/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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still nothing that makes me want to pre order

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Before you make that post, remember:
People WILL ignore you

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Discarding your cards for tempo is the opposite of control.

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>tfw already pre ordered

>>171571061
>Save up all gold 120 days before each expansion (6100g). This means saving for the next set starting the 18th of April. You can craft remaining top legendaries without the chance of pulling them from packs.
Is this even going to work with all classes getting two legendaries, much less two that are supposed to be run together?

>>171571291
You can cancel by talking to CS if that's what you mean.

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>tfw too intelligent to just give in and play Jade

>>171571294
That's not the point of it. The point is spending all your gold day 1 and not spreading it out thinly over all the days of the set.

>tfw to smart for Cunnyverse
>tfw to dumb for Eternal, Faeria and Gwent

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>>171571061
is still fucking real?

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3 expansions a year
more legendary cards per set
no more adventures
removing good classic cards from standard

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Is the Panda worth crafting? She's great in all three Jade decks, but I'm worried that Jade might die out after release like the Old Gods did and that Jade just isn't a fun thing to play.

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>People blow their gold into Ungoro
>Forget about next 2 sets

>>171571478
>more legendary cards per set
This one is supposedly false. They'll have two class legendaries this set, but only five neutrals.

>>171571534
There is no winning move for f2p anymore anyways, what kind of difference does it make?

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WOW THAT LEGENDARY

Such creative minds at Team 5

>>171571481
Wait for Un'goro and two more weeks, and only then decide what to craft.

>>171571534
>implying im gonna keep playing hearthstone

>>171571061
I really like it and not for the prospect of playing a very big 2/2.
I like it because once you draw it it's always a chance for a discard to basically not trigger. It's insane how much value this protects in warlock.
It triggers malchezaar imp w/o loosing a card. It's a total of 5 cards that do not go to waste if you discard them.
imo there is enough for a discolock deck rn, but one more would push it over the edge.

>>171571409
Okay, that makes sense, but wouldn't you eventually run out of some kind of resource, though? Without any gold to spend on Arena or other packs, you're going to run out of dust eventually, even if you disenchant every reward at the end of the month.

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>>171571580
more legendary and more epics, the number increases

>>171571650
It's still more interesting than most OCs we see here

>>171571221
Damn why doesn't hearthstone have such god tier art ?

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post yrw discard is another forced archetype, but unlike taunt warrior and beast druid it already works... kinda

Where is the list that they are removing from classic list in standart? Also will there be any replacements for them?

>>171571534
>not being rich just looking for money to blow

>>171571746
It's not necessarily a general trend, we will have to wait for next expansion to see if it is or not

>>171571814
It's actually a pretty well rounded aggro deck, that requires quite some luck with discards etc. Have outpushed like 26 dmg a turn with minimal board on turn 5/6

>>171571857
google is your friend
no, but maybe in an indeterminate future

>>171571061
How does discard work?

If I play the felhound or doomgaurd with this as my only card in hand would it only trigger once or would it be discarded, returned and discarded again?

>>171571857
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017

They haven't confirmed any replacements, but they did say they're considering replacing Ice Lance with Shatter of all things.

>>171571870
If you were rich you wouldn't be wasting your life away on 4chan. People who spend money on shit like this aren't "rich people" but gambling addicts, hoarders and people with dead end jobs and empty lives.

I don't even mean this as an insult to anyone, just stating it as a matter of fact.

>>171572052

I would say no but you never know with this game.

>>171571975
That's why the lego isn't bad, it mitigates the variance in this highly random archetype.
The archetype is cancer because it's based on one of the most randoms mechanics but it's been in the warlock kit from the beginning.

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>>171571805
don't be sad, you'll always have kill command art

>pushing discolock
>making zoo (one of the cheapest archetypes) need you to blow at the very least 1600 (maybe 3200 if the portal turns out to be decent which it very well might be with more "counts as discard but you don't discard cards" which are likely to be added) dust in CLASS SPECIFIC legendarios to play

Amazing

wew lad it really is amazing how stupid this game is
>play control
>have to play around all my opponents cards
>calculate my outs
>skim the line of being dead and setting up lethal

>play aggro
>play minions and hit face
>if I draw burn I still use it on face for mana efficiency
>don't even have to think about the cards in your deck or possible draws
>the most intelligent thing I did was playing n'zoths first m8 before equipping war axe

>>171572301
Looks like deviant art shit up close. looks okay ingame to me.

>>171572305
Screencap this so you can say "I told you so" when I turn out to be wrong, but nobody's going to play the portal, Highlander will die without Reno, Zoo will stay dead unless somehow people make a Menagerie Warlock work, Discolock will be the main Warlock archetype and Clutchmother is going to be a staple in it.

>>171572305
new player experience :)

>>171572494

>nobody's going to play the portal
>Discolock will be the main Warlock archetype

But it fits in discolock anon

Discolock is utter fucking cancer why are they pushing this

>play discard shit
>can either summon a 3/3 for free or throw away your finisher

>>171572052
The discards should happen at the same time so no it only gets discarded once.

>>171572575
fucking old school zoo used to be able to play the attrition game against control decks, the powercreep in this game is insane

>aggro rogues and warriors in casual
Why can't these people kill themselves

>>171572494
discolock and zoo are the same fucking thing

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>>171572619
balanced
because
RANDOM

>>171572619
lol just don't draw your other Doomguard before you play the first one

>>171572675
>aggro rogue
Free wins, the only time i've lost to aggro rogue was when they're actually playing edwin rogue

>>171572494
I'm pretty sure they will add more bullshit "when you discard this card, don't discard it" shit

Discardlock is in full FORCE THIS ARCHETYPE mode already, they will go all in

>>171572675
>>>>>>>>>>>playing casual

you brought this suffering upon yourself

>>171572421
>deviant art shit
You don't spend much time with creative hobbies do you?
The art is fine, just cartoony.
A good majority of DA is typically fine too, just the fact that terrible "artists" with weird kinks can put all their shit up on there and be safe from criticism gives the website a bad rep with certain crowds, i.e. people who only look at art with one hand on their junk.

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>>171572784

That's the only way a self-discard deck can work. It's either some kind of "madness" mechanic of having discarded cards get into play under some other condition or you need to have a graveyard and have discarded cards revived into play so you don't lose value.

>>171572903
triggered tumblr whore MEGALUL

>>171571729
Arena for profit is a meme, only the top 100 players can do it consistently.

You craft to your own budget. Many players here have been playing for many years and can craft a lot of stuff. I'm sitting on almost 30k dust myself, so I can craft 2-3 legendaries per set.

The point is that you can actually use the packs/gold/crafts while they are relevant (the entire 4 months) and don't have a chance to pull the cards you crafted.

If you are a very low budget new f2p player then perhaps 1 crafted legendary per set is the maximum.

>>171573045
>>>/twitch/

>>171572845
I'm not going to play n'zoth paladin to lose ranks for the paladin card quest.

>>171572903
I agree that the art's fine, but given the direction the game's gone, it clashes so much with all the other cards other than Leeroy. It doesn't help that Kill Command's a basic card, so the chances of it leaving are pretty slim, too.

>>171573018
That's the thing though, most of the new discard cards retain some of their value especially if the quest is in play

>>171573097
HotPokket

>>171571061
>STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF
STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF
>STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF
STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF
>STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF
STEALTH DEATHWING BUFF

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> tfw they announced they'll print less common and more epic/legendaries
> tfw some people are hyped and doesn't understand that printing more legendaries =/= more chance to get one but just more money and dust to waste
> tfw no adventure
> tfw they waste the money on a fake documentary with few SFX effects
> tfw they use Ben Brodes to make their shit tasty and people are enjoying eating shit
> tfw this game

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>>171573018
The reason why self discard works so well in M:tG is because you choose the card and graveyard mechanics.
With neither of those in Hearthstone you're just hurting yourself in the long run, which is why it's only good on Doomguard and soulfire, cards that usually bring the game to a quick end.

Not a single interesting card so far. NOT A SINGLE ONE. The second this shit comes out im gonna blow 15k dust on a golden whatever deck and quit after im bored with it

>>171573339
Ok.

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>Beast tag

k

>>171573113
play wild ranked you dumdum
if you already are, just derank yourself in standard to 19~17 where people play meme decks

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I'll make shit OC until you like it

Is there a limit to how many packs you can farm with the new Elise?

>>171573450
> deathwing remains better even if you discard 9 cards

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>>171573228
>deathwing in warlock
because 8 board clears aren't enough

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>>171573481

>>171573481
>Farm
Anon, the pack doesn't stay with you after the game ends. It's only for that game, but you're guaranteed at least an epic, and you have much higher chances of pulling legendaries, too.

>>171573567
>cant be targeted by spells

also you still keep 4 mana, you can tap and play the new legendary

>>171573167

It always comes down to Hearthstone lacking base mechanics to allow for more intricate deck designs. They'll just end up powercreeping everything eventually.

>>171573584
8 board clears isn't enough when facing Jade that is correct

>>171573481
Nope! Hearthstone is now truly F2P forever and all you need is some shadowcasters, brewmasters and brann!

>>171573567
at least this has protection from spells and hero power

>>171573605
>but you're guaranteed at least an epic, and you have much higher chances of pulling legendaries, too.
so why are you retards complaining about having more epics and legendaries in the set?

>>171573567
it costs 6 mana

>>171573669
0 is enough

jade gets ran over by Zoo

>>171573669
Stalling the game is pointless against jade since after a certain point they'll just be playing 10/10s every turn
You need burst.

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>>171573694
>Anon, the pack doesn't stay with you after the game ends

Si, about that Elise. My guess is Blizzard will put a 10 limit pack per day, which is still some decent dust daily. 40 dust for each pack you open with the odd one with a good haul.

You can easily earn 500-1000 dust per day if you don't mind farming. It's a nice investment for just 1600 dust to be honest.

>>171573887
hes baiting you you godamn idiot stop replying to him

>>171573651
B O A R D C L E A R (and Hex memeturn)
Here you get instant fucked by a shaman or even a druid just because of a taunt. And you'll probably won't discard 9 cards btw

>>171573707
But your hand is empty, enjoy your tap

>>171573924

>1600 dust
>not crafting a Golden New Elise so all your packs are golden

C'mon man, it's worth the 3200 dust.

>>171572619
>having "finisher" in a discard deck
Oh kay

>>171570592
Is this real?

>>171573924
Anon, didn't you hear? Elise's pack only lasts for the game. If you want the permanent packs, you're going to have to mine for them.

>>171574064
Look at the reply to it.

Can we please theory craft some ways to stay competitive as free to play players? I usually try to stay around rank 18 in wild mode and play pirate Warriors for 100 gold. Is there any other way to get cards fast and easy?

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>>171574064
>Is this real?

Are you retarded?

>>171574113
>>171574113
>Is there other way
Nah,pay up

Why do you still play this game?

>>171574113
>not crafting nuElise for infinity dust

Come on man

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3 x MIND CONTROL/Thoughsteal!

Shit would be awesome with Entomb.

>>171574104
Huh, looks like the reply got deleted for some reason, but the card art's from MTG.

>>171574261
im not. Im here for the trainwreck that is this expansion

Who else going to craft Elise with the HoF dust then farm innkeeper every day for free dust?

>>171574113
no, there is no way, unless you grind 30 wins a day

Even if you make 150 gold a day ever day, that is only 54750 gold a year

that gives you 180 packs from each expansion a year

are you really going to win 30 games a day EVERYDAY?

>>171574262
Doesn't work pack is only for game. Please don't spam with bad idea. I am looking for real min max ideas.

>climbing to 5 off the back of rank floor memers
feelsgoodman

>>171574274
Priest will be broken as fuck in wild

Holy shit

>>171574274
or get 4x the innerfire combo

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>>171574113

>>171574371
Yes I do right now it's easy. I was thinking of creating alts and win trading with them in wild on my main account. I think this is doable in wild because of lower player count. Thoughts? This should make 30 wins much much faster since I can instantly win around 50%+ of my matches. I would also use the alts for 80 gold friend quests. I am thinking of having about 20 alts using nox Android emulator.

>>171574113
Botting.
That's how I got my card pool. Never paid anything and got most card except the trash tier legendaries

>>171574274
Why do people suddenly think that 3 or 4 Mind Controls would be strong when it's not even used as a one of

>>171574113
>Can we please theory craft some ways to stay competitive as free to play players? I usually try to stay around rank 18 in wild mode and play pirate Warriors for 100 gold. Is there any other way to get cards fast and easy?


Paying or botting with a PW deck if you know what you're doing. And DON'T do the 40g dailies, even if you have to not play a whole day because of this daily. Unless you have whole days to spend on hearthstone. Some SmOrc tavern brawls too can be a good gold farming.

>>171574562
Good luck winning without Lightlord, Tirion and Leeroy.
And Wickerflame isn't necessary but holy shit he is good at eating removal that they save for bigger minions for being at 3 mana.

>>171574634
just go out and pan handle, beg people for money every day

doing all that work in hearthstone is the same as making 2$ a day

Do you rope against pirate warrior?

>>171574730
i dont play this game and even if i did im not autistic

>>171574341
Since it's dust from both Rag and Sylvanas, I will have enough to make it golden. That significantly ups the dust income.

If a person only has enough dust for a regular one then the best decision is to farm up enough dust for the golden version. That or just dust your collection for the golden because it doesn't matter if you do, you will just earn it back pretty quickly.

What was the name of the hearthstone bot again

>>171574730

No, I win against Pirate Warrior.

>>171574730
No because I usually get them to concede by turn 6.

How long does it take to grind 100 gold if you play pirates?

>>171574693
Woah hey buddy, I was just posting him to mention the fact the he says "Gotta pay up."
In other words, buy packs goyim.

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>>171574815
Nice try, FBIlizzard, you're not getting ME!

>>171574730
I teach against them

i use to bot 30 wins in 2.5 hours before naxx ever came out

hearthstone was a better more honest game than

>>171573940
mfw i was counterbaiting him and you're the only retard here lol

>>171574815
Cunnyverse

>>171574815
Cunnyverse

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>>171574730
I rope against everyone

>Play Freeze
>Just rope every turn
>Everyone concedes

Free wins desu, damn Im good

>>171574872
A win takes like 3-4min, a defeat (time you decides to concede) 6min. If both are not ropping ofc.
So considering you're winstreaking you can get 10gold/15min or less, but now Ooze is an auto-include because of PW and games are usually a bit longer.

>>171571061
Wait this is the warlock legendary? Fug

>>171575028
>>171575080
the cunnybot only posts on /tv/

>Quit a year ago because of every single player roping every turn, thinking they're lifecoach and have to make the BIG PLAYZ

>decided to reinstall and try again

>paladin spends 3 full minutes to use his hero power

I can't believe they've done nothing to remedy this.

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finally grinded past the pirate warriors and got to rank 5 time to play some fun decks like Pirate rogue!

>>171574640
I use it. In my Dragon/Renopriest. #justrank16things

>>171575451
tough luck bud
I usually play HS and Cunnyverse at the same time and sometimes need to rub one out on my turn

>>171575451

nothing personal kid, hearthstone is the thinking mans game

>>171575641
good job man, enjoy your golden epic :)

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>mfw I started playing 6 weeks ago and barely have any dust
>mfw I got a random golden legendary and dusted it to craft this fucker
>mfw Blizzard manipulates me into leaning towards spending real $ into this game


Oh, those sneaky jews.

>>171576128
I forgot to state the main reason for moaning - I wanted to craft Ragnaros and Sylvanas because they're "virtually free". By "virtually", of course they mean if you have 3.6-7.2k dust lying around.

>>171576128

well at least you crafted a great lego

>>171576295
should've just crafted regular rag to get a free thalnos later, senpai.

>>171576128
Is this the best lego up to date? It's like a neutral tirion. It fits in every deck

>>171576128
if you craft them both golden you get free 3200 dust after disenchanting them! you should definitely do it, it's a great investment.

>>171576784
Man I wish I was being paid for shitposting

>>171571746
>release more packs per year
>reduce pack value by increasing rarity
blizzard is capitalizing on its hard-core audience
you are either f2p or pay hundreds of dollars a year

>>171576295
Have they confirmed yet if you get dust for both regular and golden versions or just golden? Because if it's just golden you technically lose 1600 dust if you already own them and craft a gold.

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>regular new-Elise is more fun than the golden version

How did Blizzard fuck this up?

>>171577215
You get dust for as many cards as you can put in a deck, with priority to golden cards.

So yes, you'll only get dust for golden rag if you have both

>>171577215
>Have they confirmed yet if you get dust for both regular and golden versions or just golden?
Only golden
>Because if it's just golden you technically lose 1600 dust if you already own them and craft a gold.
You dont lose anything, you either get 400 Dust + the Golden version

Or you dust the golden version and get 1600 dust, the same as if you didnt bother to craft it

You lose nothing by crafting goldens, you only get more options

>>171577215
you can still disenchant the golden so you don't lose anything

>>171574274
Since this discovers you can play up to 3 different spells and still almost guarantee to tutor two copies of one specific spell. That's actually a card you can skirt around the random element by good deckbuilding, especially since priest has cheap cantrips.
Combo priest is real, screenshot this.

I think the pally legendary is being judged a bit unfairly

First of all people should stop looking at it as a counter to jade since if you're at the point where nerfing a bunch of jades to 3/3 is significant, you're way past the point of no return

On the other hand look at it as a quartermaster. If you can stick a bunch of shitty minions on the board you can buff them up next turn. If you curve this out with a finja you could be looking at 7/5 bluegills. Against certain decks with a finisher that summons shit it can be pretty mean since it requires 3 trades into it. And it has great synergy with the "spawn 2 1/1s" adapt.

Oh who am I kidding this is a slow card with a fun effect you'd love to build around but you won't be able to because there will be a degenerate aggro deck that wins in 5 turns and you need to adapt your entire deck to have a 50% chance at going past turn 6 after which they will just concede so you won't get to play any of your cool fun high cost legendarios. This is hearthstone after alll.

>>171574730
No, but when I'm playing my autistic homebrew control decks, I always just wall myself off with taunts and wait for pirate niggers to concede without even clicking face.

>>171572629
Wrong, see how Tiny knight works, i think the buff would happen twice in that case.

>>171577474
Then why bother to begin with? Just to have the option of dusting it if you feel like it?

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2293-mike-donais-talks-elementals-and-reveals-four-new

Are you ready to play elementals on curve? Also first neutral auto dust legendary confirmed.

>>171574274
THIS CARD IS FUCKING DISGUSTING LITERALLY A TRACKING WITHOUT THE DOWNSIDE IN FACT IT GOES THE OPPOSITE WAY OF EXTREME VALUE NICE POWERCREEP BLIZZ

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>>171577751
>http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2293-mike-donais-talks-elementals-and-reveals-four-new

>>171577624
It's a shit csrd most likely.

Keeper of Uldaman was great because from turn 6 onwards, it was never a bad play.

This new card will have its moments, but too often would be a bad play since at the cost of shrinking one fatty you'd just buff an entire shaman board.

tl;dr Team 5 are fucking dumb

>>171577956
>that second card

BLIZZAAAAAAAARD
SHAMAN CANT GET TO BE BROKEN AS FUCK Y E T ANOTHER EXPANSION

THATS A 7 MANA 8/10 OVERALL STATS OVER 3 BODIES AND TWO TAUNTS

AND

NO

OVER

LOAD

>>171577956
I can't handle all this dust

>>171577956
That shaman card is dumb, it's basically play a 4/4 for 4 and get a feral spirit without overload.

>The elementals are callin’ and if you put them all in, you gon’ be ballin’.

>>171577658
so you can have a cool shiny leggo in your decks until the rotation happens :p

>>171577956

Fuck me that Shaman card is strong.

Turn 6 Fire Elemental
Turn 7 that.

>>171578104
dies to flamestrike :^)

>>171577624

It's an amazing addition to my token paladin deck. In wild, of course.

>>171577956
>Battle cry add another firefly to your hand

>>171578104
And Onyxia is 9 mana 14/14 AND NO OVER LOAD, right?

>>171577956
that legendary could easily have 20+ health

>>171578303
You underestimate the value of taunt on a late game body

>>171577956
ozruk is shit the other ones will see play in elemental decks for sure
who else excited for this new adventure!

>>171577956
LEGENDARY 9 MANA 0/1 TAUNT
THAT'S INCREDIBLE

>>171578303
3 health is alot hard to clear than 1.

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>>171578257

>>171578104
It's only one elemental too. Seems pretty easy to do actually.
Ozruk seems pretty cool, mostly seems like it's gonna be a 5/10 usually, but can be a 5/15 with simple 2 card play. They dont even have to live, straight up just play them.

>>171577956
>more decks slots are too confusing for new players
>this isn't

>>171578332

Still dies to pint size potion+potion of madness

>>171578332
And it is still garbage. "Dies to removal" isn't just joke.

>>171578303
>comparing 1/1 tokens to feral spirits
>comparing a 7 mana play to a 9 mana play
>comparing a two-of to a one-of

>>171577956
What the fuck?
>Collect 1/2 elementals for the whole game
>Drop 7 of them turn 7
>Coin out a 5/40 taunt turn 8
O P
P

>>171578403

Looks like someone set fire to Celebi

>>171578403
C U T E

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>>171577956

>fire elemental into stone sentinel

F U C K
Y O U
D O N A I S

>>171577956
you know whats funny
thats an epic
not a legendary
you can just straight up play that turn 7 and then turn 8 aswell. then play Ozruk or something if you had it

>>171578372
>>171578379
>>171578462
I am not saying it's shit, I am saying comparing it to straight up 8/10 is super retarded. Imho it's actually pretty balanced for it's cost

>>171578467
>Coin out a 5/40 taunt turn 8
>in removal stone
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper excited for this new ebin card

>>171577956
jades are better than stone sentinel

>>171578670
>shaman epic better than all class legendaries revealed sofar

why does this not fucking surprise me in the slightest

>>171578467
Don't forget inner fire for the turn after that. :^)

>>171578670

>6: Fire Elemental
>7: Sentinel
>8: Sentinel
>9: Ozruk

Thank god Brann is leaving

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Man, with each reveal the preorder vanishes away from my wallet even more!

>>171574274
Nobody plays Mind Control you shieldbearer.

>>171578303
Why do you think feral spirits has 2 overload lad

You do realize cards that are two cards together should be weaker since they don't lose you card advantage right? You're paying 7 mana for a 4/4 and feral spirits at no overload.

Imagine an elemental that costed 7 mana and as a 3/3 that summoned a 7/7. What would you think about it? Shit right, just 10 stats for 7 mana.

>>171578839
squeeze a 1/2 elemental in at turn 8 as well

>>171577956
Wut I just took my time to poop, I come back and this appears.
> Ozruk
> TAUNT
> +5 HP FOR EACH ELEMENTAL. 5. FUCKING. HP.
> TAUNT2
> "Hey let's add a little elemental that you can easily combo and make you feel you're a rogue"
> They still don't understand why everyone is playing aggro

WTF THEY'RE DOING

JADE IS DEAD

WE ELEMENTALSTONE NOW

BREAK YOURSELF UPON MY BODY

>>171577956
>another great shaman card
hahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA

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All this shitters thinking an epic 7 mana 4/4 is ever going to be playable

/hsg/ everyone

>>171578932
>Not combining Jades/Pirates/Elemental for ultimate cancer

>>171578918
>WTF THEY'RE DOING
>team 5
>knowing jack shit about card creation
They are roleplaying as card designers

>>171578839
>tfw wild fags on suicide watch

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How's that saving up going /hsg/?

>>171578839
>standard
>9 mana 0/1 taunt

>wild
>9 mana 0/1 taunt
what's the difference?

>>171578847
Would you like anything new or do you want to complain?

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>shadow rager isn't even an elemental

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>>171579105
I really like arena okay

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You have to be fucking kidding right

>>171579157
>expecting Blizzard to remember rogue cards exist

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post yfw
>he preordered

>>171579178
Why would you exchange your gold for MSG packs at this point?

>>171579192

I always forget that card exists

>>171579157
and rogues get shafted again, is anyone surprised?

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>>171577956
>9 mana 5/x dies to removal do nothing with a condition. Legendary
>7 mana 8/10 establish a board, protects face, rapes your opponent's mom, has an easy condition. Epic shaman card

>>171578707
It is. It's significantly better than a 8/10 in basically every scenario.

It protects your face much better since its two taunts.
It's 3 bodies which can be bloodlusted for 17 damage
It can be flame tongued for 2 4/3 taunts

Basically it generates you a significant board for no overload and it's still only 7 mana

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>>171579204

>>171577956
Ozruk is just a very bad Soggoth. Unplayable/10.
Stone Sentinel is basically 7 mana 8/10 in stats. A 4/4 body and two 2/3 tokens with Taunt and tribe. Very good card.
Flame Geyser is a good card.
Fire Fly is fucking strong.

>>171579157
Shadows aren't an element. Meanwhile Am'gam rager isnt one aswell. They arent elements. Magma, and Ice are.

>>171579229
I dont know. I just like playing arena, its a mode I usually have fun in, unlike the rest of the game.

>>171571650
I didn't even notice it's a legendary, jesus christ. You'll have an approximately 0% chance to unpack anything good with what we've seen

>>171579280
not to mention combo's well with other shaman cards

>>171579036
I'm amazed how no one of the team didn't even notice a problem when you have only one guy for testing cards.

>>171574635
This. I haven't played a game personally for months. Hell I almost have a golden warrior already

>>171574730
Kek read my response above. It makes me laugh thinking that people are purposely roping a bot

>by far the best card revealed so far is a shaman epic

YOU LITERALLY CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>171578876
Do you understand what feral spirits wouldn't be playable without trogg and flametongue, right? If you are already ahead on board Sentinel only plays more into aoe, if you are behind on board, it can be easly traded away due to low attack values on all parts. Card is still decent, but comparing it separate components is retarded. Fire elemental is still much better card and it's not even playable right now.

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>shaman gets a 7 mana 4/4 cast feral spirit with no overload

why do they do this every time

>>171579341
Then why are lightspawn an elemental?

feelio when i've seen nothing that makes anomalous not 400 dust

>t6 fire ele
>t7 sentinel
>t8 earth ele + flameshock +ancestral spirit
>t9 sentinel + ancestral spirit

???
we crusher now

>>171579462
Light is an element, shadow isn't. Why? I don't know. I guess shadows are just the lack of light, so it's like the lack of an element isn't an element.

It could also be a hidden tri class mechanic, where they want shamans and mages and ??? to be element classes and the other to be dino

>>171579447
You're insane in the membrane if you think shaman wouldn't run feral spirits at 3 cost with no drawback.

>>171579484
>anomalous

why the crap doesn't that thing have taunt

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Post yfw /hsg/ is screaming over a 7 mana 4/4

So Elemental Shaman is guaranteed tier 1 now. Fuck Blizzard.

Since Firefly neutral I guess every class will have some sort of big elemental with some wacky effect

>>171577956
fire fly coin fire fly. pretty fucking good

>>171579595
7 mana 4/4 is the same cancer as 4 mana 7/7

>>171579192
>reverse powercreep

seriously how is soggoth not better in every way? Even if you got Ozruk to 30 health he'd still be evaporated just as easilly by hex, poly, execute, sap, etc.

>>171579281
Dies to aoe, dies to opponent board for no cost because lmao 2 attack. It's good, but saying
>It's significantly better than a 8/10 in basically every scenario.
is fucking retarded.

>>171579620
I was thinking that it would be good in an aggro deck just for the token generation and curve filling potential

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>>171579192
just wait until they reveal the inevitable "reduce the cost of elementals by 1".

Exactly what discard warlock needed. A legendary beast with an entirely random discard-effect.

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>>171579620

>>171579595
>7 mana with no impact
>Meanwhile rouge coins out a 20/20 while drawing half his deck and dealing 12 dmg from hand
>Meanwhile druid drops 3 7/7 8/8 and 9/9
>Meanwhile warrior already won

>>171579743
But not lower than 1

DONT GET ANY IDEAS

Is Ozrun the biggest timmy card yet? It could have more health than an Ancient One

>>171579743
shaman legendary: 2 mana 2/2 with Reduce the cost of all elementals by the number of totems you summoned this game

>>171579595
It's actually a 7 mana 8/10 though

>>171579704
Dies to flamestrike which is 3 mana more expensive than a 4 mana poly which is what the 8/10 would eat. Other aoes leave the 4/4 alive or straight up don't kill everything.

3 health is sinificant and its harder to deal with 2x 3hp and a 4 hp minion cleanly than a 8/10. If this card was "gain +4/+6 if you played an elemental" it would be garbage. As it is right now it's ridiculous.

Also a 8/10 into a established board would get punished even harder since single removal and everything else goes face. Or it straight up just gets ignored since it doesn't even protect your face.

>>171579157
Wait what? The card you get from white eyes isn't an elemental? The mother fucker is literally lightning

>>171579615
Of course, Elementals is like GvG Mechs.

>>171579563
Sure ever shaman deck would play it. What decks would play 4 mana 4/4 with no effect though? Stop comparing it to parts and think in context of when it appears. Do you think CotW is still overpowered at 9 because every part of it costs 3.5?

What decks will be able to compete with Elemental Shaman? I can't think of any

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Should have been obvious from the day they announced elemental synergy, that shaman was going to ascend to critical levels of brokenness.

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>>171580059

>>171579704
giving questions > answering

>>171580139
Nice, I always enjoy a meta where the counter is too play the same class

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I haven't kept up with reveals but this seems pretty good, just need a decent boardclear with it too.

>>171580082
>brokenness
Every class has cards to deal with it.
Mage just needs to save a polymorph for it, assuming it even sees play.

>>171580051
The entire point is that being more than its parts is BETTER. Why do you think sprint is 7 mana and arcane intellect is 3? Because card resources are also something you spend, and two cards should be stronger than one card with the same effect.

In this case it's the inverse, you play a 4/4 and get a no overload spirits for 3 mana. It would literally be worse to play two cards than just this one.

>>171579704
>Using AoE on one card
My sides

>>171580241
>flamestriking one card

such value

>>171580226
> decent boardclear
> paladin

>>171580226
>decent board clear
Nothing in paladin that costs 4 mana can wipe a field for 3, assuming you didn't play him just to Pyroquality.
Truesilver will let you get rid of one target for 1 health but that's still your entire turn.

It's not as awful as everyone's saying it is but he's not much better than Wickerflame.
A neat card that would do good in control, but not necessarily needed.

>>171577956
Ozruk is unplayable but elemental Shaman looks like it's gonna be fun

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> Some people are already afraid of Ozruk
> They instant crafted this now

t o p k e k

>>171579867
>9 shadowsteps with lorewalker shenanigans
>1 fire fly with reduces cost
>play fire fly and elemental
>play shadowstep on it and play it again 9 times with elementals
20*5+5=105 health
probably could get some more if you had a brann there and did some crap with aviana+khun+shadowcaster, though I'm not going to bother checking what you could potentially get it up to that way

>>171579157
>Arcane Anomoly
>Anomoly
kek

>>171579704
>1 (ONE) card needs the best aoe clear in the entire game to be dealt with cleanly
>as a class that tends to flood the board with extreme ease

Congrats you blew one of your two flames trikes on one card. Hope you can deal with all my other shit now teehee.

>>171573293
This.
It's been one of the biggest discard is not a good mechanic in Hearthstone. The fact that you can't choose which cards to discard means that you can't always throw out your silverware golem and win. It's made random because choosing too many effects is difficult for phonefags, which is why I hate them. Phonefags are such a large source of revenue that they have to be considered even if it means the game suffers tremendously because of them.

>>171580395
>>171580395
I mean even if it's enter the colusium tier I'll take it

>>171580241
>just save polymorph bro
>meanwhile the shaman is playing 7/8 earth elementals

>>171580241
The new legendary is not the point. It's that the best elementals currently in the game, by a landslide, are all shaman cards.

>>171579958
Apples and oranges m8. If this was straight up 8/10 taunt for 7 people would play same way people play crusher shaman right now. Zoo board can easily clear 2 2/3 taunts while losing nothing, but it will all suicide into 8/10, polymorph will evaporate 8/10 while it will do nothing against 2 2/3. If meta would be rogue heavy Sentinel would be super good, if it would be warlock and mage heavy it would only be so-so. Think in context.

>>171579704
>making the mage waste a 7 mana aoe for a 7 mana card
>bad
I take it HS is your first card game?

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>>171580501
It's an epic card :^)

>>171580448
>people afraid of ozruk

literally why, it does in fact just die to removal and it's far too late game to actually stop any kind of aggro deck.

At least with Soggoth you could fuck over Rogues and Priest hard

>>171580337
7 mana 1 card for 7 mana 1 card. WOW SUCH A BAD TRADE WOW. kys

>>171580448
Ozruk is pretty shit, but the sheer ammount of taunt cards revealed will be nice for dusting off my BK from my collection.

>>171580689
>>171579704
It even leaves the mage having used 7 mana, which was most likely on curve, so now you have the initiative again assuming the board was yours

Jade shaman is still better. They're gonna need to print something even more broken if they want people to play elementals.

>>171580689
I you don't gain card advantage from you Flamestrike you just wasted it.

>>171580689
It is quite literally a bad trade you dipshit, especially when the mage is using their entire turn to deal with it and thus gives you initiative

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>Another useless 9 mana legendary when games are over before turn 6.
Control cucks still defend Blizzard

>>171580689
>opponent plays faceless
>blow pyro on it

Clean value trade lads

>>171580689
The best possible reactive counter to a proactive card is supposed to be better than that.

>>171574635
What bots do you use?

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>>171580448
The time has come and so have I.

>>171580885
nice try

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>>171580501
S H A M A N S T O N E

2KFOREVER

>JADE
>ELEMENTAL
>CONTROL
>AGGRO
>TAUNTS, AOE, BOARDCLEARS, HEALS

THEY'LL KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT UNTIL THE END OF TIME

>>171580814
It's the opposite. Aggro-shitters defend Blizzard because otherwise they wouldn't be able to exist.

>>171580946
>Black Knight used to be in every deck\
>fallen to the wayside
>with Elemental introduction we might possibly get other creature types
>like Undead

This is only the beginning.

>>171580580
If mage was ahead on tempo when you played sentinel using flamestrike to clear it probably means you lose some 10 health and lose game next turn to fireballs. Sentinel is really good on empty board, just like Cenarius, not so good if you losing or winning. Also comparing HS to other card games is supreme stupidity, MTG or yugioh work on completly different dinamics.

>>171579157
>Where is the Djinn?
>Where is Jade spirit?
>Where is Twillight elemental?
>Where is Hallazele?
>Where is the Illidan's spwans?

BK is too slow and conditional, thats why it fell out of favor, thats why it stays out of favor

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>>171580946
>wanted BK ever since I started in season 2
>still didn't pull him

I bet I'm instantly going to pull it after crafting him

>>171581095

>Where is Jade spirit?

Imagine if they gave that a buff

>>171581202
um I think it's still good against druid especially since they run behemoths on top of war and claw

>>171581202
You have to hit a high priority taunt that your opponent invested their entire turn into playing for him to be worth it, so that pretty much just never happens.

>>171581070
NEW XPAC: RAVE AT THE FROZEN THRONE

>>171581316
>>171581095
A spirit isnt an element.
It seems they are only showing collectable cards, and not summons. It could very well have twilight elemental inside it.
So that'd also explain illdian, assuming those are even elementals to begin with

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>>171580226
>it's a worse version of a card no one uses already episode

>>171581395
>the plague is like roofies and Tirion lectures you not to take drinks from strangers
>the female lich is now also a crazy cat lady because that's wacky

>>171580831
The best possible reactive counter to it is spelldamage lightning storm, Auchenai circle or hellfire coil. Or some other super effective board clear which i can't remember instantly.
>>171580801
Doesn't really work like that, it all depends on matchup. Also since you had to play elemental previous turn that theoretical flamestrike cleared it too.

>>171581429
But the jade spirit is an elemental from pandarie, but green. They could consider it a jade spirit or whatever they want.

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>queue into ranked using renolock
>warlock mirror
>turns out he's playing a shitty discard/murloc deck
>destroy his pathetic deck
>"A recent opponent would like to be your friend!"
>typical salty shit
>namecalling before unfriending

Not my fault you queued into ranked with a shit deck. Hope you don't mind missing legend.

>>171581664
Is it? I'm not entirely a guru on WoW lore, but it just made sense to say Jade isn't really an element. If they described it as an elemental before it's just plain silly not to do it now, at least without not properly explaining it'd be too good. My apologies, either way.

>>171581852
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Pandaren_spirit
See this. I think it's weird.

>>171581647
>Doesn't really work like that, it all depends on matchup
Obviously, if you already have good board control, you can use your Flamestrike+ping to kill his 5 health creature for example. But you'll most likely be behind as a mage.
And if Shaman played Fire Elemental into this new 7 mana card, your Flamestrike doesn't clear the board unless you had something on board yourself.

>>171581527
>[insert thriller reference] the card
>Wacky lich king adventures

sounds like hearthstone, its not like they'd do something awesome like have an Arthas and Ner'zhul card which start a quest where the requirements mimic their path and the end result is your hero transforming into the Lich King with the WC3 soundbite "Now we are One"

Who else is DEing all their jade cards in order to craft elementals?

>>171581852
>>171581934
Yes, there is no Jade spirit, but it's not like Hearthstone never created new things.

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>>171581934
>>171582047
It seems to be an "earth" elemental, not a Jade one? What the hell is a jade anyways?

>>171581202
BK will probably be played again if the game goes control again.
So yeah, you're right it'll never see play ever again.

I wonder if there's any chance of a Chen Stormstout legendary with a condition to summon 4 elemental clones

>>171577956
WARNING: Elementals may explode

>>171581852
The Hearthstone lore is that Aya uses Kuns powers to animate statues made out of jade. So it's not the power of the elements making it a living something, but Kuns stolen energy. Or something like that.

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>>171581829
I really don't understand how adding people and talking shit about netdecks is a sustainable practice.

Like, do they do this every fucking time they lose?

Are they this fucking mentally unstable?

Baffles my mind.

>>171582081
Yes, but what it is if it's not a pandaren elemental? There is no such thing in wow. Un'goro even give you a tar elemental, so a jade one isn't so stupid.

I need to craft aya, so I need to dust two legendaries:

I got:
hobbart grapplehook or something, the 2 mana 2/2 warrior add +1 attack to your weapons

malkorok: equip a random weapon

Rafaam, the supreme archeologist

>>171581852
Jade is stone so it'd be earth element, but jade spirits are related to mogus so that's moot.
>>171581095
Hallazeal is an ascended humanoid (not sure of his race) not an elemental.
Flames of azzinoth are made of fel, that's closer to demon considering infernals are demons. But then again, fel is corrupted arcane and we got two arcane elementals.
Djinns are wind spirits, not elementals. That's like saying troggs should be elementals.
>>171579157
shadow and am'gam should be elementals if light and magma is, but if they set precedent for shade we'd need shifting shade and ancient shade as well and since priest will have combo and deathrattle as archetypes, I think they don't want to give him elementals as well.

>>171582331
What do you think about people adding you to bitch about you not using a netdeck?

>>171582296
An elemental is just primal energy forming into a living being isn't it? So it'd make sense that someone elses energy, like Kuun is not an elemental
>>171582362
I guess tar is at least natural.. Then again, Jade is a gem which also is natural.

Blizzard.. ??

>>171582386
Dust Rafaam and Hobart.

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>>171582296
>Hearthstone lore

>>171582470
Why is that? malkorok seems way worse than rafaam, the suprememe archeologisto

he can discover you a win condition right?

>>171582386
if you can deal with dusting adventures dust rafaam it's shit (I never dust adventures but w/e)
malkorok is currently more useful than hobbart, however hobbart has the potential to be very good if warrior gets more weapons

>>171582386
Don't craft aya, save your dust for Elementalstone

>>171573053
>arena for profit is a meme

its better than spending gold on packs tho

>>171582274
Anyone else unironically miss Dr. Boom? Didn't even realize how good we had it back there until now.

>>171582590
Rafaam is too slow, there are better late game legendaries that give value right away and others that are better as win conditions.
Malkorok is great in a tempo warrior deck.

>>171582386

>crafting this close to the new expansion

>>171581956
In the end it really just depends on situation. Imho it's slightly below powerlevel of fire elemental and still really good card. Condition is actually pretty relevant, not every game you will have perfect fire elemental on t6, its not card you can play in aggro and midrange have better finishers. We'll see if elementals will have good enough support, card is good, but not good enough to carry elementals by itself.

>>171582590
They cost 10 mana and are usually not even that good most of the time. Malkorok is always as a solid body and a free weapon.

>>171582680
I miss playing for at least 7 turns, not Dr. Boom

>>171582434
Djinn totally looks like an elemental to me!
http://wow.gamepedia.com/File:Anshal.jpg

Also, Hallazele have elemental in their name:http://wow.gamepedia.com/Elemental_ascendant

>arena
>shitty hunter deck
>just go face
>sitting at 9-1 at this moment
We're long overdue for an increase to heroes' health.

>>171573481
nope, but they're probably going to nerf it once bli$$ard realises people are spending less money since they get a pack few games. Craft elise right away and play as many games as you can with her before they change it

>>171582434
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Ozruk

Also, Ozkruk seems less like an elemental than every other of these things.

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>>171582362
>Jade Elemental

pls don't give blizzard ideas

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SNEAK PEEK ON THE NEXT BALANCED SHAMAN CARD

>>171583042
*SCREAMS*

>>171572054
They also said they are considering replacing Conceal with Gang Up

>priest gets a discover card you can actually build around to completely eliminate the random factor out of effectively making it a flexible tutor for 3 spells.
>cards like pyros, firefly and flame geyseir add stuff to your hand for future value that's not random
>mage gets a secret tutor hen they have relevant secret support but no broken wonder card like mad scientist
I like this expansion because it's beginning to get away from random a random target choosen randomly