/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress Genera

Did they not notice?

first for 80 dwarf fortress and still don't know what i'm doing

>>171517992
Peach to dark brown skin, slate gray eyes and burnt umber hair! These are the colours of my dwarfs!

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So I'm getting back after a long hiatus, doing the usual raw modding. The purpose here is to make fighting elves more fun and increase the number and threat of goblins all around.

Doubled goblin max civ population, gave them and elves some natural skills (some to kobolds and trolls too) and doubled the population of trolls and ogres so I get more fun.

Anything I'm missing? How do I make creatures stop with the whole gender/gay fuckery and make them just normal again? I forgot what I need to change to what.

Pic related is the elf shit, still considering going through the effort of making some magic wood comparable to iron.

>>171518616
I'm fiddling with an idea to use reactions to make gear out of the superior wood and removing the wood armor/weapons tokens actually, reminded me I need to figure that out since I've mostly got the improved creature types/interactions figured out.

Though, what exactly is required for a secret to produce towers, I could swear there was a way without making zombies but can't figure out what exactly was needed.

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Finally some fun!

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>>171519521
do you actually play like that?

>>171518616
You can make everyone straight marrying types again through the ORIENTATION tag, but you'd have to check the wiki for the arguments. They'll still get married and have kids less often though, because of the way socialization has been changed over the years dwarves don't interact with each other as much as they used to even given the same amount of down time. You've practically got to lock them in a room together 80% of the time. It's a wonder they don't go extinct.

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>>171519661
heck no I just like closeups

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-creator-of-dwarf-fortress-doesnt-really-like-to-play-games-like-dwarf-fortress/

Posting for a new thread

Therapist when?

>>171519764
Thanks, now I just need to remember what values I used.

>>171520192
It's been updated a while ago.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94651132/DwarfTherapist43.5.1X64.zip

>>171520513
Oh. I'm retarded. Thanks man!

>>171517287
Post some. I love looking at big forts.

>>171521508
Seems I forgot to save my screenshots when I wiped my computer... Got some older ones from ages back but they don't compare to some of the later ones I did.
Had a few good screenshots in stonesense as well, might have some of the saves lying around somewhere.

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>>171521862
I had fun fiddling with a few of those big airy rooms.

>>171517992
anyone know the tags for playable kobolds

>>171520192
more like "wanderers when ;_;"

I need my eagle spears and bear backpacks that I skinned from their cold dead corpses

>>171524301
That's just raws and its fine to use still.

>>171524023
Yeah, they're [FUCKOFF] and [NAMEFAG]. Hope that helps.

>>171524023


You need [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE] for adventurers and [SITE_CONTROLLABLE] for fort mode, and to kill yourself you fucking namefag.

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>>171519764
I know this too well. In 2 or so years in a given fort after setting up a 'communal dormitory' of assigned bedrooms I had at least one observed incidence of two star-crossed denizens catching up with a new romance. Undoubtedly despite the discrepancy of the chance of loving and being loved back vs leading up to marriage according to the orientation percentages, just making it to lover guarantees Marriage later on. This result is only for a shotgun method of accumulating enough encounters between all the members to facilitate an artificial relationship. Perhaps this is rather counter-intuitive since two bed quarters are a better shot since it's more focused on two dwarfs at the same time, but I digress and it beats maintaining the many socializing meeting areas (temple/inn/library) which are far less encounter inducing. Ironic given the reason for the socialize reaction's debut.

>>171526468
I've tried the two dwarves per bedroom method, but it's not really all that excellent. You have to very carefully select both candidates and then leave them in there for a year or more. Even careful vetting doesn't always produce results, or I'm just bad at matching. It seems more effective to just let dwarves mingle naturally, and I feel less like Big Brother, but the rates still aren't good.

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Nice, made a smokebomb type escape interaction, jacks your speed up and fucks their speed/agility/endurance, I took over the target and tried to punch the first dude, fell over exhausted after three tries.

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>>171530505
That's pretty damn cool.

What type of coding language available today would be best suited to creating a new dwarf fortress? I was asking because I'm retired and could use a pet project.

>>171531442
some sort of proprietary language or maybe machine code.

>>171531442
How old are you?

>>171532110
27, why do you ask?

>>171531442
c++

Absolute BEST lets player for Fortress mode? I know how to play DF and everything, but id love someone doing cute and complex shit that is successful.

>>171532152
Retired at 27? You must be rich, or lying, but noone would lie on an anonymous imageboard so you can't be lying.

>>171532152
Too old to learn how to code.

>>171531173
Still hoping I can get it working better, basically started off with the ksbd stuff then got stumped on some things that'll really need the artifacts if not myth release, started fiddling with a dfaboo idea that morphed into a weird eurasia type thing, figured out some neat tricks and went back to my old conglomerate mod with the new stuff I learned like using creature variations instead of having a fuckton of caste definitions and outlandish methods to control when they show up.

Atm I'm fucking with viking/valkyrie superdwarves, knight/crusader superhumans, and I got stumped on the elves but already had them as ninja/kunoichi in the dfaboo idea so I am working with that assuming I don't get a better way to represent like, assassins/spies or something.

Still not sure where to go with gobs, but I do have the superdwarves hurling around (bright red clouds of) berserker powder that makes other dwarves flip their shit and get stronger/faster/etc, and superhumans emanating an aura of (candy cyan) holy fire that makes other humans tougher/stronger/braver, while the superelves have the smokebomb > haha you can't move and I'm at spd 10.0 shit going on.

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>>171527436
That's the ticket isn't it? Trying to select the people for their personality that is, and making guesses as to what makes a good match of lovers. Pondering this question I believe requires a thorough look into the soul and schema segment, since personality is definitely relevant to relationships and foolish to dismiss as a nonfactor. Having said that, I'll admit that I would give Toady the benefit of the doubt when assuming that two maxims arise: opposites attract while simultaneously birds of a feather flock together.
In the picture depicts the relationship of an established couple and of two lovers; the Leftmost exhibits two facets of their traits being shared while the rightside share one trait and exhibit two polar opposites of a trait. I haven't factored in any other traits that complement or destructively interfere each other, and this conjecture and my analysis may end up being nonexistent mechanics altogether, yet I can't help but notice it. I'll give credit where it's due and that means despite my digression, the relationship system we have now is safely benign enough not to interfere with the current state of affairs too much yet still leave room for further improvement as intended by his comment on the addition of the soul.

>>171532618
>tfw too old to learn how to code

>>171532281
I learned C# only to find out that APIs still use C++.

>>171532623
Just make the elfs arabs with all that mystic stuff.

>>171532936
Hmmm, but I've been trying to keep the differentiation with the male/female super-types. Vikings have skill learn rate/natural skills which different from valkyries, same with knights/crusaders.

>>171532789
>still use C++
you say it like its outdated or something.

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I have 4 months off Uni. Can I learn to play and have fun in that much time?

>>171533396
There's a lot to learn and DF is more of a memory game then anything.

>>171533629
DF is a game of tolerating all the bullshit your dwarves come up with and pressing forward instead of just flood the entire fort with lava because some asshole is pissed about not having a nice enough bedroom.

>>171533745
>3 tile bedrooms
That's more then enough!

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>>171533862
3 tiles, bed, cabinet, and a coffer, smoothed walls and nice quality shit and you can do whatever you want to them they'll still be happy.

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>>171533862
>saw 3
>read 3x3

>>171532301
DF Lets plays are all horrible.

>>171535525
>corner connecting
you disgust me

>>171536428
Be disgusted at yourself, they aren't corner connected, the white is solid unrevealed stone.

>>171536550
which would still mean the top and bottom corridors are connected to the middle via those corners in the stone. that or I can't read the weird ass tileset that this is.

>>171533396
That's enough time to learn DF well enough for it to not be fun anymore, play something else, think you want to play DF again, realize you don't, play something else, actually want to play DF again, and then wantdorf cantdorf. As long as you aren't stupid or something.

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>>171537169
It was the dfwiki character table characters, but here's a slightly tweaked example of the idea I was playing with there.

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>>171517992
I don't know who keeps wanting to make the OP say that the Starter Pack and DT are in some kind of half-beta, but the reason that it isn't changed on the pasta is because they're buggy as shit. DT in particular is really only worth being used to test for bugs right now. In my experience, anyways.

I mean, if you guys want it changed to that then that's cool but I don't really see the point otherwise.

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>Third of the fort children
>Child gets a mood
>Hes one year old
>Dreams of becoming a legendary warrior
Shame that the characters don't grow and change, only ones that do are the ones that become necromancers.

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>>171539130

>>171517992
is dwarf the rapist fixxed yet? i have been waiting on a new fort for some time now

>>171541954
>>171521098

>>171541051
You should check his ID. He might be lying.

>>171541051
N-nani?

>>171542094
Link is 404'd

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I can do you one better
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0b01u8spidv0dn/DwarfTherapist43.5.1X64.zip?dl=0

How do you mod out animal men in the raws? Hate those fuckers

>>171546003
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12737

>>171543358
>>171544398
I hope he's lying, otherwise HE IS THE ETERNAL UNMAKER, THE ONE WHO COMES BEFORE AND AFTER, THE BREAKER OF DREAMS, AND RULER OF THE OUTER REALMS!

>>171546117
thank you famalamam

>>171545713
>download it
>scan detects malware
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>171546257
Not a prob, I needed it for the ksbd mod anyways so I jusut grabbed a fresh one to make sure I got them all and figured it would be worth sharing.

So.. I got my first siege now.. I have some shitty guys in a squad, I've closed the drawbridge too, what do I do now?

>>171548306
Open the drawbridge, unless you have some other way to reach the enemy.

There's nothing more boring than sealing yourself off and "winning" every siege by hiding behind a drawbridge.

>>171548357
well, in any way I wouldn't be too sad in losing this fortress, seeing that it has some design flaws, and I don't know shit about the game yet

My squad has only novice people (all that there were in my fortress).. Is it a good idea to make more squads, with people who don't know shit about fighting, to spam the gobbos a good idea, or should I keep them inside?

>>171548512
If they don't have combat skills, they're fucked. You might be best off waiting that siege out, unless you want a meerciful end for the fort.

>>171520053
An article with THAT title must have really insightful comments.

Still, we're getting spoiled with interviews lately.

And considering that Toady already finished the off-site squad stuff, we might get the release before summer after all.

>>171548640
the fuck, I barely waited a few days ingame and when I opened the bridge no gobbos were out there

>>171520053
I love how Toady politely tries to explain why doesn't want to play shittier versions of his own game, without sounding like a prick.

>>171548834
That happens sometimes. I think it's a bug.

At least use the opportunity to actually train a proper militia.

>>171545426
>404
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y0k4odt3356mc2y/DwarfTherapist4_35_2.zip?dl=0

>>171549036
That's the patch
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0b01u8spidv0dn/DwarfTherapist43.5.1X64.zip?dl=0

>>171548927
Yeah, the phrase that popped into my head was "damning with faint praise" as I read it.

>They do things I don't do, which is neat, but most of the stuff they do like df are the parts which I don't really consider important.

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>We were thinking of having, say you have a more standard world with a regular old afterlife, and you were playing adventure mode, and then when you died it doesn't just say quit and start again. You're actually sitting in the Elysian fields all of a sudden, and you can move around, and you're like, what just happened?

>'Ohhh, damnit.' It wouldn't be a long game, because it would probably be boring, but you could chat with some godlike figures and decide if you wanted to go into the pool and reincarnate or go do something, or if you just want to retire and hang out and be dead. And when your other characters die they can talk with you about how you both died stupidly.

>>171548834
Start training your guys, also build some stonefall traps behind the bridge.

>>171549773
how do I know if I need to make weapons?

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What the fuck is this image.

I can't think of a more overly complex way to outline industry progression, this seems needlessly cluttered.

Has anyone tried the new squads thing, how does it work? I re-downloaded after a year long hiatus in anticipation but I'm doing an Adventurer mode to ready up first

>>171549887
If you don't know, you probably need to.

Also, check the inventories of your guys. If they're uneuipped, then you definitely need more weapons and armour. Weapons and shields go first. If you have to choose between ashield and another piece of armour, always go for the shield. Since joint damage was introduced, blocking damage with a shield (or parrying with a weapon) is the only safe way to null all incoming hits.

>>171549940
>le dorf fort is so difficult xddd
is what that image is meant to convey

>>171549940
Following this kind of chart when starting a new game seems like a perfect way to turn DF into a chore, where you need to check off boxes instead of actually playing.

It's the same as with tutorials on youtube. They force you to do things in the same order as they do.

Everyone has different playstyles, and most of these playstyles are fully functional for playing DF.

>>171549940
Eh, this is the simplest dorf fort flowchart

I'm going to sleep my anons, good night

>>171550876
Good night you Diggers of Mines, you Urists of New Axeland!

>>171550876
night sweet dreams :)

>>171550876
Don't stay outside at night or the bogeyman will get you.

How do I become an archer/x-bowman in adventure mode? What stats and attributes do I need to raise?

It seems like it takes ages to fire a single arrow, while the enemy just zooms to my face and fucks me over

I killed all the zombies with lava, why wont the siege end? is it glitched?

Wow, I heard that the new embarking-from-fortress system that's out right now allows you to send massive armies to attack enemy civilizations, this is huge.

>>171552189
You "heard" wrong.

>>171552173
The necromancer is still there, hiding.

>>171551861
Sadly that's due to the fixed firing/reload delay.

>>171552189
Out next update, not yet.

>>171551861
Archer+weapon skill are the two most important skills.

For I'm not sure. Spatial and kinesthetic sense sound like they should be important, but the experiments that other anon made showed that they only made a marginal difference.

I recommend that all combat-based characters put their points into agility and intuition. The latter of these proved to have a big impact on combat efficiency.

>>171552284
I checked everywhere unless he's one of the 2 visitors that are at the tavern right now

>>171552374
He's hiding genius, he isn't strolling around saying "kill me please"

>>171552357
>For I'm not sure
For attributes*

>>171552404
he's hiding on my map invisibily?

like do I have to send out a scout because of fog of war?

>>171552474
yes

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>>171552404
>hiding
Looks like hiding didn't save this guy.

>>171552506
Broclops needs to be caught in a cage and treated well.

>>171552474
>he's hiding on my map invisibily?
No, he's hiding visibly sherlock.

>>171552486
>>171552580
I went all over the surface

do I have to check my staircase going down all the way to my forge?

>>171552698
You didn't look hard enough.

>>171552284
No you idiot, I didn't hear aything wrong, you did.
>>171552291
Wrong, it's out now, I just heard from a friend.

>>171552789
okay but this time im chopping down all the trees

I killed the first row of zombies with fucking lava do you think that had something to do with it? should I have waited until they were all on the map?

>>171552820
fuck off

>>171552991
Prove me wrong, dumbass.

You're wrong. The new c menu allows you to attack other civilizations using large armies and it's in game RIGHT NOW.

Ironic shitposting is still ironic.

But whatever, here's a (You) anyway:
>>171553412

>>171553476
Dumb neckbeard you are literally arguing against something I've proven and then you do your dumb (you) meme. Return Reddit, shitposter.

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>>171549258
>tfw drawn to Dwarf Fortress and DF-likes for the wrong reasons
I don't know what to feel anymore

>>171553646
Learn about the goals of the project and the reason why the stuff that drew you to it are still important in the larger picture?

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>>171553646

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>>171552836
Zombies and lava is weird, I had some in cathelms that sat at the bottom of the map burning for years.

>>171552404
>he isn't strolling around saying "kill me please"

Unlike the player's dwarves.

How do goblins reproduce? How do their populations grow?

I'm thinking of adding orcs as human-sized but stronger foes, but I want them on the same civ as gobbos. Any modders have any tips to do that?

>>171556114
>how is gobbly formed?
>how girl get pragnent?

I just succumbed to the siege and reclaimed it

ive never reclaimed before, what did my dorfs do to the world around them besides invite a fuckload of hyumons into the tavern?

>>171556114
make a separate "orc" caste for the gobbo creature.

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>>171517992
>/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress Genera
>Genera

>>171557034
>waah waah, stop misspelling the name of the general, it hurts my feefees!

>>171557034
>>171557171
>no edition

>>171557171
This is a quality general and there is a certain level of excellence expected from each post and the OP is not exempt from that.
I've already dispatched our autism enforcement unit to dispose of him.

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>season changes
>3 dwarfs instantly drop dead

How fucked am I?

>>171559647
Probably old age. The "dying of old age" checks seem take place during season changes.

I know this because I once modded antmen to be a playable civ, and they have really low life expectancy. After a few years, I got a page of deaths each time the season changed.

>>171559764
An interesting possibility. But my fortress is on an evil embark and dwarfs have occasionally wandered into the evil clouds of gloom. There is no immediate effect but I wonder...

>reclaim a generated fortress
>part of the stairwell, the magma forges and everything below are fucking flooded with magma

How do I unfuck this lads?

>>171560123
P U M P S

>>171560123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I_FHQWRuj8

fort nearing 5th year, 160 dorfs, basically running on it's own right now, lagging quite a bit too
do I start a new one on lower pop cap or wait for something to rek my fort? I have 20 legendary full bronze warriors and 10 decent marskdwarves so it'd take something really nasty

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>twenty minutes into a new fortress
>farmer normie cancels store item: interrupted by forgotten beast

>>171561083
didn't you get an announcement popup first?

i tried getting into this game, but it's too confusing.

anyone know of a simple guide i could use?

>>171561231
No, I reclaimed an old fortress though so maybe that's why it fell. FB is just hiding in a bedroom now and I have no idea what to do

>>171561375
the team fortress 2 guide

>>171561821
wat

>>171561375
Guides will only serve to confuse you more, playing it on your own is the best way to learn.

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Discord when?

>>171562216
k, that's good enough for me

>>171562005
team- what you need in order to start the game
fortress- what you want to make
2-cat; the only thing you need to bring

it's the perfect guide

>>171561375
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Quickstart_guide
no need to follow it too closely, just consult it (and the wiki in general) when you're having trouble with something

>>171562223
so glad I missed that, now please never post it again

>>171562947
i used to be n adventurer like u, but thn i took the lash to the kea xDDD

>>171563043
In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will.

>>171562947
In a time before time, I attacked me.

>>171562947
Can you stop forcing this meme now?

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Does anyone else like to build their prison cells next to an underground refuse dump so that prisoners are constantly choking on miasma?

>>171564614
hey man a bumps a bump

>>171562573
Still sad because I really liked the art, but, I mean, it's right there in the name.

>discord: a lack of harmony or agreement between people or things

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I got the usual issue: Marksdwarf won't use the archery range.
He has a quiver with ammo in it.
The ammo is set to both training and combat.
His squad is set to training and the archery range has his squad set to train there.
What can i be missing?

>>171564680
no because 99% of my prisoners tend to be my legendary miners or weapon-smiths/armor-smiths and are in jail because some shitty noble didn't get his 10 adamantine ballista parts, so my jails are made with the finest silk ropes i can make and full of statues and near our food stockpile

>>171564927
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Advanced_Marksdwarf_Training_Guide#Squad_Training_Orders

>>171564927
give them the hunting labour and set the squad to inactive

>crafting crystal glass bong
>farming weed
>dwarf smoking in front of engraved walls and statues
>cartel wars with other races

Should be good bois

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>>171567986
>hundreds of impoverished elves and goblins get tortured and gruesomely murdered by the gobbo cartels
>just so young Urist can be edgy and smoke weed as part of his middle class "self-realisation"

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>name my fortress for the first time in, oh, a year
>Settle on the randomly generated name "Respectwheels"
>roll with it and make my fortress symbol The Hot Wheels of Respect (is an image of three wheelbarrows)

I forgot how fun this part was

>>171546420
hmm, weird how a memory injector would show up on a av software

>>171569547
after seven years of DF experience, I still "Play now" almost every time.

the only times I pick "Prepare" is when I want to make a hyper-specialised fort for experimenting with the game mechanics.

>>171570034
I'd do the same except I hate that the play now option starts you with only 2 miners.

>>171570362
One miner actually. There are two picks though, and the first thing I do is usually giving the mining labour to the stoneworker with v-p-l.

>>171570362
>>171570034
>tfw your start is 5 miners 1 carpenter/woodcutter and 1 noble for all the noble needs

>>171570479
>one miner actually
Fuck. I always go with 3 or 4 with adequate+ mining skill. Anything else is extremely slow-paced

>>171570485
This is actually very efficient if you know what you're doing. All you need in the beginning is miners and a bunch of food. You can then turn your first migrants into peasant farmers and start producing food right away.

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>>171570773
>Fuck. I always go with 3 or 4 with adequate+ mining skill. Anything else is extremely slow-paced
I did pic related with one starting miner.

>>171571048
Could have made it 25% faster with 3. Prove me wrong.

>>171570773
>This is actually very efficient if you know what you're doing. All you need in the beginning is miners and a bunch of food. You can then turn your first migrants into peasant farmers and start producing food right away.
Yeah that's what I've been doing
Starting carpenter gets woodcutting enabled, chops down a handful of trees for 7 beds, table and a chair, miners go ham on the stone, and before 1st wave is here I have enough shit to accomodate 60 dorfs minimum, along with workshop rooms and storage places for everything I'll ever need.

>>171562223
well with his logic we might as well make our own subreddit and use that with discord.

god I hate newfags

Please, how do I make it so new migrants don't come with their skills activated?

>>171572341
get LNP

>>171572783
Isn't there something I can edit in the files or a dfhack addon?

>>171572870
yeah but it's easier to just hit a button on the launcher.

>>171573242
I'm using the 64x version though.

>>171573242
>>171572783
>waah waah, stop not being dependant on crutches, I don't want to be the only one who can't play the game next time an update hits and LNP becomes obsolete

>>171573486
umm, can you cut down on this "waah waah" meme, sweetie?

>>171573486
>>171573565
kids stop, go to your rooms and spank yourselves for your obnoxious tumblr-tier passive aggressive arguments.

next time call each other faggots like normal, well-adjusted anons

>>171573945
Damn right honey, now bring that hairy ass back to bed, I'm getting cold.

No homo tho.

>>171573486
you wanna talk being dependent on crutches? stop asking for help in this thread, go use the wiki or dig through raws. fucking stupid retard.

the whole "play df with no utilities or tilesets" meme is starting to grow old real quick.

>>171574058
That isn't even me...
I've tried to look through the raws but can't find anything about stopping migrants having their skills activated by default, and the wiki isn't of any help in this regard.

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>>171549036
>>171549112
>Not responding
>close the program

>>171517992
What is the most "readable" tileset?

>>171572341
>>171574505
It's in d_init.txt. Each option has a brief explanation for what it does. [SET_LABOR_LISTS:SKILLS] is the default behavior that you want to change.

>>171575035
Phoebus

>>171575035
Gemset

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I love the smell of Miasma... smells like victory.

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>>171575048
Thank you!
Here, have a halfling.

>>171575417
That is an halfling I could fuck

But it she had a bigger ass and bigger boobs it would be better

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>>171575482
Well a drawfriend on /aco/ drew me this.

>>171575214
>>171575256
Thanks

>>171575482
Theres no beard though? What are you?! Gay??

>>171575741
Well now that's much better, I didn't know /aco/ had drawfags as good as this.

>>171575283
nice

>>171560549
I think you need some more adamantine for so mighty a fort.

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>>171575897
Well I get most of my deliveries from /trash/, like pic related, and I can tell you there are a lot of good artists either way.
Now back to dorfs.

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>didn't realize that long term residents count against your total dwarf population
>now a third of my civilian population are performers

>>171577452
There was a mineshaft magma accident. They'll never know

>>171534465
not a bad design.

>>171576130
This.

Be sure to mine ALL the adamantine.

>>171576130
>>171578639
yea, I'm not good enough to handle HFS at this point, it's no fun if it's 100% obvious you have no chance
I think I'm just gonna wait until the next megabeast / FB / gobbo attack and then retire

>>171578902
Why not train 30 more guys to decent levels and go for HFS?

>>171579897
it'd take too long since my current FPS is shite

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This seems a little extreme

>>171560549
>only 5 years
>pop is only 160
>already getting to FPS death

Jesus. Its like Toady doesnt care that his lazyness/refusal to update the game for modern machines is going to eventually kill the game

>>171581386
Oh, I see.

Just dig through. It ain't gonna get better.

>>171581790
Do not expect any optimization until donations go down because the game runs like shit

Do you smell it?

>We have little missions for groups of squads, and they can leave the map now. The current possibilities are rescue missions for kidnap victims, artifact recovery missions, and generic raids if you just want to start trouble. There are myriad issues to sort out, as expected. I'll let you know if anything amusing happens!

>>171582239
He's said before that if donations dropped off he would just get a job. Economic pressure isn't coming (he's making more in donations than ever), but if it did it wouldn't help.

He'll probably make it multithreaded when he adds in dimensional planes and has to recode the whole game from scratch to support it

>>171583670
So DF will never run well

Good

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Fort mode will be irrelevant once the myth update comes anyway

>>171552506
That's badass

>>171584415
What a silly opinion to pretend you hold. You should take that show on the road, anon.

Newbie here how do I get started? I remember trying this game a few years before but I was turned off pretty hard by the ASCII graphics, is there anything to make it more palatable?

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>>171584806
see >>171562480 and >>171549940

You'll get used to the graphics. Use your imagination.

>>171584806
Play some plain old roguelikes to get used to the ASCII graphics. Nethack or Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.

>>171584806
Download tileset like gemset, phoebus, or spacefox.

Grab LNP if you're a lazy fuck to install stuff by yourself, you can find it here: http://lazynewbpack.com/

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>>171584806
try to stick with ASCII or CLA else you won't understand ASCII screenshots and will have a harder time changing tilesets, you'll get used to it in no time
most graphic sets don't really make things that much easier, a small, unreadable picture of a goblin isn't much better than a green g

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Neat.

>>171575741
the wrong kind of thicc

>>171586778
There's no "wrong" kind of thicc.

>>171586927
the oversized thigh looks weird next to the underdeveloped calf. those calves shouldn't be able to support her weight.

>>171587193
Don't think about it too much

>>171587258
I'm an admirer of thiccness, but anatomical disfigurement just turns me off.

>>171585313
Those have tilesets, and DCSS has great tiles though, there's no reason to play with ASCII unless you like how it looks. Nethack's tiles aren't good but Nethack4 has some nice simple tiles.

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>>171585313
>nethack
more like netHACK

>>171587738
I don't get it.

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I really wish Eggs would break upon hitting someone or something.

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>>171587772
>>171586554
wtf, this isn't max

>>171584643
It is my sincerely held belief. If, as Toady has indicated, Dwarf Mode ends up mostly separated from the procedurally generated magic and wonder, why even bother?

>>171587914
Literally nothing wrong with playing on a smaller scale

>>171588375
stop masquerading as MaxTM

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>>171588524
>MaxTM

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>>171588918
You know him.

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>>171588997
Who is this man

>>171589353
A fag

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>>171575982
Thanks!

So I found candy and magma at about z-level -5. I don't think that it'll be possible to pump-stack it up. What do you suggest as an alternative method, lads?
I equally don't want to have to send dorfs a hundred and fifty floors down.

>>171591138

bucket crews or mod in so that you can utilize the vast cat population as automated bucket carriers

>>171591410
RIght, so how's that done? First obviously make a dozen iron buckets. But then what?

>>171590125
Marry me Drew.

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>>171587772
I feel bad now

>>171589713
>>171589353
I like to think he's not a fag, but then I remember>>171588997 and I have it hard

No offense max, but what the hell was crossing your mind?

>>171588230
He hasn't indicated that, though. You're reading too much into offhanded comments about not knowing how and how much will be implemented and when, which is a question he has about literllay every feature ever.

>>171591138
Explosives

>>171591536
You can't carry magma in buckets, anon is either fucking with you or dumb.

>>171587914
Why would you think it is?

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>>171588997

>>171592664
pic naming pattern

>>171581445
what exactly? and take screenshots with the windows maximized, not that super small default window

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Death is all around us. This is truly horrifying.

What is the last stable version for Lazy Pack?

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>>171593714
Stop playing with LNP.

>>171593889
What is wrong with LNP?

>>171594073

It makes the game more accessible to...god forbid it normies

>>171594201
yeah but thats how you convert normies
you really gonna sit there and tell me most of the people that hate LNP didn't start with it?

>>171594427
>convert normies
why?

Toady gets enough donations as it is.

>>171594201
but anon, anon-san, anon-kun...

you were a normie once

>>171594427
I don't think most DF players of any description started with it. Why would you think they did?

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>Find a dwarf in some lair
>Female, amethyst eyes
>Greets me every time I enter her Lair
>Pretty sure she's a werebeast but I can't bring myself to kill her

Should I just man up and kill her? I don't want to murder someone if I don't have to.

>>171594427
>you really gonna sit there and tell me most of the people that hate LNP didn't start with it?
I sure didn't.

>>171594427
Not him but I'm a shitty player, and I didn't start with LNP, the only thing I did was to install DFhack for the labors screen and twbt, because I like square ascii

I started not too long ago, and I'm learning. If you need LNP it's because you don't really want to learn to play

>>171594656
>wait for a full moon
>get bitten
>join her

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>>171594538

Thats a long time ago in a bygone era....now i am something....different

>>171594656
I support this >>171595029

>>171593714
I started in ASCII and never left.

>>171595097
>>171595029
as somebody who has tried this before, let me warn you
she might acept you if you also are a were-whatever, but its weird AI, she might or she might not, I have experienced both cases
dont atack her, let her atack you
take off your armor, get bitten, put on armor and get the fuck out

>>171590125
I like this guys shitty but coherent art style.

>>171594427
I started back in 34.x days and the most I had was the rapist, and that was much later after I started. LNP is a blessing imo, the people who hate on it and idiot purists who ruin anything they touch.

>>171595991
>Shitty

no u

>>171595991

watch your tongue heathen your in /dfg/ now

>>171595991
It's quite endearing

>>171596141
>>171596165
it's like something you'd see scribbled in the back pages of a high-schoolers binder. sort of half effort nonchalant art.

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How do I fort design that isn't rectangles?

>>171596754
Cubes

>>171596754
First you must use a square tileset

>>171596446
My old high school notebooks are full of cringey deviantart tier weebshit scribbles.

I'd pick Timbukdrew over that any day. He HAS talent.

>>171596932
>>171596947
Squares is a kind of rectangle.

>>171596754
Are you looking to make a Fort that looks nice or is really efficient?

>>171597254
multi zlevel structures.

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I haven't opened the circus, but I've got a clown swimming around in the magma sea. This does not bode well.
She's a webber, too.

>>171597254
Yes but it's the best type

>>171597359
Looks nice.
Efficiency leads to rectangles.

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>>171595029
>>171595097
>>171595981
I fucking did it, I don't know how useful she'll be in battle but i'm glad to have her with me.

I had about four other men following me but they died in battle against the goblin menace.

>>171598010
No, you were supposed to live on the lair together and die of old age

>>171598010
What flavor of werebeast are you now?

>>171596754
Restriction is the mother of creativity, and nature it's most proficient artist

Dig to the caverns and dig inside the rocky columns, rooms tightly hugging the border between the dry civilization of your fort and the humid darkness of the underground.
Use any veins and patches you find and mine out as the basis for corridors and rooms.
Throw caution and efficiency to the wind, do not impose your alien molds to the ancient stone, just go with the ebb and flow that forged it.

Also, drugs. If you feel like using fancy words, then it's working

>>171594427
I unironically play without any mods whatsoever.

>>171598273
>>171598010

It's better to try and train your qt dwarf werebeast waifu into becoming a respectable person in society. Good on you, brave soldier. Show her a good time and let her relive the life she thought was impossible!

Just make sure to memorise the special date and take her into the wilds before she can turn.

>>171598384
Cavern forts truly are patrician tier.

>>171598373
I'm actually a vampire, don't think I can get werebeast and vamp.

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>>171598384
I will try this.
Thank you.

What is the best mineral?

>>171599479
micropeen

>>171599479
Realgar.

>>171599479
Steel, the hardest metal known to man

>actually helping the dumb animeposter

>>171599840
Fuck off, Animeposters are a non-renewable resource that should be treasured.

>>171599721
Hold up isn't titanium harder

>>171599721
Diamond is harder than steel you idiot

>>171600150
Yeah but diamond isn't a metal, we're talking about metals.

>>171600082
>>171600150
Are you idiots still in middle school? Steel is harder, that's why they're used to support skyscrapers.

>>171600290
If it's harder than diamonds then why can jet fuel melt it?

>>171587538
You CAN play them with ASCII, though, and there are fewer characters to learn. Get used to it, and it might be easier to pick up DF.

>>171600290
I swear I read somewhere that titanium was harder than steel.

>>171600290
Diamond is a harder metal than steel, that's why the use drills with diamond tips to dig up actual steel ore.

>>171600290
Steel is used because its cheaper and strong enough. Not because its thr "strongest." Retard.

>>171600536
>implying pdc bits are purely diamond

FFFUUUUUCK! There are 32 goblins outside right now, the fuck do I do?

I've searched and it seem chromium is actually the hardest metal while tungsten is the strongest.

>>171600601
>>171600536
>>171600419
>>171600347
wow, fucking idiots. I thought DF players were smarter than this. EVERYBODY knows that steel is hard. I just asked my Wife's son and he said steel is harder.

>>171600739
Kill them

>>171597737
Wish I could help you but I don't really ever make mine look good, or at least not on purpose. Look into fractals and geometric designs though.

>>171600823
I can't, I only have 10 novice fighters, and the number of them already increased to 56

>>171594427
I started with tileset because I couldn't handle the ascii bantz. Some five years on and I play a (slightly) modded but otherwise unadorned edition.
(I modded in giant rabbits for fun.)

>>171599721
>>171600082
>>171600150
>>171600225
>>171600290
>>171600347
>>171600419
>>171600536
>>171600601
>>171600791
Y'all are dumbshits, it's dragonforce

What a bunch of FUCKING RETARDS. Adamantium is the strongest metal. Holy shit.

>>171600935
correction: 76 now

>>171600739
First don't panic. Make a warren in the deepest and most defensible part of the fort, and send all the non military dwarves there. there's a command in the military screen that does that. Then, close all and any drawbridges/things that would impede access. Then wait. They'll mutilate your yaks and horses, but they will eventually leave.

microcline is, in fact, the strongest metal

>>171600990
What about mithril?

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>next update you will be able to send your cotton candy pimped troops to hack apart elves and finally purify the land

>>171600082
>>171600150
>>171600347
>>171600419
>>171600536
>>171600601
>>171600937
Thanks for the (you)s boys.

>>171601272
>coming August 2018

>>171601426
Aren't you an optimist, anon.

But what if they lose?

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>>171601074
this is my entrance, can they get in through that water channel?, they have 10 trolls and lots of beak dogs too

Anyone know how to run this on Linux? Doesn't seem to work.

>>171601554
>Doesn't seem to work.
>Loonix
All is as it should be.

>>171601505
They might be able to climb it, but will probably fall in the water, and may drown. Just in case, wall yourself in. Reckless bravery will kill everyone.

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>>171601554

>>171601652
that's the only water source, will my dwarves survive without it for the time it takes for the gobbos to give up?

>>171601505
>wasting time dragging all stones outside
dude, just mass hide them through the stocks screen.

>>171601881
It's my first fort that got by without everyone dying suddenly, it still has a lot of design flaws

>>171601881
It builds character

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>>171601618
>>171601780
No, I mean...I run the df file inside the tarball from the Linux version download....and nothing happens.

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>>171602136

Is the rimworld general up? Or did we combine yet?

Why does my furnace operator ignore the huge stockpile of haematite just waiting to be used, and goes down some thirty z-levels to get some?

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>>171596754
>The medical room was ruined! Behem hollowed it in an unscrupulous shape and called it an octogone. I explained to her squares are the art thus to aspire for that. I fixed the medical room but the octogone still haunts me.

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Well guy this is just a little terrifying.

>>171602451
*angry response*

>>171602689
The dwarf considers distances across z-levels in strange ways sometimes. If the hematite is 29 z-levels below him when he chooses to take the job and the ore stockpile is 32 tiles away on the same level, he's going for the one below him regardless of how far he has to walk to get to it.

>>171602168
I never played df on linux, but did you read the readme? What does it say?

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>>171602707

>>171602168
Try redownloading? Had that happen once and just redownloading fixed it.
Also make sure you're using the correct version for your system (32 bit vs 64 bit).