moderately surprised that those are still a thing?

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>find a spengies serb that's actually using the infinite speed mod
ABSOLUTE

>>171749368

I give them the benefit of the doubt they are just joking around

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>>171746270
>Last night
>Thinking about whatever
>Remember some of the art I did while in secondary school (in art class, obviously)
>Some terrible stuff, some weird stuff
>Suddenly remember three certain pieces that were based around combining human and mechanical themes
>Extended version of Darwin's evolution of man where the humans get military gear, then advanced gear, then exoskeleton, then a stage or two of degradation and decay, then lying dead on the ground with a flower growing out
>Version of a yin-yang symbol that's half natural and half mechanical
>Vitruvian Man where half is a robot with multiple limbs
>Art department at school always had a habit of keeping old student work
If either of my old teachers are still working there, there's a good chance I could recover them and redraw them.

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>>171750275
>benefit of the doubt they are just joking around
This is what I did for the first 6 months too.

Flat earthism is really great though. Whenever someone tries to push some other retarded conspiracy you can just point out that their "evidence" is on the same level as people who literally believe the earth is flat.

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>>171750275
>I give them the benefit of the doubt
I lost that ability twenty years ago.

>>171718580
>it's British
3.3 inches isn't a very strange number, is it?

I wonder if being mean to enemy missiles and sticking decoys on drones is doable in CHODE.

>>171751756
>hah, your conspiracy is as flimsy and stupid as the flat-earth hypothesis
>anon, don't tell me you believe that earth is round, do you?
You may be surprised how far the stupidity goes, it's a spiral without end

>>171756198
Actually, I'd like to know what they gain if the earth is flat.

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the holes in the bridge make dick shaped shadows on the bridge, pretty funny

dick related engineering?

>>171752639
20 pounds isnt. It's a bog standard 20pdr gun.

>>171757519
Assumption: The Earth is flat
Implied: Modern charts only picture one side
Conclusion: We don't know what is on the other side of the (flat) Earth
Thus we must explore the other side in the name of science.
I suggest a group of great scientists (not NASA, they're lying) conduct a mission to explore said "dark" side.

>>171757519
probably something to do with the bible, since the whole notion started in middle-ages, on top of that reinforced by their view of ground as a flat benath them mixed with utter lack of understanding how gravity works and why it works
in ancient times they not only knew it's more or less a ball, they calculated the circumference and diameter of earth with quite the accuracy (2-3% off iirc)

>>171727637
but moooom i need a full tower111

>>171758487
Contact Greg, we can pay him to make a universe where this is physically possible then write a novel about it.

>>171758889
>we can pay him to make a universe where this is physically possible
He already did.
Dichronauts only has two spatial dimensions, meaning EVERYTHING is flat.
I'd still like to know if his flatlings can possibly explore the dark side of flatworld (won’t call it a “planet”, word carries too much baggage)

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>>171759135
>two dimensional
Three spatial dimensions but one is also time somehow.

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>>171734943
t. someone who had one of these as a kid

>>171759326
weren't the top bits literally touching the sun?

>>171759660
>we will never have a stable engineering multiplayer fluid game

>>171759660
Looks fun for a kid

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>>171759732
Yes, those bits are the surface of the sun extruded on to the hyperboloid itself

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What number determines how good a flak bomb is?
Every other weapon seems to have some detailed yield and efficiency figures associated, flak doesn't.
None that I can use, anyway.

>>171760020
You don't even know, bro, shit was lit af senpai

>>171759660
Where does that sudden, overwhelming longing come from?

Oh, right, water and mini locks and fostering autism.

>>171760959
I kind of want to scratch-build a full canal system with like 10 locks, electric motors to generate the current (the point of those gates is that you use that weird thing in upper right to generate a current and direct the boats with the gates), etc, etc.

>>171760181
That launch velocity curve at the bottom is a good one, the higher off the bottom it is the faster the flak is travelling. High velocity means it'll spread out rapidly, good for tearing radiators off ships. Low velocity means it can't overcome the velocity it inherits from the missile and just travels in a tight cone, which is good for putting a hole through armor.

>>171760959
You might have Dutch ancestors

>>171761724
I spam flak missiles like crazy, so I imagine a tight cone will do me little good.

>>171761993
The best way to get high velocity is more explosives, less casing. Also, you should use nitrocellulose. It only has 0.22 MJ/kg less energy and it's a lot cheaper.

>>171759326
No, his world seems to be one where the third spatial dimension has the same metric signature as the time one.
The distinction is important, because at the very least it fundamentally changes how you define velocity and such.

>>171763031
I went with TNT next, but okay, nitro it is.

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tenk

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>>171763854
tenk

>>171751756
Anon, I hope you don't dismiss conspiracies just because they are conspiracies.

>>171758510
iirc the guys who came up with idea of Earth being a globe actually had to fight ancient flat earthers.

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>>171763854
tonk

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>>171764936
qtenk

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>>171765201
Have you tried using a walker tank in centerfuggal gravity?

>>171765916
I am not He you speak of, merely His admirer.

>>171760027
>Yes, those bits are the surface of the sun extruded on to the hyperboloid itself
I'm getting a headache.

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>>171766493
>I'm getting a headache.
Greg takes shitposting in to a new dimension

>>171759660
>>171760020
>>171760784

I'm studying mathematical development in childhood, and this toy thing looks like it'll press all the right neurological buttons

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>>171767010
Are you also doing work on the brain's internal physics engine?

>>171767010
Seriously, nothing would make me happier than people promoting these in schools/for children, they were the best toy I owned as a kid and most memorable. I'd LOVE to see someone integrate one of them into a segment for young children on tinkering/"making", too; start with making boats from styrofoam or whatever, move to simple mechanics, then maybe simple electrics (3v batter powered motor or something; add them to the kids boat)

>>171734891
>Besides it's nviadia, it's probably got embedded spyware in it somewhere.
Unless you built it and the whole infrastructure needed to build it by yourself alone then it does already have spyware embedded at the hardware level.
CPU, video card, sound card, network card, keyboard, mouse, screen, heck! Even the fucking case! You name it!

>>171767197
Unfortunately no, I'm doing teaching

>>171767227
That's my goal too. One memorable project in primary school was we had to make small water wheel that would run from a bottle of water. Another time we built cars from shoeboxes and skewers with cardboard wheels.

Problem solving and building are the best ways to teach a child, in my opinion. If you can twist their brains early enough they'll carry those skills into adulthood.

>>171767197
Greg should team up with this guy and make a highly detailed model of how a hyperboloid brain would work.

>factorio mods locked behind a legit account

fug

>>171769589
Even though they are locked behind an account for download, some of them are behind very lax licences such as the CC BY-NC 4.0 which technically and legally states that as long as proper credit is given to the author, and a link to the licence given, you can freely distribute said mod.
But this is 4chan so who the fuck cares about the legalities

>>171769589
It's why I bought the game. Multiplayer autism with mods.

>>171769589
It's honestly worth it if you like the game

>>171757519
This^ This is why I hate flat-earthers. It has no value past being a novelty. If we were to stop arguing them and say, OK, the earth is flat, now what??? What the fuck would it have to offer anyone?

>>171771835
if the earth is flat it means there's another side to the earth :^)

>>171772121
There's another side to these hands

>>171772121
So? Are you gonna put solar panels in there?

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>>171772440
On there, not in there.
>One side of Earth is solar power plants for the other side

Is there an /egg/ game where I can build my own jet engines

Fine tuning airafrmes for performance is col but I want the next level, fiddling with compressor stages, number and shape of blades, combustors, turbine designs, etc

>>171772619
>On there, not in there.
цyкa

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>>171772897
So when can we engineer the day of the rope?

for those curious, they don't put ketchup on because they're litterally not allowed to

>>171734490
>Nvidia PhysX
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>Once upon a time
>Ageia PhysiX
>everyone could add a card for PhysX
>A wild (((Nvidia))) appears
>Ageia no more, PhysX is now Nvidia feature
Fine, okay. I will buy a cheap Nvidia card to add a dedicated PhysX card to my affordable RX480 system. Oh, wait...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html#q8
Fuck you Nvidia. You killed physics acceleration.

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Greetings from /r6g/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIqfBovvSw

>>171774071
kek, saved

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>>171774131
>>171773982
phisx is a lie and not my president

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>>171773982
>we could have been building megastructures now if it wasn't for nvidia

>>171774071
>caring about what a failure of a human being pushing a meme OS that doesn't even works while eating his own toenails in public says

>>171772884
respond

>>171773767
> S O O N

>>171774096
What a waste.
Just make a kubelwagen and a enclosed machinegun/grenade launcher turret.
Ride it to the place, mow down the troublemakers, return to base, done.

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>>171768073
>Problem solving and building are the best ways to teach a child

>efficiently teaching children like one would teach an artificial neural network in a machine
>treating children like sophisticated organic robots with learning capabilities
>regularly monitoring and adjusting their thought processes as you shape their minds how you see fit
>tfw you're afraid of becoming a parent because you will look at your child like a complex project rather than a human being
Guess it's good that I will probably die a virgin. At least I won't make my wife's children suffer or rob them of their childhood.

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>>171775967
>tfw vasectomygneering

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>>171774071
>>171774293

>>171772884
chode has this level of detail, but for spacecraft, no aircraft unfortunately.

What mods should I use for factorio hellworld? I've never done it before.

Lasers are the best point defense.
Railguns are the best absurd-range weapon.
Coilguns, I guess, serve some specialised applications because they tend to be smaller and more efficient (?) than rails.
So what about ordinary cannons? Is there any point in using gunpowder in CHODE?

>>171776889
But spacecraft are booooring

I want to build a jet plane, hit peak performance, then improve the engine itself to squeeze another 25 mph out of it

>>171775241
>eating his own toenails in public says
The fuck

>>171777767
>mph
turn in your autism license

>>171777767
>spacecraft are booooring
Out.

>>171775967
>not including fun as part of the training so the subject is prepared for and excels in interpersonal communication and is able to deal with stress / boredom / change of plans
wew, good thing you won't, your project is a wreck even before you started
>>171777767
wtf, i thought this was /egg/
>mph
>not knowing what peak performance is
>not into spess
you disgust me
>>171777884
oh, you didn't know?

i did it.
I downloaded spengies again

>>171779871
when was the last time you gave in?

>>171778063
They're not as fun as atmospheric craft