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NOTE: You will be playing against bots in casual queue until you reach account level 5.

>Official pages
Website: https://www.paladins.com/
Forums: http://forums.paladins.com/
Server status: http://status.hirezstudios.com/

>FAQ, useful links etc.
http://pastebin.com/mx4LjKSz

>Patch notes (OB46)
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?33762

>Datamine (OB46)
http://smitedatamining.com/paladins-ob-46-datamining-seris-oracle-cards-and-flak-fairy

>Steam Store
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090/

>Paladins Wiki
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Paladins_Wiki

>Tutorials made by Hi-Rez (playlist) - may contain some outdated info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmzT6CSvg8&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNyc6n9nhYujLyniK69nMFrB

>Champion guides made by Hi-Rez (playlist) - may contain some outdated info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p9Ptob5pC4&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNwUxmoNDngInm4DnaanoKS9

>Decks
http://www.paladinsdecks.com/

>/palg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6NNDQLSytCCoExPCtt48Bq9_Sv_Ha4qZkOeHS1DcS8/edit#gid=485142380

>Account statistics
http://masterpaladins.com
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first for lizards
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I want to protect Fernando's smile!
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This frontline isn't fun, funline when
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Ying is ____
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>>171524059
A good healer with a range that is always longer than you'd like to be on the recieving end of but a shorter one than you'd like to be giving
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>>171523912
>Not playing Turret Dwarf, Rock Milf, or Chain Turtle
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>>171524438
Chain turtle's losing CC immunity on his ult next patch.
Enjoy being rooted.
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>>171524593
Rooted while Tyra throws a Fire Bomb under your feet.
Enjoy your turtle soup!
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>>171524810
god frontlines are such a joke in this game
I mean it's nice that they aren't steamrollers if you somehow manage to get two of them instead of three damages and a flank, but goddamn is it hard to make it fun to play them as a character. Especially since Nando's shield doesn't work if you go backwards.
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>>171524593
I'll drag all of you down with me
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>>171524978
Tyra's firebomb has no friendly fire.
Except on her. Go figure, right?
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>>171524948
>pick Torvald
>opponents frontline kept a distance so I couldn't attack
>by the end of the match 2 of them had Wrecker 3, another 2 had Caut 3
>tfw couldn't even get close to the point because I'd get shredded even while Recharging with ying right behind me
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>>171525512
>enemy Torvald
>two-thirds of your team pick bulldozer
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>>171524593
>characters are CC immune universally while ulting
>even Cassie is CC immune and her ult doesn't do shit
>glow yellow = you cannot be CC'd is easy to understand
>except for this one LMAO
sausage hirest

>>171524948
they need to scrap the frontline concept and make a bruiser role or something
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>>171525804
Buck and Tyra glow yellow during ult and you can CC them all you want.
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>Inara rides her horse side-saddle

C U T E
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Finally decided to play Inara. Wow, that was definitely the least amount of fun I've ever had playing this game.
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>>171525804
>characters are CC immune universally while ulting
Tyra player here

Bullshit
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>>171526915
>characters are CC immune universally while ulting
>BARRAGE INCO-
>*hooks*
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>>171526985

Hook doesn't count as CC in Hirez's book, I think you can still get hooked during Makoa's ultimate currently. It's only things that resilience counters.
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>>171527272
u can't
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>>171526342
>Cockblocking with walls and blasting squishies
>Not fun
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>>171527272
you can't hook cassie or makoa, and totemic ward prevents it. it's cc
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>>171527392

>Blasting squishies
>With 675 DPS only at close range with no way to increase it
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>>171527392
I blocked a bomb king ult, still wasn't having fun
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>>171527582
>And 50% damage reduction with massive stone boobs.

>>171527825
Eh, then don't play Inara then, it's not much unless you are creative with the wall.
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>>171526342
Cause she's garbage.
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>>171527958

50% damage reduction doesn't mean you're going to blast squishies, it means you're both going to shoot uselessly at each other and neither one of you is actually going to die.

Might as well just replace everyone's guns with foam dart guns.
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>>171527958
boobs XD
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>>171524948
>god frontlines are such a joke in this game
>Pick Makoa
>Pick the lego for the extra hook damage
>Oneshot squishies
Wow so hard
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>>171525804
>characters are CC immune universally while ulting
You can still stun Grover/Vik/Tyra/Xiao Xuan while they ult
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>>171528461
>oneshot
there's already a containment game for this cancer
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>>171525091
To avoid griefing.
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>>171528651
I was exaggerating but getting hooked while against a competent team means you are dead 100% of the time.
>Hear the hook sound
>Inmediately look at your big fat tank and proceed to shoot blindly
>Everyone gets free credits.
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When will Inara get a r63 Ymir skin?
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>>171528784
>get a hook/get hooked
>BRs and cykas don't capitalize on it
we're not playing the same game mate
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>>171528784
But that's at least a 1v2 or more. No tank should be able to win a 1v1 just with a hook.
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>>171525804
>Characters that are CC-immune while ulting:
>Makoa
>Androxus (FOR SOME FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH HE SHOULDN'T BE)
>Bomb King
>Cassie
>Drogoz
>Fernando
>Grohk
>Inara
>Ruckus

Grover and Makoa are slightly strange in that they can be Pip-chickened during their ults, but it doesn't cancel them. It feels like Makoa's chicken duration is also half as long during ult.
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>>171528931
You don't understand my pain anon
3k elo is literally hell, everyone knows how to duel properly and where/what to do, and if you lose the first teamfight means you already lost the point.
Also lots of 5-man stacks of pro teams warming up before their shitty tourneys
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>>171529208
I do actually. I'm 2.8k and stuck in a limbo since I'm not good enough to win against the autists and not bad enough to lose against the BRs.
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>>171529191

>(FOR SOME FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH HE SHOULDN'T BE)

Most androxus ult in the air anyways. I doubt people would CC him in the air unless it's a really good Makoa and if he ults in front of you, you are dead pretty fast.
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>>171529147
Well too bad homo
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>>171528461
Not everyone can land the hook reliably. Unless they're on the other team.
>>171528750
That's understandable, but
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I instantly quit the match if the other team is using Maeve. There has never in the history of multiplayer gaming been a more broken character.
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>>171530802
Wow, what a pussy.
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>>171530802
>whining about Maeve after the gutting she got in last patch
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>>171529513
>Most androxus ult in the air anyways. I doubt people would CC him in the air

exactly

if you hook out of the sky you DESERVE to kill him

But nope, CC immunity because ???
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>>171530802
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kinessa mains should be round up and shot
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>>171532771
A world without drybear sounds great
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>>171531291
maeve did not deserve this T__T
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>>171532771
Just once I'd like an FPS game to have the balls not to include some stupid sniper rifle weapon/class/loadout/hero/whatever.

They're never fun, they're never balanced, they always attract the absolute worst kind of players.
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>>171532829
Yes she did.
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>>171532829

I agree, the nerf was kinda heavy
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>>171532829
She should be in the gutter, like the guttertrash she is.
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>>171533214
Kinessa at least isn't an instant kill on everyone. Glad they knew enough to avoid that.
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What's an ezmode damage character if I'm dogshit at landing hits with Drogoz' rockets
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>>171533727
Tyra/Viktor.
Even easier if you use aim assist like a good 80% of the pros do.
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>>171533874
What's Tyra's best legendary?
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>>171533989
Free Life Rip 2 is pretty good, and Hunting Party is good if your team works together well.
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>>171533989

Mercy kill
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>>171533989
All of them first blood for full frontal assault, hunting party to fuck people up in particular, and mercy kill for assassinating
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>>171533874
>Even easier if you use aim assist like a good 80% of the pros do.
is this a meme
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>>171534449
Probably, I'm just bullshitting.
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>>171528927
>Complete with voice pack
>Set on fire effect: "I'm melting! I'm MELTING! What a world, what a-*distorts into moans of a highly sexual nature, because it's still Inara, let's be real*"
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>>171532829
She really did
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>>171532829
>T__T
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Is this game mildly or severely unbalanced?
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>>171536395
This game is Hi-rez tier unbalanced
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>>171536395

mildly
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>>171536395
It's pretty mild. Being able to customize cards and items allows you to adapt a bit.
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>>171533214
Fucking this so hard.
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>>171536395
The unbalancedness comes from your team.
A good character will lose with a shit team, a bad character will do better with a good team.
Pro tip, you do more damage if you're not dead half the game.
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>>171537573
>Pro tip, you do more damage if you're not dead half the game.
This gives me an idea for a new strategy.
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>>171537721
Playing Inara and walling yourself into a corner?
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>>171539309
I was thinking about picking cards that increase health by like 200, but your idea is better.
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>>171539595
Why not do both? Buy only cards that buff the wall and your survivability, just in case they get to you in spawn somehow.
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>>171524810

If you aren't buying the CC reduction burn card against root Grover, you're wrong anyways.
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Flankers are lowskill heroes for shitters who need ezmode instawin characters
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>>171539932
But edgy revolver man of coming death with bells is fun
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>>171540368
I still don't get why he's a flanker, he has 1 mobility skill. Should have just been a damage like Cassie
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>>171532771
>>171533214
Agreed. They said that they were trying to avoid anyone having 1 shot kills outside of ULTs....look at us now. Also Drogoz can be 1 shot next patch so look forward to that.
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>>171540630
because after a certain distance he does less damage than frontliners
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Nerf Maeve into unusability
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>>171536395
Some of the characters and items are pretty broken. I'd say it leans into severe especially with the shitty matchmaking.
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>>171536395
Severe. Flankers are disgustingly broken, as are most of the damage heroes, while playing support or front line is pure misery.

People like to shit on Overwatch's TTK, which is hilarious because a good Viktor, Drogoz, Androxus or Maeve can literally delete you just by looking in your direction.
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>>171541286
Shes honestly one of the least annoying flankers after her nerf.
If I had to rank them from least to most annoying:
Maeve / Buck / Evie / Andro = Skye


They should reinstate her excellent mobility & lower her damage.
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best drogoz legendary?
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>>171542149
Fusillade
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>>171542149
W.Y.R.M Jets for solo do everything fun.
Fusillade if you want to rely on your team a bit more and just shit damage.
Combustible if you want enemy team to hate themselves.
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So if movement speed bonuses don't stack, with nimble providing no effect during something like hustle for instance, do other abilities not stack as well? If you take a 20% reload bonus and buy Deft Hands 1, will you have 40% faster reloading or will it just cancel out and give you 20%? Or cards that give lifesteal to an ability, will those stack with life rip?
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>Select your character
>Everyone on the team picks a good character
>Frontliners and Supports without even having to be the last person to pick
>Looks like a great team and I can pick something I don't normally use and try it out
>Dickfart on the other team failed to make a selection, returning to matchmaking queue

Every time.
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>do kind of well with a character
I am a god
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>>171543343
Life rip stacks, reload doesn't.
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>>171545585
>everyone insta locks damage/flank as usual
>fuck it guess I'll go damage too
>some guy switches to a tank or healer at the last second giving no1 else time to react & change accordingly


class rework/overhaul when
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>>171543343
>>171548030
Reload does stack. The cap is 60%
They really need to reduce the cost of Deft Hands though. Too expensive for what it is.
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>>171548032

>Someone locks in as Frontline, no one is Support
>Lock in as Support
>Frontline switches away with less than 5 seconds left
>Quickly switch to damage because I'm not about to Support without a Frontliner
>Someone else switches to Frontline at the very last second

Something needs to change for sure.
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>>171548225
Only BUCK uses it anyway.
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>>171548032
>some guy switches to a tank or healer at the last second giving no1 else time to react & change accordingly

Holy fuck this happens way too often

>Pick Grohk
>Guy picks Pip
>Oh cool, i'll go Torvald then since we don't have a tank and he's a healer
>Switches to Skye at the last second
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>>171548336
It's good for Mal'Damba too, at least you are not stuck fondling your snake for 2 seconds before the stun.
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>Kinessa pick on Jaguar Falls
>Surprised that she's Andro's snack
Why would you even pick her on this map, there are no good spots for her.
Also
>be a healer
>Andro pretty much openly waltzes into Kinessa's cubbie, dashes loudly as fuck
>Press [VBE] to warn her, spawn illusion for her
>She hasn't unscoped for a second
>dead immediately
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>>171548757
>Guy picks Pip
>Oh cool he's a healer
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>>171549435
>Guy picks Pip
>it's acrobatics Pip with weightless loadout
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I wish Skye was me mom
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>>171549435
Pip has the amazing potential of being an excellent support if Hi-Rez stops being fucking incompetent and fixes his goddamn potion.
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>>171549435
I've had games where they actually used healing flask on CD. And we won easy too. Healing Pips exist.
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>Playing Survival with Grohk
>Took cards for max totem healing possible
>Put totem down
>Everyone runs out
>"Wow can i get healed please!?"
>"Noob healer" followed by spic speak and brazillian monkey language

Why is everyone but me retarded in these matches?
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>>171524059
With Tyra
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>>171523670
I have a problem deciphering what is happening in this picture.
But I think that Andro's dick is about to be shoot off.
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>>171550798
I bet you didn't even see Lex in the picture.
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>>171548032
Fuck, that just happened to me.
I'm fine playing anything the team needs but if you're all going to be damage/flank then fuck it.
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haha
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>>171549435
I heal with pip when I use him, he does pretty mediocre healing though. Would do better with Grover/Ying.
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>>171552563
I don't get it
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>>171551352
It's pretty dark in this picture, so he blends in very well.
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>>171552585
He does burst healing which is much more valuable then sustained healing but only if the opponent has no cauterize
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>>171552703
Boob envy.
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>>171553176
The low AoE means you don't get as many people as you'd like and the burst healing means over healing's a problem.
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>Skye jaja player goes invisible in front of me while I'm shooting at someone else
>with low hp
>instadies while I didn't even see him
>pm me calling me a hacker and some words in jajanese
>his whole cartel also calls me a hacker in the lobby chat after they lose

BUILD THAT WALL, INARA
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>damage gimped because of side tanks nerf
>potion still bugged half of the time
Is Pip going to be useless next patch?
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>pick random damage dealer
>switch to Pip in the last second w/ damage loadout
>win

palatards???
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>>171553439
You can run faster with smaller boobs remember
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reminder that no competitive shooter worth its salt has tits in any form
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>>171559515
quake??? fuck off kid
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>>171560585
If Maeve is the reddit champion, then who is /palg/ champion? Is it /ourguy/ and neet Buck?
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>>171532829
What happened to maeve? I don't see it in the patch notes.
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>>171532829
PIXIE FIX MAEVE PLEASE ;_; DO IT YOU ARE THE CHAMPION OF /PALG/
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>>171561263
Skye, I suppose
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>>171561667
>>171561974

Got hit by a tsunami of nerfs, Evie is pretty much her but better. Still usable though.
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>>171562610
>>171561667
She got GUTTED and now they're adding a champion that's a direct counter to her! #freemaeve
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>>171562467
Ugh, gross. No way.
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>>171561263
Grohk
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>>171563938
That's someone I could get behind.
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>>171565407
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>>171563938
>>171565407
>play grohk
>see drogoz ulting right at you
>ghost walk last second
>goes straight through you and bops your fernando stood behind you

This will never make me not laugh
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>>171539739
isn't that bugged so root isn't affected by that?
or was it fixed?
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>>171567328
It was affected, it just didn't reduce it enough.

It was fixed already though.
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This game really is just a shittier Overwatch
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>skye has built-in cauterize when she's a flank so she's going to build cauterize eventually anyways

what's the point
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>>171568691
Because it used to stack with cauterize but hi-rez got rid of the mechanic without updating champion skills. smart devs
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>>171568686
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>Fernando, with Shield off CD, desperately fends off a Drogoz that misses every attempt to Dragon Punch
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How the fuck do you play BK
I can't hit shit with him
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>>171569082
Are you trying to get your stickies on people? Because it's better to just try to detonate them in the air when they are near enemy, even if you are missing direct hits you can still apply some area damage.
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>>171523670
mfw i get a daily match in bad state
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>>171569020
Kek.
That's a very handsome Fernando and Drogoz.
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>>171568686

Only if you are a graphics whore
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>>171568686
"buggier" is the word i woud use
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fernando's fireball should be doubled in damage but have range falloff

it's just so stupid that other people can ignore you entirely, whereas if you ignore Torvald or Barik or Makoa he'll fuck you up.
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>Pick Fernando
>Put shield up
>Still constantly taking damage from the front

Explain...
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>>171570751
>picks fernando
>walks backwards

the absolute madman
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>>171570751
don't move or you'll take damage

Fernando's shield is buggy and has been bugged for months.
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>>171570553
>fernando's fireball should be doubled in damage

fuck no
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>>171570751

don't walk backwards, the shield hitbox and his own get fucked
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since everyones talking fernando, how is he from the last couple months? i remember he was gutted around the time I left the game

unrelated but does poppy bomb king still work? I had a build from a long while ago that someone posted here to basically send people flying away but I don't seem to do any damage. my loadout is Countdown 2/Exp Entrance 1/Bomb Shelter 2/ Jolt 4/ Royal Decree 3
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>>171570553
Nando's fireball is pretty dangerous up close
If anything i kinda want it to be like grover's axe just so i can disrupt snipers
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Is there anything new from Snekmans new skin or is it still not shown yet?
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>>171571141
Nando still is one of the weaker frontlines. Wrecker is still too strong.
i dunno about BK.
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>>171570751
That's what you get for playing frontline, idiot
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>>171570751
You were backing off and bringing disgrace to the knighthood. The damage you took is self-inflicted, Fernando's wounded pride did it to him.
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>>171571141
fernando is the weakest frontline in the game and he still will be while his shield is utter garbage

Jolt Bomb King was nerfed because shitters couldn't deal with it. You should still be doing damage with him, but you have to detonate in the correct way (read: mid-flight, just get close enough to almost stick people). Bomb King is played mostly as a flanker now.
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>>171530802
You can easily kill her with ANY hero. Fernando plows through her like he does so many women, supports like Mal Dhamba can stunlock her to death and has a beefy 400+ damage per shot. Ying can remove half her health with two illusion bombs and any other flanker can outmaneuver her aside from Skye. But Skye is bad because she has no vertical movement so she is a nonfactor.
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With Lex coming and the nerfs Drogoz is ded, again
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>>171552439
Same. I'm not going on point as frontliner to be deleted by the enemy team when everyone else is playing like it's TF2. Fernando doesn't need this shit. Funnily enough the Maeve kept shit talking me even though she died 21 times and I was the one on the point the most. I get way too muck of a kick put of pissing off teammates I don't like.
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>>171569082
You basically shoot like this. Look at how I completely miss the Viktor but still almost do full damage.

You're sacrificing DPS to have higher accuracy, so against stationary or stunned targets, just keep throwing, but otherwise you should be attacking like this. Pros do this to be more reliable, even though they could probably land the sticks.
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>>171571141
I still use him because I find Ruckus too damn fragile and Makoa I find more use as a hook man. I'm not even sure if I want to try out Barik. From experience as Grohk and Ying I know the enemy team will go out of their way to shoot my turrets. And unlike the Engineer and Torbjorn he can't just wach his turrets to make them good and healed up.
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>>171573052
good
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>>171571141
>i remember he was gutted around the time I left the game
I don't know when you left the game, but murdering Fernando was a long process, one nerf every second patch till he was almost unusable, unlike Barik that just got kicked in the dick hard in one patch and disappeared from the meta until now. Sad thing with Nando is that he lost legendary lottery, where some champions got bonuses (like Viktor that got free Aggression 3) he got his fireball damage stacking removed and put into legendary, and his other two are either useless (Formidable) or destroyed by wrecker (Aegis). But since other frontliners are getting gimped maybe he will be back? Who knows.
BK's Jolt no longer sends you into space, but he got some adjustments like simpler aiming so he feels easier to play now.
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>>171573052
Don't you worry, another Combustible bug will surely keep him in the meta.
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>>171573428
If Aegis even worth it when the other card gives you free healing? Often times I find my shield breaking so fast I'd rather turn it off manually to go charge in and burn everyone with my kit.
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>>171568686
Eh sue 'em
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>>171573556
Formidable has 40s cd, so it's really situational. Maybe worth picking if your healer sucks? It's going to be buffed in this patch, so it might be actually good now.
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>>171573556
>>171573686
Aegis basically makes you have a shield every 8 seconds (plus chronos if you're literally fine with being a snail) which can also have healing attached to it, whereas Formidable has x4 the cooldown for not even that much better.

But yeah, we'll see how it pans out.
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>>171573815
Yeah that is true. Aegis + Veteran = pseudo Formidable. At least that's the plan when the hitbox doesn't glitch. Strangely enough I never got it as bad as you all claim it to be. I do often get my veteran healing stopped even though I didn't take damage, but I never had anything like getting heat shotted through my barrier or anything.
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>>171574045
Supabounce on twitch just got mowed down by a Viktor through his shield and the killcam showed as much - he wasn't moving, either.
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>thought Tyra was a trashcan
>realize they've been playing her in the tournaments
>she's actually really fun
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Will Jewbear pull a Maeve with Flak and make her a mothgirl?
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>>171561667
>>171562610
>>171562723
>gutted
She got a late "skill moved to a legendary" nerf last patch and now everybody thinks she's bad.
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>>171574193
Didn't Supabounce's Makoa got killed by Sha Lin while shielding last week? I remember people being pissed about it.
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>>171576045
All her skill got a nerf.
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>>171576045
the thing is that she wasn't even strong before her nerfs, she could just 1v5 teams that never turned around or didn't have healers

now she still does it but five flank vs five flank games are a little better off

>>171574045
Makoa's shield is the only one that gives free out-of-combat regen.
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>>171568686
I think its better
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>>171565843
>not picking wraith and saving your tank's ass

s my fucking h
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>>171576665
i can't get top damage without maelstrom though
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>>171576045

>nine lives healing moved to leggo
>-100 dmg and range reduced for pounce
>reduced speed in prowl and increased CD

>one skill

She is as fast as a running Viktor during prowl now
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>pip ult, enemy team scatters
>chase after someone
>he's the only one there with resilience
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>>171576665
>saving a dumbass frontline player
lol
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>>171578032
I did that as a Viktor once. Was on stone keep and saw a Drogoz zeroing in on our frontline/healer.
So I did the only sane thing and ran/leapt in front of him because I knew I wouldn't be able to shoot him in time.
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>>171578189
i did that once too because i realized im shit at viktor and if i cant deal damage i might at least try to prevent it

i still havent touched viktor since, and that was months ago
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>>171578189
>>171578502
it's better that you keep shooting him and kill him as soon as he kills the tank and turn the game into a 4v4, rather than a 5v4.
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>>171578997
Well, the thing is I cockblocked him mere feet away from the other two, and he died shortly thereafter. So it was a net win in my book.
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>>171557549
He's going to end like Fernando. Maybe not this patch, but soon. If you blink you will miss it.
But since Raynday is a furry now, maybe he can get some adjustments for him.
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>>171557549
>>171579768
Naaaaaah, drybear totally likes the idea of different supports and he isn't constantly trying to push Pip into a mostly healer role.
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>>171578189
>>171578502
I was playing Torvald yesterday and Evie jumped in front of Dragon Punch that was targeting me, noble, but useless sacrifice since I was already hiding behind two illusions. I don't think it was on purpose, since her potg with double kill showed her killing Mal'Damba and Androxus and then running away from Sha Lin, which ended with getting punched. I avenged her nevertheless, because we killed Drogoz with Ying and then I blew their Ruckus and Sha off the map and completed the push.
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Thread reminder that Sha lin is actually a heterosexual and not a fag.
Sha lin loves Maeve!

Also everybody that thinks that Sha lin and Fernando have even one small chance of being together, and having a happy ending are delusional.
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>>171580369
Do you have any tips/build for playing Torvald? I only played him once in training and I have no clue when/where to place my turrets/shield.
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>>171580597
>turrets
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>>171580397
XD
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>>171580397
DELET THIS
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>>171580873
Dang it I meant Barik. It's Barik, not Torvald. I keep mixing it up because Torvald sounds like Torbjorn.
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>>171580397
amigo and chink is already canon
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>>171580397
hohoho
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>>171581438
hehehe
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>>171580397
I would rather believe in Sha Lin loving Grumpy Bomb than this unlovable wench that is Maeve.
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>>171580397

As a Sha Lin main I can get behind this ship
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>tfw you are so good the entire enemy team focus on you
>to the point of having Skyes or Mal Dambas solo ult you

This should be a good feel but it isn't, my stupid team loses every fucking time
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>let's update paladins, in the meantime let's also check new champions
>a female frontliner got added!
>0 muscle definition on her not even abs
>mfw
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>>171581240
Best build is the turret build, healing station 4 is the core and then you can just pick whatever you like, either faster deploying for the turrets, combat repair or even lower cd on barricade if you want to be more bulky. Place the turrets in the places where they can't be easily destroyed, so more in the back or slightly obscured by some corners and master the art of dancing in your barricade, meaning that when enemy goes on your side you immediately go on the other. Or stay in the middle because I think it can block attacks from above. And aim for headshots, it's stupidly easy to get them with Barik.
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>>171582284
Well, she IS chiseled out of pure rock.
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>>171582284
And she's the worst champion in the game.
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>>171582284

Rock is hard
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>>171582457
Sadly that is true. She has one of the longest cooldowns, her wall is grief inducing and doesn't block the payload from moving, her damage falloff is abyssmal and her ult barely tickles and the 2 second stun might as well not exist.
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>>171580046
>drybear totally likes the idea of different supports
>Grohk's dps is getting nerfed too, for the second time
Suuuure.
Grover is probably next on the chopping block, neither tanks nor supports are allowed to have fun.
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>>171582440
>>171582507
Why don't HiRez go the Overwatch direction with females, aka make a waifu for every taste? It worked wonders for Blizzard. All I need is my zarya equivalent you fucking jews

>>171582457
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>171582946
They will, eventually. I'm still in desperate need of a shortstack in the roster.
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>>171582457
>>171582730
I think if you just gave her more range should could actually be a fun and useful champion. Like double the deploy range of her wall, fix inara falloff.webm, and give her field a small cast range maybe something like if she's standing on one side of the objective she has enough range to place it on the other side.
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>>171583221
If they gave her a but more range she would have alot more utility as an off tank. Even just making it so her wall can block the payload would make her a serious contender in pro matches.
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>>171582730
>her wall doesn't block the payload from moving
Imo it would be way too op if she could do that, free stagger every 15 s or so could be game changing.
However, you can still do that even now, but you have to put your wall behind the payload, so it won't get destroyed by it. Kinda hard to do, because you have to force your enemy off the cart, but I actually ended overtime on ice mines by placing the wall behind the payload and body blocking the only entrance that would allow access to it.
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>Post yfw Pixie won't sing "Think of a Wonderful Thought" when you activate her fly ability
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>>171574193
Okay, something got seriously fucked up after they added legendaries, before that you could have just stood still to avoid damage, now even Kinessa can headshot you through it.
I bet they were experimenting with shield piercing shots or some shit and someone forgot to scrape the code.
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>>171584889
>implying that meme company like Hi-rez whose motto is 'muh references' would pass such opportunity
Cheer up a little, would ya?
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>>171584889
STOP GIVING THEM MEME IDEAS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171585403
I can't tell if you're being genuine or parodying people like that.
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>tfw the new fairy will get a Cirno homage skin before Evie does

J U S T
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>>171582946
>Why don't HiRez go the Overwatch direction with females, aka make a waifu for every taste?
They still don't have a playable loli, we do, somewhat.

>>171585502
That's what makes 4chan wonderful, isn't it?
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>>171582946
>Why don't HiRez go the Overwatch direction with females, aka make a waifu for every taste?
They are too busy with pandering to furries, fampai.
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>>171585559
If they make a Marisa skin for Evie and a Cirno outfit for the fairy I'd be overjoyed, until they lock those skins in an even more expensive rng chest. I just want to play dress up but the rng won't let me.
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>>171573052
he's always been ok at bare minimum.
you want to see a dead champ look at fernando or pre-leggo skye
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>>171557549
They better fucking revert that. Playing catalyst Pip in survival was some of the most fun Iv had playing this game.
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>BK white castle skin
>he throws burgers at people
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>russian babysitting simulator
Every game without fail, thanks low-rez
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>>171586378
>pre-leggo skye
I'm really tired of this legendaries made Skye stronger meme
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>>171587876
she went from abysmal to mediocre, its not much of an improvement but it is one.
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>>171588152
It wasn't legendaries but the stealth detection range bug, let's be honest.
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>>171588152
>from abysmal to mediocre
I'm really tired of this legendaries made Skye stronger meme
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>>171587876
>resets ALL her CDs on kill
>with invisi bug, she cant be seen unless you're right next to her
>1500 DPS on left click & even more with poison bolts/headshots

I'm really tired of this Skye is bad meme
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>>171586876
>tfw you won't be able to completely shit on every Viktor or Tyra as Pip in the next patch
Man, I had so much fun watching them struggling to run away while slowed.
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>>171588435
but they did, preperation gives her something resembling an escape, which is all she ever needed to function
>>171588346
the stealth bug helped
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>tfw you hate Overwatch but the only alternative is this low budget buggy piece of Hirez garbage
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>>171589059
And what you're trying to say here, is...
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>>171580397
Get away from my daughter you creep chink! She's pure!
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>>171589316
He deleted it, but I still want to thank him for reminding me why I only visit /vg/.
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>>171523670
This game is shit. Played it, got to lv 34, and realized that the gameplay is utterly repetitive, and the rewards are non existent. I can only think of two reasons why anyone would want to play this game long-term.
1) because they cant afford or run overwatch
2) you want cheap game play

Enjoy your "open beta" shekel grabber shovelware.
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Desert chink deserves a friend, and Fernando deserves a slut to dump his cum in.

xd
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>>171580397
I want to fuck Sha lin's boypuss
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>>171590432
Holy shit, guys, Fernando is in the thread rn.
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>>171548250
> hover pip
> no tanks
> keep hovering and ask for a tank
> not happening
> switch to damage
> with 2 seconds left flank switches to barik
> omg pip now we don't have a support no heals gg
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>>171589021
quake champions later
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>>171590794
No way fags
Paladins is a robot-and-gay-free game
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>>171590886
Even with Pip there still wouldn't be any support, your potion would get buggy after the second use.
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>>171591110
>Gay free
>While Sha lin wants to become Fernando's personal cumdump and wife(male)
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>>171591110
But of course.
Both Sha Lin and Fernando are bisexual after all.
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>some champions still don't have sprays
>hi-rez releases new champions without sprays

Sprays are just rehashed card art and they can't even bother making them. Fucking kikes only put that shit in the game to fill chest I swear
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>>171589897
actually it was a janny
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>>171590794
>implying Fernando would ever write something so vulgar instead of courting Chink properly
First dinner, then you can fuck his boypuss all night long
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>>171591625
>tfw you thought it was something about Maeve because cats, and was wondering if you are not up to the freshest /palg/ memes
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>>171591595
The worst thing is that we did it to ourselves, since it was playerbase that kept asking for them.
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>>171591595
Best thing is the card art is hardly even relevant to the champion in 99% of cases, it's just some random shit or people running away from explosions

They must think the game is fuckin Magic the Gathering or something
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>try Drogoz
>get annihilated by Viktor
>try Maeve
>get annihilated by Vikor
>try Tyra
>get annihilated by Viktor

What a bullshit character. ADS in a game where none of the other characters can ADS gives him a bullshit advantage over everyone.
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>>171590274
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/e/e5/Sha_Lin_SP_SpawnChatter_Fernando_Instigate_1.ogg
One day Fernando will answer him, and it will be glorious.
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>>171592614
>try Tyra
>get annihilated by Viktor

now this is where you fucked up

Tyra should be beating Viktor in a straight 1v1.
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>>171586106
That would be pretty funny.
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>>171593156
Proper witch hat for Evie when?
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Is Inara any good? When will consoles get her?
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>>171592967
>Tfw /palg/ay may actually meme Fernando and Sha lin into becoming real
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>>171593358
don't do this
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>>171593517
Remind me to bother Pixie about it when she's here again.
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>>171593358
>Is Inara any good?
Oh Anon...
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>>171593689
What If she's already here?
I won't be surprised If she's a fujoshit and actually wants chink and amigo to fuck and marry.
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>>171593881
>tfw still salty about how the fujos got Fags on Skates best animation instead of Mob Psycho
Really grinds my gears. Fujoshits run everything.
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>>171593881
What if YOU are Pixie?
Do it, Pixie! Do it!
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>Thinking that Jewbear's self-insert will ever fuck, marry, or at least kiss a man
That would only happen if he will get paid a certain amount of shekels and boosters, or If he's actually a closet case.
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>>171593635
>>171593837
>tfw you've actually got Inara to lvl 10 already and you kinda like her
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>>171594635
>jewbear's self-insert
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>>171594839
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>>171594978
DELET
THIS
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>>171594635
Entire Hi-rez is a closet case, Anon.
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>>171595454
PrettyHair deserves better.
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>>171581438
>>171581594
MORE

>>171592987
Not with his Hipfire lego, unless you land your nade launcher.
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>>171532829
That's because you're shit at your own's company games and you are a casual piece of shit, Pixie. Not because she has been gutted. Maeve is fine now, she used to be broken and that is an objective fact.
also
>T___T
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>>171595637
>T___T
That's how you know it's Pixie.
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>>171595637
>she used to be broken and that is an objective fact
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>>171595454
>Hi-rez is full of gays and lesbians
I'm not surprised at all.
Also, manlet's smile is really fucking creepy. He looks like He is planning how to kidnap Prettyhair and take him to his sex dungeon/basement.
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>>171595514
PrettyHair deserves exactly this.
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>>171595821
I miss Graphanon
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>>171536395
The game is well balanced in my opinion and people are exagerating.
Yes, there are character that do too much: Makoa, Drogoz. But the frontline and healer are fine. Healer are the most balanced character in this game along with frontline.

Skye is pointless and need a complete rework, Maeve is now fine and is perfectly balanced if you git gud with her, Evie is fine, Buck is fine, Lex is pretty much fine too. The damage champions are really the cheapest tought..
Viktor/Tyra.. i will never not rage from being killed by them. It's so.. so cheap. No skill. Just.. spray? How is it acceptable in a game like this to have simple character like viktor? Tyra is way better than him "Gameplay wise" because she's much more complex, but honestly viktor is cheap and cheap as fuck. Fuck him.

Otherwise, i think it's just the OWbaby that don't want to git gud who says that this game is REALLY unbalanced because you know what? I'm pretty good. Mal damba is great against everyone. Grover is great against everyone.
Drogoz, Androxus, Makoa however does ways too much and i just hate that Makoa can just move you behind him by turning his mouse, he shouldn't be able to.
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>>171594635
>Jewbear's self-insert
He may be one, but he definitely went better characterwise than his creator intended.
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>>171595821
Yes, truly the winrate matters in SUCH A TEAM HEAVY GAMES! You can't just "Carry a team" in Paladins you know right? Maeve was broken. Her combo was broken. SHE WAS WAY TOO FAST AND EVEN MORE WITH HER ABILITY. AND SHE COULD SAFELY HEAL HERSELF, RESET HER COOLDOWN. Do you really think it's not broken?

Maevefags like you will not understand what games balance means, it's always the "Fast, Agile Character" player who are the first to complain when their character get nerfed for good reasons, and that's because those character attract kid the most.
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>>171596145
>Mal damba is great against everyone. Grover is great against everyone.
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>171535545
>>171595637
>bullying /ourgirl/ Pixie

Uninstall yourselves from this thread.
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>>171596145
>m-muh Overwatch
Why did you bring this up out of nowhere? You have issue. And for the record, Overwatch as shitty as the meta is right now is much more balanced as a whole because Roadhog is really the only bullshit character. Deaths never feel cheap. There's like 6 characters in Paladins that are bullshit and getting killed by them feels like bullshit. I love both games for different reasons but don't try to play off Paladins' lack of balance as "w-well Overwatch players are just bad!"
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>>171596442
Why? I'm pretty good with mal damba, i've reached a point where i can be pretty much annoying. Even tought i can't beat frontliners because obviously he don't do enough damage, i can seriously damage them and get out safely. Most flankers are not really a problems.
Vine & Slithers are some pretty good ability that you can build your loadout around but i focused more on self sustain myself.

The only champions i really have a problems with is Skye but that's because she can shoot faster than i can and that if i miss one axe (or snake) only i'm dead. Just git gud.
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>>171596218
But everything is what he intended it to be
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>>171596380
>winrate doesn't reflect balance
How can you be so delusional?
If Maeve was really that much better than the other characters then Maeves would win more games than they'd lose.

I want up to date graphs.
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What's Maeve's best legendary? I wanna git gud with her but I only have Artful Dodger which seems bad compared to Rogue's Gambit or Cat Burglar
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>>171596719
>Deaths never feel cheap.
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>>171596872
>Artful Dodger seems bad compared to Cat Burglar
Cat Burglar is useless.
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>>171596856
I think periods right after a champion release are a bit inaccurate since everyone will instalock it and bring Winrate closer to 50%. I wish they didn't nerf her as hard as they did, especially prowl movespeed.
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>>171596719
>walk a good ten~15 seconds to get from spawn to the fight-end of the map
>one-shotted by Widow/Hanzo in.2 attoseconds because I dared peek one pixel out of cover
Yes, balanced. That's one way of putting it.
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>>171596856
Winrate doesn't mean much if you balance for the highest level of play. Which is not an argument in this case because Maeve is hot trash for anything other than stomping noobs
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>>171596758
The only supports who are "great against everyone" are grohk and pip.
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>play support
>for some reason hate Ying and never touch her
>get pretty good with all other supports
>try out Ying again
>that damage
>that healing
>that escape
holy shit how is it fair to other supports
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>>171596719
Who are those bullshit character? Because i never felt once cheated by anyone else other than Tyra, Pre nerf maeve, Viktor in my whole gameplay.

>>171596691
> Whiteknighting so much an hi rez employee
jesus christ you're so easy to impress, talk strong behind hi rez back "Yeah they suck fuck them and their games" but when they give out codes or comes suddenly everyone start sucking their dick. YOU uninstall yourself from the thread.

>>171596856
She deserved the nerf. The winrate doesn't reflect balance in the case of Maeve. She had ways too much ability in her that could be quickly reset.
Oh god the time where pounce did 1000 damage.. Jesus.
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>>171596872
artful dodger.

cat burglar sounds good on paper but it doesn't help your boxing, it just lets you go a few new routes (jumping to the top of the staircase from the opposite side of the point).

rogue's gambit is only really good when the enemy team is retarded. Otherwise you might as well just have artful dodger so you don't straight up lose every 1v1 against players that can aim.
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>>171597095
>killed by Hanzo or Widow
>ever
So the issue is you're terrible and playing in Silver?
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>>171596719
Lots of retards constantly bring up Overwatch when they're defending Paladins, it's really fucking annoying. It happens when people bring up game imbalances like we see here, people even try to defend the chest chest shit we're getting with crap like "it's better than overwatch!!1". Tired of people just accepting shit simply because it isn't blizzard's shit
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>>171596691
>whiteknighting for a whore just because she posts on your vietnamese flipbook discussion forum
refer to previous picture
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>>171597015
So which one?
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>>171597275
Because it's the closest game we can compare the situation with. I don't think bringing overwatch means you have a hateboner for Blizzard or Paladins everytime, but i think it's a legitimate ways to discuss balance and "How should we do this and this? How did they executed this specific ability in this specific game?".
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>>171597213
I only play quickplay/arcade because people take shit way too seriously. Like, frothing at the mouth seriously.
I'll not deny I'm probably on the lower end of the skill ladder. Mostly play Rein/Torb/Junkrat/S76, so that probably explains things.
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>>171597173
>The winrate doesn't reflect balance in the case of Maeve. She had ways too much ability in her that could be quickly reset.
Please explain this shit. How did her amazing overpowered abilities not help her win games while still being overpowered?
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>>171597173
>who are these bullshit characters?
Viktor, Tyra, Drogoz, Makoa, Androxus
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>>171596798
But did he intend /palgay/ wanting Fernando and Chink to marry?
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>>171597173
First of all, you're being retarded with monolithic factionalism.

Second of all, Hi-rez does suck overall but that doesn't preclude me from liking individual employees.

Third, Pixie is in QA so she isn't to blame for the really retarded shit drybear has forced into the game.

get memed on kid
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Damn it's hard to build Maeve, none of her cards seem very good. Any pointers or tried-and-true builds?
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>>171597620
Yeah, i've mentioned them tought. Viktor and Tyra are cheap gameplay and Drogoz Makoa and Androxus got ways too much thing going on for them. Anyhow, they should be balanced carefully, not dumb balance like removing CC immunity for makoa ultimate.
>>171597563
You know why i talked about "carrying" in this game? Because you can't as i said. This game is heavily TEAM DEPENDANT and even if a character is OP, then you won't get much done outside of a few kills because your team doesn't get kill which means you will always be against a tight team. Maeve was always weak against a tight team, but her 1v1/1v2 potential was wayys too overpowered. Her combo did too much damage and you couldn't react in time, that's what i complain about. Also her speed. Ways too much.
>>171597841
pic related, it's you faggot.
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>>171597841
literally do the opposite of this
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>>171597161
she's the main character along with androxus so she needs to be broken and have an overloaded kit. Like Androxus.
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H-hey guys don't forget about this.
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>>171598314
>implying it's not possible carrying games
Yeah nah good Androxus, Evie can win the game by themselves.
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>>171598570
i'm still upset
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>>171598314
>maeve can fight two people because she's way overpowered
>her team can now fight 4v3, 5v3 after she's done killing
>heavily team dependant
>can't carry
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>>171598417
But Andy at least requires some skill to not be dead weight.
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>>171599024
>skill
>hitscan weapon
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>>171598718
it literally depends on the members of both teams. sure you can shitstomp some retards who don't know what end of a gun bullets come out of but if there are one or two competent players then even a professional androxus won't be able to win the game without help from his team
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>>171568686
Its visually less pleasing but from a gameplay stand point I'd say its feels much better
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>>171598570
I don't mind 200 crystals, but the random shit in the chest still makes me pissed.
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>>171597679
>all women seem to be not very fond of Fernando
>most men compliment him, call him 'pretty guy' and similar stuff
I wonder.
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>>171599794
I wonder if we are, eventually, get a little girl squire that loves Fernando and makes him uncomfortable.
She could have a knight like design like him.
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>>171600139
GET DRYCUNT ON THE FUCKING PHONE
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>>171593236
Next Halloween?
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Wedding skins for chink and amigo when?
Chink in a dress and Amigo in a suit when Jewbear?
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>>171600139
I like the idea, but I don't like the inevitable comments of shitters immediately comparing her to that chick that repairs Reinhardt armor in OW or something like that.
Nevertheless, little human gremlin following Fernando everywhere and trying to become a knight would be adorable.
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>>171595821
>Meave v Meave games
K
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>>171587667
white castle instead of burger king...come on
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>>171599461
Well if both teams are competent it becomes more of a pulling your own weight and teamplay thing but it still exists. But even consistently doing double kills as a flanker would be considered carrying. And if we're talking about casual games seen one flanker being as useful as four people of the enemy team combined.
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>>171600345
Right after wedding skins for Tyra and Snek Man.
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>>171600139
Seris could be the one that has a crush on him.
She's all dark and edgy but around Nando she gets all girly and soft like a wet noodle.
But Nando doesn't care about her because He already got a wife(male) so he thinks she just has a fever.
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>>171600345
im amazed they didn't capitalize on best boy during valentines with a tuxedo or something similar
money would be falling from the sky
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>>171599474
Lmao
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>>171600139
we're getting a fairy, with maeve and her we have too many little girls.
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>>171595821
>>171600465

What he said. Every game had maeve on both sides, so it will be 50% no matter what
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>>171600650
>Seris attempting to seduce Fernando by using old pick-up lines like 'is it getting hot in here or is that you?'
>Fernando answering 'It surely must be me, my lady, I'll take my leave immediately, as to not cause you distress by overheating'
>Sha_Lin_laughing_in_the_background.wav
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>>171598413
>>171598413
>literally do the opposite of this

First of all, you're absolutely correct with monolithic factionalism.

Second of all, Hi-rez does suck overall and that precludes me from liking individual employees.

Third, even though Pixie is in QA so she is still to blame for the really retarded shit drybear has forced into the game.

dont get memed on kid
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>>171601059
sooo?
only 2. Plus, who said fairy was a little girl? we only know "her" or "him" by a datamine.

more female characters are always nice imo
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>>171601094
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>>171601171
>it could be 'him'
NO
I WANT A FAIRY GIRL
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>>171601171
What if fairy was trans?
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How many shekels do I have to pay Jewbear for a Sha lin and Fernando happy ending?
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How is Lex guys? Does he suck or OP?
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>>171601573
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>>171601659
Nerf Death Hastens and he'll be pretty balanced
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>>171601659
Fix shields so they can actually counter him as intended and we're good.
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>>171601619
Many, many shekels, Anon. But it's worth its price.
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They should rename him to the angry molesting tree desu mate.
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>>171602102
Personal shields are ignored
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>>171602229
>>171601619
Can you stop your anti semitism
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I don't like fighting Inara
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>>171602664
Sorry. Won't happen again.
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>>171602559
I didn't mean Torvald's or Ruckus' shield, I'm concerned about other tanks, since stuff seems to go through them all the time.
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>>171601059
>too many little girls
>too many
>little girls

I can't seem to parse this sentence, what did you mean by this?
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>>171601059
Spotted the feminist.
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>>171602878
Don't walk or be thrown backwards and the shield hitboxes work fine.
:^)
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>>171602664
How many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one. It's a pretty simple task.
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>>171603141
STOP YOUR ANTISEMITISM, GO BACK TO POL FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171603141
for the real punchline: you need to pay shekels
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>>171603101
This is both not funny and not true, Drybear.
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>>171602705
Me too, her fighting abilities are just so aSTONishing.
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>>171605306
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>>171605769
retard
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>>171605769
I would swap dd and supp.
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>>171605306
That's rough.
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>>171598314
>ideology that flanks & damage are the "carry" classes
>IE: they're the only ones who can have a big impact in a game
>these same people with this mindset complain when someone doesnt go healer/tank
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How the fuck does Buck's F work?
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>>171607359
Buck soars through the air and instantly kills anyone who is unfortunate enough to be within a mile of his landing point
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>>171607359
All you need to know is that buck is here to FUCK
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>>171607486
More like sometimes it feels like I'm playing cs surf map and other times he farts.
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>>171606036
Nice.
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>people writing guides on playing resonance Ying that consist of the old tactic of shattering and spawning your clones back immediately with rewind and dimensional link and them shattering again
But I thought that the whole point of resonance is to not shattering but still getting damage? I'm confused.Why would you even need resonance here, you are not benefitting from it in any way.
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>>171608721
Yeah, that's the idiot way. Grab the one that increase distance that you can spawn in and decrease CD when illusions are destroyed and use them as cover and landmines. You're not going to be a damage with it though since 500 damage every few seconds isn't alot of DPS like Drogoz is but you will clear deployables fairly easily if they keep shooting the illusions.
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I don't get dimensional link for Ying.
You will put your illusions, most of the time, very close to the point to heal you. What the point of teleporting on them?
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>>171609479
Panic jukes oh god where is my team
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>>171609479
I like to put them somewhere where they can still heal everyone, but can also provide a faster travel to some safe spot, like on the bridges on fish market, while I am fighting on the point.
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>>171610153
change that to poppy jumping on the furthest enemy's face and we have quality meme on our hands
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>>171609479
>get dived by a flanker
>press F to go to some random place that hopefully is in less danger
>they chase after it
>press F again
>repeat until they give up or you kill them

>ALTERNATIVELY: Press ult from spawn. Press dimensional link to instantly teleport to the payload. I haven't tried this I don't actually know if it works.
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>>171610274
It doesn't work in the spawn room proper.
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>>171610274
You have to get out of the spawn, but it works. You might land in the middle of some deep shit tho, since it spawns next to your teammates.
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>>171610153
Saved just in case someone asks about how to bk.
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>>171611173
Although then they'll be asking how you got bombs stuck to someone without clicking the left mouse button.
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>>171599557
Yep. If it was just Star Slayer and Helios, it'd be fine by me, but I'm not spending that much to try to get the skin I want. I'll probably buy one and end up with the voice pack.
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>>171610153
Shouldn't RMB and LMB be switched?
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>>171591595
>start the game
>play a bit
>get some radiant chests
>open them
>after a while get a rare, MVP pose
>the only difference is pip smiling and his goggles on his eyes
There really isn't a reason to want any of this shit is there.
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>>171612051
Some of the taunts are pretty good, but other than that it's only if you like blue recolors.
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>>171611173
>>171611321
>>171611926
On the one hand, it should be corrected for accuracy. On the other other hand, it's just a meme.
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>>171524059
CUTE
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I don't know why people are complaining about Maeve being nerfed, I just started playing not long ago and I kick ass with her, she honestly still seems like she could be nerfed more and still be viable. One of the easiest characters to play IMO.

In other words gut gud
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>>171610153
>>171611173
>>171611926
>>171611321
>>171612353
>"fixed"
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Is Bomb King the worst damage dealer in the game?

He should be good but every single time I have a Bomb King on my team he's the lowest damage on the team, even lower than Fernandos and Torvalds.
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Who are your most disliked characters? Doesn't have to be that they're OP, just that you don't like them.
For me:

>Skye
>Tyra
>Viktor

Tyra and Viktor are low skill level characters who do too much damage. They're on every team I see. I have played both and every time I get top damage and elims without fail.
Skye is just annoying, don't really think she's OP
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>>171613965
People usually just don't do good with him is all. I've been practicing with him more lately and often rival Tyras and Viktors for top damage
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>>171613965
Bomb King is pretty unintuitive so most new Bomb King players are clueless on how to play him. I still can't hit anything.

He's REALLY fun and worth the investment though. He's best played as a flanker on maps with lots of airspace.
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>>171614017

>Drogoz
>Skye

Drogoz is OP right now with the amount of damage he does, the spit, his salvo and annoying as fuck ult; Skye because I dislike stealth as a mechanic, I'm ok with Sha lin because it mostly serves as an escape and doesn't last long, the ULT is still annoying but it isn't available all the time.
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Does anyone here speak subhuman?
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>>171615437
Tyra: nice
Tyra: help, team, I used everything[??]
Tyra: help, team, can't go on like this
Tyra: fuck
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>>171615536
Funny. Especially considering that useless fuck spent the whole game attacking Fernando and ghost Grohk.
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>>171615437
>>171615536
Well, on the bright side he actually tried talking to the team. Communication is important.
The problem is the rest of the team either couldn't understand him or weren't in the mood to talk.
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>>171615831
You gotta sympathize with him, though.
He's only on NA(presumably) because our server is an unstable piece of garbage.
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>>171616012
so, like NA's.
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>>171614017
>ruckus
>barik
>viktor
>kinessa

all need to be disabled until they get major overhauls that make them fun.
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>>171616090
BR is worse, trust me.
The shit you have while Hi-Rez' servers are getting DDoS'd is what we have while the servers are 'stable'.
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>>171616012
Last time I was on BR server (admittedly like, last week), it seemed fairly stable. A bit higher ping since I was NA based, but...
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>>171616327
Oh, they can be stable sometimes, alright

when the planets align during a blue blood moon.
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>>171616443
Must have been in alignment, then. Worst problem I had was maybe a solid three seconds of lag followed by rubber-banding back to where things were supposed to be, which only happened once out of six matches or so. Ping was in the 115~130 range, so it wasn't unbearable.
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>>171614017
>Ying, now every support has to heal as much as her to keep up (Mal'damba) or you're an "off-support" (the rest)
>Skye
>Ruckus (on your team: tries to solo tank and dies immediately. On the enemy team: literally unstoppable)
>Drogoz (ult should be reworked so that he has -50% turn speed but gains +70% damage reduction with a reduced charge time)
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>>171616576
Then teach me your ways, whenever I try to play on BR myself only 1/3 matches work, the others being laggy or just straight up closing, just early I had a match not even start at all.
one guy kept loading and I had to restart my game to queue again.
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>>171616781
Have a landline connection, more than minimum specs, and good fortune? I dunno what to tell you, man.
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>>171616901
Well, it aint my internet nor my computer, everything's fine on NA, but not on BR...

I can only deduce that the common brazilian's internet and PC are shit, and these two horsemen of the apocalypse end up crashing the match for whatever reason, game's free, after all.
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>Play Makoa
>Entire team is snipers and flankers
>Scream at me for not keeping the point controlled the entire match alone
>Putting down my shield constantly with half shell
>Because I'm not getting on all fours and assuming the fuck me position they think I'm only doing damage and not shielding
>Complain that I lost them the game for "not doing my job"

Where's the kill everyone on my team button in this game?
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>>171617821
You know you tried your best Anon and that's all that matters
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>>171614017
>Maeve
>Kinessa
I can somewhat deal with everyone else but those two always get me for some reason.
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>>171615324
I didn't even think of using his F like that, holy shit.
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>>171615437
>playing Grohk
>Torvald says "healer [monkey speak]"
>reply "english"
>silence
BRs getting their own servers when? You have to pick a UI language, why not just sort them into a different server if they don't speak the fucking language?
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>>171596691
They're not wrong lul
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>>171614017
Drogoz. Fast as a flank, does massive damage and has an ult that deletes anyone it hits.

Kinessa- Either useless or cancerous with no in between.
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>>171618620
I don't know why the "dragon" gets so much easy free damage with his spit bomb
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>>171608721
Because you're using rewind 1 they have very little HP. Normally if they die mid-shatter, they won't explode. Resonance lets them explode regardless if they die. The double shatter is in case you need burst damage.
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>>171598159
It all depends on your playstyle, what works for me is:
Shred 4
On Edge 3
Scamper 2
Predation 2
Cut and Run 1
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>>171568686
Yeah but who wants to pay $40 for horrendous map design, poor character design and everyone having some form of instakill
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>>171621236
lol
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>>171613196
Her style before was one of a super fast flank, her having a cat-like behavior is even something to put on it. Everybody was asking for a nerf to her damage, which was unfair sometimes, not her speed. Now she's not a fun champion to play anymore but we still have to play with her because she's still too op.
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>>171621236
Not me, thankfully the Founder's Pack only costs $20.
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>>171621709
Oy fucking vey. It was 10 bucks at one point, so if you really want it, just wait for another steam sale.
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How to get good as Evie?
Despite doing most damage as her my team still looses. Am I doing something wrong?
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>>171622687
Are you flanking?
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>>171616224
It isn't that bad, I only DC'd twice today
2/7 matches, terrível
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>>171614017
Are you me? I highly agree with those 3 being annoying as fuck.

To add to that list:
>Skye (invisibility is hard to balance, she needs a rework)
>Tyra (shits out damage with no skill required)
>Viktor (shits out damage with no skill required)
>Kinessa (sniper cancer, either have 1 on your team that sucks or have one on the enemy side thats a god making the game miserable)
>Sha Lin (Planted is pure bullshit & does WAY too much damage, also his Impaler Arrow will stun you most of the time even when you are not against a wall)
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>>171623364
>Viktor (shits out damage with no skill required)
What's wrong, don't like hearing "Barrage Incoming" and realising you've lost the point unless you're all super mobile?
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>>171622942
Yeah, and I am also using blink legendary to go back out of combat if possible. Maybe the issue is the connection, I often have around 160 on EU. Would playing with around 100 mak a big difference as her?
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>>171624930
My point is if you're doing your job then losing is probably not your fault.
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>>171622687
you have to carry even harder
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>>171607692
Wario farts make you go far though.
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will BK ever be as good as the lizard?
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>>171629152
only if BK gets a card that reduces the CD of grumpy bomb by 2/3/insert high number here seconds for every person that's stunned by it
and when people learn to aim his stickies
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>>171629443
That wouldnt do much. With the right build you can already toss it very frequently.
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Our guy
https://clips.twitch
.tv/ColdbloodedRichAxeBleedPurple
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>>171629642
>I just Paladins hitboxed the shit out of that Kinessa
Holy shit. I can't breathe. Someone send help.
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>>171629642
>calls reddit a bunch of whiners
>makes fun of the hitboxes
>nice hair

Based.
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>>171630059
>nice hair

t. Raynday
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>>171629642
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>>171629642
it only works like that because your hitbox doesn't change while you're stunned.
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>>171630547
>hitbox doesn't change while you're stunned
Really? No wonder it wasn't the easy headshot I thought it would be.
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>>171630547

that's fucking retarded but I can see lo rez doing that
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>>171631382
I'm just assuming so, I play a lot of Sha Lin and do those kinds of shots all the time. It's the most plausible explanation, because hitboxes aren't (usually) that fucked.
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>>171615324
>pre nerf poppy bomb
nothing better than playing on the beach stage and BTFO the enemy team into the ocean with a single poppy bomb
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>>171631943
that webm is just regular accelerant.

>tfw hi-rez hates fun and we won't ever have Jolt again
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>>171632378
>hirez gimping high mobility high skill cap characters with fun, unorthodox abilities
>hirez adding a champion that literally aims his guns for you

jesus christ
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>>171523670
So patch today or next week?
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>>171632378
>fun
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>>171633767
>Buff his damage
>TOO STRONG
>Can CC his ult

Why didn't they just nerf his damage? These guys are fucking stupid.
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>>171633863
why didn't they just leave his ult alone and instead nerf his hook so it has a small 0.5second wind-up/charge at the start?
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>>171633863
>can just be CC'd into the ground now

Whats the point of his ULT now? To let the enemies charge their ults by shooting a defenseless damage sponge?

>>171634000
Or they could just make it a projectile...like how a hook should be.
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>>171633863
His ult's pretty funny at times.
>game ends
>we were running the payload through fishmarkets
>at the 2nd corner
>opponent BK ults
>plops off the overhead wood path and BTFO's our entire team
Watching the replay was hilarious.
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>>171634635
>game ends
tfw you forget to remove stuff after rewriting the post
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>>171615437
It's Brazilin Portuguese, your bitch.
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>>171634939
to-may-to
to-mah-to
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>>171634939
It's monkey language you brazillian ape. Stay on your own servers!
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Guys i need help with a Lex build. So far i'm going for a sustain damage build because i'd rather play him like a damage than flanker.

So far i have-

Card 1:Fortitude 1250es Heal for X health over in pursuit's duration
Card 2:Hardiness 500es Gain % damage reduction during in pursuit
Card 3:Justice Served 5000es Killing your target refills % of max health
Card 4:Well Oiled 500es Reload faster

What should my 5th card be? i need feedback
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>haven't played in a week

Can't wait for tests and papers to have a temporary break so I can play a few matches. I didn't think I'd come to like Paladins as much as I have
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>>171637604
>I didn't think I'd come to like Paladins as much as I have
I feel like this is the common story with Paladins. Because Overwatch is more immediately fun because you can press Q and get a free triple kill but the lack of those ridiculous ults makes Paladins more fun in the long run. . . well for me at least.
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>>171600465
>>171601075
You are retarded. Her winrate is slightly under 50% throughout most of the graph.
If you ignored matches where there's a Maeve on both teams it would move the line further away from 50%, i.e. even lower.
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Kinessa is such a useless character and the people who play her are cancer. It's basically like playing with a 4 person team.

I don't think I've ever played with a Kinessa who contributed anything to the team. They are living in their own world.

How do we meme Kinessa into getting deleted?
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But Kinessa a cute!
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Also, can I have a match where I'm not the hard carry? that would be great.
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Guys i need help. Do i spend $30 on a porn subscription or on Paladins?
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>>171635467
Take out the heal during In pursuit skill, you only heal for 1 sec. Get the lifesteal againest marked targets instead and you will never lose provided you can keep chaining the kills.
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>>171643034
>porn subscription
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>>171643034

>porn subscription
>costanza.jpg

You're either 14 or 60.
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>>171643034
>subscribing to porn
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>>171643064
>>171643715
23 actually but i guess i'll just use the money on some colossal chests
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Sha can be fun.
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>>171645124
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>>171641859
>where I'm not the hard carry
Did. . . Did you not know about competitive?
How are you surprised about carrying in casual?
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>>171645506
>competitive
All I've heard here is that competitive is not worth playing at all, ever.
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>>171645694
I think it's pretty good but unless you play on populated hours, you'll be waiting forever. It's just nice to play with people who actually communicate and want to win, I reckon.
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>>171643034
Use those 30$ to commision Paladins porn.
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>getting accused of hacking
>by another Maeve
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>Pick Fernando
>Enemy team has a Torvald

Might as well just AFK at that point, you've 100% lost the match guaranteed. What kind of shitty design is this where you have hard counters in a game where you can't see your opponents picks or change your picks during the match at all?
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>>171647018
Pick scorch, your best flanknando loadout and kill all his teammates, ignoring him till he's all alone. What he's gonna do to you? Tickle your 5k hp away with his puny gauntlet?
Or you can, you know, just don't use your shield so much, simply wait to pull it out till he's done recharging.
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>>171645124
>Viktor
Holy shit I am dying
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>>171647505
This.
If you're using shield all the time as nando you're doing it wrong desu
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>>171647869
shit, meant for >>171647305
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>>171632776
I want the new patch on my desk... the... 69th... hour... 420 days from now.
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>>171647018
>What kind of shitty design is this where you have hard counters in a game where you can't see your opponents picks or change your picks during the match at all?
This is exactly why we have loadouts and items. You can't change your champion, but you can equip him well enough to stand a chance anyway.
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>>171647018
>Torvald being a counter to Fernando
>Torvald being a counter to anyone
Torvald is a nuisance at best, and the only thing he truly counters are squishy flankers that are retarded enough to come to his range.
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>>171647305

>Flanknando
>Being off the point for even a second as Fernando
>Sha Lin: OMG STUPID FRONTLINER GET ON THE POINT FUCK THIS I FEED

Must be nice to have teammates that aren't trash.
>>
>get in game
>everyones things are lit up
>loading screen
>keeps loading
>still loading
>doesn't stop loading
>good 2+ minutes have gone by now
>still loading
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>>171648287
>tfw items are hard counters
>Wrecker renders Torvald basically useless
>Caut renders healers basically useless
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>>171528461
>lego
reddit, go back and stay back
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Do you guys think it's a waste using immortal to counter dragon punch?
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>>171649216
nah
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>>171649216
Are you solo tank? If yes then no it isn't a waste
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OB46 today???
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>>171648648
>useless
Nah, you still keep your utility. Torvald still has his bubbles and silence, and supports can frag, Snek can still stun and deal decent damage, Ying can detonate her illusions, Grover can turn into a sniper and Grohk and Pip still deal a shitton of damage.
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>>171649216
Depends. I would rather save all my teammates from Barrage or Hexa fire and then got punched than have them all die and prolong my Nando's life for 4 seconds and then die in 1v5.
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>>171632743
I agree. Bomb King is one of the most original character this game's has.
You can play him in so many ways, you can flank, you can spam, a noob will play completely differently than a pro with bomb king, and of course his gameplay is fun and very dynamic with the poppy. Honestly, there should be a bomb king in Overwatch. Bomb King Omnic.
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>>171649496
I fucking wish.
But probably not.
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Is Grohk's ult the worst ult in the game? How the hell am I supposed to use this without immediately getting deleted?
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>>171650496
>Bomb King Omnic
Bombnic

Also Junkrat is literally Bomb King without the Sticky Bombs. That's as close as they're gonna get.
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>>171651686
I use it to solo ult a problem flanker most times, really funny seeing a maeve or sky try to run away during it. Otherwise use it to keep your teammates topped off while behind your frontline
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>>171651762
Ah yes. No.
The only thing Junkrat has in common with Bomb King is the fact that they're explosive related. That's it.
Poppy bomb is close to his mine, but even then, it doesn't do any damage, only knockback, and poppy bomb is way more powerful in knockback.
Junkrat can't stack bomb on someone, they explode on contact, they bounce. He also doesn't have Grumpy bomb.
He got rip tire sooo yeah that's literally King Bomb but better because it has way better control. Still, i'd like another explosive based character and bomb king is amazing!
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>>171652320
>slight differences = totally different
They both launch small explosives (one bounces while the other sticks), they both have a bomb that can knock people away or propel themselves up, they both have a stun (one is AoE, the other is single target) and their ults are exactly the same. I'm not saying "hurr bomb king copied junkrat" I'm just saying Overwatch literally already has a Bomb King.
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>>171652519
> they both have a stun
Junkrat trap is a root not a stun
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>>171652701
You're right. I was too specific. They both have an immobilize skill, but Bomb King's is AoE while Junk's is a trap.
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>pick character
>kicked from the game
>lol wait 5 minutes deserter
wut?
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>>171651686
I got some ult ideas for grohk, his ult really are too plain/boring IMO
>Grohk summon a thunder for each teammates that boost their damage by 15% for 6 seconds
>Grohk summons a thunderstorm that covers the entire map, damaging anyone that's not under a roof for 200 dmg every second for 5 second (maybe he does a rain dance while doing this)
or maybe
>grohk raise every dead teammates as a ghosts for 5 seconds with extra damage before being dead again inb4 mercy
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>>171654801
>grohk ultimate
>passive
>teammates who die near grohk receive a ghost walk effect and their death is delayed by 4 seconds but they are still able attack and use abilities
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>>171655187
>use life steal
>survive, because you got 12 hp again
that would be fun, if it were like that
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>>171655279
You don't escape death, you just die 4 seconds later.
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>>171655334
that sucks
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>>171655279
Yeah, that could work too
Being dead again is just a hassel, maybe you actually get revived but with 5% health or something
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>>171654801
>maybe he does a rain dance while doing this
I'm all in for a dancing Grohk.
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>>171655535
>>171655392
>>171655334
>>171655279
>>171655187
>>171654801
Is Grohk's best legendary the one where he automatically ghost walks instead of dying?
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>>171656008
I don't know if it's the best one because I don't play him but it's certainly annoying as fuck to play against.
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SUPER SECRET INARA TECHNIQUE:
>press q and place the wall in front of you
>press e and wait until she is ready to throw the spear
>press q again
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>>171656008
Maelstrom is what everyone is talking about these days. Keeping a permanent, team wide slow up while doing moderate damage is pretty retarded for a support.
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>>171656354
desu totemic ward is the best

CC immunity is extremely underrated, plus its 20% more healing, you can actually facetank a ton of things with it.

Not to mention you can cuck a lot of ults on the point, like damba, inara, torvald silences and ults especially
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>>171656463
CC totem is great if you are fighting Makoa. Zero hooks.
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>>171656463
>>171656354
Will keep in mind. I'm starting to really like Grohk but the only legendary I have for him is the one where he ghost walks instead of dying, and I don't have that much essence to spare right now.
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>>171656260
Damn, that's pretty nifty. Though you are kind of throwing it blindly, unless you destroy your wall earlier.
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>>171656260
What does it do exactly?
It cancel her ultimate, or...?
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>>171656694
use it practically to block dragon punchs from your tank

Also if using totemic ward vs torvald, he becomes literally useless against you 1v1, he cant outdamage the healing or silence you

>>171656883
wall is between you and enemy, he drops the wall just as the spear is coming so they dont see it coming, despite the YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE broadcasted on the speakerphones in the arena
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>>171656260
Isn't this exactly what they said to do during her reveal?
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>top damage on team
>as inara
>every time

Just how bad are you people?
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>>171656883
You become less vulberable while casting it, since the animation is so long.
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>>171657802
Post the build/itemization.
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>>171657802
yeah she can be good if you have her epic cards and her must buy legendary
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>>171523670
D E D G A E M
E
D

G
A
E
M
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no patch until tomorrow maybe. even deder game
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>>171656670
Also if you're playing Frog Isle/Fish Market against a Torvald and/or Bomb King.
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>>171657910
>>171658437

Basic loadout and leg
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>>171646548
What kind of porn can you even get for $30?
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Ok so I've been playing this game for 3 days and bought the founders pack.

QUESTIONS;

1) Most influential role that wins matches?

2) Least useful role?

3) Best pub stomp solo queue heroes?

4) Personal favorite heroes and why?

5) Personal advice from your experiences with the game you'd like to pass on to a newbie?
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>>171661546
>bought the founders pack
my condolences
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>>171661546
>1) Most influential role that wins matches?
FL or Damage
>2) Least useful role?
In the current meta, Flank
>3) Best pub stomp solo queue heroes?
Drogoz, Cassie
>4) Personal favorite heroes and why?
Makoa, Barik and Ying. I like FL and support.
>5) Personal advice from your experiences with the game you'd like to pass on to a newbie?
At the beginning of the round, check legendaries, loadouts, etc. Don't just instantly buy wrecker if you see they have a tank or something.
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>>171662075

I'm ok with spending 15 bucks to not have to unlock all the heroes and future heroes, it's a pretty solid deal. Hell I wasted 60 bucks on Overwatch and BB so there is no way I'd have nearly that level of regret.

>>171662091

Replace Barik with Torvald and those are my 3 favorites so far. Ying seems kind of retarded, is she a big draft pick?
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>>171643034
Commission Paladins porn
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>>171662308
i was ok with it too until the essence update came
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>>171661546
Welcome, redditor.
On 4chan a single new line when posting is enough to create a new line in your post.
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>>171650172
Snek also still has a giant Fear No Evil
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>>171662308
>Ying seems kind of retarded
Ying is cute!

But her advantage is that she still has a lot of heals. She can heal the rest of her team all at once over a distance, which is useful.
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>>171652519
>slight difference

Poppy bomb adds such a different dimension to how BK plays versus Junkrat. The ability to knock people off the point/map and soar magestically through the air makes him feel quite different
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>>171662434

I've been posting since 2007 and I've always found spacing out my shit for questions has always gotten answers easier. Maybe you should go upvote a suicide letter about how you love shilling reddit and rope yourself faggot.

>>171662515

What other healer should I learn besides Ying? All of them feel like mages with extra healing not dedicated healers.
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>>171662672
>Maybe you should go upvote a suicide letter about how you love shilling reddit and rope yourself faggot.
That's a pretty decent attempt at blending in. Keep up.
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>>171662672
Mal Damba
Dedicated healers like Mercy are for gaybois and Hirez has no intention of adding them.
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>>171662431
>bought founders pack to skip grinding
>"hey guys we will introduce even more grinding and you can't skip it with the founder pack XD"
can't wait for the obligatory card stat upgrades that Drybear wanted to add
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>>171662672
Grohk and Mal'damba
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>>171662870

Yeah I'll probably learn Ying, Mal, and Grohk. Mal has some insanely fun damage output and I love his little zone poison bomb.
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>>171610153
The last panel is called Boxing build, anon.
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>>171661464
3 sketches of Maeve jerking off her horsefuta cock, or two and a little of her fucking your furry OC.
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>>171663297
>Maeve
That's not how you spell Skye
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>>171661464
At least 2 drawings of Sha lin and Fernando fucking like rabbits, or 3 pin ups.
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>>171663297
>>171663348
>>171663467
awful taste.
Nando fucking Ying is god tier taste
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>>171661546
1) Front Line that pushes the front line farther or a really good DMG.
2) Flank. Especially if more than 1
3) Barik, Cassie
4) Grover and Pip
5) Don't go in panic mode, ignore the chaos, concentrate.
Don't waste your Essence, cards matter and you have no idea what is good for now.
Pick for team.
And most importantly - do not go in alone unless extending overtime for last point, always always always try to group up, do proper resets
also don't stand on OBJ like a retard - push, get to their spawn, get them off their horses ASAP
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>>171663490
>awful taste.
I just don't want fags putting horse cocks on Maeve. That's why we have Skye.
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>>171663490
>Ying and Nando
Worst taste.
Ying is just a slut pretending to be pure, look at her clothes, a pure girl would never dress like that.
Nando is a pure boy.
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>>171663467
I almost want to pay for this.
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>>171663581
>futa maeve
Why would anyone be so stupid?
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>>171661546
>1) Most influential role that wins matches?
Damage, because when they die everyone dies.
>2) Least useful role?
Flank.
>3) Best pub stomp solo queue heroes?
Makoa, Drogoz. Makoa can hold the point and kills the three enemy flankers that ran behind your team and Drogoz has an overloaded kit. People will say Cassie but the issue is that you will sometimes have games where you're against two tanks/two healers and they all sit on the point, while you have zero tanks or healers, and Cassie can't do anything in those games because she has no area denial. Drogoz can fire spit over and over at least.
>4) Personal favorite heroes and why?
Evie, Bomb King, Mal'damba. They're fun.
>5) Personal advice from your experiences with the game you'd like to pass on to a newbie?
If you lose, it is 90% because your damage all die like retards to flanks or other damage dealers. The easiest way to win is to play Makoa and act like you're doing an escort mission with four massive idiots, hooking away all the flankers who inevitably ran behind your whole team.

If your team wipes don't go in one at a time and die again. Group up. If your team keeps doing it you're going to lose no matter what.

Don't feed credits for no reason, either. If you dive solo onto a payload in a desperate, useless attempt to extend overtime while your team is miles away, coordinated teams may actually hold off on killing you and let everyone shoot you for the assist credits. 60c x 5 people is basically a tier 1 item.
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>>171661546
Flanks CAN be helpful, but in most situations it's a case of

>Look I can be good like the big boys!

They can actually deal a great amount of damage if played correctly.
Just thought I'd throw that out there so you don't feel repelled from flanks.
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>>171665034
>>171663538

Thanks for the info, got a much better idea on how I want to play now.
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>>171629642
Happens a lot in Stone Keep's central window near the stairs.
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>>171665096
This, flanks serve as more mobile atackers with high burst and dueling capabilities (Every flank has hp regen on their movement skills)
You can carry games if your skill level is above average, see pic related.
>HiRez matchmaking
>>
Drogoz is perfectly balanced and requires skill.
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>>171667948
His WYRM jets are fucking retarded, he has permanent +65% movespeed
Literally Viktor with 1k damage missiles and vertical mobility
I'm glad Andy and now Lex exist.
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>>171667868
Cassie and Drogoz have the mobility of a flanker with the damage to actually breakthrough a tank/healer team.
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>>171668075
>using WYRM jets
I just roll Fusillade so I can nuke everything
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>>171668224
*Nether Steps*
*Reversals you panic missiles*
Nothing personel kiddo
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>>171668279
>falling for reversal ever
Heh
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why the fuck are you penalized for leaving a "casual" game, tf2 had this problem at the casual launch too
zzzzzzzzzzz
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>>171668925
The same reason why you get an abandon for leaving a "normal" game in dota.
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>>171665034
>most influential role
>damage
>least useful role
>flank
>flank's entire job is to kill damage, the most influential role
>but they're the least useful
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>>171668925
you dont get penalized for leaving a 12v12 because it hardly makes a difference
if you leave a 6v6 then a significant chunk of your team is lost
desu im glad they have that penalty
i dont want salty faggots to leave after one round of getting their shit rolled and not be punished for it
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>>171669107
>if you leave a 6v6
Wrong general.
>>
>Orisa drops today on Overwatch
Goodbye Palashit, until I get bored with OW again
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>>171669107
don't call it "casual" then, because you niggers take it way too seriously
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>>171669197
>unplayable loli
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>>171668279
>shoot Andro once
>wait out panic reversal
>shoot him again at point blank
Gimping panic players works both ways

>>171668075
You only get 850 damage rockets if you run wyrm jets but yeah watching Victors feebly run away while I can match their speed while shooting is the greatest.

>>171668224
I usually go wyrm jets to multiclass and flank. I find it the best for solo carries but I played with friends the other day and with Makoa protecting me I rand Fusilade. Holy shit! Salvo just deletes people! Especially Maeves which is great.
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>>171669084
Flank > DMG > Front Line > Flank > DMG > Front Line > Flank > DMG ......

Support it is then.
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>>171669615
>Front Line > Flank
Sup bro, hope you don't mind if I solo your whole team
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>>171669197
>chocolate loli
>but
>isn't even designed to be appealing
>can't actually play as her
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>>171669753
a team of 5 flanks vs 5 FL

who would win?
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>>171669790
>>171669282
lol
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>>171669790
>>171669282
>this character needs to be a cute loli to be fun and playable
Stay in Paladins pls. The pixie has you covered most likely.
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>>171669965
>doesn't want characters to be cute lolis
Leave Paladins pls.
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>>171669965
>this character needs to be a transsexual genderfluid deminig to fit our diversity quota
stay in overwank blizzbot
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>Pedophiles posting again
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>>171670148
>I can't like both games
Stay triggered
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>>171670148
lol
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>>171669895
Flanks because no sustain
Unless they all decided to turtle at the point and rotate shields.
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>>171669895
frontline
flanks have burst damage, but you cant burst down a fernando with his shield up
especially not while getting hooked and shredded
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>>171670342
>I like overwatch
stay retarded
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>>171670439
>but you cant burst down a fernando with his shield up
lol
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>>171669965
I don't even care about lolies. Sure they're cute and they make me want to protect them like a father would protect his own daughter, but all I want is a qt mothgirl or a fairy.
>>
>>171667948
>Masterful doesn't work on pts unless you have combustible
I hope this is intended.
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>>171670439
*buys wrecker*
>>
Is it the "shitters cry about Drogoz" time of the day?
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>>171670701
>It's true
lmao hirez
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>>171670461
>being a drone
>unable to see the fun in both games
Stay cucked and mad
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>>171670974
go die, ehzo.
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>>171669895
FL. You just give Ruckus 40% more damage bubble and protect him with shields so he can raze anyone to the ground and sit on the point grouped forcing them to try to contest. Every few seconds Makoa hooks a bitch and you just fry them alive. GG ez.
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>>171670764
*puts up wall*
nothing perosnel
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>>171669197
Does she still have that retarded ability that can pull half of an enemy team off the map, halt or something like that? Then I guess we will see you soon after you get inevitably pissed by mini Torvald's ult every few seconds.
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>>171671505
It's nowhere near that intense. It's like a tiny little bump. Imagine a reverse Pharah concussion blast.
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>>171671505
This is the kind of retard that got poppy bomb king "adjusted" rip fun but shit loadout ;_;7
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>>171669197
>started playing Overwatch again, got bored of it a week after release
>all the shitflinging in these threads made me realize why: because Overwatch's time-to-kill is so low, it discourages aggression, so you just have to relax and not try to force fights
>now that I understand how to play the game, I'm enjoying the game a ton more than I used to, and doing stuff like oneshotting people behind walls and other random stupid bullshit that wouldn't happen in Paladins

also I find it funny how tanks are really fun in overwatch but really shitty to play in paladins, but supports are really fun in paladins but really shitty to play in overwatch. Probably because tanks are actually damage characters with shields in Overwatch and supports in Paladins are damage characters with healing.
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>>171671758
>didn't see our guy paladins hitbox the shit out of that kinessa
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>>171670209
There's literally nothing wrong with being a pedossexual, I hope you refrain from making such bigoted remarks in the future, thank you.
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>>171671758
Weird, I've always had more of an issue with TTK in Paladins because Viktor, Tyra, Androxus or Drogoz just look in my direction and the respawn timer starts.
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>>171671758
I just bought Overwatch, and next month I'll buy a new laptop because the current one is old as fuck and can't run it.
Since you said that you indeed have played Overwatch, can you tell me what are the differences between Paladins and Overwatch?
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>>171671758
Tanks are fun in OW because they are overpowered.
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>>171671461
*waits 5 seconds*
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>>171669084
Flanks only exist to kill Kinessa.
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>>171673727
But what happens if a good flank tries to kill a good Kinessa, not the mouth breathing retard type, but the type that can actually aim and is useful?
Which will die first? The flanker, or the Kinessa?
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>>171673727
And Kinessa exists to...
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>>171674116
Be flanker bait and a waste of a slot.
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>>171674116
Please russians
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>>171673691
>Wall last a couple seconds
>Wall has a tiny cast range
>Wall is tiny
>Wall has a huge base cooldown
Who built this wall? I hope they got someone else to pay for it.

>>171674116
Take advantage of the big maps from the closed beta :)
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>>171674116
to stay safe near spawn in Fishing Markets
you will never die and wreck those.... 2 players who will get in your scope once a round?
so 8:0 kd
and then you will go to paladins guru, see that your K/D/A is over 9k and feel like you're doing great
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>>171674240
>Take advantage of the big maps from the closed beta
Damn, I wish she had her old teleporter from beta, at least it was an actual escape.
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>>171670439
>you cant burst down a fernando with his shield up

lol.
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>>171671946
>>171672646
the time-to-kill is actually just slightly longer in Paladins; the primary differences are that:

>Most characters in Paladins have mobility skills and can escape from bad situations. In Overwatch, if you get caught out, you die.
>Very few things can oneshot you in Paladins. You can be 100-0'd by TONS of things in Overwatch.
>Healers are FAR more crucial in Overwatch than in Paladins due to lack of out-of-combat regen, only health packs. There was a pro game before healer Ying came out where one team didn't even bring a healer (although this was when Veteran was bugged and healed you to full in one second if you stayed out of combat).
>Ultimates are way stronger in Overwatch. For some ults you don't even have time to react, if you position poorly you just die, although this is partly due to the lack of mobility on most heroes. In Paladins, you can escape most ultimates once you hear the cue, or they're counterable by buying Resilience.
>Because of all of the above as well as the map design and game modes, gameplay in Overwatch boils down to waiting for ultimates and trying to break or defend chokepoints. It's a lot more slower-paced than Paladins from a tactical point of view. Paladins is more about small skirmishes around the map. However, the asymmetrical nature of Overwatch's game modes means that games in succession don't really feel similar. Siege in Paladins is nice and balanced but you might start to get bored if you feel like you're doing the same thing over and over again.

tl;dr: treat overwatch more like cs:go than paladins or tf2 and you'll have fun.
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>>171675651
>treat overwatch more like cs:go
I guess I don't have to bother trying out a game I'll get tired of after 5 hours.
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>>171670502
>>171675389
do you mongrels know the defenition of burst?

how can you "burst" 15k damage while there 4 other guys shooting at you?
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>>171675651
lol months ago some team played without a support! Hey there was a pro game 2 days ago where some team picked Fernando he's all good :)
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>>171675982
This guy, lol
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haha, lol ikr :)
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>>171675984
it's more to just illustrate the point that healers aren't as crucial in Paladins as they are in Overwatch, due to lots of healing available for most characters. Obviously they're important, but you can go without them in casual games. It's way harder to win in Overwatch if your team doesn't have a healer.

Frontliners are more important.
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>>171675982
If there's 4 other guys shooting at you, then that means there's 4 teammates you have that aren't getting shot at by anyone.
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>people writing boring essays about OW in Paladins thread
I would rather read people insulting each other over who gets to bang Sha 'Nicolas Cageface' Lin than this garbage.
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>>171676991
That would be pointless to write about though.
Everyone knows Sha Lin wants the flame lance.
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>>171676991
xd
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>>171676990
Except they might be done with you quickly if you are a flanker and have 1800 hp like half of them. Not to mention that FLs are dirty cheaters and have two additional sources of damage in form of Barik's turrets.
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>>171674116
Make Drybear feel better about himself when he will headshot Fernando standing still on point with his shield up.
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we should actually test the front v flank match, but im like 80% sure that the frontliner team will win every time
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>>171676991
> Browsing reddit
please fuck off and never comes back again
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>>171671721
>using poppy to push people off the map instead of flying in their faces to blow them up
That's an insult to the royalty.
Jolt wouldn't work so well nowadays anyway, since everyone and their grandma pick resilience
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>>171664382
But who would you even commission? Some random porn artist? Because all people that sit in Paladins lewds bussiness only draw ladies.
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Am I the only one who hates legendaries not because Jewrez made it harder to get cards but because they're unimaginative as fuck? The only really interesting legendaries I find are Ruckus' jump because not only it boosts your ability by one charge but also adds extra effect and all of the Drogoz legendaries but not really because they're creative but the gameplay shift of each one really shines. Imo all passive, boring effects should just be in cards.
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>>171676991
you can start by talking about it then
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>>171678229
I can't even comprehend how you came to such conclusion, but to be honest I also don't care.
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The Age of Resilience
1200$ for 90% reduction
or go with Blast Shields / Haven 1800$ for 21% lul
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>>171678719
He's definitely some redditfag that just shibbolethed himself
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>>171678637
See this
>>171677105
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>>171678629

I feel the same. That's why I also liked Grohk ghost walk/totem and Andy dark stalker leggos, they actually change shit.
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>>171678629
The sad thing that the ones that are more creative are also worse sometimes, like why would you pick Vik's cardio if you can use gunnery or even bother with Chink's heat haze life rip when you could go for 15% faster drawing or meme stealth Flank Lin.
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>>171678629
A lot of them are straight up jokes
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>>171678775
>not buying resilience to cuck people's ultimates
It's almost like you want to give top play to enemy Pip or Torvald.
>>
How do I get better? I can't aim for shit, how do people get better at FPSs?
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>Flying is Flak's ult
lol garbage character confirmed
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>>171680042
Practice, lower your mouse sensitivity and adjust fov. You can also play aimboosters or whatever is that called.
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Thread reminder that Sha lin wants to become Fernando's wife(male).

xd
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>>171680512
I think that Fly like a Fairy is her F, and Disc jump one of her cards. There is nothing about her ultimate in datamining yet.
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>>171680639
is this going to be the genji boipucci meme of overwatch
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>>171680839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCgYN6Lv_8o
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>>171680639
And Kinessa wants to be Skye's husband (female)

:v
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>>171669084
Because Cassie and Drogoz exists.
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>>171681000
>skye's model

fairy confirmed to be TINY and a PERFECT SIZE for being an onahole
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>>171678629
>>171679367
they don't really need to be creative, just give a little difference in gameplay. Viktor and Drogoz's cards are perfect, for example. Cardio is actually good if you suspect you're going to get dived by three flankers and you just want to play hide-and-seek with them all game.

If cards get too different you might as well just make an entirely new character. Like if Buck had a legendary that turned his shotgun into an SMG.
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>>171681638
> Viktor legendary
> Perfect
holy shit you should kill yourself dude
they're straight upgrade to his damage either in ironsight or hipfire and the other one is simply a bullshit 250 heal for him running.
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Has anyone ever won grohk bustin'? Fycking glitchy game mode, I just wanna get my 50 crystals and fuck off
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>>171681000
Aw, fuck. But maybe you can at least shoot from above while ulting.
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>>171682139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU
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>>171681000
Wait they actually accidentally add Flak/Fairy in the PTS?
Also that ultimate must deal damage of some sort, it can't be just flying, r-right?
>They used pip's model
L O L I CONFIRMED
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>>171682363
I'm all about trying and failing something fair, but this PVE bullshit is just ridiculous and glitchy as fuck.
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I would bet 50 crystals that Flak will be similar to Drogoz, with her wings actually being artificial and that's why you can only fly during ultimate.
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>>171682950
What If she's not a fairy, but she has a pair of jetpacks?
What If they pull a Maeve with her?
>>
Inara could use some buffs, but she's still fairly durable. She's a selfish tank, she can reach up to 70% damage reduction, assuming the Sacred Ground card stacks with her Earthen Guard.

I've actually managed to hold down points pretty well with Grohk keeping me healed. Her cooldowns should be shorter, and damage falloff improved though.
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>>171683286
Then fuck this shit, garbage character confirmed.
I will settle for fairy or mothgirl, nothing less.
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>>171683286
Cmon now, it's a future fantasy setting, she should be a true fairy with true wings and not like Drogoz.

I actually love the sci fi stuff in this game.
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They need to get rid of this voice line now https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/d/d5/Makoa_SP_AbilityUltimate_2.ogg
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>>171681638
By that logic, you can say that Ruckus' 100 ammo is great because it gives a little difference to the gameplay, so as Tyra's 30% lifesteal. Ruckus was a great example because it literally gives you a new ability and makes the old one stronger while also letting you chase and overextend a lot and Drogoz because all of them really feel impactful to his gameplay. To add to the 'not so boring legendaries' list I would add Makoa's Shield, all of Grohk's, Andro nether step, Grover's roots, Evie's Wormhole (which was in cards previously). Other than these I don't find any legendaries that stand out and some of them are straight up ripped from cards. People are really praising Paladins because of cards and possible builds but for me coming from years of TF2 gameplay I really don't see much. Most classes have only one or at the most, two good and viable builds and they barely change your gameplay anyways and all these boring legendaries are of absolutely no help to make things interesting.
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Thread reminder that Seris will act all edgy and dark around people, but she's actually just a shy girl that has trust issues.

XD fanfiction
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>>171682950
>tfw flak is a real loli (not Evie or Maeve fake loli bs) cosplaying as a cute fairy

You can take my money drybear! All of it!
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>>171683767
>tfw Makoa will be stopped very easily now
I wonder if the tanks nerfs bring Nando back to the meta.
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>>171683767
I will not... *stuns you* READY!
heh...nothing personnel, turtle soup.
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>>171683767
I can't wait to blast ulting Makoa off the map as Torvald or Cassie.
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I'd be ok with Makoa's ult nerf (lets be honest its too powerful), if they nerfed Drogoz as well.
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>>171683821
>Tfw no more cards that do stuff like change how barik's turret works
>No more turning your normal turrets into slow firing missile launchers
>No more turning your normal turrets into short ranged flamethrowers that burnt enemies which let you take advantage of cards that made it so you dealt increased damage to burning enemies
>No more turning your turrets into CC machines that could slow, daze, or knockup enemies

And not turret related
>No card that lights the enemy on fire when they run through your barikade
;_;
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>>171684639
>if they nerfed Drogoz as well
He already is getting nerfed.
>Reduced Health from 2500 to 2400.
>Reduced Ult Charge Rate by 10%.
:^)
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>>171684920
this is more of a Kinessa buff
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>>171684920
Why can't they just take away his one hit kill? It clearly "doesn't fall in line" with the rest of the game.
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>>171684915
They want to make it easy for people to know what kind of abilities the enemy has, adapting is too hard for most people.
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>>171684920
What about >>171670701
I know it might be just bug, but it wouldn't be surprising if Hi-rez could not patch it up before release.
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>>171685604
>take away his one hit kill
>tank meta becomes even more dominant
>>>/owg/
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>>171686479
Yes because his one-hit KO move only affects tanks. Kill yourself.
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>>171684915
All of this was possible before?
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>>171686479
>tank meta is bad
>lets solve it with a Drogoz meta
>scalie fags are ok with this

The item system guarantees that tank meta will never be that strong.
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>>171686575
A 1-hit every other minute or three, depending on how shit your drogoz is.
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>>171686575
yes because his one-hit KO move does nothing to help balance tanks. kill yourself.
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>>171687257
So you're saying no game is balance without Dragoz.
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>>171687356
no I'm saying you have to go back
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>>171686589
At some point he has cards to do all of that stuff, though looking at it now it might've not all been available in one patch. The game has changed a lot and old memories of it kinda bleed together, rip old paladins ;_;
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>tank meta
Do we even have something like this, I feel like meta consists mostly of 'pick op champions like Andro, Drogoz, Makoa and Grohk before your enemy does' and not trying to stack two tanks so opponent can boost his damage with wrecker.
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>>171687870
>that firewall
Fuck, that would deter people from just waltzing through your walls to kill you and your turrets.
I wish I could have seen it.
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>>171684915
Damn, was this all in the beta? Because it sounds so damn amazing. The only things from beta I remember were damage Ying and melee Grover.
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>>171687057

Lets do a thought experiment, assuming teams with a similar skill level, on the last point of the game 3/3, the team without a Drogoz is at a massive disadvantage because the enemy has the capability of instantly deleting the tank or the healer (lets ignore his massive point control potential), even if he misses one of them just getting a random charater will turn the battle into a 4 vs 5.

Its also very unfun to be a frontline and know for a fact that you will die at least once every point fight with little to no means of escaping, even if you end up winning.
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>>171687870
Fuck, this is what legendaries should be and not 'additional damage on blunderbuss'.
Firewall for Nando when.
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>>171683286
>pull a Maeve
What did he mean by this?
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>>171688180
Okay friend, let's further the experiment and say there's an Androxus on the other team. Now it's a 4v5 in team Andro's favor because he deletes Drogoz instantly instead.
>>
People are literally advocating for a Drogoz meta in order to counter an hypothetical tank meta, which already is avoided by the item system.
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>>171688180
Lots of ultimates have that level of impact though. My experience is that 3/3s are almost always decided by what team has more ultimates built or nearly built going in, and successfully get them off.
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>>171688180
It is possible to jump over the drogoz, but with how jump height isn't a fixed thing (sometimes jumping is more of a hop than an actual jump), that's not something you can count on.
Anyone with vertical movement can usually escape, since the drogoz never seems to fly up.
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>>171688459
>>171688462
>>171688465
>>171688505
>>171688512
>/palg/
>5 posts in 30 seconds
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>>171688459
Drop the hints on cat character and then reveal that Maeve is actually regular human with weird eyes and random cat jokes.
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>>171688626
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DEAD GAME
OVERWATCH WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MONOPOLY ON THE MARKET
DELETE THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>171688459
Probably something about another "anthropomorphic human"
>>
>quit around the time Sha Lin came out
>get back online today for the heck of it
>hmm, let's try this Maeve personage
>play for 14 hours straight.

Help guys, I haven't had this much fun in ages, fucking ages. Tomorrow I got work and I haven't even showered yet, god damn.
Also how do I optimise Maeve to her full potential?
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>>171688679
>cat character
We already the furry fetish covered.
A female furry character would be stupid because all furries are gay.
>>
>>171688857
Play in the patch she came out of.
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>>171688462

Some character classes have an advantage over others, you might personally like that or not but it is balanced by design, generally speaking at the same level of skill a flanker will kill a damager, a damager will kill a tank and a tank will fuck up any flank.

Drogoz ult is out of line with everything else in the game, and that's on top of an already strong character that would still be amazing without it.
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>>171688679
My furry dick couldn't have handled an actual furry cutiepie in this game. It was a bargain I did with Hirez
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>>171688857
>Also how do I optimise Maeve to her full potential?
Learn to escape a lost fight before dying.
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>>171688679
>catgirl fags complains about the fact that maeve is not what they expected to be with their only source being a DATAMINE where thing could change anytime
Fuck off faggot.
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>>171689212
>DATAMINE
Where do they even get that shit from?
Why is lowrez so incompetent?
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>>171688387
>hacker skin for Nando when?
>with shitty tech lines like ''hack the planet" and "firewall up"
>when you get killed: "THEY GOT THE MAINFRAME"
>>
>everyone talking about drogoz as the only tank meta counter
>everyone forgetting about Tyra's molotov which comes out far more often than the fist
>every forgetting about Lex who can instant kill multiple people at or below 65% hp
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>>171689061
Except tanks can't do shit to flankers unless maybe M'koa.
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>>171689061
>tank will fuck up any flank
no
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>>171688505

Tell me which ones.
Pip's ult is very strong, but its countered by one of the cheapest itens that is also very useful against his slow and against another strong CC character like BK, outside of that we have Makoa's ult, which is getting a massive nerf.
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>>171689598
>>171689807

A flanker won't be able to do much against a tank either, if it were a tank only against a flanker the tank would hold the objective indefinitely while the flanker flies or hops around uselessly, in this sense its a counter.
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>>171689592
>Play Tyra
>Start grinning like a madman whenever I see a tank on the enemy team
>Start raping them and making them regret playing tank with my Molotov
>After a while, whenever they see me they just give up and let me kill them If they're alone

Playing Tyra against a tank is the best feeling ever, especially if they don't have a good flank to keep me under control.
I just love making people suffer with Tyra because I'm a tank main and I'm sick of being the one that always suffers.
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>>171689592
Tyra is great but she is easily countered even by an Skye or a mobile damage like Cassie.
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>>171690243
>tank that stands in molotov
They actually deserve to die then.
It shouldn't be so hard for tank to actually kill Tyra, since she can't juke them like the other damage champions, but I guess that people are this retarded.
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>>171690668
Most try to run away, but I use Mercy kill and crush all their hope of getting away from me.
Knowing how to use Tyra makes her an actual beast, unless a good flanker exists on the enemy team.
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>>171690601
It's really easy to counter Tyra (even Pip can shit on her with his slows making her almost immobile) but if you just don't pay attention to her for a second then she will fuck up your entire team.
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>>171690668
It's also effective area denial. Throw it in a choke the tank has to go through and they either have to take the damage or go the long way around.
>>
L8KP-4ANT-DE9R
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>>171691435
What was it?
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>>171691494
ps4 beta key
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Why don't more people buy resilience? Do they not realize how fucking good it is? Sure you don't literally buy it every match if they have no one it counters, but when the enemy team has Torvald, Pip and Mal'Damba and everyone is instantly buying Haven as usual I feel a little annoyed.
>>
>Resonance Yings with shatter builds every second game
Who is responsible for this fucking meme, now you can't even get healing from a goddamned Ying, because she's too busy rewinding illusions on point and dying to the point blank shot from Barik while doing so.
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>>171690965
*Buy cauterize*
*Block your path*
>>171691673
Resilience is good, but it's pretty much a.. meh in general. Sure, less stun time, but how much stun and silence are you going to get in a match compared to a passive 21% resistance to direct damage?
Stun and silence are never a problem excepted Kinessa Slow for me personally, but i get your point.
Also, it's always surprising to see a team buy it as bomb king: terrifying to know your grumpy has next to no effect on them!
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>>171691849
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?34185-guide-capslock-guide-to-ying-the-way-she-was-meant-to-be-yinged
https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/60jrn2/capslock_guide_to_ying_the_way_she_was_meant_to/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Paladins
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>>171692165
Ofc its that shithole
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>>171692132
>stun is never a problem
R E A D Y!
Also I would rather not be caught in accidental grumpy stun, least BK will stack 4 stickies on my face.
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>>171692165
Great, now for the next month retards will feed with Ying.
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What is worth to buy with crystals? Are chests worth that shit overall?
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>>171692165
>attempting to deal damage as support
Just pick a fucking Pip or Grohk for fucks sake.
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>>171691673
>>171692132

I buy resilience if there are at least 2 CC heavy characters and the enemy team damage is well divided between blast and direct, also I believe that a healer benefits more from it than anyone else, as a Grover its better to be able to heal/escape freely from a BK's stun than to reduce a bit of his damage as you get stickied to death.
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>>171692952
You buy skins for your waifu.
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>>171693048
I don't have a waifu
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>>171693120
get the fuck out
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>>171692952
save crystals up in case they release a limited edition set you absolutely love, or just in general for them to add more shit worth buying.
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>>171693120
fucking faggot
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>>171692827
>There is a difference between what happens in the realm of pure theorycraft and what you have to deal with in actual battles. Resonance solves a problem Shatter Yings always had to deal with before.
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>>171692165
Resonance is her best legendary.
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>>171693842
Resonance is ok for additional damage but shattering is stupid, since half of the time clones ai is too dumb to seek the enemy.
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>>171692997
>>171692132

I buy it pretty much every match because I feel like Haven is too expensive, for the same price as getting a third level of Haven I could get a level 1 and upgrade something else to level 2. I also feel like 21% isn't enough for the price.
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>>171693242
>a problem Shatter Yings always had to deal with before
This problem is losing, right? However I don't think that resonance can help with this.
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>>171690092
That doesn't happen though.
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